June 26, 2025 • 49 mins
On this episode of Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball, the guys are joined by Chris Gotti and Safaree. Rory and Mal get into the making of their movie with Lance Stephenson "Ballin'", and the drama surrounding Irv Gotti's Summer Jam tribute #volume
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Alright, Rory, we are back with a new episode of
Don't Know Ball. This is actually a special, yes, special
episode of Don't Know Ball. Today we are joined by
two guys who are doing some really really dope things
in the independent movie space, one of them being the
legendary O G absolutely out of New York City and
(01:05):
one of them being the wildest niggas ever out of
New York.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I thought I was the legendary o g.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A right, definitely legend But we get to We're joined
by Chris Gotti and so far to talk about the
new movie Balling available now on to be how y'all feeling, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, thank you for having us number one. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I came into that I wasn't expecting. I knew god
he was coming out. Well, I didn't know so far
was coming until I got down. That was the best
surprise so far as I was, like, I want before
I say, Safari, who opened the door?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
See my got so far as.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Trying to surprise you with Lance too. Yeah, but he's
work as three. You know, he's over there with after
that one one.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
C Fish, the cunttwe him and the White But that's
part of the game though.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That he's busy working.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But shout out to land with him sometimes. So you
know how you're feeling, man, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And everything's great?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Man, have I've you know, first time for you know
this first for everything and here we have a first
number one movie and on tube right now for new
black films and uh balling, you know, shout out rich
rich Walker. He's the one who wrote the script and
is my partner as well. But we got it rich Black,
I said, rich Walker.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Rich Walker credit said business. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
We talk so much music on the spot.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think our fan base is probably more music driven
than they are film driven.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, we have a soundtrack for this, and I
want to talk about it because the soundtrack came from
the spirit of the essence of us filming and the
energy that was on the set with all the people
in Lance. I took him into the big studio for
the first time. He's never been in a big studios
till I brought him in and we went to Circle
House out Miami. We filmed out there, and Lance is
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a real on the fire artist. I don't know if
people understand that the dude is real, Like I was
going to see what he's about, you know, just to
see his chops inside.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Of the studio.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
What do you think going in?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I had no opinion.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I deal with a lot of rappers that are basketball
players or basketball players that want to rap whatever you
want doing. I mean Baron David, shout out Baron. I
did hundreds of records with Baron. He's another free stylist.
Like if he took his series, he could really rap,
like I know the difference from someone that's fake and
not like these dudes have real rapping capability.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And he went in there with all ideas he's singing.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I called him the black Drake, he's singing and rapping
Drake is yeah, no black.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Day, he really had those that capabilly coming up with
hooks and rhythms and melodies. That part is the hardest
part to anyone could just rap, but to come up
to make songs.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
He could make songs. To me, that there's a difference.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
And I felt if people really listen to what he's
singing in the songs itself, it would have real lady like.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, look we challenged I challenged it.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We see what you just said. Cool pick a rapper
and put his songs up and you understand. That's how
strong I stand on it, Like I'm cool with that,
Like he's really rap.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, our seven don't know ball. For our pod, we
usually talk to athletes that are rappers, like we had
pac Man on to talk about his music. Yes, like
you know, that's kind of been a lot of the
themes so but it's.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Always went hand in hand after rap hip hop from
from the same neighborhoods as all that.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
I ain't gonna lie that this ship is this ship
is fire. The soundtrack is like the song Like when
I was hearing him, I was like, I was like,
damn sh a nigga was telling me come to the studio.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I never went.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
One night he was at the Vibe Scars to show
you can go so talk to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Us about ball and how did it come? Like, how
did it come to fruition? How did this started? I
know obviously started an idea, who sat down? Who thought
about it?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Again?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I give all the credit to Rich Rich Blackwalker, my partner.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
He had this script for a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
He had different casts, and he kept pitching it to me,
telling me, let's do this movelest.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm like, I'm busy.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
You know, Timing for any business is the number one
reason you you're successful. Absolutely the right time and it
was the right time, and I said, listen. I called
him up. I said, let's do it. I got the budget,
let's put it together. He sent me where he thought
the budget was going to be. I greenlited right away,
but I said the money, I said, I said right away.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The cast is wrong though.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
If I'm going to do it, he had all no
names again not saying like we have all these big stars,
but I used influencer based to make the movie. He
had just people that don't even they have acting chops
so prior, like to b type movies that they're in,
but no one knows them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
What good is that?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
So what came first?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Was it the script and the idea or you had
a deal in place already then.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
The idea was absolutely first. I read the script, said
let's do it. I liked it.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's a twist. I don't know if you know Alfred Hitchcock.
I'm going back. I'm dating myself.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
There's a movie he made called dial m for Murder
with that plot twist. All we did was take that
same concept of the movie and put it to urban,
to put it to black, to our culture.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's what we did. So it was really a dial
in for murder.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Balling is dialand for murder, but with all plot twist
for our culture today.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
When you wanted to switch up the cast, did you
have people like Safarian Lance already?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Mind? Or yes? Right away?
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Was that right away first and foremost. I'm gonna say
Safari he's gonna speak in a second, but Lance right
away is balling. I need a basketball player. Yeah, I
was running through a bunch of names. You know, Lance
is like my nephew, Like you know, right away, I
was like, do you want to act?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I was with him.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
We're doing Coney Island, The Park and Cony Island. You
want to act? He said, Hell yeah, And that's I
have a formula. Like for these newbies actors, if they
don't have that passion and commitment, I don't want them.
I don't care who they are, how many follows they got,
I don't care. It's not going to be believable on
the screen he got.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
He's so much charisma too, Like I feel like you.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Know you really everyone that the cast I know Lance
like I know him not as the basketball player, I
know Lance the person. Like if you don't get a
chance to be around him, I'm sure Safari never knew
he was, like the way he is just totally opposite,
like such a good dude, fun loving, laughing, joking, making
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everyone laughing, Joe generous with everybody. I mean, takes care
of it, like everything. If he could do it, he
does it. It's he's just a person that off camera
it was just a pleasure to be around and his
commitment to being as good as he can be. That's
(08:11):
part of why he made it to the league. Yeah,
you know, it's that work ethic that he had. He
put it right into music, and he put it right
in and acting. It was amazing to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now we're shooting a movie and and and you know,
putting it to tow B versus other platforms.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
What are some of the the pros and cons of it?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What are some of the experiences that you know, independent
filmmakers can kind of expect when they're writing and producing
and directing these films with tubing them to to be.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
One of the again, you have to go through an aggregator.
That is a very hard process. That means you're giving
up equity to your film to this aggregating company for nothing,
just because they could get it onto I didn't know that.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, that's a problem. It's business. I'm a business dude.
Like that's one of the anament. It's like a management.
It's like a management broken for a movie.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Basically like let's le' use music, okay, Disctroky, United Masters.
They all have a fee you have to pay to
get your on all the DSPs. I have a distribution
Comical Adventure Music. I take a percentage to get you
on all the DSPs and including what's uh, you know,
all those platforms. I'm on every platform. So at the
end of the day, it's part of the cost of
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doing business. I get it for now, and unless you
could do it directly yourself and they don't accept it
from them companies directly. Now, if you wait directly, that
means they bought it from you, okay, and it'll be you.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You could basically.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
License it to them for X amount of time two years,
three years, and that's how much money they'll pay you.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Gosh, it's business.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's simple. It's not hard. It's very simple. If you're
inside of this, you to understand it clearly. But we
had to go through an aggregator. They didn't take us.
I tried to shop it directly. So the pros and
cons or the cons.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Let's say.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
We found out very quickly that to be has a
tendency of releasing your movie without letting you know. Your
movies has to go through quality control, right, so you
got to follow the system quality control meeting. They got
to see what kind of sex is in it, you
know what I'm saying, ship.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Like that specifically, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know what I mean, because that changes the Our
rating was a mature audience, so it's a good rating.
I didn't want to make it r and I didn't
want to go further than that because I own it
and if I, well we own it, me and my partners,
we own it, and I don't want to go I
want to still have the opportunity to put it on
the bigger platforms and not just.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
You need to let them see like one of the one.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You want to see it now, crazy scenes where we
was like, yo, bro, it was day one for me.
It was my first day. Imagine that this is what
I walk into and I tell you it's it's pawn,
Like there's no way I thought it was really going on.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
So we're just gonna.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I'm like, oh, Rich, what the fuck?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
This isn't in the script this is Lance's first day acting,
first day, Like imagine you sitting there, it's your first time,
like in the first scene in the movie, because you
know we're not shooting it in order, and.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He's like, I gotta do this and there's cameras and
everybody in the lights and then it's like action.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So Lance got to get right to it like that's well,
it wasn't Lance.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It was another scene. It was Rebecca other stars. She's
the detective on the case. You know, if I said
the stars, you have Lance Safari, Trey, Trey Change, shout
out trade. You know, his son just had that old
him and his son was in a tornado in the
house and he's in I c U and getting better.
So God bless you. And Rebecca. That's the five leads
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in our movie. And Rebecca big following two million plus
followers on a gram and everything. And that's the first
scene she's has a sex scene with some of her
boyfriend in the movie.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Intensive is that on set?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Like just that?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Well, you know, we try to protect everything, especially the
female whatever they're comfortable with. Yeah, but we have cameras
or screens watching everything, so even though they're not in
the room, they're seeing everything.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That video the setup.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Though, and when you watch it though, and then like
you're there and it's happening, the setup makes it be like,
all right, this is not real. It doesn't feel like yo,
this is awkward. It's like if you was really doing it,
and like people trying to you're going to feel like
it's a little all.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They show you, guys.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Since we're talking about I'm not sure remember day one.
