Chris Russo has some opinions: A potential Cup Final rematch, USA wins gold and front-office shakeups.

Jason Demers and Adnan Virk are ready for a potential Stanley Cup Final rematch as the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers roll. Then Chris "Mad Dog" Russo stops by to talk NHL playoffs, New York Knicks and his favorite movies. Finally, the guys go through some big announcements this week from the Maple Leafs, Islanders and Blackhawks.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Today hear an NHL and scriptor Christopher mad Dog Russo
talking everything but hockey. But don't worry, we have the
hockey covered for you as the stars and the oilers
and the Banther just keep on roaring. Plus the USA
winning goal for the first time in ninety two years.
Props at TGE Thompson and Company. This is going to
be a strong episode of NHL Unscripted. We start JD.
I remember years ago I worked at ESPN. This guy

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said to me, I know you're Canadian, may not know
these things. Like huh, he goes, just make sure you
don't say happy Memorial Day.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm like, why is that?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
He goes, Well, and today when we memorialize the dead
here in America, I'm like, I understand.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's like, go to Canadians, do I go?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
We just say happy May two for I go to
Victoria Day weekend for us, so salute to the Queen.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
And salute all those fallen soldiers out there. Happy Memorial
Day weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think is okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
And I still to this day, I think it. John
al rectually did a bit people. How many broadcasters gold
and Grey? Happy Memorial Day?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Not the right thing to say.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, and and and that queen, that absolute troll's injecting
our people to years of that anyway, right, yeah, hey
for listen, for everyone that sacrificed himself in the United States,
this is what this day is for. And without them,
I don't know where the US would be here or

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most of the countries so in North America.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So yeah, and it's the unofficial start of summer for
so many people. It's been a little bit chilly here
on the East Coast, but today so we had awful.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's been bad.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I want to start the podcast showing just what influenced
h D has had to be.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So I'm going to use a sentence using all of
his expressions.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
So so far this Star's oilers, I mean, the oilers
have been absolutely electric as they piss Pump six by
Dallas and the Stars are absolute dog water.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So Dallas better take us see Allison get hard? Am
I right?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That was wow?

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Clip that Wow? Now I know of just how dumb
I sound all the time. I love to saying piss pumping.
That's a piss pump man. You know, I gotta ask
you guys too. If you know watching that game and
you know Dallas led play for a lot of that game,
and you know they number one, you have to go

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to Stuart Skinner. Like, Stuart Skinner has been the best
goalie in this series, and he's the greatest goalie alive
right now. I mean, ever since he came back from
being polled, he's been I mean, he's been lights out.
He's been electric. He's been piss pumping teams and turning
them into dogwater. I just think he's been so common

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the net, and they've played so well in front of him.
But there's just there's so many depth pieces on Edmonton
right now that are just stepping up and they're they're
elevating their game. You know, you look at Zach Hymans.
Zach Hyman's got over one hundred hits in the playoffs.
He's fifty nine in the regular season. He's got over
one hundred in the playoffs. He's an absolute beast. He's
killing guys at Nugent Hopkins is all this series against

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all these multipoint games. Every game, I mean, Evan Bouchard
is is you know, rewriting history as a.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Defensive By the way, that was a great goal.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, Evan Bouchard is behind one person points per game,
you know, with the minimum I think it's a twenty
games played in the playoffs, he's he's behind Bobby orr
in the most points per game on average, wow, at
like one point one five. So it's like all these
guys are doing these crazy things.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
And you look at.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Dallas to the wyat Johnston's minus sixteen worse than the playoffs.
You look at Jason Robertson one goal in nine games.
I don't even know if you want to call that
a goal. That just he didn't even know he scored it.
You look at Mason Marchman. Mason Marchman has been trying,
he's been playing physical, but not enough. Matt Tewshane one
goal in sixty games, not enough. You know, Tyler Second
had that one game in game one. But it's just

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the depth is just out playing Dallas. And you know,
then you look at the you look at the top guys,
Miko Randons went to sleep and they lose rupe hints,
which I think that slash is a turning point in
that series.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
And you know, all these things all these things.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Kind of lead to you ask the question why, and
then you know, why, why are these guys playing with
so much confidence? And it just isn't doesn't seem like
it's falling the right way for Dallas, and they're getting
opportunities and they're out shooting. Skinner looks amazing, he looks
comfortable and net you know, and I look to like
Game one of Lean Bischel turtling at the end of

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that game on Corey Perry and I say, there's moments
of intimidation in a playoff series. And as you're going
through the playoffs, and if you can intimidate a team,
you know, not every guy is going to be intimidated,
they're going to play, but there's some guys that'll wilt.
And you know, I was just texting with Brian Boyle
and I was like, you know, I look at like

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the you know, we'll get to the Florida series, but
I look at the Florida series as well, like they're
just bullying Carolina. And now not to say that Carolina
is not getting opportunities and not playing. You know, they're pushing,
but there's just something missing. And it's the same thing
in this Dallas series right now. Now, I still think
it's going to be a long series, but they need
to get that respect back. And I think Edmonton is
zero respect for Dallas and they're not scared of him

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at all. And it all starts in that game one.
When you win that game leem Bischell's turtling to Corey
parrots that are getting up. He's six seven, two hundred
and ninety pounds. However, he is big old Swiss boy.
He's just got a great at least fight if you lose.
You know, and I say this Thermo space of I
was in the toughest guy I fought. I got my
ass kicked a lot, but you know, every guy I

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fought was like a borderline heavyweight. And I just said,
you know what, I'm gonna lose, but I'm not going
to back down, because that's the biggest thing. You back
down and then you give them the mental edge. And
that's what I think Edmonton has right now. They have
the mental edge, and they're just the last two games,
even though they get out played at times, they're just
in it more mentally, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, you had this sweet the other day, which makes
a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Now why Johnson and Jason Robertson will decide the Dallas
Stars make the files of a chance in Stanley Cup.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's in. There's somewhere. They just need to find it
and fast.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And to your point, they haven't, so I know people
don't want to single guys out. Jimmy Ben you could
throw in there as well. One goal in sixty games.
I mean it's it's been a deplorable effort all around,
and clearly they're not gonna win the series.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
They will turn around.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, their fourth line has been was their best line
last game. Colin Blackwell and Sam Steele been been fantastic
and then it was owen Bach. But I mean, those
two guys have been their two best players. But if
you look at him, their dogs on a ball. They're
just hunted pucks. And and maybe it's just that Edmonton's
that much better, and it's we're gonna see an Edmonton

