June 8, 2025 • 27 mins
Newt discusses his new book, "Trump's Triumph: America's Greatest Comeback," which is currently ranked number nine in new releases on Amazon. The book explores the extraordinary journey of Donald J. Trump, highlighting his resilience and the movement of the American people. Newt shares insights from his long acquaintance with Trump, detailing the challenges Trump faced, including impeachment efforts, investigations, and attempts to jail him. Newt emphasizes Trump's mandate, his strategic branding, and his ability to connect with the American public, as demonstrated through various public appearances and media engagements. Trump's policy initiatives, such as controlling the border and making America affordable again, are crucial for his presidency's success. Newt calls attention to the 2026 mid-term election as a critical moment for Trump's presidency, with the need to maintain control of the House to continue implementing his reforms. Newt encourages listeners to purchase “Trump’s Triumph” and offers a personalized autograph for those who send their Amazon receipt to book@gingrich360.com
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
In this episode of the News World. I published my
latest book this week, Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, and
I've been talking about it on many news outlets and
podcasts all week, and I'm happy to report at this
time it's number nine in new releases on Amazon. So
I thought I would spend a few minutes telling you
about the book, why I wrote it, and frankly, encourage
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you to get a copy. We actually began thinking about
this in October because I concluded Trump was going to
win and that what we'd lived through was so extraordinary,
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had so many ups and downs, so many surprises, that
putting it in historic context would be really helpful. At
the same time, I thought that there's an underlying big
story about the movement the American people, and that's why
while the title is Trump's Triumph, the subtitle is America's
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Greatest Comeback, because in many ways this was as much
a victory for the American people as it was a
victory for the singular, unique personality of Donald Trump, and
so I wanted to put those together, and we began
working on it in October, basically finished it in late February.
It's the nature of modern book publishing, it takes forever
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to get from the initial draft to the final publication,
and I was very encouraged because we went back and
reviewed it, recognizing how much had happened in the last
five months. And the only two things we missed didn't
occur to us to have a Gulf of America, and
it didn't occur to us to one of annex either
Greenlander Canada. But other than those things, the rest of
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it pretty much fits what we wrote in Trump's Triumph
America's good as Comeback. So I feel pretty good in
sharing with you. I think part of the reason I
was able to write this book in this context is
that I've known Trump for many years. I first met
him when I was speaker in the late nineteen nineties
Clifton I got to know him. We joined Trump National
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and would see him regularly back long before he was
a candidate, and then we first talked to him in
February of twenty fifteen. We were at an event though
National Security in Des Moines, Iowa, and he called. We
were staying in the Marriott downtown, which is a famous
political headquarters, and said, hey, we're all in the same place.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
When we had breakfast.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So Cliston and I joined him in February of twenty fifteen.
Talked about running, and you could tell because we had
run in twenty twelve. He was really curious about what
at a take, how would you do it, et cetera.
And I kind of had the feeling after that date
that he was going to run and paid attention to
him from that point on. So I feel like I've
been studying Trump for about ten years, watching him go
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through the last four years. The loss in twenty twenty,
which I think was a rigged election. I don't think
it was stole on election able. I think clearly the
national establishment did everything it could to stack the deck
to defeat him. I watched him go through two impeachment
efforts by the House to be turned down by the Senate.
I watched the CIA and the FBI lie about him
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and break the law trying to destroy him, a two
year Mueller investigation. The amount of stuff that Trump went
through was amazing. And then at the very low point
in twenty twenty one, it was a period there where
people sort of thought he was gone. But I never
thought that. We knew how tough he was, we knew
how dedicated he was to the country, and frankly, we
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knew how angry he was, and so he began his comeback,
and the comeback was amazing. While Trump goes on stage
to defeat sixteen other Republicans in the twenty sixteen campaign,
he defeats every other Republican in twenty twenty four without
ever once debating them. And this gets to the point
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about the American people and why it was also America's
greatest comeback. Millions and millions of people had decided that
they were for Donald Trump, that Trump was the only
person strong enough, clear enough, courageous enough to stand up
to the Washington establishment and to truly change it. And
these are people going all the way back to Berry
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Goldwater in nineteen sixty four, who really deeply believed that
the establishment was corrupt, that it had a bunch of
left wing, weird values, and that it was trying to
change the country to our worst and in many ways
undermining and weakening America. So this deep sense that the
trump Ism was there and that they were going to
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be for Trump. They didn't care who else ran. They
were for Trump, and they were such a huge majority
that nobody else could get any traction or get involved. Now,
I'd gotten involved with the American First Policy Institute, which
had been founded by Rook Rollins, who's now the Secretary
of Agriculture, and by Linda McMahon, who's now the Secretary
of Education, and it gathered up about four hundred people
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who had worked for Trump and who network together to
spend the four years in the wilderness laying out the
pattern for where we're going and how we're going to
get there. And it was very interesting to me to
watch all of these really smart people who, unlike a
lot of the think tanks, they weren't writing in theory.
They were looking at a very practical level of how
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would you get this done? And that's why when Trump
did finally win, they had such a huge opportunity to
change things so rapidly because they'd spent four years laying
the base for it. Now, a couple of chapters I
want to talk about in the book that will fit this.
