Bryan Berard's Unique Career: Stampeding Mammoth, Red-Hot Devils and our Favorite Hockey Names.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's the Final Countdown or is it? Here? On NHL Unscripted,
we have a great episode coming up. What's in a Name?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Ivan Ivan Zarlie Zilabsky, We run through our favorite hockey
names of all time.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Our special guest today is Brian Barrard.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Overcame the horrific eye injury stories from the Tronomy Police
and the New York Islanders, plus imposter syndrome.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Who's Legit and who is it? JD? Good to see you, buddy,
rock and Roll Halloween right around the corner.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Zemgiz Gigginson's.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Another great one. I thought of last night.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Alt two goals last night too, al.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Post which Don Cherry Wentz famously said his name sounds
against dog food.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I mean the names, there's so many good ones. There's
so many good names too. But the one who's still
in the league Sem gets gig andsonse Yeah, I need
a good, I need a good It's from the you know, Seinfeld.
I like big them g giginsense.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Speaking of Bruins Senator's game Prime Monday Night Hockey, as
you're waiting in the scrum to talk to Marcus Sperm,
the Bruins coach.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thomas turning me, he goes, think about the Germans.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is they always have like that guttural sound like it's
true Gigginsons like like you'll ever hear like a falsetto German.
It's always tough, Marcus Stum. We've got to get the
bucking deep. We've got to work through the neutral zone.
Like but the Bruins looked like ass Marco, You've got
seven goals, the outaway sentators.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You've got to work harder. You have to get deep,
get the buck down there. But a very happy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't know relationship with Marcos Stern, but I gotta
tell you, I'm like, I haven't seen a Granted it's October,
let's see this guy in February.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
He just looks thrilled to be a head coach. Happy guy,
great guy. Obviously had the success with the Kings.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, yeah, who knows, what is you know? You
bringing up that game is just like sault in the room,
assault in the wound. For me to sit here and
watch this, watch you cheating on me consistently every Monday night,
every Monday night in Ottawa with those shitty ass jerseys
they have.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But the third jersey prutal.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
But they put up seven two games in a row,
and then they give up seven. They just it's either
they lose by it, they give up seven goals and
they score seven goals. But you are the connective.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Tissue though, Prime Monday Night Hockey. What's what's the connector
I have? Jason Demers last week Tyson Nash first words, Oh, okay,
he didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
There's the best part our producer invention.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
You're give me with our host Adnan Burk pause, he goes,
does he do a podcast for Jason Demerse.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's like, yeah, the reason that Jeff laughed.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
He goes, this guy's been in the business twenty three years,
six years of the scoring Canada, nine years of espn
M will be never NHL. And you know him cinephile
because you know him because the podcast. Jason, that's the
first Oh, that's the podcast. And de Mersey's like, that's great.
Visit that the same thing. Oh, oh, that's podcast. And
Demurs I've talked him before on screen.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm the fungus. I'm the fungus, I'm the I'm the itch.
You just can't get rid of. I'm always there is there.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
But Nash is like he is a JD two point zero.
Like working with him felt like I was working with you.
Like he's funny.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah he's I mean he's yeah, he's he's so quick witted.
He's got his like he's got his one liners that
he he throws out. He probably smoke a stick. He
made a couple of those jokes, for sure. They so
just NonStop. They're so good. But oh yeah, he's a
great He's a great guy, really good guy.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
He really is nos for Nichols. He was, he was dropping.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Those for Nichols. That's a good one. I always like
what he says that the nose got a nose for Nichols.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It was definitely entertaining.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Speaking of Tyson, Nash's someone with the Nash cast. He's
doing twelve games this year in Utah. So tusks up
a few months in Utah. They've revealed their new mascot,
the Mammoth. Of course, Tusky is the mascot not to
be mistake with Hurricanes Jim Eric Tulsky. But not sure
an expected this start here j D from the Utah Mammot.
Seven wins in a row before they got thumped in
Edmonton on Tuesday. Nick Schmaltz, Clayton Keller, Logan Cooley, Dylan Gunthard,

(04:03):
JJ Paterka have good mind for twenty eight goals in
the team's first eleven games. Schmaltz some of the league
leaders with seventeen points. I know some of those guys.
I'm sure you know from your time with the Coyotes.
What do you make of this run. I don't think
anyone saw this coming here from the Mammoth in the Central.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's a crazy I mean, you know, it to be expected.
I think early they got off to a hot start
and they're kind of you know, they're riding that speed
and the riding those the youth, those two lines. I mean,
it's crazy to think Nick Schmaltz. If I'm not mistaken,
Nick Schmaltz is on his last year, and so is

(04:39):
Logan Cooley. They both had an opportunity to sign. Logan
Cooley is now probably the price tag. If I'm Bill Armstrong,
He's just staring at the contract counter and the thing
just keeps ticking up every game. Because Nick Schmaltz is
third in the league in points in the league. Who

(05:00):
to thunk it, But I mean those two lines are
you know, but that peterca Cooley Gunther line has been
so good. They're so they're so fast and they play
so well off each other. And then you know, we
already know about the Schmaltz Keller hate line. That's been
something that's been good now for a couple of years.
So they're they're getting so much scoring and I think

(05:21):
they just play this run and gun offense and they
don't mind to give up a couple I know they
got caught last game against Edmonton, but listen, Edmonton is
two time Cup final you know attendee, and they still
got a good pedigree and they need to get some wins.
So that was a desperation game for Edmonton. But yeah, man,
this is a this is a tough central and I

(05:43):
kinda we allude to it all the time about like
the importance of banking points early in the season, like
you got to get these wins. You got to find
a way because now's the time to get the wins
because not every team's at their best. So if you
can get points when everybody's kind of figuring out the
details aren't there, there's mistakes. You know, these games are
only going to get harder to win. So now that

(06:03):
they've picked up a lot of wins, I think it's
really promising for them.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Do they do.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think they hold on to it. They've given this
up themselves a good opportunity, So I don't think they're impostors.
I think they're going to contend for a playoff spot
and it's probably the best best start they could could
have got.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, so you don't see them winning the Central but
at least contending for a playoff spot, which even a
year ago they're on the outside looking him for a
wildcards to definitely improved team. To your point about banking wins,
you were talking to Marcos Sturmer about this. It's like,
you know how compressed the schedule is JD. It's crazy
so much sh tell us you guys, I've had one
practice in nine days. I'm like, wow, dude, you literally
play a game the next day you're playing again. Maybe

(06:42):
you got a day off plan again. And he's like,
and it's mandated now with the CBA as far as
the number.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Of practices, So coaches love practice.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hey, we're gonna break down some stuff drilled in players
like man, I just want to play the games. So
you're right, if you blink, you're like man if utuh
goes in a little run here four or five. We
just banked eight points against teams that are retired out
of favor having practice, So I'm with you. The compress
schedule means if you can bank points early, not so
you can coach, but it can really pay dividends later
in the season.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, because you you kind of look at the it's
a different you. The way you're playing is you know
you're playing in these sections in terms of like you know,
twenty games, twenty games, and you kind of set yourself
up as a team with these milestones. But with the Olympics,
it's kind of get to the Olympics, it's just sprint.

