Episode 400 | Humiliation Ritual - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good afternoon, mall. How you feeling, I'm great. How you doing, man,
I'm good, I'm good. I got a good surprise. Welcome today,
saw Marra. Yeah, I haven't seen us so long.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh my gosh. She's so big. She's like having full conversations. Yep.
I'm praying for you man.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Attitude opinions.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yo, it's so funny seeing you go like into like daddy,
like who.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Made you a like who trusted you with a kid? Bro,
I don't trust myself. I lost her in the ballpit
in the American Dream yesterday. She was gonna drown.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
She's got so big man. It was good.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ye yeah, no, it was good to have her in
the office for a little bit. But yeah, I just
did a just did it did in tomorrow weekend? Yeah,
you know, playground swimming, went to American Dream. Overpriced shit,
but typical typical New Jersey dad type weekend more or less.
But it really wasn't much.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah I did. I walked.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's like it's like a park not too far from
where I live at It's like and they have like
a whole trail where you could run ride bikes. So
I just walked there listening to new music on Saturday
because since.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
It was nice out. Yeah, that's all I did.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I ain't really going to where I went uptown, went
to Harlem. It's still like, uh, do you telling me that?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Essent you? No? I didn't, but a few people saw me.
They was like, yo, tell Rory, what's up. I was like,
I will do So. It's like I told you, we
like Redd and meth bro We can't.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I can't be nowhere without you. You can't be nowhere without.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Me, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
What's more?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What's more doing? I don't have no idea. Actually, what's
sold Rory? He's chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I guess at least they call you by your dear
proper name. Yeah, what's Ory? I'm right here. Shit is insane,
But it's funny. You did bring up Amara and it
being funny that my dad. Because I was at the
playground in Jersey City on it was it Friday or Saturday,
and a pod fan came up. He was like, are
you really like a dad?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, like in real life? Yeah, because it just looked.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Weird after you watch somebody for ten years, like, oh shit,
I hasn't connected on my head. They're like a car
Like you really do this, dad, Like you be with
your kid, like your present in your child's life, like
for real, Like I think a little too present. Yeah,
I think it's just getting a little too coddle. Like
I might need to abandon her for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, give give them some character, you know what I'm saying.
Let herm just feel a little bit what it feels
like to be a bandon.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. No, every now and then, like if we're not
playing hide and seek, I'll just like disappear behind.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
The slides just to see what she do, like just
to see what what does she do? Like if you
if you see she.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Looks around, No, she looks around like with a face
of concern, and then she just starts searching. Okay, but yeah,
then I try to teach her, like all right, go
where'd we park? Go to the car, and like, of
course I'm watching her. I could run, but yeah, she's
at I mean two and a half, but she staw
at that age that she's consciously aware, like you gotta
learn shit, Yeah, mine is a sponge. Yeah you know,
I can't just keep playing fucking DMX in the car

(02:56):
for her. I got to give her some real life skills.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's so interesting to see kids get bigger.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
My nephew was like, I think.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I saw his I think was today the first first
day of school? Fit your sister's posts. This is this
he had that ship on. This is the second second
week he was mini moll for sert to school. This
is his second week back.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it's just funny, like like calling him now, like
when I FaceTime him and stuff. It's like he got
like his own little I guess, like things going on now,
like you just want to be like by hisself in
his room on this phone. And it's funny because I'm like, damn,
like yo, when I haven't spoken to you in a
couple of days, what's up man? Like where's the love?
And He's just like, you know, I'm just chilling is today.
I'm all excited to talk to him. What you did today?

(03:35):
I forgot you? Like if you did that much stuff
Like he don't even want to kick it no more.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like once kids get like real friends, not just friends
school live in the same building, like friends for real,
they're not They're not interested I'm just when they need something,
be super interested.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh no, no, no, listen, listen, day listen. It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
How's the problem.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's so funny man that you say that, because anytime
he called me with a certain energy, like he's hype
and he's what I'm saying, he jumping around in his room.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I'm like, hey, come man, car never fails. Like I'm like,
what's up? Man? Now I get right to it, Like
what's up? What you want?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Because you're not gonna trick me with this? Hey, uncle maul,
how you feeling?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Man?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
How much you want? Because I know it's some money.
You're about to ask for some money.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But that's not a kid thing though, adults don't grow
out of that either.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
No, no, no, it's just funny.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know somebody needs something? Oh absolutely, let's as this
time and half.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah that's what you need? What do you need?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Like?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
What do you want? What did you see? What you
want your mom to order that?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I got to send her the money for it, Like,
don't got to give me all of this house your day?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Like, just tell me what's up. But he's a good kid,
so so good.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, I got invited to this like. ESPN launched it
on Friday, and I was like, oh, I got you know,
my daughter tonight and too late to try to find
a babysitting. They're like, no, it's kid friendly. I hopped
on Instagram and saw the fucking clips in there screaming
diamonds look like Peep with the loudest eight away I've
ever heard. I was like, people just want to set
you up for your children to be like traumatized. Yeah, like,

(05:04):
why would you think that this event was kid friendly?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
That's crazy, man, got to know what it takes.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
But you took the head webster hall type speakers in
like a venue the size of this.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But nah, but don't do that because you had a
Marra at his concert with the big headphones on, which
she was three weeks old.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, but again she had big headphones on and she
was this big and was asleep in her stroller with
the sound machine with the stroller thing that went over.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So it's the young lady that brought her baby to
the show in DC's still she's still no. I don't
know if that's wilder. Are you taking a Marrow concert?
It was a joy show? Nah, man, it's very it's
soft arm is much louder than our live shows.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I don't know, man, what you mean. You don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
We don't have music banging at our shows.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It was just when we walk out, like music, Keith, Yeah,
that's it and that's it, and it's us talking.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
You add a three week old to Marra.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
At a show with headphones on so that it could
cancel out the noise. I mean, nobody at.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
A Rory and Maul podcast needs headphones to cancel out
the noise.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Maybe cancel us more than a young genius. But in
that very same venue the next year, a fight broke out.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Can you imagine holding a baby when that fight broke out.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but that wasn't really a fight. That was just
a little like get him out of here.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, But chairs were moved, hatrons were moved. That was
if you had a child that was but there were breastfeeding,
Your titty would be out and you'd be holding your
baby like yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, But that's that's just you know, when you bring
black people together, chairs got to be able to move.
You can't have too many bolted chairs when black people
an We need the chairs to either defend ourselves.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Huge white audience.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
We have a huge, a huge white fan Thank you
to all our white fan base, Thank you, Rory, because
I'm sure they're here for you.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
No, no, no, no, white white hip hop fans would only
be here for you.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
But and we don't know that. Like we were talking about,
we weren't sure if John B was white or not.
A lot of our white fans are the ones where if.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
No, no, where, We wouldn't know if John By was white.
He didn't know if John B was white, but I
knew he was a white.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Certain white people, if you get the right haircut, you
can look a little bit Puerto Rican. And I think
especially our New York white fans if they have on
a fitted hat with a sticker still on the top
and like that type of shape up.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Albanian for sure. Albanian.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
But Albanians are white, except for the ones in the Bronx. Yeah,
they're their own race of violence. But yeah, I think
a lot of our white fans, I could could pass
his Puerto Rican and the.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, you could be Puerto Rican. It all depends on
the hair. The style of the hair. You could be
the Puerto Rican. You could be Mexican. You could be
Albanian as well.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I mean only listening to Jadakiss on the way
to the show. Yeah, yeah, these are you can't tell sometimes.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, absolutely well, Roy, happy four hundredth episode. This is
officially our four hundredth but not episode.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Thank you, Josh, thank you, thank you. Demarius is.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So much, so much the matter four episode that she
decided not to be here today so she can be
on a beautiful island in carousel, Sandy Butt, just on
Sandy Cheeks. But she's having a good time, so you know,
shout out to baby d. But yes, it is our
four episode, Rory. They thought that we would never see it.
They thought that we would never be here. I don't
know who they are, but I'm sure some of them

(08:19):
are out there. They exist, Yeah, some of them are
out there. They hit me up every now and get
in remind me that I ain't shit, and you know that.
You know, has Kaled ever explained who they is? No,
Kyla has a lot of explaining to do. That would
be like the bottom of the list.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
You know. I thought on Thursday after we left the
podcast that I was on DJ Kellen's album.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Why did you think you want d J Kellen's album.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
So Brandy, our lawyer, texted me, was like, hey, did
you see that email from yesterday? And I was like,
oh yeah, I'll get back to you. So I open
it and I'm thinking, this is for Jay did something
for Khaled's album, okay. So I hit Jay and I
was like, yo, you never sent me what you did
for Kaled. He was like, I didn't do anything kal
So I hit Brandy. She was like, no, this is
for you. I said, I never worked with DJ Kalen.

(09:06):
Then I'm thinking, oh, maybe like emberone, like Abs so
like Isaiahshaud would put our pod on there. Because the
offer was for one dollar in perpetuity a dollar okay,
which is that's no knock to Calid because sometimes when
people do swaps or like work together, you just got
to put a cent or a dollar a thing. So

(09:26):
I'm like, well, I never worked with Kalid. Maybe a
beat pack or something I did for another artist got
to Khalid and now they're trying to do paperwork. So
I hit Lenny, who manages Kalt, and I'm like, hey,
got this email. Confused. He said, oh, Kaled said he
spoke to you last week and cleared everything up. I said,
I've never spoken more than three words to DJ Kalen
in my entire life, and they've been in passing, like yo,

(09:48):
what salute? Yeah, let's work the three words.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Will we the best?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, it's always been in a concert that's too loud,
and he like, we've never had like a real conversation.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So Lenny's like, Okay, I literally just got the phone
with him. Then he's like, I'm gonna call him back.
So then Lenny hits me back like five minutes later,
He's like, CALLI says, he just got off the phone
with you and cleared everything up. I said, Lenny, I
swear to god, I don't know what the fuck. And
then I never heard back. So I may or may

(10:22):
not be on the DJ.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm think it's saying to say that that's not
you and the album, but you know, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Maybe some of my Rory mackelroy.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But see that that's happened, which maybe I've said on Patreon,
not on a regular There's another Rory from the West
Coast that I think used to work with YG, and
we had YG on Paluza once or twice, so I
got real cool with his team, So I would get
all these like random YG records or random calls at
like four a m. Because I guess there's another Rory
from the West Coast that is pretty popular behind the scenes.

(10:53):
So then I guess he maybe left YG's company started
working with TDE, so I would be getting all these
like sir records, getting all these TD exclusives and like, yo, Roy,
we shouled to clear the sample. I'm like, I mean,
I don't own the rights to it. Maybe you should
talk to the person, like, oh, rong Roy, I'm telling
you for years I have a vault full of West
Coast music unreleased because they thought they were sending it

(11:14):
to a different Rory.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
That is crazy. Well hopefully you are if you are
on the album, congrats.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well I want to negotiate to at least two dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, yeah, you gotta get just for your time. I mean,
the time that you spent on the art is definitely worth.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
But I assumed out the gate it was gonna be
like oh Roy, TD okay A and r A top
dog cool.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I guess he also worked with YG as well at
one point, because they would hit me up NonStop, but
shout out to the other Roy salute. I mean we
have the same hard drive at this point.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, that's funny that that got to you though, Like
that email, No.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It'd be text. It's just everyone from TD with me, okay, okay,
got you? Yeah, like sir would just be sending me records.
I'm like, yo, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
But no, did you say you got email or something?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, That's where it's confusing. And I still don't know.
I have to follow up with Leney. They kallets team
put a contract together and sent it to Brandy our
lawyer got you. So I don't even know how that,
like how someone's.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like, oh even got to the Brandy is how did.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Someone even get to break That's where I was confused
and thought, oh, we must be like on the intro,
probably saying like something you know, something bad, so bad.
Even though we fuck with Khalid and support Kalid through
and through, we've all made comments about kaleg shit. So
maybe I'm thinking like when the uh I have two
Drake songs on whatever and like that, I thought maybe

(12:36):
he was doing like a collage of snippets in the
beginning and he just wanted to get paperwork. Yeah, and
that wasn't the case.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Okay, all right, well.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Whatever it is, man, congrats the caalt or whatever he
got coming, and congrats to you if you have your
dollar and perpetuity coming. Pretty sure that's gonna help you
out in this.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
After taxes tough after taxes on the dollar, I'm trying
to think, like what expensive.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
What are you going to do? Like, you got so
many options, so many ways you can go with that.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Well, I was talking with Brandy. She takes five percent.
We're really busting this dollar down. Benner takes twenty.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
There.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
See, you gotta do what you got to do with
that dollar.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's a bar in I want to say, in North
Hollywood or Van Eyes or something where if you bring
in a royalty check more for the acting side, but
a royalty check that's under a dollar, like in the
sense they give you a free beer and then they
post the royalty checks like all over the bar. Like
people that have worked on law and order get like
a penny every six months, and you can bring that
in and they can post it on their wall. You

(13:32):
get a free beer, which I think is like a genius.
Like a North Hollywood Van Eyes struggling actor area that's
like genius. You're definitely taking my six cents for seven
dollars beer, Like that's a fair exchange to do that.
But yes, march on sale. I'm wearing the mall one today.
New Roy Mull's down. It looks very looks very wealthy. Yeah, yeah,

(13:54):
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dot com. Forward slash numerate mal and Yeah, man, that
was kind of the quick twenty five minute recap of
what's been going on.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And going on in your life.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean, I'm more concerned about little nas X,
but that's you know, it's another conversation I did.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
I thought that was fake. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Last week when that news broke and he was walking
down is the Studio City, I think.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
He's probably going on his way to that bar.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, I thought that that was fake. But come come
to find out that he was actually arrested. He's being
charged with I think three felonies or something like that,
assaulting a police officer.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
You guys put me on game of this. I thought
it was still some tro I didn't know he was
really like but ass naked and being arrested.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, no, he definitely was arrested. Now I we'll say this,
Hopefully Little X is okay, clearly right, you know, whatever
he has going on, hopefully he makes you do it. Now,
if out of this he puts out a record in
that record get you know, goes to the top of
the charts, then we're gonna have to have another conversation
because what is this, what is this moment really about?

