February 10, 2023 • 32 mins
The NFL Gameday View podcast focuses on all things Super Bowl! The podcast begins with a look at which offensive player you're watching out for and then New Orleans Saints defender Cam Jordan joins the show to offer his thoughts on the Super Bowl. Later, they discuss over/under's Super Bowl edition, they select their Super Bowl winners, and then they pick their Super Bowl MVP's.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NFL Game Debut is a production of the NFL in
partnership with I Heart Radio. Welcome to Arizona, everybody, all
come to Game Debut. This is the fun. This is
the finale. Uh. I know I'm gonna keep on seeing
you guys, but I'm gonna miss you on this certain show.
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How are you feeling? Like any finale, We're gonna have
to leave like a very personal cliffhanger at the very end,
So stay tuned. I don't know what that means. Maybe
Greg's got something playing that we don't know about. Okay, guys,
let's get to the season standings. Alright, the regular season.
It simply does not matter. Okay, it all comes down
and there's some major there's some major things on the
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line here. Cynthia and Greg aren't tied. I don't know
what you guys are picking later on in the show,
but this is I don't either Man versus model really
is the whole time? This is the model? Uh. Okay,
you know we're not gonna give you guys a trophy.
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It doesn't exist, but um, I want you to fight
for it. Anyways, Kid's time to go to uh in
it to when it presented by into it, Turbo Tax,
We've got a lot of time to kill. Okay, so
you're gonna wait until the end of the show for
us to give out our Super Bowl picks. But I
want to start with offensive player to watch for Kansas City, Greg,
I'll start with you, Okay. I'm gonna start with Isaiah Pacheco.
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I love the way this kid has been running all year,
and I love the matchup in this game against this
Eagles run defense. It's what they've struggled with all year.
The Chiefs are built for this. I don't know if
Andy Reid is built for this. Eagles fans know that
he didn't always run the ball when they wanted him
to run the ball back when he was an Eagles coach.
But he's built an offensive line that's great at it.
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I think up the middle. Yes, they had to bring
in Dominican Sue and Lynn Vaal Joseph. Those guys were
on the street for a reason. I think Pacheco is
the future. He's the now. He's gonna break tackles and
especially on the interior runs. I think Andy Reid will
be a little more patient in this game and stick
with the running game, and Pacheco has gotta do great,
do you like? I mean, we're kind of thinking along
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the same lines here because Jerick McKinnon to me is
someone to watch. Why because when he doesn't have the
ball in his hands, it's almost more important than what
happens when the ball is in his hands. Meeting picking
up those blitz is handling pressure, giving Patrick Mahomes just
one half of a second longer to figure out where
to target the football. So for me, in this matchup,
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Jerick McKinnon's used and maybe even a little like Clyde Edwards,
a layer who we saw activated, that running back situation
is going to absolutely be key because we know that
the Eagles can bring the heat, so you have to
just give a little bit the titch longer for the
play to develop. You know, I really thought about this
question offensive player to watch? You know, maybe somebody would
would She was like an X factor, somebody that we're
not really used to hearing about. I say, nay, give
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me Travis Kelsey and he is the player to watch
because we won't be able to keep our eyes off
of him. This has just been such a fun storyline
all week long. I got to talk to Donna Kelsey
last night at the Honors. She's got both of her
boys there. I mean, imagine playing your brother in the
Super Bowl. If you know, you know the Borough head
stuff really got to this team. Imagine your brother just
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on the other side, on the other sideline, just egging
you on. There is so much on the line for
him today. He's been so much fun to watch this season.
He just continues to get better and more incredible. I
have him scoring the first touch, dude, love him kind
of going off and when said off the bat, I
thought you might go Rafael Kelsey. Oh, Rafael Kelsey. Yes,
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a lot of people have been talking about him this week.
We'll get to Rafael in a little bit, but I
want to talk about the other side of the ball,
the defensive side of the ball for the Chiefs. Greg,
who do you like? Okay, I'm gonna get weird here,
you know, Chris Joe. We're gonna get a lot of
attention in the secondary. Everyone one knows. How about Mike Danna.
It's all don't expect on Super Bowl Sunday. And I
love getting interior pressure because you're gonna double team Chris Jones.
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I think the Eagles offensive line really good at the
tackle position good and on the inside, but not as good.
And Danna has been getting after He's gonna have those
one on one matchups. I think he can beat Sayamalu
and I think Jalen Hurts can leave the pocket a
little early when he gets the interior pressure. We saw
that in the NFC Championship game. And Dana is one
of those guys kind of like an a Sean Robinson
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a year ago that makes a big impact in the
Super Bowl with that interior pressure. I love that, you know,
friends and backs of defenses worked together. And we've been
talking about the rookie Isaiah Pachecko on one side, but
Trent McDuffie was their first round pick. They put him
in press coverage against oh, you know, Jamar Chase, and
he handled Jamaar Chase. That press coverage is a big
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deal in this matchup. When you look at a. J.
Brown is good at well, he's pretty good against press.
So I'm looking to see can the rookie, the guy
they have all these expectations were their first round pick.
Can he step up when the lights of the bride is,
when everything's really on the line, And I think he can.
With a name like McDuffie. Who can't you absolutely can
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Greg You already kind of mentioned my guy. He is
going to continue to get a lot of attention, and
that is Chris Jones. Uh talking about somebody who really
took this personally. Last week the Borrowhead stuff, he went
above and beyond. That was so fun to watch him
use that chip on his shoulder. And this is what
he said about the Eagles going up against the best
offensive line. I wouldn't have it any other way. He
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is ready to feast this guy. You know, I can't
wait to see. There's all these posters around here and
Chris Jones is decidedly not on as many posters, so
maybe that will be the motivation. Like the Borrowhead love stridge,
you know what it is. He's always been an Arizon,
you know, as the second best guy, but now he's
the best. Um, guys, I gotta say, I really miss Patrick.
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I really miss Patrick. Let's bring him back in to
the show from l A. Patrick. Who is your X
factor on Sunday? Who are you going? Man? Well, I'm
looking down at the bottom of that board, and you
guys have convinced me throughout the entire season. I've expressed
some some disbelief in regards some motivation. But Kadarius Tony
is at the bottom of that and he I think
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he's gonna see that, and he's gonna say game debut,
you don't respect me, You don't think you haven't seen
the way that I can play and get yards after
the catch. And but honestly, though, this Eagles defensive line,
this Eagle's front, more pressure, is more sacks than anybody
in the NFL. They have fifteen more sacks than the
next closest team. Patrick Mahomes still kind of playing on
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one leg. He's gonna need to get the ball out early.
They're gonna need to get some yards after the catch
early and often, and I think Kadarius Tony is gonna
be the best way to do that. And we don't
know how much he's gonna play, So that makes them
even more of an X factor to me. It's time
for quick kicks. But we have a new guest, Patrick,
see you later incoming, Yarden. That seemed harsh, but I'm
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so excited to have you here, Mr Incredible. No, yeah,
just take it. I'm just a Sunshine State kid. Wait
Arizona's nine A Sunshine state, but it yeah, it is
what it is. Uh. Ca'm so happy to have you
on game debut. I saw you at NFL Honors. You
had an entire choir behind you. I don't know, but
I'm a hiring for my birthday, like hit all my
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little residents. I'm like, yeah, So anyways, anyways, I'm like,
they're gonna kill it. I love it. So you're here
with NFL Rivals. Can you tell us about what that is.
