Episode 403 | The Jeffrey Files - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. No happy Birthday to Peage. Page's birthday is
sponsored by Boost absolutely, hease.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I don't know if you know that or not.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's in a contract.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Your birthday is definitely sponsored by My mother's birthday is
I don't know. You get unlimited talk text and dad
on your birthday, you know, for just twenty five dollars
a month.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
A lot of birthday texts, not like airth.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Mother's on meat Page, I got you don't you know,
don't even trip. I got twenty that's just code mallah. Yeah,
that's just meat right there.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I got you. Don't worry about that. Happy birthday. I
got Peage though, yeah, man, I'm I didn't know Peach
was that old. We were closer in age. He is
not old. He's not older though. No I'm old. Actually
I'm not old, but I'm older. You're not old for
the Earth. You're old for the room, thank you Roy
that the Earth. But like this, that really helps me

(00:55):
that the Earth, like being on Earth, you're not old,
you know what I'm saying. Like there's older people, but
like in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, there are older people on Earth than me. I'm
not the oldest man on Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Order in the room. Though you are in the room, Yes,
in this room, maybe on the block, on this block, demeris.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm not saying because we don't want to get demonetized.
I'm not gonna curse a you seven seconds maybe be
past seven. Good, he didn't matters, fuck you?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right? Well? May you a birthday coming up? I
do have a birthday coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Getting older, demeras older, I now be the oldest nigga
on both of these blocks.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Forty six.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Stop playing with me how I don't know? All right,
so then you just shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I guessing.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Stop trying to get it's not a though right now
she's off, she's off a little bit. Forty four forty
four okay, yes, oh we look great, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
What are you gonna do for your birthday? Virgo babies?
Virgo season? How can you guys? It's like, oh, everyone
watch out. I saw somebody. Oh you're a Libra. Yes
I'm a libra. Oh not all of September is not virgo.
See I don't know ship Yeah, who cares? I just
assumed September was out. I think after if you want

(02:02):
me to be a Verghill Rory, I'll be a Virgo
for you I'm a virgo. Yes, no, you ain't. You're
very much a libro.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
How am I very much explained it charming.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Very charming, very very balanced, very shallow a little.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Bit, but you're very shallow as well. I am not shallow.
What I am not shallow? You was as shallows that
water you felling in that pool when you was d
that was deep. That water was deep. I stood up
completely and was still in the water, Like, what's that
bruise doing good? It's the bruises healing up.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, broke my Kuchie Likesa said, but broke said she
broke broken pussy.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
You don't remember. No, it wasn't that. It was Molly
that had the broken pussy. Yeah, but Easter sunget Oh
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(02:59):
New All. So no birthday plans whatsoever, not yet. I
think I'm gonna go away though. I think we take
a little vacation. Okay, Yeah, I'm not sure. We have
to say that a lot and then you stay in
your house. No, no, no, this this this birthday, I'm
gonna go away for sure, I'm gonna take a trip.
I guarantee you come Wednesday before his birthdays like, yeah,
it's gonna go see see mom. And I said, now
I'm gonna do that this weekend. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna

(03:20):
do that this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Audio that weekend act believe a spot in minds not. Yeah,
I've been looking at a mariage could be a tour guide,
the marriage could be a tour guy. She triedl was often,
I don't know. I've been looking at some places in Mexico.
I've been looking at uh, some places in the Caribbean,
Virgin Islands. Okay, just trying to see, you know what
I like, take a little vacation, get some sun.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
If you want to ski water the hurricane season, you
could go to the ABC Islands, which is what I did,
Like the Aruba, bon Air, Curasu. They miss hurricane season
because they're out of the hurricane belt.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So yeah, yeah, I was looking at all of that.
This is like an adult trip or maybe like a
lucky lucky lady or.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, I might take three three porn stars
with me. That's fun, that's fun, you know, have some fun.
I mean, just just let us know what I wand
you go to I think I'm.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Free if you invite yourself somewhere, all right. If mal
goes to an island with three porn stars and tells
like it's an island, though, like I could just go,
I'm not invited. But like if we run into each other,
there's only so many resorts. I don't think that's inviting yourself,
Like I like a ruler. Yeah, come on, pull up
so good, and like, of course we'll take the week
off because it's your birthday, so I'll have the time.

(04:30):
Might as well bring the cameras. Might as well bring
some porn stucks. There's poortstars. We need cameras, you know
that can't have a porn star out of camera. That's
what That's what I mean by definition. They just be
fucking exactly exactly exactly. But did anyone do anything fun
this weekend? I was on Daddy Dude pretty much the

(04:51):
entire time, trying to teach my daughter how to clean.
Oh yeah, how's it going good so far? She likes
cleaning now because she thinks it's fun, Like she gets
the swiffer. It's fun for now. Yeah, but I'm gonna
say a long that's gonna last. And I posted that
on my close friends. And this is where I think
a lot of my friends are pieces of shit, because
everyone was dming me back saying that it was misogynistic

(05:14):
that I was making a mar of vacuum. Okay, and
to me, that makes it. That's not misogynst Everyone should
know how to clean. You're a misogynistic for thinking I
did it just because she was a girl. That is true.
They got yell the nerds back in the kitchen after
she was done. Everybody should know cleaning is fun. I've
met a lot of adults. I love clean It's therapeutic.
I've met a lot of adults that don't have any

(05:35):
home training. And I don't want my kid to go
out into the world. No, like adults that don't know
to properly clean a bathroom. It's just it's odd to me.
Those are one of the things I know. But how
do you not know how to clean a bathroom? No,
you'd be surprised, Like, how do you not know how
to clean.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
The back, Like, just think about that. How do you
not know how to clean?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Period?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But how do you not know how to clean a bathroom?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Either you had dirty parents or really rich parents. I
guess it's either I don't know if there's a gray
area the it's either like you had a made or
you just had the dirtiest house ever.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, I just don't get that you don't know how
to clean. That's like, well, you do have to be
taught how to clean properly, yeah you do. But even
if you're not, like I think you just end up
picking up on how to clean, even if you had
parents that weren't like the cleanest, like as an adult,
Like I know some people who you know, growing up,
they didn't have the cleanest of houses, but now they

(06:27):
have the houses are spectacular, Like it's like wow, like
they taught themselves how to you know what I mean,
Like if they even if they weren't handed that.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It was like you pick up on that. Yeah, I
mean I don't know. My mother was very clean and
taught me how to clean, So I don't know how
that looks like if you weren't taught at it, Like
I wasn't really taught how to cook. I kind of
taught myself how to cook. I'm not great at it,
but yeah, you pick up on it. But I feel
like someone should teach you how to clean the toilet,
like just spraying the shit in there, and like people
know how to sweep. That's not cleaning, right, Yeah I don't.

(06:57):
I don't know how people don't know how to clean.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But you know, you gotta get on your hands and
knees and hit them fucking corners of.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Like the baseboards hit on the corners.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
You gotta hit them corners, hands and knees, hand with
a bowl, with a bowl of fucking pine salt and
bleach and dawn and just pass out scrubbing the corners
of the.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Floor, breathing all the fumes. Get lightheaded, crack a window.
Over the weekend, the VMAs did happen, And it wasn't
because I was on dad duty. I had literally no
interest in watching the vmmas. I thought you were gonna
come here and talk your shit. You and I have
had this Mariah argument that you made up all because
I said I wasn't familiar. I thought you didn't come

(07:39):
here talking your shit that your girl got the vanguard award,
which is very much there, and her performance was incredible.
Mariah still Mariah, even when it's not December. I thought
you didn come here a little bit more bravado.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm a terrible podcast personality because I didn't even I
didn't watch the VMA's. I didn't even know the VMAs
were going on until, like I got on Instagram last night,
and I damn sure didn't know that Mariah received anything
until you just told me.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
All right, do you think that's you being a bad
podcaster or it just being kind of over for people
caring about the VMAs, because there was a time when
we all as a family sat on the internet just
so we could commentate on the VMAs.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I think that we I don't think that the people
have stopped caring about the VMAs. I think we've aged out.
I don't think we're I mean Mariah's here. I mean
Mariah's here because they're giving her an award the same
way that they used to give back in the day.
We used to watch Diana Ross and do they get.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Award instead of Drewski hosting? That got LL cool, J
and I love ll don't get it twisted, But I
feel like they're skewing more towards own people like Steven
Tyler performed.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh wow, Well yeah, I didn't. I guess I didn't
know a.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Buster who I love always want Buster perform. But I
feel like they skewed more towards us than anybody.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
They should have advertised it better to us because I
had no idea that any of those people are performing.
I only knewoj was hosting because I looked up when
I was in Midtown.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yes, I was like, oh, oh, who Jay is hosting
the VMA's, Like that's what what has been in these boardrooms?
The reason why comedians are like no longer hosting these
types of things. I mean, Gray, I know, Shane Gellis
just did the SPIS, but that was like standard for
all award shows, not so much the VMA's but in

(09:21):
general that there was always a comedian Like why they're
not giving Drewski the bag to do like real skits
about award shows while he's hosting is beyond me? Yea,
like Drewski should be hosting this. Drewski is funny, he
can deliver, he's creative, he understands what's going on in
the industry and the culture, like I love l He's great. Go,

(09:43):
but why would he need to host why?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I mean, it's the name at this point, it's the
name ll Is. You know, he's hosted awards before.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
We live in We live in the clips society, whether
we like it or not. Do you want to push
him Oultice or yes? Yeah that's funny. Right now, the
only clip I'm seeing on YouTube VMA's twenty twenty five
is locoj opening. That's two minutes long. Go look at
what Shane Gillis ESPN monologue is for that piece. Yeah, yeah,

(10:17):
I think, but this you want to make a moment,
because that's what I mean, Award shows just by statistically
across the board, no matter what the genre is or
award show are dying the same way everything. Why in
TV world because I mean we were tuned into Netflix, Hulu.
People just aren't on TV like that, and they get

(10:37):
their content in other places. So if you want to
create these moments and create these clips and get people excited,
why are you not having more comedic stuff happening during
these shows? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
But I think even if you have somebody like a
Drew Ski hosting in VMA's, I don't know if it
does much for the for the VMA's, I don't know
if the viewership is up or not.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm saying just more so on the clip related things.
I'm not going to sit here and play Monday Morning
Quarterback and act like I know what would get ratings
with a TV network for an award show. I'm saying
just based off someone that missed the show and was
looking at the clips on YouTube, because that's that's the
world that we live in.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, it feels disconnected in my opinion. Well, the Soul
Train Awards were canceled, right, what other awards was canceled?
The BT Awards, Pop Awards, Yeah, BT Awards.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Now, And even with the BT Awards, I mean, I
know the Hip Hop Awards was where the ciphers were,
but why don't you merge those two things in? Like
the only reason people were really watching these things was
because of the ciphers, And even if you didn't see
the show, the ciphers will go crazy on YouTube, which
is a huge platform for Viacom. No matter what. I
just feel like award shows are running away from the

(11:48):
things that actually track of, Like why we are really
here for that?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I mean I think that you know it's just a
sign of the times. We see so much of these celebrities.
He's an artist daily on social media. We have so
many other performance platforms now, things like that to where
you know, a Soul Train Award or BT Hip Hop
Award or even the VMA's doesn't have the lord that

(12:14):
it once had.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, and I think it also goes back to what
we've always discussed that this new generation doesn't really have superstars.
Of course there's in the pop world. They had Sabrina
the Carpenter performed, but like we were just saying, it's
Skew's old Steven Tyler, Lady Gaga, Mariah Carey, Buster, Rhym's,
Post Malone and Jelly Roll. I mean Post I still

(12:36):
think is now getting closer to legacy. He's been out
for over a decade. There's no new superstars that at
least hip hop or R and B is gonna run.
Like I can't wait to see that. Like when Beyonce
and Kendrick were performing at the BT Awards when Lemonade
came out, like we all stopped what we were doing.
Who like what we can't wait for the little Baby performance? Like, yeah,

(12:58):
what is the word? Who does? They did their best, Like,
who could you? I could never even critique someone in
that that that bordroom of like, well I got Lady
Gaga and Steven Tyler, like all right, you did your job.
Yeah yeah, definitely they even have to like pick from
with the new Generation. All right, Travis Scott will put
on an incredible performance. But I don't know if Travis
Scott is taking his time out to go do He's

