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Speaker 1 (00:06):
NFL. Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is
week two of the Cover Zero NFL podcast. And of
all the locations that I've done a show, I can
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tell you what I've never done one before, and that's
where I am today. I am in the instelling Bach,
South Africa, at a ranch outside of Cape Town, ready
to go. It is local time one. Am here with
Drew Franklin, who is in Louisville. Billy is in Kentucky
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as well. Drew, you know what, I stay up for you,
And I don't know if anyone else in this town
I'm in is watching the NFL today. But I was.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
First and foremost glad to see you, Billy. And I
weren't sure that this whole international connection we have set
up here would work, But it's working. Do they have
red zone South Africa where you? Well they do.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Actually I don't know if the NFL should hear this,
but if you get what is it? A virtual personal network?
So I bought it was twelve ninety nine and uh
it says I'm in New York and I guess the
people here in South Africa were did not did not
dispute it, So I actually I have got it. It's kind
of nice to be able to be here. You walk outside,
I mean it's it's it's march here, right, so if
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you were to do the weather thing, so it's a
little chili outside, a little cold. This is I'm staying
on a This is a wine ranch, like where they
make I guess it's not a ranch. You don't call
a wine ranch. And what a vineyard? Is that what
you would call? Okay, then your winery. Yeah, it's like
a wine vineyard. Flew to South Africa fifteen hours. Fifteen
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hour flight. True, that's a long flock. Now how long
you think a fifteen hour flight is? But it's longer
than that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So oddly, I know a lot of people want hear
our NFL talks. I want to know what a fifteen
hour flight is, Like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean, is it just movie?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Movie?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Movie?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So here's what I did. Got on. The flight started
at nine o'clock out of out of Newark. The guy
got out a little late, and the pilot comes on
and goes, all right, we're gonna make up some time
in the air, which I think is a really funny
thing for a pilot to say, like, just do that anyway,
just go fast, It's fine, but we we go. This
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is how long a fifteen hour flight is. I watched
the movie The Drop. Have you ever seen The Drop?
I don't know. It's a good movie with it. It's
got the woman from White Lotus, the you know, the
woman from season two, the blonde woman who has kid
that has different color eyes than the dad. Okay, so
it has that woman a dude that I'm not familiar with,
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and they go on a date and she keeps getting
dropped messages from someone who's threatening her that keeps dropping,
and they know he's in the restaurant because it strites great.
So I watched that. Then I watched not one, but
two episodes of Gilded Age, and I'm like, okay, flight
must be over now, and there are still nine and
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a half hours to go after that. That is how
long a flight to South Africa is. You can watch
an entire movie, two Gilded Age episodes and you're not
You're barely a third of the way there.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So do you, like, do you get up and walk around?
I'd worry about my legs, like you just do? Do
yoga in the in the aisle there, how do you stretch?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Point? At what point I stretched? I was sitting next
to you know, I I just blurged a little bit.
So I was a business class and there was a
South African family. Uh there there were two parents that
were very obnoxious. I'm just gonna go on record as
saying kids should not be allowed to fly first class.
Like when you're a kid, you shouldn't get that experience, right,
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I mean, they give them like a razor and lotion.
What's a kid gonna do with that? Make your kids
sit in economy first class? Yeah, their legs aren't as long.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
They barely touched the end of the seat as it is.
Put them, put them in the overhead bed. Actually, don't
even give them a seat. I'm not if I would
make my kids sit acon. You need to learn a lesson, kid.
You do not get to sleep, you know, you don't
get to sit up here. So they got on the plane.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
They started snoring immediately, and I just was staring them
down angry.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I walked around, did a little stretching, tried not to
you know, stick my button people's faces while I was stretching,
But it was good. It's a long flight. I mean,
what's weird is you leave New York and it's nine
pm and it's dark, And when I landed in Johannesburg
it was seven pm the next day and dark, so
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I never saw any sunlight. A day just completely escaped
without me seeing it. That was kind of strange.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Just a day off, your life gone, just gone, nothing
to show for.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's just what I could have accomplished in that day
instead I was sitting on that on the plane. But
we're here. It's a beautiful, beautiful cut. I haven't gotten
to do a lot because then I got here and
immediately I'm at this conference and I was like, all right, everybody,
I gotta go. I gotta go watch the NFL for
a podcast, which is exactly what people want to do
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in South Africa. I'm gonna be here for the next
two and a half weeks, so our next four episodes
will all be me somewhere in South Africa.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, so far, so good. On the technology standpoint, we
were a little concerned heading in, but you sound loud
and clear and glad to be linked.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Up with you from the other studies. To be in
like the other side of the world and still get
to hear I an equal on the Titans game. I
had them all day. I want you to think about
for a second. You know, it wasn't that long ago.
It was only like one hundred and fifteen years ago,
was when the first flight took place. And you know,
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back then you couldn't even talk to somebody unless they
lived on your street, Like you didn't even know there
was anybody else in the world. And now you can
get on a plane, fly to the other end of
the world, and it's as if Iron Eagle is still
on your lap the whole time. Not that he's on
my lap in Kentucky often. I'm just saying it still
feels it still feels good that's able to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And I mean, who else would you want to take
with you all around the world except Iron Eagle.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He could fit in the overhead compartment. I had something
to say.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
About that later because he was on my Titans game.
But it's good. You got to stay in.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Touch with those You make me say that about him,
that it was a very nice nice at all. Well,
so you know, we watched a lot of the games
going through I want to go through them with you.
I picked out six that I thought were kind of
the biggest games of the day with the biggest storylines,
and then we'll run through the rest of them here
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over the course of the next hour. All right, let's
just started here. Two games to begin. We'll do the
Cardinals and the Panthers a little bit later. But Chiefs
and Eagles Super Bowl rematch just finishes and you get
a win by the Eagles twenty seventeen. Patrick Holmes throws
a deep pass late, but they can't get a stop
and the Eagles win. I think the storyline in this
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game is the drop by Travis Kelsey that leads to
an interception. If he catches that, there's a very good
chance that the Chiefs win the game, because they were
driving to score and take the lead, ends up turning
the other way. Eagles score a touchdown. Twenty ten? Was
this the day drew the music died? Is this the
day that the era that we love Patrick Trevy Andy
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and his mustache? Does it end today? With that drop?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You know, he's got a lot of criticism.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Trevy, by the way, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
He's gotten a lot of criticism. A lot of people
are like, man, just retire, Go be a billionaire with
your soon to be wife, and I want him to
beat those allegations. I want him to be like, I
got a little bit more left, but I got to
be honest as a fan. First game, he runs into
Worthy and hurts some Second game, this perception on the
goal line was horrible, even kind of like threw it
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up a little bit where it could get caught by
the Eagles. He has two huge errors for a thirteen
year veteran in two games. I'm worried that there are
there is some truth to that. Kelsey should have just
gone and shut it down.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Is it just married life? I mean, you're you're you're married.
