August 12, 2025 • 15 mins
Newt talks with Governor Greg Abbott of Texas about the special session to vote on redistricting the state. On Tuesday, the state's top three elected officials, Governor Greg Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick and House Speaker Dustin Burrows said the Legislature will adjourn its current overtime session this Friday, and the Governor will immediately call another special session. The ongoing political standoff continues, with Democrat lawmakers who have left the state refusing to return to prevent the passage of a new congressional map favoring Republicans. Abbott vows to continue calling special sessions until Democrats return, emphasizing the need for a quorum to conduct legislative business. He highlights the penalties Democrats face for their absence and criticizes their actions as contrary to Texas values. Abbott also addresses the broader political implications, including the impact on future elections and the importance of maintaining Republican control in Congress to support President Trump's agenda.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
In this episode of NEWTS World, Texas state lawmakers are
an impass after Texas House Democrats left the state last
week to stop the passage of a new congressional map
drawn with the name of netting five more Republican seats
in the US House. The quorum break has left the
capitol in Austin at an impass. On Tuesday, the state's
top elected officials, Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick,
(00:29):
said the legislature will adjourn its current overtime session this Friday,
and the governor will immediately call another special session. I'm
really pleased to welcome my guest, somebody who I think
has been reshaping America and doing an amazing job, Governor
Greg Abbott of Texas. Greg, welcome and thank you for
(00:58):
joining me on Newtsworld.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
My pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Need so just the news today. You vowed to keep
calling special sessions, which can last for thirty days, until
the Democratic lawmakers actually come back home to your state.
Would you explain why the quorum is needed for a
special session because you have pretty large majorities, don't you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
In Texas, we have good majorities in the House and
Senate as well as we hold every state wide office.
In fact, you'd like this kind of stat. Texas has
the longest statewide winning street among Republicans in the United States.
We are undefeated as a Republican party in statewide elections
since nineteen ninety six. In the Texas House, there are
one hundred and fifty members, eighty eight of whom are Republican,
(01:40):
and so they'd be sixty two of whom are a Democrat.
To have a quorum requires two thirds of the vote,
which means we have to have one hundred votes to
have a quorum for the House to be able to
conduct business. So the Democrats have run away, they have absconded.
They're refusing to show up and do their duty. They
know that if they were in the state of Texas,
(02:01):
the Texas Department of Public Sety would have the authority
to arrest them and take them to the capitol. And
that's why you see them surface in of all places, Illinois, California, Massachusetts,
New York, the top blue states in the country, is
where these Texas Democrats have run to. As a side note,
it is offensive to Texans to see these Texas Democrats
(02:25):
run from a fight. You know, knew The way Texas
got us bravado and our reputation to begin with was
the Battle of the Alamo. That was the quick essential
example of standing and fighting a battle, regardless of how
tough that battle may be. But yet these Democrats are
the antithesis of what it means to be a Texan.
They cut and run when the going got tough for them,
(02:48):
and so they're an embarrassment and I don't see any
reason why their voters would send them back, either they
can find Republicans to replace them, or a Democrat who
would actually stand and fight for their constituents.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm puzzled because under Texas law, don't they actually face
the penalty on almost a daily basis if they refuse
to show up.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They do face penalties on a daily basis. For one,
they are not able right now to receive their paycheck.
They've got to show up in person to do that. Second,
they are subject to fines, and there are other penalties
that are imposed by the Texas House of Representatives. But
you have people like Bechel Rourk out there who is
raising money to help pay for those fines, and so
(03:32):
we can't tell yet how consequential those fines are going
to be What I know is this one thing that
gets to them the most. This isn't the first time
the Democrats in Texas have cut and run. They make
a practice of this. They did it back in twenty
twenty one when we were trying to pass election integrity laws.
They did it back in two thousand and three when
we went through redistricting. Then bottom line is that what
(03:55):
we know is with me having the ability to call
new special sets every thirty days, is going to require
them to remain outside of the state of Texas for months,
maybe even years, and at some point in time they're
going to give up and return to the state.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, I think that Wisconsin Democrats did this at one
point with some Republican governor reforms that they hated and
only they just broke. And by the way, it's a
great irony. Illinois is the most gerrymandered state in the country.
