Pat Maroon is ready for his next chapter: On to Game 3, coaching carousel and JD chats with Gary Bettman.

After a hellish day of travel from Edmonton to Florida, Jason Demers joins Adnan Virk to talk Stanley Cup Finals, Boston hiring Marco Sturm and Peter DeBoer's firing. He also spends some time talking with the man himself, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman. Then Pat Maroon joins us to discuss his recent retirement, his fresh start in broadcasting and Bruce Boudreau's pre-game meal. Finally, Adnan reviews the Gorge and the guys break down Canada's nationwide support for the Oilers.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're Coming at You Hot and Spice Here.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Episode thirty five of NHL Unscripted, Great Guts, say Pat Parun,
who's got the most likable guys in all of hockey.
Recently retired, now member of NHL Network. He's got some
unbelievable stories. A savage take done of his colleague and
former coach Bruce Boudreau. All that More is coming out,
plus Little Sonopol and sixty of the New Miles Teller,
Amya Taylor Joy Movie, The Gorge and Apple, plus Spencer

(00:42):
Carberry Wins, the Jack Adams and Talking Little Patriots, and
the Hockey Talk when it comes to Boston Brewers. But first,
before we get to what was an epic game too,
JD's got travel stories for me.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
What do you got, buddy? I mean, what don't I have?
This was just an epic. It took me all of
twenty four hours to get from Edmonton to Florida alongside
eh Rad which poor guy, he was supposed to leave
at So he was supposed to leave after. There's a
couple of people that had a flight after Game two
at like one am. Leaving Edmonton to get all the

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way to Toronto and then they'd take a morning flight.
So it was, you know, they were trying to thread
the needle. And then it goes to overtime one and
then overtime two, and then now people are changing flights
because like we can't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
The game ended at like eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was traffic's crazy to get into the Edminty mid
So EJ is one of those guys that changed his
flight to twelve o'clock with b the next day. So
I was like, I'm going to get up kind of
have myself a morning you know, workout. I know, it's
a shit show of a travel day. Like I'm like,
I don't I know it's going to be long. Let
me just make sure I'm comfortable, so, you know, get
to the airports twelve o'clock. We'll get there as soon

(01:48):
as we get there. Flights late an hour and a half.
We're like, okay, now we're waiting an hour and a half.
And as we're there, you know, EJ's with me. I
find him and he's kind of like he's like yeah,
he's like you know, there's just like a little bit
of miscommunication with like the uber leaving the game last night,
so I had to change my flight. But he's like,
everybody's kind of doing you know, they're they're trying their hardest,
and they're you know, they're they're you know, they're just working.

(02:11):
They're working, and it is what it is. And you know,
then the flight gets late another thirty minutes, and then
he's like, you know, I just wish the communication was
just a little bit better and and and you know,
like I feel like I just wasn't clear. And then
you know, then I started seeing our bags getting pulled
off the plane and I'm like, oh no, like they're
pulling our bags off the plane. I'm so I go
up to the front. They're like, yeah, this there's maintenance issues.

(02:33):
So we're gonna have to change planes. He's now like seething, fuming.
He's like, are you you know, are you kidding me?
He's like, because we're in the airport now four or
five hours, and he's like this is breaking me.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
He's like, I'm gonna quit. I'm going home.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
And he's like and I'm like each and I'm like each,
like I gotta like I'm trying to help, Like, let's
find a solution here. We're trying to contact the NHL
because you know, the flights are booked through the NHL
and and you know it's it's you're going through middleman.
It's a process instead of just booking it yourself because
you know they they'll reimburse you. But we're like, hey,
let's you know, we got to notify them. So we're
on the phone and like I'm on the phone with

(03:08):
the NHL and he's in my ear being like the
driving and the fucking this and that, and I'm like,
he J, come on, man, you gotta calm down.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'm like, I'm trying to figure this out.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
And he's like, I don't even want to go to
the Florida And I'm like, it's.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Gonna work out. It's gonna work out.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
To the point where I was like, I've canceled myself
off that air Canna flight. I booked a porter flight
through the NHL. Was like, EJ, I love you, but
I'm like we can't both be spiral like, so I'm
like I'm taking a different airline.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
So we ended up taking different airlines to.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Toronto, and I showed up in Toronto last night at
I got into Toronto midnight last night and then flew
out at seven in the morning from Pearson. So I
was up at four nice, you know, three and a
half hours of sleep.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It was empty.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
It was empty at Pearson though, so you know, overall,
it was a very pleasant experience in Pearson, which you
don't hear that often. So I'll take that small win.
But then, you know, because I get a push on
that other flight. I'm on this flight, you know, Air
Canada Rouge, which Air Canada is the worst goddamn airport around.
Uh you hate Air Canda stinks. Air Cannon Rouge. The

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only seat left was thirty row thirty in the back,
and I'm in thirty. See my knees are going through
the through the seat. I got knees in my back.
And then of the four rows in the back, my
lady in front of me is the only person that
reclined her seat. So now I got somebody's hair panteen
right in my face, and I'm just like, keep it together, Jay,