I'm not. You've been engaged. You know when you get engaged,
I know your priorities change. Is it just married life?
Or is it that he's old. I don't want him
to go out like this. I like him, and I
don't we need to go out with her at the
super Bowl and him there and it's like a music video.
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He can't go out finishing seven and ten and being
replaced by a younger version of him. Right that dates
Tate mccry.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Look at Tate McCray mintioned on covers, Look at that
we skew young, Let's go Tate mccry.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I don't think I know who that is, but I've
heard the name.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm so young that as soon as we're done here,
I'm going to a Google Goo Goo Dolls concert.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You'll know, the Blues Travelers opening, So I'll tell you
all on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's true, right after the ship We're Going Crazy is
played at the Yogurt Store tomorrow, so I'm going back.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But I don't I don't need Kelsey to ride off
into the sunset with a ring and Taylor Swift performing
and it's this big NFL love story at the super
Bowl coming up. I just need him to not run
into Xavier Worthy and not babble a pass on the
goal line that absolutely changed that game. That's what makes
it so sad. If they make the playoffs and get
knocked out in the first round, that's the end whatever.
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He had a good run, but it's sad seeing the
two mistakes that he's made in the first two weeks
of this season.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, you know, if it is the case that time
is ended for Taylor and that it's he's going to
be replaced by someone new and exciting. I have another idea.
I feel like NFL Cover zero can then replace New
Heights as well. Let me make the case, all right,
you and I are not brothers. Boy, we've known each
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other long enough that we're almost like brothers. I am
kind of the louder one. You're the funnier, nicer one.
You're funnier, nicer, You have the beard, you have a
you have a married life, you can slay. I could
see you going through a table. I do not date
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a pop star, but I did pick broccoli out of
Natalie and Brulia's teeth one Time's Travis Matt Taylor true story,
which is essentially the same as Mary Taylor's with so
uh no, I'm sorry, not nat They're not the same people.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I'm written.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You pick, you pick food out of so many pop
stars teeth they all run together.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Who's Natalie That is a person? Though?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Is that she's opening for Blues Traveler at the concert
I'm going to next.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So I mean that's close to Natasha betting Field. But anyway,
I actually have done that. So I feel like Travis
exits football, we take over New Heights, and Natasha betting
Field and I can have the next celebrity wedding. Do
you like the idea?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think this is perfect. I mean, if I'm them,
I'm shaking in my boots. Look at this podcast right now,
knowing that Natasha, betty Field, Natalie Imbruia got broccoli picked
out of her team, and that dollar tree Jason Kelsey.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Here is ready to go. You are a little bit
of a dollar tree, Jason Kelsey, I throw it out
a little more. I need to get I need to
get a mustache and then I'll just I'll be exactly
like Travis. But Eagles get the wed there too? And
oh are you? Are you out on the Chiefs yet?
Oh and two, it's only like ten percent of the
teams that going to ever make the playoffs? Are you done?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I was?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I had them in the playoffs, But this is a
Bills or Ravens AFC for me. That it's it's turned
in the last year or two. But I don't have
them as bad as they they are off to the
start the Z and too. They got to be better
than this. They're not a super Bowl contender for me.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean, both things have been close, and they've played
good teams. I mean, but let me let me read
you their next few games. All right, So they've got
the Giants on the road, gotta win that. Then they
host the Ravens. Not easy. Then at the Jaguars host,
the Lions host, the Raiders host the Commanders, go to
the Bills.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's a nasty schedule, and go to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean that's a that is a brutal schedule. Let
me just say, like them making the playoffs is not
a shirt, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I mean they've won that division for several years in
a row. I mean the Broncos look good. Chargers already
beat them. You're down a game to the Chargers, sule.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
In terms of games that I would say they're definitely
gonna win, Like, no question. You got the Giants, the Titans,
but the everybody else they play is good. Like I mean,
they they the season from Hell is at least on
the table.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Even that at Jacksonville. I mean they should win that,
but I mean it's a it's not a lock.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Gotta win next week Giants is a must win. If
they lose, then I will take over for Travis Kelsey.
All right, now we'll go to Seahawks, Steelers. Okay, kind
of fact, Yeah, all right, Billy, you got it. We're
gonna for each of these games, we're gonna do a
fun fact from Billy, at least from the good games. Billy,
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what's your fun fact? For Eagles Chiefs?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Since twenty twenty one, the Eagles have run the tush
push one hundred and fifty times. They did it twice
in the fourth quarter back to back times to score
a one yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
How many of those hundred and fifty of they've gotten.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Don't have that number, but the next close.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So that's that is not that great interesting because what
if they hadn't gotten it any of the times? I
mean I could have gone zero for one hundred and
fifty on it.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, I just hate it. Just a boring play?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Do you hate it? Why do you hate it?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh, let's just let's all do a quarterback sneak and
push the guy in front of us. Exciting play.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So you just you want excitement? You don't care?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Effect doesn't do it for me?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, it's so's to go on the record, Billy is
against the tush push. I generally speaking, I have always
been of the view stop it. And then they got
rid of the shift in baseball and it made baseball
objectively better once they did it. I'm kind of the
point that I think we got to start considering getting
ready of toush push because it makes these third and ones
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and fourth and ones for Philadelphia just completely uninteresting.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, especial when they get two looks at it. I
was all for it that they found a little bit
of a way to game the system. Clearly they have
an advantage that no one else figured out. But it
is to the point where maybe we should tighten up
the rules a little bit where they can't get away
with it.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Don't do it as well as they do, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That's that's why part of me wants to give them
credit for figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah I do. There's there's part of me that said, look,
it's not like every team can do this, so maybe
they should be rewarded. I think they end up keeping it.
But this morning time here for all things.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Cheeks all right.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Second game of the day, probably the wildest one drew
Cowboys beat the Giants in overtime forty thirty seven. I
know you're a secondary Cowboys fan, but amongst Cowboys Giants game,
this has got to be one of the craziest. What
three touchdowns in the last couple of minutes. I have
a sixty four yard field goal, you have an interception
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that was completely unnecessary to give the game to Dallas.
What a wild win and one that for the Giants.
That one's got a stink after.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Sunday Night football last week, I thought we had our
game of the year. But I'm ready to replace it
in Week two a Bills. I know, I know Cowboys
Giants doesn't have the impact of that game, but just
from a sheer entertainment standpoint, this game was seventeen to
sixteen at the end of the third quarter. They went
on a score forty four more points, just trading licks
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back and forth. It's a long touchdown to Wan del Robinson,
Neighbors with a bomb Dak leading them back the other way.
They're just trading licks and it looks like when Neighbors
gets the touchdown, they've gone up three and there's not
enough time left for the Cowboys to have an answer.
