Episode 404 | Flip The Menu Over - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume shameless plug.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Everybody please go watch the off road video featuring Masago
and Freddy.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Gibbs directed.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Right, there's my Dog, directed by my She smoked it
at RAVB.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's my dog.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm happy that she took time off from shooting Beyonce,
jay Z and Adele.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, she has other people that she filmed, my dumbies.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
She's really made it now.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
She's like.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Now she's like shot you. That's just some funny resume.
Like I mean not to say that she has like
a real resume that she would go in to give
to a gig, but just imagine seeing that on the resume,
like in order though, Like all right, so you did
both on the run tours, you did Adele's entire residency
in Vegas, and then after that you decided to go to.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Freddy Gibbs and Rory. Those are small feats, Ravy, you
have now made it. Congrats Raby. Yeah, man, we're two
for two. Yeah, we are two for two video.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I love it, man, I love it. Yeah, it was.
It was definitely a fun fun video for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I will say, don't get pushed in the pool with
expensive corduroys on, because they will bring you down and
you will drown.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I was fighting for my life to get to the
shallow end at one point, like those are really weighing
me down. You get your cord, working on your cord,
trying to try not to die. Yeah, but please please
watch it, give it a view. How long did you
have to watch for a view to account?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just a second? Now? All right, well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Mean just watch the whole thing then and then just
maybe put it on repeat. I gotta get it to somebody, yeah,
so they can watch it. Yeah. I had to pitch
to YouTube. That's always fun. Just sell yourself on the
zoom to try to make the video deeper than it
really is. It's like, nah, Freddy Freddy was somewhere else,
Misga was in Brazil.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I had to shoot a video after here. Like it
was dope though I like to I like to consoptlate
the way it came out. Yeah, it was a really
good video, dope record.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Definitely a good time. And shout out to Jess from
Van jess Uh. I don't like to say model. I
guess talent. She's a very talent.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Very talent is the better, extremely talented singer and she
spoke to shit I needed somebody I knew who's like
actually deliver a verse because they were sending just like
a bunch of models from agencies. I'm like, I know,
none of these chicks corrap. Like if I send them
a Freddie Gives Verse, They're going to be like.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Not a chance. All right, Yeah it's not happening.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'll wait for another video. Yeah, I don't think I
need to be in the roy video. But anyways, how
are you?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
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I can't see her past the camera. Do you have
a little juicy guitar fit that you have on?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right now? Everything's juice today.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
You gotta bring the juicy.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's a good color on you.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I didn't I didn't know it was juicy guitar.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I knew it was.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I knew it was a law suit. I didn't know
it was juicy. Wha, Oh, that's real Juicy Good Tour.
They're gonna give that. That's gonna be a gift by tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, Juicy good Tour. It looks good. That color looks
good on you. Like it.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's something that I see. You actually match the light too. Meanwhile,
while Peams washes me out to be even whiter than
I am, which is almost impossible, Demeris gets to change
her lighting to whatever oufu she's.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Wearing for there.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, you know that's let the ladies do that us.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I want to just one hundred a thousand white bulb
and then and let's get to the ship.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I wish we could just completely like split in that,
you know, like certain cars you can do the sink
or one side.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Can get air conditioned. One can't. Wish we could just
make it darker over here. You wanted to be darker.
I need to be darker. Yes, this is it's offensive.
It too dark.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So I've sacrificed myself. All the women heart thrives that
love podcasting, don't think I'm attractive.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's the sacrifice that.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Make it's okay, man, don't worry about it. Man, you
look great. All the women that listen, all the women,
all seven of you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yesterday I was busy, so I wasn't like really in
the Twitter streets like that.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So you ever like get killed on the internet and
then be the last to know, like you start getting
calls like you're asking me now something wrong? Like no,
you're getting you're getting smoked? Right? Any times somebody called
you and goes, are you okay?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I'm like I know a thing or two about that?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Like four thirty five pm, I'm like, wait, why is
everyone hitting me about some N word?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Shit? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And then I hit de Maris. I was like, can
you feel me on? What the fuck is going on?
She's like, oh, yeah, you said you said the N word.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I was like, oh, okay, listen, man, Yeah, I don't
even want I don't want no flowers.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't want no flowers.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
But I told y'all I did not say the N word.
Rory definitely says the N word. Why won't anybody listen
to me? I don't know. Maybe I have to yell
for people to understand and listen, and I don't want
to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
They have been trying to get me for ten years
with random clips. Sometimes it be somebody in the background
saying it and my mouth is closed, like see Rory
said it. This is the first time. I think y'all
ma have a case. I didn't hear it because I
didn't say it. But when I listened back because Jamara
sent me the clip and I was like, oh, yeah,
I see what they're saying. Can we play it? Can
we play the clip?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I just want to.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I just want to hear it because you text me.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Rory texted me yesterday and or last night and he
was like, yo, uh something the N word, and I
didn't understand if he was joking or not. So then
I called him and he didn't answer, so that I
was just laughing.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I was in a session when you called me. I
meant to you back, but it was super late. Flirting.
It's a big did you see a bank's face when
I was just flirting? It sounds like it.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I didn't say I didn't say it, not, I fully
understand he said no, it was just flirting, I know.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But yeah, Josh said, we don't have to keep fighting.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
He didn't say nah. He didn't say that word.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I know he didn't say it, but it does sound
like he said it was the first It sounds like.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
He said it because y'all know he says it. Y'all
know he ain't around he says it. That's why it
sounds like he says it. Well, I mean, I wait
till you Josh and the Mari sleeve the studio and
then then Peach and I, yeah it's some old.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Dirty bastard and go crazy.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Wait, why so we're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
We're talking about.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
It in the office before you guys get here. Here
goes Peach. P is like, so does that mean like
we can all say it and it's dinner. I'm like, Peach,
please right now?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, everyone gets his birthday though, Yeah, P, you definitely
get say it on your birthday.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
You're definitely allowed to say the N word. It's all
good mental trip. But yeah, no, you didn't. That didn't
That didn't sound like it, though. Niggason Gardens was a
better case than that.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
No better really than garden. Wasn't what Niggerson Gardens sounded
like Nickerson Gardens. I'm still not fully convinced that he
didn't say niggas.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I'm not convinced he didn't say niggas and guardens. I'm
still not convinced he didn't say that. I thought that
was the name of the housing complex.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
It is niggas and gardens. Yeah, that's what it is.
Niggas and gardens. Yeah, like this one. No, not a
lot of graphy areas and watch Yeah that.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Youigun beat that case. That's that's nothing right there.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, I have nothing here.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
That in word rico, don't worry about you. You can
walk out of court on that. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Then people were I love when people give you too
much credit than you deserve. I saw some people saying,
because in the off road video, I'm trying to wrap
Freddy's verse and he says the N word at the end,
that I was doing a rollout to then tease me
saying it in the off road video.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I was like, yo, I wish I was that smart.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I thank you for giving me that type of credit,
because that did not cross I.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Didn't even think about that verse of Freddy verse. I
did not even put that together. That's hilarius.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So yeah, I mean, I you know, I say an
off road video, I said our last episode, this is
this is my N word rollout.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, it's all good man, It's right. It's just a word, man,
say it. Say it loud and loud so people don't
say it loud? And why would I be proud of?
Like what am I saying that word in proud of?
Because because you're not saying the N word that is like,
you know, like offensive.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You're saying the N word that is like the word
niggas offensive. If my wife face says any version of the.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Man, that's not at all, bro, not at all.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Well, just just to clarify, Rory did not say it,
and we do. We're not canceling him.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
We're not firing.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Cancel. That's not a real thing. No more cancel.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know what, ship the niggas is out here duing.
Nobody can be canceled no more.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's so that would have been a funny sketch if
I came out the elevator and all you guys were
sitting there and fired me from my.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Own company for saying the in word. Yeah, and y'all
had like de ray in the vest, like right on
the couch to nah man, It's all good though, Shaun
King's here sitting in Indian style.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
What's up with Sean King? I haven't heard I using
the inn word. What haven't he hasn't been like he
converted to.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
This long he's Muslim Now I'm a dope gang.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
But like I haven't even seen like anything with Sean King,
like on social media online anything like he just like
there's like not even I don't see anything for Seawan
King anymore, Like is he still active on social media?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Is he's still active?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And like I remember he was talking about something with Palestine.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah there was there's a there's a whole conflict going
on over there. No, no, I know that.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
But he the last time I remember us talking about
Sean King is I think he said he was going
to stop the conflict and uh, well.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
He said yeah he I mean he was in he
was doing negotiations for a ceasefire and also converted. He
converted to listen, you have to give him at least
the marketing credit that he deserves. Once the world started
focusing on Israel and Palestine's been going on for forty
fucking years. But once the world like started to focus
on it, taking that thing serious over.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
There, he was like, all right, that's that's where the
algorithm's at. Now I'm Muslim. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
No, he really said he converted because of the struggle
of the Palace people. That's why he wanted to convert.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
But is it like a Brittany Rental Muslim or is
he like, really like I.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Need you to what do you think of Brittany Renner Muslim?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Because I think she was Muslim because she was dating
Kevin Gates at the time, and who isn't Muslim? Yeah,
so she obviously, you know, she took on the Muslim
religion for her her partner at the time.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, but religion isn't like you know, when girls start
like dressing like their boyfriends. That's not like religion isn't
that well, I mean, you can't like dat somebody for
a month and it's like it's just Judaism in September
and then we broke up.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
So you know what you have to be back to.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have to be for sixty days, right, is a
Muslim sixty ninety days something like that? Yeah, so she
did her ninety days and what is ninety days and
and the show ninety days and.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sixty days and ninety days in she did ninety days in.
Well they got married too, right, because I think she's
had her divorce because you can't get divorced right away
in Islam, like they have a window with which I
actually agree with that. Like I think marriage in general,
like there should if you want to get a divorce,
give it not yeah, think about it.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know if they got married though, but I
mean either way, I do have full confidence in Sean
King against Netan Yahoo. I think he's gonna be It's
either gonna be Pat Patrick David or Sean King. I
think it's gonna end this this conflict for us, but.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Hopefully they get the job.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I'm really shocked that he didn't do like fundraising for
his own ramadant, Like I could see him doing a
telethon on live Sean King, like yeah, wow, he's fasting.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
And the money goes to him, but he's gonna like'.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Just checking on Sean King, shot him a little DM
and just make sure he's all right.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Man. I haven't heard much from Sean King.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
In a while, Peace, Scott, you want me to just
I just want to make sure he's good, man, I
m P Scott.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, I think he's a good guy. I think he
means well. So I just want to check in on him, That's.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
All I'm trying to think. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Also, in the midst of me rolling out the N word,
I kind of I kind of want my media media flowers, man,
I kind of I kind of feel like Maul and
I don't get a lot of credit for the stuff
that that we break. There's a lot of news that
we have been the first people to talk about it,
to break that news, and then it catches legs and