(04:36):
God's test and you're getting tested. Don't freak out it.
I'm fucking freaking out right now, God dammit it. Gosh ah.
And then I eat EJ transferred to me anyway continue
that that was my rant.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Actually I have several questions.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, so I give you by the way, first gave
me that advice on the one am, because when I
was in Edmonton, I was like, man, this sucks it
out here.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
He was what he told me.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
He goes, hey, there's always a one am Air Canadacharal,
that's what you gotta take.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
My grade.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I tried to take it our last flood of the
year that we had like a year end parties. So
eg definitely knows that to get out of Edmonton. He
just got foible to double overtime. His logic was correct.
On the Saturday, you should have left at noon. Instead
you end up getting to Toronto at midnights. That was a
twelve hour travel that you had.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, we ended up leaving it. Well.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I changed flights because I was like, I'm going to Porter.
I'm not taking Air Canada. So I was supposed to
leave at four thirty and EJ's flight was at six
thirty because they pushed it at sixer And now I'm like,
I just want to get to Toronto early, go to sleep,
you know, just forget about this day. And then of course,
as I buy the ticket. They're like, yeah, the flight's
late an hour and I'm like, son of a.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Bitch, Son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So it's an entire day just to get ed into Toronto.
And then the Sunday morning, thankfully you got in today
wasn't horrible. You're down in Air Canada though, Andy Patrolla
loves Air Canada.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Always Canada the worst airline.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
But what's your issue with I've never had an issue
with delays. It's smooth, but people are very friendly. You're
shitting on it.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's the worst off.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
My mother works for them and she's the greatest Air
Canada employee. She just retired. Yeah this thing, they better
give her her life and waiting.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
The din issue there Listen, it's a little expensive.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I agree with JD on that, but as far as
flying the company paying for never had an issue there
in Canada great.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
I don't fly him often, but when I do, I
found it's kind of a chintzy airline.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You don't get yes yes Back.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Of the Jalan Jason Talent Jason Are Aligned, Jay Town
j Tow album released.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Benchewsky It's tell your mom she knows It's the only
fight always in a meal United, you can fly two hours.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
There's no meal air. Kenda always gives you something.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Heyt Porter had an amused boosh. They had, they had
everything and it was like there was no first class
and they had you had. You had a choice of
three different meals. You orzo salad and its beautiful.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's lovely. Porter underrated. I'll give you that Porter underrated.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Porter only to go to like I only use it
when I'm flying in Canada.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I like it in Canada.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, you wouldn't trust it internationally.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
All right, Thank god JD is there. Hopefully we'll be
hitting the beach at some point. Apologicis is great. I
want to know when did EJ make it? It is he
in Florida yet he refused to.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Take the direct because there wasn't a first class option,
so he took a connector for his class and he's done.
This guy's done twenty nine finals. So like, you know,
I allow him, you know, I rag on him here,
but like I allow him to have that that snap show.
He's been doing this, you know, twenty nine times.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
And he's like you know what, you know, he talks.
I'm old.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's like, ah, I want the comfort, you know, that's
the Yeah. So I was like, but I was just like, EJ,
I gotta get away from you. And then he's like
texting me. He's like, oh I got first class and
I'm like, EJ, I swear to God right now, I'd
love you, but I'm gonna snap on you.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
We gotta get age of the podcast, hoping the way
back to Edmonson obile but smoother. All right, the game itself.
Game moment was up and we talked without that game
too is amazing.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
We'll do it.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Piece by p JD.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Five goals in the first parody David to Leon one
of those gorgeous goals in finals history.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Jacob, Yeah, that was wow.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
That was NonStop.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I mean, this this Finals has been incredible and back
and forth two games go overtime.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean what Connor did there?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Was you know, you hear poetry in motion, you hear
you know the fact that he's able to do all
of that stick handling, passing at high speed, analyzing the
play as he's turning the corner. I mean, it's something
out of a movie and he's a glitch. And I
go back to it always like, how can you look
at that as an objective hockey fan and not say
like this is something that we're witnessing, you know, the

(08:53):
greatest of all time, and not anything against Wayne Gretzky
and what he's done, but like this is just a
different level of athlete hockey player. You know, you could
put him in any era, he'd have five hundred points,
you know, back in the day in Gretzki's air, and
this guy just it's crazy, Like that cut on a dime.
I mean, what's crazy is he did something after that

(09:17):
goal post five on three that was even more impressive
where he took the puck that was getting rimmed down
the wall and he did a reverse hit on Seth
Jones full speed while corraling the puck and then getting
to the net and almost hitting I think it was
I think it was nugent Hopkins for like a greade
a scoring chance. And just the fact that his edgework

(09:37):
is it's it's like it's like nothing I've ever seen
to be able to have that good of edgework top
speed while handling the puck.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
You just can't.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You can't teach that. There's I don't know if there'll
ever be anybody that can do what he does, and
I mean it was. It was Firewagon hockey two on
onees three on two's breakaways everywhere, hitting scrums, guys are
shit talking each other. It's a It's a great series
so far, and I'm interested to see kind of how

(10:05):
it shakes out here because I think it's gonna come
down to Game five. I think they're gonna split here.
I see a split coming, and then I think Game
five is whoever wins that I think will end up
taking six because I can't see these teams keeping this
pace for the next for a seven game series.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
It's too much. It's like, way too much.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's one thing to see the stars showing up, it's
another thing with that. Guys like Sam Bennett, with all
the respect, I don't expect him to be the story
of this year's playoffs. And yet goalie interference penalty, ugly
playing which he falls in Stewart Skinner's leg and then
s it's a new NHL record twelve playoff road goal again,
speaking guys that weren't expecting that big series. Corey Perry
Panthers can't clear woven shot shame, but Rovsky breevous.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Time torn Perry this time the gameteen.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
He tied the game with seventeen point eight seconds left
in regulation. That is the latest time goal and finals history,
and Perry was the forty year old.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Just screwing the Cup final.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
How about these names, Chara Recki, Larry Onoff, and Raye Bork.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Talk to me about Sam Bennett.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
We've been bullish on all playoffs and Corey Perry the
Rats still getting it done well.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I mean Sam Bennett, who I mean? I don't know
how he keeps getting away with this, just falling on
the goalie like he does it every series, never gets called.
It's crazy. He's he toes the line. I love his
interview after the game. He's like, that's exactly where I'm
gonna be. The rest of the series is in front
of the net, and you know this is the that's
this is the reason why a playoff team's going to