(13:21):
not without a new album or a new song. He's
trying to push because it's not that important to him
and he shouldn't be. So yeah, you should go with
the TikTok stars. Who go with the comedians music is dead,
Like just go with the go with the funny ship.
Who performed again, Ryan Carrey, Serena Carpenter, Lady Gaga, Steven Tyler,

(13:43):
uh Lowly Young, Post Malone, jelly Roll, J Balvin, DJ Snake,
Oh there you go. He ain't got they ain't got
none of us up there?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Hm?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Who who would they pick? I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Them out that does good performances.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I will say this though, I think I think Cardis
should have performed. She has an album coming out in
ten days. The Imaginary Players probably Yeah, I think that
would have went crazy. Wait, you don't think people shit.
We were at the WWE shit when she came out

(14:22):
and people liked it.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You don't you think that Cardis should perform her new
single for an upcoming album at the video musical.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
That doesn't make sense to I'm not mad at that,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I don't know if I would have wanted to see that,
though I'm.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Not mad a well, whether you wanted to see her
or not. Yeah, that's not really what we was talking about.
We were saying that she should have done it. That's
that just marketing wise, that makes sense. Okay, that's usually
what happens when people have new albums coming out.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I have liked Cardi's marketing so far, at least on socials.
I think what she was doing selling the selling her
her vinyls on two fifth with the incense and shit
like I like that type of not on two fifths selling.
It was with the blanket laid out and everything, and
was on twenty fifth Street. I don't know if it
was too fifth, but it was. It was in the
city somewhere. Can we pull it up for really?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I just I said it was niggas wasn't out there
like running down on Cardy like I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
The security was everywhere I saw on Instagram joants one
hundred twenty fifth Street. That's crazy. If she did that,
that's wild. But I mean, I think that type of
marketing is like what's kind of needed right now, especially
for her too. And like even this whole story of
like I'm a I'm a single mother and I need
to sell I need to sell my label says that

(15:36):
I need to sell these like her personality is always
her gold. So I think this has been great what
she's been doing that is one hundred and twenty fifth Street.
I think it's great with the with.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
The one hundred and twenty fifth Klanni who on and
you know she got from her the vendor next.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Door a hundred percent with the hat on. Yeah, I
think this type of stuff is is is what connects.
If you're gonna do I g ship like this is
the best way. In my opinion, I'm looking forward to
I want to hit this album though I do. I
do want to hit this project. I just want to
know if like somebody happened to be walking by and
they were like, yeah, I got cash on me. Now

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is the music on there.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
No, they probably probably just yeah, it's probably just blanks.
It's definitely just yeah, it's probably just blank, just the covers. Okay,
I'm not mad at that. Yeah, but no, it would
have been dope if there was that was really the
album and she was like it was really for sale
right there, that would have been flying.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think would have would have been cool if she
did this ship outside the garden last night. Oh yeah,
the VMAs. Like, if she did that, it wasn't like
the garden.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
It wasn't you think the VMA's was at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Damn, I getting that old that you think there's anslbs.
She was in Long Island at the USB Arena. Oh
she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, I told you didn't watch the v the garden
though it used to be No, yeah, when the VMA's
was a thing.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
But also they have the theater in the garden. Yeah,
she was in Long Time. She was well then, I
never mind CARDI because the van u u Yu USB.
You're confusing your letters like you listen, man, I' dyslexic.
Do you want me to do which I did? Love?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I did love Doja Cats performance? Though you love anything
doj Dojia is incredible. I don't I don't know how
people don't talk about Doja Doja is.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
People talk about do all the time. She's one of
the biggest or not, you're not the target audience, But yes,
talk about some underground ship, underground y'all on this Doja.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
But there the way I heard people see people talking
about the cardis and the lotto's and it's like, yo, y'all.
This Dojah is light years ahead of all of those
other artists you'll talk.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
About doj and Dojah has a different audience than the
rest of them, about more than them. But she has
two different Yes, a pop superstar.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, Dojia is incredible, She's in't like everything about Doja
Cat to me is like she's She's like she's Madonna,
She's Janet, She's Paula Abdu, She's very much Cindy Lauper.
She's fucking she's just she embodies like the eighties pop,
nineties pop. Like she is incredible. Doja Cat is incredible.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, why don't we view Nikki the same way too?
Is Nicki not a pop star? To Nicki is a
pop star? I mean, I know the answer to this question.
But and I love Doja. I think she's super talented.
But at the end of the day, she is a rapper,
like she could really rap. She can rap, she can
sing all of her music very much in hip hop,
even her pop records.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You can't know it's not she can rap and she
does rap very well, but the majority of Dojah's main
music is not traditional hip hop. Dojah is more pop
than Nikki. Nicki's pop because she's popular and she like
she makes pop.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
What's pills and poison, what's a starship?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Those are pop records. Yeah, But but Doja is more
traditional pop than Nicki.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, sure, you guys will say her last what was
her last album even labeled us Doja? Yeah, I think
her last name was rap because it was a rap album.
Remember it was rap hip hop thing. Okay, So I
guess my point still stands. And why is she not
Why is Nicki not said to be the same. But
people have been saying Nikki. People have always said that

(19:18):
Nick's a pop star.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, yeah, Nicki, he's been up, Nicky's been m Nikki
was one of the first like pop rap like superstars.
Nick's a pop star. But Nicki is a will always
be a rap star first, Yeah, Doja's star first, because
Dojah was known as a pop star first.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Y'all didn't discover that.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Okay, y'all didn't discover that Dojah could rap until like
y'all started really listening, like, oh, Dojah could rap, Whereas
Nikki came out rapping and then she turned into a
pop star.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, different times and different approaches, because one was coming
up through like smack DVD, come up DVD type thing.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
But yeah, one was in the studio with stat.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like it's yeah, one was with Fendi.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, Thojah makes dancing a thing, and like when you
make dancing and performing a thing, it helps with the
whole pop star thing.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
What do you think Nikki Safari and Will i Am
did on on Letterman? Mm hmm. That's a legendary that's
a legendary performance. That is a legendary performance. When we
don't get enough credit for that, when we don't get
enough when we enterview Safari. There's been like very few
real regrets in my life. Yeah, that's part of life.

(20:32):
You gotta live with regrets. There's one that like keeps
me up at night, and it's not doing a full
video breakdown with Safari of him standing like this for
a minute thirty Yeah to the side. Yeah, listen, we're
doing even doing what he had to do. It's part
of the performance. No, it wasn't. It was. Nobody could
ever say Nicki Minaj was a bad girlfriend. No, you're

(20:55):
with will I Am, who I've given shit lately. But
will I Am is one thousand percent. I don't need
to tell you. A fucking icon, Nicki Minaj a fucking icon.
Even at that time she was getting into her icon
setar icon. Two icons are performing fucking Letterman another icon.
You know, people have waited their whole life for David

(21:17):
Letterman to introduce you. Yeah, look at Safari getting this
ship off and she let her boyfriend which by like
they're all in this futuristic look and everything. The dance was.
Safari's in a pink T shirt and a fitted standing
like this. Yeah, he was part of what nobody could
even see.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
What if it comes to find out that Safari did
the choreography.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Face, Oh, hes gonna give him flowers.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
You're gona give him slowers this see, that's what I'm saying.
Give Safari as flowers.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Everyone watching Letterman that night was like, yeah, I've heard
of this, Nikki. You I think I've heard where I am.
Who the fuck is this guy in the pink T
shirt doing the robot? He's still sitting like this fair
you could have just came off camera, like you didn't
even need to be in front set. You think everyone
right now is watching Like damn what happens when that guy?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I guarantee, I guarantee people in the audience was like, yo,
is when is he going to get into his thing?
Like he's just standing Yeah, part of the set?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
What's this little easter egg in the back? Joshka, you
skip because I'm telling you it's like a minute forty five,
Like Safari stays like this, you have to go far
into the performance. Yeah, he's still there. We're at a minute.
Get it to your ship. Yeah, like he could have
been a dance of the whole time. We didn't need him.
Now he's going to split two icons. Nicki Minaj is

(22:36):
the greatest girlfriend of all time? Yeah, I thought, yeah,
what is Safari doing?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And he got the shirt on that you know when
the album dropping, Yeah, that's what he was supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So what number was? Well, I am on the greatest
producers of the twenty first century. So far should Nicki
Minaj the greatest female rapper of all time? Will I
am icon changed the sound of music? And then you
have Safari changed t shirt? It's not even the aesthetic

(23:12):
of this performance.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Pink Friday. He's letting you know. I bet you, I
bet you. Everybody KNEI Pink Friday was coming out though.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
How do you think he pitched this to nigga? Like
I need to know when they were in rehearsals, like
with how Safari Ni probably was like yo, she knows
Safari could dance like he could pop. No, that ain't it?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, I ain't seeing Safari nudes. I have I understand
why he was up on that stage.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, you know he's going, I'm just saying, hey, dog,
now you're gonna always win that once you say a
guy's nudes you want Like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I can't even I can't even go back and forth
with you.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I understand why he was up on that stage. I
probably would have let that nigga do anything too.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Hey man, her defense, in her defense, I've always wondered
how good Yoko Ono's pussy must have been because that's
another one. John Lennon. John Lennon got to perform with
his idol, Chuck Berry on a what was American Bandstand?
What it was? Letterman became the guy, but it was

(24:15):
the guy before that, and let Yo Yoko on there
playing in the tamer. She had a microphone. She's screaming
with Chuck Berry. H Yeah, Like how good a pussy
you gotta have where you could just let your girl
get a cow bell, tambourine a microphone when you get
to perform with your idol fire look at aw a bongo.

(24:40):
She starts screaming at one point some gas. Look at
Chuck Berry face. That's the greatest. That's like like creative rock. Yeah,

(25:02):
Like I need to know in the rehearsals, like how
John even pitched that to Chuck, Like, yeah, I'm I'm
gonna have this crazy bitch stream during the whole time.
Imagine trying to tell Will I Am and Jimmy Iveen, Yeah,
my boyfriend's gonna wear a pink T shirt and do
the robot one. David Letterman, well, shout out to.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Doja Cat and everybody else at the VMA's I don't
know how much longer the VMA's has.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But I think they're on the clock.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, yeah, always saying somebody on the clock.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think the VM is on the clock. Baby, they
ain't gonna lie. Soul Trained wards out of here. Soul
Train is probably more legendary than the VMA's correct for
sure that they got rid of the.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Soul Train awards nobody, so they then got rid of
the awards and then brought it back. Sorry, it's they
have got written of it, got rid of it before,
and then like brought it back.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, but I think VMS is on the way. I
ain't gonna lie. I'm not saying so. Music isn't created
these days, but it's not popular like ship. I remember
when Ari was tight, when Shaye butter Baby came out
and it's like wait, I made like this is made
for your award show and I'm not even getting nominated.
They don't even nominate so shit. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1 (28:37):
But shit, speaking of clocks, is I spice back on?
Did she punch back in? Here we go because you
guys were giving me my flowers? Sort of? I'll tell
you this. I still don't think her a lot of
like each other. Stop. Well, I got the record together
now right in the video she got that? Yeah, he
want that. It's a cool record. I'm not mad at

(28:59):
the record and when I'm mad at the video, but
I could tell by the chemistry they did. Nah, that
was never pieced up.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I was horny watching the video. I couldn't pay attention
to No. Really, and I don't even be liking them.
You know them poes debut, They looked great.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I didn't see the video.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
No, those those are not as pale as these two.
These two pale like.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
The records cool. I don't know for the work because
it's not for me. If the chicks like it, I
like it. If it gets ass shaking at the hook
a lounge, I'm all the way with it. I didn't
hear yet it's a better verse from Ice Spice and
I've heard in a minute. It's it's cool. Yeah, I
think I think Lotto did Ice Spice a huge favor.
But that's just what you mean by getting on the record,
by doing a record with her? Yeah, why what was

(29:42):
that a favor? I just think Lotto is far better
and bigger than Ice Spice.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
She's a better rapper. I don't know if she's bigger,
though she's bigger, you think.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
So than just having a moment sitting next to Taylor Swift,
as far as a career goes, does not make you
a bigger artist.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I don't know if I does Lotto have a bigger
record than was it?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Munch? Is that the name of it? I don't think
what was the name of that record? I don't evenmber
the name. Jy Z doesn't have a bigger record than
Ice Ice Baby, But are we comparing them? Sorry? No,
but that's it's like, just because you have one big,
huge hit doesn't funny like, I don't know if Lotto
is Lotto has a career, Ice Spice is finding moments.