But Brandon Aubrey and these new kicker football kickers, is
I don't understand sixteen three yards and as a Cowboys fan,
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it's the last leg of my parlay. Also and my
survivor pick with you all. So I'm fully invested, and
I'm livid because I thought Schottenheimer messed up. They he
hands off a draw instead of trying to go farther
to settle for a sixty four yard field goal, even
awn yard field goal. Even the announcers are like, what
are they? This is kind of a gamble. They could
have gotten a few more yards. But then in Aubrey,
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well exciting game.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Here is how I was at a dinner and we
had a South African journalist speaking, and I had made
a deal with the leader of my group that I
was going to go ahead and have Red Zone on
my phone under the table. Okay, so uh, you know,
which is what you do. You don't want to have
it on the table when a South African journalist is
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speak is speaking with you, you have it under the table.
So I would look down like I was looking at
my feet, but I was watching Red Zone and Wandell
Robinson scores that touchdown for the Giants, and you know
he was he went to Kentucky, which is which is
our school. And I got excited and kind of hit
the person next to me and said wan Dell, and
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the person next to me is a woman that I
don't think has ever watched football before, and she had
to look like, Okay, no reason to hit me. And
I don't know what that means. And it was like
a love tap on the leg, but uh, yeah, you
shouldn't do that because I lost service and I didn't
get to see the end, and so I missed the
insanity and it came right back on when we had
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the sixty four yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, I think one Delle's touchdown came with two minutes left.
Kentucky guy that was sharing from the Cowboys. I also
yelled at Wandell. I was upset. I thought that was
the game. No, there was still two more touchdowns after that,
and the sixty four yard field goal in in overtime.
We didn't mention this yet. The Giants were in a
no loose scenario.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They have the ball, You're not gonna lose. The Keynair,
at least, in my opinion, is do not lose. And
they found a way to do the one thing you
would do, which is throw an interception and loose.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And Russell had such a great game otherwise, over four
hundred yards, the big throws to Robinson and neighbors in
the fourth quarter, but he just basically punted to the
Cowboys on a deep ball into double coverage that didn't
stand a chance. I mean, the Cowboys secondary basically calls
a fair catch, waiting for the ball to land in
his arms. It was such a love throw to him,
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and then Dak eads him down for Arbuty to kick
the game winner. So you will look for Russ.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
If you, well, do you feel like I mean, Russ
played pretty well until that. Uh, there there were fans
all week wanting Jackson Dart. I don't think you go
to him yet, right, I mean, even though they're only
too rusty enough to keep the job, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, Russell looked really good the interception aside. Up until
that point, he didn't have any turnovers, three touchdowns. There
was a moment where dark came in the game for
one play and even the announcers thought they were making
a coaching change.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But it's just kind of a coaching chase, a quarter change.
I think they should make the coaching change.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
They even fooled the announcers because they're like, oh, they're
benching Russell Wilson and he's having a good game. That
is weird, but it was a one off. But the
crowd did get into a little bit when Dark came in,
but it was just one step there.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, I think you keep Russell and for the Cowboys,
that's a big win that keeps their fan base from
from losing it. I still don't understand, like on that
last overtime drive, I still don't understand coaches and time management. Uh,
it's awful, even from even from NFL coaches, they don't
understand it. The one thing you got to do there
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either tie or lose or excuse me, tie or win.
The one thing you're not going to do is lose.
And the Cowboys found a way to do it, and
that's part of the reason are seeing. The Giants found
a way to do it, and that's one of the
reasons that they, you know, have the problems that they do.
Bengals get a win against the Jaguars. We'll talk about
the game, but the big story is Joe Burrow apparently
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a toe injury, likely out for a few weeks. The
Bengals are two to zero, though, so after years of
starting poorly, if you're ever going to have a time
to lose your quarterback for a little bit. This is it,
but they end up still winning the game. I do
think that's important because these are games. If you look
at Week one and two, those are games in the
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last five years, Bingles have lost that game time and
time and time again, and this time they win it.
You know, Jake Browning is this. Jake Browning goes ninety
two yards on the five old drive. Jake Browning may
not have to buy Skyline Chili in that town for
a long time, right.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He looked pretty sloppy until that point, but when he
put the game winning drive together to put them up
two to oh on the year, you know it's a
big game. But either team could have gone to oh
and Jake Browning does it for the Bengals. Sadly, Bingles
fans have kind of gotten used to Jake Browning because
they don't have a good job of Burrow. But a
huge win for the Bengals, and no surprise that Jamar
Chase got going especially early with Burrow after last week
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that offense looked so bad. The Bengals at least got
thirty one points and look to have some Jake Browning.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let's take about Jake Browning for a second. Jake Browning.
I'm gonna give you some Jake Browning facts, all right,
because I love when a good backup quarterback comes in
Jake Browning. Do you know where he was drafted? Oh? Like,
where to which? What team? Oh? I have no clue
where he was drafted. He was not drafted. He was
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as an undrafted free agent from the Minnesota Vikings. Do
you know where he went to college? I know he's
Pack twelve, former Pac twelve. He's all good call Washington, Washington.
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I was saying it as you said. I'm counting that
he went to Fulsome High school in California, home of
Fulsome Prison Blues.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That's right. The Johnny Cash song was sung in his home,
his home county. I had no word if he actually
went to Fulsome prison at any point. He has the
national record for most touchdowns in high school. That's probably
something you didn't know. And this is kind of interesting.
He committed the University Washington. He got a degree in business,
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and he was direct This is on his Wikipedia. He
was directly admitted to the Foster School of Business as
part of his recruitment. Apparently that's a hard school to
get in. At Washington. They went ahead as part of
his recruitment and guarantee in him admission into the diff
occult class at the Foster School of Business. Should that
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be in a legal recruiting violation?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, that makes me angry. I have a personal story here.
Not only did he make the NFL, which is against
the odds, I got denied business school and I had
to write a letter to get accepted. Luckily they accepted
my letter. But I had to go to like this
second step and beg to get in. I mean you
went to business school. Yeah, I got in College of
Business for undergrad and I started to go get my
MBA and then this little job called Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Sports Dad, I'd like to see what you would have
done with your MBA.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, Jake Browny, but I can't get into business school
and they're just giving him admission just to come play football.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You also didn't break Mattie Mock's high school football touchdown record.
Travis Hunter big pass interference there towards the end of
the game, and then Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen. Listen,
I've seen the hand gestures and facial expressions of couples
that are on the Rocks. I've seen when they look
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at each other and then go shut up. I don't
want to hear it. This is week two for them,
and they already have a look of a couple that
I'm going to start thinking, you know what, I'm not
sure if this is gonna work.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, and I did some snooping on the Jaguars Twitter,
the Jaguars message board. Those things do exist. By the way,
there's a Jaguars message board. Yeah, they're very worried about
the Cohen Lawrence connection. They thought they had this great
offensive mind coming in to get Lawrence back on the
right track. But a little bit of a disappointing after
he's a college star looking like it's in trouble already.
