August 20, 2025 • 33 mins
Newt talks with Kevin Malone, a former Major League Baseball executive, about his journey from a successful sports career to becoming a dedicated advocate against child sex trafficking. Malone, who worked with teams like the Los Angeles Dodgers and Montreal Expos, transitioned to a role as a commentator for Fox Sports and ESPN after retiring from baseball. His life took a significant turn when he and his wife moved to Las Vegas in 2018 to combat human trafficking through various nonprofit organizations. Appointed by President Trump in 2025 as a senior advisor on human trafficking for HHS, Malone leverages his experience to fight for the eradication of child sex slavery. Their discussion highlights his baseball career, his theological studies, and his commitment to protecting children from exploitation. Malone emphasizes the importance of public-private partnerships, the role of technology in combating trafficking, and the need for stronger legal actions against perpetrators. He also sheds light on the prevalence of trafficking in the U.S., the involvement of familial connections, and the urgent need for moral leadership to address this crisis.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
On this episode of Newsworld, My guest today is Kevin Malone.
He has had a remarkable career in Major League Baseball,
working for teams including the California Angels, Montreal Expos, Minnesota Twins,
Baltimore Orioles, and Los Angeles Dodgers. After he retired from baseball,
he worked for Fox Sports and ESPN as a commentator,
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but his current devotion is fighting child sex slavery. He
and his wife of forty two years, Maryland, moved from
Los Angeles to Las Vegas in twenty eighteen and have
worked tirelessly through several nonprofit organizations to help save children
from human trafficking. In May twenty twenty five, President Trump
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appointed him to be the Health and Human Services Senior
Adviser in Human Trafficking, where he continues to use his
experience and relationships to fight for the eradication of child
second slavery. It's an important moral cause. Kevin, welcome and
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thank you for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
On this world speaker. It's a pleasure and honor. Thank
you for the time.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm disgrateful for what you've done for America and Lord
willing I can do a little bit to help protect
kids in moving forward, Well, you're.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Doing an amazing thing. But first of all, you had
a remarkable seventeen year run in Major League Baseball, earned
a World Series, ring, had several postseason appearances, and you
were named the best general manager in Major League Baseball
in nineteen ninety five. Looking back, how do you sum
up that chapter of your life?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, Speaker, I think it was basically a learning experience.
I think that the Lord was creating a platform for
me to use those experiences in scouting and player development
and team building to know how to put championship teams
together so that when I got out of baseball, I
would be positioned to best fight child sex trafficking in
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this country as well as child labor trafficking. So I
believe those seventeen years Speaker really taught me how to
build teams, how to collaborate, how to work together, how
to hire the right people and manage the right people
to accomplish your goals and objectives. So I think it
was a training course Speaker in preparing me for doing
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this important work to protect our kids here in America.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You were drafted by the Cleveland Indians after your time
at the University of Louisville, where you played second base
for the Batavia Trojans and Auburn Americans. What did you
take away from that one season in the miners that
helped shape the rest of your career.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I believe that I learned two things Speaker. I learned
that I was a leader in different ways, that I
worked with some of the better players to help them improve,
and basically was kind of a coach in uniform. So
I learned the importance of being a leader because I
was also captain at the University of Louisville in my
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senior year in baseball there, and I think I continue
to see the importance of strong leadership in helping teammates, players,
people that I was working with to get better. And
I think I also learned how important teamwork is unity,
how we should work together if you want to win,
how everyone has to do what they can in their
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specific roles to help the team succeed and to win.
So I learned disciplined as well. Why it was important
to be disciplined. I always, Speaker outworked everyone else because
I was limited on talent.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I wasn't as talent as a.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lot of players, but I could outwork them outthink them
and find ways to beat them. So I think it
just solidified my one year in professional baseball as a
player what I needed to do to be successful in
life and to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
After playing, you chose to go toward a master's in
theology at Tennessee Temple Theological Seminary. That's a pretty big jump.
What led you in that direction?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I had always focused on myself and how I could
be the best, and it was all about me. You know,
whatever's best for me is what's best for everyone. And
then I had an encounter with Jesus my junior year
at the University of Louisville, and I realized that I
was a sinner separated from God and I needed a
personal relationship with Jesus Christ. And God opened my eyes
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up speaker to that it wasn't just about me. It
wasn't about just do what you want to do, whatever's
best for you, but it was about serving others. It
was about loving God and serving others. And so that
transition from kind of the world or from the focus
on self really led me to the seminary to learn
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more about God, about theot about the Bible, about what
does it mean to really serve others and to make
a difference in the world. So it was a major transition.
It was definitely a lot different. I remember, Speaker, I
was walking down one night. I used to play basketball
late at night in the gym there at the Theological Seminary,
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and I was walking down the sidewalk and a truck
goes by, and these guys were egging me, yelling, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
A Jesus freak, Jesus freak.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They threw eggs at me, but they weren't baseball players, Speaker,
because they missed me. They explattered all around me, but
they didn't hit me. So I think what I learned
there was, you know, God must increase and I must decrease.
So I think that was what I learned, that putting
others before me, God always honored and blessed that, and
that's why I think that because of that, I think
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the Lord has blessed me and giving me great opportunities.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
When you graduated from the Tennessee Temple Theological Seminary, you
joined the California Angels as part of the scouting and
player development team. What is it you took from the
Theological Seminary into this new job that was different than
it would have been if you'd never gone there.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I didn't graduate from the seminary. I met my wife,
she was in the business school Maryland as you mentioned earlier,
and kind of changed my world. I met a godly
woman that cared about others as well and kind of
was a great example to me. But what I took
from the seminary training was the importance of unity of team,
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of putting others before you, helping others succeed, leading others
in the right way, providing them opportunities to develop and
be successful. So I think I learned, primarily from a
spiritual perspective why that was important to God, but then
how it translates and impacts to others when you served them,
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helped them achieve their goals, helped them to be unified
as a team of scouts and coaches and do what's
best for the organization for you're working for. So I
think it gave me clarity in my mind as to
what it was going to take to be successful and
to win championships. And I think from a spiritual perspective
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into the baseball world, it really just set the tone
and laid the groundwork for me to be successful.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
When you were the Twins advanced scout in nineteen ninety
one and you helped them win a very very exciting
World Series championship, which got you a championship ring. But
to what extent does an advanced scout impact in a
series like that? What were you doing to contribute to
the team's success.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, first of all, I'm sorry that we beat up
on your Braves, although that World Series was one of
the most exciting speaker as you remember nineteen ninety one,
each game was decided by one run. Each win was
a home win. We started out in Minnesota at the Metrodome.
