Conor Garland is a world champion: Cup Final preview, Kraken find their coach and Toews' return.

Jason Demers and Adnan Virk break down the upcoming Stanley Cup Final rematch between the Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers from every angle. Will Connor McDavid assume his place in hockey history? Then Conor Garland comes by following a triumphant trip to the World Championships to talk about his Vancouver Canucks, Rick Tocchet and Phil Kessel. Finally, Adnan reviews Julia Phillips' tell-all memoir, "You'll Never Eat Lunch In This Town again," and the guys select their three stars.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
NHL Unscripted now at its finals. This is the what
we Love away for folks. The telecap final has arrived

(00:26):
and if hopefully like a good sequel, maybe this could
be more Godfather too than the original Godfather, because last
year's final was epic going seven games to Oilers arrived
from three to zero down and then they're going to
face off for the second straight year.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Florida course looking to repeat oil.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Listening of the first title since they won five times
in seven seasons between nineteen eighty four and nineteen ninety.
Puck drops Wednesday, Edmonton, So let us break down that matchup,
and of course Jation nvers will be there for NHL
Network and for Ntscripted.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
JD is gonna be fire up to going to Northern Alberta.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Turtle Island as they call it, the Island of the
Turtles the Chief Blackfoot tribe im on now Edmonton, Florida.
The rematch, Come on, baby, it's gonna be fun. I

(01:14):
was dreading it, dreading them doing the two connecting flights
every gosh darn time that I have to fly from
Edmonton to Florida. But yeah, listen, they're paying me to
do it. Gotta do it, gotta go. Gonna be boots
on the ground for NHL and scripted. Hopefully we'll be
coming to you fans live, and we should be coming
to live before every game, giving you a little breakdown,

(01:37):
little bonus coverage, fifteen to twenty minutes, quick in and out,
so it won't be your normal formatting of Wednesday and
Sunday that you've grown so accustomed to these playoffs. But
it will then become every day before just a little
little pregame preview and kind of give you everything I'm
feeling seeing and we'll just get to chop it up.
But it's a great matchup. I can't wait. This team Edmonton,

(01:59):
I don't know, there's just something about them. I feel
like they're ready. I feel like it's time. I know
they lost Zach Hymon, but you know, for the people
saying Zach Hyman's gone, they were seven and three without
him this year, so they can win without him. So
this is going to be interesting. It's the year of
the Worm. Corey Perry lead miss Edmonton Oilers team in
goal and goal scoring, specifically on the power play and

(02:22):
he's looking to finally get over that hump yet again,
win a Cup that he won so long ago when
he was in Anaheim and now has been to five finals,
so so much to love, so many storylines to break down,
and yeah, I can just keep going all night. You
want me to keep going.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
At now, I'm gonna jump in Laurence Golds And of
course our great researcher NHL never put together a great packet.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
So this is the players to appear in game seven of.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
This stay the Cup final a year ago are no
longer the Oilers slash Panthers. So Philip Robert, Cody Cecy,
Warren Fogel, Dillon Holloway, Roy McLeod, Anthony Stillar's Vibora Tersenko
for Florida, Oel l Eckman, Larson, Ryan Lomberg, Brandon Montro, Coloposo,
Kevin Steley. You mentioned Hymen's injury and Derek Ryan a
scratch through the postseason. I means fourteen players who's ended
up in Game seven last year will not be in

(03:06):
the line for Game one.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's thirty five percent.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
So it is a remac but you're still getting a
fair number players who are not familiar.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
With each other. We kick it off first. We'll do
it like.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
NFL style, will go offense, defense, special teams, so off that. Yeah, listen,
I know you love sport logic, our buddy, Mike Kelly,
sport logic.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Quench the numbers, Edmondsonday fifty two percent likely to winning.
How about that? It's basically a coin flip and the series.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
To go expecting to go. That's nerd numbers right there.
And I love Mike Kelly. Fifty don't even fucking say
it if it's fifty two percent fifty one point, yeah,
I hear it ticking.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Someone says fifty fifty, Well, it's one or the other,
like it's either more of one than that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's never it's never truly.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Fifty to fifty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
But the reason why that they're liking Edmondson by a
slight two percent is the offense Panthers Achilles heel in
this postseason is turning Bucks over Slash having trouble with
the opposition. For check, if you look at McDavid, Dr Subtle,
Nujian Hopkins, those three guys particularly have been hummon. As
you and I have talked about, Florida has more overall depth, although.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Edmondon's Debtholtely has been strong and one of.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
The reasons why they're in situation, but at least in
a cursory look, Florida ten different players in double jeds
of scoring, Edmonton has seven.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Who's got the edge on offense?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You got to always lean on the side of Connor McDavid.
I just feel like Connor hasn't yet had that Connor
McDavid series that we've seen him do so many times,
where he wasn't getting any depth support. He's now getting
that depth support in spades. I just feel like he's
taken on a more defensive role, but I feel like

(04:33):
he has been waiting for this moment in his whole life.
He is ready to rip off their arms and beat
them to death with it with them, He's just on
a different level mentally, and I think Leon as well.
I think these two guys get humming and they can
take over hockey games. I'm gonna be interested to see
the difference from this year to last year. Is the
wholemice advantage on Edmonton other sides. I think that is

(04:55):
huge and critical. If you really look back at that series,
they beat the shit out of Florida, at home in
Edmonton they beat eight to one, six to one. Then
it was a four to three loss. That was the
game that Bob kind of stole. And then those three
games in Edmonton though were the highest scoring games, and
that was large in part because they got the home

(05:17):
ice last change. They got the last change and they
were able to capitalize on it and they really were
able to chase Bob. So this is going to be interesting,
and this is where I think they have the edge
in the series. And if they can get out to
an early one game lead and get that first critical
game because everything shifts if you don't get game one,
I think they're going to be in the driver's seat.
So this is for me, is the offense slightly, ever

(05:39):
so slightly fifty one point two percent on my by
my calculations, goes towards the Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oilers lead all playoff teams is scoring four to oh six.
Florida are behind three eight to eight. Tower point how
close it is. So I'm with the Edmonton slight edge offense.
So they got the game breakers on defense. Florida's seventh
ranked defense during the regular season and the playoffs long
two point two nine goals per game. They've been the
best had some team so far in the playoffs. Edmonton
more feistter famine two point eight one goals against Stuart

(06:08):
Skinned Those are amazing. Three shutouts, of course, but props,
he's no stranger puting a shutout.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Know what a great goalie he is.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Florida the deeper blue line. But Edmonton getting Mattias at
come back. You're the veteran of seven hundred games. Who's
got the edge on defense.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
This one's tough because I actually thought before Mattias et
Com came back, I would have slightly leaned Florida. It's tough, man,
because I watched that games. Troy Stetcher has been the
Darnell Nurse whisperer. They have had some insane chemistry. I
don't think Kulak and Nurse play well together, and they

(06:44):
did not play well together in Game five. I thought
Matis that Com was good, but I don't know. They
got to figure out that second pairing because that's the
pairing that wins or loses you a playoff series. You know,
The Walman Klingberg pairing has been a revelation. I sait
on an NHL network today in NHL tonight. They've been
a revelation back there. They've been incredible. But this Florida
decoor when they have Nico Mikola back, has been very solid.