It's on my worst side, but it's day one. But
at the end of the day. You know, we tried
to be I was not. I didn't try. I was
very complying with each female that had to protected all
the girls. I got five sisters. I got a thought,
I'm not playing with women. And again, but if you
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want to do it, you're an adult.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You know what I'm saying. And that's what we did.
I make sure you know our lead. She's a Nebie,
She's a Brenda Paulino. You know, shout out Brenda. She
just had another baby too. But her scenes she pulled.
She was so nervous and I said, Brenda, you get
in the shower. I can't have you in the shower
with the bra it's not real, right. And any sex
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scenes we did very tasteful, like again classic, very clean
and classy, like this movie opens with you and her
class at the end of the day, very clean, classy,
you know, And we made her relaxed and she was
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able to pull it off. But it was a very
big deal because if you ever go on to be
most of these two be movies a soft pawn.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It is.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
You don't see people, you don't see that soft punk.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, you know, that's what would you be more uncomfortable
with on a set, being vulnerable on camera or having
sex on camera? Having sex on I'm thinking you're never
vulnerable though, I'm always like.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Crying having sex on you deal with Lane because he
was like, looky, yeahs you shared your feelings.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Would be terrified.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Having sex on cameras. Wow, Like you look up and
it's just like this, like you're just sitting and wrestling.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That was the most awkward.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Shit, That's what I'm saying, Like, what the fuck? That's
how about that cut? You got to do it to
get it again? Yeah, wasn't your expression wasn't You don't
look like you're enjoying.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That really did happen. It happened multiple times, Like it
was like you think I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Good turn regular. That was cool.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It's like done, Like you know what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
When Lance started shooting, he pulled me to the side
and I told him something. I said, Lance, I'll never
let you do a wax scene if you don't deliver.
I'm going to make sure you know to get it right.
So every shot he's like, and I'm filming it like
on my phone and pull him to the side and say, look,
you good like he was. You know, that was the
apprehension in the beginning. As the movie went on, he
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was way more comfortably understood what acting's really about, the
little nuances that you have to have.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
To keep the scenes.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And if we was to watch the movie right now,
I could show you this is day one, like you
could see the difference. It's visible how much he progressed
in seventeen days of shooting.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So before we got on camera and we were talking
about the mishaps business on the business end of the movie, Yeah, released,
you didn't know it was out yet.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, they released our movie without telling us, which was
obscene because I'm like, if you're our partner. They again,
Tooby takes fifty five percent of every dollar off the muscle.
That's a real rape and pillage. You talk about music business, call,
I ain't about it. No fifty five percent, bro, every
(16:06):
movie you see they're taking fifty five percent.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Now, so fifty five percent off funding the full They
didn't fund nothing, fund Hell no, if.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
They worse than this is That's what I'm trying to
tell you. No one speaks about it. That's why I
wanted to speak.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
About distribution, licensing fees. I take fifty five percent off.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Every dollar, Yes, off the muscle, and you made that
film in the same you're getting forty five cents off
of every dollar.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So now when you go through the aggregator that they
force you to go through, typically eighty twenty your way,
So it's another twenty cents that's coming out for the aggregator. Now,
mind you, I have the friends, so we got a
better deal.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
But still they're getting a piece of that forty five
cents for being able to allowing me to put the
movie out. And we'll be on other networks. We're going
to be on Peacock, We're gonna be on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So but the reality is Tooby still is the number
one place to make the money for black film. That's
just the facts.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
So even though I go on these other bigger platforms,
Amazon Prime, my audience is not.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Over there watching it. They're on to be watching it.
That's the reality.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Now, I'm gonna take every penny I get from every
plight place. You know, Dame, I'm coming America New take it.
Oh man, my fault take it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
You know what I'm saying. All good? You know, Nikki,
I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You know, Vicky, she has a platform called n g TV,
which is next Generation. She owns it all, daming her
are the absolute places we should be. Yeah, but we
have to build their audience. They don't have enough people
on their platform, you know, to get a lot of eyeballs.
But that's what we should be pushing because then we
could get the right deals. When Dame sits there and
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goes on these rants, I get it, I overstand it.
The raping pillage is real and that's just the facts.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Actually, that's actually more comparable to the podcast word. I
feel like because we talk a lot with other podcasts
about YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
YouTube.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
YouTube is not a secret. Isn't the most fair splits?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
What is it? What is it on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It depends it's there's not like one strict formula no
matter what.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It depends who you are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, things things shift a bit, but no matter what,
it's not the fairest thing of all.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
But it's where the community is.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So it's like, people like, why don't you take your
ship off YouTube because forit p I'm like, no, we're
making more money based off the community that YouTube has
or what we can leverage, and that's why they do it.
So yeah, and that's why yeah, I get why YouTube
is like, now you're only getting this much though we
have the community, we want to upload your video that easily,
we're going to take most of the fucking profit.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And that's the movie. So that's really the downside for
tub man. They don't pay. If they do pay, like
you was asking, they'll pay.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
They'll put up money for movies, but then it go
they own controlling for X amount of time.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's not for life.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You just cut the length of time you want or
you know, that's based on how much they'll give you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And then they'll be what they.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Call it to be original and marketing promoted through their platform,
which is incredible. So that's why I said for independent
black film, we are number one right now for the
first two weeks. Because I'm not talking about two the originals.
I'm talking about guys that just get their movies, you
know what I'm saying. That's the difference. And we are
number one for that and we over three million streams
and counting in less than two weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So you mentioned CPMs as well, off, Mike, how does
that work within Okay, that's in our world.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
See, and again this is the con they don't have
a form, and they tell you when you move up
to the next tier of CPM, they start you on
their low form basically a million dollars. A million reviews
is about seven thousand bucks basically, and.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
For those don't CPM is dow loads per thousand clicks.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah, I'm just giving you the manute because we have
about six commercials inside of our hour and twenty minute film, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And that's definitely more than six commercials. No six. If
they add more, that's because we're doing well. Brother.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Oh yeah, all right, I'm because I'm watching it. That
is not six commercials.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The more commercials that we put in there, the better
at this moment. But they should raise us up our CPM,
and they didn't give me the formula when that happens,
So that's to me a negative. I like transparency just
to put me in a fight. Let me know what
I'm fighting, and that's it. Whoever I'm fighting, let's go,
and that's it. I know what I'm dealing with. I
tell independent artists the same thing. Contracts not forever. I
have no contract with them, so I could take my
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movie put it anywhere. But the reality is my audience
is there. That's where I'm going to get the biggest
bang for our buck even with the rape and pillage.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
How about that? Yeah? I feel how about that?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Community is better than perception. As far as if this
went on Netflix, it's probably a cooler press release, like, look,
we're on Netflix type shit, But is that really the
best move based off the community you're trying to see?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Listen, Netflix came through our premier, Amazon Primes at a
premier that Netflix was talking to me about taking on
the film.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
They this is exactly what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Why they just started a black division for Netflix? Why
are they doing that? Because they see what Toobi's doing
right and the money they're generating. So they said, we
need to started a black division for these films, and
they said.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
This would be perfect.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So you know, we're in negotiation now, and if they
take it, guess what, it'll have to come down on
everywhere else and be lived only on things. But I
already made my money, right, it's no longer I got
to see how much streams I get. I would have
made money where I'm a profitable movie for X amount
of years and when it comes down, I could take
it and then put it back out on every platform.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Why do we think hip hop hasn't been leaning in
to the two B model the way you know your
brother did with Rock Feller films. If this system existed,
then we'd be on Paper Soldiers thirteen by now. I
think that meaning because they're being made for cheap and
they're profitable. Absolutely, and anyone can act in it the
same way Paper Soldiers.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We didn't think Beans was the greatest actor ever. It
was just great to watch Beans act like.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I have his tea queued up.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Oh my day one, this way get on the big screen.
It's not in the movie, so you know when I
see it.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
When I seen this, I stopped production.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I pulled my over.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I pulled my over and say, no, this is not
what I'm doing here. Yo. You know what I'm saying.
This is not production. Yes, everybody stop duction. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I wasn't filming that day. I showed up, but when
he showed me this, I said, let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Oh yeah that's and this was just the beginning. They
had more scenes to go, and.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
She what's what was the Chloe Balley movie.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Swarm Swarm which they marketed the whole entire movie off
Chloe Bailly backshots. Yes, I saw that with the right
camera angle would still be tasteful. Like that wasn't as
crazy as I thought you was.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Okay, Yeah, the.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Only thing you don't see in this is penetration. But
that's what that's what I walked in. And when you
first walked in, who likes I'm like, wait a minute,
this is real magic. This is real movie magic going
on here. If he's not, there's so many scenes, and
(23:12):
there's a lot of scenes. We had to be edit
the scenes because I said, yo, you you horny basket.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I said, you gotta tony down. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
When I got the script, I said, bro, I want
ten sex scenes.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yes, he just wanted the old deal.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
In this conversation ball and it started to taking on
a whole different meaning.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Now I heard a basketball.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is my coach and shout out continuo shut off the
cat Cat came in and killed it.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
He's Lancey's coach in the movie. Yeah, shout out cat.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So far you thought about because obviously you're you're a writer,
you thought about getting into that world writing scripts in
the film.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, I thought about it. I just didn't do it.
But I feel like that's that would be so easy
for me is that, because like the ship that I
think of is just pretty just weird, funny, psychotic, and
it just would be ill shit to just say a
cool write this down. And I did it with something
(24:22):
and I just saying, I just sain' like make it
a movie. But I was with this guy and this
girl and I just was talking and I was like, yo,
just write down everything I'm talking about. And they did it,
and then they made like a script out of it
and it's something called Snatched, and it's like a kind
of kidnapping ransom kind of movie with like a crazy twist.
(24:44):
And it just was all based off of me talking.
