Episode 402 | Hotline Sing

Thursdays are usually for guests, but we had to switch it up this week. We got a guest episode dropping for y'all tomorrow. But we're officially back, and after catching up with what everybody did with their time off we make sense of Young Thug's leaked phone calls (27:50). Of course Mal thinks the government is after him smh. Rory actually enjoyed Bobbi Althoff's intervirew with Drake, and Demaris and Mal debate why Drake doesn't want to give interviews to traditional hip-hop media (1:08:16). Hot 97 lets go of DJ Enuff, and that hit a little too hard for Rory. How come Flex still has a spot, and is he the reason Enuff and Camilo are no longer on-air? (1:32:28) Plus, an update from the caller who hates her cousin...once again Mal was right (1:40:37) #volume

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
And we're back. Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (00:11):
Fab and Mano called out Jim Jones for using his
professional podcast voice too the way you did to me. Yes,
I felt seen by Jim, like, yeah, sometimes you have
to put on a whole different voice to be formal.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's just funy coming from Jim though, like Jim trying
to have Jim Jones having a Yeah, me having one
and Jim having one.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Is it's a little different. But it didn't make me
feel better after you called me out of like it.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Just talk the way you talk. Just talk the way you.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Talk, man. You don't have to put on this professional.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
And we're back at the top of the week. It's Rory.
They know who you are.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We are sponsored by the Boost.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
They're very familiar with your voice and who you are.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Rory.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's all good.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
We are back, specifically with the Parkway princess herself.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Haha.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know you wasn't really on your phone.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
This weekend, but but somebody was outside outside. She was
on the Parkway for the first time in her life.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
That was not see, that's why you in my business?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Wrong? Oh, I thought that's what you said.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
On No I said, baby's first Parkway. I was with
with your baby d No, but it was her first parkway.
I've been on a park with plenty of times. Oh okay,
I took somebody to the parkway for there for the
first time.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, he was kind of outside because you was he
was doing something for well, all right, let me start
with this. I'm going to continue to gripe about this.
I'm never sending Demeris anything Here we go again, Like
here we go. It was a running joke of no
one listening to my album when I sent it before this,

(01:39):
and that I did a record an incredible start with
Jozzi over this holiday weekend, sent it over to Demerius
because the ship is like, you know, a lesbian love
making record, and I felt like she's the audience, so
I sent I went direct to consumer of who would
listen to this record?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Test the product Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Answer Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
While we go out the studio at two am, she
was with strippers at three am. She could have replied,
And you don't think me and Johnie wanted to go
see strippers after the studio.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
He just made that up that one.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Because we were both thinking, like yo, we should go
try to do something we walked over the lap that
she was closed. We was like, damn, we're not doing
Starless like we were trying to find anything.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Meanwhile, Demeris had all the hoes with her.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
So I'm supposed to let you know every move I
make in New York. But you were running around.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You make every step you take. You were running around
watching you.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You were running around outside looking for things to do,
and never thought to call me, never thought to hit
me and say what you are.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
We because I thought you were now reformed in a
long term relationship and you were at.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Home bringing up my relationship has nothing to do with
my house.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Because usually, like I figured, you was home cooking, cleaning,
cap cap and speaking the way women like, the things
women in relationships should do.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Cap because I told y'all what I was doing when
we left the studio on Thursday. I told you exactly
what I was doing and when I was doing it.
I told you that I had an ad to shoot
with South House and Magic Shape, and that's that that
is what I would be doing on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I told you that you don't listen to me. See now,
who should be pressing to who? On Who's I thought?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I thought she was shooting ad content. I didn't know
she was gonna be with horse.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Watch your mouth.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was just great to say. That's like the third time.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, like watch the mouth as the compliment. Now you
don't because you want to call Penny. You wont call
Penny over.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wait what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, but the people, the women she was with might
not take that as a common and they're not not
the one she was with with. They were outside where
the horse were. Oh okay, yeah, no, not her crew. No,
I don't think that of her would say with the
hoes like her and her crew were with them.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh okay, but the crew is not the hole.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
And see this is why Jamarius cabin because Jamarics told
me in text after I was like, damn, I wish
I would have hit you. She was like, yeah, no,
it was outside. Who was outside the horse Who we
talk about when we say they was outside.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Beautiful women, Republicans, the LGBTQ community, that everybody liberals, It
was libored that we can everybody was outside, Conservatives outside.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So I sent America's record. She doesn't even reply to
me thirty nine in the morning while I'm at a
brand event this morning.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yesterday, I sent her the first version, well I'm the
final version of the off road video, which I also
sent to Page and he gave me a lot of
validation that I needed because sometimes people when you really
trust their opinion of stuff and they like it, it
makes you feel better and you know people are gonna
be honest with you. Because I feel like Peg will
be like, nah, I ain't it.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
That made me feel good. Demarus is somebody that I
respect her opinion of things.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Somebody called me asked me, you like, yo, you had
Jozzi on the show.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I said no, I said what it is? Oh, because
I see she was She's with Rory. I was, Oh,
that probably was in the studio work or something. Yeah.
He was like yeah, because Jossie was talking about you.
I was like, she was talking about me.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I was at the way again his feature. Damn.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I thought me and Johnsy was cool. She didn't remember y'all.
Remember when I brought up I said, yo, do die
because I've never seen it in the cask. You remember
that was one of the funniest segments that Johzy called
wind to that and her she didn't like that. She
was saying that I was lame and all of that,
like it was just a joke. But then we met
at BT weekend. I thought, you know, I finally met her.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
First of all, I feel like that's probably bad information
because I know it's person.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I know it's valid information. I know her person. This
person knows Jossy.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, maybe she had because Johnny joke, which is cool.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I didn't know she jokes, like listen to Joe want
to say it like, I was like, she was calling
me lame. You know, I don't give a funk about that.
I just thought it was funny because I'm like, damn,
finally met. We talked at BT weekend. You know what
I'm saying. She was she was pretty cool. I thought
she was. She was cool.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
So you're like, you're saying nobody kept the same energy
yet b T we Well, apparently we was weird.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Our energy was being checked.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I didn't know, you know, I had no idea people
walking around with the mom and the leak T weeked.
Apparently I didn't have a cold, didn't have a flu.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was nest.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh Man shout out to Johnny. I'm sure everything is fine.
Jo the coolest, most down but now called Josy and
asking has she ever seen in the cat.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm sure she has. I'm sure she hasn't.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I told you that my friend's dad is a funeral director,
and he said, no, we've definitely buried you know, gay women,
but the family doesn't you know, we've dressed them up
more effeminate, the masculine.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I'm like, do they like that? In the afterfe do
they like? Do they like that? And after like crazy, like,
I don't think it's.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Gonna be happy if the family like buried her in
a dress like you know what I'm saying, it's like
not bury me and my levis like I used to
usually weigh with my you know, my big T shirt
in my fitted cat exactly. But yes, it's all love
the jobs, he shout out to Josh.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
But yeah, with with all that said, I said, then
I sent Themarus the off road video it is now
we're recording this on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Jamarius is not listened or watched anything that I've said.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's not true. I came in here ready to give
you feedback and sing your praises, but you talked too
fucking much.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
This it's a podcast. You ever had a nigga talk
himself out of post. See that's you.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I probably done that before.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I know you have score playing paddle ball right now?

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I like this game. I mean, but here anytime I
feel like I talked myself out of pussy, I felt
okay about it, like I needed to get my point across,
good strike I needed.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
That was a good back end. Times you need a
point more than you need a nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's fine, that's what you chose. But yeah, very well,
it's very well done. I'm very proud of you. But
I couldn't even get that out because you came here attacking.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
And then on top of that, like when I get
my point across and realize that I talked myself out
the pussy, I can then spin it to show like
what you thought I was trying to beat? That's crazy.
I wasn't trying to fuck.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I'm about to go now.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You sent me a dick pic and said can't wait
till nothing You Yes, you were trying to fuck?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Wait you.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
What you're just saying? I'm total lot. I thought you
was playing pickleball just now, like I don't know what
just happened, like somebody, so I sent her the off
Roads video.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Okay, okay, I'm like, wait, what.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
We were talking hypothetically, not me literally him saying he
could spend it like he wasn't trying to fuck well,
I was so disgusted like he was about he.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Was about to go, I'm about to say, listen, this
whole episode is about to be some whole other thing.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay. I think it was the follow up message that
was a little fucking nuts. Snok was not okay, where's
the HR department? But women do that trying to inside
of you after? But women do that? Women do y'all
do that a lot?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
We do.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay, So I saw a clip where some some girl
posted Yo, she was talking to this guy, and after
she says something about uh money, like you know, some
bills or something like that, the guy just stopped texting
me disappeared. She was like, damn, it's whack because I
was just joking. You wasn't just joking, Like why y'all

(08:46):
like doing that? I was just joking because you wouldn't
have been just joking if he had said with yourself.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I don't say I was.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm never playing about no money. Ain't shit funny?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, but why do women do that? Like I was
just joking. He disappeared.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He goes to me just because I started talking about
bills and things like that.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now was I was just joking?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
But humans do that anyway. Whenever humans get backlash on
something they said, then it suddenly.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is just a joke.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, exactly, that's what that's when you when now women humans,
when you pussy is just where you standing on what
you say.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
There is not one woman on earth that would jokingly
be like, YO, give me some money.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
No, that's not It's nothing funny about that. It's nothing
funny about the first coming up and you look in
your account and you had seventy two.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Dollars and and respectfully, I don't really know if men
be joking about trying to fuck they don't.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
How do you joke about that? Though? How did like
what's the like, what's the what's the bus line? Yeah,
like what do you say where it's like and it
don't land? And you'd be like, nah, I was just joking.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Okay, speaking up, speaking of Joszy, Okay, we we we
shot some some content while we was recording as well
as the camera guy or whatever. And she, you know,
she was giving a passionate speech and she was like
and I'm a gay woman. I was like, wait, wait what,
I just set the session up because I was trying
to fuck. Yeah, I was joking.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was joking.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Clearly, that's just a joke.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think she's beautiful, but obviously.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I know she's not.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
That wouldn't even be a thing. He's not into men
what so ever. And obviously I wasn't doing that, but
I was joking about. Yeah, so you know what that's
I think it's just But that's a clear joke though, Yeah,
that's a clear jo. Now, if you made that joke
with Tyler the Creator, either one however you feel it,
which however you Tyler, I don't know what you want

