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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart
podcasts Great Tammy with us here in NHL Unscripted. Man,
We've got a lot of action going on right now.
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The East right now feels like the leaves the leaf's
going to choke again. The coaching carousel continues. Plus Alex
Mott from Saturday Night Live in an interview which is
just too bizarre to even be described. He was playing
golf during it, kind of all over the place, but
I think you'll enjoy at least at some level. And
cine filing sixty, We're good theater this week. Glenn Garry,
Glenn Ross, one of my favorite players, got to watch
it on Broadway for the third time.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Love that play.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
David Mannontt bringing the heat with Bob Oden Kirk as
Shelley the Machine, Levine Kiaran Kulkan as Ricky Roma, and
Bill Burr as Moss. When we begin, Jay, we'll get
to hockey in just a second. But I gotta tell you,
the entire sports world is still talking about Shador Sanders
and I could not think of a hockey comp to this.
I can't think of a guy who has at one
point was expected to be a top I picked that
it was late first round of Corny Melt Kuiper and
then falling to the fifth round, but it was it
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was comical. And again you and I were watching hockey playoffs,
doing baseball, NBA plus whatever. But I'm like, Okay, NFL draft,
I know the world's talking about this, but the guy
got picked the fifth round by the Browns. I'm just curious,
as a guy who has no shortage of opinions, your
reaction to shador Standers, who's expected to be, you know,
seventy one completion percentage good quarterback, but nobody wants to
deal with his dad. Nobody wants d on their training kid.
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If he were saything like that, shador Standers falling the
fifth round, one hundred and three guys drafted ahead of.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Them, Yeah, it's I think they sent a statement. No,
that seems like a statement from the owners to any
kid thinking they're bigger in their bretches than the NFL.
I mean, everything you hear out of there was like
his interviews were just so bad and he was just
very arrogant. And again you couple that with like the
Dion Sanders of it out Now, listen, do I think
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this kid's like NFL ready and a quarterback that's going
to really produce right off the get go.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You know, he's in that program, in that division. He's
in one of the worst divisions in college football. Correct,
So I'm kind of like, how do is he gonna
do in the NFL. I think he might actually end
up being in a good situation in Cleveland with that
quarterback room of of not great quarterbacks, but like there's.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
A lot of but they got like five quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He's gonna get enough reps action prove it can be good.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, Well, there's no way they can go in to
training camp with five quarterbacks. So it's gonna be they're
gonna shave it down. There's gonna be a couple of trades.
So yeah, I think the message was sent to any
college player that thinks they're bigger than the game and
they're getting that nil money, that the NFL is a
different world.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Perhaps people are slightly subdued. Jason de Murs.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
He has a Wi Fi issue right now in Arizona,
so he's not at full volume.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is like about an eighty five percent Jason de Murs.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The content is excellent I'm just saying the delivery is
not quite as outspoken, like you're not gonna give me
a headfield right now. I don't even asked that you're
gonna You're gonna alienate people in that library and right
now the lobby.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I could give a little.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
That's an octave lower for the musical fans out there,
Dalica acoustic level.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
All Right, Hockey, we go East is the least the
hell's going on. Every Western conference series will go at
least six games. Been great, but three of the fourth
series out East Finals finished with a whimper in five games. Carolina, Florida,
and Washington advanced New Jersey. Tampa and Montreal are out.
Carolina will play Washington in round two. Tampa Bay is
out in the first round for the third straight year.
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They have not won a playoff series since appearing in
three straight Stanley Cup finals in twenty twenty. In twenty
twenty two, I think you and I agree. You actually again,
no Sho demurs the return. You said the Habs will
get well at the Bell Center.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I said I couldn't care less about Devil's games. I
think you called the dellas you thought Marster might pull
off a rabbit of this app whatever mostop in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I didn't expect just the Walking Dead. But after
game one, you know, losing Hughes and Dylan in the
first game, it's like, right, and they're dead.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But the surprise here is the Battle of Florida. Like
I had Florida winning. How they winning at six point
five games?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What the hell happened?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
The Lightning?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
A lot of everyone's picking the Lightning. You're not alone
in that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I mean, I had him in seven. I think it's
safe to say, and you know, I'm one of the
biggest I took lightning in seven for one reason and
one reason only. It was Andrey Vasilevski. And I just
don't know if the magic's there anymore for him. Honestly,
I just don't think he has that. He's still a
good goalie. I just don't think he's that goalie that
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we remember from those, you know, those cup runs that
they had.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I just think he's lost a step. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Lost the compete, the battle, but it just was a
it wasn't a great effort I think by him, by
the team as well. I think they got manhandled by
Florida a little bit, and you know, other than Brandon
Hagel with that hit on Barkoff, I mean, they wasn't
much response that they really did push in a sense
of like they fought a lot after the whistle and
they were kind of they were engaged, but they just
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had no answer for Florida. And this is the year
I thought, I thought, Tampa, I have Tampa going to
the finals losing to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But I mean two of.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
My teams that I had going I'm worried about, you know,
Colorado as well, but Tampa just in five, like even
this game tonight, and you know, it just seemed like
it just seems the last couple of years, Florida's just
got their number and they can't get out of their
own way as well. So you know, I'm more interested
now to see what happens with Tampa moving forward. They
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got some big decisions to make, especially at the coaching position,
but I mean, overall, they got to either retool this
thing or because what they have this year did not
work at all, even though in the season it looked
like everything was pointing towards them, you know, going on
a run. But this is the NHL It's like there's
levels to this, and Florida just seems to be that
that top of the top right now. And you just
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can't now that they're all healthy, you cannot. Man, even
missing ek Platt, I didn't think they'd be this dominant.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You have my attention now because you said what could
happen on the coaching side. John Cooper wildly regard as
one of the best coaches in the game. We're gonna
get to the whole coaches carousel, the fact that Mike
Sullivan's out. Coop's been there forever. He and Sullivan have
been institutions in Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh, respectively. You think
John Cooper may not be there? Are you referring to
other aspects of the coaching staff?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Ah, Well, you know they they gave him that one
year option this year and I don't know if they
exercise it. It's one of those things, is it is
it just time? And and nothing against John Cooper. And
also you got to look at John Cooper and you're
here in some rumors and some murmurs of John Cooper's
tight in Utah with Ryan Smith, and there could be
something there and and you know he's uh there's there's
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a world in which John Cooper has done everything he
can do in the coaching space, and maybe he wants
might want to do something a little bit more, maybe
go up a level, maybe go to hockey ops or
or GMing. And you know, you can't ask much more
from John Cooper's in terms of a coach. He's done
it all in this league. And you know, he's won,
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he's he's been part of you know, he's grown a
lot of guys. He's won on the world stage, on
the sort, in the international stage, and you know, this
is this might be one of those moments where he's
been kind of deciding on what he wants to do,
and this it might just be the kick in the
ass that he needs to kind of take it to
the next level, maybe just depart amicably between Tampa and
and and kind of usher in a new era. So
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but I don't know who would come in for him.