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Florida rematch once again, and Edmonton's just deeper.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Ch your point with the Florida Panthers, they just keep
on roaring. Hurricanes head coach Rob Brindamore mixes things up.
Let's go with coach chet Cooff over Freddie Anderson, who
you had pointed out Frediy Anderson has been one of
the great stories of this playoffs so far.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But instead let's give him a hook, see what happens.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
And instead it was close after forty and then the
Panthers explode five unanswered goals.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
They're now three.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
All the series is a wrap, Sam Ryder out of
the lineup didn't matter again, you just mentioned the depth
of the depth of Florida. Five goals or first nine
shots the third bark off the captain two goals and
assist plus four rating. Callen has now lost fifteen straight
conference final games. As you said on NHL Tonight, I'm
running out of answers because that's a rock Brindmore sad
as well.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
They get no idea how to fix this for Carolina.
Just an absolute mess.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Bullied once again.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
You know we turnovers won, but you know you look
at these moments in this series and they're bullied because
all these turnovers are because the d are number one.
They're making soft plays in the middle, but everything seems rushed.
They're always like they're kind of wincing because you're getting
hit after the whistle. There's always a cross check, there's
always somebody in your face, and it wears on you

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if you don't push back, and you just allow that
and you take that abuse, you take that abuse, You
take that abuse mentally. It's not only gonna mess with
you and your game, it's gonna mess with the fabric
of the team. And you look at these guys and
you know not to not to, you know, shit on anybody.
But it's like Sebastianajo hits Sam reinhard in that game,

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knocks them out. Yes, it's a borderline dirty hit. I
don't love it. Florida is waiting for that, They're using
that as bolton board material. They're going in there, and
it's like Carolina is like waiting all game for the response.
They're like, they're probably gonna come and they're probably gonna
start hitting us because of this hit, and they're gonna
be mad. And of course, what do you think happens

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as soon as Florida gets a lead. Matthew Chuck as
a captain, should goes after a hoo chase himround the ice.
And the biggest issue when I knew this series was
a rap is not one person winning defended Sebastianaho, not one,
not a one went in there. You're down four to
one in the series, going two hand him in the wrist,
break his wrists.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Not this.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I'm not advocating for injuries. Yep, do your thing, but like,
go protect your own. He's assaulting your teammate. Go back
and fight about.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
By the way, Chuck and the penalty box be like, hey,
I remember, like exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
And then and then Sam Bennett goes and krass check Spechnikov.
That's another one of your top players. You're not showing
any respect again. You're not getting any respect from Florida.
You gotta go get it. I don't care. You're down
three nothing, you're down whatever, whatever what five to one,
six one, and they're still trying to Carolina's trying to
score and Florida's trying to hit him. At six to one,
I'm like, you're down three nother You're not gonna come

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back with two minutes left. You're not gonna score five goals.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
You can't sell Bobrovsky. Go run Bobrovsky. Make it a Donnybrook,
make it make it a full on five on five
bench clearing brawl. Come on, have a little heart, like Jesus,
like get pissed off, Like it's the same thing I
have with with like and I love Austin Matthews, but
I'm like, where is your breaking point?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I just want to know a breaking point?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I love.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
I don't love seeing you know, dirty, when somebody's like premeditated,
it's a dirty play. But if you have a little
bit of like frustration and it boils over and you snap,
like I like to see that from a player, show
me like that you can lose it like a little
bit that like you've had enough, Like I've had enough.
You guys have lost sixteen straight. Not to say that
the same team has been part of that, but somebody

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has to get up in the room and say, like,
there's no puck on the ice anymore, there's no puck.
We're gonna get respect back if they beat us up
once again. If they beat us up, you're not tough. Hey,
it's fine, but at least you're going into the fight.
You're going into the fight, and I know that I
can trust you when I'm sitting next to you. If
I know you're gonna wilt under pressure, I mean, what's
what's the point?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Just let him win?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
The four Game four, fit game four, and let's get
out of here because no one wants to see more
of this goddamn series. It's just Enough's enough. Go back
to the one eight please, yeah right, I'm sick of it.
This would have been a first round matchup. If this
went to one eight, this would have been a first
round matchup.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And your point about playing a little bully ball in
honor of Bob Bender, It's like, if you're gonna lose
the battlet least win the war, right. I know he
doesn't play bullyball. I'm just like, if they were to
all right, I want to get to the leafs.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
The Shannon play is finally done. Eleven years as the president.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Keith Pelly, who's now the MLSC president, Cool Boston TSM
back when I was a young pup said I'm not
looking to replace Brendan. I'm looking at we're closer with
Brad that Cmtree living, and we're close with Craig coach Barubi.
So it's it's Tree and Chief now running the show
and sh had ahnd Gun. And by the way, what
I wanted to really hit on with you specifically is
your tweet again when Pelly said that he really liked

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the effort from the fans in the first round, and
your response was, you're welcome to the NHL and to
the Leaf specifically because they, as you pointed out, the
lower bowl is an absolute moratorium. And then now this
exact quote is the Leaf's upper manage will spend in
the off season studying and looking at ways to improve
their homeless advantage by getting fans more engaged.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
We did it first, We did it. That's how you
enact change. You push, you push, and I'm gonna take
full credit, not to say that anybody else was saying,
I'm taking full credit for the Leafs. Finally, and I
listened to that press conference at the night, I think
I was on NHL now, and I'm just like, yes, yes,
the emphatic add nan, yes, yes, I did it, because

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he's like he's like, yeah, there's been some complaints about
the lower ball. It's like, yeah, the sure has. Goddamn Church, it.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Would have been unbelievable, shouted you out, just so, like
I know that certain people in media made commence on
Jason to Mercer's critical you be come God, can you.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Imagine he's like Jason ms we really respect his opinion.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
You know, speaking of the Leafs.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
You know, when you look at the way this this
series is unfolded, are they that far from winning a cup?
When you look at Carolina? Is the Metropolitan Division the
worst division hockey?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Is my question?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
This is where it's tricky because there was talent.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I'm gonna bring you into this one too. Is Metropolitan
the worst division hockey?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well? I want your opinion.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
My first it was gonna be in the leaguest how
far away there?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Because the one thought was, well, they took the Panthers
to seven of the defending cup champions. My thought was, no,
you got piss pumped in both games at home. You're
farther away from the Stanley Cup final than you realize.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
So yeah, don't think they're close.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Go ahead, tell the Metro Sexual Division as I like
to call it, No, it's uh, it's I mean, it's
super weak. I think listen, you look at the division.
Who are the top three? Who are the top three
teams in the division? Rangers, Devils, Well that's yeah, the
bottom is brutal, and then even the top what Caps, Hurricanes,
Devils were the top three front and those are the

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teams and now we look back on how the playoffs
have played out, and they kind of.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Have gone away with a whimper.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Really, So yeah, I think that at one point maybe
you could make the case that the Pacific was the weakest,
even though obviously the teams at the top of the
division were among the elites in the league. But yeah,
this this, you know, I think I wouldn't be surprised
like this, if the if the if it kind of
flipped a little bit next season and you saw, you know,
the Rangers and the Blue Jackets kind of well they

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were technically in the middle of the division, but I
could see things kind of moving around next in the
standings in the Metro just because it's it's not very stable,
it's not very strong in that division.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, i mean you look at like, what do you
feel if you're Washington, you just got beaten five and
it's getting dog walked, so your way, you're you're really
far you know, And then you look like if I'm
the Montreal Canadians, I'm like, man, we're not that far off,
Like honestly, like we're you know, we could easily made
that a seven game series against Washington. So I'm just