We won the first two games there. We go to
Atlanta for three. Atlanta beats us all three in Atlanta,
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and then we go back to Minnesota and we win
the next two, so we went four to three win
the World Series. I think what I did was my
responsibility was I scouted the Braves eighteen games into the
regular season, so I got a lot of Marriott points
there and that Marriott Marquee in downtown Atlanta. Because I
watched I scouted the Braves for almost three weeks on
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what their tendencies were. So I did a report it
looked like it was the thickness of the size of war
and peace on What are the tendencies of Bobby Cox?
When did he make certain moves? When would he steal?
When would he pull a pitcher? How did he create
his lineup? So everything you can possibly imagine. Speaker I
put into a report Lonnie Smith, he will make a
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wide turn at second or around the basis you might
be able to throw behind him, And that, in fact
happened in one game and helped us win a particular game.
How to shade the different players as far as positioning
in the outfield, in the infield, what pitches did certain
hitters like, like first pitch, fastball hitters, So everything you
can imagine that a player would do. Also, I looked
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at the field in Atlanta, the ball, how would it
bounce off the wall? What were the foul lines, everything
that you can imagine, all the way down to the
minute details of what it would take for the Twins
to beat the Braves. And Tom Kelly, who was the manager,
they called him TK. I remember in game six or seven,
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he picked up my scouting report in the dugout and
looked at it. And I don't know if he made
a decision based on what he read. But all I
know is that I was honored to be able to
put that scouting report.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Together to win or ring. It was great.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
One quick side note speaker the day of the game
Game one in Minneapolis, TK asked me to speak to
the team just before the game. I'm a young baseball scout.
This was a great experience and two players only asked questions.
Kirby Puckett, hall of Famer, asked me, who do I
really shade to my left or to my right in
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certain situations as far as hitters are concerned, who hits
in what gaps? And the second question was Jack Morris,
who won three games in that World Series. Whose first
ball fastball hitters? That's all I want to know as
to who I shouldn't throw first pitch fastballs too. So
that was an honor to me to have two of
the best players in that World Series asked me questions.
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So it was a great experience and I'm thankful for
that opportunity. Sorry about your braves.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, look, that's part of the businesses. You've go out
and compete. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don't. The
point you may just now I think most people don't
realize how much professional study before they go out on
that mound do they go out in the field, and
how much they've thought about it, and how particularly by
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the time you get to the World Series, you have
people who are very focused on a level of performance
that's sort of astonish him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's true speaking.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And what's new now is with these saber metro and
this computer analysis, you have players in between at bats
going into the clubhouse to watch their bats, to watch pitches,
to look for tendencies. I mean, we were doing this
in nineteen ninety one without the computer analysis and all
that they're using now, I mean it's gone to another level.
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So you're talking about every possible imagination that's in one's
imagination as to every bit of information that can help
you be successful, be it a pitcher on what pitches
to throw and what counts, what hitters are looking for
in certain situations, what managers, what their decisions they're going
to make. I did that with the so called naked
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eye in nineteen ninety one, but they now have computers
doing that. So I was blessed to be ahead of
the game, and I learned a lot from those experiences.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You only were named general manager of the Montreal Expos,
and the Expos really became very competitive, and in the
strike shortened ninety four season, they had the best record
seventy four to forty in Major League Baseball. What is
a you did to take that team and turn it
around so dramatically.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, I have to give a lot of the accolades
in the tribute to Dave Dombrowski, who was the general
manager a few years before that. He kind of laid
the foundation, and then Dan Duquette took over for Dombrowski.
Dave went to the Florida Marlins. Duquette came in and
he was there and he put more pieces to that
puzzle together, and then he left for Boston for the
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Red Sox, and then I took over and I just
added a few pieces to the puzzle speaker. These guys
have did a great job before me. What we did
in Montreal, which a lot of good teams do, is
we added young talent when we needed to. We had solid,
very good veteran players. But part of the challenge in Montreal,
with being a small market team in low resources, we
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had to always trade our best players. But that particular
year ninety four. We had six All Stars that year,
Mary Walker, Marquis Chrissom, Pedro Martinez, Kenny Hill. We had
a lot of really good players, but we had a
good young players. So I think what made that team
really good was that it had a combination of veterans,
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experienced guys and rookies younger players.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And we had Felipe A.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Luiz the manager, who was a All Star himself as
a player, but he understood the game, so I was
able just to add a few pieces. I can't take
much of the credit, speaker. I just was in the
right place at the right time, made a few additions
and kind of managed the team throughout the season. And
I think that's why we were seventy four and forty
and I have to say, your Braves were on our tails.
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We had some great games with the Braves that year,
and we were ahead of them six games at the time.
But everyone was talking about the Montreal Expos and the
New York Yankees were going to be in that series.
But unfortunately to strike hit and we didn't get to
finish the season.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know, ultimately, you ended up as an analyst on
Fox Sports and on ESPN ends baseball tonight. How much
do you think your knowledge, your actual work in baseball
made you dramatically more effective in trying to explain to
the general public what was going on.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's a great question. I think two things to that speaker.
Is one, I think that God blessed me with this
ability like you did, to understand certain situations and how
to provide solutions to problems, to issues, how to outthink
certain people, how to get to the bottom of things.
And I don't say that boastally. I'd just say that humbly,
but I thought about it all the time, and I
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think God blessed me innately with the ability to analyze
a sports game and how players perform. And then I
think those experiences, I was able to translate that and
share that with the TV viewers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Usually it were short.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Soundbites, so I didn't really get to go into detail
like you're allowing me to do. But I was able
to add concise, short analytic perspectives on why players do
certain things, or why teams were successful, whatever it may be.
It was a blessing that I had the ability. But
then it was fine tuned and I learned a lot
more and built upon it. Through all those years, seventeen
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years in the game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
After you left baseball, what is it that drew you
and your wife to focus so intensely on human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So at the time, Speaker, I own a Mercedes Benz
dealership in Los Angeles, so I was afforded the opportunity
the time to really do what God was calling me
to do, which.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Was serve others.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And then late in nineteen ninety eight and then too
to two thousands, we opened the Bin's dealership in two
thousand and five. But really in two thousand and nine,
I went with my pastor my church to Thailand and
I met four or five and six year old boys
and girls that had been sold for sex, that were
broker for sex. They were rescued in a facility, a
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safe house in northern Thailand and Chiang Mai in the
northern part of Thailand, and I learned the importance of
how to serve and help and bring healing to little
kids that had been sex slaves. And it broke my heart.