One of them is the Trump Mandate, and I think
it's important to understand that Trump it was an unusual
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position that he ran very clearly on what he was
going to do. He said he was going to close
the border and he meant it. He said that he
was going to take on bad trade policy and move
towards using tariffs, and he meant it. He said consistently
that he was against boys playing in girls' sports, and
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he meant it. He was consistently in favor of merit
and against group identity. When you go back and you look,
I think he made fifty seven videos on different policies.
If you look at the platform that was adopted in
Milwaukee in the summer of twenty twenty four, it's relatively short,
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it's very specific, and it grows directly out of the
America First Policy Institute and directly out of Trump's personal speeches.
And he's telling the country upfront, if this is what
you want, vote for me, but don't be surprised if
you vote for me when I do the things I'm
telling you. So I think from that standpoint, he really
did feel when he won that he had a mandate.
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Now he particularly felt he had a mandate because he
carried all seven of the swing states and because he
had two and a half million more votes than Kamala, which,
given the weight of California voting, his remarkable. It's very
hard for a Republican to win the total national vote
because California is so one sided and so big. But
in this particular campaign, he did now notice when he accomplished,
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and this is part of why it really is a triumph.
First he knocks out the presidented States, Biden is gone.
Then he pivots and he defeats the Vice presidented States,
who by the way, had twice as much money as
he did. That gives you a sense of a mandate.
Nobody in American history had ever defeated two major candidates
in one year, but Trump did. And I think that's
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why he really felt that when he got elected, he
was here for a purpose, and the American people had
endorsed that purpose, and he was going to act starting
on day one with executive orders and with proposed legisation
and so forth. And so you've seen, I think, even
more than Franklin Roosevelt in nineteen thirty three, you've seen
a remarkably aggressive and active president who from day one
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has been changing things and has been really imposing in
a serious kind of way where he wants to go
and how he wants to change the national establishment. And
so I think chapter three, which is entitled the Trump
mandate really lays out how Trump uses branding, how he
develops things. Remember this is a guy who for thirteen
years had The Apprentice on NBC, so he understands how
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to talk to the average American and understands how to
have a popular TV show. He had made his entire
career out of branding things with Trump Tower and Trump
Golf Courses and you name it. And so he's really
quite remarkable and different. I always tell people part of
him is a void villian. He's back to the old
days of vaudeville. He loves getting up in front of
fifty thousand people and doing things that are effective. It's
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a rule that Russe Limbaugh had you had to entertain
people before you could educate him, because if you couldn't
entertain him, you couldn't keep their attention to educate them. Well,
Trump really understands that better than any political candidate I've
ever seen. And that's why if you go to one
of his rallies, the whole thing is a continuous experience.
The big final rally in Madison Square Garden, it was
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just amazing. It was like being at Barnum and Baylevan.
There was something going on all the time, and there
was a very wide range of people speaking, including for example,
a Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who up until then had
been a Democrat and clearly brought his make America Healthy
Again policies into the Republican Party. And now you know
the Secretary of Health and Human Services. So all of
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these things are going on, and Trump has an instinct
for them, and that's part of how he ended up
getting the mandate, because he's just an interesting guy. Now.
The other thing to remember, as he's going through this,
while he's earning a mandate, the opposition is really ferocious.
I mean there are four different attempts put him in jail,
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not just to sue him, but literally to go out
to try to see if they can get him convicted
and put.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Him in jail.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There was a key moment, I think when he went
into the Fulton County Sheriff's office and they wanted to
get a mug shot, and what they got was a
very aggressive, very determined picture, which itself became sort of
symbolic of Trump and which showed up on all sorts
of barbershop walls and became a real symbol of his
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toughness and the fact that you couldn't wear him out
and you couldn't break him down. He then went on
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to what I think was probably in some ways a
case study will be made some day. Here's the vice
president is out raising tons of money. I mean, the
whole national establishment, the left convinces itself that she can win,
and I think they pour literally a billion dollars in
in nine weeks. She has twice as much money as Trump.
But Trump does three things that more than offset the
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money she's raising. First, he goes on Joe Rogan, the
most popular podcast in the world, spends three hours talking.
She does not go on Rogan. She won't go to Boston,
Texas to record, which is where he does it. The
truth is she couldn't have handled three hours of talking
with Joe Rogan if her life depends on it. So
Trump gets all of this free entertainment. He's out there
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all across the audiences. People are writing about it, talking
about it in hand. Of course, if you like Rogan,
and I think from Trump's case, it was like sixty
million listeners three hours of free time, which would cost
an amazing amount of money to buy. Then Trump decides
he's going to go to a McDonald's and hand out
French fries. Now, the genius in this is, remember eighty
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seven percent of the country goes to McDonald's at least
once a year, eighty seven percent. Furthermore, forty million Americans,
including Jeff Bezos, worked at McDonald's at one time or another.