(07:07):
They've been the highest scoring decore of any decours in
the Stanley Cup playoffs. This is a team that with
that blad with Seth Jones Gustav Forslaying, they play very hard.
They're very physical, they're very mean in your face, and
I think they're more structure based than the Edmonton Oilers.

(07:28):
But the Edmonton Ollis have moved the puck so well
up ice. They're breaking pucks out so clean, and that
is where the game is going to be played in
the grain on the ford check, because Florida loves that
four check, and if they can break the pucks out
the way they've been breaking pucks out clean the Edmonton
others defense, that is they are going to really cause

(07:48):
fits for the Florida Panthers. But no one's been able
to do it. No one's been able to do it.
Edmonton got the closest, but I think with that coming back,
they have that edge as well. So this is me
leaning heavily on the Edmonton other side.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But Goltening edge.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Florida, Yes, Florida goltening edge. But if you look back
at last year, nay not, but a year ago, young lass,
Stuart Skinner outdueled Sergey Bobrovski in that seven game series,
and you can check the numbers. Bob had an under

(08:23):
nine hundred save percentage where Stuart Skinner had an over
nine hundred sad percentage. It was just in the big
moments and we had Pat Maroon with me tonight on
AHL tonight and new analyst, and he was shocked when
I showed him the numbers as well. Be everybody's like
Bob's the edge, Bob's edge and like Stuart beat him
out duell them. Bob got pulled twice in the Stanley

(08:43):
Cup Finals, but when it was critical, when it was
time to make that big save, he made it. And
that was the difference. There was one save that whole
playoff series, the Stanley Cup Finals was one save. Stuart
Skinner made it and Bobrovski, sorry Stuart Skinner did make
it on the Ryan Hart shot. Bobrovski makes it on
the Blockers save. That was the difference. But that is

(09:03):
where the is that Bobrowski has that capability to make
that weird, you know, random Russian dolls save or you're
kind of coming out of you know, anyway, it's crazy.
Just when you think he's down and out. This is
no Bullstoy premium ballot round. Shit.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
They go very good. Yeah, teams, I did like that.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
When you get me, when you go very good. Yeah, yeah,
you're just like this guy.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Never Special teams Edmonton edge of the power play thirty percent,
Florida's at twenty three point two, but Florida's penalty killed
eighty seven point nine. Special teams always critical Florida here.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I mean they've scored and what how many consecutive games Edmonton.
I think they've figured something out on their power play.
But I mean, you're you're getting the best power play
in the playoffs versus the best penalty kill. That is
going to be where it happens on the offensive side,
because if they can shut that down, you know, you're
gonna shut down a lot of Edmonton's offense and you're
gonna have to rely five on five, which they've been
great in the past two series. So it is razor

(10:07):
thin these margins. But listen, don't sleep on the Florida
Panthers power play with Sam Ryan Hartbeck. They were anemic
without him, and now that he's healthy, they looked very
good in Game five against Carolina.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And I'll go the intangibles. This is courtesy of you.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oilers Panthers series mark in the third final rematch across
the last forty two years Islanders Oilers eighty three, eighty four,
Penguins Red Wings eight nine, and both of those occurrences,
Gretzky and Crosby rebounded from a loss their Stanley Cup
Final debut to get redemption and earn their first championship.
You know the famous start we all know his hockey fans.
The Oilers were leaving and they saw they looked in
the Islanders dressing when all the guys were beating up

(10:45):
and like just moaning and growing like, oh.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's what it did. Those guys beat us. They won.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I look at the sacrifice natement. That was the lesson
the Oilers needed, and then they beat the Islanders and
they're on their way. McDavid can join Gretzky and Crosby
in another list. After capturing the consp by last year,
McDavid again among the list of contenders for the award.
He's got six goals, twenty assists twenty six points in
six sixteen games. If he wins again, he joined Gretzky
and Krasman a short list of skaters of multiple cons
by wins. How about this list, Patty Waugh, Mario Lemieux,

(11:12):
Bobby Orr and Bernie Parant As a sign used to say,
only the Lord saves more than Bernie Parant. I just
think Connor McDavid right now, Jinny is a highly motivated cat.
We picked Canada win their first s GEPT in three
two years. The intangible, which is McDavid oilers in seven.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I mean, I gotta ask both of you guys too,
like as hockey fans as well, does this not give
you chills? Like Crosby did it where he lost and
won the next year, Gretzky did it Like how poetic
is it? And isn't that the beautiful thing about sports?
The passing of the baton. You got Connor McDavid with
the opportunity to do what Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby
did and it's just like the eras shifting. Crosby's kind

(11:51):
of a couple of years away from retiring, then you're
gonna have McDavid's gonna take this mantle, and then who's
the next kid that's gonna have this kind of tell
me potentially, we don't know, but like that's the beautiful
thing about sports is this, Like everything else sucks is
so boring, God damn NHL playoffs, but this moment is
what makes it all worth. It is like Connor has

(12:12):
a chance, and I don't know how you feel Canada winning.
Connor gets let's go the Connor gets the con smythe
potentially and the Stanley Cup what he's been chasing. I mean,
how does that make you feel? I get chills just
thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I agree, that's why. To me, it just feels like destiny.
This is a different McDavid. You and I both called
the Kings to win Oilers one. We both called Vegas
to win Allers one. We're not picking against Oilers again,
and that stands for the second foul. I'm not doing
it again. Oiler's power play goal each of the last
five games. Tal Gemy, your prediction, j D and I
clearly both going Oilers.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, I'm going Oilers in seven. I think there's so
much I mean, I keep thinking about, you're gonna keep
me on the road for two weeks.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's what you want, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I want planes, trains and automobiles for two weeks, absolutely
between Night and Florida.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Wearing the same underwear since Tuesday exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Those aren't pillows anyways. I just keep thinking about Connor
McDavid on Amazon, just absolutely losing it in the locker
room and how just how wild the moment that was
to witness as a fan, and like him scoring the
winner at four Nations, and you know, it's kind of
crazy to talk about legacy a player who's not even