(12:10):
everyone just goes to the mass media people like they
were the ones that broke the ship. I've been telling
y'all that a Rico case was coming.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
With radio, right. We just skipped over that. No, I
mean you didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You alluded to it, you kind of flirted with it,
but you we didn't really go into it.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I did. I wanted to wait for the full report
to actually come out. Okay, and it's it's gonna it's
gonna be a long day for some of you guys.
How long was it that I got I got a
glance at some of that paperwork. There's crazy fucking names
in there. It is like I know a lot of
y'all government names. Now, I felt like I was having

(12:52):
a paperwork party. I was like they was in on
it too. And wait, that's his real name. But what
does this mean? No, like the music, I mean, I
think it's it's not just with the radio companies. Obviously, iHeart,
which we're on being one of the biggest conglomerates of
all time, I can speak for I've definitely taken payola,

(13:16):
So I mean we may end up being in this
this case as well. Like all our opinions up here
are bought, they pay us for them, which is directly
funneled through iHeart, so we can get a tax break,
so we will probably be on that stand as well.
Cuffed DJ never mind, No, get it to your bag.

(13:37):
Don't say never mind now you did, don't walk you back.
He's just just bleep the name go.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm joking. I'm not even gonna die anyone.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
But yes, the RICO, from my understanding, is labels not
only just doing payola, which, for those people that don't know,
payola is when companies or people will pay DJs or
radio executives, or should they pay the janitor at the
radio station, give them money so that someone can play
a record. Now, Payolo has been around since the inception

(14:08):
of radio. That's why it's illegal, because they had to
monitor it. We've known that's been going on. The bigger
part of this radio rico shit is the money laundering
portion of it, which is an extreme version of what
Payola would be. Funneling a bunch of money into radio
so a record can continue to play, yes, Payola, but
then when the radio station is setting the price higher

(14:32):
than anyone else to funnel it back to the label.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now you are, by definition laundering money.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You're putting money out, it's getting clean, no tax is there,
and then it's coming back to you as a profit.
That is money laundering. Now, yeah, this isn't just low
like yo a digit. Some guy from East New York
was hanging outside the Hot ninety seven office with a
brown paper bag and was like, Yo, my man's rap.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Here's here's twenty K.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's not a it's not Hove Dame and your brother
giving flex champagne baskets or everyone at the radio station.
It's not labels paying for DJ Cruz to go to
the Caribbean. This is legitimately a Rico money laundering situation
between the three major labels and the biggest radio conglomerate

(15:25):
in the world, plus MS plus any other radio station
across the country. And guys, iHeart, I know you're watching.
I think you're innocent. Okay, I think Iheart's trying to
buy NBC something along those lines.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
iHeart, I'm here to stand with you. I don't think
you guys are guilty.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I could never see a world where Universal, Warner or
Sony would ever be in bed with iHeart Media.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't see. I don't see a world where that happens.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
So just to have just to have fun here based
on something I said, So, do you understand the red
button a little more?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Noer? Oh, Drake's lawsuit certainly added to this, okay significantly
from my understanding, it was in play already, but with
the lawsuit and people having to now show and reveal
things because of the lawsuit, it certainly didn't help the

(16:20):
labels or or I art.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
So what does this mean though for music moving forward?
What does this mean for artists? What does this mean they'll.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Find a fall guy and everything will be business as
usual and they'll find a new way to do it.
It's like any other business. I'm not even mad at
the labels or radio. This goes on in any genre business.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
If we want to come down on fucking iHeartMedia and
Universal based off paying for some songs. Go down to a
Wall Street and see what they do at Chase Bank.
Somebody's going to be a false now, they're going to
find one person.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's nothing new, there's not going to be a settlement here.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I just think the FEDS, which is ironic because there's
so much going on in the world. I think the
FEDS are kind of fucking bored and are just running
wild with RICO and I Feds a board.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah that's interesting with so much going on.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, like listen, we were the first people up here
to condemn Puff and believe everybody. I think a lot
of that was for headlines and to get people up
the ladder, like oh I did the Puffy Caves. It's
for headlines. This is going to be the same exact thing.
No one's here for justice, they're here for headlines. Yes,
I think the FEDS are bored in a lot of

(17:35):
cases because I even think on the side of the
FEDS with crime. Let's just say in New York with
what they do with Rico's with gangs, that doesn't get
the headlines that they want. Puff gets the headlines, universal music,
I art that gets the headlines, that gets people up
the ladder when they do these cases getting fucking fucking

(17:56):
GS nine Like that's yeah, all right, cool, it's a
headline for like a week, right, you saw even with
the young thug thing like, this is all about headlines.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And I think that's what the Feds.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
They have the Rico law, which just allows you to
kind of just say whatever, like this is just this
is an organization, so anything that happened now you're guilty
of it. And there's no law that regulates RICO, which
I think there should be.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, you regulates RICO. What do you mean.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
There should be something that I think you have to
further prove the criminal organization and the crimes that were
involved in it. I do not think why I saw
as a gang, but according.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
To them, it was a gang.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Sugg was at the top. He was apparently the leader
of the gang. If somebody that's in the gang happens
to murder somebody I'm not responsible for that murder.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Now if thug order the murder, now we're talking different.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
RICO allows if somebody just happens to claim the flag
of your blood set and does some shit on their own,
not even under the flag or orders.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Now I'm part of the just because we're in the
same gang. Well, there needs to be regulation on RICO.
But you put you saying regulation on RICO. But that's
the whole point of the RICO.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Like I'm saying, they need to to regulate that because
it's a cheat code. All right, let's use the mafia.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
There's Gambino associates, shit that John Gotty don't even know
that person's name, never seen them in his life. Some
people just do crimes on their own, but they also
just happen to be associated with a gang. You think
Gotti is at his house and knows some twenty one
year old kid that's a Gambino associate that happened to
rob a fucking liquor store that day.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
No, but now you.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Can add it into a RICO and it's like you
got to prove that this was under my flag.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
But no, But this is the thing though, it's not
about at the end of the day. This person feels
so confident doing this because you have provided a community
and a culture where this is okay and stamped this
this gang. And now this person who's connected to your
gang has done something. Whether you ordered it or not,
it might not have gotten done if you weren't this