California is the second most gerrymandered state in the country.
So for them to run to states which have been
(04:34):
practicing the art of reshaping districts, there's a certain great
irony to it. What kind of feedback are you getting
from the folks back home?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Texas don't like people who refuse to show up to work.
There are Texans listening to this right now and Texas
across the state. They have to show up to work.
If they don't show up to work, they're going to
lose their job. When they see these Texas Democrats refusing
to show up and do the job they were elected
to do, Texans get angry about it. Know this my
(05:04):
new detail about the Texas Constitution. The Texas Constitution actually
requires using the word shall these members shall show up
and vote on and take action on these pieces of
legislation that I have in the special session agenda. Here's
my point. They're refusing to undertake the constitutional requirement of
(05:26):
what they must do. So what I fellow Texans feel
about these people and it shows that this time and
every time in the past, is about eighty percent of
Texans view them unfavorably for not showing up and doing
their job.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Is there any likely that some of them will break
and you'll get at least enough to make a quorum.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It may be a possibility. There were a few who
did remain in the state of Texas, not enough for
us to be able to make a quorum at a minimum.
That's going to require twelve Democrats to be able to
meet a quorum. We think that by sheer exhaustion by
other means and strategies, there may be some who decide
to make the decision to come back, and know this
(06:05):
when I issue the special session agenda, who knows there
may be some other items on there that will help
the Democrats understand. If they don't come back and come
back quickly, there's going to be an even heavier price
to pay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So I'm curious the way this is being developed. If
they refuse to come back, is there any provision where
you could declare their seats vacant and have a special election?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Not per se. Under the Texas Constitution, it allows the
Texas Governor to fill a seat vacated, and that's what
the constution provides. Separate from that note, I did something
that's never been done before. I found a legal action
in the Texas Supreme Court calling for the removal of
the leader of these Democrats, vacating if you would, of
(06:52):
the seat. It's a legal procedure called quo warento, and
it seeks to remove from office someone who is not
complying with the law of someone who has basically abandoned
their seat. And our contention is that the leader of
the Democrat Caucus has abandoned his seat by refusing to
show up and undertake his constitutionally mandated duties. The Texas
(07:17):
Supreme Court first they requested that this leader, the Democratic
Leader's name is jing Wu, first that he filed a response,
and then last night the Supreme Court set it for
extended briefing, full briefing by all parties. This is a
signal to these runaway Democrats that their time is almost up,
because there may be very well a Texas Supreme Court
(07:38):
decision coming out maybe sometime soon, that will say that
they can, in fact be removed. And if they're removed,
what the Texas Constitution provides is at that moment in time,
I am authorized as governor to call for an immediate
election to fill that vacated seat.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now, if they were removed, would that reduce the number
of people needed for recorum?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Isus? That would be the case.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So literally, if they end up getting removed, you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Will have a quorum exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This is wild. You've always so own a lot of
courage and determination and have done a number of things
(08:29):
I really liked, including bussing people to sensitive democratic areas
to give them a sense of what dealing with the
legal immigration was like. Beta or Arc was quoted as saying,
to hell with the law, let's just whin. That strikes
me as an insane comment. Am I missing something here?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No? I think you kind of candy coated it. To
be honest, you took out the cuss words and you
took out the other extraordinary rhetoric on his part. You
may recall he ran against me for governor just three
years ago, and that's why he lost by double digit.
Texans don't like rhetoric like what he uses. They know
that he really is nothing more than rhetoric. It can't
(09:06):
deliver for what Texans want, and I don't think Americans
agree with it. He's a big talker, but he can't
get anything done, either at the ballot box or when
he's elected office.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Among all the politicians I've watched recently, he's had the
greatest ability to stay afloat while failing. It's been amazing
to watch. Apparently he has resources, and the left must
love him because he remains somehow a persona even when
he can't win anything.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So he also has this unique ability. I think he's
the best I've ever seen at incinerating Democrat donations. He
goes through hundreds of millions of dollars of it, and
why Democrats continue to give him money only to watch
that money be incinerated is beyond my comprehension.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Since we're talking in Texas, I just wrote a piece
about the steady migration of people and registration out of
the Democratic Party into the Republican Party. He was a
guy named South Keshell who's a brilliant student of party registration.
