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November 20, 2025 • 92 mins

Usually we got a guest for y'all on Thursdays, but this week we're flipping the schedule. Seasonal depression is real, but we got you with a new episode earlier in the week than usual. Usher suing Bryan-Michael Cox has Rory interrogating Mal about DVSN's "If I Get Caught" music video and where the funds came from. There is no reason why anybody should be throwing down at a Leon Thomas concert. Mal translates for Wale 'cause he wasn't standing ten toes down during his Breakfast Club interview. Plus, Mal thinks New Edition might be the greatest music group of all-time, but can they win a Verzuz against the Jackson 5? #volume

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume, no.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cheers, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
That was Oh my asses are back. All the nova
cane has worn off. We're still getting used to the
tempts though. Okay, but oh there's still the tempts. They're
not the real ones. Yeah, I don't get the real
ones till the day before Thanksgiving. You got fake teeth?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Can I see him?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's just my teeth, but they're just fake. No, I'm serious.
It's just a mold of what my teeth were before,
but it's they're fake. Yeah, while they make like the
real veneers and everything. Do you like? Yes, I have
fake the change?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Do you like the change?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
There's really there's no change now. They're just fake, Like
it's literally a mold of what my teeth were before,
like chips and all are still here, but they're just
like fake.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh okay, so there's nothing to be excited about yet.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
No. So yeah, now I'm just getting used to even
having the tempts because you can you can feel it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You had dentures, Can you take them out?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And in No, No, they're like you have dentures. He
doesn't have dentes to matters. They're like, it's just me,
you only have gumsy and mouth like you don't have
no teeth. He has teeth in his mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh okay, this isn't a plug, but how great they were.
They did throw in a mouthguard for free, which I
didn't know. Mouthguards are like five hundred bucks. Oh, because
apparently just a very calm human being like me, you
would be surprised. You know, I grind my teeth at night,
like when I sleep. I'm not me, I do too. Yeah,
so I need to get my teeth as well. So

(01:31):
I need to get a mouthguard. Do you sleep the one?
I was thinking about it though, I don't know. I
feel like I won't be able to sleep if I have.
I feel like I'm a football practice. It's not well yeah,
yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's a mouthpiece, but it's not as I don't think
it's as obnoxious as a football mouthpiece.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Though, And what if, like you know, sometimes when you're
sleeping with your soulmate, sometimes the middle of the night,
like sometimes the mood arises, Like then I got to
take the mouthguard out.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
You wake up in the middle of night to have sex?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, I mean now, because I'm not having sex with anyone.
But once I'm sleep, I'm sleep. See you on the
other shoe. I've never had some time see you on
the other side of the moon. Dabe Malls definitely had
some rollover loving when you just roll over in the
middle of the night.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, in the morning, like it's like the sun push
your butt on, not like not night. If we go
to sleep at twelve, I'm not waking up at three thirty,
like yo, it was good.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Like really no, I'm sound like a frequent thing, but yeah,
it's definitely happened multiple times when you're like in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now we're doing like Bedrock Sundays, I'll go to sleep
and wake up and like and it felt like it
was like a whole new day and it was like
you just left. Especially now like you take do you
fall asleep at two thirty on a Sunday and wake
up at six you think it's a whole new day. Yeah,
it's like, yo, what it's nine thirty, Like six fifteen.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
You wake up mad confused to like looking.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
At it dark and feel like, you know, it slept
ten hours four hours in the past, especially now when
it goes you know, when it gets dark around four thirty. Yeah,
they got to get rid of rid of that daylight saving. Shit,
I'm on that side now.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But it's amazing the things like I'm on the side
of now as an adult, like, yeah, we can get
rid of daylight savings. Once I found out people in
Arizona don't know nothing about that, I was.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Like, is that true? They don't do that? No, okay,
what is it for farmers and crops or something which
I still never fully understood. I'm sure there's a deeper
conspiracy to it that is insane. It probably something to
do with the roth Child's I could just say definitely,
because even though it's only in a mass, something to
do with our banking system. I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's just very simple. It's very simple. People who wake
up y'all don't wake up in the morning to go
to work. But people who wake up in the morning
to go to work, they want a little bit of
light to when they go, like to work.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now, yes, right in the morning in the winter, it's dark,
Like I remember walking to the bus stop and it'd
be dark.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, it would be darker and it would take longer
to get light if they didn't do daylight savings.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Okay, So it says the historical and traditional purposes, it
was to save energy. The original goal was to conserve
fuel and energy by decreasing reliance on artificial lighting, maximize
evening daylight. Shifting clocks for it creates more usable daylight
in the evening, which was thought to encourage which was
thought to encourage outdoor activities after the workday. Makes sense.

(04:09):
You like to go out after work? Baby? Do you
need a little sunlight still out?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well? I mean I kind of maybe it's just the
morbid in me. I do like in the winter that
it gets darker earlier, Like let's let's close the day
a little earlier. Summer I love, I love where it
could stay light till eight pm. That's amazing. It's a summer,
let's be outside. But in the wintertime and it's cold, Yeah,
let's shut this stay down around four forty five.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I never know. I never know how many people I
knew they had seasonal depression, Like I know a lot
of people. I'm just like, and I'm starting to notice it,
Like I'm like, oh, you have seasonal depression, like you
you get into a little funk around the fall, like summer, spring,
total different person, four winter.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, they called me four seasons it's not a seasonal things.
That's four seasons. No, they call you something else? What
you want to come to work?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
No more?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Man, we want to come to work at the workplace.
When I leave, when I get hold, what the fuck man,
I can't do ship. It's work depression. I got work depression.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
But no, seasonal opressions is definitely real.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well you don't. You don't suffer from seasonal depression at all.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, I'm just depressed all year round, all four seasons.
I don't care what it's doing outside. Fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh that's how I give it up. So you finally
admit that depression is real. Yeah, depression, better better help
me have you back after all? No, No, I said suicide.
Here we go with suicide. I didn't say what all
I said was suicide. I didn't say what mm hmm.
Called Rory. Had better help. When you're referring to the doors,

(05:45):
it won't let me work there. They won't won't let
me work. You work there? Just called Rory, He'll help
you out. I mean, do you think seasonal pression comes
from having to be inside or just cold in general? Lack?
I think the hoes like to be naked and when
they can't be naked no more. They got you know,
I don't know if that's really what we define seasonal pressure,
but I see they make the culture. They can't show
well some whole show ass, I mean show ass in

(06:06):
your house. I think it's maybe probably just yes what well, actually, yes,
the magic the OnlyFans dot Com Forward slash everybody.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, you can definitely pay bills from home for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah. They probably get more work done in the winter,
of course. Yeah, unless we've flown out. Yeah, it's the
busy season. Actually, I'm sure winter is their busy season. No,
it's all the guys are inside, not doing ship. Everybody's depressed,
just hand.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's like their tax season, just hammering their hogs.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So seasonal depression sick.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Seasonal depression is caused by disruption in the body's internal clock,
primarily due to reduce sunlight during certain seasons, which can
lead to imbalances and the brain chemical serotonin and melatonin.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Oh see, that's why we got to get rid of
daylight savings. There's nothing so help seasonal depression.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Okay, So so baby, they we are we are gonna
lose like darkness. I mean we're gonna it was light
no matter what, whether we observe daylight.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Savings or not.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Daylight savings is to try to give you a little
bit more light during the day.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
There's it'll be the same amount of light no matter.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
What, but they change the clock so that you get
a longer day.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Are you seeing what I'm saying? Save amount of light?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Somebody in Arizona see how this affects them because they
know nothing about it.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
They don't know they don't observe daylight savings time, but
they also get a different amount of sunlight than us.
They're on a totally different coast. They're a totally different
part of the world for their.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Coast part of the world. I mean, it's like a two.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Hour flight Arizona, Arizona is like a four and a
half hour depending on what you are well, I mean
if you're in Nevada. Yeah, I thought you were referring
to where we were at the this year, right, same shit.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
But yeah, like the light, the amount of light we
get will be different. It's just when you see that
light will be at different times.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is that that town that went viral on the grounds?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Let's see what the groundhogs think?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is there groundhogs in the Arizona Desert a whole. The
rattlesnake shadow tells them that the cat has the town
made it to y'all algorithm on Instagram. It's like the
town that has twenty four hour sunlight for half the
year and then like twenty four hour darkness for the
other half. I've heard everyone leaves their watches at the
bridge because they no longer need this. I don't believe

(08:16):
that's a bro No, No, The whole video is certainly AI,
but I wasn't sure if it was really a town
or not. It's it's not Alaska, it's it's somewhere Alaska.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, there's a couple of.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Them, including j Barrow.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's Alaska. That's on Long Year begin Valordsval.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
His name in the place Long Years, funniest ship.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Long Year. And you do get to like the root
of a lot of names, not the western ones that
we changed, like York and Jersey, but like the real names. Yeah,
they're all very simple, like it's green here, that's what
the word means.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
In Norway, Trump's Norway. The city experience is the midnight
sun for about two months.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think that's the one, the Norway one. What was
crazy because they showed like all this winter shit and
they were like, sometimes you can see people playing soccer
at four am, and I'm like, it's nothing but mountains
of snow and the shit who's playing soccer? So that's
why I didn't know if it was real. Would you
do the Antarctica trip? I know the flat earthers did
it and became non flat earthers, but they saw the

