November 11, 2022 • 30 mins
On Veterans Day we want to shine a spotlight on the “Triple 7” event. In January 2023, Legacy Expeditions, a veteran-owned, extreme expedition company, is raising awareness and inspiring action to support the Folds of Honor Foundation through their upcoming global expedition, “Triple 7”. The seven-day, record-breaking skydiving adventure around the world includes seven skydives across seven continents, in seven days to raise $7 million in scholarships for military veterans and their families. Newt’s guest is: Mike Sarraille. He is the founder and CEO of Legacy Expeditions, former Recon Marine and Scout-Sniper, and retired U.S. Navy SEAL with 20 years of experience in Special Operations, including the elite Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
On this episode of Newts World this Veterans Day, I
wanted to spend some time talking about a major fundraising
event this January that is designed to bring awareness and
scholarships to veterans and their families through the Folds of
Honor Foundation. As you know, my dad spent twenty seven
years in the Army, and I have a very deep
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commitment to our veterans and that's why I was delighted
to learn that in January of twenty twenty three, Legacy Expeditions,
a veteran owned extreme expedition company, is raising awareness and
inspiring action to support the Folds of Honor Foundation through
their upcoming global expedition Triple seven. The seven day record
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breaking skydiving adventure around the world includes seven skydives across
seven continents in seven days in January twenty twenty three
to raise seven million dollars for scholarships for military veterans
and their families. Here to talk about the Triple seven event,
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I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, who I have
to say is amazingly impressive, Mike Sarelli. He is the
founder and CEO of Legacy Expeditions, former recon Marine and
scout sniper and retired US Naval seal with twenty years
of experience in special operations, including the Elite Joint Special
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Operations Command. He is also the co author of the
best selling book The Talent War, How Special Operations and
great organizations win on Talent. Mike, welcome and thank you
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for joining me on Newts World. I think the fact
that my favorite speaker of the house, and especially my
dad's favorite speaker of the house just called me impressive.
Life is complete. Now retire and give these expeditions up. Well,
I wait, before we get into your career, I just
have to ask you Legacy Expedition does extreme expeditions given
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your background, what does that mean you go back to
Special operations? In Special Operations is a warrior culture, but
it is also you know, you're an extreme athlete in
a lot of ways. So we are all about pushing
the limits of human performance because anything else stunts growth.
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True learning and growth take place when you push yourself
outside your mental in physical comfort zones. And I do
want to reinforce that we're not sociopaths. We do mitigate risk,
following sort of the Special operations military model to the
lowest level that we can. We can never eliminate risk,
but we do everything in our power to make sure
that we're prepared for the expeditions we go on. So
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this is like for the triathlon competitor who wants to
go one stage further. It is and first off, the
most extreme expedition there is is combat. That is the
most extreme thing that you can be engaged in, and
these hail in comparison to that. But I'm one hit
replacement deep. A lot of the guys involved with Legacy Expeditions,
which are all former special operations, are mostly retired. We're
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all one hundred percent disabled, total and permanent. But to
think that we're just going to sit on a porch
in a rocking chair, you've lost your mind. We feel
it's our duty to continue pushing the limits, to set
the example for other veterans getting out. But also, you know,
to us, it's a return to American exceptionalism. We're trying
to live out. You know Teddy Roosevelt's path that he
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laid before us. Man, that guy was always going into nature,
always always learning, always always sharpening his blood. I've been
with several veterans programs that are oriented to people who
have permanent significant disabilities, and they turn them into capabilities
rather than disabilities. And I always think for all these
civilians who are sitting around whining, if they could get
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a little bit of the spirit of the folks who
just get up every morning and make it happen no
matter what. You must have had that very early, because,
as I understand it, you and list of the Marine
Corps right after high school? Why did you decide to join?
You know what's funny is I come from one We're
a Bara family. Our family has been in the San
Francisco area since eighteen ninety nine. Roman Catholic, conservative family,
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fiscally conservative, socially moderate. And I grew up in a
town called Atherton, which I'm sure you're familiar with. It
was one of the most affluent towns. So my dad
came from very little as well as my mom, and
you know, they did very well for themselves. But my
dad built his company up and he made sure for
his two sons and his daughter that we knew we
were not inheriting that company, that he wanted us to
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blaze our own trail. And I hate to say it,
but it is what it is. Atherton and Powell too,
are very entitled areas and there's a lot of generational wealth,
and we didn't come from generational wealth. But my dad
always bred us to look at the up side a risk,
not to see risk and be scared, but to see
risk and smile because this is, you know, as we
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would say, this is the land of opportunity. An opportunity
is what you make of it. So when everyone else
was going off to Ivy League schools or colleges, I
think I ruined the streak. From my high school, which
was Bellarmine College Preparatory at Jesuity to high school where
pretty much everyone goes to college. I broke the streak
and enlisted in the Marine Corps. And it was the
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best move I've ever made. I mean, there's a reason
INC magazine called the Marine Corps the best business management
NBA there is. He then an effect went to college
because you were selected for the highly competitive Marine Enlistening
Commissioning Education program and you've got a bachelor's degree in
business administration from Texas A and now. So from San
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Francisco to Texas A and m through the Marine Corps
is quite a journey, I'll tell you. As a sergeant.
I had very little money when I flew to Texas
A and M for the first time. It was a
culture shock, but you know, I enjoyed it. I finished
college in three years because the ward kicked off. Texas
M is definitely a strong culture. And tomorrow I'm speaking
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to the entire Naval rotc at texasan M, the coure
cadets for Veterans Day on leadership. So I'm humbled. I
think actually, age culture is almost as strong as marine culture.
So somebody who has both of them, it's a kind
of culture nobody at Harvard understands. So then you got
a degree, you're an officer. You then go in the
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Basic Underwater Demolition Seal training, which itself is a form
of extreme adventure. What was that like? You know what?
To say that Basic Underwater Demolation school is an extreme
sport is not doing justice to it. You are pushing
the limits of the mind. And given the attrition rates
of anywhere from eighteen to ninety percent, I think that
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speaks for itself. I mean, we've seen classes start with
two hundred and fifty students and only eight graduate. But
I will say this new I was so to be
a Marine, and the Marine laid the foundation. I was
not a focused kid. You know. I had capacity, I
had capability. I just wasn't tapping into it. So when
I went to seal training, I'm already a sergeant in
the Marine Corps. I'm a recon marine, I'm a scout sniper.