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like looking around and it's it's gonna be interesting what
certain teams like if I'm it's a copycat league. But
if you're looking around and you're watching out jams, watching
the playoffs, and they're like, eh, but I think the
biggest mistake Toronto could make to your point, is being like,
let's run it back one more time. I think we
could do it. I think we could do it this time. Well,
I think the Car four I could do it. Yeah,
Marner's gone, he's ninety nine Friedman just I think tweeted

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he's ninety nine percent gone. Do you think Tavares is gone?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Because here's my thought, were goee, he loves playing it.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Sol'm like, no, I got that. But this whole hometown
discount thing. Then Stamcoast gets four years thirty two million,
Like okay, I'm gonna go to Nashville like I love
the lighting, but whatever. So I'm like, don't don't just
count on Johnny TV Like yeah, I'll take four for
five in a year. I'm like, no, I really want
good year. I'm gonna get my money and I'd like
to stay in Toronto.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well here's the thing that I if I'm if I'm
tree living I sit down John Taveres, and I said,
and I show him the picture of him with his
Toronto Mayple leafs bet when he was ten years old
or whatever that he tweeted about, And I said.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
This is your favorite team? Yeah, just your favorite team?
Did you they team? They just to run on me
his team.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, you're gonna take You're gonna take four million, and
you're gonna shut the hell up and show it saying
this is really six this is really your favorite team. No,
but this is the decision for John Taveries. You made
enough in your career. You made enough.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Now you go. We need to win.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
So you either want to win and be a Toronto
Maple and that's just that's just moneyball. That's what you
gotta do. And if you don't, well you can go
your own way.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
There you go. Tell.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
My hunch is Marner's gone. T VARs has gone too.
I think only two of the four come back. I
don't like Johnny t takes that much of a cute.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm pretty sure Marner's gone.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
He's gonna get monster offers from at least half a
dozen teams in the league.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He's gonna go and win seven years one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
He's gonna go and win.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Yeah, he's he's going to La or Vegas, or he's
gonna go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yeah, hang out with Biber in La or Vegas. Sounds
like a good times.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
She goes to Florida. Oh my god, that's not fair. Hey,
that's just not fair.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
I mean as far as Tavares, you know, I just
first they take the sea away from him, and now
they're going to try and low ball them on At
one point, does this guy just say, you know what,
I love playing in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
This is very important to me. My family likes here.
But enough is enough and.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
He could be good on He could be a really
good player on some really good teams.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
He could go to the Panthers, wh I couldn't John Tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, he's a good he's a good third line center.
I think now, like really solid. I just don't think
you're gonna bring him in to be a two C so,
you know, don't pay him two C money. I just
think on a really good team like yeah, on An,
I could see like a Utah. Maybe they're looking for
a centerman that I don't know where they're gonna have
to overpay somebody. And I know there's been links of
like Bennett and Marner going there as well. I heard

(16:47):
they're gonna offer They're going to offer a lot of
money to those two guys.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That'd be incredible.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
He goes from the leaves to the mammoth like, wow, guy,
chase that money.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
One more thought. We're here. The Islanders make a big
move at the top.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Pull NHL player McGill University grad Matthew darks my brother,
so kill McGill.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's just for him.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Matthew darts with the team's GM and executive A vice
president Jarsh Most recently, Sure was director of Hockey Operation
of the Tampa Bay Lightning since twenty nineteen. While at McGill.
I love this nugget from tell he won the Doctor
Randy Greg Award, the top student athlete in the country.
I love that smart guy part of cup when the
organization played for the Habs against coach Patrick Waugh.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
By the way, Tallas also McGill. Guy kill McGill times two.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Go to mcgil baby.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
One thing of Americans they always know mcguil. They're like, oh,
where you go to school, Miguel, Like, how do you
know that? Yes, that's the one school Americans stomach.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
McGill is an outstanding institution. No, I did not thoughts
on Matthew Darts and the isles.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Listen, I think it's time will tell you everything I've
heard and you know talking we talked to like we
broke the story with Pagnonta, and I think he's a
very intelligent guy and understands the game. And again, another
Tampa Bay Lightning product. These guys are just a feeder
system for for her gms and coaching roles. You look
at Jeff Blaschell going to Chicago, I mean another Tampa

(18:04):
Bay Lightning guys. You just need to go work under
John Cooper at Breezebaw and you you have an opportunity somewhere.
So I think it's I think it's good. I think listen,
you get the first pick, you have a lot of
you know, this is like you're not coming in. He
doesn't get to weigh himself into this, Like you're you
got to make a you know, franchise altering decision in

(18:25):
the next month, and then you have to decide which
direction you want to go. And I think they're going
to retool. I don't think it's going to be a
full rebuild. I think with this pick you can really
do some damage, whether you trade down and you can
maybe trade down a little bit and pick up Hagen's
or you can grab Schaeffer or Misa in the top position.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
So but I think there's a lot to do.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
There's a lot of word they have a lot of
shitty contracts, so we got to see what they can't
move around. But you know, my the most interesting I'm
gonna see is what he does with the Patrick Wahan
and and what he.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Make the GM.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
That's whatever the thought was. But I feel like teams
are You're starting to see teams, you know, Pagnon was
talking about teams going away from the president role. You know,
like the GM can handle it all, and they're looking
for season guys. So I don't know if Patty Wows
really be the guy that would put up in that position.
I just want to see how he what he does
with the you know, bringing in any more assistance or

(19:22):
it's just going to be an interesting It's going to
be very interesting to see what he does. But it's
you know, nonetheless, it is a monumental month and a
half that he's gonna have to go through.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
He's going to age.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
He's going to age twenty years in the next month.
Because Islanders fans are they're sick and tired. Yeah, they
need something, and you get that first pick. You gotta
do something with it. You gotta do something big with it.
You can't, you can't fumble the bag. As the young
kids say.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
You're right, optimism right now high what you could do
with a number one pick? We come back one guy
who's always raring to go. That's right, Christopher mad Doc
Russell the Holloway his thoughts not only on the Four
Nations months later, are still upset about the premeditated fight.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
You can Yeah, it was a tough take, another tough take.
I had to leave after d left.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
He was still offended by the take, but that means
bad Dog and I were still talking. Nick's talking Mets
and Juan Soto talking movies and how much he loves
a complete unknown and his obsession with timoth Tay Shallowy,
and Bob Dylan.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
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First take out at ESPN, eh.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That everybody, Christopher, mad Dog, Rusto Doggy.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
It's great to see you again, my man.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
How are there guys? Good to be on. Oh, it
is a pleasure. How are we doing? Okay?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Thanks good, We're doing great, Chris, thank you so much
for coming on. But before I go, I gotta ask
one question here. Yes, during the Four Nations you came
after US Canadians fighting, and the US Canada rivalry had
some poignant things to say, and I was just saying.
I just wanted to say, why are you coming for my.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Sport like that?