(09:18):
twenty four hours, so.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I would do that trip. I don't know if I
want to see that.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I would just want to see Antarctica and maximize my
time by seeing it because it never gets dark.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Antarctica I would like to see, But I don't know
if I want to see a sun for fucking six
was it six weeks straight?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Experience the sun though for about two months? Well yeah
six weeks, nah, eight weeks, but that's what I'm saying.
The city experience is the midnight sun for about two
months during the summer.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
No, I wouldn't want that. I don't want to see
the sun for two months straight.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I would.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
The sun makes me happy, The sun gets me up.
If it's a I can always tell if it's raining
before I open my fucking eyes. Because I have such
a hard time hurting up.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You know, old black mothers like to tell you it's
gonna rain.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
No be the knee, her knee, the knee, sirted feet, back, arm.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But we needed this, we needed this, yeah, the middle
New York City, we needed this, We.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Needed this ring.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, now it's just dirty or here.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, I think the rain clean cleans New York. It brings,
it brings up all the dirt.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
No.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I mean sometimes these sidewalks be so filthy, like I know,
I know when it needs to like down poor rain,
Like you can see juice on the sidewalk for three
four days. I'm like, all right, bro Like.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But the way it's been downpouring in New York not
to be too local, and it's been flooding.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
New York's been flooding. That's weird as fuck. Like why
it was all.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
The leaves that was like, they don't they're not cleaning
the drains. I knew that was gonna happen on Like
you still see so many leaves. I'm like, like, where
the street clean is the street sweepers at? I don't
even see those no more like.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
That you do when you're about to get a parking ticket.
They just pop up.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But that's the only time to feel they're like bloody
marry in the mirror. Have you ever looked at the
street sweepers, Like sometimes the brush is not even hitting
us the street. They just and I'm like, well, you're
not clean and shit, you just you just circling the block.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm going to take a video next time on my
block of when the street sweepers call. They literally it's
like if you just went in a dusty ass kitchen
and just went like this and then walked out.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, that's like that we could get I think we
could get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
They leave like a wet line and then all the trash,
dust and dirt there too. Now there's just a wet line.
That's all they do. Sometimes the brush is like not
even hitting the street, it's just moving.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
It's not I've noticed that for years. I'm like, I
don't don't think I think we can get rid of
this part of the sanity.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Or just like a new version of it that like
sucks up the garbage or like I just feel like
that's one thing that they have not advanced when they
could have with street sweepers. Yeah, but I mean I'm
Donnie's gonna do it. Donnie's gonna We'll probably be able
to just just walk into a street sweeper. They probably
just parking with theyre using the ignition and you can
just do it yourself.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
They're gonna use you for a street but that's what
you about to be the street sweeper, that's for sure.
But uh, where are we at? I know it's been
a sort of a slow news week.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Why yeah you telling me Usher and Brian Michael Cox's beefing?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
They not beefing? Ain't I beefing? You got to be Cox?
Be Cox posted a he he posted a response to it. Okay,
well I think a company. He was like that was
like like a minority like investor into something like that
in Usher going through something.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's not Brian Michael Cox specifically, but still involved. So
for those that haven't read this, Brian Michael Cox and
his company, we're trying to open up like a restaurant
lounge in Buckhead, Atlanta. Usher invested one point seven million
dollars into it. A year passes and nobody even bought
a property. So Usher's like, yeah, let me get my

(12:40):
money back. I believe they gave him a million back,
but not the other seven hundred thousand, and now he's
suing for four point nine million in damages because he
hasn't received this seven hundred thousand dollars back. I did
not see what be Cox's response was. If you want
to fill them in on that and fill me up.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Oh no, he just he just posted that him and
Usher's relationship is still very much intact. It was just,
you know, a company that he or a venture that
he was there goes right here. I've learned a lot
recently about being careful with who you choose to invest
in a business with, no matter how small the investment.
I'm currently in the middle of a failed deal that
I didn't orchestrate, and while the situation has been disappointed,

(13:18):
I know my name will be cleared by both sides.
It's just unfortunate that this clarity didn't come sooner. My
legal team has also advised me of a lawsuit involving
in company where I am only a passive minority shareholder.
I was not a participant in that business transaction and
have no involvement in the ongoing legal process. While I'm
unable to share more details right now, I want to
make one thing absolutely clear. My twenty seven year friendship

(13:41):
with Usher remains fully intact. I appreciate everyone who has
reached out with concern. Thank you for the love, the
patience and understanding. So yeah, it just sounds like, you know,
they had as friends, they had an idea to open
the lounge, you know, try to do something together, and
sometimes you know, things don't go away everyone had anticipated
or hoped and Usha is probably like, all right, well shit,

(14:03):
I want my money back. And you know, because Michael
Brian Michael Cox is a minority shareholder in this investment,
and you know they're gonna attach it to Brian Michael
Cox as well. But I was glad that he to
see that because when I first read it, I was like,
damn be Cox and Usher's beefing, Like, oh man, but
this is.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Just a could lead to some good writing material.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, this is just a business venture that just didn't
go the way I think all parties anticipated. And Usher
is seeking to get his money back, and Brian Michael
Cox is just a part of the the investment.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Josh, can you pull up on YouTube because you don't
got to be specific YouTube division. If I get caught
DVSN hmm, not the Division sign if I get caught,
so damarus. When I read this article, initially it said
that the money was used for other things, and then
it brought me back to how expensive that video Division

(15:00):
did with Mal with Friends of the Show Lex Andrea, Like,
this was a really expensive video. And when the article
said the money was used for other things, now I'm
starting to think ba Cox maybe paid Mall a little
extra from his fee to get him to Atlanta and
do this video. Are you a minority share owner in
this company as well?

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Mo?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, I ain't like that.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No, I have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I feel like you were shocked. I just connected all
the dots and you've been caught this video if I
get called ironically is the name of the song?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, that that is the name of the song which
has Mal has nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I mean, be guy's right there right next to you.
Everyone looks at the guy. Everyone looks like they have
a lot of money in this video. Yeah, that that
had nothing to do with me, Like, like I could
do whatever with it.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
We had a great time, had a great day shooting,
and everybody went home and that was it, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
But did you see a card come out who like
put the build during this whole thing. Are you ever
concerned and look at this car?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
What type of this you would have to I believe
that was a my box Okay, yes, unless they reboop
him my ride.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I've never seen a mayback with a hookah dispensary in it.
That seems like something that you would have to pay
high dollar for. I'm around like one point seven million.
This is kind of what this video felt like to me.
That was a Daniel exclusive right there.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
The way they had that just take that, the way
they had that ship taped in the back. I was like,
I don't think niggas smoke cucka in the car, but
whoever own.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
That mayback, shout out to them, because you know people
will bring their cars to video shoots to rent them out.
Imagine you got your mayback at a video shoot. You
see someone lighting a coal, I would lose my fucking mind.
No he did, though I know he was smoking hooka
in that. Homie was like really nervous about that. That
whoka the whole night. Was it electronic or it was
really cold? I think it. I think it might have

(16:53):
been real cold.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
He wouldn't have been nervous about electronic.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I think it, but I think it was real cold.
But you know they had the foil with it up
where it wouldn't like fall off one speed bump and
buckhead is sending that cold in the mall's lap.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah. Sometimes though we had a good time shoot never
do Okay, so you.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Can assure that this this came directly from LVRN.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
O v O. Yes, the thing I think LVRN, you know,
covered this and everything was fine.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean tax records, I think are public. If you're
a questioning, we can we can do some digging.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
What you mean if I get caught cheating, I don't
mean I don't love you like it just be shit.
That just don't make sense that you turn into a song.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I don't mean think I think they're a pretty director.
What is there ast act whatever? I was just wondering.
She ain't make no sense to me. I'm sorry, y'all
go back. You think that if somebody teaching, that means
they don't love you.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I think that love is a is an action, and
part of part of the verb of love is making
a commitment, not only just the commitment, the honesty portion.
We go into that because I'm currently reading all about
Love by Bell Hooks, and there's just so much more
that goes into the verb love. I think people can
care about somebody, show affection system, and have feelings for somebody,
but to actively verbally, I mean, as a verb love them.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
No, So you don't believe in making mistakes.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I believe in making mistakes. But cheating ainate a mistake,
that's a choice. Didn't take mad steps to get the cheating.
I know I cheated before mad steps.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Sometimes the choices you make or turn out to be mistakes.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
No, because a mistake is something like damn, like I
called you like mill and your name is Maul. That's
a mistake, Like I didn't mean to do it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You're never intentionally not intentionally made a mistake, but intentionally
done something and then afterwards like that was a real mistake.
Even though I was very lucid in what I was doing,
I now know that that was a complete mistake on
my behalf.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
It was a choice. It just was a bad one.
It was a bad choice. It wasn't a mistake. It's
accidentally you accidentally do something that's a mistake. You just
made a bad choice or a choice that you regret,
it's not a mistake.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
So if you okay, So if you're out right now
with your girls and you know, your party and dinner,
having a good time doing what y'all do.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
A guy's at dinner.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Somebody's friend is a guy, y'all start just flirting whatever,
and you kiss him, but you're like, you're you know,
you've been drinking.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I'm just saying you've been drinking. It's like, you know,
you didn't.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Really mean to kiss him, but then you realize right
after kiss him, like damn, Like that was crazy, Like
that's never happened.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You never made mast.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Steps to get to that kissing.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
It's mad because you had to feel something for that
person before you even kiss them. And the moment you
had any type of feeling that was inappropriate or something
that you or your partner didn't agree upon, you should
have got the fuck up out of there and realized, WHOA,
this is inappropriate?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay? I would say Gary V is a good good
source of reference here right. Gary V says a mistake
is an unintentional error, often caused by oversight, misunderstanding, or
lack of information, while a bad decision is a conscious,
deliberate choice to do something wrong or with a poor outcome.
So a key role is intent and accountability. Mistakes are accidents.