So if I could talk and somebody else write down
what I'm talking about, and it happened because me and myself,
I can't sit there and like I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Can't about to say your front.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I just found out about chat GBT a month ago.
When did it?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How did you just find out about I've heard about.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It, but I never knew it, like cave what it was.
So then.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
My gym trainer was talking about He's like, man, this
chat GBTT got us all losing our jobs. I was
like how, And then he explained it to me. I
said word. Then I started using it for the training ship.
I'm like, oh, I ain't paying this nigga no more.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
One of our co hosts and marriage had a trainer
before she did a chat GBT ship lost eight pounds
in like a week.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yo, I just found out. I'm mad. I just found
out about it. Though I could tell you how to.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Like like clear up a lie and and and make
sure sound believable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
To get out of how to get out of this
too deep in that Like I'll use it for like
admin work stuff. But I know people that got rid
of the therapist And now I'm like, yo, is that
is that your like significant other?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Now?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Like they talked to them on a whole.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's always set up. It's set up to be a therapist.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
My partner Denio told me years ago that everyone is
going to get assigned an avatar, and I believe it
now once I've seen chat GPT. You're going to get
an avatar that you talk to. It's going to control
everything you do and take care of everything you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
So anything you want to do.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
If you have psychology problems and issues, just talk to it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Just create more more and controls crazy.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
If GPT you could do something that like where we say, hey,
where can I find or have a throat goat and
it really happened on the spot.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Want to be like, this is not how things need
to be rung.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Bro Like, that's what I'll now, But I go they said,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Like again my grandkids, I'll say, they said, we'll have
a robot as a wife.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I can see it as a wife, as a wife
significant other.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
No, and again you could still have a human being,
but you're gonna have that robot that that's you fucking
That's what they're basically saying. That's gonna be your companion
in any walk, shape, form of life.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Listen, Rocky For is one of my favorite movies. Uncle
Pauli had a robot Rocky For. I thought that was
the greatest shit ever. But I didn't think Uncle Pauly's the.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Way they we were arguing on whatever episode was, I
was trying to tell everyone that the younger kids are
having less sex.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
I could totally see they just set in their basement
and beat off.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yes, you give them a robe.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
You know when people when first they said that to me,
they said, no, one's gonna be with the robe. But
I said niggas is fucking blow up dogs. What are
you talking about? What are you saying?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
They're gonna fuck this robot. They're gonna make it robot.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I was in Vegas and seen strippers that were robots,
and for see, was that ces the technology things that
they have out that convention they had strippers that was robots.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
What's next? They don't have him? Second and fucking he's coming?
How much?
Speaker 7 (28:04):
How much.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Is no problems? Bro five?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
In my twenties there was plenty of women. I shouldn't
have fun if I knew that, let me just go home.
And this robot man may have been a safe for twenty.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
They have been a safe for twenties.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I just don't know if I'm going down that road, fellas.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I'm not kids like.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Just real hell nah man, I just the New Toby
movies on a robot.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
No, we're playing swimming. Yes, that's a fire. I look
better now doing that.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
A guy who falls in love with leaves his girl
and falls in love with a robot.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yes, I feel you seen her before the movie her. Yeah,
it's not a real robot. He's just talking to like
a woman, like over the speakers and lovely but.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
That's what's what happened. I'm just saying I understand it.
I understand it. When they told me I'm talking my
real tech guys that I was talking to them.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I'm excited it's coming. I'm excited and inspired. Are you
excited about the movie?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah? Balling now on to be that's right. Is this
thing on? Is this recording us? It was not me.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
He was already flirting with the machines. Speaking of AI,
when you guys were dominating the music business, do you
think you would have incorporated some of the AI stuff?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Would have never, would have never. He's not a tech
guy in the sense of trying to change, so I
don't believe he would have ever incorporated. It would had
to show him something phenomenal, not just recreating a voice.
So I we will say this. He was, you know early.
(30:03):
I mean, people don't know all the things he was
trying to do. That Bob Maley.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Movie of Redemption.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We talked to. His name is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Blackwell, the guy who owns all the rights to the
Malli music. We sat with him, spoke to him and
he said, I will never let this happen. That's what
he said, And we was like, but we're not telling
you where they're going to have an actor playing Bob Molly,
because that's why he said he would never do it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
We was going to use the hologram. Remember they have
the hologram for.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
All of the concerts, and we would have like an
image of Bob for the movie, but when his concerts,
it's really Bob Molly, but it's the hologram of Bob
Marley from the actual concerts to from real footage. And
he was intrigued with that. Was like, I wouldn't put
an actor's the great Bob Molly. We won't want to
(30:52):
never miss it, but we will use the actual footage.
And he was very intrigued with that, but he still
said no, and then he allowed an actor to play
Bob Maly and the movie. So it was something when
I say technologies, Erv was on that for the greats.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That are no longer here.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, to use that technology for that purpose, like a Biggie,
a Tupac Earth Love Tupac, you know, in Bob Maly.
It was those three artists that he was definitely like,
we should do something with the hologram that they have
that technology to use it. So when you think of
Ai is technology. But in what capacity are you talking
(31:31):
for AI? Because you're talking and mixing a record? Maybe yeah,
are you're talking about making a record?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Making a record?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Never? Yes?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I mean it's interesting because I'm anti AI all the way.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But if I was born twenty years after now, I
feel like some of the greatest new producers now are
more tech people than they are music people. Yes, it
may have just happened like that, just maybe the only
way you know at that point, you.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Know AI, you could I could become a producer tomorrow.
I could go to a thousand vas and tweak each
b to get it to what I like exactly how
you can still have tastes a Yes, So to me,
I've told my producers that are real producers, to you
start using AI to enhance what they're doing, to find
new sounds, new music.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You know, it's all creative. It's all about an idea.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Like we just said, with the movie, that's all It
takes that idea and it could spawn into that movie, right,
just like that same with music, that idea, that sound,
and it spawns into a record with the right artists,
and that can you know that creativeness. I watched it
all the time I watched it all the time with
my brother, like he was amazing with that. So that
(32:37):
kind of replaces him and his input in certain aspects.
And I don't know if he would do it, but
you know, I feel he if he was smart like
to do that, it wouldn't be the bad thing.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It's only going to make him better.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Speaking of your brother the Great Rest in Peace. Some
of jam is coming up, Yes, and there's a tribute
FORRV this year.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Can I talk out the pros and cons?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean I want, I want to hear about it.
I want to hear what the family has planned or obviously.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Bringing this up at a really crazy time because they
literally just got approved today.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Really, while I was in the car sitting waiting out front.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Literally my sister called me, yeah, it's on, because we
was pulling out because the way they handle it, Hot
ninety seven was doing a shitty fucking job. Really, you
can't have I have no tickets, no passes, and it's
a tribute to my brother John. Can't get it. They
told hold on, they told Joe Rule is performing, he
(33:36):
can't have but only this many people, which is like
his in the counting artists. They're not counting like his entourage.
Let's say even security is that we have security. I
never heard this before. I never even thought about it.
So there's only one reason I felt that could be
being handled like this. I don't want to talk about
(33:58):
it on air, but there's only one thing that it
could be in my opinion, that they're doing this to
him and they attributing. Then they cut it down from
a forty five minute show to twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
The fuck I'm doing with twenty five minutes, even.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
With the amount of things did fuck out of here?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So Rul yesterday said I'm not doing it. We literally
was off yesterday. Cleared it up literally at about twelve
eleven o'clock today.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
How you do a tribute to somebody without their family being.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
There exactly, I said, even ninety seven even come close
to fumbling that like they know what ever?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Na that shit is corny, man, It doesn't even matter.
It's the fact it's so corny. Me personally, I don't
even want to show up because then it's like I
condone and agreed with what's going on, and I don't.
And that's just the realness. But Rule wants me to
be there, but I'm like, fuck nigga, fuck them, I
don't care no more. Radio is irrelevant to me. It's nothing.
(34:56):
It's like, and then you're not doing nothing in any
treat you. They offered that show up, they wanted us
to do it, and then to do that to me
is like, what is that? There's got to be a
subplot that we don't know. And that's why I said
this might be one thing that might be going there.
I just don't feel like talking about on this show, right.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Respect, Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
How do you feel about the current state of deaf
jam and this universal in general?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You know, music is in trouble in my opinion, the
business of it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
They just you know, they cut a deal with AI
to give your lightness, right, so if they signed you,
you know, the reality is it's very hard to tell
an artist, especially a new artist, not to take the money.
It's just hard, man. It come from nothing. Nigga puts
a check in front of you. Dance, Nigga.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You knows to you to dance or not, but it's
very hard.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I tell everyone, if you are in that position, you
did something right to get them to offer you that.
That doesn't happen to everybody. Second party is nothing forever.
Just make sure you have an exit plan. Take the money,
figure out what you're going to do. I honor your deal.
Honor your deal.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
That's what men do.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Honor that shit, yo. Don't come in and start crying.
If you get bigger and better, change your deal, negotiate.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's business. Don't sit back and be like, I want
my masters and that's.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
It's so bullshit to me because when you signed that deal,
you didn't say that because you would have never signed it.
Don't sign that take the money and then just flip flop,
and you have to have a reason why you want
it all back.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You should see your trajectory that way, not here. Don't
expect much.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
If you've just maintained, you know, and they didn't drop you,
you was good enough not to be dropped.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's business.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Also, independent artists, like I said, I got a platform
for it. I got thousands of artists, you know, you know,
even you know United Masters. I'm for all in thee
in it artists. People say you had a label, I said,
I understand the game is different.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Oh my artists. You didn't hear not one of them
complaining because we took care of them. We gave them
the best deals they could get under what we had.
As simple as that. It's just business. It's like take it,
I don't care. Let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Hear that so far, we's sow with you man, no
more writing, man, you know honest, it's a lot of
like you were early on the writing.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
When music was fun, when music was fun.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But now there's been a boom of female mcs, female artists.