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Why are you coming for my sport like that? Now
that was in February, Maybe I would have changed my
approach if I knew about those tariffs at the time. Hey,
we needed February on February twentieth whenever that was. I didn't.
I thought that fight early was was was too much programmed.
It was not organic. So that's what bothered me about that.

(21:38):
It's almost like they decided after nine seconds have a
fight really Game one. But I did root for Canada,
so I was happy that McDavid scored in the in
the last game of that series. And everybody made such
a big deal about the US winning Game one, as
it turns out and meant nothing because in the game
that they had to win, they didn't in Boston on Thursday.

(21:58):
But that was a very very very successful tournament. We
all know how great that was. You know, you got
to have it in the non Olympic years, and good
for Canada. So from that standpoint, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
But I I did think, to be fair, Jay, I
did think it was a little fake the fights before
the first game out in Montreal I work with.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I worked with Stu Grimson, one of the toughest guys
in HL history, and I once I once mentioned to
him the pre determined fights and he grabbed me almost
on air and threw me, threw me over the table.
But my follow up to that is, you got to
think that this Hockey Playoffs is a little bit better
than the NBA Playoffs, no little bit.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
What you don't like about the Hockey Playoffs right now
is the Florida Carolina series is a rough series. Uh,
I know, that's a herd. It's it's a it's that's
that's a hard series. They played very much alike and
they're not renowned teams. I think he needed the Leafs
and the Leafs in there in the absolute worst way.
I've always said that the hockey playoffs, earl are so

(23:02):
good because anybody he could win. The hot goalies, like
the hot pitcher in baseball, always have some upsets. I mean,
it's very very good early and those opening rounds with
tremendous Winnipeg Saint Louis the seventh game on top of
what we saw with Dallas and Colorado win a seventh game.
Although the seating idea is stupid. Why Colorado when Dallas

(23:23):
playing the first round every year? Kings and Edmonton is
beyond dumb. One to eight both ways with the Seeds.
But regardless, the hockey usually is wonderful early and maybe
not quite as good as we go on go on,
because you might have a matchup or two that you
don't love. Appy post with this Florida Tampa thing, with

(23:45):
this Florida Carolina thing. While in the NBA, the four
best teams usually advance the NBA. You know, Oklahoma City
is the best team in the West, they advance. Obviously,
Minnesota has been very good. Last year conference final, they advance.
You know, the Knicks Corta Celtic team a little bit leaguered,
but we all knew the Knicks were good. We all
knew Indiana was good. You're gonna get always four good

(24:06):
teams at the end of the day in the NBA,
because the better team always wins in the NBA. In
the NHL, the better team doesn't always advance. Hot goalie,
bounce to the puck, whatever it might be. So you
might have a match up there at the end that's
not that attractive. Carolina Edmonton for a Stanley Cup final.
And in the NBA, you're gonna get Lakers, Celtics, you're

(24:27):
gonna get the Sixers, Celtics in a semi final, you're
gonna get Golden State, Cleveland, Lebron against the better players.
Use the advance not always the case in the NHL.
So I don't love the Florida Carolina series. The Edmonton
Dalla series should be very very good, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right, g D, He's gonna bounce we'll take over.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Since you mentioned the Knicks, I mean, this has been
an unbelievable story, Doggie right now, what the Knicks are
doing and Brunts is obviously carrying this team.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Hopefully they can get it done against the Pacers. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And you really have captured the imagination of all these
New Yorkers right now because what the Knicks are doing.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
But you were around in ninety four, of course you
might talk with the Rangers.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Can you draw any parallels with the Knicks now the
Rangers back then and tell me what that experience was
like when the Rangers finally won the Cup on broad Well.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
I think the Knicks are a bigger story now than
they were then because the Knicks and ninety four were
overwhelmed by the Rangers. The Rangers hadn't won in fifty
four years, Messia the comeback against the Devils, they won
the President's Trophies, so they had a lot of pressure
on them and they were the NHL favorites when that
postseason began. You know, they beat Washington and the Islanders.

(25:27):
I think they beat the Islanders first. They beat the
Andanders and they beat Washington. They were eight and one
against those two teams. So the Rangers were the bigger
New York story at the time. I'm not trying to
downplay the Knicks, but it wasn't quite the same place
Jordan had quit, So it was a situation where you know,
you weren't going through Jordan to win a championship because
that was the ninety four was the year, that first

(25:49):
year he tried to baseball. So in ninety three ninety
four it was about the Rangers more than it was
about the Knicks. I'm not saying the Knicks did not
have their issues and it was not fun with the Knicks.
We covered both, but it was more Rangers. This year,
obviously it's all Nicks because it's a surprise. They haven't
been nobody foot. They beat the Celtics, they haven't been
in an NBA Conference final in twenty five years, and

(26:13):
it's a situation where you know people are really into it.
Bruntson's fun, big crowds at the garden. So and they
beat Boston, which is a big factor. So this year
it's much more about in New York. The Knicks. No
Rangers in the playoffs, which obviously plays into it, but
it's even if they were in it's about the Knicks.
Ninety three, ninety four, it was really much more about

(26:36):
the Rangers, and the Rangers paid it off by winning
the Stanley Cup. Knicks of course, News Game seven Houston.
So this is much more of a Knick situation Nick
story in New York right now than it is a
Rangers story. I think the Nick fans all out of
a little too carried away, you know, steat of Brenning here,
you know, after win eight games. I mean they're only
halfway through. You got eight more wins to get. So

(26:56):
I think the Knick fan is a little carried away
right now with their enthusiasm. I know they haven't been
in this step in a long time, but they still
got two steps to go. And I don't know why
you're doing handstands before they got to a even an
NBA final. But the Nixt are the bigger story, Adnan,
right now. The next are the much bigger story in
New York, no question about it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
All Right, Let's talk movies, my friend, you and I
both love movies, and I know you love to complete
unkown the Bob Dylan biopick. Timothy Shallowy did a phenomenal job.
I just watched the sixty minute story in him, he
seems like a great.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Can everyone's really very good.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
He's at those Knicks games.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
By the way, now, I'm not gonna quibble about the way,
which I know you were so passionate about.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I love to know where the brutalist of substance.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
The better question is this, as my friend Dan LeBatard
said to you, when you used your fame and fortune
to go be at the premiere for a complete and numiverseas,
how much of it did you think in yourself? Bob Dylan,
famous recluse who despised ananimity and fame seeking, how displeased
would he be with Matt Dog Russo for you using
your fame to go beat Shaloman.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know how Dylan
would have handled that. You're right, how do think Bob
Dinnan's bouncing around and thinking of Chris Russo? Although Bob
Dylan used to go to Celtic Nick games at the Garden,
did you know that in the media and he quietly
in a front row, he'd scream about hibbing because him
and Michale from the same town. So from that perspective,
I thought that I mean that surprised me that he

(28:14):
would do that, but he went to go see I
don't know if it was every time the Celtics came in,
but there was a lot of Dylan sightings at the
garden because of Hbbing. You know, the Chala May thing.
That was really kind of very organic. That's why people
got into it because I'd been screaming about complete unknown
since essentially last summer when I knew the movie was
going to be released on Christmas Day, and then they

(28:35):
didn't have the decency to invite me to the premiere,
which annoyed me, and I used that as they mad about,
which was perfect. And then Charlamey got on top of it.
So from that standpoint, that is the that was the
organic aspect of it. Give Challa May ret it. He
did a great job. When we visited him in London,
we had about ten minutes with him, my daughter and I.