(19:52):
Bad decisions require ownership of the action and its consequences.
I'm mistakenly made a bad choice, you say.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
To that baby, d She's kick I'm sorry, my bad, sorry,
I was what I think. I'm sorry I didn't hear it.
And see, I'm gonna listen back just to hear what
you just said, because I didn't say.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was just wondering.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
No, I was just I remember when you were in
that music video and I was just like, look at
what Mall's champion?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
What did he champion? The song?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
That message?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I was just hanging out with my homies for the night,
Like I didn't.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
They labeled when they were casting the eight Ship best Friend,
they said, I know who fits this Mall.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well he played it. That's the wrong That's all they get.
They didn't mean to give me that title. It was
a restakingly good decisions. Wait, it wasn't. What was the
end of the video, wasn't It ended up being like, no,
my phone, it was your phone.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, Drea found my I left my phone at the
house and she thought it was Daniel's phone.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So she was standing outside waiting for us to get
back so she could raise Hell, she's already like toy
his ship up in the house, did all of that,
and then we get back and I'm like, oh shit, damn,
I left my phone, so it was like my phone.
I mean, I'm the single friends girls, Yeah, girls could
be texting me, but she's thinking girls are texting Daniel's phone.
So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Feel like you would know, as someone that has used
that excuse when being abruptly woken up out of their sleep,
I feel like you would know if this was your
man's phone.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Enough plot hole, because why ain't no text for me
in there?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know, delete, deleting your girl's text messages and keeping
the others the.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Wildest Yeah no, but she didn't get into I think
she stre like the lock screen, you can see the
texts coming in, and she probably seemed like, you know,
different girls texting, but you know something you know, but
you're thinking, You're trying to think like logical, you know,
in that moment when you already think your man is
like doing dirt and you think you found the smoking

(21:48):
gun and you don't realize that ain't his gun. Like
it's easy to like overlook the factly that ain't even
his phone.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Nah, nah, it's a plot hole in that. I would know,
you know they lived together. It ain't like like they
live together. She knows what his phone looked like.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Ah, he could have a second phone. Let's pay that.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
No, that's a big that's that's big. No, No, you
got a second phone or your girl don't know you
a whole new.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Could have thought. I just found Daniel's second phone, like,
not his main phone, his other one. Okay, so yeah,
I don't think that's a pothole in the descript he
found like he got two phones or.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
You say, you don't think it's so what pothole? Plot
plots hole?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, but yes, we paid. Can't paid that pothole. The
l's don't roll out to the new.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
They left. They let the l's at this office got
to extra for Yeah, you gotta get your l's back.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Glenndelle gave me a great discount with left the ls l's.
I gotta pay.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
That's a texture for that.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
I've never been in a music I feel like everybody
on staff has been in a music video, but me,
Uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Shut your own video. That is true.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
You had a video before all of us. That's whatever.
But I mean as an actor or actress, I've never
been in a music video. Y'all have y'all like video hos.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Uh you've been in.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
A couple, you've been in your own, you've been in
other people's.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Oh yeah, no, I've actually not I think about it.
I have been in a lot of music videos. They
gave more a lot of shit for that, and I
just quietly sat like I've been way more doing way
worse things than all music videos.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, that was the homies. It was just the homeie
just hanging out for the day and just recorded it.
That's all that shit was literally hung out for the night.
It came out great and pressed record. That's all of
that was so.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
It was fun though we could stay on music. I
feel like we we were the trend setters for having
brawls at shows that don't warrant it whatsoever. In the
greater DMV area. We had a fight at our show
at Howard theaterre was that last year, Yes, last year

(24:03):
for some reason, there was a fight that broke out
at a podcast show m HM. That was resolved quickly
and we continued on, nobody was harmed. But then I
see this morning that they were fighting at a Leon
Thomas show, and Leon Thomas even put a comment under,
so I got no songs that weren't the shit? Yeah, like,
what song was you fighting like? I ain't got nothing in.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
His catalog that feels like knuck if you buck? Like
it ain't no reason for y'all to be fighting at
a least.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I'm trying to think what I like, what's the jakewan
Hood hop beat? That could be the same bpm in
the Mutt Like maybe they did a remix and yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
But the context, the lyrics, it's the vibe.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Have a dog, I'm a mutt. Let's fight, Yeah, but
that ain't fighting at it.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I never understood fighting at like shows like that, like
definitely the live podcast, but then like an R and
B show, see.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Don't do that ye fight for letus Now we diffused it.
We almost got a fight at a Summer Walker show
at Awerie Ballroom, like her first show ever, when it
was only like fifty people in the crowd. I almost
all of us why it was definitely the other people's fault.
We diffused it because we were like, well, we're trying.
We're gonna about to fight at a summer Walker show.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
We were upstairs and yeah it was it was their fault.
They were being weak, Okay, but yeah it was. It
was close.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Now I'm now hold on because I could understand people
fighting at an R and B show. If you see
your significant other day with somebody, you didn't think that
they was Yeah, you know, it could be okay, I
didn't think about that. Yeah, it could be date night
for somebody and you ain't know your you know, your
buo was going out on something like it could be
somebody got caught cheating.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Can imagine imagine you see your girl's location and it's
at the Fillmore in Maryland, you google, oh shit, Leon
Thomas show, and then you try to go and the
ticket sold out. So now you're just sitting outside waiting
for her. I can't even go and surprise her.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm not doing that. I'm not sitting outside no show
that I know my girl is that way for to
come outside. I just don't want that because I know me, man,
I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Dressing in public would be a bit.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah. I don't want that problem. I don't want that.
I would just I mean, it's sometimes easy to just
be like, yo, you know what, do your thing. As
hard as that is, you know, just do your thing.
I'm not going to jail for no, no pushy, I
ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
But also don't do that. There's words have been exchanged
division shows before of people that claimed they could fight
and that didn't want to. But maybe it was because
it was a division show that was the reason. Who
would fight at the R and B show? But I mean,
we're civilians. That person is a certified thug, so I
thought it was always old. What do I know? But yes,
people fight at R and B shows. Yes, And we

(26:35):
definitely almost got shaken at a Summer Walker show, which
is insane. I don't remember at Bowery Ballroom, of all places,
I don't remember that on the balcony too, there's not
really much room to fight. I can't remember that. I mean,
I do remember being able, I don't remember that almost fight.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Well.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'm glad nobody was hurt. And I feel for Leon too,
because venues don't really research shit. They just see headlines.
And it's like, now, Leon could look like a lie.
But even though obviously he's not was he able to
finish the shut up a lot for artists.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Was he able to finish the show that they didn't
like fully say, but I mean, I just like the
fact that he went online and shit, listen, I ain't
got no songs that warrant. Yeah, Like this is like
I don't hear nothing that I was performing with warrants.
Try to stop?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
What was the was it when fifty was doing like
his Vegas residency and they hooked him to the ship
and he was flying like fifty has no songs for you,
flying over the crowd.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
It's just weird when rappers start doing like pop artist
ship think it's hilarious. It's like what you doing?

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Man?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like why are you flying around the arena?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
We also don't talk enough about fifty being upside down.
You look at fifty knowing fifty, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Knowing fifty he did this ship on purpose, like yeah,
he know, like he know he ain't supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
That, yo. He was not that one like fifty. No,
he ain't supposed to be suspended midair and this looks
like it's sound check. He just chilling out, yo. That
is hilarious. Doing that to many men would be hilarious
just flying over and pointing at many men. But I mean,

(28:14):
if I was a superstar like fifty was and had
the budget that he did at this point, I would
just start checking things off my bucket list, like when
he does these world tours. I would just find the
wildest things that I could do.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, fifty ain't not supposed to be not supposed to
be like suspended midair though.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like did you see the video of Chris Brown's mom
when she wanted to do the look at me now
run that he does in the stadiums Oh yeah, like
before the show. It's like an amusement park ride. If
I was on that tour, I would one thousand percent
ask like, hey, like before y'all do sound check, you
matter if I strap.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
End me up and spin me around the arena real
quick and.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Then give me a mic and let me try like
to sing.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Would y'all ry, do you plan on going to Leon's show?
I mean, I hope you not shooting hands, but you
know he's here this weekend in New York.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
If I can get a vibsitter, yeah, I feel like
Leon's been on tour for like three years straight, so
he needs a break. Yeah, and how is he putting
out these amazing EPs while he's also singing every single night? Yeah,
I hope Leon takes twenty twenty six to like chill.
Where's he at this?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Where's he at this week?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You said this weekend?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, he's here this weekend, He's here Sunday and Monday.
Where's he performing the Actually I am not sure.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'll look that up.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I would definitely want to check me on out. Love.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Why you want to go with me?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
No, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, I'll go fuck myself as cool at Brooklyn Paramount,
which I mean, if you're listening to this, that the
show has passed. But Joey Badass is there tonight, which
I know will be a good show.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
If you're listening to listening to this, the show has
not passed.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Joey Bass, Oh, joe is tonight. As we're recording this,
it'll pass by the time they hear this. But yeah,
Leon Thomas November twenty third is in Brooklyn and the
twenty fourth as.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, both at Brooklyn Paramount.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, is he taking Thanksgiving off?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
At least they got the drinks and I'm going back
to bag. I hear lea wait, which which day is
the twenty fourth. Oh, I could do Monday.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Ooh, I could do Monday.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Monday is my day. Ooh, I could do Monday when
you don't really get very many games. I heard, I
heard it. I heard the like it's a lot. Like
I can't go to the Joey Badass Show tonight, which
I would love to, but I can't. Yeah, that happens
because surprisingly, in New York, most shows are during the
week because they're going to sell out, whereas they try
to focus on smaller markets for the weekend because they

(30:36):
do better. In New York, people are going out every night.
It doesn't matter. So usually I have to miss most
of the shows because they're they're during the week, but
after work on Monday I usually have off. So, like,
should we go as a family? I'm down. When was
the last time you were in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Last weekend?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh? Wow, okay, I'll bet Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
They know me in Brooklyn. They love me out too,
they know you?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, they love me anyways to be a mall yeah
you hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Brooklyniggas don't know you, bro. Brooklyn niggas don't know you, bro.
You crazy? You know what I used to be doing?
They know me, no, no, tell us No, definitely not Leon
Thomas November twenty fourth and twenty third, But you I
would definitely want to check me out out. I like him.
I want to see his h what his live show
looks like.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Where do you think they don't know?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
You don't know me? I mean, it's a lot of
places they don't know me. Not I mean New York.
It's very hard for me to go in a borrow
and not know the right people because some of y'all
be knowing people in burd Blaine White know that nigga.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Fuck about that nigga and you know him?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Man?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Wait all right, So then what's the definition of they
know me out there? If somebody know me out there?
Don't they know me out there?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, But it's a difference. It's like when you know
the right people. I get what you're saying, but but
I don't know if the random random people don't know me,
like nobody knows them the movers and shakers, Okay, got
you got the people that niggas know know me? Okay, yeah,
all right, but what what is the line and the
scale of that? Like they have to be a part
party promoter, they have to be like no party promoters.

