April 17, 2025 • 47 mins
On this episode of "Rory and Mal Don't Know Ball", the guys are joined by former NBA All-Star and Memphis Grizzlies legend, Zach Randolph. Rory and Mal ask Zach about starting his own record label, signing Moneybagg Yo, his time with the "Grit and Grind" Memphis Grizzlies, what went wrong in New York when he was on the Knicks, and having his name shouted out on hip-hop tracks. #volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, roll, we're back for another episode of Don't
Know Ball. Today we are joined by somebody who absolutely
knows ball. One of my favorite players, seventeen year NBA veteran,
a guy that you know dominated his position. Uh, it
was fun to watch, very smooth. You know, it was
lefty down there on the block. So you know you
(00:30):
can't do nothing with that down there on the block
when they left.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good, good dude, man, A guy that I spent some
time around while he was playing, had some some some
good nights, good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Nights out in the city.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We are joined by z bo Zach Randolph himself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Before we get into anything, I want to ask you,
do you have any mall stories? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's my brother.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man' what's thes club?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I see man do a lot of sh practice. One
of the best ever mall handlers that ever played the game. Okay, many, yeah, see.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well how you've been man, I'm you first of all,
congratulations on retirement, wrapping up a great a great career
as a guy that you know, you know watching you play,
you know you and one of my other favorite players
to watch growing up, Derek Coleman remind me a lot
of se Derek Coleman, how was how was adjusting to retirement?
(01:39):
How has that been for you?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Man? It be good? You know for me because I
had things set up. You know, I got an entertainment
company called Endless Entertainment. Uh started back in Memphis. Uh
huh Me and my partner, partner, one of my best
friend Marcus how And you know, I had a chance,
you know, being blessed to sign money bag, you know,
one of the best rappers in the game, best artists,
(02:00):
best lyricists, and that its blessing, you know what I mean.
And got more talent in the city and other states
and just been working. Man, it's just been grinding. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You you you've I mean, you know, obviously what you
did in Portland and hearing New York in your career
was great. But what you did down in Memphis, you know,
they it has to be at least twelve statues of
Zbo around the city, around the city of Memphis at
some point.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
How is how is uh?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
How has it been adjusting to uh, you know, getting
into business and and like you said, signing money back.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
You know, how was that experiencement for you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Man? It's been good? You know, I started I started
at the record label while when I was playing in Memphis,
so I was still you know, working and grinding with
the team. So it was good. It was a smooth transition.
You know a lot of guys uh that starts uh labels,
it's always the opposite, you know, it always it's not
a good turnout. You know. I know guys that when
(02:54):
I came into the league, guys started labels. They was like, man,
I lost four million. I'm eighteen nineteen, you know, O
G is talking about how they lost four of them. Like, shit,
I ain't even have a million, yea. You know, I
always was, you know, just always was annoyed and scared about,
you know, getting to music. But music but Memphis. I
had so much talent, man, and so much you know,
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culture and uh so many talent artists. Man, it was
the best thing to do. So you know, it was
a blessing. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
How did you first originally get in contact with money Bag?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Ye Uh the city that's been in Memphis, you know,
Uh me being in the city, I give it back
to the city, you know what I'm saying. I give
back and uh around the city, around the community, you
know what I mean. And he wanted to work with
work with me, you know what I mean. He was
up and coming and you know he's seen the Lord.
He there, he's seen the honor and he wanted to
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get on the train. I seen it in him too,
you know, the talent and you know, special artist he was,
and so it was just perfect fit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What was it like navigating starting that label and having
an artist like money Bag Year It was?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It was good. It was good, man, just been you know,
just getting out there learning things and seeing how that
music industry worked with bad coming up and all kinds
of different things. So, man, I could it was the
best experience ever, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
So it was the best experience ever. And I can't complain. Man,
it ben been a blessing, you know what I mean,
(04:21):
just not only that, just to work with other artists
in the business space. You know, we got artist named
d Mulai, Big Homie g Big thirty Mother, Brother Bowl,
you know, Nick Hardbody. We got so many artists with
so much talent and our artist Lonely Girl. So it's
like it's a blessed man just getting in there and
getting the studio to you know, listening to different beats
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and seeing hearing different artists and you know, tell their
side of the story.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now, zee, But we're from the same we We was
born the same year we came up, you know, the
same ear listening to music. How was the music adjusting
to the music now for you as opposed to when
we was coming up listening to hip hop?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
How was it? How was it?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Is your is still like damn saying what I'm used
to it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I gotta kind of get used to this new sound,
this new way, because now I'm invested financially and as
a businessman with these artists.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, it's definitely different now. I think. Now it's more.
You know, you got different you got different germs, you
got the hip hop, but you also got the different
kind of hip hops, right, you know. I like where
it's at. You know, I'm a fan of music, and
not only that, I love all music. I listen to
a lot of R and B, a lot of old
R and B, a lot of you know, hip hops.
(05:29):
You know, I like Latin music. I like I like
all types of germs and music. So, you know, just
learn about different germs. I think what else would be
So just stuck with the hip hop but no, it's
other germs out there. That's that's good music. So for me,
I love music man all the way around.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
What type of artists were you listening to as a
kid man?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know? For me, I'm from the Mere West, from Mary, Indiana,
So I grew up listening you know, uh m C eight,
you know, h MC breed, you know, top authority, Uh
bust the rhyme, so spice one. Uh you know brother Lynch,
hug Ce Bow, Yeah, you know so uh three six Mafia,
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you know. So I because where I'm from, we we
listened everything for a mini so you know I grew
up missing everything.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Well you got how far you got from Chicago?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Uh, Chicago about two hours?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Two hours?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So you attached more to the Chicago scene too, sometimes
like Twister, Twister.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do or Die? Like I grew up, That's that was
my era, you know what I mean. I grew up
listening to that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Now, you was drafted to Portland. Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
At the time where you got there, they dubbed out
of jail Blazers because because of your style of play.
Talk to that transition coming in from from college, coming
in from Michigan State Holly Towdy, one of the best
players in college coming out. Uh, when you got to Portland,
who was the who was your vet? Who was the
guy that put his arms around you and kind of
(07:02):
like helped you, helps you get your legs under you
in the league?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Man, you know what it was? It was all it
was all the ogz from Buzzy Wells to Damon Stodomayer
to Rashidi Wallace. All them guys took me under their
wings some way or somehow, And I learned something every
one of them guys, you know, as a as a
young man coming into the NBA, trying to find my
way and looking up in them guys, looking up to
(07:27):
the receives and watching how they scotty people, how they
conduct being a professional, you know, showing up, being a
first practice, you know, in the weight room, doing things
like this. So I learned a bit from I learned
something from all them guys. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Now a name you mentioned that's another you know, revolutionized
the powerful position, Rashi Wallace. What was those battles like
for young z bo coming in and having to be
in practice and having a guard sheet and got and
go at st Wallace?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That was tough. Man, like you said, coming in, you know,
eighteen year old, nineteen year old rookie looking up to
them guys, you know what I mean. She she was
one of my favorite players coming you know, growing up,
you know what I mean. And so just getting to
compete against him, you know, uh the bigs are Vitas
the Bonus, one of the best passing bigs that ever
played the game. And uh so just competing against them
(08:20):
guys every day, you know, coming in. I didn't play
my first couple of years in the league, but I
got so much better. They practice, going at the boys
talking ship going in, she she talking, you know, shitting
me and all the other guys. That making me compete harder,
you know, our practices. It was, man, it was it was.
(08:40):
It was on like guys literally get to fighting and
cussing each other out. Like it was that type of
like now we're gonna bust our ass, like the second team,
like we had a whip, you know what I'm saying.
We wasn't just going you know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, one of the one of the names you threw
out there, Vitas the Bonus. You know how I'm a
little you know, we we obviously the same age, but
I hear a lot of you know, praise and talk
about Jokic, and rightfully so, I think what he's doing
is amazing and he's one of the one of my
favorite players to watch. But I'm old enough to remember
what Sabonis look like and and and you know, a
(09:13):
lot of people, a lot of people don't know, but
Sabonis before the injuries and how he dominated over in
the EuroLeague and things that he was doing. How was it,
you know, for somebody like you who actually saw that
up closing personal And then you get to look at
guys like Joker today in the league and you don't
but you don't hear guys, you know, they say, oh,
we've never seen nothing like this. But somebody like Zach Randolph,
(09:34):
who was in practice with our Vida Sibonis, how is
that for you like to sit down and sit back
and hear God say that we've never seen nothing like this,
and you've actually played with some of the most legendary
big men of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And yeah, like I said, just noticed people, you know.
And it's depending on who who's saying it too, because
like you said, our Vida's he was he was a
one of a kind, like Jokic. Jokic, he's a special
player on the best the play the game. But got
a lot of Markus. So Mark Saul had the same thing.
They remind me each other a lot, you know what
(10:06):
I mean when they lead the team with the past,
like Mark was our i Q on the team defensively
and offensively. He get everybody going. He got me going
on both ends, you know what I mean, and got
me a test. So just seeing how they play, they
reminded me so much of each other. And like you said,
he got a lot of r Vedas in Yokic. Does
you know he's a special player, But like you said,
(10:27):
there's players that just before him that you can they
put in that same realm of things with with with yolks,
like hey, you got a lot of this, You got
a lot of r Vedas, you got a lot of
mark in You guys did play this game.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you ever sit back and watch the game today
when you see guys like Yogic and you kind of
sit there in front of the TV and rub your
hands together, like, damn, I wish I had I wish
I had a shot at him because I know exactly
how I had to guard him. He got to come
back and guard you Now, Like, how is it watching
the game now with these guys like Yokics and you
sitting back knowing what you did and you're style of play, Like,
do you ever sit and wish you had that opportunity
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to match up?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You know what, Man, I got to play against's younger years.
You know, you know when I played against he always
had talent, Like you said, he always had them in tengibles.
Always can score the ball and pass the ball and
he can shoot it. And can you knew he was
gonna be a good player. And you look at his
progression of playing and you see that he's getting better.
So yeah, man, I see I sit back and watch
(11:24):
these young fellas play there. It's a lot of talent.