(15:06):
If he puts out a song after this and it's
on top of the charts, it's like, all right, do
we start believing in all these theories? But you know,
these humiliation rituals in industry, like what I.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Meant to have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hopefully his health is fine.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Oh you know, I'm YouTube rabbit hole Illuminati all day.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
But if he put a song out next month, do
you know what.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
You'd have to do the Little nas X for a
humiliation ritual? He dropped from heaven with his ash cheeks
open and landed on the devil's dick in one of
his videos. You know what you gotta dude for us
humiliation ritual? It's not walking down venture. But at about
that video, you gotta do some You actually have to
like dress him up and make him a Christian to baptizing.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You gotta get him cleaned up, like the really humiliated.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like send him to a Trump rally and like support
the truth. Then I feel like that would get him there.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
He's probably listen, anyone that goes from that level of
stardom to the drop that's there at least potential for
drug use depression. I get it. He became famous out
of fucking nowhere as.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
A young kid.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He was what was he even twenty by the time
that record came out. I don't even know if he's
above eighteen.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Old Town wrote, Yeah, nah, I think he was a
little older than eighteend to either way.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
He was a young kid and it fucking happened out
of nowhere and became the biggest record ever. He had
a good record with the Jack Carlow shit, but then
everything just started to fall. Yeah he was twenty years old.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah he was twenty. Okay, he was young. He was young.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
So I mean, I I do empathize with which I
know fans don't give a fuck it's like you're rich
and famous and you get to do this as a gig.
Stop complaining. But I do have empathy for people that
go into that level of fame and then just completely
fucking drop. Depression and vices. Will problem start to fill
in those gaps.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, but people don't look at it like that.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
You know that people, you know, you look at people
that have, you know, our fame and money as all
of their problems should be solved and life.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Should be beautiful.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
But you know, people don't don't understand that that those heights,
and you know, with that type of success comes you
know a lot of a lot of things that you
weren't prepared for, and especially when you're young, you don't
know how to deal with it. So you know, we're
cracking jokes, little nas. You know, we don't got no
ill feelings towards you. We do hope that he's okay.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
And I mean, I guess I apologize for being controlled,
but again I sort of don't because he is the
boy that's cried troll. I never know it's serious with
him with anything, So this felt like an on brand thing. Again,
I didn't hear the second part of him actually attacking cops. Now,
now you got to go back to the marketing team
and be like, are you guys he lived in this
world a little too.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, he stole that one. He really linked into that.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
This wasn't on our vision board. Yeah, so, I mean,
I feel for him, but I don't know this. This
could also be you know, he'll plee out and go
to rehab instead of jail because hey, guys have a
drug problem. That's why I did this and jail time, and.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Then he'll sample Amy wine houses they try to make
me go to rehab. Yeah, it'll be a number one
song and then we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's the rinsing repeat of we've seen celebrities and we've
seen addiction.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
This thing we've seen. We've seen this thing already. We've
seen it. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
We've seen someons you're really a drug addict, and sometimes
you're just Vincent Chase that went on a litw coke
binge with a porn star and just didn't want to
go to jail.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And sometimes you just haven't found your single yet, so you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Know, sometimes you've taken all your records to ry from TD.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, he said this ain't the one. This ain't we
can't go with this one. We need something else. Let's
do something else.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
But yeah, shit, how would you how would you want
your public meltdown to go?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
How would I want my damn? I don't want a
public meltdown.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I just living the hypothetical that there was a public
melt down. I hope to god I would be high
doing a public meltown. Sober would be like see that
first and secondhand embarrassment. I want to live in the.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Nah, but that's the thing. I would want to be sober.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
A sober moultown would be so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, Like I want to be sober for like, because
what is the what is what would I be?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
What would they be like killing me?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I'm not saying you would do this. I'll put myself
in little knas x's shoes or lack their of shoes.
If I was walking down venture a butt ass saying
all the ship he was saying, then attack police officers
and then you later found out I was sober? What
would you say on this podcast?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
You walk down the street butt naked, everybody thought you
were drugged up out your mind, and then.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
You later find out like na, Noah, they did a drug. Dad,
he was clean, he'd be like, lock that fucking person. No,
I mean I would have it's a sick fuck. Yeah,
but you gotta have the excuse of some type of opioate.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Because that's just streaking. That's just like, you know, we're
going streaking. You don't have to.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
You don't have to, you know what I mean. It's like, Okay,
you lost the you lost.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Can you streak at a slow pace? You gotta have
a light jog or something to you. You had a group.
You streaking by yourself is weird because.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean we've we had a friend of mine growing up.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
We had him ride around the Bronx like butt naked
on the bike when he lost the bet.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I was about I was just about to say, did
he lose a bit?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
But because he lost the bet, But it was the
craziest ship at the time, because it's like, yo, he's
really on this bike. One of the busiest intersections in
the Bronx on the Grand Concourse and Fordham Road, butt
naked riding a bike.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, but that's a bet. Like I can see a
white person doing the streaking thing. But like y'all version
of that is like in the Basement and Belly when
they made Homie strip.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Na, that was totally that.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
That was a total version of streaking.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
No, that was totally. That was totally different. That's not streaking.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's black people's version of it. I'm streaking for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Nah, that's not streaking.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Now Little knas X hopefully again he knows he's fine
and he gets yourself cleaned up whatever drugs he was on.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But yeah, man, I bet I see no Number one
song next month.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I know that I would hope mine Obviously no one
would be harmed, but I would definitely want to be
on an opioid where I was hallucinating. I would want
to have like maybe a super soaker gun, like just
so it would be like fun, silly mental breakdowns. But
I would want to say not profound things, but open
ended things that Illuminati YouTube would pick up and take

(21:25):
as law. Because there's like certain people. Who's the guy
rest in peace to the gentleman. He was cool with
the guy from Friends that also passed away. He killed himself,
but he was going in on Hollywood right before he died,
and he saw Matthew Perry. He was friends with Matthew Perry. Yeah, sorry,
for forgetting his name and rest in peace. He had

(21:45):
put out a bunch of videos before he took his
own life, quote unquote, exposing Hollywood, and granted he could
have been right, but there's also a high chance he
could have just had some mental health issues and some
drug issues and was just saying shit.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well that's what they're hoping that people think.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
And I'm saying I want during my mental breakdown, I
want to say a bunch of open ended things that
make me look like some profit or some genius. And
I'm literally just babbling. Yeah, that's that's how I want
my mental breakdown to go. Like now he's really exposed
in the music industry and it's like, meanwhile, he just
had the same name as an A and r at TD,
Like he really has no pull. He's not even on
Kali's album.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Like he went crazy because he thought he was on
Kalid's album and come to find out he's not on
Kali's album, so he just started tweaking.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That would be a funny bit if if once the
Kalid album comes out, I stand outside Rock Nation office
picketing with the contract. At least pay me my dog.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, give me my yeah, give me my dollar, give
me my klae shitning't that dollar man?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Cash at that?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I feel like Khalid now that that's verse swaps. If
I'm doing it for a dollar, that's verse swaps. So
you gotta come on the park.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Callum ain't doing no pod what.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think this will be the first run because things
are a bit different for CALLI he would have to
go on a proper press run. Different because I think
him as the promotional machine isn't what it was before,
because he's pulled back a bit, like during the Vine
days and was it Vine that he got super popular on.
It was before TikTok, snapchat, Snapchat, like he could go

(23:16):
on Allen he could do, which he probably still can,
but he was like he was himself the entity he
didn't need to like. The press run was happy to
have him, not the other way around. He's pulled back
from a lot of that stuff. So I think he
needs to go back to the press. I mean, which
is fine. I mean, I think Khaled is in a very.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Obviously you know, we we fuck with calib but I
think this may be like to what you're saying. I
think he's in a very different space now though, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Mean I felt since Father of Asad, which I thought
was a really really good album, that it's kind of
been what'shy washy, Like there's joints, but they're not as
good as the previous Kalid projects. And he's been fine.
Like maybe he doesn't hit number one because of a
Tyler album, but he still has like joints. I've seen

(24:05):
Kaled fail with two albums by Kalid standards, not by
I could dream to do the numbers that Khaled does.
But and he's fine, Like he still comes back. People
are still going to listen to a Kalid ab. He's
still going to get all the A list artists, is it?
I think so?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think, you know, I think that he does have.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well yeah, I mean he kind of went out I
want to live there. But if you look even then,
has Drake given anyone more music besides maybe Ross and
a lot of those records are Kalid records?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Mean when I say he's in a different like he
doesn't have the two Drake records that he probably was
banking on.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, he got one of the most iconic jay
Z verses of the last fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't think jay Z will give him on another verse.
I think I think that was Jays. I think Gods
did was Jay's Like, you got to think about a
j performed that record at the Grammys outside of like
the whole verse, like Crypto Arena, like you know what
I mean, Like he really gave Khaled like a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I didn't like that they put Friday at the kids
table with John Legend.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, but I mean to the point of not having
Drake records that you obviously would banking on.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I don't think he'll have another jay Z Verse.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Here's the thing though, I didn't think on God did
he would get a jay z Verse and he got
a four minute jay z Verse. If I'll admit when
I'm wrong, and I probably said it on the podcast,
ain't no way he get another jay Z Like. I
just didn't feel like the timing was there or Kaled
was even focusing on music like that at that point.
And then he got one of the greatest Hove guest
features ever, which.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Is why I think he won't get another one. I
think that was Jay's Like.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
But Jay will do things. Jay will give versus to
his investments, and that's why you get to Beyonce and
jay Z records on two different Kalid projects, one with
the Future like he's invested in Klit, he manages Kaled, so.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, but I still don't again, what an artist like Jay,
who's obviously a legacy artist at this point, Like, I
just don't know what he does after a record or
verse like God did like now what We're Gonna give
It was another I Got the Keys Like you don't
really but to me, it just feels like this is
my I'm bowing out, like I'm done, You know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
What else? What else? What other type of song could
Kalid and or Jay make for Kali?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I just don't understand where you go from there.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I don't think he should pivot to the younger, younger audience.
I think throwing them in the mix a little bits whatever.
But Kali's real connections of where he can have moments
is when he gets legacy acts ie getting a jay
Z Verse to be the intro on his album Last Time.
That was the moment I mean, Rihanna, technically, I guess

(26:40):
was legacy when Wild Thoughts came out. But having moments
like that, having Alisha Keys on your project, having like
all these crazy A list names that don't usually do
shit will be like, all right, I'll give my verse
for the year or my record for the year to Kalid.
I don't know if the younger generation gives a fuck
about that. But I also don't know if legacy acts
are running to do that anymore either. Like Rihanna, it

(27:02):
took us a Smurf's movie that she was fucking heavily
involved in to get a record out of that. I
don't know if she's doing a album. I mean, do
you think she would get on it.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't think Rihanna is making music because Rihanna realizes
or feels like it's just not worth her time. The
music industry is it's a dying thing, Like what is
the music industry? You see all these artists from years ago, Rory,
we've seen everybody selling their catalog Yeah, and we didn't
know why why people selling their entire catalogs for because
it's like if I can give this much money for
this music. Now with the way with the way streaming

(27:34):
is affecting you know things, and how it paid AI.
I think artists just realized, like this thing that we
get we came in on with this with this thing
called you know, the music industry is changing. I don't
think that somebody like Rihanna. Obviously she doesn't need the money.
So it's like it comes it comes to the thing

(27:56):
that is she inspired?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yes, that's why I think it's it's comes down.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
So why is she not inspired?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Because of all the bullshit that surrounds it, the way
people move on from music so fast now, it's like
you could put out a you could put out a
classic album right now and people will be done with
it in a month.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
So it's like when the artists that.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You know, like a legacy artist, Rihanna, jay Z, whoever
else the legacy artists are, you can see why they
would not be inspired to put out new things if
they're making so much money in other areas. Rihanna is,
you know, on top of the beauty world right now,
billion dollar industry. Like she doesn't music to her, it
has to either inspire just to be inspired or just

(28:40):
at a point where she's just like totally in love
with the sound that she found in the studio and
you know, like the things that have come together as
far as the songs, but to.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Just be like Rihanna, give us album.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
She's not doing that, Like an artist like that is
not doing it because they feel like yo' it's not
what y'all think it is. As consumers us on the album, SI, well,
we know a little bit more about the industry, but
the average consumer doesn't realize the business. The music business
is not what it once was.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
But that was the beauty of the Kalid album or
the Kalid single. I e a hove like, I have
no interest in putting out an album this year, but
there's plenty of things I do want to say that
I don't address unless I'm putting music out. But I'm
saying in Rihanna's only because to be inspired by one record,
or you could have one record on your hard drive