(10:19):
to talk. None of my business.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't know what you want.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm just saying if you made that same joke with
a woman that wasn't masculine appearing.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Mm hmmm. Well, mainly the joke is actually more about
like producers setting up session because they're trying to fuck
the artist. That's more about what it was about. Like, yeah,
that's a real thing. I would make that joke with
Tyler the Creator. Yes, you would make that joke with him, Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
He's Why would you make that joke with somebody like
may Or may not be a gay man.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
He's discussed being bisexual.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
You may or may not be his type.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
So are you discussing this? I know he like Rededs.
He got a whole album cover that's just a ginger
that looks like me.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Okay, that's what's up. Listen as long as you I
want you to be happy, brother.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
But here's my thing.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
If I did that and he wasn't joking, then now
I'm in a predicament.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, because now you was teasing. You was playing pussy,
and you gotta get fucked. If you're gonna play pussy,
get fucked.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
At that point, I become the woman and be like, tal,
you need to give me money.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
For my paying the suffering.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I have a mortgage painment that is absent right now.
If you gotta pay a bill tyler or if you
had a pussy, how much you think it'd be worth? Hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
The hun's funny because you're really trying to calculate.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I'm just like, all right, in this type of sator,
what have I done with the pussy?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
And women need to start pricing they pussy based on
high smell. We don't never talk about that.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Okay, I'm kind of thought that one without Wait, they're
putting on price on smelly puss, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Put a price on used cars. And you're like, fam,
this car is not worth this. You want to you
want to negotiate, We can do that. Like you set
in the baseline at five k. This is not a
five thousand.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
You know those used car places that that change the mileage,
they know how to change the mileage like that.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
So it's like you ain't premium. This ain't a premium
package right here? Like why are you charging premium for this?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
And this is and you know that go to Honda's
Last Forever American make cars are such a good car
they last forever.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Nah, I don't want no call that last forever. Give
me what that's gonna break.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Down after a few years. All right, what is my
pussy done?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I take it back? I take it back. We were
up the rail because is it premium? Like, like, do
I got good pussy?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Is your digs that? It depends you ask how I
was feeling that day. There's a sliding scale, like it.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Depends on how much I like you?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Like, how what did you bring on?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
God, y'all love that. Y'all like that one, right, y'all
love to use that one. It depends on how comfortable
I am like to be.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Asked naked first date, Like he be comfortable.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Stupid fire.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
That's how we came in the world that way, Like, yeah,
you be comfortable. I mean, Weezy told my business on
whatever podcast we did horrible together. Actually that was the
best explanation. Wheezy is like, I have two friends that
Roy has slept with. One said it was the worst
experience she's ever had. One said it was the best
ship she ever had. And I said that sounds my
right for me, which one most likely lyon.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't care what no girls say. I'm not the
worst experience you ever had. Well, she was just not well,
I know that's just not possible.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
The worst there's there. I don't think the worst. I'm
not the worst. Saying you the worst is crazy, that's
kind of she said the best.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
No, Okay, yeah, I've got I've never believed I'm that guy.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm definitely not the worst cut the ship. I'm definitely
not the worst guy.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I know. I've never believed I was the best, and
I've never believed with the worst the worst. I knew
why she said it because she's still mad at me
to this day.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, but I also don't.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But I also don't think like I knocked it out
her saying it wasn't great objectively I could.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Be cool with.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
But I know she said it was the worst because
she dislikes me.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So maybe she dislikes you because it was the worst.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
No, it was just a long story.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Who's the long story? If we had a podcast where
we'd like a long form content place, we.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Can do it. But like, you know, we you know,
we got so much to talk about, you know, yeah enough,
there's so much to talk about that we can't get
into that. Really, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Maybe I'm Patreon and if you like, if you came, like,
was it that bad?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, let them tell you now because women also make
a woman come. But like there's plan when some of
them say they come, but some of them say that
they come easy. They give you that one too, like
this because you made me come. To mean, it's I
love those unicorns, like y'all come. Someone say I'm like, okay,
so it wasn't me. That's what they tell you. It
wasn't women to take that card out your hand, no

(14:51):
matter what it wasn't you.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I just like at this age, I prefer the women
that like know how to make themselves come Like they
know they have to write a certain way, and they'll
they'll agitate the clip enough to not think.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Agitate the clip, agitate.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
This, agitate the c This is a this is a
regular episode.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Labor day just passed me back. It's a holiday weekend. Yes,
everybody getting back into the flow. Kids just back at school,
you know, the woman playing with that clit a little
more at the in the morning. Now empty house. They've
been waiting for this. They've been waiting for this.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Let's get back to it, get back to self care,
self love.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, mall, did you.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do anything over the weekend, the deliberate day weekend?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, I didn't do nothing like important we're talking about.
Just saw some friends family went to a cookout? That
was it? Basic ship?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
What did you eat at the cookout? Did eat vegan food?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I had? It was like rice and pee salad, you know,
ship like that, Like that's what I was on.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No know, like still no meats, nothing like that. A
lot of sides, good sides. That's good.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I went to I went to our guy Punch, not
TD Punch, Punch, DJ Punch.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I would never assume that you went anywhere with TD
Punch really no.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I mean we've hung out before, pre pre beef. Okay,
you see how that changes everything?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Literally changed everything.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I don't think we've spoken.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, I bet you have it.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I bet you.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I bet you.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I went to a punch at his you know,
he has his legendary backyard barbecue pool parties, and it
would say it was birthday over the weekend. So I
went down there and.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I see the hype.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah it was cool. I see the hype.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I mean I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I just watched.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, the good energy, good energy, great energy.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, and they was out there. I was the temperature
of the water, the pool. It was good.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Nobody was even looking at that pool. Okay, yeah, it
was just like a lot of just it was like
fifteen porn stars there. Why you ain't call me?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Why you ain't called me? Because she was exactly talking
about he was doing average.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Let me not do that because I don't want people
to think that we shoulting on the marriage. I was
not just sitting on No, No, I'm just saying, you know,
people would take it like that, like they're making jokes
about the damaras congratu them doing your ass and you
know that bad Get that bag, girl, get that bag.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
You know I fully support.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Do you feel like I was making this like there?
I apologize. No.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I was wondering why I'm dead ass, why you ain't
calling me, why you ain't called me?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Why I got to call you.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
When I allow it was a last minute thing. And
I also did he lives far like far far you
have a car. I just didn't think he was going
to make that trip another pickaball match. Yes, you could
have called me. You called me for everything the fuck
else themars with the back all right, if you still
lived in Jersey, I would have called you.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I was not waiting.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Rory just threw out a bounce.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Hear me out once I decided.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Once I found out that I was going to be
baby free for the afternoon and evening, which was very
very very last minute, I thought I had a marm
for the whole weekend. Once I found that out, I
was like, all right, bet it's two o'clock. This is
about like a two hour drive waiting on a holiday
weekend for Jameris to get from Brooklyn to Jersey City.
It would have been pointless to go if she still

(18:05):
lived in Jersey. I would have just scooped her because
that would have been like my road dog with what
the type of situation those pool parties are. So it
was really a Brooklyn Jersey thing. That's that's all it
really was. But you know, I saw PEG's ex brother
in law, Like, I just saw a lot of a
lot of a lot of friends and family. I hadn't
seen in a minute he's ex brother in law. Okay,

(18:28):
would he reminded me?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I even forgot.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
He was like okay.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I was like great, great, he's doing great. And I
was like, oh shit, I forgot about all that.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
So yeah, No, it was a fun, fun weekend and
I played the corner. I watched I watched the madness happen.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So niggas always say they played the corner and forgotten
to mention that it was a bad bitch also.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
In the corner with them, y'all do the same thing.
Who me, I'm not saying you and I'm saying women.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah no, we don't say ship.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
No, we were chilling.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
It was lit, had a long drive home. It was
lit us playing the corner. The corner be the middle
of the party with no shirt on. All right, that
was the corner I got you.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
My shirt was on.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Okay, you have a good sweet of sure, you have
a good shirt on. Merchant he is now wearing the karma.
Karma released of the prosperity Is it the prosperity pack?
The prosperity pack? Failable feeling. Your carma is beautiful today, Rory,
you look great, good shades.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know what I'm saying. You look like you had
a good time this weekend. Yeah. No, my eyes as fucked.
I see Dame is now just recording with the eye
patch and glasses. I feel like I could do the
same thing. Well, my eyes can't take the ship anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Surgery.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You didn't have surgery. You just didn't get no sleep.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
No, I got I got sleep, bless night, went to
a birthday dinner, I went right home.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I got sleep.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I just I really need to go to the doctor
for adult allergies. Like they are kicking my I asked
at thirty five that I've never had like I walk
outside and tears come out of my eyes. Something outside
I'm allergic to and when I get in the lights,
it gets fucking worse, like it could be drys. You
start putt drops in your eyes? That's all yeah, no,
but I can't do that. What vizine, I don't know.

(20:16):
That's like one thing I eye drops. I've never been
able to do.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
What do you mean you can't do it?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I physically cannot do it. You can't put drops in
your eyes as a grown man? Is it?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Like you're scared of the drop?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Like you would have to hold my eyelids open, Like
it would have to be a force, like you know
when they get people the feeding tubes of like when
they're on hunger strikes.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like that's what you would have.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
You take a show? Do you close you eyes in
your show?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's not the same as vizine?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
What do you.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Watch?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like what you wash it?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I don't wash my eyeballs, but like when I'm washing
my foot, you wash your face, you close eyes and
under the stream, not not really like my eye. I
don't close my eyes like.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
When you put so when you yo? What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
When you foliate you keep your eyes open when you no?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
No, no, because I'm clean and washing my eyes as
well like you know the outside of my eye live.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Saying because like you're closed.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
But I'm just saying, like when I'm in the shower
standing under like the shower head and the water's like
hitting my head and my face not the same as
not shut closed neither. I'm not looking up at the
fucking shower head and like just do what you want
to me, do what you want to me, Like hey,
yeah with me, shower head, Like no, I'm not doing that.

(21:28):
Like I'm just saying, like I'm not my eyes are
not shut either, though black people were not shutting their
eyes in the shower. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
What if some niggas run up in the cree shower.
I know, you're you're you're you you're eye. I'm from
a dog place in the Bronx. Happens you live like
way the fuck up in Westchester.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, I don't know these niggas still there.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
That's why I laughed. The malls Republican because Republicans don't
think black trauma exists.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
This is a clear example of black trauma. Like black
trauma is real.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Absolutely, it's real. Y'all better wake up.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
This is real.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
He's trying to put vising in his eye yeah, I
just need some vozine, man, that's all. You'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Because when I initially went to the eye doctor to uh,
you know, you have to like RENEWU registrations and license
and all that shit. I was like due up for
like twenty years to go to the eye doctor for that.
And they were like, oh, yeah, your eyes like are
super dry. And I was like, I don't. I can't
do the eye drops. They gave me these eye vitamins.
They don't work like I need to.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I have to be allergic to take that.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
You take the vitamins, then it's supposed to help your eyes. Yeah,
and it's it's done nothing. You just need some drops, man,
you just got drys that's all. I just think I'm
allergic to the earth.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh I mean you're whites. That's that. I mean that
is a real thing.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
So but anyways, how was the parkway.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, we got on these tangents. The parkway was cool.
Parkway is fine. It's Labor Day.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was a lot of people out there, a little overstimulating.
And I planned on being sober because I have been
drunk all weekend, planned on being sober. I could not
do the parkway sober I grabbed a cracker immediately. I
was like, I can't do this, but it was cool.
I only ran once, but it turned out it was
just a dog we were running from.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And yeah, I mean during the parade is it's always
the night before, that's the violence. Parade is never violent sometimes.
How's How's why Cliff looked he was there? Hey mean
he's the mayor.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh yeah, I didn't. I didn't see the whole parade.
I got there like five six o'clock. Yeah, don't understand.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I had a very long five six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes, the parade is over.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
It was still going. No, people are still outside in
Brooklyn after five.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, it was still floats. It was still folks. I
was still catching not the official floats.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's just like the band, like the bands that just
keep going.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, yeah what a Haitian bands were kept going like
they were but they were.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
On a float. So but yeah, like they just live
up the block.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
That's went around the library, right, that's the niggas that
live up the block. They were to be out there.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, we we missed it. I child, I'm not built
to be out. Alex had me at a club.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I was at a club.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
That I had.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I was at another club and then I went fucked around,
went at a party, went to a party, caught a
contact high before my brand event.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Like they were smoking in a place and all the
windows and doors were closed, like it was an indoor party.
Was really hot in there. But I thought I was drunk.
But I'm like, I only had two drinks. Why do
I feel so loopy? No, I was high as fuck
and I had to go to the brand event. Like
I was trying to soaper up. I took a cold shower.
I was drinking ginger tea because I'm like, I don't
want these people to meet me, and I'm high when
I didn't smoke like I'm high on an accident.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
It was it was a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, they'll never be calling you back. It's okay. You
walk into smelling like an ashtray.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
No. I went home and showered and did all of
that stuff. Like I smelled good. It was just like
my eyes were like so low.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Something got eye problems like me, you can't do our drops. No.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
But yeah, Rory's working on his album mall Is you know,
eat working eating sides and labor sides that Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I'm working on my album hereo who just me? Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
No features, not yet, but it's a few people that
owe me some favors like who I can't you know,
I don't want to put that energy out there, but
my alms coming twenty twenty six six.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, you think it's gonna like hit?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like do I think it's gonna hit?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like Rory's did well?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Roy's album did great? You kidding me?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Look at the things changed, but we said.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
John didn't do great before you? Oh okay, gious that.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
My best friend that I'm staring at across the table.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Are we ever really best friends anymore?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Do you.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are we even really best friend?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
First of all, I felt like we were at the
space where we don't need to speak every day and
it was always going to be the same, because that's
how deep our friendship.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Is is always think birthday dinner come around?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Oh good backhand to marriage.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I paid for your last six birthday dinners. Good over hand?
You just made that. I'm just gonna get on a
camera and lie. But anyway, it's podcasting, yo.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
This weekend, a lot of interviews came out, a lot
of phone calls, which I want to talk.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
About first the game.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
A lot of interviews and phone calls came out of
interviews and came out Listen, man, you know I need
to start really talking about like my inner thoughts more.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay. You know how you have in the.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Thoughts about things, and you'd be like, and then when
shit happens, you be like, I should have said this
two years ago. You never had those moments where shit happens.
You be like, I knew this was gonna happen two
years ago. Well in particular with the whole thug situation
when he essentially you know, came home and won his trial.
Because that was a win he was. I think he