But damn right, I wish I could get out there
and go at them boys and throw some elbows and
you know, give him a little that old school you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, them boys is tough. Though.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you ever do you ever watch the game now
today and ever feel like you know, most of the
fans today we kind of feel like the game has
changed so much because, like when you were in Portland,
the style of play in the league then, even not
even Portland Memphis.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The style of play is so.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Different, and not just team by team, It's like around
the league unanimously, everybody is playing the same it's just
shoot threes, shoot threes. I read something that the commissioner
is thinking about introducing the full point shot at some
point in the next couple of years. Do you just
feel like the game is kind of getting away from
(12:16):
one the physicality and to just the essence of like
real basketball, because you know, you see guys get up
and down and everybody stop at the three point line
and just shoot threes. It's like, Okay, I get it,
but that kind of takes away some of the fabric
of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Though. Yeah, I definitely understand what you're saying. You know,
the game has changed, you know what I mean, Like
it's a lot of more shooting, a lot of more
three point But at the same time, I get the
game credit because the fundamentals, it's definitely not where it was.
It's more these guys are six seven feet shoot threes,
picking and popping. Like the game has changed. But at
the same point, you know, I feel like, for me,
(12:53):
like basketball it's not like it used to be. But
you're gonna get that. It's like a revolving clock. Always
say it all the time. I think it's going which
to come back around. You're going to have a draft
for maybe five years from now, six years from now,
you're gonna have six seven footers, you know what I mean.
You're gonna have two sacks coming in where guys like
Zach Edy, you know what I mean, in a post
and playing. So I think the game has changed and
(13:15):
the guys, a lot of a lot of guys want
to play a lot of teams personally don't want to
play like Golden State. They don't want who set who
set this tree and started playing this way with the
three point shooting. I think for that, you got to
have a personnel. Now, if you got a team, you
got some guys on the on the team that you
got shooters and you got knocked down threes, and you
(13:37):
could play that way. That's understandable. But I feel like
the teams need to play to their strength of what
their personnel is on her on her team, you know
what I mean. And some strength might be post player,
pick and pop, shoot threes, but teams need to play
to their strength of their personnel.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Now a couple uh, a couple of seasons ago. Uh,
the new the new face down there in Memphis. Jam
ran into some troubles away from the court. Did you ever,
did you get the opportunity to kind of like tap
in with him and reach and reach out to him
and kind of put your m around him and got
him a little bit?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh for sure. You know that's a little bro. He
family man. Him, his dad's to his sister's mother. You know,
that's family. You know, myth is a small community and
it's all love. And you know, I've been through a
lot of shit. You know, I don't not I don't
tap my head a few times. That's all right though.
You know how you bounce back is that's how you
come so and that's how you be your bount Your
(14:26):
bounce back is real. So, like I tell a little
bro just you know, adversity man a small thing to
a john. You get knocked down and get back up.
And that's what he's doing, you know. I mean, like
he's saying like he's one of the best players in
the NBA. Really to face the NBA. All these kids
want to be like yoah, you know, at the end
of the day, you know. So I just feel like
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it's just amount of setback for a major comeback. And
that's what he's doing. He's on the major comeback, you know,
just keeping his nose clean, and that's all it is.
Keeping those clean and stay out of things and everything
else will take care of self.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Stay off Instagram. Stay off Instagram.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I got stuff that I did.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Register your guns and stay off Instagram.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I was reading the stat that Portland has the most
strip clubs per square mile in the entire country every quarter. Bro,
I've never been to a strip club. I've never been
in Portland period, So I've never been to a strip
club in Portland.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
What's the culture like?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, tell people about because I got a chance to
go to Portland a couple of times and I was surprised.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But you actually lived there for some years. Tell people
exactly how like Portland is an underrated city man.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And Portland is a great city man. The fans is great.
Only thing about Portland. Just go there in the summertime
during the season. It rains every day, bro, I mean
every day, like that ship can be depressed it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But size your reign the city, great man of fans,
some of the best fans that I ever played, play
for every night there. They're loyal, they love they Trailblazers man,
and uh, Porler is a great city. Ain't got nothing
bad to say about this city, you know. I mean
just it rained a lot in the season, but an
all season is so beautiful as green noumidity. I got
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businesses still down there, so I'm always in Portland. A
lot of friends around there, and so I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Always in the city, Memphis Strip clubs or Portland strip clubs.
I'm staying on the strip clubs.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Gotta go Memphis. That's Z boy. Memphis.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Memphis cool. But Memphi's small too and small. But uh,
I say, uh, Portland got a lot of more exotics.
So I like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Exotics. I like they got more enxiety, they got more flavor. Yeah,
every every four feet, I mean you got yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But who was the who was the hardest player?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Now again, I watched a lot of your games, and
I can't remember, but I'm gonna guess you're gonna say,
Tim Duncan to this, to this, to this question, But
who was the hardest player you had to guard?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Man? For me, it's a lot of Tim Duncan, definitely,
Tim Duncan, Kg them two guys for me was the
hardest and Dirt New Whiskey, you know what I mean,
coming up my ear. Uh you know the wild, wild
West man. You know I played in the West and
then it was all forwards Chris Weber one night Uh, Dirt,
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Tim Kg, Carlos Boozer, Andre Carolinko, Elton brand lamar Oldham
like every team in the West, their players, their star.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Players, the powerful Marcus Aldridge l.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A, you know what I mean. So it's like where
never was no night off? You know in Portland.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Who's the hardest to garden at all those names?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I probably say kg, KG and Dunk in my time
to you know, ticket just being long and being you know, wiry,
grabbing you hands, this big grabbing you. The reps let
me do it, and the reps looking at me do it.
So he like, you know, he got away with murders.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So I say, I remember one one, one incident you
had on the court a few years ago. It was
personally personally, I liked it because again I got a
chance to spend some some personal time range.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So I know your personality, but but I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Also know it was out of love. You and DeMarcus
Cousins got into the little Big bro and yeah, yeah, no,
And and I know you love him, I know you
got loved for him. But you told him, you said,
where I'm from, we bully the bully. What did you
mean by I know what you meant by that? But
a lot of people didn't understand what Zach Randolph meant
by that.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Man? You know what? May you know me and DeMarcus
we always talked ship when we used to play against
each other. Yeah, this time he was fucking with his
teammate Buddy Ill. You know him and Buddy play together. Yeah,
so I hear him just talking to Buddy. I look up,
I say, yeah, I'm working the bullies get bullied, you
know what I mean? Yeah, we laughed and Ship laughed
about it. But no, it's all good. Though he was
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one of them, was one of the guys get bullied though.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, that's a fact. That's a fact he was. DeMarcus
Cousins was one of the guys too. You know when
they when they talk about the Big Man and you
know the Yolks and the z bos. Before his injuries,
you know, DeMarcus Cousins was one of the most electrifying
big men to watch. I mean, he he was a
revolutionized the position too, for his his window that he
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had held run the floor, he could pass, he could shoot,
he could dribble, he could post up. How how was
it watching his development against him being your little bro?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
How was that for you? Man? Watching him? Watching Boogie
was was great because like I said, he's like what
you just said, He's one of the guys that revolution
revolute power center. He can shoot the ball. He was big.
Every time I played against Booge, I had to get
my rest that night because I knew it was gonna
be a dog fight and so definitely so but like
you said, look brought the way he plays a game.
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Like you said, I think he definitely should have played
longer than he did. Uh. But you know, it's a
lot of politics in the game too. But he's definitely
one of the best ever to play in the game. Still,
even though with his career, had for me because I
know Boogie he can shoot the ball, he can handle it,
and he's seven feet and he likes contact.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
He gives you that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He hits you first. He liked me. He's a hit
type first guy. Yeah, so and but definitely and and
I feel like, you know, I feel like guys like
me and Boogie we don't get our duke. You know,
we kind of rough around the edges and you know,
we kind of you know, don't get get the respect
or get to do what we need to do. But
Boogies want the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You you played on the at Michigan State un the
legendary coach Tom Izzo. Uh, what do you feel about one?
N I L And to the transfer portal? How do
you how do you feel about those two things?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Man? N I L. I feel like that's a great thing.
A lot of these kids ain't gonna ever have a
chance to make that much money in their career or
in their college life or even after their their career
planning sports. So I feel like that's a great thing
for him. But I think we need to put a
cap on it somewhere. We need to start making it
(20:59):
like a like contracts kind of how like the NBA
is like, you know, you need to put it stipulations,
you know what I mean. I think that's where it's going.
I think eventually it's gonna have rules and stipulations, you know,
like a cap or something with this nil because you
know every year, you know, the team's no more cinder
of the teams. There's no more teams building up from
you know, to be able to have a good teams.
(21:20):
It's like the money. You know, how much money you got,
that's how I go. So if you got some money,
that university got some money, you gonna have a good team.
And I think, you know, it's kind of hurting the game.
It's definitely hurting younger players because it's it's definitely a
lot of high school players don't get scholarships no more.
There's a lot of a lot of a lot of players,
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young younger players just missing out because of the older
guys in the transportal. And you know, you can be
a certain age now. So I think it needed to
get looked at it again and put some put some
stipulations on it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Do you think that'll keep the players in college longer
rather than one and done and going right to the league.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well, I feel like the players just want and done,
Like I was the one and done player. Them players
stand alone because Cooper flags the Queens, the Ace, Bailey's
and the Harper's dealing them guys stand alone. So nephew
Jason Richardson. So some guys I think them the top
(22:20):
players they stand alone. But like for everybody else, you
know what I mean, Yeah, that's not a first round
pick or you know they they own a teeter of
could be in the NBA or going overseas.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now, when you was out here, z Bow with the Knicks,
y'all had a great looking at that roster. Man, I
just don't I don't. I don't understand how y'all didn't
have more success. Y'all had some dogs on that roster.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
It was hopeful. When what what do you think went wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Now with with the talent y'all had that made that
may have been one of the most talented Nicks rosters.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Man, you know what it was, bro if the first
year I got there, I got think I got there
for the beginning of this season. I got traded the
next season during the deadline. That the next season when
we was off and running, I think we have it
was nine and two or eight, I mean we was above.