There's a lot of coaches out there right now, but
I think John Cooper could be a guy that just
says by and and nothing, no animasy, I don't think
behind it. But there's just a lot of ties with
him in Utah and it's it's an interesting, interesting development
going on right now, So I don't know what's going
to happen. But but yeah, that's kind of me jumping
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on the rumor mill. I mean, I could see him
go anywhere as a coach. I think any team would
take him right now if he was available. But you know,
I'm looking at Boston as well. But if he does
become available and decides to go into the GMing hockey
apps role, I think he'll be welcome with open arms
anywhere he wants to go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You can imagine, let me be a challenge, as you say,
every of the coach, he wants to go to the
next level. But you are speaking at conspiratorial whisper just
in case John Cooper is listening to these thoughts that
you're giving because the longest coach, the longest tender coach
of league Cooper, Jeff Halperm been there a while as well.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
All right, so the lightning is disappointing, but this is
a new level here. The LA Kings.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They every want to use this word if you're a
sports fan when you hear choking, Wait, wait are you
Kidding'm like, no, no, God, the Kings blow the goalie
interference challenging Game three, they lose. They then blow a
two goal Yeah, they then blow a two goal third
PERI leading Game four and Twysol wins it in overtime.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And Tuesday at Crypti, I go, they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Jay, They're gonna back home, all right, we all know, Hey,
greatest home record ever at home. It's a different story
at Crypto. They lose their biggest game of the season
with a pop gun poultry, anemic offensive effort. One goal
against beleaguered Edmonton Other's goalies three to one is your final.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I see to you.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Before the fourth straight year they lose the Oilers, you
might as well just pack up shop. And I like
Jammeller as a good coach, but I'm telling you, man,
I'm not putting on Jim. I'm just saying collectively, look, Grobtek, whomever,
this is an absolute catastrophe. If they lose this game
in six Andrea Coupetar turns thirty eight in August, Drew
Dowey turns thirty six in December. A lot of concerns
right now for Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I think this would be if they lose this.
This is this is a blow up of epic proportions.
I don't know if the coach, you know, the coaching
staff is partly to blame, and and I just don't understand. Listen,
the mental side of hockey is such a crazy thing
when you really ask guys and you go, hey, how
does a team like just want twelve straight against another
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opponent or how do they just kind of you they
can't seem to get over that hump, and it's just
such a mental block that they have and they go
up to nothing. They look like world beaters. Game three,
they're looking like world beaters, and then all of a sudden,
they just start sitting back. They sit back, and they're
sitting in that goddamn one three one structure at the
blue an. There was times they had five guys in
the defensive zone just waiting for Connor McDavid to come
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on his horse and come into the and coming to
the offensive zone. I'm like, I don't care who you're playing,
You're never gonna win games like that because it's the
NHL and there's guys that have a lot of skill,
and if you're just sitting there and waiting with five
guys like it's you're giving them offensive zone practice and
ozone time. I mean, I just don't. They were dominating Edmonton,
like dominating them, they were getting scoring chances, they were
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getting offensive's own time, they're bullying him, and then all
of a sudden it comes third period and it's like, oh,
let's just sit back and try to hide this lead
and pray that we get a w because we've lost
to this team three straight years. And I'm like, that's
not how you win. You got to get pissed off,
have a chip on your shoulder, and then you cap
it all off. Obviously, we can talk about that coaching challenge,
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which has been talked about a nauseum by every other
you know, podcast and pundit that it's just one of
the worst I've seen, and I'm not going to beat
it up more than that. It was just he knows,
Jimy Millar knows what he did, and I think the
whole league knows what he did. But that game six
performance and not be ready to play and just twenty
two shots, like you have four shots in the first period,
you get absolutely worked over to your point, like you said,
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against a beleaguered goalie tandem. You know, listen, Calvin Pickard's
coming and he's been good. He's been really solid for them,
and they've just kind of slowly pushed them out and
broken their will. And I think that Game four was
kind of the cap er for them of breaking their will.
And now I don't know if there's any answer for
them going to fucking were Rogers Arena for Game six.
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That place is going to be so loud and mc
connor's gonna be going one hundred miles an hour. And
I tell you what the the Edmonton Oilers, you know,
I tweeted about it the other day. Their resiliency since
Game four of the Stanley Cup Finals last year is
something to be seen many. You can never count them
out of a series. They battle to the end. Connor
and Leon just will these guys, and that's the difference.
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And I mean, I think if LA loses this, which
I'm still hoping out, holding out hope that my pick
holds that they win in seven, but this is a
blow up. You got to get rid of everybody. You
keep the young guys. You keep Adrian Kempey, you keep
Brant Clark, but Drew Dowdy and Onse Copazar probably have
to either get moved or you get to find a
way to bring in some new blood because this is
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just not working. And you know, I thought it would
and I thought they had all the makings of it.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
We all took them. We all look like idiots. Everybody
took La.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think, I don't know how many people took the Oilers,
but many. And you know, the Oilers proven that they
are just a tough team mentally, and I mean big
credit and big hats off to my X factor that
I said was probably gonna impact this series was Evander Kaine.
He's gotten better and better every single game and that's
been a big difference maker for this team.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We'll find out what happens game six and everything.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Like I said, it's gonna be rocking as LA tries
to stave off elimination. It's not quite in the level
of the Kings because the Leaves are still in charge.
They're up three too against Yatta Centators, but they're now
one for thirteen and close out games in the Matthews
and Martyr era. That is absolute catnip for all Leaf
haters like you. You are up and you can't win
those stars like it is, and you're right if you
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talk about a nervous fan base. I mean, Leaf is
that nobody can go from arrogance to like just quiet
desperation quite like the Leaves.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They're going, this is our year. What you when the
Cup first times to sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And it's like, oh my god, we're gonna lose the sense,
We're gonna blow a three oh lead. I give Otto
a full credit, ja, I mean they've played a great game,
was great stout defense exactly getting better. They're improving, aust
the series has gone on. Toronto's going the other way.
