Jason Demers shares a memorable encounter at Whole Foods before he and Adnan Virk get into the big Canada-U.S.A. championship game and all the highlights from the 4 Nations Face-Off. Actor Jeremy Piven then joins them to discuss Chris Chelios, his late mother and his upcoming film, The Performance. The guys also reflect on Guy Pearce's comments about Kevin Spacey and Chris Russo's 4 Nations hot take. Finally, David Ayres stops by to mark the five-year anniversary of his historic NHL debut.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
E's di herse On Burke once again. This is Unscripted,
Episode twelve, coming at Joe. Thanks once again the NHL
and I Hear for letting us do this. Jad. We
got lots to talk about. Jeremy Piven. This is a
(00:26):
laughed riot. He's going to stand up tour, that's right.
The Emmy Award winning actor from Entourage. He also is
a great dramatic performance in a film called The Performance.
He's a huge Chicago Blackhawks fan. Tell some great Christellio stories.
He's fabulous cinephile. In sixty Guy Piers taking shots at
Kevin Spacey because I'm pretty sure you and Teal did.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not watch The Brutalists. So after that, reveal my own.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But we are talking Guy Pierce at least, and of
course we are discussing what is going on with the
Four Nations and David Ears remember him five year anniversary
of an Ebug of All Time, having said that though
we want to start with an am I wrong? Nothing
we love more than this segment here and unscripted, the
floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, hello everybody, Well this am I wrong segment where
we're testing this thing out. Uh, it happened to just
fall in my lap, probably an hour and a half
before we recorded this. So we're at the Whole Foods
in New Jersey. We're going, me and my wife are
going trying to get some food for tonight, and we're looking.
My wife's looking for pesto. She's looking for pesto. She's like,
I just want some pre made stuff. Let's do it quick,
(01:24):
you know, we don't need to like just be fussing around.
It's gonna be too late. So we walk around. Finally
we can't find it. After five seven minutes. My wife goes,
I'm just gonna ask the guy that works here. So
she asks the guy that works there Wan and she
he's bent down and he's stocking the shelves, and we go, hey,
excuse me, sir, do you know where the pesto is?
And he looks at us blank five seconds, blank stare,
turns looks at my wife and he just goes, I
(01:47):
think we're sold out. Wow, and my wife and then
my wife goes sold out, like of like the really
popular kind, like this vegan pesto that's really good. I
was looking for goes he goes, yeah, I just it's crazy.
He's like crazy, it's sold out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So we're like all right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So we start walking away and we're like, hey, like
what then, what are we going to cook with?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
What are we gonna make?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We proceed to walk about ten to twenty paces, and
in front of us, much to our surprise, is a
whole row shelf a pestle.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So this guy just I'm picturing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like a cardboard cutout like literally fifty pestos.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Here, unlikably on sale, like different kinds, different brands. And
we look at each other and it's one of those
things you're both like did he not know and just
purposely lie? Or did he know and just like didn't
care to tell us.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, it's the first one he doesn't know, And rather
than say honestly, I'm not sure and be viewed as
potentially incompetent, he lied and goes, oh, we don't have it,
like really, but yeah, it's all gone.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I guess yeah, So I guess My question of
that is like, if you do not know, do you
just lie and omit the truth that you have no
idea where anything is and just say yeah, just so.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Right, now his anterwest right, because if you report it him,
if you go ask, hey, what kind of an employee
have here?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Like this guy doesn't even know what he's doing here,
Like I don't know, like what.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I report?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Wouldn't I report him more to Hold Foods Corporate that
he just cost them a sale, but we did end
up buying it, so home jokes on us we end
up buying.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But tell he's a similar situation.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Like this, right. This was in New York some time ago.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I was in a Best Buy and I asked, you know,
someone working there for help. Immediate response, sorry, I'm on
my lunch break and walked off. And I looked at
the time and it was nine thirty in the morning.
So this guy just didn't want to work.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I didn't even like that.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I think that's where the pesto was. I didn't ask
him where the pesto was. I just to help me,
can you help me? And there's response was I'm on
my lunch break. Sorry, And it was the tap back
of the lunch hour.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
A somebody would ask you for directions, you have to
actually listen to them. Take a left right there, take
a right at the corner store, there's a gravel road.
Now with Google Maps, it's okay, But if you could
give false directions, will you will you just tell someone
that it's kind of in that area.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean if I have a general idea, yeah,
that I'll be I'll tell him. I'll officit by saying
I don't know street signs, but you know, it's kind
of like you know, twenty paces and under the right
and then maybe the left.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's kind of in that it's about northeast.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You gotta come on, I love directions.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Just go go west about five miles and then go
where the I don't know where the fuck I am
right now, even though we're going for west.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Look pioneer? Do I like a butter and I can
tell with the sun where north is. Look at me,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Know, Well, the sun's over your left shoulders, so you
should north northwest. That that pisses me off. That people
even know that pisses me off. But anyway, yeah, that's
kind of just just Google Maps. But yeah, the what
I when I was leaving the store, I looked at
my wife and I said, I want to follow this
guy now because I want to know if like he
even works here. Like it's like I want to see
(04:52):
wand and sit down Tom. I want to sit with
him and be like, hey, Wan, yeah, hey, the Pesta
wasn't sold out, So why did you lie to me?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Just tell me why?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I agree?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Like, I'm not gonna porch. This just's bro to bro, Like,
I'm just like, what what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm not anyway he would.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Have lied again, he was honestly, I had no idea.
I guess we just got that in there. I'm like,
you are lying.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Through your teeth.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
This is unbelievable. You just compose a liar. You're actually
your job of your liar.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, you're great anyway, and we're off all right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So that's where am I wrong? Swing.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's with the actual hockey, the US and Canada playing
tonight in Boston. Four Nason's faced off title on the line,
three one US win on February fifteenth, and it was
an unbelievable game, there's no question. But despite what Matt
doug Russo had to say, we'll get to that in
just a second.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Use this show here, but I will.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Say this, Jenny again, three Canadians here, all of you
in America I'm very let's say, squamish. I'm concerned. I mean,
I can't wait for the game. I hope, I hope
Canada wins. We delivered. But one thing that's been interesting
is people look at these numbers and again we'll get
to the sports in just a second, the actual game,
but four point four million Americans watch, which is a
gigantic number for hockey and America huge, but also right right,
(06:02):
four point four dude, that's great mill of February. But
Canada got a five point seven fifteen percent of our
population watched this game.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So if you look at America three or thirty eight million, whatever,
his points are a one bottom. Liize this.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
For Americans it's a big deal and for us it's
always a big deal. What's gonna be the key to
Canada winning tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, in the first matchup, it was a defensive masterclass
by the USA hockey team, specifically Jacob Slavin and Brock Faber.
They ate up a ton of big minutes. They frustrated
the Canada ought uh, sorry that they frustrated the Canada attack.
Canada got really frustrated, started throwing pucks into the middle,
played a little bit too individually, and just played a
(06:42):
little too cute. And I think for them to win
this game, they're gonna have to really rely on making
it more chaotic in front of Connor Hellibuck, because Connor Hellibuck,
if he sees it, he's gonna stop it. And if
he's getting a little bit of guys in his face,
pucks and bodies in his face, a little bit more
desperation on the offense, it's gonna bode better for the
(07:02):
Canadian team. So you know, the USA, I thought played
a perfect game. Now they're a little banged up going
into the second game where I think Canada's finding their stride,
albeit they almost blew that against Finland. But for this
game tonight, it's listen, you you have your top guys
are gonna have to be your top guys. It's one game,
it's a game seven. This is what guys dream of
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to play in a hockey game like this, to be
that it's a legacy game, to be that guy, to
be the hero. And I just think one on one,
one game a game seven. There's a lot of guys
I like on the Canadian team, but it's gonna be
tough because you know, you look at the Kachucks. They've
had a fantastic tournament. They're a little banged up, but
these guys, He's American team and they believe.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
The belief is high.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They have a lot to play for, Johnny Gudreau, a
lot of other things, the pride of USA. I'm a
little upset that Donald Trump isn't going.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He said he would not be attending, even though we had,
you know, our lame duck Prime Minister Justin trudeaugo, which hey, listen,
he went, so credit to him for doing something to
support Cannon in his tenure. So one thing he did right,
and the whole goddamn tenure in foot of loser anyway.
But Trump's not coming, so that helps the Canadians. So
we're we're cooking in Boston. Him not going, uh, but
(08:15):
I yeah, I just think it's gonna be very And
here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
We didn't have Cale mccarr. Cale mccarr's back. Now.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now obviously USA didn't have Quinn Hughes and they beat us,
but Quinn Hughes is not going to play in this
game as well. So we have Cale mccarr. It's gonna
be a big difference maker. And Connor Hellibuck versus Jordan Bnnington.
One game face off.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Very simplistic, right, goaltending, got shit? They got us in
the goaltending. Yeah, second goal, but he to give up.
I know I'm only looking at one goal, but I'm
like that, that's what.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Of course, pause, he's let off, He's let in a
couple of softies. But a game seven, I want the
chip on his shoulder. I want that cockiness of Jordan Binnington.
And this is a big moment for Connor Hellibuck. He's
showed that he can play in these big games.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He's also shows pooped the bed in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But that's the thing, so this could be this is
the moment, So how do we get there? It needs
to be more chaos in front of him. He's been
way too comfortable this time. Credit to the defense of
Team USA, but now they're losing. Charlie McAvoy who goes out.
He has that surgery, which is scary for the Boston
Bruins fan. I heard Bruins are pissed. I was listening
to Elliott Friedman talk Bruins are pissed because it was
(09:18):
kind of misdiagnosed and he should not. He was hurt
in that Finland game and should not have played against Canada,
but played anyway, got shot up. I'm sure with some nice,
nice druggy papoos that would have helped him get through
it in the nerve blocking.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Region.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So I think it sucks because you don't want to
see the one thing I said about the tournament, I
just don't want to see any major injuries, you know,
and this is probably the most severe I want to
see being comfortable with this tournament moving forward.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So Candy USA has been a great rivalry, certainly in
women's hockey. We're now seeing it in the U West,
and as you mentioned, even politically with Trump and the
terrorist and all the rest of it. Just imagine that
reception that Boston crowd's gonna give oh Canada. That could
be interesting. But you touched on the injuries here, jad Quinn.
He was out McAvoy as you mentioned, the Kachucks are
nursing injuries.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Say Theodore is out week to week. Now, is there
a way we can do this?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, they've already announced a World Cup tournament in
February of twenty twenty eight. I don't think there is,
because before I ask you the question, but I think
there is there's a way you can tell hockey players, hey,
just play at sixty percent, like no what you're playing
for your country. Like you saw immediately the intensity level
that Canadas Sweden game. We talked about last week, the speed,
the passion of the hits, et cetera, the fights, and
Canny will say, I don't think you can tell guys
(10:32):
that let up. But as you said it also correctly,
the drawback is it's unfortunately, there's going to be injuries.
I don't know what the answer is. I don't think
there's an answer. If you're gonna play best on best,
guys are gonna get hurt unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I think it's really black and white. I think
the only other sport where you see this much pride
in these games is baseball. But it's no physicality to
it in the sense of there's no hitting. You know,
the pitchers love it, the teams want to win the
World Cup of Baseball. Is that it's called the World
Cup of Bad Baseball. Yeah, w peah, and and that
that's electric factory and for all intensive purposes. It's probably
(11:04):
the only other sport that you see the pride come
out in these games. And guys forget that. Hey, I
don't care if I blow my arm out or I
don't care if I get hurt. I'm winning this game
because playing for your country. You heard Brandon Hagel talk
about it. You know, we're playing for flags, baby, we
all playing for flags in Canada.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I just don't think there's a way around it.
You can't you know, and you can't say put it
in the summer, because you guys, it's a hard enough
for ant it is. Yeah, the summer's off. You can't
do it at the start of the season because then
you're setting guys up for the season. It has to
be at this point of the year. It's the only
way around it, and it's either all in or all out.
I think with this, I don't think there's a way
(11:45):
to sugarcoat it and be like, hey, let's baby, these guys, you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Know, no hitting or whatever you do.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Flag football, like football does is garbage. So I just
think it's really going to be something that the league
looks at and you kind of as an ownership of
teams and gms of teams, you just got to kind
of grit your teeth and give it the old. Please
don't get hurt, Please don't get hurt every game, and
hope they have fun.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
We'll get to our guest Jeremy Piven in just a
second last topic though, speaking of the passion of NHL
players versus the lack of passion the NBA All Star Game.