It was like four or five games the boy five hundred,
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so we were starting to take off and then you
know the big Lebron dilemma. You know, I mean, they
thought Lebron was gonna come to New York and they
had a chance, and they got rid of all of us,
They got rid of me, mall. They trade, all trade
all the guys, and I felt that was the team.
They're right there, That team was right there, was gonna
be able to compete and we off, we was off
(23:38):
to a great start, and bull them all of a sudden,
everybody got traded.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Playing in a couple of organizations. Do you think James
Dolan mismanages the entire next organization?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I definitely do. I like mister Dolan, but I think,
you know, and I think that's what he's doing now city.
I think he's kind of understanding that because he got
he brought great people in, he got wet. Yeah, I
think Leon Ro you got you got the great guys
that's coming in. So I think now that you know,
it's different than when I was there, you know, because
(24:09):
I heard all the talk Dolan needs, Dolan's just Dolan's that.
But for me, I met Thlan a few times and
you know, he had brought me to the Knicks, and
you know, I ain't got nothing but respect for him.
But I think he's starting to understand now that let
other people, you know, take over him, you know, maybe him,
maybe I step back a little bit. Let these guys
run the show. So I think that's what's going on.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Now, what was it different?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
New York? New York's to Mecca, bro I mean ship
that's to Mecca. But you know, Nick's got a lot
of history.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But Dolan, I think I think Dolan's thing was because
you know you you played in the Guarden. It's sold
out every night, no matter who's on the roster. It's
in the middle of Manhattan. So I don't think that, Yeah, Dolan,
don't He don't really have a Like, it's not broke.
The brand sells itself and no matter who I have
on his team, who's coaching, every game is.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Gonna be sold out.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But that fosta that while you were here looking back,
I'm like, I just don't understand how this team didn't, like,
you know what I'm saying, Like one of the greatest
powerfowlds ever, the greatest sixth man ever, one of the
greatest point guards ever, all of these got David Lee,
like all of these guys, and I'm just like, how
the fuck did they not keep this call?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Together and at least get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I didn't understand that, man, I really didn't, because, you know,
like I said, the squad that they had and started
that we had when I was there that short period
of time, we had a squad bro and we all
got along and we all believed like that. That year
we got traded, we was like, oh yeah, we about
to loook. They ass okay, oh yeah, come.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
On, like yeah it was you could see it.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What was the difference like playing in New York as
opposed to Portland, Memphis, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Man, Like you said this to America, just been in
New York. It's just the lights and the glass, the
camera to action, man, you know what I mean. Don't
get no bigger than New York City, you know what
I mean. Portland was great because it was, like you said,
it was crowding, sold out, you know, most every night
in Portland. So the fans was great there too, But
that New York just got a different different bud, differ energy. Man.
It's just different than New York. Just different. Man.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What celebrity court side made you play a little bit
harder that game?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Good question?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah it, Tayler.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know you know what, Holly Berry.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, that the way you up?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, very term. Yeah it was man to okay.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, remember your stats from that night, man, you know my.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Stats in New York was good. I have plenty plenty two.
I think that game probably twenty and fifteen game.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, a very night period.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So but you know, every night, every home game New
York turned up. It's start study, you know what I mean?
She it was like damn, damn, you know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
How has it been? Because you you have a you
have a personality. I think a lot of people know that.
You know, obviously your personality is big as big as
your game. But how has it been transitioned into the pod?
Like doing podcasts with you and Ta, y'all get to
sit around, talk shit, talk, tell some stories and from
two players who were very very aggressive on the court
(27:18):
now get to sit down and talk to guys that
you played against, relive some of the battles and some
of the moments.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You add, how has podcasting been for y'all?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Man? It's been good, man, it been good. Just like
getting a lot of feedback from from our peers, from
you know, from Matt and from stack Jack, you know, guys.
Then we talked to Gil and d Mons and the
guys is in the space, which I think every one
of the guys should be in the space. From Draymond Draymond,
like Draymond Barron, all them guys, them guys in motivation.
(27:47):
So for us we rough around the edges, you know
what I mean, Like it ain't no, we ain't give
it to you personally, give it to you raw. You
feel me like stuff like it ain't gonna be No.
We're given giving hoonies they love showing love, but we're
gonna talk about some real shit too. But it ain't
never to get on there. And I ain't never try to,
you know, talk down on nobody. Are we just giving
(28:09):
giving brothers Day flowers? You know what I'm saying? Just
swing love. You know, out the mud, Everybody out the
mud somewhere somehow, you know what I mean, Right, You know,
everybody got a story, you know what I mean. And
it ain't got to be coming up in power. You
could be the richest, you could be whatever, but it's
still out there. You still got out the mud experience
somewhere somehow your life, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
What I mean, Who's been your favorite guests so far, man.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know what, we have some good guests, Man, have
some good guess it ain't it just right now. It
ain't no favor for me because all of them been good.
Like we just had Sashage Volages. You know, he's a champion.
You know, he never did a pod so that was
great sitting talking to him. You know, he comes from
a different country where awards that he had to you know, war,
they was dropping bombs and like real out the mudshit.
(28:57):
So it's like, wow, you know what I mean here
what these guys been through with talking to Big Spain
Arkansos just his experience and it's been great man, uh
Kadi d Rose, all them guys showing us love man,
and we showing love back to the real ones man.
And it's been great, bro for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Who out of everyone you play with, would you say
I had the worst music taste in the locker room ever?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Who was playing that bullshit?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Who was playing that bulls shit?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
How many times you have to unplug the speaker?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh? I had to unplugged the speaker a lot of
times actually playing this boys shit? Yeah you know who? Uh?
Now t A plays some good music? Uh A lot
of them guys, probably she Wallace. He's kind of playing
some boys. Shit. You know, I'm I'm listening. I'm bumping forty.
(29:57):
He talking about man's don't put on forty put some beans,
but I listen to beans.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, he's you know, he's gonna keep it Philly. He
gonna keep it Philly.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You know, she's gonna keep it straight, Philly easy, you
know what I mean. I'm from the West, so I'll
keep it a little everything.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Nah, but uh, he's always played music. I think for
us we love music, man, and I think the artists
they want to they used to play basketball. So it's
like a perfect you know, man.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's always it's old rappers and ball players.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, so it's it's crazy like that. You know that.
You know if you each artist probably then't play ball.
Blag money bag. He thinks he got to jump ship.
Tell him he ain't. He ain't good, you know what
I mean. So I just think all these guys, all
the all these guys love music, man, all the NBA players,
you know, that's all we you see, we got our
(30:47):
listen to warming up with our headphones on now, and
it's just it fits good with us. Man, with with
with athletes, you know what I mean? And vice versa.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Who's shoying to wrap in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Mike Colly? Mike Cony used to rap a little bit work.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I can't Mike Colly rap.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
He just said he say a few little bars. You know,
he say a little J Cole He got say a
little J Cole bars.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Okay, okay, all right, I thought Mike so laid back
and quiet.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Man. Yeah, yeah, he laid back quiet. So you get
to Norway? Who else? A lot of guys rap? Man? Uh,
we go going to be rappers or or any game. Yeah,
I can't do no rapping though.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
You ain't doing no rapping.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I ain't doing no rap. I might. I might get
in get in the booth though, and drop a sixteen
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, how has it been?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
On?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
First all?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm meant to but at the top, I meant to
gratulate you. Your daughter, Uh, congratulations, she's at Louisville now.
She was also McDonald's All American and I saw you posted, uh,
your McDonald's All American card and her McDonald's All American card.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
How was that for you just as a as a father?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
How crazy was that moment to really like see that happen.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
H then you know what it gave me butterflies, man,
just being able to relive it again and see my
daughter do it better than me. You know, wanted my
kids to be better than me and see her worth
ethic in the way she loves playing. And it meant
so much more to me to see my baby in
a situation that like, and seeing her playing the McDonald's
(32:22):
All American Game, and it really gives you flashbacks, like, damn,
that was me. You know, I remember my game was
in Boston. You know their ear and you know they're
they're doing the same thing, going to see the sights
and you know, I mc donald houses or whatever they're doing,
they're doing for the itinerary, and it just brought black flashback.
So man, it's been great. Man. My daughter she works hard.
(32:42):
I'm proud of her. Man, it's a big summer for it.
So she'd be a sophomore next year, and we were working,
were working.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I know you got in the gym. I know you
got in the gym.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Work, work, work.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I've heard like Blake Griffin talk about his pops was
his coach all throughout his entire life.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Did you coach her through high school or just trained?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
How did you balance that between me and her dad
and then training her to be at the level that
she's at now?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Well, you know what, It's so funny. I'm near, she
like dad, So I was like, come on, do this.
She's like okay. But then I get a trainer and
she's like okay, So I'm near. I just let the
trainer do the work and then I rebound short some things,
you know what I mean. And so you know, with
them kids, man, I don't know they want to they
work hard for the next person. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
They don't. She don't work, she don't. She just don't.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, your dad because your dad. First, she don't know
z She don't know z Bo. She don't know the
killer on the court. She know dad, man, So she
ain't listening to to dad. But if she goes turn
that YouTube on and look at look at some Zach
random highlights, she gonna know she she needs to be
listening to that training end that train ain't do it
at that level.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
He ain't do it at that level.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I try to tell her, man, all right, we we.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
We scoured through some of the rappers that mentioned your
name in their bars throughout the throughout the years of
of of you playing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
So we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm gonna try my best to give you the same
cadence in the same flow, but I'm gonna recite some
of these lyrics, and I want you to try to
guess who the artist is that uh that wrote these bars.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Maul's gonna have to take most of this segment because
I can't say a lot of this.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Some words that Rory just can't say, z bo. He can't,
he can't, he can't say the word.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
All right, first one, uh ball and four I went
to Memphis, Nigga, I'm Zach Randolph. As soon as you
change the price, I ain't think twice nigga, I ran off.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Uh estz that's correct s t wrong. Yeah, we gotta
we have to stop with this trend to run it
off on the plug. Yeah, that's just it can't be. Yeah,
that's a dangerous that's a dangerous energy to be.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Putting out there. We're gonna do another one. He gonna
get this one on a private jet about to take off.