(20:00):
this big crime boss. Oh no, like you've cultivated this.
You are responsible whether you ordered it or not.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I understand Rico to a degree. We'll use the mafia
again as an example. Before I mean Rico existed. They
just the Feds were stupid and didn't know was in
the law books. They couldn't get to the boss because
the boss would never touch the drugs, the money, wouldn't
order anything on the phone, like you couldn't get to
him because they insulated him so much.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
So they created Rico so they could do that.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But then they ran crazy with it and just started
adding things that have nothing to do under the flag
of this organization. Sometimes people kill people and has nothing
to do with the gang that we're in, and now
I'm responsible for that murder just because you think I'm
the head of this organization.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Pull up, Rico.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I just think you need to further prove that more.
I don't think Rico is wrong as far as the law.
I just think that the lines are so blurred it
allows the FEDS to get away with a lot of
bullshit as far as adding charges to people that may
have not even been aware of it, anything that was
going on with the people under them.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I think we're going to see that more with
these types of cases. Because while what's happening with the
labels and radio is by definition illegal, this is still
white collar.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So where do we draw the line. Is the assistant
to the PM at the breakfast club now responsible because
they're in this organization. Where do you draw the line.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Of Well, no, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be people
that just work at the radio station per se. It
would be you know, the people that are running the
radio station, or the people at the labels. It would
be that.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It wouldn't be the intern that's running to go get
bagels and called for like he has nothing to do.
Let's say I'm a Let's say I'm a radio personality. Uh,
I'm not saying Hot ninety seven is of all what
I'm just using Hot ninety seven. Let's say I work
at Hot ninety seven on a morning show, and I
cut a deal with the president of Atlantic where I

(22:09):
am a third party contractor and you are paying me
a fee every month, and we know what that.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Fee is for.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It is to help promote all Atlantic artists, be favorable
to Atlantic artists, play more of Alank. I know what
this is, but my program director doesn't know that. Program
director's boss doesn't know that. The owner of MS Communications
doesn't know that. But I went to the CEO of
Atlantic and I took this money. Now MS is in

(22:35):
a RICO because I did something on my own that's
fucked up. I'd be sitting there as MS Communications like
di I didn't know that Rory went and took this back.
This is not payola, money laundering or a RICO. He
went and did that shit by himself.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, but I think it's bigger than that though. If
a RICO is handed down, that's because they've done enough investigation,
they've gathered enough information on Santa Ca.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
You're saying off rico where I think it gets fucked up.
This is just straight up I think label to corporation.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
So I think that you know the RICO thing. If
the RICO comes down, trust and believe they've done their
due diligence.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
They've investigated, They've gathered enough information over the years they
know exactly what's going on, who did what before that
even comes to your doorstep.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I loved shout out to Berg in front of the show.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I forgot who he was talking to, maybe maybe Gillian
Wallo when he was telling everybody. Out of all his records,
radio has always paid him out way more than any
of you know. Berg's records are streamed five billion times.
He always posts the numbers. They're insane.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So I've made ten times more money because radio pays
out more. There you go.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I mean listen, man, niggas got to eat, you
know what I'm saying, And he's got bills to pay. Man,
And they wonder wonder something sometimes and all Drake and
Kendrick stands. I'm not talking about this case with them
two whatsoever. You ever just wondered why certain songs is
just like always on the chart, then you checked like

(24:07):
the streaming numbers and they ain't even really like that
all that. Yeah, Radio, I've always said radio is super important.
I don't care if people think radio is that. Radio
is extremely important as far as getting music out there
and how it looks perception wise of how you're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
For sure, Absolutely those numbers are a bit more.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Listen, man, it's gonna be an interesting few at the
end of the months to the rest of the months
of the year in regards to this Radio Rico situation
that is upon us.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But again I this.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know they're gonna just get past this, like you said,
and started all over again, and another twenty years will
be right back at this again.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Maul.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I know you do not have a phone, so I
am here to let you know that that is probably
a device that you need in this day and age.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Bought me one. You got me one.

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Speaker 1 (25:20):
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Speaker 2 (25:49):
I just pulled up my twenty twenty five predictions. Now,
I don't want to give myself the whole bouquet of flowers,
but I think I deserve at least the lily. I said,
Billboard gets hacked this year, and while they're not getting hacked,
Billboard is going to have to open their books as well.
With all these cases, you think Billboards being left out.

(26:11):
I'm not saying Billboard did anything illegal. I'm just talking
about the place that is collecting the Numberillboard gets hacked.
That's why I said I don't deserve the whole bouquet.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is the hacked and hacked when investigated.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's two different things.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I'm not saying Billboard did anything criminal. I'm just
looking they're going to be the character witnessing this whole day.
They just have to answer some questions.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Here's the data.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, but that's not hacked.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's what I said, I don't deserve the whole thing.
But when I said that, I thought somebody was going
to figure out how to hack Billboard and we were
going to see it. The numbers that were fudged being revealed.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So you're saying, as a result of investigation, we will
see That's.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
What I meant by Billboard gets hacked, we are going
to see. Okay, it'll just be pulled, the curtain be
pulled a little bit on Billboard.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I thought a hacker would do it. It'll be the
federal government.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's no hack.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's like, you know, we need to see was really
going on here.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
And mind, I didn't see Billboard in any of the
paperwork that I saw, But I do again think if
they are the ones collecting a lot of that data
and showing it based off radio spins as well, somebody,
somebody you got some pain in the dude.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh man, yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
See that's why I be in the house, man, because
I don't want no Rico shit coming to my way.
I don't funk with none of these radio states, no DJs,
I don't know nobody.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I don't want no problems.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean, if you're a radio exact though, I think
that's just part of the business.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Definitely part of the business, for sure. But when the
fans get the knock in and start asking questions, Yeah,
I thought them. Jeffrey files, I thought them Jeffrey tapes
was interesting. Wait y'all hear these tapes. That's gonna hit
the net next year. Wait y'all hear all these execs
start telling on each other. Wait till I hear Wait,
ty I hear that. Wait till Tracy from Hot Night
seven that's to go on the stand.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, wait too, wait till you hear that. Wait you
hear that?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I mean, I do think a snitch fest will will
happen very soon. And what's funny is the people that
I think will be telling are also personalities, so it'll
be content.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, definitely, Snitch Palos is coming next.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Year and again and what I saw, I know the
rumors were Flex was cooperating with the FEDS on this,
and that also had something to do with Enough in Camillo.
I don't as I'm saying this now, I don't think
that's true as him now, but I can see how
like one and one together can like really make two.
But yeah, that was the rumor and it's on the timeline.

(28:36):
So who knows that Flex has been working and cooperating
with the federal government with this payola case and there
was some tie to that with Camillo and enough And
I'm not I'm not saying that whatsoever. I do think
that's just a rumor and it's not true.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Do I think everybody's gonna start working with them soon? Yeah,
I think that's gonna happen. These aren't criminals, These are
fucking DJs and radio personalities.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah. I've got nothing to do this shit. Well, this
is an old tweet from Flex.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
He said, Drake is one hundred percent right national play
per song, Drake don't pay for play pop?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
What is pop? CHR? What is that radio?

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Pop slash, Christian oh pop.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Christian radio three fifty K urban radio to fifty K
mix show honey k local mix show director, forty K
local DJ, three K to five K per song. DJ's
on a radio five days a week. This is why
independent artists don't rise to the top. All you artists know,
I ain't never take a don from you, your manager,
or your labels. Bomb has no price acts Israel Thursday

(29:41):
seven PM.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Paid for it my tax dollary.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
That's a tweet.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Almost a year ago from Flex.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
So I've always heard behind the scenes from a lot
of incredible sources of people that love Flex and people
that hate Flex that Flex has truly never taken a
dollar of paylo since the beginning of his career. He
has been tried a thousand times on it, and Flex
has never taken a dollar.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
So I did too, I definitely do. Now.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I know we've just been talking about thug and snitching
and what's right or wrong? What's the rules here, because
let's say, hypothetically, hypothetically, Flex, I'm not saying you're working
with the fix. Is that a bad thing to try
to clean up radio and payola and something that really
only benefits few major label artists.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I don't think that Flex is wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
If that was the case, I'm not saying, maybe go
tell on like your local DJ.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That's taken three k to me, that's like, that's a
little rat shit.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
But if you're working with the federal government to clean
up something that I feels has destroyed radio.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah that's wrong. Radio destroying music?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Fair too, because he clearly says this.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Is why independent artists don't rise. Yeah, I don't think
there's anything wrong with with Flex saying you I've been
in this game for thirty years. I'll tell you everything.
Let's clean this shit up. I don't think there's anything
wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I think having integrity in music, especially if you're a
DJ of the culture and you know, things like that.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I respect that.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
But I'm not going to sit here and say if
he's in the room, you know, saying oh yeah, no,
he took this, and I'm not going to say that
that's cool.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I understand why he would be doing it. You know,
he's trying to keep some type of.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Integrity in music and make sure all artists get a
fair shot. You know, it's particular independent artists get a
chance to you know, make it, make it big. So
I respect it, but I'm not gonna I understand it,
but I don't respect it. If he is giving I'm
not saying flexes, we want to make that clear, not