(29:30):
that you love and it's like, I have to wait
to put this out because it needs to be surrounded
by something. But that was the genius of the Kalid project.
Like even the jay Z Beyonce Shining record, which I
think is incredible, it's one of my favorite jay Z
and Beyonce collapsed. I don't think they would have ever
put that out had it not been around something specific.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
It has to make sense.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
We got Beyonce rapping with future and hove on top off,
Like that's not coming out unless Beyonce is doing something
or jay Z is doing something right, Khalid gives those opportunity.
I just don't know if anyone's like running to care
for that in the current climate, which is not a
not to calid it's a not to the climate. But
I mean, Rihanna putting out that smurf thing, I don't

(30:10):
think she's inspired her. I think she would have put
music out because again, she doesn't need the money, she
doesn't have to march to anyone's drums or.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
The fuck you want to whatever, do whatever she wants.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
She wants to put out Celtic reggae, she could do
it because it's Rihanna. Yeah, I feel like she would
do that with a Kalid album if that was a thing,
that if those moments mattered anymore. I just don't know
if moments are a thing in the music industry anymore.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
What all the moments?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Uh? Everything outside of the music is the moment?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Is it just us seeing like artists names featured together
on the song that we never thought like, okay, we
never thought we would see these two work together, Like
that's a moment.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Okay, we got to hear what that's about what they did.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
But again, even with that, once you hit it w record,
it's like we just move on the consumers, the average,
we just move on from things so fast now things
don't sit with us.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Like That's why back to what I was.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Saying, I don't really care if Jay puts out another
album because I know what's gonna happen. The people that
grew up with J and that love Jay and hold
them to high regard, we're gonna love it. But there's
a whole new generation now and people like that have
platforms and spaces and they don't care about Jay like that,
Like they don't hold them to that regard like we do.
Like Cardy just did the sample the record. Imagine they

(31:30):
players that song started charting. Again, that's the first time
some people ever even heard that Jay record.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, but again with someone like a Rihanna or J
why would their mind move to the younger generation? Why
why would they even care about that?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, not that they don't care, but to an extent,
you have to care about the younger generation because it's
a large part of the consumers. It's a large part
of the people that are you know, influencing the sound
and the new trends and things that are going on.
Even the slang, the way people talk, the way people dress.
It's always going to lean a little younger. That's just

(32:06):
how it's always been. So you have to kind of
be in tune with what the new generation is kind
of doing and what they're into now. Not that you
have to care. I don't like Jay and Rihanna. These
people are you know, life is set forever for these people.
But I'm just saying, if you're going to put your
art into this space, into the consumer space, you have
to look at who's consuming it, and a large part

(32:28):
of the consumer base is the younger audience.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, then let's stay specifically on rap because that pop
is a bit different. Yes, it's different with Rihanna than
it would be with a Hoover and Nas. I mean,
for example, even like when Michael Butterflies hit, but did
that album hit like? It is definitely different with the
pop world because a young generation, no matter what your
pop star. Yeah, the same way. I always tell you
that Chris Brown is bigger than Wuebo. I don't understand

(32:51):
why you don't think that. But the younger generation still
cares about Chris Brown as a pop star.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
With that said, why would NAS put out six projects
with hit Boy?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Why who cares what the younger generation? I'm feeding my
audience and showing hip hop being the youngest genre, how
it's aging. They're leading the charge of that. Four forty
four was a prime example of how hip hop can age.
No dispect to Carreras or Big Daddy Kane or whatever,
but they never kept going with the times. Hove and
Nas have shown how hip hop can age. Why why

(33:23):
would they have to beat to the drum of hip
hop just being a young young man's game. At one point,
it was because it was just a young genre. Now
it's not hope about seven albums. I guarantee his core
would give a fuck and he would sell out arenas constantly.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
He'd be grateful, dead nosteen like the corps will always care,
The core will always kid.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm not saying core is their core, right. It's not
saying Jay doesn't doesn't.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Not an MF doom core, right, It's a it's an
arena corps.

Speaker 7 (33:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I'm not saying that an artist like Jay Z or
personal businessman like jay Z. He doesn't really, he's not
trying to, you know, move to the beat of somebody
else to move. When we say moving, he isn't. That's
doesn't apply there. I'm just saying that when you're selling anything,
I don't care what it is. As a business person,

(34:12):
you have to look at the consumer base and you
have to try to you know, again, your core is
your core, but you do want to pull in some
of the newer audience and things like that, just because
that's just the business that you're in here in the
entertainment business now with the music business being in the
status in back to what we're saying about Kali, it,

(34:33):
do you go just legacy album with legacy acts. I
don't know if you don't. I don't know if Khaled
is willing to do that.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And I think he has a clip song. I'm just
I'm just like guessing. Shit. Yeah, Like I think there's
probably clips record on there. I think you'll probably get
a young thug record. I think he'll get I'm sure beaves.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
But now, but now, but it's a bunch of bet
Like that's.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
What I said. But now we just talking about things
that we've already gotten.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
So now trying to think of moments that would make sense.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
So now that goes back to what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I don't think jay Z gives Khalid a verse at
least not for at least not for this project. Because again,
I just gave you the gods did we did that.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That was a whole thing. But we was at the
table the final last Supper type of Viole and we
gave you that.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Where do we go now, like do we give another
a diet version of that? Like it just starts to
feel like, Okay, we've had this. You're giving us the
same thing. You're just kind of like, you know, reheating
it and adding.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But that's that's been Kalid, even when I thought his
albums were great.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
But how long is that?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
How long are you saying that Father's I was the
last one that I was like, I fuck with this project?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, but that's so again, So now we're gonna start
in like, uh it was even that.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
One wasn't up to like super Pars the rest of it,
but it was still a solid, solid project. Yeah, this
record I go back to on that often. But I
think it goes back to your original point, which I
completely agree with rihann and know it's if you're inspired
like God did. Kaled was at the office playing that record,
was ross Wayne and Friday like he wasn't playing that

(36:03):
for Hove to get on.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Mm hm, well let me stop you right there. M hm.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Whenever an artist plays a record like that around there,
don't you know you don't see, don't don't do this
thing that you're doing. You know how this industry shit goes.
If jay Z is sitting on that couch, listen, I
have a record, and I'm playing this record, trust and
believe it's something.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
In my DNA that said.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I hope he loves this ship and he and he
wants to go to the studio right now.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Hove and Lenny are his managers. Obviously he goes to
rock to play them the music. I'm sure if it
would have been the Boujoo bons On record, if Hove
would have been like yo, I'm going, I'm sure Kluin
wouldn't hold anything. He doesn't anything thing. It's if he's inspired.
I don't think he was going in there like I
just blocked the verse off on God did, because the

(36:52):
whole ship after that was like damn, do we keep
Wayne and because Wayne and Ross had great verses, but
it's like, this is the moment? Is this just the intro?
Is it just this five minute old verse? And then
we move on because I already told Wayne and Ross
stay on this. I think it comes down to inspiration.
If what I'm saying, if Hove here's something he's inspired by,
he'll do it. I don't think he's sitting there like

(37:14):
this is the Kalid album. I don't give him anything.
If he doesn't hear anything, then he's not getting a verse. Now, Okay,
you're right, because there's a lot of butt also gets
inspired when y'all have talked wild shit about m there's
a lot of Super Bowl shit. I'm sure he wants
to address, yeah shit, even when they had written testimony
whole that shit to get off his chest with an
NFL stuff like now I have something to say and

(37:35):
if you put it something out all right.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, but you know how the industry is, and we
know Cal.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
He has a thousand Caesar Palace cas in his head
right now.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Kallat is the fucking one of the greatest salesman. And
sure here if you think that Kali didn't.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Walk that record in that room, and he didn't look
at Jay in his eyes and start moving his shoulders
trying to feed j Yo, you don't feel that, Like
you don't know Calen is a salesman.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
He's gonna he gonna sell your shit. You didn't even
know you wanted to buy. So it's like if he
played that verse for Jay, of course.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
He was think. I just think there's certain artists at
a point in their career that the sales pitch doesn't work.
It's what I hear on this record, Like, no.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's not that recently that it's not that the sales
pitch doesn't work. It's that it doesn't work on you anymore.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's work on somebody.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I don't know that same thing an artist at that point.
Even I rewatched I'm sorry everyone for making this a
whole cast. I rewatched the Black album of Fade a
black movie. And even when Farrell, after the phone call,
was trying to pitch, because we know Fharrell to be
a salesman, Hove walked in through his keys on and

(38:47):
Farrell said, all right, it's like the end of Carlegles
with and Hope that's the speech.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, that's it, get right to it. Yeah, some ship
is just like all right, yeah you sometimes you said,
he started mumbling the moment those fucking fore chords came
like all right, this is at All you have to
do is play this. You don't have to sell this
like this is that speech.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's it. So again, I don't know you know what
Calin does with this project.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Just give Rory his dollar and life will be life
will be better better for everyone.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Will you protest outside rock Nation with me?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh? Yeah, you gotta give me half of that dollar
though we.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Gotta bustle my contract. Actually, you gotta give me half
of that dollar because I either asked brain and I said
the mall get one too, because again I thought it
was a podcast.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
That's so that's on the arm. Keep that. Don't worry
about that dollar. That's all you.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah see that's that's like you gotta eat.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
You gotta eat.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
You got all my people to eat.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I want anybody. Everybody eats for me.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's all love, all the time, all the time, and not.
It's never been that. It hasn't been a day Rory
that I have not thought about if I asked you
this question before, have you ever day you text me
and you asked me this every.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Day, Okay, but maybe it's not resonating with you.

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Speaker 1 (40:43):
I could see a Cardi moment on there. OKAYL say
we get pivot from calend because I do want to
get into Cardi and Imaginary Player and matter much. But
I think they'd a Cardi shan. I don't want to
talk about any female rappers no more. Why I think
that's sexist. No, no want you know, Demeris is an area.
You know what that is said? I mean I want
all of the I want all of them to keep talking.
They ship and looking good and doing they thing, but

(41:05):
it's ain't looking good.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I just don't think it's fair for me to speak
speak on their music because they're not making they're not
making these records for me a person like me, like,
they don't care, like CARTI doesn't care if I.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Like her verse NICKI doesn't care if I like her
verse like they don't. They don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
They care.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
No, they know. They just don't want you to shit
on it. They care if you shit on it.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
But if I don't speak on it, I don't think
like then nobody's gonna be upset.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Just can I play Demeris today?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Okay? I think they do care, not specifically about us
per se, but they're in a male dominated field where
male opinions are the ones that give you a stamp,
which I would argue with Demeris that women are the
people that move the fucking needle. And when women like
some men gonna like it, we're gonna be working if
they like it, we love it. But I do see
that side from a woman's point of view there that like, yeah,

(41:53):
I need male media to fuck with this too, because
y'all have stamped hip hop has been male dominated for
fifty years. Yeah, but it's not y'all are the ones
that say when something's good or not as far as perception.
But if you go to a show, like you don't
need a man yeah to like to stamp anything at all, Like,
but that's just not You got a stamp by Fendy,
Like you get a stamp based off on the on

(42:14):
the business side, on the business buzzing with her own.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Ship on the business side. I understand that, but media.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Business do go hand in hands, so they do care
in that regord.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
H it doesn't like and it's it's it's honestly unfair
because again, if it's a Cardi or Nikki or Meg
or you know, Lot or whoever. You know, the ladies
that are putting our music, they're not they're not recording
these verses thinking, oh, I hope he likes it or
he likes it. It's more so like they want the

(42:45):
women to love it.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
They want the women to say otherwise huh, my phone
would say otherwise.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
But that's because that's because you're saying if you hear
the song, you're saying something to the to the to
the side of you don't like it or you're not
feeling it.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
That's when it.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Becomes a conversation to your phone, like, YO, why'd you
say that? But I just don't feel you know, just
being honest, Like it's just like, because that's that's not
for me. It's almost like, why am I even speaking
on that when I know that wasn't created with me
in mind, Like, that's not I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Think that's even really a gender thing per se. Because
even when we came in here to talk about the
Cardi shit, I started by saying, I shouldn't be the
one to review this, but this is this.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Is agreed, God awful, but I agree, but I should
I shouldn't be the one because again, it's not made
for me. It's not I'm not supposed to like it
to an extent, you know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo,
this wasn't.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Laid, but it's made for the masses, so the masses
can comment. Yeah, but if it's not for me with
masses though, you don't think somebody the masses.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, but somebody like me who grew up on a
different type of hip hop, different type of rap.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well, but it's damning the same neighbors there fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Well yeah, but the gap.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Do you've dated a Cardi but they dated her?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
The yes, the clips is crazy. It's all I'm saying.
Just clean that up.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
No, not her, but yes, we're from the same neighborhood,
same culture, So I understand that. But again, it's a
different time now when you're told about rap hip hop
and you know, do you think it's the type of music, like,
it's just a different it's a content.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I think I think you would judge in this education
if it came out. I think you would judge a
little Simms album. I think there's plenty of women artists
that would be I think you're just talking about the content.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's the content. It's not for me. That content is
not for me.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Now, I love being dembarrassed. Would you not say that
imaginary player Cardi's not really doing pussy rap on.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
That she She told me this, like even if it's not.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like ho, everyone relaxed, but she she just flexing the
way any other rapper would it's not a pussy rap record.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Again, it's just a tonal no, no, no, it's just
it's just the content me. It's like my demograph, that's
not it's not for it's not for my demograph. It's
not for my age group, it's not for like, it's
just not you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's like I want to see her all the success
that she's shooting for. I want to see a get
because again I'm supporting Cardi. But it's almost unfair for
me to sit here and give my opinions on a
Cardi record because again, I don't think she made that
record caring if I like it or not, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
So it's like for me to speak on it.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's like with proof, that's just where I disagree.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying that's how I feel.
It's like, damn, man, I don't really want to tell
it because I'll give her your number and she can
curse you out in stead.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Because even look, even as much as as much as
I love Cardio and support and all of that, I
don't play Cardi's music. Way would I play Cardi's music.
It's not.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
But that's what I'm saying. So, so then why would
she puts out a song? Why am I even speaking
on it?