NFL Rivals is a that's going to be launching in
the next few months. You know some I'm gonna say summer.
Maybe it's it's around that springtime. But it's this idea
that you can be your own coach, your own GM type.
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You gotta pick your own players, you rip you gotta
rip out your own guys, make your team nine verses
nine they go hit there, not even hit the gridiron.
Because this is real stuff. This is like nineties rules,
like people are able to like go around, like its
NFL Blitz two point oh. You know what I'm saying,
Like we're bringing it back to where football is fun.
You know, when you see a quarterback be decimated and
you gotta you gotta really have fun. With it, because
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now you gotta put it like you know, today's game,
you put a pillow down. You were in a big
time story, you know, before you hit the quarterbacks these days,
I thought it was gonna be an app about Cynthia
and I because it's gotten pretty rough this season. I
don't know if you can pick that up. I don't know,
but you can find an NFL NFL dot rivals dot
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com and we could work out some some issues after that.
You know, there's always troubleshooting. Okay, I love it all right, Well,
Cynthia got has got our glasses on, which means it's
time to really dive deep into the analytical the more
you know, stat specific questions here in business. Here, let's
talk about the coin toss folks show. Let's get into cam.
When you're out there calling it for the Saints. Are
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you a heads or tails guy? What do you? What
do you usually go with? You know what? I normally
don't go, No, no, I go. I go out there. Um,
I've done you know, I did a heads of the
tails never fails, and then like failed me and I
was like, hey, maybe I shouldn't do this anymore tomorrow.
I feel like it would be like low key a
lot of pressure. It's not. But at the same time,
I'm not like like once you lose, like you no
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longer have the mojo. Like it was like I watched
all my you know, I've been a captain for like
six or seven or eighty. I'm not even sure I'm
here for a long time, right, I've seen a lot
of guys with the cone tossed. I was like, yeah,
that's gonna be me. They're like, cay, I'm taking I
was like, yeah, ripping tails, you lost. I shouldn't do
this an like model specific wise, like do you actually
do this? It is? It is always fifty percent, no
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matter how many times you flip a coin, it is
always just like us, we're fifty percent. Yeah, No, I'm
not fun. I beg to defer because I only did
one toss and it was zero ps chance. That's how
we agree here, though, Cynthia. I always think a little
differently about someone if they're like a head's person, like
you just can't totally you can't trust them trying to
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get aheads catching straights. He's not even here. A little
basic to me, I like that one. Yeah, if you
drop a basic that's not where you want to because
it's really the butt. You're just going with the butt.
That's that's Cynthia and I. We're going with them. I'm
gonna leave that they're Okay. What do we think about
the first guy to score? Will his jersey number be
higher than eleven and a half? Absolutely? Okay. I mean
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there's something specific you're thinking about. I get that it's
probably gonna be in the eighties. If I'm not, you know,
there's there's there's two guys, but I'm thinking it's gonna
be a t el Okay. I looked at the t E.
I also looked at Miles Sanders, who's a twenty six.
I thought that was an interesting one as well. And
I also think like it's more fun and Patrick Mahomes
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could be a that's very fun. That one's over right.
When I said my home, my homes is over that number,
you got the starting running back for the Eagles over
that number. And I'm just really basic. I don't have
a model. There's so many numbers over eleven. There's not
that many numbers. There is there is. I mean, I
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see you guys sticking with the offense here, but let's
not get it twisted. The defense is gonna be the
one that defines his game. So I'm just going to
high because there's a lot of defenders out there. You
talk about Hasan Redding, what he impacted the Niners game.
You talk about how you got Chris Jones on the side.
If we're just thinking just over under eleven. I like
the defense, and the defense always goes and sets a tone. Okay,
all right, it's like intelligent analysis for this. Yeah, we
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got that on this show. How about going for two
on Sunday? Anybody gonna roll the dice on this one.
I don't think that's a roll of the dice. I'm saying, yeah,
I mean, Sirianni. I think one of the reasons the
Eagles are in this game is that they go for two,
that they're aggressive, that they're one of the best two
point teams of all time, like they are short yardage masters.
I think that's why they're here. I love that the
analytics person is the only one that said no. Why
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why are you saying no to fun and chaos? It's
not about fun and chaos. I think I'll go for
it on fourth down to you know, keep the extending
to drive but I don't know if they'll necessarily that
that might not be the strategy at the goal line.
Why are you saying just the analytics, I'm I'm started
with you. Thank you. Yeah, like I'm I'm a rock
gear way. But when are we saying two point being
like converted or at some point just successful? Yeah? You know,
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but when you're on the defense and let's say it's
not at the end of the game, you don't know
that they're going for two and then they go for
it instead of just kicking the point, aren't you like
a little annoyed? That's what the defensive players don't want,
right and for the kick or talk about I'm saying,
do you want to get back on the field and
possibly give up that too? I don't want to give
up the touchdown, So either way, I'm annoyed. I just
feel like it's gonna be so close. You're gonna have
to do weird stuff like this. You're gonna have to
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really think outside the box. Uh okay, super Bowl Classic people.
The color of the gatorade? What color is it going
to be? I think I said yellow yellows like Arizona
powdered gatorade. Get the powdered gatorade. What are you talk about?
Absolutely that you talk about the can, but don't can
talk about it. We can talk about the bottle, not
the can is cleaner anyway. You can talk about the bottle,
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the powder like the stuff that you've you've been drinking
since you were like seven at ymc A games. Please
spare me, Greg, You're you're going okay once again? Yellow
go yellow? Okay, once again. It's tough out here for
the color blind people. I thought yellow is green, isn't
it just like the same. They're together, they're listened together,
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listening that their groups together like the yellow green? Then
why are you going blue? Because since of the winning
gatorade colors have been blue. Oh and blue is the
most popular gatorade color by all reasons. See, this is
why we that's why, that's why we think. Um, okay, Cam,
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you're gonna like this. I'm literally gonna start tracking like
our colors during games like Cynthia, can we have yellow?
We all made Super Bowl predictions back in Week one,
which we're you know, we're just trying our best. Okay,
we're just going for it. Uh, Greg got his right.
He won't stop talking about it, but Patrick back in
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l A had one. I think that you will appreciate.
It's for all the tape. I'm gonna insert randomness into this,
into this question, because that's what the ball is, not round.
It doesn't necessarily always go where we think. Bengals almost
one this super ball. They did, and we nobody really
saw that coming. I will take the Buffalo Bills. It wow.
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And for the first year head coaching opportunity for Dennis
Allen with this team, of course he had another opportunity
didn't go so well. But they believe and I had
some questions when they made the trade of c J
G JU, but they made it for a reason. They
believe they can win. And we'll see random I kind
of love the randomness I live in. We did see
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guys that didn't work out. Cam I thought I was
gonna work out. I wanted it now it didn't. We
had high hopes, we had Hi hoops. Anyways, man, I
had the highest of hopes. But that's all right. Uh,
we'll be there in Vegas. B We're gonna turn it up.
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You know it's gonna be a new prediction Saints Verse
Denver Broncos about don't you can't say that nobody believed
in you because Patrick believed in you, and all that
starts with a must have seen the faith. That's all
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we needed. Were Okay, we're gonna be right back more,
Cam Jordan. We're gonna talk about Eagles players. We've got
our eyes on. We are live from Arizona. Super Bowl
is right around the corner, baby, Welcome back to Game
day View. We are live from Radio Row in Arizona
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for Super Bowl fifty seven. You can just feel the
energy in the room. We are so excited. Uh, folks,
it's time for pizza pizza. Pregame predictions presented by Little Seasons.