And the shift in vote patterns in South Texas from
Hillary through Biden to Trump is breathtaking. I mean, we're
(10:11):
seeing changes on a scale that I never would have
expected possible.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, and the person who made it possible was Donald Trump.
So your audience can understand exactly what you're talking about.
When you refer to South Texas. You're talking about all
the border counties, and we'll count two counties in so
think of every county on the border and then one
further to the interior. And Donald Trump won all but
one or two of those in this last election. The
(10:37):
last time a Republican won those counties was in the
eighteen hundreds, and those counties are predominantly Hispanic as in
about ninety to ninety five percent Hispanic. And what we
have found is that Hispanics are now voting Republican because
listen to, Hispanics want secure borders just like everybody else does.
Hispanics they don't want boys and girls' sports. Hispanics they
(11:00):
leave in the rule of law. They believe in law enforcement,
and they're against these leftist ideas about defunding the police.
And so what has happened is Democrats in Texas have
abandoned what they took for granted was a core constituency
of theirs to the Hispanic community, and those Hispanics are
now aligning with Republicans and electing Republicans. And it's one
of the reasons behind why we are redrawing these lines,
(11:22):
because we're trying to readraw all these lines in ways
that congressional seats that had voted for a Democrat for
Congress but chose Donald Trump for president. We want to
make sure they're going to have their ability to choose
their candative choice when they vote to send a Republican
to the United States House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
In terms of this standoff in the legislature, Does it
eventually grind itself out or what's the realistic endpoint to
the standoff?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
One hundred percent of the time, it grinds itself out
and they come back to Texas. The only thing that
we don't know is it going to be next week,
Is it going to be next month, next season? We'll see.
All I can guarantee you are these things. One is
that I'm going to continue to call special session after
special session. If they dare show up in the state
of Texas during any of those times, they will be arrested,
(12:07):
they will be taken to the capital, and we will
have a quorum, which means they're going to have to
stay outside of the state of Texas. That get us
very hard on them after a while, And so it
does grind them out, and they will return to Texas.
I just cannot give you a precise date when they will.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But i'd really appreciate your courage, your tenacity. I have
all the way through who ever since you became governor.
What you're doing right now is historic, and frankly, if
you succeed, and I suspect you will, you virtually guarantee
that the House will remain Republican next year, and that
is the most important single step in President Trump being
(12:42):
successful in the long run. I mean, if we lose
the House next year, you know that the radical Democrats
are going to try to impeach him. You know that
they're going to try to investigate everything. You know that
they're going to block every one of his budget requests.
And as a governor, you know the consequence is better
than most people. So what you're doing by attempting to
get back to accurate congressional districts, it's important for people
(13:05):
remember the really truly gerrymandered districts in this country are
in places like Massachusetts, Illinois, California. The Democrats made an
art form of making sure that even when Republicans get
forty or forty two percent of the vote, they get
like twelve percent of the seats. So a lot of
their whining is totally dishonest. But what you're doing with
(13:29):
this fight is you are setting the stage for a
Trump presidency that is truly historic. You did the same
thing in the fight over the border, where you were
just extraordinarily effective, and my hat's off to you. You've
been a great governor in general, but this is going
to make you a place in history that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, thank you, And it's so important for the people
of the United States. They hunger for the reforms that
President Trump is putting into place. Look at what he
did in Washington, d C. It's just a sub part
of his focus, and that is making our country safer.
Liquor he did with regard to Iran, making the world
safer and so hoever, President wants to make the country
a safer place, and we need to make sure he
(14:11):
has members of Congress who are are going to agree
with him as opposed to those who are going to
undercut him.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, and as the governor with the largest border in
the country, you know what, in a huge immediate impact
he had on getting the border under control.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Night and day difference overnight. This time last year, we
were having thousands of people across the border a day.