Game six in Ottawa Thursday night. Again, we don't necessarily
talking about home micecause Autwo to me, Leaf fans are there.
But I'm telling you, buddy, I want to see a
game seven of the worst way possible.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I had sense and seven let's go.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, they don't realize.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I don't think the fan base realizes that they influenced this.
Like you could feel the difference in game uh in
Game five there in the building, you could feel it
how quiet it was and how tense it was. They
scored that first goal. They just sucked the energy out
of the building. The fans themselves, and I've been hard
on the lower bowl of Toronto, but you can hear
it like there was a pin drop that whole game,
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and they're just kind of they have so many scars
from all the past years of losing it, so you
can just see it. They're already like, oh no, we're
gonna lose in seven, We're gonna get swept, instead of
being confident that they were the better team for most
parts of the series. But that's the issue I think
people and Toronto fans miss, is that it's been a
tight series. This series could easily be flipped the other
way with those overtimes. Like both those games, Ottawa was
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out playing in Toronto for a lot of the five
on five and the issue was and what did we
say that we before? The penalty kill was the issue
for Ottawa. They've now fixed it somewhat. I just think,
you know, Toronto's gotten really stagnant and too cute with it.
But they're now zero for seven, and what happens they
lose that last two games, So there's your issue for
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Toronto's they got to fix their power play and Ottawa,
I mean just keep going. They're kind of just playing
that underdog role. They don't care. They have nothing to
play for. There's no tomorrow, and you could see Toronto.
You could see the stress coming in last game. Marn
is starting to beg for calls a little bit awesome,
Matthew's breaking his stick on the bench, and you can
start to see those old wounds coming back up again
a lot like the Kings. So you know, I listen,
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I had Autawa on seven. I hope Toronto wins. I
just feel like Toronto, that the fan base just needs
it deserves as much as we.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
All like kind of you know, lining just lining up
at the doors that we dold just so they joked again.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, I feel like at one point, it's like, fuck,
come on, give us one, just please, for the love
of God, just win this one. Close it out at
Canadian Tire Center. But you do not want to come
back to to Toronto and Scotiabank Arena?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Is it Scotia Banks? Still I.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
See it.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'm pretty good. I still remember myself. You can't. You
do not want to come back for seven? Game seven? Dude?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What's great about HL script? Does everyone has their moment
to shine?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
J D says, cal mccarr's me the greatest defensive all time.
I've got Cinophile right, just get to run rampant. I
want Tal right now agains viral moment.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Tal.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I want you to just take a sledgehammer to Austin Matthews,
who has two goals in his last ten playoff games.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Go ahead, pin Chewski, talk to me.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
I mean, I don't know what to say at this point.
And I know there's been so much of a focus
on Mitch Marner the last few seasons in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Mitch Marner is the whipping boy every single time. Can
we give some of the can we can we bash
Matthews this time?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Come on, I won't. I love the kids, so I won't.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Get a rotation like for years it was Neilander, Right,
Neilander was the guy who was the whipping boy for years,
and then there were some playoffs where he just absolutely
balled out and was unstoppable and they didn't get past
the first round, but he.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Was probably their best offensive player.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And then it was Martyr and I got Matthews is
not scoring goals like that's what he's supposed to be doing.
I mean, he's established himself at this point as an
elite two way center. Yes, and he should be considered
for the Selky and all that, but that's not what
he's there for. He's there to he's there to drive offense.
And he has two goals in his last over the
last two playoffs.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Runs over the last two seasons in.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
The playoffs, and I feel like no one's talked about it,
Like I feel like it has not the hot potato
has not landed in his lap yet.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Are not talking about why is Austin Matthews not scoring
goals in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
And I don't understand why.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I guess, I mean he's maybe he's he's it's the
Bieber effect. He's a friends with Bieber and Vegetable. I
don't know what's going on, but I feel like I'm
not saying we need I'm just surprised that more people
are not having that conversation about Austin Matthews, who is
now the conneptain of this team.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
By the way, I might.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Add, there we go never getting Justin Bieber on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Now, got to be a believer.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
My kind of devil's advocate is last year there was
those injury kind of woes with Lelander and Matthews, and
Matthews has had something going on for like a year
or two. And but yeah, I mean, listen, I think
it it begins and ends with him when he kind
of goes and I think one of their best forwards
this series has been Matthew and Ies. He's been a
bull in a china shop. But Matthews just got to
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get back to shooting. He has been a little reluctant
to shoot, which makes me believe there's something going on,
maybe because I haven't seen him unload that one time
or like he's known for and just kind of piss
pump one. So I'm a little interested to see how
they come out in a Canadian entire center. But I'd
say what the momentum is firmly in the hands of
Ottawa senators. So and listen, we didn't mention. You know,
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Anthony Stolars the last two games hasn't been his best
elf and they kind of got to him a little bit.
So I'm interested to see how they handle it on
the road here. But this is dragging them back to
Ottawa's Brady said, dragging them back to Ottawa.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Battle of Florida was done, Battle of Ontario might still
be an epic if Auto can win game six. All right,
we'll get to Alex Moffatt in just a second. With
the coaching carousel, major coaching vacancies like JD mentioned at
the top, the Rangers, the Ducks cracking. On Monday, the
Penguins announced their head coach, Mike Sullivan. Sullivan's travels not
back after ten seasons and two Stanley Cups. The team
hasn't won a playoff series since twenty eighteen. They just
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missed the playoffs for a third straight season, and the
very next day, your boy Rick Tockett will not be
back for two and a half seasons.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
With the Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Looking at the coaching landscape, Boston, Philly and Chicago could
also make changes behind the bench this summer. Who goes where?
Who's the next coach? To get the acts before you
go anywhere? Sullivan's the Rangers talk to me?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, I'd like to see you know, I think Sully
going there or Boston potentially, but I think the Rangers
is a good fit for him. I think you know
that that Rangers court needs somebody that's gonna hold them accountable.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know. I kind of was talking.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
With Brian Boyle and Mic Up a little bit and
being like, what do you guys kind of see and
because you know, they know better than me on that side.