(07:28):
If there's two weeks off, or you have two and
a half three weeks off, then it's another sprint. So
it's like if you're injured, that's where you get healthy.
So if you're a team, you're kind of like you're
really watching that schedule and you're trying to manage guys,
but you also have to like get these points, so
you can't just be giving guys days off. But you're
kind of stuck. You're kind of hamstrung to that that

(07:51):
the schedule, as Stirm was saying, like, I think both
teams that when I was watching the Prime game, was
like both teams had both teams had only practiced like
once and nine days and they've only been together like
once or twice. And it's like that's that's the toughest
part if you're like an injured guy coming back, because
you don't get those reps with the team, you're just
like throwing into the fucking fire.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he said, normally morning skate, as you know, you're
just kind of getting loose a little bit, you know,
just just getting out there because now like we're trying
to teach stuff, we're trying to use morning skate as
their practice.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's their only practice time, so you're really trying to
drill it.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
In meantime, the Devil's league best eight wins in a
row before getting humbled in Colorado on Tuesday. Jack Hughes
looking locked in since undergoing shoulder surgery in March, fourteen.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Points in ten games.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
We know Ken Danico has the Cigars ready to go,
but do you think New Jersey is the team to beat?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
In the Metro. Previously you said it's a wide open division.
Can Jersey take it? I do well.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think the Metro is the worst division in hockey.
So I think it's you know, we initially had Carolina
kind of sitting the top. They've ran into some injury
problems early with Slaven and a couple other guys going down.
But listen, this is a team in New Jersey that
had some injury problems last year. Jack's healthy, Douggie Hamilton healthy,

(09:05):
Doug Hamilton's running the first power play. It looks very
good right now. Their power play is tied for fifth
in the league, clipping around like twenty eight percent. You know,
you got Luke Cues, you got in up front, you
got a bunch of guys that are very good offensively,
and they're playing well together. Arsity Gritzik is like a
is a nice addition. This young kid coming in from

(09:27):
Russia's been really good for them. But Jack and Jasper
have just been fantastic. I mean, they're just they're they're
leading the league in goals per game. Uh, you know,
they're just shy of four goals the game, which is
pretty pretty incredible when you look at those numbers. In
terms of what they're capable of doing, and they're they're
doing it in different ways, but they're playing good hockey

(09:48):
as well. They're playing sound hockey. And you know, you
we talk about banking points. It's a this division specifically.
You saw like Washington last year. Washington went on that
run last year early in the season and they just coasted.
They co because that Metropolitan so fucking bad. It's just
a it's such a bad division. Yeah, and so many

(10:10):
bad teams in it. I mean, you look at it.
It makes me sick to my stomach.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Uh you know, I just Flyers Penguins.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
But it's like you we say that and they're just like,
and man, it's so tough because now I look at
this and I'm like, there are some good teams in
the division. They might not be performing. Maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the best division.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's not the best Caro.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
The only guy that really believed in the Devil's aside
from Candanico was tal Ponchewski. How why were the Devils
your pick to win the division?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, nobody asked, I mean, no one asked me what
my prediction was. But yes, I was picking the Devils
to win the division. Bear in mind, this is also
the guy who went on this podcast and said he
thought the Calgary Flames had a chance to make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, they don't talk about your losses. The talk about
your wins.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
But I did like the Devils.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I love the makeup of their team.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I feel like the core of the players you've mentioned,
they've been together for a while now, like they've been
kind of baking in the oven for a little while.
And I always feel like a team that has its
core kind of evolving together for a few years, eventually
they have their their moment.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I think that moment is, you know, is now for
this team.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I think the division, the metrosexual division is wide open Metro.
I love their goal to take Jake Allen's been great.
Jake Allen's been fantastic for them. With the main guy
markstrom out, I just I think they're deep up front.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean, listen, Ken Danico's happy smoking seven scars
a day. We're all happy. That's all we can ask for.
Happy Danico with the cigars and music. You know, I
I went to rehabits all.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I know, because when you when you replace one addiction,
you have to replace something else. I said, so the
booze cigars. He's like, yeah, I go, what about like,
you know, healthy eating. What if you went from like
booze broccoli.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, gotta have a little gotta have a little joy
in life. No, exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Everybody advice, I'm like, I got it.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You need them, you need a little one.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
All right.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Jason Devers has never been accused of being an impostor.
Everywhere he goes he fits in well by way. Well
maybe maybe sometimes when we watch them, because this guy's
an imposture. He doesn't belong here. We're gonna move impost syndrome.
Ten games in, I can't wait to watch Penguin's Lightning.
I'm not a Penguin's least, by the way. Coming up
on prime minated hockey, I'm like, well, the Penguins, I'm
gonna be watching them up. Oh my god, postures are

(12:31):
not This is a legit run from Sydney Crossman Company.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are the Lightning? Are they finished? The Kraken's gonna get done?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
John Forst is like, watch up for come on, you're
the voice to the Krack and you're lying to me.
He's like, I'm telling you right now, they're gonna fight
for a playoff spot, and the Blues and Wild are struggling, so.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
We'll go through each one.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
JD.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Penguins are seven two and two might be on the
little shocking things. So for this early hockey season, impostures
are not.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Man I I tell you what, Dan Muse, the muse,
the amuse bouche. Yes, has these guys playing and some
structured ass hockey, but there's a lot. Listen, how can
you start a rebuild when you have Crosby and Malkin.
These guys just ruined rebuilding plans. Dubus is probably like,

(13:17):
I'm gonna bring Anthony, Mantha and Justin brezo In and
to play alongside a guinea Malkin. Unbeknownst to everybody that
both these guys Manth and Brazil would have breakout seasons
alongside Malkin. And this line is like one of the
best lines in hockey. Yes, I said it. You have
these guys with all that size, they're playing so well together.

(13:40):
They all have a little bit of skill, obviously Malkin's skill,
but Mantha, they all have good hands around the net.
They're huge. You can't push them off the puck. In
today's NHL. They all can skate fairly decent. It is
just an unbelieve It's their best line in Pittsburgh and
one of the best lines in hockey right now. Brazil
scored last night too. These guys are so good, they're

(14:01):
playing so well together. But this team, Sidney Crosby, look
at what Sidney Crosby's doing in this league. I mean,
at this age, at this I don't want to say
advanced age because he's the same. He's a year older
than me, so that doesn't count. He's a young pop.
But man, oh man, is this guy just unbelievable. And
there's some crazy stats of like their defensive structure is

(14:25):
really good, or it's their goals allowed as lower they're
getting you know what it is, They're getting great goaltending
is the biggest thing. Archer see Lofts, your boy has
been the last save in my NHL career. I jump
started him. The last shot, the last last shot that
got saved by on Jason de Murz an old JD

(14:48):
was by Archers. She Lofts and the NHL team saw
him make that save and said, this kid is going
to be a stut But I I don't think they're imposters.
I think this, I think they've I think Dubas is
looking at this being like, oh shit, now I gotta
go win a cup. Yeah, and I gotta go try

(15:08):
to win. Who to thunk it? Said the kid back
in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Meantime, the Tampa Bay Lightning four four and two overall,
two and three.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
On a home ice.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You mentioned Zemis Girginson's The Lightning are hosting the Stars
after Kurgans the two gold game against Petters and the
Lightning's five to win. Lightning right now, average team impost
or not. Eventually the turn the Wormwole turn Jady. Eventually
you go from being a juggernautcha team that's all of
a sudden fallen a little bit. Has that happened the Lightning?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I I I do believe, so, you know, it kind
of stems from last year a little bit when we
were talking about the playoffs. I just don't know if
Vasilevsky health wise can hold up. He played great last game,
and but you know, they they're kind of always a
couple of injuries there. You know. I just feel like

(15:59):
the finn and and I don't love the way their
decoor looks. They I think losing Purvis was a big loss.
It's just an interesting one with them. I'm on the fence,
so I want to say I'm just gonna lean no
and be contrariant to not be like, yes, they're great.
You know, they got Kucher off point hegel Genseil. But

(16:19):
I want to say, like, I think something's awry with
this team. I don't know, I don't quite know what
it is, but I watched them and I don't love
what I'm seeing. So but again, this is one of
those teams of the pedigree that can probably that'll shove
it up my ass in two weeks and rattle off
eight wins, kind of like the tal Ponchewsky call of
Calgary being a good team. That's one of the worst

(16:41):
takes of all times. That's it's up there.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Want in and listen what happens in the group.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Chuck Taw wanted in because he called the devil so
goll give a little bit of love then, for okay,
I didn't give me some love, I'll be self deprecating,
mentioned my flames pick, and now we're just mercilessly broutbeating
him for the flames pick.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
We have to Yeah, I'd say for that pickets, for
that pickets deserved. Yeah, they're they're they're they are tepid,
to say the least.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Their offense is pop gun the wild top imposter or not.
They lot twenty two goals over their first four home games.
They lost a Utah six two. They lost your Sharks
six five in overtime. They're one five and two when
their opponents scores first. I know, we love Carilla Thrill.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
He had his first even strength goal out of a
team high six so far this season.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But they're three, five and three. They're a subpar team.
Impost or not. I think they're imposts. I didn't love
them at the start of the season. I was a
little worried in this Central Division where a lot of
the teams got significantly better. Uh, I just they're five
on five play has been horrendous. They can't score five