(30:25):
There's a difference. No, there's a difference in that.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But I don't know if I don't know if I'm
saying it's a favor that Lotto did this verse, what.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Was it did? It definitely help Lotto as far as
a moment because they were beefing at one time. Them
coming together creates a moment for sure, But well, it
was a moment because it has a lot of moments,
Like she doesn't necessarily need to always rely on the
quick moment because she has like albums and fans. No,
I buy tickets. I'm with you on I think the best.

(30:55):
She's a far better rapper, and yeah, I think this
is this is a look for Ice Spice.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
We've Alway's been saying the clock is on Ice Spice
for a while, so that's right.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
He's just trying to force his clock to be right.
It was and broke clock is right twice though, So you.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Again, I don't want to talk about her health because
I don't know what was going on when she got skinny.
None of my business, No one here to make jokes
about it. But when she was working out. You saw
when she posted the video in front of the Eiffel
Tower and the weight was back on. I punched out
of the clock. Everyone came back. So because the weight,
it's a moment. Because she got thick again, the clock
is off. No, everyone's there for her wrapsmoll. No, I'm

(31:34):
just saying, is that you feel everyone everyone that she
wasn't lyrical Spie. She wasn't slim spice before she went
the ice. She wasn't slim Spice. Don't make me out
to be the biggest ice Spice hater, and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I just think you are the biggest ice Spice hater.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Just she was making the same record over and over again.
The clock was on. Yes, Lotto saved her here, putting
the weight back on saved her again. She has to
keep finding moments to save her while Lotto doesn't have
to do that. That's all I'm saying. I can understand
where you're coming from. I'm not arguing with you now.
Now I'm sure Ice Spice is only sitting back waiting

(32:11):
for the young thug phone called the leak where he
talks about Ice Spice. Because I'll give her another six months.
They're just trying to find moments.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Okay, they calling him Lady whistled Down. Y'all don't get
that joke, but it's very funny. The Lady whistled Down,
Young thug. Lady whistled Down. She's an anonymous writer that
we used to tell everybody business in the show a
show on Netflix that's very funny. So it's a very
popular show amongst women.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Get it. So you're calling young thug Wendy Williams basics. Basically,
they was calling him Wendy Williams too. They was calling
him Lady Whinney Williams. Yo. This young Thug ship over
the weekend was so nuts.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's something that said, Yo, they're releasing the wrong Jeffrey files.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I was fine.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I was crying when I read that these niggas on
the internet.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
He's like, where's the Epstein jail. I don't know if y'all. Yeah,
like we got he had to call somebody, Yeah, like
we got the.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Wrong Jeffrey files, but we didn't ask for these files.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
This ship, the way it's been leaking has like almost
made me a bad father.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Like I like, I like the people say leaking, like
it's an album. This is not this is not an album.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah no, this is not. We back to we, back
to the mixtape era, this blog era, this is this
is LimeWire Napster.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Shout out the Big Bank though, on getting this interview,
I thought that that made all the sense in the
world for Thug to sit down with Bank. If you're
not familiar with Bank, you know, let's just say he's
been outside in the great Atlanta area for some years
for respected uh, his relationships with pretty much anybody and
everybody in Atlanta. So I thought that that made perfect sense.

(33:52):
When when Bank announced that, you know, he had the
Thug interview.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
But before we even get to the hearts of the interview,
I want to say Big Bank conducted probably one of
the better interviews I've seen in like the last decade.
He like that was some fucking sixty minutes. Barbara Walter
shit like, he conducted that interview so fucking well with
the smallest things. I don't think anyone else on earth

(34:17):
could have done a better interview than he did with
that well, I was it was just he just got
the uncomfortable then asked the right questions. It was the
pushback where it mattered it was the account like.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Like Bank was holding he held he held Ug accountable
for his actions and things he was saying and things
like that, and you know you gotta respect that anytime
you sit down, you know, as men, and there's accountability, accountability,
you know, in the in the room, it's gonna get it,
it's gonna have a great conversation. I thought that's what
Bank did. He focused on just making sure he held
Thug accountable.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
That's all I mean. Granted, even you know, myself and
everybody when the link went up, we couldn't wait to
hear about all the calls, everything that happened to the trial.
I was locked in from the first question that Bank
asked of what's your earliest memory, Like the whole first
half of that that had nothing to do with the
case and the shit that we wanted to hear from
was like incredible to hear. I don't know, I just

(35:12):
can't say enough about how he conducted that to get
Thug into a comfortable mode to then talk about all
the shit we wanted to hear like that was some
of the coolest I thought it was in fucking therapy,
Like that was really like therapy. Questions that he started
out with that entire thing had me thinking like, damn,
what was my first memory? Like that whole part was incredible,
But we then got to the func. Shit, yeah, where

(35:34):
do we wanted to get me? He made some points. No,
I think Thug made some points, for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I think the one thing that I took from it,
you know, Thug is obviously well let's start here. If
you've ever had anybody incarcerated and call you from jail,
you know, Thug talking, you know, and I know people
are like, damn, he doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
This is what people that's locked up do.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
They call you and they just talk to Like sometimes
I have to tell someone homies like you listen, dog,
I'm not locked up with you. Stop calling me every day,
Like I don't want to talk to you every day. Nigga,
you arrested, not me, Like you literally have to say that,
because that's just the outlet of you know, especially and
I can only imagine some mighty like Thug who's being
the public figure that he is and you know, living

(36:18):
the lifestyle that he did and then not being incarcerated,
you know, and he you know, obviously knows that his
trial is is to talk of the coach at the time,
so you know, he definitely had things that you know,
he had to say and wanted to say in questions
that you know, he wanted to ask people and just
talk about things that was going on outside. So a
lot of these things that you know, these conversations that
are league doesn't surprise me at all because again, I

(36:40):
have people that are incarcerated, so I know how that goes.
With those conversations. It can go forever until you stop
and him like, nigga, I'm hanging up. You know what
I'm saying. So but I do think that you know
this this this interview, hearing some of the things Thug
said and talking to a lot of my homies that
have did jail time, and we all kind of agreed that,
you know, people giving Thug the snitch title is probably

(37:04):
incorrect because you know, a snitch you put police on people,
police get locked up, people get incarcerated because of.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Your words and things that you did. That is what
the snitch did. I don't think you can still be
a snitch and no one goes to jail.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't know about that. I don't know if anybody,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Know if Okay, nothing, So so with thug.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
He did bad though, going in the interrogation room talking
for hours. You know, definitely never supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
If you have A three or two are using this?
If you have a what three or two the file
of when you speak to the police. It depends on
what you told him. Okay, I thought, now, don't get
a twisted he did bad going in there talking for
two hours, however long he did.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You're not supposed to do that. That's not Nothing changes
saying he is an A two. But and what he's saying,
he was in there saying a bunch of bullshit. He
didn't give the police factions on things that were really happened.
I don't think nobody got arrest from anything he said.
So it's like, you know what I'm saying, like, yes,
he was in there talking to police where we're from,
you ain't supposed to do that at all. But in

(38:08):
what he said, did anybody get arrested? Did anybody face
any consequences from the law behind what he said?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
It doesn't look like.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It doesn't look like Until now we get some further
evidence of things that happened later than all of this changes,
But as of right now, it doesn't look like anything
he said was used against anybody, and anybody was incarcerated
because of the things that he sat in there and
told the police. So that giving him that because you
have to be very careful with that title, putting that

(38:36):
on somebody, you have to be very careful with that.
But don't get it twisted. Him going in there and
talking to police and interrogation room for however long he
was in there. That is a no no And anything
you can to say will be used against you in
the court of law. They tell you that as soon
as they put the cups on you. So that's a
no note. But if he's in there spitting bullshit and
nothing is real and nothing is really it's just like,

(38:57):
all right, So what is he you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
What is that? Is he giving them information or something?
I mean, we'll get to some of the thugs gaslighting
in a bit with his tweets, because another UH phone
call came out right before we recorded him telling big
thing when he said, why would you even sit with him?
And why would you say here's my number? So I
was just flirting, Yeah, that was I was keeping said

(39:25):
with a straight face, the big did you see a
Bank's face when he's I was just flirting.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I heard that. I was like, all right, man, like
what we do? What we're doing in this conversation?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Because at that point, like anything goes in interrogation room
at that point, you know, I was just flirting with him.
But I mean, listen again, I don't I'm not here
to make the rules on anything. The rules that I'm
under the impression of that used to be there, Yeah,
that would be considered some form of cooperating. But I'm
not here. I'm not here to call anyone a wrap.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Listen, listen, if you if you going in and to
that's out. You're not supposed to do that at all.
Like I know people that can win the pterrogation room
and literally laid on the floor with the sleep. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you're not supposed to see anything.
But if you in there just spitting bullshit? Is that
you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Is that ratting?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
If it's none of that shit is real? And what
you're saying, you just throwing shit at the wall and
they don't even know, like they can't even piece none
of that shit together.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It's a goal post. It depends who you're talking to, because,
like we talked off, Mike John Gotti JUNR to a
lot of people is considered a rap. He has a
three to zo two. He told the government a bunch
of lies, but he sat with the government and gave
them statements. They were all lies. No one went to jail.
But he is, yeah, you sat with the government. What
are you talking about, right? No, listen, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Listen, I'm with you. You never supposed to do that,
but I just I'm that tight on somebody. You gotta
be very careful with that. That is a very serious
title to put on somebody. But all in all, you know,
I think that you know, coming out of the interview,
like I said, we spoke last week, I don't think
any of this matters.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
If Thug puts out a.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Great record right now, a great album right now, nobody
even cares about this ship. That's just the word that
we end today. Nobody really cares about this ship.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I'm just I'm learning so many things. Like I did
find out over the weekend that if you do do
a crime with somebody, tell on them to get yourself
out of trouble. Separate them from their family and then
you go free. That is the same thing as being gay,
according to the the LGI the LGTV community, which is

(41:41):
crazy because he was a trailblazer for them, Like he's
part of that community. Oh man, Like woop, whoop, we
go to jail for life. Whoop do niggas start telling niggas?
Whoopee do nigga. I can't wait for Snelo do a
skit on this show, yo, listen. Being like Sammy the
Bull is the same as Jason Lee is the funniest

(42:06):
thing in the world to me. Like, that's the same
person if you think about it, Like what Sammy did
and how Jason was born is the same thing. Your
thug said.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I'm around I'm around gay people pretty much every day
they worked for me.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I don't have no problem with the gay community because
I knew they was gay from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, from the beginning. We said, but if you come
around me, you know, I'm saying now you switch up,
you know, not being able to trust someone that's open
about their sexuality as the truth. You can't. You can't
trust someone telling the truth. Bro, This is crazy, man,
I man, do we think Thug finally found out what
it's like to be a podcaster. I mean, he's finally

(42:45):
getting the heat that all of us have gotten. When
we say one thing about one artist, you say their name,
we got to backtrack, we got to apologize to people.
Thug should be on the Hip Hop Media List next year.
In my opinion, this has been the greatest podcast of
all time for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, this is the Jeffrey File, this is the this
is definitely going down to here.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Oh you know, you know, Chris already has that on
TV loaded up. They're editing that right now. Yeah. I mean,
I just feel like I agreed with some of the
stuff that was being leaked with. Doug was saying, I
don't know, I don't know future situations. I would never
talk about someone and how they parent. I don't know
these people whatsoever. But like everyone was outraged about I

(43:23):
thought a pretty solid point of what stop fucking with
the hose and go take care of your kids. I
don't say nobody was fighting with that. I was like, yo,
can you can you believe what you said about future?
I'm like, yeah, I can, yeah, pretty much on the
nose there. Yeah, but what I see, Yeah, I don't know.