(13:25):
been in the league that long, but like he wins
the Consumite and they win a cup and they bring
the cup back to Canada. Like Connor McDavid for me,
is he's in the Gretzky zone with like Sid and
Ovechkin and these other guys.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
If he puts that on his mantle, with.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
All the other incredible things he's done, he's officially like
on NHL Mount Rushmore for me. And that's why I'm
so stoked to see how the series goes.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh and him and his wife just opened up this
new bar furniture store in downtown Edmonton. I'm gonna check
it out, give you a review. Nice fucking guy just
just pissing excellence right everywhere he turns God. And all
he needed was Jason Mrs. To be there one training
camp to turn it all around. You go to teach
these guys about culture togetherness.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think said all that Florida on the road is
unbelievable high ouctin on the road.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I will say this. They've scored five or one
goals in a game on seven occasions.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Bett particular has been great in the playoffs, plus twenty
seven gold differential away from home. So if ever there
was a team that's gonna be undeterred by game one
on the road, watch them just steal Game one and
game two and to go, oh my god, here come
the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh unflappable. But that's where the whole ice really comes
in effect, is that they can win and stand pat
at home. The Edmonton Oilers. They can beat Florida on
the road. So I think it's one of those If
I'm in that room, I'm like, boys, we get this one.
Like I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
These sons of bitches.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
By the way, speaking of Canada, eighteen years between Steele
like a final appearances six to twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oil, there's the first Canadian team.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
To reach the final and back to back here since
they did it back in eighty seven eighty eight they
won two straight Cups over the Flyers and the Bruins.
All right, let's do a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
How many years? How many years since Canada hasn't won
a Cup?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Thirty two?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
One more time for the fans in the back. How
long say.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
It like you mean it with some balls? How long?
Thirty two years? It's gonna end this?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, come on, let's get into a little bit of Dallas,
Carolina quickly before we get to our special guest, by
the way, Connor Garland, because we did not talk with
the Dallas Stars and this is still making rounds.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jake Cottingrew's specific quote is.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Saying that he was embarrassed after getting pulled by Peter Debauer.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You have two goals in I mean two shots. Wasn't
two shots, but.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
No, it was too shots.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It was two shots shots.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
And Bower basically said, listen to us, it's a critical game.
It's a game five. I gotta turn to mymento a round.
I'm not blaming it all on Jake, but I do
think he's going to make those plays at urt Is.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know, he didn't call it his goalie.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He don't call his coach because he just said listen,
I was embarrassed by and I wasn't expecting it. He
did not have a great appearance against the Oilers, and
this is the second straight year that's happened, despite the
fact he's been a good playoff goalie with the exception
of the last two Western Conferences against the Oilers. How
do you see this team? De bower people, people are
called Peter Moore be fired right now.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
In Dallas. It's been crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's the petswick Waw scenario. Gets me is the fuck
out of here, you know what. It just made it
worse that they plopped the backup goalie in the middle
of the benches and he's got to listen to Ray
Ferraro just mumble his way and fumble his way through,
not like rightfully, so like Ray Ferrars standing there like

(16:29):
I don't want to shit talk this kid. But they're like,
hey ray On, whoever's the ESPN producer or whatever, Hey
ray you gotta talk about this guy getting pulled, and
he's like, Jake Andrew's right there, like trying not to cry,
and he's on camera talking about Jake Andrew getting pulled,
and Jake Andrews sitting not but two feet from him.
So I'm just like he was kind of like it's embarrassing,

(16:51):
Like you're on display. You want to crawl into the ice.
You want to crawl under your under your covers with
a with a pint of ice cream and just watch
Chaco la. I mean, it's just it's sad. And I
would be stoff Is if I was him, And you know,
he he carted that goddamn lifeless corpse of a Dallas
Stars team all the way to the conference finals when

(17:13):
those guys weren't scoring and allowed them to kind of
get there. So for him to kind of Pete to Boor,
And I love Pete de Boor as a coach and
what he's done in his tenure there in his career,
but I just don't think it was a good luck.
I think you got to die with your best players,
and whether you're giving them a spark and pulling them,
I think you should put him back in after the
second period.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And for the heart I say about that, I like
Hurricanes Conference final twice the past few seasons.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Still tucking Hurricanes, well.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just one thought, just one victory to show for it.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
They respect to bring back the same quarrel though Brent
Burns is forty needs a new contract, asks his fellow defensive.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
To beat you or Lof. I just want to quickly
hit you on the defenseman, Burns Orlof, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I love Burnsy, It's one of my favorites. If you
can get him back at a you know, discount, and
he wants to come back and maybe play another year.
I don't know how much longer he wants to play.
I mean that guy could would play forever if he could.
Uh yeah, you put them on the third pair and
bring some new and I think, orl Off, you gotta
allowed to leave and walk. And I just think what

(18:16):
happened in the conference finals. I mean it hurt me
in my career at times. I was playing severely injured
before they started doing that pussy thing where they everybody,
everybody says all their injuries, so you feel bad for him,
and like, I wish I had that when I was
playing because I could have just released all the Yeah,

(18:36):
I got to realise all the concussions and torn laborams
and all the all the tortol and drugs I was
taken so I could play these games and fractured foots.
But a lot of those series I got, you know,
abused a little bit, so they you know, and that
hurts you in contract talks, And that's exactly what happened
to him. He got really really taken advantage of in
that series, and you know, I just think that's gonna

(18:58):
hurt him. Come contract talks, and I think he's gonna
end up going somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And one last lot just to pig get back to
like a wound and new you love.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
The stat Panthers was sort a new NHL record for
most games played by one team and three year span.
Kurt records three hundred and nine games set by the
Stars from ninety seven to two thousand the Red Wings
from six to nine. Both those teams lost the Cup
out the end of those three year runs. Fatigue may
be a factor, but I mean first rematch in the
last forty two years. Again, it's amazing to think, oh,

(19:26):
three hundred and nine games.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
What crazy three hundred and nine and the guys that
have been there for all three years, and you know,
I'm sure there's some injuries and it's hard to play
consecutive I think Phil Kessel's had like three hundred and
seven consecutive games and kind of when he was going
to the finals with playoffs. But yeah, I just think
it's great. It doesn't seem like you'd think fatigue would

(19:48):
come into effect. It doesn't look like it. It looks
like they're fresh. They looked fresh against Carolina because I think,
you know, they had some easy not that they had
easy walks, but I think this year was easier than
the last few for them just to get through Tampa
was really the only team that put up any fight. Yeah,
it's it's impressive, man, It's impressive with that culture and
organization has done to turn things around once again. I

(20:10):
was there to show them the way. I showed them
what culture means. The year after I left, they realized
that this is not sustainable as a culture to have
people and players like this, So we need to really
overhaul everything. And that's what I do. I expose the cracks.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, it's an underreported story, Lumber. You're getting here in
NHL and scripted how Jason de Murr's helped change.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Hockey A franchises. Yes, if you looked, Have you looked?
Three of the four teams in the conference finals. I
played for Culture, that's true, and they all turned things
around when I left Culture.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Additioned by subtraction, he's just kidding, all right?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Still to come here on NHL unscripted Connor Garland the
Queen's gambit.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's right, huge chess guy. Also coming up a World
championship forward team in the JD. You're gonna love them.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
World championship goals. Put some respect on his name. Baby next.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Got a world champion in the house.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Our next guest a fifth rout pick one hundred and
twenty third overall the twenty fifteen NHL drapt by the
Arizona Coyotes. This past season, he posted fifty points for
the second time in his four seasons with the Vancouver Canucks.
Most recently, he was a member of the national team,
the bottom gold for America and the double IHF World
Championships the first time since nineteen thirty three. Welcome Connord Garland.
NHL descripted how you doing.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Man, good? Thank you for having me, guys.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, first and foremost World championship. Man, what an incredible
story for you guys. What was the experience like for you?