When you pray to God, God break my heart for
what breakshares, be careful because he might just do that.
So when I got back from Thailand, I started really
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researching and studying was this going on in America, how
bad was the problem and what could I do about it?
And my wife, who's always been supportive of me, said,
if you want to fight this, let's.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Figure out how to do it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So she encouraged me, and then Speaker, I knew some
wealthy guys that said, hey, if you want to do this,
we'll help you create some nonprofits to start doing that.
So I think initially it was meeting young kids that
had been sex slaves, and it broke my heart. And
then what happened was my son was at University of
Southern California at USC. He overdosed his senior year in
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twenty thirteen at the beginning, and he told us that
he was brain dead and to pull his feeding to
starving him to death because if he ever woke up,
he'd be in a vegetative state. We didn't do that, Speaker.
We fasted, we prayed, we cried out to God, and
God performed a miracle and brought my son back to life,
gave him a second chance, and a year and a
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half later, he graduated from the University of Southern California
with a business degree from the Marshall School of Business.
So I say that to say is soon after that,
I believe God was saying to me, Kevin, I gave
you your son back. I want you to go give
moms and dads their sons and daughters back that are
being sex trafficked.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So I believe it was kind of.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
A man and a call from God, and I wanted
to be obedient, and I wanted to help kids. That's
kind of the genesis of how that all transpired.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When did you set up Kids Not for Sale?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That was in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I had been involved with another nonprofit called the United
States Against Human Trafficking, but I really felt God was
calling my wife and my family us to move to
Las Vegas because of the child sex trafficking that was
happening on the Las Vegas Strip and throughout Clark County.
As people know or shouldn't know, that prostitution is not
legal in Clark County. It's legal in certain counties in Nevada,
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but not in Las Vegas and not in Clark County.
So I moved over there to fight for kids, and
I started Kids Not for Sale because I wanted to
really see if I could make a difference. I felt
like God was saying, if you can cut the head
off that snake there, you can cut it off anywhere
in the country. Because we know that there's certain cities
that have a propensity to be involved in this, and
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we know that men fly into Las Vegas to not
only gamble, but the party and have sex with sometimes adults,
but oftentimes with children. So it broke my heart and
I said, I'm going to go there and fight this.
So I got to know Governor Lombardo, who at the
time was the sheriff and the chief of police, and
then I know now the current chief of police and sheriff,
which is Kevin mcmahell. I work with the city council,
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I work with nonprofits, I work with law enforcement and
all those politicians to try to figure out how we
can best protect kids. And unfortunately, Speaker, a lot of
times people talk a good game, but they don't take action.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And you know this from being in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I've been there three months now, and I tell you what,
that town is full of a lot of talkers and
I don't see a lot of doers a lot of action.
You were one of the outlier. You were one of
the leaders that took action that made things happen to
do what was best for America. So I thank you
for that example, and I think President Trump is also
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kind of following in your footsteps, so to speak, doing
what's best for Americans and America first, I mean, that's
what it's all about. And that doesn't mean we don't
care about other countries and we don't do things to
protect people that live in other countries. But our first
priority is doing what's best for America, meaning our families,
our friends, and our communities, our cities. And you were
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an example. You set the example. You did a lot
of that all those years the eighties and nineties that
you were in Congress. So again, I thank you for
being the example.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a great honor that you would say that, but
as you know, it's a team effort. And President Trump
recognized your leadership back in his first term. In October
twenty nineteen, he appointed you to the Public Private Partnership
Advisory Council DAN Human Traffic in the United States. Was
that an eye opening experience?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, yes, it was, because I think you could tell
even from our conversation and I'm kind of an aggressive guy.
Take no prisoners captive. I'm going to get it done,
and I'll fight you to the end, but I'm going
to win. And I think he recognized that. I spent
more time learning from Ivanka because she had a great
heart for survivors, for traffic victims, and she really her
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and the President really passed a lot of policies and
provided resources in this fight. I mean, you can take
all the presidents together, and they didn't do half of
what President Trump did in his first term in the
regards of fighting human trafficking and providing resources to victims.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Public private partnership, it was interesting because you know, partnerships
are absolutely essential because no single agency or organization can
end trafficking alone, and I believe public private partnerships have
been especially effective. You know, we've worked with the HHS
under Secretary Kennedy make America Healthy Again, to train providers
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because research shows that most trafficking survivors they see a
healthcare provider while they're being exploited. But too often the
signs are this. You know, ending trafficking, as you just
mentioned about working together, takes all of his government, business, nonprofits,
and everyday people who care enough to act. When we
bring our strengths together, we can create real and lasting solutions.
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And I just follow the example of President Trump. I mean,
he puts his money where his mouth is and he
takes action. He gets things done. And I'm thankful to
him and his administration and Secretary Kennedy for providing me
the opportunity to work with businesses that have a role
in this. We need everybody, like Tommy Lesuri used to say, speakers,
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we all need to be on the same end of
the row, pulling in the same direction. And when we
can do that in Washington, d C. And the federal government,
we can make a really big difference for families, for kids,
for our community. So I'm just grateful to be able
to work across the government and business lines to make
positive things happen for Americans.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
A lot of Americans will say a lot against child trafficking,
but they don't think it's all overseas. How big a
problem is it right here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's a common misconception that human trafficking happens only in
other countries. The truth is speaker, It's happening right here
in our own backyards. It's in the suburbs, the small towns,
rural communities, and major cities all across this country. And
the interesting thing is trafficking often hides in plain sight.
Traffickers pray on vulnerability, and those vulnerabilities exist in every
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zip code. And human trafficking, in my opinion, it's not
just a law enforcement issue. It's a public health crisis.