Now there are zero people allowed to cross the border
and remain in the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's amazing. And again, part of that's because of your
leadership in the long fight to get control of the border.
So America has many reasons to be grateful to you
as governor and governor, but I want to thank you
for taking the time in the middle of everything else
you're doing to share this with us.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Always a pleasure. Great to see you again, Take care.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Well.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
In this episode of NEWTS World, Texas state lawmakers are
an impass after Texas House Democrats left the state last
week to stop the passage of a new congressional map
drawn with the name of netting five more Republican seats
in the US House. The quorum break has left the
capitol in Austin at an impass. On Tuesday, the state's
top elected officials, Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick,
(00:29):
said the legislature will adjourn its current overtime session this Friday,
and the governor will immediately call another special session. I'm
really pleased to welcome my guest, somebody who I think
has been reshaping America and doing an amazing job, Governor
Greg Abbott of Texas. Greg, welcome and thank you for
(00:58):
joining me on Newtsworld.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
My pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Need so just the news today. You vowed to keep
calling special sessions, which can last for thirty days, until
the Democratic lawmakers actually come back home to your state.
Would you explain why the quorum is needed for a
special session because you have pretty large majorities, don't you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
In Texas, we have good majorities in the House and
Senate as well as we hold every state wide office.
In fact, you'd like this kind of stat. Texas has
the longest statewide winning street among Republicans in the United States.
We are undefeated as a Republican party in statewide elections
since nineteen ninety six. In the Texas House, there are
one hundred and fifty members, eighty eight of whom are Republican,
(01:40):
and so they'd be sixty two of whom are a Democrat.
To have a quorum requires two thirds of the vote,
which means we have to have one hundred votes to
have a quorum for the House to be able to
conduct business. So the Democrats have run away, they have absconded.
They're refusing to show up and do their duty. They
know that if they were in the state of Texas,
(02:01):
the Texas Department of Public Sety would have the authority
to arrest them and take them to the capitol. And
that's why you see them surface in of all places, Illinois, California, Massachusetts,
New York, the top blue states in the country, is
where these Texas Democrats have run to. As a side note,
it is offensive to Texans to see these Texas Democrats
(02:25):
run from a fight. You know, knew The way Texas
got us bravado and our reputation to begin with was
the Battle of the Alamo. That was the quick essential
example of standing and fighting a battle, regardless of how
tough that battle may be. But yet these Democrats are
the antithesis of what it means to be a Texan.
They cut and run when the going got tough for them,
(02:48):
and so they're an embarrassment and I don't see any
reason why their voters would send them back, either they
can find Republicans to replace them, or a Democrat who
would actually stand and fight for their constituents.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm puzzled because under Texas law, don't they actually face
the penalty on almost a daily basis if they refuse
to show up.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They do face penalties on a daily basis. For one,
they are not able right now to receive their paycheck.
They've got to show up in person to do that. Second,
they are subject to fines, and there are other penalties
that are imposed by the Texas House of Representatives. But
you have people like Bechel Rourk out there who is
raising money to help pay for those fines, and so
(03:32):
we can't tell yet how consequential those fines are going
to be What I know is this one thing that
gets to them the most. This isn't the first time
the Democrats in Texas have cut and run. They make
a practice of this. They did it back in twenty
twenty one when we were trying to pass election integrity laws.
They did it back in two thousand and three when
we went through redistricting. Then bottom line is that what
(03:55):
we know is with me having the ability to call
new special sets every thirty days, is going to require
them to remain outside of the state of Texas for months,
maybe even years, and at some point in time they're
going to give up and return to the state.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, I think that Wisconsin Democrats did this at one
point with some Republican governor reforms that they hated and
only they just broke. And by the way, it's a
great irony. Illinois is the most gerrymandered state in the country.
California is the second most gerrymandered state in the country.
So for them to run to states which have been
(04:34):
practicing the art of reshaping districts, there's a certain great
irony to it. What kind of feedback are you getting
from the folks back home?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Texas don't like people who refuse to show up to work.
There are Texans listening to this right now and Texas
across the state. They have to show up to work.