So Trump has picked probably as clear a symbol of
everyday Americans as you could get. And think about the
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sheer volume of coverage she gets. I mean, every network
has Trump handing out French fries, their stories beforehand, their
stories while he's doing it, their stories afterwards. You can't
buy this kind of publicity. And then to finally cap
it all off, Joe Biden says that Trump's supporters are
garbage and the immediate result is that Trump's team finds
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a garbage truck puts a Trump sign on it. Trump
gets on the truck with of course the whole National
Press Corps taking pictures. And then, as an example of
his genius as an entertainer, he goes into his hall
with fifty thousand people wearing the very colorful vest that
was being worn in Milwaukee by garbage collectors, and he
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says to the audis with a sort of a twinkle.
They tell me, I look thinner if I wear this,
Maybe I should campaign the rest of the collection wearing
this vest. Well, it's a stick, but it's a beautifully
done stick. So here you have three examples in a
row where Trump he's getting more penetration, he's getting more
free time, and he's doing it looking very human and
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not very wooden. Meanwhile, as we now know, you have
Kamala Harris paying people to endorse her two million dollars
here three million dollars, I means pretty pathetic if you
think about it, and she's not getting any traction anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So Trump does.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Win with the mandate. Now he then moves immediately to
control the border, and in the first thirty days they
reduce people being released in the United States by ninety
nine point nine percent in the first thirty days. It's
one of the most amazing turnarounds I've ever seen, and
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I thought it was just an astonishing achievement. At that point,
having me und to solve the border, Trump shifts to
what I think will be the most important test of
his presidency, which I cover in chapter five, making America
affordable again. The key here is that the price of
living was really driving people crazy. Biden clearly didn't have
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a clue how to get it under control. People really
were very worried about the cost of gasoline, the cost
of food, the cost of electricity, and so Trump had
to arrive and really focus on making America affordable again.
And in chapter five I outline all the steps they're taking,
which includes dramatically expanding the production of energy to bring
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down energy prices and energy prices ultimately work their way
through the whole economy. It also includes passing the One
Big Beautiful Bill, which is still, as you know, being
worked on, but they've made huge progress and I think
there within thirty to forty days of getting it done.
It includes what he's doing with tariffs, where he is
really trying to rebalance the trade relationship with all these countries.
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But clearly Trump understands that if he can create enough jobs,
stabilize the currency, have people have more money in their pocketbook,
the things will really be rolling in the right direction,
and that will help him and probably the key critical
test of his presidency, which is winning in twenty twenty six.
If he wins in twenty twenty six, he will continue
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to move forward continue to pass reforms, continue to change Washington.
But if the Democrats win the House in twenty six
we'll be right back to Nancy Pelosi again. We'll have obstruction,
we'll have hearings, we'll have investigations, we will have impeachments.
So the twenty sixth election becomes one of the great
key moments in the Trump experience. He has to get
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this bill through because they have to have the economy growing,
They have to be producing enough goods and services to
bring down prices, and that requires passing the one big,
beautiful bill. The other place where I'm really delighted, and
I devote chapter nine to talking about this is health
and healthcare. Along comes Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and the
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whole concept of MAHA, Make America Healthy Again really begins
to catch on and attracts a lot of people who
would not have been part of a traditional Republican coalition,
but who do believe that we've gone down the wrong
track in that far too many Americans are sick and
that we need to do something to help everybody have
a better future. I was very privileged. I was at
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the White House announcement of Make America Healthy again's Report
on Children's Health, and it was great to be there
with the President and with Secretary of Kennedy and the
entire cabinet, and in many ways for me personally, it
was a real building block from the book I had
written back in two thousand and three because it almost
exactly the same core issues. I recommend everybody to go
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to the White House website and get a copy of
the MAHA Report on Children. It will truly stun you.
Certainly sobered me up because we have so many five
year olds who are obese, which means when they grow up,
they'll be obese, which means they'll probably have diabetes, they
may well have heart conditions, all sorts of bad things.
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And we have a sick care system which is really
very sophisticated if you are sick, but it doesn't try
to keep you healthy. And what we need is a
health care system which focuses on doing whatever is necessary
in order for us to avoid having to pay for things. Now,
when you realize that healthcare today is about eighteen percent
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of the economy, literally almost one out of every five
dollars in our economy relates to healthcare. If you can,
in fact do what Secretary Robert Kennedy's talking about and
do what President Trump is wet talking about, which is
to have a system that focuses on keeping people healthy.
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You could conceivably take at least four percent of the
gross domestic product out of the cost of health care,
which is currently at about eighteen percent. That change, not
cutting healthcare, not cutting spending, not going in and trying
to micromanage, but simply keeping people healthy so they don't
need to spend the money because they're not sick. That
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change would do more to balance the federal budget than
any other single change. And that's why I think if
you look at chapter nine, which is called the Enormous
Challenge of Health and Healthcare in America, it will really
give you a flavor of where they're trying to go,
why they're trying to go there, how really important this is,
and how much it could dramatically save the lives of
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people and improve their lives, but at the same time,
how it could also have a big impact on the
fiscal side, so you both get to save lives and
save money.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Precisely my book title, Let's Look.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Forward, The election of twenty twenty six will be an
enormous challenge for President Trump and for the entire MAGA movement.