(26:25):
was facing life, if I'm correct, he was. It was like,
oh shit, shout Lebron. Still you know what I mean.
It was able to go in there, Tom sort and
make some things happen time serve. He obviously has restrictions
can't go here, can't go there. But something about that
never sat right with me. I was like, this doesn't
I don't think this is the end of this. And
lo and behold, now we have these recorded conversations being

(26:51):
I don't we don't want to say leaked. It's not
an album. It's not an album. These conversations are being
put out, yes, And I always felt like the government
was gonna find a way, oh shit, to say, Okay,
he won, he won the he won the battle, but

(27:11):
we're gonna win the war. We're gonna do it whatever
we can to completely annihilate his public facing character, his
public facing status.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And I believe that this is exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
This is an attack on dismantling Thug's character, dismantling what
everything that Thug stands for. This is not by accident,
This is not a leak. This is a planned thing
that I feel like the government knew, they know exactly
what they're doing, and they had this plan all along.
When they want you, they're gonna get you. We may

(27:46):
not have you in prison, we may not have you
behind bars, but we're gonna get you. And I think
that this is exactly what is happening here. I think
that they are purposely putting these audio recordings out because
if anybody has anybody incarcerated, the first thing you hear
when you answer that phone is this call is being recorded,

(28:07):
So you know that this is being recorded.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's not who keeps the recording.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
You don't know, we can guess, Oh, the government has it,
the jail system, the correctional facility has it. So now
these recordings that they have, if you've ever called from
a jail and talked to somebody, anything you spoke about
is recorded and saved somewhere. So now what the government
is essentially doing is saying, Okay, he's not in prison,

(28:32):
let's do whatever we can do to completely disrupt his image,
completely dismantle his image. And that's exactly what they're trying
to do with these recordings.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Okay, but also cool with the phone calls, but there's
also interrogation stuff there. So like you know when people
in reality TV complain like I was edited this way,
and then the reply is always like, well you can't
edit what you don't do. Yeah, cool, government could be
behind anything, but what Doug stands for, I don't care

(29:06):
that they leaked it. It happened, like yeah, I'm not
saying I'm not saying like it's not like if it
was a I'd be like, all right, that's some some real,
real I'm not saying that none of this didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It clearly happened. These conversations clearly happen. What I'm saying
is when people say all these things are it's they're
leaking the conversations. Stop saying these conversations are leaking. But
we see conversations are being put out by the government,
by the fuck you Brian the scientist and Doug.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
As far as that leaked conversation, and we could probably
safely assume that wasn't the government. That was probably somebody
that worked at the jail that had it and sold
it like that happens a lot too. Ship how we
saw it, Uh Solange trying to whoop jay Z's ass
was because the security people sold the ship. Like I do,
think there's an element there. And we also know because

(29:59):
he where was he locked up? Was that a federal case?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now that was with this thing?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
That was No, it was state.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, so it was state. So he was locked up
in the greater Atlanta area.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
We know CEOs come from the same exact hoods that
the people that are locked up in. I could see
a world where all this CEO took this ship and
sold it to somebody or or knew someone that knew
gun and was like, yo, he's saying all this shit
about you. I got all this like, I can see that.
The interrogation one though, to me is government. It's not
that jail phone calls any No, it's not tell them

(30:33):
ships all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
No, they do not. It's not that easy to get
those recordings. Those recordings are not just on a recorder
right here in the office where we having lunch at. No,
I know that's not where those recordings located. Those recordings
are somewhere where somebody higher up on the chain that
works for the correctional facility, that works for the state,
they have, they have those recordings.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's not just somebody also lower that monitor those calls
that then have to flag something if criminal activity is
being discussed for the higher ups to take care of.
If you don't think somebody could sit in that fucking
office with their iPhone and play that recording and just
like this and get that exact quality of what they
have on those I do think.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I don't think it's that easy. Okay, No, your lawyers
can absolutely obtain your recordings.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, he says gunners lawyers.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh, I don't think that. I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
But again, I don't want to act like a Twitter
lawyer because I don't know can once you plee out,
why would the lawyer have access to They weren't even
really co defendants after the police, so how would they
have access to those calls?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, I don't think Gunner's lawyers did. Thugs lawyers I
think can get those, you know. But that's again it
lets you know when you make a call, this call
is being recorded, of course, so it's just certain things
that you just don't need to be speaking about on
you know, on those calls on those phones, because again
you do know that it's being recorded.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
But I mean to me, the calls, whether it be
with you know, twenty one, with other people, like respectfully,
that was more like gossipy I'm bored in jail calls.
To me, the main leak was the interrogation, the two
interrogation ones, like that's different. That's not a jail phone call.
That's an interrogation. Like to me, that's where this ship

(32:28):
is nuts. And I don't know at this point, someone
just w the street rules because I don't know anymore
they are no streets. I'm just I'm not called. I'm
a civilian on my calle. Any want a rat, that's
not I just want to know at this point one
are the updated rules. Listen, I'm very confused.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
People need to understand this, and you know, it just
is what it is. The streets and all of the
rules of cold that shit is only upheld by a
very select few. Everybody's not a rat, everybody's not a snitch.
But there are rats and now snitch. You should go
through every era from the biggest gangster is you show
me who the biggest gangster was. Somewhere in their story

(33:04):
I could point out somebody that rad it. That's a
part of the Snitching is a part of the streets,
and people just need to understand that that's a part
of it. You know, when you play Mario, it's the
little goomers that run around.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's part of the game. You can't play Mario World
and not get mushrooms, like that's part that's in the game.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
You cannot be in the streets and not think that
people are not cooperating and not snitching.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
That is a part of the street rules.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
There are snitches, which is why when somebody doesn't snitch
and doesn't cooperate, they should be saluted to the highest
degree because we know exactly how many of these people
are cooperating. So when you see somebody take their time
and take their punishment and stand up to it and
don't fold and do that, those are the people you salute.
Because again, for one person that's gonna hold it down,

(33:54):
there's one hundred thousand that's gonna cooperate. But people that
hold it down and take their sentences, that is very rid.
So when people get so surprised when they find out
that people cooperated or gave a statement, is that.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I look at it, like, what are we surprised about?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's a part of the game from look at every era,
your favorite documentaries, from your favorite gangsters and street figures.
Go through all of the documentaries, and I guarantee you
in every documentary there is somebody that cooperated and.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Took the whole thing that some of your favorites did it.
And they throw parties for these niggas in no condishit.
When they come home, I'm like, you know that nigga
read it right? The one thing that they love us
say he ain't right on me, He ain't right on me?
He will then, Yeah, But y'all.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Don't understand why I don't like being around this type
of shit and these gods, because I look at it
and I'm like, Yo, First of all, I know y'all
don't even like each other, number one, because I've heard
what y'all both said about each other to me. So
then when I see y'all doing parties and events and
hostings and vacations, I'll be sitting back looking like maybe
I'm the eyeball. You know what I'm saying, And I'm

(34:57):
cool with that maybe, but I'm just like something that
ain't right with what's going on out here, and it
hasn't been right forever.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
But it takes.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
It takes years of being around certain things and seeing
certain things to understand like, oh, this is not for me.
And that's one reason why it was easy for me
to leave that street shit alone, because I know how
I'm going. I know that whatever I do, I'm taking
that on the chin. If I get caught up out
here and I got to go to prison, I'm taking
out everybody not doing that. So while even put myself

(35:26):
in a situation where I'm the only one that's gonna
hold it down, I'm not doing it. I'm asking to
lose at that point. I'm asking to be the person
with the short end of the stick because I know
if they come and say you're you're facing fifteen, give
me my fifteen. I see y'all in a minute. That's
how I'm designed. Everybody in design like that. Niggas said
fifteen years they put a beat on nigga, Ill tell

(35:47):
you they're gonna start telling no niggas.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
That ain't even a part of the situation. And it's cool.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Come home concert sold out, Mert sold out, saying views
going crazy on YouTube. The support is still there and
they just put some good dudes behind bars. So when
you look at that, you're like, all, so what am
I doing? Because I'm never gonna do that. And if
that's what you got to do to be accepted out here,
then I'd rather just not be a part of it.

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Speaker 4 (37:03):
So, with all that said, where do you think this
leaves Thug and his perception in his career.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's tough. It's gonna be very tough. But then again,
I don't know Gunna putting out great music. Barclay's Damarage crying, Yeah,
like I know.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So you can't even say I think that.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
I think Thug gonna put out a classic album and
sell out a whole tour. If you if we if
we're going based on what we see already, I don't
think this does.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I don't think that this hurts Thug at all. Prove
me wrong. I'm willing to be proven wrong, though, well,
but I don't think that it does.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Do you think Okay. So I don't think the snitching is.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Because nobody cares. I think that's the point.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I understand, nobody gives a.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think they're starting to be a likability issue. A
likability issue. Gunna would never become unlikable people even when
Gunna was when they locked when they originally locked Gunna up.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Before he he did become a likable to some when
he said yes, oh yeah to some.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yes, but what I'm saying, what I'm saying is personality wise,
even when Gunnar was locked up, there were people advocating
for him, like, hey, he doesn't deserve to be in
there because as far as the criminal aspect of this,
he's not involved. Gunna never really became unlikable other than
the snitching thing as.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Far as with Thug. But that's supposed to be enough.
It is supposed to be enough. But me and missing
my point that.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
There's nothing worse than that other than okay, but also well,
I don't think anyone perceived, to Jamarus' point that Gunna
was like that, Like Gunna never really portrayed himself like
that the way.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Music.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yes, of course, but it's.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
A little y'all talking about everybody raps about being Yeah, yeah,
I'm not about Can we talk about the perception of
what Thug like outside his whole career, Outside of Thug
making incredible music, it wasn't even whispers.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
The perception to fans was like, now Thug is like
really like that like Gunna. No one has thought that,
and I mean that respectfully, like cool, he's gang a
phillyd whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
But that's a rap thing. Nobody was running rounds saying
like Gunner was causing in the city of Atlanta. That's
the part.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
That's the part I don't want. Nobody was get to
rap about it, you get to you get to walk
like it, you get to talk like it, you get
to do all of that, and then when the truth
come out, it's nah, but we never really you know
what I'm saying, Nobody thought he was really like.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
But how he get to talk and walk like that
and be affiliated with that and rep that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
But then when it comes to stand having to stand
behind that, we're not surprised that he didn't.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I don't think Gunnar's music has like, yes, of course
he's rapped about certain violence stuff, but that he's been Yeah,
he's not listen, never done lyrics, but we can ask.
I'm sure you can asks chat GBT.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I'm willing to bet everything that on one of Gunner's verses,
he definitely said he would never snitch on the guys.
I'm willing to bet that. Oh sure, I'm willing to
bet has said that at some point, intellege my wraps
and I'm going straight. Yeah, so we can't. But we
can't do that and then be with the guys that's
really doing that. And then when it comes time to
really stand behind that, you said what you are not