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Now?

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm saluting her.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I want, I want to I want anybody that fuck
to love it. But for me to sit on sit
on my platform and speak on it, sometimes I'll be like, damn,
I don't want and you know this, be honestly, I
feel I don't want to speak because but again, not
because I don't like Cardi and I don't support I
don't think she's dope. It's because I feel like it's
unfair because she really is not making music in these songs.

(46:01):
For somebody like me, she's not. So it's like, why
the fuck am I even speaking on it? But you
make up with her, I want to speak on it,
and you know, give her her a praise, like yo,
do your thing, like you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Saying, I'm rooting for you. But it's almost unfair to
even talk about the music because again, I'm not going
to be playing Cardi's music anywhere.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
You do this weird thing in podcasting where you like
try to make logical sense. No, this is a this
is a world that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
But let me explain something to you.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
I know, I know in a universe, I understand, I
understand listen, but I understand that.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
But that's just who I am. I'm being me. It's
not a character.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I have to bring logic into everything I have to.
I know I'm at a handicap with this. Trust me.
We've been doing this for years. I know where I
stand on things, my thought process, my moral compass. I
am at a handicap because everybody is not going to
be aligned with the things that I feel and things.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
That I say. I get that, but I can't stop
being who I am.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I mean, what's gotten tiring with on my side, like
mentally exhausting, which has become a handicap. I always want
music to be good. I'm not one of those weird
people that's like praying for pays to be bad. But
also sure even artists that I do really like and
sometimes their music isn't the best. I don't want to
come in here and shit on it. Like I know

(47:20):
art is to be critiqued, but I just don't really
have that in me anymore. To like if I think
someone is like genuinely trapped I'd rather like not talk
about it because then also like, what's the game we're playing?
What is the dopamine hit for the listener? Right? Just
streaming that I don't like an artist that we've all
liked forever now their music sucks, right, I just don't like.

(47:42):
That's why I also on the side pray like like
Jid's album, I was like, please be good, please be good,
Please be good, because I would never want to come
in here. And it's not because I'm phony or not
realizing that this is the job too to say when
something is bad or good. It's just exhausting to just
tearrapy people down, Like yeah, when it comes to like

(48:03):
playboard carding, that's shining for me, I don't care that
shit could be a that could be illmatic to you,
it's trash to me. I don't like. I don't care
nortous CARDI orders of fans, but artists person artists of course,
not artists that I do care about, Like thank God
the Cliffs album was great, then God Ji D's album
was great. Thank God ghost Face albums though, yes, which
was the only one that I did listen to this week,
But yes, that was one of those two that was

(48:24):
like mass appeal, come on please, yes, smoked it. Yeah,
So yeah, I don't know, it's just which I'm I'll
probably you know, they'll be comments because I know a
lot of the pod fans like that's a lot of
them paid off on that, like not positivity. And I'm
not saying I have to just sit here and have
flowers and just be like everything's great. No, we should

(48:45):
tell the truth. But I don't always just want to
shit on someone because I don't particularly like their music,
Like I'm not going to go back to imaginary players
mm hmm. But again, it's not really like for me,
am I excited for the Cardi album? Do I pray
it's fucking good?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Say?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Because I like good music and I hope Cardy succeeds
in her life. I don't think she's a scumbag and
she was a dirt bag, like fuck it. But I
don't know, I just don't understand that that concept of
like hoping things suck, like then we can tear them
down like it's.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Over fast, like but you know that that's we see
you do you know that that's just how this thing is,
this podcasting.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It's just a reflection of crabs in the barrel.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Negative, negative things are going to travel fast.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Literally all the political news outlets want the world to exactly.
Nobody wants to be like, hey, that Bill was good.
That actually the great idea. Nobody wants to say that.
Nobody And it's like, all right, cool, I get it, man.
But again, sometimes we sit here and you know, just
told my certain artists. You know, I'm just like, damn man,
because that's not It's not for me. So I don't
really want to talk. But again I want. I think

(49:48):
that reflection has starting to get on your man's as
far as what I think, when people project negativity on
you for so long, sometimes you become a characterure of
what people project on you. I think, I know Drake
be joking around, but Rob Markman is like one of
the few journalists that we have and I know, I mean,
Drake didn't say anything crazy, but I think him he's

(50:09):
projecting because people have been shitting on him for a
year and I think now he's just getting his payback.
But he doesn't need to. Rob don't bother nobody unless
he said something about Drake that I missed. I just
feel like attacking, even though I don't think I say
negative things about Drake. I think my world would be
more of a place for Drake to attack than Rob's world.

(50:31):
And I'm not saying me specifically or Rob specifically. I
just think Rob is on a journalistic side and we're
on a commentary side. And I think Rob's very objective
and fair and everything that he does. I think a
lot of stuff that we do, even though we are objective,
has emotion involved in it as well, So it's an
easier back and forth. And I could see where artists
feel a certain way. Does Rob bother anyone? I think
Rob is an incredible journalist and one of the few
hip hop journalists we have left.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, but you're speaking, you may be speaking about things
that you probably just don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Oh That's why I asked unless there was something I missed,
Because I remember, even when Drake was roast to me
in the HIGHG comments, he kept bringing up Rob Markman.
I was like, why keep bringing up Rob? Is there
some history there that I'm unaware of?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I mean, I don't know. Probably.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I just don't think that Drake is the type of
person that will, you know, talk down to somebody or
talk negatively about somebody unless it's a you know, you
never really see. You only see the person with the
bigger platform strike back. You never see what the person
is mad at or what they're responding to.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
You only see the response. So I think that's what
this is.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I think it's some things behind the scenes that may
have happened over the last couple of years that you know,
just left a bad taste in Drake's mouth. And of course,
because he is who he is, we're only going to
see his response. And now it's like he's, you know,
disrespecting the journalists. Who doesn't bother anybody and you know.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
People admittedly, so I did, of course I follow, you know,
a lot of what Rob does, and I did follow
the battle back and forth. I thought he did a
great job covering the battle. I'm sure there was something
they I could have missed. I don't think it's coming
out of nowhere. I also think, though Drake in a
jokingly way, sometimes is disconnected with media and who he
thinks people are. And it's not a narcisstic thing. I

(52:09):
can just only go off me as an example when
he would put me and Rob in certain categories of
like just these straight hip hop nerds, like when he
would make jokes of like Roy would only like me
if I worked with Griselda, and like, I'm like, dude,
you like know, I like only listened to pop music
and R and B right, like as much as the
underground hip hop nerd I am. I think you have

(52:29):
me skewed, Like I'm not the guy that's like, yo,
did you hear a mortal technique dance with the Devil? Like?
I'm not that guy, I mean, And I think he
probably thinks Rob is the representation of the older hip
hop nerd that rejected Drake in nine when things started
to change, whereas I was the one that was like, oh,

(52:49):
finally this guy saved fucking hip hop because it was
going in a bad direction at that point. Right yeah,
I think he has a different because he's so up here,
he may not fully understand and everyone's taste level or
what we talk about outside of things that don't pertain
to him, which is fine, he doesn't need to do that.
We all live in our bubble. I thought it was
kind of like out of left field that Rob is

(53:11):
nice as fuck.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, but that's again, he probably has a different for sure,
you know what I mean different, different relationship with Rob
and some things were said or some things were done
that he knows about that.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
You know, we don't have no idea. It's a lot
of that.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Sometimes again, all the time you only see the person
with the bigger platform response out.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
You're talking to me the amount of times I've applied
to something, and the whole narrative history is erased from it,
and I look like the fucking psychopath. I'm like, no,
do you not realize? But of course I've been ignoring
someone for five years. I finally say something.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
But of course, because of the time that we're in,
anything that Drake says now is super magnified, and he's
super he's super upset, and he's salty, and he's disgruntled,
and you know, he thinks the world is against it.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It's gonna be all.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Of that added to that now, just because of the
things that we've gone through the last couple of years
and where we are now. So no matter what he does,
it's going to be looked at as, oh, this is
his response because you know, uh, maybe Mark supported the
not like US records, So now Drake's mad at anybody
that did that. And when it's like Okay, you may
think it's that, but it may be something else too,

(54:17):
maybe something deeper than that as well.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
If you got mad at everyone that like not like us,
it'd be well be exhausting.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
And again we get off the Drake thing. This is
the one thing I'm not saying you, but a lot
of the Ovio fan base it's okay if y'all can say, like,
you know, maybe Drake is a little I don't want
to say salty, but feels a way like that's okay.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I feel I've been saying that.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I was like, yo, he's someone bothered while out there,
I'm like, it's good.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You should be bothered. No, I've been saying that probably.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Like okay to feel No, he's like, let's be Drake
not thinking about Yeah, he probably is thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Bro Listen, if you know, if anybody knows, you know,
I'm very vocal. People celebrated and danced to him being
calling the worst thing you could ever be called as
a man.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
How do you feel about the Bobby alt Off. I
don't know if it's announcement that they are working together,
because again, like Hove, when I said he'll do stuff
for his investments. As Drake just doing a Bobby interview
after she closed her deal, which I thought was a
good move. She tried to frank oshin her deal set
her her podcast was over and then relaunched a whole

(55:24):
new one and her and Drake are back in the bed,
just with a better background. I don't think Drake is
just doing this unless he's invested in something with Bobby.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I mean it could be that he could he could
have some type of investment with Bobby and you know
in the podcast and you know, have her as his
you know, I like to call you know how Michael
Jordan had a Ma rashod.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
You think you think Bobby is Yeah, I mean just
somebody that he could just checks out, go to and
have a cool, fun conversation with with.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
You know, It's not no bullshit or I mean, ice
Man's name is Bobby Drake. So I don't know if
that plays into it, right.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
All you YouTubers that are forcing artists to have all
these entendres, and.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I mean they did that, They did that with the
whole Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
No, no, no, no no, And I'm just no, I know,
I'm just saying it can be culture in general, where
now everything has to mean something.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I'm just saying it could be. It could be is
what I'm saying. That's all it could be. It could
be a bunch of different reasons. Why if somebody feels like,
you know, he's doing it because I don't know, like
he's he's attracted to Bobby. Also, I don't know whatever
people are thinking think that. I'm just saying, whatever, it
is cool he's doing a podcast with Bobby Alto.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
And of course I love when artists their stories and
Easter eggs and those are writers, those are generational talents.
I like all that. But I also sometimes like, Okay,
Ill Madic was my best album? All right, I guess
we'll go with still Madic. Like not everything has to
be right. Sometimes it's just like You're right, which is
a classic. Absolutely, Like sometimes it does. Everything doesn't have

(57:00):
to be I get what Drake is doing with Pinocchio
and he's carrying the bag. What does the bag mean?
That's because we live in this world now where everything
is a rabbit hole. There's a thread on Twitter, Everything
even if it doesn't make sense, has to make connected
to something else. I just would Bobby, I mean, I
said the same thing with Aiden, and I can be
objective and understand why Drake would want to avoid hip
hop media or avoid any real conversation until the time

(57:24):
is right of when the album comes out, and he
does want to address everything. But you know, perception is
still a thing which I think Drake still cares about. Yeah,
I don't want to hear it. I mean, I liked
him and Bobby on the first interview, but.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
For what who would you like to hear him with us?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
And they're just going to flip this to be like
I'm salty anyone that if Drake went to Drink Champs tomorrow,
I'd be a static.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
If Drake wins to Hot ninety seven tomorrow, ILL be
a stack. Drake went to Charlotage tomorrow, I'd be a static.
If Drake's sat with Rob Markman, I'd be a static.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Like but Bobby also off the United Static.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
He doesn't want a Drake robmar Now.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I'm just trying to let you guys know it's not
a salty thing where I'm like mad that Drake is.
I'm not the person that's like if Drake won't sit
with me, yo, like, then fuck him the way they
tried to paint Elliot when Elliott had pointed out, like,
you're not sitting with anyone from the culture, and they
took that as you're salty that he won't sit with you,
when Elliot just said somebody of the culture. I'm just saying,

(58:25):
I want the Drake interview that answers the questions that
I have as a fan at the moment. I'm sure this,
Bobby Shu'll be funny. Their first interview was fucking hilarious.
I've watched it more than once. It's very funny. I
just don't don't really care at this point.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I mean, if you, no matter who you want Drake
to sit with, once he sits with them, people are
gonna say, oh, they didn't ask him this, if he
didn't talk about that, he didn't enjoy it. And even
if he does, even if they ask all the questions
that we all want to hear answers to, however, Drake
answers it, people gonna feel a.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Way about that. Listen, So it's gonna be think pieces
about his answers, be about his answers, and it dreams
about how come he didn't answer this? It's like, everybody,
just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Somebody perfect right now, Angie Martinez. Angie creates a very
warm environment, does not avoid questions because Angie will ask
you that shit, but she will do it in such
an amazing way. That's why she's so good. That's why
she's a legend. It'll almost feel like it's a soft question,
but she's really asking that shit. She would be a