(11:37):
pay him eight to ten million if he doesn't stay
in Florida, which I can't see him not taking an
eight million dollar deal in Florida. Why would Florida want
to get rid of this guy? He's just a playoff
performer time and again, and seeing that, like Kachuck's visibly
injured and so is Sam Ryan Hart, like, this guy
is just another level of player.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Like it?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
But what's so funny? And I'll get to Corey Perry after,
But what's so funny? And then is you look at
that first period. I wanted to touch on this was
they're so Florida could take a penalty every shift, and
they do take a penalty every shift, and I feel
like they get called early in the first period and
they just say, fuck it, We're gonna play the same
way all game, and the reps get like desensitized to

(12:17):
it and they stop calling penalties, and then all of
a sudden, it turns into a full on Hudson Bay
rules Donnie Brooke on the ice every shift is them clutching,
grabbing after the whistle. You look at the Sam Bennett
slash on Bouchard, that's textbook retaliation penalty. Bouchard hits them,
rep doesn't give Bouchard a penalty. The retaliation is automatically
a penalty. It's the rules in the NHL. The ref's

(12:39):
call it time and time again. I understand it's the playoffs,
but when you set the precedent the first two games,
the first periods five penalties and then like eleven penalties
and then they stop calling it because they take a
penalty every shift. Like I implored the fans to watch
the game, every shift they take a penalty. But the
reps are like, I can't call thirty penalties in a game.
They're like, I can't insert myself with this, So I

(13:01):
just kind of the whistles go away, and then they're
able to kind of play that you know, junkyard hockey.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, sorry, just one of the penalties.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Panthers are twenty three and ten in which they have
fewer pelliments in their opponents, so clearly as much of
a higher success rate when that's happening. And the Oilers
are twenty four to ten and five in which they
scored one or more power play goals. You would say
at the outset, special teams are going to be critical,
and so far it's proven to be true. Go ahead,
your thoughts on the Corey Perry.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Well, I mean, just how his adaptability. You know, it's
just the way to find and fit into any lineup
in any position and be impactful. And that's just the
hardest thing I think for older players to do is
understand where you need to be in the lineup and
you see a lot of guys not be able to
stay in the league long because you can't adapt. You know,

(13:48):
I was able to stay a couple extra years the
longer than maybe I should have or wanted to, because
I had to adapt and take on a role that I,
otherwise when I was younger, would want to do. But
that's what Corey Perry does in spades, and he just
goes where he needs to. He's he's a gamer, He's
he understands where to be at the net. And you know,
he was so close all game to scoring and we

(14:08):
were kind of having a conversation between him and Trent Frederick,
and you know they're seeing Treent fredericks a little bit
of an overthinker and he gets these chances and then
he can't score. And I'm like, but yeah, look at
Corey Perry, Like he gets these chances. It's like you
just couldn't put one away, but you just know he's
gonna stick with it and he's just gonna find a
way to get a greasy one. And that's just kind
of that resiliency that he has. That that's why he's

(14:30):
played so long and he's still so successful and so
hard to play against it's so hard to get a
stick in front of the net man. He's a wizard
down there with it.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Speaking of wizards, Brad Marshall again having a nose for
the Nets Whims game two through the Panthers in double
overtime rat with Nichols and second of the game, both
on the breakaway at a cheap shot, but in the

(15:00):
second overtime because of the first player. Is still like
a final history to score a short hit go in
regulation than an overtime winner. One more time for the
people in the back, first player in Stelly Cup final
of history to score short hand a goal in regulation
and then an overtime game. Brad marsh In leading all
players in playoff goals in playoff overtime goals since he
came into the league, and that winner Jaye. It wasn't
like it was the smoothest play ever, like it was,

(15:21):
but it was a heads up play.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
The deep worked and the Bucks sworts and heck of
a play.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
After Skinner had that one save in overtime, like, oh
my god, and then the puck I think it was
on the post and Clamberog cleared it. I mean, certainly
Florida had the opportunities, but for Martia to do it
again again, this guy just has, as I said it,
nose for the net.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well can you did you see the Did you see
the side by side of when he was playing the
Panthers and they were up three to one with Boston,
he had that breakaway. I mean, Bruins fans gott to
just be. They lost this guy second round pickad Man,
you're telling me you're giving this guy away, second round pick.
I don't care if they extended Sweeney, I would fire

(15:58):
him watching this playoffs just off of that, because I.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Come on not Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I guess their thought was, we're not going anywhere the season.
Let's get something for nothing, so to speak. But you're right,
Marcian is not nothing. You could have got it at
a good rate for the next two three years.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Go ahead, he's gonna, I mean, he's gonna know. I mean,
he's gonna sign somewhere Toronto. Some are seven million. He's
gonna he's gonna get another deal. He looks great. You
can't you can't teach that that kind of warrior gamer mentality.
And I mean, yeah, Bruins fans.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Gotta just be.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Every goalie scorer is just hurt so deep. Oh like
tal like the first cuts the deepest, but this is
like death by a thousand cuts for Bruins fans watching
this playoff run here.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
So I was just gonna clarify. Actually you mentioned the
second round pick. The Bruins are actually getting the first
round pick for Marshawn because the Panthers won two playoff series.
It was a conditional second Okay, still okay, wells still
still having said that. However, to see if I'm a
Bruins fan looking at what Brad Marshawn's doing right now,
it's gotta hurt. It's gotta hurt knowing that this guy,