(40:06):
what I ain't doing.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
You and I are both tax paying civilians, but you
are not about to just go tell on all your
friends like that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I know you you you are not going to do that.
The marriage is a rat man, the.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Rat jail time I'm doing to jail for some ship
I ain't do.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, that's why I used to tell when I used
to date drug dealers, don't do no crimes with me
in the car. If they pull us over and say
who gun is this, I'm looking at them niggas and say,
you know, damn the fuck, well, it's not mine.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
No, that's what they're supposed to. That's that's on them.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
If it's not you, they supposed to take you. I
have that goes without saying like that.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Only only DMX kept Keisha in jail, like in real
life he would, he would have got that girl out
of jail.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Going to jail for nobody. I don't do no crimes.
You bugging out And if you niggas go to jail
for avoiding y'all taxes and the cops start asking me questions,
guess what I'm say. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
But if you don't know, I don't know, he said, Well,
you wouldn't belying.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
You don't know nothing about my taxes, don't You wouldn't
be lying in that case.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
You wouldn't be lying.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
But you can't get up there and be like, yeah nah,
they you know they be evading taxes.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
You can't get up there and do that either, though.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
But if they asked me and I know I'm not
lying to the cops, I'm I'm not into not saying
you just don't you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
But that's but.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Because they was years if niggas got me in a
new Rory and Marico and they saying eight years.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
But if it comes down to they know that you
don't have. They know that you don't have nothing. You
have no knowledge of it.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But that's how I feel like the gunning situation went.
What you need to understand is it don't fucking because
I have.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I grew up in Syracuse and we have a lot
of gang violence, and at least three of our gangs
have been hit with rico.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Charges because it's no affordable housing. Probably that's what the
May of Chicago with them niggas killing each other because
it's no afford to.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's not bad. Some of them got driving My bad,
Go ahead, baby.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So there are people who get caught up in ricos
who have done no crimes. I know niggas who got
caught up in ricos and did jail time over rap
lyrics but have done no crimes.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
But they're affiliated with a gang. That is a real thing.
When they come to.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Sweep your ass up in a rico, it don't matter
if you ain't hold no gun, or you wasn't in
a car with no gun or nothing. Okay, So you
can't sit up here and say, well, they're coming to him,
and they know he didn't really do nothing, They're not
really gonna lock him up.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yes, the fuck, they will really lock his ass. He's
part of the gang.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Okay, So I'm part of the US army and I
go to Afghanistan right now. You think they gonna see
me in my uniform like nah, but he never killed
none of al Qaeda. They see me, they smoking me too.
I'm part of the gang. That's how we go. When
you put that suit on, when you rep that set,
that means you rep everything that comes with that.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
That's what that's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
So if that's not you, cool, but don't rep it though,
And that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
You want to wrap something while it's cool, while it's safe,
but then when they get real and you standing in front.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Of that judge, Oh yeah, Nah, I don't got nothing
to do with that.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
You don't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
But that's how we kept them niggas off your ass.
When you was out here and the niggas wanted to
jump you and rob you, that was the homies. That
that that front line that he held you down.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, but that was you was out of love. You
was making money off out of love you was.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Doing Yeah, I love you.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I'm not gonna let these niggas put hands on you.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Take this, Jill, niggas put hands on me, because you're
protecting your investment.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
This is not just out of love.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
This is not just I mean, if you my homeboy
and you part of the gang, yeah, I'm not gonna
let nothing happen to you.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Okay, well I don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
But if something gr had it happened to you and
I bust my gun, you didn't shoot. But if they
come and swoop the whole block, what you're gonna be like, Nah,
that was him?

Speaker 4 (43:54):
What? But then again after with the yelf shit like
That's why I think it was a little fucked up
the position Gunner was in because they wise really wasn't
a gang was a record label.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Not according to Gunner.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I know, with the plea, you have to say that
so I can say anything. I hear your You take
a plea, you have to that's the point of taking
a plea. Have to say what you're guilty of. I'm
saying that technically they were from different Gunnar claim to
be affiliated with crips like they it wasn't gang ship.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
He signed to a record label.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Like, I get that if I have a midlife crisis
at thirty five and go fucking come home and be
hat like and then they all get sweep up in Rico.
I would be snitching if I said something I decided
to be part of y'all fucking gang, if I.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Signed to a record label. No, I ain't part of
a fucking gang.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Nah, that's that's not that's not how that went. You
can't do that.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You can't do that.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Well, first of all, that's where this ship is. That's
where this shit is old. And you cannot do that
because I think rest in peace. IRV Gotti shout out
to Chris, gotta be out on the pod. Both of them,
tax paying civilians. They were just trying to sweep prem
up in some bullshit and then hit them with a
FED charge for laundering money.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
They didn't say a word.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
They went to court and beat the ship because it
was of course, Chris and IRV were not laundering money
for Supreme. They were just using that to try to
get them to talk so it could jam Supreme up.
M hm. That's what they did with this gunnership. They
knew they did that to try to get anything. What's
the key thing that pa Erv didn't do.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
They were the most stand up people ever and that
and they didn't do and they didn't do what They
didn't talk at all.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
They went to trial and they beat it exactly. But
I'm saying Gunna at that point was in a similar
situation and took a plea deal that didn't affect not
a single person, And you saying that about Thug.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Doug took a plee. Doug is on interrogation.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
The lines are so blurred with this whole y cl
case that I can't look at Gunna and look at
Thug and be like, oh, it's a difference here.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
And this is why I'm I thought you were saying
with God, I didn't say that. I said something out
just as.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
The conversation that I'm trying to have, because I feel
like we went off on a tangent. At the end
of the day, all of us are tax paying civilians.
We don't understand exactly what's going on with these people case.
We don't fucking know. Bringing back to the likability issue
that I think that Thug might be facing now as
far as mainstream media, the culture whatever, not street shit,

(46:23):
not nothing to have to go with his case, but
the things that happened, the things that he might have
tweeted while he was in jail, the things that he's
tweeted or said when he was out of jail. Gunna's
reputation suffered a little, but did not suffer enough to
affect his career. Thug has seemingly been picking on Gunna
since he got out. He's been saying things about ratting

(46:45):
he's been and now these leaked phone calls are coming out.
He's saying things about Kendrick. He's on the phone with
twenty one talking. I think that as far as his career,
the conversation that we can have, as far as where
he goes from here or if he can be as
successful as gonna post a lock up is do people
still like young Thug?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
And thank you for getting us back on track, because
that was That was the point too, of saying Gunna
was not viewed that way because it didn't really affect
de plete didn't affect it because that's not how the
public viewed him.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
And he was able to continue on to everything.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Demara said, Thug has been viewed a certain way through
this whole trial, and now it looks a little different
than how we viewed him through the entire thing.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
So yes, likability in that regard is there.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
That shit ain't gonna affect him at all. I also,
I don't think anyone cares about sententions, so be proven wrong,
though I'm open to being proven wrong.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think I think Thug had a likability issue a
little bit before this whole snitching allegation came about.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Oh he got this, put out good music, that's all
he gotta do.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
I no, I think Thug's likability was at its highest
after the you know, after he beat the case. He
just you know, and again he was in jail. I'm
not saying you gotta hit the round running and put
out mad music right away, but.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
His lickability was at its its peak.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
This, I think has just shifted everything because you don't
appear to be the person that we thought you were
when we were championing you when you beat the case.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
None of this matters, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
People don't care about.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
They don't give a fuck. You put out good music,
it's all the matters. I go back to UH when
six nine came out, Pull up, pull up the old Pasha.
When I was trying to explain to y'all saw these
kids don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Every arguing me down, I was arguing you, right, you
think these you think the people that were fans of six'
nine give a single fuck about that entire.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Shit but that's The but that's the problem, though and
that's the problem with with our, culture with black. Culture
that's one of the big problems with black. Culture it's
ship like, that is that we we act like these
things matter until we put in a position for it
to for, it for us to stand behind it, mattering
and then when we, don't it's, like ma a't nobody
care about?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
THAT i, mean but with, entertainment can you put that
on a fan who defending If i'm JUST i only
want to use thug because AGAIN i don't really know
everything that is going. On and if he is, this
if he's, that Who's if you're a fan of an
artist and somebody that artist then stitches, like that's not that.

(49:23):
Person i'm a fan because they entertained. Me i'm not
here For i'm not in your your friends. Circle OR
i can look at this ship and think it's. Wrong
but a young kid that's just a fan of an,
artist like he's just a. Fan he doesn't even know
about criminal shit that that type of a fan or.
Not you know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
SAYING i think the fans of six' nine give a
fuck about that for the.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Most, Part, no yeah those some people that supported six
nine that never supported. HIM again i was one of
those people.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
FOR saying i was one of those People that and
it was less it was less about. This iss it
was more about what he did when he got out
with the Like the, nipsey MURAL like i just.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Super.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Goofy yeah so it depounds on who. You ask which
fans are you? Speaking to which fans are you asking
for the, Most, part no most fans don't give. A
fuck but you have some people that look at, it,
like man. THAT'S crazy i can never. Support that WHY
because i have friends and family that were directly affected
by people snitching, on them that are directly incarcerated because

(50:21):
somebody snitched. On them, so yes, for me as a
fan of some of, these people it's a little Different
because i've seen what. That does i've seen what snitching does.
To people i've seen the position that puts. People in,
so yeah, to me people, Do, THAT nah i can't fuck.
With that i'll never support that because again that's something
that directly affected, my family with people being incarcerated and

(50:43):
away from us because. Somebody snitched, SO yeah i don't
take that.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Lightly and i'm fair and agree.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
With you and, TO cluse i just think, the majority
because hip hop has become the biggest genre in, THE
world a majority of fans that are driving to work,
every morning they, got, kids wives they, Pay taxes they
don't care the. Music, good yeah people don't then then
it's that's all. They can people don't care like that's all.
People be it doesn't affect that they have their own

(51:10):
shit going on in their lives that they're.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
FOCUSED on i just want to.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Be entertained that's really where.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
People gonna have all these things pieces out and all
these things to. Be, upset yeah people don't give. A
fuck they. Don't CARE like, i said we watched It
with gonna no. People People probably the funny shit is
it seems more people supported them. After that that's what's
funny about The whole. Gunner shit it seems like he
had more support coming out of. That, SITUATION well i.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Think that's because more visibility and it's. Free advertising not.
All good not all advertising is, YOU know, i mean
there's no.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Such thing as.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Bad press basically like that's that was an amazing, not
amazing but that was a big platform that he got because.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Of, that yeah everyone couldn't wait to Hear, from gunna
and the music ended up, being great so, everyone's, like
oh this. IS cool i just tell people just.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Very simple you can't be surprised about what people would
do for their freedom when you see what they do.
For money it's. That simple you watch your people will do,
for money that's gonna tell you everything they would do for.
Their freedom so we got to stop being surprised when
things like, this happen because it'd be right there in
front of. Your face just look at the moves, they
make look at the things. They do you think that