(43:43):
Future give you an amazing father. But if I was
viewing from the cell, I was on the phone with
my manably be like, Yo, futures probably take a break
from some of the moves. Man, it's a lot of kids.
Does this do anything for.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Thugs perception coming out of this interview?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Well?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Does the interview do anything or the call? Well, we
talked last episode of how his perception was before this.
So you're asking now that this is here, now.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
That the interview she heard from Thug directly obviously away
from the phone calls that will put out I'm talking
about like and sitting down this interview with Bank and
you know talking.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
No, I don't think so. I think Thug is getting
the first lesson in what a lot of us of
this age, because Thug is probably around my age. Can
we look at how old young Thug is this era
of the internet doesn't care. So I hope Thug feels
better that he got his shit off his chest and

(44:44):
talk to somebody like Big Bank, someone who may respect
and want to convince that he is otherwise no matter
what he says in that the internet is just going
to internet and just joke, like to your point, if
there's good music, then then it'll turn Anyone explaining anything
on the Internet is just going to lead to more jokes.
So no, I don't think anything changed. It just gave

(45:05):
the timeline more ammo. Yeah, I don't think anyone that
is constantly on the Internet has a changed perspective. I
really listened because I'm old and I really wanted to hear.
But if you look at every single comment under anything,
it's just more jokes. Well, yeah, that's the Internet. Like
the Internet doesn't take anything. So so I hope he
found solace in getting his story out and convincing the

(45:28):
people that matter the most to him. But I don't
think this changes any perspective to the masses whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I'm still on the side that nobody cares. No,
of course, I'm still on that side, like nobody nobody
really cares. I mean, you know, it's a very select
few that care about anything that he said in that,
you know, on those calls or an interrogation room. Again,
I think that all of this, you know, as long
as he puts out music that people like, you know,

(45:56):
Gunna did the same thing. You know, Gunna was looked at,
he was people was kind of you know, off Gunner
for a minute, and then he went out and put
out music and you know, hit the gym got in shape.
Now this nigga doing five k runs through Central Park
or kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
He's the local hero now changing people's lives.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
He's like, you know, getting changing fucking food programs in schools.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Who is different now? Nobody? Man, it's like they brought
back critical race theory. Yeah, the music is good. Well,
all right, I'm gonna ask you the same question you
asked me after the Gunner plea. Who in Atlanta is
going to work with Thug after all these calls? Who
will be the first feature? Who will be the first producer?

(46:38):
Because that was an interesting question you asked me when
the plea came out. I was like, man, I don't
think it matters too too much. And you started breaking
down facts of how close the Atlanta music tribe is.
This could fuck Gunner's career over because producers won't work
with them features like he's outside of that. That click now,

(46:59):
which is why Atlanta has been so successful. He proved
me click for sure. Do we think after all this,
because there's way more ship on Thug as far as
Godsip been talking about other artists in this Do we
think that's gonna affect his career? Not not what fans think.
I'm talking about making musics moving forward. Yes and no,

(47:25):
I think there's certain artists that may not work with him.
But you know, I think once you get featureds from
certain artists, like the bigger names, I think that that
it doesn't matter. Du Like if he doesn't get a

(47:45):
let's say, a little Baby doesn't do a record with him,
you know.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
What I'm saying, or you know some of the other
guys from Atlanta don't want to do a record with him,
or when he gets a Dre feature, you know what
I'm saying, Like does that? Does it really matter at
that point?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I think it does because I think he may have
offended one of the main people in Atlanta that is
kind of a pillar of that community that we talk about.
No who p oh, Yeah, because I think what P
has done, which I mean coach K and P have

(48:21):
done for Atlanta in this new generation. I mean, to me,
they are the quintisential cash money. There's Rockefeller there, they
they are that and what they have done for Atlanta,
I think a lot of people rightfully so have an
allegiance to them, and we have clearly seen that P
is very, very offended by this entire situation. I think

(48:43):
that's where things get a little weird in that regard,
because I mean, Gonna obviously has that relationship and we
didn't know at that time, but landed on his feet.
I don't care if you offend future all these people.
You offended the one person that all of these people
are attack. Literally everybody has a relationship with P, and
for the most part, a very positive one. Like that's

(49:06):
where I think things could get a little weird, Like,
damn if I work with Doug now, my whole relationship
with QC could be could be compromised. Yeah, I feel
And I'm not saying that that could end a thug career.
I'm just saying to me, that was the main thing
I thought every artist he brought up, I was like, man,
people get over gossip. But once he started putting up
tweets and ig stories and all this shit, Yeah, I

(49:28):
think I think he feels a way it would look
weird to the artists that he either has signed managed
has a relationship with, Like He's Atlanta for real.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
He feels a way, and he has a right to
feel some way. He's absolutely in the right to feel
some way. But I'm also on the side of you knows,
as grown men, you have a conversation and you know,
you put shit to the side, and you know, you
again hold yourself accountable, which is what I think Bank
did with this interview with Doug. I mean, I see

(49:59):
space for for Thug and Peter sit down at.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Some point or get on their phone and have a conversation,
and I don't want to see, you know, I think
there's room for that. I think there's room their unity
down there.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, I mean, I hope it doesn't. That's that's what
you know, made Atlanta what it is was the unity.
It was the fact that all of these guys, for
the most part, you had obviously people in the city
that didn't really fuck with each other, but that's anywhere
you go. But for the most part, Atlanta has always
stuck together, always supported each other. You know, this artist
has a video. Shoot, I'm pulling up. I'm in the video,

(50:32):
you know whatever, just to support Atlanta. But I think
coming out of this, you know, I think there's a
bigger conversation to have, and I love what Banking and
Thug were able to sit down and do and have
a conversation and just you know, have an honest conversation.
But I do think there's a bigger conversation to have as.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Far as you know, just.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
The street culture and you know, music culture and things
like that and sometimes blending, the blending the two is.
We always know it's not a good idea to blending,
to to blend business and street culture, but that's part
of it. That's been part of it since the inception
of him, right, but all we had a point now
where we see finally like yo, we need to have

(51:13):
this conversation of listen, man, let's we're doing this to
get away from that, you know what I mean, Let's
not blended too. Let's not have an overlap of the
streets and the music. Because again, when shit like this happens,
what comes. Everybody's losing. Niggas is going to jail, niggas
is dying. Kids is out here with no fathers.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
It's like it's this cycle that we keep perpetuating. It's like, Yo,
at some point we have to say, all right, listen,
we control this. We have the control to say this stops.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
We're not doing this.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
If you're doing music, stay over here, do music, don't
get involved in none of this shit. I think there's
more conversations to be had away from cameras and mic.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
So I'm not talking a good representation of that of
whether it be there artists or founder staff, et cetera.
I don't know when you lose that element to it.
Now we're just in corporate modes. Like now we've lost
and I'm not saying that all hip hop is just
authentic street ship, but once you lose that, then you've
you've lost any real connection to what's actually happening. If corporate,

(52:17):
If it's all corporate, then we're no.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
But what there's plenty of artists that are successful that
came from the streets that once you know, this music
thing or entertainment became a real thing, completely left that shop.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh no, no, no, for sure, I thought you were
saying like that element just needs to be taken away
of No.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
No, no, I'm saying, once you're in this, once you are,
now it's entertainer.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Transition to get completely let me say, that's where you
see to me.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Like, get away from that, because again, once it once
it all falls. Yeah, then it's like you know what
I mean, like, all right, we're back to this ship again.
So you know, I do think that there's more conversations
to be had, and I think you know this, this
this interview with Bank was a was a great start.
I think Thug obviously has a lot of conversations that
he has to have with people in private to kind
of like, you know, make a lot of the things

(53:01):
that we've heard, right, a lot of people were offended
by things that we all heard. And you know, I
think that you know, he understands that and he has
to again count hold yourself accountable and then have those
conversations and if you know, you can move forward with some.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Of these people and the relationship is mended. Great. If not,
you got to accept that as well. I mean, I
really want to ask Samars the hard hitting question because
she speaks for all women. If I know a huge
RICO is about to come debt sorry to take my
birth control that the Feds. Yeah, If I know a
RICO is coming down, you're about to raid right now.

(53:35):
I told him, Oh, y'all, I put it on Josh.
It's fine. If I know a crazy case is coming
where I may do life. I can't hit up like
one of my my hoes right before the Feds raid.
I can't have like one of my little chicks before
I know they're coming. That's cheating. You have a girlfriend, yeah, yeah,
that's cheating, but other rico like you got to add

(53:55):
the rico in. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
So you're about to leave me for all these this time,
and the first thing you think is damn that, let
me spend time with my bitch.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Let me go spend time with somebody else. You have
to understand what the system has done and what that
has done to not only thug psyche but millions and
millions and millions of black men around the world. How
do you understand? I don't. I'm just being empathetic. I'm
just outside lens struggle. I can see where, Hey, the

(54:23):
system is about to fuck me like it's fucked everybody
before me. So I'm gonna go fuck this girl. Okay, Okay.
I feel like that's a if you're facing life, I
feel like your girl should give you, like just a
little bit of grace because I don't know once they come,
if I'm ever getting out, because I'm definitely not getting bail.
So I'm in here until this trial ends and ended

(54:45):
up being the longest trial in Georgia history. Yeah, if
he's facing life like you gotta and you can come
over to But I'm fucking like, I mean, do we
think that you know his girl kind of like assumed
he was in there there, you know, having sex with
one of the CEOs, because we all know inmates have
sex with Well no, this this was the day before

(55:06):
I think the FEDS came. He had he had a
chick in his condo, right, this is what it was
that it came out. Oh yeah, no, that's cheating. I
can't throw no, no, no, no, I'm not saying it's
not cheating. I'm saying, is there a little bit of grace?
Because I'm sure thug knew like the clock was ticking, you.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Know when grace is given out. Grace is given out
when you're honest. If I have to find out from
elite jail call years later that you lied to me
when I asked you, why does girl post any your condo?
You saying that it's old, and come to find out
that she was two days before you got locked up.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
But you also have to understand I'm already I've been
in jail, so my mind is trained to deceive and survive.
It's survival mode. I'm trying to spend the FEDS shit.
I'm in the day room. Yeah, there's a lot of
my mind is already in the world of deception because
I've been within these walls that are private prisons. I
don't know if you want to go down that rabbit hole.

(55:55):
Mm hmm. Yeah, of course I lied, bringing to a lie.
The system taught me to lie. Mm.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
So just you think that she's wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
She wasn't in the system. She was at Saint John's.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Okay, Well, thug tweeted my baby. I was wrong, and
I'm sorry for what I push you through. You deserve
better for me. Thank you for everything, and I will
do anything to make this work. You showed me what
love is and I hope I haven't lost you forever.
Everybody leaves her, Everybody leave her out of this.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Please?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
How do we want us to leave her out of this?
She's in this, okay, Everybody leave her out of this.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Please.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
She's an innocent girl and it feels bad about all
of this. Please give her peace.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
How are you saying please give her peace? When you
don't raising hell, you ain't giving her piece.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I've never said anything wrong or did anything wrong with
Mariata scientists.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
What the Internet, She's great.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
The internet is on her ass because on some of
these calls she was giggling and laughing, the biggest one
being the call that leaked where he was calling Galorila
ugly and people.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Okay, so women are caddy. We don't know that already.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Yeah, but it doesn't mean that when like, for example,
we all say shit when you got no business saying
or that we wouldn't want other people to hear. And
so we can all understand that we all do that,
but when it comes out, we can't expect other people
not to look at us like.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Bitch, Like oh no, for sure, like the real probably
would never fuck with Mariah again if she if she
ever did.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
They were they were cool, they like I think they
She brought.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It out on the show. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I don't think I didn't know. I didn't know that, Yeah,
because I was going to say, like, right, I feel
like there should be some grace given between a couple
having a private, key key type conversation. But I didn't
know that they like had a relationship at that point
you can't.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
So the internet is picking out like you know, they're
coming from Mariah saying she's a pick me because like
she has said, Mariah has said something like, well, they
said Glorilla looked like Rihanna, and like you know what
I'm saying, like just little ship. So she's under fire
right now too.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
When Mariah said that, they said, when when Thug.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Was talking already said yeah, they said, they said she
looked like Rihanna.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's what Mariah said, not glurially, not fucking on no more.
It's quiet if she was doing that on the call.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yeah, so I tweet you also think that, Sorry, I
tweeted something that I got the men in my DMS
calling me all types of lion whoores because I said,
I don't like I don't like men that I would
never want to date a man that will sit on
a phone and cackle about a woman's looks. You can
agree that a woman is unattractive, but like sitting on
the phone and cackling and like talking bad on a
woman's looks, that's extremely unattractive to me. And I don't

(58:28):
date men who did that. They're like, you're lying and
I'm like, just because you bitch made don't mean a
niggas I fuck with is. I don't deal, Like like
I don't deal. Even if I was to call my
man to be talking about a bitch, he was just
like mm hmm, like I nah, I hear.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
You like niggas not.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I was like, yeah, and that bitch, this, this, this,
like that's women.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I completely agree with your sentiment on that. I have
no notes. I completely agree with everything you said. But
look at it this way. What's the other side of
that coin. You can't tell your girl that you think
another girl's cute? Why can you? So now you got
to like overcompensate and be like all them bitches ugly.
You're the only pretty girl.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
But even if you say that, I don't think that's bad.
I don't think that's as bad as what Doug was doing.
Like if you your girls were like yeah, no, no,
but yeah no, they don't know none of them better
than you, baby.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I don't think that that's yeah that but not every
girl is like you. Demeris that swings both ways?