(59:27):
perfect person.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, but then if he goes to sit with Angie,
know what they'll say, Oh, why he didn't sit with
black Boy Max, Why he didn't go sit with this person,
Why he didn't go to Charlomage why?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I think it doesn't matter now, just want him to
sit with somebody that is going to ask. I'm not
saying like straight hardball, fucking knock it out the park, YO,
tell me how you found out if you think Whitney
was abused, I'm just saying, Bobby, and it'll be like

(59:56):
a curb episode, which is fine, But I think fans
want to hear from Drake now.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I think the goalpost moves a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Oh with him, it moves every every hour.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I very much enjoyed the conversation with Sissy and Kendrick.
But I hold Kendrick to the same thing. I want
Kendrick just sit with somebody, not that he has to,
but yeah, that's Sissor. Conversation was great and I get
that was GQ.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Right, bizarre Harper Harper Was it Harper Harper or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I thought it was a really cool conversation between two
incredible minds. But I also I would love Kendricks like
I loved Nodeska sat with him. Rob Markner, Kendrick, Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Need to get about you need to get up. I'll
just see, like Kendrick sit right there. Let me talk
to Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I would love that. I think that'd be Let me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Talk to Kendrick. I got I got some questions for Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I think that would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna askally Rob ain't gonna ask because me
and Kendrick, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just
it's just different coming from my face in Rob's face.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
First of all, I have told.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
You, but me and Kendrick are probably the same complation.
This is a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
If I ask him, which I want the world to
know and appreciate you for this. I've told you off
camera if you if Drake wants to do an interview
with you, that's like, I won't feel a way. I
don't need to go. I don't need to be there.
I don't need to produce anything like go do that.
And you have said which.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I love you me by myself.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, And you said no, I would want which is cool.
I'm saying I was leaving us out of it. I
want Drake to sit with you. I would want Kendrick
to sit with you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I don't also think people would be surprised. I think
you would ask Drake real questions. I don't think it
would be what the internet has painted you as where
it would just be getting off Drake quote unquote talking points.
I think you'd ask him real shit. And I think
it'd be a comfortable environment. And if he wouldn't want
me there, I wouldn't feel no fucking way. Well just

(01:01:54):
just bring me back some tim wltons And you know,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Know, No, I don't think it's something wanting you to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I just you know, I just laugh at certain shit
that I read online sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Because I've never been honest Jewelry. I've never thought about
sitting and talking to Drake on camera. It's never once
crossed my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Why is that? Because I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Our conversation and our exchanges are like that of me
and any of my other homeboys, where it's like I
never thought about having my homeboy in front of a
camera asking him the sh that we talk about. So
I get Drake is who he is, but I don't
look at it through that lens or look at it
with that mindset. It's like we speak, we laugh about shit,

(01:02:41):
we talk about shit. He's you know, trusted me with
some of his music and some of you know, personal
shit he's going through. But I think it's that because
he knows that I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking interview.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I don't If Drake never gives me sit down on
the camera, I wouldn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Oh no, But I know that part right, But people
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I'm saying it for people that I don't know that.
So I've never thought about, Oh damn, I hope he
comes sitting. That's never once crossed my mind. So when
you say if you have a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Real relationship him, that's why they think you're doing it
to leverage an interview, which I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Know is which is fucking crazy. But that's cool. They
could think that. But what I'm saying is, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
If you and me and you didn't have a podcast
together and you're putting out dope albums and this, that
and the thirty you had gone through some shit, you
my guy, I wouldn't be thinking, like, damn, I hope
Rory one day wants to come and sit on camera
and we could have this come that shit doesn't even
cross my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
With a real friendship. There's an artist that But now
if you sell you, I I want to get off
more and I want to get it off with you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Set up the camera's pause. All right, cool, But I'm
not in my mind that doesn't even you know. So
when I see people say, oh, he didn't he gotta
get mall in it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Why why?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Like I don't because because truthfully, truthfully, the things that
we talk about I wouldn't even talk about on camera.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I would never ask him that on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
You get what I'm saying, Because I just don't think
that people are even worth to answer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Okay, you know what I mean? Because it's like, okay,
even if he says, even if we get Drake, we
get we get the d let's paint the scenario form,
we get the Drake interview. Gosh, we asked every question
that's online. Everybody stands for the week. I don't whatever
Drake said, bring the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Wherever.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I wouldn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Let's do it in Toronto, even if he's in New York.
Let's fly this throng.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
There's things that we've spoken about that I would never
ask on care.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Of course, but I still think there's like basic ship
that Bobby's not gonna ask, or it'll be pitched as
like a sarcasm. She'll be like, but she's like, who's
this Kendrick cut? Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
But even even if she does that right, even if
she asks the hard hitting questions, even.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
If she gets to like Bobby asking her, I'm just
saying we're a pivot. She'd go from that that human
ship to fucking Barbara Wall. Don't know. I know that,
we don't know work done. I don't know if she
got working on. So you're putting out I don't know
about that. What I'm saying is it's certain shit that
I would never ask. I just would not ask like
it's just I'm just not I'm not, But it's not

(01:05:07):
that I got that serious to me. I guess my
point is the stuff that would be fine to ask,
I think you would ask, and that's the stuff that
people want to hear, the stuff that you know and
you know only just y'all conversations. I don't even think
that's the stuff people would even want.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Story even in that, you know why, it doesn't matter
because even if he answers the question you could ask,
whatever question.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
It's gonna be tough satisfying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It's not gonna satisfy in me fucking body, no matter
what he says, no matter what he does, no matter
what album he puts out, people already having in mind
that don't like Drake and that don't like Cool, it
doesn't matter what he says. So when people get all
worked up about him announcing who he's sitting down talking to,
I'm just laughing because I'm like, no matter who he

(01:05:51):
talks to, people are still gonna feel a way about it.
So that's why I'm just like, yo, I don't even
think like that. Like my thing is that I want
great music and I want people to be happy in
their lives and mother.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Raise their families.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
That's I don't care if he sits down or she
sits down with what again? I don't care, bro, I
really that ship does not cross my mind at all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I don't care about it. Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
What if Drake asked you to do Bobby's second episode
in the event that he has uh invested into this
new venture?

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Like me and Bobby sit down?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Want to want to be in the next guess like
how she went to like Drake and then Mark Cuban,
It'd be like Drake and then Mare.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Oh I'm kicking with Bobby? Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I probably wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I wouldn't. I mean, yeah, she seemed like it seems
like a cool like a cool conversation, like you know,
I mean, like what's the what's the pushback there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Like I don't really care that much. Yeah, Like I'm like, okay,
call me a culture vulture. I did. I've definitely went
on rants about Bobby.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I just don't really care that much about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
H In the beginning, it was a little it was
just a little weird.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I thought. What was weird was like she was a plant,
Like where did she go?

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yeah, it was more so that and like, uh, where
her like the specific type of acts in the beginning
that her team was focused on, and then she branched
out and then had to come back to hip hop
because that the real reaction with that dry humor stuff
came because she was coming from outside of the culture.
When she would do it with you know, whether it

(01:07:25):
be Bobby Lee or Mark Cuban or other people, she
couldn't lean on that because you weren't getting the same
reaction either the comedian was carrying it or Mark Cuban
was just answering like he wouldn't any interview, which just
wasn't interesting the way it was when Drake is playing
Rack City Bitch and she's like, I don't know who
this is, or she's doing an awful bit. I forgot

(01:07:46):
Shorty's name of I'm a musician, I'm a magician, which
which I don't eve understand why'll found that like that
was such a bad stage bit. So, yeah, I've definitely
had some pushback, But what I do with Bobby's jenner VI, Yeah,
I don't like, I don't care that much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I just don't know when people get so worked up
about these things. I just don't know who they be
wanting people like who do y'all? Y'all like you can't
sit and talk with everybody, Like no artists can sit
and talk with everybody. So when people get upset, oh,
he's not talking nobody from the culture. He's not talking.
He said and talked with one of his cloturemen's yachty.
They had a conversation and they kicked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That was pre.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Beef though, Yeah, okay, so now post beef, they want
who do they want?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Know? I think that's everyone's point that Drake was very
much talking to everybody in the culture pre beef, and
now that that happens, it's only been streamers that are
not of not even just hip hop, just not music period.
So it appears like you're avoiding any type of question
that would be asked, which, by the way, I'm fine

(01:08:50):
with at the moment, because I think there's a time
and place when you can address those things, and I
think it should come with the album. If he wants
to just fucking kick it with streamers now and just
make a little hoot shot jokes every now and then, cool,
But at some point I think he needs to sit
down with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I think he does, and I think he will. I
also don't feel I also don't understand how.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I also I'm with you on that as well, But
I just don't understand how people don't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
See the side of it where.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Somebody like Drake and what he you know, is currently
dealing with and going through what he went through and
what he had to sit back and watch people support
and amplify. And I don't understand how people don't see
how he's turned off and like, I'm never fucking with
them again. I'll never kick it with them again. I'll

(01:09:42):
never go to that radio station again. I'll never sit down.
How do people not see that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Oh? So, see the thing is people are taking it.
Oh it's this hip hop, it's just raps entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Cool, But you're not the person standing there that has
to watch people support a message about you that again
is the most egregious, most disgusting thing they could ever
put on the man, especially a father. How do people
not factor that in? Like, maybe he's never going to
Hot ninety seven again. Oh, maybe he's never fifteen years ago.

(01:10:16):
I was just so, I was just bringing in other
but I'm saying, why do people not why do people
feel like he should just get over it and just
move on and just sit down with everybody and talk that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Why do that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
I just said it just one No, I'm just I'm
just going to question, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Why do people people don't factor that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
You want to have from them, because because when you
get somebody that is of that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Why do you want to hear from him so he
can answer question? People are like, Nah, he's lying, He ain't. No,
that's not how you feel. You know he's lying now
he don't. Why are you suing the Nah, you're suing
the labels?

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
You a rat, you a snitch? What? What the fuck
are we talking about here?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
And obviously I'm not saying Kendrick hasn't done little Easter
egg stuff like the super Bowl promo or anything. But
for the most part, he stays quiet and off social media,
whereas Drake with the Iceman episodes. There's a bunch of
things still regarding the beef Instagram, He's talking about it
a lot, he says stuff on stage, certain times, he's
wearing certain outfits that address it. That's where I think

(01:11:11):
people want more from him. It's like, all right, if
you're going to keep constantly reminding us every day about this,
plus all the lawsuit stuff that goes out every day.
People want to hear from Drake. I don't think it's
crazy for fans to want to hear from him when
he also constantly, in his own way, brings it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Up as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Whereas Kendrick not to say he's quiet all the time,
he finds different ways to go about it, less energy
over there because he's kind of to himself, whereas Drake
is forward facing with it, even when he's talking to
these streamers about gamble and I'll throw in low shots
like no.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
The difference is Drake is the biggest artist in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
And constantly addressing it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Well should he not?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
No, I think he should. I'm just believe answering why
people would want to hear from Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
They're going to always want to hear from the biggest
artists in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Sure, but specifically that's why the rap Radar interview was
so held it Outside of of beat Out and Elliott
doing a great job in that interview and asking every
question we wanted to hear, there was a lot going
on in Drake's life at that time, whether it be
his kid, whether it be the meek milshit, whether it
be the pusha t shit, like a lot was going
on where we want to hear from the biggest artist

(01:12:15):
in the world, and this is the first biggest artist
in the world that we've had access to. You can't
name another artist at Drake's level that we've ever had
access to the way we have access to him. No
other a lister of that magnitude has been on social
media the same way, the same way. Be outside, like
that's where things are a bit different. Like even shit

(01:12:37):
with Madonna, who was kind of outside like that, she
was still like you still question you still didn't know
what was going on, Like you didn't know she was
dating Hasten Jack. If she had Instagram, maybe you would
be like, you have questions, Yeah, why are you walking
out with Haitian Jack? Why are you on Live with
Haitian Jack?

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Things would be different. But yeah, he's forward facing. He's
the most forward facing star we've ever had in music.
I asked a question to you, so people once they
get a taste of that, now you got to live
in this world. No you don't, I'm saying from a
fan perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Yeah, well, fans got to understand that an artist is
not doesn't have to move when you say move and
do what you say, do and skip.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Of course that's all, And of course I mean listen.
The fact that Jesse's even given us more answers than
Drake is probably why we're on this side. Jesse, did
you watch the doc?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
No, I would never watch it, Jesse Smoley, Jesse Simule,
I would never watch his doctor watch he's in it
because I told you years ago. Man, the fucking sandwich
made it home. Like cut this ship. Don't piss on
me and tell me it's raining, bro, Like, let's just
come downstairs so we can fight, like like what you're
talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Like, No, I don't want to watch this shit. I
don't want to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Like I know, I'm not one of these people that
I don't want to watch this shit. I don't want
to see another O. J. Simpson documentary. I don't want
to see another Jesse Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
You don't need another one, but I'd always watch.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
I don't want to see none of that ship. I
don't care about none of this shit. Jussey is a liar.
The fucking the sub made it home after he got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
The hung the noose the noose.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
The noose made it. He got waited at the bottom
of bleach, Like, what do we talk? How the fuck
did the meatball sub make it back to the condo?
What the fuck do we know?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Nothing happened, bro, nothing happened to you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
All right? So I watched it, of course you did.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
You go. You the type of person you gonna see
a rabbit hole and you're gonna go get your rabbit
ears and jump in it. Yeah, yeah, you that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
If Elmer Fudd is with a gun right there, I'm
jumping right with the ears on. Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
So what did stay? Standing on a hint and told Jesse.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
The first half of it is everything you've seen before.
There's been a million Jusse docs. You guys can skip
the whole first half of the documentary. It's nothing new whatsoever,
except you're speaking to the actual cops that even did
a few interviews before. Now, what I took away from
this doc it was kind of me looking in the
mirror as a conspiracy theorist. We are so easily turned

(01:15:07):
over by absolute nonsense when we want everything to be
a conspiracy. So the second half of this doc has
like three journalists that aren't even like, Nay, we don't
even know the fuck they are. They're just some random people.
Yeah that like went and got some footage and started
questioning it. And I saw the timeline turn on Friday
of like, damn, maybe Jesse was telling the truth. So

(01:15:31):
when I go, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
What these documentaries are, and that's what they intended to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Someone as conspiracy theorists were so easily turned two people
that we have no idea who the fuck they are,
started saying, you know, ten seconds is missing here. Then
they found a clip of two guys that matched the
clothing description walking past Jesse's building, and they're like, those

(01:15:56):
are two white men. And then they passed the fucking
iPad around to everybody. That's white men. That's white men.
I watched the clip that's two fucking black guys. Like
everyone was like, nah, shit is different now. I said, Yo,
what we are so easily swayed when we want something
to be a conspiracy. They found footage of the two brothers.