(52:15):
of somebody telling them that you're about to do twenty,
five years you think they're gonna just, be, like all
show me. My bed.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It don't go, like that not even in the movies.
Do it they don't even put that in.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
The movies that don't go. Like that that don't go.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Like.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
That Nah even denzel didn't wear glasses throughout The entire
american gangster shit when he was. Facing life he put on. Reading,
glasses yeah he started drawing up place He, start yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Dumb taxo niggas ain't trying to be behind that wall for. Twenty.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Years bro that ain't for, everybody now salute to. The
front it's. For nobody salute to the.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Ones now because there Are SOME like i said the
time one of my best friends took sixteen could have
came home and been with his dying mother in last
days if he would have, just cooperated and he. Did
not so you're talking to somebody that first hand had
seen people take fifteen years sixteen years on the chin
and keep. It, moving, so yes those, people exist and

(53:17):
salute to them the highest salute. To them but we're
not gonna act like the ones that cooperate don't. Exist
either and, For me i'm definitely not surprised when none
of these niggas caught when don't take that shit on
the chin and keep. It moving i'm more surprised when
they when. They do, somebody snitch that ain't surprised. To
me i'm surprised when they. Don't snitch that surprises, Me,

(53:37):
now like, oh shit he, kept it really took it
all the. Way, salute yeah but when they, snitch it, it's,
like oh this is another one to add to. The
list but the bottom line is nobody gives. A.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Fuck, yeah well and there are still plenty of people
that do actually still hold it.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Down absolutely why do you how you feel about about
the kind of attacking, not attacking but his Words on
kendrick not doing features with rappers or.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Certain, rappers again a lot of those calls to me
were just bored, in jail, just TALKING like i know
that was like the, big bombshell and of Course with
Drake and kendrick and all that type.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Of STUFF but i.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Think He just you've had friends jails that they just
want to talk on, the phone like they just want
to talk because, they're BORED and i, get IT and i,
just say they just say shit like Obviously it's. Kendrick's
name so that was like the one that people wanted to.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Really, LIVE yeah i just. Don't know he didn't say
nothing near that was surprising, To me like, he's like
why you don't want to do? A feature, like yeah
like why wouldn't you want to do a Feature? With
doug like and then now they go back to the
record that was. PART way I guess kendrick is talking
about thug asking for. A feature, I mean i don't, get,
it man it is what. It is, but again a
lot of that is just, YOU know i call it,

(54:52):
jail fatigue, locked, up incarcerated you got to talk, to
somebody you want to just talk. ABOUT anything i don't
really put too much stock, in it, because again this
is somebody that was incarcerated and was just wanting.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
To.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Talk, yeah, well no it's not about him, saying, It
right it's not some big bomb show that he. Said
it it's more about how do the topic? At hand
how do you guys feel about certain rappers just refusing
to Like a kendrick who's looked at as an intelligent or, intellectual,
rapper right this is what he's, looked at looked at
as Whether, You.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
No i'm, just, saying like how do you feel about rappers?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Like that not exactly leaning into working with what people
will call the mumble rappers or the.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
TRAP rappers I think kodak is actually a, great RAPPER
but i think people would still some of.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
The mumble rappers to be. STARTED with a mumble rapper
with future.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Future is not a.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Mumble rapper future is the.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
He's kind of king.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
MUMBLE rap.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I don't Know what future to, be Saying but kendrick
is the gospel a little. Bit dipent kendrick has kind
of become Like The chris brown of, like listen let
me let, me so let, me talk let me TALK
because i can let me talk SO that i can
when it comes, to, choruses right we all Know That

(56:14):
chris brown is the chorus KING of R.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And b future has KIND.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Of i don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
That everybody when niggas need a head A top R and,
b hit Niggas.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Throw chris brown on. The course so That's Just chris
brown's name being on. The THING like i don't know
if he's has the best hooks Is what, I'm saying
But It's chris brown. A feature i don't Give What
chris brown is doing on the SONG that. I have
do whatever the fuck, you, want sir as LONG as
i can put your name, On it, i'm.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Cool okay but it's Usually Because chris brown makes very
like when he's singing, a chorus it becomes very catching,
for sure and to. LIKE it i think in my
Opinion that future became that at one point. For rap
when you want to make a song that doesn't sound,
too mumbody bumboedy, rap rap you, put future You put future,
on it or you get on a Song with future

(56:57):
and it's a little bit. More mainstream it might still be,
mumble rap but it's a little bit. More MAINSTREAM am
i off by? Saying THAT am i crazy by?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Saying?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
That no, AND again i.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Don't think future is mumble rap because mumble rap went
so fucking far to mumbles that it makes future sound Like. Nas,
so yeah in, The beginning future may have been the
most popular quote unquote, mumble rapper but they took those
mumbles so goddamn Far that future is the most Articulate
rapper i've ever heard of.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
THE future i don't hear everything. He said out of all,
Of them future elevated, the.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Most, Right yeah I'm a i'm gonna keep. IT real
i Don't know future half.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
The, TIME.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Now i don't know what the fuck but it. Sounds
good it's.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
A vibe i'm like this nigga floating like it's the cadence,
is hard you Know what, I'm SAYING but i don't
know what The fuck future. Be saying sixty five percent of,
THE time i might catch the last end of. The ball,
OH okay i know what.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
He said but Even even thug of one of the greatest,
MELODIES ever i don't that.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
LIE stop i don't think fuck he said.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Before, that still but. It's INCREDIBLE but i also Don't
think thug is a. Mumble, rapper yeah he's they have,
mumble Moments but doug ain't a mumble Rapper In. Nor's
FUTURE but, i mean they wasn't in. My collection, by
future ain't no fucking mumble. On there it's just It's
just john, chapter three sixteen throughout that whole. Fucking, kill, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Okay but to bring the point back right when we
Said that kendrick did a feature with a, mumble, rapper
right which we all know what all of that stuff.
Was about as far as like hopping on like songs
like how like, For example cole is quicker to hop
on certain songs with, certain people that Isn't really. Kendrick's
bag so do you think that they have an obligation

(58:36):
if they're trying to further where hip hop, is going
they have an obligation to kind of like co mingle
with the people who are hotter in, Those AREAS.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Like, I mean i Don't know kodak narrated A whole
kendrick album.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Like, he's Done and kendrick has Worked with i've riched
the kid like he's worked with PEOPLE that I guess
drick just.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Want To give thug.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Of wig you just didn't want To give thug.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Of verse he just Wasn't, jacking thug.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
That's all and. That's FINE and i Understand why thug
was on the phone talking, like that like why he
don't want to do give me, a feature like you
don't want to do the Feature On, No SUPERSTAR like
i Understand what thugs how he felt in that moment
to do we have the timeline of when that, Was,
THOUGH no i mean.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
WE don't i don't, think they.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Because that to me would be more key in this.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Entire thing y'all.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Gonna leak these if y'all gonna put these, audio recordings
at least give us.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
THE dates, i mean we can assume a lot of
these calls may have been Pre, Pre beef but even
at that Point when drake was doing, the Video when
thug was, locked UP and i THINK that i think
There's two drake records On that Thug Album, business business
the Theory that kendrick was plotting for, A bit i

(59:46):
Can see kendrick turning Down the thug first and splitting
off enemies ahead, of TIME.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Like, i see, ALL right I see Drake and thug
have a.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Crazy relationship if he was plotting the way a lot
OF THE o vo stand pages and, everyone, SAYS yeah
i can see him Not giving thug a verse at
that time because he was he was planning what was
going to happen. NEXT year i could. See It or
kendrick was just busy, or, like yeah it could be

(01:00:16):
nothing at the end of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
The, Day oh kendrick just didn't want to give him.
A feature, that's like THAT'S that's, i mean this is
not like we're not trying to like create fire like this,
is no, of course it's like he just didn't want
To give doug a feature, like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Okay or This ship thug. Sent him he probably maybe
didn't like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
A million million familiar.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
With that, BUT again i didn't think that was really
that that crazy as far as those calls. And EVERYTHING but,
I mean i guess while we're, WE'RE here i hate
to ADMIT that. I enjoyed i'm just gonna, SAY quietly
i Enjoyed the Bobby and. Drake interview?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
You enjoyed we say, that again huh that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
IS anything i didn't say anything what. WAS enjoyable i.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Don't think punch gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
That know what he said was if you couldn't, hear
him you said he Enjoyed The Bobby all Taugh. AND
drake i Wo Was? Aboutobby?

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Brown was it was a Separate different.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Bobby shout Out to bobby just got his, master's back
but don't be cruel, and yeah, oh congrats.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
That's crazy Yeh He? Bobby brown did you Watch The BOBBY.
All tf I'm sure i'm mispronouncing That and drake INTERVIEW or.
I see i don't. BELIEVE you i feel like, YOU
know I didn't i.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
WATCH it i watched.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
THE clip i didn't watch the FULL like i watched.
The whole they've seen a bunch. Of clips though it
was it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
WAS entertaining i still, Stand.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
On i'm gonna. WATCH it i didn't watch, it YET
though i still. Stand on wanting to Hear from drake
as Well as kendrick as Well. AS cole i want
to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
From them with. Black, faces no not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
The people if all three of them hot pauls want
to sit with me in my, White face i'd be.
Happy to i'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Sit in with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
The culture bobby all taf isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
The culture don't do that Because because elliott distas, the
weekend everyone called me and said we Was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Beefing ELLIOTT who i? Saw that elio? Who?

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Me nah he whoever tweeted it was, very misleading and
then IN the i didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
See it what are, you saying all you podcasters and,
media men you rappers to turn media men a radio
want to act.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Like you all a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Media man well all this, you have you had your dream.

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Come true we're all the, same motherfuckers were the. Same
elliots journalism think, Means Nothing rob marks, Means nothing jeremy has.
Means nothing, your podcaster your, Former rapper you all. Media
man i'm gonna. Media personality i'm not. A journalisten i
don't want to Talk about cardi's album, no more, because nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
You you signed up for.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
The gig the gig is. The gig you barely could talk.
To artists they want to know what you think about everything.
We're doing the same. GODDAMN thing i want to call yourself.
A former i'm still. An artist i'm a. Media man i'm,
a podcaster but, Radio personality i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
A journalist like we're in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
The, same.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Game motherfucker we're in the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Same game my nightmarees. Come true we're in the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Same game you know we're on the. Same thing whenever,
you crash you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Just got off.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
The SUBWAY.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Do i see this?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Same.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
GAME motherfucker i don't care if. YOU'RE mall i don't
care if You're, Fat joe i'll. Name names your opinion
does matter because that's. The platform your audience wants your
opinion on things you don't you could.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Be able to get. The drive i'm.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Not qualified i'm not. A journalist we have, the mics.
Wall talking we're doing the same thing with all the same. Media,
men OH because, I said i'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
GONNA don't i don't feel comfortable Talking about cardi b
music because. SHE don't i don't feel she makes it.
For me but THAT'S really i don't feel comfortable talking
about ANYBODY that i know didn't make Anything that i'm not,
their audience their.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Target audience that's kind, Of like but his point that's
not ME being i thought that was me. Being honest
journalist has to speak, about everything that's. The, problem no
you don't know the fuck you. Don't know You don't
nobody in the world needs to speak. On everything journalists.
Are not you do not need to be speaking. On everything,
AND yes i stand.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
ON that i don't feel comfortable sitting here Talking about cardis,
V Music cardi b's MUSIC because i know she doesn't
make music.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
For me what's wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
WITH that i feel like that's being honest, and real
unlike some of these other niggas that got mikes in
their face and. Just, TALKING yeah i don't feel comfortable
Talking about, cardi MUSIC whether i like it. Or not
y'all Know how i'm Coming. ABOUT cardi i Fuck with
cardi big. BRONX shit i want to see her do
anything that she put her.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
MIND to i want her to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Be SUCCESSFUL but i don't feel comfortable sitting here talking
about her music AND saying i don't like IT because
I know cardi ain't going in the booth of laying
down balls with niggas like me. And mine so you
Know what.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I'm saying, so yeah dug then her voice, duh nigga
you're not supposed to. LIKE it i wasn't spitting these balls.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
For you, SO yeah i DON'T feel i don't feel
right sitting HERE saying i don't Like a. CARDI record
i DON'T because i know she ain't making it, for
me and, so yeah Shut.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Up elliott and, to me that is what Does disprove
elliot's point that he, was MAKING because i think that
is a form of Journalism what maul.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Just did and, You're, honest yes that is a form
Of journal the journalist should. Be honest If, integrity cardians
journalists should have integrity and thought none of you niggas
got more integrity.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Than me carti is obviously an a lister in, hip
hop so she's gonna get. Brought UP and i think
you Didn't avoid it's not like we just stayed Quiet.
ABOUT carty i just, FEEL like, i mean that's a whole.
Statement itself i'm not telling that shit is ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
For me it's not, for ME but I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Love cardi shout Out, to cardi BUT it's i don't
feel RIGHT saying i don't Like a, cardi RECORD like
i ain't supposed. To like that's like, ME saying i
Ain't like, cardi's, outfit nigga she ain't put that ON
hopeing i would like kid like, TO me i look
at it in same vein like that doesn't that's not.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
For me it's, funny Too because drake did BRING up
i guess something in that vein With the bobby interview
in regards to him sitting with her rather than. Certain
journalists the goal is not to be an unattainable dickhead
for your whole life and only speak To zaying low
while you ask you the most curated QUESTIONS and i,