Your pen obviously is legendary. With a female artist, we
won't you know, get into that, but read all right,
but now with the way yeah, now you're a chat GBT.
So now with the way of female artists coming in,
(37:51):
you don't get the urge to be like, yo, I'm
I'm gonna get behind one of these these female season
and get some hits. Because once you're a writer, you're
always a writer. You never lose that.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, it's you know, the music ship for me right now,
it's just it's just such a circus. It's just so much.
It's just such a facade. And I don't even.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You have someone to do with that. A lot of
your a lot of your a lot of things you
wrote have have caused that that that boom.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You don't take responsibility, brother, Nah, But I'm saying like
I feel like this this new era like nothing lasts anymore.
Like like every like no matter how illen had, some
some something or someone is you could put something up,
it's gone.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
How long are we talking about it?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
If a new hot song come out three days, four
days a week sitting, then it's like the gratification ain't
even there, like how it used to be.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Like before we do.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Something, that ship is killing the whole year and crushing
somebody else while it's happening, and it's like, damn, that
ship is kind of dope.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
We got to saw that happen for an entire year.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
I need to take accountability on that too.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
We're all in the content game as far as how
many movies do we put out a month a lot,
how many apps do we have, how many options of
ship can we watch? How many music apps do we have?
How many artists can just upload shit to YouTube? Yeah,
it doesn't stay because every day when you hit refresh,
it's something, it's something new.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
You scroll, take one thumb move and you're onto something else.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
In the content era, Yeah, that's so much of it
is crazy.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
That's why now, like I'm really like in the more
of the invest in and dealing with sh that has
nothing to do with entertainment. Like I'm in the health
insurance business. Even nobody knows. I found that out in
the movie nobody knows. You can you need health insurance.
I got your hold.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
My daughter's EpiPen, so I gotta talk.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
But you in New York, right, Yeah. New York's structure
is horrible for health insurance. Absolutely, they try to work.
That's why you popped home me downtown. That's why you
ran down on me the United Healthcare joint. Yeah, and
I got a contract with United Healthcare. So when that happened,
I'm like, damn, I hope that don't affect nothing, but
it in fact, nothing goes to show that. It's like, cool,
you were here for the moment. You're going somebody who
(40:08):
take your position and that's it. But I just I
really like to make money not doing nothing. I like
to sleep as long as I want. I just want
to go to the gym, take care of my kids.
I really love the acting shitting out the movie shit Like, yeah,
I really like after seeing how this came out because
(40:28):
when we did it, I was enjoying myself, but then
seeing it come together, I was like, damn. And when
we did the premiere, that was like my first like
movie premiere or something I'm a part of. It was
a dope feeling and experience and watching the movie with
a theater full of people. And then I was like
kind of like the favorite because I'm like the I
was to escape for the woman who was being treated bad,
(40:50):
and I was like, yo, I like that.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like this role. Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
In the comedy, Yeah, you have people laughing and everything
in the movie.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
You're gonna watch it when you're gonna watch it. I'm
gonna watch it tonight, when you're gonna watch it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I would have watched it if I would have got
the link before. You guys didn't even know it was,
how know you know, honestly thought y'all were come here
to plug it and we were gonna be like, yo,
it's out on this specific date in the episode was
gonna come out with the movie.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
That's what That's what we wanted to do to.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Be from us bro.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
It was from I'm looking at my Instagram and like
the fans day, like posting ship and they're like, yo,
old Ship's a quite a good child.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
I'm like what I hit them in the I said, yo,
the movies out? I said, not hold on, I haven't on.
We typed it in. I said, oh, ships out And
it was the wrong version, which is your house?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Crazy? That there was? My name is spelled wrong? In
his name spelled name?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
How do you miss spelled Chris?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
God? How do you not spell that right?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Man?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I don't even want to tell you what? How do
you miss?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Felt that crazy? At the end of the day, I
was furious. And then you heard niggas saying cut and action.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I think to be does that on purpose. I think
they do like that because they know those those are
going viral. Maybe yeah, I think they do that type of.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
People.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
The movie that they was watching, someone who got shot
laid on the floor and he's like, is it okay yet?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Talking go viral? That clip would go viral? Movie had yeah, yeah,
like yeah, they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Ship Love and hip Hop did that with ray J's hat. Yeah,
that's viral year that lasted. So the right version is onto.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
The right version they corrected. The fast quality is everything.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I'm gonna watch it to night.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I matter didn't watch it before we got here today,
I would I would have watched the last night had
I known it was out, and watch it tonight so
we could definitely talk about this morning show. I'm looking
forward to it. Congrats on you part two and part
three already. Yes, so Fari, congrats on everything you're doing
healthcare major. Yeah, so I know you're going to If
I see another dirt bike, I already.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Know what that means. You ran the back. Yeah. I
don't even touch the bikes normal. Since you got in
the healthcare, you can't.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I'm getting rich your help.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
I feel like dad and like having the kids now,
it's like like let me now, Yeah, now, I love
my I really love my kids, you know what I'm saying.
Like at first, I was like, you know, no, I'm
just kidding.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
This nigga is crazy. I was like, I was like
at first, I was like, I don't know about these
little niggas.
Speaker 7 (43:35):
And even last night in my hotel room and I
was looking at my phone and a picture popped up
and I'm like, damn, I missed my kids right now
mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
And that's part of this game. Yeah, you have to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
That, with with acting now Asfari, I feel like there's
not enough films centered around dance hall mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
To dance move.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
We definitely spoke about that. That was one of the
scripts that they was talking about. And I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Rich my part and he's making okay, he understands could
but like no something.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
His class, but what could be cool? Someone's going to
get really to game, try to make it.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
They made it.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Oh then it came out.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Hold on, that's my first film, Chris, He's about to
talk ship.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
When I saw a game, I was like, wait.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
So the new the shots tool, it's shot. I'm in it. Okay,
thank god, big shots to Kei Mini Malia. So I'm
in that. But it's called Bendetta. It didn't come out yet.
We shot this movie like I ain't gonna lie Min's
been he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Oh yeah. And then a big part.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Of shot to us and just you know all the
movies is the scoring, which is the music that's playing
under certain stuff. And the way he's scoring this movie. Yo,
he's been in this, he's been in the studio for
like a year. It's like watching it and just getting
it right with the sounds, watching it in theaters by himself, Like,
when this comes out, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Like that movie.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
I ain't gonna I forgot to did that until you
said that because they didn't come out to you and
I shot it so long ago. But I'm excited. I
can't wait for that one to come out to That's
gonna be dope.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Well, I'm definitely watching Balling tonight to shout out the
lance his acting debut. Yeah, shout out to Chris Gotti,
the legendary.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yes, ninety seven, do better. You gotta do better. Man,
you can't. You can't. You can't. You can't mess that up. Notary,
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Don't do it, And you know, gonna haunt that stage.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
I was going out, I was going out like, whose
idea was it?
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Who was like, Yo, ninety seven said they want on Earth, okay,
job performing and do a murder inc irv Gotti. So
they brought it to us and then they don't handle
it right.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, that doesn't matter. I'm not surprised though, But you know,
I was gonna say that because we have some more
projects that again we're putting out.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
That'll be great. That's gonna be great to see too.
You know, Prince is right here. Shout out Prince. You
know prem and The Mundane Truth a documentary on prem
that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, I'm in that. And
just you from Queen's.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
I'm from uptown where you're from Queens Queen's Okay, And
then we have again night Shift.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
We did a horror film in the Strip Club. That's
the next movie that we got coming down.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
That's the horror film and film Strip Clubs, which one
of these bitches of the vampire.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I've been in Starlett's in the wrong night.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yeah, the horror when the brims walking starlets and.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
Parking lot and you can't even back out.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
Here in the way production right now for because two
because one was the first one that was about a
guy that came home from jail barber I mean and
started cooking.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And we because of two in the production right now.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
So shooting right now again, just working, trying to stay
busy in the film industry, looking into AI films coming okay,
telling you you mentioned AI that's that's going to be
the next But you know, I just wanted to keep
everything moving and just to keep pushing.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
And absolutely thank you again for having us on this platform.
Thank y'all for coming. Man, it was it's a pleasure
getting to sit here and talk to y'all.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Were looking at congra Thank you. I've been doing you'all
thing for a fact.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
We got together a while ago to dinner and it
was a fun. So it's glad we got to finally
do it.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Yeah, I still come October.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I want to do the Rule three thirty six, twenty
five anniversary podcast episode. We did it with Guru and
his brother from Black album, like just the episode dedicated
to anniversary of album.
Speaker 6 (47:48):
So I would love you to sit down in October
with us to tell y'all.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I gotta tell y'all about the time I went to
his bachelor party. Okay, oh man, be careful. That was yeah,
that was that was like everything right now.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
It was a great time.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
But I was I was like the youngest. I was
the youngest one there. I went with Jay Biggs. We
all went. I was like nineteen or twenty at the time,
and I walked in and I was just looking around,
like and then John came up to me. Gave me
about five thousand singles. He was like, you have fun, man, yeah,
and that was the greatest night of my life. I
was like, Yo, this is what these rapping niggas.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
Right me at nineteen would have put that five right
in my pocket.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
I thought about it.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
I thought I've done it.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
I do it now.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
I'm lying, I'm saying ninety thirty five and I'd be
like ya, thanks.