And that's the way I think we as Americans need
to look at it as a public health crisis because
it's about protecting kids, it's about restoring broken systems, and
it's about making sure that no every one is exploited
for profit. So that is a big misconception. And one
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thing I'd like to mention speaker is Americans don't understand
or know is that the DOJ and their reports and
research showed that up to thirty six percent of all
trafficked American kids are boys. People don't realize that boys
and men are also being trafficked. So that's another misconception,
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is that only girls and women are being trafficked. Up
to a third are boys.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I had a.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Boy's home when I was at the US Institute Against
Human Trafficking. We had thirty three boys go through our
home in four years and we provided wrap around services
and a lot of them were recruited by traffickers on
the gaming devices through social media. And that's a real
big problem speaker right now. Is this technology facilitated abuse?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is the Internet. It allows traffickers.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And evil people to come into your home through the phones,
through laptops, through all the things that kids are on
these days. So we've got a real problem with predators
attacking our kids through Internet, so through technology. So we
need to do a much better job in protecting our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
How young are some of the people who are exploited.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, I'll give you a quick story. So when we
had the US Institute against him trid the boys, we
called it the Hero House. We had one of our
workers go up to Jacksonville picked up a boy and
when he picked him up, he only had a trash
bag of his possessions. Before he got in the car,
he said to the guy that was picking him up,
are you safe, basically implying that most men he's ever
dealt with sexually abused him. Drove him back to the
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Tampa Bay area, which is where our trafficking safe home was,
the Hero House, and when he got there, we found
out he didn't know his birthday, he didn't know how
old he was. We found out he had just turned
ten years of age.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Speaker.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He had never settled a brad to a birthday, he'd
never been to school, and he couldn't read or write.
That's just a ten year old in America. And guess
who the traffic here. It was his father. So we're
finding out in America that between forty and fifty percent
of all traffic kids is familial. It's some kind of
family connection. It's an ant or an uncle, grandmother, or
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someone that's considered part of the family. So we need
to be aware of everyone that's dealing with our kids.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Sounds like in many ways we're really becoming a pretty
sick culture we are.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Speaker.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean, it's pure evil the fact that men can't
be satisfied with an adult woman, or that they have
to go down this downward spiro into depravity, and that
they can only be satisfied or.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Have sex with a child.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Here's the thought for you and for your listener, Speaker,
what we're finding out. I'm working with Department of Homeland
Security as well. They're doing great work in this space
is that we have a real problem now with infants
and toddlers being sowed for sex all across this country.
And not only are they being bought and sold, I'm
talking about babies up to five years of age. They're
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being bought and sold for sex and it's being videoed
and they're showing it. They're selling videos of men abusing
sexually violently infants in toddlers. Now, how evil do you
have to be to do that sort of behavior. So
I have no patience with that, and you know, to me,
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we need to do everything we can.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
To protect our kids.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There's some crazy stuff going on out there speaking a
group called seven sixty four. Is this kind of culted group,
a satanic demonic group, recruiting kids to cut themselves, kill animals,
and do perverted sexual acts on video and then at
the end commit suicide. We're living in Sodom and Gomorrah
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these days, and it's even worse than Sodom and Gomora
because we've got technology facilitated abuses and crimes that are
coming right into our homes. And I would just encourage
parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles be protective of the
kids and the children and your family or their friends
because they're under attack. They're being targeted by these evil predators,
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and we need to be aware of this. It's growing rapidly.
The numbers are off the charts as to how fast
these crimes are growing.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Given your experience, what will it take for the US
to make a significant, lasting reduction in human trafficking over
the next decade.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, I think in dealing with AI with technology, we
have the potential to turn the tide because right now
AI is being used in technology facilitate abuses in a
very negative, harmful, evil way. But if we use it
in a positive way correctly, it can detect grooming behavior,
it can fight suspicious activity, and it can help law
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enforcement intervene much more quickly. Through AI, we can analyze
vast amounts of data that can identify trafficking networks and
predict risk before the harm occurs. In short speaker, the
same algorithms that traffickers are using to exploit kids can
be reprogrammed.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
To protect kids. So we've got to take.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A real strong look at technology and beyond the technology component,
we need leadership in this country and that is not
only political but business wise. We need to invest in
ethical technology that defends children, setting standards so that safety
and privacy are at the forefront, not afterthoughts. And if
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we want to win the tech race, which we hear
about a lot now, the best place to start is
by protecting our kids. This isn't just a smart policy.
It's a national security issue and as you mentioned at
the very beginning, it's about moral leadership.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
We have a lot of these.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Big tech companies speaker, that are wanting to make money,
and the money they're making is so vast, it's so
great because it involves kids being abused and being tortured
and being sexually exploited. So we have to do that's
right for our kids and sacrifice a few dollars at
the tech level to protect all of our kids in
this country.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I'm going to have to put a large number of
these people in.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Jail, Yes, sir, we should.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I mean, I think jail is too good for them.
But between us, I believe in second chances. But it's
hard for me to think that I can give a
sexual predator, a pedophile a second chance. But maybe a
second chance. And I'm just speaking for myself. It's hard
for me to say that. But if you give a predator,
a pedophile, these people abusing kids a second chance, there's
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no more chances. There really should be only one chance,
and then throw away the keys to the prisons.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Or doing whatever more you have to do.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But we have to take a stronger stance, speaker, because
what I'm finding out across the country, it's usually.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Up to the states to take action.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But a lot of these predators, a lot of these
men that are buying sex. One of important fact is
that I've read or heard is that American men are
the number one consumers of buying sex from children in
the world. What does that say about us as American men,
that that's what we're known for, the number one consumers
of buying sex from children. So I think we've really
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got to figure out ways to help men. And maybe
these are some sort of perverse addictions, but help is
out there, and we can provide help, and we need
to stop, and we need to increase the laws in
certain states. A lot of these traffickers, a lot of
these buyers of sex from kids, I call them rapists.
They get a slap on the wrist, it's not even
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a felony. They plead down from a felony to a misdemeanor.
And it's hard to really capture these predators, these pedophiles,
but we've been looking the other way for a long time,
and attorney generals and prosecutors they need to prosecute these
crimes and not plead down because they're tough cases to prove.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I want to thank you for joining me because with
your passion and your commitment, there are a lot of
young people who are gonna be safe who otherwise would
be very very badly damaged and in some case is killed.
And I want to let our listeners know they can
find out more about Kids Not for Sale by visiting
Kids Not for Sale dot Org, which we'll have on
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our show page. And I want to wish you well.
I'm so glad as a citizen that you have agreed
to join HHS work for the entire country, and I
think you're going to have a big impact, and we're
going to do all weekend to help you. So thank
you very much for being with me today.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Thank you, speaker. God bless you and your family. And
I'll do my best to protect not only your family,
but everyone's family in America. That's what it's all about.