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And in fact, one of my officers looked at me
and he said, hey, Mike, just gonna give you a
word of advice, and I said, yes, certain, he was
a mentor. He said, if you quit, you'll embarrass the
Marine Corps. And I died laughing because there was truth
in what he was saying. He was making a joke.
So there was no way I was going to quit
seal training because I was still representing the Marine Corps.
But that program and I went back for a short
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six months as an instructor at the Basic Underwater Demolition
School is one of the most professionally run programs, and
I know it's been under scrutiny recently because some tear
gas videos came out and there was a student that
passed away recently in training. It is professionally run. We
mitigate risk, we have doctors out there. The statistical rates
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of fatality is extremely low, but you'd never know who's
gonna make it. We've had Olympic medal winning swimmers step
into training, We've had NCAA Division One football players step
in and they're gone within three weeks. And this little
Korean kid from La was in my class who I
thought was passive, little guy, very unassuming, and I thought
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he was going to quit. At the end of hell week,
there was twenty five of us of the two fifty left,
and that kid was standing there. And I would have
never guessed this little, soft spoken Korean kid was going
to make it. You'll like this story. I ended up
at Seal Team three with them. We were both ended
up in the Battle of Vermadi in two thousand and six,
where he was awarded the Silver Star, which I watched this.
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He ran into the street to pull a soldier, an
Iraqi soldier out of the street who was wounded, then
went back to the Battle of Sardar City with me
in two thousand and eight, similar to my pipeline, he
was awarded the Broade Star. There he was selected by
the Navy to get a degree. He finished that degree
a three point nine eight in mathematics at the University
of San Diego, and they were going to send him
back to a seal team, but he said, I'd really
like to become a medical doctor. Ends up at Harvard,
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becomes a Harvard educated doctor, and then after a few
years as a Navy doctor, says, hey, what the hell,
I'll applied for NASA. Out of eighteen thousand applicants, he
was one of twelve selected and all by the age
of thirty four. Astronaut silver Star, a Navy Seal Bronze Star,
a Harvard educated doctor, and his name is doctor Johnny Kim.
And again, any American if they saw all the students
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line up, would have discounted him. But the process shows
it's not about what you look like. It's the heart,
it's the grind, it's the resiliency, it's the drive. The
process weeds the elite out from the chef. That's so extraordinary.
Here's a guy who understands living life to the fullest
and who follows his dream. I think it'll be a
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great story for Americans. Let me give you one more
piece of information. And we didn't know about this until
after a lot of us were retired. Because he kept
this information close. His dad was highly abusive, an alcoholic,
and one night he called the police on his dad,
thinking his dad had left the house. He'd actually went
into the attic and Johnny Kim told the police, hey,
I think my dad is still in the house. And
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ultimately there was a shootout and his dad was killed.
And so he dealt with all this trauma by the
age of eighteen, enlisted in the Navy Seals, and I mean,
the most humble individual. I only hope that a leader
like Johnny Kim, once he gets out of NASSA, steps
up and leads this nation. Somebody's got to write a
book about his life. I mean, that's really remarkable. Part
of your own training program for you is that you
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served as the Seal Junior Officer Training Course director. So
I mean you really understand the process of training people
from the ground up. I will say I only understand
it because of this. It's you know, Isaac Newton said this.
If I've seen further, it's because I've stood on the
shoulders of giants, men and women better than myself. I've
been the product of such great mentors in coaches, from
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my mom and dad to every Marine officer and senior
enlisted or seal officer and senior enlisted I served with,
especially the men to my left and right. I learned
so much from them. You have to as a business leader,
as a government or federal or state leader, as a
military leader, you have to have a passion for developing
those beneath you and around you. And not everyone has
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cut out for that. But I mean, at the end
of the day, you know, I like to call it
the legacy of leadership. A Sealed buddy who wrote the
book called Attributes. He calls it the irony of leadership.
And the best leaders understand this that your job is
not only to drive results, is to create a culture
and uphold standards and accountability, but it's also to create
the next generation of leaders. And we're not doing that
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right now. The fact that we don't have leadership development
training in lower education or higher education is not setting
this nation up for sustained growth. Leadership it is a trait,
It's an attribute. When you have a passion for developing
those below you and you see them start to become
better than you, there's nothing more beautiful. And I only
hope that my legacy when I leave this earth is
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that I left it better off with more leaders than
I found it. I really admire your whole approach, your
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whole philosophy. You know, you had ten combat deployments supporting
the Global War on Terror. You got a silver Star,
six bronze stars for valor, and a purple Heart. And
then when you retire, you become an ambassador for the
Special Operations Warrior Foundation. Tell us a little bit about that.
So this is tied into Legacy Expeditions. One the purposes
Legacy Expedition is twofold. When I talk about legacy, I
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talk about the memory of our fallen, and so few
people know the names of our fallen or can even
tell you the story of just one of the thousands
that were lost in the Global War and Terror. When
I think of the men and women that I served
with it are no longer with us. They are a
shining example from the way they live their lives by
the code, their leadership principles, their traits, their actually utes.
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We want our youth to read these stories and their
legacy is it's important to mean it's important. To Andy Stump,
who's also a retired navycal and co founder of Lacy Expeditions,
the second we stopped telling the story of our fallen.
Their legacies die. Now, the other part of legacy expeditions
is we believe one of the greatest gifts you can
give somebody, if earned, is an education. And so not
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only do we uphold their memories by telling their stories,
but we also try to raise money for the scholarships
of their children, their legacies that they left behind. So
the Special Operations Warrior Foundations specifically funds educational sponsorships for
kids who lost their Special Operations parents in the war,
and then Folds of Honor funds educational scholarships for military
families and first responders. So we predominantly support those organizations
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because they give educations to again the military families and
first responders. You know, it's part of all that. In
twenty twenty, you co wrote the best selling book The
Talent War, How Special Operations and Great Organizations went on Tala.