(01:16:17):
Just say like, you don't know what black people look like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
It's stupid. That's why I can't watch it. Don't look
like white men, That's why I can't watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
I was like that's a white man. No it's not. No,
that's two black guys.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Listen, man, we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Know and the brothers like, yeah, that's right there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
They followed. They followed all the cameras, the Uber share
to the cab, everything, the brothers all the way with
ring cameras back to their exact fucking address. This is
this is a non story. He fucking lied like trying
to make this now into and granted, I think the
Chicago police have lied for a century, they're just not

(01:16:54):
lying here like this is ridiculous of how they tried
to shift them to here's some new information. No, this
is a money wrap and you found three halfway YouTube journalists,
no disrespect to try to make a new story off
some footage that is bullshit. What's funny is they're big.
Their big get was Jesse was like, well there was two.

(01:17:17):
There was two witnesses that no one ever brought up
that was in court. There was this black kid that
says he saw two white men later on the dock.
They passed the iPad to him with the footage that
everyone keeps saying these are white men. He's the only
one that went on nots to black guys.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
And there you have it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
This is why star witness went nots to black guys,
and this is why I can't watch that shit come on.
And then there was another witness in the buildings that
she saw a white man outside the building. But that
all was weird to me too, because he got allegedly
jumped like blocks the way wasn't even in front of
his building like that. Yeah, he made it look like
this is just not like a this is not a

(01:17:58):
thing why black people saw. They made me as somebody
like I had to look at my own kinds, like
what do we like? We get jet fuel can like
it can bend beams. It can't melt them, but it
can bend them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
We And even though I think that one is true,
not everything is a conspiracy, dough like, no one was
conspiring against that. I'm not watching it because after you
go back to the hour and a half evidence before that,
let's just get to the facts. Two white guys on
the coldest day in Chicago history, we're walking around a
wealthy neighborhood with a noose and bleach that also are

(01:18:33):
fans of Empire. Yeah, and happened to run across Jesse
Smilettit subway.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
You got a better chance of bumping in the Michael
Jordan on a cold night in Chicago than Jesse smile.
Are you fucking kidding me? No, Man, that ship. I
can't watch it like that. You know what I watched.
I watched the Cowboys documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Oh that's on my cue.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
That the trailer. I'll watched that good, good documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Those heads that admitted.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I mean, there's been some, you know, Cowboy documentaries. This
is not the first one, obviously, but this was. This
was a good one. It's good to see, you know,
them have Dion in the documentary being with coach coach
promise that in his life now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
But it was a really good documentary. You should definitely
check it out. Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I didn't realize that it's been thirty years since the Cowboys,
up since they won the Super Bowl, But yeah, man,
those days it was it was good seeing those old
highlights and those games and you know, like reliving those
moments like oh shitting and hear in the back stories
from irs Emma Smith and Deon Sanders and Michael Irvin.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
And even Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Like I kind of heard stories about Jerry Jones over
the years, but seeing him in the documentary What Stories
Your Well him just being ah too, Tony. No that
he addressed that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
But no, he was there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
He was just checking it out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
He didn't know what was going on. He was just
at school that day.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
But I saw a group of people like what they're doing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Who are yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
And they just called him in the backgrounds. That's that was.
But no, him, you know, the way he purchased the
team and him just really wanting to be hands on
with everything, and then you know, kind of him and
coach Johnson kind of like you know, having it their
their their spat, but them also being such close friends
and winning a national title at Arkansas and College together.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
It was just good to see.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
That dynamic of Jerry Jones, who just was a guy
who you know, believed in this team that he bought
and wanted them to be great and was willing to
do any and everything what other men doing the laundry
for the team, whether it men, you know, whatever it was.
He just wanted to be a part of the organization.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
He didn't just want to own the team and just
you know, be in his office looking down on everybody
like he wanted to really be in the mix and
you know, you know, and be and be in the
players faces and let the players know that he was
there for them. The whole thing I forgot about when
they was trying to call Troy Troyman a racist. I
forgot about that whole thing in the nineties and then

(01:21:01):
Troy being there front row and Michael Irvin had to
go to court for his ship, like you know, like
it was just it was just cool to see to
see those gentlemen where they had in their lives now
kind of relived that and talk about those moments in
those days. But it was a good documentary. Definitely should
watch it. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but you cannot be.
You cannot grow up in the nineties watching football and
not you know, just have respect for what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Is it safe to say, though that they're not America's
team late eighties, in the nineties, they they had legendary run.
Does that make you America's team? I mean, if you
want to get to the technicality technicality, the technicalities is
there's a dynasty called the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Well, yes, I think every America successful.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Yes, But I liked what coach Khlor from the Steelers
He was like, if anything, Pittsburgh is the fucking America's team,
Like I'm not at Collins, still in Country, like still
Mills State, like you know we like so when he
said that, I was like, got a point there, like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, if you're gonna name actually they campaign in Pennsylvania,
you get what I'm saying. That's that's an America.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
But you know, just the Cowboys being one of the
most recognizable franchises, recognizable logos in the world, being worth.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
I think probably eight nine ten billionaire.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
It's outside of Yankees, it's probably no. Number two, But
I don't know because LaaS just so, so, what do
you think Lake Boys would sell for?

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Oh wait, Demarus is calling us. You're going to try
to celebrate for her.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, let's see what she's doing. Man, she's on vacation.
You know that time on Conspiracy Theorist. Check it out,
Baby de been calling out, missing work, all kind of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
We're getting close with the predictions might be coming true. Yo. Listen,
I'm gonna let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
It might retire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she don't got to work.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
No man, listen, man, we gotta call it and check
yourself a Richmond. Let's checking on baby D right now.
See what the hell going on?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Don't try to celebrate. I'm sure she's between that like
dinner and uh later night activity whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
You better answer this goddamn phone. I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
No, she's calling special guests in the Zoom Zoom room
live from who the fuck knows Baby D. And the
D is for making d D D is that d
R undisclosed location. I'm in kurausel curausew.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
I know what they'll do outside. A lot of topless
beaches out there, A lot of new beaches.

Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
You just made that up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
A lot of new beaches and curres out there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Yeah, where is cursel like in the world?

Speaker 7 (01:23:41):
Aruba and air is part of the ABC Islands.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Oh okay, so the LGBT they got the whole ship.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Now, yo, listen, they got island.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
They got islands, they got all kind of they got
clothing brands.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
You put it right up there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
I left it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I left it alone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Yeah, baby, how you feeling.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
I'm okay. I'm in a little bit of pain, but
I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
We just wanted to We just wanted to checking on
you. You know what I'm saying. See how you was feeling,
See how you was doing. Make sure you're getting you
know your tan on. You got the right oils because
you know it's melanated people. We gotta have the right
oils when we sit in that sun.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Now, mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
Yeah, I'm good. I'm getting ten. I'm outside. Actually I'm
not outside. I've been in this airbnb this entire time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
But but that's outside.

Speaker 7 (01:24:21):
Yeah, somebody outside.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Yeah, there you go. Look at you?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
That is that the front nine? Youna lift golf in
the background. You're not gonna go play. No, you're not
gonna we'll go play. No live golf.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
You gotta pay live golf, regular golf. You gotta play
live golf.

Speaker 7 (01:24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
So what's your vacation swag? Like, what do you usually
do besides falling the pool? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
What?

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
That's why I tell you ship you talk too much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Oh no, we're gonna show the video too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Yeah, we gotta post that clip. Actually, that's gonna be
the thumb. Noiw is that gonna make?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Is that gonna make one of your locks?

Speaker 7 (01:24:52):
I was thinking about it. It's embarrassing though.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Baby, when the last time your leg went like that
far behind you and like because that looked like it,
that looked like you could be out for about three weeks.
Jason Tatum might have felt just like that one time
I was out bro.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Ther whole jaw, and that we could actually tease it
here and then you could put it on your vlog,
so like everyone will rush to see you bust your
ass on your vlog.

Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
You want to see my bruise, look at my brus
God yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Oh yeah, no, that's bad. That's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Holy ship all right for those Jamarus was trying to
like be sexy by setting the camera up and walk
on the side of the was that the invisible pool,
never never ending Infinity pool? Trying to walk in the
infinity pool and completely.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Slid invisible pool that was right there. We can see
the pool.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
It's infinity No, it gives the Lord that it's just
never never ending.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Well, Demarus is still falling. Yes, it was the Infinity fall.
She was walking on the side and straight busts her
ass trying to look sexy for the vlog. But that
was the funniest video, Like I air dropped that to
my computer too, Like that needs to be on multiple clouds.
When you when you when you're coming back to work
to work.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Yeah, niggas ain't get.

Speaker 7 (01:26:01):
My two weeks in the mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:26:02):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
But I mean let me know, like you know what
I'm saying, let me look out for it from Yeah,
where where'd you mail it from? And where'd you mail
it to?

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
Like from from here middle of the ocean, so.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Right, Yeah, that takes more days to take a little
more day. We might get that Thursday or on trip.
It's all good.

Speaker 7 (01:26:22):
Yeah, I'll be her Thursday. I'll be a work Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Any any women of the night out there?

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Nah?

Speaker 7 (01:26:27):
But down I d in clubs here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
That's that's not good.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
No, it ain't.

Speaker 5 (01:26:33):
It ain't good because I went to we went to
go pay for some girl to get in, and we
realized the ain't I d her?

Speaker 7 (01:26:37):
And I looked at her, and he looked at her,
and we.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Said, y'all went to pay for a girl to get in?

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
Yeah, like she was going to get in or whatever,
and we were going to pay for her to get in.
But then we realized that they didn't I d her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
This was some random gol that y'all just saw it. Yeah,
she was.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Pretty, but he looked young, but she looked too young
to be in a club.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
I was like, I, which'll like eighteen nineteen young or
like fourteen fifteen years But she.

Speaker 7 (01:27:04):
Was like, come on, bro, no, she looked like she
was like twenty. She looked like she could be twenty three.
She could be oh after.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
When you say young, she could not be.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
And we weren't gonna find that out on our own.
So now I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Is the club age even twenty one out there? I
feel like it's eighteen.

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
I don't know. I think it's like eighteen. That's what
I wasn't. We weren't thinking that, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Had something else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You mom to be careful. You don't want to come
back with a rico. Get you for trafficking right now?
You you don't cross little condoscar. Yeah, that's how see,
that's how you have the marathon.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Yo, we're your doc dropper.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
All right, man, I lit't me. Is your guess laying? Yeah,
it's not me.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
That girl name is Gilaylay, not very Max, whatever her
name is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Just make sure you don't do nothing on at island
that we can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Here in America. Every all rules still apply. Just because
you abroad. Don't try to mix in with the with
the locals.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
And do locals. We fly right to a ruber. He
tried this house.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
He tried to They took the gas out of his jest. Yeah,
it is like, nah, Fair, you ain't taking off.

Speaker 7 (01:28:12):
Baby about today? What gonna talk about without me? That's crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Oh man, I got all kind of questions for Rory today.

Speaker 5 (01:28:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yeah, I just want to just want to talk to
Rory today. I don't even care about what's going on
in the culture. I didn't even do anything this weeknd no, no,
not like no interrogation questions.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
I just want to know, Like Josh giggling over there,
like like I missed the pre production meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Oh no, no, no, nothing like that, just just kicking it.
We had to check. We had to check in on
baby dealal make sure you was good out there.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
Yeah cool, Thanks thanks for calling.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
It's technically our four hundredth episode, which technically it's not.
It's not with all the Patreon episodes and we we
well four hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
But our additional episode. We didn't put a.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Number two regular episode, our four hundred regular episode, which
is important, right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I guess is it important?

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
I mean yeah, I guess it is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
It's like important to YG it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Important if you do four hundred of anything. I mean,
if you try to eat four hundred manzarella sticks. That
was very important.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
That's why she's still That's why you still got gas. Now,
what's the play of the rest of the trip? You
guys do your ATV shet.