(31:51):
saying Flex is talking to the Feds giving nobody's name.
I'm saying, if that comes to fruition, then it is
what he's doing. I understand it. Not going to say
I respect, but I do understand it.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Should I should I jam up Rozenberg right now and
cash ap him a dollar and putting the description payola
for off road Sunday nights.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
H for dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Listen, man, why not dollar goes a long way? Now
send one hundred? Really fuck them up?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
No, I don't really, I don't really got it like
that right now? Yeah, maybe a dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Can you do cents on on cashry?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Fine?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Can do fifty cents a dollar? Fifty? How much does
it thrive the trains now? Uh?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Two seventy five, two seventy five to ninety Oh damn.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Your New York is such a crazy, crazy city, Like
they do things like this, like that whole congestion told
shit like this that has done nothing for traffic, like
nothing like and it's like now everybody's just paying nine
dollars extra just to come into the city like every day.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Like that is.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
But it's like they know that that's not I can
to stop people from I remember when the GW was
fucking the GW used to be nine dollars to cross
the bridge. Now it's almost, say, like twenty dollars to
across the GW.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Got him, he'll be behind bars by monday.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Rosenberg have you ever seen a heellam one two three
with a Denzel Washington loved that movie. So in that movie,
Denzel was like high ranking. They put him down to
like the regular guy because he was under investigation for
taking money with train contracts. And then John Travolta gets
him to admit it and he went to Japan to
go pick which like model of train, and he took

(33:38):
the money, but he said that was the train I
was going to pick.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Anyways, it didn't influence his decision. He was picking that shit.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But if y're out ya give me some bread in it,
I'll keep that to myself and make it look like
that is that wrong if a DJ does it? Because
if somebody, if a label's trying to pay me for
a record, I was already gonna like play a record
that you like. Yeah, like in my head, you don't
need do this, like I was gonna play this record.
But if you will off from your money, even if
it's I leegal, I'm not gonna say no to that shit.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what that's interested though, because when you think
about it, right, if a label sends a DJ a record,
like they're essentially leaving it in the DJ's hands to
have a certain level of taste or ear to hear
a hit record when he when he or she hears
with like say the DJ just doesn't know a hit
record like and then the labels like no, like this

(34:28):
is the hit like this is. So it's it's a
slippery thing because it's kind of like what if that
DJ just doesn't understand and hear the record like they
don't get it?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
But that I mean that is that is rare though
I think that's actually more specific to hip hop because
pop radio is there DJs that break records like even
let's say Hot ninety seven Power one to five, there
are only a few DJs that are really coming up
with their own sets per se because a lot of
that is the program director saying, these are the records

(34:58):
you're playing h from one to three. It's it's rare
where people like flex do get the ability to pick
Like when mister C would do Lunchtime Ringwind, what was
that shit called, yeah, Lunchtime re Round something like that,
he was able to pick his records because that was
specific to that show and see legendary DJ. Most people

(35:19):
that are either doing mornings afternoons, like you're not this
is you're getting a list of the records to play.
So it's it's more so that the label and program
directors deciding on what is going to be the thing.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
That is going to morph our minds into liking the song.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
The program like that.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Very rarely is there somebody like a Flex that does
get to just do their whole set, like they'll play
what they want, they can break records. Flex we know
has an ear, but that's not in this day and age. No,
there's plenty of fucking DJs that are great DJs. Enough
a great DJ. But when he was on with with
Angie at Hot that slid during the day, like enough

(36:01):
has to play the hit records that are are given like,
which is nothing against enough that that's the job in
afternoon radio. The program directors here did here you go
enough of course enough, well mix in certain stuff. But
see you're going to have to hear Chris brown Buster rhymes.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Uh, what's the name of that record? They ran that
one in the look at Me Now.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
You're gonna have to play look at Me Now fifteen
times in the next three hours, Like that's just gonna
have to happen.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
So that's not really a DJ thing.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
As far as an ear of a hit, you kind
of have to march to those orders when you're under
especially an iHeart you being that syndicated at least MS
is a little like Hot nine seven is a local
radio station. At the end of the day, Power one
to five is not that anymore. They're under iHeart where
that is a strict, strict role of what you're playing
and when you're playing it.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
They don't play with that shit at all. People AMAS
probably don't even like hip hop and they just flex.
You could do it, but anybody else. Here's the data,
here's what we agree about. Man, bring someones. Bring some
integrity back into the tainment industry. Fuck it? Why not
where business has integrity? This overall overall?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You No, I'm saying, uh, not this business specifically. I'm
saying as far as entertainment, uh, banking, fucking construction?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Which business on earth? Would you say? Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, everyone over there? They got it right, the whole business.
Because the price is the price.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I'm stumped. I actually think I think you always have
more integrity than all of us, the whole business. I
think that's the only like cut and dry, this is
what it is. That's her price. She tells you what
it is, you pay that price and you could you mean,
like do it? Yeah, that's the gig.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I mean the only ship would be some of the
customers don't have integrity and try to try to harm
the women.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
But that's where you have checks and balances.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's where the pimp comes in and with his integrity,
whoops your fucking ass.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I physically can't pay for pussy. I tried it.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
How'd you go about trying it?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Like I was with a girl she was like a
porn star, okay, nice and she was like, yo, if
you want to have sex with me and here's my price,
like it's up to you.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I physically couldn't do it, Like I got sick. I
was like, so, if I just give you money right
now like we she was like yeah. I was like really, so, yeah,
you can do whatever you want. I was like, whatever
I want.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I could not do it.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I physically could not do it. I mean I've told
you guys before, it's an ego thing for me. I'm
not above it. Like I don't judge people that pay
for pussy. I am just so insecure that like I
have to think you like me when we're having sex.
The transaction like that insecure, not like like you have
to like be in love me, like I have to
feel like, yo, you want to have sex with me?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, not because I'm paying you, Like yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Like that feeling. I was just like, there's no way
that this is a normal thing.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
But she probably would have like this is the thing.
I think because you guys are both attractive. Man, I
think the girls want to fuck you, but like because
they about their business. It's like, I mean, I like this.
I would fuck this nigga for free, but I can't.
And it was like around the end of the month,
you know how that gets. It's like when I go
on spaces, I be wanting to go on spaces, but
I'm like, this feels like podcast for free. I do

(39:10):
this for a living, Like I fuck with y'all, I
want to talk to y'all, but nah, I get paid
for this. Like I feel like that's probably how they feel.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So you're saying the sex worker is the way to
put it. It's like the DJ is taking payola for
records they would have played anyways. Yeah, like I would
sleep with that guy.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
But I mean, if I'm.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Gonna get paid, yeah, you're gonna get me ten bands.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I want to fuck you for free if you're offering money.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I literally like we were laughing at the fact. She
was like, yeah, you're just not a You're not a john,
like you're not a trick. I was like, I cannot
do it, Like.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I was laughing at all.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I was laughing at thet I was like, Yo, this
is insane that these are some people's like this is
their normal way of interacting with women.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
But I've talked with sex workers on that topic before,
where they've said men have talked themselves out of free
pussy because because.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
The moment a lot of men go.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
And know a woman's a sex worker and like start
talking to them and then out of like respect, just
assume that you got to pay for it. But there's
been times this specific girl, something's like I was just
fuck this dude. But the moment he brought up money,
now now you're always a trick in my mind for
the rest of your life, Like it switched right away.
I was here because I liked you, but the moment
somebody say money or now you a trick forever, Like

(40:20):
if he could have just kept his mouth shut, he
could have fucked for free.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah. No, I get it.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I get it, but you know, I mean, I don't
know it's throwing money at strip club. Is isn't paying
for pussy obviously, but there's there's still an aspect to it.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Small version of pay aldough. It's not.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That's the local DJ thing that that if Lex was
talking about. That's that's three to five artists go to
the radio they money.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Like if the artists go to the radio station just
start throwing money to DJ, is that paying for the play?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Like he's paying for the record? Absolutely, is it?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean, if I'm throwing money at you, you're not
playing my record, you know how? Like some people do
marketing ship like run into the radio station, have like
strippers with them to try to perform the ship and
then money gets thrown. You just walk out and you
leave the money there. Like I mean, yeah, y'all could
pick that up. We ain't picking it up.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, But like if I go to strip club, pretty
girl on stage and I'm throwing money, spending money on her,
and then like you know, but it's like it's not
even I don't even like her.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I like this other girl, the other girl. Just see
me throw money at the end of the night.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
The other girl, Like you know, we kind of start talking,
we hit it off, we go, we leave the strip
club or go send you know, breakfast or whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
She comes home with me, we have sex.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Technically, technically that I pay for that pussy because I
was throwing money in the strip club.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yes, because if you wouldn't you because you wouldn't have
gotten that pussy if you wasn't throwing that money in
the strip club.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
You know, we will never know.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay, But then if I take you to expensive dinner
or even do like a fun date, but it costs
money and you want to sleep with me because we
did that, is that not the same exactly?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Like if I take you on a date, restaurant, go
get some drinks, you know that whole thing, and then
you come.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Back home and we have sex. Did I pay for Like?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Are you selling that cat?