What led you to write that book? When I was
in the University of Texas mccombs's NBA program, I felt
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guilty that I was getting an MBA towards the end
of my career and all my peers who continued to
serve and go overseas didn't have that opportunity. So with
the help of gentlemen like Admiral Bobbianman, who's the former
de facto director of the CIA, four star Navy Admiral
amazing individual, General Tony Kukolow, Admiral William McRaven, who all assisted,
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we stood up something called the Vetted Foundation, and we
built a called an MBA Light, a two month program
that gives senior military members, both enlisted an officer, the
financial acumen that they lack so they know how to lead,
how to lead in spades. But they just lacked financial acumen, accounting, marketing,
and we gave them those skills and the program was
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highly successful. In fact, the Huffington Post hailed it as
potential to revolutionize the way that veterans exit the military.
We ran into some politics in Texas with the Texas
Veterans Commission, and we got shut down because ultimately we
were trying to build this program so that veterans could
use their GI bill to pay for that two month
executive level course. When it failed, I was devastated, and
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a good business mentor said, hey, Mike, I told you
from the start, make this a for profit entity. He said,
there's something about free enterprise with the exchange of value
that I just didn't understand. I was being driven on altruism.
I listened to him and I started Talent War Group.
And so we started as an executive search firm placing
very great or very good military leaders into small to
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medium sized businesses. But it was not easy to convince
business leaders to accept somebody into their business that didn't
have industry experience. Herb Kelleher, founder of Southwest Airlines, once said,
we hire from mindset, we can train all the rest.
But that is now lost on a lot of business leaders.
I mean World War Two, they hired veterans who had
no industry experience that built the economy we have today.
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It was because of the skills that they had to attributes,
the code, the discipline, and so my co author George Randall,
also a Army officer, in twenty five years in executive
search and HR, we decided to change the system in
another way and the book has become I mean, even
the Marine Corps called us and said we're using this
book as the bible for how we're redesigning in our
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talent management system for the US Marine Corps. We thought
they were joking with us. But business leaders have grabbed
a hold of this and they're transforming the way they hire,
looking at character over experience and understanding that if you
again leadership development, if you put time into the right
person that has all the right attributes, you can turn
them into a effective business leader that stays with you,
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and especially if they demonstrate loyalty. So that's why we
wrote the book is I wanted the ability to touch
business leaders and say, hey, listen, you're overlooking a talent
pool called the veterans who have leadership skills and are unflappable.
Especially in times like COVID when everyone was losing their minds,
veterans were like, this is just another day at war.
We've got this. We know how to make decisions with
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women information. So the process of focusing on character reminds
me of Reverend Martin Luther King Junior's comment that he
hoped that his children would be judged by the content
of their character, not by the color of their skin.
And I think that that most Americans. We did a
poll America's New Majority Project, ninety one percent of the
country agrees with that principle. So there's potentially fertile ground
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out there. For you in educating the country into how
to make it operational. Now the other thing you do
I have to ask you. On August six, twenty ten,
thirty American military servicemen and a US military dog were
killed when a chun A helicopter in a mission entitled
Extortion seventeen was shot down in Afghanistan. It was the
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single largest loss of life to naval special warfare since
the Afghan War started. And in honor of that, over
the course of fifteen days, the Mount Everest Skydiving Expedition
Team conducted five jumps in the highest drop zones in
the world in the Mount Everest region. That must have
been quite an extraordinary trip. It was, and it was
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almost nine months to the day after I had had
my hip replacement, so I was very close with the
Extortion seventeen seals that were on board. I deployed with
him the deployment right before that. In fact, I was
with him the night that Adam Brown was killed. And
there's a book called Fearless about Adam Brown, an amazing
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individual with an amazing story who overcame drug addiction prior
to joining the Navy, which again just reiterates why the
military is such a great pathway for a lot of
young men and women that made lack focus and discipline.
But one of my best friends, Derek Benson, was on board.
I knew all of them well, and that one hit
me really hard. Hit me as hard as you know.
I was on the rooftop with Michael Mansour who jumped
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on a grenade three feet from me to save my life.
He was posthumously, as I said, awarded the Metal of Honor.
I mean, these men and women were just I can't
find the words to do them justice. But we had
an opportunity to go to Mount Everest again push the
limits of human performance by jumping into the highest drop
zones in the world, while upholding the memories of those
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aboard Extortion seventeen. And we raised close to two hundred
thousand four scholarships for the children of two of Extortion seventeen,
which close to twenty five kids were left without their
fathers after that incident. And then this year you did
a skydiving expedition to Iceland in memory of the falling
Special Operations Forces. How many times did you jump in Iceland.
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Let's just say that trip did not go as planned,
just like every military operation or every business operation or
a government program. You have a plan, and sometimes external
factors work against you. We ended up doing four jumps,
which were absolutely beautiful. Of sixteen we were supposed to
do sixteen andy stuff, and I ultimately pulled ourselves off
that trip, which I think shows sound judgment because the
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group that was running it was completely unsafe in a
nept and they'd already hurt three people. And I mean
at the point we were pulling off, they asked us
to start running the expedition, which is similar to the
captain telling you to take hold of the Titanic after
it's already hit the iceberg. So we returned home, but
we did raise about I think thirty thousand dollars from
the Special Operations Border Foundation. It didn't go as planned.
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That doesn't sit well with us, But we are running
the Triple seven expedition. We have complete control over that.
And when we have that, and we know the way
we plan, diligently plan, the way we put continuously plans
in place, were very confident that we're going to pull
this off. Your goal is too jump in seven continents
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in seven days to raise seven million dollars for education
scholarships for Folds of Honor. How did you come to
know Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney, the founder of Folds of Honor.
Who doesn't know Dan Rooney? I think it is a
better question one. The guy's an impressive individual, from military
to golf. You got to hand it to him for
what he's built. It takes a certain type of personality.
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I could not do what he did. I mean, they've
deployed over two hundred million dollars in scholarships. That's forty
four thousand scholarships. And I'll tell you there's another individual
within Folds of Honor named Larry Robinson. He's the VP
of development, and without him, we would not have been
able to pull off this triple seven. He's believed in US,
He's brought in sponsors, he's definitely, you know, connected, but
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he gets people to yes. And I want people to know.
You know, everyone thought Folds of Honor and they just
changed their charter to include first responder families who are
as deserving as military families, you know, who are on
the front lines every single day trying to protect the
American public. So when they just made that announcement, I
want to say about a month ago. That even sweetened
the pot in the mission and the purpose for us
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even more because we love our police officers, we love
our fireman, we love our ambulance personnel. So we're honored
to be tied and representing the fault of honor family.