Speaker 7 (48:35):
I remember one time I was with the Game of
the Strip Club. He had a whole we was like
your whole time. I'm like, yo, good look, Yeah that's terrible. Man,
is terrible.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
That's Chris Gotti Safari. Thank y'all, fellas for stopping by
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Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, black independent films not stopping. Thank y'all, gentlemen, Thank
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Alright, Rory, we are back with a new episode of
Don't Know Ball. This is actually a special, yes, special
episode of Don't Know Ball. Today we are joined by
two guys who are doing some really really dope things
in the independent movie space, one of them being the
legendary O G absolutely out of New York City and
(01:05):
one of them being the wildest niggas ever out of
New York.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I thought I was the legendary o g.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A right, definitely legend But we get to We're joined
by Chris Gotti and so far to talk about the
new movie Balling available now on to be how y'all feeling, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, thank you for having us number one. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I came into that I wasn't expecting. I knew god
he was coming out. Well, I didn't know so far
was coming until I got down. That was the best
surprise so far as I was, like, I want before
I say, Safari, who opened the door?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
See my got so far as.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Trying to surprise you with Lance too. Yeah, but he's
work as three. You know, he's over there with after
that one one.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
C Fish, the cunttwe him and the White But that's
part of the game though.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That he's busy working.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But shout out to land with him sometimes. So you
know how you're feeling, man, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And everything's great?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Man, have I've you know, first time for you know
this first for everything and here we have a first
number one movie and on tube right now for new
black films and uh balling, you know, shout out rich
rich Walker. He's the one who wrote the script and
is my partner as well. But we got it rich Black,
I said, rich Walker.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Rich Walker credit said business. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
We talk so much music on the spot.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think our fan base is probably more music driven
than they are film driven.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, we have a soundtrack for this, and I
want to talk about it because the soundtrack came from
the spirit of the essence of us filming and the
energy that was on the set with all the people
in Lance. I took him into the big studio for
the first time. He's never been in a big studios
till I brought him in and we went to Circle
House out Miami. We filmed out there, and Lance is
(02:59):
a real on the fire artist. I don't know if
people understand that the dude is real, Like I was
going to see what he's about, you know, just to
see his chops inside.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Of the studio.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
What do you think going in?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I had no opinion.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I deal with a lot of rappers that are basketball
players or basketball players that want to rap whatever you
want doing. I mean Baron David, shout out Baron. I
did hundreds of records with Baron. He's another free stylist.
Like if he took his series, he could really rap,
like I know the difference from someone that's fake and
not like these dudes have real rapping capability.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And he went in there with all ideas he's singing.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I called him the black Drake, he's singing and rapping
Drake is yeah, no black.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Day, he really had those that capabilly coming up with
hooks and rhythms and melodies. That part is the hardest
part to anyone could just rap, but to come up
to make songs.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
He could make songs. To me, that there's a difference.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
And I felt if people really listen to what he's
singing in the songs itself, it would have real lady like.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, look we challenged I challenged it.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
We see what you just said. Cool pick a rapper
and put his songs up and you understand. That's how
strong I stand on it, Like I'm cool with that,
Like he's really rap.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, our seven don't know ball. For our pod, we
usually talk to athletes that are rappers, like we had
pac Man on to talk about his music. Yes, like
you know, that's kind of been a lot of the
themes so but it's.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Always went hand in hand after rap hip hop from
from the same neighborhoods as all that.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
I ain't gonna lie that this ship is this ship
is fire. The soundtrack is like the song Like when
I was hearing him, I was like, I was like,
damn sh a nigga was telling me come to the studio.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I never went.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
One night he was at the Vibe Scars to show
you can go so talk to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Us about ball and how did it come? Like, how
did it come to fruition? How did this started? I
know obviously started an idea, who sat down? Who thought
about it?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Again?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I give all the credit to Rich Rich Blackwalker, my partner.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
He had this script for a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
He had different casts, and he kept pitching it to me,
telling me, let's do this movelest.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm like, I'm busy.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
You know, Timing for any business is the number one
reason you you're successful. Absolutely the right time and it
was the right time, and I said, listen. I called
him up. I said, let's do it. I got the budget,
let's put it together. He sent me where he thought
the budget was going to be. I greenlited right away,
but I said the money, I said, I said right away.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The cast is wrong though.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
If I'm going to do it, he had all no
names again not saying like we have all these big stars,
but I used influencer based to make the movie. He
had just people that don't even they have acting chops
so prior, like to b type movies that they're in,
but no one knows them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
What good is that?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
So what came first?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Was it the script and the idea or you had
a deal in place already then.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
The idea was absolutely first. I read the script, said
let's do it. I liked it.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's a twist. I don't know if you know Alfred Hitchcock.
I'm going back. I'm dating myself.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
There's a movie he made called dial m for Murder
with that plot twist. All we did was take that
same concept of the movie and put it to urban,
to put it to black, to our culture.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's what we did. So it was really a dial
in for murder.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Balling is dialand for murder, but with all plot twist
for our culture today.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
When you wanted to switch up the cast, did you
have people like Safarian Lance already?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Mind? Or yes? Right away?
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Was that right away first and foremost. I'm gonna say
Safari he's gonna speak in a second, but Lance right
away is balling. I need a basketball player. Yeah, I
was running through a bunch of names. You know, Lance
is like my nephew, Like you know, right away, I
was like, do you want to act?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I was with him.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
We're doing Coney Island, The Park and Cony Island. You
want to act? He said, Hell yeah, And that's I
have a formula. Like for these newbies actors, if they
don't have that passion and commitment, I don't want them.
I don't care who they are, how many follows they got,
I don't care. It's not going to be believable on
the screen he got.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
He's so much charisma too, Like I feel like you.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Know you really everyone that the cast I know Lance
like I know him not as the basketball player, I
know Lance the person. Like if you don't get a
chance to be around him, I'm sure Safari never knew
he was, like the way he is just totally opposite,
like such a good dude, fun loving, laughing, joking, making
(07:49):
everyone laughing, Joe generous with everybody. I mean, takes care
of it, like everything. If he could do it, he
does it. It's he's just a person that off camera
it was just a pleasure to be around and his
commitment to being as good as he can be. That's
(08:11):
part of why he made it to the league. Yeah,
you know, it's that work ethic that he had. He
put it right into music, and he put it right
in and acting. It was amazing to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now we're shooting a movie and and and you know,
putting it to tow B versus other platforms.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
What are some of the the pros and cons of it?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What are some of the experiences that you know, independent
filmmakers can kind of expect when they're writing and producing
and directing these films with tubing them to to be.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
One of the again, you have to go through an aggregator.
That is a very hard process. That means you're giving
up equity to your film to this aggregating company for nothing,
just because they could get it onto I didn't know that.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, that's a problem. It's business. I'm a business dude.
Like that's one of the anament. It's like a management.
It's like a management broken for a movie.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Basically like let's le' use music, okay, Disctroky, United Masters.
They all have a fee you have to pay to
get your on all the DSPs. I have a distribution
Comical Adventure Music. I take a percentage to get you
on all the DSPs and including what's uh, you know,
all those platforms. I'm on every platform. So at the
end of the day, it's part of the cost of
(09:20):
doing business. I get it for now, and unless you
could do it directly yourself and they don't accept it
from them companies directly. Now, if you wait directly, that
means they bought it from you, okay, and it'll be you.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You could basically.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
License it to them for X amount of time two years,
three years, and that's how much money they'll pay you.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Gosh, it's business.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's simple. It's not hard. It's very simple. If you're
inside of this, you to understand it clearly. But we
had to go through an aggregator. They didn't take us.
I tried to shop it directly. So the pros and
cons or the cons.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Let's say.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
We found out very quickly that to be has a
tendency of releasing your movie without letting you know. Your
movies has to go through quality control, right, so you
got to follow the system quality control meeting. They got
to see what kind of sex is in it, you
know what I'm saying, ship.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Like that specifically, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know what I mean, because that changes the Our
rating was a mature audience, so it's a good rating.
I didn't want to make it r and I didn't
want to go further than that because I own it
and if I, well we own it, me and my partners,
we own it, and I don't want to go I
want to still have the opportunity to put it on
the bigger platforms and not just.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
You need to let them see like one of the one.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You want to see it now, crazy scenes where we
was like, yo, bro, it was day one for me.
It was my first day. Imagine that this is what
I walk into and I tell you it's it's pawn,
Like there's no way I thought it was really going on.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
So we're just gonna.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I'm like, oh, Rich, what the fuck?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
This isn't in the script this is Lance's first day acting,
first day, Like imagine you sitting there, it's your first time,
like in the first scene in the movie, because you
know we're not shooting it in order, and.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He's like, I gotta do this and there's cameras and
everybody in the lights and then it's like action.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So Lance got to get right to it like that's well,
it wasn't Lance.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It was another scene. It was Rebecca other stars. She's
the detective on the case. You know, if I said
the stars, you have Lance Safari, Trey, Trey Change, shout
out trade. You know, his son just had that old
him and his son was in a tornado in the
house and he's in I c U and getting better.
So God bless you. And Rebecca. That's the five leads
(11:46):
in our movie. And Rebecca big following two million plus
followers on a gram and everything. And that's the first
scene she's has a sex scene with some of her
boyfriend in the movie.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Intensive is that on set?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Like just that?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Well, you know, we try to protect everything, especially the
female whatever they're comfortable with. Yeah, but we have cameras
or screens watching everything, so even though they're not in
the room, they're seeing everything.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That video the setup.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Though, and when you watch it though, and then like
you're there and it's happening, the setup makes it be like,
all right, this is not real. It doesn't feel like yo,
this is awkward. It's like if you was really doing it,
and like people trying to you're going to feel like
it's a little all.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They show you, guys.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Since we're talking about I'm not sure remember day one.
It's on my worst side, but it's day one. But
at the end of the day. You know, we tried
to be I was not. I didn't try. I was
very complying with each female that had to protected all
the girls. I got five sisters. I got a thought,
I'm not playing with women. And again, but if you
(12:57):
want to do it, you're an adult.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You know what I'm saying. And that's what we did.