Our buddy PK suban you've hosted Coast to Coach with
him Andy Patrello on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
PK went on ESPN and said, hockey's.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
A different sport from the NBA. You can't compare the
cultures because of the way the game is played. You
can step on an NBA floor and go through the emotions.
You can't do that in hockey. You can't like the
culture of our sport. You have to play it with passion.
You have to be willing to fight, you have to
be willing to leave it on the ice. That's what
(12:43):
fans are investing in. So for us, when we charge
fifteen hundred dollars for a ticket to come to Fortit,
fans know what they're getting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Again, I don't mean to be that guy Schirp in
the NBA, but if you've ever seen a greater di comedy, people,
what hockey all is all about and that intensity versus
the lame mass NBA All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh, that was pathetic to watch that. I would love
to see the viewership. If anything, it was pathetic. And no, listen,
nothing against them, it's you. Listen to Kevin Durant. He
tweeted just today talking about retweeted yesterday just talking about
how he said, hey, listen, like maybe we just scrapped
(13:21):
the All Star Weekend because everybody's complaining and guys don't
try hard enough. And I'm like, that's you, guys. You
guys aren't trying hard enough. That's what's causing the problems
in the complaining. And then somebody's clapped back at him
and he just went, well, go watch hockey then, because
they seem to care a lot, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Are you eating me?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
There's no other sport where they could just openly shit
on the fans, and the fans are like, here's my money,
here's my money.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Load, It's just load.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And listen, I've said it on multiple of these of
these episodes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Get your paper booboo.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm like, if you can find a way to hack
the system, head, good for you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I give you the golf clap.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But for Canon, what makes me prideful to be a
guy who played in the NHL and representing his country
is the fact that we could put that all aside
and there's no friends. You could be playing with guys
on your same team and then you play against them
because they're from a different country, and there's such a
melting pot of guys and it's just balls to the wall.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Guys just sacrifice themselves. This is middle of the season.
You're not getting paid for this. Yes there's a bonus
at the end, but you are not getting your your
predetermined contract. You are getting a bonus if you win
as a team. The way these guys lay their their
their bodies on the line, it's just it gives me chills.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It gives me.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Clammy paws in my hands just thinking about it, talking
about it and watching these guys, it makes me I said,
I said it a couple of times in the last
few days.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
This has been one of the only things that's made
me want.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
To come back as a player, to experience that feeling
again of just the buzz, the hum, the fans, the country,
the people like it's just this is what makes hockey
so great and This is also a magnifying glass of
what makes basketball so great is that they don't truly
care about It's very much an individual sport, even though
you're within a team. It's very individualistic the culture of it.
(15:12):
And I was sitting with somebody yesterday for lunch and
they told me something pretty interesting. They said they were
like the NBA All Star Game and specifically the sport
has really started to change since Kobe's passed. Since Kobe
was gone, the culture's tried to change because he kind
of moved the bus. Jordan as well was doing that,
but Kobe was the guy that took the mantle. Then
(15:32):
after that, how do you expect Like PK said it perfectly,
and I love what he said, how do you expect
Lebron's that, I'm out, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't need to play it.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And credit to him, he's created a monster franchise around
himself and and he's created this brand that's synonymous with
him and his lifestyle. But again, people follow that, and
then all the players follow that. There's no accountability anymore.
Guys don't hold each other accountable. And then I just
feel like Kobe's been a huge missing piece in terms
(16:01):
of culture within the NBA and and gamers. So it's
sad to see that Durant would even say that because
I'm a big proponent. You've heard me talk about it before.
I nan of respecting the fans because without them there's
no money. Yeah, without them, there's no money. The viewership
is what drives money, drives brand deals, it drives ratings,
it drives TV deals. It's the fans that show up,
(16:23):
So you have to this is something for them, for
your country. You have to show up and show out,
and it just hasn't been the case. So, like I
said before, it's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, honestly, the Four Nations has been a reselding success
for everybody except for one person, mad Dog Russo Well
Getsu was commented a little bit later on. But first,
Jeremy Piven is coming up after this break a Blackhawks fan,
a Chris Chellios guy. The performance is a terrific new film.
He has that stand up comedy. You're gonna love this interview.
He's really funny. PIV on the way, What a pleasure
(17:04):
to break an Emmy Award winning act of the long
list of memorable performances and film and television to his credit,
He's done all on every screen, now ventured out in
the cutthroat world of stand up comedy. As if that
wasn't enough, his latest film, The Performance, has earned him
some of the best reviews of his career.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's absolutely fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Great to talk to Jeremy pivot again, a previous guest
on to the Foul and here An NHL in script, Jeremy,
great to see him.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Man, how you been?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Is there any way you could say that faster?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I've been accused of talking far too fast, but I
can give it one more take if you want.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Uh No, No, it was literally perfection. He's a pro, consummate,
an absolute pro.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Man.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I'm blown away. Yeah, okay, guys, thank you. I think
we did it. I think that was it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Speaking of perfection, the performance is unbelievable. Listen, man, Honestly,
I watched my wife and we were blown away. And
and I didn't know much about the original Arthur Miller's story.
I did not know the gravitas and the dramatic chops
you could bring to the story. But I thought you
were phenomenal and quite frankly, a little surprised. Kevin been
getting more awards. Buzz for this performance because it was fabulous.
I know it's a family affair. Tell me, what was
(18:08):
it about the story of that appealed to you and
how it came to be.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
A short story out of the New Yorker my mother
gave to me and I read it and I was
just so blown away by it. And you know, it's
there are a few times in my life where I've
read something and it just hit me and I really
got it, and this was one of them. It's why
we do what we do. I just knew if I
could do this right, it'll make people take pause. And
(18:36):
and you know, ultimately it's about how far how much
of yourself will you compromise in this life to be successful.
And in my character's case, he he hides the fact
that he's Jewish to dance for Hitler. And that's the
moment where all of your listeners turn off. They thought
they were gonna they thought they were gonna see you know,
(18:58):
they wanted to see Chris Chelios. They want to talk listen,
they want to talk about some fights, they want to
hear some Gretzky stories. They don't want to hear an
old Jew talk about anything anything.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But I'll tell you one thing about an audience trument,
and we all listen. We all appreciate a good song
and dance man. So I want to know where did.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
You I'm not I'm not dancing, thank you. I'm not
a song and dance man. I've never been. Just an
actor and a delusional actor who is stupid enough to
to try anything. But you know, and the in the
words of Dave Chappelle, you get paid for the attempt,
(19:39):
do you know what I mean? And so you know
I I I saw the role, and I just knew
it was the role of my life, and it was
It's the best performance of my life. And and I
just thought, if if I could, I could play the drums.
I played the drums my whole life. If I could
transfer the skill from my hands to my feet and
(20:00):
drum with my feet while learning choreography, then it's game on.
And so that's somehow.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Happened, Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know, this labor of love took fifteen years, which
is crazy. You know, it took my whole life to
make it to the NHL. And listening to you do
some interviews and talk about how you know, sticking with
it and just being ready for when the opportunity knocks.
But how important is it having your family? You know,
sheer a pivot, your sister was there directing it, and
how was how important was it to have your family
(20:34):
around kind of to keep that resolve through the ups
and downs of fifteen years of trying to get this made.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
My mother, who passed away last week, said to me,
you have to stop telling people the truth because they
don't know where to put it. Think about how heavy
that is. Yeah, And I've been telling people the truth
my whole life. And I don't recommend it to anyone.
I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm telling you, man,
(21:06):
people will lose their fucking minds.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's cost you relationships.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
It's It's definitely cost me relationships. It hasn't. It almost
cost me jobs. But it might have cost me jobs
because my father was the best actor I knew, and
he was always telling people the truth them people were like,
the fuck are you talking about. He would just tell
(21:34):
people to their face, like Dad, they can't handle that shit.
And he would. But by the way, here's the irony
of all that. He was my acting teacher since I
was eight my mom as well, and he would while
you know, you know, I respect the fact that you know,
you're a pro player and have that background. And as
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as an actor, I started when I was eight, which
is very similar to pro athletes. And my father gave
me a lot of tough love and and we were
in rehearsal one day and he said, there's one actor
in this room, and you ain't it. And he was,
you know, he was right. I hadn't progressed in rehearsal.
It would be like a coach, you know, telling the
player that he wasn't hustling or you know, just wasn't
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he wasn't playing with passion or fill in the blank.
But that type of care and love and energy for
me made me a better actor. And now we're living
in times where people are you know, they're handing out
participation trophies and people are holding each other hostage with
their feelings, and you know, the first order of the
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day is diversity instead of being competent. It's a it's
just these are but it's a new day downing. It's
a new day downing. And that can transition perfectly into
my stand up. See what I did there, guys, love
this I got you. Don't worry about it. You guys,
just sit back and have another light and shut the
fuck up.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
This is easy. This is easy work for us.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You talked about you talking about your your parents being
you know, your acting coaches. My dad was my coach
growing up in minor hockey.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
And I mean, I how many how many years did
you play pro?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Thirteen years? I retired two years ago, yeah, thirteen years.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
So he did a good job.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh he was Listen.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I had a long of those, a lot of those
car rides home after a game where he just turned
around and very similar to what you said, just said, there's.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Two people that gave an effort in that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There's one person that gave an effort in this car
and it's me driving this car, not you in the
back seat. And but I mean, I'm so grateful to
have had that and to be so close and it
made me so close with my dad, and you know,
talk about you know, our sinceres condolences to the passing
of your mother. Joyce, who's I mean just founded the
Pivot Theater, one of the great acting coaches in Chicago,
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And I mean I just wanted to ask, like, having
my dad as a coach, and then your mother, who
read a lot of lines with you and and up
until she passed, Like, how much fun was that Looking
back on that, and also when you were in the
moment of just being able to share those moments with
your mother and your parents.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
It was great. It was fun. I mean, the reality
is she'd run these lines with me, and I joke
on stage that I would say, I do lines with
my mom. I mean, I run lines with my mom.
Don't do lines with your mom, kids, you know. Then
I do this whole bit about snorting cocaine with your
mom and what that would be like. You know, She's like,
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we have to clean up before the cleaning lady gets here.
Let's start a band. I'm like, let's do less cocaine. Mom, No,
I run lines with their No. She It was incredible
because it just, you know, it was you always have
to be ready. You have to be ready, and the
whole thing about filming is and there's something special about it.
There's nothing that I did that was special. I just
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did my job. But not everyone does the job, as
you guys know, not everyone does their job. That's a
whole other That's the story for another day. Off camera
with one hundred and sixteen adult beverage. But I digress perfect,
Oh yeah, perfect. So my mom would say the readiness
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is all and it's true, like you have to know
your lines inside and out. So I would just run
them with her, run or run and run like a play,
so that when I would show up for like Entourage
from take one, I've already It's kind of like I'm
in week three of a play where you've already done it.
It's in your bones. You're not reaching for the lines.
You're totally present, and you could be in a state
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of play and make it look improvisational and easy, which
is why people think I'm already gold and I'm a
piece of shit, and the reality is I'm just a
stage actor from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We'll get into the stand up comedy again.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You gotta see Jeremy performing, as he'll be out there everywhere,
hopefully across this country. You see a stand up But
we do want to talk a little hockey and talk
a little Chicago Blackhocks.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Hold of before we talk, sorry, brother, before we talk
black Hawks. Yeah, I'm going to be at in I'm
here in Santato at the Yeah, I'm going to be
there all weekend so people come out and see me.
As much as I just wanted to see your adorable faces,
I also want to talk about you know what I'm
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doing this weekend. I hate to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I please be that guy.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Because my wife saw you you stand up in Tempe, Arizona,
about a year and a half ago, two years and
absolutely raved about and loved it. Oh nice, she's a
she's an actress, loves does Broadway, loves plays, loves your career,
and went and saw you and wanted to and said, Ship,
that is some daunting stuff to take, you know, stand
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up comedy on. And and so you're gonna be in
San Antonio and I mean, how has that been, like,
not transitioning but really taking this on? And and I
mean it's hard as ship, Like watching the grind of comedy.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
It feels like such an up and down roller coaster.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yeah, it's for me because I you know, well, first
of all, I don't even know. Maybe you can put
the website up or help kids to get to the
LOL Comedy Club in in San Antonio this weekend. We
have eleven more tickets and it's up to you guys
to sell them.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And pivot, who says, now, come on, there we.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Go, There we go. That's that's what I'm talking about.