Speaker 5 (21:47):
It was awesome. You know, it's it's a grind of
a tournament. It's about twenty six days you go there.
I think the first of May we met in Germany
and then we had a little bit of a training
camp and it's slow at the start, but what's the
game's kicking? It really goes by fast. Just to finish
the way we did was just just so special and

(22:07):
such a fun group to be a part of. You know,
it felt it felt like we had to win, just
with all we went through as a team and how
much fun we had it it was it was the
right way to finish.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
You've represented US now for a couple of tournaments, say
the least. What was different about this team for you?
And and and what was just the feeling in that
locker room from jump?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
You know, the two other teams I was on had
a lot of success. We went I believe six and one.
We won about eight games in a row and then
lost in the Semis. Uh. The other team we went
undefeated to the Semis. So the difference about this team
was we kind of got, you know, beat pretty good
early on in the tournament by Switzerland, and then we
we were up five to one against Norway and we

(22:52):
ended up having to win in overtime. They scored five
straight the third. So after that game, we kind of
we had a lot of changes, We worked on some
stuff in our system, made a couple of lineup changes,
and as a group, we kind of bought in and
it was just nice to have a wake up call
and kind of get your teeth kicked in by Switzerland
early on. And and we had we had a lot
of veterans that proud and and we weren't going to

(23:14):
be another US team that lost in the quarters or
you know, so we were really proud of how we
bounced back after that.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
How about Tage Thompson's overtime winning the celebration after that,
How sweet was that?

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah, he gives me goosebumps when you say it, like
in my neck. It's the greatest. It's the greatest feeling
I've had in the game. Uh, you know, I I
I've lost a lot in the semi finals or finals
in my career in junior and very good league and
the NHL last year we lost, so it's to get
on the other side of it. Was such a great feeling.
I was, I was up next, I was changing for him.

(23:44):
So I was sitting kind of trying to focus, uh,
trying to figure out. I thought Fiala was coming out.
So I was like, Oh, this is gonna be a
tough task on the big ice. And uh, someone one
of the coaches, I believe it was night Or was
right behind me and he just said, you know, f
and finish it. And I was like, please finish it.
So when when when you know, when I heard him
yell first it was I couldn't get over the boards

(24:06):
fast enough. It was a great, great feeling.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
You guys, DIDs such a classy move at the end,
Uh with the Johnny goodro jersey. Was that something planned?
And and you know it was a guy that's smaller
in stature but plays a big game. You know, what
did Johnny mean to you? And what did that moment
mean to you as a whole.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yeah, I don't believe it was planned. I believe Zach
went and got it himself. And when he when he
brought it out with the captains, we got around, we
said let's take a picture with it with the trophy.
Awesome And we went up there and I remember him
telling the guy who was representing the i HF that,
you know, we're not we're not taking a normal photo.
We're gonna have the jersey and uh, you know, it
was pretty cool, pretty special to be a part of that.

(24:46):
It's just Johnny was, you know, kind of embodied USA Hockey.
I think USA Hockey's really trying to change what the
World Championships means to a lot of players. It's, you know,
used to be kind of a vacation and you go
over there and you play and whatever happens happens. Now it's,
you know, we want a lot of guys, you know,
our top end players to go and try to win
each year and be a powerhouse and you know in

(25:09):
international hockey. So he was one of the guys that
would always go when he wasn't in the playoffs. And
for me personally, I met him on my tour BC.
I was fifteen years old and Jerry York brought him
out of their locker room to introduce him to me,
and it was like seeing you know, my idol. It
was it was unbelievable. He's one of the first guys
at that size that you know, undersize used to be
five nine, five ten and I'm five, you know, seven

(25:30):
five eight, and that's what he was. So to see
somebody at that statue dominate college hockey and then the NHL,
it just gave me so much motivation. And you know,
he was a special, special player and.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
A special one for you guys. Paying tribute to him
like that.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Talk with Connor Garland right now, Connor, let's talk about
this year coming up in Vancouver again. Lots of challenges
and a new coach now and Adam foot what's been
the message so far the footy.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Have you spoken to him?

Speaker 5 (25:52):
We're speaking tomorrowight. Just actually just we were trying to
connect Cauro up. But yeah, we've just been texting and
he was one of the people who texted me after
kind of every game when I was over there. So's
he's awesome. It's obviously different when he's a head coach,
the relationship will be different, but as an assistant, you know,
he's just one of the you know, one of the
guys you'd love to play for and very smart, very tactical. Uh,

(26:14):
but yeah, we we have a lot of challenges up front.
I mean, obviously, our decor is one of the best
in the league. We probably have the best goal in Tanna,
But up front, we got to have some guys have
some big gears for us, myself included, and uh, you know,
I think we can we can meet another playoff team
if if we have if we have some guys up front,
we really have some good years. Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I want to take it back a little bit to
the start. You know, you played for my alma mater,
monkd and Wildcats. Uh, you know, talk about that organization
because you know, being a guy from Situate, mass Like,
how does that decision come to be? And then you know,
how was it for you going away from home going
to Monkedon and and playing on that team that you

(26:53):
know is owned by Robert Irving and they run that
like an NHL franchise.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It was. Uh,
it was like the mini NHL at sixteen, And that's
that was one of the main reasons I went about
how they treated their players. And the coach at the
time was a guy named Danny Flynn. I don't know
if you had them, JD, but.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'll get through it, and then I need you after
you explain it, I need your best flinnrism.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
And at the end of this he was he was
awesome for me. He met with me when I was
young and explained to me how it was going to be.
And you know, Ivan Barberschef, it just signed there from
Russia and we were both the same age. So the
plan was for us to go there and play three
years together and then hopefully both turn pro. So it
seemed like just such a good fit for me. And

(27:36):
you know, I thought, you know, obviously passing up college
is tough, but I thought to play in the NHL
is what I always wanted to do, and I thought
that route gave me the best chance.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
And give me your best flinnerism right now, because coach
Flynn had the best one liners and never ran out
of him. So mine was, you can't help the club
if you're out in the pub. Yes, yeh, what was
your best flinnerism that you got?