The House is very close, and keeping the House is
at the heart of our ability to continue the changes
that Trump campaigned on and that the American people voted for.
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At the same time, the Senate has a fairly narrow
margin fifty three to forty seven, but the odds are
pretty good we'll pick up one or two seats, and
so I'm not as worried about losing the Senate. I
think we'll keep the Senate, but the House is a
real challenge now. The good news is we do know
historically that the party in the White House can gain seats.
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In nineteen thirty, Franklin Roosevelt's party gained nine seats in
the House and nine seats in the Senate. In nineteen
ninety eight, President Clinton's party gained five seats in the
House and the Senate stayed the same, no loss or gain.
In two thousand and two, George W. Bush's party gained
eight seats in the House and two seats in the Senate,
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so we know it's possible. We also know that in
the current makeup there are thirteen Democrats in districts that
Trump carried and another twenty one Democrats in districts for
Trump came within five percent. So if we continue to
do well, if we can pass the Big Beautiful Bill,
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if we could have a Trump boom by the summer
of twenty twenty six, if Democrats continued to find themselves
as the Obama Biden party of radicalism, corruption and dishonesty,
I think it's very possible we're going to win. The
key is going to be to convince people who normally
don't vote in an off year that they have to
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go vote if they don't want to have the Obama
Biden machine take control of Washing again. And reaching those
people who are for Trump. They're not necessarily a Republican
and they don't normally vote except in presidential years. Convincing
them to turn out may be the absolute key to
whether or not we maintain our majority. It's a huge,
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huge moment. I tried in Trump's Triumph America's Greatest Comeback
to lay out why I'm an optimist. I think it's
very likely we're going to succeed. I think we're likely
to have a better government, a better economy, to have
more spending money in our pockets and more jobs available,
and I think we're likely to have basically solved the
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immigration crisis, and people, I think are going to feel
pretty good that we're moving the right direction. Was very
striking to me. The other day then Rasmussen Polling came
out and said that for the very first time in
the history of the poll, fifty percent of Americans thought
we were on the right track. They had never ever
gotten to fifty percent saying we're on the right track,
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and the heat of the Rasmussen poll said he was
shocked that he, frankly had concluded we would never get
a majority of Americans to say we're on the right track.
I think we're going to continue down that road. We're
going to continue to have people say, you know, this
is working, and it is a system that we really
want to have strengthened and we want to continue to
build on. Now, there are some really big challenges. There's
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the challenge of dealing with Putin and Russia and its
offensive war against Ukraine. There's the challenge of Gaza and Hamas,
which continues still to insist that its idea of peace
is not a single Jew will remain in Israel. There's
the challenge of dealing with the Iranians who chant death
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to Israel and death to America, and who's dictator the
Ayatola Hameni. I went on television a few weeks ago
and said, I want to reassure all of you that
when we say death to America, this is not a slogan.
This is our policy, which as if you think about it,
pretty sobering and pretty scary thing to think. So the
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president has some significant foreign policy challenges. He's also going
to have a huge amount of negotiating with countries around
the world on tariffs and frankly, even more important than tariffs,
non trade barriers that some of these countries raise where
you just can't sell American products no matter what. That's
going to be very tedious, very cumbersome, probably going to
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have something like ninety countries being negotiated with, and that's
going to be a long running story. It's not going
to end overnight. But it is the intelligent use of
the American market, which is the largest market in the world,
to say to countries that if you want access to
our market, you're going to have to quit cheating us.
And I think in that sense, the more people understand it,
the more they will infect be in favor of what
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the president's doing. And then, of course, finally he faces
the challenge of China. China is the only potential peer
compared in the world today. It is a huge country.
It's actually shrinking, by the way, It's going to be
much smaller over the next generation because they're one child policy.
I don't think they ever thought this through, But if
you have a one child policy, that means that in
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the next generation you only have half as many adults
as you had in the last generation. Well, that's now
really coming home in a big way, and it's conceivable
that China will actually shrink until it is a little
bit smaller than the United States by late in this century.
We continue to gain, they continue to get smaller. But
managing the Chinese relationship is much more important in the
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long run than managing the Russian relationship. And so President
Trump does have a series of I think, very significant challenges.
At the same time, we have enormous opportunities. We're beginning
to take off in artificial intelligence, we begin to take
off in robotics, We're being to take off in our
understanding of biology and the degree which we can cure diseases.