(32:03):
I don't want no party promoters to know me.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Usually, I'm saying you, Usually that's a front for something. No,
just like you know the guys. You know the guys
are talking about.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
They ain't afraid the guys. Yeah, they not promoting no parties.
They don't want to be on no flyers. They ain't
doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, I guess I think I think they know me
in Brooklyn. Oh no, they ain't know me in Brooklyn. Yeah, No,
for sure.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
People in Brooklyn absolutely, Mom, when I said it's sound foreign.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Because I wanted you to explain to the people with
I know what you were trying to say. But some
people could take that as like, yeah, I got like
two friends from college that live in Brooklyn. They know.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's a whole different thing. That's definitely not what I
was saying.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, when you walk in you are protected. Yes, they
know malls and tell you I'm checking with him, just going.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
To see the family. They want to see some good friends'
so man times in Brooklyn, of course.

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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Let's stay since so Leon in Maryland, d C. Did
you see the Wiley clip? I believe it was Breakfast
Club right. He was talking to Charlotmagne and he said
that he was talking to Cole and Kendrick about you know,
he has a child on the way, and talked about
some of his problems and just venting to the homies.
And then the next fucking day j Cole put out
false profits. Mm hmm, can we play the clip?

Speaker 6 (34:06):
I remember I called Kendrick around that time. We talked
about like like we just had that was at that time,
and I remember like like getting ready.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
To have my child.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I talked cold.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
That was probably only two times I really leaned on
an industry person, you know. So, But the crazy thing
is FoST prophets came up the next day, post came
out this very next day after. But I ain't take it,
you know what I'm saying. But I think, nah, but

(34:41):
I mean he said it's not really about me. But
I mean, all I'm saying is that that's that's my
I love him, that's my brother.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
I just I mean, I think I kind of halted
telling any industry and anything too deep like around that time,
like I just like, you know what, I only don't
even want to think that they're using this.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
So nigga, what what didn't you understand? That sounds like
he was getting cut off. He's like saying, I ain't
want to you know what I say, MA say what
you're saying? That was nah, That's what I'm saying. You
say what you're saying that was whack. And as a
result of that, I don't really be talking to these
rat niggas because I don't know if they're using like

(35:25):
personal conversations for content.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
And that's what he was saying. But that's what he
that's what he wanted to say, but that ain't what
he said. He said it though like not no, I don't,
he said, but saying like that, no people he used
against me.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But that's the thing in this industry because wile A
is a nice guy by nature, very nice guy. And
then when you find out that everybody ain't nice and
everybody ain't the way you are, then you get on
these platforms and you don't want to say it because
you don't want to seem like you're talking nobody about
nobody and not respect it about. But sometimes you got
to be like yo, listen, man, Homie did some wax shit.
And as a result of that, I don't really be
opening up to rappers and trying to get too cool

(36:06):
with these niggas because they move funny just.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Say that shit. But I'm not about first, so I'm
not gonna let you do that because the timeline is
is a little a little off with this, and it
definitely was resolved. And I also think j Cole, out
of all the rappers, is probably just as equally nice
as a human being as Wiles Cole.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
No knocking, I'm just saying wile was sounding like he
wanted to say something at the same time he didn't
want to say nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Now, in fact, if in fact they had that conversation
on let's say the first and then false profits dropped
on the second. I have to give so much credit
to Cole Felt in the creative team. The fact that
you could write that record and make Jamaica Avenue into
Willie Wanka Chocolate factory video. Wow, what a turnover to

(36:53):
put it out. But I'm sure he was probably paraphrase.
I'm sure it came out shortly after. But then while
a put out Groundhog's Day, which I think is one
of the more underrated I don't think it's a dis
more underrated responses like it still has replay value to me.
I still love groundhog Day. And then they went to
the I think it was a North Carolina game. The
next day they were sitting courts out together like they
resolved the entire thing. Yeah, and I don't think I'm

(37:15):
not saying it's beef me. It's like, you know, what's rap.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
You can have a little friendly like fire, like a
friendly little like back and forth with dudes that you're
really cool with.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So, just to clarify, y'all are telling me that y'all
think false prophets. It's about wi.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, I think one verse about Kanye and one verse
about wile A. What was the first verse?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I'm trying to remember, maybe d I'm just speaking to
in this in this clip that y'all just showed me,
while A seemed like he wanted to say something but
that he didn't want to because it's resolved, And no,
I get it, I understand it, But then don't speak
on it. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Why not you can still.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Speak about some The first verse being about Kanye makes sense, right,
second verse.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Is the one that you would say would be about
wile Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Absolutely, which I mean we we've covered when it came out.
Obviously that was a big week on Twitter of what
who's who were the verses about? But yeah, and if
if Wiley had a conversation with Cole, who he was
on tour with at the beginning of his career, slept
in the same tour bus, somebody that he probably can
fid with, like, not just some random stranger that also raps,

(38:27):
Like I'm pretty sure they had spent a lot of
time together in a real way. Yeah, when they were
I think it was a blueprint to three one whatever.
There's a footage of them in Denny's, like they they
lived together for a long time, they grew up together,
like that was their their college years more or less. Yeah,
I'm sure he said a lot of similar things to

(38:50):
him in this conversation, and Cole, having one of the
greatest pens ever, easily just put that on in rhyme form,
and while he was like, what the fuck, I just
had a conversation with you about all these talking points. Yeah,
but that's what I'm saying. I don't think what Cold
did was wrong.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Like, you know, sometimes you draw inspiration from real life things,
and if you had a conversation with the close front
of yours and it inspired you to write a verse,
like I like that. I respect that. I'm just saying,
you know, with Wila, because wile A is, you know,
we always give him as flowers. We always say that
he needs to be talked about more, and you know,

(39:27):
but in this clip, it just seemed like he had
something on his mind, on his heart that he wanted
to say, but then he didn't want to say something
that could be taken the wrong way. And things like that,
like that's all I'm speaking. So is just like he
sounded like he had something he wanted to say, but
at the same time he held back and was like, nah,
I don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, I mean, I guess this does go back to
conversations we've had just over the years. If if I
was Wila when this came out, I would I would
feel a way now outside looking and thinking what I
know wile A and Cold's relationship was at that time,
and things I SAI say to you you put on WAX.
I don't think this is a dys but it's like, damn,

(40:03):
you put our conversation in a song and didn't tell me.
Now if Cold have been like YO tomorrow, if you're mad,
I totally understand it. Here's the song. Just want to
give you a heads up. I would respect that more,
but I don't know if it's owed the older I've gotten,
which we've talked about multiple times, friends even in the
music industry that I consider friends not associates, I still

(40:23):
don't put as much stake into it as I used to,
of thinking that they would owe me anything the way
friends maybe you grew up with or don't work with
do so that happens, So I see what while they
is saying now of like, yeah, you can still talk
about feel a way and it's resolved and him and
Cole are cool. They shift, they put out a number

(40:44):
one record together with the Vibrant Thing sample like, but
I'm still like looking at it, like now I know
how to move with people I even thought were friends
in the industry per se. Yeah, I'm not just move
or I don't have to expect now if I say something,
it could be used against me. And that's in the
quarter of hip hop, in the court of hip hop,

(41:05):
yes for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
But okay, not cold caping, I swear because that needs to.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Be a friend is a classic record, not.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Even see what the cargan.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Okay, that was a cape.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I don't know if I'm Wila, which I've never been
wil A. I've never been famous and talented and all
of these cool things. So I know, I don't know
if I'm Wila if I hear that verse, if I'm offended,
I don't, or if I feel like I was betrayed.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
I don't know if I feel that way, because honestly,
that verse, the first verse can very obviously be set
up to be about Kanye, right, But the second verse,
if him and Yla weren't friends, nobody would I don't
think people would assume that that verse was about Wila
because that fits. That's about so many rappers that are
doing well but maybe not as well as they feel
like they should be doing, or comparing, you know, drawing

(41:54):
comparisons to their peers or anything like that. You can
make that verse about so many people in in the
music industry. So that's what I'm like that And even
even so, even if I did have that conversation with
my friend, I don't know if that's the same thing
that my friend told me in private, If it's the
same the advice that you give in the verse, If
it's the same advice that my friend gave me in private,

(42:16):
I don't know if I feel offended or if I
feel like I should have kept that to myself. For example, Roy,
you've used You've sent me lyrics that were like yo,
I draw I drew inspiration from you and Homie. Remember,
I can't be mad at you like you betrayed me
because I was honest about my love life and you
used it in a song like that's even if you
never sent it to me beforehand. If I heard that,

(42:38):
I'm like, hey, that's about yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
But that was very much more open ended than how
direct R and B opening R and B lyrics are
really for interpretation, Like they're not as specific as what
these rap verses are. In the way Cole masterfully put
this together, it made you want to guess who exactly
he was talking about the lyrics. I said you nobody

(43:00):
would sit there and go like, well, who exactly is
this about? With all the clues that are in there.
But here, here's the thing where I'm a hypocrite. In
this entire conversation. I've talked about personal stuff on this podcast,
whether it be significant others, whether it be my parents,
whether it be my family members, and I never asked
for permission, never even thought to give them a heads up,
Hey this, I'm talking about this tomorrow, it's going out.