Speaker 5 (28:01):
I don't know if I have a line. I just
I just always remember being young and not understanding why
after games he would make us wait an hour. You know,
the game would end and you would get your do
your routine and get your suit and you're just sit
in the room for an hour. And at my age,
I just thought I just want to go home play
video games. But I never understood he was just keeping
the older guys. They're as late as possible, so they

(28:24):
had no other option but to go home. So I
always found that to be funny after I figure out
what was going on.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
You're a talented player and clearly an articulate guy. Which
gets is the fact you're really good at pissing other
people off. Where does that scale come from?

Speaker 5 (28:39):
I think a little bit of it is just wanting
to win and understanding how I have to help affect
the team on a nightly basis. You know, as a
smaller guy, you know I'm competitive and I play inside
of people, and you know I usually are running my
mouth as much as I probably did when I was
twenty two twenty three trying to have an impact like that.
But now it's just I try to play a little

(28:59):
physical and be in people's faces quite a bit, but
probably more aggravating in practice.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
So, oh are you ever?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
You can speak to that?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are you ever? Oh man? Did he have me squirrely bird?
A few times? Out there? I was in the I'd
be in the D line be like, I'm going to
kill this guy because he's so good and he's shop
talk with me the whole way.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
True. Yeah, so that's where I like to have my
most fun. But yeah, games, it's just I just enjoy winning.
I I I so that that's really all comes down to.
But uh, you know, I like to tow the line
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Did it?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Was it always something that did it hit you? You
know cause you look at and you know, I love
just going back to where we started and monked in
and you know, you had two years around sixty points
and then you explode for one hundred and twenty. Was
there something that flipped in your game or was it
more just the personnel around you or is it a
combination of both along with like you're taking on that
more fuck you approach that you've kind of taken with

(29:57):
you throughout your career, because it's very much how you
play is like you wouldn't expect a guy your size
to shit talk that much, and you do, and you
do it well, But then you're also going to the
net into the hard areas and you're not staying on
the perimeter.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah. I actually got hurt my seventeen year old year
halfway through, so I played fifty games. But after about
thirty games that year, I really started to produce at
a high level. And then I broke my wrist, so
I was done for the season. But I knew going
into that summer that I had a real good chance
of continuing to produce the way I did, and that

(30:32):
was when I kind of took off and had those
two big seasons. But it just was taking time just
to figure out the league. And once I figured out
the league, I started to have some success. But I
really didn't play that hard. I wasn't very hard to
play against. I was more just a point producer. And
then when I got to the AA, you know, I
just struggled. So I tried to play hard and figure
out and then I saw success that way of getting

(30:54):
closer than that getting into corners four checking more. So
my game evolved is into a little bit of a
different player, but I always had the competitiveness, and I
just think it comes out a different way. Now.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Is it the analytical approach that you take, because like
you said, you're very you know, you're very well spoken,
you're very smart. Avid Chess player beat me a few
times in a hotel room late at night. But what
is it just figuring people out? Because for me it
was that as well, Like if I could play against
you enough times, I knew all your tendencies and then
I could really kind of enforce the way I want

(31:27):
to play. Is that the way you look at the
game on a game to game basis like how what
tendencies can I exploit?

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, I don't think more on a personal level. I
think more on just a reflecting on my game, on
what works, what doesn't work, why I'm playing bad? And
you know, the season is so long, so you're gonna
go into ruts and then you're gonna play well and
you're gonna be on the plane thinking I'm never gonna
play bad again, and then in six games you're contemplating,
you know, if you're ever going to get a contract again.

(31:55):
So it's really hard mentally, it's really hard, uh, you know, physically.
So how can I find to get back to my
game is is kind of what I try to think about.
And that's you know, I got to stand around the net.
I gotta shoot more. I can't be just on the
outside hoping for pucks. To come to my corner. And
I would say that's probably the biggest thing I've evolved in.

(32:16):
It's just when the game's going awry and it's two
or three games, how can I get back to it?
And I would say that's the analytical part.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I don't want to typecast all NHL players young athletes,
but generally I hear about stories about swiping right on
Tinder or playing PS five. I don't hear a lot
of guys playing chess. Connor where did this come from?
I'm sure it's a great asset. Playing chess, sharpens the bond, etcetera.
As JD says analytical, Where'd that come from?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
The school I went to growing up? I got there
in the fifth grade. Was a private school and they
had a chess They started playing chess one day in school.
I had no idea how to play, and you know,
I got beat obviously very bad, and I just said,
and I got to get good at this game. So
I just started studying it. I started reading about it,
watching games online, trying to figure out and you know,

(33:02):
by the end of the year, I was probably the
top player in our in our grade. I just became
obsessed with it. So and then I on the COVID season,
I kind of got back to playing it with the
guys and it was a lot of fun and JD
some good games. Yeah, there's some really good players on
our team. Freddy GoChi was really good, Johan Marson, so
we had some good players. And now I play against
Quinn Hughes a lot, but we usually end up watching

(33:22):
his brother's play on TV, so it's kind of a
distracted game.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
What what's your favorite open? For all? Because we have
a lot of avid chess fans that watch our show
with very smart, intellectual show fan base, what is your
favorite open?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I just go two ponds and then the two nights
just basic opens, A basic okay.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I also got to ask you over your shoulder, I
see something related to Jaws.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I don't know if that's Jaws. You're perfectly what is
that Spielberg fan?

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I have a I'm obsessed with the movie. My
son's name quint After actually have the character. I have
a character, correct, I have a massive portrait. I don't
know how much I can turn this, but he's really dude,
that's sick. He's right over there in the corner. So yeah,
I became a huge fan growing up. I have another
shark thing over there. So I grew up in Massachusetts,

(34:15):
right down the road from Marcus Viney where they filmed it,
and I became a huge fan at a young age.
So it's fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I got about to says released, you have no idea
how hard Adnan is right now. He's the biggest he's
I mean, he's this, he does his cin andphile. I mean,
he could tell you everything about that movie. So that's awesome.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll be going down this year, so it'll
be very exciting.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, one of the great stories you know about the
movie is that you know, they had so many challenges
with the shark, and so they delayed the appearance of
the shark, which everyone thought was so brilliant.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
They did it more of the necessity because the shark
was such a pain of the ass.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Correct, Yes, yeah, yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't show it.
So then it became the fear was that you never
saw the shark, and then that that's kind of ended
up hurting sharks in the long run, because no nobody swims.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
You got that right, I ain't swimming at all talk
about h little bit just your time with you know,
I think you know Rick talk it's been impactful on
your career from Arizona to Vancouver and what he's kind
of meant because you know he was bigger in size
than you, but you guys played a similar game in
the sense of going going to the hard areas and
making sure that you find ways to score in those tighters.