And I need to pray a lot, and I need
to seek God's wisdom and guidance. I'm going to do
everything I can speaker, so you and your wife please
keep me in your alls prayers too.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Thank you to my guest Kevin Malone. You can get
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On this episode of Newsworld, My guest today is Kevin Malone.
He has had a remarkable career in Major League Baseball,
working for teams including the California Angels, Montreal Expos, Minnesota Twins,
Baltimore Orioles, and Los Angeles Dodgers. After he retired from baseball,
he worked for Fox Sports and ESPN as a commentator,
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but his current devotion is fighting child sex slavery. He
and his wife of forty two years, Maryland, moved from
Los Angeles to Las Vegas in twenty eighteen and have
worked tirelessly through several nonprofit organizations to help save children
from human trafficking. In May twenty twenty five, President Trump
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appointed him to be the Health and Human Services Senior
Adviser in Human Trafficking, where he continues to use his
experience and relationships to fight for the eradication of child
second slavery. It's an important moral cause. Kevin, welcome and
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thank you for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
On this world speaker. It's a pleasure and honor. Thank
you for the time.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm disgrateful for what you've done for America and Lord
willing I can do a little bit to help protect
kids in moving forward, Well, you're.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Doing an amazing thing. But first of all, you had
a remarkable seventeen year run in Major League Baseball, earned
a World Series, ring, had several postseason appearances, and you
were named the best general manager in Major League Baseball
in nineteen ninety five. Looking back, how do you sum
up that chapter of your life?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, Speaker, I think it was basically a learning experience.
I think that the Lord was creating a platform for
me to use those experiences in scouting and player development
and team building to know how to put championship teams
together so that when I got out of baseball, I
would be positioned to best fight child sex trafficking in
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this country as well as child labor trafficking. So I
believe those seventeen years Speaker really taught me how to
build teams, how to collaborate, how to work together, how
to hire the right people and manage the right people
to accomplish your goals and objectives. So I think it
was a training course Speaker in preparing me for doing
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this important work to protect our kids here in America.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You were drafted by the Cleveland Indians after your time
at the University of Louisville, where you played second base
for the Batavia Trojans and Auburn Americans. What did you
take away from that one season in the miners that
helped shape the rest of your career.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I believe that I learned two things Speaker. I learned
that I was a leader in different ways, that I
worked with some of the better players to help them improve,
and basically was kind of a coach in uniform. So
I learned the importance of being a leader because I
was also captain at the University of Louisville in my
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senior year in baseball there, and I think I continue
to see the importance of strong leadership in helping teammates, players,
people that I was working with to get better. And
I think I also learned how important teamwork is unity,
how we should work together if you want to win,
how everyone has to do what they can in their
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specific roles to help the team succeed and to win.
So I learned disciplined as well. Why it was important
to be disciplined. I always, Speaker outworked everyone else because
I was limited on talent.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I wasn't as talent as a.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lot of players, but I could outwork them outthink them
and find ways to beat them. So I think it
just solidified my one year in professional baseball as a
player what I needed to do to be successful in
life and to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
After playing, you chose to go toward a master's in
theology at Tennessee Temple Theological Seminary. That's a pretty big jump.
What led you in that direction?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I had always focused on myself and how I could
be the best, and it was all about me. You know,
whatever's best for me is what's best for everyone. And
then I had an encounter with Jesus my junior year
at the University of Louisville, and I realized that I
was a sinner separated from God and I needed a
personal relationship with Jesus Christ. And God opened my eyes
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up speaker to that it wasn't just about me. It
wasn't about just do what you want to do, whatever's
best for you, but it was about serving others. It
was about loving God and serving others. And so that
transition from kind of the world or from the focus
on self really led me to the seminary to learn
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more about God, about theot about the Bible, about what
does it mean to really serve others and to make
a difference in the world. So it was a major transition.
It was definitely a lot different. I remember, Speaker, I
was walking down one night. I used to play basketball
late at night in the gym there at the Theological Seminary,
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and I was walking down the sidewalk and a truck
goes by, and these guys were egging me, yelling, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
A Jesus freak, Jesus freak.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They threw eggs at me, but they weren't baseball players, Speaker,
because they missed me. They explattered all around me, but
they didn't hit me. So I think what I learned
there was, you know, God must increase and I must decrease.
So I think that was what I learned, that putting
others before me, God always honored and blessed that, and
that's why I think that because of that, I think
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the Lord has blessed me and giving me great opportunities.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
When you graduated from the Tennessee Temple Theological Seminary, you
joined the California Angels as part of the scouting and
player development team. What is it you took from the
Theological Seminary into this new job that was different than
it would have been if you'd never gone there.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I didn't graduate from the seminary. I met my wife,
she was in the business school Maryland as you mentioned earlier,
and kind of changed my world. I met a godly
woman that cared about others as well and kind of
was a great example to me. But what I took
from the seminary training was the importance of unity of team,
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of putting others before you, helping others succeed, leading others
in the right way, providing them opportunities to develop and
be successful. So I think I learned, primarily from a
spiritual perspective why that was important to God, but then
how it translates and impacts to others when you served them,
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helped them achieve their goals, helped them to be unified
as a team of scouts and coaches and do what's
best for the organization for you're working for. So I
think it gave me clarity in my mind as to
what it was going to take to be successful and
to win championships. And I think from a spiritual perspective
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into the baseball world, it really just set the tone
and laid the groundwork for me to be successful.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
When you were the Twins advanced scout in nineteen ninety
one and you helped them win a very very exciting
World Series championship, which got you a championship ring. But
to what extent does an advanced scout impact in a
series like that? What were you doing to contribute to
the team's success.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, first of all, I'm sorry that we beat up
on your Braves, although that World Series was one of
the most exciting speaker as you remember nineteen ninety one,
each game was decided by one run. Each win was
a home win. We started out in Minnesota at the Metrodome.
We won the first two games there. We go to
Atlanta for three. Atlanta beats us all three in Atlanta,
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and then we go back to Minnesota and we win
the next two, so we went four to three win
the World Series. I think what I did was my
responsibility was I scouted the Braves eighteen games into the
regular season, so I got a lot of Marriott points
there and that Marriott Marquee in downtown Atlanta. Because I
watched I scouted the Braves for almost three weeks on
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what their tendencies were. So I did a report it
looked like it was the thickness of the size of war
and peace on What are the tendencies of Bobby Cox?