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing. Pizza, pizza to
the last. Nice. Thanks, guys. I think this whole entire
episode of Game Debut is just showcasing Patrick's acting skill.
It's amazing. You did great there too. Oh in cams too?
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Oh what's in there? Be careful it's Notting ready. Maybe
it's Notting ready. Um, okay, guys, let's talk about a
players who watch on this Eagles offense. Greg, I'll start
with you, Okay, I'm gonna go basic this time. Sometimes
the obvious answer it's right, it's Jalen Hurts. I think
the first quarters gonna tell us so much about this game,
especially in terms of Jalen Hurts running the ball. I
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think the Chiefs might want to force Jalen Hurts to
make the decision to hold the ball on those r
p o s. See if Hurts is really willing to
run the ball sixteen to eighteen times in this game.
And then there's the go ball. You know, he hit
it early in the Giants game, went about oh for
three on him against the forty nine. Is the way
that the Chiefs play press coverage, I think there will
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be opportunities to go down the field, especially on the
side of the field where it's Jalen Watson as the
cornerback and Hurts has gotta hit those deep throws that's
been so key to the Eagles all year. I'm a
little worried because we kind of keep saying the same thing,
because I really wanted to highlight the Jalen Hurts rushing situation.
I know, I'm a little scared now, just so you know,
corn like comes down on everything between I mean, what
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happens regular season, what about the other years? Not on
this desk, Anyways, so what I was saying, just kidding.
The running ability by Jalen Hurts really doesn't matter in
this one. Since his shoulder injury, we haven't seen him
cross the forty yard rushing mark before that was fifty
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four point three. That's going to be an interesting one
because those quarterback designed runs we will be prominent in
this one. This is for all the marvels. They're not
saving him for the next game. They haven't had to
bring out any of their best plays since, like before
the shoulder injury. Right, we haven't had to see them
really be competitive in any playoff game and they had
to buy and before that, you know, when Gardner Runci
was starting. Okay, that's interesting, but not so much, right,
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so we'll have to we'll have to see the rushing.
Do you see like a version of a Philly Special? Like,
do we see something crazy? Sirian it's got to make
his own name. No, right, you can't go back to
that's Sirianni version of the Philly Special. To the script? Okay, okay,
speaking of sticking of the script, who is your offensive
player to watch on the Eagles? Oh? Man, I mean
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we could go the obvious, but you guys are gonna
cover them. I'm gonna go to the uh not, so
I'm spoking about. Yeah, let's let's talk about you know,
the man who brings a lot of juice with this
big head and little body, Boston Scott, funny guy, but
on the football field, he brings a juice what I'm saying.
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Like we've talked about Miles Sandys, we talked about all
the all the guys that they have, but like you
bring up, that's crazy. I don't know how that happened.
I'm not do you love to see it? Okay? What
about the other side of the ball, the defensive side
of the ball? H Cam, you're the experts. I'm gonna
start with you. Who do you like here? Come on,
I've been talking about their D line all week because
this is crazy. There's seventy eight sacks deep over you know,
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regular season and playoffs. Seventy and regular season. But let's
talk about again an X factor that we're just not
talking about enough. The secondary. You got guys like big
Place Sleigh, but let's talk about Chauncey Grner. That's crazy again.
He had a lead tying six picks and still had
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one to play on my dog a little slime be
gonna go get it, little sli. I love it, and
you're an expert. You guys are the Eagles killers. You're
the one team that the Eagles don't bother. I mean,
you know what they were good to us. I mean
I came up with sacks like Ricky Jackson's record, like
Juste has been good to start the year off. You know,
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not good enough because I'm not in the playoffs. Do
I love me some? Brandon Graham U one of the
all time great Eagles. Everyone remembers the Philly Special. How
about remembering the play that ended the Super Bowl against
the Patriots. That was Brandon Graham getting the sack. And
they've kept him fresh throughout the season, only using about
twenty to thirty stuff. Now you unleash him. I went
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and watch the NFC Championship tape and he had Trent
Williams on skates pushing him back on a couple of
different snaps. And I don't know if there's anyone else
stronger in the league than Brandon Graham to be able
to push a man like Trent Williams that good back.
He's playing some excellent ball right now, and to me,
You're gonna use him more than ever, maybe more snaps,
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more production brand than Graham. I went same general idea
as well, but I am the model I went with
Cox on this one. I love interior pressure against Patrick
Mahomes in the angle because we've seen that Patrick Mahomes
has actually scored the most passing touchdowns on short passes,
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so ten or fewer are yard passes. Interior pressure comes
from a little closer that could be an area where
maybe he has that extra jump. We have seen Fletchercox
stop runners. We have seen Fletchercox get two quarterbacks and
be really destructive as well. So it's just the alignment
that I was curious about in this because you know
that the Eagles are going to bring pressure from all
over that defensive front, so I'm curious to see what
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the big man is gonna be doing. Cam. Thank you
so much for hanging out with Now I want pizza.
We hope you're not here next year when we do this.
You're gonna be too busy getting ready for getting ready
for the Super Bowl. Cynthia's model is projecting seven catches
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for eighties six yards and a touchdown for Travis this weekend,
which isn't a bad take, considering he scored in five
straight playoff games for the Chiefs. Yeah, there's a couple
of things you want to kind of piece together here,
like your pizza, pizza, pizza. But ultimately, when I'm looking
at this, look there's this is a great defense he's facing.
But if there's one area of vulnerability that I think
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Andy Reid will target, it's going to be that back
mid a third of the defense. It's called the Travis
Kelsey area. It's the safety so not named e J. Yes,
it's a it's a trademars exactly, trademark and those linebackers
in coverage theail out almost a fifty eight percent completion
percentage to this area. That is actually the one of
the metrics where they're like in the twenties, like in
the league in that So that's an area where Travis
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Kelsey will thrive and maybe is a point of vulnerability. Okay,
I love to see it. Can't wait, guys, that is
almost time to pick the game. Okay, just put up
the alarms. We're gonna get to it. We're having a
blast on media rows so many players plugging products around us,
which let's be very clear I'm available and I have experience.
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I can't wait for the Rihanna concert, I mean the
Super Bowl. I'm so sorry. Uh, guys, Sunday is gonna
be so fun. Cynthia and I are gonna be right there.
We are going to be inside Mistum on the field
for our pregame show. Sent are you si? Don't know? What?
Do you think they're gonna let us like ride the
grass in? You know they like roll the grass. I
want to ride the grass it Oh, I don't think so.
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We could ask real nicely though. Okay, it's time for
battle at the line presented by Caesar Sports Book. And
because you know, speaking of the line, it is Eagles
one and a half with the over underset at fifty
and a half, which is higher than it was last year. Guys,
but how about four straight Super Bowls hitting the under.
That's shocking. And looking at that Patriots Rams game, that
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was sixteen total points, that was that was We haven't
had an over different. We have not had an over
since Super Bowl fifty two, and this is super Bowl
fifty seven. Patrick, I'm gonna start with you. If that
information is giving you second thoughts, too bad. Okay, your
scores locked in. It's fine. Are you taking the over
the under? Here? Give me the over, Give me the over.
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I'm not afraid of the previous year's games that have
nothing to do with this one. These teams have scored
a hundred and twenty combined touchdowns this season. I fifty
and a half point. No, it's over for me, way over.