If they don't show up to work, they're going to
lose their job. When they see these Texas Democrats refusing
to show up and do the job they were elected
to do, Texans get angry about it. Know this my
(05:04):
new detail about the Texas Constitution. The Texas Constitution actually
requires using the word shall these members shall show up
and vote on and take action on these pieces of
legislation that I have in the special session agenda. Here's
my point. They're refusing to undertake the constitutional requirement of
(05:26):
what they must do. So what I fellow Texans feel
about these people and it shows that this time and
every time in the past, is about eighty percent of
Texans view them unfavorably for not showing up and doing
their job.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Is there any likely that some of them will break
and you'll get at least enough to make a quorum.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It may be a possibility. There were a few who
did remain in the state of Texas, not enough for
us to be able to make a quorum at a minimum.
That's going to require twelve Democrats to be able to
meet a quorum. We think that by sheer exhaustion by
other means and strategies, there may be some who decide
to make the decision to come back, and know this
(06:05):
when I issue the special session agenda, who knows there
may be some other items on there that will help
the Democrats understand. If they don't come back and come
back quickly, there's going to be an even heavier price
to pay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So I'm curious the way this is being developed. If
they refuse to come back, is there any provision where
you could declare their seats vacant and have a special election?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Not per se. Under the Texas Constitution, it allows the
Texas Governor to fill a seat vacated, and that's what
the constution provides. Separate from that note, I did something
that's never been done before. I found a legal action
in the Texas Supreme Court calling for the removal of
the leader of these Democrats, vacating if you would, of
(06:52):
the seat. It's a legal procedure called quo warento, and
it seeks to remove from office someone who is not
complying with the law of someone who has basically abandoned
their seat. And our contention is that the leader of
the Democrat Caucus has abandoned his seat by refusing to
show up and undertake his constitutionally mandated duties. The Texas
(07:17):
Supreme Court first they requested that this leader, the Democratic
Leader's name is jing Wu, first that he filed a response,
and then last night the Supreme Court set it for
extended briefing, full briefing by all parties. This is a
signal to these runaway Democrats that their time is almost up,
because there may be very well a Texas Supreme Court
(07:38):
decision coming out maybe sometime soon, that will say that
they can, in fact be removed. And if they're removed,
what the Texas Constitution provides is at that moment in time,
I am authorized as governor to call for an immediate
election to fill that vacated seat.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now, if they were removed, would that reduce the number
of people needed for recorum?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Isus? That would be the case.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So literally, if they end up getting removed, you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Will have a quorum exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This is wild. You've always so own a lot of
courage and determination and have done a number of things
(08:29):
I really liked, including bussing people to sensitive democratic areas
to give them a sense of what dealing with the
legal immigration was like. Beta or Arc was quoted as saying,
to hell with the law, let's just whin. That strikes
me as an insane comment. Am I missing something here?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No? I think you kind of candy coated it. To
be honest, you took out the cuss words and you
took out the other extraordinary rhetoric on his part. You
may recall he ran against me for governor just three
years ago, and that's why he lost by double digit.
Texans don't like rhetoric like what he uses. They know
that he really is nothing more than rhetoric. It can't
(09:06):
deliver for what Texans want, and I don't think Americans
agree with it. He's a big talker, but he can't
get anything done, either at the ballot box or when
he's elected office.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Among all the politicians I've watched recently, he's had the
greatest ability to stay afloat while failing. It's been amazing
to watch. Apparently he has resources, and the left must
love him because he remains somehow a persona even when
he can't win anything.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So he also has this unique ability. I think he's
the best I've ever seen at incinerating Democrat donations. He
goes through hundreds of millions of dollars of it, and
why Democrats continue to give him money only to watch
that money be incinerated is beyond my comprehension.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Since we're talking in Texas, I just wrote a piece
about the steady migration of people and registration out of
the Democratic Party into the Republican Party. He was a
guy named South Keshell who's a brilliant student of party registration.
And the shift in vote patterns in South Texas from
Hillary through Biden to Trump is breathtaking. I mean, we're
(10:11):
seeing changes on a scale that I never would have
expected possible.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, and the person who made it possible was Donald Trump.