I think it's like anything else, it's just really about
the reps. And you know, I get a couple of
hundred shows in a year under my belt. And even
though I've been on stage since I was a kid,
and my background of Second City in Chicago, and I've
been improvising and and writing and rewriting my whole life
to to get in that that headspace and be able
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to For me, the performing isn't the variable. I'm I'm
very comfortable on stage just by home. It's just the
writing is, you know, and and sticking the landing and
going deeper. And what's so great is I can be
watching the Super Bowl and then go, bam, that's a joke.
I'm looking at the Free Palestine protester and he's running
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around the field and I'm going, well, this guy's got
more yards in the entire Kansas City Chiefs, And I'm
going I gotta put that on stage tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know, skating legs.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
You look at this running a hot road out there.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Listen, this is what happens when you get older.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Man.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
You gotta do it fast, like this is how you
know you're getting older. I used to look at a
woman in a short skirt and I'd be like, goddamn,
she's hot, And now I'm like, I wonder if she's cold.
This is the type of polarity that you can expect
at the LOL.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
At the LOL in San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Look Jeremy be and Cleveland at the Agora March twentieth,
Pittsburgh the buy In Theater March twenty first, So there's
definitely opportunity to see.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Oh that's right, I'm going to Pittsburgh. That's a big
hockey town. Tell me about Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Tell him
do your job, bitch.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
How about the commercial and we looked it up when
you had that Detroit Sucks commercial which was in honor
of the Chicago Blackhawks. Mean if fond memories of going
to Chicago Stadium, greatest anthem ever Chris Chellius, who I've
been accused of looking like a little bit talk to me.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Uh well, Chris is the best and he was the
first like hockey player I ever met. Really to be
honest with you, and I because I grew up in
Chicago and I would you know, we were in the theater.
We had a theater company, and we got Chris to
his first play. He came and saw John Cusack directed
me and in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
And it was just imagine, like I'm playing a character
that's you know, tripping on five sheets of high power
blatter acid and just imagine that film on stage or.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That you're playing Hunter s Thompson.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
No, Billy Cusack. His brother was like, I was playing
Hector Isida Costa, his attorney, his Samoan attorney. And you know,
Chris is like, oh, well, you guys did a real
nice job. Like he uh he thought.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Waspsis of the movie was really good. It's interesting.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Yeah yeah, oh okay, no, but but you know he
but for you have to understand, this is a play
where we were losing our minds. Like it was just madness.
It was really fun. And so you know he started,
you know, in the Belly of the Beast. But I
used to go and watch Chris play and you know,
you as you guys know, you know, there was no
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one tougher than that guy. I remember one night he
got into a fight and I you know, Chris is
so good that he could make the game make sense
to me, and the way that you know, he was
just a very he was really solid from what he
played twenty years. I don't know what he played his family.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He just didn't like his wife and kids.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, I tell you that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
In the HL. I don't care. Chicago, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh he had a couple of East Coast its his
Him riding the bike in the sauna is the most
legendary thing.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That's how did it for?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Sola rode the bike in the sauna every morning after
twenty beers amazing stuff.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Yeah, I you know what, I bought his house on
Malibu Road and I moved into it. It's the closest
I'll ever get to the Stanley Cup. Good night everyone.
It's true. I swear to God I did. I'm not
making that up.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Do you have any like memorable first time seeing the
Chicago Blackhawks or even like a good memory of attending
a game there or any Chicago sports for that matter.
Being a Chicago boy.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Uh, the games were just it was the Chicago fans
show up, as you know to this day, they're really present.
They love the game, they know the game. You know,
you've got pearl jam blasting, you know, and and the
stadium rocks was the old stadium or the new one.
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And We've had a lot of great teams over the years.
So I've loved it. And you know, the Detroit Sucks
commercial was an honor for me. You know, that was
so fun.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's great.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
But look at I I loved Detroit, you know, That's
what It's very similar to Chicago, Like hard working and
they're they're an underdog and they're making a comeback. They're
crushing the game. But yeah, I uh, Chilli's chilly. I
actually have that sauna and I kept the bike that
he had in there, and I drank a lot of
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bud Lights and just sit on the bike in honor
of him.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's worns for what's for you?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, once again, you can see Jeremy payment this weekend
in San Antonio. Who's coming up in Cleveland March twentieth.
In Pittsburgh March twenty first at the Bay in Theater.
Earlier roles, You're in Heat, one of the great films
of all time. You got to share a scene with
Bob Denero be directed by Michael Man.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
It was incredible? You have to understand. I did forty
movies before Entourage, and that was one of them. And
you sit in the in the waiting room, you know,
preparing to do your role, and you know, I'm playing
doctor Bob and I have almost no lines, but I'm
gonna hang in there. And so it's really, to be
honest with you, it's about who can hold on and
not crack, because they'll make you wait some times one hour,
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two hours, three hours. And I saw an actor crack
and lose his mind and he threw the casting assistant
up against the wall and at that moment they walked
out and they were ready, and so it was just crazy,
you know. And so I just knew if I hung it,
if you hang in there, you get to go toe
to toe with de Niro, and I did. And all
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the roles that I did Rush Hour to or whatever,
my lines were like may I help you? And then
so I bring So I'm like, let's put a mocha China,
Let's put a dead animal out of you. Butter cream,
butter cream, cracked skin, butter cream, what's splow the waste
mystery meat?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You know, and jet but heat is great. You're pushing
back against de Niro. He's like, take off your shirt,
like like my daughter gave me the shirt.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Take off your shirt.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Yeah that that none of that scripted. But when you
I just keep talking. I keep talking. And that's how
I you know, just kind of make you know, take
a scrap and make a meal out of it and
explore and heighten. And they're usually angry at me on
the day, but then you know, it makes it in
the film, and you know, everybody wins. I just wanted
to be ready and really like and I wanted to
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see what it was like to improvise with de Niro.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Jeremy Piven has been incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Make sure you watch his performance in the performance and
also Stephens stand up san Antonio this week is also
going to be in many places, as I mentioned, Pittsburgh
coming up momentarily. And by the way, JD, you and
I both in Jersey. I asked, is Jeremy coming to Jersey?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
He is not. Is he coming to New York? He
is not. But all but in New York.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So maybe me and JD take a the Trojan we
go check out Jeremy Piven do some stand up.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I mean, why why am I not going to New York.
I mean, what's so interesting? I mean, my booker has
me here at the rusty fucking chuckle Bucket in a
goddamn mall next to the fucking daven Busters, you know.
And I'm not going to New York where all my
fans are all the Jews back them in. That's good thinking.
(35:12):
Let's send them to des Moines, Iowa and play fucking
behind a dumpster with a fucking hairnet on. How about that?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, you know what they say, if you can play
des Moines, you can play anywhere.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Well, I don't want to play du Moines. How about that?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
This is a lot, right. I can't wait to see
you man.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
You should be going. I should be playing the Beacon Theater.
You know what I mean? I should be playing you know,
let's go. What are we doing? Were achieving?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Live show? Unscripted?
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Man, with Jeremy Piven at the Beacon Theater?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
How great would that be?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Oh you do? You do kind of look like Shelley.
Well listen, thank you guys. I appreciate it. I'll see
you on the next one.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Awesome.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Can you pencil me in for the twelfth of Never?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
This is great?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Man, I'll see you guys soon, all right, Cinophon sixty
Apparently Tao, I mean, just has got better things to do.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Same with JD.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
These guys will not watch The Brutalist. I've been from
them weeks and weeks. I guess I'll post put it
one more week. What the hell, no problem. Next week
was going to be Cinophon sixty Oscar Preview edition because
next we'll come at you the twenty six. The Oscars
is March second, So what the hell, We'll postpone The
Brutalist one more week to at.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Least jackasses actually watched the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
But we still have some guy Piers conversation because he's
making the rounds. He's nominated for Best Supporting Actor, deservedly,
so I've sat on record that's one of the best
nominations of the year. He's up for Best Sporting Actor,
first ever Oscar nomination. But JD's making news. He's on
which is one of my favorite podcasts, The Hard Reporter
podcast hosted by Scott Finberg. I just listened to great
director James Mangold. I know, tell Loves and walked the
(37:07):
line cop Land Heavy great stories, and he's talking, of course,
and he's nominated for a complete no that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Bop Ylla movie.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
But the next podcast that popped up from a Man
Feinberg was Guy Pierce The Brutalist, And before I had
even started listening to it, today, crushing the elliptical here
at the Sheraton Hotel, ready to get my swerve on
here at the Universal Studios, JD fires up the clip
which has been making the rounds, excerpted from this interview
with Scott, and I want to hear it in its
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all entirety.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
I did that thing that I think a lot of
a lot of people do. I don't want to use
the word victim, because I, even though I probably was
a victim to a degree, I was certainly not a
victim by any means to the extent that other people
have been to sexual predators. But I did that thing
that you do where you brush it off and go,
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oh no, that's nothing. Oh no, no, that's nothing. And
I did that for you know, five months, and really
sort of you know, I was scared of Kevin because
he was quite he's quite an aggressive man and quite
extremely charming and brilliant at what he does, and you know,
impress really impressive, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
So he he you know, he holds a room remarkably.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
But I was young and you know, susceptible, and he
targeted me, no question.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Now he makes it clear.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
He says he didn't you know, harashm didn't assault me
the way other people.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But he said that he was sexually harassed by him.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Hollywood monster, two time offscording scum back Kevin Spacey is
how he's been referred to, and Pierce is empathizing with
Spacey's victims.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But more to that, JD.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Before I touched to the baton space He's come a
fire and back, Hey, offside, I didn't know anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
You got a problem, Come take up with me. Stop
bespirching me. I've been acquitted.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Kevin Spacey was acquitted of sexually assaultly nine people.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Where are you on Pierce versus Spacey?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Well, didn't a couple of those people mysteriously vanish that
had sued him. I mean, listen, I'm team guy Pierce.
I mean it's come out that it's come out many
times that Kevin Spacey's a douchebag and and is very
handsy and and uh yeah, I mean he he was
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at the Florida Panthers game. When he did the Spacey
and space and ended up going out to the bar
with the guys after the game. And I won't name
the names of the guys, but he was handsy with
some of the guys at the bar. Yeah, and I'm
not saying that just to say it. It's and I
won't say any guys. And hey, listen, might they might
have just been and just a preface this, they might
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have just been, you know, they might just been hanging out.
And it was fun banter back and forth, and it
was speak he'll grab ass little locker room jive. But
that's what I heard. So and Guy Pierce coming out
and getting choked up. And but now that everything's come
out and he found he probably didn't know about all
these other victims and then finds out, so now he
gets choked up because he probably stayed silent and thought
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he was alone. And then he has all these people
he can kind of, you know, eve with in a
sense and mourn with, because that's up. That is the
traumatic thing that happened. So I'm team Guy Pearson. The
fact that Kevin Spacey came on and did a video
is come on, man, with being like, don't be the
victim or whatever he was saying, like, come on, that's
that's insane. Guy's probably scared and he's Oscar nominated scared.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Kayser suss usual suspects, I mean unbelievable in Glenn Garry
Glen Rods.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
If you can separate the art from the artist.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
He's a great actor, but he's obviously a horrific human being,
even if he.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Says it's all a legend.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
David Airs is the opposite of that wonderful guy coming
up after this. That's right, the fifth anniversary of the
ebug one of the great moments ever. And how about
that segue, Kevin Spacey to David Airs. February twenty second
marks the five year anniversary of the night this man
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became an overnight legend when he dresses the Carolina Hurricanes
emergency backup goalie against the Toronto Maple Leafs and, at
age forty two, became the oldest goaltender to win his
NHL debut.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Not only did he get the win that night, but
he was named the.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Games first Star and was declared Honore's Citizen of the
State of North Carolina. That appeared on shows like The
Today Show and The Late show with Stephen Colbert. It
is amazing. Welcome David Airs, NHL on the script is great.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
To see you man.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Guys, how has life been for the last five years
since you became a household name if done across the
sports with at least in the hockey.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
World, definitely different. I mean five years. It doesn't even
seem like five years, to be honest, but make me
feel old now I'm in forty seven. Now this is ridiculous,
But five years I get.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
Almost every single day I crossed the border a lot
for work in the Border guards. Almost every single time
I see one of the guys, he points at me,
He's like, you're that guy, and you get like a
you get a Leafs fan that doesn't really like it,
and or you get guys like I hate the Leaves.