I ain't really with the back and forth talk fifty
in the glock. Zach Randolph man money bags, money bag,
yo prayers. All right, let's see, let me try another one.
It was three digits in the clip until his man's
ran off. Dumb decision gave him half. Zach Randolph.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Three clips. Uh, it's a tough one.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's baby tron cat dog.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Shot to baby trump Man. Yeah, I think my son
might have told me by him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, it's trunk.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Let me see. Let me give you one more, the
last one, the last one.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All right, living my best life, shorty, you can't never
get attached. Went to the plug, got a couple of p's,
then I ran off like Zach.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Boy rowdy Roddy Rich Rich, shouting boy, Roddy Rich.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Everyone did the runaway scheme, Zach zachtly listen so you
hear when these niggas got your name out this, you
might as well.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Go with this one.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Which one is that?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
One? Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
One more?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Water Wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball in
the jungle. I'm a grizzy like I'm Zach Randolph, No
doubt one. I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Only time. Water Wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball.
In the jungle. I'm a grizzy like I'm Zach Randolph.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Damn, I don't know that one is that's Drake Drake
the Rulers rake Yo Drake Yo yo yo.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
How was that?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
How was that the first time you heard your name
in a rap?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like? How?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
How how long did you play that song? How many
times you brought that verse back the first time you
heard it?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
And who was the artist? Who was the first artist
you heard put your name in the bar?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
You know what? Then the little homies out of I'm front,
you know what I mean. Little Germ one of the
first guys you know what I mean, they rap, He
started rapping. You know, I got in the league. He
put put my and some songs. So really, people from
where I'm from, you know what I mean? And like
you said, like the ariwdy Riches, the money bag said, Yo, Gottis.
(37:07):
You know what I mean? That's my man. So a
lot of guys been showing me love man on these
uh put me in these verses. I like that, you
know what I mean. I got a little young brother
out here name pay So he hard too, you know
he gotta. He got a song called Zach Randolph. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
So, wait, where's where's paysco from?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
A A f N A f N pays So he
got a song called Zach Randolph.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Okay, okay, you gotta check it out.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
So af n he he's been making noise.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So is that the same So that was on Kendrick's
album or a different pay.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't know, a f N pay so cold? Yeah
take him out? He hard but yeah. So it's it's
a lot of guys that be showing me some love
in the uh in the music, man. You know, they
recognized a real one. Man. I recognized them too, you
know what I'm saying. So it's all love.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Show who was the first rapper that you met once
you got to the league and they knew who you were?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
First rapper. I'm mad they got to it, man, he
got I've been doing it a long time, man. You
know all them guys, Uh probably luded Chris when I
was seventeen eight. When I was eighteen, they had came
to Portland working to do a show. Oh wow, yeah,
(38:35):
this's before the season, my rookie season. And I came
and I met his little brother, Fate, little Fate Rapp.
They're like, man, we we fuck with you, z bow Man.
And you know I had gave him my jersey's when
I was worrying number seven. I had just got drafted.
I had number seven. I gave gave him my jersey
gouse at the show, They're like, man, we're a big four.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
He got a number seven Zach Randolph Blazers.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, when I first got drafted, they ended up changing,
but it was seven, so I think we had I
think Greg Anthony had got traded. They hear or somebody
had their fifty, probably Greg Anthony, Greg Anthony or Brian
uh I forgot last name, but he was a big
So then that's when I got that fifty back.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, zebo.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You ever thought about getting into coaching, like on a
real level, like at the league level.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You know, I always think about it, and the guys
always tell me I should, just to you know, get
that knowledge I got helped the bigs in it in
my game and getting knowledge of the game that I
know that to help help. So I'll be thinking about it,
I really do. But you know, I know the coaching
is a lot I enjoyed. You know, my kids, my
daughter she got games at college. I like going to
(39:43):
her games. Uh. You know, my son got an eleven
year old and fifteen year old daughter. Seven. They be busy,
so like I like to be, you know, go watch
them play and joyce like coaching. I don't know, but
I thought about it, but I don't know, maybe you
know what I mean, in the future, but not right now.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yes, we just saw last what maybe maybe two weeks
ago now the Nuggets fired coach Malone out of it
would seem like nowhere to us, Like we didn't have no,
no knowledge of that as somebody that you know obviously
played at the highest level. How how surprising were you
of the news of of them firing a coach that
(40:23):
I just come fresh off a championship two years ago
and you know his team is still one of the
best teams in the league. How surprised were you at
that at the firing.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I definitely was surprised. Coach Malone is a great coach.
You know, I don't know what you know, what was
going on in term or you know what they got
from the outside looking in the coaches players respect and
even on that Coach Malone was a loyal coach. You know,
he led different Nuggets and he did whatever he could
excuse me too for their team to be successful. And
(40:54):
he gave his heart and he gave it all. So
at the end of the day, you know, coaches just
coaches get fired, players get traded, you know what I mean.
So it all comes hand in hand. But I could
take one thing about coach Malone's great coach, great guy,
and uh, he's gonna go to war for you. He's
gonna go back for his players.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Now you obviously, I think it's safe to say this.
They had to run that biokics before they did that. Like,
I don't think they can make that move without consulting.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Because to get tricky. Man should get tricky when it
comes to that. You know, these guys, these owners, they
don't you know, some of them do. Some of them don't,
you know what I mean. So I don't know and
get tricky because you got some owners you know, they
like ship this is our team. We run it, you know,
like they don't tell players when they getting traded and
trade you. So it's kind of like hand in hand.
(41:47):
So I don't know if they tell Yoka Chad, you know,
they could have.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think he came out and said that they you know,
they they spoke to him, though. I guess right before
they was about to fire him, they told him why
they were doing it, but he said, basically, he had
no he had no calling it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I don't know if I believe that.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I believe Jokich is the is, He's the he is
the franchise, and I think that they have to run
everything through him. I'm not saying it was a personal
thing between Yo kitchen coach. I'm not gonna go that route,
but I do think that he had to he had
to know something. I think that it was more surprising
for Luca to get traded this was for coach Malone
(42:27):
to get fired from dev I think the Luca trade
was absolutely I don't I think nobody, you know, I
don't think Luca didn't even know about that, But I
think that I think that I think that Jokis definitely
knew about coach Malone being let go before they obviously
did it. What did you think about the uh, the
Luca trade?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, it was surprising when I heard it, but
I'm like, you know, what the hell? You know what
I mean, It's just like everybody else was and uh,
you know, Coach Nico, that's my man. Too, you know
what I mean. Like I said, De Coosina vision too.
You know what I mean that you know he's saw
and the owners or whoever above him saw and they
(43:06):
went with the move. Like I said, this just the NBA. Man,
anything can happen, you know what I mean. Shit, you know,
some of the best go to different teams. So, like
I said, it was God's playing. Like I said, this
is probably what God wanted for Luca and it's working
out the best. Now. Mm.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Being from Indiana, how do you feel about Freddy Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Man, I fuck with Freddy Fredi the Donamer you know
what I mean. Freddy got a great talent. You know,
he putting on for the Indiana, putting on for g
I you know what I mean. So you know, no respect,
you know when you got the Indiana guy coming out
and hard like he is, you know what I mean.
So I fuck with Freddy.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Have you y'all connected before?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:41):
For sure? Hell yeah. I'm surprised were trying to do
some shit together, you know what I mean, with some
of the artists and him, because you know he hard,
you know what I mean, and I like his music.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I'm surprised this knows Zacharando for us from Freddy, I
think he's just due up for.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Absolute led fred Man, Yeah, pop my thing, get in
this video, pop.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
My comar before we get out of here. Top five
Memphis rappers of all time.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I ain't got no order because it's so much talent,
so much man from Project Path to money bag Yold
to three six Months, The Young Dog to Uh eight Ball,
m J G. Man, Myphs got so much talent. I mean,
I keep going, Yo, gottis to you know what I mean,
(44:33):
to player fly like it's so many artists, gangster black,
you know what I mean, Like Little White, Yeah, so many.
You know, Memphis got so much talent.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know they get the credit they deserve Memphis, But
we do what we don't.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Because they know what it is. You knowe what I'm saying.
They know, they don't want to say it, but everybody
knows it, you know what I mean. That's why you
got all the big time labels and Memphis signing all
these artists, all these producers, every label they in Memphis.
They got guys on the ground, Yeah, going around looking
for talent. You know what I mean. We need to
keep all the talent in house. You know what I mean.
(45:11):
I ain't just saying to endless to in the house
to the people that's got that going on where they
can put these artists out. So because they in the city, man,
they in the city, they work. They trying to take
everybody out the city, man, which I don't blame them
because it's business. And these kids and men and women
in Memphis are talented, you know what I mean, not
(45:32):
just on the musical side, on them creative creative top
side too. You know, let's not forget about the creative side,
you know what I mean, Because so city got it
going on. It's got a bad negative Like people be
scared of Memphis, but Memphis is a blue blue collar town,
blue collar hardworking people like myself, you know, just out
(45:53):
the mud. Is nothing given easy.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Being a music executiveself.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Can you speak to what Yo Gotti is built with
seeing because I feel like he doesn't get brought up
in the conversations when you're talking cash money, Rockefeller death row,
Like Yo Gotti has really built an empire with CMG man.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Man, hats off kudos to my bro Yo Gotti. Man.
Not only that I've seen got he grind like I've
always was a fan of got his music and just
to see him being being able to be around him
and see him grow to where he's at now. He
being grinding this ship. Ain't this shit wan't easy? Got
you out the Moud? He really got the Moud like
this shit he ripping about like he ain't. He ain't
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telling them lies and guys respected. You know, he's a businessman.
He's a business minded person and he all he does
is work, work, work, you know what I mean. God,
he is a workaholic, and you got to work to
what you want to do. And God is a prime
example of being in this game, taking steps of working
to where he gets. And I'm proud of you. Man.
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He done created Henne, created something for his family and
a pass on and she building for sure legendary label already.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
All right, ze Bo, Well, we appreciate you man. It's
good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I gotta I gotta link with you next time I'm
out there on the West coast.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
We gotta hang out man, and we love what you
and Tony Allen is doing. Continue to do what you're
doing without the mud and definitely wanted me and Ror.