Speaker 4 (59:20):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (59:21):
It ain't even about swinging both ways. It ain't even
about swinging both ways. I got home girls as straight
as a fucking arrow, and they still don't want to
sit there and have that's insecure.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
That's something to do with being straight. That's insecure a
lot of women.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
And I'm not calling the riot itself. I'm saying bitches
who would expect their man. Like when Rory said we
can't give other women a compliment on the phone with
our girl, I think that's extremely insecure.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
For sure, Like the fun you think you're the only
good look at bitch on this planet. That's what you're
supposed to tell it.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Though, No, don't tell me that because now you now
you lying, now me and you both know we insecure
women want you to lie to them.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Okay, mostly secure. That's fun, insane. Yeah, So I just
feel like maybe there needs to be more context into this.
I'm not putting anything on Mariah the scientists because we
don't know these people, but I don't know what their
relationship is. Where sometimes if a girl gets brought up,

(01:00:17):
she trash because you can't say she's okay, let alone beautiful,
so you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Just you know, ugly as fuck, saying she had a
long ass, bullshit ass wig, goddamn big ass, had big mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I would not pursue her like at all that ship,
ain't you know?

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I take back every point at yourself. I take it
all back and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Then and then Glow responded, it was like, mind you
just the same nigga blowing my phone up to ask
what color my eyes is? Laugh my ass off?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
That's what real m. That's why. That's why I said, thug,
welcome to podcasting. You can't talk shit if you got
a little some demons in your closet. You can't talk
about certain peace. Yea freeze, we'll pull up a deal
like he was just in my DMS. He'd be like
every girl say that, and then you see the DM

(01:01:06):
and it's like, damn all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
You know the crazy part? You know how many more
phone calls are left?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
That ain't even the first weekend, Chail. This ain't even
the longest trial, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
This is we're gonna hear some crazy shit like I'm
talking about we were about to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
They gonna turn it up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
They're gonna be all right, you know what, like he
didn't do this interview with bank cool niggas is like, yo,
thug is heard he lost his friends. Cool, let me
show you that he was never none of your friends.
They're about to when them tapes drop. Oh, whoever is leaking? Bank,
you got about seven more interviews you're gonna have to do.
But wait till they dropped the interview with him told
my bank. That's when when the government see that he

(01:01:50):
got an interview with what we think he's gonna be.
Thug saying like bank to your podcast. Oh my god's
pray that ass podcast. Bank shout up when he when
they dropped them tapes, Oh my god, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I know they have more, just based off how they
spaced them out. It's not like the way that everything
just dropped like they leaked one or they hatch one
email and then all of the drop. Listen, they're spacing
these things out strategically, bro. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
One thing we can be sure of is every day
that thug was in that jail, he was on that phone.
That's how many tapes we got left born.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Tapes we got. Oh my god, Yeah, it's gonna be
it's gonna get bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I think it's gonna get a lot worse now now
that he's trying to, like, you know, take accountability, and
which is great. You know we were given we give
him grace there. That's great that he did that, But
like I think that the you know, the government is
seeing that and they're like, oh, so y'all think that,
you know, he's stand up accountable guy. Okay, well let
me tell you. Let's continue to show y'all what he
thinks about all of y'all. And I think they're gonna
continue to put put these audios, these records.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
At this point, I don't even think it's the government.
I think it's just somebody doing their reporter duty and
cost the government.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
There's definitely the government. They want to They want to
ruin his image as much as they can. They wanted
to keep them in cars, ready for life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
And you know what, we saw the behind the scenes
moves of the prosecutor. This was their case to get
them to the next level, get down to Rudy Giuliani
with the mob. Like these celebrity cases make people's careers.
Everyone switched their job to try to get on this ship,
right and now they look crazy. So I'm not mad
at it, But I will say the bank interview wasn't

(01:03:24):
the reason that convinced me that thug is not a rat.
It was his tweet this morning where I was like,
he was probably spinning the police because they think he's
spinning me right now. Times like these is when my
loved ones are supposed to look at the good I
did towards them, not the ugly, and then then the ugly,
then the ugly. All right, but now hold on with

(01:03:44):
the heart emoji that's been broken, like he's this is
the most gas lightings ship he those police. I really
believe he was flirting when he gave that cop that number.
This is a gas lighter. This was one of those
things where this is a gaslight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
The spelling of the word makes all the difference. It's
supposed to be then or then, Because if he's saying
they're supposed to look at the good I did towards
them than the ugly, that's a whole different thing. But
if you say they supposed to look at the good
and then look at the ugly, it's like, damn, that's
some gaslight shit. But I think he meant to say
van a lot of niggas. Then then there there that'd

(01:04:20):
be kicking nigga's asses. So I think he meant to
say the good I did towards them than the ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Look more at the good I did towards them than
the ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
That's what he added. More that would make sense. I
actually think this is grammatically correct through what he was
trying to get across. If he said more, I'd be
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
So he's saying, look at the good ideas, then go
and look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Then go look at me cheating like think about think
about when I said you're my baby death, I said,
I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Depending on which one it is, it could either be
he's super gas lighting right now or he just made
a grammatical you know more error.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
When have you ever seen someone seriously use that emodi? No,
you really hurt when you go find that one. I've
never find me one person. I don't even I don't know.
I've never used the I've never used it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, I've never used that broken hot again, noless not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
He tweeted that this one at six thirty this thirty
in the morning. He didn't go this like thug, ain't
sleep man. Mariah six thirty three, Yo, six thirty three.
You let that fly?

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Yeah, Mariah. She they was on the phone the whole
night and she just kept asking, tell me why you
did that ship. Yeah, he heard No, I didn't know
what I need to know why you did that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Nigga said that Nigga tweeted flaws in All last night.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Yo, I told somebody he said that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
He said, Yeah, Mariah must have answered the phone tweeting
flaws and All.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Is she don't have a Twitter? Smart? Smart for whole?
He lost the girl? That do we even got social media? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I think she got rid of her social media when
they was on her ass for supporting Tory. I think
she got rid of her social media a long time ago.
We're her Twitter A long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
We had one of the greatest tweeters of all time
in this very studio, Thank you you as well. Where
do we rank flaws and All compared to offset tweeting
y'all won? Yeah, because I think the thug in the
last forty eight hours may have surpassed Offset of the
last ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Like he's getting close to Meek territory. Flaws and All
with a heart emode. Chapter ended with the heart emode.
You that Nigga won his bitch matt Dog And wait
did the heart? Did the heart get wounded before?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
After? Is that him saying his heart as whole? Now?

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
No, that was the heart wounded? Is this morning? So
now that was yesterday? Can we look at the time
for flaws and all yesterday? Okay? Wow, all right, so
yesterday evening his heart was was full and that was hurt.
Now was mended? Is broken? First of all, you cheating
on your girl and your heart being broken and bandaged up? Bro,

(01:06:56):
niggas is so he spun the I don't think he's
a wreck. I really think he was spending the bro.
This is crazy. Somebody had tweeted.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Somebody had tweeted, yo, Uh thug did that whole in
If you're talking about how gun and not loyal, gunn
is supposed to stand by him this, this, this, this
and that, but he s won't stop cheating on his bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
And I'm like, niggas be like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
You want a nigga stay loyal to you do everything
for you was out here calling him a rat and everything.
You still like, Yo, he ain't send me no money,
But you can't keep your dick between your legs. You
have got to stay having no internet laughing at your bitch.
Come on now, don't preach me. Loyalty, loyal to the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
But and they girl a dude would cuddle with loyalty
tattooed on his chest with a side bitch laying on
the loyalty tattoo, like we know what type of time
it is with that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, it's fucked up, but it's real, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
I'm just being honest. Yeah, no, it's real. It's real.
I think that you know and I'm still you're wrong,
Like I'm not judging any but yet. I Doug is
young man. He's young.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
He's a young rich artist from Atlanta. I'm not judging
cheating years old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
That's young. Thirty four is young. I've made dozens and
dozens and let's not even count them mistakes in my thirties.
My excuse would never be that I'm young. I made them.
That needs to be a kound of Like, I'm not
judgings those accountability.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I'm never I'm not saying that that's an excuse. I'm
just saying, thug is young, he's just turned thirty four. Like,
I don't expect no crazy loyalty from no fucking when
it comes to this woman from a thirty four year
old nigga from Atlanta. They got money and is in
that lifestyle like you think I expect that man to
be like, nah, I'm not fucking under these bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
What what are we told?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I don't expect anything from anybody, but that doesn't Being
young is not an excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I mean it's one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Is for thirty three year old guy to be running
around the streets of Atlanta with a bunch of money,
I don't expect him to be loyal to his girlfriend,
Like he got a bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Of beauty to him. Like, to me, that's the access
he has, not his age, because I think there's probably
fifty year olds with money and access on the him,
wives in particular him, okay like him, Yeah, that's like
I don't expect no loyalty from him, Like yeah, that's
part of his lifestyle. Women, it's rock star shit drugs,

(01:09:20):
So don't have a girlfriend. Nobody put a gun to yet,
very true. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
As we sure we'll find a phone call where he
says someone put a gun to someone's et. I'm with
you on that. I'm with you on that. Then be single.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I'm just saying like when you look at everything, it's
like I don't expect anything else, Like yeah, he's out
there having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
You know why a new thug was bored? He said, uh,
Andre three thousand, never put anyone on. That's how I
just know you just you just bored, and you're just
bored in the jail. I can't say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Anything you say, you know, you look at them. It's
very specific to the type of person, their lifestyle. You know,
he doesn't heat, he doesn't recognize on hundred two thousand
of way you may recognize them, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
And a lot of people from Atlanta don't. A lot
of people from Atlanta have futures. The greatest artists out
of Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Well, who you want to say that Three Stacks and
Dungeon family like put the entire city on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I would, well, what do you consider putting on? Because
that was a conversation that I saw people having. Are
you leading by example and opening doors or are you
doing the Drake literally doors down for the south? Okay,
so that's what I'm asking. Do you consider putting on
opening doors and creating a lane or do you consider
putting on the drakeway? Taking someone, putting them on a song,

(01:10:40):
or saying, hey, people listen to this person. They're hot,
Which one do you consider putting on?