(17:53):
on five. They're relying firmly on their power play. They
have the best power play in the league, so they're
drawing penalties and scoring. It's very dangerous. But you know,
if that goes, if that one cold at all, I mean,
I don't know if they would have won a game
this season. So you know, there's it's tough.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
They're just they're not getting the goaltending they got last
year from Flip Gustavson. They're not getting the you know,
good defensive play that we've come to known from the
Minnesota Wild. You know, you you like their decor on paper,
but it hasn't really been doing the job. I'm just

(18:32):
not I'm I'm a little worried about them, and I
don't love the start in the Central Division. I think
that we tell again, I'll keep harping on banking points,
but the one division where that is paramount that you
need to bank points early is this Central Division. Because
they we saw last year with Colorado, Winnipeg and Dallas
they just held that they held that spot for the

(18:54):
whole season. So it's like you need to get up there.
And you're already started way way back right now, Like
this is not they We're in dire straits. You just
signed the highest paid player, Carill Caprisov, who's played well
to this massive contract, and all signs are pointing to
this is a team that's going to the playoffs, that's

(19:14):
playoff bound, and just a whimpering effort early in the season.
Don't love it don't love it.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Seetle Cracking right now, surprisingly a good start. This is
a good story, by the way, Brandon Montory two goals
Shane Wright scored last night the Crack and they lose
the halves for three and overtime. But Montour in his
tenth season eighteen goals last year, he left the Cracking
for four games last week to do his family and
led the death of his older brother Cameron from complications
from als. Of course, our thoughts the Montour family. Great

(19:41):
to see him come back in the ice and score
a couple of goals. Cracking right now five to two
and three. I don't think many people have them as
a playoff team. Maybe they're the team that hover around
but better than expected so far. Imposter or not for
Shane Wright and company.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh a tough one. I mean that was a beautiful
moment Pod Coles and going up to Montour. I know
there's a video that very sad for them on tour family,
But you know, getting to this Kracking team, I mean
they're kind of middling in all team stats. They're not
really you know, jump, they don't jump off the page

(20:17):
at you. But they're kind of playing just a decent
brand of hockey, and they're getting great goaltending from Joey
Decord on most nights. He's keeping them in gains. You know.
I think the addition of Mason Marchman really helps. They
get a little bit more snarl to them, and they
have a back end that is very good on its
best night. So you know, it's I don't want to

(20:40):
give it. I still think jury's out. I still think
it's an imposter. But the one caveat and the one
thing I'll say is after the poorest metropolitan division, the
Pacific is not much better. So the Pacific is a
little light, you know. And I think the Pacific, there's

(21:00):
really three teams in that Pacific Anaheim, they Vegas, and
Edmonton just because of their pedigree. After that, I think
it's wide open. But I don't know if there's going
to be five Central teams or not that make the playoffs.
So I think Seattle's competing for a playoff spot. They
are not going to be competing at the top. They're
going to be in that wild card bid. But I

(21:25):
I can't get on board with this. I need to
see another ten games.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Tel.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I don't know, I need another ten from them.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I like it a little ten game towel.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Let's we're gonna start calling them ten game twel titty
tow to.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Ditty towe meantime for the Rangers in the Canucks. You know,
Egor Shister can actually put the blame on himself. Speaking
of goal toen, he was, you know, a little bit
d So what happens. Jonathan Quick comes in, He gets
his sixty fourth shutout twenty three, saves the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
J T. Miller returned to Vancouver and the Rangers win
it to nothing. But they're four to five and two team.
They're imposters, right.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, they stand they don't have enough upfront. Back ends
not deep enough. You know, it really falls off after
Fox and Gavrikov. Not to say these guys some good players,
Braden Schneider. You know they have the goaltending, but I
just don't know if they have the jam up front.
You know, they really hoped Lafarnier is gonna be this

(22:18):
one hundred point player and shown flashes of it. He
just can't find any consistency. Mika's advantage that hasn't sweat
once in his twelve year career. He's played better though,
but just hasn't just hasn't lived up to what we
expected from New York. But I never loved this lineup

(22:39):
from the start. And then you, you know, you take
out Vincent Trocheck, who's kind of a little bit of
an engine for this, this this depth down the middle.
I just I don't see it. Imposters for me, don't.
I don't see it at all.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
A couple more to go, and these are good stories
from Detroit red Wings. Year nine of the Eyes are playing.
There's seven and three right now. We talked with the
red Wings last year. Excuse me last week? What a
great start throw threw off too. Are the Red Wings
imposters or not? It feels like this team's jit.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
They're always imposters to me until they until I see
him down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
They aren't until they disprove because it's.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, they gotta they gotta prove me. They gotta prove
me wrong.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Dylan Larkin is not an impost then he's scored.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
No, Dylan Dialon, Dilon's a player. And I tell you
what coalition of the seventh rounders em and Finney fucking
studs dark horse for the dark Horse for the Calder
Nice I like it.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And by the way, he's got eight goals over all
the season and one more for you. I feel like
this has to be an impost Blackhawks five three and two.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I tell you what, This team's fucking exciting right now
to watch. If you're watching the Blackhawks. If you are,
if you listen to us on your way to work,
tune into the Blackhawks, folks. This is a fun team
to watch. Connor Bodard he's playing hockey. He's he's doing
what we all expected him to do. I mean that
hat trick last night was diabolical. The way he was.

(24:02):
The release he has right now it's on another level.
I don't know if he's using a twenty five flex
stick because the whip on that thing is wow. It's
like a dominatrix whip in one of its servants.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I mean, I didn't think we're going to do a
BDSM conversation, but yeah, he can it be in a workhorse.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
How about Spencer Night that you know.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
What, That's why I need you for those things. Good
for Spencer Night signs a ticket, wants to be a
number one, had wasn't able to get an opportunity. He
is now saying come to me watch me bow Acknowledge
and I am Spencer Knight. He has been great. I

(24:46):
mean their decourse, listen, their decoors young but you know
Alex vlasek liv shoon Off, Wyat Kaiser, Sam Renzel, these
are like some butting stars. These are picks that have
a lot of upside to them. So you know when
Blaschell comes in and these guys are playing good ho
I mean Frank Naser, the Naser Laser has been has

(25:08):
I feel has really pushed Connor Badard to be better.
And because he kind of has that swag, he's like
a little bit of the the anti Connor Berdhard. You know,
he's like a little bit more We got some piss
to him, a little bit cocky, arrogant. Connor kind of
was that, but in a weird way, kind of a
way that you wanted to you didn't want to love,

(25:29):
You wanted to punch him in the face. But you
see him kind of relaxing a bit playing hockey and
like getting a little bit of swag out to him,
getting that swagger that we all knew he had in him.
So I don't want to I don't want to call
him imposters because I still think anything above what we
all thought. They'd win five games this year, so they're

(25:51):
already exceeding expectations. So I just want to like enjoy
this a little bit, and I hope this is this
is what you want out of a rebuild, is you
want to take a step forward. I wish there were
no bad teams in the NHL and everybody was good
so we could watch exciting hockey because I hate rebuilding
as an absolute passion of mine. I can't stand it.

(26:12):
I think this is not in a development league. You
have to try to win, and I like what they're
doing right now in Chicago, So it's nice to see
this take a step forward and then for right now
be a team that we hoped would improve a little bit.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, like you said, it's an impost and that you
don't think that they're a contender for a playoff spot,
but not an impost that they're better than you thought
they'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
So they're exciting expectations.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I mean, but dark first NHL hat trick is one
hundred and sixtieth career game. He becomes one of the
seventh Blackhawks player to score at least fifty goals before
turning twenty one. It's crazy. I think how young this
guy still is. One more topic than We'll do a
quick time out and get to Brian Barard or special guest.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But first your boy, Max Selly.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
He won't be twenty years old until the summer, but
he's five goals and eleven points in his last five games,
going a five point game against the Rangers last week
the NHL.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Player of the Week.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Fourth player in league history to get two five point
games before turning twenty. The others are Wayne gretzky Dale,
Howard Schuck and the great Brian Trotcay fifteen points and
nine games, he's fourth the NHL. Is he gonna be
on Team Canada or what?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's go?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah? Yeah, Why would you not want this kid on
Team Canada? This is a I don't know this This
kid is, you know, this is just mad Max Fury
Road Witness, just witness blood Bank. This is you want

(27:43):
this kid Sidney Crosby is. He's a mini Sidney Crosby.
He's a mini sid You know. I kind of eluded
initially like he's gonna be a hybrid of Jonathan Taves
and Sidney Crosby. I was Wren leaning on the Jonathan
Taves side at his best. But this kid is so good.
He works so incredible hard. He's so hard on pucks.