(17:01):
who was I mean really the face of your team,
I guess him and maybe where the face of your
franchise brings so many intangibles, so many incredible moments through
the years, And to see him doing it in a
Panthers jersey, it still looks weird. It's still it still
doesn't look quite right seeing Brad marsha On in a
Panther's jersey. But good on Florida. Forget the guy for

(17:22):
a pick. Basically, who's doing so much for them right now, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Certainly great to see Martian delivery right now for the Panthers.
Speaking of delivering again, our man JD boots the ground
as you heard, this travel story epic. But the good
news is he's hobnobbing with the very best alongside his
running me to Lexie landa store.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I got to talk to Commissioner Gary Bettman. That's right,
j D and the commission during Stanley Cup Live in Edmonton.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Before we get to some snippets of the snip snip,
what was it like talking to the boss?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I'll just give you before we get before we're all
the audio, I'll just tell you the setup of it.
So you know, we you know, we're out in Ford
Hall and there's a bunch of people there and they
kind of we start the show when they start letting
the fans in and you know, Matt Nicholson's doing the show.
He's do great job doing Stanley Cup Live and take
pod loves our pod. He wants me to plug it

(18:09):
incessantly on during Stanley Cup Live and I you know,
love it. I'm like, yeah, Shanon told scripted. So before
the show starts, you know, I was like, oh, we're
getting Gary and he's like, yeah, Gary's coming on it like,
you know, we start to show at four thirty Edmonton time,
and he's like, he's coming on four forty and I said,
just just be ready. Gary's early always and he goes, yeah,
he'll be four forty, Like he'll be I said, just

(18:30):
be ready. So we had like four other guests, like
like a jam pack show. We had Ryan McDonald sorry,
Sean McDonald from Shoresy. We had Chewba Hubbard from the Panthers.
We had Tony brarr and and and I can't remember
last name, but Page. They are the Edmonton Oilers audio network.
They do the you know studio stuff, and we also

(18:54):
had their their radio guy, Cam Moon and they're all
there early and then Gary shows up three minutes before
we go live and he just kind of moves everybody
out of the way and he's like, you know, like
where's my mic? And I'm like I'm like I told it.
I just absolutely big dogs everybody. And I was like

(19:15):
I loved it because he's just like, yeah, I'm here,
so we're you know, we made small chat with him.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
He's not gonna wait for Cuba Hubbard or no, no,
He's like So they all waited and he gave us
like a really long you know, twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So you know I'd go to Stanley Cup live and
listen to it, but we got I know, tal you
got some really good audio from it. So here's take
a listening at GB Gary Bettman, I.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
Mean, and I know you of course there's there. What
do you think it would mean to Canada to get.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
Able to do this?

Speaker 8 (19:59):
Teams perhaps Albert between Calgary and Edmonton. But I think
there's a little bit of a coming together of Canada, hey,
because it's been a while three decades since the Canadian
team has won the Cup. And secondly, I think a

(20:19):
little bit of the political overtones has galvanized people to
come together. I'm gonna get to it overhurts Deem of
like where hockey's going mex because it's growing so much.
Hockey's ever been hot. Are there any other international markets
you're targeting and do themselfs in Australia, but any other
place that kind of tickle your interest. But we want
to make sure that we're particularly vibrant in Europe, particularly

(20:43):
Northern Europe, where hockey is so important and so many
of those countries hockey is the number one sport like
it is in Canada, and we're also mindful of the
fact that roughly a third of our players come from
Northern Europe and there's some of the best players in
the world, I mean the best players in the world
playing the NHL, and so it's important that hockey maintained

(21:07):
an important status, that great athletes continue to gravitate to
it so they can come in and answer our game.
It's an exciting time. We have some fun ones for
you here on Stanley Cup Live. Do you have a
favorite emoji that you ever use. I used to smile
with a lot because I'm always happy.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You gotta be happy during these times in group text.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Are you a fan of group chats? I have to
do a lot on social media and group chats because
you know, I don't always want people and lots of
people to know what I'm thinking and what I'm doing
smart and I'm still a little old school in that
I'd rather have a direct conversation and look in somebody's eyes,

(21:50):
because no matter how much you use emojis, it's not
quite as good as conveying the essence of what communication.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
You're trying to have.

Speaker 8 (22:01):
And I know for younger people, gen Z's.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Na smiling emoji. JB always happy, always has hard hitting questions.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I love it. Yeah, always happy.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
We got to get his number now just start text
him happy faces. What a great game, Gary, happy face.
The coaching carosel we go, in the words of Connor Garland,
just when we think we have all.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
The answers, they changed the questions. This was Thursday. Former
player Marco Sturm the new head coach, replacing interim.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Head coach Joe Saco, who was promoted after Jim Montgomery
was can November nineteenth, forty six year old Marco Sturm
fourteen seasons in the NHL, five years in Boston. I
did not realize he'd spent the last three seasons as
head coach of the King's HL Philly in Ontario. Marco
Storm I love former players getting into it, especially when
they've got a little bit of pedigree. It's like he's
going right from the ice, so to speak, then to

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behind the bench. He has been coaching a little bit,
but jad this surprised me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Marco Sturm now the coach in Boston.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, Boston's really trying to win that Joe Thornton trade. Hey,
they're really trying to win that Joe Thornton trade, doing
anything they can. San Jose gets the director of Vibes
and Joe Thornton. Boston brings Marco. Servia says, you know what,
you're the head coach. No, Marco, He's everything I've heard.
He's loved by the players, you know, was a very

(23:24):
well respected player in the league and teammate. I think
it's it was the between him and j. Woodcraft. We
had Elliott Friedman on. I think he was telling us
that it is between him and j. Woodcraft. I think
they just really liked Marco Sturman. It was somebody they
had their eye on as somebody that understands the organization
and the culture there. And I think, you know, he
was under the tutelage of Todd mccollin a little bit.