(28:57):
That was the fourth time I had seen the movie.
Crowd loved it at the National Theater there in London.
They gave me a choice to go on a three
spot Paris and Rome or London. I took the first
one London. They did a Q and a early on
the set of the before the movie was shown. I
thought Edmund Norton did a terrible job, by the way.
I mean, oh, I did a terrible jo I said

(29:19):
that on the air. I mean, he just was so disengaged, Eddie,
come on, give give the interviewer a little something for
Christ's sake. He was terrible, terrible on the stage. I
was really down on him for that, but I mean
about him on his I you know, fourth time, I
wish I was the first time I had seen it,
not the fourth time I had seen it. But I
didn't know. If I knew that that was going to

(29:40):
be theirs, I was going to be invited to that
back on Christmas, I wouldn't have even seen it until
Chris until January fourteenth. But you know, Dylan would have
been probably a little perplexed of why I was so
interested in nineteen But a lot of it just wasn't
I loved the music. I loved the I love the
way the music is presented. That's a good part of it.
But I also like nineteen sixty one. A lot of

(30:02):
a lot of it is the idea, like mad you know,
a lot of it is is the time period. I
like that time period a I was born. I can
imagine what it was like for my father because I
was two in nineteen sixty one. So a lot of
it has to do with that because of New York
City and that and that era. But a lot of
it has to do with the folk you know, the

(30:23):
folk genre. I know on Greenwich, you know, and I've
had Roger mcguinna on and everything else. A lot of
it has to do with something along those lines too.
So basically hit both chords. For me, had nine, which
is tremendous, and then I had to pay off there
in England, which is great.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Movie's always a passionate personal vocation, as you said, so
it's cool little the story behind it. Bad Lieutenant comes
out in nineteen ninety two Able Faras film Dark Cedy,
Underworld Harvey Kai Tel and one scene pulls over a
couple of teenage girls and it's I don't want to
get a detail what happens, but there's a lot of
X rated excreamist content. Martin Scor says he loves the film.
He called Bad Lieutenant, Well, the best film is the nineties, really,

(30:58):
but when I asked you about it, you were surprised
you did not know what the content was gonna be
in this movie. For those haven't seen it, the first
voice the movie is Christopher Matt doc Russo because I
tell it's such a depraved cop. He roots against the Mets,
he gambles against him, and it's your voice doing talk radio.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Tell me how you got the gig?

Speaker 6 (31:14):
That was the eighty eight That was the He did
a spinoff on the eighty eight postseason with the Mens
and the Dodgers. Yeah, I did. They needed a host
to sort of, as you said, basically be the guy
who kind of does some things in the movie, to
be the soundtrack. Not that in the soundtrack, but I'm
on there two or three times. And we got Bruce

(31:34):
Murray in there too, because Bruce played the caller. I
was at fan I don't know where Bruce was. He
was in DC at the time. I went to a
New York studio, you know, in the morning, and I
may have gone there a couple of different times. And
I did this soundtrack and then I went to go
see the movie. And it is weird that I am
the first voice that you heard, you know, Kit tell

(31:56):
as you said, has got the radio on the dashboard
he's a huge driving around. He's a huge sports sports fan.
I did not know exactly what the movies was about
before I did it. It wasn't like I examined the
script or knew what the theme was going to be.
Would it have changed my involvement? It probably wouldn't have.
You know, I wasn't married then, no children then maybe

(32:19):
today it would not then, and I was. I was
floored when I went, when I went to go see
it to hear my first of I heard to hear
my voice the first up, So it did take me
it back. They did a big it was probably two
years ago. There was a story somewhere where they did
a big They did a big recapturing the film and

(32:43):
the author. I can find it. It was on internet somewhere.
The author did a very good job of talking about
the movie and me because it was the first take,
and they did a very good job about how weird
it is that the guy that is doing it is
the guy you've see now. So there was a lot
of things that were interesting, But I did not know
what the movie was about them and answer the question,
and I did not know what the movie was about

(33:04):
before they presented it to me. I was probably as
shocked as you were when I went there. And his
funny thing is, I did not find it. Like you
and I have different movie tastes. You know, I'm a
place in the sun guy, you are not. But I
did not. I did not find a movie very entertaining.
I'll tell you one thing that I did that you
get into, though, and I think you'd enjoy it. On

(33:26):
when I was in the Caribbean in March, I took
I read six books or five books. One of them
I read was the biography from twenty twenty one by
Mark Harris on Mike Nichols.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Incredible. I read it amazing.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
And I put Harris on for an hour middle of March.
When I got back. He's been on before. He wrote
another movie about the part the big movies in the sixties,
you know, Bonnie and Clyde and Heat of the Night
and everything else, and so he had been on before
I put him on, and he was great. And that
book is a tremendous book. Tremendous book. Another great book

(34:03):
that you would like is the biography on Robert Mitcham.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I love that book. Are you kidding, Lee, Server, babe?
I don't care one of my favorite books.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Great book. And Lee Server also did a book on
Ava Gardner Gardner Baby, that's a great book.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's a great read my life.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah, he I had him on because he also wrote
the book about the mafia guy Johnny whatever his name is,
I forget his name, nineteen seventy six where they found
in an oil bind and the freaking keep as Caine
chopped up wearing a go Uh. But the the movie
with he did, the Mitchen book and the Gardener book

(34:43):
and the Aver Gardner book is good too. I don't
know if you've read.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
That my last recommends, but I haven't read it.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
But he said this was a very good book. I
had him on. He was great, Uh, Server, But Mitcham
is very interesting. So I love the old biographies of
all the great movie stars. And of course the great
movie that the great book did a Scott Berg diet
on Samuel Goldwyn. That's a good movie, a very good book.
Have you read that about the great director, a great

(35:08):
film producer. He's Scott Berg. You'd like that too.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm gonna write that one, Dougs. I've seen I've read
the other two books, but that's gonna be fantastic. The
Mike Nichols Book're Right because a fascinating career was a
great comedy criy right, Elena May and Nichols obviously for
years to graduate. The one thing I didn't like about
Mike Nichols because I love Gary Shandling at Larry Sanders
show of the book.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
He didn't like Shandling was awful. Yeah, yeah, he was
down on Shandling and he loved Metow Streep and everything else.
That is a you know, that is an excellent book.
I did try to get Paccino on regarding his memoir,
which is a pretty good memoir. I wasn't able to
do that, and I did do Ben Mankowitz when Hackman died.

(35:50):
When Hackman died, I did that. And then I on
purpose I saw two movies that I wasn't familiar with
with Hackman that I did Narrow Margin.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Okay, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
It's about a da in La in La who's got
to go up to Canada to get a star witness
for a crime that she saw. And then the other
movie that he did was very good with Night Moves,
Yes seven, where he's an ex football player and in
that movie is what's her name? Who played in Working Girl?