(24:39):
I don't know which one's got to go, But those
two aren't on the same page. You got Cohen hitting
them in the chests like this. Well, I changing the play.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Cohen needs to chill out, all right. So he was
doing that Wolf of Wall Street like Liam stopped. Dude,
You like, stop it, Liam, you are a don't work alright,
we know it. The NFL guys, it's the same thing
with Mike McDaniel. Dude's coaching in Florida. Just be the
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dork you are. Stop trying to be a tough guy.
If I was Trevor Lawrence, you know, Trenor Lawrence with
that hair, to go through life with that hair, he's
a lot tougher than Liam, I would just tell him
Liam stop it and then and just act like a
dorky coach and not like a tough football guy. They
do look in trouble. Although they scored twenty seven. I
still think the Jaguars are going to win that division
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depending on what happens. Now for each of these games,
as we said, we're gonna have Billy's fact of the game.
I actually skipped over the Cowboys Giants. What was your
Cowboys Giants fact? Billy?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, the Giants have struggled in that series. They've lost
nine consecutive games on the road versus Dallas and now
overall sixteen of the last seventeen games played, and.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Dallas hasn't even been that good during that period of time.
Sixteen of the last seventeen. That's pretty bad, all right.
So now, Bengals Jaguars, what's your fun fact for this one?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, it's been slow starts lately for Cincinnati and Zach Taylor.
But Cincinnati is now two and oh the first time
since twenty eighteen. And to go along with that game,
Travis Hunter had eighty one snaps, forty two on offense,
thirty nine on defense.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you blame that for the past interference there at
the end?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Do I blame him?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Or asking Drew? But you could jump in too if
you want to do if do you blame it, you
blame I mean eighty one snaps, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, and I know it's it's fun to see someone
do this and try to go both ways. They need
to lock him in on offense. I know he played
a lot more defense last week after played six snaps
a week ago, but there's been a couple mistakes. It's
like that is just asking so much of a person
to know two positions in the NFL and not just
know them, like, be it actual he's a starting receiver
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in the second quarterback, Like that's too much to ask
a p I'm not even sure.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I don't know that I see the value yet because
I'm not sure that he's a lead at each of
them yet. My question would be, are you gonna ever
if you're playing in a Super Bowl are you gonna
blame eighty one place? If the answer is no, then
why are you doing it now? Right? I think I
think it makes much more sense to pick one side
than put him in spots on the other. But to
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try to do that like he did tonight, I think
you're gonna get that result most of the time. But
congrats to the Bengals. W win and we'll see what
happens with Burrow. Luckily it's not an injury. It seems
like they will keep him out for the year. But
the Bengals have a two and zero start, so that
will help Patriots and Dolphins. Dolphins look like most of
the game they were gonna be able to win this
end up losing it at the end. You know this
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was to me, I don't know, man to that interception
was awful. I know his offensive line doesn't do any
any help, but I think to A I don't I
don't know, man. I feel like the Tua era is
coming to an end, and it makes me sad.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I thought that last week. I thought, literally they were
just gonna shut down the Dolphins organization a week ago.
If they game it were better this week, much better.
Now they were a red zone watch for me. So
I only saw when we're cutting to them because something's happening.
But they're put up a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
There's a lot of stuff happened to go back to
back return touchdowns. You don't ever see that got them
in back to back? Which do you like the new rule,
by the way, that seems to encourage guys to run
it out. I don't. I have to tell you, I
don't understand the rule. It seems like guys stand still
and then some old man on the sideline goes, okay,
now you can go, and they kick it short. And
I can't figure out the logistics of it, but it
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does seem to make it more exciting.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I'm still getting used to that. I have it come
to a complete verdict on it if I like it
or not. I think I lean I missed the old way,
but I understand for safety while they had to do it.
But you mentioned the back to back returns in this game,
it's like a seventy four yard pump return. Guys going crazy,
swings momentum and the Dolphins away and then boom, Patriots
kick return the other way. That was one of my
favorite moments of the day. If Red zone just happen
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to be on that getting to I think the kick
return was one hundred yards, so you got two yards.
I'm nearly linked to the field return now, making it
to whar I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I guess the goal is to pin them at the
like one yard line when they catch it every time,
and it leads to a lot more excitement. I mean,
I think they had more returns in Week one than
they had in the first three or four weeks combined
last year, and then you get these kicks this year.
I think the kicking game is now the return game
is part of football against so I like it. Patriots
(29:29):
one and one, Dolphins are zero and two. We definitively
said to Dolphins were the worst team in the NFL
last week. Are you are you gonna change that?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'll admit I'm guilty, and we know there's overreactions after
Week one. I was ready to shut down the Dolphins
forever and really cut off Miami from the rest of
the state of Florida. They look so bad, but much
better showing today gets the Patriots. You know they're not
a playoff team, but they aren't absolute suck like they were.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I still think they're the worst team. I think you're
gonna end up with the situation about three or four
weeks two is not playing anymore, and they're gonna be hideous.
I'm gonna go ahead and predict they're finishing three and fourteen,
because look at they're still the worst team. Are you know?
You think there'll be somebody worse than three or fourteen?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Saints really suck and the Titans come.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, but it's gonna be hard. Like you look at
that Miami schedule, find me wins. It's not easy. It's
not easy to find a bunch of them. This was
I mean home against the Patriots was one of the
ones you've thought like they might have the best chance. Billy,
what's your fun fact?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
New England scored thirty points in a game for the
first time since October of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
That can't be true. Really, that's it yet, Billy, that's
not true. I'm throwing a child. It's funny that you're
telling me they have scored points since October twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's a good stat, Billy. Efcaccurate.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Billy.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
If that's listen, if that stat is accurate, then I'm
going to bring you back some famous stelling Bach wine,
because apparently it's very famous. I didn't know it this
was even a city, but apparently Stellingbock wine is known
for it's taste, and Billy, if if I don't think
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that fact is right, can you double check that.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I will double check and I will start to look
up Stellenbach to see what flavor of wine that i'd like.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is that red wine.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't want Billy to spill red wine on a
state lege Jersey om.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know we have both ralige. It's s t O
E L l E N S b O E c H.
That's how you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I was trying to follow that. That was a lot
of letters, So I was trying to.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Keep up with That was a lot. Wait a minute,
I still got more letters to come. That was just
the first half.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Was backing up in gifts on this podcast. By the way,
this is we keep the shirta.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, So they tell you and by the way, one
of the things they tell you in South Africa when
you're in I was in Johannesburg last night. They're like,
do not go out in Johannesburg at night without someone
with you, Like, don't don't walk down the streets, et cetera.