I make sure you know our lead. She's a Nebie,
She's a Brenda Paulino. You know, shout out Brenda. She
just had another baby too. But her scenes she pulled.
She was so nervous and I said, Brenda, you get
in the shower. I can't have you in the shower
with the bra it's not real, right. And any sex
(13:22):
scenes we did very tasteful, like again classic, very clean
and classy, like this movie opens with you and her
class at the end of the day, very clean, classy,
you know, And we made her relaxed and she was
(13:43):
able to pull it off. But it was a very
big deal because if you ever go on to be
most of these two be movies a soft pawn.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It is.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
You don't see people, you don't see that soft punk.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, you know, that's what would you be more uncomfortable
with on a set, being vulnerable on camera or having
sex on camera? Having sex on I'm thinking you're never
vulnerable though, I'm always like.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Crying having sex on you deal with Lane because he
was like, looky, yeahs you shared your feelings.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Would be terrified.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Having sex on cameras. Wow, Like you look up and
it's just like this, like you're just sitting and wrestling.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That was the most awkward.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Shit, That's what I'm saying, Like, what the fuck? That's
how about that cut? You got to do it to
get it again? Yeah, wasn't your expression wasn't You don't
look like you're enjoying.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That really did happen. It happened multiple times, Like it
was like you think I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Good turn regular. That was cool.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It's like done, Like you know what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
When Lance started shooting, he pulled me to the side
and I told him something. I said, Lance, I'll never
let you do a wax scene if you don't deliver.
I'm going to make sure you know to get it right.
So every shot he's like, and I'm filming it like
on my phone and pull him to the side and say, look,
you good like he was. You know, that was the
apprehension in the beginning. As the movie went on, he
(15:18):
was way more comfortably understood what acting's really about, the
little nuances that you have to have.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
To keep the scenes.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And if we was to watch the movie right now,
I could show you this is day one, like you
could see the difference. It's visible how much he progressed
in seventeen days of shooting.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So before we got on camera and we were talking
about the mishaps business on the business end of the movie, Yeah, released,
you didn't know it was out yet.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, they released our movie without telling us, which was
obscene because I'm like, if you're our partner. They again,
Tooby takes fifty five percent of every dollar off the muscle.
That's a real rape and pillage. You talk about music business, call,
I ain't about it. No fifty five percent, bro, every
(16:06):
movie you see they're taking fifty five percent.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Now, so fifty five percent off funding the full They
didn't fund nothing, fund Hell no, if.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
They worse than this is That's what I'm trying to
tell you. No one speaks about it. That's why I
wanted to speak.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
About distribution, licensing fees. I take fifty five percent off.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Every dollar, Yes, off the muscle, and you made that
film in the same you're getting forty five cents off
of every dollar.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So now when you go through the aggregator that they
force you to go through, typically eighty twenty your way,
So it's another twenty cents that's coming out for the aggregator. Now,
mind you, I have the friends, so we got a
better deal.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
But still they're getting a piece of that forty five
cents for being able to allowing me to put the
movie out. And we'll be on other networks. We're going
to be on Peacock, We're gonna be on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So but the reality is Tooby still is the number
one place to make the money for black film. That's
just the facts.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
So even though I go on these other bigger platforms,
Amazon Prime, my audience is not.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Over there watching it. They're on to be watching it.
That's the reality.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Now, I'm gonna take every penny I get from every
plight place. You know, Dame, I'm coming America New take it.
Oh man, my fault take it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
You know what I'm saying. All good? You know, Nikki,
I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You know, Vicky, she has a platform called n g TV,
which is next Generation. She owns it all, daming her
are the absolute places we should be. Yeah, but we
have to build their audience. They don't have enough people
on their platform, you know, to get a lot of eyeballs.
But that's what we should be pushing because then we
could get the right deals. When Dame sits there and
(17:46):
goes on these rants, I get it, I overstand it.
The raping pillage is real and that's just the facts.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Actually, that's actually more comparable to the podcast word. I
feel like because we talk a lot with other podcasts
about YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
YouTube.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
YouTube is not a secret. Isn't the most fair splits?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
What is it? What is it on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It depends it's there's not like one strict formula no
matter what.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It depends who you are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, things things shift a bit, but no matter what,
it's not the fairest thing of all.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
But it's where the community is.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So it's like, people like, why don't you take your
ship off YouTube because forit p I'm like, no, we're
making more money based off the community that YouTube has
or what we can leverage, and that's why they do it.
So yeah, and that's why yeah, I get why YouTube
is like, now you're only getting this much though we
have the community, we want to upload your video that easily,
we're going to take most of the fucking profit.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And that's the movie. So that's really the downside for
tub man. They don't pay. If they do pay, like
you was asking, they'll pay.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
They'll put up money for movies, but then it go
they own controlling for X amount of time.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's not for life.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
You just cut the length of time you want or
you know, that's based on how much they'll give you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And then they'll be what they.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Call it to be original and marketing promoted through their platform,
which is incredible. So that's why I said for independent
black film, we are number one right now for the
first two weeks. Because I'm not talking about two the originals.
I'm talking about guys that just get their movies, you
know what I'm saying. That's the difference. And we are
number one for that and we over three million streams
and counting in less than two weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So you mentioned CPMs as well, off, Mike, how does
that work within Okay, that's in our world.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
See, and again this is the con they don't have
a form, and they tell you when you move up
to the next tier of CPM, they start you on
their low form basically a million dollars. A million reviews
is about seven thousand bucks basically, and.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
For those don't CPM is dow loads per thousand clicks.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah, I'm just giving you the manute because we have
about six commercials inside of our hour and twenty minute film, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And that's definitely more than six commercials. No six. If
they add more, that's because we're doing well. Brother.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Oh yeah, all right, I'm because I'm watching it. That
is not six commercials.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The more commercials that we put in there, the better
at this moment. But they should raise us up our CPM,
and they didn't give me the formula when that happens,
So that's to me a negative. I like transparency just
to put me in a fight. Let me know what
I'm fighting, and that's it. Whoever I'm fighting, let's go,
and that's it. I know what I'm dealing with. I
tell independent artists the same thing. Contracts not forever. I
have no contract with them, so I could take my
(20:25):
movie put it anywhere. But the reality is my audience
is there. That's where I'm going to get the biggest
bang for our buck even with the rape and pillage.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
How about that? Yeah? I feel how about that?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Community is better than perception. As far as if this
went on Netflix, it's probably a cooler press release, like, look,
we're on Netflix type shit, But is that really the
best move based off the community you're trying to see?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Listen, Netflix came through our premier, Amazon Primes at a
premier that Netflix was talking to me about taking on
the film.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
They this is exactly what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Why they just started a black division for Netflix? Why
are they doing that? Because they see what Toobi's doing
right and the money they're generating. So they said, we
need to started a black division for these films, and
they said.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
This would be perfect.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So you know, we're in negotiation now, and if they
take it, guess what, it'll have to come down on
everywhere else and be lived only on things. But I
already made my money, right, it's no longer I got
to see how much streams I get. I would have
made money where I'm a profitable movie for X amount
of years and when it comes down, I could take
it and then put it back out on every platform.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Why do we think hip hop hasn't been leaning in
to the two B model the way you know your
brother did with Rock Feller films. If this system existed,
then we'd be on Paper Soldiers thirteen by now. I
think that meaning because they're being made for cheap and
they're profitable. Absolutely, and anyone can act in it the
same way Paper Soldiers.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We didn't think Beans was the greatest actor ever. It
was just great to watch Beans act like.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I have his tea queued up.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Oh my day one, this way get on the big screen.
It's not in the movie, so you know when I
see it.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
When I seen this, I stopped production.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I pulled my over.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I pulled my over and say, no, this is not
what I'm doing here. Yo. You know what I'm saying.
This is not production. Yes, everybody stop duction. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I wasn't filming that day. I showed up, but when
he showed me this, I said, let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Oh yeah that's and this was just the beginning. They
had more scenes to go, and.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
She what's what was the Chloe Balley movie.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Swarm Swarm which they marketed the whole entire movie off
Chloe Bailly backshots. Yes, I saw that with the right
camera angle would still be tasteful. Like that wasn't as
crazy as I thought you was.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Okay, Yeah, the.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Only thing you don't see in this is penetration. But
that's what that's what I walked in. And when you
first walked in, who likes I'm like, wait a minute,
this is real magic. This is real movie magic going
on here. If he's not, there's so many scenes, and
(23:12):
there's a lot of scenes. We had to be edit
the scenes because I said, yo, you you horny basket.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I said, you gotta tony down. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
When I got the script, I said, bro, I want
ten sex scenes.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yes, he just wanted the old deal.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
In this conversation ball and it started to taking on
a whole different meaning.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Now I heard a basketball.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is my coach and shout out continuo shut off the
cat Cat came in and killed it.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
He's Lancey's coach in the movie. Yeah, shout out cat.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So far you thought about because obviously you're you're a writer,
you thought about getting into that world writing scripts in
the film.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, I thought about it. I just didn't do it.
But I feel like that's that would be so easy
for me is that, because like the ship that I
think of is just pretty just weird, funny, psychotic, and
it just would be ill shit to just say a
cool write this down. And I did it with something
(24:22):
and I just saying, I just sain' like make it
a movie. But I was with this guy and this
girl and I just was talking and I was like, yo,
just write down everything I'm talking about. And they did it,
and then they made like a script out of it
and it's something called Snatched, and it's like a kind
of kidnapping ransom kind of movie with like a crazy twist.
(24:44):
And it just was all based off of me talking.
So if I could talk and somebody else write down
what I'm talking about, and it happened because me and myself,
I can't sit there and like I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Can't about to say your front.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I just found out about chat GBT a month ago.