This is great, it's so awesome type of thing. But
it's still like, every every day I come across somebody
who knows the story or you know, once they hear
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my name or see me, they recognize me.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
So it's still kind of cool. But yeah, five years
long time.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Doesn't that just show how bad Leaves fans are that
they would just be mad at you.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
You know what, I've had some some pretty uh some
angry ones.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's some really cool ones.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
I mean there's uh, there's some there's some mangerins where
it's like, I can't believe you did that. You owe
me a TV. I broke my TV. A couple of
my buddies actually say that all the time. I broke
my TV, you owe me, you owe me a new one.
And I'm like, man, I'm just trying to do my
job there, trying to survive, and those got those elite
shooters on you. You only want to do is survive
out there and not look like an idiot.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
So I mean you, I mean you didn't like how
was it take us through that game a little bit?
I know you've probably talked about it at nausea, but
it's always fun to bring it up. And you know,
your friends right now that said they broke their TV.
I hope you don't talk to him anymore because that's
just that's awful. But how how was it in the game,
And like, you know, talk about the lead up to
it and and remind like the fans, the new listeners
(43:00):
here that that are listening to our show just about
that whole day and and how everything came to be.
Speaker 11 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean a lot of kind of the way
it works for me is everyone's like you're the zamboni guy,
Like they dragged me off the zamboni and threw me
a net, And it was completely opposite. I mean, to
be the emergency goalie, you have to have, you know,
some sort of a contract with the NHL to be
the emerency goalie in that building. And I was one
of a couple. But you know, that was my day
and it was scheduled, so I already knew that I
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was going in that day, and you know, did my
workouts and stuff like that during the day, and you
kind of just put your gear in the truck and
you go down to the to the rink and.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
You sit there in the stands.
Speaker 11 (43:37):
Every time I went there, I think I did I
don't know, over one hundred games in total over three years,
and I did. I would just stand in the same spot,
section three seventeen in the standing room section. I would
just stand there, and that was my spot for the
whole time I was there. But I mean, you just
go to the rink as if you're just gonna go
watch a game.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
You don't ever think that you're going in And.
Speaker 11 (43:59):
That's the third time that year actually that I had
to get dressed. So I got dressed for tru all
before that in Detroit, kind of close to the beginning
of the year. So you just go there and get
half your stuff on and you watch the game.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
And you go home.
Speaker 11 (44:10):
So I figured that's just another day. It's just what's
going to happen, right, And uh, well, I ends up
going in the game, and it was a whole different
day than I actually expected it to be, So I
can't complain.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And go ahead.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Thanks you, you famously lan in a couple of quick
goals against Toronto. Things turned out okay. But how did
you steady yourself mentally?
Speaker 11 (44:31):
Yeah, I thought it was going I thought I was
going down hard after two on two, like that's not
I looked up and I'm like, this is gonna be bad,
Like this isn't good at all. I mean, lucky, I know,
I know a lot of the guys in the least
and then I'm sure they kind of took it easy
on you when they had the chance to rip one
on me, which I'm thankful for.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
You know, being on the ice of them every day.
Speaker 11 (44:51):
They light me up all the time, so I mean,
thank thankfully they didn't.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Make me look like an idiot on national TV. But uh,
you know, you just kind of it's one.
Speaker 11 (45:00):
Of those things you just kind of go into that
game and your goal is what you've done your whole life,
and you let it in two goals, and the guys
come up to me and say, you know what, we
don't care if you let in ten. This is your
chance to be on the ice with NHL guys. Enjoy it,
have fun with it, right. And I got to the
intermission with with James Rymer came and sat beside me,
and he was kind of half dressed still because they
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weren't sure how bad I was going to be, and
he was actually maybe just gonna go back in and
try it.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
Even though he had a knee injury. But he sat
with me and he's like, look, this is what you do.
You're a goalie. You stop pucks. Just try and get
rid of everything else around you and just make some.
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Saves out they're and have fun with it, right. I
mean easy for him to say. The guy's got almost
I don't know how many games he's got in the NHL,
in so many years, But that actually helped really calm
me down for him sitting with me and telling me,
you know, just be yourself.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
How fun play the game. That's what calmed me down
for the third period.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That's incredible. I mean, you become instantly a part of
the team, and that's so cool that he did that. Now, afterwards,
in the flurry of doing all the TV shows and
getting people reaching out out to you, was there anything
that was really like really special to you, like one
of the shows you went on or one of the
appearances you made.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah, I think the New York trip that I did.
Speaker 11 (46:14):
It was on the Monday, I think I did I
don't know, twenty seven or twenty five interviews in that morning,
and we were supposed to be done by I think
two thirty and then fly out to Carolina that night.
And I didn't realize how big the Today Show and
how many people watch the Today Show.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
So I was on there a lot. It was at
the time. The PR guy for Carolina. He came with me,
and he.
Speaker 11 (46:36):
Just wanted to make sure, you know, I wasn't saying
anything I shouldn't say, or you know, he just kind
of lead me in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
He was awesome.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
But he's like, do you realize how many people watch
the Today Show? And I was like, no, man, I'm Canadian.
I don't necessarily watch the Today Show. And so he
was showing me all the kind of viewers and whatnot,
and we ended up going to do that one I
think it was a Fox Sports And then at the
end of the day we were supposed to leave, we
got a call from the Stephen C.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
Bear Show. They just said, Hey, I heard you're in town.
You want to come over and do.
Speaker 11 (47:08):
Like a little skit with us, and let's do it
like I that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Put to your point, David, do you think the current
e buke system is the best option for the NHL
when goalies get hurt?
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (47:19):
I mean I know now that a lot of the
teams have practice goalies. When I was with the with
the Marleys and the Least for that year, I did
a lot of the practices that kind of you know,
it's a lot of leaf practices, a ton of the
mar Lea's practice. I know now they've got two guys
or two or three guys that do the kind of
the job I was doing over those all those seasons, and.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
It makes sense because it wears you out. It's it's tough.
Speaker 11 (47:41):
But the emergency goalies, I think the teams do a
good job kind of scouting the goalies that they want
to do put that position. A lot of them university
kids that are that are good, you know, to have
an extra goalie on the payroll. And as a goalie,
what do you do if you don't play? I mean,
you go out there any practice all the time, but
for some reason you get thrown in as an emergency
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goalie and that's your only job is to practice with
the team.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
It's tough.
Speaker 11 (48:07):
I mean, it's gonna be nerve wracking no matter what,
no matter whether you you know you're with the team
or not, or you like me, I was playing, you know,
with other guys. I was playing in a senior hockey league.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 11 (48:17):
So I was getting some some reps and some games
and under my belt. But it doesn't matter. You're gonna
still be nervous no matter what. And I mean no
other sport has it. Nobody else is.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
You can bring a pitcher in or a quarterback in,
and a.
Speaker 11 (48:30):
Goal is a tough position mentally, you know, that's the
part that's not the physical actual part of the game
that I was worried about. It was the mental part
of it. Is like, I don't want to look like
an idiot out here and make myself look bad and
make the Leafs who chose me to be in that
role make them look bad and all that kind of stuff.
So I just wanted to go out there and do
my thing, but mentally, it's you got to keep it together.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
February twenty second, the five year anniversary of Daviers in
the NHL and the Ebug System.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I think you should get a hold of Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Gay, I've already done Colbert five anniversary, Jimmy, how about
I come on your show?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Get it done?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
That would be awesome.
Speaker 11 (49:05):
I mean, those talk shows are great, those guys are hilarious.
I mean, there's a lot of, you know, cool people
that I would still love to meet. But I mean
we're doing a few a few things. I mean, now
that's five years kind of people are remembering it, so
I'm it got a few wheels turning, So we're doing
a few fun things.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
So I'm just kind of be cool to bring it.
Speaker 11 (49:25):
Back, uh, bring it back around and kind of everyone
you know it has a good story right now that
you know, the world kind of divides itself a little.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Bit, So it would be a good idea to have
some more feel good stories out there.
Speaker 11 (49:37):
And if you have to kind of go back and
reminisce on that one, and hopefully no one breaks TV's
this time, but they.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Would be it'd be kind of cool. Yeah, it'd be
kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Just to those guys.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Yeah, that's right, all right, And so.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Maybe it's like a parting shot. You're an edging the script.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
What's good to David Airs, who's a wonderful guy.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Awesome interview, And Matt Doug Ruis is a former colleague
of mind from MLB Network. I'm sure Jad saw I'm
in the hall but once in a while high heat.
But that's off, which is deserved because he had an
awful take on the four Nations I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's been resounding pajuries.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I don't understand anyone's not a hockey fan not liking this,
You're not a sports fan not liking this, But Mad
Doug himself revealed that he said, I'm not a hockey officionado,
but I'm a sports aficionado.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
So that's like, I don't know hockey, let's go, I said,
While I'm not much of a horse racing guy, but
i know sports, I'm like, okay, go ahead, yeah and
all that works.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
But okay, So he.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Said basically that Candy was saying game was a disappointment
because he said the fights were premeditated and not right,
and he also said the third period was lame because
Cana didn't have many scoring chances.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Jadie, that's a terrible take. That was a great game.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
You know, you mentioned Mad Doug before in the show
and you heard me say loser. I don't mean I
don't know him personally, he's a loser take, because yes,
I I personally. It's such a dis sorry, disrespectful shot
at guys that make their living doing this.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
Again, it is part of our sport, it's part of
our culture. It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Hey, you want to have your take, you don't like
the game, But to say these guys premeditated and do
WWE stuff, which again I have a respect for WDV
because they're athletic. They have to put their bodies on
the line. To say that and compare that to something
scripted is absolutely disgusting. To say about any athlete in hockey,
because I've played with a lot of those guys. I
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know a lot of those guys. I've been a guy
that's fought. Not well, but I've been a guy that's fought,
and it is a scary thing fighting on skates, your
helmet off. I've hit my head on the ice from
fighting in something that somebody may have been considered premeditated,
which I think is disgusting to say. There's guys that
are you know, have ct from fighting their whole careers
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and protecting their teammates, making a living for their families.
So for him to say that is absolutely awful. It's
so stupid of him to say. I was sitting next
to Stuve Grimson, who had a hell of a career
over seven games in the NHL, the grim Reaper, one
of the toughest guys, super smart man, very well educated,
got his law degree, fantastic human being, and we're talking
(52:04):
about Uh. It was Ryan Reeves fighting Matthew Olivier. I'm
it was one of those fights where it was very big,
big stage in Toronto, and you know, I turned and
we came off fair, and I said, you know, what
do you think of that, and I said, oh man,
I love these like stage fights between the heavyweights. I
think it's really cool. And he just stops me dead
on air. He goes, would you say, excuse me? Staged? Staged?
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He goes, you think that stage? I said, no, I
didn't mean it like that. I just meant, like these
two guys that are like, hey, are we going to fight?
Are you down to fight? It's for our team, it's
for our pride, it's to get the boys going. And
I said, no, that's what I meant. And he was like, Okay,
make sure you don't say that because if he's like
anybody that says that, like does not understand what this
is and what these guys they put their lives on
the line and they put their health on the line.
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So but I just think it's it's not a good taste. Listen,
sometimes we do as analysts, and he's an aficionado of sport,
I guess minus hockey. But then there's like just saying
something inflammatory. To say something inflammatory. Also, he doesn't understand
hockey because that game was a defensive masterclass and that
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is something that hasn't been seen. That was John Tortorella
putting together a perfect game plan that stymied Canada. It
was a very physical hockey game. A lot of guys
got injured from that. Couple guys at surgery from that game.
Charlie McAvoy, so to say that guy guys cared so
much to play that game and played it well, and
it was a great, great hockey game.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
It had a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Had some offense, had defense, had goaltending, had fighting.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
So yeah for him, and it was all for country.
I just think it was.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
It was just an It was an awful, awful take
and just to say something, to say something to get
clicks is is stupid.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It had defense, it had goaltending, it had fights. And
we're hoping to have mad Dog Russo on NHL's Unscripted
in the weeks to come.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
So yeah, I'd love to talk to him about it.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
I agree, he's the type, doesn't look like he wants
to back up for an arguments.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
That's great. No, he's probably gonna argue.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Let's go. I look forward to it, mad Dog. The
floor is yours, love to I love most of it.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Take I'll press this saying I like a lot of
us take off.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, I like them on base He's a baseball ficionado
right on basis, clearly not hockey. But you can't say
sports aficionado but not via hockey. Fishing outa that's a
that just doesn't work. This doesn't work, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I'm a movie at fishingado, but I don't watch movies.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Right the movie fish. I just don't watch horror movies.
What does Happen to You? Gets you discut an entire genre.