You're going to go to Union Glacier Camp in Antarctica,
want to Arena and Chile, Cape Town, South Africa, Perth, Australia,
the United Arab Emirates, Barcelona, Spain, and Tampa, Florida. That
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is one heck of a week, so testament to our planning,
we've eliminated forty hours in the air by switching that up.
We're starting in Antarctica. That's a long pole in the
tent and you have to contend with weather. Then we're
gonna go straight to Santiago, Chile, to Miami, to Barcelona,
to Cairo where we jump over the Pyramids Abu Dhabi
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to jump with our UAE partners in their military to
honor their fahone as well from the war in Yemen.
On to Perth, Australia, and then we're going to come
back to Tampa for an eighth jump. Each of the
jumps is in honor of a fallen soldier in the
Tampa jump in particular sort of a coming home jump
is to honor the Kabul thirteen, those young Marines, the
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sailor and soldier that were killed during the withdrawal in Afghanistan,
and knew something. I'm proud with the guys, all the
guys involved, to include one seventy three year old marine.
He's an old mule and this mule kicks. This guy's
broken multiple world records, lost his wife to cancer, big
time donor to the University Michigan Cancer Hospital, good good Man.
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But they said, none of them want their names on
the two world records. They want the names of the
fallen that we jump in on or of. And I
just I couldn't. I said, we've chosen the right people.
When we got that message from everyone and they were
on board. Dan Rooney has praised you and thank you.
Let me just read one thing that Dan said. We
are grateful to Legacy Expeditions for undertaking the momentous task
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to raise awareness and funds for academic scholarships from military Dependence.
Expeditions clearly understands the importance of an education and those
firsthand how it can benefit the military spouses and children
we serve. So listeners to this podcast, how can they
get involved and donate to the Triple seven Folds of
Honors scholarships. Yeah? Absolutely, So the website is Triple seven
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dot givesmart dot com. So that is the word triple
the number seven Dot givesmart dot com. It'll take you
direct to Folds of Honor. This money is going direct
to Folds of Honor. It does not go to Lagacy expeditions.
We don't want to touch it. To keep everything clean
and to show that one hundred percent of the donations
are going to scholarships. New more than that is. You know,
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seven million is a lofty goal. There are hundreds of
millions of Americans and I just have to believe that
I can get seven million Americans to give one dollar,
maybe five dollars. And if we fall short of that goal,
I don't care about the records. I don't care about
the expeditions. It's not going to sit well with me.
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The other thing I got to tell you why we're
doing this is the American public is at each other's
throats right now and there's just no good stories out there.
So you're gonna watch guys who dedicated their adult lives
to defending our homeland against terrorism, go out and they're
going to try to do something exceptional. It's like, you know,
we're calling it the race for the Moon because twenty
groups have tried this and they've all failed. We just
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want Americans to remember, hey, we're in this together, regardless
of your political beliefs. Follow a group of ten wily,
charismatic Special Operations soldiers again who are all broken, but
say a hell with it. We're going to do this.
We're gonna do this for a good cause. We want
Americans to follow this, and you know, there's got to
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be a point to where we returned to that we
return to that American exceptionalism and this is our small way.
None of us are going to start a world class
business like Amazon. We're not going to do certain things
that a lot of great Americans have done. But we
can control this. And if I can get more veterans
on these trips, it's very very spiritual, and so we are.
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In twenty twenty three, we're going to try to hold
as many skydiving camps for veterans to give them the
gift of flight, to teach them how to skydive to
include amputees, which means specialized rigs, because you know, there's
nothing like jumping out of a plane at thirteen thousand feet.
It's the greatest view in the world, and whatever you're
concerned about goes to the wayside. All you're concerned about
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is following your procedures. And then once you get under
canopy at five thousand feet and you're doing three sixties,
my god, everything seems all the trivial things that we
think are important are seemingly unimportant when you're up there.
Are you on a film these sight jumps? If you've
ever seen the movie The Blair Witch Project, which broke
all indie records for the most part and still stands,
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it was produced and directed by a guy named Dan
Myrick Fate would have it. I connected with Dan through
a great friend named Christian Crample, and so Dan and
Christian are following us across the Seven Continents to film
this and it'll be a docuseries. We're talking to a
couple of streaming platforms right now. But you know, seven days,
when you think about it, it's really going to push
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the limits of human performance because these guys aren't going
to be on airplanes. They're going to jump, which raises
their heart rate, and then they're going to get on
a plane where you don't sleep well for seven days.
So there is serious risk to sleep deprivation in following
your procedures in the next continent when you jump. So
this is not just a private plane where guys are
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laying out plus food. They're not going to have access
to great meals while they're flying from Barcelona to Cairo,
in UAE to Australia. So whoop. The company, the Wristband
Human Performance Company, is collecting data as well as we
have a doctor, a former Navy seal who then became
a doctor, a human performance doctor who's following the team
and collecting data which we're going to give to the
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Special Operations Command free of charge to see if they
can learn anything from international travel and how to dampen
the effects for some of the missions that they I mean,
you looked at the eighty second Airborne it seemed like
in a moment they were activated to go deploy to Afghanistan.
For the withdrawal, that's a long flight. I think that's
eighteen twenty four hours, so you know, if soldiers are
not resting well. In those flights, you know, they're jet
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lagged and they're groggy by the time they land. If
there's some means that we can figure out how to
keep them refreshed and sleep well, then we figure we
might as well collect that DOTA and give it to
the military. When the film is ready to start streaming,
let us know, and will will do everything we can
to publicize it and make sure people are aware of it.
It's a great project, and we will have the link
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to get to donate and to help with the Triple
seven Expedition and with Folds of Honor. That'll be on
our show page. And I want to thank you for
joining me today and talking about your service to our
country and this amazing Triple seven event. In January twenty
twenty three, I encourage all of our listeners to go
to Folds of Honor dot org or Legacy Expeditions dot
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net to find out more about this event and donate
to help veterans and their families scholarships. I wish you well.