(01:05:46):
mean complex not to say They took drake, misquoted him
but there was more context to what he. Was suggesting
he more or less was saying that artists can also
Go like nicky Going. To kai somebody that is usually
does not speak, to people is still allowed to go

(01:06:06):
to something that's not this formal. Fucking thing and he
said no disrespect To zaying low. As well he, didn't
DISSAYING but i understood what he. Was saying but it
kind of goes back to our conversation that we've had
a million times when it comes to. THIS topic i
think there can be a balance Of both Nicky and
kay being an Example that drake, brought up Or even Drake,

(01:06:29):
and bobby because he's saying that they ushered in the idea.
OF IT i i just want to balance as. A
fan i'm speaking strictly as.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
A fan i want.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
TO balance i don't think there's. A Balance has drake
not said down with?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
People?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Before, no no Of course i'm not making This a
he was talking about. ARTISTS overall i think there's been
a lack of that with a list artists and a
shit a good amount of artist period that they can
just go do the fun thing and avoid every thing
that people may want to know on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
The side but they're. Also humans they don't. Owe us
they don't owe.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Us that i'm just speaking as THAT'S what i was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Waiting for, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
It Don't does drake owe me any explanation for anything that's?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Like You but i'm saying some people speak as if,
he does and he.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Does not but as a fan, OF music i can
ALSO say i would love to hear from him with
somebody that's going to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Questions and receive ANSWERS that i want.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
To know. That's, ALL yeah i think. That's fine the
REASON why i never understood why people get upset about
it like this is because, number one he sat down,
with people plenty of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
People, before yeah but it's. Different now he sat down
in the whole Barbershop with Lebron and god and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
The guys he sat Down with elliot a couple, of
Times had elliott in his, living ROOM which i thought
was he sat down with a bunch.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Of everything, he said sat down with a bunch. Of
time but that was at a time we wanted. To
hear that's why That rap radar interview was. So great
outside of beat Out and elliott doing a, great job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Nobody so was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
He addressed he addressed, okay shit he addressed the push,
a shit he addressed so he addressed the kidshit that you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Don't see why now things will be Different for drake
and who he decides to sit next to and, talk to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
For Sure but i'm not trying to make This a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Drake thing i'm going Off what drake was saying about
ushering in this idea of all artists kind of going
this route to. Some, Degree, now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Yeah they don't want to sit down with the, same old.
Same old they don't want to sit down and have
the same. Curated conversations they'd rather sit down with somebody
that knows them in a, different light has the more
of a personal connection, to them and they could have,
a fun.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Cool Conversation kanya nikky didn't know each other. At, all
well it was not that they not that they knew,
each other but it was just polar.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Opposite worlds it Was too so, it's, like okay it's
but he's SAYING that i made it cool for it
not to be the same old formal sit down type
of thing where you go and sit down with these
people that have again these curated questions and. These conversations
it's like people don't want to do that. Old, TIME
yeah i, understand it but these same people that, they're,
saying oh we, want them they've sat down with these

(01:08:58):
people before and had conversations.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
With them but everyone's speaking specifically based off what. Has,
happened yes because everybody wants to Hear from. Drake now
everybody wants to ask him about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
The beef and. What happened of course we, get it
but do people not understand how he would not ever
want to sit down with any of? You, niggas again,
for sure nobody sees that in this equation, Of course,
oh okay That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
I'm asking how do power people?

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
So surprised again and being completely objective. IN this i Liked,
to kendrick shit? Is IT but i still want to Hear.
FROM kendrick I want kendrick to SOMEBODY like i.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Have questions it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Just him you have, Questions NOW oh i?

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Have? Questions, yeah yeah Why would that's not a weird
thing for a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
To Want all i'm not saying, As well i'm just
saying it's way for fans to not Understand why drake
doesn't want to sit next.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
To me, to me. THAT'S weird i don't think fans don't.
Not understand, and, also no they. Don't, care, yeah no they.
Don't care it's not it's not that they. Don't understand,
And honestly I'M not i don't think that the fans
are crazy for. Thinking that there's a little bit of
a do of not wanting to talk about. Certain, things

(01:10:02):
yes we want to do more fun interviews and curated
interviews can, be, boring this this, and that but there's
also so many different types of creators who have a
different interview. Type platforms That Before bobby altoff became, the thing,
or Honestly before drake made her. The, thing like there's
other people who aren't the traditional people or People that
drake might have felt stabbed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Him in his back during.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
This, beef newer younger people who are you Know what,
i'm saying who are doing things that he can also,
sit with who but who would also ask. Him questions
they might not be, super curated but who would also
ask him certain QUESTIONS that i just don't think that
he's prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
To ANSWER so i just don't want it. TO all
i just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
WANT second i don't want it to JUST be i just.
ONE second i don't want the conversation to. Just be
drake just wants to do, fun stuff and he also
doesn't want to sit with. Fake niggas there is also
the point of there's certain shit when it comes to
that battle because of the outcome of it and things
like That that drake just doesn't want to talk ABOUT.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
That's sok but.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Want to talk. About it why you say he doesn't
want to talk, About.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
It I'm what i'm saying is that people are assuming
that he doesn't want to Talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
That's different let me let me, say, this assumptions people's
assumptions and what is are.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Two different but you can you can have a safe
assumption that when you just throw small little comments on,
streams anytime you just stake ship when you Talk, with
aiden when.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
You talk with because he made little shots In the bobby.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Shit too it's like it's like the first time You
saw marlowe in the wire and do had the gun of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
The head, he said do it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Or DON'T but i got ship, to do like either
either talk about it or shut up? About IT is
i think feel but the fans it's. Entitlement thing, but
yeah fans. Are entitled i'm an entitled.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Fan sometimes but again that's that's again that's a, problem
though because on one hand. You're entitled but on the,
other hand, we know no matter who he sits, now
with no matter what questions, he asked no matter what answers,
he gives people are still going to have. A, problem
sure so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
What the fuck is The, rushed like what are?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
We?

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
Talking?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Rush no but what does the fans rush to want
him to sit down with whoever they?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
WANT to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I think he eventually is going to do a real
interview with somebody, he is but when he wants. TO
know i think when the album, comes out they'll do
that when he. Wants TO so i don't UNDERSTAND saying
i actually enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
THE interview i also. DON'T think. I don't i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
THINK that i do think when the album comes that
he'll sit and talk. ABOUT that i actually.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
DON'T think i think you don't think he'll ever talk.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
ABOUT that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I don't i didn't, say EVER but i don't think
that when the, ALBUM comes i don't think he'll talk.
ABOUT it i could, Be wrong I'M not i do
not Know, dreck SPINE but i don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
HE will, i mean he doesn't, Need, to like he
doesn't need to use that as a roll out quote unquote.
Like that clearly he doesn't. Need that but if you
don't think that he's gonna sit down one day, IN address,
I mean i think he said it at the end of.
The thing didn't he say, Like like i'm we gonna get.
To it i'm gonna We're gonna i'm gonna see, you,
guys like so he basically is letting it be known,
that no we're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
TO that i thought that was for. The, ALBUM yeah
i assumed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
He, was no, He said i'm gonna see. You, guys,
Yeah yeah i'm talking about through the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Music whatever, well okay well what everybody is assuming is
that that was a teaser for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
The, album yea he doesn't need it to the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Do album we know the album. Was, coming no That
was i'm on tour, right NOW because i Think then
bobby ask him something about why is he DOING the
us tour and he, was, LIKE well i just FINISHED
the us tour when the old. THING started i was
still on tour actually when that, thing started And now
i'm On a. European, tour like but we're gonna. Do
that he's gonna he's gonna get back to TOURING. The

(01:13:31):
us like my, thing is people are just so he
needs to sit down with. This person why does? It
matter he could sit down WITH whoever i wanted to sit.
Down with no matter what, HE says i can promise
you there's going to be a million videos uploaded after
the interview, saying oh why didn't He ADDRESS oh i
think he's lying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
About that he didn't feel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
THAT way, I mean i, understand that but he's not
special in that regard because that's what. Every celebrity every
single time a celebrity opens their mouth and they have
a certain amount, of popularity anything that they say is
going to be either clickbaited or turned around or used for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
A headline like that's just part of being. A CELEBRITY
but i think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
The conversation that people are having is you're sitting up
there talking about certain things with someone that is not
of the culture because they don't even know what questions to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Ask YOU and i think that that is the backlash
that maybe coming.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
From that doing an Interview With bobby altoff, Is, FINE
like i don't think anybody has a problem with him.
Doing that it's just you Doing your your attention is
Going To bobby Altoff And aiden ross and all of
these people who are not of the culture of music
that kind of really birthed. Your CAREER so i think
that that maybe what people have an. ISSUE with i
don't think it's that he's doing interviews. WITH them i

(01:14:45):
think that. He's own it's because he's only doing interviews
with them when there are plenty of young black creators
or you Know what, i'm saying and things, like that
or streamers or things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Like That, all right you strike me as an. Intelligent
woman do you think that, that's purpose that's that's on
purpose that he's. Doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Don't give my Opinion on, drake ANYMORE but i don't
know my opinion on. Drink ANYMORE but i do think
THAT because i, don't say.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
To answer you gave WITH the Cardi ship i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Stealing, that YEAH anything i Say about drake will be
used against me in a quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Of law BUT what, i WANT what i will say.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
IS this i Think that drake is very very very
very very, very SMART and i think that he likes
a certain level of control when it comes. To THINGS
and i think if he's not ready to talk, about
something it will not be talked about and he will
not be asked. About IT and i think that that
is what is. Going ON but i don't think that

(01:15:36):
there's anything wrong. With it, but, yes yes to answer,
your question yes that's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Not, purpose yes that's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Purpose YEAH so, I mean i just you know again
that people being upset because he's not sitting down. WITH
whoever I just i don't remember a, Time again i'm
a little. Olderan y'all not once during the Whole poc
biggie BEEF that i, Ever, say yo this nigga poc
need to sit down with this person to talk. ABOUT
that i don't give a fuck to hear about none
of these niggas talk about a.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Rat, beef okay don't. Do that Because the jay and,
No ship jay Sat. With angie you can find out who.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
YouTube who said he who was sitting, around, Saying yo
jay gotta sit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Down with angie and talk.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
About this who's saying that nobody even cared about ship?