(28:06):
His underlying numbers of like puck battle wins. I know that,
you know, sounds like such a nerd stat, but that's
so important as an indicator of like a guy's will
to win. And you just see it, like you see
him willing like this Sharks team that does not have
enough talent and enough in the pool and enough depth
to really do much, but he's willing them to to

(28:29):
these close games, exciting games. He's just a guy and
I think if you put him around these veterans, these
really good players, he is going to thrive at the Olympics.
And I think he should be considered heavily to be
in this Olympic roster right now on the fourth line,
fourth line center. And I just think he's he's a
guy even if you bring him as a thirteenth but

(28:50):
I just think he's a guy that understands the role
and and and understand he's understands the game and he's
he's it's a lot like Schaefer. He's a he looks
you know, and you have all the jokes with Will
Smith and you know, the sleepovers, and he seems like
a kind of Gigley guy. But his emotional maturity on
the ice is very high, and he's got a high
hockey IQ and that's hard to teach, and that's something

(29:12):
you need to be born with and he was gifted
from the gods. And I just think, man, it's listen.
The Sharks are bad, but we said they'd be exciting.
They are exciting. These games are just must watch hockey
if you if you're a fan of mistakes and goals
and all sorts of ship like that. So so yeah,

(29:34):
so I'm he is not an impostor. And I know
we're not doing the imposter game anymore, but I just
wanted to say he's.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
The real deal from play.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I like the impostor game like it was a fun game,
very f.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
On social media. If you want more imposter games, we're
willing to do that here.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Max Delly, the Baby Faced Assassin still to come here
unscripted tal Ponchewski with a cine file and sixty he's
gonna talk about pro beach hockey. But coming up next
it is indeed Brian Barrard and overcoming considerable in his career,
the highlights and low lights and all of it. It's
coming up next after this on NHL in Scripted. Our

(30:22):
next guest was the first overall selection in the nineteen
ninety five NHL Draft by the Ottawa Senators, who then
sent him to the New York Islanders and then we
won the Calder Trophy as the league's top rookie. He
went on to collect three hundred and twenty three points
in six hundred and nineteen career games with the Islanders,
Maple Leafs, Rangers, Bruins, Blackhawks, and the Blue Jackets. He
also in the Bill Masterton Trophy in two thousand and

(30:43):
four and now serves as president of the Colorado Extreme.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Brian Barrard, Welcome to NHL and Scripted man. Great to
see you.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Colorado Extreme, let's start there.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
What can you tell us about your work with the
organization and that big alumni tournament you have coming up.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
It's a good start for sure. I've been there almost
about a little over a year now. I actually went
out to Askton just to kind of a little fun,
little vacation. My girlfriend and Loopool, a couple of guys
Jeffrey Loopool, Upshawal, my buddy Andy Mack kind of moved
out there during COVID. I met Sheldon Glitski and there
we kind of go. I mean, he started Extreme about
four years ago, basically free hockey. He expected anywhere from

(31:20):
you know, fifty two hundred kids. We're now up to
six hundred kids in the program where youth organization, I mean,
we provide free, free hockey, free ice time, free equipment.
We did a deal with the NHL and Peer, So
the organization has taken off and it's it's it's it's
been Uh, it's been great.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
How how have you seen just the reception and and
the growth and how did this kind of come to be,
you know, just just chatting with these guys. Is it
something that just happened organically or or has it kind
of been planned as you've as you've moved.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Along completely organically? It was it was we went out
there for a little vacate, like I said, and and
uh I I met Sheldon, his wife Katie. This has
been kind of a you know, a second mount for
Sheldon with with his other companies close to kind of
exiting his other company. He's got five kids under ten
years old, under eleven now, so they're all playing. Yeah,
they're all playing hockey. He played at Alabama Huntsville, so

(32:11):
their hockey family I saw, to be honest with I mean,
we stayed and my girlfriend stayed at their house and
just saw what all their family was about. I saw
the coaches he hired. We have hired coaches. We're close
now to two outdoor arenas, full sized outdoor arenas. It
was a limited ice time, and and all the coaches
he hired. I mean, it's it's just a great program.
And the kids down valley again. You know, we all

(32:32):
know hockey is not a middle class sport anymore. So
we're doing the best to provide, you know, great coaching
and development on and off the ice.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Five kids eleven and unders. He does not like sleep.
Hopefully I'll get man his wife.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, that's great. It's great. They have four boys at
one girl and they're they're all leasing up to skate,
so it's great.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Man, that's awesome. Think how much you love the support
the pass it on your kids. Well, taking a memory
lane here, Brian, how shocked are you when you got
traded right after being the first pick in the draft.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
I was definitely I was Actually I was actually hurt
in Montreal, abduct strained, and I was walking around kind
of doing a little shopping during the day and I
got out. I didn't even hear from Milburgh. I actually
heard it from a Sheerwood rep and Toronto called me
and said, You've just been traded to the Leafs and
I was like, no way, there's not a chance. So
actually rushed back to the rushed back to uh rush

(33:20):
back to the hotel, and my coaches were actually assistant
coaches were sitting in the lobby and they're like, you
better get up there. I think it's too late, they
told me, And I went up. I knocked right on
Milbury's door and he's like, he's been traded. So he's like, uh,
it was kind of funny. He's like, we just needed
a goaltender brought. He's like, I needed a goaltender real bad.
And and to be honest with there was nothing it
couldn't have been better for me. I mean, at first,
I was hurt, you know, obviously, you know, I thought

(33:41):
I was gonna be with Long Island for a while.
It was close to home for me, about three hour
drive from my parents, but going to the Leafs, I
mean with Matt's and Stevie Thomas and we were closing
down you know, MSG Maple Leaf Gardens. We had like
ten games left and open up the brand new Aircanada
Center and we had a good run that year too,
so it was it was great for me.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, you also were living in a in a house,
I think from what I've heard with Brian McCabe, Eric
for you show you at a young guy's house, I mean,
talk to me about that, you know, being you know
living with veterans or or you know young guys living
with veterans, but you know, you guys are all young
coming up together. I kind of did that in San

(34:18):
Jose with Devin Setegucci and Tory Mitchell, and it was
actually amazing for my career, you know, because we were
so relaxed all the time, just all being together.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
I agree totally with you. I mean we had a
lot of young young prospects too, I mean, you know
getting there. Brent Lendos was there as well. He started
with you know, struggling with his concussions unfortunately, but as myself,
Cabor Todd Bertuzzi, Eric fi Schow, Singing Palfi, even young
guys like Scott the Chance. So we had a really
good kind of core Kenny Jhsen. So we had a
really good core guys that you know, made it easy

(34:52):
for took the pressure off a little bit. And I
mean we weren't very good the first couple of years,
but still it just made it an easier way to
kind of you know, adapt and playing in the NHL
at at a young age.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I was just say that the coaches just hate that
house too.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
These guys are getting after it all the time. Way
too much fun being had there, right.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh, it definitely was. I mean especially you know, me
and McCabe too. We like to go out a little
bit and back then it was He's on the Island
live music, so it was a lot of fun. I
mean Caber met his wife there and things like that
as well. So we had a lot of fun. And
then you added guys like Ken Blane, a, Richie peelon Micvacota.
We had a great team on and off the l
on the ice, but off the ice, we definitely had

(35:35):
a good team.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Off the ice.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, great off ice team and it was a pretty
interesting time, Brian, because Milbury's replaced as GM with Neil Smith.
He's gone six weeks later, replaced with Garth Snow, who
was the team's backup goal of the year before.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
How did you describe that much change?