And they get you to where they're almost You're kind
of scared, right, like, what could possibly what could possibly
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be happening? So I'm staying in this hotel, Drew. There's
a yogurt store directly across the street. I can see it. Okay,
we're in like a neighborhood. Literally, this could be anywhere
in America. You would see the yogurt and you would
see the place, and you go, I can go get
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that yogurt. Right. So I walked the front desk and
I say, I'm gonna go walk and they go, where
are you going? And I was like, well, first of all,
none of your business, right, money business. I'm a free man, right,
I'm for it. I said, I'm going across the street
to get yogurt. And they go, we'll send somebody with you,
(32:58):
and I went, what with you? I'm not a child's
right there? And I said that won't be necessary, and
they're like, and because I'm thinking they're wanting to tip, right,
That's what I'm thinking. So I said it's not necessary.
They're like, okay. So then I walk across the street.
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Well it cursed to me as I'm walking across the street.
Maybe this is really bad, but they are if they
don't even want me to walk across the street, well,
walk across street. Walk in the yogurt store. Beautiful yogurt store. Okay,
the kind of yogurt store that when you think about yogurt,
you think about this place. I walk up to the
front this counter. The woman goes, how did you get here?
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I said, I walked across the street, and she gave
me a look like whoa. I didn't know I had
mister Brave here. So she asked me what I wanted,
and I said I would like one scoop of strawberry
yogurt and a strawberry lemonade. And then she looks at
me and goes, okay, mister strawberry, which I thought, well,
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there's no need to judge my order like that. What's
wrong with two strawberries? But now they've kind of freaked
me out, Drew. I have my yogurt, I have my lemonade.
There's no one around, but now I'm scared to leave
the yokres And I walk outside and the man from
the hotel runs across the street to meet me to
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walk me back to the hotel. And I have to
tell you for my purposes it was fined. But now
I do have to wonder, like, what is happening at
this yogurt store where everyone is so scared about just
walking to the yogurt store.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Matt died doing what he loves. You're going to get
South African yogurt across the street.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Mister Strawberry died the way he loved to live.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Did you consider getting the security for the trip back
after a second opinion has told you this is well?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
They did. At the moment, I thought it was so
ridiculous that I wouldn't walk across the street. But then
you know, you start to think, and you go, maybe
this is this yogurt source just all on elaborate plot.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It's up front for kidnapping. Its yogurt gate in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So if I just with a record, if I were
to disappear the next two and a half weeks, first
place I would look is at the yogurt store in Johannesburg.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Billy, we'll follow the trails.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Strawbery's your stab, correct?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It is the last time the Patriots scored thirty points
October sixteenth, twenty twenty two at the Cleveland Browns. They
won thirty eight to fifteen. The most points the Patriots
scored in one game last year was twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Wow, that's amazing. That's a that isn't offensively a net team.
If that becomes your your most amount of points, all right, Seahawks, Steelers.
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This is the Aaron Rodgers that I was hoping for
this year. And Aaron Rodgers that throws two interceptions, has
a day's look in his eye, makes Mike Tomlin punt
because he's worried that he's not going to be able
to convert any fourth downs. This is the Aaron Rodgers
I signed up for, not the Aaron Rodgers we saw
last week throwing it all over the field. I'm mad.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I'm mad. Matt I ranked the Steelers as my thirty
second watchable team. I said they're gonna suck Aaron Rodgers
has done. Then last week they look like a Super
Bowl contender, made my take look terrible. And then this week,
even though they weren't just they weren't horrible, but Rodgers
did throw two interceptions. You lose the game I thought
they should have won. I think maybe a little bit
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of an overreaction from Week one this Steelers are probably
a playoff contender team, but not one of the elite
AFC fighting for an actual run team.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Seahawks did what the Seahawks did, what probably the jet
should have done more of last week, which put pressure,
just pressure pressure. Aaron Rodgers does not want to be hit.
It's clear when you get old, there's some things that
don't go well for you. When I will tell you this,
when I got off that plane after that fifteen hour flight,
my back was left in Mogadishu like it. It hurt
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and it took a while. That's what happens when you
get old. Aaron Rodgers does not want to get fall
to the ground. He doesn't want to get hit. You
got to bring the pressure. Seattle did that and they
get the win. Are they like sneaky? Potentially really good?
I mean, that's a good win to go on the
road and win at Pittsburgh. Hey, by the way, but
it's but it's still a very good win.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And I mean a week ago you'll you lose on
an improbable completion there in the end zone. They should
be two and oh right now, yeah, and really threatening.
They're looking good. The Darnold experience has a little bit
of legs a little bit. But on the Steelers end,
they have like win now mode because Rogers, we can
all agree, doesn't have a lot left.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I don't think it's a long term option.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
But I mean they also paid a lot of money
for Jalen Ramsey, who probably don't have a lot left.
He's looking good right now, but he's also an older guy.
You went out and you get DK Metcalf. He's young,
but he was expensive. So they're all in on kind
of winning immediately.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And they're going to be just good enough to not
get one of the top picks. So it's gonna be
It's just a I'll never understand why they did. Aaron
Rodgers I thought last week after he played well, I
might eat my words. This was more kind of what
I expected all along. Billy fun Fact on Steelers Seahawks, Well.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, and Caleb Johnson turning his back on that kickoff
was bizarre too. But the Steelers were outscored in the
final two quarters twenty four to three. It's the first
time the Steelers have given up thirty points in consecutive
games since November of twenty twenty one. So trouble in
Paradise when it comes to Steelers to get you.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I mean, I love when you come up with all
these Well I want to ask. I don't want to
know how the sausage is made. I don't want to
know where Billy's getting these numbers. I want to think
that are they? Are you go next Gin.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Some scribul screw a little next gen? Okay, the first
part of the screen that you can watch without subscribing.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yes, you go to next Gin and you read the
part of the article that's.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Really we just get like the summary, and then maybe
a couple of bull points on the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Oh, we gotta get you to log in.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Come on. I love it so like people can predict
the Billy stat of the game by just going not
logging in and whatever you see there, Billy's gonna be
using one of those.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
All that, we'll have all that info every week.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Glad didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
We'll get you follow the paywall eventually.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, well, we're gonna have to get a second season.
I think first before that, forty nine Ers and Saints
Mac Jones who Mac Jones three touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Coming off the bench for Brock Party, I said the
forty nine Ers can get a cra record. They could
have lost both of these games to start the year,
but they've won them both and are two and zero. Yeah,
I think the Saints are the worst team in the league.
And I was a little worried about the Niners, even
though playing a horrible team, because their injury report was
ruthless this week, especially offensively.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's how you end up with Mac Jones. But uh,
not a drop off at all without having party. Mack
looked great, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Uh got Juwan and
Jennings and Christian McCaffrey going, so they got a little life.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
What is less intimidating than the UH play two minutes
to go When we come back, Spencer Rattler has the
ball to drive down the field and take the lead.
How many teas that was a tease that occurred today.
I have to tell you it wasn't one that I
found very compelling. Or do you was I wrong to
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kind of assume the result we got?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, But if you and if you're a Saints fan
and you have Spencer Rattler, you should have this. Well,
at least we drafted a rookie we can go to.