(35:22):
But what's kind of one thing talks ty you that's
kind of impacted your career in a positive way.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah, I think structure is the number one thing. I
think you would know me as a younger player, I
kind of just relied on scoring, and you know, I'd
play about eleven twelve minutes a night, and you know,
if I didn't score, I didn't really impact the game.
So I think I went back my third season there
and we had a little bit of dispute in his
office about my role. You know, I had twenty two

(35:49):
goals a year before and led the team and I
was still on the third line playing twelve thirteen minutes.
So I just went in and I said, you know
what's going on here? And he was very blunt. So
you know, he talks about it now I think it's
become kind of a big story in Vancouver, but it
is true. Said to me, he said, you're not a
seventeen minute player. I can't play you that much. And
I said, just make me one. Then you know, work

(36:09):
with me, show me. And you know, he talks about
how as a coach it was the first time he
kind of you know, had a player, you know, you know,
almost remind you of, Yeah, that's my job. It's not
just system. You got to help these guys. And I
was young, and that's what he did. He worked with
me so much. We watched so much film. Uh kind
of after every three or four games, I'd be in
there and I remember sometimes he'd be like, go, this

(36:32):
is this is it right here? What are we doing?
And just you know, okay, okay, you make mental notes
of it, and then you know, fifty games later you're
improving and then he can trust you. So now you know,
twenty eight, twenty nine, and he leaned on me a
lot this year. Defensively, I p k now for him,
so you know, I've come a long way. But he
was a massive reason for it.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
A guy who was a great player, great goal scorer.
You had a lot of jokes about his lack of conditioning.
The great Phil Castle. They have a great to fill
the fill story for us.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Uh, you know Phil, Phil, Phil's one of the best
teammates ever for me. He was an older guy who
you know, I idolized because he was in Boston and
you know, he just he could score from anywhere and
how well he skated. So I think one of the
one of my fair stories I tell a lot of

(37:21):
people is, you know, we had a power play play
once and it was a spread and someone got kicked
out of the face off, so I slid back up
top and I didn't go to my spot after that.
I thought it was over and whatever, and we went
in between periods and talk let me have it, and
he kind of left the room and then he came
back and he gave it to me again, and Phil
stepped in and said, hey, Rick, he's got it. He's good.

(37:44):
And I was so young at the time. My confidence
was shot. And I remember walking out for the period
and Phil's standing behind me. He's just telling me, man,
you are so good, like man one hundred and twenty
points in junior. Oh man, you are nasty, Like how
many goals do you have this year and we were
walking all the way through Geel and He's just pumped
me up the whole way. By the end of it,
I was like, he's right, yeah, real good. So I

(38:06):
just remember thinking about that, like, you know how you're
doing that for a twenty two year old kid. It
is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah. He was always you know, I think people forget
that narrative about Phil that like he was a lot
more team first than people thought, and wanted to help guys,
and he just was so mentally in his own head
that you know, you'd sometimes lose it because he did buddy,
I'm done, Buddy, I can't play anymore. But like you're like,
he would always reach out and help guys and be

(38:35):
forthcoming with his time.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah. Yeah. It was the sticks that year too. He
couldn't find after the Eastern Sticks ended, he couldn't he
couldn't find the right stick. So that was that was
probably the most laughs Iver had.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Were you there when you shave the boards down at Guila?

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Yes? Yes, he was showing the spin on the boards.
He couldn't handle it on the.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Power play and he had Rick come out and he's
trying to get ripped fire and pucks at Rick. You
see the spin he had this poor guy from Gila
buffering down the boards.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
He's probably right too, oh, I mean, yeah, he's He's
never wrong, Phil, that's for sure. He's never never wrong.
What I mean talk to me just about like, what
do you think, you know, lastly before we let you
go here, you know what, And it's tough because I
don't want to put you in a bad spot. So
it's just more like, what do you what are you
hoping for from this offseason with Vancouver? What do you

(39:26):
think this team needs to kind of take that next step,
get back to where you were two years ago, Because
I mean, you guys weren't far two years ago, even
though you were kind of riding a third string goalie
and she loves Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
We were far. You know, we were far from making
this Staey Cup, obviously losing Game seven and you tip
your cap to the Oilers, but you know we were
in a dogfight that whole time. This year, we weren't
far off too. That's the worst part. Obviously we had
a lot of drum and a lot of storylines come
out of Vancouver, and you know, i'd say the water,
you know, on the outside was a lot rockier than

(39:58):
it felt like on the inside for us, But you know,
we were still in the hunt up until two games
left in the season. So yeah, Saint Louis goes on
a fourteen game run and that's tough. You got to
keep pace with them. But you know, I don't think
we're very far off. Obviously we you know, I'm not
a GM, I'm not a coach. I'm a player, and
I have to worry about, you know, getting back and

(40:19):
having a good year. My second half wasn't very good
after the four Nations break, and you know, I was
our top producer up front night fifty points and that's
not good enough for a playoff team. So I have
to have a better year. And I hope a lot
of guys are saying the same thing, which you know,
I know from talking to a lot of guys they are.
So we're a determined group. We're focused, and you know,
we got a lot of special players, and you know,
we got one of the best goalies in the league,

(40:40):
and I think that's always a recipe for success. But
you know, we get off to a good start. I
feel pretty good about our chances.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
I love it. Accountability that's what every team needs. And lastly, man,
I know you just had a kid. Talk about playing
as you know, I knew you as a young, brash,
confident skilled young kids you know, no kids know nothing,
no family, and now you got that. How's it been
that adjustment of playing with the kid versus you know,

(41:09):
going home and playing chess online.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah. What he wants to say is he knew me
when I was a young idiot who showed up at
the rink about thirty minutes before our meeting. So it
just talk.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Hey, we all grow into it. Hey, we all had
our we all had our things. I mean I was
still I was still an idiot at thirty exactly. Fantasy football. No,
what what's it been like? Man, just just playing with
a kid and the difference it it is it takes
to kind of compete in this league with that.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Yeah, No, it's it's it's unbelievable. It's uh, it definitely
changes real fast. You know. It's there's no like, hey,
can I go out to dinner with the guys on
a Friday night anymore? It's your home with your kid.
But he makes it so worth it and having him
at the glass and warm ups and you know, you know,
his godfather's you know, Quinn Hughes. So bringing him into
the rink and seeing him and guys like the Code

(41:57):
of Joshua and Brock Best who I'm really close with,
and having them hold them and it's pretty it's pretty awesome.
It's pretty special. But the off season has been great.
We're just you know, since I've been home, just spending
a lot of time with him, and he's starting to laugh,
he's starting to try to get words out and crawl.
So we've just had a great time together, you know,
and and it's, uh, it's awesome, and I'm just excited