I'm going over as well. I feel it's the only
fear that I have. I feel like every time we
say a super Bowl or any game, oh, this is
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gonna be fireworks and high scoring, it's not. But I
have faith in this one specifically, we truly do have
the two best offenses that we could have possibly happened
upon for the Super Bowl. So I have high hopes. Greg,
what are you going? I am going over so far over.
I don't care about the historical Whenever they show those stats,
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it is like, oh, the a f C team hasn't
one after losing the coin flip four years. They're just
like trying to make you think something matters. That doesn't matter. Uh,
these defenses are good to turn into a New York
But sometimes it doesn't matter. Does Sometimes defensive score points
to like I could see that happening. Turnovers. Uh, the
last Eagles game I think will be more instructive of
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what this game was in the Super Bowl. Lots of points.
What do you think the model is gonna do? I'm
saying choosing to fun, the models choosing over as well.
We've got all across the board here. You gotta remember
those other numbers were higher. Fifty five is about five
points higher than fifty and a half, so just saying
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that number is just a little bit too low. And
they score fast. Patrick Mahomes can score fast, and I
think both teams. Scripted plays will yield points, which means
it's gonna start strong, which means we will finish strong.
I cannot wait, guys, I think it's time. Do you
feel like it's time? I think I kind of. I
kinda want to be over another do I maybe we
should just see like one more break. Yeah, when we're breaking,
the will pick the game sounds good coming up after
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the break. We are giving you our Super Bowl fifty
seven picks, m VP picks, all of it. So don't
go anywhere. Hey, welcome back to game days you. We're
hanging out on radio Row in Arizona, and like our
producers like to call us out with tweets when we're wrong.
I feel like to humiliate us some national television. I
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think it's it's like a little game for them. But
not this time. Okay, not this time. You actually can't
be mean about this, because that's how impressive it is
back in week one. Take a look at this time
for our predictions. Write these down, throw them back on
our face. How about we know you will anyways? What
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do you like? You know what I didn't see on
that board? A little Eagles over the Chief's action. Let's go. Uh,
you know what's even fatter than having like four or
three good offensive? I mean how about eight? Oh like
two or three good defensive? I mean how about eight?
A great number one receiver in DeVonta Smith. Let's add
another one in A J. Brown. I loved how deep
this team is. I love the Chiefs this year too,
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but I love the Eagles a little bar Wow. Oh,
September was such an innocent time before I spent the
whole season honking about my picks. Yeah. Really, honestly, it's
time for who's punching your ticket? Presented by ticket Master?
I mean I gotta ask Gregory sticking with your pick,
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I cannot. Of course, I'll stick with it. I've got
the Eagles winning this game thirty five to thirty one.
And one of the reasons I love this team is
because they don't care. They're not afraid of the moment.
It's Nick Sirianni in a big spot calling fourth down plays,
being aggressive when Andy Reid might be going for the
field goal. And I think in a big game like this,
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sometimes it's good that you haven't been there, that you
haven't been in this spot. I think he goes for
the two point conversions. I love this Eagles coaching team
and staff. And if I end up finishing off this prediction,
right you guys aren't gonna stop hearing about it until
we're back and we won, I will just show down
and I want to call you up. We've done this
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show for four years. I know you got to enjoy
the wins when you can, because the model is inevitable eventually.
I mean, I love that I have the exact opposite,
so this means we will actually have a winner, right like,
because it comes down to, yes, I the Eagles, when
the Eagles, When I have the Chiefs, I have twenty
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eight to six in this matchup a very closely contested game.
To me, it comes down to the ability of those
running backs for the Chiefs to just pick up the blitz.
Give Patrick Mahomes there's a little bit of extra time
for magic and the fact that the Eagles haven't been
tested in well over a month and not good point
doesn't seem like they're as well built to play coming
from behind as maybe like you never think Mahomes is
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out of it even if they know if they don't
score first or something like that, this is gonna be
this wnna be a great game. She makes a lot
of good team. Cynthia, Baby, I'm on team Cynthia. I
am going the Kansas City Chiefs over the Eagles. I've
got a big scoring game, thirty two to thirty. Listen,
Patrick Mahomes on like one foot is scary. Now he's
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gotten time to heal this team. It's just, you know,
it's like not betting against the Patriots way back when
that's how it feels with the Chiefs. Now In, Patrick Mahomes,
I'm just not doing it. Patrick, who do you like? Well, honestly,
we've and we've gotta get check research and see what
our girls versus Boys. Stats are for because we're doing
it again, and I feel you. One day, you know,
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hopefully I still have a job. When Patrick Mahomes is
going into the Hall of Fame, it's gonna be there.
He's gonna accomplish so much. But this Eagles team is
so good. The offense uh scoring more touchdowns than anybody
else throughout the season when they have all of their
starters on the field, and the defense getting all the
pressure that they do. I just can't not pick the
team that's been so good all season long. Honestly, both
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of these teams are so fun. It's like the first
Super Bowl that I'm like, I really, I don't care,
like I just want a fun game. Both of these
could be winners. It's gonna be great. Talk about Patrick
Mahomes looking to be a two time Super Bowl m
v P. He's got the best odds to win the award,
only two chiefs in the top seven between him and
Travis Kelsey. But who is it going to be? Time
for a tip of the cap presented by new Era.
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Who is your MD? And I'm looking down the bottom
of the board and I like the number for Miles Sanders.
He had two touchdowns in the last time against the
forty Honors. Eagles are gonna keep the ball in the ground,
maybe have Patrick Mahomes on the sideline as much as
they can. I like an opportunity for Miles Center, so
sneak in there and snag a Super Bowl and BT.
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I love that pick because I think the biggest mismatch
in this game is the running game of the Eagles
versus the run defense of the Chiefs. But I'm going
with Jalen Hurts to win the m v P. Getting
it done. Let's put on the hat here the Chiefs.
They said you couldn't run this offense in the NFL,
that it's a college offense. Oh, you can't risk your
quarterback getting hit RPO. He's gonna be holding onto the
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ball a lot of the times on those r p
O s on Sunday, and I think he has like
a ninety rushing yard game, an efficient passing game, and
really a cinderella story from a late second round pick
to this spot for Jalen Hurts. Like Jalen Hurts, but
I think it's curious that the lead for the m
v P is not in the same team as the
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one who's favored to win the game. Curious, very curious
with Patrick Mahomes, Like it's not that exciting, but typically
the quarterback wins a the word he already on one
m v P. Maybe that's like a bad omen Sometimes
that doesn't really always work out. But I think double
m v P for Patrick Mahomes. I love season. Pass
me that hat. You've got beautiful hair. I won't make
you do it and find it on I'm going Patrick
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Mahomes as well. Come on, we were all on boot
watch like a week ago. Okay, we were what we
were looking at every single angle of that ankle and
how he walked up and down the podium. Greg okay,
and then he came out and he did his thing.
I think he does it again two weeks to heal Okay,
He's a maniac. He the game win, the game winning drive,
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the game winning moment he ran the ball. It worried
the field. That his vision unlike any player I've ever seen.
It's kind of like staring down. The model is like
staring down Patrick Mahomes. But some years you can beat
the best in the game, just one game. You can
beat it, just like I'm going to beat you. You
are the best in the game. I also don't know
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what to do in the game. It really is um guys,
that's the universe show. What is the end of our
beautiful season? Thank you to all of our wonderful producers
and everyone back in that line. Thank you to Patrick,
a new addition to our show who has just been
absolutely wonderful to work with this year. Enjoying the Super
Bowl everybody Drew crushed with this year. To thank you, Drew.