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Both those are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Both different variations of, you know, pulling people up from
your city and your area and giving them a look
that they might not have, making them a party, of
putting them on your platform that you've built and amplifying
their talent in there. There are I think that outcasts, Definitely,
I don't. That's not even a question. If you don't
know that you're you just don't have the information on outcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
That's not even I would say probably Gucci, if you're
going by signed put on like Gucci probably put on
more people in Atlanta than any artists if you're counting
that way. But do you think anyone would be like
yo Coolhirk never put anyone on like yo cool Herk
never signed an artist and stamped it and was like
nah he started this. Like that's where it's just stupid

(01:11:32):
to me, Like what Dungeon Family did ship if you
go look not to say that Three Stacks put Future on,
but their click with Rico is Future's cousin. Future is
part of Dungeon family, like three Stacks talks about Future
being in the Dungeon in the basement of their crib,
like he put the entire even it's not even like

(01:11:55):
and he was actually fed up about that though, is
even I think it was at Fif's funeral when three
Stack spoke and he complimented, he thought, the whole audience
study is about the dish young thug and he was like,
not thug, Like these guys create the greatest melodies. Like
he was so shit. He gave thug averse like he
he spoke when everyone thought the real rap community wanted

(01:12:16):
Andre three thousand to hate the New Atlanta, he champion
the new He was like, Doug and Future are the ones,
like everyone was waiting for three Stacks. Y know, they're
not lyrical. Now he was like, yo, these guys are nice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
That's not who he is. He would never do nothing
like that. So, I mean, I just thought that was
but you're bored and you're in jail and talking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
We got to wait for the next you know, ya thought,
yall thought.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
This ship is just getting started, man, because you got
to again, how long was he incarcerated and we know
he was on that phone every day, so the audio
is unlimited of you know, the files that they got
from his his jail call.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
So I mean, we'll have the way you see ship,
you would have to have my my jail call if
I found out that you added another last name to
my kid speaking of future. Oh you're so ridiculous. How
am I ridiculous?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
First of all, he wouldn't have to find out because
Sierra has full custody of her kids, so you I'm
sure she told him that it was happening. I'm sure
it didn't. And first of all, been happened. It came
out a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Source closer Sierra, which is probably serious source. It was
came happened.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
That happened a while ago. We're just now privy to it.
But that happened a while ago, and that it was
just added honest, Not that it was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
An Instagram name. It's not a she didn't show a
legal ID, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
But I think no, I think it's official that like
that his name his last name has Wolfson in it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Oh Na, But see I did?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Okay you fighting just to fight? We popped casting right now?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Who's podcast you are? We podcast bottom of if you
heals Heart.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
He's a father, okay, fucking crazy Okay, he's an active father.
He has he takes if anybody was gonna have full
custody of amara.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
It would be you. I don't like I don't even
like the term active father because I'm like, no, I'm
a father, Okay, you're a father.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
That baby lives twenty four to seven with his stepdad
and has since he was one years old. So why
is it not okay for him to add the name
on be adopted by his stepdad and add the name
on what's wrong with that adopted?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
He he got two parents? What do you need people adopt?
You can still get adopted even when you I know
there's Those are the videos that made me cry the most.
But it's not the same circumstance of two parents that
are living.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Why isn't it if one isn't one is taking full
care of him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
That's his dad, bro. I don't know if again, this
is other people's kids that we don't even know about
about this if little future calls uh russell dad, no,
I mean I get the step dad. I think stepdads
are important, think it's healthy for that entire thing. But
adding the last name typically only happens when the father

(01:15:07):
has either passed away or is completely absent, Like, you
don't even know what that motherfucker is. We tried twenty three.
I mean, we tried everything to find this that's changing
the last name. She did not change it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
She added one on because something that people brought one up,
and again we don't know these people's speculation. Something that
people brought up is the fact that everybody else in
the household has the same last name, his brothers, his sisters, whatever,
and he.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Does seventy five brothers and sisters were different last name.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Okay, but that's not his immediate family, Rory.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
So she added Wilson his immediate families. She added Wilson on. Okay,
so he still has his dad's name. Yes, there's literally
nothing wrong with that. There's little Oh sure, No, I
think outside looking in it's a very healthy co parenting
situation with what they're doing. I'm just I'm saying, okay,
so weigh another last name is being added. He still

(01:16:01):
has futures last like word were Okay, you still have futures.
Last name he just added to Wolfson. Okay. Respect people have.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Been people have been talking about that dynamic since that. Babe,
I'm wanna say, some real ignorance say it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
The same way with these rappers. After we find out
some ship about them, we can't really like respect their
lyrics talk about the cold thing. If I ever hear
Future rapping ounce of a violent lyric, I don't believe you.
Everybody dying, You're just everybody is dying. You're ridiculous. The

(01:16:38):
mom is married, she's she's married to congrats. That's amazing
what they got to do with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
My son has full custody of her child, full full custody.
You know what full custody is. I okay, that means
I don't even got to ask if his I don't
even ask his daddy to take him out of the country.
I have full custody of my kids because I'm the
only one taking care of this motherfucker. You no longer
have a say you keep speaking from an active dad's perspective.
If you're speaking from this perceptive of an act, that's okay.
So then you can't speak on that situation period.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I'm asking you because I don't know Future is not
active at.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
I'm sure he has a relationship with his kid, But
when another one, when you give the mother full custody,
you know what that means.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
You know what. There's plenty of active fathers, real fathers
where the mother has full custody though that's usually joint.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
That's usually joint custody that they usually have joint custody.
Full custody is not just I live with you full
time and I get and they get the multi custody.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
They have joint custody legally, m that's what this is
A way AI be wrong sometimes but.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
The future but some lives primarily with Sierra. When it
says what is co parenting like for you?

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
When somebody I remember that interview, somebody asked Sierra at
Sierra just started laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
See I don't know what that. I hate when women
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Because laugh Sierra answer talk now laugh you can laugh,
but then like answer the question.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
But I think I think Sierra was trying to to
be respectful that's possible and try to stay away from
mess when they asked, I respect that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, she definitely does a great job of that. She
doesn't she doesn't end up in a lot of mess.
But yeah, I mean I think they have joint custody.
She's never prevented her son from seeing his dad like you,
but that is but again, again I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
The source came out and said Sieric got full of custody,
and I don't sources like that though.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Usually just polished.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Wilson is thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, he's young. Remember he's young. He's young. He's he's
considered a dinosaur in the NFL. It's like, what's this
old fuck going to retire? Thirty four? He's younger than me.
It's crazy, right, I hate getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
I thought he got drafted. Oh he's thirty six. That's
still I thought he thought. I thought I thought he
got drafted at thirty six. Really, I thought Russell Wilson
was closer to forty than thirty. I thought he was
way closer to forty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Than thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Sierra's thirty nine. He's thirty six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Okay, Sierra's thirty nine. That makes sense? Wow, okay, do
we hove an apology for what future? Got got real
bent out of shape with that that bar and killed
jay z. It appeared to be some prophecy there. Yeah,
that right, he got you crashed out and it was

(01:19:19):
it was right. Well, I mean I don't, I mean,
whatever's healthier for the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yeah, And if listen, Russell Wilson stepped up, you know,
he obviously Sierra obviously married, so you know, Sierra wants
to give her son, you know, the last name of
Wilson added to Wilburn.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
So be it. Man, as long as as long as
the you know, as long as the child is raised
will love. And it looks like he is. It looks
like all right, But which one goes last? I think
Wilson is that? Then?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Well, yeah, Wilson, because the Sierra's last name now is
Wilson as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Nah, he mean, nah, you got it. Gotta be Wilson Wilburn.
If we're going to add this into the mix, at
least my last name needs to be the last one. Okay,
I mean, if that's how you feel, you know, you
you're a real dad. I can't argue with you on that,
you know, I mean, so what I mean? And ship
the way the way we see Russell playing with future,

(01:20:15):
like and we know the Future is a tall guy
that looks like he comes from a great gene pool.
Little Future could make the league. What happens when will
Burn Wilson is on the back of the jersey like
that's gonna fly off the stands mm hmm, yeah, well
it's gonna fly off the stand because of the Wilson
or what happens when and who is stepdad? But what
happens if Sierra does like a chair choreography dance with

(01:20:39):
her son's jersey and it just says Wilson on the back,
Well that's her last name. No, but it's his jersey.
She's wearing her her son's jersey. Okay, everyone's doing I
feel like, listen, man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Just think that completely ego driven. It's so ego driven. Like,
that's completely ego driven?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
What is ego driven? Every I'm of course I'm joking around,
but like, what is ego driven with it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
That's not ego driven? You don't think that you worrying
about yo, my son's last name when you are not
there every day with your son.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Somebody else is you're that word? My name is my name.
My name has my my daddy's blood on it, like
my daddy's blood on it. Nothing is more important than
your last name, your legacy, your family. Yes, it doesn't
be more important than your last name, your legacy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
What about your son that you don't have full time,
that you'd rather run around your talk?

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
You and I are talking. Future is not in the room.
I don't know Future. I don't know what he does
with Son. I'm telling you why you think I think
that would be crazy? Yeah, that's nuts to me. And
first of all, I'm also someone that was fine, like
even with Kia. If you want to hyphen it that
ship and say Jacob Fair, I'm fine with that. But
adding somebody else in the mix with a name, No,
the name means something.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Yeah, it means something. The person that's sit up there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Rate, I got to attach to you like an idiot
at fourteen years old, my family crest because that's just
what you did because you didn't like I forget my
last name for some reason. But yeah, that shit is
very much important.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Is your last name not important to you? And it's
still there exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Like like I's just the confusion, Like the confusion is
so crazy. Peach said, you can prevent that by just
like being a good dad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I'm saying future is not in this room. We don't
know him. I'm talking you and I like to me, yes,
I would have okay, but what I'm saying and we
also don't know. I don't put anything on Sierra. I'm
sure there's from plenty of times where there's been women
that have held their child away from the father because
they've got in a new relationship. Like, let's not act
like all women are the most amazing mothers and don't
use their kid as a weapon. Okay, but we weren't

(01:22:30):
talking about that. We were not in a future situation.
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
They're not work with their child, so I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
I don't know. That's why I was saying off with
Peage said you could just be a good father, and
I'm saying, there's also women that have had children with
good fathers that they keep away from their kid get
a new relationship. I'm gonna just spite you and add
this last name here, like let's not act like that
doesn't exist. For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Absolutely yeah, But now, like to me, playing with last
names is like when people when people say that, it's
just like, yes, there are sure there's women that are
just so upset and they just you know, you're such
a good dad, but they just want to keep the
baby away from you. But let's be honest, how often
does that really happen? You're really a great dad, but
they want to keep the baby away from you. They
want to keep their kid. Twenty four to seven and
be a single mom and had his bad motherfucker living

(01:23:14):
in this house with me twenty four to seven. But
you're such a great dad, they won't give them to you.
How often do you like that really happens.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Let's talk about the rapper from Atlanta that put nobody
on his verse on Donda Andre three thousand. Hey, miss Donda,
can you ask my father if he felt insecured that
he did in my last name? My mama probably did
it out of spite. It happens all the time, Like
what do we He literally rapped about a healthy relationship
of just young people having a kid and out of

(01:23:41):
spite because she was in her feelings and a young
lady that didn't know what she was doing was mad
at the dad. His dad's last name is not Benjamin,
that's his mother's last name. Okay, but that probably did
it out of spite. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
We're talking about him having his mother's last name, not
another man's last name, or keeping away from keeping the
kid away from his dad.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
We're talking about a last name. I'm saying, people, not
just women, do things out of spite, and the last
name is a big thing. Yes, Oh, but that was
a different conversation. I'm purposely giving my son my last
name even though my father is active right here. But
she's doing it out of spite, but because they are

(01:24:19):
in a rocky relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Okay, just because Andre said that on a song also
does not mean that that's just that. Because also, if
we're not if we're not married, why does my son
have your last name? And not mind why does your
Why is your last name more important that my son
who I pushed out of my pussy should have a
different last name than me because of misogyny.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Exactly cool, yeah, but exactly Andre two thousand didn't say
okay because the world has been misogynistic since the day
of time. He said, she probably did that in fie. Yeah,
because you know, I'm with you. That's why I even
I even said to kid, if you want to do
the hyphenish shit, Like there was one kid in my
school that had the hyphenic thing, and we all thought
he was a fucking weirdo. But you know that kid
usually ends up weird that has the hyphen But I'm