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He started in LA with John Stevens, and then he
had Todd mccalluney who was assistant for him. So kind
of learned that one three one and brought that to Ontario.
And so I think there's going to be some semblance
of that defensive structure in Boston. And I think he's
just going to get them back to their identity. So
it's a good pickup. I think, you know, you look
at all the other dealings that happened with the Debor firing,

(24:07):
and we'll probably get into that and all that, but
you know, it's I think it's a good pick up
by Boston, and it's somebody that can kind of relate
to these young guys coming up, and he's kind of
grown some young guys from from the LA organization. So
this is a this is kind of the logical choice
for me.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So all right, see if the Bruce can get back
to the playoffs. You mentioned Peter de Bor this was a
stunner on Friday. Was the head coach in Dallas for
three seasons. He gets the Stars the conference final all
three seasons, but loses in the conference final every single time.
Before Dallas, he got Vegas to the conference finals twice,
losing both times. He also coached San Jose and New
Jersey to the finals. I don't think it's just one move, Jad,

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and yet that move is a spectacular backfired in retrospect.
The fact that he pulls Ottinger after because of two
goals and two shots after Jake says, hey, I was
publicly embarrassed and humiliated and divorce it. Well, I knew
he was gonna face criticism if it didn't work out,
which it did not. I think it's oversimplified and say,
one move costs Mana's job, but three straight years you
haven't been able to get with a hump.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I guess that serious agains Edmonton did indeed doom him.
How do you read it?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well, he's kind of like Laviolette where it's like three
years and that's the limit. If you look at all
of his jobs, it's like three years is the cap.
And I guess the word we had it's great. We
I go into media and I never paid attention to
like coaches and coaches firings and all that. And now
the two years I'm doing media, it's like everybody's getting fired, left,
right and center. No one can keep a job for

(25:31):
more than a year. So I'm learning a lot about
the position more than I ever did when I was playing.
You know, Ellie came on and he started talking about
how the word from the room was that, you know,
as the series went on and the rounds went on
in the playoffs, Pete would kind of tighten up and
get a little bit more frantic and a little bit

(25:53):
nervy and they didn't like the way he handled some situations.
And I just think it that was kind of the
straw that broke the camel's back. I think it was
building for a little bit of time before that, and
I feel like, I don't want to say panics. So
I think Pete Boar is a great coach. You look
at Joe Thornton's one of his favorite coaches, you know,
I think Pete just kind of incertain moments and you know, listen,

(26:14):
sometimes some coaches don't know how to handle goalies. You know,
they don't they aren't good at goalies. Yeah, they don't know.
They don't understand the position they want it to be.
More like you know, Mike Upset it really good and
he was like they just kind of think like, hey,
stop the puck.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
That's what you got to do. Stop the puck.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
And if you can't stop the puck, we'll find somebody
that can because everything else is working but you. And
that's kind of I don't feel is the way to
handle it. And I think Jake Rodgers really liked by
his teammates, and I just think it didn't sit well
with the team and kind of like you're giving up
on him, you know, going down to nothing. But I
think it was a lot leading up to that behind
the scenes, and then the way he handled it after
the series. I mean, you look at the way Jim

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Hiller handed his coaching decision in LA and he's still there.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Pete Boy kind of did the same thing where he
didn't really take any of the blame and he kind
of just was like, it's on them, It's not me,
it's on them, kind of shots fired across the bow,
and I think ultimate it just came to a head,
and I feel like i'd keep an eye out on
Jay Woodcraft or the HL coach in Texas, Like I
don't know his name off the top of my head,
tell you have to find it. But apparently those are

(27:16):
the two names that are out there. Jim Neill, you know,
kind of had Jay Woodcraft when he's a video coach
in Detroit, and then apparently this Texas which they're in
the finals right now, I think, or they're in the
Semis in the in the Calder.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Cup playoffs and they're doing really well.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
He's kind of grown a lot of these young guys
and had them in his system in the Ahl, So
I think he's the logical candidate as well to maybe
come up and take over, because they think if he doesn't,
he's gonna go somewhere else and take a head coaching.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
The name you were thinking of six seasons with the
Yes the Stars.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So yeah, he's kind of I think it's gonna be
those two. It's gonna be those two, so to me,
interesting to see we might have another young coach in
the league again.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And maybe if la or Utah struggles early next season,
he's back to the league.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
As just said, he's got a great pedigree, he's been
a great coach. But it's just to go Dallas.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
We had to the last possible second every coaching vacancy filled.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Pete de bow is not gonna be coaching any times soon.
That was Yeah, it's a bit of a shot there
as well. Yeah, I feel like it's timing, right. Doesn't
that feel like weird timing if they knew the writing
was on the wall. But I don't see Jim Nill
as being that kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I don't know then and what you think, but I
just think, yeah, it's an interesting one. But you could
see somebody probably firing somebody early in the season next year,
if Pete de bor is still out there and available.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, as you say, certainly has a track record of success.
Speaking of track records, Pat Maroon had an unbelievable career,
three Stanley Cup wins and a great storyteller, all around
likable guy. He's coming up after this quick breaker NHL
and scripted. He's got great stories from his time, not
only with the Chicago Blackhawks, obviously, the Saint Louis Blues
and stories about Bruce Perjority.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're gonna love all that more coming up next year
on unscripted.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Our next guest was a six round pick one hundred
and sixty first overall by the Philadelphia Flyers in the
two thousand and seven NHL Draft.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
The recently retired forward played eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
And forty eight games with the Ducks, Oilers, Devils, Blues, Lightning,
Wild Bruins and Blackhawks. He's the only player in the
last forty years to win the Stanley Cup in three
consecutive seasons.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Pat Maroon. Pat, great to
see you man.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I had a blast interviewing on Amazon Prime during the season.
Of course JD knows you're now part of the network
now the NHL Network, so cannot wait to have you
institut with us in Secacas. You wasted no time dove
right into broadcasting. What was it about it that you
want to see? No one I want to go out
there and share my expertise with the world.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
Oh, I just wanted to try it out and see
if I liked it. I knew a lot of players
kind of dove right into it. Some players loved it,
some players did it, And you know, it seems like
there's a lot of there's a lot more X players
kind of diving into the hockey media world, I will say,
And it's something that intrigue me a lot. It's pretty hard, though.