Shout out to Trewe. We love you, See you guys.
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come to Game Debut. This is the fun. This is
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(00:27):
How are you feeling? Like any finale, We're gonna have
to leave like a very personal cliffhanger at the very end,
So stay tuned. I don't know what that means. Maybe
Greg's got something playing that we don't know about. Okay, guys,
let's get to the season standings. Alright, the regular season.
It simply does not matter. Okay, it all comes down
and there's some major there's some major things on the
(00:50):
line here. Cynthia and Greg aren't tied. I don't know
what you guys are picking later on in the show,
but this is I don't either Man versus model really
is the whole time? This is the model? Uh. Okay,
you know we're not gonna give you guys a trophy.
(01:11):
It doesn't exist, but um, I want you to fight
for it. Anyways, Kid's time to go to uh in
it to when it presented by into it, Turbo Tax,
We've got a lot of time to kill. Okay, so
you're gonna wait until the end of the show for
us to give out our Super Bowl picks. But I
want to start with offensive player to watch for Kansas City, Greg,
I'll start with you, Okay. I'm gonna start with Isaiah Pacheco.
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I love the way this kid has been running all year,
and I love the matchup in this game against this
Eagles run defense. It's what they've struggled with all year.
The Chiefs are built for this. I don't know if
Andy Reid is built for this. Eagles fans know that
he didn't always run the ball when they wanted him
to run the ball back when he was an Eagles coach.
But he's built an offensive line that's great at it.
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I think up the middle. Yes, they had to bring
in Dominican Sue and Lynn Vaal Joseph. Those guys were
on the street for a reason. I think Pacheco is
the future. He's the now. He's gonna break tackles and
especially on the interior runs. I think Andy Reid will
be a little more patient in this game and stick
with the running game, and Pacheco has gotta do great,
do you like? I mean, we're kind of thinking along
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the same lines here because Jerick McKinnon to me is
someone to watch. Why because when he doesn't have the
ball in his hands, it's almost more important than what
happens when the ball is in his hands. Meeting picking
up those blitz is handling pressure, giving Patrick Mahomes just
one half of a second longer to figure out where
to target the football. So for me, in this matchup,
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Jerick McKinnon's used and maybe even a little like Clyde Edwards,
a layer who we saw activated, that running back situation
is going to absolutely be key because we know that
the Eagles can bring the heat, so you have to
just give a little bit the titch longer for the
play to develop. You know, I really thought about this
question offensive player to watch? You know, maybe somebody would
would She was like an X factor, somebody that we're
not really used to hearing about. I say, nay, give
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me Travis Kelsey and he is the player to watch
because we won't be able to keep our eyes off
of him. This has just been such a fun storyline
all week long. I got to talk to Donna Kelsey
last night at the Honors. She's got both of her
boys there. I mean, imagine playing your brother in the
Super Bowl. If you know, you know the Borough head
stuff really got to this team. Imagine your brother just
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on the other side, on the other sideline, just egging
you on. There is so much on the line for
him today. He's been so much fun to watch this season.
He just continues to get better and more incredible. I
have him scoring the first touch, dude, love him kind
of going off and when said off the bat, I
thought you might go Rafael Kelsey. Oh, Rafael Kelsey. Yes,
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a lot of people have been talking about him this week.
We'll get to Rafael in a little bit, but I
want to talk about the other side of the ball,
the defensive side of the ball for the Chiefs. Greg,
who do you like? Okay, I'm gonna get weird here,
you know, Chris Joe. We're gonna get a lot of
attention in the secondary. Everyone one knows. How about Mike Danna.
It's all don't expect on Super Bowl Sunday. And I
love getting interior pressure because you're gonna double team Chris Jones.
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I think the Eagles offensive line really good at the
tackle position good and on the inside, but not as good.
And Danna has been getting after He's gonna have those
one on one matchups. I think he can beat Sayamalu
and I think Jalen Hurts can leave the pocket a
little early when he gets the interior pressure. We saw
that in the NFC Championship game. And Dana is one
of those guys kind of like an a Sean Robinson
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a year ago that makes a big impact in the
Super Bowl with that interior pressure. I love that, you know,
friends and backs of defenses worked together. And we've been
talking about the rookie Isaiah Pachecko on one side, but
Trent McDuffie was their first round pick. They put him
in press coverage against oh, you know, Jamar Chase, and
he handled Jamaar Chase. That press coverage is a big
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deal in this matchup. When you look at a. J.
Brown is good at well, he's pretty good against press.
So I'm looking to see can the rookie, the guy
they have all these expectations were their first round pick.
Can he step up when the lights of the bride is,
when everything's really on the line, And I think he can.
With a name like McDuffie. Who can't you absolutely can
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Greg You already kind of mentioned my guy. He is
going to continue to get a lot of attention, and
that is Chris Jones. Uh talking about somebody who really
took this personally. Last week the Borrowhead stuff, he went
above and beyond. That was so fun to watch him
use that chip on his shoulder. And this is what
he said about the Eagles going up against the best
offensive line. I wouldn't have it any other way. He
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is ready to feast this guy. You know, I can't
wait to see. There's all these posters around here and
Chris Jones is decidedly not on as many posters, so
maybe that will be the motivation. Like the Borrowhead love stridge,
you know what it is. He's always been an Arizon,
you know, as the second best guy, but now he's
the best. Um, guys, I gotta say, I really miss Patrick.
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I really miss Patrick. Let's bring him back in to
the show from l A. Patrick. Who is your X
factor on Sunday? Who are you going? Man? Well, I'm
looking down at the bottom of that board, and you
guys have convinced me throughout the entire season. I've expressed
some some disbelief in regards some motivation. But Kadarius Tony
is at the bottom of that and he I think
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he's gonna see that, and he's gonna say game debut,
you don't respect me, You don't think you haven't seen
the way that I can play and get yards after
the catch. And but honestly, though, this Eagles defensive line,
this Eagle's front, more pressure, is more sacks than anybody
in the NFL. They have fifteen more sacks than the
next closest team. Patrick Mahomes still kind of playing on
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one leg. He's gonna need to get the ball out early.
They're gonna need to get some yards after the catch
early and often, and I think Kadarius Tony is gonna
be the best way to do that. And we don't
know how much he's gonna play, So that makes them
even more of an X factor to me. It's time
for quick kicks. But we have a new guest, Patrick,
see you later incoming, Yarden. That seemed harsh, but I'm
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so excited to have you here, Mr Incredible. No, yeah,
just take it. I'm just a Sunshine State kid. Wait
Arizona's nine A Sunshine state, but it yeah, it is
what it is. Uh. Ca'm so happy to have you
on game debut. I saw you at NFL Honors. You
had an entire choir behind you. I don't know, but
I'm a hiring for my birthday, like hit all my
(07:21):
little residents. I'm like, yeah, So anyways, anyways, I'm like,
they're gonna kill it. I love it. So you're here
with NFL Rivals. Can you tell us about what that is.
NFL Rivals is a that's going to be launching in
the next few months. You know some I'm gonna say summer.
Maybe it's it's around that springtime. But it's this idea
that you can be your own coach, your own GM type.
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You gotta pick your own players, you rip you gotta
rip out your own guys, make your team nine verses
nine they go hit there, not even hit the gridiron.