We gotta come by and.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Sit on the.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Definite definitely gonna make it happen. Man, it was good
talking to you. Appreciate you, Bro, Appreciate you
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, roll, we're back for another episode of Don't
Know Ball. Today we are joined by somebody who absolutely
knows ball. One of my favorite players, seventeen year NBA veteran,
a guy that you know dominated his position. Uh, it
was fun to watch, very smooth. You know, it was
lefty down there on the block. So you know you
(00:30):
can't do nothing with that down there on the block
when they left.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good, good dude, man, A guy that I spent some
time around while he was playing, had some some some
good nights, good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Nights out in the city.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We are joined by z bo Zach Randolph himself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Fellas.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Before we get into anything, I want to ask you,
do you have any mall stories? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's my brother.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man' what's thes club?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I see man do a lot of sh practice. One
of the best ever mall handlers that ever played the game. Okay, many, yeah, see.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well how you've been man, I'm you first of all,
congratulations on retirement, wrapping up a great a great career
as a guy that you know, you know watching you play,
you know you and one of my other favorite players
to watch growing up, Derek Coleman remind me a lot
of se Derek Coleman, how was how was adjusting to retirement?
(01:39):
How has that been for you?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Man? It be good? You know for me because I
had things set up. You know, I got an entertainment
company called Endless Entertainment. Uh started back in Memphis. Uh
huh Me and my partner, partner, one of my best
friend Marcus how And you know, I had a chance,
you know, being blessed to sign money bag, you know,
one of the best rappers in the game, best artists,
(02:00):
best lyricists, and that its blessing, you know what I mean.
And got more talent in the city and other states
and just been working. Man, it's just been grinding. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You you you've I mean, you know, obviously what you
did in Portland and hearing New York in your career
was great. But what you did down in Memphis, you know,
they it has to be at least twelve statues of
Zbo around the city, around the city of Memphis at
some point.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
How is how is uh?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
How has it been adjusting to uh, you know, getting
into business and and like you said, signing money back.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
You know, how was that experiencement for you?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Man? It's been good? You know, I started I started
at the record label while when I was playing in Memphis,
so I was still you know, working and grinding with
the team. So it was good. It was a smooth transition.
You know a lot of guys uh that starts uh labels,
it's always the opposite, you know, it always it's not
a good turnout. You know. I know guys that when
(02:54):
I came into the league, guys started labels. They was like, man,
I lost four million. I'm eighteen nineteen, you know, O
G is talking about how they lost four of them. Like, shit,
I ain't even have a million, yea. You know, I
always was, you know, just always was annoyed and scared about,
you know, getting to music. But music but Memphis. I
had so much talent, man, and so much you know,
(03:15):
culture and uh so many talent artists. Man, it was
the best thing to do. So you know, it was
a blessing. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
How did you first originally get in contact with money Bag?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Ye Uh the city that's been in Memphis, you know,
Uh me being in the city, I give it back
to the city, you know what I'm saying. I give
back and uh around the city, around the community, you
know what I mean. And he wanted to work with
work with me, you know what I mean. He was
up and coming and you know he's seen the Lord.
He there, he's seen the honor and he wanted to
(03:47):
get on the train. I seen it in him too,
you know, the talent and you know, special artist he was,
and so it was just perfect fit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What was it like navigating starting that label and having
an artist like money Bag Year It was?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It was good. It was good, man, just been you know,
just getting out there learning things and seeing how that
music industry worked with bad coming up and all kinds
of different things. So, man, I could it was the
best experience ever, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
So it was the best experience ever. And I can't complain. Man,
it ben been a blessing, you know what I mean,
(04:21):
just not only that, just to work with other artists
in the business space. You know, we got artist named
d Mulai, Big Homie g Big thirty Mother, Brother Bowl,
you know, Nick Hardbody. We got so many artists with
so much talent and our artist Lonely Girl. So it's
like it's a blessed man just getting in there and
getting the studio to you know, listening to different beats
(04:43):
and seeing hearing different artists and you know, tell their
side of the story.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now, zee, But we're from the same we We was
born the same year we came up, you know, the
same ear listening to music. How was the music adjusting
to the music now for you as opposed to when
we was coming up listening to hip hop?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
How was it? How was it?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Is your is still like damn saying what I'm used
to it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I gotta kind of get used to this new sound,
this new way, because now I'm invested financially and as
a businessman with these artists.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, it's definitely different now. I think. Now it's more.
You know, you got different you got different germs, you
got the hip hop, but you also got the different
kind of hip hops, right, you know. I like where
it's at. You know, I'm a fan of music, and
not only that, I love all music. I listen to
a lot of R and B, a lot of old
R and B, a lot of you know, hip hops.
(05:29):
You know, I like Latin music. I like I like
all types of germs and music. So, you know, just
learn about different germs. I think what else would be
So just stuck with the hip hop but no, it's
other germs out there. That's that's good music. So for me,
I love music man all the way around.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
What type of artists were you listening to as a
kid man?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know? For me, I'm from the Mere West, from Mary, Indiana,
So I grew up listening you know, uh m C eight,
you know, h MC breed, you know, top authority, Uh
bust the rhyme, so spice one. Uh you know brother Lynch,
hug Ce Bow, Yeah, you know so uh three six Mafia,
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you know. So I because where I'm from, we we
listened everything for a mini so you know I grew
up missing everything.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Well you got how far you got from Chicago?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Uh, Chicago about two hours?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Two hours?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So you attached more to the Chicago scene too, sometimes
like Twister, Twister.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do or Die? Like I grew up, That's that was
my era, you know what I mean. I grew up
listening to that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Now, you was drafted to Portland. Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
At the time where you got there, they dubbed out
of jail Blazers because because of your style of play.
Talk to that transition coming in from from college, coming
in from Michigan State Holly Towdy, one of the best
players in college coming out. Uh, when you got to Portland,
who was the who was your vet? Who was the
guy that put his arms around you and kind of
(07:02):
like helped you, helps you get your legs under you
in the league?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Man, you know what it was? It was all it
was all the ogz from Buzzy Wells to Damon Stodomayer
to Rashidi Wallace. All them guys took me under their
wings some way or somehow, And I learned something every
one of them guys, you know, as a as a
young man coming into the NBA, trying to find my
way and looking up in them guys, looking up to
(07:27):
the receives and watching how they scotty people, how they
conduct being a professional, you know, showing up, being a
first practice, you know, in the weight room, doing things
like this. So I learned a bit from I learned
something from all them guys. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Now a name you mentioned that's another you know, revolutionized
the powerful position, Rashi Wallace. What was those battles like
for young z bo coming in and having to be
in practice and having a guard sheet and got and
go at st Wallace?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That was tough. Man, like you said, coming in, you know,
eighteen year old, nineteen year old rookie looking up to
them guys, you know what I mean. She she was
one of my favorite players coming you know, growing up,
you know what I mean. And so just getting to
compete against him, you know, uh the bigs are Vitas
the Bonus, one of the best passing bigs that ever
played the game. And uh so just competing against them
(08:20):
guys every day, you know, coming in. I didn't play
my first couple of years in the league, but I
got so much better. They practice, going at the boys
talking ship going in, she she talking, you know, shitting
me and all the other guys. That making me compete harder,
you know, our practices. It was, man, it was it was.
(08:40):
It was on like guys literally get to fighting and
cussing each other out. Like it was that type of
like now we're gonna bust our ass, like the second team,
like we had a whip, you know what I'm saying.
We wasn't just going you know.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, one of the one of the names you threw
out there, Vitas the Bonus. You know how I'm a
little you know, we we obviously the same age, but
I hear a lot of you know, praise and talk
about Jokic, and rightfully so, I think what he's doing
is amazing and he's one of the one of my
favorite players to watch. But I'm old enough to remember
what Sabonis look like and and and you know, a
(09:13):
lot of people, a lot of people don't know, but
Sabonis before the injuries and how he dominated over in
the EuroLeague and things that he was doing. How was it,
you know, for somebody like you who actually saw that
up closing personal And then you get to look at
guys like Joker today in the league and you don't
but you don't hear guys, you know, they say, oh,
we've never seen nothing like this. But somebody like Zach Randolph,
(09:34):
who was in practice with our Vida Sibonis, how is
that for you like to sit down and sit back
and hear God say that we've never seen nothing like this,
and you've actually played with some of the most legendary
big men of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And yeah, like I said, just noticed people, you know.
And it's depending on who who's saying it too, because
like you said, our Vida's he was he was a
one of a kind, like Jokic. Jokic, he's a special
player on the best the play the game. But got
a lot of Markus. So Mark Saul had the same thing.
They remind me each other a lot, you know what
(10:06):
I mean when they lead the team with the past,
like Mark was our i Q on the team defensively
and offensively. He get everybody going. He got me going
on both ends, you know what I mean, and got
me a test. So just seeing how they play, they
reminded me so much of each other. And like you said,
he got a lot of r Vedas in Yokic. Does
you know he's a special player, But like you said,
(10:27):
there's players that just before him that you can they
put in that same realm of things with with with yolks,
like hey, you got a lot of this, You got
a lot of r Vedas, you got a lot of
mark in You guys did play this game.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you ever sit back and watch the game today
when you see guys like Yogic and you kind of
sit there in front of the TV and rub your
hands together, like, damn, I wish I had I wish
I had a shot at him because I know exactly
how I had to guard him. He got to come
back and guard you Now, Like, how is it watching
the game now with these guys like Yokics and you
sitting back knowing what you did and you're style of play, Like,
do you ever sit and wish you had that opportunity
(11:03):
to match up?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You know what, Man, I got to play against's younger years.
You know, you know when I played against he always
had talent, Like you said, he always had them in tengibles.
Always can score the ball and pass the ball and
he can shoot it. And can you knew he was
gonna be a good player. And you look at his
progression of playing and you see that he's getting better.
So yeah, man, I see I sit back and watch
(11:24):
these young fellas play there. It's a lot of talent.