Speaker 5 (42:05):
No? Because you both got something out of it, because
you ate too.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Twice depending strip club mac and cheese and then the
real mac and cheese.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Chris Brown, you know y'all heard what he says.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
What Chris Reil said.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
So tired of y'all not about what y'all talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh well, Chris, see, I'm about to say what you know?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I don't be knowing shit. Y'all start telling me sh
I'm like, wait, what happened?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Now? He finally admitted that Damaris and I were right
that that Quelo was much bigger than them. Yeah right,
he said, everyone compares Michael Jackson, Beyonce, Usher, and Quevo
to me, but we're all superstars in our own right.
Yeah he never said that, Yes he did.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
He didn't say people compare what Quavo?

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Well, you added, I didn't hear you add Quavo into it.
You're mad annoying?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, now you put something up on his ig story,
I believe can you you click that?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Josh uh?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
He tweeted, honest opinion, Beyonce, Michael Jackson, and Usher are
all the best superstars and lanes of their own. I
see a lot of podcasts and debates on who's better,
and the truth is that we all shine bright in
our own way. I'll never say I'm better anything. I'm
just being the best Chris Brown in some way, shape

(43:19):
or form. These artists have influenced me to go hard
and never give up. I just want to be recognized
for helping people with my gifts. That's on pop room.
That's a very humble thing for Chris to say. But
I'll go on record and say I do believe Chris
Brown is a better dancer than Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Actually all of these usher Beyonce like I don't you know,
I think Chris Brown is the better dancer out of
these names. Michael Jackson is obviously, He's the apex entertainer.
He is the one that everybody all generations. You see
kids now that are maybe three four five years old
dressed up like Michael Jackson, dance like Michael. So Michael

(44:01):
Jackson is obviously the the one that all artists and
entertainers aspire to to kind of be like. But it's
okay to have artists that come after that are better
vocalist than Michael Jackson, better dancers than Mike. Michael just
encompassed the entire thing, the mystique, the aura, the entertaining,

(44:25):
just everything all in one is what made Michael Jackson
so special. But I do believe Chris Brown is a
better dancer than Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
This is part of my age. This is gonna maybe
be a stupid question. Did Michael Jackson invent the moonwalk?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Or is No, he just did.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
He just made it iconic. He made it iconic. He
got it from some dancers he was watching on So he.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Talked about appropriated it. No, no, no, it's culture vulture.
Michael was. No, there was black people that created it.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
There was.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
He ended being white.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
They were on Soul Train and he saw that move.
It was part of like the whole rope when you know,
dancers were doing whole robot type of thing. Yeah, and
he saw that on I think on Soul Train, and
he just made that a part of his performance. And
you know, obviously his his platforms was the biggest in
the world. So when he did it, that was the
first time that many people saw that move.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But I mean, how much stake do you put into
iconic choreography versus being the better dancer?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Like, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
If we were in the same place Steve Harvey was doing,
you got served and it's just Michael and Chris in
the ring.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, I'm going to take Chris Brown in that regard as.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Far as dancing, Yeah, but as far as iconic choreography,
I think Michael and Beyonce are over here and then
Chris Brown and Usher over here, like between obviously thriller
goes without saying. But like Beyonce with her crazy and
love choreography, I remember everyone trying to do that when
I was in seventh eighth grade single Ladies, Like she

(45:54):
has iconic choreography with her dancing, like that is going
to last forever.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Same way with Michael I mean the Your video.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I think Chris definitely had iconic like people would try
and do that choreography. But in the Usher My Way video,
I remember that. But do they have their their staple
as far as dancing goes Michael, Chris Brown and Usher.
But we know Beyonce and Michael Jackson have their staples
just just christ and like a move like move anytime

(46:27):
Beyonce is on tour and if she's going to perform
Single Ladies, people are waiting for that choreography, like that's
the whole Chris Brown.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Chris Brown has it with Wall to Wall. I don't
have nothing but ladies calling, Yeah, take you down and
take you down.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, take you down to too, Yeah yeah, but take
you down. At the level we think that a single
Ladies or a thriller.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Will be, nothing is at the level of single Ladies.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Duale would never be anything at the level of Thriller.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well obviously, but I still think, uh not to say
Single Ladies is compared to Thriller as far as choreography,
but she did check that box.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Of I have an iconic, iconic choreography dance.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I just I feel like Usher and Chris maybe could
outdance them, but don't have that.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Well that well, part of that is because Usher and
Chris can outdance them, their choreography is harder to do
for sure. I mean, so a reason why Single Ladies
and Thriller are so this but well not Thriller. But
the reason why Single Ladies are so popular is because
the choreographer, I mean the choreography like White Housewives at home.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
We're at home doing this shit like it's for easy.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
It's simple and easy for sure, remember, So that's why
it got as big as it got.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
That's a good point because even like when Michael Jackson
would do the lean, we like everyone tries the lean. Yeah,
so yeah, I hear you that that does. That does
make sense too. It was very simplified so everyone could.
It was like the first TikTok dances. Yeah, yeah, I
get that because I mean that as I think Beyonce
is up there with Michael, but she can't do a
backflip without a running start, and that's something Chris Brown

(48:08):
can do. Beyonce could run ten minutes. I don't think
she can do it back you mean running start like,
I don't do that.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I think my baby could do a backflip. She tried
to it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Beyonce could do a back you know, we can know,
we can know Chris doesn't doing it.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
But I'm just saying, right now it goes on stage tonight,
there will be no backflip like you know.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I mean, I'm not saying anything.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Beyonce is amazing, but she not trying to do no
fucking backflip tonight on stage.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I think Usher and his prime could do a backflip
with a running start. I don't know many performers that
could just stand there and do it. Usher has done
backflips on stage, yeah, but he had like two or
three steps. I don't he didn't even travel NBA wise,
I'm saying there was a quick running start.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Usher has a whole set literally on rollerskates that that
that that's crazy to do that like just doing a
whole you know, a bunch of your records and the choreography,
y'all are all on roller skates.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I mean, these are all, you know, to what Usher's saying,
I mean, Chris Brown is saying, these are all the
best of the best. And you talk about performers and
the stays, Uh, Usher and Chris and Michael Jackson and Beyonce,
these are the These are the top of the pyramids
when you talk about entertainment and you know, music and dance, choreography,
things like that. Janet Jackson as well. I mean, her

(49:22):
rhythmication video obviously was groundbreaking and changing. Even the one
video that she did with what was the name of
the song, uh Isn't Miss You Much? When she was
in the dance studio by myself with the chair pleasure Principal,
Pleasure Principal, that was an iconic video and she was
just her in the video in the dance studio. So yeah,

(49:43):
I mean, honestly, on Chris saying, I think he was
being a little humble and not trying to, you know,
make it seem like he because obviously you don't want
to be the person to say I'm better than anybody,
or you know, you let the audience and the fans
say that, but I will say, you know, just in
watching both and being a fan of both entertainers. In
regards to him and Michael Jackson, I do think Chris

(50:05):
is the better dancer out of him and Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It's not my world, so I could be wrong, but
I want justice for choreographers, Like the way we get
these billboard complex all these lists with producers, we know
every backstory of every Quincy Jones thing with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like, is there a list of choreographers, Like why did.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
They not get as much shine as even engineers get
when you get down to the nerdy shit?

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well, because I would like to know, because they still
do LG.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I mean, puff put LG on, Like that was the
most famous one I remember as a kid because she
was on the reality show.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Well, people pay attention to things that apply to them.
So why I was gonna say why engineers would be
important to you is because that's what you would care about.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But even like the best producers twenty first century shit,
that what we talked about last week. I feel like
a casual fan clicked that right away too. If I
as a I wouldn'tn say a casual fan of choreograph. Yeah, mean,
I like dancing, but I don't sit and think about
who put it together. I would click that list right away,
and that's not even my world. I would love for
those people to be highlighted and learn more about it.