I can't get them on the substance. Okay, fair enough,
this was a ton of fun. Thanks for checking out Scripted.
That was still twelve in the books.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 9 (54:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
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E's di herse On Burke once again. This is Unscripted,
Episode twelve, coming at Joe. Thanks once again the NHL
and I Hear for letting us do this. Jad. We
got lots to talk about. Jeremy Piven. This is a
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laughed riot. He's going to stand up tour, that's right.
The Emmy Award winning actor from Entourage. He also is
a great dramatic performance in a film called The Performance.
He's a huge Chicago Blackhawks fan. Tell some great Christellio stories.
He's fabulous cinephile. In sixty Guy Piers taking shots at
Kevin Spacey because I'm pretty sure you and Teal did.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not watch The Brutalists. So after that, reveal my own.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But we are talking Guy Pierce at least, and of
course we are discussing what is going on with the
Four Nations and David Ears remember him five year anniversary
of an Ebug of All Time, having said that though
we want to start with an am I wrong? Nothing
we love more than this segment here and unscripted, the
floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, hello everybody, Well this am I wrong segment where
we're testing this thing out. Uh, it happened to just
fall in my lap, probably an hour and a half
before we recorded this. So we're at the Whole Foods
in New Jersey. We're going, me and my wife are
going trying to get some food for tonight, and we're looking.
My wife's looking for pesto. She's looking for pesto. She's like,
I just want some pre made stuff. Let's do it quick,
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you know, we don't need to like just be fussing around.
It's gonna be too late. So we walk around. Finally
we can't find it. After five seven minutes. My wife goes,
I'm just gonna ask the guy that works here. So
she asks the guy that works there Wan and she
he's bent down and he's stocking the shelves, and we go, hey,
excuse me, sir, do you know where the pesto is?
And he looks at us blank five seconds, blank stare,
turns looks at my wife and he just goes, I
(01:47):
think we're sold out. Wow, and my wife and then
my wife goes sold out, like of like the really
popular kind, like this vegan pesto that's really good. I
was looking for goes he goes, yeah, I just it's crazy.
He's like crazy, it's sold out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So we're like all right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So we start walking away and we're like, hey, like
what then, what are we going to cook with?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
What are we gonna make?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We proceed to walk about ten to twenty paces, and
in front of us, much to our surprise, is a
whole row shelf a pestle.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So this guy just I'm picturing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like a cardboard cutout like literally fifty pestos.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Here, unlikably on sale, like different kinds, different brands. And
we look at each other and it's one of those
things you're both like did he not know and just
purposely lie? Or did he know and just like didn't
care to tell us.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, it's the first one he doesn't know, And rather
than say honestly, I'm not sure and be viewed as
potentially incompetent, he lied and goes, oh, we don't have it,
like really, but yeah, it's all gone.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I guess yeah, So I guess My question of
that is like, if you do not know, do you
just lie and omit the truth that you have no
idea where anything is and just say yeah, just so.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Right, now his anterwest right, because if you report it him,
if you go ask, hey, what kind of an employee
have here?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Like this guy doesn't even know what he's doing here,
Like I don't know, like what.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I report?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Wouldn't I report him more to Hold Foods Corporate that
he just cost them a sale, but we did end
up buying it, so home jokes on us we end
up buying.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But tell he's a similar situation.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Like this, right. This was in New York some time ago.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I was in a Best Buy and I asked, you know,
someone working there for help. Immediate response, sorry, I'm on
my lunch break and walked off. And I looked at
the time and it was nine thirty in the morning.
So this guy just didn't want to work.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I didn't even like that.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I think that's where the pesto was. I didn't ask
him where the pesto was. I just to help me,
can you help me? And there's response was I'm on
my lunch break. Sorry, And it was the tap back
of the lunch hour.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
A somebody would ask you for directions, you have to
actually listen to them. Take a left right there, take
a right at the corner store, there's a gravel road.
Now with Google Maps, it's okay, But if you could
give false directions, will you will you just tell someone
that it's kind of in that area.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, I mean if I have a general idea, yeah,
that I'll be I'll tell him. I'll officit by saying
I don't know street signs, but you know, it's kind
of like you know, twenty paces and under the right
and then maybe the left.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's kind of in that it's about northeast.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You gotta come on, I love directions.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Just go go west about five miles and then go
where the I don't know where the fuck I am
right now, even though we're going for west.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Look pioneer? Do I like a butter and I can
tell with the sun where north is. Look at me,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Know, Well, the sun's over your left shoulders, so you
should north northwest. That that pisses me off. That people
even know that pisses me off. But anyway, yeah, that's
kind of just just Google Maps. But yeah, the what
I when I was leaving the store, I looked at
my wife and I said, I want to follow this
guy now because I want to know if like he
even works here. Like it's like I want to see
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wand and sit down Tom. I want to sit with
him and be like, hey, Wan, yeah, hey, the Pesta
wasn't sold out, So why did you lie to me?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Just tell me why?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I agree?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Like, I'm not gonna porch. This just's bro to bro, Like,
I'm just like, what what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm not anyway he would.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Have lied again, he was honestly, I had no idea.
I guess we just got that in there. I'm like,
you are lying.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Through your teeth.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
This is unbelievable. You just compose a liar. You're actually
your job of your liar.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, you're great anyway, and we're off all right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So that's where am I wrong? Swing.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's with the actual hockey, the US and Canada playing
tonight in Boston. Four Nason's faced off title on the line,
three one US win on February fifteenth, and it was
an unbelievable game, there's no question. But despite what Matt
doug Russo had to say, we'll get to that in
just a second.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Use this show here, but I will.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Say this, Jenny again, three Canadians here, all of you
in America I'm very let's say, squamish. I'm concerned. I mean,
I can't wait for the game. I hope, I hope
Canada wins. We delivered. But one thing that's been interesting
is people look at these numbers and again we'll get
to the sports in just a second, the actual game,
but four point four million Americans watch, which is a
gigantic number for hockey and America huge, but also right right,
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four point four dude, that's great mill of February. But
Canada got a five point seven fifteen percent of our
population watched this game.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So if you look at America three or thirty eight million, whatever,
his points are a one bottom. Liize this.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
For Americans it's a big deal and for us it's
always a big deal. What's gonna be the key to
Canada winning tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, in the first matchup, it was a defensive masterclass
by the USA hockey team, specifically Jacob Slavin and Brock Faber.
They ate up a ton of big minutes. They frustrated
the Canada ought uh, sorry that they frustrated the Canada attack.
Canada got really frustrated, started throwing pucks into the middle,
played a little bit too individually, and just played a
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little too cute. And I think for them to win
this game, they're gonna have to really rely on making
it more chaotic in front of Connor Hellibuck, because Connor Hellibuck,
if he sees it, he's gonna stop it. And if
he's getting a little bit of guys in his face,
pucks and bodies in his face, a little bit more
desperation on the offense, it's gonna bode better for the
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Canadian team. So you know, the USA, I thought played
a perfect game. Now they're a little banged up going
into the second game where I think Canada's finding their stride,
albeit they almost blew that against Finland. But for this
game tonight, it's listen, you you have your top guys
are gonna have to be your top guys. It's one game,
it's a game seven. This is what guys dream of
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to play in a hockey game like this, to be
that it's a legacy game, to be that guy, to
be the hero. And I just think one on one,
one game a game seven. There's a lot of guys
I like on the Canadian team, but it's gonna be
tough because you know, you look at the Kachucks. They've
had a fantastic tournament. They're a little banged up, but
these guys, He's American team and they believe.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
The belief is high.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They have a lot to play for, Johnny Gudreau, a
lot of other things, the pride of USA. I'm a
little upset that Donald Trump isn't going.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He said he would not be attending, even though we had,
you know, our lame duck Prime Minister Justin trudeaugo, which hey, listen,
he went, so credit to him for doing something to
support Cannon in his tenure. So one thing he did right,
and the whole goddamn tenure in foot of loser anyway.
But Trump's not coming, so that helps the Canadians. So
we're we're cooking in Boston. Him not going, uh, but
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I yeah, I just think it's gonna be very And
here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
We didn't have Cale mccarr. Cale mccarr's back. Now.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now obviously USA didn't have Quinn Hughes and they beat us,
but Quinn Hughes is not going to play in this
game as well. So we have Cale mccarr. It's gonna
be a big difference maker. And Connor Hellibuck versus Jordan Bnnington.
One game face off.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Very simplistic, right, goaltending, got shit? They got us in
the goaltending. Yeah, second goal, but he to give up.
I know I'm only looking at one goal, but I'm
like that, that's what.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Of course, pause, he's let off, He's let in a
couple of softies. But a game seven, I want the
chip on his shoulder. I want that cockiness of Jordan Binnington.
And this is a big moment for Connor Hellibuck. He's
showed that he can play in these big games.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He's also shows pooped the bed in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But that's the thing, so this could be this is
the moment, So how do we get there? It needs
to be more chaos in front of him. He's been
way too comfortable this time. Credit to the defense of
Team USA, but now they're losing. Charlie McAvoy who goes out.
He has that surgery, which is scary for the Boston
Bruins fan. I heard Bruins are pissed. I was listening
to Elliott Friedman talk Bruins are pissed because it was
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kind of misdiagnosed and he should not. He was hurt
in that Finland game and should not have played against Canada,
but played anyway, got shot up. I'm sure with some nice,
nice druggy papoos that would have helped him get through
it in the nerve blocking.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Region.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So I think it sucks because you don't want to
see the one thing I said about the tournament, I
just don't want to see any major injuries, you know,
and this is probably the most severe I want to
see being comfortable with this tournament moving forward.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So Candy USA has been a great rivalry, certainly in
women's hockey. We're now seeing it in the U West,
and as you mentioned, even politically with Trump and the
terrorist and all the rest of it. Just imagine that
reception that Boston crowd's gonna give oh Canada. That could
be interesting. But you touched on the injuries here, jad Quinn.
He was out McAvoy as you mentioned, the Kachucks are
nursing injuries.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Say Theodore is out week to week. Now, is there
a way we can do this?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, they've already announced a World Cup tournament in
February of twenty twenty eight. I don't think there is,
because before I ask you the question, but I think
there is there's a way you can tell hockey players, hey,
just play at sixty percent, like no what you're playing
for your country. Like you saw immediately the intensity level
that Canadas Sweden game. We talked about last week, the speed,
the passion of the hits, et cetera, the fights, and
Canny will say, I don't think you can tell guys
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that let up. But as you said it also correctly,
the drawback is it's unfortunately, there's going to be injuries.
I don't know what the answer is. I don't think
there's an answer. If you're gonna play best on best,
guys are gonna get hurt unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I think it's really black and white. I think
the only other sport where you see this much pride
in these games is baseball. But it's no physicality to
it in the sense of there's no hitting. You know,
the pitchers love it, the teams want to win the
World Cup of Baseball. Is that it's called the World
Cup of Bad Baseball. Yeah, w peah, and and that
that's electric factory and for all intensive purposes. It's probably
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the only other sport that you see the pride come
out in these games. And guys forget that. Hey, I
don't care if I blow my arm out or I
don't care if I get hurt. I'm winning this game
because playing for your country. You heard Brandon Hagel talk
about it. You know, we're playing for flags, baby, we
all playing for flags in Canada.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I just don't think there's a way around it.
You can't you know, and you can't say put it
in the summer, because you guys, it's a hard enough
for ant it is. Yeah, the summer's off. You can't
do it at the start of the season because then
you're setting guys up for the season. It has to
be at this point of the year. It's the only
way around it, and it's either all in or all out.
I think with this, I don't think there's a way
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to sugarcoat it and be like, hey, let's baby, these guys, you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Know, no hitting or whatever you do.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Flag football, like football does is garbage. So I just
think it's really going to be something that the league
looks at and you kind of as an ownership of
teams and gms of teams, you just got to kind
of grit your teeth and give it the old. Please
don't get hurt, Please don't get hurt every game, and
hope they have fun.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
We'll get to our guest Jeremy Piven in just a
second last topic though, speaking of the passion of NHL
players versus the lack of passion the NBA All Star Game.
Our buddy PK suban you've hosted Coast to Coach with
him Andy Patrello on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
PK went on ESPN and said, hockey's.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
A different sport from the NBA. You can't compare the
cultures because of the way the game is played. You
can step on an NBA floor and go through the emotions.
You can't do that in hockey. You can't like the
culture of our sport. You have to play it with passion.