In an addition, I want to say thank you to
all of our listeners who are serving our country or
our veterans. We honor you this Veterans Day and every
day because you helped make America free and without you
we would not be safe. So thank you, Mike. I
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thank you for your service, your continued service today. It's
a remarkable commitment to America and I'm very humbled to
have you as a guest. Thank you, sir. If you
would like to help with the project to raise seven
million dollars for scholarships, you can go to Triple seven
dot givesmart dot com. Thank you to my guests, Mike Sarelli.
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On this episode of Newts World this Veterans Day, I
wanted to spend some time talking about a major fundraising
event this January that is designed to bring awareness and
scholarships to veterans and their families through the Folds of
Honor Foundation. As you know, my dad spent twenty seven
years in the Army, and I have a very deep
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commitment to our veterans and that's why I was delighted
to learn that in January of twenty twenty three, Legacy Expeditions,
a veteran owned extreme expedition company, is raising awareness and
inspiring action to support the Folds of Honor Foundation through
their upcoming global expedition Triple seven. The seven day record
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breaking skydiving adventure around the world includes seven skydives across
seven continents in seven days in January twenty twenty three
to raise seven million dollars for scholarships for military veterans
and their families. Here to talk about the Triple seven event,
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I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, who I have
to say is amazingly impressive, Mike Sarelli. He is the
founder and CEO of Legacy Expeditions, former recon Marine and
scout sniper and retired US Naval seal with twenty years
of experience in special operations, including the Elite Joint Special
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Operations Command. He is also the co author of the
best selling book The Talent War, How Special Operations and
great organizations win on Talent. Mike, welcome and thank you
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for joining me on Newts World. I think the fact
that my favorite speaker of the house, and especially my
dad's favorite speaker of the house just called me impressive.
Life is complete. Now retire and give these expeditions up. Well,
I wait, before we get into your career, I just
have to ask you Legacy Expedition does extreme expeditions given
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your background, what does that mean you go back to
Special operations? In Special Operations is a warrior culture, but
it is also you know, you're an extreme athlete in
a lot of ways. So we are all about pushing
the limits of human performance because anything else stunts growth.
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True learning and growth take place when you push yourself
outside your mental in physical comfort zones. And I do
want to reinforce that we're not sociopaths. We do mitigate risk,
following sort of the Special operations military model to the
lowest level that we can. We can never eliminate risk,
but we do everything in our power to make sure
that we're prepared for the expeditions we go on. So
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this is like for the triathlon competitor who wants to
go one stage further. It is and first off, the
most extreme expedition there is is combat. That is the
most extreme thing that you can be engaged in, and
these hail in comparison to that. But I'm one hit
replacement deep. A lot of the guys involved with Legacy Expeditions,
which are all former special operations, are mostly retired. We're
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all one hundred percent disabled, total and permanent. But to
think that we're just going to sit on a porch
in a rocking chair, you've lost your mind. We feel
it's our duty to continue pushing the limits, to set
the example for other veterans getting out. But also, you know,
to us, it's a return to American exceptionalism. We're trying
to live out. You know Teddy Roosevelt's path that he
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laid before us. Man, that guy was always going into nature,
always always learning, always always sharpening his blood. I've been
with several veterans programs that are oriented to people who
have permanent significant disabilities, and they turn them into capabilities
rather than disabilities. And I always think for all these
civilians who are sitting around whining, if they could get
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a little bit of the spirit of the folks who
just get up every morning and make it happen no
matter what. You must have had that very early, because,
as I understand it, you and list of the Marine
Corps right after high school? Why did you decide to join?
You know what's funny is I come from one We're
a Bara family. Our family has been in the San
Francisco area since eighteen ninety nine. Roman Catholic, conservative family,
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fiscally conservative, socially moderate. And I grew up in a
town called Atherton, which I'm sure you're familiar with. It
was one of the most affluent towns. So my dad
came from very little as well as my mom, and
you know, they did very well for themselves. But my
dad built his company up and he made sure for
his two sons and his daughter that we knew we
were not inheriting that company, that he wanted us to
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blaze our own trail. And I hate to say it,
but it is what it is. Atherton and Powell too,
are very entitled areas and there's a lot of generational wealth,
and we didn't come from generational wealth. But my dad
always bred us to look at the up side a risk,
not to see risk and be scared, but to see
risk and smile because this is, you know, as we
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would say, this is the land of opportunity. An opportunity
is what you make of it. So when everyone else
was going off to Ivy League schools or colleges, I
think I ruined the streak. From my high school, which
was Bellarmine College Preparatory at Jesuity to high school where
pretty much everyone goes to college. I broke the streak
and enlisted in the Marine Corps. And it was the
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best move I've ever made. I mean, there's a reason
INC magazine called the Marine Corps the best business management
NBA there is. He then an effect went to college
because you were selected for the highly competitive Marine Enlistening
Commissioning Education program and you've got a bachelor's degree in
business administration from Texas A and now. So from San
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Francisco to Texas A and m through the Marine Corps
is quite a journey, I'll tell you. As a sergeant.
I had very little money when I flew to Texas
A and M for the first time. It was a
culture shock, but you know, I enjoyed it. I finished
college in three years because the ward kicked off. Texas
M is definitely a strong culture. And tomorrow I'm speaking
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to the entire Naval rotc at texasan M, the coure
cadets for Veterans Day on leadership. So I'm humbled. I
think actually, age culture is almost as strong as marine culture.
So somebody who has both of them, it's a kind
of culture nobody at Harvard understands. So then you got
a degree, you're an officer. You then go in the
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Basic Underwater Demolition Seal training, which itself is a form
of extreme adventure. What was that like? You know what?
To say that Basic Underwater Demolation school is an extreme
sport is not doing justice to it. You are pushing
the limits of the mind. And given the attrition rates
of anywhere from eighteen to ninety percent, I think that
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speaks for itself. I mean, we've seen classes start with
two hundred and fifty students and only eight graduate. But
I will say this new I was so to be
a Marine, and the Marine laid the foundation. I was
not a focused kid. You know. I had capacity, I
had capability. I just wasn't tapping into it. So when
I went to seal training, I'm already a sergeant in
the Marine Corps. I'm a recon marine, I'm a scout sniper.
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And in fact, one of my officers looked at me
and he said, hey, Mike, just gonna give you a
word of advice, and I said, yes, certain, he was
a mentor. He said, if you quit, you'll embarrass the
Marine Corps. And I died laughing because there was truth
in what he was saying. He was making a joke.