Speaker 5 (35:50):
That was a change end to my towards the end.
I mean that that's kind of when after I got traded,
but you know, I went back there for one more
year and that's when gar Snow was in charge, and
and you know DiPietro was there as well, so it
was it was you know that that was definitely a
differ time. That was when the organization really kind of
seemed to be a little bit of you know, I
don't say in a mess, but it was a mess. So,

(36:12):
I mean, it was just it was an experience, that's
what we realized it. There's also the business. You know,
it's a business part of the game as well. It
can be frustrated times and then you see some guys
get disrespected and things like that. So it kind of,
you know, towards the end of the correct that was
towards the end my career kind of left a little
bit of a sour taste in my mouth as far
as the politics, it kind of you see some teammates
and stuff get hurt, and there is the business side
of hockey, so unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, the business side is always can get tricky. And
I mean somebody that you also played for was pack
Quinn and you know, an intimidating figure. You know, do
you have any good pack Quinn stories. I'm sure you
know he was. I'm sure you yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Pat was old school though, so yeah, for some reason,
a lot of the old school coaches like Brian Sutter,
Pac Quinn, even Mike Keenan. I never played for him,
but you know, try to trade for me a couple
of times. Seemed to like me a little bit. I
like playing for the old school guys to be hon
and Pat. Pat was intimidating. He had those big, big,
you know, big Irish fists that would palm the coolers
and he was a big man. But he kind of
opened a door and let us play. And then when

(37:13):
we needed our butts kicked, he kick us in the
butt as well. So Pat, that was funny. I mean,
you know, I mean from Toronto, you know the least
there is no there's no secret what should do. So
Pat used to just be fine we'd be sitting in
the players lounge, you know, in the morning with the
old school warm up with a couple of coffee and
heat packed around the back and a bag.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Had a firm bangla exactly.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
But he would always come through and he just laugh,
he goes they brought I heard it, you know, I
heard you had dance and she was on last night
or something like that. And right enough, I was that
fluid till you know, three thirty four of the more
so the old fluid in Toronto, you.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Downtown, n Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, but he had the he had the good you know,
smirk on and he was he was old school too.
I mean in between periods that year, I think we
had seven or eight guys that smoke butts in between
periods and Patty Quick, Patty Quinn and uh you know
Pat Quinn and Ricky Lee would have the cigars cigars
going in between periods too. No, it wasn't much breathing
in that locker room, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
How is that just being I always I always fascinated
by that, Uh, just guys you know, ripping SIGs in
between and it worked, But I mean, how is that
covering to the room and what a laid back style.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yeah, we had We had the Russian mob there too,
So we had seven eight rushing guys and most of
them were the smoking butts like Danny Markoff and guys
like that that I loved. You know. We had a
hardcore team, which but you know, Masen Dean is probably
probably one of them, and I played with for mess too.
He's one of the better captains I've played for on
and off the ice. Not big vocal guy, but leadership
and he kept that team. We had a bunch of
characters on the team, but that was probably the best

(38:42):
team and probably the best chance I had to want
to stand with the couples on that team.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, there's no question about that. Leaves team certainly was special.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
It was in Toronto, of course, Brian, that you suffered
that devastating eye injury many people thought would end your career.
It was remarkable you were able to come back. Of course,
won the Masters and Trophy later in your career. That
committed to the game. How adamant were you though that
you were going to come back no matter what.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I feel, I wasn't I thought about Crew was doing.
I mean, you know, I caught that stick you know
caught me. It was an accident, but just caught me
the right way. I mean, did a ton of damage.
You know, probably for a good six months to a year,
I thought my crew was over. But then this is,
you know, the surgery start kind of kind of dwindled
a little bit. I had about six or seven eye
surgeries to kind of repair them. Right now. Yeah, never really,

(39:24):
I mean basically it was. It's kind of good thing
because I think that if I would have got some
vision back my brain, I would have two different signals.
I don't know if I would have ever been able
to play. So the one that played with the good
left eye and he came back playing those six or
seven years, it took me a little while to adapt.
I think I got backed offensively, but I think the
toughest part of the game was in the defensive zone
with the one eye covering guys in the slots and

(39:44):
kind of going back for pucks and things like that.
But you know, I was twenty three years old, so
you know, in hindsight, I would have done again.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
So yeah, I mean that's that's amazing too. And like
what was the you know, you talk about the defensive
zone and I played with Michael Grabner who who suffered
an eye injury as well, and he kind of got
a little bit fuzzy this back. But I think to
your point that, like that's interesting. You're like, well, you're
trying to get some vision back, but if you get
a little bit, it's it's distorting to your view and

(40:13):
it's distorting to your brain because you're getting kind of
fuzzy in one eye. So it's almost better to I mean,
it's it's awful to say it's always better to have
just the one eye. But for you defensively, did you
have to like tilt your head like how does that work?
And and also to continue on that when you came
back to the Rangers, like winning the Masters in Trophy,
Like how gratifying was that? You know?

Speaker 5 (40:33):
And the biggest thing I think it's, you know, from
going back for a pocket, you know, my feel and
things for the game. I'd say you can get a
little bit better. But if a guy, well, you know,
one guy was basically chasing me from behind, you kind
of feel where he was or kind of keep your
head on the swive was I'd love to say the defenseman,
but yeah, you know, if two guys would jump me.
That's where I get hit pretty good sometimes, but also
it's just kind of lose and that's where you kind

(40:55):
of lose track of guys. And with one eye and
and no depth perception, made a little definitely tougher defensively,
you know, winning the Masters, and it was something that
you know, I didn't didn't fact that. It was just
more of a I wanted to come back and play hockey,
be part of the locker room again with the boys
and the camaraderie and and things like that. So the
Masterson was just was just a bonus.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
It was a remarkable perseverance, the commitment. He certainly deserved
that award.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Brian, that Rangers team truly unique on paper, stacked, Eric
linch Ross, Theo Fleury, Mark Messier, Brian Leech, Pavelbury, Mike Richtor,
Matthew Barnaby. What do you remember about unique collection of characters?

Speaker 5 (41:29):
That we did not make the playoffs, which is crazy,
that is insane, because I mean that team was again,
we were stacked. I mean, I don't even know how
many All stars we had on that team, but you know,
just got off the rough start right away. Coach got fired,
slats came down you know from from upstairs and Slats
that same I mean, Slats was was awesome to me.

(41:49):
You know, I played all eighty two games that year,
probably was a six or seven defenseman. He could have
sat me many a Knight's but he knew kind of
knew what I was coming from, and when the team
started struggling, he stuck with me and keave an opportunity
to kind of start my comeback. You know. As far
as that team, I just think there was there wasn't
a bucks on the ice, you know for all those
guys and and uh unfortunately, I mean that that definitely
that would have been a nice playoff run if we're

(42:10):
Goulda made it in the playoffs, because I think then
mess could have kind of grabbed the reins. But it was.
It was definitely an interesting year and a lot of
good guys on that team.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Can you give me a specific story, but either Lynn
Dross or Flurry two of my favorites.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Yeah, Flur. Flurry was tough. I mean, we'll keep that Flurry.
I can tell you one good story. Towards the end
of the year, he kind of disappeared and he was
looking at my Porsche to buy and he just He
actually disappeared with my Porsche for for about three or
four months, so I thought he actually stole it from me. Yeah,
he's down in New Mexico and I got his girlfriend
called me at the time and got my dress, and
like two days later FedEx showed up with a check,

(42:41):
but I had his car, he had my car and
just kind of he kind of disappeared on me. He
went down to New Mexico. So it was interesting. He
mentions in his book too is funny.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
But did he just take it?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Did he take it for a test?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Driver was like just take it just to come back? Yeah,
excuse me. Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
In Mexico and somewhere now, I did you know what
kind of Porsche it was?