But how do you get excited for Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
From Louisville eight.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
He's old, so it's not like you have a guy
on the bench you're excited to, like, let's see what
he's got. I just think they're in a bad spot
in the quarterback position right on. I don't know how
you get that bat off where your options are Rattler
and Tyler Schuck. But that's what the Saints are. Luckily,
they'll have the number one pick next year with a
lot of quarterbacks on the board.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
So they will have their their choice of them next year.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Although Aldo Smyer from LSU is about to.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Be the same in college or all the guys that
everybody thought were going to be good. I mean, at
different points this year I saw arch Manning projected number one,
Leonora Sellers, Kay klutt Nick, all those guys. Not Smyer
has been okay, DJ lagway through for five interceptions. I mean,
this class that was supposed to be unbelievable quarterbacks, I
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don't know. I mean what it's the Saints save all
that up and get a and no one's good.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I actually today went to a mock draft that's not
even that old. I won't name the publication, but I
was trying to see who my Titans can get to
block for cam Ward. We'll get to that later, but
arch Manning was second on this MOG draft, and I thought, oh,
we got to get this updated after what he's done
the last time.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
But he hasn't even been as bad as some of
these other guys have been. It's a DJ Lagway with
five interceptions. Anyway, Mac Jones a choice. Nice to have
him back in our lives. As I've said, the worst
thing about Mac Jones is, you know, sometimes people think
his name is Matt Jones, and matter of fact, most
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people do. And I just get people angry at the
way he plays. And I guess they put Matt Jones
into Twitter and I'm the first name that comes up,
and they're like, screw you at KY Sports Radio. And
I always think, why would you think that that's what
Mac Jones's Twitter handle is KY Sports Radio? You think
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Mac Jones, the quarterback of the forty nine ers, would
have taken the Twitter handle Ky Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
It's not our only Matt Jones Twitter connection. I have
a great DM from Mac Jones that have to savor.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yours is better than mine. I do remember here.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm not saying mine he might laugh it out, but
he was on a visit to Kentucky. He was like
seventeen at this point. I'm probably thirty one, thirty two.
And he deems me like, where's the party at tonight?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Man?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
And I just didn't answer, like I'm not party. You're
in high school.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I'm not partying with you.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But then later it's like what up? And I just
just kind of let those sit. But then he goes
on to become a Patriot and I find them on
down the road. I'm like, you know, a young high
school Mac Jones wanted you should hang out to thirty.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Year old me, cause you'd respond to him as if
he just said it, like just like no, don't even
say you're sorry, just go where's the party at? And
you're like, let's go to uh David Busters? Mac? What
do you think? I mean?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
He was ever a time. It's now after his big day.
I should hit him up, like, hey, catch it up
on messages? So where are we at tonight?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Catch up? I like that you definitely should it. This
is your final chance in a big fun fact. What
do you got, Billy? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:10):
So the forty nine ers cut their ticker Jake Moody.
Last week they signed thirty year old Eddie Pinero, who
had eight total points, made two field goals but missed
an extra point. That missed extra point is rare because
Eddie is the fourth most accurate NFL kicker of all time,
is aj.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
This is not even a joke. When I saw they
signed Eddie Pinero, I thought he was like the winning
jockey in the nineteen eighty three Kentucky Derby. I'm not
that's not even a joke. I thought that Eddie Panero
was a jockey. I really did, because there was a
jockey someone listening to Eddie. Proto no that that's one too,
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but there's one that goes back to the eighties whose
name was something like Panero. And when I thought, I
literally thought, you mean that jockey is now kicking in
the NFL. I had no idea there was a thirty
year old Eddie Panero and then he's like one of
the most accurate kickers of all time and he's thirty.
So if you think he's one of the most acrit
of all time, you'd wonder how he didn't have a job.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Thought it was a jockey when they signed him.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Justin Tucker Harrison Butker, Chris Boswell and Eddie p As
your top four kickers career percentage wise of all time.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Well, if there's two you want to emulate, two you
want to emulate, it's Tucker and Butker. Those are not Yeah,
those are not at all controversial. Guys.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Buger's getting roasted today. He missed a phil goal extremely wide, right,
and the jokes right themselves on that one. The internet's
having a good time.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
That's right. His wife was like, you're the one who
should stay home. Let me go make the money. Colts
win on a last second field goal against the Broncos.
Danny Dimes. That's Daniel Jones to you, sir, is two
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and zero in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Can you believe it? I can't believe it. I owe
the Colts an apology. I oh our first cover zero
made fun of them. If the Titans have a rival,
it's the Colts. I hate them. I said they're gonna suck.
I said they'll have the number one pick. Then they
went on to score on their first ten possessions of
this season. It's an NFL record. No team in history,
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no quarterback in history, has done with Daniel Jones has
done with the Colts.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Scored. They scored the first ten possessions. That's an all
time NFL record by Daniel Jones. Like that is insane,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Absolutely is? It makes you wonder what was he just
wasted his time in New York? Is he really that
good of a player?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I mean Sam Darnold last year who went to a
different team and ended up playing well, Baker Mayfield a
couple of years before. Maybe there are guys who the
first time around it doesn't work. You just have to
get him into a new situation and things are better.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
How about your boy, Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
I mean, the Jets aren't going to do much, but
I don't think he's quite had the success of those others.
But yes, I mean he lost.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Than he did in Chicago. I mean it's the Jets,
they're not going to do much, but I do think
Justin Fields has taking a little bit of a step
getting a new fresh start too.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah. Two and zero Colts now the leaders in the division.
I don't really want to spend a lot of time
on this next game. Lions fifty two Bears twenty one.
My goodness, I mean everybody's going to focus on Caleb Williams.
But that Bears defense fifty two points and with that
was never competitive. That was the game I had primarily
on during my South African Journalist's talk, and I ended
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up switching it off because I mean, the Bears were pitiful.
Ben Johnson, I still believe in him, but I don't
know what he did to our defense when they came along,
or maybe he didn't bring a coordinator. That was a
pathetic performance.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Horrible timing for him. A week after the Lions scored
like thirteen points and one, there's all the talk of
was it the coordinators? Can Dan Campbell do this? Was
it Ben Johnson's offense? Then they go and score fifty
two today. They even asked Ben Johnson, was Dan Campbell
run up the score on you? And he defended him.
He's like, no, that's Dan Campbell. That's what he does.