(51:09):
So that's a huge part of music that just is
not talked about.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
But I mean, like again, like I hear you, but
I don't know. Maybe it's because I really I love
dancing so much that I'm more like Sean Bankad does
the majority of people's videos these days, right, so a
lot of the famous choreography that ends up being TikTok dances,
like for example, Cardi B's up or I put that

(51:34):
on my Mama Victoria Monet like great choreography, yes, which
became huge, right like that he did all of that.
Sean Bankhead has been huge with the videos that he's
he's created as far as like I remember all of
Janet's choreographers obviously because some of them used to be
her dancers, and I was like obsessed, But there are

(51:55):
you can find that list, but again that would be
up first. That would be something that you would have
to pay attention to because the publications and stuff that
it's going to be in might not be something that
you're interested in, but the theater kids and know all
about it, and for sure you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
So I'm interested. That's really why I'm asking, Like, did
like did Michael have a main usher?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Backflop?

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Run?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Start? I I stand correction, mean give us yo? Do
you know how hardly to stand there and do a backflip?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Go try your bed and go try how.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I'm gonna be in the hospital for about a month
if I try to do it bad, I will knock
all this shit over trying to do a backflip?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Did Michael have like a main choreographer the way Quincy
was his main producer?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Like, is there something you know he did did bad?
He did?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Like I think he worked.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
With a lot of people uh on on a number
of projects. I don't know if he had one main
choreographer though, And.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I also want to know, like who who's the prince
of this dance and ship? Like which Icon never had
a choreographer? Like if you saw them dance, they came
up with it.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
That just doesn't I was side of Paul up Duel.
I don't think that that tends to just because it's
so much choreography is needed, especially for not really music
videos for tours. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like tours,
it's like, that's so much choreography. So Michael worked with

(53:20):
seven prominent choreographers, but most importantly Vincent Patterson for Smooth Criminal,
The Bad Tour, Michael Peters for Thriller and Beat It.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
He's he he has a couple of people, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Mike, Michael worked with him choreography for Thriller and Beat
It like you Michael Jackson of that.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yo, the way these kids watched Gracie's Corner, that's the
way I watched Thriller, Like that was my Gracie's Corner.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Like my mom had quits my friend.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
No, seriously, my mom had to put the Thriller cassette
and like my book bag when I went to the babysitter,
so that that she will put that in. That would
be the only way I sat and watched TV is
watching Thriller.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I showed Amara toy story for the first time. You did.
And because Amara likes her her shows.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Like themis Rachel's a perfect Pig, Mickey Mouse, Baby Shark
all that. It was the first time. She sat for
like an hour and a half and watched the movie.
She was lost. She was locked in, really like locked in.
I've never heard her be that quiet, and that's still
in my entire life.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
That's so funny.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
I introduced my god daughters to Toy Story and I
didn't think because they have their same movies that they
watch over whatever, and I didn't think that they would
watch it. They're one in three, and they sat and
they were like into the story, and I was like, okay,
Like classics a classic is a classic.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Toy Story is definitely classic. Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I loved it because now this coming weekend, now we
can watch Story two. Like I have excuses to watch
all those movies now because of Mars into them. Like
even her eyes would like light up at certain like
I knew she was really locked in and focused because
even during the storyline, she would like react to certain parts.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I'm like, oh, yeah, you what story?

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Yeah, Toy Story is mental outside of the story being good, right,
which older kids care about.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Toy Story is mentally stimulating for children.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
The colors are bright enough, the voices are loud like
it's it's mentally stimulating for I.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Know it's been like repurposed and refurbishing all that. But
the fact that was made in nineteen ninety five is
like you're saying, I cannot believe in nineteen ninety five
they made that movie.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
If you just look at everything that was being made
at that time, like what Pixar, That shit was like
revolution that was like Apple actually matter of fact, didn't
steve jobs by Pixar. That was like that was like
iconic as far as technology goes.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
What they did in ninety five with toy Story like that.
It's a great movie, though, great storyline.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
That shit could come out in twenty twenty five and
it would look no fucking different.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
And it was. That was the first Pixar movie.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, No, Pixar is Apple, Like they revolutionized everything.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, then the fact that they did that at.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
That level for the first time was nuts and shit,
it's like an all star cast.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Pixar has some of the best, like children's movies too,
because The Incredibles is like one of my personal favorite.
Like Pixar has the good movies, like Monsters in all
of those are Pixar.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
They're not Disney Yo Matt like.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
And also imagine them pitching that to Tom Hanks, and
I know Castoway was after but just using as example,
like one of my movies, I had to be on
a deserted island, lose fucking eighty pounds, grow a beard,
had to carry a movie as one person with no
real dialogue. And then they're like, no, you could just

(56:20):
sit in the air conditioning studio and just say these
lines right here and.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Make ER's say it into the mic.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Fifteen times went out in two days.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
He's like, you know, I was in Indonesia, in the
island for six months.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
It got paid less on a water diet, just drinking
water every day. That was it.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Did hen't win anything for Casway, I would hope, So.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Don't say he had to, because we know people that
went through crazy transformations for roles and they didn't win.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Castaway has like four lines in it. You know, good
of an actor you have to be to carry a
movie with no fucking line.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
He won Best Actor for Castaway. Oh no, he got
nominated and he did not win. At the Academy Awards.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
He got a Gold and Glow for Best Actor, but
he didn't get He didn't get the who beat him.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Maclamore, who beat Tom Hanks, and castaway from Best Actor.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
For two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Let me see somebody got naked for the Best Actor.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
Halle Berry's sour Fish and the leading wrote Russell Crowe Gladiator.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Oh all right, ma, you know what I said.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I kind of said, correct, all right, because if we
told about visually it was toy story, then it was
three hundred three thousand, that was.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Crazy Gladiator won Best Picture that year?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Or two Gladiators. I comfortably would say it was glad
that's the one. Yeah, I thought you three thousand, No general,
three hundred general, Yeah, Russell Crows the three hundred not
the same white guy. It's not Russell krus It's not
the other guys, Russell Crowe. B what's the washing throne

(57:54):
when they start naming all the Russells Russell brand So
Crow may be getting some sick lines off that we
just allow Gladiated.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
When it makes sense though, Yeah, of course, yeah, that's
that's one of.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
The know I stand corrected right away. What could be
cast away Gladiator? I know Tom Anks was fucking fuck
like nobody's being gladiated that year.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Yeah, can you imagine like could you imagine like coming
out like you work your whole entire life on a movie,
like you put your blood, sweat, tears, everything on this project.
It's amazing, Like it's a it's everybody wants to watch it.
And then Titanic come out the same year. Boy, I'd
be lissed. I would be fucking pissed.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
When we talked to Neil Brennan, friend of the show,
co creator of Chappelle's Show, also great stand up comedian
when they wrote Half Baked, I think it was the
weekend opening was.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Titanic. Oh, it's the ship with Cuba Gooding Jr. When
he's the agent. Uh uh. I think it was like Titanic.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Jerry Maguire, Like Neil started naming all the movies that
Half Baked went against, and he was like, no wonder,
we were all blackballed from the end of the Like
we finally wrote a movie, got distribution. We hated the movie,
but all right, cool, it's going out. It's the first
time we've ever done so, for sure. But at the
time a lot of Colt classics come out, and it's