When did it?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How did you just find out about I've heard about.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It, but I never knew it, like cave what it was.
So then.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
My gym trainer was talking about He's like, man, this
chat GBTT got us all losing our jobs. I was
like how, And then he explained it to me. I
said word. Then I started using it for the training ship.
I'm like, oh, I ain't paying this nigga no more.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
One of our co hosts and marriage had a trainer
before she did a chat GBT ship lost eight pounds
in like a week.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yo, I just found out. I'm mad. I just found
out about it. Though I could tell you how to.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Like like clear up a lie and and and make
sure sound believable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
To get out of how to get out of this
too deep in that Like I'll use it for like
admin work stuff. But I know people that got rid
of the therapist And now I'm like, yo, is that
is that your like significant other?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Now?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Like they talked to them on a whole.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's always set up. It's set up to be a therapist.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
My partner Denio told me years ago that everyone is
going to get assigned an avatar, and I believe it
now once I've seen chat GPT. You're going to get
an avatar that you talk to. It's going to control
everything you do and take care of everything you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
So anything you want to do.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
If you have psychology problems and issues, just talk to it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Just create more more and controls crazy.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
If GPT you could do something that like where we say, hey,
where can I find or have a throat goat and
it really happened on the spot.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Want to be like, this is not how things need
to be rung.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Bro Like, that's what I'll now, But I go they said,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Like again my grandkids, I'll say, they said, we'll have
a robot as a wife.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I can see it as a wife, as a wife
significant other.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
No, and again you could still have a human being,
but you're gonna have that robot that that's you fucking
That's what they're basically saying. That's gonna be your companion
in any walk, shape, form of life.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Listen, Rocky For is one of my favorite movies. Uncle
Pauli had a robot Rocky For. I thought that was
the greatest shit ever. But I didn't think Uncle Pauly's the.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Way they we were arguing on whatever episode was, I
was trying to tell everyone that the younger kids are
having less sex.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
I could totally see they just set in their basement
and beat off.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yes, you give them a robe.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
You know when people when first they said that to me,
they said, no, one's gonna be with the robe. But
I said niggas is fucking blow up dogs. What are
you talking about? What are you saying?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
They're gonna fuck this robot. They're gonna make it robot.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I was in Vegas and seen strippers that were robots,
and for see, was that ces the technology things that
they have out that convention they had strippers that was robots.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
What's next? They don't have him? Second and fucking he's coming?
How much?
Speaker 7 (28:04):
How much.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Is no problems? Bro five?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
In my twenties there was plenty of women. I shouldn't
have fun if I knew that, let me just go home.
And this robot man may have been a safe for twenty.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
They have been a safe for twenties.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I just don't know if I'm going down that road, fellas.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I'm not kids like.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Just real hell nah man, I just the New Toby
movies on a robot.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
No, we're playing swimming. Yes, that's a fire. I look
better now doing that.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
A guy who falls in love with leaves his girl
and falls in love with a robot.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yes, I feel you seen her before the movie her. Yeah,
it's not a real robot. He's just talking to like
a woman, like over the speakers and lovely but.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
That's what's what happened. I'm just saying I understand it.
I understand it. When they told me I'm talking my
real tech guys that I was talking to them.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I'm excited it's coming. I'm excited and inspired. Are you
excited about the movie?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah? Balling now on to be that's right. Is this
thing on? Is this recording us? It was not me.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
He was already flirting with the machines. Speaking of AI,
when you guys were dominating the music business, do you
think you would have incorporated some of the AI stuff?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Would have never, would have never. He's not a tech
guy in the sense of trying to change, so I
don't believe he would have ever incorporated. It would had
to show him something phenomenal, not just recreating a voice.
So I we will say this. He was, you know early.
(30:03):
I mean, people don't know all the things he was
trying to do. That Bob Maley.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Movie of Redemption.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
We talked to. His name is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Blackwell, the guy who owns all the rights to the
Malli music. We sat with him, spoke to him and
he said, I will never let this happen. That's what
he said, And we was like, but we're not telling
you where they're going to have an actor playing Bob Molly,
because that's why he said he would never do it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
We was going to use the hologram. Remember they have
the hologram for.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
All of the concerts, and we would have like an
image of Bob for the movie, but when his concerts,
it's really Bob Molly, but it's the hologram of Bob
Marley from the actual concerts to from real footage. And
he was intrigued with that. Was like, I wouldn't put
an actor's the great Bob Molly. We won't want to
(30:52):
never miss it, but we will use the actual footage.
And he was very intrigued with that, but he still
said no, and then he allowed an actor to play
Bob Maly and the movie. So it was something when
I say technologies, Erv was on that for the greats.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That are no longer here.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, to use that technology for that purpose, like a Biggie,
a Tupac Earth Love Tupac, you know, in Bob Maly.
It was those three artists that he was definitely like,
we should do something with the hologram that they have
that technology to use it. So when you think of
Ai is technology. But in what capacity are you talking
(31:31):
for AI? Because you're talking and mixing a record? Maybe yeah,
are you're talking about making a record?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Making a record?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Never? Yes?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I mean it's interesting because I'm anti AI all the way.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But if I was born twenty years after now, I
feel like some of the greatest new producers now are
more tech people than they are music people. Yes, it
may have just happened like that, just maybe the only
way you know at that point, you.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Know AI, you could I could become a producer tomorrow.
I could go to a thousand vas and tweak each
b to get it to what I like exactly how
you can still have tastes a Yes, So to me,
I've told my producers that are real producers, to you
start using AI to enhance what they're doing, to find
new sounds, new music.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You know, it's all creative. It's all about an idea.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Like we just said, with the movie, that's all It
takes that idea and it could spawn into that movie, right,
just like that same with music, that idea, that sound,
and it spawns into a record with the right artists,
and that can you know that creativeness. I watched it
all the time I watched it all the time with
my brother, like he was amazing with that. So that
(32:37):
kind of replaces him and his input in certain aspects.
And I don't know if he would do it, but
you know, I feel he if he was smart like
to do that, it wouldn't be the bad thing.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
It's only going to make him better.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Speaking of your brother the Great Rest in Peace. Some
of jam is coming up, Yes, and there's a tribute
FORRV this year.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Can I talk out the pros and cons?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean I want, I want to hear about it.
I want to hear what the family has planned or obviously.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Bringing this up at a really crazy time because they
literally just got approved today.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Really, while I was in the car sitting waiting out front.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Literally my sister called me, yeah, it's on, because we
was pulling out because the way they handle it, Hot
ninety seven was doing a shitty fucking job. Really, you
can't have I have no tickets, no passes, and it's
a tribute to my brother John. Can't get it. They
told hold on, they told Joe Rule is performing, he
(33:36):
can't have but only this many people, which is like
his in the counting artists. They're not counting like his entourage.
Let's say even security is that we have security. I
never heard this before. I never even thought about it.
So there's only one reason I felt that could be
being handled like this. I don't want to talk about
(33:58):
it on air, but there's only one thing that it
could be in my opinion, that they're doing this to
him and they attributing. Then they cut it down from
a forty five minute show to twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
The fuck I'm doing with twenty five minutes, even.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
With the amount of things did fuck out of here?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So Rul yesterday said I'm not doing it. We literally
was off yesterday. Cleared it up literally at about twelve
eleven o'clock today.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
How you do a tribute to somebody without their family being.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
There exactly, I said, even ninety seven even come close
to fumbling that like they know what ever?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Na that shit is corny, man, It doesn't even matter.
It's the fact it's so corny. Me personally, I don't
even want to show up because then it's like I
condone and agreed with what's going on, and I don't.
And that's just the realness. But Rule wants me to
be there, but I'm like, fuck nigga, fuck them, I
don't care no more. Radio is irrelevant to me. It's nothing.
(34:56):
It's like, and then you're not doing nothing in any
treat you. They offered that show up, they wanted us
to do it, and then to do that to me
is like, what is that? There's got to be a
subplot that we don't know. And that's why I said
this might be one thing that might be going there.
I just don't feel like talking about on this show, right.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Respect, Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
How do you feel about the current state of deaf
jam and this universal in general?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You know, music is in trouble in my opinion, the
business of it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
They just you know, they cut a deal with AI
to give your lightness, right, so if they signed you,
you know, the reality is it's very hard to tell
an artist, especially a new artist, not to take the money.
It's just hard, man. It come from nothing. Nigga puts
a check in front of you. Dance, Nigga.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You knows to you to dance or not, but it's
very hard.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I tell everyone, if you are in that position, you
did something right to get them to offer you that.
That doesn't happen to everybody. Second party is nothing forever.
Just make sure you have an exit plan. Take the money,
figure out what you're going to do. I honor your deal.
Honor your deal.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
That's what men do.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Honor that shit, yo. Don't come in and start crying.
If you get bigger and better, change your deal, negotiate.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's business. Don't sit back and be like, I want
my masters and that's.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
It's so bullshit to me because when you signed that deal,
you didn't say that because you would have never signed it.
Don't sign that take the money and then just flip flop,
and you have to have a reason why you want
it all back.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You should see your trajectory that way, not here. Don't
expect much.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
If you've just maintained, you know, and they didn't drop you,
you was good enough not to be dropped.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's business.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Also, independent artists, like I said, I got a platform
for it. I got thousands of artists, you know, you know,
even you know United Masters. I'm for all in thee
in it artists. People say you had a label, I said,
I understand the game is different.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Oh my artists. You didn't hear not one of them
complaining because we took care of them. We gave them
the best deals they could get under what we had.
As simple as that. It's just business. It's like take it,
I don't care. Let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Hear that so far, we's sow with you man, no
more writing, man, you know honest, it's a lot of
like you were early on the writing.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
When music was fun, when music was fun.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But now there's been a boom of female mcs, female artists.