(36:26):
I forget Melanie Griffith. She plays a sixteen year old
and he's got Hackman. He's got to go to Florida
to track her down because he's hired by her movie
star mother to find her. She disappears on some boat.
That's a good movie. So I saw those two Hackman
movies on purpose after he died, So I find my

(36:47):
way to get into the movie realm. I really do well.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And Ben Meg which is an all time great guy,
mean Hollywood loyalty. Obviously, here's a you know, grandfather co
wrote Citizens.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Yeah. If he's a good guy, and he came on
the day after he died for about a half hour,
let the show.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, that's all to make a huge obviously with Turner
classic movies, movies is great. I don't want to keep
you too long, Dog, you gotta go to your show.
I want to say a couple of baseball's and wan't
let you out of here. You're giants right now, second,
right now in the National League West has been a
great story. I worked to John Stash every years ago
to ESPN. I say, I'm a huge fan of Dog.
What he got from me he goes, Matt dog Russo,
he goes, you only all talk with our fandom.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
He goes, he changed once they won, and once they get.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I did I got bored, corrector, he said.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
But prior to that, I was at a bar with that.
He goes, he'd be fucking on the table, yelling screen.
He goes, you will not top his passion and his
fandom at its apex for the Giants. I'm just curious
your thoughts on the Giants now having a great season.
I know it's changed over time, but at a time
it was the most important in your life.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Was the San Francisco Giants, right? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:44):
It sure was really through twenty twelve, that second championship,
and then I kind of lost it. I've seen a
Giants little bit, you know. They remind me a little
bit of the team a few years ago that one
one hundred and seven games and then lost to LA.
They're very resourceful, you know. They went a lot of
crazy games, and it began Opening Day when Flores hit

(38:07):
the game winning home run against Cincinnati when they were
losing with Treilli in the ninth They kind of began
Opening Day. They've won a lot of improbable games, They've
had a lot of incredible comebacks, they got a lot
of you know, they can pitch. You know, Robbie Ray's
had a great year. Obviously, web is a good pitcher.
They have better pitching than you think. They got pretty

(38:27):
good starting pitching. Melvin's a good manager if you give
them something to work with. And the Giants right now
have a little karmer. They got a little cachet and
they have a little they got a little overachieving element
to them right now, and that makes them a little
better than some of the parts. I mean, you know,
each individual guy, you know, Damis and everything else not great.
But when you put them all together, the way they

(38:50):
mix and match, they've done an excellent job. So from
that standpoint, the Giants got a chance, you know, to
be a They beat the Yankees two out of three.
They had a good series in Philadelphia. They haven't played
the Dodgers yet, and they're not and they're one and
four against the Diamond Max and Padres. They've only played
the but you know, I think they have a very
good chance to be in the mix all year long

(39:11):
in the Nationalge. The Braves are down, you know, So
from that standpoint, or the Mets in the Phillies. The
nl Central will probably produce only one team, which then
leaves you a couple of teams there in the NLL.
So that would be three. I leave you maybe three
teams in that NLS. So keep an eye on that.
With San Francisco, they could be in the mix all

(39:31):
year alone. They really could.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
And I'm sure on the radio can be talking about one.
Sodo has been facing it right now. He's gone from
one Soto to Soso to one no show because he's
not busting into the box. Meantime, Aaron Judge is a
modern day Berry Bonds be closing a personal note, you know.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
And I did I did this, so I did Soto.
I'm mad about today, okay, because I did the statistics.
The fact that didn't run twice, the fact that k
and Clappish got all over them this weekend doesn't seem
to be happy. He Wan, you get paid seven hundred
and sixty five million dollars. You know what You're gonna
be watched carefully. You know, last year Yankees overshadowed the

(40:04):
way attention to Judge too, not as much pressure and
a Yankee fan feeling like they were you know, scorned
what we all knew it was a one year thing
that there is no guarantee you're gonna keep them. I mean,
my god, it was like he was there for ten
years and he left. He's ah goo playing a moon
if the money was right. We all know that. Jeez.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
At a last thought, you know how much I admire
and respect you, and I oftentimes think about my own
career of forty six now four kids, and I go, jeez.
You know, normally in these careers, once you get into
your fifties, they shot the phase you out and they
look up at you.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I watch it.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Go.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Man, this guy's still throwing ninety seven. You're still as
popular as ever. Do you ever reflect on your own longevity.
You're a Hall of Famer and still going strong.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
You know, I try not to get too wrapped up
in that. I mean, you know, the obviously there's little renaissance.
You gotta give Stephen Ayo the credit for that, because
you know, he brought me in there the day that
Bonds and Clemens were veto for the last time with
the Hall of Fame. He needed the baseball guy. He
did two segments, so you have to give him the
credit because that's face that a lot of this Renaissan
just because of First Take. I've signed a contract since

(41:08):
I started here with the with Serious because of I
think the fact that they love stephen A and I
see his power, and the fact that if stephen A
likes me had a serious not I think that contributed
to me being able to resign a Serious when I
did a year or so ago. Because of the success
I had on First Take, I've done a couple of

(41:28):
other things sort of outside of the realm Vice Network.
I did that verdict thing on Belichick and Brady or
because of I think of ESPN. So I think ESPN's
got to get a lot of credit for this growth
and this. You know, the fact that I haven't seeped
into the woodwork, you know, at the age of sixty
five years of age. So let's give them the credit

(41:49):
for that. And you know the fact is that I've
been able to for whatever the reason. You know, I'm
a radio person, but I can play the TV angle
at least once a week and be effective with it,
hand motion, the way I talk the knowledge of history,
so I can do that, so I can blend into
the history from the radio. I can make that transition.

(42:10):
Not a lot of guys can do that, you know.
I actually think the radio to TV journey is easier
content wise, harder talking to a camera and being quick
with your responses. I think the TV radio thing no
issues with you know, how you look, how you present it.