And I'm like, do you think a young coach for
these guys, And you know, Mike Rep's like, no, they
need a guy, an old guy that's going to come
in and kind of crack the whip a little bit.
I'm not saying John Tortorella, but somebody that'll come in
and crack the whip and hold these guys accountable and
pull some ice time if guys aren't willing to battle
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so and I think you know Sully can do that.
I'm interested to see like the Chicago's and the teams
that are kind of on the fence with their coaches
and have some young coaches a Utah, because there's a
lot of big names out there, and I could see
some teams pulling the trigger quicker rather than later because
you don't want to lose. You know, you still got
Joe Quenville out there, and you gotta there's a lot
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of good coaches out there. Jay Woodcroft's another one that's
just been sitting waiting. You got about eight or nine
coaches that have had winning records in the NHL that
are available for hire and I'm like, you're gonna maybe
see a couple of them teaming up, and you might
see a couple that you know, end up not having
a job next year because there's just that many options.
So it's it's a it's a dangerous time to be
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a coach in the NHL right now because you are
not giving a lot of bullets and a lot of
life and you're giving no rope. And yeah, it's it's
it's interesting to see. I don't know why there's been
that shift in the landscape. I don't know if it's
on the players, if players are just too fragile now,
or is it on you know, ownership pressure from the
media to win now and and you know, you could
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also just be like Detroit where they don't do anything,
and you know, Steve Eiserman's still there and he's taking
trapnel from his captain and then responding in the media
in kind I don't know, did you hear that?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I wanted to ask you how how long does the
iSER plan go?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Did you hear minisil Ran today refuse to answer questions
and he said, well, my top guys need to play better.
He's like they're begging you to pick somebody up, and
you don't have enough top players.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
It's the problem. You're missing guys.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You brought in an aging Patrick Kane and an aging
Vladimir Tarasenko, and you thought that would show up the scoring.
And even though Patty Kane was still himself down the stretch,
they needed some firepower, They needed a little bit of grit.
They didn't get that. They you know, they on the
back end. I thought they're very light on the back
end as well. And then it was the biggest thing
they needed to dress was fucking goaltending. And they don't
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go out and get it go they go get Peter Morazak.
And I love Peter Mrazak, but he's not a number
one goalie and they don't have a number one there,
so I think him dodging the questions was like a
little bit like seemed a little arrogant to me. As
much as I love him as a player and I've
liked what he's done, but it was a little arrogant
to kind of be like put it back on the players,
Like I understand Dylan Larkin's probably out of line. You
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don't want to air your dirty laundry, but they must
seem like there's nowhere else to look, and and and
there must be a big kind of disconnect between management
and the players, which at the end of the day,
you're a player, you're getting paid, you have to play.
I don't think the players, to a man inside the
locker room was was held accountable enough. But you also
got to thank Steve Iers mean, you got to give him,
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give him a shot, reward him for their good play.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And they didn't do any such things.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So yeah, so it's an interesting little it's a turn
into a fucking soap opera.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
In the NHL two last thoughts. Salivon was an assistant
with the Rangers under Jean turn Ross. That'd be a
homecoming on Broadway. And as for Eiserman, he said, I've
address Dylan's comments directly with Dylan. I will not elaborate.
If Dylan wants to share what I had to stay
with him, he's.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
More than welcome. You can read the lines, not that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Do I have time for a question for you or
after this?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Please?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
My question for you too is did you see Jimmy
Rutherford today? I didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, when when they Jim Rutherford in his comments, so
when they let go of Rick talking imparted ways. He
said he tried to call Quinn Hughes and he said
Quinn Hughes didn't pick up his call. And he hopes
he was golfing. But yeah, Quinn Hughes posts a game
posted a picture from the Knicks game.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I just think when Hughes is like me, he wants
to see jail and bruns and breaking. Okay, that's been
an unbelievable scirit.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
With his little high ankle sprain the last time. Not good,
no point out. What are they thinking not calling a
timeout or.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Drawing a foul?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
This is not basketball, this is hockey. And up next
to Saturday Night Live. Alex moffittt from SNL an interview
unlike you've ever heard before.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's next here an NHL inscripted after this, Our.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Next guest was a cast member on Saturday Night Live
for six seasons.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
His film and television credits.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Include everything from Bad Monkey to Kind Of Pregnant, to
Billions to the Bayor to eighty for Brady to Clifford
the Big Red Dog, a number of major projects coming soon,
and most importantly, he's joining us from the golf course.
He's been caught up to this turn that cart off
and locking with us, Alex moffatt, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Alex is great to see it. Thanks so much for
doing this, man.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
My pleasure. The cart's off for now bye. You know
when I have to go to my next shot, We'll
see what.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Happens, gas powered. I just go for it.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
I only play all the world's great courses. Uh this
time deep in the heart of South Bokland.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yes Andrews, Andrews.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, yeah, the st Andrews of Southern Southern Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I want to start with the hockey content with your
first Alex, your pay and ann l sketch in which
chance of rapper was Laslhome's the NHL. Who doesn't know
anything about hockey, tell me all about how that sketch
came together.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's an all time classic.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
It is a classic.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Well, I didn't write it, and I sort of just
read off the cue cards.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
But I'm happy to tell you whatever. Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Mikey Day and Streeter Sidell, his writing partner, wrote that gem,
that beauty, that classic, and uh yeah, I I'm method.
So I went to hockey camp and then became a
professional for a solid two days in preparation for that
shadowed Jason Demers, so I get just so I could
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see how a real pro lives and then kind of
put me in the right headspace and I was able
to create one of television's all time great characters.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, listen the fact that you went method. I'm just
curious to Brady Sae ever approach you. Any Rangers players
ever talked to you about it?
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Not a one. I've never heard word one from any
NHL player ever regarding that or anything else.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Maybe it just didn't hit in that community. Then that's fine.