(43:23):
So I'm a hypocrite. And we've got that way.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
We've all done that.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
So it's not like I don't understand what Cole did.
I've done it way more than Cole has, so I
get it. But I understand why significant others, my family,
my parents have felt away the same way. I think
while they would too. And on top of that, now
everybody's in my mentions, and I already told you some
of my anxieties with this entire thing, and that very

(43:47):
thing that you took is now adding to my anxiety
with all the fans in my mentions talking about the shit.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
So I get it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
But I think while they handled it fine, I was
talking about the past because they were reminiscent in that
Breakfast Club interview about kind of those four of Cole Drake,
Kendrick wil A and how they all started together. So
talking about the ups and downs, I don't think it's
a bad thing. And I'm sure while it's past, the ship,
but he probably is, Like I'm not. I'm keeping some

(44:17):
ship to myself, no matter who I think is a
close association in the industry with stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
No friends in the industry, my brothers and my brothers.
I mean kidding me, fat, that's the fact.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
But even then, like I don't even think anything that
jams y'all just jamming. Listen to what niggas be telling you.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm sorry, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I was fine, you fools listening to music and just
skimming through it.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I mean, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you
in the road. I went, I went, I was a
young angel, but these niggas turn me evil. That villain
origin story is gonna be classic. I'm telling y'all right now,
just that Villainori. We're gonna look back and like that's
the moment it happened. I'm telling y'all. But anyway, Yeah,
while shot the great album, I'm still bumping that, still

(45:05):
listening to that. Like it more and more every listen.
I do like the Summer Walker album too, So you've
finally given it some Yeah, I've been spending that the
last like Monday and then Tuesday, I was like, okay,
let me listen to the something. Let me see what
she was. She really gave us on this one.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Did to the Mariah album like I told you I did.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I've been told you.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I listened to that album.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I can't remember. We talked a lot in this podcast.
I forgot it. I forget a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, no, I listened to that. But I like the
Summer album. I'm what I like the sum album.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It's not it's very good.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Is there any other R and B you guys are
looking forward to like coming up.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I'm looking forward to Division quarter. I don't know if
they dropping. I don't know if they dropping fourth quarter, but.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Fourth or first or even just next year because we
got a lot this year. So is there anyone you're
looking forward to next year?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I think I don't think siss is going to take
as much time off R and B you tomorrow, mm hmm.
I think we'll get a siss A projects relatively soon.
I want to hear the new Maida project same. I mean,
I love the k Trinata one where she just took
a break off the cellar it made is another.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
As an artist that I don't think people talk about
enough when the ladies in R and B, like the
ladies in R and B, like you know, we throw
names around, but Mayda's name doesn't get brought up enough
and like she's super dope, like like you said, the
k Trinada project that was that was that was crazy.
But then when she gets into her full R and
B ballot bag, like Mada can sing her ass off. Yeah,

(46:33):
she ain't one of the you know, even though we
listen to the whispers, singers and all of that, Like
Maida is not that though she can like she can
go up there with just a piano and just a
mic and and tear sit up.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So for everybody that's m A. E.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
T A.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
If you've never heard of her, please go check her out.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Out the Mada Clio Soul. I look forward to trying
to think who would be in like album cycle at
this time, because we did get a lot. I'm just
looking back at twenty twenty four who dropped because maybe
twenty six would give us that. I mean Victoria Monet definitely.
I think that, Yeah, I think she would be somebody

(47:11):
that would. Jasmine Sullivan. Where's Jasmine at Hotels?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Is what?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Twenty three?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
She gave us that clink to twenty three?

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, twenty two maybe twenty one for that I was saying,
might but her her mom died?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, yeah a year ago or something.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, when did when did Hotels come out?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
That was like twenty into twenty twenty one? Top of
twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
If I'm not gonna say nah that y'all y'all tripping,
I think that might be too twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
It was not twenty twenty bit all right. I was
working for this podcast when it came out. It was
like twenty hotels.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Hotels came out. Yo, this is gonna trip you out
even more. January eighth, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one,
the top eight days in have this show. Yeah, we
didn't have the show till May twenty twenty one. Yeah, damn,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like I knew that shit was like and I was
I said twenty twenty January, Oh yeah, you know what
I'm thinking about the Deluxe when the Deluxe ye, yeah,
the Deluxe game later for sure, the Deluxe was a
real deluxe. It had like extra songs on that ship.
So yeah, yeah with Jasmine, I mean condolences. You know,
she lost some moms, but you had Jazmine Culliban that

(48:22):
that hotel is probably she dropped that on us, and
it's like, y'all hold that for the next five years
and let me know when one of these one of
these ladies catch up to this singing right here, because
they not catching up to Jasmine. I Love I Love
all the Jazmine sullivans O.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Kaylanie was actually talking about that. I had heard of
a clip of her basically saying like or a post
of her basically saying like Jasmine is not like these
women's peers, Like, let's not talk like Jasmine is like
one of the mothers of R and B at this point, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
She's one of the Absolutely she's from modern R and B.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Absolutely, Yeah, Jazmine Celman, she could be in the room
with you know.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
She's legacy, the legend. Yeah, but still very much relevant
and the songs.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Are like, it's not just like because I feel like
Jennifer Hudson has the issue of she hasn't been able
to keep up the music quality or the song quality
has not kept up with her voice quality, whereas with Jasmine,
she has the voice quality, but the songs are also
bomb as fucked too, Like it's not just yelling, it's
not she doesn't just showcase her voice.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
It's an over sing and not to say Jennifer does,
but that is usually the main part of the song,
which ends up being very much here's my ballads, here's
my version of pop, and here's a traditional Like Jasmine
really experimented with hotels that made it sound like the
era that it was in. It didn't even sound like
past Jasmine projects like she kept up. Yeah is a

(49:43):
classic a classic. Hell, yeah, absolutely, you know what I watched.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I watched the what was the Jasmine Sullivan? What was
the live series they was doing on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It was useful when she was singing with her with
the plants in the background.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Is that it that sounds familiar? I know her came out. Yeah,
and they did that song together.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
It was like mad plans in the background.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
She had like it was tiny desk, it wasting. It
was her tiny desk love from tiny desk. Oh you're
talking about her tiny desk, yes, okay, but it wasn't
in the tiny desk setup that they have now.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, this I watched this at least once a month,
like just to like, you know, you're going to just
hear some live music and see somebody Jazzmine Sullivan is
on an entirely.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Different level and she's so beautiful too, just full package
love her.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I'm curious what Lucky Day does, like what direction he
goes after Algorithm because they smoked out. I love that
album so much, but it was a very specific sound,
kind of outside of what Lucky had done prior. I'm
curious where he goes sonically form here m because he
did he did not take a full shift, but it

(50:53):
was it was different, And I'm curious what he wants to.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Do next, are you guys Friday fans?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, I love Friday.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I'm interested in seeing what he does next to Friday.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Friday's active too, like he'll put out Lucy's and stuff
like I really fuck with Friday. I hate the I
wish he'd lock in and just give us just focus
for two years on an album, because I think he's
capable of putting together an incredible, incredible project. But you
know he's he moves away. Younger artists need to move now.
You gotta stay active and not just say that it

(51:27):
doesn't take away from the quality, but if you if
you really just lock in and take some time. But
I don't know, do people care outside of like not
this podcast per se, but people like us. Do people
care that much about albums anymore?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, Like the casual fan, I'm not saying there's a
large group of people, like a huge group of people
like us that obsess over bodies of work. But I mean,
is that still if.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
You love R and B The thing, If you like
really love R and B music, you absolutely love albums
like R and B is one of those things like, well,
you know, when R and B artists used to make
the traditional R and B music, the album was like
the story. It was a whole like movie that they
put together. So I mean I was raised in that

(52:19):
type of R and B. Like the entire project was dope,
like from top to bottom, every song you loved, Every
song had its own meaning, and you know you just
wanted to be a part of that. But now you know,
you got R and B artists that put a song
out in January. They'll put a song out and then
they won't put out an another song until like August,
and you're like, yo, bro, I don't even know what

(52:39):
to like. You're gonna give us another single the end
of the year and then next year give us the
full like I don't. So it's like now I'm not
really attached to a full project because you're not giving
me the full project. You're giving me a song here,
let's see what it does. Then you give me another
song five months later. It's like I don't really want
to with the where's the album at give the whole project.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Which they need to stop doing too, because it's not
that single is not going to be a measure of
how the album is going to do or how people
are going to perceive the album. I think that if
you give us a good album, people care about your albums.
If you give us a good album, people will care
about your albums. But if you don't, then that's fine.
People won't care. But what you specialize in people will

(53:21):
care about. If you're a good featured artist, people will
always care about your features.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
They'll run to it. But you have to show us
our specialty before we can know what we want from you.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Give us the entree.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, but I mean I don't like I guess, for example,
an artist like Coco Jones who puts together great bodies work.
Do you think the labels in her ears saying focus
on singles or focus on take your time like disappear
and give us a body of work.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
I don't think they're saying let her disappear. I think
they're saying, focused on the album. But why you focus
it on the album? Give us what you whatever you
got over there in that lunchbox. Let me get a
piece of that until dinner's done.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Like yeah, but even like to multiple too, because I
feel you that it does suck when someone puts out
a single, five months past single, and then the album's
next year. Should I've done that? I a lot of
times the label will be like, yo, chill, I know
you're ready to go, but we need to work this
single's working a little bit, let us work it more.
And then five months past and it's like, well, my
fans are asking for music, and like, all right, we'll

(54:19):
give another one. Then we'll work that single, and now
you're on a whole year and a half like trajectory
of album cycle. And it makes it disconnects from the
core fan base at that point because like, what's going on,
You're just thrown out records. Yeah, but that's usually the
label saying we need to work this record, let's get
our ry on this and try to build some type
of buzz for the project. That's why you get songs

(54:40):
that are two years old that are on albums that
come out later, which and I.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Skipped, like I'm even on the summer album like Heart
of a Woman. I skipped that immediately.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Why I don't want it?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
We had tired of it. He' sired of it.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Okay, we've had it for months, you know what I'm saying.
It's like fair okay, fair good. We then with the
double disto I hear you. There's there's so much more
on the song, but it's like, I'm not going to
I've been listening to that for When did the Heart
of a.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Woman come out for a very long so damn near
a year ago?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, no, it was the top of this year.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We almost at the top of next year, that's know.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
That's what I'm saying. I just feel like I've been
listening to Heart of a Woman for months, That's know
what I'm saying. It came out Nah, No, what's October
October twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, god damn more than a very long time.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying. It's like I don't
want to hear that. Yeah, a good song, but it's like, yeah,
I'm at God girl now you know what I'm saying.
That's why, man, let me get to that, Like I'm
not really let me get the one hundred hard break
not really with woman no more.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
But as far as album cycles, I'm looking forward hopefully
twenty twenty six we had Sizza. I'm just looking at
my album list from like twenty twenty two of people
that didn't put anything out. I know Robert Glasper's put
out a bunch. I'd love Black Radio four to come
out in twenty twenty six. Amber Mark, I love. I
hope she puts something out. Ariy Lennox is already putting
records out now, so I assume she'll be dropping first

(56:02):
or second quarter. She's not on Dreams on twenty twenty six. No,
Alex Ozley has been active, but I would love for
her and Jack to get back and give us an
album in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Hey, please do, Alex, please please, You and Jack gotta
get do. Give us something, give us, give us a
little six pack of something.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah. And also we were talking with PJ Morton at
the BT Awards. He now owns Stevie Wonders Farm. Yes,
he has a host set up there. Yeah, and as
a bunch of young artists, I'm excited just to see
what he does with his kind of new I mean,
I want to say label per se that he's starting
over there, but you know he's doing joint projects with rappers, singers.