Speaker 5 (43:01):
That was It was a was a Force Cabrolet just
a night elet support your correct and the big Lindross
was my roommate. So I think I gained about ten
to fifteen pounds that year because that man can eat.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
So yeah, we.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
We just go for you know, we go for nice
dinner and stuff and get back. He'd always he was
good for his room service. Another meal and ice cream
at eleven o'clock at night, level thirty at night. What
was the I follow through. It was whatever could be
a salad. And but we love our ice cream too,
so both of us. I put on some weight that year,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
There's nothing better being on the road with the guys
in that ice cream late night after dinner, just just
the hot scoop of chocolate, scoop of vanilla.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
It was before all the guys had their own rooms too,
so everyone you had roommates and stuff too, so it
was fun.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, and if your if your roommate was eating, you
were eating with them or.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I mean, uh, you know, you finish up your NHL
carew too. You know, back on the Islanders a bit,
you talked about it a little bit going back for
the year, but you know, talk about the Rick d
pahro of it all and did you ever you know,
looking back the way his career went when you played
with him, being like that would ever be a possibility
of something happening just the way he kind of came out,

(44:12):
was shot out of a cannon and then disappeared as
quickly as he came in.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Just as injuries. I mean, Ricky was you know, he
could handle a puck with the best of them. You
know as an athlete, he was a good goaltender, no question.
I mean the first time I met him, he was
jack too. You know, you can tell he was in
the weight room a lot, just as much, and that's
kind of very odd for a goaltender. But you know,
I just think his injuries, I think his knees as
hips more as hips than anything from ended his career.
It just shows, I mean stuff, the sports stuff. You know,

(44:37):
you can be you can be a top of your game,
you know, at any time, and then it kind of
can be taken away from you. So you get to
kind of count your blessings for sure.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, oh, you gotta tell his tal coming in.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Well, I was just gonna ask quickly Brian about you know,
your your draft day and your your draft in general.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
First overall pick, it's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
You know, you're taken by Ottawa, which is a team
that's building up all these assets at the time, and
before you know it, you know, you don't even end
up in Autoway. You get traded for Wade Red And
just curious what you had to share about that experience.
I mean, it must have been just an absolute whirlwind
for an eighteen year old kid. Who's getting ready to
start his NHL career.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
It was I mean, the draft day was awesome. I
mean obviously was an Edmonton you know, some some pretty
big names like Doan, Gimba, Wade Red and a lot
of guys that had great careers went. You know, that
day was you know, my whole family was at brothers, siblings,
you know, my parents. It was a really good day
and I was pumped. Obviously going for Soroll, I was

(45:38):
kind of going back and forth. I didn't know if
I was going to go, but we kind of had
a pretty good idea. On draft day, went to Auto
Senators and to be honest, I kind of got a
bad rap right away because American kid not want to
play in Canada and that was untrue. But definitely I
played in Toronto. That's probably my best city I played in.
Went to Ottawa and that was a problem. I had
a lot of young guys. You know, they had a
lot of young guys. Are really no leadership, especially in

(45:59):
the general man. I don't want to rip on anybody,
but yeah, that the limitations is gone now that point.
The organization was just in a tough spot. So I
went into you know, I went into my first NHL
locker room and just had a bad taste in my
mouth right away. And then they sent me back. You know,
I was kind of I was hoping and ego wise,

(46:20):
you know, being an eighteen year old kid not too
many players play, you know, getting drafted first overall and
playing that next year, and that was a goald mine.
I wanted to play in NHL, was eighteen years old,
and worn Otto sent me home and kind of left
the bad taste in my mouth. It was it wasn't
my hockey decision, it was a financial decision. And that's
what kind of all started. Bruce Garrett at the time
kind of told us, you know, off the record, what
was going on upstairs. And I had Tom Laidlower's an

(46:42):
agent then and just like, let's get me out of here.
So I went back to junior and then they traded
me to you know, Millbury, I know, was having some
issues with read and at the time at training camp
as well started coming showing up from some of my
junior games. So I know the trade was close and
and then there it was, so it kind of it
was a three There was a big deal. Actually it
was a three team trade. I think yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was huge. A lot of players went everywhere. But

(47:03):
I think the but you know, Redding had an unreal career,
so I think they worked out and worked out for
Auto as well.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I think it worked out for It's one of those
the you know, if people get hung off on like
somebody's got to win and lose in a trade. I'm like,
sometimes everybody wins, and that's that's kind of the way
they're designed and meant to be. But you know, a
group that always wins is is your little cast of characters,
You Loops, you know, talk about meet and Jeoffrey Loopol

(47:30):
and you guys striking up quite a very significant friendship
and and you know, if guys have spent a lot
of time together, you know, I've kind of been around
you guys with you know, Ob and Shane O'Brien and
and Upshaw and all those guys, And I mean, you
guys are just some of the must watch TV hilarious
conversations that I've been able to kind of be a
fly on the wall and listen to. You guys are

(47:51):
just so funny when you guys get going. But talk
a bit about Loophole and how he came into your
life and how you guys have just kind of created
this Colorado Extreme which is like just an amazing event.
I think that is a testament to your guys' closeness.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Yeah, that's I mean, those those guys I met basically
the Three Musketeers right or you got Obi, Obi, Uppy
and Loops. I met him first just out kind of
in the Newport, California area. We did a couple the
Vegas tournaments started, just started hanging out. I started during
the lockout, went off to the West Coast and started
hanging out those guys. Obviously, golf was big me and Up.

(48:25):
He would take on Obi and Obi and Loops all
the time, you know, in the golf course. And just
that's how our friendship began and then just kind of
stayed due that. You know, they're younger obviously, probably seventy
eight years younger than I am, you know, the kind
of you know, I went to Phillies camp too, that
was my last NHL camp, and those guys, you know,
Uppy and Loops are there and and just the friendship
was kind of born. And still we got a really

(48:46):
good group of guys hockey in and some baseball guys
as well, you know, just from the West coast and
you know kind of led me to coloradur stream. I mean,
those guys moved out to Aspen obviously during COVID ever
already mentioned that and then yeah, you know I lean
on them too. We have a we have a big
it's our biggest fundraise. So it's Colorado Extreme's biggest fundraiser
coming up. It's it's a fan camp as well. It's
December eleventh to the fourteenth. It's in Aspen. It's it's

(49:09):
an epic weekend. Guys coming on Thursday to stay. The
Sunday we play the on The big game is Saturday
at three pm. We played the as alumni, so we
got about forty I'd say about forty top, you know,
old players coming in for this weekend. Yeah, it's it's huge.
And we had a Fantasy camp you know, part this year.
So on Friday, we're bringing all campers. It's going to

(49:30):
be a complete NHL experience. We got all the equipment
managers coming in. It's amazing. Yeah, so we get to
the we got the Fantasy Camp game. The goal the
goalies are Mark Andre Fleury and Lunk Twist, so there's
not gonna be many goals scored from these campers. Yeah, came.
The campus should be pumped up. So I'll send you
guys some stuff if you don't mind putting it out there.
But yeah, yeah, I appreciate. It's gonna be a great weekend. Lot.

(49:53):
I gotta get in shape, but I just I just
got drafted in a men's league out there, so I'm
looking forward to start playing the games to play in
the playoffs. But but I'm probably I'll probably be the
worst player on the ice, to be honest with I.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Mean, anytime you go to Colorado, it's like and you'd
play the Avalanche. It's like, guys just survived the first shift.
Don't get caught out there in the first shift that.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Morning usually the morning skates. When I suck wind, I die,
and if I dake game time, I'm usually kind of adapted.
But it's it's definitely it definitely takes a toll, especially
where we are. We're gonna be playing. We're down valley
a little bit, but the fantasy game is gonna be
up in Aspens, so we're probably gonna be around eight
nine thousand feet, so there'll definitely be some guys sucking
some wind geez for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Altitude always a challenge, Brian, honestly, man, congrats, So what
was a terrific NHL career, certainly inspiring the way overcame adversity,
playing in different franchises and doing a ton of great
work now post career alumni charitable events, great stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Man, congrats, Thanks guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Thanks once again at Brian Barrard. He was terrific.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
We'll get to some of our favorite names in hockey
history in just a second, but first, Cinephile in sixty
I've been immersed in the World Series in addition to hockey.
Was great to be back in Toronto for the first
two games. Other World Series Jason Dodgers. So I've not
had time any time to watch movies, but Talpinschewsky has
he's squinting right now, isn't about pro Beach Hockey?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Mister magoo, The floor's yours.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
I had a great time last week. Was able to
attend a very cool screening. Uh here in southern California
have this cool new film called The pro Beach Hockey.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Got to meet the meet the director.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
After Jake Simperman is his name, talented guy worked on
this for a long time. Uh, Genie Busses in the
film Luke Robotie, Pat Bresson, Bobby Ryan and it's it's
it's about roller hockey, but it's really about this is
crazy to think about it.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Basically, in the.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Nineties there was a Beach roller Hockey league in Huntington
Beach in Los Angeles that it aired on ESPN two
and it was just this cool renegade league, this new
form of hockey. And the cool craziest part about it
was that the sideline reporter, uh for this league on