Doesn't it hit for me?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It hit for the retired community, which was which I
had a lot of time on my hands, asking.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Well, that's great, Yeah, that was my that's who I
wanted to target. Yeah, the producers told me to target
it Jason and all his retired buds, and I'm glad
that we brought it home.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Alex. You know I met you quick backstory.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I met him he was doing an off Broadway show
with with my wife Jillian, and he was just fantastic
in it.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
But you know, we talked a little bit throughout the show.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
But I you know, getting back to Saturday Night Live,
like how you know, I always equate that a little
bit to a sports team, just how you guys, you know,
play off each other and you're working together, you're working
in unison. But also you know, certain people shine, like
like you said, in certain moments, like you didn't write
a certain sketch, but you're gonna help and support. So
how is it with that and where do you kind
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of feel you fell within that team framework?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Very yeah, absolutely well growing up playing team sports, I
do feel like I I mean I was a point
guard and such, and like you know, my high school
where I graduated with forty kids, so I'm not really
dampen my suspenders too much, but I like to get
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an assist. I like to shoot from time to time,
just to use some sports metaphors, and so yeah, you gotta.
I always like to think of comedy as a team sport.
I mean, unless you're doing stand up, which of course
then you're not passing, you're just shooting the whole time
and helping that for a decent shot percentage. But yeah,
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all right, at SNL, I mean it is all about
like we're all pulling in the right direction, and honestly,
not just not just the.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Cast, but like the writers and everything.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
You just try to like supplement your ego every week
to try to be a team player and do do
what's needed to get a win.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Excellent, use to sublimate as we continue right now. You're
no stranger to podcast other alan you got. You're part
of an incredible cast in the Audible series The sixty
fourth Man String. John Cena just saw him at Wrestlemedia
and it as well. I mean, how cool has that
experience been?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
That was great?
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I mean that was.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
You know, a little I love to do a little
what do you call it, boys over from time to time.
I mean, it's the easiest paycheck in the world. Allows
me to play the Saint Andrews of Southern Brooklyn an
he wins that I want no, but John Cena is
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the nicest.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Guy in the world.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
And do you guys want to see if I make
this too fudd to fudder to too for Birdie.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
As you're as you're talking and draining a putt would
be the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, finish the thought on, John Cena while you make
the putt right Camraing, So you know your you know
your golf spots.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
I do well, I'm I'm okay this.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Left to right.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
I'm gonna you think left. Get out of here, Jason,
left to right.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Gee, I'm saying stage right.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
I know he's a good golfer. That's why you did.
I think this is this is right in This is literally.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Good use of stage right.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Yeah, first birdie of the day, right, literally first birdie
of the day. So thank you guys. All right, well,
I gotta go. This has been a really good chat.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Let's get a couple more in that you can go
go ahead, Ja, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I realized, I realized what a pain in the ass
i've been.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
So thank you for being paid.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You're such a pain in the ass. And I absolutely
love it too.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You're you're you're a good paid talk about being doing
that Broadway right, Broadways broad right, Broadway around in the
Lower East at Orpheum Theater, Big Gay Jambrie, you were.
You were unbelievable. You did a lot of improv on
a lot of your lines, and it was it was incredible.
As off the cuff. It was scary because sometimes the
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producers were in the building and I was like, oh
my god, they're just beat red because you just went
off and hauled off on everybody. How was that, you know?
Coming up with that? Is that just in the moment
or is it something that you write down a little bit?
You j got down some notes before the show.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I mainly tried to go off the dome, but I
would certainly write down notes. So something occurred to me,
It was mainly just like you know, an exit monologue
where I'm storming out of the theater and kind of
shitting on our leading lady a little bit, the amazing
Marlon Mindel, and then also trying to shit on the
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play as I on the musical. So if a thought
occurred to me overnight, I would certainly like spring.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Out of my bed and like jot it down in
my notes. But yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It was.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Definitely one of those exercises in trying to push it
as far as I could and let the produces kind
of tell me where the line was, which they did
early on, and in fact it was.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
For a long time it was entirely improvised. And then
as I.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Said, I think.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
It was one where I said I was stormy on
I said I'm going to go get a gun and
they said, you know what they said, Alex nobody liked that,
and and I agreed. It was sort of in the
heat of the moment, and I don't know what came
over me, but that was that was kind of when
they said, we're gonna put some parameters on what you
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can say, and I said, I totally get it because
that was untoward. Nobody needed to say that, and I apologize.
And that was when they rained me in big time
and told me basically the four things that I could say.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
And then it was a lot less fun, but it
was also.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Within the within the you know, the boundaries of what
they desired. So everybody won and I lost.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well, I won because that I think I was there
for that one gun one and I might have been
the only I was.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
There's people laughing.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I was cackling because I was waiting for because he
would be walking out of the theater screaming back at
the cast, so everybody could see the cast trying not
to break and he is saying and no one knows
what he's saying, and he is just saying heinous things
to the cast and the leading lady, Marla Mindel, and
these these actors are just trying not to laugh, and
everybody in the theater is just going bananas. So it's
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just an amazing thing. And I mean, you had, you know,
being an improv guy. It's just crazy to see what
the talent level that you guys have. And it's not
talks about enough of how where that comes from in
the space you pull that from.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Thanks Ben, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
I mean, the talent level in that cast was off
the charts. The least I could do was try to
improvise my keystra off everything, because I sure as hell
wasn't gonna pull my weight in the singing portion of
the show. Where again, from the time we started the
process of that show where I had a full song solo,
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so the next phase of the process where I shared
that song with other people till the final phase where
we were actually on stage doing it, and I was
no longer in that song. You know, they knew that
the mof Dog only needed to sing about fifteen seconds.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Towards the end, padded by other better voices.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
So I had to bring some good, hard yuck yucks
in me impropit words and to pull my way because
your wife included everybody in that cap had an insane voice.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
You're no slouchy Alex speaking of improvo. Coming from Chicago,
you're part of Second City. Jason and I often asked
as Canadians, why are Canadians so funny? Why are Chicago
and so funny? I mean legendary, the stepa Wolf and
Second City, that whold experience.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I think Chicagoans have a chip on their shoulder. I'm
no different. I wouldn't be surprised if Canadians do too,
not necessarily in a dickhead way, but one where you
kind of have a little something to prove, you know
what I mean, Like you're you guys. I mean, congrats
by the way, I'm becoming the fifty first state because
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I think that'll maybe.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Please We're dicks through through smiling teeth, That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, very very nice natural teeth.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
By the way, thank you, not fake at all.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
I do like your chompers, but I've also seen you
without them, and both are just beauty.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
I think, I seriously, it's such a cool look when
a hockey player doesn't have teeth, like and I think
you told me what you like, had them replaced enough
times where then they were based your dentists were like,
actually you should just wait until you're retired, because you're
basically you're just gonna screw yourself up here, and just
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go with the tooth.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Let's look, yeah, they said, they said, just look like
a homeless person, because if you get your teeth knocked
out one more time, you're going to be permanently a
homeless person. So they're like, just just do your thing.