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Like, that well this is also when it comes to
like fucking. Media outist at, the time nobody had everyone had.
It was it wasn't nobody will think anyone wanted to.
After ether nobody wanted to Hear from hove of. Course
no we wanted to, hear records wanted to, hear bars
and nobody was asking for. An interview this this interview
ship wasn't like this is a whole. New world this

(01:16:35):
interview ship. Is interviews we're thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
YEARS old i.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Nobody cared about energy what we were Doing when jay Sat.
With angie of course.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
You did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Let me care about.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
It happened you wasn't at home and Queen SAYING jay
z needs to sit down and talk to somebody about.
This beef you wasn't saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
You, came out didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Because you didn't have to beg for.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
The interviews you didn't have, to bet you didn't have
to say this needs, to happen this needs to happen
because you knew that it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Would, happen no. You didn't it wasn't even, A thought,
TRUST me i was. Really out that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Was nothing nobody was thinking about. An interview niggas wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Hear, raps okay even though, YOU'RE right i was not
sitting There going jay needs to Talk. To angie but
you don't think that whole thought in, his mind with
all of the fans That hurt ether and the chatter
that was going around the, ENTIRE country i need to
go Sit. With angie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
That's what he.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Was thinking was a thing that. People wanted he wouldn't have.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Done it He need he was sitting there, like, listen
listen first, of all through the whole fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Thing too it was first, of all the way the.
Thing ended jay gave a reason of why he was
backing out of. The thing his mom had stepped, to
him like. The energy so it was a. Whole thing
but nobody Nowhere On no block, Was, SAYING yo i
can't wait for THE jay z interview when he talks.
ABOUT this i can't wait FOR the bbc Or The
jada kiss interview when they talk, about this that this

(01:18:03):
is a whole new thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
With, rap now can you want to hear interviews.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
About you're talking about you're talking About jay z Wasn't
on state doing a stream every.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Goddamn night of course he wasn't because. He wasn't so
number so, number one first of, all times there's there's most.
Sposal things, number One like rory, just said the times
have changed and we consume, more media and we expect
more out of, our, celebrities right whether that's good or,
bad whatever that's. One thing number two is just because
the niggas On the block weren't waiting for the interview

(01:18:34):
does not mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
That music but who have we figured out what culture?

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Is?

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Yet, Yeah, ME yeah i know exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
What, culture okay that's convenient because we've. Asked before.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Nobody knew but people who care about, music journalism because
that has also always been. A thing just because it
was not, your thing that has also always been. A
thing there were people who waited for the interviews that
came out in. The source who weren't just there for
the pre pictures and the fat in. The ads there
were people who waited for shit. Like that there were
people who really cared about shit. Like that that's how
the blog era. WAS beefed i mean it was born

(01:19:06):
from people who were in love with shit. Like, that,
so yes people did care about. Those, things no nigga's on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
The, block no they, Interviews, always yes interviews are always.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
A thing when they made the politic, wig shit what
it was the vibe cover is what popped the whole.
Shit off it was medi it was popped doing. An
interview i'm not saying that interviews weren't always scrapped one
because everyone to hear. From podcast i'm not going.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
To saying that interviews weren't always a part of culture
and music and things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Like, that yes artists have always.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Given, INTERVIEWS yes i understand That what i'm saying is
coming out of a beef with, another artist. Another rapper
nobody was asking, or, saying yo why this person needs
this artist needs to sit down and talk. About this
that wasn't a thing, Until NOW and i understand times.
Have Changed what i'm saying is you can't expect an
artists to do the things that or sit down with

(01:19:54):
who you want them to sit down with when you
want them to sit, down with especially coming out of
the situation that this particular artist is coming out up
and not try. To, understand, WELL damn i can see why.
He ain't he doing his own thing and moving on
how he. Want to he don't give a fuck about
the culture anymore because he sees what the culture tried
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
To him can people are people not missing? That part
at the end of, the day it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Doesn't matter drake is gonna do whatever the fucking he wants,
to do and he has the freedom to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Do that he doesn't owe. Us anything he's given us.
So much he doesn't owe.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Us ship he doesn't want to be a culture. Vulture
anymore so he sat down with a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
White, girl okay he doesn't have he doesn't. Have to
he doesn't, have to he doesn't have to be A
culture vulture's. Actually funny he's tired to be in a coat,
of vulture so he sits down with the.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
White girl that's actually Pretty fun i'm, just, saying no. It's, Funny, oh,
okay okay. Moving forward are we? Doing, voicemail no we
have to Talk. About flex, oh, Yeah, hey flex what?

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
You're? Doing, enough man what's up? OVER there i don't.
Like that that's Not No new. York ship actually That
Is new york. Shitty, doing yeah that's Definitely To new york.
SHITY doing I.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Mean i want to start by saying Enough and camillo absolute.
Fucking legends thank thank you for, your service and you
have been nothing but a both of them a huge
part of my entire life in. Every aspect, radio parties,
breaking records mixed it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
LIKE everything i.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Don't think that would be a party of Town that camilla. Wasn't,
Deep yeah like.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
It's like cheers when he's, djaying it it's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
The Best but flex in this wrestling shit is just
getting a.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Little too much.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
For me when you say, wrestling shit what do?

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
You mean flex has always been very much the WRESTLER type,
dj personality even though did we talk Was it patreon
or last episode when it was announced that it was
his last show and then we just found out now
you're just extending your slot like it's not your.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Last show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Flex's is just getting too old for that type of marketing,
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Cause again back to the DIRECT thing i want to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
FROM somebody i Listened to flex's, last SHOW and i
heard his his entire story of the, enough thing and
all he did, was say a whole bunch of. Fucking
nothing you didn't, dress anything you did this whole wrestling
marketing plan and then gave us. Absolutely nothing there's. NOTHING
there i just Say that hot ninety seven is downsizing

(01:22:24):
and firing everybody, mm hmm like they're just merging all the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Time, Slots well flex obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Has, seniority dude he's probably Been at hot ninety seven
more than PROBABLY the ceo at this at this point of,
it's yeah so he's had he had and if, you
know You know flexing enough have their history for sure over,
the years you know that they're not the best, of friends.
YOU know i guess it's just a work kind of
work relationship type of thing under the same Umbrella with hot.

(01:22:53):
Ninety SEVEN but, i Mean it's enough wrong for Feeling
like flex wanted him out in, My, opinion no he's
not wrong. For that he's, probably, RIGHT yeah, i think
because if You, know enough he's not the type of
person that's gonna even put that out there unless he
feels like there is some credence to what he's, feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Enough being the great GUY that, I know i was
shocked he even TALKED to tmz when he, walked out
because he's not that type of. Dude whatsoever, SO yes
i think in his, harder hearts he fully believes That
that flex was the reason that he. Was cut but
so is the REST of tz tories out like. THEY'RE
extending i LISTENED to ebro in the morning. This morning

(01:23:36):
all of them didn't even get an email that their
show is. Being extended everything changed. OVER there i Don't
think flex is the main person making, those calls, BUT
yes i think he's higher up enough to, be like,
all right we'll scrap. Enough here if we need, to
downsize these are THE people i think we should. Take
out if you need to meet your nut every month

(01:23:56):
and we can't afford all, These, salaries yeah these are
THE people i would say we. Should clip, SO yeah
i think. It's THERE but i also Don't think flex
bust INTO an ms communication office and, was like let's
fire all. THESE people I think ema said we don't
have money like. That anymore people need To, go flex
you are on the creative side. Of this who would?
You CUT and i think he made some calls which

(01:24:18):
may have some personal tension behind it, For sure but,
EVEN again i Listened to ebro in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
The, Morning ebra i'm not putting words in.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Your mouth i'm just SAYING, how i as a listener of,
you guys took your Comments. ABOUT flex i don't think
he Was, disin flex but he more or Less said
flex will play the corporate game no, matter what and
not everyone in the building. Does that whoever the corporate

(01:24:46):
person that, Is there flex will cuddle up. UNDER them
i won't use the term shuck in job because it
has a very, bad past but that's what he. Was
saying That's what ebro. Was saying flex has always been
that person since the Inception of high, ninety seven and
he will continue to do that no matter who is in,
charge there who is doing what and enough is not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
That person ebro's probably in a good middle ground.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Of. That like, of course he'll play. The game everyone
plays the game to, some Degree but flex is the
like the LEADER of i will do whatever corporate wants.
For me in this teacher's PAT and i Was shocked
ebro was giving it up. LIKE that I give I, Give,
Ebro rosenberg laura everyone up there credit because they talked

(01:25:35):
about all the, budget cuts, new studios this, and that
like they gave it up. This morning they didn't just
sit there and, be, like yo it's. All good they
said it was. Fucked up and they said they don't
even know if we're gonna, be here like we don't
know what we're doing because we don't play the Game
like flex plays. The game flex gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
There, forever, yeah No, feel yeah he's gonna be a
hot ninety seven for long Long after YOU and i
Are going and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
It's off.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
The record we're on, A, podcast elliott we're. Not journalists
this is off the record. THAT'S recorded i also think
there's a big lawsuit coming with, all radio. ALL radio
i think there's a. Huge LAWSUIT and i think it's
not directly with some of the firing and downsizing, that's
HAPPENING but i think there is a very very big

(01:26:25):
lawsuit coming within the music industry and. Radio. SPECIFICALLY why
i don't know HOW much i can. SAY yet i
don't know HOW much i can SAY yet i.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
SAY it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
I just think that there is some type of Way
of rico and money laundering going on with radio and the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Music business That's all. I'm saying, all right so you
know the, same thing, All right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
So you heard. THIS too i think some shity is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
GOING down.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
I, THINK enough.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
I think it is a blessing Enough and camilo got
the fuck out. OF there i think this ship is.
GOING down i don't know if it's gonna be. This
year something is a fun this year and, that year
whatever it, will be. Something's coming asses will be on
the five. The, government yo y'all should have Kept the italian. Mafia,

(01:27:29):
going man because.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
They Took the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
Rico ship what's the cleaner time now They putting rico,
fucking person Know what.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
I'm, saying.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Yeah man and THEN when i was hearing, ABOUT this i, was,
like damn that's a beautiful way, of money.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Lunder man no wonder radio pays out better.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Than.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Streaming man you know this is, you know you gotta
see the, book sometimes but.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
This is just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Entertainment purposes this is off. THE record i don't know
what The fuck i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Talking, about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Literally outside, the office somebody told me this that was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
PASSING by i, KNOW nothing I promise i know Nothing
about i'll even take my glasses off of. THIS one
i know nothing about. The case i'm just speculating because
that's what we do, on podcasts because.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
We're not journalists and none of this ship. Is real
we are.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
JUST bullshitting i just hope everybody has been saving.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Their, money yeah that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Is all because that ship is gonna. Get une but
do we? Have voicemails you've got mail obviously sponsored.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
By boost like it's just a weight.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Of me just leaves off sometimes Knowing that i'm not in. A, rico.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yeah you sleep good? At, night yeah just lay down
and they feel like they're, laying on laying.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
On sneakers, yeah sometime, YOU know i have, Street dude
i'm a civilian not but you you and a you're not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Building up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
You might be in. A, rico yeah take some money.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
That we're gonna get. To that, Don't worry we're gonna get.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
To, it, Hi guys i'm the girl who hates. Her
cousin i'm calling back because.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
IS do i?