(59:25):
not till fifteen years later it starts to like it
like Scarface.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Bombed at the box office, didn't do anything. He said,
we finally get the date and it's Titanic. It's the
next thing. It's like, yeah, a studio is that never
talked to me again until heel show That's just bad.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Oh yeah, yep. Came out around the same time.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Best Picture Titanic went against as good as it gets
the full Monty Goodwill Hunting, Oh.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, he said, Goodwill Hunting. Titanic and Goodwill Hunting was
the same week as Half Baked.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Charlie Sheen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
He was calid before calin for sure, like winning was
winning was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
He said that he has he started having sex with
men while he was on crack and says it's fucking liberated.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
That's a final talk.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I don't know if y'all remember the clip that went
viral years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
There was a crackhead. They was arguing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
They was ready to fight, and the dude told him
leave him alone. He was like, I want some pussy,
but I'll settled for some butt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I didn't understand beat off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I didn't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I was like, but now he's seen as Charlie Sheen interview,
I'm like, Oh, crack makes you horny and you don't
care if it's vagina or men, but you just want
to have sex.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Crack. Cracker is what turn the frogs gay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Right, So he said, crack is what started it, That's
what that's where it was born. Or sparked, and then
whatever chunks of time that I was off the pipe
trying to navigate that, trying to come to terms with it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Uh wait what he said? Where where did that come from?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
As far as once he was sober, he couldn't figure
out why he was fucking dues. It came from armahamer Like,
that's where it came from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
This is a good Morning America, by the way, this interview,
it's a good morning in America.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Why did that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
And then just finally being like so what some of
it was weird, A lot of it was fucking fun
and life goes on, he told Good Morning America.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
He said, he said, it's like it calls it flipping
the menu over having gay sex.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
No mean, you don't tell me where the beverages are
as gay sex.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
That's not the same thing, Charlie, Like, don't even compare
it to that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
That's just not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
No. You So Charlie Sheen is gay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
No, you don't think he's bisexual?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
We got I didn't say nothing. I didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You don't think that drugs, specifically cracked can make you
do things that you never would have done unless you're
on crack. I think that if you're down to doing crack,
you'll do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Ah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I think there's probably a lot of if you're smoking crack.
I think a majority of crackheads are probably homophobic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Smoking you're down to smoking crack, that's not a that's
a person that will do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Crackheads are actually really judging about other people's lifestyles, which
is always the most ironic and funny thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
I don't like the way y'all demonizes crack.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Imani it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Yeah, I'm saying I've seen the things that people do
smoke crack.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I'm not young thug and suggesting that being a snitch
and being gay are the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So hear me out and let me land this point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I think there's people that have committed violent crimes that
they would have never done, but because they started smoking crack,
their mind was altered. And I'm not comparing that to
being gay. I'm just saying I don't think crime and
gay is the same.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I just think drugs can alter your heart to be
I mean, before Obama, I think drugs can alter your
mind to do something you never would have done, including
possibly fucking a bunch of men.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I don't know if Richard Pryor just came in the
world gay. I think he did a little freebase and
just started fucking some dudes in Hollywah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
That's wul be different. I think that. I think that
crack only enhances what's already inside of you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Because a lot of time you can't. Sucking dick is
a commitment. I don't I've never tried. There's no drug.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
There is no drug that can prepare you to hit
your knees and suck dick. There's no drug.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Ah, there's no drug that can compare you hit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
Me like you gotta you gotta commit to that ship, bro.
Drugs can't make you gay, Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Noah, drugs don't make you gay. You gay already.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
It was inside you. You were curious about it. You
might have been by curious and then the drug hit
and you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Was like, sucked dick for crack. But that's for an addiction.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Listen, man, I'm sure they'd much rather, uh, you know,
pick up recycled can goods to get money.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But sometimes there's a dick there and somebody wants it suck.
So I mean, sometimes old.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Dog says, you know, I got these cheeseburgers. But so
you both don't see the point of like, maybe drugs
could just alter your mind to do something you you
wouldn't have done that was never even inside you before.
I think somebody was never a killer, but when they
got some crack in them, they became a killer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
But I would have never done that. Everybody ever done that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Everybody has has killer like in them. Though everybody is
capable of killing. Not everybody came of a sucking dick,
but ort but everybody to kill.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Somebody before I suck dick, that's a fact. That's a fact.
I'll kill his whole room before I suck cock.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I will.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I will cut everybody in his room before I suck
at dick. If somebody came in here and said, sucker Dick,
will kill me, give me the gun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I'm gonna kill him with you. I'm not sucking no
dick for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Y'all all gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
For sure, Like the marriage said, nothing can prepare you
for that. To look at.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Dick in the face and watch it and watch it
and watch it coming towards you, there's no way, yo.
He peace gotta go. It's his time. I can't interfere
with the Lord. The Lord said this man, Yeah, this
is God sent this man here today.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
A matter of fact, this would be a sin to God.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Do not get in the way of what God has
ordained this man to do here today.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I'm not getting in the way that I'm not that
so raven. Maybe God ordains you to suck a day God.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
God never woke up and said today is a day
mal suck. God has never said that. He's never said that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
God would be very bored that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Then God has never said I would look at God like,
there's a lot of things going on that kneeds your
attention in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Maybe Ma and Dick is not really worth It's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Not everybody gotta go. Everybody gotta die if it's up
to me. Everybody's noting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
But we're so petty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
If Maul ended up doing that, we wouldn't be grateful.
We would clown him for sucking Dick on the next episode,
even though he saved our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Yeah you gotta and I gotta live with that. Give
me death death before dishonor Yeah, you gotta fall on
the sword. You gotta sit on the sword.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Hey, yo, Nah kill me, bro kill me fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I want to say something nice, but I feel like
you guys are gonna juest me. If there was a
a firing squad with assault rifles at all y'all, and
the only way to save before y'all was for me
to suck at dick, I would probably do it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
No, you're a good friend. You're a good friend.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
He's a gay friend. I'm not mad at him. I
have gay friends. When he's would like, really, man, it
would be a very tragical.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
There a lot of traumas.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I think I could get through therapy of me sucking
the dick if all of you died and I watched
it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, I think that would affect my life way more
than you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Wait, can I smoke some crack before?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
If there's crack on deck with the firing squady, I
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
There's no way, bro, There's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I mean, sometimes it's weird, a lot of it was
fucking fun, and life goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
He told Good Morning America, like little.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Chari Nahair, a coward dies a thousand deaths man, all right,
First of all, a man sucking a dick just not
make him a coward.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Matter of fact, that's the bravest man I've ever met
my life. It's that you've done things I could never listen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Man, I'm just let y'all know, don't be busy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Russell Crowe Gladiator is basically the equivalent. Yo, I'm kill me.
There's no way around it. Kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Life is way more important than death is beautiful. Death
is inevitable. It's inevitable. We all got to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Fuck it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
We all ain't got a sucking dick, but we all
got to die. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I suppose that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
It ain't true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
So in fact, we all got to die. We all
ain't got a suck a dick.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Oh, we have other stuff on the list, but I
don't even know after that. If I want to talk
about any of this, we'll say the Cam and Dame
full breakdown. I think for Patreon, that's something I think
I wanted us to get into. You can keep all
this this promo for Patreon. I want to get into
the weeds weeds of that because you and I probably

(01:09:48):
have a bit more information on that, and yeah, that's
a Patreon thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I think that'd be good.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Let's do it. Let's do a voicemail and get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
You've got mail, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I mean with that said, uh, do we have voicemails
that are sponsored by boost I don't know. I Boosty
wants their name next to the conversation we just had.
But sometimes sometimes you'll get boosted. Yeah five g by
crack unlimited talk, text data and crack.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
If you feel like the.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
Marris about time you brought your ass back? Dang, she
had ication, So I wanted the marriage and Rory Mall
can't really talk about this because according to Mall, he
wouldn't give a bitch a penny. He wouldn't give her
a ham sandwich, you know what I'm saying. He wouldn't
give her a ghetto soundch the ghetto soundich where it's

(01:10:33):
just sugar meat on there and nothing or gets ketchup
on there or nothing. He wouldn't even do that for
a bit. So it's for Rory, and this is for
the mayors because the marriage always say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
So, Rory, you ever had a female that you showed
up for her, y'all had an agreement, y'all had a situation.
You know, you show up for you do things y'all
got an arrangement. You do sit outside of arranged agreement
and everything, but she don't treat you with the with
I don't want to say reverge, but she don't treat
you how she should in the way you show up
for her, you know, like she always acting annoyed and

(01:11:12):
shit like that. So I got the situation where we've
been fucking each other for years, but the motherfucker get
on my fucking nerves and the reason I can't stop
fucking wing case. See see my dicks. Goddamnit, I love
a dick chocolate, motherfucker. I love him so chocolate. They
damn they're blue, you know what I'm saying. But she'd
be acting annoyed every telling like we ain't got to
deal with each other, you know that, right, I can
go find me so much, you can go find you

(01:11:32):
something else. So the marriage he ever treating a nigga
that showed up for you less than you should have,
and rory is reverse.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
Okay, So first of all, ain't no such thing as
less than I should have just because just because you
paying for things and buying things or doing what you
say that you're supposed to be doing doesn't mean that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
You're a good partner. You can be feeling in other ways.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Like I think a lot of times men feel like
they should be appreciated for the things they do and
then like the shit that they don't do. It's just
like yeah, but like look at the shit I do do,
and it's like no, but we've had this conversation about
loving the person and when you're dating, like the way
that they need to be loved, And you could be
an annoying nigga. You talk about some she's annoying you. Yeah,
you're probably annoying her. It's probably why she treats you
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
You just annoyed me in this call.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
But what like, what does agreement mean? Because now now
I wish you would have just put me in the
mall category. I've never been like, yo, I'll pay your
rent if you suck my.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Dick, Like yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Never been in that situation where because I'm paying for something,
I just assume, matter of fact, we've been fucking if
I'm about to start to pay for something. So I've
never been in that situation. He sounds like he was
just tricking, and once he stopped tricking, she ain't want him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
He was all over the place, so I was a
little confused. But I mean, I think that happens in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Real relationships, where you know the corny eighty twenty rules.
Sometimes you're twenty, sometimes you're eighty, and there's balances out
and this and that. I've definitely been in relationships where
I've been less present and she's been a present or
opposite like I've been present, she has been present.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
That's happened.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
But that's in a relationship, not more on an agreement
of like a monetary value of anything. Like the agreement
wasn't all right if I continue to pay this or
do that, then we are locked in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
It was like an actual, like real relationship. So yeah,
I guess I've been in this situation he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
But the way he's wording it sounds like this is
a transaction.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
So if you want it to continue, keep the transaction.
Would you buy a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Chicken Ham sandwich a ghetto sandwich like it? Do you
think that assessment of you was fairly accurate? Can we
just replay just just just that part.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
I've been to plenty beautiful restaurants with beautiful women in
my life, but I just.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Want to get just that part about Mall. Let's get
an accurate your ass back.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
Dang, she had been vacation and then yes, I wouldn't
drive on this and Rory Mall can't really talk about
this because according to Mall, he wouldn't give a bitch
a penny. He wouldn't give her a ham sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
He wouldn't give her a ghetto sound the ghetto sandwich
where it's just meat on there and nothing, or just
ketchup on there or nothing. He wouldn't even do that
for a bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, for a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
No before you wouldn't get you wouldn't give her a
bitch of a ketchup sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
No a woman, yes, a bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
No, y'all parents ever been broken?