So there was no way I was going to quit
seal training because I was still representing the Marine Corps.
But that program and I went back for a short
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six months as an instructor at the Basic Underwater Demolition
School is one of the most professionally run programs, and
I know it's been under scrutiny recently because some tear
gas videos came out and there was a student that
passed away recently in training. It is professionally run. We
mitigate risk, we have doctors out there. The statistical rates
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of fatality is extremely low, but you'd never know who's
gonna make it. We've had Olympic medal winning swimmers step
into training, We've had NCAA Division One football players step
in and they're gone within three weeks. And this little
Korean kid from La was in my class who I
thought was passive, little guy, very unassuming, and I thought
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he was going to quit. At the end of hell week,
there was twenty five of us of the two fifty left,
and that kid was standing there. And I would have
never guessed this little, soft spoken Korean kid was going
to make it. You'll like this story. I ended up
at Seal Team three with them. We were both ended
up in the Battle of Vermadi in two thousand and six,
where he was awarded the Silver Star, which I watched this.
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He ran into the street to pull a soldier, an
Iraqi soldier out of the street who was wounded, then
went back to the Battle of Sardar City with me
in two thousand and eight, similar to my pipeline, he
was awarded the Broade Star. There he was selected by
the Navy to get a degree. He finished that degree
a three point nine eight in mathematics at the University
of San Diego, and they were going to send him
back to a seal team, but he said, I'd really
like to become a medical doctor. Ends up at Harvard,
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becomes a Harvard educated doctor, and then after a few
years as a Navy doctor, says, hey, what the hell,
I'll applied for NASA. Out of eighteen thousand applicants, he
was one of twelve selected and all by the age
of thirty four. Astronaut silver Star, a Navy Seal Bronze Star,
a Harvard educated doctor, and his name is doctor Johnny Kim.
And again, any American if they saw all the students
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line up, would have discounted him. But the process shows
it's not about what you look like. It's the heart,
it's the grind, it's the resiliency, it's the drive. The
process weeds the elite out from the chef. That's so extraordinary.
Here's a guy who understands living life to the fullest
and who follows his dream. I think it'll be a
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great story for Americans. Let me give you one more
piece of information. And we didn't know about this until
after a lot of us were retired. Because he kept
this information close. His dad was highly abusive, an alcoholic,
and one night he called the police on his dad,
thinking his dad had left the house. He'd actually went
into the attic and Johnny Kim told the police, hey,
I think my dad is still in the house. And
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ultimately there was a shootout and his dad was killed.
And so he dealt with all this trauma by the
age of eighteen, enlisted in the Navy Seals, and I mean,
the most humble individual. I only hope that a leader
like Johnny Kim, once he gets out of NASSA, steps
up and leads this nation. Somebody's got to write a
book about his life. I mean, that's really remarkable. Part
of your own training program for you is that you
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served as the Seal Junior Officer Training Course director. So
I mean you really understand the process of training people
from the ground up. I will say I only understand
it because of this. It's you know, Isaac Newton said this.
If I've seen further, it's because I've stood on the
shoulders of giants, men and women better than myself. I've
been the product of such great mentors in coaches, from
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my mom and dad to every Marine officer and senior
enlisted or seal officer and senior enlisted I served with,
especially the men to my left and right. I learned
so much from them. You have to as a business leader,
as a government or federal or state leader, as a
military leader, you have to have a passion for developing
those beneath you and around you. And not everyone has
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cut out for that. But I mean, at the end
of the day, you know, I like to call it
the legacy of leadership. A Sealed buddy who wrote the
book called Attributes. He calls it the irony of leadership.
And the best leaders understand this that your job is
not only to drive results, is to create a culture
and uphold standards and accountability, but it's also to create
the next generation of leaders. And we're not doing that
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right now. The fact that we don't have leadership development
training in lower education or higher education is not setting
this nation up for sustained growth. Leadership it is a trait,
It's an attribute. When you have a passion for developing
those below you and you see them start to become
better than you, there's nothing more beautiful. And I only
hope that my legacy when I leave this earth is
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that I left it better off with more leaders than
I found it. I really admire your whole approach, your
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whole philosophy. You know, you had ten combat deployments supporting
the Global War on Terror. You got a silver Star,
six bronze stars for valor, and a purple Heart. And
then when you retire, you become an ambassador for the
Special Operations Warrior Foundation. Tell us a little bit about that.
So this is tied into Legacy Expeditions. One the purposes
Legacy Expedition is twofold. When I talk about legacy, I
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talk about the memory of our fallen, and so few
people know the names of our fallen or can even
tell you the story of just one of the thousands
that were lost in the Global War and Terror. When
I think of the men and women that I served
with it are no longer with us. They are a
shining example from the way they live their lives by
the code, their leadership principles, their traits, their actually utes.
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We want our youth to read these stories and their
legacy is it's important to mean it's important. To Andy Stump,
who's also a retired navycal and co founder of Lacy Expeditions,
the second we stopped telling the story of our fallen.
Their legacies die. Now, the other part of legacy expeditions
is we believe one of the greatest gifts you can
give somebody, if earned, is an education. And so not
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only do we uphold their memories by telling their stories,
but we also try to raise money for the scholarships
of their children, their legacies that they left behind. So
the Special Operations Warrior Foundations specifically funds educational sponsorships for
kids who lost their Special Operations parents in the war,
and then Folds of Honor funds educational scholarships for military
families and first responders. So we predominantly support those organizations
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because they give educations to again the military families and
first responders. You know, it's part of all that. In
twenty twenty, you co wrote the best selling book The
Talent War, How Special Operations and Great Organizations went on Tala.
What led you to write that book? When I was
in the University of Texas mccombs's NBA program, I felt
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guilty that I was getting an MBA towards the end
of my career and all my peers who continued to
serve and go overseas didn't have that opportunity. So with
the help of gentlemen like Admiral Bobbianman, who's the former
de facto director of the CIA, four star Navy Admiral
amazing individual, General Tony Kukolow, Admiral William McRaven, who all assisted,
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we stood up something called the Vetted Foundation, and we
built a called an MBA Light, a two month program
that gives senior military members, both enlisted an officer, the
financial acumen that they lack so they know how to lead,
how to lead in spades. But they just lacked financial acumen, accounting, marketing,
and we gave them those skills and the program was
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highly successful. In fact, the Huffington Post hailed it as
potential to revolutionize the way that veterans exit the military.