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And extend life in ways that would seem almost like
magic or science fiction if we didn't actually see them
happening in front of our very eyes. I think that
we have a chance to give our children and grandchildren
a dramatically better country with a remarkable future of what
Trump is called a Golden Age. And I think he
may be right. I think that by any human standard,
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this is possibly going to be one of the great
periods of invention, one of the great periods of development
in American history and in human history. And a good
bit of it will come because of the kind of
driving entrepreneurial spirit that Donald Trump has. Remember just a
few weeks ago he went to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and
the UAE, and in four short days he got a
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trillion dollars, not a billion, a trillion dollars in orders
for American goods and a trillion dollars committed to being
invested in the United States. Now, those kind of things
are going to grow the economy, create jobs, raise the
standard of living, and give all of us a dramatically
better future. And I have every reasonablieve, and this is
why I wrote Trump's Triumph America's Greatest Comeback. I have
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every reasonablieve that he gets it, that he's going to
make it work, and that it's going to be just
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In this episode of the News World. I published my
latest book this week, Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, and
I've been talking about it on many news outlets and
podcasts all week, and I'm happy to report at this
time it's number nine in new releases on Amazon. So
I thought I would spend a few minutes telling you
about the book, why I wrote it, and frankly, encourage
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you to get a copy. We actually began thinking about
this in October because I concluded Trump was going to
win and that what we'd lived through was so extraordinary,
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had so many ups and downs, so many surprises, that
putting it in historic context would be really helpful. At
the same time, I thought that there's an underlying big
story about the movement the American people, and that's why
while the title is Trump's Triumph, the subtitle is America's
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Greatest Comeback, because in many ways this was as much
a victory for the American people as it was a
victory for the singular, unique personality of Donald Trump, and
so I wanted to put those together, and we began
working on it in October, basically finished it in late February.
It's the nature of modern book publishing, it takes forever
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to get from the initial draft to the final publication,
and I was very encouraged because we went back and
reviewed it, recognizing how much had happened in the last
five months. And the only two things we missed didn't
occur to us to have a Gulf of America, and
it didn't occur to us to one of annex either
Greenlander Canada. But other than those things, the rest of
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it pretty much fits what we wrote in Trump's Triumph
America's good as Comeback. So I feel pretty good in
sharing with you. I think part of the reason I
was able to write this book in this context is
that I've known Trump for many years. I first met
him when I was speaker in the late nineteen nineties
Clifton I got to know him. We joined Trump National
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and would see him regularly back long before he was
a candidate, and then we first talked to him in
February of twenty fifteen. We were at an event though
National Security in Des Moines, Iowa, and he called. We
were staying in the Marriott downtown, which is a famous
political headquarters, and said, hey, we're all in the same place.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
When we had breakfast.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So Cliston and I joined him in February of twenty fifteen.
Talked about running, and you could tell because we had
run in twenty twelve. He was really curious about what
at a take, how would you do it, et cetera.
And I kind of had the feeling after that date
that he was going to run and paid attention to
him from that point on. So I feel like I've
been studying Trump for about ten years, watching him go
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through the last four years. The loss in twenty twenty,
which I think was a rigged election. I don't think
it was stole on election able. I think clearly the
national establishment did everything it could to stack the deck
to defeat him. I watched him go through two impeachment
efforts by the House to be turned down by the Senate.
I watched the CIA and the FBI lie about him
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and break the law trying to destroy him, a two
year Mueller investigation. The amount of stuff that Trump went
through was amazing. And then at the very low point
in twenty twenty one, it was a period there where
people sort of thought he was gone. But I never
thought that. We knew how tough he was, we knew
how dedicated he was to the country, and frankly, we
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knew how angry he was, and so he began his comeback,
and the comeback was amazing. While Trump goes on stage
to defeat sixteen other Republicans in the twenty sixteen campaign,
he defeats every other Republican in twenty twenty four without
ever once debating them. And this gets to the point
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about the American people and why it was also America's
greatest comeback. Millions and millions of people had decided that
they were for Donald Trump, that Trump was the only
person strong enough, clear enough, courageous enough to stand up
to the Washington establishment and to truly change it. And
these are people going all the way back to Berry
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Goldwater in nineteen sixty four, who really deeply believed that
the establishment was corrupt, that it had a bunch of
left wing, weird values, and that it was trying to
change the country to our worst and in many ways
undermining and weakening America. So this deep sense that the
trump Ism was there and that they were going to
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be for Trump. They didn't care who else ran. They
were for Trump, and they were such a huge majority
that nobody else could get any traction or get involved. Now,
I'd gotten involved with the American First Policy Institute, which
had been founded by Rook Rollins, who's now the Secretary
of Agriculture, and by Linda McMahon, who's now the Secretary
of Education, and it gathered up about four hundred people
(05:15):
who had worked for Trump and who network together to
spend the four years in the wilderness laying out the
pattern for where we're going and how we're going to
get there. And it was very interesting to me to
watch all of these really smart people who, unlike a
lot of the think tanks, they weren't writing in theory.
They were looking at a very practical level of how
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would you get this done? And that's why when Trump
did finally win, they had such a huge opportunity to
change things so rapidly because they'd spent four years laying
the base for it. Now, a couple of chapters I
want to talk about in the book that will fit this.
One of them is the Trump Mandate, and I think
it's important to understand that Trump it was an unusual
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position that he ran very clearly on what he was
going to do. He said he was going to close
the border and he meant it. He said that he
was going to take on bad trade policy and move
towards using tariffs, and he meant it. He said consistently
that he was against boys playing in girls' sports, and
(06:21):
he meant it. He was consistently in favor of merit
and against group identity. When you go back and you look,
I think he made fifty seven videos on different policies.
If you look at the platform that was adopted in
Milwaukee in the summer of twenty twenty four, it's relatively short,
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it's very specific, and it grows directly out of the
America First Policy Institute and directly out of Trump's personal speeches.