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
No, we might, we might jet ski, we might sleep.
We really out of We don't know. We're old, bro,
we old, we old.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
This nigga just turned thirty. What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
I'm thirty plus.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
That don't even but you got a You're not even
a full thirty one yet though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Listen, I'm old, y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:29:37):
See I got this robe and it's like twelve o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Rob is just that's vacation shit. That's I don't care
how old you all. I ain't nigga nohe to do
with being old. Vacation of rover is a must when
you on vacation.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:29:50):
That's pretty big on the tide of talking your niggas
for rom on vacation.

Speaker 7 (01:29:55):
It's feels too much like work. I love y'all. Happy
four hundred. This was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Four hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
For by Safe Travels.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
Get some rest, okay, right next time? I text you
at eleven o'clock PM. Don't fake sleep, bro, I hate them. Like,
if you get asked, just say that, like, don't fake sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:30:12):
At eleven o'clock. Well, first of all, wow, I was
knocked up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
That's because I was in bed with Lamara, so you're gross.
But yes, I was asleep with that time, just because
I get under these girls.

Speaker 7 (01:30:27):
Me like the niggas from Brooklyn Road.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
All right, I'm gonna holler at you bye.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
You see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Her energy is a little even different too, vacation, nonchalant.
They didn't really want to talk. No, I'm I'm with
you on your the.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
I know that I think she's about to retire now
it's over. Hey, hey look, hey, who'll be breaking the death?
Y'all might be right. You might have called that one right,
she might be out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Well you just found out last week that she had
a man. Yeah, so, I mean you know how, from
my understanding, he's pretty financially stable.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Oh god, I would love for a girl to retire me.
Oh man, I would love to just zoom in with
y'all from Curse a curros out zoom from care like, yeah,
let me check my lady. I'll be the house husband. Yeah,
let me check with her to see if it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Sorry, let me see what's on her schedule. She got playing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
I need to make her dinner. Oh yeah, absolutely, and
make her shoes. That's crazy though. Shit, that was like
a whole different demeris aura. I feel like vacation vacation.
Excuse me, Nah, that was the vacation where I think
I could be on permanent vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
I like this life.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
I could do this soft life.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
I could do this with that said, do we have voicemails?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Josh got mail.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
These are brought to you by Boost. Let's see what
everyone has to say this week. Yo. So I got
this girl that I work with, right and don't do
it. It was these two girls that I work with and me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:49):
We were just talking about just you know, people locally
that we know whatever, whatever. Long story short, this one girl,
her name is Cast. She shows me this video of
this one girl. It's a sex video. It's this girl
getting fucked, you know what I mean, on her phone
and they're talking about how you know this girl, she's
she's trash, she's no good whatever, whatever, And I said, Cas,

(01:32:12):
why do you have that in your phone, Like why
are you holding on to it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Like what do you have to do with this?

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
And she just says, oh, I just have this for
blackmail just in case this girl wants to talk shit
or just in case me and this girl ever have
a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
And dog, I thought that was the.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
Weirdest shit Ever's I've never heard of anybody doing any
shit like that in my life, Like that is wild.
Just in case you have you have sex blackmail on
your phone of this girl, just in case she ever
fucks with you. Let me know, especially Baby D, let
me know, is this a normal thing that girls be

(01:32:50):
doing out here?

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Well? Baby D is making her own sex blackmail video. Yes,
in CURSL right now, Yes, she's making it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
She's making a three part documentary and Cure us out
with the same producers of the Jesse, same ones, same ones.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
I think anything with people have in sex is way
over the line, Like I think the revenge Born thing
is corny. I think all that those are private instrument moments. Yeah, definitely.
I've always found that like very uh, that stuff needs
to say sacred. Those are intimate moments. There is something

(01:33:26):
when I was a less becoming person that I have
held in my phone as blackmail at the time. I
don't care anymore. There was somebody that I mean, beef
is a two way street pulse. I didn't feel like
I was beefing with this person. And for all you
read it and YouTube people, it's it's not anything which
you think of the podcast world. I promise you don't

(01:33:47):
need to do the science. There was somebody that was
a complete weirdo on the internet. I have a video
of him fighting somebody that pretends to be a tough guy,
like that's his whole image is I'm tough, Like I'm
that guy. I'll beat anybody up this and that. I
have a video of him fighting and it does not

(01:34:08):
appear that he knows how to fight at all. And
I have had that in my phone for about a decade.
It's just been sitting there just in case somebody has
just been talking about me for longs like I had.
But it's there like it exists. Yeah, and I wouldn't
do anything with it now. I'm not that person. I

(01:34:28):
honestly do not care. If I came across that person.
We're not going to ever be friends or speak. But
it's not on site. I don't give a fuck. Yeah,
fucking thirty five years old with the daughter. But there
was times when I was like, one day crossed the hedge,
just say one thing on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
He letting it fly.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Yeah, but that's like, don't do this tough guy shit.
When I have a full minute video of you. Clearly
it looked like and I don't want to shoot on Meek,
but remember when everyone killed Meek when he was just
hitting the bag. It was worse than that. Yeah, I
was like, I thought you was the biggest thug in
New York.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Yeah. Nah, I don't know if I have any any
videos like that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
And losing a fight to somebody that's not a tough guy, right,
somebody that's just a cool who's actually smoking shit currently
right now. And you people know what I'm talking about.
And you losing a fight to somebody that is just
a cool guy that don't be mine of his business.
Don't act like a tough guy. Just be chilling, yeah,
soft spoken, respectful.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Those are the ones. Though.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
He couldn't fight either, But how you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
I thought you say like he was kicking ass or
something like that, but he couldn't fight either, Okay, okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
It looked it looked like fucking too fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Okay, sorry, my back, that's not okay to say more. No,
one can't let that fly bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
No, it was just a hilarious video and I kept
that in my phone. I may have even put Michael
Jackson beat It music behind.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Oh you have with it? Oh you started editing the video? Okay,
got you? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Yeah? So all right, I get the blackmail thing. I
think anything sexually related that's crazy. That's fucked up because
that's an intimate thing. You're trying to blackmail someone with
intimate moments. How that got on your phone? Like, that's
weird and get rid of it. But now I feel
like somebody that fought in public and somebody just happened
to send me that video. I think I can hold that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yeah, but like you said, now, oh no, I wouldn't.
Yeah something, get get what you're saying. Yeah, No, that
that's putting out or holding somebody's sex tape.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
And I've ran into that person and realized, oh, you're
not who you say you are more than once.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
So yeah, at this point, that's different from a sex tape.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
That's way, no way different, that's totally different. I'm not
comparing the too. I was just trying to bring up
my experience of a black male video that I happened
to have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have no black mail.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
I don't and I'm the thank God because I don't
want people to send me like sexual blackmail videos. But
that's like an interesting strategy. Is that what women are
doing in the streets, like, yo, you got beef with this?

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
But that's what he's that's what he's asking. I don't know.
I don't know if women to do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
I know women can be very caddy and very you know,
sure they could play those games, but that's a I
mean with the t app now, right, is that like it?
I don't know that that that could be something for
the tea app.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Yeah, if I just if you're doing it, I mean,
if you want to send you a dick and all
that to somebody, cool, But sending somebody else to email
them is like a whole nother that's a whole another
level where like how but they've got to be in
like their early twenties or something, or they're older on Facebook,
because I've noticed that about old people that are on Facebook,

(01:37:35):
they're very petty in Blackmaily, No.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
That's just women. Sometimes it could be very petty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
But also then just showing that to somebody at work,
that's wild. There was somebody that we both know in
the music industry that used to do that. That would
be very odd not send he would show himself two
women at like industry dinners like fucking I always found
that like really strength. He doesn't have a documentary out

(01:38:01):
on him yet I could happen that sounds that wasn't
like I don't make it seem like I was like
uh co signing anything like I just everyone knew that
that was like his go to, like maybe it worked
way what mean you go to is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Fucking wow, and you know who it is he gonna
show you his sex tay what Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
The amount of women that have told me, I'm like, yeah, no,
everyone says he does that like but not like like
not sends it to them, which both are wrong, but
like would just be out be like yo, and he'd
be doing all like some bestie like friends. I think,
like a dog in this chick out last night and
show it to a girl he worked with, like at
a label. What show do not show me that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Like I have a theory about guys will do that
what's your theory. I think they gay?

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Okay, you want to prove to women.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
You're a coworker that you want to prove to women
that you sleep with women, proven.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Of somebody hed get bitious, like be into women, that
you get bitches is funny.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
I'm just saying I have. It's just a theory. So
it's not no you conspiracy theory. It's just a theory
that men that do ship like that. I've always looked
at them, like, why are you looking for that validation?
Like what you feel like? They're behind your back? They
might feel like you like men, So anybody got to
prove that. Nah, I'll be fucking women. I sleep with women.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Okay, Now you say that I had theories about that guy. Yeah,
and I know when I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Let me go, let I've seen your wills turn to
get keep thinking you go. You're gonna see the moment
in your in your mind when I tell you who's
the Leo moment like he.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Is gay, he's gay. It's gonna tell you who it is.
Off Mike, You're gonna saying, now you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Blow the name.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
I'll say now, one hundred percent, one hundred percent homosexuality absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
I think I met him through you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
No, no, No, we're not doing that. No you did not.
I yes, you did not know. I promise you did not.
You know who you met him doing?

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
It was not No, but who brought him into the circle.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
He did not me?

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Oh, I thought you did the fuck? No, I got No.
I have no issues with him outside of doing that
to well, I think I think that was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
On what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
You definitely do like we're not friends where I'd be like, hey, bro,
don't do that, nothing like that. But he did.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
No, you didn't mean him through me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
No. Oh I thought you would have brought him around.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
No, definitely not absolutely not Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
But once you started saying that, I'm like, yeah, actually
always thought.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
He was good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
I'm telling you it's there's little reminists there. But yes,
to your coworker, she's bugging, And definitely don't tell her
none of your secrets because she's gonna probably be wearing
a wire or voice record you telling her some ship
by the fucking water cooler at work. So be careful
with her because she got that, she got that caniving
you know, blackmail energy, blackmaile spirit inside her.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
So I guess I trust nobody like that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
I guess I just don't understand with like blackmail to
that level. Doesn't blackmail really work because of like public perception,
Like I understand like rappers because of how weird the
rap genre has always been in that regard, if you
have to be on your toes, you never know who
revealing certain things is part of that. What is she

(01:41:13):
going to show it to? She's gonna post it on
Facebook before it gets flagged and three people are gonna
see it, Like, what's the blackmail here? You blackmail are
from money?

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Like there'd be so she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It was somebody that she was sleeping with that she
wasn't supposed to be sleeping with. It could be that
type of situation.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
But all right, what's your end game? I guess with blackmail,
I don't fully understand it unless you have a proper
end goal. What is even with even without the person,
even with whrrors that do the NBA thing? Like what
am I going to sue you for? You don't have anything? No,

(01:41:49):
but what what are we exposing to four people in
the world that no one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Knows about in her circle and her community at work
that maybe somebody she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Supposed to be sleeping with, so she could lose their
job or something.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Lose their job. It could be a you know, it
could be somebody's husband.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Okay, but what are you then exploiting this person for.
You're not knee deep in the home rerecords, So you know,
I'm gonna go to HR with this video. You fucking
let's just use the coworker thing. You fucking a coworker.
I show you, I got the evidence here. What do
you do? I get thirty percent of your paycheck? Like,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
No, but it's not, it's they just it's just to
out the person and to you know, expose them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
But the point of black man is to hold something
over their head so they do something else.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Well, no, yes, but I think that in her in
this so I'll expose this. Yes, that's typically how it goes,
but I think in this case it's she may have
something on this person as well. So it's like, all right,
I got dirt on you too, Like, so if you
expose my dirt, I'm expose your dirt.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
That's what this feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Okay, it feels like I see that if.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
She exposed what I did or what I be doing.
We just I got something on her too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yeah, I mean I'm I guess I understand the women
like keep it cute blackmail, Like bitch, keep it cute
because I know things.

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Yeah, but then even I don't know. With the Internet,
when everyone with one hundred followers puts their whole life
story or someone else's and it catches traction and goes
viral for a day, nothing changes in your life except
for everything around you failing. Yeah, the timeline moves on.
You benefited nothing from this, Yeah, but that's why you

(01:43:26):
to live in this world while the rest of us
went to the next messy timeline thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
It's just petty shit, that's all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
I mean I would tell that girl just delete it.
There's nothing good gonna come from it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Yeah, something you never know sometimes you gotta. When they
get petty, we get petty er. So that's what that's
what it feels like. If it's like that girl, No,
the other the girl in the video knows something about
her and she just holding that like all right, if
she ever try to expose my shit?

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
How do you determine that line?