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Made like a creative Sorry, we gave him advice and
made like a creative food description like have y'all ever
done that? Like because he talked about ketchup sandwiches. I
know people have eaten like sugar sandwiches, Like was there anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
If I ate a sugar sandwich in my life? It
was about choice.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
I have never I would never say that my mother
and make it even seemed like we had we was
down with just bread and sugar never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I maybe this is coming from a very privileged position.
When people used to watch sugar sandwiches, I thought it
was a running joke.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
No, I know that's the thing I've in my house.
We never ate sugar sandwiches. No, never had to eat
a sugar sand I wouldn't even think about putting sugar
on bread and putting another piece of bread. I would
just eat the bread, just toast the bread and butter
at that point, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Yeah, I guess you would want something sweet. When we
were really poor, my dad used to make like he
used to make these cookies out of like just apples
and like oats. I don't know how he did it,
but they were like so good. But I didn't realize
till I was older, Like old I was poverty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
I mean, I could turn ramen noodles into some shit
that you think you're in the East Village eating like same. Yeah,
I can make a ram impact for ten bucks last
a month, and this shit's going to be gourmet. When
you're poor, you know how to do that. But a
sugar sandwich, a ketchup sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
That's meat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I'm never we just was never down to that. I'm sorry,
but you got.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
A privileged like I think people were yoking when they
were like, nah, it's sugar stands, like why would you
do that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yeah, I'm just was never.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
We was never down to just bread and sugar. Like,
it never got that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
And I mean, I guess with a certain government assistant,
you get you know, milk, butter, cheese, bread, just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Make a girl cheese man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Like I said, it never got that bad, not saying niggas.
Wasn't no public assistance, none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
It's never not a public ass It never got that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Somehow, my mom is on public assistance now and I
have no fucking idea how she did that. Oh she
becoming to my carib with because she has to like
buy certain because she's retired, right, yeah, but it's somebody
do with her her diabetes medical ship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Like she become to my house with like six toobs
of toothpaste. She's like, I just gotta I gotta spend
this money where. Yeah they now you want to get
on food stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I love old people like that, Like, no, why you
take my card to go to Whole Foods? Give me
that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Yeah, the whole foods except food snap.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Oh damn, I need to sign up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Oh yeah, it's not food stands. Yeah, TBT card, it's nothing.
It's not this, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Y'all don't eve y'all, don't y'all never y'all never went
to the store with food stamps. Y'all don't even know
what that is. No, yeah, y'all way too young for that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Well, no, I remember food stamps, but my first job
was at like a local grocery.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Store and I had a big one, like a mom
and pop type thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
That was the first year that they switched over to
the EBT card, because I remember, I had to learn
how to do that whole thing. And it would always
be funny of the people that would either whisper EBT
or the people that would just proudly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Yell it because you would, you know, ask payment. Some
people be like, you know, they want to eb T. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Then there'd be some some people they're not even in
line yet, like yo, mine's EBT.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Like okay, my moms had food stamps and wasn't on
public assistance.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
People used to sell their food stamps yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Then my mom sent me to the store with the
food stamps. The homies worked there. Man, niggas think we
on welfare. Like, I'm like, nigga, my mom's keep. Some
lady she knows always sold food stamps. She was like, yeah,
fuck it, why not because it was out cheaper.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, you're coming out better if you're giving cash for
those ones with budget a grocery bill. Yeah, I'm buying
food stamp. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
But now my homie is the one that's bagging the
groceries and he seen me handing the lady food stamps.
Now when he get off and go back to the block,
guess who's on welfare.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Mall she put the stamp on his forehead. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Now I'm outside. I gotta fight to improve, you know
what I'm saying. Not we ain't on the public Like now,
I gotta fight everybody else out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
When I discovered, like discover your poor as a kid,
like by like other kids making fun of you because
like they was like, oh, you get like reduced lunch,
you get free lunch.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Niggas clowning me. I'm like, I thought that was cool.
You're poor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
You have to eat here, you have to come here
early and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Get like damn, you don't pay for your lunch.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Like, no, it wouldn't be a problem. School was better though,
Like it wouldn't have been.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
An elementary squad reduced lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
But like everybody that, I have to ask my mom
of how they I didn't need to be on reduced
lunch whatsoever. I don't know how she she moved that
whole It's called work the system, work the system. And
it wasn't like you really weren't even getting that much
off on it, Like it was like two three dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
I wouldn't mind if the school, if the school lunch
or the school food in America was like up to
the standards of other countries, I wouldn't be mad at that.
But like, this ship is terrible that they feed us here,
Like who's eating tato tots and chocolate milk at eight
in the morning?

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
The turkey surprise still fire. I don't care what nobody say.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
That turkey with that gravy, with that mashed potato hit
as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I'm sorry that boxes that box that powdered them powdered
potatoes in that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
I don't think our ship is powdered. I don't know
you think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Somebody was mashing potatoes back, baby, did I got news
for you. It wasn't a potato in your school. No,
that was a box in water.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
They were busting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
That's all that shit was. That that wasn't real eggs,
or that it was box shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Oh, I don't eat people eggs like in real life.
I'm dom sure not eating no school eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Yeah you, but you never went back in that little
in the back of the cafeteria going to go in
the stock room.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
You see.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
My favorite ship was the nasty personal pizza shit. And
then they tried to put on the side iceberg letting.
Just my god, that's not that's probably that's probably worse
for you than the pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
School food in America is crazy, bro, It's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I mean, Demarus might remember. I don't know, peagcase, we're
a few years apart when.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
They added spicy chickens into the mix. When I was
in high school. Oh my god, you're a peach. Just
had my asshole burning like tabasco. That shit was always
them ships every.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Day I was having.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
When I finally went to like a public high school
and then we could go outside for lunch, that was
the greatest hit. We only do that junior and senior
year or yeah, because freshman sophomore week we did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
As a freshman, we was able to go outside a
blimpy subway McDonald's China. I was eating all that ship
on the afp all of that ship. What I couldn't
wait to go outside and get for. I was never
fucking with school food. Never was never a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
But I mean they had. I'm sure there's a dock
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
But like, imagine pumping all that like sodium, terrible food
into a kid, and then he has two more classes
after that, Like he's going to pay attention to He can't.
His stomach is all fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
His whole brain got scrambled. Oh you gotta take a
ship his stomach.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Now you're yelling at him for not paying attention.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
He's trying to focus on not shipping on you mad
that he can't count. But that was always in high
school they used to. I don't know if it was
a rumor or theory or whatever, but in retrospect was
probably true. Like the ship they would purposely put in
public school lunches was so you would ship to get
it out your system. So they wouldn't be liable for
anything that they're feeding you, like, get that, flush that out,

(01:21:50):
because if that's just staying in your stomach, I don't
believe that that was, you know that was It was
around the same time that everyone thought Little Kim was
getting hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Pumping stumps stump umb, stumped stump and see her as
a man's pump stump to marriage. Marriage, that's your problem.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
It's a pump stump.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Listen, your pump stumped Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I'm like when when Big Boy rapped, I can addict yourself.
Whatever the he flipped it on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
It's cool man, Well, you know a hip he's sleepy.
He school morning. That's I'm very sleepy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
By the way, all right, let's get sleepy. No, I
have the right to rock Nation, like I literally have
to leave very soon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
All right. Cool Well.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Shout out to rock Nation artists.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
They cursed out by rock Nation, which should be fun.
What but I mean, I'm just gonna yell outside that
they'll they'll crumble. Yeah, you won't see the last of me.
I know, Torri Lanes Pops. I love rock Nation. They're
not involved in the Paleo case.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Shout out to rock Nation everybody up there, all we'll
talk to you. I soon be safe, be blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
I'm the nigga. He's just ginger. Don't eat school lunch.

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