And I was like all right, yeah. And I had
to go to my wife and be like, are you
okay with this? And she's like, I mean, it's kind
of a funny gimmick. And I was like, all right,
let's roll with it.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Ice breaking, Yeah, it's a good icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It is.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Talk a little bit more about Second City though, like
coming from there and how hard it was kind of
getting your chops there and and working on your craft
because that's just an iconic place it is.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah. I did the training center there, but and then
I did a cruise ship gig for four months aboard
the prestigious Norwegian Jewel and and other than that, I didn't.
I never did their touring company or their main stage.
But training there was great.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
It was.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Like my first foray into improv, and it was after college,
and it was.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Exactly what I wanted and needed, and it was.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yeah, it was just a blast.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
You start to meet really really fun, like minded people
who are just looking to get together a few times
a week and makeup bs and try to make each
other laugh.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
It was it was a blast.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
The main thing was like just finding my little community
of you know, fellow improv nerds. But the places where
there were a few other theaters where I would say
I got a little bit more experience that maybe served
me better for the rest of my career, which were
the Annoyance Theater, which anybody out there, if you ever
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go to Chicago and you're looking to see like the
best comedy in town, it's at the Annoyance Theater. It
is like cutting edge, it's different. It's I hate this expression,
but out of the boss uh, and it's very like unexpected.
So the Annoyance is the coolest, greatest there in Chicago.
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Second City is fun too, But yeah, I'm I'm an
Annoyance guy, is what I would say. And it was.
It was rigorous because there is a little bit of
a sense of competition too in the community, Like you know,
you want to you want to be as good as
you can and so you should do it as much
as you can, and so like, yeah, there were years
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where I was doing shows like six nights a week,
whether it was like improv or stand up or sketch
or one man show or whatever.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Like I just tried to get out there and get
my reps.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Last time for me, Alex, I understand you went to
school with all the members of Fall Up Boy?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Same high school?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Yes, North Shore Country Day and when that get on
OI Go Raiders, uh all the field. Yes, Pete wentz.
He was a senior when I was a freshman.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
I'm very cur the interesting research you did.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yes, Pete and I don't really keep up. Although funny enough,
when just two weeks ago my wife and I were
back on the North Or of Chicago when I ran
into his mom at the grocery store and we did
catch up, and it sounds like Pete is doing well.
So what are the odds.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
His other two siblings, Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
They're they're touring nicely. Talk about like as a Chicago guy.
For me, My last one just about you know, growing
up growing up in that sports town, coming up in
that sports town. You know, what were some of any
memories you have for many of the sports team doesn't
have to be the black Hawks, but any of them,
the Cubs, the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I mean, there's it's such a rich history there.
Speaker 9 (38:54):
It really is.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
It's the best sports town in America, all of North America.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
I will say too.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Yeah, I mean growing up like being a kid in
the nineties in Chicago, which Jordan Pippen bowls, Uh, it was.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
It was like being a kid in like the twenties
in the Bronx or something with you know, Babe Ruth
and Lou Garrig playing. It was like, I I still
can't believe that I was at the center of the
basketball universe because like I thankfully friends who had more
money took me to games at the United Center and uh,
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I it was. It was great. I got to see
Jordan play, got to go to some playoff games like
my my best friend's dad's company tickets Holler Bell Flavors
and Fragrances, uh and so.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
And then also they had like seats at the United
States so I would also go to the occasional Blackhawks game,
and like there were some good Blackhawks teams.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
I was a big Chillios fan back in the night.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Some people say ad Nan looks like Chilio's, or he'll
he looks like Chilio's.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
Yeah, I don't see it, but that's great that some
people tell you that.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I was just in Edmonton. I was my dear friend Mike,
my great friends from college. We're leaving the guy because up,
he goes, excuse me you, Chris Jellio's. And I looked
at Mike. He's a huge habswag of Mike. Can you
verify this guy? Thinks him Chris Jellious. He loved it.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Wow, Well I don't know what happened to that guy's eyes.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
But glacka go ahead.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
My Also, I actually had a I had a hockey
stick signed by every member of the nineteen eighty six Blackhawks.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Nice uh.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
And then I gave it to a friend of mine.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
That sounds right.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
I gave it to one of my best friends who's
a bigger hockey fan than me, and it was I
knew he would appreciate it more more than me. But
I hung onto it for a good twenty years. It
might be worth something, although I don't think it was
a great team.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So anyhow, he's now sold in his living in a
mansion sodod in the world.
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
I wonder how he came into that money. But also
this was fun. I don't know, you want sports memories,
what else? I went to the nineteen nine again friends
friends from who have wealthy parents. A friend of mine
took me as his bud to the what they used
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to call workout day at Wrigley Field in the I
think it was the eighty nine or ninety one All
Star Break, whichever one was at Wrigley Field, and so
it was like the day before the All Star Game
when they used to have the old time Old Timers
game and the home Run Derby, And we sat in
the bleachers at Wrigley and watched Ryan Samberg, my favorite
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player still maybe of all time, win the home run
derby at home number twenty three, the other number twenty
three in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I love Ryan Samberg, Rhino. That's a great one.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah, winning the derby too, that's a fun event.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
It was super cool.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Alex, this was super We're cool for us man.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Thank you so much for multitask and getting U in
and we look forward all your projects.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
All this is great.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
I'm trying guys, I series and really thank you guys
for being my good luck charm, because I was getting
ready to walk off this course. It was really looking bleak.
And uh then again the court. The whole before I
signed on with you was I was starting to put
it together.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
And then the one hole that I played.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
While we did this was my one and only birdie
of the day. So I can't say enough about how
much I appreciate.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
You guys bringing that to me today. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
M hmm, Well, thanks Alex. Listen your guy JD. I
mean you've seen him on Broadway. As you said in
that interview, he's gotta he's in a mean streak sometimes
and it's all performers. Fine, well quirky, you know, just
on the golf course hitting birdies. We'll talking to us, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Tal kind of pissed him off for the show. So
but you know by telling him to turn off the
golf cart, Yeah, you can't. You can't listen.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
You gotta let a guy just get in the care
character and perform.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
We gotta go see him perform.