(42:32):
The issue there becomes content because radio is longer with content.
TV is shorter with content. It's all about presentation. Radio
it's all about making sure you know you can fill
up a three hour show. So you've got to be
able to do both. I've always been able to do
the radio and the fact that I can do this
at least a day a week, it's not every day.
At least a day a week. I've shown that I

(42:54):
can make a contribution on the TV and fit in
with the modern age, which is important.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
You mentioned the VERDICTO was just in your interviewed me
because they wanted to ask me about some of the
de basic.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Of season two, which you'll be a part of.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It's Otani versus Bonds, Ruth versus Dion, and as I'm
getting up to leave, I said, sorry, I don't know
anything about golf. It's Nicholas versus Tiger, and I don't
know anything about soccer, Messy versus Ronald the guy actually were
doing tennis Tiger.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Excuse me to go.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I want to give you my thoughts on Federer, so
I give him ten minutes of gold on Federer.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
You're gonna love it, I said, Doggie, I love it very.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Good, because we're gonna do that. We're gonna do five
topics and Federer and Nadal and Djokovic is going to
be one of the topics, and Ruth o'tani is going
to be one of the topics. And you mentioned you know,
Dion and Bo Jackson. That's where it came in.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Listen, the most important thing is not the way a
man is on the air, the way he treats people,
whether it's Bruce, whether it's Rich Savino, whether it's guys
like me. Admire, you've always given us the time. You've
always been respectful. You're an all time great guy. And
again you're making time for us. Doggie, you're the best.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
We miss it about the man. You're my fan club,
but I gotta remember that you're part of my fan club.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
He and Jimmy trained.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Thank you, buddy, Yes, you and Jimmy good job.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Appreciate it. Thanks guys, Thanks Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Thank you so much for mad Dog again.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
You can always catch his show on Serious of course
from three until seven Eastern and on First Take every week.
Hopefully more hockey talk. Maybe he'll be locked into the
cup file next time we speak to him. Cine found
sixty Quick and Dirty here and Lelo and Stitch in theaters.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
They continue, yes, continue, JD.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
The trend here which I'm quite annoyed by, which is
taking the animated movies that making it a live action film.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So oh, the awful.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's just a complete lack of inspiration here.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Just recycling the same crap.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
So oh, we saw The Lion King, the animated film,
which is absolute classic, and I have to go watch
the live action nonsense.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So unfortunately the trend continues to Lelo and Stitch.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
My first thought to is this, I took three of
my boys who went the Dolby Theater, which is the
better theater here in local premuse, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
The big thing here.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
The reason I took it is I want the reclining seats.
Quite honestly, so the reclining seats.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Gotta pay ale extra four prices, four tickets. What do
you think I'm gonna tell me to the ticket prices.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Four tickets, four tickets reclining. See, it's probably thirty one
dollars a ticket.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It just gets a total price.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
You was at thirty one and twenty, okay, tal, you
don't know how to do math.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Thirty Well, you guys.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
You guys are clearly not going the theater as much.
You're going to hire them theaters than I am. Eighty
seven dollars for four tickets, so I thought was outrageous.
You guys thought I got to steal. Apparently, Yeah, twenty.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Why do I go to ipick, which like the food
and the I would go to IPA that might me
serve like a king?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
All right?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
How about large popcorn and three slushes? You want to
take a guests of that price for you?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Six thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Thirty seven dollars god.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Burn popcorn for burnt popcorn with greasy butter and salt.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
But I take full advantage of that free refill for
a large So I'm like, I wait hour too.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
The movie kids a little restless, don't worry, let's get
a little large.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I can't say much, but the film, I meanlest it's
a nice movie for kids. My kids certainly enjoyed it.
I will say I'm always amused by the veteran character
actors suposed to be to go why is in this movie?
And in this case, that guy would be Zach Alfanakus,
everyone's favorite from The Hangover. One of the funniest movie
is The Century. I'm like, just clearly cashing a paycheck. Hey,
we want to put you in Lelo and Stitch is
the bad guy can be a little bit of bugging.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
We'll give you an X amount of points on the
I'll take it. Zach Galvina, this is where his career is.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Now when you see that, did you see to yourself, Hey,
that's just an actor taking a taking a little job,
or do you get a little sad and go?

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Man?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
This guy was really making people laugh.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
And now he's in Lelo and Stitch the lower story
of an alien coming and befriending a little Hawaiian girl.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, I listen. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
I mean it's like, if you're you're providing for your family,
and I mean, if that's what you want to do,
you know, I'm always like, I always laugh when you
know some actors are like, oh, like, why would you
get typecast and I'm like, shit, they're gonna keep paying
you to play the same person over and over again.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Don't interrupt him.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Just cash it and go make enough money so you
can create your own movies. I mean, and then you
can you can make your own shit. You know, one
for you, one for you, two for them, or whatever
it is. It's always a one for you, one for them.
She makes some crappy commercial way, then you make one
independent art.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, but I mean I haven't.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
I haven't seen much of Zach And I mean you
it's tough because you look at those comedians that had
those kind of like raunchy comedies. Do you see many
of those anymore? Like it's the comedy world and movies
is taking touch. A has taken such a kick in
the d.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
It's a great point. You say, Oh, this is the
summer of the hangover, this is the summer. There's something
about it.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, there's nothing to that. Yeah, you don't have that anymore.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
So these guys are just ship out of luck and
they got to go take you know, you gotta be
Jim Carrey's got to be doctor Robotaneck, another son taking
some crappy roll in.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
A yeah, I think it, Brad.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
It's pretty good movie though, so that definitely. Actually, yeah,
he puts a little puts a little flair to it.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Tell once your son gets a little older, maybe go
take him see Lelo and Stitch unless he's clamoring to
go see it right now, unless he likes aliens who
love Elvis.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I mean that was the other upside too. We did
get a good Elvis soundtrack, Devil.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
In discussion you did. Oh yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
All right, let's get by the way, coming up next,
I want to tease this now centopon sixty, I will
be checking out Gillian Muller's Porno.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Which are you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I made sure I checked on Amazon because Jadi didn't
mention Amazon. And nothing worse, by the way, looking up
your buddy and writing porno like my buddy's wife.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I got at Gillian Miller Porno.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
That's what's funny is everybody goes, oh, it's a porno,
and I'm like, no, it's a horror movie about a
possessed porn film that it hits again. It one's it
won at south By Southwest. It's actually like, it's actually
an interesting the way they shot it and filled it
and it has some acclaim to it. So yeah, and
there was talk initially of them like finding distribution.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
But yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
When you look up, I feel like, was you way
from the movie. I'm like, yeah, a movie on Amazon?
What's it called Porno. They're like, oh, oh, so you're
a So you're a cock and I'm like, now, it's
actually a horror movie, but a bunch of kids in
an abandoned movie theater.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You mentioned h Blaschell earlier again another retread here, like
I'm all for it. I mean, whatever, but the main
man behind the bench of the black Hawks three seasons
on John Cooper's staff.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
He was the head coach of Detroit Red Wicks for
seven seasons. I'm shocked he was.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
There's seven seasons. I thought it was three or four.
So he knows what it's like to do a rebuild.
He won the call Detroit's h all team, the Grand Rapids.
Griffins later became the guy in Dallas. You made the
playoffs in his first season behind the bench, but then
they missed the playoffs the next six seasons. I mean,
you're trying to rebuild a team in Chicago, which is
pretty bad. Patience is required as all I would say
to Jeff Blaschell.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I yeah, I think they're a long ways away, and
I think this is probably they need another in between coach.
I think they just needed a coach to get their
identity and then they'll go get the big coach. But
there's a lot of options out there. I just don't
know how sexy of a position this was, you know,
I don't know if this was something that the highly

(49:40):
touted guys were looking at, being like yeah, like a
Joe quinnvill was like I want this. You know, he's
much better suited to going Anaheim. So I just think
people interviewed for but I don't know, if you know,
the juice is worth the squeeze for a lot of these,
you know, more these bigger time coaches. So nothing against
Jeff Blashell. I think Jeff Blashell will use this as
a as probably a springboard to you know, if he