But damn right, I wish I could get out there
and go at them boys and throw some elbows and
you know, give him a little that old school you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, them boys is tough. Though.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you ever do you ever watch the game now
today and ever feel like you know, most of the
fans today we kind of feel like the game has
changed so much because, like when you were in Portland,
the style of play in the league then, even not
even Portland Memphis.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The style of play is so.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Different, and not just team by team, It's like around
the league unanimously, everybody is playing the same it's just
shoot threes, shoot threes. I read something that the commissioner
is thinking about introducing the full point shot at some
point in the next couple of years. Do you just
feel like the game is kind of getting away from
(12:16):
one the physicality and to just the essence of like
real basketball, because you know, you see guys get up
and down and everybody stop at the three point line
and just shoot threes. It's like, Okay, I get it,
but that kind of takes away some of the fabric
of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Though. Yeah, I definitely understand what you're saying. You know,
the game has changed, you know what I mean, Like
it's a lot of more shooting, a lot of more
three point But at the same time, I get the
game credit because the fundamentals, it's definitely not where it was.
It's more these guys are six seven feet shoot threes,
picking and popping. Like the game has changed. But at
the same point, you know, I feel like, for me,
(12:53):
like basketball it's not like it used to be. But
you're gonna get that. It's like a revolving clock. Always
say it all the time. I think it's going which
to come back around. You're going to have a draft
for maybe five years from now, six years from now,
you're gonna have six seven footers, you know what I mean.
You're gonna have two sacks coming in where guys like
Zach Edy, you know what I mean, in a post
and playing. So I think the game has changed and
(13:15):
the guys, a lot of a lot of guys want
to play a lot of teams personally don't want to
play like Golden State. They don't want who set who
set this tree and started playing this way with the
three point shooting. I think for that, you got to
have a personnel. Now, if you got a team, you
got some guys on the on the team that you
got shooters and you got knocked down threes, and you
(13:37):
could play that way. That's understandable. But I feel like
the teams need to play to their strength of what
their personnel is on her on her team, you know
what I mean. And some strength might be post player,
pick and pop, shoot threes, but teams need to play
to their strength of their personnel.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Now a couple uh, a couple of seasons ago. Uh,
the new the new face down there in Memphis. Jam
ran into some troubles away from the court. Did you ever,
did you get the opportunity to kind of like tap
in with him and reach and reach out to him
and kind of put your m around him and got
him a little bit?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh for sure. You know that's a little bro. He
family man. Him, his dad's to his sister's mother. You know,
that's family. You know, myth is a small community and
it's all love. And you know, I've been through a
lot of shit. You know, I don't not I don't
tap my head a few times. That's all right though.
You know how you bounce back is that's how you
come so and that's how you be your bount Your
(14:26):
bounce back is real. So, like I tell a little
bro just you know, adversity man a small thing to
a john. You get knocked down and get back up.
And that's what he's doing, you know. I mean, like
he's saying like he's one of the best players in
the NBA. Really to face the NBA. All these kids
want to be like yoah, you know, at the end
of the day, you know. So I just feel like
(14:49):
it's just amount of setback for a major comeback. And
that's what he's doing. He's on the major comeback, you know,
just keeping his nose clean, and that's all it is.
Keeping those clean and stay out of things and everything
else will take care of self.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Stay off Instagram. Stay off Instagram.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I got stuff that I did.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Register your guns and stay off Instagram.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I was reading the stat that Portland has the most
strip clubs per square mile in the entire country every quarter. Bro,
I've never been to a strip club. I've never been
in Portland period, So I've never been to a strip
club in Portland.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
What's the culture like?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, tell people about because I got a chance to
go to Portland a couple of times and I was surprised.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But you actually lived there for some years. Tell people
exactly how like Portland is an underrated city man.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And Portland is a great city man. The fans is great.
Only thing about Portland. Just go there in the summertime
during the season. It rains every day, bro, I mean
every day, like that ship can be depressed it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But size your reign the city, great man of fans,
some of the best fans that I ever played, play
for every night there. They're loyal, they love they Trailblazers man,
and uh, Porler is a great city. Ain't got nothing
bad to say about this city, you know. I mean
just it rained a lot in the season, but an
all season is so beautiful as green noumidity. I got
(16:15):
businesses still down there, so I'm always in Portland. A
lot of friends around there, and so I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Always in the city, Memphis Strip clubs or Portland strip clubs.
I'm staying on the strip clubs.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Gotta go Memphis. That's Z boy. Memphis.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Memphis cool. But Memphi's small too and small. But uh,
I say, uh, Portland got a lot of more exotics.
So I like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Exotics. I like they got more enxiety, they got more flavor. Yeah,
every every four feet, I mean you got yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But who was the who was the hardest player?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Now again, I watched a lot of your games, and
I can't remember, but I'm gonna guess you're gonna say,
Tim Duncan to this, to this, to this question, But
who was the hardest player you had to guard?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Man? For me, it's a lot of Tim Duncan, definitely,
Tim Duncan, Kg them two guys for me was the
hardest and Dirt New Whiskey, you know what I mean,
coming up my ear. Uh you know the wild, wild
West man. You know I played in the West and
then it was all forwards Chris Weber one night Uh, Dirt,
(17:21):
Tim Kg, Carlos Boozer, Andre Carolinko, Elton brand lamar Oldham
like every team in the West, their players, their star.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Players, the powerful Marcus Aldridge l.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
A, you know what I mean. So it's like where
never was no night off? You know in Portland.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Who's the hardest to garden at all those names?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I probably say kg, KG and Dunk in my time
to you know, ticket just being long and being you know, wiry,
grabbing you hands, this big grabbing you. The reps let
me do it, and the reps looking at me do it.
So he like, you know, he got away with murders.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So I say, I remember one one, one incident you
had on the court a few years ago. It was
personally personally, I liked it because again I got a
chance to spend some some personal time range.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
So I know your personality, but but I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Also know it was out of love. You and DeMarcus
Cousins got into the little Big bro and yeah, yeah, no,
And and I know you love him, I know you
got loved for him. But you told him, you said,
where I'm from, we bully the bully. What did you
mean by I know what you meant by that? But
a lot of people didn't understand what Zach Randolph meant
by that.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Man? You know what? May you know me and DeMarcus
we always talked ship when we used to play against
each other. Yeah, this time he was fucking with his
teammate Buddy Ill. You know him and Buddy play together. Yeah,
so I hear him just talking to Buddy. I look up,
I say, yeah, I'm working the bullies get bullied, you
know what I mean? Yeah, we laughed and Ship laughed
about it. But no, it's all good. Though he was
(18:51):
one of them, was one of the guys get bullied though.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, that's a fact. That's a fact he was. DeMarcus
Cousins was one of the guys too. You know when
they when they talk about the Big Man and you
know the Yolks and the z bos. Before his injuries,
you know, DeMarcus Cousins was one of the most electrifying
big men to watch. I mean, he he was a
revolutionized the position too, for his his window that he
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had held run the floor, he could pass, he could shoot,
he could dribble, he could post up. How how was
it watching his development against him being your little bro?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
How was that for you? Man? Watching him? Watching Boogie
was was great because like I said, he's like what
you just said, He's one of the guys that revolution
revolute power center. He can shoot the ball. He was big.
Every time I played against Booge, I had to get
my rest that night because I knew it was gonna
be a dog fight and so definitely so but like
you said, look brought the way he plays a game.
(19:46):
Like you said, I think he definitely should have played
longer than he did. Uh. But you know, it's a
lot of politics in the game too. But he's definitely
one of the best ever to play in the game. Still,
even though with his career, had for me because I
know Boogie he can shoot the ball, he can handle it,
and he's seven feet and he likes contact.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
He gives you that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He hits you first. He liked me. He's a hit
type first guy. Yeah, so and but definitely and and
I feel like, you know, I feel like guys like
me and Boogie we don't get our duke. You know,
we kind of rough around the edges and you know,
we kind of you know, don't get get the respect
or get to do what we need to do. But
Boogies want the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You you played on the at Michigan State un the
legendary coach Tom Izzo. Uh, what do you feel about one?
N I L And to the transfer portal? How do
you how do you feel about those two things?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Man? N I L. I feel like that's a great thing.
A lot of these kids ain't gonna ever have a
chance to make that much money in their career or
in their college life or even after their their career
planning sports. So I feel like that's a great thing
for him. But I think we need to put a
cap on it somewhere. We need to start making it
(20:59):
like a like contracts kind of how like the NBA
is like, you know, you need to put it stipulations,
you know what I mean. I think that's where it's going.
I think eventually it's gonna have rules and stipulations, you know,
like a cap or something with this nil because you
know every year, you know, the team's no more cinder
of the teams. There's no more teams building up from
you know, to be able to have a good teams.
(21:20):
It's like the money. You know, how much money you got,
that's how I go. So if you got some money,
that university got some money, you gonna have a good team.
And I think, you know, it's kind of hurting the game.
It's definitely hurting younger players because it's it's definitely a
lot of high school players don't get scholarships no more.
There's a lot of a lot of a lot of players,
(21:40):
young younger players just missing out because of the older
guys in the transportal. And you know, you can be
a certain age now. So I think it needed to
get looked at it again and put some put some
stipulations on it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Do you think that'll keep the players in college longer
rather than one and done and going right to the league.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well, I feel like the players just want and done,
Like I was the one and done player. Them players
stand alone because Cooper flags the Queens, the Ace, Bailey's
and the Harper's dealing them guys stand alone. So nephew
Jason Richardson. So some guys I think them the top
(22:20):
players they stand alone. But like for everybody else, you
know what I mean, Yeah, that's not a first round
pick or you know they they own a teeter of
could be in the NBA or going overseas.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now, when you was out here, z Bow with the Knicks,
y'all had a great looking at that roster. Man, I
just don't I don't. I don't understand how y'all didn't
have more success. Y'all had some dogs on that roster.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
It was hopeful. When what what do you think went wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Now with with the talent y'all had that made that
may have been one of the most talented Nicks rosters.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Man, you know what it was, bro if the first
year I got there, I got think I got there
for the beginning of this season. I got traded the
next season during the deadline. That the next season when
we was off and running, I think we have it
was nine and two or eight, I mean we was above.
It was like four or five games the boy five hundred,
(23:18):
so we were starting to take off and then you
know the big Lebron dilemma. You know, I mean, they
thought Lebron was gonna come to New York and they
had a chance, and they got rid of all of us,
They got rid of me, mall. They trade, all trade
all the guys, and I felt that was the team.