(01:24:58):
here for the hyphen Yeah, I know I'm not the
kid with the hyphen ends up a little weird.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
It's very I feel like we could find out. I
feel like it's a study on that somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
I feel like but because I do agree that a
lot of that is based off ancient misogyny where the
father just the last name goes to the kid. I
always here for the Hysen kid was like, noa Marsha,
just have your last name. But I was. I was
open to it. I was definitely not against it at all.
My kid will have a hyphen whether I'm married. I

(01:25:30):
respect that, matter of fact, I don't know if I'm
gonna have more kids will have a hyphen whether I'm
married or not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
My kids, even if I get married, my name, my
last name will be hyphenated. So my last name means
a lot to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
A lot to me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I never said last names don't matter, Rory, you're being
a t on purpose. I never said last names didn't matter.
My last name means a lot to me. So I'm
hyphenating regardless. But I've dealt with men that were like,
I'm not with that, and I was didnt plan on
marrying you anyway, but some men don't like that, which
is just so it's all ego based in me, Like
when my kid will have my last name. Yeah, so
will mine. It will have my last name too. My

(01:26:05):
grandfather put a name on my last name and so
to his parents. So like, yeah, my ship means a
lot to me. It.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yeah, I don't know if I have more kids. Most
of my cousins are so I have a girl, so
like the pharaoh legacy, at least in this part of
the tree, like may end. So yeah, Amara, you hyphen
in that ship exactly. I just swear I'm at with it.
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So I had a friend from fourth grade, I mean,
elementary school, all the way up to our late twenties,
and last year she graduated from this program and I
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to date her cousin and we fell off pretty bad,
and it was just seeing her whole family, which I

(01:29:58):
used to be close with, and you know, my already
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(01:30:20):
if she felt like very hurt that I didn't go
to her party, but she didn't go to my wedding.
And we're still like on social media, but we really
haven't spoken in like a year and my baby showers
coming up, and I don't know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Is it wrong that I don't invite her?

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Or should I invite her?

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
Am I right for not inviting her? Because we still
have like a circle of friends, but we me and
her just don't speak. So I just need advice, like
should I just really detach myself?

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Like what should I do? Don't invite me?

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
It's given that y'all not friends, like you gonna hang
out of a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
I feel like you could probably, And it's not like
they're not friends because of beef, because I think some
people think that out grow each other.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Yeah, used to outgrow each other.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
It's not like a something happened, like somebody said something
or it's just one of those things where you just,
you know, life just takes you in different directions.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
We don't speak as much. You know, she didn't come
to your wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
I don't see why she would come to your baby shower.
I think that that's kind of like hand in hand, like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah, so you know, I mean, did she have a
reason why she didn't show up to the wedding?

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
She said, Well, I mean she assumes that it's because
the other one didn't show up to like her graduation.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Party or whatever. I mean, she said that they're all
in the same circle of friends. I mean, I'm not
saying be chatty patty with everything, but I would talk
to some people in your circle that are still close
with her and get a temperature check, like, hey, what
happened with the wedding? Was it because of the graduation?
Would it be weird if I didn't like, I would
ask the circle of friends you're in that are still

(01:31:54):
close with her. No, yeah, that would be the people
I would Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I would say, yeah, ask them if you're obviously here
and asking us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
My my answer is nah, don't invite her. Yeah, I
mean I don't think you need to. To be quite honest,
skip the wedding, and I mean, shit, maybe you saved
two hundred dollars on a plate, like maybe it was
for the better that she didn't show baby shower, no wedding.
Oh hey, you pay per plate. But yeah, I would
I would ask, said they've charged two of hours to
play for a baby shower. Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I maybe she's like everybody cook something and bring it like,
I ain't know what it's doing up.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
If we don't have if we don't have this type
of friendship where you can call me sorry and ask
me these questions. Why would I show up to you
something a wedding or baby shower where I have to pay.
I have to pay for this, I have to pay,
I have to get you a gift, I have to
get addressed after I'm spending money on somebody, and you
ain't even really my friend for real because you can't
even call me and ask me what the fuck the
issue is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
I'm cool, but it's a there's a thing though, because
I know somebody that went through something like this with
you know, having a baby, baby shower and all of that,
and they were like sisters. And today I asked, like, yo,
what happened? She's like, Yo, I don't know, Like it
just like stop talking, stop you know, reaching out. Didn't

(01:33:08):
you know, congratulate me when I was you know, got pregnant,
when I had the baby, like none of that, and
it was like just completely just don't speak. And it
is the crazy shit. It works because I'm like, y'all
would like sisters. You know what I'm saying. It's like
I don't know what happened, like so you know, things
happen in friendships and relationships where there's a thing of

(01:33:28):
you kind of don't know what happened. And then so
much time has passed where neither one of y'all reached
out to kind of have that conversation. So now it's like, Yo,
we haven't spoken in over a year. Yeah, who's gonna
make that call? I don't feel like I was wrong,
So actually, like this person started acting funny and just
completely like, you know, didn't acknowledge my wedding or didn't

(01:33:49):
acknowledge my pregnancy or my baby shower. Like, so I'm
supposed to still even take all except all of that
and then reach out and like yo, like some people
feel like they shouldn't. It should be the other person, Like, Yo,
she's the one not speaking to me, or she stopped
talking to me all of a sudden, So why am
I reaching out?

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Speaking out? Like even me? Sometimes I've had I think
I told.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
You, like I reached out to a couple of my
friends that we just kind of lost touch and I
did not know why, Like I cannot tell you why
we stopped speaking, But it got to a point where
I was just really confused, like, Yo, why the fuck
do we not speak? Like and then you reach out
and then you realize like it really was nothing in particular,
It was just kind of it was just like a
life thing, like yo, like I have a kid now,

(01:34:30):
you know I'm doing this, and you know I'm busy
with you know, our show and doing things like life
just happens, but it is important to kind of like
reach out and be like, yo, what like what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Like what's going on? Oh no, I agree, because there's
definitely like lifelong relationships with people that I don't speak
to every day, but love is always still there. But
it kind of goes back full circle to the Japanese
lady of like what does this mean to you? Like,
if I'm comfortable with us not speaking for years and
years doesn't mean there's a problem. But if I haven't

(01:35:01):
reached out, maybe I just don't need to, Like maybe
I can just move on with the people that are
active in my life at this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Yeah, but that's tough when it's somebody that you fucking
knew for since you were ten to eleven years old,
that's tough to kind of just be like, yo, we
just don't And like I said, y'all were through adulthood,
you were in each other's lives and then pregnancy happens
or marriage happens and things like that, and then we
just completely like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
I'm trying all right, So I was thinking, like lifelong friends,
my best friend, yeah, since kindergarten, he'd be invited to everything.
But we also have a group chat with three other
people that I'm still like, we talk every day in
the group chat from high school friends. But I wouldn't

(01:35:49):
be like, yo, y'all want to come to mars birthday party.
I would only my man's from kindergarten. But those are
still my lifelong friends. But like we don't hang out.
Matter of fact, group chats is probably the reason why
we're still community, still talking like that, Like I wouldn't
be like, yo, come tell Amorrow's birthday party. Were people
that you went to high school did you still talk
to Yeah, because it's just not even that type of relationship,

(01:36:11):
like they be throwing memes in the chat, like we
don't have like life conversations like that. Matter of fact,
one of them just had a kid and that was
the only reason that I had him come Tomorrow's second
birthday because he had a kid. Now that thing about it,
I don't speak to nobody from my high school. Well,

(01:36:31):
you said they are all gay. Now I didn't say
all most, which is which, which basically means they're rats.
One you went to a snitch. See what I took
from that thug bang even you Now I know why
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Speak to them, because they they're rats, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Yeah, but I don't know why I don't. There's not much. No,
I'm lying.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
There's people I went to high school, but those are
like my like like family that's like cousins for real,
like we speak, but outside of that, like I really
don't like every now and then we may you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Hit each other. U y'alls good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
But I speak to people like I lived, like in
my neighborhood every day, like on my block, like we
you know what I'm saying, grew up together, like I
speak to speak to them all pretty often, if not
every day.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
But yeah, like high school. But I think sometimes life
moments matter when it comes to guestless, like even if
you're getting married, you're married, friends maybe closer to you
because of the lifestyle y'all are living now versus the
people that you've run up with. Cruise my guy from
Rock Rocknation. Cruise Love Cruise, right. I've known Cruise for

(01:37:40):
maybe three four years at most. Cruise came to my
daughter's second birthday. Yeah, Cruise as a child. Him and
I speak every single day because of work as well
outside of me just liking Cruise as a person. Yeah,
I thought of him before I thought of my high
school friends that I've known for thirty years, like because like, nah, yeah,

(01:38:03):
y'all don't have kids. Like I also don't want to
make that weird when I send you a kid birthday
invite and you don't come. Now that now it's like,
all right, that's weird. So yeah, it's about your lifestyle too,
of the people that are around you that match with
what you're going through at the time. I think that's important.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
I remember I didn't get invited to my boy's wedding
and everybody was like, damn, you don't feel no way
about that, And at the time I didn't, but I
didn't understand why I didn't fill away, and then him
and him and his wife end up getting divorced in
like two years.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
I was like, oh, that's why I didn't fill away,
because yeah, I felt like that shit wasn't because I
remember in the moment, I did not really I didn't
feel any I was just like, nah, I'm not tripping,
really did not care at all, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
And then they got divorced. I was like, that's probably
why I never really like bothered me out and didn't
get invited, because it was kind of like shit didn't
even last, like, yeah, two years I was divorced, so
it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Yeah, but I don't know. I think, I think did
you ever? Other the fifty sent a crazy record with
PM b Rock Rison Peace. He said, I paid for
my cousin's wedding over two and at thousand, six years later,
he's the wrong man. I'd be so fucking tight. Oh yeah,
that's tough down six years later y'all divorced.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
But then also there's weddings that I wouldn't go to
because I don't even believe y'all want to get married. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. I'm a waist. Smart. Weddings are expensive,
especially if they're not ship with Taylor's wedding. When she
told me he was in New York, I was like,
thank the fucking Lord, because I knowing her, I thought
that shit was gonna be in fucking like Brazil or something.

(01:39:40):
I'm like, all right, let me start emptying the piggy
bank now. And shit, when she said New York City,
I was like, you have no idea how much that
just changed my life because I have a child, I
work every fucking day and shit going on, Like, yeah,
that that matters, absolutely for sure. I'm going to a
Maddie who's right around the staff. You guys, remember Maddie. Yes,
she's getting married in New Hampshire this month. That's a

(01:40:02):
cute little drive. Yeah, and I can't wait for a wedding.
I love her husband. I offended him at my daughter's
birthday party, which I told you guys, I can't wait.
But also I should I hit Loy on the budget.
The ship like where it's in New Hampshire is not
there's not like hotels and ship. I gotta like rent
the house. It's like a lot of fucking money, Like

(01:40:27):
that's a commitment for people to invite people to weddings.
I hate and I love Maddie and I can't wait
for it. But I'm not going to pretend like this
isn't a pretty penny just for fucking New Hampshire, Like, yeah,
it's only renting houses. It's the only thing you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Don't invite me to your wedding, got and God for bib.
Don't invite me to be in at bitch Please, don't
you think?