You have to be willing to fight, you have to
be willing to leave it on the ice. That's what
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fans are investing in. So for us, when we charge
fifteen hundred dollars for a ticket to come to Fortit,
fans know what they're getting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Again, I don't mean to be that guy Schirp in
the NBA, but if you've ever seen a greater di comedy, people,
what hockey all is all about and that intensity versus
the lame mass NBA All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh, that was pathetic to watch that. I would love
to see the viewership. If anything, it was pathetic. And no, listen,
nothing against them, it's you. Listen to Kevin Durant. He
tweeted just today talking about retweeted yesterday just talking about
how he said, hey, listen, like maybe we just scrapped
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the All Star Weekend because everybody's complaining and guys don't
try hard enough. And I'm like, that's you, guys. You
guys aren't trying hard enough. That's what's causing the problems
in the complaining. And then somebody's clapped back at him
and he just went, well, go watch hockey then, because
they seem to care a lot, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Are you eating me?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
There's no other sport where they could just openly shit
on the fans, and the fans are like, here's my money,
here's my money.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Load, It's just load.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And listen, I've said it on multiple of these of
these episodes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Get your paper booboo.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm like, if you can find a way to hack
the system, head, good for you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I give you the golf clap.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But for Canon, what makes me prideful to be a
guy who played in the NHL and representing his country
is the fact that we could put that all aside
and there's no friends. You could be playing with guys
on your same team and then you play against them
because they're from a different country, and there's such a
melting pot of guys and it's just balls to the wall.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Guys just sacrifice themselves. This is middle of the season.
You're not getting paid for this. Yes there's a bonus
at the end, but you are not getting your your
predetermined contract. You are getting a bonus if you win
as a team. The way these guys lay their their
their bodies on the line, it's just it gives me chills.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It gives me.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Clammy paws in my hands just thinking about it, talking
about it and watching these guys, it makes me I said,
I said it a couple of times in the last
few days.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
This has been one of the only things that's made
me want.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
To come back as a player, to experience that feeling
again of just the buzz, the hum, the fans, the country,
the people like it's just this is what makes hockey
so great and This is also a magnifying glass of
what makes basketball so great is that they don't truly
care about It's very much an individual sport, even though
you're within a team. It's very individualistic the culture of it.
(15:12):
And I was sitting with somebody yesterday for lunch and
they told me something pretty interesting. They said they were
like the NBA All Star Game and specifically the sport
has really started to change since Kobe's passed. Since Kobe
was gone, the culture's tried to change because he kind
of moved the bus. Jordan as well was doing that,
but Kobe was the guy that took the mantle. Then
(15:32):
after that, how do you expect Like PK said it perfectly,
and I love what he said, how do you expect
Lebron's that, I'm out, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I don't need to play it.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And credit to him, he's created a monster franchise around
himself and and he's created this brand that's synonymous with
him and his lifestyle. But again, people follow that, and
then all the players follow that. There's no accountability anymore.
Guys don't hold each other accountable. And then I just
feel like Kobe's been a huge missing piece in terms
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of culture within the NBA and and gamers. So it's
sad to see that Durant would even say that because
I'm a big proponent. You've heard me talk about it before.
I nan of respecting the fans because without them there's
no money. Yeah, without them, there's no money. The viewership
is what drives money, drives brand deals, it drives ratings,
it drives TV deals. It's the fans that show up,
(16:23):
So you have to this is something for them, for
your country. You have to show up and show out,
and it just hasn't been the case. So, like I
said before, it's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, honestly, the Four Nations has been a reselding success
for everybody except for one person, mad Dog Russo Well
Getsu was commented a little bit later on. But first,
Jeremy Piven is coming up after this break a Blackhawks fan,
a Chris Chellios guy. The performance is a terrific new film.
He has that stand up comedy. You're gonna love this interview.
He's really funny. PIV on the way, What a pleasure
(17:04):
to break an Emmy Award winning act of the long
list of memorable performances and film and television to his credit,
He's done all on every screen, now ventured out in
the cutthroat world of stand up comedy. As if that
wasn't enough, his latest film, The Performance, has earned him
some of the best reviews of his career.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's absolutely fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Great to talk to Jeremy pivot again, a previous guest
on to the Foul and here An NHL in script, Jeremy,
great to see him.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Man, how you been?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Is there any way you could say that faster?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I've been accused of talking far too fast, but I
can give it one more take if you want.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Uh No, No, it was literally perfection. He's a pro, consummate,
an absolute pro.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Man.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I'm blown away. Yeah, okay, guys, thank you. I think
we did it. I think that was it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Speaking of perfection, the performance is unbelievable. Listen, man, Honestly,
I watched my wife and we were blown away. And
and I didn't know much about the original Arthur Miller's story.
I did not know the gravitas and the dramatic chops
you could bring to the story. But I thought you
were phenomenal and quite frankly, a little surprised. Kevin been
getting more awards. Buzz for this performance because it was fabulous.
I know it's a family affair. Tell me, what was
(18:08):
it about the story of that appealed to you and
how it came to be.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
A short story out of the New Yorker my mother
gave to me and I read it and I was
just so blown away by it. And you know, it's
there are a few times in my life where I've
read something and it just hit me and I really
got it, and this was one of them. It's why
we do what we do. I just knew if I
could do this right, it'll make people take pause. And
(18:36):
and you know, ultimately it's about how far how much
of yourself will you compromise in this life to be successful.
And in my character's case, he he hides the fact
that he's Jewish to dance for Hitler. And that's the
moment where all of your listeners turn off. They thought
they were gonna they thought they were gonna see you know,
(18:58):
they wanted to see Chris Chelios. They want to talk listen,
they want to talk about some fights, they want to
hear some Gretzky stories. They don't want to hear an
old Jew talk about anything anything.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But I'll tell you one thing about an audience trument,
and we all listen. We all appreciate a good song
and dance man. So I want to know where did.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
You I'm not I'm not dancing, thank you. I'm not
a song and dance man. I've never been. Just an
actor and a delusional actor who is stupid enough to
to try anything. But you know, and the in the
words of Dave Chappelle, you get paid for the attempt,
(19:39):
do you know what I mean? And so you know
I I I saw the role, and I just knew
it was the role of my life, and it was
It's the best performance of my life. And and I
just thought, if if I could, I could play the drums.
I played the drums my whole life. If I could
transfer the skill from my hands to my feet and
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drum with my feet while learning choreography, then it's game on.
And so that's somehow.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Happened, Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You know, this labor of love took fifteen years, which
is crazy. You know, it took my whole life to
make it to the NHL. And listening to you do
some interviews and talk about how you know, sticking with
it and just being ready for when the opportunity knocks.
But how important is it having your family? You know,
sheer a pivot, your sister was there directing it, and
how was how important was it to have your family
(20:34):
around kind of to keep that resolve through the ups
and downs of fifteen years of trying to get this made.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
My mother, who passed away last week, said to me,
you have to stop telling people the truth because they
don't know where to put it. Think about how heavy
that is. Yeah, And I've been telling people the truth
my whole life. And I don't recommend it to anyone.
I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm telling you, man,
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people will lose their fucking minds.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's cost you relationships.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
It's It's definitely cost me relationships. It hasn't. It almost
cost me jobs. But it might have cost me jobs
because my father was the best actor I knew, and
he was always telling people the truth them people were like,
the fuck are you talking about. He would just tell
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people to their face, like Dad, they can't handle that shit.
And he would. But by the way, here's the irony
of all that. He was my acting teacher since I
was eight my mom as well, and he would while
you know, you know, I respect the fact that you know,
you're a pro player and have that background. And as
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as an actor, I started when I was eight, which
is very similar to pro athletes. And my father gave
me a lot of tough love and and we were
in rehearsal one day and he said, there's one actor
in this room, and you ain't it. And he was,
you know, he was right. I hadn't progressed in rehearsal.
It would be like a coach, you know, telling the
player that he wasn't hustling or you know, just wasn't
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he wasn't playing with passion or fill in the blank.
But that type of care and love and energy for
me made me a better actor. And now we're living
in times where people are you know, they're handing out
participation trophies and people are holding each other hostage with
their feelings, and you know, the first order of the
(22:37):
day is diversity instead of being competent. It's a it's
just these are but it's a new day downing. It's
a new day downing. And that can transition perfectly into
my stand up. See what I did there, guys, love
this I got you. Don't worry about it. You guys,
just sit back and have another light and shut the
fuck up.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
This is easy. This is easy work for us.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You talked about you talking about your your parents being
you know, your acting coaches. My dad was my coach
growing up in minor hockey.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
And I mean, I how many how many years did
you play pro?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Thirteen years? I retired two years ago, yeah, thirteen years.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
So he did a good job.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh he was Listen.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I had a long of those, a lot of those
car rides home after a game where he just turned
around and very similar to what you said, just said, there's.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Two people that gave an effort in that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There's one person that gave an effort in this car
and it's me driving this car, not you in the
back seat. And but I mean, I'm so grateful to
have had that and to be so close and it
made me so close with my dad, and you know,
talk about you know, our sinceres condolences to the passing
of your mother. Joyce, who's I mean just founded the
Pivot Theater, one of the great acting coaches in Chicago,
(23:51):
And I mean I just wanted to ask, like, having
my dad as a coach, and then your mother, who
read a lot of lines with you and and up
until she passed, Like, how much fun was that Looking
back on that, and also when you were in the
moment of just being able to share those moments with
your mother and your parents.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
It was great. It was fun. I mean, the reality
is she'd run these lines with me, and I joke
on stage that I would say, I do lines with
my mom. I mean, I run lines with my mom.
Don't do lines with your mom, kids, you know. Then
I do this whole bit about snorting cocaine with your
mom and what that would be like. You know, She's like,
(24:29):
we have to clean up before the cleaning lady gets here.
Let's start a band. I'm like, let's do less cocaine. Mom, No,
I run lines with their No. She It was incredible
because it just, you know, it was you always have
to be ready. You have to be ready, and the
whole thing about filming is and there's something special about it.
There's nothing that I did that was special. I just
(24:51):
did my job. But not everyone does the job, as
you guys know, not everyone does their job. That's a
whole other That's the story for another day. Off camera
with one hundred and sixteen adult beverage. But I digress perfect,
Oh yeah, perfect. So my mom would say the readiness
(25:11):
is all and it's true, like you have to know
your lines inside and out. So I would just run
them with her, run or run and run like a play,
so that when I would show up for like Entourage
from take one, I've already It's kind of like I'm
in week three of a play where you've already done it.
It's in your bones. You're not reaching for the lines.
You're totally present, and you could be in a state
(25:32):
of play and make it look improvisational and easy, which
is why people think I'm already gold and I'm a
piece of shit, and the reality is I'm just a
stage actor from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We'll get into the stand up comedy again.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You gotta see Jeremy performing, as he'll be out there everywhere,
hopefully across this country. You see a stand up But
we do want to talk a little hockey and talk
a little Chicago Blackhocks.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Hold of before we talk, sorry, brother, before we talk
black Hawks. Yeah, I'm going to be at in I'm
here in Santato at the Yeah, I'm going to be
there all weekend so people come out and see me.
As much as I just wanted to see your adorable faces,
I also want to talk about you know what I'm
(26:18):
doing this weekend. I hate to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I please be that guy.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Because my wife saw you you stand up in Tempe, Arizona,
about a year and a half ago, two years and
absolutely raved about and loved it. Oh nice, she's a
she's an actress, loves does Broadway, loves plays, loves your career,
and went and saw you and wanted to and said, Ship,
that is some daunting stuff to take, you know, stand
(26:45):
up comedy on. And and so you're gonna be in
San Antonio and I mean, how has that been, like,
not transitioning but really taking this on? And and I
mean it's hard as ship, Like watching the grind of comedy.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
It feels like such an up and down roller coaster.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yeah, it's for me because I you know, well, first
of all, I don't even know. Maybe you can put
the website up or help kids to get to the
LOL Comedy Club in in San Antonio this weekend. We
have eleven more tickets and it's up to you guys
to sell them.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And pivot, who says, now, come on, there we.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Go, There we go. That's that's what I'm talking about.
I think it's like anything else, it's just really about
the reps. And you know, I get a couple of
hundred shows in a year under my belt. And even
though I've been on stage since I was a kid,
and my background of Second City in Chicago, and I've
been improvising and and writing and rewriting my whole life
to to get in that that headspace and be able
(27:44):
to For me, the performing isn't the variable. I'm I'm
very comfortable on stage just by home. It's just the
writing is, you know, and and sticking the landing and
going deeper. And what's so great is I can be
watching the Super Bowl and then go, bam, that's a joke.