And he's telling the country upfront, if this is what
you want, vote for me, but don't be surprised if
you vote for me when I do the things I'm
telling you. So I think from that standpoint, he really
did feel when he won that he had a mandate.
(07:02):
Now he particularly felt he had a mandate because he
carried all seven of the swing states and because he
had two and a half million more votes than Kamala, which,
given the weight of California voting, his remarkable. It's very
hard for a Republican to win the total national vote
because California is so one sided and so big. But
in this particular campaign, he did now notice when he accomplished,
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and this is part of why it really is a triumph.
First he knocks out the presidented States, Biden is gone.
Then he pivots and he defeats the Vice presidented States,
who by the way, had twice as much money as
he did. That gives you a sense of a mandate.
Nobody in American history had ever defeated two major candidates
in one year, but Trump did. And I think that's
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why he really felt that when he got elected, he
was here for a purpose, and the American people had
endorsed that purpose, and he was going to act starting
on day one with executive orders and with proposed legisation
and so forth. And so you've seen, I think, even
more than Franklin Roosevelt in nineteen thirty three, you've seen
a remarkably aggressive and active president who from day one
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has been changing things and has been really imposing in
a serious kind of way where he wants to go
and how he wants to change the national establishment. And
so I think chapter three, which is entitled the Trump
mandate really lays out how Trump uses branding, how he
develops things. Remember this is a guy who for thirteen
years had The Apprentice on NBC, so he understands how
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to talk to the average American and understands how to
have a popular TV show. He had made his entire
career out of branding things with Trump Tower and Trump
Golf Courses and you name it. And so he's really
quite remarkable and different. I always tell people part of
him is a void villian. He's back to the old
days of vaudeville. He loves getting up in front of
fifty thousand people and doing things that are effective. It's
(09:00):
a rule that Russe Limbaugh had you had to entertain
people before you could educate him, because if you couldn't
entertain him, you couldn't keep their attention to educate them. Well,
Trump really understands that better than any political candidate I've
ever seen. And that's why if you go to one
of his rallies, the whole thing is a continuous experience.
The big final rally in Madison Square Garden, it was
(09:20):
just amazing. It was like being at Barnum and Baylevan.
There was something going on all the time, and there
was a very wide range of people speaking, including for example,
a Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who up until then had
been a Democrat and clearly brought his make America Healthy
Again policies into the Republican Party. And now you know
the Secretary of Health and Human Services. So all of
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these things are going on, and Trump has an instinct
for them, and that's part of how he ended up
getting the mandate, because he's just an interesting guy. Now.
The other thing to remember, as he's going through this,
while he's earning a mandate, the opposition is really ferocious.
I mean there are four different attempts put him in jail,
(10:01):
not just to sue him, but literally to go out
to try to see if they can get him convicted
and put.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Him in jail.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There was a key moment, I think when he went
into the Fulton County Sheriff's office and they wanted to
get a mug shot, and what they got was a
very aggressive, very determined picture, which itself became sort of
symbolic of Trump and which showed up on all sorts
of barbershop walls and became a real symbol of his
(10:27):
toughness and the fact that you couldn't wear him out
and you couldn't break him down. He then went on
(10:48):
to what I think was probably in some ways a
case study will be made some day. Here's the vice
president is out raising tons of money. I mean, the
whole national establishment, the left convinces itself that she can win,
and I think they pour literally a billion dollars in
in nine weeks. She has twice as much money as Trump.
But Trump does three things that more than offset the
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money she's raising. First, he goes on Joe Rogan, the
most popular podcast in the world, spends three hours talking.
She does not go on Rogan. She won't go to Boston,
Texas to record, which is where he does it. The
truth is she couldn't have handled three hours of talking
with Joe Rogan if her life depends on it. So
Trump gets all of this free entertainment. He's out there
(11:33):
all across the audiences. People are writing about it, talking
about it in hand. Of course, if you like Rogan,
and I think from Trump's case, it was like sixty
million listeners three hours of free time, which would cost
an amazing amount of money to buy. Then Trump decides
he's going to go to a McDonald's and hand out
French fries. Now, the genius in this is, remember eighty
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seven percent of the country goes to McDonald's at least
once a year, eighty seven percent. Furthermore, forty million Americans,
including Jeff Bezos, worked at McDonald's at one time or another.
So Trump has picked probably as clear a symbol of
everyday Americans as you could get. And think about the
(12:15):
sheer volume of coverage she gets. I mean, every network
has Trump handing out French fries, their stories beforehand, their
stories while he's doing it, their stories afterwards. You can't
buy this kind of publicity. And then to finally cap
it all off, Joe Biden says that Trump's supporters are
garbage and the immediate result is that Trump's team finds
(12:38):
a garbage truck puts a Trump sign on it. Trump
gets on the truck with of course the whole National
Press Corps taking pictures. And then, as an example of
his genius as an entertainer, he goes into his hall
with fifty thousand people wearing the very colorful vest that
was being worn in Milwaukee by garbage collectors, and he
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says to the audis with a sort of a twinkle.