(56:45):
I'm excited to see what PJ does in twenty twenty six.
And I'm coming out in twenty twenty six. There you
go hey now, so you know, hope hopefully no one
comes up.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
So it could be just you. They put a new
team to Turn the Project the same day you dropped
Tina Turn the Projects.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I would like a little bit longer of an album
from Nao. I know she put out Jupiter at the
top of this year, but it's only thirty three minutes
eleven songs.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I will want something a little bit longer, yeah from her.
I fuck with that project though, Yeah, that project is great.
Ship Mac Airs. I always mispronounce his name, but Mac
is incredible. Shout out to to New York. But yeah,
I know, I know we're we're dragging the R and
B shit. I know a lot of our listeners are
not R and B heads like us listening.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
To Yeah than us for I don't trust nobody that
just listening to rap. No, some people just don't want
to hear thirty minutes of just R and B.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Like, actually, problem, got a balance, It's the problem your
nervous systems is like, oh, I mean, I agree. I
think you'll just R and get some R and B
in your in your in your uh, your diet.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
R R and B will make you appreciate how you
listen to hip hop, more might be oh, don't don't
do that? Was that wasn't that profound? That wasn't that profound?
That wasn't that profound? You didn't. It really wasn't. It
really wasn't. But but if you get into the DNA
of R and B, that is mostly what all the
hip hop samples that you love, like you, you do
listen to hip hop differently if you have a love

(58:09):
for R and B, because that's really what it is.
Post you know, ninety.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Five, I saw a clip of Jermaine Duprix and he
was talking about the greatest, the greatest group ever is
New Audition And he's absolutely right. Did he give criteria?
I'd never be mad at the take what every New
Edition being the greatest group? Every artist that went solo
the album went platinum. Yeah, And when you say that,

(58:35):
it's like you can't argue that as great as the
Jackson Now what Michael did solo? Obviously you know what
I'm saying. But but does that make them the greatest
group when y'all can all go solo and go platinum?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Well, belt, well, would you consider that so I mean
solo per se?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah, there's the three of them. Yeah, I mean it's
still they still broke off from the group, That's what
I'm saying. Yeah, Wait, Ralph platinum. Wait his solo album is.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Platinum them, but how long it took for it to
go plast.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
It don't matter. It's platinum.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Don't know it, don't.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Tweaker went platinum.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
By the way, if you think about it, Tweaker and
New Edition are the same.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
No, I'm just saying, like, like I hear you, but
like the Jackson five is the Jackson five.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
We talking about the arrow where it was album sales,
not streams, and of course the Jackson five kids everything.
I get that, but you still have to put boys
to men attach New Edition Like, I mean, I get it,
I do get it. Just saying JD makes a lot
of sense with that take. Yeah, I mean, that's one

(59:36):
that I probably wouldn't argue. You can argue it, but
I'm not mad at to take whatsoever. I mean, I
mean just now, but with some of your favorite groups
like that would rival. I mean, but even where jodses
DNA starts with them too, Like, yeah, it's tough. I'm

(59:59):
just saying, man, he makes a lot of sense. And
I and I and I always.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I mean, New Edition is one of my favorite groups
ever before Jade even says this. But when you say
the greatest group, you're telling R and B. It's like,
damn you would, or you would, you would, you would
go to the Jackson five. People say that's pop whatever whatever,
But the greatest group being New Addition, I'm not mad
at that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
If you go remember remember if there's a pause there,
pause it. Yeah, the Jackson five versus New Edition doesn't
even like like remotely compare.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, it's different. You got Michael, we know what little
Michael did you three here about thirty niggas. Michael Jackson
is about thirty niggas. But Randy rest in peace. You
know the brothers that pass Tito Jamaine like all, but
they didn't they solo albums.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Didn't, didn't didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Okay, So hear me out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It'd be a good versus were Young New Edition versus
Jackson five, to be honest, hear me out. And then
that far and then there's that part of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Every member of Destiny's Child has one platinum. I'm just saying,
if that's what we're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
The original like the original Destiny Child or Michelle Kelly
and Beyonce Michelle Kelly. I mean, okay, I get that.
I'm just saying, but all right, Michelle sol album went platinum. Yeah,
she did a gospel Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
And she's also on Broadway killing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Just saying, and not to take anything away from Destiny's Child.
If you go through l Bib Devot, Bobby Brown solo,
Ralph tresvent Uh, Johnny like it just it's not close.
It's kind of not even your Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Bobby Brown when he went solo, see y'all too young,
that shit hit you. Bobby Brown's solo career, That shit
hit like an Adam Baum. That nigga, Bobby Brown was everywhere,
every award show, every Billboard.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
The nigga was in Ghostbusters like this. Bobby Brown was
that nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
I'm not I'm not fighting you. I was just saying,
if we bring I just you know, do another no listen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Destiny's Child obviously is one of the greatest groups for sure.
I mean, yo, what new addition did though, bell bil
the one Ny when Belle build the Vote.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Did they thing? It's like and these niggas rap it
was just like they could do no wrong. I don't
want to throw what if in because that doesn't really matter.
Let's deal with what TLC had contracts been what it was,
and unfortunately everything that happened with Left Eye, like TLC
I think would have branched the way New Addition did
and would have went on to be crazy in that regard,

(01:02:35):
like their run was just cut short because of bullshit.
Plus unfortunately Left Our passing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
But we're not gonna knock New Addition because it's happened
with TLC. Personally.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
We love I know New Addition is older, but New
Addition is Wu tang like they're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Wu tang yo and were talking about from the early eighties.
They were children with hits early eighties. Like go back
and just do your do your history on New Addition
to music. I know that we got the show that
came out and everybody loved that, but like a lot
of people still don't know the music of New Addition
from the start, not just when they were young men.

(01:03:09):
I'm talking about when they were little kids. Go back
to that and just listen. It's incredible to create that
they had and there on tour next year, I would
love to see New Addition boys to men.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
So you're choose a new addition.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
I was gonna say, are you choosing a new addition
over Boys to Men as a group not their solo
careist as a group Boys the Men shadalog over new
edition catalog?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Y'all might have to take new addition.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
That's tough. I might have to take new addition because
of my I love Boys to Men.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I might have to take.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Because of my age. Boys to Men was a way
bigger part of my life. But going back to stuff,
and I don't know, man like, yeah, I think I
have to go new edition, new addition, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I'm telling you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
And it's funny. I know Boys to Men would say
new addition. Yeah, we don't get Boys to Men without knowing.
Of course you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
But I just like we didn't feel the same way
about you know, when the guys went solo and to
day thing. Even though Sean and Wan Yah, you know,
they had some some good solo songs and things like that.
But when you talk about what Bobby Brown was able
to do, what Johnny Gill was able to do with
Ralph Chessvan was able to like it was, it's just no,

(01:04:17):
it's no comparing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Bro okay, So if I if I do just a
quick little verses, real quick, y'all choose for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
New addition, can you Stand in the rain? Versus boys
the men?

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
End of the Road?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Can you stand the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Song?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I'm taking?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
But but but can you stand the rain? Is like,
come on, man, I'm taking. End of the Road is
a bigger song. Don't get it twisted like Boomerang soundtrack,
what that did for that soundtrack, iconic iconic movie, iconic soundtrack,
legendary record. But can you stand in the rain? Like
if you throw into the road on the party, we