Because this is real stuff. This is like nineties rules,
like people are able to like go around, like its
NFL Blitz two point oh. You know what I'm saying,
Like we're bringing it back to where football is fun.
You know, when you see a quarterback be decimated and
you gotta you gotta really have fun. With it, because
(08:02):
now you gotta put it like you know, today's game,
you put a pillow down. You were in a big
time story, you know, before you hit the quarterbacks these days,
I thought it was gonna be an app about Cynthia
and I because it's gotten pretty rough this season. I
don't know if you can pick that up. I don't know,
but you can find an NFL NFL dot rivals dot
(08:22):
com and we could work out some some issues after that.
You know, there's always troubleshooting. Okay, I love it all right, Well,
Cynthia got has got our glasses on, which means it's
time to really dive deep into the analytical the more
you know, stat specific questions here in business. Here, let's
talk about the coin toss folks show. Let's get into cam.
When you're out there calling it for the Saints. Are
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you a heads or tails guy? What do you? What
do you usually go with? You know what? I normally
don't go, No, no, I go. I go out there. Um,
I've done you know, I did a heads of the
tails never fails, and then like failed me and I
was like, hey, maybe I shouldn't do this anymore tomorrow.
I feel like it would be like low key a
lot of pressure. It's not. But at the same time,
I'm not like like once you lose, like you no
(09:05):
longer have the mojo. Like it was like I watched
all my you know, I've been a captain for like
six or seven or eighty. I'm not even sure I'm
here for a long time, right, I've seen a lot
of guys with the cone tossed. I was like, yeah,
that's gonna be me. They're like, cay, I'm taking I
was like, yeah, ripping tails, you lost. I shouldn't do
this an like model specific wise, like do you actually
do this? It is? It is always fifty percent, no
(09:26):
matter how many times you flip a coin, it is
always just like us, we're fifty percent. Yeah, No, I'm
not fun. I beg to defer because I only did
one toss and it was zero ps chance. That's how
we agree here, though, Cynthia. I always think a little
differently about someone if they're like a head's person, like
you just can't totally you can't trust them trying to
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get aheads catching straights. He's not even here. A little
basic to me, I like that one. Yeah, if you
drop a basic that's not where you want to because
it's really the butt. You're just going with the butt.
That's that's Cynthia and I. We're going with them. I'm
gonna leave that they're Okay. What do we think about
the first guy to score? Will his jersey number be
higher than eleven and a half? Absolutely? Okay. I mean
(10:13):
there's something specific you're thinking about. I get that it's
probably gonna be in the eighties. If I'm not, you know,
there's there's there's two guys, but I'm thinking it's gonna
be a t el Okay. I looked at the t E.
I also looked at Miles Sanders, who's a twenty six.
I thought that was an interesting one as well. And
I also think like it's more fun and Patrick Mahomes
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could be a that's very fun. That one's over right.
When I said my home, my homes is over that number,
you got the starting running back for the Eagles over
that number. And I'm just really basic. I don't have
a model. There's so many numbers over eleven. There's not
that many numbers. There is there is. I mean, I
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see you guys sticking with the offense here, but let's
not get it twisted. The defense is gonna be the
one that defines his game. So I'm just going to
high because there's a lot of defenders out there. You
talk about Hasan Redding, what he impacted the Niners game.
You talk about how you got Chris Jones on the side.
If we're just thinking just over under eleven. I like
the defense, and the defense always goes and sets a tone. Okay,
all right, it's like intelligent analysis for this. Yeah, we
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got that on this show. How about going for two
on Sunday? Anybody gonna roll the dice on this one.
I don't think that's a roll of the dice. I'm saying, yeah,
I mean, Sirianni. I think one of the reasons the
Eagles are in this game is that they go for two,
that they're aggressive, that they're one of the best two
point teams of all time, like they are short yardage masters.
I think that's why they're here. I love that the
analytics person is the only one that said no. Why
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why are you saying no to fun and chaos? It's
not about fun and chaos. I think I'll go for
it on fourth down to you know, keep the extending
to drive but I don't know if they'll necessarily that
that might not be the strategy at the goal line.
Why are you saying just the analytics, I'm I'm started
with you. Thank you. Yeah, like I'm I'm a rock
gear way. But when are we saying two point being
like converted or at some point just successful? Yeah? You know,
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but when you're on the defense and let's say it's
not at the end of the game, you don't know
that they're going for two and then they go for
it instead of just kicking the point, aren't you like
a little annoyed? That's what the defensive players don't want,
right and for the kick or talk about I'm saying,
do you want to get back on the field and
possibly give up that too? I don't want to give
up the touchdown, So either way, I'm annoyed. I just
feel like it's gonna be so close. You're gonna have
to do weird stuff like this. You're gonna have to
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really think outside the box. Uh okay, super Bowl Classic people.
The color of the gatorade? What color is it going
to be? I think I said yellow yellows like Arizona
powdered gatorade. Get the powdered gatorade. What are you talk about?
Absolutely that you talk about the can, but don't can
talk about it. We can talk about the bottle, not
the can is cleaner anyway. You can talk about the bottle,
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the powder like the stuff that you've you've been drinking
since you were like seven at ymc A games. Please
spare me, Greg, You're you're going okay once again? Yellow
go yellow? Okay, once again. It's tough out here for
the color blind people. I thought yellow is green, isn't
it just like the same. They're together, they're listened together,
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listening that their groups together like the yellow green? Then
why are you going blue? Because since of the winning
gatorade colors have been blue. Oh and blue is the
most popular gatorade color by all reasons. See, this is
why we that's why, that's why we think. Um, okay, Cam,
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you're gonna like this. I'm literally gonna start tracking like
our colors during games like Cynthia, can we have yellow?
We all made Super Bowl predictions back in Week one,
which we're you know, we're just trying our best. Okay,
we're just going for it. Uh, Greg got his right.
He won't stop talking about it, but Patrick back in
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l A had one. I think that you will appreciate.
It's for all the tape. I'm gonna insert randomness into this,
into this question, because that's what the ball is, not round.
It doesn't necessarily always go where we think. Bengals almost
one this super ball. They did, and we nobody really
saw that coming. I will take the Buffalo Bills. It wow.
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And for the first year head coaching opportunity for Dennis
Allen with this team, of course he had another opportunity
didn't go so well. But they believe and I had
some questions when they made the trade of c J
G JU, but they made it for a reason. They
believe they can win. And we'll see random I kind
of love the randomness I live in. We did see
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guys that didn't work out. Cam I thought I was
gonna work out. I wanted it now it didn't. We
had high hopes, we had Hi hoops. Anyways, man, I
had the highest of hopes. But that's all right. Uh,
we'll be there in Vegas. B We're gonna turn it up.
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You know it's gonna be a new prediction Saints Verse
Denver Broncos about don't you can't say that nobody believed
in you because Patrick believed in you, and all that
starts with a must have seen the faith. That's all
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we needed. Were Okay, we're gonna be right back more,
Cam Jordan. We're gonna talk about Eagles players. We've got
our eyes on. We are live from Arizona. Super Bowl
is right around the corner, baby, Welcome back to Game
day View. We are live from Radio Row in Arizona
(15:37):
for Super Bowl fifty seven. You can just feel the
energy in the room. We are so excited. Uh, folks,
it's time for pizza pizza. Pregame predictions presented by Little Seasons.
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing. Pizza, pizza to
the last. Nice. Thanks, guys. I think this whole entire
episode of Game Debut is just showcasing Patrick's acting skill.