They tell me, I look thinner if I wear this,
Maybe I should campaign the rest of the collection wearing
this vest. Well, it's a stick, but it's a beautifully
done stick. So here you have three examples in a
row where Trump he's getting more penetration, he's getting more
free time, and he's doing it looking very human and
(13:19):
not very wooden. Meanwhile, as we now know, you have
Kamala Harris paying people to endorse her two million dollars
here three million dollars, I means pretty pathetic if you
think about it, and she's not getting any traction anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So Trump does.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Win with the mandate. Now he then moves immediately to
control the border, and in the first thirty days they
reduce people being released in the United States by ninety
nine point nine percent in the first thirty days. It's
one of the most amazing turnarounds I've ever seen, and
(13:55):
I thought it was just an astonishing achievement. At that point,
having me und to solve the border, Trump shifts to
what I think will be the most important test of
his presidency, which I cover in chapter five, making America
affordable again. The key here is that the price of
living was really driving people crazy. Biden clearly didn't have
(14:19):
a clue how to get it under control. People really
were very worried about the cost of gasoline, the cost
of food, the cost of electricity, and so Trump had
to arrive and really focus on making America affordable again.
And in chapter five I outline all the steps they're taking,
which includes dramatically expanding the production of energy to bring
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down energy prices and energy prices ultimately work their way
through the whole economy. It also includes passing the One
Big Beautiful Bill, which is still, as you know, being
worked on, but they've made huge progress and I think
there within thirty to forty days of getting it done.
It includes what he's doing with tariffs, where he is
really trying to rebalance the trade relationship with all these countries.
(15:03):
But clearly Trump understands that if he can create enough jobs,
stabilize the currency, have people have more money in their pocketbook,
the things will really be rolling in the right direction,
and that will help him and probably the key critical
test of his presidency, which is winning in twenty twenty six.
If he wins in twenty twenty six, he will continue
(15:25):
to move forward continue to pass reforms, continue to change Washington.
But if the Democrats win the House in twenty six
we'll be right back to Nancy Pelosi again. We'll have obstruction,
we'll have hearings, we'll have investigations, we will have impeachments.
So the twenty sixth election becomes one of the great
key moments in the Trump experience. He has to get
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this bill through because they have to have the economy growing,
They have to be producing enough goods and services to
bring down prices, and that requires passing the one big,
beautiful bill. The other place where I'm really delighted, and
I devote chapter nine to talking about this is health
and healthcare. Along comes Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and the
(16:10):
whole concept of MAHA, Make America Healthy Again really begins
to catch on and attracts a lot of people who
would not have been part of a traditional Republican coalition,
but who do believe that we've gone down the wrong
track in that far too many Americans are sick and
that we need to do something to help everybody have
a better future. I was very privileged. I was at
(16:32):
the White House announcement of Make America Healthy again's Report
on Children's Health, and it was great to be there
with the President and with Secretary of Kennedy and the
entire cabinet, and in many ways for me personally, it
was a real building block from the book I had
written back in two thousand and three because it almost
exactly the same core issues. I recommend everybody to go
(16:56):
to the White House website and get a copy of
the MAHA Report on Children. It will truly stun you.
Certainly sobered me up because we have so many five
year olds who are obese, which means when they grow up,
they'll be obese, which means they'll probably have diabetes, they
may well have heart conditions, all sorts of bad things.
(17:18):
And we have a sick care system which is really
very sophisticated if you are sick, but it doesn't try
to keep you healthy. And what we need is a
health care system which focuses on doing whatever is necessary
in order for us to avoid having to pay for things. Now,
when you realize that healthcare today is about eighteen percent
(17:40):
of the economy, literally almost one out of every five
dollars in our economy relates to healthcare. If you can,
in fact do what Secretary Robert Kennedy's talking about and
do what President Trump is wet talking about, which is
to have a system that focuses on keeping people healthy.
(18:00):
You could conceivably take at least four percent of the
gross domestic product out of the cost of health care,
which is currently at about eighteen percent. That change, not
cutting healthcare, not cutting spending, not going in and trying
to micromanage, but simply keeping people healthy so they don't
need to spend the money because they're not sick. That
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change would do more to balance the federal budget than
any other single change. And that's why I think if
you look at chapter nine, which is called the Enormous
Challenge of Health and Healthcare in America, it will really
give you a flavor of where they're trying to go,
why they're trying to go there, how really important this is,
and how much it could dramatically save the lives of
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people and improve their lives, but at the same time,
how it could also have a big impact on the
fiscal side, so you both get to save lives and
save money.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Precisely my book title, Let's Look.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Forward, The election of twenty twenty six will be an
enormous challenge for President Trump and for the entire MAGA movement.
The House is very close, and keeping the House is
at the heart of our ability to continue the changes
that Trump campaigned on and that the American people voted for.
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At the same time, the Senate has a fairly narrow
margin fifty three to forty seven, but the odds are
pretty good we'll pick up one or two seats, and
so I'm not as worried about losing the Senate. I
think we'll keep the Senate, but the House is a
real challenge now. The good news is we do know
historically that the party in the White House can gain seats.