(30:07):
You got to be on your toes and you got
to know your stuff. Pretty nerve racking. But I think
once you get through it and get through the first one,
it just becomes the natural thing that you're just talking
to guys in the locker room.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
So I really liked it so far.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
Really like working with the guys, and it's been fun
to really just break down the games and talk hockey.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I mean, how wild is it too, because you you know,
you recently retire and and no time, no lagging between
you getting another job. But then you're also you know,
you just recently brought home a new baby, and it's
like how wild has that transition been? Being like going
from playing just figuring out your routine on the road
and like playing your games like holy shit, like I got,

(30:50):
I got. This is a hall thrust. Here's life.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
Yeah, for sure, it's obviously tough, but yeah, I mean
we just had the baby and then it's like boom, retired,
stay at home dad, just grinding.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
No.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
But for me, it's like I kind of enjoyed it.
But I've been I guess I've been doing some stuff,
you know, trying to get away a little bit, get
back into routine. But it's like I feel like it's
like you retire and then it's like summertime, so it's
like this is our off season, so you're kind of
used to that, you know, being home with the kids
every day. You go to your workout for whatever two

(31:27):
hours and you come home and like, you know, you're
back to the grind with the kids. So I think
what's the hardest part is probably gonna be navigating myself
through the regular seaton when the regular season is going on,
because it's like a new look for me being home.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
And you know, traveling a little bit whatever I'm doing.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
But I think summertime is normal, a little normalcy because
it's like our off season, you know, JD.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
And then like yeah, some time it's probably gonna be
filled a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Novembers.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, November is a little weird because you're like your
first year, Like when I had it, I was like,
this is so weird. You're like texting guys, Hey, you
want to go to get dinner. You're like, oh, wait
a minute, self and like a Marriott and Socacas New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Let's dive right into the Cup final here, Pat, you're
trade of the Oilers in twenty sixteen. You got to
be the rookie named Connor McDavid and a second year
player named Leon Dwisa.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
What were your first impressions of those guys as.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
Teammates, Their work ethic and the way they approach the game,
and you know how they do it, and you know,
Connor's Connor. You know we all see it. But I
think is you know, you can say to that natural
gift to those two. But I think they put in
the time and effort and the training and the off

(32:40):
ice stuff, the eating habits, the little things that make
you a better hockey player to sleep the rest, you know.
But I think all around they're just well rounded people too.
They're great teammates, great friends, and you know, great leaders
in that locker room. So that's just you know, with
all the stars, you can see like you know, they're
just all like great people and they all want to

(33:01):
achieve one goal as be good teammates and you know,
try to win as and try to win and that's
their goal right now.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
But I've had an opportunity.

Speaker 10 (33:10):
Great to play with those guys and I can't say
enough good things about them as teammates and people away
from the rink, and you know how they treat everyone
with respect, and you know, hockey's hockey, but I think
the person is more important than hockey.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
What his first year, you know, you played with them
as first year and what was like one play where
you kind of were like, holy fuck, this guy's already
better than all of us.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
I think it was against Columbus that one play he had.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
He just came back might have been the first game
like he came down it was like a one on
four and he just like toe dragged.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
And then like beat.

Speaker 10 (33:53):
It was like he beat the one guy who came
down against the defender like toa dragged him split the
d and it was the second saying. I was like,
all right, this kid's a lead. I think it's all
over the highlight reel too. I think he can pull
it up if you can. But I mean, the goal
itself was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's pretty cool to think about the bench now, you
know that's the I mean, I'm sure the bench is
just like, well, there goes our jobs and all of
our playing time.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
But let's shift.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Heeres another teammate you had, who's a piece of trash
age forty Corey Perry doing Perry things. I mean, you know,
what can you say about this guy your former team
at Anaheim and Tampa and what he's done and you know,
winning a cup after you know, eighteen years later, but
being in the last five finals, and like, you know

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what he does for teams and what he means and
how the hell who did he sell his soul to
to keep being this good at this age?

Speaker 10 (34:51):
The warm man, the greasy warm slurting his way through
for nineteen plus years in the NHL.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
I think it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
I think the way we all know he's not the
fastest skater, but the way he navigates through the ice
and his hockey sense, his hockey IQ and his hands
are lead. I think he's probably one of the best
players below the top of the circles of what he does,
an elite, elite player, And that just goes to say
and like the things you can say he's slow, but

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the things he can navigate himself through an author rush
is pretty still impressive. And I just think there's so
there's guys like that. You don't find a lot of
people that can play his role. And he's been doing
it since he's been a young age. And you know,
he steps up when you need him, when he needs
a fight, he'll step in there. He's greasy, he stirs

(35:42):
the pot, he's always in your face. You know, he's
a competitor. He just loves the game. But there we
don't find a lot of Corey Paier's anymore. And I
don't think we'll find he's only generational. I think, man,
we'll never find it. I don't think we'll never find
another Corey pair. We might, I don't know, but you know,
he just he he goes up and down the lineup.