They're right there, That team was right there, was gonna
be able to compete and we off, we was off
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to a great start, and bull them all of a sudden,
everybody got traded.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Playing in a couple of organizations. Do you think James
Dolan mismanages the entire next organization?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I definitely do. I like mister Dolan, but I think,
you know, and I think that's what he's doing now city.
I think he's kind of understanding that because he got
he brought great people in, he got wet. Yeah, I
think Leon Ro you got you got the great guys
that's coming in. So I think now that you know,
it's different than when I was there, you know, because
(24:09):
I heard all the talk Dolan needs, Dolan's just Dolan's that.
But for me, I met Thlan a few times and
you know, he had brought me to the Knicks, and
you know, I ain't got nothing but respect for him.
But I think he's starting to understand now that let
other people, you know, take over him, you know, maybe him,
maybe I step back a little bit. Let these guys
run the show. So I think that's what's going on.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Now, what was it different?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
New York? New York's to Mecca, bro I mean ship
that's to Mecca. But you know, Nick's got a lot
of history.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But Dolan, I think I think Dolan's thing was because
you know you you played in the Guarden. It's sold
out every night, no matter who's on the roster. It's
in the middle of Manhattan. So I don't think that, Yeah, Dolan,
don't He don't really have a Like, it's not broke.
The brand sells itself and no matter who I have
on his team, who's coaching, every game is.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Gonna be sold out.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But that fosta that while you were here looking back,
I'm like, I just don't understand how this team didn't, like,
you know what I'm saying, Like one of the greatest
powerfowlds ever, the greatest sixth man ever, one of the
greatest point guards ever, all of these got David Lee,
like all of these guys, and I'm just like, how
the fuck did they not keep this call?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Together and at least get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I didn't understand that, man, I really didn't, because, you know,
like I said, the squad that they had and started
that we had when I was there that short period
of time, we had a squad bro and we all
got along and we all believed like that. That year
we got traded, we was like, oh yeah, we about
to loook. They ass okay, oh yeah, come.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
On, like yeah it was you could see it.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What was the difference like playing in New York as
opposed to Portland, Memphis, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Man, Like you said this to America, just been in
New York. It's just the lights and the glass, the
camera to action, man, you know what I mean. Don't
get no bigger than New York City, you know what
I mean. Portland was great because it was, like you said,
it was crowding, sold out, you know, most every night
in Portland. So the fans was great there too, But
that New York just got a different different bud, differ energy. Man.
It's just different than New York. Just different. Man.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What celebrity court side made you play a little bit
harder that game?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Good question?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah it, Tayler.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You know you know what, Holly Berry.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, that the way you up?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, very term. Yeah it was man to okay.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, remember your stats from that night, man, you know my.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Stats in New York was good. I have plenty plenty two.
I think that game probably twenty and fifteen game.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, a very night period.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So but you know, every night, every home game New
York turned up. It's start study, you know what I mean?
She it was like damn, damn, you know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
How has it been? Because you you have a you
have a personality. I think a lot of people know that.
You know, obviously your personality is big as big as
your game. But how has it been transitioned into the pod?
Like doing podcasts with you and Ta, y'all get to
sit around, talk shit, talk, tell some stories and from
two players who were very very aggressive on the court
(27:18):
now get to sit down and talk to guys that
you played against, relive some of the battles and some
of the moments.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You add, how has podcasting been for y'all?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Man? It's been good, man, it been good. Just like
getting a lot of feedback from from our peers, from
you know, from Matt and from stack Jack, you know, guys.
Then we talked to Gil and d Mons and the
guys is in the space, which I think every one
of the guys should be in the space. From Draymond Draymond,
like Draymond Barron, all them guys, them guys in motivation.
(27:47):
So for us we rough around the edges, you know
what I mean, Like it ain't no, we ain't give
it to you personally, give it to you raw. You
feel me like stuff like it ain't gonna be No.
We're given giving hoonies they love showing love, but we're
gonna talk about some real shit too. But it ain't
never to get on there. And I ain't never try to,
you know, talk down on nobody. Are we just giving
(28:09):
giving brothers Day flowers? You know what I'm saying? Just
swing love. You know, out the mud, Everybody out the
mud somewhere somehow, you know what I mean, Right, You know,
everybody got a story, you know what I mean. And
it ain't got to be coming up in power. You
could be the richest, you could be whatever, but it's
still out there. You still got out the mud experience
somewhere somehow your life, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
What I mean, Who's been your favorite guests so far, man.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know what, we have some good guests, Man, have
some good guess it ain't it just right now. It
ain't no favor for me because all of them been good.
Like we just had Sashage Volages. You know, he's a champion.
You know, he never did a pod so that was
great sitting talking to him. You know, he comes from
a different country where awards that he had to you know, war,
they was dropping bombs and like real out the mudshit.
(28:57):
So it's like, wow, you know what I mean here
what these guys been through with talking to Big Spain
Arkansos just his experience and it's been great man, uh
Kadi d Rose, all them guys showing us love man,
and we showing love back to the real ones man.
And it's been great, bro for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Who out of everyone you play with, would you say
I had the worst music taste in the locker room ever?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Who was playing that bullshit?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Who was playing that bulls shit?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
How many times you have to unplug the speaker?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh? I had to unplugged the speaker a lot of
times actually playing this boys shit? Yeah you know who? Uh?
Now t A plays some good music? Uh A lot
of them guys, probably she Wallace. He's kind of playing
some boys. Shit. You know, I'm I'm listening. I'm bumping forty.
(29:57):
He talking about man's don't put on forty put some beans,
but I listen to beans.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, he's you know, he's gonna keep it Philly. He
gonna keep it Philly.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You know, she's gonna keep it straight, Philly easy, you
know what I mean. I'm from the West, so I'll
keep it a little everything.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Nah, but uh, he's always played music. I think for
us we love music, man, and I think the artists
they want to they used to play basketball. So it's
like a perfect you know, man.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's always it's old rappers and ball players.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, so it's it's crazy like that. You know that.
You know if you each artist probably then't play ball.
Blag money bag. He thinks he got to jump ship.
Tell him he ain't. He ain't good, you know what
I mean. So I just think all these guys, all
the all these guys love music, man, all the NBA players,
you know, that's all we you see, we got our
(30:47):
listen to warming up with our headphones on now, and
it's just it fits good with us. Man, with with
with athletes, you know what I mean? And vice versa.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Who's shoying to wrap in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Mike Colly? Mike Cony used to rap a little bit work.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I can't Mike Colly rap.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
He just said he say a few little bars. You know,
he say a little J Cole He got say a
little J Cole bars.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Okay, okay, all right, I thought Mike so laid back
and quiet.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Man. Yeah, yeah, he laid back quiet. So you get
to Norway? Who else? A lot of guys rap? Man? Uh,
we go going to be rappers or or any game. Yeah,
I can't do no rapping though.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
You ain't doing no rapping.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I ain't doing no rap. I might. I might get
in get in the booth though, and drop a sixteen
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, how has it been?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
On?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
First all?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm meant to but at the top, I meant to
gratulate you. Your daughter, Uh, congratulations, she's at Louisville now.
She was also McDonald's All American and I saw you posted, uh,
your McDonald's All American card and her McDonald's All American card.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
How was that for you just as a as a father?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
How crazy was that moment to really like see that happen.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
H then you know what it gave me butterflies, man,
just being able to relive it again and see my
daughter do it better than me. You know, wanted my
kids to be better than me and see her worth
ethic in the way she loves playing. And it meant
so much more to me to see my baby in
a situation that like, and seeing her playing the McDonald's
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All American Game, and it really gives you flashbacks, like, damn,
that was me. You know, I remember my game was
in Boston. You know their ear and you know they're
they're doing the same thing, going to see the sights
and you know, I mc donald houses or whatever they're doing,
they're doing for the itinerary, and it just brought black flashback.
So man, it's been great. Man. My daughter she works hard.
(32:42):
I'm proud of her. Man, it's a big summer for it.
So she'd be a sophomore next year, and we were working,
were working.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I know you got in the gym. I know you
got in the gym.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Work, work, work.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I've heard like Blake Griffin talk about his pops was
his coach all throughout his entire life.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Did you coach her through high school or just trained?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
How did you balance that between me and her dad
and then training her to be at the level that
she's at now?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Well, you know what, It's so funny. I'm near, she
like dad, So I was like, come on, do this.
She's like okay. But then I get a trainer and
she's like okay, So I'm near. I just let the
trainer do the work and then I rebound short some things,
you know what I mean. And so you know, with
them kids, man, I don't know they want to they
work hard for the next person. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
They don't. She don't work, she don't. She just don't.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, your dad because your dad. First, she don't know
z She don't know z Bo. She don't know the
killer on the court. She know dad, man, So she
ain't listening to to dad. But if she goes turn
that YouTube on and look at look at some Zach
random highlights, she gonna know she she needs to be
listening to that training end that train ain't do it
at that level.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
He ain't do it at that level.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I try to tell her, man, all right, we we.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
We scoured through some of the rappers that mentioned your
name in their bars throughout the throughout the years of
of of you playing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
So we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm gonna try my best to give you the same
cadence in the same flow, but I'm gonna recite some
of these lyrics, and I want you to try to
guess who the artist is that uh that wrote these bars.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Maul's gonna have to take most of this segment because
I can't say a lot of this.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Some words that Rory just can't say, z bo. He can't,
he can't, he can't say the word.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
All right, first one, uh ball and four I went
to Memphis, Nigga, I'm Zach Randolph. As soon as you
change the price, I ain't think twice nigga, I ran off.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Uh estz that's correct s t wrong. Yeah, we gotta
we have to stop with this trend to run it
off on the plug. Yeah, that's just it can't be. Yeah,
that's a dangerous that's a dangerous energy to be.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Putting out there. We're gonna do another one. He gonna
get this one on a private jet about to take off.
I ain't really with the back and forth talk fifty
in the glock. Zach Randolph man money bags, money bag,
yo prayers. All right, let's see, let me try another one.