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
Sound young i'm twenty SIX and i feel like, that's
young but ALSO like i think it's old because like fucking.
Health insurance, BUT facts i just want to say she
was on some weirdo shit and it was over, A
nigga So maybe, i'm childish but the shit happened years
ago and she has, never apologized and the bitch maintained
weird during her crash OUT after i. Confronted HER so

(01:29:24):
i was talking to a NIGGA after i graduated in,
high SCHOOL so i was like going away, to college
coming back to my town like all that type. Of
SHIT but i was like very casually fucking with, A
NIGGA like I knew i didn't want to be with,
this NIGGA but i also was like he's fine As
fucking i've thought he was fine, for ages so like?
Why NOT and i also found out he was literally
best friends with my COUSIN that i do. Fuck with

(01:29:47):
i'm gonna Call. HER shan i found out he was
like best friends with, her BOYFRIEND so i, was like,
oh bad we going on a two woman or whatever.
The fuck And so i'm fucking. With him I'm, Telling
ru i'm gonna say that's THE COUSIN i I. Hate
rue i'm telling her intimate details like, oh yeah like blah,
blah BLAH like i think blah blah blah blah and shit,
Like that and the, whole time the bitch was like buying,

(01:30:08):
him shit trying to like. Link up, i'm like she
had your chance with. The friend we matched up three.
To three why are you pushing up on? My NIGGA so,
I like i confronted her and told her she won't
shit and she, Never APOLOGIZED so i don't. Like her.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Oh so mall.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Was right i'm, always. Right baby.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
Can you guys like full remind me of the. Exact
backstory it was the girl that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Hated her remember she hated her cousin her her family
will always put on the phone. With her, she's LIKE
am i Wrong because i'd like get that girl to
fuck off?

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
The, Phone, yep yeah it. Was over malla. Was right
it was over.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
A nigga i must not got it, like THAT which, i,
MEAN relax, I know. I don't you don't, need, To,
Okay like i've never had two women fighting for one
buying Me Shit like i'm just not.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
That ill how do you get to?

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
The status it's Not because i'm not even concerned about their.
Cousin relationship i'm concerned on how this guy got to pull.
That off but fucking with. Toxic women so THAT'S what
i need.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
To, do, Yeah, okay no you JUST gotta, i mean
get your.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Aura up get your. Aura up it's funny because how
do you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Do that if it's not how you will say you
you gotta get your. Area up if you don't walk
crystals off telling you to get your.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Aura up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
You get your aura when you walk in. The room do?

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
It like does it like change the energy in.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
The room you don't think you DON'T think i.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Had that i'm asking you what you think? About, yourself uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
It starts.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
With Self rory, peace said depressive energy to walk in
the room and just suck the life out of. The
everyone you feel like you don't like the. ROOM up
i think with my friends, AND family i like the.
Room UP if i were to just they know. You're
depressed they're trying to. Like me they're trying to light.
You up you're. Lighting, up yeah you're walking, The, Lake,
hi rory how are?

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
You today they don't want to make too much noise
and get you Know what, i'm saying your sensory going
off like they want to make sure everything's, you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Mean sensories are. Very important yes, they ARE and i
can be over stimulated. Very, easily yes they know your
family KNOWS sometimes i have to, Do, this YES but i,
THINK nah I think.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
I do i in? A, Room okay oh the thoughts?
With self has?

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Anybody et, but no it's usually false BECAUSE when i
walk in, A room i'm usually the only, white PERSON
and i think that's why people. ARE looking i don't think, it's,
like yo you have this good and everyone's like just, looking, like, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Okay rory if you walk in a room and you're
usually the only, white person that is by choice because We're. In,
AMERICA no.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
I know i'm just saying room Experiences that i've HAD
where i THINK maybe i do have an aura because
people look or pay ATTENTION when i walk in. A
room i think it's just really.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
My, complexion okay you're, probably, saying hey it's ninety two.
Degrees outside what's that ginger?

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
Doing?

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Here yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
Pretty much or is that a? Police officer is that?
A nark have y'all ever seen somebody? Know him have
you Ever seen roy into? A?

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Room, though Like if i've Ever seen I've known rory's.
Probably fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Do you pay attention to how he enters?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
The?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Room uh?

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
He does he enter the room Like fucking Kramers. IN
sciinefield i don't Know about rory enters.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Every room he could be at the front door, like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
This where are you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Looking at?

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
What facts oh that's that's the socially awkward. Ship, though
yeah that's just that's him being just socially. Awkward though
that that's the. ENERGY off i don't want anyone to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
See, me, yeah yeah you're trying to please don't see.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Me food but THAT'S why, i, said like get your,
aura up like that's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Not aurrific that's My or like, all RIGHT so i
should have a fake or to try to attract. Fake,
People no i'm just saying that if you tend to
be somebody else SO that i try somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
That's speed walking through, The room i'm not buying him
ship like you Know what, I'm saying you don't have
buy a nigga Shit energy like you gotta get that type.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Of aura you, asked us and we're telling. You how.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
Jamara's you know a handful of Women That i've i've allegedly.
Brand into we'll call it, Exchange dinner exchanged. Energy dinner
what do you tell me every single Time when, I'M
like i didn't think that girl liked me? Like that
and what do you say that girl was absolutely in love.
WITH you i have the greatest aura of all any

(01:34:30):
girl that enters my world around.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Seat, ni man it's usually it's usually women with. Daddy
issues he, loves those, he loves he loves those type.
Of women you know, Your, father yeah not.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
For, ME nah i don't. DO that, i mean do
you definitely asked women.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Do they love?

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Their dad you love? Your, Dad well I'M now i
haven't spoken to him in like. Fifteen years what about
the relationships with. The father, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
All my lif on, some relationships but with.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Their FAMILY and i don't just say you had a
relationship with, Your, family like what's your relationship with? Your
family as soon as they get, to, say yeah you know,
my money my mom, may cool me your mom? Not
cool AND why i just don't fuck with? That bitch?

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Whoa check you refer to your mom as? A bitch i.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
GOTTA go i don't want no part of a woman
that refer to her mom as. A bitch all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Exceptions to, the rule but that can be misleading Sometimes
because i've definitely dealt with WOMEN that i have both
both their parents are, still married still, in love great. Healthy,
relationship yeah and they still, oh, Yeah mind like the
are the ones that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
They their uncle?

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Molested them you got to ask them about. The, uncles oh, my.
Gosh uncles it's usually an uncle. Or cousin, my bad?

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
What.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
HAPPENED no i.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Also think that women who had both parents in, their
lives Especially like. DADDY'S girls i also THINK that I
think daddy's girls be. Terrible people like as a terrible
person That's a, Daddy's GIRL like i think they we
be terrible people as.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Far as WHAT because i think there's a little bit of.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
An entitlement it's like like the insecurities that come with
certain things we. Don't HAVE and i think sometimes insecurities
might make you a little bit better of, a person
or like at least better of a girlfriend because it's
just kind of LIKE like, I know i'm good without,
you regardless and it makes me not stand for like
certain ship Like if i'm around THIS because i want to,
be AROUND like i don't need you to like be.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
The, case, yeah YEAH like i.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Don't Need what you don't want to be around somebody
because you want to be around now because you need to. Be,
around yeah but.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
That's but even in, that way it's there is some
entitlement of where you feel like you don't need to
work in this relationship because you don't need, this relationship
like work should always be with. Your partner. M, h yeah,
but yeah a lot of daddy's girls will, be, like
well my dad will take care, of everything no matter what,
my life my dad will take care. Of everything and,
it's like That's not you're not a relationship with your.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Pop YET but i just teach you things that a
daddy can't teach. It, though god you See what. I'm
saying you. Feel me i'm not horny. At all my
shit is small, Right now i'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
At all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
His aura is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Very dim i'm not horny, at all baby. At all
you Know said.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
I'm chilling i'm, just saying like, you know when they
get when when daddy's girls get to talking, like that, it's,
like yeah but our relationship and your dad's relationship is
two totally. DIFFERENT relationships i love the fact that you're
a daddy's girl because you know. Certach shit you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Ain't going for.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
FOR men i, respect that but you also you also
got to understand that our dynamic is totally. Different though
THAT'S all i love when women have great relationships with,
their dads what with their, family period but when they
have great relationships with their dad because, they yes they're
not going to stick around, For bullshit but WHY would
i even be? Presenting bullshit you Get what. I'm, saying
like so, it's, LIKE yeah i love the. Defect you

(01:37:34):
but when your, daddy's girl you have certain things that,
you do like, you know you're you're you know how
to cater and make sure that the man of the house.
Is comfortable you Understand what, I'm, saying like that's what daddy's.
Girls are they know how to make a house. A.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Home no no.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Saying the girls with the single mom girls they be
ones that ca.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Daddy's girls they know how to make a house. A
home they understand because they watched their mom cater to
their dad and make their dad.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
And not exactly because you could be a daddy's girl,
Your parents like my parents broke UP when i. Was
fourteen i'm still a. Daddy's girl like my parents didn't
have to stay together for Me, to like are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
You if you're in a relationship, with men are you
catering to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
The, men yes but it has nothing to do with.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
My dad that has everything to do with. My mom
but you See what, I'm saying like that has like
that has nothing to do with. My dad that's just
the way that the women and my. Family were they
were very. Male centered so growing up it was about
everything was about making. Men comfortable my Father was my
father was a terrible person and helped me become a.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Terrible person like THAT'S why i, was saying some daddy's girls, be.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Tway your dad helped you become a. Terrible person when.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
It comes to a, certain thing when it comes to
certain things, in relationships it's kind, of, like yeah it's
kind of like there's a there's an, ego thing there's
a there's an ego thing of you're the greatest thing
that's ever happened, to me so therefore you're the greatest
thing that's ever happened to. The world and then you
go out into the world and you act, like that
which is Something that i'm. Working on but you go
out into the world and you act, like that and men, are, like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Bitch you all give to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
The WORLD oh I know, I, am yeah gift to your.
Niggas too that's fact and every other nigga that clos into.
My life but there has to be a certain range when,
you're interested.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
You think that?

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Is it do you think that is a blessing to
be sitting across?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
From, me, WELL clearly i found out my ora, is
AWFUL so i don't think she thinks that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
ABOUT me i like the way mob like pose that
quite like it's a blessing to be sitting across, from.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
YOU because i feel like it's a blessing to be
sitting across.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
From me do you really? Believe that because YOU know
i don't fuck, With nobody and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
At the end of, The day page is the biggest
blessing everybody in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
This room he's only. Unfireable nigga i'd be telling people
that all. The, time anyway we wrapped.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
This up pe is taking us to the top of
Every business.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
I've been.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
We all love, Each other we love. You all we're
all a blessing to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Each, OTHER jada i tried to tell them that that was.
A situation glad you called back and made that. Very
clear that was, her, Name, right jada believe that's?

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Her.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Name jada yes To close. Jada's, call YEAH.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
But, i, mean yeah you shouldn't going from kissing cousins
to trying to fuck the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Same guy that that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
SHOULDN'T work.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I don't i don't think she.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Said that That's what that's WHAT.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
What i took from The, entire well.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
He's ship you See why drake don't want to do
interviews no matter What he's you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Think DRINKS.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Oh i. Don't know i'm not speaking.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
All that you ever find out a girl's not really,
Your cousin, oh yeah then your whole brain.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Chemistry, changes, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Yeah gross but it's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Never gone far, as, like, well obviously BUT didn't i
tell you. ABOUT that i exchanged numbers with A girl
i met the day before my. Family union found out
she was like, a cousin like a. DISTANT cousin i,
was like that was that's as far as it's. Ever
gone it's never.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
Gotten physical And obviously i've never done that because all
my COUSINS that i thought my cousins that weren't my cousins.
Are white, so like it wasn't gonna. Go anywhere you can,
tell you you can tell. Your PROBLEM but i did,
be like, oh yeah she got a, pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Now contrary to, your belief for all black people don't
look like all white people Look.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
LIKE nah i think you look Just.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Like Canelo.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
He's mexican See.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Jesus christ Look, look god you look like people that
hat even from.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Your try do you want to get the vaccine the history,
of THAT because i can give you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
History yeah the ship just. Stopped somewhere that's what let
me in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
The ship the ship just made. A Stop roy, YAH
know i know how that go know exactly how. That
goes somebody had to cook on, the boat right.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
For sure that's the reason why there is a Lot
of irish people In.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
The wesdy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
You put it in the camera on The, mars, alright
man let's get out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Of here we'll talk to you. All soon.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
Be.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Safe blad i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
That nigga he's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Just.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Gingent peace