(42:18):
for him to keep growing and be able to grow
up in a rink.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Last thing, do you want to ask a Cup Finals prediction?
Oilers or Panthers?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
What do you got? Oh, it's too hard. They're just
both such fantastic teams.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I think, come on, I've already thought about that.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I would say it sounds weird, but I'd say the look,
the look on Connor's face after you know that boy,
he looks pretty, he looks pretty locked in. It's that's
a tough guy to beat when he's at his best. So, uh,
you know, obviously it's gonna be tough, but yeah, I'd
probably say I'd like the oilers.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Chances you play. You lived four years in Canada, Come
on Canada.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
But but their arrivals and I will get in trouble
from Vancouver saying.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
That, oh that that is true politically.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, okay, so Ill, he's a smart man, smartman on
the ice, spartman offanks. Connor Garland, thanks so much for
the insight man again. Best to your son, Quint. What
a great name, and enjoy Jaw's fiftieth anniversary. We'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Thanks many, thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
As you hit into the summer season, you're cinephile and sixty.
I think it's a great time to read a good book.
So I'm going through my list to the Holiday Reporter.
Tals a big fan his buddy' Seth one of the
writers there. They did a list of the top one
hundred books ever about film and television. Number seven on
that list is Julia Phillips's book You'll Never Eat Lunch
in This Town Again, Number seven.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
All timeless.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
So I gotta go pick this up. Checked it out
from the library, five hundred and sixty one pages. It
is a Scabbrous, Look Out of Hollywood and what went Down.
She was the producer of the Sting with Robert Redford
Paul Newman. One was the first one ever to win
an Academy Word for producing. Later is one of the
producers on Taxi Driver, Great Stories about Scorsese, and worked
with Steven Spielberg speaking of Connor Garland and Jaws.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Worked with Spielberg on Close Encounters. The Third Kind.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Eventually had a serious drug problem, was free basing cocaine
and was out of Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Everyone was doing drugs.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, but eventually I was able to reclaim her career somewhat.
But then Hollywood had changed in the eighties. All they
cared about was, you know, Top Gun and franchises aren't
the hell, it's you know what, I write a book.
I'm going to write a book and just blow up everybody.
And this book is an unbelievable read in terms of
candid tell All books. Here's her thoughts on Dom Simpson,
who was one of that he had producers of Top Gun.
He feels very free but expressing his preferences. We seem

(44:33):
to have revolved mainly around turning women over, and I'm
grateful we never get to intercourse, because I don't think
I'd like it very much his way. We stay tight friends,
but it is by silent mutual agreement that will be.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
No more sex. So this is on taxi driver. Sir
says he's very worried about the editing.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
What's going to be happening, So she says Marty calls him,
calls her sorry two in the morning and an intense murmur.
He says to me, there's only one way to deal
with Stanley Jaffe. I'm going to go and buy a gun,
a little gun. I'm a little person, and I'm going
to shoot him. I laugh, but Marty doesn't lift back.
I wish all these guys would stop hanging out with
John Millius, all these guys, he's antique guns. So also,
and all these guys have guns, I said, Marty, what

(45:08):
was shooting Stanley Jeaffey accomplished. I sit up in bed
and light a cigarette. I puffe it defiantly into the receiver.
Marty wheezes, is bad asthma. You're right, I can't shoot him.
Maybe just threaten him. Is it with a small gun
or a large gun? Marty makes a noise. I root
for this to be laughter, but of course it is
more wheezing. I decide to go for my strong producer performance. Marty,
you just keep cutting it the way you want to
cut it.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Let Michael lead. Deal with the Columbia. We're gonna be
release this movie in February. It is December. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
We'll make it work later on. Again, Marty persists, I
know we'll make a very short Listen to deal.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm a short person here. What cuts can we do?
Later on?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
We have to newly color the ending, and Marty cackles.
Look what it does to Marty's brains seems more pronounced
to me.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
That's right. Marty chokes joyously. Isn't that great?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I cackle too, mostly at bent pleasure. Scarsese is one
of the few people I know who, with this statue,
have so much cloud. And he's also very sick and
very funny and entertaining man, and I love him. And lastly,
from Julia Phillips's.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Book, well More, Okay, we go one more.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
She's trying to reclaimer career of this producer. He arrives
as my assistant Karen is about to leave. Some instinct
to me asks her to stay. I shoot to throw
up the movie, pile a bunch of pillows on my
bed for his head. My cat jumps on the bed
in front of Freddie's face. He jerk's back. I always
want to see your pussy, but I didn't know it
would be so soon. Julia Phillips, You'll never eat lunch
in this town again. This is a book if you

(46:22):
want to read what Hollywood is truly all about, the
nasty people that are involved in this, the salacious, lewd
and decent allegations. You will love this book and stories
with Steven Spielberg on The Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
she referred to Spielberg as difficult, demanding, arrogant, and she
said that prick wouldn't know the first thing about Hollywood.
I taught him to write in a first class limo,
and all of a sudden he got me fired with
this at a Close Encounters. Unbelievable story telling with Julia Phillips.

(46:44):
I didn't know what happened to her, essentially, because she
wrote this book and just told tales and everybody ripped everyone.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
She never really worked in Hollywood again.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
But we have the evidence of an unbelievable book for
all you women out there when I work in Hollywood.
You'll never eat lunch in this town again. Julia Phillips
available at.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Your local library. Let's get back to the hockey. Lane Lambert,
how it is his salad?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
How do how do we recover after this?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Well, one of the best heads of the hair it
gets a job as a head coach of Seattle crack
and was an assistant to Berry Trotz in Nashville, Washington
and the Islanders. Was also the head coach of the
Islanders for Seeds and Half were replaced by Patrick Waugh Kracking.
As you and I have discussed, you do, you have
very nondescript Bland identity challenge team Lane Lambert. That's your
face of charisma, that's gonna bring the that's gonna put

(47:29):
asses in the seats, sixty year old Lane Lambert.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah. I mean the one thing about Lane is like
he's kind of done a little bit of everything in
the league. So he's been a pepe coach, he's been
a penalty goal coach, he's been a you know, five
on five D coach, offensive coach, so he's kind of
knows every role. So I think, you know, having another

(47:53):
set of eyes and understanding what you need for each
of those positions is super important. So anxious to see
what he does. I mean, all of Seattle's moves have
been a little head scratching, but Lane Lambert's kind of
was the sexiest option other than Mitch love. So I
think it's interesting as the Seattle cracking, which is like, Okay,