He doesn't have like a let's doll it back. He
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goes forward on fourth. He's full speed, aggressive, like I
don't take it personal. That's what Dan Campbell is. Let
your bears up.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
So which one's the Lion's last week's thirteen points and
look to napped or this one fifty two? You're gonna
say in the middle. But let's just say it's one
of them, which one is ki I can't do in
the middle. That's that's too lame. Anybody on a podcast
can take the middle answer.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I'm going to say they're more of the fifty two,
and I know that's he'll probably go the other way
because that was a tough first game and then they're
not going to continue to score fifty two. But I
still believe in the Lions as an NFC contender.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
There's always one game in Week one that you go
back and you look at and you go that doesn't
make any sense. The Packer's gonna be really good. So
I'm not sure if that's going to be the game
we pick, but it might be because the Lions might
be really good. And then that just was a clunker
of a performance. Your Titans lose at home thirty three
to nineteen to the Rams. But then before we stay
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the show, you were like, get little giddy schoolboy drew
going cam Wart's for real? He threw a good pass.
Like is that how you feel? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I ordered a cam Ward shirt after the game, even
though we lost by two touchdowns, but two touchdown I
knew before we drafted cam Ward that it doesn't matter
who they draft him, but cam Ward has at least
given me a reason to watch them. He he does
look like the legit number one pick, a guy who
can be a franchise quarterback. I feel bad that he
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has to try to do that in Nashville, but I
am very excited about cam Ward. With all due respect
to Caleb Williams, I think if you're looking at number
one picks, cam Ward is like a real deal. That's
a number one pick Williams.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
He had one good throw today, like why.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Why good last week? To no, he looked good last week.
He had Cameron Ridley in the number last week on
third down and it hits the ground Cameron, But no,
he has no help. There's no offensive line. His running
back is Tony Pauler. Calvin Ridley is is thirty something
years old. I mean, there's no there's no there's nothing
to get excited about with the Titans since.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
You can't just down Billy. He the Titans what scored
last week? They scored thirteen today nineteen, and Drew already
has him like already has him as being the real deal.
Just for the record, I'm not saying he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well no, no, hold on, We'll never know if he's the
real deal because the Titans suck. That's my point. Cam
Ward is good, the Titans sucked like this. I'm going
to watch for him, but I don't have a lot
of faith because he has no help. There was one
receiver I never heard of today, like Elick Manora of something.
Watch out for him. He's like a track star. At
least somebody on the Titans.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Of the one Wednesday sell here too is the Elic Mayonora.
You gotta want to get the twenty fifteen vintage.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Did I know? I fann boyed a little bit, But
that cam Ward throw was nae.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
That was great throw.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
That was one of those no no, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Great great throw. Great throw. That was awesome. Raven's forty
one seventeen against Cleveland Flacco. I loved for me to
highlight the game. Was watching flac Ohs scramble at what
time when he looked he was so him trying to
run for a first down is highly entertaining. Ravens are
I think a beast of a team. I don't think
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last week changes anything on that. Would you play Dylan
Gabriel if you were the Browns got a.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Little look today. Probably Flaco's just it's it was a
fun story a few years ago, and he gave him
a little run after taking that coach flight to go
save the team from retirement. But you don't really want
to put your franchise in Joe Flacco's hand. Just let's
see what the rookie heps.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I mean at this point, why would you You're not
You're not good, So I mean again, if you were good,
you might give it a shot. You've got two rookies.
I would think you would play them both and then
see what you got. I would if it were me,
I would want to play Dealing Gabriel a few games,
shod Or Sanders a few games, and then see what
you have. Right.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, and one more thing to watch you all after me?
Week one. Guess who led the Browns receiving again Harold
fanag you here from Bowling Green. I told y'all to
watch this, and you left. This guy's coming out of nowhere.
Cover zero reported in week one he did it again,
had a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Harold Fannin Junior from Bowling Green.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
You guys laughing at me, as Brown's fans, they have
a star in the making.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
All right? All right? Did did Lamar score? By the
way today, did I get my touching touchdown?
Speaker 4 (52:27):
I don't think Johnthy Taylor and Jamar Chase did. So
we are all tied up in the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, so you two both got yours. You got Taylor
and Chase and I didn't with Lebar.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, I said this last week. Chase was the lock
of the year after two catches last week they were
going to force.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
It him and uh, I'm won on my pick. I
had the Ravens as my team. Billy, who did you have?
Speaker 4 (52:51):
Carolina?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All right? What did you have? Drew Cowboys? All right,
so we all survived. You guys took a couple I
thought chances, and we all survived. So we're all into
week three. What a rarity in uh in survivor leagues
that that would happen Bill's Jets. Billy, by the way,
you need to pick yours since you're gonna be gone Wednesday,
you need to pick your uh. Yeah, make sure you
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send it in. You have first yet, you have first pick,
so you get to pick whoever you want. Bill's Jets,
Bill's win thirty ten. I didn't see one second of
this game, So you can tell me if I missed anything.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Every time I checked on it. You know, it's a
blowout from the beginning one. I was keeping up with
a lot, but every time I looked up, James Cook
was doing something. He had a big game, had like
one hundred and thirty yards, two touchdowns. Pretty much a
breeze of a game for the Bills after what they
went through last week.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Do you Josh Allen heard his nose? Yeah? How did
he do that?
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Looked like his head went into one of his teammate's
knee and he ran off the field immediately, had to
get it checked out. And he had something stuck up
his nose when he came back.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Something stuck up his nose.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
Yeah, yeah, band aid or something.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
He had a band aid stuck up his nose.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
Or like, you know the thing. I don't think that's
one of the white.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
So tell me. The guy had a band aid on
his knee and.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
It was it's more like a cloth kind of Oh,
you're saying the don okay, hang on, you're saying the
doctor put the thing in his nose.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
He was making it sound like it fell off the
guy's knee and went into his nose.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
No, it was a tough hit. Though I thought he
might be hurt. It was Joe Burrow who was significantly hurt,
not Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, there was a second with that Josh Allen hit.
I think where it looked like Drew it could be
bad and that would have been That would have been
the end of the Bill season. But it looks like
he's okay.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Sticking a band aid up the nose does sound like
something the Bengals would do. Though, had he played there,
I saw Josh Allen said after the game, I can breathe,
We're all right, so moving on. But it was he
was pretty bloody up there and had to go.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Out for a little bit. Such a football answer. I
can breathe, so we're all right.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
I can breathe.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
That is listen, tough guy. Cardinals beat the Panthers, although
they almost blew it. I predicted, by the way on
this show last week that you will turn the Cardinals
Panthers game on for the first time with two minutes
to go, and the Panthers will be driving ran to
beat the Cardinals. And that's exactly what happened. Twenty seven
to twenty two. They have a chance. People need to
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go back and watch Bryce Young's last play, one of
the all time. He ran forty five yards backwards and
trying to make that play, then fumbled it. Cardinals went
but they almost blew it. They were up twenty seven
to three at one point in this game.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Would have been a bad loss for the Cardinals in
a year where they have a little bit optimism. Bryce
Young threw it almost sixty times. How do they think
that's gonna succeed? I mean, through it almost sixty times.
I think it's fifty five fast attempts in the losing effort.
I don't know, if your Panthers fan, what are we doing?