When did he make certain moves? When would he steal?
When would he pull a pitcher? How did he create
his lineup? So everything you can possibly imagine. Speaker I
put into a report Lonnie Smith, he will make a
(08:43):
wide turn at second or around the basis you might
be able to throw behind him, And that, in fact
happened in one game and helped us win a particular game.
How to shade the different players as far as positioning
in the outfield, in the infield, what pitches did certain
hitters like, like first pitch, fastball hitters, So everything you
can imagine that a player would do. Also, I looked
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at the field in Atlanta, the ball, how would it
bounce off the wall? What were the foul lines, everything
that you can imagine, all the way down to the
minute details of what it would take for the Twins
to beat the Braves. And Tom Kelly, who was the manager,
they called him TK. I remember in game six or seven,
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he picked up my scouting report in the dugout and
looked at it. And I don't know if he made
a decision based on what he read. But all I
know is that I was honored to be able to
put that scouting report.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Together to win or ring. It was great.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
One quick side note speaker the day of the game
Game one in Minneapolis, TK asked me to speak to
the team just before the game. I'm a young baseball scout.
This was a great experience and two players only asked questions.
Kirby Puckett, hall of Famer, asked me, who do I
really shade to my left or to my right in
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certain situations as far as hitters are concerned, who hits
in what gaps? And the second question was Jack Morris,
who won three games in that World Series. Whose first
ball fastball hitters? That's all I want to know as
to who I shouldn't throw first pitch fastballs too. So
that was an honor to me to have two of
the best players in that World Series asked me questions.
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So it was a great experience and I'm thankful for
that opportunity. Sorry about your braves.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, look, that's part of the businesses. You've go out
and compete. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don't. The
point you may just now I think most people don't
realize how much professional study before they go out on
that mound do they go out in the field, and
how much they've thought about it, and how particularly by
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the time you get to the World Series, you have
people who are very focused on a level of performance
that's sort of astonish him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's true speaking.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And what's new now is with these saber metro and
this computer analysis, you have players in between at bats
going into the clubhouse to watch their bats, to watch pitches,
to look for tendencies. I mean, we were doing this
in nineteen ninety one without the computer analysis and all
that they're using now, I mean it's gone to another level.
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So you're talking about every possible imagination that's in one's
imagination as to every bit of information that can help
you be successful, be it a pitcher on what pitches
to throw and what counts, what hitters are looking for
in certain situations, what managers, what their decisions they're going
to make. I did that with the so called naked
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eye in nineteen ninety one, but they now have computers
doing that. So I was blessed to be ahead of
the game, and I learned a lot from those experiences.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You only were named general manager of the Montreal Expos,
and the Expos really became very competitive, and in the
strike shortened ninety four season, they had the best record
seventy four to forty in Major League Baseball. What is
a you did to take that team and turn it
around so dramatically.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, I have to give a lot of the accolades
in the tribute to Dave Dombrowski, who was the general
manager a few years before that. He kind of laid
the foundation, and then Dan Duquette took over for Dombrowski.
Dave went to the Florida Marlins. Duquette came in and
he was there and he put more pieces to that
puzzle together, and then he left for Boston for the
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Red Sox, and then I took over and I just
added a few pieces to the puzzle speaker. These guys
have did a great job before me. What we did
in Montreal, which a lot of good teams do, is
we added young talent when we needed to. We had solid,
very good veteran players. But part of the challenge in Montreal,
with being a small market team in low resources, we
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had to always trade our best players. But that particular
year ninety four. We had six All Stars that year,
Mary Walker, Marquis Chrissom, Pedro Martinez, Kenny Hill. We had
a lot of really good players, but we had a
good young players. So I think what made that team
really good was that it had a combination of veterans,
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experienced guys and rookies younger players.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And we had Felipe A.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Luiz the manager, who was a All Star himself as
a player, but he understood the game, so I was
able just to add a few pieces. I can't take
much of the credit, speaker. I just was in the
right place at the right time, made a few additions
and kind of managed the team throughout the season. And
I think that's why we were seventy four and forty
and I have to say, your Braves were on our tails.
(13:40):
We had some great games with the Braves that year,
and we were ahead of them six games at the time.
But everyone was talking about the Montreal Expos and the
New York Yankees were going to be in that series.
But unfortunately to strike hit and we didn't get to
finish the season.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know, ultimately, you ended up as an analyst on
Fox Sports and on ESPN ends baseball tonight. How much
do you think your knowledge, your actual work in baseball
made you dramatically more effective in trying to explain to
the general public what was going on.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's a great question. I think two things to that speaker.
Is one, I think that God blessed me with this
ability like you did, to understand certain situations and how
to provide solutions to problems, to issues, how to outthink
certain people, how to get to the bottom of things.
And I don't say that boastally. I'd just say that humbly,
but I thought about it all the time, and I
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think God blessed me innately with the ability to analyze
a sports game and how players perform. And then I
think those experiences, I was able to translate that and
share that with the TV viewers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Usually it were short.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Soundbites, so I didn't really get to go into detail
like you're allowing me to do. But I was able
to add concise, short analytic perspectives on why players do
certain things, or why teams were successful, whatever it may be.
It was a blessing that I had the ability. But
then it was fine tuned and I learned a lot
more and built upon it. Through all those years, seventeen
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years in the game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
After you left baseball, what is it that drew you
and your wife to focus so intensely on human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So at the time, Speaker, I own a Mercedes Benz
dealership in Los Angeles, so I was afforded the opportunity
the time to really do what God was calling me
to do, which.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Was serve others.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And then late in nineteen ninety eight and then too
to two thousands, we opened the Bin's dealership in two
thousand and five. But really in two thousand and nine,
I went with my pastor my church to Thailand and
I met four or five and six year old boys
and girls that had been sold for sex, that were
broker for sex. They were rescued in a facility, a
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safe house in northern Thailand and Chiang Mai in the
northern part of Thailand, and I learned the importance of
how to serve and help and bring healing to little
kids that had been sex slaves. And it broke my heart.
When you pray to God, God break my heart for
what breakshares, be careful because he might just do that.
So when I got back from Thailand, I started really
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researching and studying was this going on in America, how
bad was the problem and what could I do about it?