We ran into some politics in Texas with the Texas
Veterans Commission, and we got shut down because ultimately we
were trying to build this program so that veterans could
use their GI bill to pay for that two month
executive level course. When it failed, I was devastated, and
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a good business mentor said, hey, Mike, I told you
from the start, make this a for profit entity. He said,
there's something about free enterprise with the exchange of value
that I just didn't understand. I was being driven on altruism.
I listened to him and I started Talent War Group.
And so we started as an executive search firm placing
very great or very good military leaders into small to
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medium sized businesses. But it was not easy to convince
business leaders to accept somebody into their business that didn't
have industry experience. Herb Kelleher, founder of Southwest Airlines, once said,
we hire from mindset, we can train all the rest.
But that is now lost on a lot of business leaders.
I mean World War Two, they hired veterans who had
no industry experience that built the economy we have today.
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It was because of the skills that they had to attributes,
the code, the discipline, and so my co author George Randall,
also a Army officer, in twenty five years in executive
search and HR, we decided to change the system in
another way and the book has become I mean, even
the Marine Corps called us and said we're using this
book as the bible for how we're redesigning in our
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talent management system for the US Marine Corps. We thought
they were joking with us. But business leaders have grabbed
a hold of this and they're transforming the way they hire,
looking at character over experience and understanding that if you
again leadership development, if you put time into the right
person that has all the right attributes, you can turn
them into a effective business leader that stays with you,
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and especially if they demonstrate loyalty. So that's why we
wrote the book is I wanted the ability to touch
business leaders and say, hey, listen, you're overlooking a talent
pool called the veterans who have leadership skills and are unflappable.
Especially in times like COVID when everyone was losing their minds,
veterans were like, this is just another day at war.
We've got this. We know how to make decisions with
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women information. So the process of focusing on character reminds
me of Reverend Martin Luther King Junior's comment that he
hoped that his children would be judged by the content
of their character, not by the color of their skin.
And I think that that most Americans. We did a
poll America's New Majority Project, ninety one percent of the
country agrees with that principle. So there's potentially fertile ground
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out there. For you in educating the country into how
to make it operational. Now the other thing you do
I have to ask you. On August six, twenty ten,
thirty American military servicemen and a US military dog were
killed when a chun A helicopter in a mission entitled
Extortion seventeen was shot down in Afghanistan. It was the
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single largest loss of life to naval special warfare since
the Afghan War started. And in honor of that, over
the course of fifteen days, the Mount Everest Skydiving Expedition
Team conducted five jumps in the highest drop zones in
the world in the Mount Everest region. That must have
been quite an extraordinary trip. It was, and it was
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almost nine months to the day after I had had
my hip replacement, so I was very close with the
Extortion seventeen seals that were on board. I deployed with
him the deployment right before that. In fact, I was
with him the night that Adam Brown was killed. And
there's a book called Fearless about Adam Brown, an amazing
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individual with an amazing story who overcame drug addiction prior
to joining the Navy, which again just reiterates why the
military is such a great pathway for a lot of
young men and women that made lack focus and discipline.
But one of my best friends, Derek Benson, was on board.
I knew all of them well, and that one hit
me really hard. Hit me as hard as you know.
I was on the rooftop with Michael Mansour who jumped
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on a grenade three feet from me to save my life.
He was posthumously, as I said, awarded the Metal of Honor.
I mean, these men and women were just I can't
find the words to do them justice. But we had
an opportunity to go to Mount Everest again push the
limits of human performance by jumping into the highest drop
zones in the world, while upholding the memories of those
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aboard Extortion seventeen. And we raised close to two hundred
thousand four scholarships for the children of two of Extortion seventeen,
which close to twenty five kids were left without their
fathers after that incident. And then this year you did
a skydiving expedition to Iceland in memory of the falling
Special Operations Forces. How many times did you jump in Iceland.
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Let's just say that trip did not go as planned,
just like every military operation or every business operation or
a government program. You have a plan, and sometimes external
factors work against you. We ended up doing four jumps,
which were absolutely beautiful. Of sixteen we were supposed to
do sixteen andy stuff, and I ultimately pulled ourselves off
that trip, which I think shows sound judgment because the
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group that was running it was completely unsafe in a
nept and they'd already hurt three people. And I mean
at the point we were pulling off, they asked us
to start running the expedition, which is similar to the
captain telling you to take hold of the Titanic after
it's already hit the iceberg. So we returned home, but
we did raise about I think thirty thousand dollars from
the Special Operations Border Foundation. It didn't go as planned.
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That doesn't sit well with us, But we are running
the Triple seven expedition. We have complete control over that.
And when we have that, and we know the way
we plan, diligently plan, the way we put continuously plans
in place, were very confident that we're going to pull
this off. Your goal is too jump in seven continents
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in seven days to raise seven million dollars for education
scholarships for Folds of Honor. How did you come to
know Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney, the founder of Folds of Honor.
Who doesn't know Dan Rooney? I think it is a
better question one. The guy's an impressive individual, from military
to golf. You got to hand it to him for
what he's built. It takes a certain type of personality.
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I could not do what he did. I mean, they've
deployed over two hundred million dollars in scholarships. That's forty
four thousand scholarships. And I'll tell you there's another individual
within Folds of Honor named Larry Robinson. He's the VP
of development, and without him, we would not have been
able to pull off this triple seven. He's believed in US,
He's brought in sponsors, he's definitely, you know, connected, but
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he gets people to yes. And I want people to know.
You know, everyone thought Folds of Honor and they just
changed their charter to include first responder families who are
as deserving as military families, you know, who are on
the front lines every single day trying to protect the
American public. So when they just made that announcement, I
want to say about a month ago. That even sweetened
the pot in the mission and the purpose for us
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even more because we love our police officers, we love
our fireman, we love our ambulance personnel. So we're honored
to be tied and representing the fault of honor family.
You're going to go to Union Glacier Camp in Antarctica,
want to Arena and Chile, Cape Town, South Africa, Perth, Australia,
the United Arab Emirates, Barcelona, Spain, and Tampa, Florida. That
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is one heck of a week, so testament to our planning,
we've eliminated forty hours in the air by switching that up.