(52:06):
ESPN two, is this this young u n h alum
named Ellen Weinberg who would eventually years later go on
to be Ellen Weinberg Hughes, the mother of Quinn, Jake
and Luke Hughes.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah yet, what so there you go.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
So if you're we're talking to the Hughes brothers, ask
them about their mom being on ESPN two back in
the day that I'm.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Really going from the Blues Brothers to the Hughes brothers.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Go ahead, Just really cool film, interesting story.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
You know, we like talking about the convergence of hockey
and movies when we can. We're trying to get j
D cast as the racist coach on this new young
Blood movies.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So give me one racist movie, give me one.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
So here's just just a really cool film pro beach Hockey.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I'm not sure when there'll be other screenings or when
you'll be able to catch it, but great job by Jake.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
And a really fun film. It's it's really cool. I
I was at this, Uh there's this event in San
Francisco and Max McCormick was there. It was signed with
the Crack and he said surgery. He's part of that
film as well. And they're like, you know, they're looking
for distribution. I mean at one point, I don't know
if you mentioned this, but at one point they was

(53:22):
like more viewed. They had more views than like an
NBA playoff game or something, or an NHL hockey game.
Like it was like a they had some ratings that
were insane. I don't know if you saw that in
the movie, but if they mentioned it, tal but it's
a really dah they did.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
They got great ratings and it was just this machine
of content. They literally they they brought in all these
guys to play. They'd come in on the weekend. They
built a outdoor roller rink on the beach, and these
guys would come in every weekend. They'd played two, three,
four games every weekend. They'd get them a bunch of
hotel rooms to stay near the rink. They just absolutely

(53:59):
tie went on all weekend.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It was a party. Yeah, it was totally.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Unique, very cool moment for the for the game before
all the homeless were there.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Oh my god, are you kidding me? On the beach
in Cali.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Get the homeless involved, right, grab a stick.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
If you want some money, you gotta gotta, you know,
defend before they yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Before before they destroyed that that state. Oh no, I'm
not a hey controversial. It's an amazing it's an amazing Honestly,
it's it's a cool story. Well probably arguably one of
the better sizzle reels you'll see out there in trailers.

(54:41):
So I always implore people. But I talked to Max
McCormick about it, and he mentioned Simperton and and and uh,
just a very cool I mean the fact you a
Genie Buss is incredible to kind of dedicate some time
to this as well, Like this was the thing, Like
she's not it's the Lakers talking about the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
No, she's got quite a bit of credibility's no quiet.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Well, she said, the reason she's in it is because
there was a there was a roller hockey league, a
pro roller hockey league that preceded this beach league, and
she owned a team in Los Angeles, and she admits
in the film that owning that team kind of showed
her dad that she could.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Do the job of running the Lakers one day. And
that was that was really yeah, tal amazing stuff, amazing work.
This is kind of one of the this is kind
of one of the better cinophiles.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
This is actually this is he's i mean huge brothers.
He's dropping gd bus Well.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
It's like it's a it's a nice change of pace
from all the David Bammott play right cinephiles, you know,
and talking Francis Ford Coppola. This is a little more
populist and a little hey, but it's this is great.
I love Cinephile's great centephile and sixty and.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Sixty continues, Uh, we want to talk about some funny
names though, because top point at the of the day
in the HL Saturday Night Blackhawks prospect Marcel ourselves facing
offense Abas prospect, Ivan Ivan just awesome. I remember, I
remember what Ivan Ivan got drafted, Like, I can't wait
that this guy I've played against them, you played against
talk to you about Ivan Ivan.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I mean, what's there to talk about?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Good player?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Yeah, good player, a better name.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
He's like Jimmy two times every time you said everything,
it's a two times, Get the papers.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Get the papers. Mitchie State Forward, Riley Funk. Favorite names
in hockey So I love Don Bopray because it's a kid.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
It was just such a fun name to say, Don
Bouprey Al post So and I mentioned earlier. I mean
Ron tug that I mentioned a Chris Berman. Oh you're
not gonna be Ron Ron. You've got a couple of
beauties as well. JD.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
How about for your favorite hockey names, Well, you know
the there's always the ones where people say, like, you know,
Ron Tugnet because you're like, you know, you tugged a
drive or something, or you pulled some Billy guarantee. But listen,
we used to play a game which like helped with
your hockey knowledge. Player knowledge is basically, you say a name,

(57:04):
so you'll say a name of a player in the league.
So let's say you start with. You start with Chris
Pronger because you love Pronger. You have a heart on
for progress. You say Chris Pronger. You have to take
the first letter of the last name, and that is
the first letter of the first name of the next player.
And you got to just keep going until somebody forgets
a name. So if I'd say Chris Pronger, you'd say

(57:26):
Paul Korea. Now it's a K. So you got to
go with a K. You got to think of a
player on the spot. It could be current or former.
And if you say a name that has so if
it's like Chris, Chelio, so, c C, it flips the
rotation so it goes back. So like there's all these
and we used to play in junior on the bus
for hours, on these twelve hour bus rides, and you'd

(57:47):
go through all these names, and you'd always try to
get to Z because Z is working agains squirrely, you know,
zemgiz Gergensin's wasn't in the league at that time, but
like you had zadan O'chara, Ziggy Palfie. But then you
had one of my favorites, zar Le's Elapski. Yes, I
call we called that one the finisher. If you could

(58:07):
make your way to Zarle's Elabski, you were finishing nice
and he is one of the all time great mugs
on hockey dB. Zarly'sz Elabski played twenty years professional hockey
because he went over to Europe in like twenty years.
He's forty one when he retired. Amazing stuff. The Zilapper
Harry SITTERI.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
You think of my guy, tell you was playing forty six.
He's still in the HL. The fact that Zelabski is
going into his forties is probably not well documented, but
I love the fact that's the checkmate. Like in chesshi, Okay,
what's the pivotal move? If you watch Searching Brawye Fisher, Oh,
if you get the Queen of a b Charlie's Zilabsky
was the finishing move.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Tao's some favorite names. Cal Clutterbuck is an excellent one.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
What else do you can know?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Dal just said to be Rob Clinkhammer and Cal Harry
Steri is one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
I mean, Zemgiz Gigginsons is hard to is great. Also,
Ouvis Malynsky's this was another one.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I think you're just gonna say OUI croup I always OI group.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yeah, who else did I play with that had a
I mean I played with Harry SEITERI.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Tal.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I'm trying to think of some other ones. I mean,
I'm sure you could go into the you know, the Fins,
the finish and and I'm sure they'd have some Yeah,
you get.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Some goofy names one of them along the way.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
By the way, did we did we even mention? Did
we glaze over the Thomas Harley signing? Are we are?

Speaker 2 (59:34):
We see it? For?