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In nineteen thirty, Franklin Roosevelt's party gained nine seats in
the House and nine seats in the Senate. In nineteen
ninety eight, President Clinton's party gained five seats in the
House and the Senate stayed the same, no loss or gain.
In two thousand and two, George W. Bush's party gained
eight seats in the House and two seats in the Senate,
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so we know it's possible. We also know that in
the current makeup there are thirteen Democrats in districts that
Trump carried and another twenty one Democrats in districts for
Trump came within five percent. So if we continue to
do well, if we can pass the Big Beautiful Bill,
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if we could have a Trump boom by the summer
of twenty twenty six, if Democrats continued to find themselves
as the Obama Biden party of radicalism, corruption and dishonesty,
I think it's very possible we're going to win. The
key is going to be to convince people who normally
don't vote in an off year that they have to
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go vote if they don't want to have the Obama
Biden machine take control of Washing again. And reaching those
people who are for Trump. They're not necessarily a Republican
and they don't normally vote except in presidential years. Convincing
them to turn out may be the absolute key to
whether or not we maintain our majority. It's a huge,
(21:23):
huge moment. I tried in Trump's Triumph America's Greatest Comeback
to lay out why I'm an optimist. I think it's
very likely we're going to succeed. I think we're likely
to have a better government, a better economy, to have
more spending money in our pockets and more jobs available,
and I think we're likely to have basically solved the
(21:45):
immigration crisis, and people, I think are going to feel
pretty good that we're moving the right direction. Was very
striking to me. The other day then Rasmussen Polling came
out and said that for the very first time in
the history of the poll, fifty percent of Americans thought
we were on the right track. They had never ever
gotten to fifty percent saying we're on the right track,
(22:05):
and the heat of the Rasmussen poll said he was
shocked that he, frankly had concluded we would never get
a majority of Americans to say we're on the right track.
I think we're going to continue down that road. We're
going to continue to have people say, you know, this
is working, and it is a system that we really
want to have strengthened and we want to continue to
build on. Now, there are some really big challenges. There's
(22:29):
the challenge of dealing with Putin and Russia and its
offensive war against Ukraine. There's the challenge of Gaza and Hamas,
which continues still to insist that its idea of peace
is not a single Jew will remain in Israel. There's
the challenge of dealing with the Iranians who chant death
(22:50):
to Israel and death to America, and who's dictator the
Ayatola Hameni. I went on television a few weeks ago
and said, I want to reassure all of you that
when we say death to America, this is not a slogan.
This is our policy, which as if you think about it,
pretty sobering and pretty scary thing to think. So the
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president has some significant foreign policy challenges. He's also going
to have a huge amount of negotiating with countries around
the world on tariffs and frankly, even more important than tariffs,
non trade barriers that some of these countries raise where
you just can't sell American products no matter what. That's
going to be very tedious, very cumbersome, probably going to
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have something like ninety countries being negotiated with, and that's
going to be a long running story. It's not going
to end overnight. But it is the intelligent use of
the American market, which is the largest market in the world,
to say to countries that if you want access to
our market, you're going to have to quit cheating us.
And I think in that sense, the more people understand it,
the more they will infect be in favor of what
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the president's doing. And then, of course, finally he faces
the challenge of China. China is the only potential peer
compared in the world today. It is a huge country.
It's actually shrinking, by the way, It's going to be
much smaller over the next generation because they're one child policy.
I don't think they ever thought this through, But if
you have a one child policy, that means that in
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the next generation you only have half as many adults
as you had in the last generation. Well, that's now
really coming home in a big way, and it's conceivable
that China will actually shrink until it is a little
bit smaller than the United States by late in this century.
We continue to gain, they continue to get smaller. But
managing the Chinese relationship is much more important in the
(24:37):
long run than managing the Russian relationship. And so President
Trump does have a series of I think, very significant challenges.
At the same time, we have enormous opportunities. We're beginning
to take off in artificial intelligence, we begin to take
off in robotics, We're being to take off in our
understanding of biology and the degree which we can cure diseases.
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And extend life in ways that would seem almost like
magic or science fiction if we didn't actually see them
happening in front of our very eyes. I think that
we have a chance to give our children and grandchildren
a dramatically better country with a remarkable future of what
Trump is called a Golden Age. And I think he
may be right. I think that by any human standard,
(25:24):
this is possibly going to be one of the great
periods of invention, one of the great periods of development
in American history and in human history. And a good
bit of it will come because of the kind of
driving entrepreneurial spirit that Donald Trump has. Remember just a
few weeks ago he went to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and
the UAE, and in four short days he got a
(25:48):
trillion dollars, not a billion, a trillion dollars in orders
for American goods and a trillion dollars committed to being
invested in the United States. Now, those kind of things
are going to grow the economy, create jobs, raise the
standard of living, and give all of us a dramatically
better future. And I have every reasonablieve, and this is
why I wrote Trump's Triumph America's Greatest Comeback. I have
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every reasonablieve that he gets it, that he's going to
make it work, and that it's going to be just
a remarkable time to be alive. I want to let
you know that you can order a copy of Trump's
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