We're starting in Antarctica. That's a long pole in the
tent and you have to contend with weather. Then we're
gonna go straight to Santiago, Chile, to Miami, to Barcelona,
to Cairo where we jump over the Pyramids Abu Dhabi
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to jump with our UAE partners in their military to
honor their fahone as well from the war in Yemen.
On to Perth, Australia, and then we're going to come
back to Tampa for an eighth jump. Each of the
jumps is in honor of a fallen soldier in the
Tampa jump in particular sort of a coming home jump
is to honor the Kabul thirteen, those young Marines, the
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sailor and soldier that were killed during the withdrawal in Afghanistan,
and knew something. I'm proud with the guys, all the
guys involved, to include one seventy three year old marine.
He's an old mule and this mule kicks. This guy's
broken multiple world records, lost his wife to cancer, big
time donor to the University Michigan Cancer Hospital, good good Man.
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But they said, none of them want their names on
the two world records. They want the names of the
fallen that we jump in on or of. And I
just I couldn't. I said, we've chosen the right people.
When we got that message from everyone and they were
on board. Dan Rooney has praised you and thank you.
Let me just read one thing that Dan said. We
are grateful to Legacy Expeditions for undertaking the momentous task
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to raise awareness and funds for academic scholarships from military Dependence.
Expeditions clearly understands the importance of an education and those
firsthand how it can benefit the military spouses and children
we serve. So listeners to this podcast, how can they
get involved and donate to the Triple seven Folds of
Honors scholarships. Yeah? Absolutely, So the website is Triple seven
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dot givesmart dot com. So that is the word triple
the number seven Dot givesmart dot com. It'll take you
direct to Folds of Honor. This money is going direct
to Folds of Honor. It does not go to Lagacy expeditions.
We don't want to touch it. To keep everything clean
and to show that one hundred percent of the donations
are going to scholarships. New more than that is. You know,
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seven million is a lofty goal. There are hundreds of
millions of Americans and I just have to believe that
I can get seven million Americans to give one dollar,
maybe five dollars. And if we fall short of that goal,
I don't care about the records. I don't care about
the expeditions. It's not going to sit well with me.
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The other thing I got to tell you why we're
doing this is the American public is at each other's
throats right now and there's just no good stories out there.
So you're gonna watch guys who dedicated their adult lives
to defending our homeland against terrorism, go out and they're
going to try to do something exceptional. It's like, you know,
we're calling it the race for the Moon because twenty
groups have tried this and they've all failed. We just
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want Americans to remember, hey, we're in this together, regardless
of your political beliefs. Follow a group of ten wily,
charismatic Special Operations soldiers again who are all broken, but
say a hell with it. We're going to do this.
We're gonna do this for a good cause. We want
Americans to follow this, and you know, there's got to
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be a point to where we returned to that we
return to that American exceptionalism and this is our small way.
None of us are going to start a world class
business like Amazon. We're not going to do certain things
that a lot of great Americans have done. But we
can control this. And if I can get more veterans
on these trips, it's very very spiritual, and so we are.
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In twenty twenty three, we're going to try to hold
as many skydiving camps for veterans to give them the
gift of flight, to teach them how to skydive to
include amputees, which means specialized rigs, because you know, there's
nothing like jumping out of a plane at thirteen thousand feet.
It's the greatest view in the world, and whatever you're
concerned about goes to the wayside. All you're concerned about
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is following your procedures. And then once you get under
canopy at five thousand feet and you're doing three sixties,
my god, everything seems all the trivial things that we
think are important are seemingly unimportant when you're up there.
Are you on a film these sight jumps? If you've
ever seen the movie The Blair Witch Project, which broke
all indie records for the most part and still stands,
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it was produced and directed by a guy named Dan
Myrick Fate would have it. I connected with Dan through
a great friend named Christian Crample, and so Dan and
Christian are following us across the Seven Continents to film
this and it'll be a docuseries. We're talking to a
couple of streaming platforms right now. But you know, seven days,
when you think about it, it's really going to push
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the limits of human performance because these guys aren't going
to be on airplanes. They're going to jump, which raises
their heart rate, and then they're going to get on
a plane where you don't sleep well for seven days.
So there is serious risk to sleep deprivation in following
your procedures in the next continent when you jump. So
this is not just a private plane where guys are
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laying out plus food. They're not going to have access
to great meals while they're flying from Barcelona to Cairo,
in UAE to Australia. So whoop. The company, the Wristband
Human Performance Company, is collecting data as well as we
have a doctor, a former Navy seal who then became
a doctor, a human performance doctor who's following the team
and collecting data which we're going to give to the
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Special Operations Command free of charge to see if they
can learn anything from international travel and how to dampen
the effects for some of the missions that they I mean,
you looked at the eighty second Airborne it seemed like
in a moment they were activated to go deploy to Afghanistan.
For the withdrawal, that's a long flight. I think that's
eighteen twenty four hours, so you know, if soldiers are
not resting well. In those flights, you know, they're jet
(28:07):
lagged and they're groggy by the time they land. If
there's some means that we can figure out how to
keep them refreshed and sleep well, then we figure we
might as well collect that DOTA and give it to
the military. When the film is ready to start streaming,
let us know, and will will do everything we can
to publicize it and make sure people are aware of it.
It's a great project, and we will have the link
(28:28):
to get to donate and to help with the Triple
seven Expedition and with Folds of Honor. That'll be on
our show page. And I want to thank you for
joining me today and talking about your service to our
country and this amazing Triple seven event. In January twenty
twenty three, I encourage all of our listeners to go
to Folds of Honor dot org or Legacy Expeditions dot
(28:48):
net to find out more about this event and donate
to help veterans and their families scholarships. I wish you well.
In an addition, I want to say thank you to
all of our listeners who are serving our country or
our veterans. We honor you this Veterans Day and every
day because you helped make America free and without you
we would not be safe. So thank you, Mike. I
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thank you for your service, your continued service today. It's
a remarkable commitment to America and I'm very humbled to
have you as a guest. Thank you, sir. If you
would like to help with the project to raise seven
million dollars for scholarships, you can go to Triple seven
dot givesmart dot com. Thank you to my guests, Mike Sarelli.
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You can learn more about the Triple seven event for
fulls of honor scholarships on our show page at newtsworld
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