(36:02):
You can play on your fore find your time up line.
He's just a utility player that you know, plays all
these roles and then he's really effective and the best
net front guy I seen besides Pavelski. I touched on
that JD. We touched on him the other day. But
I think he's one of the best players. I think
his poison his patience when he gets the puck in front,

(36:24):
like you know, some guys rushing like myself, you just
like getting he's tapping, it hits his chest, he gets
and makes a move and before you know it's in
the back of your net. So I think his patience
is poison front and the way he does everything. But
Edmonton's got a good one. His leadership in room, the
way he brings, the way you carry himself, so a
voice and other voice that can help these guys, you know,

(36:46):
kind of get over the hump here. So I'm very
happy for Pears. He deserves and I hope he goes
out and wins another cup here because he's the one
guy that I feel he needs to get one here,
like we need him to get one here.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, fariet chance.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
When the Stanley Cup eighteen years if you first won
it with the Ducks switching gears back, Kelly Chase first
notes you when you were a kid, brought to you
as any AHL team in text Arcana. Obviously he's a
legendary figure in the game, beloved by all.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
What do you remember from your first few meetings with Chaser?

Speaker 10 (37:16):
Honesty up front? Uh, you know, straight to the point,
kind of guy. You know, no bullshit with him, you know,
don't try to bullshit your way around him, and kind
of right. You know, he was just straight up with
me and my father and you know, had a meeting
with them. It's like your kid, you know, can play
on our team this year, but he's he's got to

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put the soda down.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Come on, coach.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
What I mean, how is there anything that shows how
you know tight that that's fuck? That's great? Is there
anything that shows how tight the community is? You know,
with just everything he's been kind of fighting with and
and uh, just showing the outreach and support and I
mean a guy that kind of was just tough as

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nails and all the people that at a drop of
a hat will just run out and do anything they
can to support him and support his cause.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (38:17):
Absolutely, but I think he's the first person that helps
all those people before and I think, yeah, you know,
he's the one guy that takes every phone call, takes
you know, anything that people need help with, charity events
or you know, just him showing up to you know,
just a small event that doesn't mean nothing, but it
means something to Chase her because he wants to do

(38:39):
that stuff. And you know, he's the first person that
takes a phone call for anyone, and he's always there
for people, always trying to help out the Saint Louis community,
always trying to help out his friends, you know, doing
little things that you know that will help in that
you know, he sees some he's he'll see something in
someone that you know he believes in. And and that's

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why he's such a legend now in Saint Louis, but
around the league because of what he does and how
respectful he is and what he does for people, the
outreach he does and the stuff he does out just
to go out of his way to do it, and that's.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Just kind of who he is.

Speaker 10 (39:17):
He's a loyal, loyal man, and you know, the way
he does things and operates is pretty impressive. And and
I can see why all this outreach for him with
his charity events and everyone that comes and the people
that show up, and he deserves it more than anyone
because he's He's the one that probably did something for

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all those people before that, you know, So that's just
the kind of guy he is. And you know, hopefully
he can keep fighting here and he can battle his
way out of this because he is a fighter, and
we're all thinking of him, and you know, lots of
prayers for him, but you know, he's a fighter though,
we all know that, so he'll get through this.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
One of things you got to enjoy, hopefully, Pat now
retirements being a hockey dad, how's it seeing your son
Anthony develop as an elite level prospect.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 10 (40:05):
It's fun to be a dad now, no I mean dad,
but be a hockey dad. And like maybe travel with
him this year and go see go watch some junior
games and go watch him play, because I haven't really
done that in a long time, so this will be
a nice nice break for me to like go watch
him and sit down and enjoy game and and watch

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him develop. So I'm really proud of him and his
work ethic and that after he's been putting in this
summer and got we got two camps this year coming up,
so this summer, so looking forward to bringing him and
watching what he does. And you know, I'm just excited
to be his dad, and I'm just excited that he's
just a good, good person and good human being and

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he's a good person first before hockey. That's all that
matters to me. And you know, hopefully he can continue
that and his hockey player will continue to get better.
You know, he's a he's a late bloomer, but you
know it's it's a marathon, not a spread. That's always
telling him just keep working hard and if you effort
in good things will happen.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
What what did what did he take from your game?

Speaker 7 (41:11):
My hands in my boy.

Speaker 10 (41:15):
And my.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
My skating?

Speaker 10 (41:18):
He he skates straight up, So I have pat.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
You need to get is he an uprighter? You're gonna
get get those quads down?

Speaker 10 (41:27):
Yeah, we need to get him lower in his stance.
We need to get his core work going.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Oh, you know, winning three cups, you know every one.
I'm sure has its own memory and and own amazing moment.
But like for you, which which one kind of really
stands out as special and and something that will you
know your favorite.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
I guess St.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
Louis because I'm from Saint Louis and it was the
first one and being a part of that team and
what we went through through, you know, the month from
September to January and the way we came out of it.
And but each of them are very different and very
different and special in a different way.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
You know, ironically, I'm from Saint Louis.