(50:01):
could really turn this around in Chicago. This is going
to only improve his stock. And if he doesn't, well,
you know you could just blame it on blame it
on the rain, blame it on Connor Bdard and you know,
just say I'm out. But yeah, it's I'm more interested
to see the assistant coaching staff what they bring and
I think Andre Sorenson is staying on and as an assistant,

(50:22):
which I heard he's very liked as an assistant around
that team. But I'm just interested to see who else
they bring in and how they round out that staff. Yeah,
see what happens.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I mean, yeah, I don't want to call it uninspired
higher but it's an uninspired team roll.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
So yeah, I mean they got to be happy about
Frank Naser as I segue for you, Yeah, beautiful segue.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well this is great.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I mean you were all over this tage tops Is
scoring the golden goal two minutes and two seconds in overtime.
Jeremy swimming twenty five saves US beats Switzerland won nothing
in Stockholm the DOUAAHF World Championship, first time since nineteen
thirty three.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
They technically were crowned world champions in.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Nineteen sixty when they won Olympic gold, but there's no
actual world championship tournament that year, so a historic win
for the America is heading into the Olympics, we got
eight months until we get to Milan again.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Gendi.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
For those who want to aware you play the World Championships.
You know what this tournament is like, awful result for Canada.
It's just brutal because not to get to the Semis, which.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Is where we won four nations.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
So with Sidney Crossey coming back, you're right, we did
win four nations. But props the American's nice win for them.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
I mean, you look back, you know nineteen thirty three
when gas was like twenty cents, it's cost you fifty cents. Yeah,
and now it's their win. That's how long ago it was.
I mean, congratulations this. You know, we're two Canadians and
you know I had lost in a shootout in World
Championships to Sweden and had such a great opportunity to win.

(51:43):
And you know, I still love that tournament. I think
it's a great tournam. It's a tournament where guys have
to volunteer. You know, they call a lot of guys
and a lot of guys will turn it down, but
you have to agree to go there. It's not like this,
not necessarily it's a highly touted It wasn't a highly
touted tournament. But you see guys having more pride, wanting
to go. Better players there, and I mean, this young,

(52:03):
kind of up start American team, you're starting.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
I was talking to John Torcetti on NHL tonight and
I am, yeah, I asked him. I asked him about
I asked him about it, and he was like, it's
a lot of the US Development Program kids that are
now you know, they've won at that stage, they've won
in the World Juniors, and now they're like taking this
and they love playing for Team USA. So they're starting
to build a culture around these guys. And and you

(52:29):
see it. And I mean, listen, Frank Naser had an
unbelievable tournament, Connor Garland unbelievable tournament, Logan Cooley, The list
goes on and on. Obviously, Tage Thompson, it's nice to
see him get a win after being a Buffalo for
so long and seeing what that tastes like. So I
think he's going to pull that into next season. And
you know, they had such a great team. And then
obviously just the the sentiment of bringing out the Johnny

(52:51):
Goodau jersey.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Uh, you know, what a what a great you.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Know, amount of you know, I don't even just great
closure for that situation and that family and to win
that World Championships. I think just amazing and you know,
you know, gone but never forgotten. But again, this this
Team USA team, you know, and and this Team USA
organization is really pushing hard, and I think this is

(53:16):
a good start for them going into the Olympics. And
I'm sure there's a lot of young guys there that
made a case. They're like, hey, like, we don't want
to be left off this team again because this means
a lot to us. And you saw it just by
their celebration. And I was texting with a bunch of
the guys, Clayton Keller, guys, I played with, Michael kessel Ring,
you know, very happy for them and and I know

(53:36):
this is something that was really high in their list
to win. So it's a great tournament to win. And
I'm sure they're going to be uh hung titties this morning.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Anytime you're repping your repping your country and you went,
I'm what the tournament is.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
It's great to say we got those guys three stars.
I'll kick it off.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
You don't goal with this Brad Marsham and gettingdairy Queen
on his off day he scored.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Fourth and then trying and then trying to get a
then trying to get a sponsorship.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
That was the best part. Live by Bukowskas a sport.
He's like, we just have this picture of you here
at eating dairy Queen.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
He's like, yeah, day off chalship Cookie Dell had to
get it in.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Nothing better than a Sunday Dairy Queen. Balls in your court.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
If d Q doesn't sponsor Brad Marsian, that is a
giant loss for all of us. Love d Q, Love Marsian.
He's been a hell of a player for long. Domatic
great series of the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I loved it. Go ahead, Tal, Yeah for.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Me, I'm going with Ryan, Ryan, NuGen Hopkins. The guys
pass stud.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I mean, has been an absolute stud for Edmonton. We've
been talking about how important their depth scoring has been
these playoffs. He's been leading the charge there. Three assists
in Game three. He has seven points in the series
with Dallas. That's more than Leon, that's more than Connor McDavid.
That's more than any player in the series. And he's
actually in the last four years when Edmonton has been

(54:51):
a steady playoff performer, making deep runs every year. He's
at about a point per game through those four playoff runs.
So let's give this guy a little more, you know,
a little more credit.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
He's been great a STUDI observation Talvivinchevsky astute. I actually
saw on your notes he put NuGen Hopkins and I
was like, damn, that was my pick.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
H No, I have to go.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I mentioned him earlier, Evan Bouchard. Evan Bouchard is gonna
get fucking paid this year, as he should. I, you know,
I quantify excellences as guys that can perform in the playoffs,
and he elevates his game to another level. I mean
the stat of him being just behind Bobby Horror, Bobby

(55:35):
not Bobby Horror, Bobby Orr.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
And that's actually Miller's pornal.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
There's Jason clean it.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Up four points per game of the playoffs, Buschyard one
point one two go ahead.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
That and and that is just insane numbers. And what
he's doing in the Bousche Bomb. But the way he's
playing defensively as well with Brett coole Af they're playing
without Mantia Sekkolm, and he's playing bigger defensive minutes hasn't
been a liability. He just moves the pucks so well.
Shoots the puck so well, and you know, I just
think he's on another level right now. And credit to

(56:09):
him who takes He takes a lot of guff and
bally who from a lot of people in the media
and fans, you know, just because at times he looks lasadaisical.
But I just think it's him what makes him so
frustrating at times when he's just like kind of nonchalant,
is what makes him so good, because he's just so
calm under pressure and calm in the pocket when the

(56:31):
bullets are flying and whizzing by, he is calm, cool, collected.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
We're gonna props to those stars.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Show up the stars who are not shine. We'll bury
these guys in the way out. Jamie Benn won goal
in sixteen games of the playoffs. Jason Robinson one and nine,
Mason marsh With one in sixteen, Why Johnson one and nine,
down and Off one in sixteen, Sagan two in his
last thirteen do Shane one in sixteen.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
We'll see if the stars can pick it up. Will
be back fourche scripted later the week.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Go ahead, you know why before we leave, Because Stewart
Skinner is the greatest goalie ever created Yeah yeah Ah.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
The skin Man.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
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