It was three digits in the clip until his man's
ran off. Dumb decision gave him half. Zach Randolph.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Three clips. Uh, it's a tough one.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's baby tron cat dog.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Shot to baby trump Man. Yeah, I think my son
might have told me by him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, it's trunk.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Let me see. Let me give you one more, the
last one, the last one.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All right, living my best life, shorty, you can't never
get attached. Went to the plug, got a couple of p's,
then I ran off like Zach.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Boy rowdy Roddy Rich Rich, shouting boy, Roddy Rich.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Everyone did the runaway scheme, Zach zachtly listen so you
hear when these niggas got your name out this, you
might as well.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Go with this one.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Which one is that?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
One? Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
One more?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Water Wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball in
the jungle. I'm a grizzy like I'm Zach Randolph, No
doubt one. I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Only time. Water Wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball.
In the jungle. I'm a grizzy like I'm Zach Randolph.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Damn, I don't know that one is that's Drake Drake
the Rulers rake Yo Drake Yo yo yo.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
How was that?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
How was that the first time you heard your name
in a rap?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like? How?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
How how long did you play that song? How many
times you brought that verse back the first time you
heard it?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
And who was the artist? Who was the first artist
you heard put your name in the bar?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
You know what? Then the little homies out of I'm front,
you know what I mean. Little Germ one of the
first guys you know what I mean, they rap, He
started rapping. You know, I got in the league. He
put put my and some songs. So really, people from
where I'm from, you know what I mean? And like
you said, like the ariwdy Riches, the money bag said, Yo, Gottis.
(37:07):
You know what I mean? That's my man. So a
lot of guys been showing me love man on these
uh put me in these verses. I like that, you
know what I mean. I got a little young brother
out here name pay So he hard too, you know
he gotta. He got a song called Zach Randolph. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
So, wait, where's where's paysco from?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
A A f N A f N pays So he
got a song called Zach Randolph.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Okay, okay, you gotta check it out.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
So af n he he's been making noise.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So is that the same So that was on Kendrick's
album or a different pay.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't know, a f N pay so cold? Yeah
take him out? He hard but yeah. So it's it's
a lot of guys that be showing me some love
in the uh in the music, man. You know, they
recognized a real one. Man. I recognized them too, you
know what I'm saying. So it's all love.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Show who was the first rapper that you met once
you got to the league and they knew who you were?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
First rapper. I'm mad they got to it, man, he
got I've been doing it a long time, man. You
know all them guys, Uh probably luded Chris when I
was seventeen eight. When I was eighteen, they had came
to Portland working to do a show. Oh wow, yeah,
(38:35):
this's before the season, my rookie season. And I came
and I met his little brother, Fate, little Fate Rapp.
They're like, man, we we fuck with you, z bow Man.
And you know I had gave him my jersey's when
I was worrying number seven. I had just got drafted.
I had number seven. I gave gave him my jersey
gouse at the show, They're like, man, we're a big four.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
He got a number seven Zach Randolph Blazers.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, when I first got drafted, they ended up changing,
but it was seven, so I think we had I
think Greg Anthony had got traded. They hear or somebody
had their fifty, probably Greg Anthony, Greg Anthony or Brian
uh I forgot last name, but he was a big
So then that's when I got that fifty back.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, zebo.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You ever thought about getting into coaching, like on a
real level, like at the league level.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You know, I always think about it, and the guys
always tell me I should, just to you know, get
that knowledge I got helped the bigs in it in
my game and getting knowledge of the game that I
know that to help help. So I'll be thinking about it,
I really do. But you know, I know the coaching
is a lot I enjoyed. You know, my kids, my
daughter she got games at college. I like going to
(39:43):
her games. Uh. You know, my son got an eleven
year old and fifteen year old daughter. Seven. They be busy,
so like I like to be, you know, go watch
them play and joyce like coaching. I don't know, but
I thought about it, but I don't know, maybe you
know what I mean, in the future, but not right now.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yes, we just saw last what maybe maybe two weeks
ago now the Nuggets fired coach Malone out of it
would seem like nowhere to us, Like we didn't have no,
no knowledge of that as somebody that you know obviously
played at the highest level. How how surprising were you
of the news of of them firing a coach that
(40:23):
I just come fresh off a championship two years ago
and you know his team is still one of the
best teams in the league. How surprised were you at
that at the firing.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I definitely was surprised. Coach Malone is a great coach.
You know, I don't know what you know, what was
going on in term or you know what they got
from the outside looking in the coaches players respect and
even on that Coach Malone was a loyal coach. You know,
he led different Nuggets and he did whatever he could
excuse me too for their team to be successful. And
(40:54):
he gave his heart and he gave it all. So
at the end of the day, you know, coaches just
coaches get fired, players get traded, you know what I mean.
So it all comes hand in hand. But I could
take one thing about coach Malone's great coach, great guy,
and uh, he's gonna go to war for you. He's
gonna go back for his players.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Now you obviously, I think it's safe to say this.
They had to run that biokics before they did that. Like,
I don't think they can make that move without consulting.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Because to get tricky. Man should get tricky when it
comes to that. You know, these guys, these owners, they
don't you know, some of them do. Some of them don't,
you know what I mean. So I don't know and
get tricky because you got some owners you know, they
like ship this is our team. We run it, you know,
like they don't tell players when they getting traded and
trade you. So it's kind of like hand in hand.
(41:47):
So I don't know if they tell Yoka Chad, you know,
they could have.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think he came out and said that they you know,
they they spoke to him, though. I guess right before
they was about to fire him, they told him why
they were doing it, but he said, basically, he had
no he had no calling it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I don't know if I believe that.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I believe Jokich is the is, He's the he is
the franchise, and I think that they have to run
everything through him. I'm not saying it was a personal
thing between Yo kitchen coach. I'm not gonna go that route,
but I do think that he had to he had
to know something. I think that it was more surprising
for Luca to get traded this was for coach Malone
(42:27):
to get fired from dev I think the Luca trade
was absolutely I don't I think nobody, you know, I
don't think Luca didn't even know about that, But I
think that I think that I think that Jokis definitely
knew about coach Malone being let go before they obviously
did it. What did you think about the uh, the
Luca trade?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, it was surprising when I heard it, but
I'm like, you know, what the hell? You know what
I mean, It's just like everybody else was and uh,
you know, Coach Nico, that's my man. Too, you know
what I mean. Like I said, De Coosina vision too.
You know what I mean that you know he's saw
and the owners or whoever above him saw and they
(43:06):
went with the move. Like I said, this just the NBA. Man,
anything can happen, you know what I mean. Shit, you know,
some of the best go to different teams. So, like
I said, it was God's playing. Like I said, this
is probably what God wanted for Luca and it's working
out the best. Now. Mm.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Being from Indiana, how do you feel about Freddy Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Man, I fuck with Freddy Fredi the Donamer you know
what I mean. Freddy got a great talent. You know,
he putting on for the Indiana, putting on for g
I you know what I mean. So you know, no respect,
you know when you got the Indiana guy coming out
and hard like he is, you know what I mean.
So I fuck with Freddy.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Have you y'all connected before?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:41):
For sure? Hell yeah. I'm surprised were trying to do
some shit together, you know what I mean, with some
of the artists and him, because you know he hard,
you know what I mean, and I like his music.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I'm surprised this knows Zacharando for us from Freddy, I
think he's just due up for.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Absolute led fred Man, Yeah, pop my thing, get in
this video, pop.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
My comar before we get out of here. Top five
Memphis rappers of all time.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I ain't got no order because it's so much talent,
so much man from Project Path to money bag Yold
to three six Months, The Young Dog to Uh eight Ball,
m J G. Man, Myphs got so much talent. I mean,
I keep going, Yo, gottis to you know what I mean,
(44:33):
to player fly like it's so many artists, gangster black,
you know what I mean, Like Little White, Yeah, so many.
You know, Memphis got so much talent.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
You know they get the credit they deserve Memphis, But
we do what we don't.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Because they know what it is. You knowe what I'm saying.
They know, they don't want to say it, but everybody
knows it, you know what I mean. That's why you
got all the big time labels and Memphis signing all
these artists, all these producers, every label they in Memphis.
They got guys on the ground, Yeah, going around looking
for talent. You know what I mean. We need to
keep all the talent in house. You know what I mean.
(45:11):
I ain't just saying to endless to in the house
to the people that's got that going on where they
can put these artists out. So because they in the city, man,
they in the city, they work. They trying to take
everybody out the city, man, which I don't blame them
because it's business. And these kids and men and women
in Memphis are talented, you know what I mean, not
(45:32):
just on the musical side, on them creative creative top
side too. You know, let's not forget about the creative side,
you know what I mean, Because so city got it
going on. It's got a bad negative Like people be
scared of Memphis, but Memphis is a blue blue collar town,
blue collar hardworking people like myself, you know, just out
(45:53):
the mud. Is nothing given easy.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
Being a music executiveself.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Can you speak to what Yo Gotti is built with
seeing because I feel like he doesn't get brought up
in the conversations when you're talking cash money, Rockefeller death row,
Like Yo Gotti has really built an empire with CMG man.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Man, hats off kudos to my bro Yo Gotti. Man.
Not only that I've seen got he grind like I've
always was a fan of got his music and just
to see him being being able to be around him
and see him grow to where he's at now. He
being grinding this ship. Ain't this shit wan't easy? Got
you out the Moud? He really got the Moud like
this shit he ripping about like he ain't. He ain't
(46:34):
telling them lies and guys respected. You know, he's a businessman.
He's a business minded person and he all he does
is work, work, work, you know what I mean. God,
he is a workaholic, and you got to work to
what you want to do. And God is a prime
example of being in this game, taking steps of working
to where he gets. And I'm proud of you. Man.
(46:54):
He done created Henne, created something for his family and
a pass on and she building for sure legendary label already.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
All right, ze Bo, Well, we appreciate you man. It's
good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I gotta I gotta link with you next time I'm
out there on the West coast.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
We gotta hang out man, and we love what you
and Tony Allen is doing. Continue to do what you're
doing without the mud and definitely wanted me and Ror.
We gotta come by and.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Sit on the.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Definite definitely gonna make it happen. Man, it was good
talking to you. Appreciate you, Bro, Appreciate you
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