(01:04:53):
had an R and B party throwing End of the Road.
Niggas are like, now this was that ship you throwing?
Can you stand the rain? Niggas is picking they phones
like I gotta call it dog, I'm tripping. That's just
it's just a different type of feel when you hear
can you stand?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
That's one of those If we were on drink Champs,
I would drink. I don't even know what to pick on.
That End of the Road is probably one of the
biggest songs in R and B history. But can you
Stay in the rain? Is that ship? Though? Put the
songs that everyone know every lyric.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Did we get to the and start doing that ship?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I don't know, yeah, ah man, I don't know can
you stand in the ring? But when Ralph come in
on can you Stand the Rain? Like I think that match.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Johnny came in and said on a perfect day. I
said this, nigga, Johnny. They wasn't jacking Johnny joined the group.
They wasn't fucking with him. They was kind of giving
them ship like, yo, you're trying to take Bobby spot that.
And the third when that nigga said I know that
I can't tell you. I said this niggas in Bobby
who like this nigga Johnny? That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Can you Stand the Rain? I love, I Love. I
sang end of the Road in fucking grade school like
at a talent show. Yeah, that's definitely a go to talent.
So I love you Standing the Rain. It's kind of
a challenge the rain.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Can you Stand the Rain is an old talent show
song Okay, round two, Round two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And they do the choreography to Kings in the Ring
You Love You Love? What's the movie the best do
that today?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Best Man Holiday is like such a traumatic movie, but
I watch it every Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
So that movie I want this way to being a
Christmas must watch, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Is already said a Christmas musch watch for me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
I don't know, I don't know. We're not putting it.
I mean, it's tough, but that's best Man. Best Man
too is best Man. Holliday is definitely on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Holiday might be better than the best Man. Don't shoot me,
don't shoot me, don't shoot me. Best Man Holliday might
be better than the best Man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
I ain't gonna I know why really mad at that.
I don't see why you say that. I get why
you say that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I'm not mad at that take.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I get why you say that. But it's definitely moving
in that realm of like when Christmas coming around. You
gotta watch the first die Hard movie for sure, got
to watch Home Alone. Best Man Holiday might be in there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, and the three you just named are so cryptic
in Trauma. It's so funny that their holiday movie like
this happened. Things like really good about these Christmas?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Second round, Second round, New edition. If it isn't love
boys to men, I'll make love to you, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Make love to you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I'll make love to you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
If it isn't love.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
That's the age difference.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
I think, yeah, yeah, if it is in love, do
I feel this way? It's just a different bot. It's
a weird she stay on my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
And then the choreography they need that, y'all don't even y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Y'all just wasn't outside, man, y'all wasn't outside.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
We did, we did watch Avon Barksdale teach them the choreography.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
But y'all wasn't there. Man, when John that video is Ralph?
Had you pull up the video? John Ralph had the
pitts that went into the shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
I don't think that's a fair.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
It was tough with the two groups because New Audition
has more up tempo and Boys of Men is more ballad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Get that you know they don't even tee and Jodicy
is more of a versus sonically to me than New
Edition and Boice.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Men well versus they would be performing correct.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Oh, then it's over. But the New Audition wins every round?
What about? No, that's not what.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I wanted those, my mom, the woking side with the
no socks, with the loafers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I wanted to go outside with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Those, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
All right, up tempo crowd pleasers. Round three, Let's do
new edition. Mister telephone man, yep, boys to men Motown Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Mister tell mister telephone man.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Yeah, I would have to go, mister Telephonia. But I
love Motown Philly. I love Motown Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Mister telephone said, hello, can I help you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Please? The telephone man ain't ofvering. Y'all don't even y'all
have land lines no more. Well, I think y'all don't
even know what it is to have a landline. And
y'all don't y'all don't know. Man, y'all don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
You weren't trying. That was actually very close to Ralph
impression right there. If you try that one more time
and try to sound like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Ralph, No, I can't sound like bro Ralph voice is
too high, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
And that's another thing. You kind of had it a
little bit. That's another thing. People don't look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
That was whole their whole thing was catered around trying
to sound like Jackson five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah, for sure, Ralph was close. He wasn't Little Michael.
I ain't gonna come on, We ain't gona getting crazy.
No one's saying that he wasn't Little Michael, but he
was close. He was close. Candy Rain like he was close.
He was very close.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I'm bend Ney, Damn Yo, you are you are Josh
would be the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Most random songs that that just make it just like
Josh Yah, you're out his music team whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I'm Benddney.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Boys to Man again. This is a differ from vibe
New Addition. Cool it now, it's a different vibe. Yeah,
that's not that's just that's just a weird two different vibes.
It's tough. New Edition Crucial versus Boys to Men. A
song for Mama, New Addition Crucial versus song for Mama. No,
you told me anything and everything me always keep it inside.

(01:10:22):
You are the driving fortune.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I'm about to call my mama and hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
And R and B took that flow and ran with
it too. All right, well marriage. You also have to
add in solo ship because that versus if you're in
a like you're playing a bunch of lock ship against
against fab like, yeah, let's get Bobby now, let's pull.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Some body ship. Let's get into Bobby. I said, as
a group alone. Obviously, if you start, if you allow
single songs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Like if you if you do Bobby against the Boys
to my record, doesn't have to be solo.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
That's not But again that's why I said to keep
it fair. I'm saying, just group, it's not fair.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
That's why we're saying New Addition is is it because
poison could beat a bunch of poison that records.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah, that's a fact. I'm just saying. Man, JD he
got that one right. When you first hear it, it's
like huh. But then when you start doing we're doing
getting into the music, like really, it's a lot of
groups that cannot fuck with New Addition. Okay. That's why
I'm excited that they're going on tour because I think
this is gonna help solidify. Like, Yo, this is the

(01:11:25):
coldest group ever in R and B ever. Like them,
niggas had hits. They went decades with hits, Like they
crossed from the eighties to the nineties to the early
two thousands, like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
With hit records. Yeah, though not even come on you
throwing Johnny Ruby the right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Way my mo, ma mo.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
When that came out, when he went solo with that,
it was like, nah, these niggas is cheating. I mean
when everybody got a bomb. The real verses I wanted
to do, which I know sounds laughable. But Young Jackson
five verse, Young new Edition, I think new addition is hanging.
Sounds kind of blasphemous. They hanging just even I don't
know if they I don't know if they're gonna win,

(01:12:07):
but I know good versus. I would pay to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
They would, they would hang.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Yeah, But once they start getting into them, them them
them deep Jackson five cuts, it's like, yeah, man, just
go ahead and leave little Michael alone. Y'all can't that
little Michael was. Don't leave him alone when he had
when he got the fro and he put that cowboy
hat on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I'll never forget the first time boy had over a fro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Crazy as fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
I never forget the first time I saw that on TV.
Like I remember as a as a little kid, seeing
Michael Jackson as a little kid, Like I understand how
kids now that are born or like ename it with Michael.
It's like it's something about him when you see him
on TV as a kid, but you just can't stop
looking at him. Yeah, because kids that are born now, Michael,
Michael Jackson, there were ten years probably no longer longer

(01:12:54):
than that he died ship like sixteen years sixteen oh nine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I don't know why thought I was five you right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah? Uh okay, yeah, they'll hang. But I do take
back a lot of much about coming out. I mean,
I want you back as my ship ABC goes out
saying I'll be there, like, I don't even know many
songs that could beat that. Yeah, never can say goodbye

(01:13:23):
You're loving you? John, I want to I want to
put where you at your Who's Loving You?

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
That ain't you want to be where you? Yeah? Nah,
I'm all right. Listen, new edition is allowed, young, new
addition is allowed on the stage with him, I'll say
for sure. But when Mike game was that with the
hat Who's Loving You and the Edge seller Bro Listen, man,
y'all don't even.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Understand what this kid in the Black household that look
at little Michael look at him?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Mm hmm? What the fuck you just say?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
That's how Bruno Mars feel.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Like it's look mall is a name or now Ma's like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Performance they performances. I will never forget this, Like this
was crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
He was perfect. He was absolutely perfect. That's a different
that's spiritual talent. That's a different type of you. Gotta
be born. You were born, God wanted you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
This was a chosen thing. Yeah, despite all the work
Mike put in, no this some ship just lines up
that you were just the chosen one for everything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, it's different over there, real different.

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Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
You've got mail.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
Got a question for the pie. So what was your
childhood stereotype? Because everybody knew those kids that fit something,
whether it was the snot nos kid you know five
years old, let's not just running down his nose, like,
come on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Now, wipe your nose, bro. Then you got the rage crier, the.

Speaker 7 (01:17:00):
One that puff and puff as soon as them tears
start bron they scream and yell and they ready to
fight somebody. Then you got the little girl, you know,
just struggling with them little eight bowl reds in the head.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
You know that type of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
Me, I was the cousin that nobody wanted to sleep
next to because I pissed into bed. I appreciate the
point where in my family be like little by going
there and use the bathroom. And if you piss on
yourself tonight, I'm being your ass. But anyway, my question
is for y'all, what was y'all stereotype?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I mean I stopped peeing the bed pretty young, pretty early,
So that wasn't that. I was never a snotty nosed
kid running around with boogers. It's never that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Maybe I was just was always just I was real talkative.
I was always running my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
It was loud. Maybe I thought you might have been
like the you know, the chill baby, like it's leg
up against the wall, like I feel like your whole life.
He was just like, oh no, it's just chilling as
a baby like this and that, not as.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
A baby like that was like around like eight nine
teen years old.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Ma gave me like the flirty baby, you know, the
little babies that's always in women's faces, like baby.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Since I got in trouble because I remember, I don't
know who it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
One of my mother's friends came out and she had
like this long sun dress on, and like I just
kept looking at it, and I went under her dress,
like I picked her dress up and like went under
her dress and was like just standing there just like
looking at her.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
But I'll never forget that. And my mother's like, I
don't know what it was like what caused me to
It wasn't like a perverted thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
It was just I was looking at the dress when
she was walking in the house, and I remember I
just went like this, Little boys do that a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
They do that so much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Word, I wasn't the first. My my uncle's made me
do that at I don't have a memory of it.
They just tell the story my uncles convinced me to
do that at a family member's wedding, to go on
somebody's dress fries.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Oh, your uncles are terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
People are horrible. I told you guys about the group chat. Yeah,
I don't think. Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
I was just like the I might have been that,
if anything, I was that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
It was so funny that he said that because the
moment he started talking like the moment he mentioned that,
I started laughing because me and my dad were having
a long conversation yesterday when we were hanging out, and
we literally were talking about the fact that I was
the bier, I was the kidnapping. I bit a hole
through my cousin. Shout out to my cousin Desa. I
bit a hole through my cousin Dasa's lip when she
was a kid. She still has the scar as an adult,
and every time she see me, she bring up that

(01:19:33):
damn Scar, I was a bier, and you know it's
so crazy. As an adult, when I get angry, my
first instinct I want to bite people. Granted, because I'm
an adult, I have to like control that urge, but
when I'm really really upset or hungry, I want to
bite somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
At your age, now, when was the last time that
you had that urge to bite somebody in anger?