I'm looking at the Free Palestine protester and he's running
(28:05):
around the field and I'm going, well, this guy's got
more yards in the entire Kansas City Chiefs, And I'm
going I gotta put that on stage tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know, skating legs.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
You look at this running a hot road out there.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Listen, this is what happens when you get older.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Man.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
You gotta do it fast, like this is how you
know you're getting older. I used to look at a
woman in a short skirt and I'd be like, goddamn,
she's hot, And now I'm like, I wonder if she's cold.
This is the type of polarity that you can expect
at the LOL.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
At the LOL in San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Look Jeremy be and Cleveland at the Agora March twentieth,
Pittsburgh the buy In Theater March twenty first, So there's
definitely opportunity to see.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Oh that's right, I'm going to Pittsburgh. That's a big
hockey town. Tell me about Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Tell him
do your job, bitch.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
How about the commercial and we looked it up when
you had that Detroit Sucks commercial which was in honor
of the Chicago Blackhawks. Mean if fond memories of going
to Chicago Stadium, greatest anthem ever Chris Chellius, who I've
been accused of looking like a little bit talk to me.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Uh well, Chris is the best and he was the
first like hockey player I ever met. Really to be
honest with you, and I because I grew up in
Chicago and I would you know, we were in the theater.
We had a theater company, and we got Chris to
his first play. He came and saw John Cusack directed
me and in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
And it was just imagine, like I'm playing a character
that's you know, tripping on five sheets of high power
blatter acid and just imagine that film on stage or.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That you're playing Hunter s Thompson.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
No, Billy Cusack. His brother was like, I was playing
Hector Isida Costa, his attorney, his Samoan attorney. And you know,
Chris is like, oh, well, you guys did a real
nice job. Like he uh he thought.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Waspsis of the movie was really good. It's interesting.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Yeah yeah, oh okay, no, but but you know he
but for you have to understand, this is a play
where we were losing our minds. Like it was just madness.
It was really fun. And so you know he started,
you know, in the Belly of the Beast. But I
used to go and watch Chris play and you know,
you as you guys know, you know, there was no
(30:31):
one tougher than that guy. I remember one night he
got into a fight and I you know, Chris is
so good that he could make the game make sense
to me, and the way that you know, he was
just a very he was really solid from what he
played twenty years. I don't know what he played his family.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He just didn't like his wife and kids.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, I tell you that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
In the HL. I don't care. Chicago, sure.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh he had a couple of East Coast its his
Him riding the bike in the sauna is the most
legendary thing.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That's how did it for?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Sola rode the bike in the sauna every morning after
twenty beers amazing stuff.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Yeah, I you know what, I bought his house on
Malibu Road and I moved into it. It's the closest
I'll ever get to the Stanley Cup. Good night everyone.
It's true. I swear to God I did. I'm not
making that up.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Do you have any like memorable first time seeing the
Chicago Blackhawks or even like a good memory of attending
a game there or any Chicago sports for that matter.
Being a Chicago boy.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Uh, the games were just it was the Chicago fans
show up, as you know to this day, they're really present.
They love the game, they know the game. You know,
you've got pearl jam blasting, you know, and and the
stadium rocks was the old stadium or the new one.
(31:56):
And We've had a lot of great teams over the years.
So I've loved it. And you know, the Detroit Sucks
commercial was an honor for me. You know, that was
so fun.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's great.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
But look at I I loved Detroit, you know, That's
what It's very similar to Chicago, Like hard working and
they're they're an underdog and they're making a comeback. They're
crushing the game. But yeah, I uh, Chilli's chilly. I
actually have that sauna and I kept the bike that
he had in there, and I drank a lot of
(32:34):
bud Lights and just sit on the bike in honor
of him.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's worns for what's for you?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, once again, you can see Jeremy payment this weekend
in San Antonio. Who's coming up in Cleveland March twentieth.
In Pittsburgh March twenty first at the Bay in Theater.
Earlier roles, You're in Heat, one of the great films
of all time. You got to share a scene with
Bob Denero be directed by Michael Man.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
It was incredible? You have to understand. I did forty
movies before Entourage, and that was one of them. And
you sit in the in the waiting room, you know,
preparing to do your role, and you know, I'm playing
doctor Bob and I have almost no lines, but I'm
gonna hang in there. And so it's really, to be
honest with you, it's about who can hold on and
not crack, because they'll make you wait some times one hour,
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two hours, three hours. And I saw an actor crack
and lose his mind and he threw the casting assistant
up against the wall and at that moment they walked
out and they were ready, and so it was just crazy,
you know. And so I just knew if I hung it,
if you hang in there, you get to go toe
to toe with de Niro, and I did. And all
(33:41):
the roles that I did Rush Hour to or whatever,
my lines were like may I help you? And then
so I bring So I'm like, let's put a mocha China,
Let's put a dead animal out of you. Butter cream,
butter cream, cracked skin, butter cream, what's splow the waste
mystery meat?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You know, and jet but heat is great. You're pushing
back against de Niro. He's like, take off your shirt,
like like my daughter gave me the shirt.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Take off your shirt.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Yeah that that none of that scripted. But when you
I just keep talking. I keep talking. And that's how
I you know, just kind of make you know, take
a scrap and make a meal out of it and
explore and heighten. And they're usually angry at me on
the day, but then you know, it makes it in
the film, and you know, everybody wins. I just wanted
to be ready and really like and I wanted to
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see what it was like to improvise with de Niro.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Jeremy Piven has been incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Make sure you watch his performance in the performance and
also Stephens stand up san Antonio this week is also
going to be in many places, as I mentioned, Pittsburgh
coming up momentarily. And by the way, JD, you and
I both in Jersey. I asked, is Jeremy coming to Jersey?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
He is not. Is he coming to New York? He
is not. But all but in New York.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So maybe me and JD take a the Trojan we
go check out Jeremy Piven do some stand up.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I mean, why why am I not going to New York.
I mean, what's so interesting? I mean, my booker has
me here at the rusty fucking chuckle Bucket in a
goddamn mall next to the fucking daven Busters, you know.
And I'm not going to New York where all my
fans are all the Jews back them in. That's good thinking.
(35:12):
Let's send them to des Moines, Iowa and play fucking
behind a dumpster with a fucking hairnet on. How about that?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, you know what they say, if you can play
des Moines, you can play anywhere.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Well, I don't want to play du Moines. How about that?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
This is a lot, right. I can't wait to see
you man.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
You should be going. I should be playing the Beacon Theater.
You know what I mean? I should be playing you know,
let's go. What are we doing? Were achieving?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Live show? Unscripted?
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Man, with Jeremy Piven at the Beacon Theater?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
How great would that be?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:53):
Oh you do? You do kind of look like Shelley.
Well listen, thank you guys. I appreciate it. I'll see
you on the next one.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Awesome.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Can you pencil me in for the twelfth of Never?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
This is great?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Man, I'll see you guys soon, all right, Cinophon sixty
Apparently Tao, I mean, just has got better things to do.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Same with JD.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
These guys will not watch The Brutalist. I've been from
them weeks and weeks. I guess I'll post put it
one more week. What the hell, no problem. Next week
was going to be Cinophon sixty Oscar Preview edition because
next we'll come at you the twenty six. The Oscars
is March second, So what the hell, We'll postpone The
Brutalist one more week to at.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Least jackasses actually watched the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
But we still have some guy Piers conversation because he's
making the rounds. He's nominated for Best Supporting Actor, deservedly,
so I've sat on record that's one of the best
nominations of the year. He's up for Best Sporting Actor,
first ever Oscar nomination. But JD's making news. He's on
which is one of my favorite podcasts, The Hard Reporter
podcast hosted by Scott Finberg. I just listened to great
director James Mangold. I know, tell Loves and walked the
(37:07):
line cop Land Heavy great stories, and he's talking, of course,
and he's nominated for a complete no that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Bop Ylla movie.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
But the next podcast that popped up from a Man
Feinberg was Guy Pierce The Brutalist, And before I had
even started listening to it, today, crushing the elliptical here
at the Sheraton Hotel, ready to get my swerve on
here at the Universal Studios, JD fires up the clip
which has been making the rounds, excerpted from this interview
with Scott, and I want to hear it in its
(37:34):
all entirety.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
I did that thing that I think a lot of
a lot of people do. I don't want to use
the word victim, because I, even though I probably was
a victim to a degree, I was certainly not a
victim by any means to the extent that other people
have been to sexual predators. But I did that thing
that you do where you brush it off and go,
(37:56):
oh no, that's nothing. Oh no, no, that's nothing. And
I did that for you know, five months, and really
sort of you know, I was scared of Kevin because
he was quite he's quite an aggressive man and quite
extremely charming and brilliant at what he does, and you know,
impress really impressive, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
So he he you know, he holds a room remarkably.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
But I was young and you know, susceptible, and he
targeted me, no question.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Now he makes it clear.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
He says he didn't you know, harashm didn't assault me
the way other people.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But he said that he was sexually harassed by him.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Hollywood monster, two time offscording scum back Kevin Spacey is
how he's been referred to, and Pierce is empathizing with
Spacey's victims.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But more to that, JD.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Before I touched to the baton space He's come a
fire and back, Hey, offside, I didn't know anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
You got a problem, Come take up with me. Stop
bespirching me. I've been acquitted.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Kevin Spacey was acquitted of sexually assaultly nine people.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Where are you on Pierce versus Spacey?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Well, didn't a couple of those people mysteriously vanish that
had sued him. I mean, listen, I'm team guy Pierce.
I mean it's come out that it's come out many
times that Kevin Spacey's a douchebag and and is very
handsy and and uh yeah, I mean he he was
(39:19):
at the Florida Panthers game. When he did the Spacey
and space and ended up going out to the bar
with the guys after the game. And I won't name
the names of the guys, but he was handsy with
some of the guys at the bar. Yeah, and I'm
not saying that just to say it. It's and I
won't say any guys. And hey, listen, might they might
have just been and just a preface this, they might
(39:39):
have just been, you know, they might just been hanging out.
And it was fun banter back and forth, and it
was speak he'll grab ass little locker room jive. But
that's what I heard. So and Guy Pierce coming out
and getting choked up. And but now that everything's come
out and he found he probably didn't know about all
these other victims and then finds out, so now he
gets choked up because he probably stayed silent and thought
(40:00):
he was alone. And then he has all these people
he can kind of, you know, eve with in a
sense and mourn with, because that's up. That is the
traumatic thing that happened. So I'm team Guy Pearson. The
fact that Kevin Spacey came on and did a video
is come on, man, with being like, don't be the
victim or whatever he was saying, like, come on, that's
that's insane. Guy's probably scared and he's Oscar nominated scared.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Kayser suss usual suspects, I mean unbelievable in Glenn Garry
Glen Rods.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
If you can separate the art from the artist.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
He's a great actor, but he's obviously a horrific human being,
even if he.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Says it's all a legend.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
David Airs is the opposite of that wonderful guy coming
up after this. That's right, the fifth anniversary of the
ebug one of the great moments ever. And how about
that segue, Kevin Spacey to David Airs. February twenty second
marks the five year anniversary of the night this man
(40:55):
became an overnight legend when he dresses the Carolina Hurricanes
emergency backup goalie against the Toronto Maple Leafs and, at
age forty two, became the oldest goaltender to win his
NHL debut.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Not only did he get the win that night, but
he was named the.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Games first Star and was declared Honore's Citizen of the
State of North Carolina. That appeared on shows like The
Today Show and The Late show with Stephen Colbert. It
is amazing. Welcome David Airs, NHL on the script is great.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
To see you man.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Guys, how has life been for the last five years
since you became a household name if done across the
sports with at least in the hockey.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
World, definitely different. I mean five years. It doesn't even
seem like five years, to be honest, but make me
feel old now I'm in forty seven. Now this is ridiculous,
But five years I get.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
Almost every single day I crossed the border a lot
for work in the Border guards. Almost every single time
I see one of the guys, he points at me,
He's like, you're that guy, and you get like a
you get a Leafs fan that doesn't really like it,
and or you get guys like I hate the Leaves.
This is great, it's so awesome type of thing. But
it's still like, every every day I come across somebody
who knows the story or you know, once they hear
(42:02):
my name or see me, they recognize me.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
So it's still kind of cool. But yeah, five years
long time.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Doesn't that just show how bad Leaves fans are that
they would just be mad at you.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
You know what, I've had some some pretty uh some
angry ones.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's some really cool ones.