Your pen obviously is legendary. With a female artist, we
won't you know, get into that, but read all right,
but now with the way yeah, now you're a chat GBT.
So now with the way of female artists coming in,
(37:51):
you don't get the urge to be like, yo, I'm
I'm gonna get behind one of these these female season
and get some hits. Because once you're a writer, you're
always a writer. You never lose that.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, it's you know, the music ship for me right now,
it's just it's just such a circus. It's just so much.
It's just such a facade. And I don't even.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You have someone to do with that. A lot of
your a lot of your a lot of things you
wrote have have caused that that that boom.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You don't take responsibility, brother, Nah, But I'm saying like
I feel like this this new era like nothing lasts anymore.
Like like every like no matter how illen had, some
some something or someone is you could put something up,
it's gone.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
How long are we talking about it?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
If a new hot song come out three days, four
days a week sitting, then it's like the gratification ain't
even there, like how it used to be.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Like before we do.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Something, that ship is killing the whole year and crushing
somebody else while it's happening, and it's like, damn, that
ship is kind of dope.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
We got to saw that happen for an entire year.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
I need to take accountability on that too.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
We're all in the content game as far as how
many movies do we put out a month a lot,
how many apps do we have, how many options of
ship can we watch? How many music apps do we have?
How many artists can just upload shit to YouTube? Yeah,
it doesn't stay because every day when you hit refresh,
it's something, it's something new.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
You scroll, take one thumb move and you're onto something else.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
In the content era, Yeah, that's so much of it
is crazy.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
That's why now, like I'm really like in the more
of the invest in and dealing with sh that has
nothing to do with entertainment. Like I'm in the health
insurance business. Even nobody knows. I found that out in
the movie nobody knows. You can you need health insurance.
I got your hold.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
My daughter's EpiPen, so I gotta talk.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
But you in New York, right, Yeah. New York's structure
is horrible for health insurance. Absolutely, they try to work.
That's why you popped home me downtown. That's why you
ran down on me the United Healthcare joint. Yeah, and
I got a contract with United Healthcare. So when that happened,
I'm like, damn, I hope that don't affect nothing, but
it in fact, nothing goes to show that. It's like, cool,
you were here for the moment. You're going somebody who
(40:08):
take your position and that's it. But I just I
really like to make money not doing nothing. I like
to sleep as long as I want. I just want
to go to the gym, take care of my kids.
I really love the acting shitting out the movie shit Like, yeah,
I really like after seeing how this came out because
(40:28):
when we did it, I was enjoying myself, but then
seeing it come together, I was like, damn. And when
we did the premiere, that was like my first like
movie premiere or something I'm a part of. It was
a dope feeling and experience and watching the movie with
a theater full of people. And then I was like
kind of like the favorite because I'm like the I
was to escape for the woman who was being treated bad,
(40:50):
and I was like, yo, I like that.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
I like this role. Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
In the comedy, Yeah, you have people laughing and everything
in the movie.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
You're gonna watch it when you're gonna watch it. I'm
gonna watch it tonight, when you're gonna watch it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I would have watched it if I would have got
the link before. You guys didn't even know it was,
how know you know, honestly thought y'all were come here
to plug it and we were gonna be like, yo,
it's out on this specific date in the episode was
gonna come out with the movie.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
That's what That's what we wanted to do to.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Be from us bro.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
It was from I'm looking at my Instagram and like
the fans day, like posting ship and they're like, yo,
old Ship's a quite a good child.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
I'm like what I hit them in the I said, yo,
the movies out? I said, not hold on, I haven't on.
We typed it in. I said, oh, ships out And
it was the wrong version, which is your house?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Crazy? That there was? My name is spelled wrong? In
his name spelled name?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
How do you miss spelled Chris?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
God? How do you not spell that right?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Man?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I don't even want to tell you what? How do
you miss?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Felt that crazy? At the end of the day, I
was furious. And then you heard niggas saying cut and action.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I think to be does that on purpose. I think
they do like that because they know those those are
going viral. Maybe yeah, I think they do that type of.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
People.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
The movie that they was watching, someone who got shot
laid on the floor and he's like, is it okay yet?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Talking go viral? That clip would go viral? Movie had yeah, yeah,
like yeah, they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Ship Love and hip Hop did that with ray J's hat. Yeah,
that's viral year that lasted. So the right version is onto.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
The right version they corrected. The fast quality is everything.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I'm gonna watch it to night.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I matter didn't watch it before we got here today,
I would I would have watched the last night had
I known it was out, and watch it tonight so
we could definitely talk about this morning show. I'm looking
forward to it. Congrats on you part two and part
three already. Yes, so Fari, congrats on everything you're doing
healthcare major. Yeah, so I know you're going to If
I see another dirt bike, I already.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Know what that means. You ran the back. Yeah. I
don't even touch the bikes normal. Since you got in
the healthcare, you can't.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I'm getting rich your help.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
I feel like dad and like having the kids now,
it's like like let me now, Yeah, now, I love
my I really love my kids, you know what I'm saying.
Like at first, I was like, you know, no, I'm
just kidding.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
This nigga is crazy. I was like, I was like
at first, I was like, I don't know about these
little niggas.
Speaker 7 (43:35):
And even last night in my hotel room and I
was looking at my phone and a picture popped up
and I'm like, damn, I missed my kids right now
mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
And that's part of this game. Yeah, you have to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
That, with with acting now Asfari, I feel like there's
not enough films centered around dance hall mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
To dance move.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
We definitely spoke about that. That was one of the
scripts that they was talking about. And I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Rich my part and he's making okay, he understands could
but like no something.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
His class, but what could be cool? Someone's going to
get really to game, try to make it.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
They made it.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Oh then it came out.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Hold on, that's my first film, Chris, He's about to
talk ship.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
When I saw a game, I was like, wait.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
So the new the shots tool, it's shot. I'm in it. Okay,
thank god, big shots to Kei Mini Malia. So I'm
in that. But it's called Bendetta. It didn't come out yet.
We shot this movie like I ain't gonna lie Min's
been he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Oh yeah. And then a big part.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Of shot to us and just you know all the
movies is the scoring, which is the music that's playing
under certain stuff. And the way he's scoring this movie. Yo,
he's been in this, he's been in the studio for
like a year. It's like watching it and just getting
it right with the sounds, watching it in theaters by himself, Like,
when this comes out, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Like that movie.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
I ain't gonna I forgot to did that until you
said that because they didn't come out to you and
I shot it so long ago. But I'm excited. I
can't wait for that one to come out to That's
gonna be dope.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Well, I'm definitely watching Balling tonight to shout out the
lance his acting debut. Yeah, shout out to Chris Gotti,
the legendary.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yes, ninety seven, do better. You gotta do better. Man,
you can't. You can't. You can't. You can't mess that up. Notary,
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Don't do it, And you know, gonna haunt that stage.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
I was going out, I was going out like, whose
idea was it?
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Who was like, Yo, ninety seven said they want on Earth, okay,
job performing and do a murder inc irv Gotti. So
they brought it to us and then they don't handle
it right.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, that doesn't matter. I'm not surprised though, But you know,
I was gonna say that because we have some more
projects that again we're putting out.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
That'll be great. That's gonna be great to see too.
You know, Prince is right here. Shout out Prince. You
know prem and The Mundane Truth a documentary on prem
that's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, I'm in that. And
just you from Queen's.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
I'm from uptown where you're from Queens Queen's Okay, And
then we have again night Shift.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
We did a horror film in the Strip Club. That's
the next movie that we got coming down.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
That's the horror film and film Strip Clubs, which one
of these bitches of the vampire.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I've been in Starlett's in the wrong night.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yeah, the horror when the brims walking starlets and.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
Parking lot and you can't even back out.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
Here in the way production right now for because two
because one was the first one that was about a
guy that came home from jail barber I mean and
started cooking.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And we because of two in the production right now.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
So shooting right now again, just working, trying to stay
busy in the film industry, looking into AI films coming okay,
telling you you mentioned AI that's that's going to be
the next But you know, I just wanted to keep
everything moving and just to keep pushing.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
And absolutely thank you again for having us on this platform.
Thank y'all for coming. Man, it was it's a pleasure
getting to sit here and talk to y'all.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Were looking at congra Thank you. I've been doing you'all
thing for a fact.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
We got together a while ago to dinner and it
was a fun. So it's glad we got to finally
do it.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Yeah, I still come October.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I want to do the Rule three thirty six, twenty
five anniversary podcast episode. We did it with Guru and
his brother from Black album, like just the episode dedicated
to anniversary of album.
Speaker 6 (47:48):
So I would love you to sit down in October
with us to tell y'all.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
I gotta tell y'all about the time I went to
his bachelor party. Okay, oh man, be careful. That was yeah,
that was that was like everything right now.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
It was a great time.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
But I was I was like the youngest. I was
the youngest one there. I went with Jay Biggs. We
all went. I was like nineteen or twenty at the time,
and I walked in and I was just looking around,
like and then John came up to me. Gave me
about five thousand singles. He was like, you have fun, man, yeah,
and that was the greatest night of my life. I
was like, Yo, this is what these rapping niggas.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
Right me at nineteen would have put that five right
in my pocket.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
I thought about it.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
I thought I've done it.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
I do it now.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
I'm lying, I'm saying ninety thirty five and I'd be
like ya, thanks.
Speaker 7 (48:35):
I remember one time I was with the Game of
the Strip Club. He had a whole we was like
your whole time. I'm like, yo, good look, Yeah that's terrible. Man,
is terrible.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
That's Chris Gotti Safari. Thank y'all, fellas for stopping by
Balling available now on to be stream it supported.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, black independent films not stopping. Thank y'all, gentlemen, Thank
you
Speaker 2 (49:00):
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