And my wife, who's always been supportive of me, said,
if you want to fight this, let's.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Figure out how to do it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So she encouraged me, and then Speaker, I knew some
wealthy guys that said, hey, if you want to do this,
we'll help you create some nonprofits to start doing that.
So I think initially it was meeting young kids that
had been sex slaves, and it broke my heart. And
then what happened was my son was at University of
Southern California at USC. He overdosed his senior year in
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twenty thirteen at the beginning, and he told us that
he was brain dead and to pull his feeding to
starving him to death because if he ever woke up,
he'd be in a vegetative state. We didn't do that, Speaker.
We fasted, we prayed, we cried out to God, and
God performed a miracle and brought my son back to life,
gave him a second chance, and a year and a
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half later, he graduated from the University of Southern California
with a business degree from the Marshall School of Business.
So I say that to say is soon after that,
I believe God was saying to me, Kevin, I gave
you your son back. I want you to go give
moms and dads their sons and daughters back that are
being sex trafficked.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So I believe it was kind of.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
A man and a call from God, and I wanted
to be obedient, and I wanted to help kids. That's
kind of the genesis of how that all transpired.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When did you set up Kids Not for Sale?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That was in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I had been involved with another nonprofit called the United
States Against Human Trafficking, but I really felt God was
calling my wife and my family us to move to
Las Vegas because of the child sex trafficking that was
happening on the Las Vegas Strip and throughout Clark County.
As people know or shouldn't know, that prostitution is not
legal in Clark County. It's legal in certain counties in Nevada,
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but not in Las Vegas and not in Clark County.
So I moved over there to fight for kids, and
I started Kids Not for Sale because I wanted to
really see if I could make a difference. I felt
like God was saying, if you can cut the head
off that snake there, you can cut it off anywhere
in the country. Because we know that there's certain cities
that have a propensity to be involved in this, and
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we know that men fly into Las Vegas to not
only gamble, but the party and have sex with sometimes adults,
but oftentimes with children. So it broke my heart and
I said, I'm going to go there and fight this.
So I got to know Governor Lombardo, who at the
time was the sheriff and the chief of police, and
then I know now the current chief of police and sheriff,
which is Kevin mcmahell. I work with the city council,
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I work with nonprofits, I work with law enforcement and
all those politicians to try to figure out how we
can best protect kids. And unfortunately, Speaker, a lot of
times people talk a good game, but they don't take action.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And you know this from being in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I've been there three months now, and I tell you what,
that town is full of a lot of talkers and
I don't see a lot of doers a lot of action.
You were one of the outlier. You were one of
the leaders that took action that made things happen to
do what was best for America. So I thank you
for that example, and I think President Trump is also
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kind of following in your footsteps, so to speak, doing
what's best for Americans and America first, I mean, that's
what it's all about. And that doesn't mean we don't
care about other countries and we don't do things to
protect people that live in other countries. But our first
priority is doing what's best for America, meaning our families,
our friends, and our communities, our cities. And you were
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an example. You set the example. You did a lot
of that all those years the eighties and nineties that
you were in Congress. So again, I thank you for
being the example.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a great honor that you would say that, but
as you know, it's a team effort. And President Trump
recognized your leadership back in his first term. In October
twenty nineteen, he appointed you to the Public Private Partnership
Advisory Council DAN Human Traffic in the United States. Was
that an eye opening experience?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, yes, it was, because I think you could tell
even from our conversation and I'm kind of an aggressive guy.
Take no prisoners captive. I'm going to get it done,
and I'll fight you to the end, but I'm going
to win. And I think he recognized that. I spent
more time learning from Ivanka because she had a great
heart for survivors, for traffic victims, and she really her
(21:09):
and the President really passed a lot of policies and
provided resources in this fight. I mean, you can take
all the presidents together, and they didn't do half of
what President Trump did in his first term in the
regards of fighting human trafficking and providing resources to victims.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Public private partnership, it was interesting because you know, partnerships
are absolutely essential because no single agency or organization can
end trafficking alone, and I believe public private partnerships have
been especially effective. You know, we've worked with the HHS
under Secretary Kennedy make America Healthy Again, to train providers
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because research shows that most trafficking survivors they see a
healthcare provider while they're being exploited. But too often the
signs are this. You know, ending trafficking, as you just
mentioned about working together, takes all of his government, business, nonprofits,
and everyday people who care enough to act. When we
bring our strengths together, we can create real and lasting solutions.
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And I just follow the example of President Trump. I mean,
he puts his money where his mouth is and he
takes action. He gets things done. And I'm thankful to
him and his administration and Secretary Kennedy for providing me
the opportunity to work with businesses that have a role
in this. We need everybody, like Tommy Lesuri used to say, speakers,
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we all need to be on the same end of
the row, pulling in the same direction. And when we
can do that in Washington, d C. And the federal government,
we can make a really big difference for families, for kids,
for our community. So I'm just grateful to be able
to work across the government and business lines to make
positive things happen for Americans.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
A lot of Americans will say a lot against child trafficking,
but they don't think it's all overseas. How big a
problem is it right here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's a common misconception that human trafficking happens only in
other countries. The truth is speaker, It's happening right here
in our own backyards. It's in the suburbs, the small towns,
rural communities, and major cities all across this country. And
the interesting thing is trafficking often hides in plain sight.
Traffickers pray on vulnerability, and those vulnerabilities exist in every
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zip code. And human trafficking, in my opinion, it's not
just a law enforcement issue. It's a public health crisis.
And that's the way I think we as Americans need
to look at it as a public health crisis because
it's about protecting kids, it's about restoring broken systems, and
it's about making sure that no every one is exploited
for profit. So that is a big misconception. And one
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thing I'd like to mention speaker is Americans don't understand
or know is that the DOJ and their reports and
research showed that up to thirty six percent of all
trafficked American kids are boys. People don't realize that boys
and men are also being trafficked. So that's another misconception,
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is that only girls and women are being trafficked. Up
to a third are boys.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I had a.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Boy's home when I was at the US Institute Against
Human Trafficking. We had thirty three boys go through our
home in four years and we provided wrap around services
and a lot of them were recruited by traffickers on
the gaming devices through social media. And that's a real
big problem speaker right now. Is this technology facilitated abuse?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is the Internet. It allows traffickers.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And evil people to come into your home through the phones,
through laptops, through all the things that kids are on
these days. So we've got a real problem with predators
attacking our kids through Internet, so through technology. So we
need to do a much better job in protecting our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
How young are some of the people who are exploited.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, I'll give you a quick story. So when we
had the US Institute against him trid the boys, we
called it the Hero House. We had one of our
workers go up to Jacksonville picked up a boy and
when he picked him up, he only had a trash
bag of his possessions. Before he got in the car,
he said to the guy that was picking him up,
are you safe, basically implying that most men he's ever
dealt with sexually abused him. Drove him back to the
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Tampa Bay area, which is where our trafficking safe home was,
the Hero House, and when he got there, we found
out he didn't know his birthday, he didn't know how
old he was. We found out he had just turned
ten years of age.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Speaker.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He had never settled a brad to a birthday, he'd
never been to school, and he couldn't read or write.