Speaker 11 (42:17):
I mean there's uh, there's some there's some mangerins where
it's like, I can't believe you did that. You owe
me a TV. I broke my TV. A couple of
my buddies actually say that all the time. I broke
my TV, you owe me, you owe me a new one.
And I'm like, man, I'm just trying to do my
job there, trying to survive, and those got those elite
shooters on you. You only want to do is survive
out there and not look like an idiot.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
So I mean you, I mean you didn't like how
was it take us through that game a little bit?
I know you've probably talked about it at nausea, but
it's always fun to bring it up. And you know,
your friends right now that said they broke their TV.
I hope you don't talk to him anymore because that's
just that's awful. But how how was it in the game,
And like, you know, talk about the lead up to
it and and remind like the fans, the new listeners
(43:00):
here that that are listening to our show just about
that whole day and and how everything came to be.
Speaker 11 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean a lot of kind of the way
it works for me is everyone's like you're the zamboni guy,
Like they dragged me off the zamboni and threw me
a net, And it was completely opposite. I mean, to
be the emergency goalie, you have to have, you know,
some sort of a contract with the NHL to be
the emerency goalie in that building. And I was one
of a couple. But you know, that was my day
and it was scheduled, so I already knew that I
(43:28):
was going in that day, and you know, did my
workouts and stuff like that during the day, and you
kind of just put your gear in the truck and
you go down to the to the rink and.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
You sit there in the stands.
Speaker 11 (43:37):
Every time I went there, I think I did I
don't know, over one hundred games in total over three years,
and I did. I would just stand in the same spot,
section three seventeen in the standing room section. I would
just stand there, and that was my spot for the
whole time I was there. But I mean, you just
go to the rink as if you're just gonna go
watch a game.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
You don't ever think that you're going in And.
Speaker 11 (43:59):
That's the third time that year actually that I had
to get dressed. So I got dressed for tru all
before that in Detroit, kind of close to the beginning
of the year. So you just go there and get
half your stuff on and you watch the game.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
And you go home.
Speaker 11 (44:10):
So I figured that's just another day. It's just what's
going to happen, right, And uh, well, I ends up
going in the game, and it was a whole different
day than I actually expected it to be, So I
can't complain.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And go ahead.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Thanks you, you famously lan in a couple of quick
goals against Toronto. Things turned out okay. But how did
you steady yourself mentally?
Speaker 11 (44:31):
Yeah, I thought it was going I thought I was
going down hard after two on two, like that's not
I looked up and I'm like, this is gonna be bad,
Like this isn't good at all. I mean, lucky, I know,
I know a lot of the guys in the least
and then I'm sure they kind of took it easy
on you when they had the chance to rip one
on me, which I'm thankful for.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
You know, being on the ice of them every day.
Speaker 11 (44:51):
They light me up all the time, so I mean,
thank thankfully they didn't.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Make me look like an idiot on national TV. But uh,
you know, you just kind of it's one.
Speaker 11 (45:00):
Of those things you just kind of go into that
game and your goal is what you've done your whole life,
and you let it in two goals, and the guys
come up to me and say, you know what, we
don't care if you let in ten. This is your
chance to be on the ice with NHL guys. Enjoy it,
have fun with it, right. And I got to the
intermission with with James Rymer came and sat beside me,
and he was kind of half dressed still because they
(45:21):
weren't sure how bad I was going to be, and
he was actually maybe just gonna go back in and
try it.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
Even though he had a knee injury. But he sat
with me and he's like, look, this is what you do.
You're a goalie. You stop pucks. Just try and get
rid of everything else around you and just make some.
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Saves out they're and have fun with it, right. I
mean easy for him to say. The guy's got almost
I don't know how many games he's got in the NHL,
in so many years, But that actually helped really calm
me down for him sitting with me and telling me,
you know, just be yourself.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
How fun play the game. That's what calmed me down
for the third period.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That's incredible. I mean, you become instantly a part of
the team, and that's so cool that he did that. Now, afterwards,
in the flurry of doing all the TV shows and
getting people reaching out out to you, was there anything
that was really like really special to you, like one
of the shows you went on or one of the
appearances you made.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah, I think the New York trip that I did.
Speaker 11 (46:14):
It was on the Monday, I think I did I
don't know, twenty seven or twenty five interviews in that morning,
and we were supposed to be done by I think
two thirty and then fly out to Carolina that night.
And I didn't realize how big the Today Show and
how many people watch the Today Show.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
So I was on there a lot. It was at
the time. The PR guy for Carolina. He came with me,
and he.
Speaker 11 (46:36):
Just wanted to make sure, you know, I wasn't saying
anything I shouldn't say, or you know, he just kind
of lead me in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
He was awesome.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
But he's like, do you realize how many people watch
the Today Show? And I was like, no, man, I'm Canadian.
I don't necessarily watch the Today Show. And so he
was showing me all the kind of viewers and whatnot,
and we ended up going to do that one I
think it was a Fox Sports And then at the
end of the day we were supposed to leave, we
got a call from the Stephen C.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
Bear Show. They just said, Hey, I heard you're in town.
You want to come over and do.
Speaker 11 (47:08):
Like a little skit with us, and let's do it
like I that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Put to your point, David, do you think the current
e buke system is the best option for the NHL
when goalies get hurt?
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (47:19):
I mean I know now that a lot of the
teams have practice goalies. When I was with the with
the Marleys and the Least for that year, I did
a lot of the practices that kind of you know,
it's a lot of leaf practices, a ton of the
mar Lea's practice. I know now they've got two guys
or two or three guys that do the kind of
the job I was doing over those all those seasons, and.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
It makes sense because it wears you out. It's it's tough.
Speaker 11 (47:41):
But the emergency goalies, I think the teams do a
good job kind of scouting the goalies that they want
to do put that position. A lot of them university
kids that are that are good, you know, to have
an extra goalie on the payroll. And as a goalie,
what do you do if you don't play? I mean,
you go out there any practice all the time, but
for some reason you get thrown in as an emergency
(48:02):
goalie and that's your only job is to practice with
the team.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
It's tough.
Speaker 11 (48:07):
I mean, it's gonna be nerve wracking no matter what,
no matter whether you you know you're with the team
or not, or you like me, I was playing, you know,
with other guys. I was playing in a senior hockey league.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 11 (48:17):
So I was getting some some reps and some games
and under my belt. But it doesn't matter. You're gonna
still be nervous no matter what. And I mean no
other sport has it. Nobody else is.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
You can bring a pitcher in or a quarterback in,
and a.
Speaker 11 (48:30):
Goal is a tough position mentally, you know, that's the
part that's not the physical actual part of the game
that I was worried about. It was the mental part
of it. Is like, I don't want to look like
an idiot out here and make myself look bad and
make the Leafs who chose me to be in that
role make them look bad and all that kind of stuff.
So I just wanted to go out there and do
my thing, but mentally, it's you got to keep it together.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
February twenty second, the five year anniversary of Daviers in
the NHL and the Ebug System.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I think you should get a hold of Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Gay, I've already done Colbert five anniversary, Jimmy, how about
I come on your show?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Get it done?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
That would be awesome.
Speaker 11 (49:05):
I mean, those talk shows are great, those guys are hilarious.
I mean, there's a lot of, you know, cool people
that I would still love to meet. But I mean
we're doing a few a few things. I mean, now
that's five years kind of people are remembering it, so
I'm it got a few wheels turning, So we're doing
a few fun things.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
So I'm just kind of be cool to bring it.
Speaker 11 (49:25):
Back, uh, bring it back around and kind of everyone
you know it has a good story right now that
you know, the world kind of divides itself a little.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Bit, So it would be a good idea to have
some more feel good stories out there.
Speaker 11 (49:37):
And if you have to kind of go back and
reminisce on that one, and hopefully no one breaks TV's
this time, but they.
Speaker 6 (49:43):
Would be it'd be kind of cool. Yeah, it'd be
kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Just to those guys.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Yeah, that's right, all right, And so.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Maybe it's like a parting shot. You're an edging the script.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
What's good to David Airs, who's a wonderful guy.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Awesome interview, And Matt Doug Ruis is a former colleague
of mind from MLB Network. I'm sure Jad saw I'm
in the hall but once in a while high heat.
But that's off, which is deserved because he had an
awful take on the four Nations I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's been resounding pajuries.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I don't understand anyone's not a hockey fan not liking this,
You're not a sports fan not liking this, But Mad
Doug himself revealed that he said, I'm not a hockey officionado,
but I'm a sports aficionado.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
So that's like, I don't know hockey, let's go, I said,
While I'm not much of a horse racing guy, but
i know sports, I'm like, okay, go ahead, yeah and
all that works.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
But okay, So he.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Said basically that Candy was saying game was a disappointment
because he said the fights were premeditated and not right,
and he also said the third period was lame because
Cana didn't have many scoring chances.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Jadie, that's a terrible take. That was a great game.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
You know, you mentioned Mad Doug before in the show
and you heard me say loser. I don't mean I
don't know him personally, he's a loser take, because yes,
I I personally. It's such a dis sorry, disrespectful shot
at guys that make their living doing this.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
Again, it is part of our sport, it's part of
our culture. It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Hey, you want to have your take, you don't like
the game, But to say these guys premeditated and do
WWE stuff, which again I have a respect for WDV
because they're athletic. They have to put their bodies on
the line. To say that and compare that to something
scripted is absolutely disgusting. To say about any athlete in hockey,
because I've played with a lot of those guys. I
(51:23):
know a lot of those guys. I've been a guy
that's fought. Not well, but I've been a guy that's fought,
and it is a scary thing fighting on skates, your
helmet off. I've hit my head on the ice from
fighting in something that somebody may have been considered premeditated,
which I think is disgusting to say. There's guys that
are you know, have ct from fighting their whole careers
(51:44):
and protecting their teammates, making a living for their families.
So for him to say that is absolutely awful. It's
so stupid of him to say. I was sitting next
to Stuve Grimson, who had a hell of a career
over seven games in the NHL, the grim Reaper, one
of the toughest guys, super smart man, very well educated,
got his law degree, fantastic human being, and we're talking
(52:04):
about Uh. It was Ryan Reeves fighting Matthew Olivier. I'm
it was one of those fights where it was very big,
big stage in Toronto, and you know, I turned and
we came off fair, and I said, you know, what
do you think of that, and I said, oh man,
I love these like stage fights between the heavyweights. I
think it's really cool. And he just stops me dead
on air. He goes, would you say, excuse me? Staged? Staged?
(52:26):
He goes, you think that stage? I said, no, I
didn't mean it like that. I just meant, like these
two guys that are like, hey, are we going to fight?
Are you down to fight? It's for our team, it's
for our pride, it's to get the boys going. And
I said, no, that's what I meant. And he was like, Okay,
make sure you don't say that because if he's like
anybody that says that, like does not understand what this
is and what these guys they put their lives on
the line and they put their health on the line.
(52:47):
So but I just think it's it's not a good taste. Listen,
sometimes we do as analysts, and he's an aficionado of sport,
I guess minus hockey. But then there's like just saying
something inflammatory. To say something inflammatory. Also, he doesn't understand
hockey because that game was a defensive masterclass and that
(53:09):
is something that hasn't been seen. That was John Tortorella
putting together a perfect game plan that stymied Canada. It
was a very physical hockey game. A lot of guys
got injured from that. Couple guys at surgery from that game.
Charlie McAvoy, so to say that guy guys cared so
much to play that game and played it well, and
it was a great, great hockey game.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
It had a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Had some offense, had defense, had goaltending, had fighting.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
So yeah for him, and it was all for country.
I just think it was.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
It was just an It was an awful, awful take
and just to say something, to say something to get
clicks is is stupid.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It had defense, it had goaltending, it had fights. And
we're hoping to have mad Dog Russo on NHL's Unscripted
in the weeks to come.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
So yeah, I'd love to talk to him about it.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
I agree, he's the type, doesn't look like he wants
to back up for an arguments.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
That's great. No, he's probably gonna argue.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Let's go. I look forward to it, mad Dog. The
floor is yours, love to I love most of it.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Take I'll press this saying I like a lot of
us take off.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, I like them on base He's a baseball ficionado
right on basis, clearly not hockey. But you can't say
sports aficionado but not via hockey. Fishing outa that's a
that just doesn't work. This doesn't work, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I'm a movie at fishingado, but I don't watch movies.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Right the movie fish. I just don't watch horror movies.
What does Happen to You? Gets you discut an entire genre.
I can't get them on the substance. Okay, fair enough,
this was a ton of fun. Thanks for checking out Scripted.
That was still twelve in the books.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 9 (54:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
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