It's amazing. You did great there too. Oh in cams too?
(16:20):
Oh what's in there? Be careful it's Notting ready. Maybe
it's Notting ready. Um, okay, guys, let's talk about a
players who watch on this Eagles offense. Greg, I'll start
with you, Okay, I'm gonna go basic this time. Sometimes
the obvious answer it's right, it's Jalen Hurts. I think
the first quarters gonna tell us so much about this game,
especially in terms of Jalen Hurts running the ball. I
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think the Chiefs might want to force Jalen Hurts to
make the decision to hold the ball on those r
p o s. See if Hurts is really willing to
run the ball sixteen to eighteen times in this game.
And then there's the go ball. You know, he hit
it early in the Giants game, went about oh for
three on him against the forty nine. Is the way
that the Chiefs play press coverage, I think there will
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be opportunities to go down the field, especially on the
side of the field where it's Jalen Watson as the
cornerback and Hurts has gotta hit those deep throws that's
been so key to the Eagles all year. I'm a
little worried because we kind of keep saying the same thing,
because I really wanted to highlight the Jalen Hurts rushing situation.
I know, I'm a little scared now, just so you know,
corn like comes down on everything between I mean, what
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happens regular season, what about the other years? Not on
this desk, Anyways, so what I was saying, just kidding.
The running ability by Jalen Hurts really doesn't matter in
this one. Since his shoulder injury, we haven't seen him
cross the forty yard rushing mark before that was fifty
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four point three. That's going to be an interesting one
because those quarterback designed runs we will be prominent in
this one. This is for all the marvels. They're not
saving him for the next game. They haven't had to
bring out any of their best plays since, like before
the shoulder injury. Right, we haven't had to see them
really be competitive in any playoff game and they had
to buy and before that, you know, when Gardner Runci
was starting. Okay, that's interesting, but not so much, right,
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so we'll have to we'll have to see the rushing.
Do you see like a version of a Philly Special? Like,
do we see something crazy? Sirian it's got to make
his own name. No, right, you can't go back to
that's Sirianni version of the Philly Special. To the script? Okay, okay,
speaking of sticking of the script, who is your offensive
player to watch on the Eagles? Oh? Man, I mean
(18:31):
we could go the obvious, but you guys are gonna
cover them. I'm gonna go to the uh not, so
I'm spoking about. Yeah, let's let's talk about you know,
the man who brings a lot of juice with this
big head and little body, Boston Scott, funny guy, but
on the football field, he brings a juice what I'm saying.
(18:52):
Like we've talked about Miles Sandys, we talked about all
the all the guys that they have, but like you
bring up, that's crazy. I don't know how that happened.
I'm not do you love to see it? Okay? What
about the other side of the ball, the defensive side
of the ball? H Cam, you're the experts. I'm gonna
start with you. Who do you like here? Come on,
I've been talking about their D line all week because
this is crazy. There's seventy eight sacks deep over you know,
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regular season and playoffs. Seventy and regular season. But let's
talk about again an X factor that we're just not
talking about enough. The secondary. You got guys like big
Place Sleigh, but let's talk about Chauncey Grner. That's crazy again.
He had a lead tying six picks and still had
(19:35):
one to play on my dog a little slime be
gonna go get it, little sli. I love it, and
you're an expert. You guys are the Eagles killers. You're
the one team that the Eagles don't bother. I mean,
you know what they were good to us. I mean
I came up with sacks like Ricky Jackson's record, like
Juste has been good to start the year off. You know,
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not good enough because I'm not in the playoffs. Do
I love me some? Brandon Graham U one of the
all time great Eagles. Everyone remembers the Philly Special. How
about remembering the play that ended the Super Bowl against
the Patriots. That was Brandon Graham getting the sack. And
they've kept him fresh throughout the season, only using about
twenty to thirty stuff. Now you unleash him. I went
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and watch the NFC Championship tape and he had Trent
Williams on skates pushing him back on a couple of
different snaps. And I don't know if there's anyone else
stronger in the league than Brandon Graham to be able
to push a man like Trent Williams that good back.
He's playing some excellent ball right now, and to me,
You're gonna use him more than ever, maybe more snaps,
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more production brand than Graham. I went same general idea
as well, but I am the model I went with
Cox on this one. I love interior pressure against Patrick
Mahomes in the angle because we've seen that Patrick Mahomes
has actually scored the most passing touchdowns on short passes,
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so ten or fewer are yard passes. Interior pressure comes
from a little closer that could be an area where
maybe he has that extra jump. We have seen Fletchercox
stop runners. We have seen Fletchercox get two quarterbacks and
be really destructive as well. So it's just the alignment
that I was curious about in this because you know
that the Eagles are going to bring pressure from all
over that defensive front, so I'm curious to see what
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the big man is gonna be doing. Cam. Thank you
so much for hanging out with Now I want pizza.
We hope you're not here next year when we do this.
You're gonna be too busy getting ready for getting ready
for the Super Bowl. Cynthia's model is projecting seven catches
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for eighties six yards and a touchdown for Travis this weekend,
which isn't a bad take, considering he scored in five
straight playoff games for the Chiefs. Yeah, there's a couple
of things you want to kind of piece together here,
like your pizza, pizza, pizza. But ultimately, when I'm looking
at this, look there's this is a great defense he's facing.
But if there's one area of vulnerability that I think
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Andy Reid will target, it's going to be that back
mid a third of the defense. It's called the Travis
Kelsey area. It's the safety so not named e J. Yes,
it's a it's a trademars exactly, trademark and those linebackers
in coverage theail out almost a fifty eight percent completion
percentage to this area. That is actually the one of
the metrics where they're like in the twenties, like in
the league in that So that's an area where Travis
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Kelsey will thrive and maybe is a point of vulnerability. Okay,
I love to see it. Can't wait, guys, that is
almost time to pick the game. Okay, just put up
the alarms. We're gonna get to it. We're having a
blast on media rows so many players plugging products around us,
which let's be very clear I'm available and I have experience.
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I can't wait for the Rihanna concert, I mean the
Super Bowl. I'm so sorry. Uh, guys, Sunday is gonna
be so fun. Cynthia and I are gonna be right there.
We are going to be inside Mistum on the field
for our pregame show. Sent are you si? Don't know? What?
Do you think they're gonna let us like ride the
grass in? You know they like roll the grass. I
want to ride the grass it Oh, I don't think so.
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We could ask real nicely though. Okay, it's time for
battle at the line presented by Caesar Sports Book. And
because you know, speaking of the line, it is Eagles
one and a half with the over underset at fifty
and a half, which is higher than it was last year. Guys,
but how about four straight Super Bowls hitting the under.
That's shocking. And looking at that Patriots Rams game, that
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was sixteen total points, that was that was We haven't
had an over different. We have not had an over
since Super Bowl fifty two, and this is super Bowl
fifty seven. Patrick, I'm gonna start with you. If that
information is giving you second thoughts, too bad. Okay, your
scores locked in. It's fine. Are you taking the over
the under? Here? Give me the over, Give me the over.
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I'm not afraid of the previous year's games that have
nothing to do with this one. These teams have scored
a hundred and twenty combined touchdowns this season. I fifty
and a half point. No, it's over for me, way over.
I'm going over as well. I feel it's the only
fear that I have. I feel like every time we
say a super Bowl or any game, oh, this is
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gonna be fireworks and high scoring, it's not. But I
have faith in this one specifically, we truly do have
the two best offenses that we could have possibly happened
upon for the Super Bowl. So I have high hopes. Greg,
what are you going? I am going over so far over.