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Do you think either of us will ever get married? Page?
I didn't like that. Left I think that and only
Page came to my engagement party. MA wouldn't, Ma wouldn't
drive to s in Albans Queens for me. I think
there's even though you had an engage party, you were invited,
I was. I don't even remember that. To answer to

(01:41:07):
answer the question, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You could just
put a cut of a beep and then we can
get back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Into laughing, well, Mark mal laughing can lead into the
question that you just.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
No, no, no, no, we're rolling already, already cut it
and we're moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
So I think it's a possibility for either of you
to get married. Yeah, I think that's a possible.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Thanks marriage, do really really nailed it. It's a possibility.
We know it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Anything's a possibility. I think it's I think it's a possibility.
Do you think Maul and I are going to get
married if you can, I think there's a better possibility
and Mall and I getting married to each other. Listen,
when according to the government, we are we are met together,

(01:41:58):
it's the same we are fifty to fifty partners.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
I think if you guys continue want to take my
last name the way, if you continue in the way
that you are currently, No, I do not think that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Either of you will get married and the whay you're
currently going am I I'm actually in a very healthy
place in my life. Yeah, me too, wife's very healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Don't ask me questions. Y'all want to answers to you,
my nigga now, but as you answer, as you answer it,
I'm just kind of like, you know, just a living.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Do y'all think y'all will get married? Uh? Yeah, I
think I will when now that I don't know only
the ballpark I carried it too, I don't birthdays in
two weeks, who's counting? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Six yeah, my sixties, maybe fifties. Yeah,

(01:42:54):
But at that point, I think I think it's too
late for you to get married. No, No, I know,
I think I think you can have a life partnership
of monogamous partnership with somebody for the rest of your life.
But by the time you're fifty and have a little
bit of money with the why am I getting married? No,
I mean so I can die. You can just add
all this shit like, no, you know, marriage is to
me is for like people lack of a better word. Uh,

(01:43:19):
Like in your twenties where you think life you said,
lack of a better word and landing, okay, good, Like
you just have the hope that this is going to
work out for the rest of your life. In your
twenties year third you have you still have the dreams. Yeah,
life has not torn you down and broken you down
to the emoji that thug posted. You still have hope.
You still think the world's going to bring you good things,
and like love exists.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
And you hear not for people in the fifty You
hear this person talking and they got upset when I said,
I don't think that they will get married if they
continue to be the person that they are. Do you
hear the way that he's talking about love and marriage
and partnership?

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Okay, I said, probably not, But I am in a
healthy place I can receive love. I just first of all,
I'm only thirty five. We established that Maul is forty six.
Today I'm saying, yeah, I think once you hit fifty,
what's so? What's the point of getting married? You can
still have a life partnership. Just why am I I'm
signing a document at fifty years old? I'm cool, I

(01:44:13):
could do it. Will y'all do I have a will?

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Y'all keep saying like everything that's signing a document. Thing
with marriage, the government eventually got in your business. But
marriage did not start out as a business agreement. Is
it a business agreement? Yes, but that's not all there
is to marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
People, marriage started as a business.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
People people go probably people go in front of God
and promise and devote themselves to their partner in front
of their God of choice. That is the most important
part about marriage. So this not that is just a
business agreement or signing a piece of paper. No, I'm
standing in front of an altar and pledging myself to you,
in front of whoever ours and deity.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
To well.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
I don't know that'ctly just a great wedding song.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
I don't know. That's not that's not a good it's
a breakup song.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
No, but it's still a good wedding. Yeah, I broke
up with my girlfriend and.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Married you, and you're saying I'd give my all to
have just one more night with my ex while I'm
staying at the Ultra.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
It was a shock un wedding. We're getting married because
she's pregnant. I'm doing it right there. My mom baptized
my daughter in my bathtub. So like, you could do anything, Yeah,
you can do anything. I'm not saying Maul would not go.
I mean he has a Jesus peace, so clearly he
would go upon White Christ. He could do that with
his partner. Yeah, but that's not government wise. You could

(01:45:33):
just do a will rory when y'all be there. My
will it says all to pull the plugs. Who's allowed
here the marriage? You're allowed to pull the plugs? Like,
don't put that on me. Oh, it's in there. It's
in writing. That's that's not it's not in writing. You
did not give me. You didn't ask me.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
If I wanted that responsibility, I would, That's what I'm saying. Wait,
am I, no, no, no, am I?

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
What happened on the will wheels are expensive, would say,
am I in the will?

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Or am I a business agreement that if you so
do pass I get a piece of the business.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
No, that's not so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
Then why the fuck are you putting a pulling a
plug on me? Because then I'm just gonna kill you
because I don't look the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
The mask plug so fast? You know. It was one
of the like more morbid things. Uh, when Maul and
I started our business was when Leoyon put together that
agreement of if one of us dies and we had
to have a we had to have a real conference
call about Maul dying or me dying. No, but he
was doing his job like you have to. Yeah, no,

(01:46:26):
of course. It was just it was like having the
if I die call on your calendar. It's crazy. That
was a very morbid zoom like morbility. Listen, all right,
So if Mall died, like you sign it here to say,
go to his family and everything was good. I was like,
I mean, Lloyd, I would do that anyways, we don't
need to like like I would have hit bigs and

(01:46:47):
then like, yo, take this fifty percent and give it
to his sister. His nephew is mom. I was like,
now you gotta have that. In writing, I was like,
all right, I'll sign this death certificate.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Life was so fucking crazy to the young lady, though,
do not invite her, I guess, you know, to a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Shower or if you miss her caller and say, oh,
what's the problem. People be so afraid of, like confrontation.
Not all confrontation has to be negative. Like if you
care about this person and you want to fix the relationship,
obviously you do because you're even considering this car and say.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Yo, what's up, Like what's going on with us?

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
It's going to be uncomfortable, it's gonna make you feel
weird in your crevices, But like, if you care about
this person, and sometimes that's just what you gotta do.
Everybody got to stop being so afraid of confrontation, like
figure out what because sometimes the problem don't even be
that fucking serious.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Y'all can get over it, even that serious, Like we
could have had this conversation a year and a half ago.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Yeah, fuck y'all, y'all. It's like y'all are scared, Like
what the fuck are y'all so afraid of? People be
afraid to have conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
That Twitter spaces again. Yeah, I was. Why do I
keep getting those? Not? How do I turn that off
from my phone? You probably can't just go in there.
You get notifications Twitter Space. You said you was giving
Amra Beth. No, this was last night you were talking about.
Was that's Saturday that you would have me?

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Yeah, Twitter spaces Friday Friday. You get notifications for that
from anything that my name is mentioned in. You got
like who alerts and on? I don't know what the
fuck it is. I'm like, I don't care about none
of this. Why am I getting alerted about this?

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Ship? I don't care. You have six phones, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Yeah, that is true. I do another spaces soon though,
I'm done. I'm definitely down talk to the girls. What's
my girl's name, Kiara? What's the other ones?

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
That's uh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
The maras was on on with on Saturday, and it's
another one. What's the other one we met at the
New York Show? I don't I forgot her name. Damn,
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
But yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
I was in Twitter spaces with them because well the
name of the Twitter spaces was like, oh talking about this,
talking about that, and then they put sassy Marrits in there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
So I wrote a niggas like the you niggas call
me said, that's why you text me to get into space. No,
you have space, bef. No, you could have got it
shaken if you wanted. Markt obathed theirself to Marus like
you could have just you should have told me that.
Why you No, I I just wanted to know. I'm like, well,
why are y'all calling me sassy?

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
And they said because when I did my calling during
when I was in Caresaule. When I did my calling,
they said, I seemed like I had an attitude and
like I didn't want to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Oh yeah, we said the same because you just located
your hip in a pool.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
No, not even that, but because I was still having
problems with my ovary. That was I was in a
lot of pain. So I told them that I was like,
I wasn't being sassy. They didn't force me to call in.
That was actually my idea. But I was just in
a lot of pain and I was trying to not
look like I was in pain. But I was in pain,
which is why I got off the phone so abruptly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Well, shout out to the girls, because we definitely said
that in here. Pe was like, damn the mass that
she ain't want to do that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
No, I wasn't. I wasn't pain think we cut half
of it and crazy the crazy shit I called.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
I mean, I text Rory and said hey, I'm sorry,
which I wish you would have shared with them instead.
Everybody's thinking I just got a fucking attitude problem. I
text you and said, hey, I'm in a lot of pain.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
That's why I got off Off. We knew off Mic
that you were not feeling well. Okay, we knew that.
That's why you need a will. I finally convinced my
dad at his age to get a will. That took
years of convincing Jake. He doesn't need a will. Needs Jake.
We were at Yankee Stadium. He had shorts on and

(01:50:14):
I could see like a bump on the side of
his calf and I was like, what's that. He said,
My cancer is acting up. I didn't mean out laughing.
My cancers acting up, nigga, It's not like arthritis like

(01:50:34):
a rash. My cancers acting up. Man. Like, you get
to a point in life, we just like just bring
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Man who gives amor on your leg, my cancers acting
up again.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Getting it removed. That is in the hospital every other
day there's a new tumor just getting removed. He walk
out like he just got the flu shot. Like, YO,
tell me the way I've seen other people get tumors removed.
It's like a whole thing. It's a process. He really
just be walking out like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
They don't make them like that no more. That's that's
the problem with them. He be trying to walk on
the leg.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Yeah, they don't make them like Jacob Man, we need
to bring the Jakes back, man, do we We didn't
show uh my uncle Brian's ashes. We didn't show that
video do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Oh my gosh, I'll laughed so hard at that. I
laughed so hard I put in the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
We uh we tried to spread my uncle Brian's ashes
uh at Yankee Stadium, but how the wind was working,
and nobody would listen to me how the wind was working.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Uncles Brian's ashes ended up on Jerome ass, on the
top of a fucking civic.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Uncle all over the window of the train. Just the
thought of it sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
His ashes are blowing the center field maybe left field
get some ashes on maybe Aaron Judge, who knows, but
like it did not happen that way. They were at
the top of the stadium, like the last seat went
to the side of the stadium and you know, had
a bag dumped the ashes and the wind was blowing
out of the stadium around the back of the stadium

(01:51:58):
on to Jerome Avenue in the four train.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
I didn't send y'all there was another angle of the
seats we were in because I showed y'all the video
that I was taken when we were up there. Somebody
in the seats we were across the stadium took another
video and you can see the ashes swoop out of
the stadium, and everyone on the buzz back was like, no,
I think they made it to the field, And I
was like, whoever took that video followed the ashes out
of the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Yeah, Uncle Brian is not in center field. I can
promise you he's not well.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
When the wind blows the other the other way, one
day they'll blow him into the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
No, no, no, I don't think you understand it. Rained
all kind of shit. Since then, his uncle Brian is
in the sewer.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
His elbow is in Concourse Village in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
It's just Uncle Brian knows that they meant well, but
he's nowhere near Yankee Stadium. I can promise you that, Yo,
he's not. But I understand it was a great, you know,
a great sentiment. Yeah, tried, but so they taped. They
taped this photo. We bought an extra ticket because this
is what y'all was supposed to do, was get the
ticket to go on the field before the game and
just kind of sprinkling them right through the third baseline.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Monk, my godfather asked a bar to open at seven
thirty in the morning where the bus was in Nutley,
New Jersey. Seven thirty in the morning, he opened a
bar for forty five Irish fucks. You think anyone was
making it onto the field when they started drinking at
seven point thirty. The entire bus was just coolers of

(01:53:23):
bud light everywhere. I'm shocked. We made it to the game.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
It win.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Oh yeah, oh smoked him. No, I have good luck
with Yankee Stadium. But we put huggle Bryan's We bought
an extra ticket and put his picture like on one
of the seats, like in the section, and somebody with
us had like a nine to eleven shirt on never forget,
of course, and a woman walked up and was like,

(01:53:50):
did he die in nine to eleven? I was like, no, no, no,
no he didn't. And she said, well, my husband did.
He was a firefighter. I was like, I thank him
for a service. I swear to god, this is awkward. PTE.
People are so awkward though, Like I was so fucking awkward.

(01:54:11):
And then meet my awkward ass is like, okay, yeah,
well thank you who just yelled? But did he die
in nine eleven? I mean it makes sense though, I
get it. The shirt, Yeah, it makes sense. No, you
weren't doing a tribute. It's in nine eleven. It was
in August, and then the ashes obviously it all tossed together,
is what I'm saying. Oh man, well rest in peace,

(01:54:32):
uncle Brian, Uncle Brian, you were laid to rest on
Trump mappning and nine.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
To eleven is in a couple of days again, so
restI peace to everybody that was lost in nine eleven.
He can't because we could never forget for sure. Yeah, absolutely,
all right, Well we'll talk to you in a couple
of days on nine eleven. On nine eleven, We'll talk
to y'all on nine to eleven, nine to one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
One, don't we have Jocelyn on nine eleven. Oh my God,
pray for us as we pray for y'all, and we'll
talk to y'all soon. Be safety. I'm that nigga. He's
just ginger. We should just do a whole nine to
eleven conspiracy episode with Jocelyn No willian En

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