That's just a ten year old in America. And guess
who the traffic here. It was his father. So we're
finding out in America that between forty and fifty percent
of all traffic kids is familial. It's some kind of
family connection. It's an ant or an uncle, grandmother, or
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someone that's considered part of the family. So we need
to be aware of everyone that's dealing with our kids.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Sounds like in many ways we're really becoming a pretty
sick culture we are.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Speaker.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean, it's pure evil the fact that men can't
be satisfied with an adult woman, or that they have
to go down this downward spiro into depravity, and that
they can only be satisfied or.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Have sex with a child.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Here's the thought for you and for your listener, Speaker,
what we're finding out. I'm working with Department of Homeland
Security as well. They're doing great work in this space
is that we have a real problem now with infants
and toddlers being sowed for sex all across this country.
And not only are they being bought and sold, I'm
talking about babies up to five years of age. They're
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being bought and sold for sex and it's being videoed
and they're showing it. They're selling videos of men abusing
sexually violently infants in toddlers. Now, how evil do you
have to be to do that sort of behavior. So
I have no patience with that, and you know, to me,
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we need to do everything we can.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
To protect our kids.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There's some crazy stuff going on out there speaking a
group called seven sixty four. Is this kind of culted group,
a satanic demonic group, recruiting kids to cut themselves, kill animals,
and do perverted sexual acts on video and then at
the end commit suicide. We're living in Sodom and Gomorrah
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these days, and it's even worse than Sodom and Gomora
because we've got technology facilitated abuses and crimes that are
coming right into our homes. And I would just encourage
parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles be protective of the
kids and the children and your family or their friends
because they're under attack. They're being targeted by these evil predators,
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and we need to be aware of this. It's growing rapidly.
The numbers are off the charts as to how fast
these crimes are growing.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Given your experience, what will it take for the US
to make a significant, lasting reduction in human trafficking over
the next decade.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, I think in dealing with AI with technology, we
have the potential to turn the tide because right now
AI is being used in technology facilitate abuses in a
very negative, harmful, evil way. But if we use it
in a positive way correctly, it can detect grooming behavior,
it can fight suspicious activity, and it can help law
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enforcement intervene much more quickly. Through AI, we can analyze
vast amounts of data that can identify trafficking networks and
predict risk before the harm occurs. In short speaker, the
same algorithms that traffickers are using to exploit kids can
be reprogrammed.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
To protect kids. So we've got to take.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A real strong look at technology and beyond the technology component,
we need leadership in this country and that is not
only political but business wise. We need to invest in
ethical technology that defends children, setting standards so that safety
and privacy are at the forefront, not afterthoughts. And if
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we want to win the tech race, which we hear
about a lot now, the best place to start is
by protecting our kids. This isn't just a smart policy.
It's a national security issue and as you mentioned at
the very beginning, it's about moral leadership.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
We have a lot of these.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Big tech companies speaker, that are wanting to make money,
and the money they're making is so vast, it's so
great because it involves kids being abused and being tortured
and being sexually exploited. So we have to do that's
right for our kids and sacrifice a few dollars at
the tech level to protect all of our kids in
this country.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I'm going to have to put a large number of
these people in.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Jail, Yes, sir, we should.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I mean, I think jail is too good for them.
But between us, I believe in second chances. But it's
hard for me to think that I can give a
sexual predator, a pedophile a second chance. But maybe a
second chance. And I'm just speaking for myself. It's hard
for me to say that. But if you give a predator,
a pedophile, these people abusing kids a second chance, there's
(30:33):
no more chances. There really should be only one chance,
and then throw away the keys to the prisons.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Or doing whatever more you have to do.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But we have to take a stronger stance, speaker, because
what I'm finding out across the country, it's usually.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Up to the states to take action.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
But a lot of these predators, a lot of these
men that are buying sex. One of important fact is
that I've read or heard is that American men are
the number one consumers of buying sex from children in
the world. What does that say about us as American men,
that that's what we're known for, the number one consumers
of buying sex from children. So I think we've really
(31:11):
got to figure out ways to help men. And maybe
these are some sort of perverse addictions, but help is
out there, and we can provide help, and we need
to stop, and we need to increase the laws in
certain states. A lot of these traffickers, a lot of
these buyers of sex from kids, I call them rapists.
They get a slap on the wrist, it's not even
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a felony. They plead down from a felony to a misdemeanor.
And it's hard to really capture these predators, these pedophiles,
but we've been looking the other way for a long time,
and attorney generals and prosecutors they need to prosecute these
crimes and not plead down because they're tough cases to prove.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I want to thank you for joining me because with
your passion and your commitment, there are a lot of
young people who are gonna be safe who otherwise would
be very very badly damaged and in some case is killed.
And I want to let our listeners know they can
find out more about Kids Not for Sale by visiting
Kids Not for Sale dot Org, which we'll have on
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our show page. And I want to wish you well.
I'm so glad as a citizen that you have agreed
to join HHS work for the entire country, and I
think you're going to have a big impact, and we're
going to do all weekend to help you. So thank
you very much for being with me today.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Thank you, speaker. God bless you and your family. And
I'll do my best to protect not only your family,
but everyone's family in America. That's what it's all about.
And I need to pray a lot, and I need
to seek God's wisdom and guidance. I'm going to do
everything I can speaker, so you and your wife please
keep me in your alls prayers too.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Thank you to my guest Kevin Malone. You can get
a link to Kids Not for Sale on our show
page at newtsworld dot com. Newtworld is produced by Englishree
sixty and iHeartMedia, our executive producers. Going to our researcher
is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the show was created
by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team at ganlishtreet sixty.
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