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
I do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I wanted to bite you last week. I literally like,
when I get upset, I want to bite people. I
bit I bit my boyfriend, I broke skin, like I'm
a bier white people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
That is crazy, you know, that's like a problem, that's
really angry. They were supposed to take.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
You to the special class when you were a kid,
like and like you got lipon space camp. Yeah, like
biting you was a bite too. I told the story
how I got a kicked out of takecare. I pushed
the kid down the steps and middlem and my mother
picked me up, drove me past where my dad worked,
just to like threatening scare me, Like when he get home,
what did that? What did what did you you think
you learned that from though, because that's like a that

(01:20:27):
has to be a learned thing like kids don't just
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
I never There was never anybody else around that bit.
My parents didn't bite me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
The kids say, because I mean, you used to identify
the kids that would bite us. They had like the
silver caps on their teeth, like the white they guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
To give vin ears. It's just from the years of biting. Yeah, yeah,
like a bitter Yeah I was. I was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
I was the bier kid like I bit other kids.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
I have cousins. My cousins were like. I had one
cousin who was a scratcher like she and her nails
from a young kid. She used her nails used to
be so long, and my mother used to used to like,
don't fight with her because she was scratched. Like I
would come of scratches on my face. When we would
play fight or real fight, she would scratch me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
That was my sister's go to when we used to fight.
She used to scratch the ship out of me. Old.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
I still got scars on my off for my sisters.
Let me and my sister fight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
When we was kid, My older cousin, Mike, used to
bite the top of my head right here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
He is psychopath.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I don't think there's a a worst pain on her
to all the youth, because we have a lot of
youth to listen to us. If you want to get
back at one of your family members with the most
excruciating pain of all time, just lock like right here,
just put top of your your jaw right here, bottom
right here. It's the worst pain on all time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Oh he bitch your soft spot. Yeah, that's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
It hurts so much. And even like as adults, sometimes
he would do it just to fuck with me, like, hey,
remember this and remember this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
It's an adult. I'm calling the police. No, first of all,
don't around.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Don't and the police would like to talk to you downstairs,
like go outside, fucking bite me as it would hurt
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Were you one of them kids I used to flip
their eyelids inside.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I never did that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Of course it was Peach. She's like that was me.
My best friend did that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
I never like like that shit, just like it hurt
because they say or when like I used to go
cross side my parents, was like your I was gonna
get stuck like that and it neared me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
The kids that were able to do that with their
eyelids now can open a beer with their teeth. It's
the same person. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
One thing I used to hate and like my cousin
used to do it to me every time I saw
crack your knuckles.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I never understood how kids used to be sitting in
the class. I did that my whole life. I still do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
I never understood that the sound, the sound drives me crazy.
The feeling drives me crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
When I just went to get a massage recently, the
lady when she was massage on my feet, she pulled
and cracked my toes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I kicked her at, don't ever what.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
A great feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Don't ever do that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Toes is tough to crack, but I cracked my I
cracked my toes, like when I'm in the crib relaxing,
but cracking your hands.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Though, thinking of them all sitting in his crib, because
you could just do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Shit yourself, like you know what I'm saying, Like, but
like doing this in class?

Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
You do?

Speaker 7 (01:23:00):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Hate this sound?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
It's bad for you too, Like it does lead to
arthritis and ship like you shouldn't do it, and I
do that ship all the time. Yeah it's not And
I've read your knuckles does lead to that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
But I've read that it's not even your knuckles that's cracked,
and it's just like air in between you're like points
and ship. That's just like, yeah, I was never a
fan of that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I could find any I know how to do every
every last one?

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Wait, Amara got like a is Amara? Does she fit
into a stereotype?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Amara pushes and she started to bite. She doesn't bite me.
I'm exept for some reason of all of her like
bad traits, she doesn't do it. She says push when
she pushes, which I think is like cute, but I
tell her people's like you're trying to disciplining your kid
and laughing to say, like, don't do that. She's letting you, Amara,

(01:23:52):
don't do that. She's letting you know what next move.
She's like, you know I'm about to push you, so
like prepare yourself. Should exchange baby shark for forty eight
laws power, Like stop you telling everyone your next move?
A lot of people like that. She's been biting though,
but like not in an aggressive way, but like in
a funny way, a little nibble, yeah, like whether her
mom shall bite, but not not an aggressive way at all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Well, you must not taste good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
She's never tried to bite me what her.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Mom risk probably tastes good, like, probably don't want to
buy I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Got the salty one. Yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
But forty eight Laws of Power. You were asking why
people like that book so much?

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
I never understand how people like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Have you ever read it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I read it before too.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
It's just manipulation, Like why do people want to learn
how to manipulate?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Well, manipulation gets you very far in life, coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
And being solid get your fall in life too.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Being solid, dude, don't get you far in the manipulation.
Being solid gets you blessings. Manipulation, but that's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
What I want. I don't want what come up, manipulation?
Show me all the blessed?

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
I was?

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Was it? During the press run in my mom? I
did a podcast where we talked about forty Laws of
Power and I said the exact same thing that you
just said that When I was reading it, I was
kind of like turned off by it, like this is
like this is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
You're like when I say this is like I remember
going to a girl's house when she had it like
on coffee table, and that just was like I was like,
I was like, you like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
She didn't know why I was asking, but I knew
why I was asking.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
She was like, I love that book. I was just like,
you'll never.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
See me again.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Well, see, I don't think that that's fair though, because
I think that, Well, now I feel bad because when
I was reading forty eight Laws of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Power, I was like, oh, I already know all that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
But with forty eight Laws of Power, it depends on
where you apply it, because there's some places that you
shouldn't apply manipulation. Granted, we manipulate in every area of
our lives. No one is above manipulation, whether you're trying
to do it intentionally or not. But I think it
was originally well maybe it's not originally, but I know
a lot of people use it for business, for negotiation purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
For sure, and that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
You have to be like that for sure. But a
lot of that book is really based on your relationships
with people. Yeah, it can be, it can be put
into business.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
For I read that, sh I was like, now I
see why. I was never as like I got the
way When it was like forty of Power, I was
just like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Works I read. I was like, read, Unfortunately it does work.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
It studies the way that people are and how they
react to certain things, and you can make people do
what you want them to do and react the way
you want them to react in certain situations if you
pay attention to if you master the power of manipulation.
The artist Seduction I read is very very well, very
good as well. I read that as a younger woman.
I'm reading again as a older woman.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
But I haven't read that, But I do understand books
like forty Laws of Power and uh, everything that Machiavelli
wrote is popular in prisons because you're in an environment
where manipulation may be survival wore. Yeah, Like I get
that in certain environments people are in. But yeah, if
you're reading that just to manipulate the people around you,

(01:26:51):
that's a that's a deeper, darker thing that you need
to like probably deal with. But yeah, I forgot what
podcast it was, but I had the same thought. I
was like, why did everyone love this? This is never
really that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
I never understood how people loved that book. That's just like,
look at people a little diferent, like forty Loads of Power.
I'll be like, no, not to ever watch that, nigga, watch.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
It really, you know, it's actually, you know, it's a
really good book, fifty Laws of Power by fifty cent
and it's not really about manipulation. It's just how to
move in business and the examples that he used throughout
his career. Fifty Laws of Power is a really really
good book that I would suggest people. I mean the
audiobook is great too. It's fifty just talking to you,
so it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Oh now that okay, that's different. I could definitely shit
and listen to fifty just read.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
No, but it's super important. It's not like it's a
very serious book. It's really a good business type man.
But it's fifty talking like how he's talking and raising Kanaan.
Sometimes it slips in. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
There's not many books that I will say change my life,
like self help books, but the Art of Science, Art
and Science of Respect by Jay Prince changed my life.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
I remember shout out to jazz Fly, yeah, rest and
pieces of jazz Fly.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Just to summarize real quick a chapter he had where
he was like, you know, to reach my goals, I
wrote them down, and everything I did from then on
or everything I did in my day to day I
had to ask myself the question of is does this
contribute to my goal?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
If not, I needed I did. I needed to not
be doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
And that was from the moment I opened my eyes
to the moment I closed them, every single move I made.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Does this contribute to my goals? If not, then I
don't need to be doing this. It's a waste of
my time.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Which can be a little intense, right, But some people
work well with intents, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I really liked that book.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
It was really good. No matter how you feel about
Jay Prince, I do think it's one worth three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
He's sitting right next to us.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
He's so disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
What did I do? Not all black people look like? Worry? Oh,
I know, I agree with you, but you and j
Prince look like don't like what I like? I do.
I hear what you're saying, but nah. I'm actually currently
reading the book Rework, which focuses on the way in

(01:29:12):
which you're productive, where overworking sometimes can lead to less production.
It's called Rework. It's it's it's really interesting. I just
started it, so I can't give a full review, but
I've enjoyed it so far. But it does. It focuses
on how you structure your work schedule, and that overworking
is is probably a bad idea when it comes to

(01:29:35):
being productive more or less.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Okay, Mal, are you currently reading anything? You should we
should start a book club.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
I'm currently reading, Like I told you guys earlier, I'm
currently reading All about Love by belt Hooks, which is
a study of love, but in an intellectual way, not
an emotional way. And she talks a lot about how
a lot of us idea a lot of our ideas
of love come from what our parents showed us. But
a lot of what our parents showed us is again
care and affection but not love is a verb because

(01:30:06):
love and abuse can can't coexist, love and negligence can't coexist.
So it's just a way to read look at love
because a lot of us want we all wanted, but
it's not studied the way other things that we all
want is studied.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
So I would be down to do a podcast like
book club with the listeners. Not so much that I
would say we have to like do the book club
powows where we all going to circle and say what
it meant to us, but just to keep everybody honest
of chapters that we need to read by this this time.
I wouldn't be mad at that, because that's why I
like the fitness shit of like with groups of people.

(01:30:43):
Fuck the camaraderie. Just keep me honest, like I'm yeah,
so I would be down to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Yeah, I just feel like saying that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Did you see?

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Do you know where we're at from? I fell down
a rabbit. It's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
When I was just dying left, I was Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
I thought you're about to say a different word. It's
so confused.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
No, it's a This girl did a few a fool
review and I want to give her I want to
give her name because she's a creator and she's funny
at ship. She's also a really good singer. She did
a food review and she was eating something.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
And she ate it and she was like, but.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
This is this ship is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Let me see if I can find it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
She would do it on Patreon. I'm down to do
this on Patreon.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Hubbard shout out to Ariana.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Patreon, doctor Forward, slash new or mall. We will be
breaking down the term right away. Appreciate you guys. We'll
be back soon. We have oh no, if you're listening
to you just heard day Lot so no, no, okay,
we have day Lot Soul this week, which I'm super
excited about. My favorite interviews ever. So if your legendary

(01:31:52):
days you're still listening at this point in the podcast,
we thank you when we have day Lot Soul this week.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
All right, we'll talk to you are soon on the
Patreon we Go. I'm that Nigga's just ginger peace, no warrant,
no
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