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Because I'm not that type of person clearly, because there's
plenty of shit I could have told the world about
and never did. It would like when do you cross
that line? Like how do you how do you keep
it cute with an enemy publicly, like let's all relax.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
I mean this could go yeah, but I think it
depends on again, if if she exposes her for something
that only she knows, and she's like, yo, you know me,
hold that down. You know what I mean, don't never
let that cat out the bag because you know, I
got some shit on YouTube. So it's just that she
feels like if that ever gets exposed and she got

(01:44:32):
something to get her look back, I think that's it
feels like that it's not a black mail, that's that's
as she's trying to gain financially. Like in this situation,
it's just like I got some shit I can expose
her because she got some shit that she could expose
me as well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
That that's where you brought up handicaps before in podcasting,
and I'm not saying podcasting per se, but just in life,
like that's where I have a handicap. I would just
feel so nasty, like I'd feel like an actual female
Oh yeah, like I just I'm never gonna I don't
care how much like you say, that's that's true, false,
whatever the fuck you say. I'm just what I'm gonna

(01:45:08):
sit yo. Did you know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Yeah, that's what she's supposed to do on the podcast.
I know that that's what they want from me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
I'd feel so fucking like tweeting like did you know, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
What they want. They want that they want that gossip
be nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Just couldn't vindic I'm talking about like real shit, not
like funny banter back and forth shit. I'm like real
shit that I could say, Oh absolutely, I'd feel so weird.
It's like, even if somebody did something super foul publicly,
I still wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
I'm at a handicap, bro, or so I'm gon keep
saying'm a handicap in this in this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Industry, bro, because it's some ship that I would never ever.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Fucking say a repeat. But I know if I was
that type.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Of person and then for what for the fans to
listen for one day, yeah, talk about it on a
Twitter face viral, and then move on the next day
to the next time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
I don't do that because you know how it goes.
You go viral for some shit you said.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Then you get an interview on another platform talking about
the viral moment, and then you'll get a brand deal
based off the virality. I mean, no road spark, somebody,
somebody would come in and throw your bag, just.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Somebody, somebody had come in and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Throw your bag, just for going viral and being nasty
and exposing people.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
I don't really, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
No, I think there's there's a blot like the uh,
the way they say legacy media, I would say legacy gossip. Uh,
platforms and no disrespects like Shade Room, Jason Lee, Hollywood,
and a lot like I think they would say their gossip.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
No oh yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Yeah, like they of course get that. But you're just
saying something about somebody. You're not getting a brand deal.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
But Jason Lee gets a pass because he can do
that because he's gay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
No Jason, yes, right, and he's a senator, But but
he could do it. Also, Jason Lee also built a
legitimate fucking business, whether it be on gossip that's everyone else's. No.
He basically Jason Lee didn't just be like, hey did
you hear about No, No, no, no, that's a businessman that
created a whole shade room. I've disagree with a lot

(01:47:07):
of shit they've done. That's but it's not nasty. But
it's no, no, no, it's not nasty coming from Jason Lee.
It's expected, fair, it's expected.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
It's not nasty. It's expected.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
But then again, you have people like Nay don't like
the gossip world, nasty expectations.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
That's what it is, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
But TMZ in Hollywood unlocked. When they say something, I
believe them. So as much as they start they may
start out as gossip, they have made it to a
place where I look at TMZ. If somebody's dead and
CNN posts it, I'm like, I don't know. If TMZ
posts it, they're fucking dead. Yeah, gossip base, but that's

(01:47:44):
not gossip though somebody being dead. If Jason Lee says
something about Rihanna, I know that shit is one thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Percentro It depends on what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Jason, of course has had his gossip moments, but when
he say something, he's usually right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
One thing that will say he's not much of a liar.
I'm not gonna put lie on him. There's a lot
of ship he talked about there's a lot of lying about.
I don't know if Jason is wanted to be lying,
because I've seen him talk about ship. I'm like, how
do you know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
He ain't lying? Because I know that I'd be like, Yo,
he ain't lying because I've been.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Through that years ago, Like I knew that person was
doing so you know what I mean. But yeah, let Jason,
let Jason Lee get his ship off, but not me.
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
No, do we have another voicemail?

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
Rory Maul the marriage have a question for y'all? Would
y'all rather have your own radio station on Grand theft
uh be playable characters in the next Death Jam game?
I make an audio cameo and a Spider Man movie.

(01:48:52):
If these things can happen, what would y'all? What would
y'all pick? And what would the reason be?

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
That's a really, really really here the last what he
said audio cameo in a Spider Man movie?

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
An audio cameo?

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Yeah, as far as like, yeah, we were speaking, I
don't know if Spider Man was sweeching Man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
Through a cab, like spider Man listening to our podcast, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Or like you know, like sometimes they'll crash into a
cab window and just be like and then like, yeah,
maybe something like that, or versus what grand theft auto
radio station or being an actual character in a like
def Jam Vendetta fighting video game. I'm taking the Spider
Man one out right away. I'm only dealing with option

(01:49:36):
A and B at this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
The Spider Man one will be the obvious go to
you think, so absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
I don't think there's like staying value in that because
of those action movies, how quick everything goes. I don't
know if that audio.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Cameo Spider Man series fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
No, I'm aware of the audience, but like would have value,
Like are people going to be like, all right, let's
go listen to that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Here's what the DTA radio is interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
So the GTA radio one would be my immediate yes,
no matter what. Thing in the earlier GTA days because
shit music broke off that like you would sit there,
I could recite some of those commercials word for word
when you would just be out there trying to keep
But now when people stream people do other things with GTA,

(01:50:19):
they're also talking to other people. Is the GTA radio
have the same effect that it used to because now
everyone's doing other things while they're.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Playing gt Which one can we monetize?

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
I mean all three of the least one I would
say would be the Spider Man one that would be
a DJ Khalid dollar fee.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
So I would go with GTA Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
That's so many people play that game and actually, like
you know, me own that game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Like, I mean, it's who would even know what a
def jam like Vendetta game would do? Would be cool
to be a video game? Not that person. But no,
I was just about say, it's ego, you're not gonna
get any money. Who knows if it work? To me?
The obvious answer is GTA. But does that still sit
with people the way because I played the last g
t A But I mean they should. They be on

(01:51:04):
they call it duty ship with a bunch of people playing,
they talking to each other like it's the radio station.
Still the thing the way it was when I was
a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Well, for the simple fact that I just think that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
More people buy g t A and play GCA than
are gonna go watch a Spider Man movie.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
They're probably well no, probably not neck No.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
G t A is different fucking g t A video game. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
I remember I remember g T A two. This was
back when my cousin was throwing ferrets Bonnie and Clyde
on top of me. He had gt I remember g
t A two. It's like an aerial view. G t
A three is when like everything changed. It's like a
real video game. I remember that aerial V one. It's
so crazy that to watch those types of things.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Yeah, I will say g T a radio station on
g T A. Yeah they g g A.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
I mean, I know it's pretty much done, but like
we have a whole drop ox of ram ray deal
with funny ads if you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
If you need a radio station, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
They can update video games in real time now absolutely,
just throw us in the mix.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
The Spider Man one is just cool as fuck. That's
just like g TA is way cooler to me.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
And the Spider Man a hell know?

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
And which spider Man?

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Whose Spider Man?

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
That's like, which Spider Man we talk is in it?
I oh, it's in the cartoon one.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
The cartoon one man put me in g TA dog.
I'm a radio station.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
If you don't bring Toby back, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Sad Zinda and she's like rushing to get dressed and
like the pod is playing like in her crib or
something like that, and Spider Man is out out the
window like hurry up, we late, Like he gives a
ride to the to the like to the banquet, he
swings through the city like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
They don't listen to Frank Sinatra. They listen to you
and I dumb ass? Okay, No at that point, if
they're driving to the met Gala, yeah, okay, yeah, that
that would get us like some real Ryan's Crest type
press at that point, like what were they listening to?
Which shows how edgy and in the culture they are?
Yeah right, I wouldn't be bad at that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
And it's like us talking about like Spider Man being
seen in Manhattan last night.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
But if Spider Man crashes into like a woman uber
driver and she just happens to be listening to hey,
do we have voicemails?

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
I was like, I'm cool, Like, I don't think it's
going to resonate with the fans the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Way Yeah, no, give me GTA radio before that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Absolutely, But I mean that goes back to when I
asked you, I was that Patreon today or last episode
of Who Do You Want?

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
To fight.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
I still want to be like in a video game.
I think that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
In high school. All the three of these scenarios are cool.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
But oh yeah, yeah, being in a video game is
you know, that's I think that's taking you directly back
to your childhood.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Like, whoever, you never thought that you would be an
actual video game.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
But what if one of like the new GTA missions
because it's in Vice City's a new one, right, it's Miami.
I mean the world has changed. Criminals are going on podcasts.
What if we were like, like what if we were
a mission where like Vladimir whatever the fuck they they

(01:54:07):
make the guy name. He has to go on a
podcast one of the missions and like talk about his
crimes to get money in the video game. Yeah, like
let's say he snitched and then he no, but you
know the missions like and g t A you gotta
get money and like part of that is like he
goes on a podcast and like g t A, yeah, no,
we're it's this podcast. In g t A he does

(01:54:28):
the weird walk into our studio. I'm not mad at
that parks a stolen car outside that just stays.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
There, got you, Yeah, I'm not like you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Know how the like the rays come up, like when
he gets to the mission, like we're right here is
the mission?

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
Got you? Yeah, that he sits there, that would be
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
And then it's like you come in like, hey, we're
one of our family and it's just a g T
A whatever character they pick.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Oh, man, before we leave, we do got a highlight.
There's some new music where new music came out. We
spoke about a little bit. Preame Clientele too. Yes, shout
out the ghost Face, great project, great album.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Man, it's just dope to see you know, all the
older guy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
They say hip hop is a young man spoil but
it seems like all the older acts are putting out better,
better albums, better music.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
So shout out to ghost Face. Uh chance to.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Rapper, Well, yeah, man's that's been out two weeks, right,
it's been two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Oh No, off Set, off Set, Yes, we all heard
that album even though we've had it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
But you know, yeah, I like there's joints on there
that I like. No, definitely, as far as his solo projects,
this is this is definitely my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
But again, this is his best.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
This is that's one of those that I know. I'm
just gonna like certain records on those type of projects.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
But yeah, most artists, I only like certain songs on
that on the album, So I take those songs and
I go back.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
To them a little bit. But this is for me,
this is off Set's best solo project.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
But I have not stopped listening to that Chance album.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
It's a good project.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
But I'm gonna have give it. Give it four weeks,
I'm gonna start having some some crazy hot takes. Yeah,
about that Chance album, I've been playing it's one of
it's one of those to me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
I've been playing the Bryce until the devices. It sounds
good man. I like the way he I like the way.
I'm looking forward to the solids though.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
That's the one. I think that's the weather's changing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
That's the one for me. Yeah, I'm more concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
I like Vices Vices, No, it's it's it's dope, but
I like, I'm looking forward to to the solid project.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
I want to wait for Demeris to get back to
dive into Mariah the Scientists, because I know that's one
of her favorite artists. We do have to have a
Maria's Scientist pen conversation one day.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
Okay, what's the top.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Top ten right now. Yeah, Pen, I can see certain
music not being for you or whatever. Pen, I don't know,
man Ria might be top ten, I think. I think,
no matter what happens when Mariah's career, if Rihanna gets inspired,
Mariah should be writing mm hmm. She has that type
of being in my opinion, I.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
Never really listened to much of her music outside of
like the songs that I go to because you know,
people on Instagram post a song and their reels and
stuff like that. I'm like, damn, that sound dope, and
I'll go to the song. But I never really like
got into her like music like that, like really just
went and listened to all of her Shitna she be talking.
The songs I've heard are dope, though.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
I guess we'll just get the rest of this this
list off before we get out of here. Ice Spicey
is a new song with Mia sample. Didn't hear it?
I listen coming off to Denzel.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
Sure, I'm not letting you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Do what man, because you sound like you're trying to
sho on the the Bronx legend.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
I'm not. No, I capitalized like after Denzel was your
supporting actor, like you gave Denzel. Look now you're trying
to give I look like, I totally get it. Rampage
Jackson's son, You're a dirt.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Back to jail and he should go to prison, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
If he doesn't go to jail. Not that I don't
question our judicial system because of Jesse Smlett, but what
the fuck. That's the most sucker ship. Come on, We're
in a fake wrestling match and you start doing That's
the most sucker shit I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
That's absolutely I think he's definitely going to prison for that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Jada Kissing Beanie announced joined the album. Is that fully
confirmed or is that a back.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
And forth thing they were on I g on the video.
I saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
I saw it. I just didn't know. This is one
of those times that I think AI is a good thing.
I would love for Beans to lay all of his
vocals and have AI improve his voice based off the
unfortunate situation he was put in that affected his voice.
I think AI is good in this because I want

(01:58:52):
to of course, I want to hear Kissing Bean's history
one of the greatest battles of all time. Of Course,
I want to hear Kissing Beans together. I just hope
they use AI.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
They will. I think Beans has has has.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Beans right and lay everything down.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
But just I think he said that already. He would
he would definitely use that technology.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
Just just put his voice back to to what it was.
But I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
A lot of bars, a lot of bars.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Yeah, they they're not rapping like Kissing Beans and a
lot of these dudes, I ain't rapping like that. I'm
looking forward to that. Hopefully they make it happen, but
I would. I would love to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
When was the last time he went back to that
kiss in Fab project?

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Sometime last year. I listened to a couple of games.
That album was dope, though.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Go back to it today, slept on back to it today.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Yeah, that's one of the most slept on projects in
recent years. That that album is fucking yeah absolutely, Freddie
Virgus Jason right, Yeah, there was some joints on it, definitely,
I definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
I think we had that conversation though.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
That album was I went back to it. Yeah, it
is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
No, Yeah, that project was dope. That project was. I'm
listening to it tonight. Yeah, it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
My if only we were on the same label as
kiss and like could talk to him.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
That's the conversation for another day. Rory, we'll talk to
y'all soon.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Can you ask Volume to see if we can get
a Drake interview, See if they can reach out to
his team.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
Be safe, be blessed. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm
that nigga. He's just Ginger Peace. No

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