So your audience can understand exactly what you're talking about.
When you refer to South Texas. You're talking about all
the border counties, and we'll count two counties in so
think of every county on the border and then one
further to the interior. And Donald Trump won all but
one or two of those in this last election. The
(10:37):
last time a Republican won those counties was in the
eighteen hundreds, and those counties are predominantly Hispanic as in
about ninety to ninety five percent Hispanic. And what we
have found is that Hispanics are now voting Republican because
listen to, Hispanics want secure borders just like everybody else does.
Hispanics they don't want boys and girls' sports. Hispanics they
(11:00):
leave in the rule of law. They believe in law enforcement,
and they're against these leftist ideas about defunding the police.
And so what has happened is Democrats in Texas have
abandoned what they took for granted was a core constituency
of theirs to the Hispanic community, and those Hispanics are
now aligning with Republicans and electing Republicans. And it's one
of the reasons behind why we are redrawing these lines,
(11:22):
because we're trying to readraw all these lines in ways
that congressional seats that had voted for a Democrat for
Congress but chose Donald Trump for president. We want to
make sure they're going to have their ability to choose
their candative choice when they vote to send a Republican
to the United States House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
In terms of this standoff in the legislature, Does it
eventually grind itself out or what's the realistic endpoint to
the standoff?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
One hundred percent of the time, it grinds itself out
and they come back to Texas. The only thing that
we don't know is it going to be next week,
Is it going to be next month, next season? We'll see.
All I can guarantee you are these things. One is
that I'm going to continue to call special session after
special session. If they dare show up in the state
of Texas during any of those times, they will be arrested,
(12:07):
they will be taken to the capital, and we will
have a quorum, which means they're going to have to
stay outside of the state of Texas. That get us
very hard on them after a while, And so it
does grind them out, and they will return to Texas.
I just cannot give you a precise date when they will.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But i'd really appreciate your courage, your tenacity. I have
all the way through who ever since you became governor.
What you're doing right now is historic, and frankly, if
you succeed, and I suspect you will, you virtually guarantee
that the House will remain Republican next year, and that
is the most important single step in President Trump being
(12:42):
successful in the long run. I mean, if we lose
the House next year, you know that the radical Democrats
are going to try to impeach him. You know that
they're going to try to investigate everything. You know that
they're going to block every one of his budget requests.
And as a governor, you know the consequence is better
than most people. So what you're doing by attempting to
get back to accurate congressional districts, it's important for people
(13:05):
remember the really truly gerrymandered districts in this country are
in places like Massachusetts, Illinois, California. The Democrats made an
art form of making sure that even when Republicans get
forty or forty two percent of the vote, they get
like twelve percent of the seats. So a lot of
their whining is totally dishonest. But what you're doing with
(13:29):
this fight is you are setting the stage for a
Trump presidency that is truly historic. You did the same
thing in the fight over the border, where you were
just extraordinarily effective, and my hat's off to you. You've
been a great governor in general, but this is going
to make you a place in history that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, thank you, And it's so important for the people
of the United States. They hunger for the reforms that
President Trump is putting into place. Look at what he
did in Washington, d C. It's just a sub part
of his focus, and that is making our country safer.
Liquor he did with regard to Iran, making the world
safer and so hoever, President wants to make the country
a safer place, and we need to make sure he
(14:11):
has members of Congress who are are going to agree
with him as opposed to those who are going to
undercut him.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, and as the governor with the largest border in
the country, you know what, in a huge immediate impact
he had on getting the border under control.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Night and day difference overnight. This time last year, we
were having thousands of people across the border a day.
Now there are zero people allowed to cross the border
and remain in the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's amazing. And again, part of that's because of your
leadership in the long fight to get control of the border.
So America has many reasons to be grateful to you
as governor and governor, but I want to thank you
for taking the time in the middle of everything else
you're doing to share this with us.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Always a pleasure. Great to see you again, Take care.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Thank you to my guest Governor Greg Abbott. You can
learn more about the State of Texas special Session on
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Guarnsei Sloan. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for
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