I don't care about the historical Whenever they show those stats,
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it is like, oh, the a f C team hasn't
one after losing the coin flip four years. They're just
like trying to make you think something matters. That doesn't matter. Uh,
these defenses are good to turn into a New York
But sometimes it doesn't matter. Does Sometimes defensive score points
to like I could see that happening. Turnovers. Uh, the
last Eagles game I think will be more instructive of
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what this game was in the Super Bowl. Lots of points.
What do you think the model is gonna do? I'm
saying choosing to fun, the models choosing over as well.
We've got all across the board here. You gotta remember
those other numbers were higher. Fifty five is about five
points higher than fifty and a half, so just saying
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that number is just a little bit too low. And
they score fast. Patrick Mahomes can score fast, and I
think both teams. Scripted plays will yield points, which means
it's gonna start strong, which means we will finish strong.
I cannot wait, guys, I think it's time. Do you
feel like it's time? I think I kind of. I
kinda want to be over another do I maybe we
should just see like one more break. Yeah, when we're breaking,
the will pick the game sounds good coming up after
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the break. We are giving you our Super Bowl fifty
seven picks, m VP picks, all of it. So don't
go anywhere. Hey, welcome back to game days you. We're
hanging out on radio Row in Arizona, and like our
producers like to call us out with tweets when we're wrong.
I feel like to humiliate us some national television. I
(26:01):
think it's it's like a little game for them. But
not this time. Okay, not this time. You actually can't
be mean about this, because that's how impressive it is
back in week one. Take a look at this time
for our predictions. Write these down, throw them back on
our face. How about we know you will anyways? What
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do you like? You know what I didn't see on
that board? A little Eagles over the Chief's action. Let's go. Uh,
you know what's even fatter than having like four or
three good offensive? I mean how about eight? Oh like
two or three good defensive? I mean how about eight?
A great number one receiver in DeVonta Smith. Let's add
another one in A J. Brown. I loved how deep
this team is. I love the Chiefs this year too,
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but I love the Eagles a little bar Wow. Oh,
September was such an innocent time before I spent the
whole season honking about my picks. Yeah. Really, honestly, it's
time for who's punching your ticket? Presented by ticket Master?
I mean I gotta ask Gregory sticking with your pick,
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I cannot. Of course, I'll stick with it. I've got
the Eagles winning this game thirty five to thirty one.
And one of the reasons I love this team is
because they don't care. They're not afraid of the moment.
It's Nick Sirianni in a big spot calling fourth down plays,
being aggressive when Andy Reid might be going for the
field goal. And I think in a big game like this,
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sometimes it's good that you haven't been there, that you
haven't been in this spot. I think he goes for
the two point conversions. I love this Eagles coaching team
and staff. And if I end up finishing off this prediction,
right you guys aren't gonna stop hearing about it until
we're back and we won, I will just show down
and I want to call you up. We've done this
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show for four years. I know you got to enjoy
the wins when you can, because the model is inevitable eventually.
I mean, I love that I have the exact opposite,
so this means we will actually have a winner, right like,
because it comes down to, yes, I the Eagles, when
the Eagles, When I have the Chiefs, I have twenty
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eight to six in this matchup a very closely contested game.
To me, it comes down to the ability of those
running backs for the Chiefs to just pick up the blitz.
Give Patrick Mahomes there's a little bit of extra time
for magic and the fact that the Eagles haven't been
tested in well over a month and not good point
doesn't seem like they're as well built to play coming
from behind as maybe like you never think Mahomes is
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out of it even if they know if they don't
score first or something like that, this is gonna be
this wnna be a great game. She makes a lot
of good team. Cynthia, Baby, I'm on team Cynthia. I
am going the Kansas City Chiefs over the Eagles. I've
got a big scoring game, thirty two to thirty. Listen,
Patrick Mahomes on like one foot is scary. Now he's
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gotten time to heal this team. It's just, you know,
it's like not betting against the Patriots way back when
that's how it feels with the Chiefs. Now In, Patrick Mahomes,
I'm just not doing it. Patrick, who do you like? Well, honestly,
we've and we've gotta get check research and see what
our girls versus Boys. Stats are for because we're doing
it again, and I feel you. One day, you know,
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hopefully I still have a job. When Patrick Mahomes is
going into the Hall of Fame, it's gonna be there.
He's gonna accomplish so much. But this Eagles team is
so good. The offense uh scoring more touchdowns than anybody
else throughout the season when they have all of their
starters on the field, and the defense getting all the
pressure that they do. I just can't not pick the
team that's been so good all season long. Honestly, both
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of these teams are so fun. It's like the first
Super Bowl that I'm like, I really, I don't care,
like I just want a fun game. Both of these
could be winners. It's gonna be great. Talk about Patrick
Mahomes looking to be a two time Super Bowl m
v P. He's got the best odds to win the award,
only two chiefs in the top seven between him and
Travis Kelsey. But who is it going to be? Time
for a tip of the cap presented by new Era.
(30:01):
Who is your MD? And I'm looking down the bottom
of the board and I like the number for Miles Sanders.
He had two touchdowns in the last time against the
forty Honors. Eagles are gonna keep the ball in the ground,
maybe have Patrick Mahomes on the sideline as much as
they can. I like an opportunity for Miles Center, so
sneak in there and snag a Super Bowl and BT.
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I love that pick because I think the biggest mismatch
in this game is the running game of the Eagles
versus the run defense of the Chiefs. But I'm going
with Jalen Hurts to win the m v P. Getting
it done. Let's put on the hat here the Chiefs.
They said you couldn't run this offense in the NFL,
that it's a college offense. Oh, you can't risk your
quarterback getting hit RPO. He's gonna be holding onto the
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ball a lot of the times on those r p
O s on Sunday, and I think he has like
a ninety rushing yard game, an efficient passing game, and
really a cinderella story from a late second round pick
to this spot for Jalen Hurts. Like Jalen Hurts, but
I think it's curious that the lead for the m
v P is not in the same team as the
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one who's favored to win the game. Curious, very curious
with Patrick Mahomes, Like it's not that exciting, but typically
the quarterback wins a the word he already on one
m v P. Maybe that's like a bad omen Sometimes
that doesn't really always work out. But I think double
m v P for Patrick Mahomes. I love season. Pass
me that hat. You've got beautiful hair. I won't make
you do it and find it on I'm going Patrick
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Mahomes as well. Come on, we were all on boot
watch like a week ago. Okay, we were what we
were looking at every single angle of that ankle and
how he walked up and down the podium. Greg okay,
and then he came out and he did his thing.
I think he does it again two weeks to heal Okay,
He's a maniac. He the game win, the game winning drive,
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the game winning moment he ran the ball. It worried
the field. That his vision unlike any player I've ever seen.
It's kind of like staring down. The model is like
staring down Patrick Mahomes. But some years you can beat
the best in the game, just one game. You can
beat it, just like I'm going to beat you. You
are the best in the game. I also don't know
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what to do in the game. It really is um guys,
that's the universe show. What is the end of our
beautiful season? Thank you to all of our wonderful producers
and everyone back in that line. Thank you to Patrick,
a new addition to our show who has just been
absolutely wonderful to work with this year. Enjoying the Super
Bowl everybody Drew crushed with this year. To thank you, Drew.
Shout out to Trewe. We love you, See you guys.
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