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
We gotta see Piven and Moffatt in person.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
It's great, guys, run script, he's really good. We gotta go.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
We look at us. Are we a comedy podcast here?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
We don't know what we're doing right now, we're gonna
turn our attest to the theater cinephil and sixty going
on Broadway. I've seen now the third iteration of Glengarry
glen Ross, one of my favorite plays ever, the great
David Mammott. Years ago while living in Toronto. This is
what a big fan nam of Glen Garry glen Ross.
I had some buddies that go, let's drive down, let's
make it a Broadway weekend. We'll go watch a Yankee game,
go hit the meat packing district. Amazing we have Shreiber
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played Ricky Roma. For those who know the movie, that's
the al Pacino role. Alan Alda played the machine Levine
and Jeffrey Tamboer, one of my favorite actors, played Erino.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
In that one liv Schreiber won the Tony Were for
Best Actor. Then ten years ago I saw al Pacino,
who again in the movie was Ricky Roma, on stage
he was Chollie Levine, so he's playing the Jack Lemon role.
And Bobby Kinna Valley played Ricky Roma. And now this
recent week and I went and saw Kieran Kolkin hot
Off succession and a real pain Emmy winner and an oscarinner.
I'm gonna go win a Tony. I'm gonna go do
Ricky Roma with David mammont On, Glen Garglen, Ross, Bob
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Odenkirk stole the show unbelievable. Of course, love him as
better call Saul. He was showing the machine Levine and
Bill Burr, who is not an actor.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
He's a comedian.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I do that he's but he's amazing as Moss because
Ed Harris was so good in the movie.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
He's just an angry character.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Fuck you, fucked the lot of you, fuck you all.
I mean, this is Bill Burr doing his act. He's
just an angry salesman. So didn't really feel like a stretch.
But here's what I want to tell you about. The
play is electrifying. It's again with Mammot's words, you can't lose.
It's got that staccato dialect and the repetition makes you
think of the great joke years ago. A rich man
is walking by a bum and the bum asked for
some money. In the richman says, neither a borrower nor
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a lender. B William Shakespeare and he walks away, and
the bum thinks for second he goes, oh, huah, fuck you,
David mammontt So often is Mammont's dialect synonymous with that
gutter level profanity. The play ends and Odin Kirk comes out.
They all dough the bows, and he goes, all right,
I hope you enjoyed the play. I want to talk
to you guys about this Broadway Cares organization.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We need your money.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Uh, we have another week left here, can you please
in the way out give some money? And Beilbur's laughing,
Carr goes lives ex seriously, listen, the country's never been
better for one case, flying through the roof the tariffs
of no issue Broadway. I mean, these tickets are very cheap. Now,
just please give us more of your money. Tell Broadway Cares.
But to be honest you they're gonna raise some more
funds with this.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
He said.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
We have this poster. You know, those playbill posters. We've
all signed them. There's some available outside four hundred dollars. Okay,
I mean adgress aren't what they want formber Okay. We
also have somebody else signed and this is something we
have really special. We have one of one.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
We have the business cards of each of the casts.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
So it says Ricky Roma, you know, Glen Gary, Glenross,
the actual business cards signed by Karen Calker on the back.
He goes every member of this cast, even James Link,
who is the vice principal Liberty Hig if you know
the play to the movie. Of course, he's the one
wh gets due by Ricky Roma.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
One of one.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
We're gonna do an auction right now? Do I hear
three hundred? We heard four hundred, five hundred, six hundred thousand,
fifteen hundred, And you know what it's like, Jay, I'm
not quite the back, but I'm in the middle, and
there's a one behind me who's screaming like you have
the hand up. She's ready to go, and I'm like,
they can't sear that far the house lights, et cetera.
The number gets up to twenty twenty, five hundred, three thousand,
thirty five hundred. To be clear, it's seven business cards
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signed by the cast. We're up to four thousand dollars.
It gets up to five. Oden Grek goers, all right,
heng Hey, he calls it to Shelley.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
What everbody goes?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Hey, can we get another one of these, Like I
know it's one of one, but like, this is crazy.
These guys are not gonna say no, we'll sign the
cards again because I got one more for you.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Whoever wins this.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
You're gonna come back with this right now and have
a drink and Burs starts laughing again. You're gonna have
a drink with Bill Burr and me and Kate. We're
gonna hang out for fifteen minutes. You want selfies, you
want videos, you can hang out. Let's ask me any
question you want. Now the price goes up, the final bid,
and they had two of them because they go, let's
just give it to both these guys. Sixty eight hundred dollars. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
New York is alive and thriving. And they took and
they took the subway home with the bums.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Broadway Cares a live auction from Bob Odenkirk. It was
very entertaining and it's a great, great place, and I'll
go check it out, still playing for a couple more months.
To one point about Clen Garry, I would quickly point out,
because Tallasey's seen the movie, A lot of people go
to the play they go, I came with the Alec Baldwin. See, eh,
that's only in the movie. It's not in the original play.
My buddy ry Rusilo went years ago. He's like, oh,
where's the acbaal was?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
There is no otball was.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Manett wrote that specifically for the movies, like what ABC
always be closing and go that's not in the play.
They're like, ah, so, just somebody be aware of that.
Great say not the play.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
That's only in the movie.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Now you're not going.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Congratulations at Taylor Hall three year, nine point five million
dollar contract with the Carolina Hurricanes the day after the
team beat the Devil's Advanced secround of the playoffs. Yeah
Worthy praised thirty three year old Hall. It's interesting journey
Jay first overall pick twenty ten draft. He's playing the
second round, just the second time. It's his sixth team
in six seasons. But it looks like he finally has
found a good fit. I just think it's an interesting story.
(47:45):
Sometimes these guys come, they go out. He wasn't what
we're expecting is the first pick. He's had ups and downs,
but ultimately he's still playing hockey. He's still playing a
role in the team. You played briefly with Hall in Carolina.