Like you saying the Panthers game. I forgot there was
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a Panthers game till you brought it up. It was
as good to hear Chris Myers in his flow again.
I mean, you just know Chris Myers must have a
Panther's tattoo because he he gets it every week.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
I mean he needs. I hope he gets hazard paid
because he has to watch more of those games. Kyler
Murray had another terrible interception. There's no player in the
league who's both awesome and at times makes awful decisions
more than Kyler Murray. But Cardinals twoing up.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, he's got better pieces him around them this year.
So if Kyler is ever gonna have a good year
and take a step forward, he's at least got the help.
He just has to go out and do it. So far,
so good being undefeated. So what are your big takeaways
here from week two? I think you know, go back
if you go back to the Packers Commander's game, if
you're to sort of do your top five power rankings,
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I think we'd probably both still have the Bills number one.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Are you putting the Eagles? Well, I would have had
the Eagles number one. I'm gonna probably put the Bills now.
I think I feel better about them. I'd probably go
Eagles too. Packers three, Ravens four. But to me, those
four are way ahead of everybody else. What about you,
Oh no, mine's a little different. I got Ravens too.
Even with the loss Ravens two. It was a fluke
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loss in Buffalo with the Henry fumble. I'm still I
still have faith in Baltimore, even though they do have
a loss on the resume. Really though, Eagles, Ravens, Bills
just draw one out of hat for me, I mean,
I think the are like, definitively four.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Feeling I should have included the Packers going to the year.
Those are my three, and they've proven to me right
with Mike and how good they've looked. They've elevated too.
But the Bills and the Ravens that week one just
confirmed it. I mean, that is gonna be a war
for who comes out of that conference, and I think
we're gonna get another rematch like we saw in the
first game for who gets to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Last week, you and I both had the Chiefs five.
I don't think you can put them there after losing again.
So where are you going on number five? You've got
let's see, you got two and O teams right now,
include the Bengals are two and oh the uh forty
nine ers or two and oh, the Colts are two
and o Rams are two and oh? What would you
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blip Cardinals? Which of those any of those you put
uh fifth.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Of what you just I wouldn't put them fifth of
what you just said. I'd put the Rams of the
two and O teams. But I like the one to
one Detroit better.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Than I think you know, it was against the Bears,
and it's easy to mock that, but that was such
a dominating performance today on both sides of the ball
that I think you. I think the lines at five
and honestly the lines are probably should be in the
top four groups. They just kind of laid a clunker.
So for the rest of the week, well the rest
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of the next two and a half weeks, I will
be in South Africa. I will still be here in
Stellenbach on Wednesday, Billy, I will look for the wine
of your choice. Yes, and uh, I want let me
let me correct for the listeners at home, it's s
T E L L E N b O E s
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c H. That's stelling Bosh. But we don't say Bosh,
we say bach By. We I mean South Africa, of
which you're.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
And the older people amongst them.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, I am, I am part of South That They
had a big they had a big rugby game. They
beat the All Blacks from New Zealand. Uh, they beat
them by the largest margin that they've beaten them in
the history of the of the humanity. Right like these
are the two big rugby pipe. No idea what I'm
talking about. But they are the two big rugby powers
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and they played Saturday and it was the biggest win
ever in South Africa. Uh and that people were talking
about it, I mean not to me, but just like
I could hear them talking about it everywhere, and it
was it was very exciting. I heard.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Now they're just talking about this Strawberry character walking around
across the streets like there's just not a care in
the world.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
What's the recommendations. I also have a recommendation. If you're
ever in South Africa and you're in the airport and
you need to eat, eat at the Wimpy. Okay, w
I m p Why it's called the Wimpy. They have
brecky sandwiches. Now here's what I need you to know.
Every let's see what is it? Every nineteen ryant rands,
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that's what it's called. Rand is one dollar. So you'll
see it and you'll go, man, this brecky sandwich is
eighty three rands. That seems expensive, but then drew it's
only like three dollars and fifty cents and you get
a big old brecky plate. So I highly recommend the
Wimpy in the airports in South Africa is Brecky like breakfast?
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Is it like baby talk for breakfasts? Breakfast sandwiches? In
South Africa they call Brecky's, which I think is very fun,
very cute, very cute. What he's next on your big
South African journey. Well, we're going, so we are going
to the prison where Nelson Mandela was held for all
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of those years. I'm going to Table Mountain. They have
a mountain that is over the city of Cape Town
that looks like a table, like it's up in the air,
but then it's completely flat at the top. And you know,
then I'm just gonna do things like have some more
Brecky's and be ready to rock more death.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Defying trips to get strawberry yogurt.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Well, this is we stelling back and fairly fairly safe
and Cape Town it's a Johannesburg at least, just yogurt
places in Johannesburg. Last thing before we go, since we
won't have ks hard to talk about this on. Did
you see the video of Zach Brian climbing the barbed
wire fence to try to beat up Gavin Adcock. I'm
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not a Zach Brian guy, but I'm on his side
that video. I don't even know what they're fighting about,
but that video is hilarious. And I will tell you
you do not fight a man who climbing over a
barbedire fence.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
No, a man climbing over a barbarier fence with eight
huge individuals just waiting on the other side. I don't
know much about Gavin Adcock. I admit I listened to
Zach Brian as a person. Don't really want to. Don't
know that I am a fan of him as a
human being, but I wanted him to get over that
fence so bad, just to see what the next step was.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
And I don't know who gavinad Cock is, but he's
wearing that stupid vest. He looks like I mean, he
looks he looks like a cowboy at Epcot. And and
when he's when when Zach Brian, you can see he's
walking towards the fence. And then when Zach Brian's like
starts climbing the fence, he keeps walking like, yeah, you
want some because he's like this crazy dude's not going
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to jump over this barbier fence. And then he Zack
Brian puts his hand on the barb wire, and at
that moment you could see Gavin Adcock be like, all right,
maybe I need to back up, and he did the
thing where he was like, hey, security, get in between us,
get in between us. It was great.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Gavin's biggest guy grabs him and tells him to go away.
When Zach gets like a leg over. What are they
fighting about? By the way, what are they upset about?
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
This Gavin Adcock character is just throwing throwing uh uh
insults everywhere. You know, got Charlie Crockett, he's in a
fight with him. I guess, well, he's kind of bro
country and he's kind of take Charlie Crockett is country country?
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Well that kind of bro country too, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, that's why it's also stupid. I think Gavin ad
Cotts is doing it to get his name out there
a little more.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
He almost says the kids would say breaking around and
found out because he how would you say this, Zach
Bryan a new level of scared of for me. He
put his hands on that barbed wire like a crazy man.
I'm staying away. Well, Billy, thank you all. It is
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two o'clock in the morning here as stelling box I'm
going to go to bed and uh, you guys waking
up Monday. I hope you've enjoyed the show and we
will see you Wednesday. This has been NFL cut from Zero.
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