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Listen, this is a guy broke out obviously the last
couple of seasons with the Stars.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
You're looking at what is it ten point eight a
a v ten point five eight seven jeepers man that
is a that is a A one defenseman, that is
a top pair that is like a franchise defenseman signing.
I mean maybe a year ago because now it's like,
but I think it's a little.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Rate, Like I don't want to say he's a rat.
I think he's a good player. Like the money's a
little steep in my view. When I saw it was like,
I know the CAP's going up. I never gets but
I'm like, I thought he's an eight million dollars year player.
He's like ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Oh, he carried that team last year. I think he
earned it. I think he's he is a yeah, I
mean he's worth it. I'm very high on him, you
know this. Always have been right in the Harley all day,
every day, rev the engine. He revs my engine. So
but yeah, I think it's a good deal. I listen,

(01:00:30):
who knows where the CAP's going to go after the
next two years, But it seems like revenue is going up, up,
up up up. So yeah, you know, dumb ass me
doing a podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
For you could still come back one year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I keep saying, Yeah, I look good right now too.
Body's tight, he's tight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I'm sure it is last topic here, speaking of veterans
still getting it done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Sidney Crosby seventeen hundred points.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
He reaches the miles to a family in the crowded
PPG Paints Arena, ninth all time on the scoring list,
behind his buddy Mario Lemieux. He has a chance to
pass Lemieux and Steve Eisman to get his high at seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
He turns thirty nine this summer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I don't think he's gonna get to two thousand points,
but I don't want to bet against him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I think Sid gets to over eighteen hundred points.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I still think it's one hundred points left in I
think he's still got two years still left in him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I'm going to say eighteen forty he finishes. What do
you got?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
He's at what now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Too?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
He's at seventeen hundred, So I'm gonna say a couple
more years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I should know that. Duh, seventeen hundred hover for thenwork.
I just saw the number and you just said it. Listen,
Jay two more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
He's still about a point a game player, I think, Yeah,
eighteen thirty forty, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
It's you know, Sid loves and his express that much.
He loves to play the game and wants to keep playing,
and that's like what he does. So you know, it's
a lot different than Novech Can. I feel like, is
this is his final tour and he's he's gonna go
play in the KHL after next year, he's just going
to retire. I just feel like Sid just loves the
game so much. I can't see him not coming out

(01:02:03):
of this in the next two years. So yeah, I
could see him put I mean, he's not slowing down.
I mean, this guy is unbelievable. He's so good. And
if they keep putting a team around him and keep
putting players or trying to you know that, and if
you know ownership and Dubas aren't like Major League where
they're just removing all the all the nice cities that

(01:02:26):
you have in the NHL. That's what I feel like
this team has been like for the last few years,
where they just keep taking players from him, like good players,
putting him with young kids. It's Major League all over again.
It's his Major League. He's the catcher.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Every time take a piece off, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
We just take a piece off. That's what it feels like.
Dubus is trying to do it, and this guy just refuses,
refuses to die. He does not want to die. You
cannot get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Crosby resputing if he gets to eighteen hundred, he'll be
fifth all times. I'll say he gets to eighteen fifty one,
because Gordy Howe is fourth right now. To eighteen fifty,
I think he just passes mister hockey and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Fifty one for Sid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
I'd say eighteen eighty two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Wow, Okay, the TV show eight to eighty two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Well, yeah, eighteen eighty two, the you know, the year
of the invasion, and uh, the Boston tea Party eighteen
eighty two. I don't think it was. I don't think
it was that. It's made that up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Seventeen seventeen seventy seven. Seventeen seventy six is the Declaration
of Independence. I'm gonna say the tea party was probably
seventies seventy seventeen seventy four. Some were in there. That's
my guess. Last thought here, by the way, Messi's third eighteen.
He's not gonna get to Messy exactly. You don't need
to know these things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Last thought for Halloween.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Right around the corner, we're discussing an Amazon Prime coast
to coast people can be dressing up and immediately brought
up JD's get up last year Reno nine one one
the Nu Huggers, in which your balls were essentially exposed
coast to coast in Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
What are you in jail doing for Halloween? This different?
I don't want to know. It's just give me a
sneak brief. Your Boston tea party, by the way, confirmed
seventeen seventy three.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Go ahead, I was close taking a wild get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Usaid eighteen eighty three.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I said, now, I said, seventeen seventy seven, after over
four years, Oh yeah, when I was balls deep in
that costume.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I think that was the first to me. Max
I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Who is this guy? You're doing a podcast to that guy? Friend?
Hey friend Reno nine?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
And like did he keep it on the whole time?
To go out? How cold is that studio? It looks
like he's smuggling grapes in there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I don't think it was out. They were hanging pretty
low that day. They were hanging pretty low. I'm a worker.
Uh no, listen, Uh are.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
You gonna be on the air this Halloween? Let me
ask you that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
No, I'm not. I start. I think I start back
on the fifth. But but we funny story the other day.
I was like, it was the twenty fifth. Twenty fifth,
So like two weeks ago, I'm sitting at home and
I'm part of this like group chat that somebody had
me to this this one buddy of mine. I don't

(01:05:06):
know anybody else in the group chat. There's like twenty people.
It's like a pickleball group chat. These guys are all
like pro pickleball players and they just set up days
to go play pickleball. So, you know, unbeknownst to me,
I haven't really you know, checked in, I haven't been around,
but all you know, two weeks ago, I get a
flyer in the group chat and it says, you know,

(01:05:28):
there's a Hallow come join this Halloween party at set address.
And I look at Jill and I'm like, should we
just do it? Should we just like crash it? Because
I'm like, I don't know anybody at this event, like nobody,
don't know one person that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Sounds like I see it a friendship.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Yes, yes, similar, not really but similar. So we went
as Jill posted on it on Instagram, but we went
as She went as Aunk Gladdison weapons.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Nice, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, And I and you know, thinking, now, I don't
know if I I don't know if I culturally appropriate
anything because I did Asian face. So but I didn't
do Asian face. I went as the vice principal that
gets she basically she makes him kill the essentially the

(01:06:26):
iconic scene or the guys running in the and jumps
on the girl and tries to kill her. That's who
I went as with the eyeballs bulged out and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
So I went that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah, so I went as that, But then I realized
that it was an Asian actor. So I was like,
did I do something wrong? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
This part's probably getting edited, is it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I'm more like a question like is that are we are?
We said? In today's world? Don't get uncomfortable. I'm I'm
admitting to it. I'm like, did I sure you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Being exposed by you're getting in front of it. It's
not like it's a movie, that's it. Yeah, well it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
A character in movie. I'm not I'm playing the guy
that was. Yeah, I'm not. You know, so that that's
the question. Like I didn't. There wasn't any altering of
my It's it was me wearing the clothes essentially of
that actor and portraying him in essence.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I think people know your wife's a Thespian, they know
that you're getting a characterize.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
But that you know, like where is the line drawn?
Like you know, that's my question as we continue and
we'll see if this makes it. But you know you
could you could? You can't do blackface, that's that's no. No,
or like you can't dress. I'm not going to go
on a turban or anything and and or you know
what I mean, or put on a put on a
play like a anyway, but like playing a sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
That's why I don't want to jump to help, because
you can playing like I go what like where you
going with this?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I'm not gonna sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
I'm just he's an Asian, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
An Asian actor, but I'm not playing an Asian actor,
playing essentially the guy that was killed. And I'm playing
Benedict Wong. That's who I'm playing. He's the actor of
the movie is Benedict Wang, and I'm playing him. But
I didn't even realize it. Looked at my wife and
I'm like, is this bad?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I said, what did you do for Halloween? I dressed
up as Benedict Wong?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Speaking of great names, move over, Benedict Cumberbatch.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We have we have a new Benedict on the block,
Benedict Carld, Benedict Cumberbatch, and he's making his impact.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
You know, I listen, I think I'm I think I'm
in the clear. The thing is is that nobody the
best part about it so anyways, getting back to it,
So we walk into this party and and we don't
know anybody, and this guy's house is like head to
toe it's like a haunted house. Open bar, open, you know,

(01:09:03):
there's food every wear, like amazing food. And we end
up like there's a glow in the dark pickleball court,
and we just basically walk in and like we own
the place, Asian appropriation and all. And I just we
just we just had a great night. And we ended
up meeting the owner of the house, and we ended

(01:09:25):
up having all these weird connections of knowing all these
different people in the city. So it was pretty funny.
We're the only people that will crash the Halloween party
if you invite us and potentially get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I thought Jill's costume is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I mean, weapons is going to get some Oscar buss
Amy Madigan might win an Academy award. I mean that
that's a good costume of her. You was Benedict Wang,
not bad, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Know what we said. I was like, listen, Hunt, I've
kind of led the dance for the last few years.
I'm like her the star.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, I like that's good of you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Dangle Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Anyway, Brian Barard was the star here an angel inscriptive
thanks once again to him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Thanks for checking us out. We'll be back next week,
we hope. Thanks so much for checking us out. NHL

(01:10:22):
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