(48:17):
let's see what they do and see what happens. And
I feel like they're very close to the edge of
just everything getting blown up. So they need to figure
out because they've got a good fan basic climate pledge,
and they need to honor that fan base and fucking
do something. And the thing that interests me with this
higher as well as I forgot to say, is I
mean he was part of the Maple Leafs this year,

(48:39):
so assistant coach associate coach learn under Craig Berube a
little bit. I mean, I think it was a good team.
He you look at them bringing him here, Mitch Marner,
Seattle cracking, ow fun, Seattle cracking.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I like, it's well done. That that is connecting some dots.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well, fuck, I gotta do everything here. I got a
social media I gotta do the leads. Come on, help me,
help you speak of the leads.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Good to see Jillian going to see gle Gery len Ross.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Thank you for I was with her. I saw glengarygan Ross.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
How was it? Speaking of the leads, it was great.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Speaking of the leads, he got the leads from the
dog shit leads, three leads that closed them. Patel, Yeah, Patel,
and the theater erupted.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Patel rather than Patel pull a bunch.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Of pollocks with their money and their socks.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Bil Burr feels like he's at living half of those
racist dietribes.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I feel like Bill Burr's Bill Burr plays Bill Burr.
I loved I mean Bob Odenkirk, Yeah, because I mean
the role that he was in was just amazing and
the way embodies it was. He got He got Kulkin
too break during the show.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
He did what happened.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
He just was doing that scene when he's talking when
he's talking about the sailor just did to the couple,
and he's like, and I had the pin and I
twisted the knight, you know, I twisted and twisted And
he's like pointing at Culkin, and Culkin's like visibly laughing,
and he walks away to kind of like do the
scene where he pulls the chair and he's almost addressing

(50:12):
the audience.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, this is after loss is big exit build.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, and Culkin's still giggling in the corner, like holding
his mouth. So people were like kind of laughing and
oh nice and enjoying it a little bit because he
was like visibly breaking because I just thought it was funny. Yeah,
that was a great It's a very good show. Good concept.
Howt flips and switches at the end. Go see it
if you're in New York. Yeah, and tell him that
Jason Demurs sent you.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I love the Bilberd.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Michael mckeon'stein that second scene, just the interplay between Moss
and Aerono.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah, well the first two. Yeah, it's one guy talking,
one guy making you know, it's just good writing. Quick mammot, Oh,
very quick, very fast, get to the point. Fifty minutes show. Yeah,
it's staccato, repetitive.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
It's incredible. Last one for it.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Jonathan Taves has informed his Asian paperson as one hundred
percent committed to coming back to the NHL next season.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Thirty seven last played to April twenty three or three.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
It's been two years, so you were on the record.
You went against Mike Rupp. You said, gabrielanis I was
gonna come back and make it impact. What do you
expect with Taves potentially coming back?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
And I was right?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, if I just said I said you were, you
would to give Mike ruperts.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
It's hard being right all the time. I don't understand.
I like being wrong. I enjoy it. I'm not some masochist.
I enjoy being wrong so much it turns me on
when I'm wrong. You'd rather be wrong, but you're rather
I tell everybody I'd rather be wrong because me being
right all the time. Oh, it's not good. It's not good.
It means everything's fucked anyway. Uh yeah, Back to Jonathan Taves.

(51:34):
I think he can impact the team. I mean, John
if uh you know, you got to I compare him
right now if I haven't seen him skate or play
John Tavera's esque and John Tavera's esque with a high
hockey IQ is able to impact the game. And the
issue now is that a lot of the young kids.
It's not the issue. But the league has never been
more young, never been more exciting, never been more offensively dominated,

(51:58):
but never been dumber in the hockey IQ and Jonathan
Taves is very high IQ. And you see the guys
that's why you see more players with high IQ in
the league having all of a sudden, these better seasons
are sticking around longer because then the youth that has
come in is not as smart and detail oriented. That's
why Corey Perry is still doing what Corey Perry does

(52:21):
at forty years old. And I think Jonathan Taves, if
he's in shape and healthy, I think he can really
help a team a good team. You shouldn't go to
a bad team. He should go to a high end team.
I could see him maybe going to a Colorado.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
So third line center and a great team, second line
center and a bad team.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Is that fair? I think third line center all around
still effective.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Still guys can get things done. Three stars. Come on,
tell give us out a league we got.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Yeah, you were talking about the guys who were not
coming back from the pactors from last year's Cup run.
That was you know, Montour and Eckman, Larson being the
main guys. And I just think my selection Aaron Eckblad
has just taken it to a whole he Aron, Hey, Aron, exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
But yeah, He's just been.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
There.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
He is there.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
He is Pinchevski's point eighty five points per game in
these playoffs and third in playoffs scoring among d men
eleven points in thirteen games.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
I did a little stat digging. Here's what I came
up with, and I'm just gonna drop the mic on this.
Florida ten and three with him in the lineup, one
and three without him in the lineup. He missed four
games because of suspensions, eight and one in the playoffs.
When Aaron Ekblad gets a point, Boom, that's my selection.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Wow, Boom goes to Dynamite. That's a great one, all right, Ad,
then hit it.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I got Sasha Barkoff. He's won the Selki twice. Favorite
take on the trophy again this season. If he does win,
he'll be the sixth player to win three or more
Sealky trophies, join a list of Bob Gainey, Patrice Burgromp
Paboldatzuk you' Latin and Geek carbon Hill. He's captain of
Squad of three streets still like a file appearances. He's
eleventh player in hockey history to do that, just the
second to do it in the last forty years. Steven
stamp cost did with the Lightning and last year became

(54:04):
the first Finish born captain lift the Stanley Cup. You
think of all Swedish no finish, but think of the
great Finnish born players Yari Curry, Tiamo Salani bark Off
on that list, arguably the best two way player in
the NHL. He's not gonna turn thirty until September. I
want to give some love to him, captain his team
back to the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Jitty, are we sticking on Florida all of us?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I picked to wins. So I want to get Florida
some love.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
With three Yeah we we really we Yeah, we really
sucked off Edmonton there for a while. Let's give Florida
a little love. I'm gonna go with Carter Ver. Swegy
nice uh leads all players in game winning goals in
the past I mean three years. I mean he is
just mister clutch. Got the clutch gene, something that Lebron

(54:45):
James does not possess, but he has it in space.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Lebron James's four championships. Swegy just a sideway swipe there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
I like this.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I like the classic drive by Barry somebody, thanks.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
So much for checking l trip to Conteror, Garland was
absolutely fantastic. More great interviews coming down the pike because
JD is going to be boots in the ground, they're
still like a file Media Day, you're hostiled. Hopefully Tal
can get out there for media Day. Bob Bender still
working on up in the air. See if we get
that flight to Edmonton. But regardless of NHL Unscripted will
be all over it. Thanks so much for checking us out.
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcasts.
For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.