What can you tell me about Taylor Hall?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
I played with them in Arizona. But yeah, you know,
he's a great listen. He's a horse out there, and
I think he plays when he slotted in the right role,
he's extremely effective. And you know, I think people always
look back to that MVP year he had with the
Devils and wanted him to always recreate that, But I
don't think at his essence that's who he is as
a player. I think he's very much a secondary scorer
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that can go up and down in terms of he
can provide you with top line offense, or he can
kind of be in a supporting cast. And I think
he again you see the Caroline Hurricanes. If you fit
that system, you fit that system. If you're a guy
that can skate and you can follow a system like
Rod Brendanmore implements, you're gonna be just fine and you're
going to thrive in that. In that kind of culture there,
(48:39):
you could see Logan Sankovin's another one. He kind of
fits the mold of what Rod Brendanmore likes, and I
think Taylor is a perfect fit. Good trade sometimes it's
the second piece of the trade that ends up being
the one that's the home run, and it's been a
home run for him. I think, you know, when you
get him at that price point, I think it's really good.
He takes care of himself. He did have a couple
of big injuries, but he's an absolute horse in the
(49:00):
gym and like I said, takes care of himself and
really just wants to play hockey and win. So good
to see. Congratulations to him. I love when guys get paid. Uh,
it's nice. Get your paiper boo boo, and hope we
have him on the show one day.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Nice, that'd be great.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, well, say if we can get him a.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Great nugget from tal Hart Trophy winners who have won
a Whaler's jersey at some point in their career, Gordie
how Bobby Hall, Chris Pronger, and Taylor Hall.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
He did Yeah, yeah, the Whaler's nice little throwback.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
You know, if tal would, if his research would be
as good as those nuggets, I'd tell you what.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Anything, whalers, you're not going to beat. Tell like he's
looking at.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
The whalers, He's he's.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Fucking dialed gotta get oulf Samus on the pod Olf
ghosted him.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, well, that's tough story.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
From the time Barrett Hayton tight lipped about the Utah
Hockey Club's name when he appeared on our show. Great guy,
but just visibly uncomfortable. It felt like we were giving him,
like he was disclosing government secrets. He would not tell
us what's Utahn I mean just say yeah, yeah, he's
clearly the best thing. He's like, I'm really sure, guys,
but you the pup may have spoiled the surprise. Tuesday night,
(50:07):
the team's official YouTube channel briefly featured the handle Utah
Mammoth indicator the team will become the Mammoths next season. Well,
I just you said to me, you kind of like
Utah Hockey Club. I don't thank god it's not Utah
Hockey Club. I wouldn't mind of Utah was but honestly
it should have.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Been the YI are you nuts Utah wasat You're just
trying to get You're trying to go viral.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
No, Utah Outlaws. Outlaws is good to be good because
the story of the Mormons.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
But what do you think about the Mammoth Like mammoth
cracking big one tonight in Utah next awful.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
I don't think it. I just I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Okay, can you give me Yeddie is your second best option?
Speaker 4 (50:46):
Yeah? No, of course. Utah Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Or I like the Utah.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Range because mountain ranges wasatch a lot of big mountains
of Utah Range. Something simple rolls off the tongue. But
I like the Utah Outlaws.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
But listen, Utah Hockey Club is kind of I like
U tai Che gives it a little bit of a
European vibe.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
And and yeah, that's why I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
You're, Yeah, you're you're.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I'm an isolationist. I don't like the European.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
You're drill, Yeah, your drill, baby drill.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
By the way, Yet he had copperate issues. Scroll pay
the fine. They should have done it.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Who cares they should have He's got enough money, Ryan Smith,
three stars?
Speaker 2 (51:23):
What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Uh, I have to do it. I'm gonna go with
the rat King himself, Bradmarshamp. I think the last two
games in that Tampa Bay Lightning series, I just think
he was everything that they brought him in to be
and I think he's getting real comfortable and and just
it was great on the penalty kill, was great offensively,
uh did a ton of great playmaking and then was
(51:47):
physical and and shit disturbing, And that's what they need
out of him. And I just think it was a
little glimpse into what this team is really going to
be moving forward. And and right now I might switch
from Tampa Bay Lighting to Florida Panthers going to the finals.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Wow, Okay, that's bold. Before I get to Taos.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Pick Tom Wilson goal assists as the Capitals take care of.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Darryl Demurs the Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
But it's not just because the performance on the ice
or his hit on Alexander Carrier. It's the fact that
he was wiping mocked tears. The best scene of fake
cranging he will see in the NHL playoffs. Tom Wilson
speaking of shit disturbing, agitating to the n DEGREE fun
player to watch out there on the ice.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Tommy Wilson's my start.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Tal Yeah, I'm gonna go with the guy who who
I feel doesn't get enough acknowledgment. And Evan Bouchard with
the Edmonton Oilers. He is keyed this turnaround for the
Oilers in their series with LA. I mean, I think
you could say the Kings have kind of keyed it
by choking every game. But you know, two goals in
Game three, two goals in Game four. He played almost
(52:45):
thirty six minutes in Game four in that overtime win.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
He is the Chris Bosh of the Big three.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
I'm gonna be erring to wait too.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Zach Hyman. Zach Hyman's not Chris Bosh. No, I would
say I would.
Speaker 5 (52:59):
Call bigger part of their offense than Zach kimon Is.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah, but I would call him the Ray Allen. Is
that part of the same.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
I would call him in the Ray Allen. I think.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
Buchard would be more of a three point shooter than Shack.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
But to be clear, Toal's trying to say the third
biggest star, I think that's what you're.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Trying to say.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yes, he's, yeah, the biggest piece of their offense.
Speaker 7 (53:21):
Obviously defensively, he's not exactly a shutdown guy, but he is.
Speaker 5 (53:24):
You know, he was listening five.
Speaker 7 (53:27):
He was top five in d man scoring this season
on what he was considered a down year for him.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
Compared to last year.
Speaker 7 (53:33):
Defensively second in playoffs scoring among the men behind Cam Fowler,
who's you know, gone off in the first round for
Saint Louis. I mean, I think he's a huge part
of that team moving forward in these playoffs, and so
that's why we're going to give him a little more attention.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
I I'm always bullish on him because you know, people
always have really he's really knee jerk reactionary every game
because you're either going to get really good or really bad.
And I just think what makes him so good is
what infuriates people is that he's so calm in the pocket,
just like a quarterback, and he makes fucking bad turnovers
and he has laxed today's goal at times. But that's
(54:10):
what makes him so good is his heart beat is
never above sixty beats per minute.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Three stars and playing More stars to come as we
continue here on NHL Unscripted, two episodes every week, Overcoming
Wi Fi and a Whispering Jason de Murs. Now we
know how he talks in bed. I think we chill
hit Miller's just soft dulcet tones.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
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