Speaker 10 (42:12):
You know, we're dead last, and then somehow the Saint
Louis Blues team comes from the bottom to the top
and place to Stanley Cup. And you know, I think
for me it was like the mark going down Market
Street during the parade and you know, going there when
the Cardinals won the World's serious. And now I'm doing
it as a as a as a player, and you know,

(42:35):
I used to be a fan of the Cardinals going
down and watching the parades. Now I'm the guy doing it,
and you know, seeing my dad's face and my brothers
and my sister, and like my dad was the season
ticket holder for the Blues and the Cardinals, so like
to have those moments and share them with him was
pretty special, you know, going to the old Arena, watching

(42:55):
him get torn down, and then you know they're moving
to the Kills Center and then now it's the Enterprise Center.
So it's like all those special moments that kind of
let up to that moment, and you know, just being
a part of that team. That team was so special.
We had such a great locker m great teammates. You know,
it was one of the closest locker rooms I've ever

(43:16):
been a part of and still to this day. And
to have that moment with them and to share with them,
and you know, Saint Louis couldn't get over the hump
in the conference finals, just kept seeing like the conference
finals and then finally they just got over the humps.
So to see all that it was pretty special. And
then with Tampa was like the Columbus thing and getting swept.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
You know, they have an E League team. Can they
do it? Though? Are they selfish?

Speaker 10 (43:44):
Like all these moments and then you kind of go
to the team that kind of finds your identity late
into the year. I think COVID hit obviously, but you know,
we kind of stuck to the structure and kind of
stuck together as a team, and the group chats and
making sure everyone's doing good, and you knew you had
something special about that. You know, you kind of put
Columbus the side because it just was all the media

(44:06):
was this Columbus. Can you guys do this Columbus? And
finally guys like, fuck Columbus, I'm tired of talking about it.
But you know, it was just special to see those
guys because they've you know, they've been to conference finals,
they've been to finals. When are they gonna win? When's
their opportunity gonna come? And then you know, we you
can just tell we had it. You know, we put
everything aside. We team first, guys, great locker room, you know,

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guys willing us to play simple hockey, not chasing and
not chasing offense, playing more defensively because I know, defense
kind of ran in some trouble. They weren't really playing
they can they couldn't defend, and we locked down defense
and our offense kind of took over a little bit.
But watching those guys voisted Stanley Cup for the first time,

(44:51):
and you can see it was like the the weight
on their shoulders kind of often lifted because of you know,
the years of grinds of the conference finals and you know,
the Stanley Cup finals they lost, So it was kind
of nice to see all those guys, you know, and
get that opportunity to lift it and kind of you know,
the smiles and you know, and what they had too

(45:12):
is special.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
So you know, I was a small piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 10 (45:17):
They already had the puzzle, you know, together, it was
just figuring it out itself, right, So I think that
was more enjoyment for me too, Like they had everything
you can possibly get as a team, the closeness to
the guys, the hockey talent, you know, the lines, the
makeup of the team.

Speaker 7 (45:34):
It was just finally getting over the hump.

Speaker 10 (45:35):
And I watching them left that Standard Cup finally was
awesome to see last one.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
For me, Pat, you a really had the perfect send
off to your NHL career, and that often isn't the
case for pro athletes, right injuries happen, you want to
keep playing, you can't get a contract.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Et cetera.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
But for you, it was it was so specially an
Now it's live on the ear of Darren Paging and
you're retiring a great ovation from the crowd in Chicago.
And one of my favorite moments of the year is
March twenty second, twenty twenty five, your final game against
the Blues. You get a nice video tribute and you
were named first Star.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
How cool was that?

Speaker 7 (46:03):
It was all Austin. Obviously, I didn't expect that at all.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Our team, our PR guy came down and kind of
talked to me and say, hey, they want to do
this for you. I was like be sure, like yeah,
and it was like every period, so it was really
neat and like I said, like I told Peger, like
I've I don't expect that at all. I'm not an
e leade player. I just played the game because I
loved it and I worked hard, and like, I'm not

(46:30):
an the lead player to have that ovation or be
a part of something special because that's just not who
I am.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
One and then the player itself.

Speaker 10 (46:39):
But really cool with the Saint Louis Blues did for
me and Doug Armstrong and Alex Dein and they didn't
have to do any of that. And I'm so happy
because my wife wasn't thinking about coming down that day
and she came down with the kids.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
So that was a special moment for me and my family.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
That was everyone in in in the stands at night,
so the Blues didn't have to do any of that.
So I really think for that moment, and you know,
that was a cool moment for me and my family
to share together.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I mean, it's it's awesome when you're able to kind
of write your own ending, and as much as it's
it's difficult to do as an athlete. But you know,
my last one for me is maybe on the lighter side.
You know, you had Bruce Boudreau early in your career
and you're probably gonna see him at the network.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Uh, so you gotta give me a funny the best
Bruce Boudreau pregame speech you've heard, because he is a
treat to work with at the network and you're gonna
see first n.

Speaker 10 (47:40):
I'm gonna say, I don't have a speech when I have, like,
I don't know to ever tell you guys a story
about his pregame meal.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
No, okay, So Bruce Brudro's pregame meal.

Speaker 10 (47:53):
It's two steaks, pound of pasta and meat sauce on top,
and two and two diet cokes, A big fella.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
I think he scarf said down at the network. I
think if they have it, it was like.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
He was playing the game.

Speaker 10 (48:11):
A pound of postics probably exaggerating, but yeah, a lot
enough pasta like where you can like pat it down,
you know, so I think. And then after he would
eat that, he would grab two cookies and then he
would he would hide them.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
He wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
He didn't want to be ashamed.

Speaker 7 (48:34):
He didn't want to be ashamed. He'd look around and
hide and like put him by his side of his pants.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
He's the best.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Someone would get in the elevated like, oh, Bruce, you
get some cookies, just a little pregame cookie, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
And so he.

Speaker 10 (48:52):
In pre game speech he would have the chocolate all
over because him hide it all over soup pants.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
And he wouldn't realize it. So guys would just be laughing.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
And you know he's diabetic, you know, and he would
prick himself and there'd be blood on his belly. But uh,
I got we have a funny story, or Kevin Bieksa,
he was, uh, this one, Bruce kind of got embarrassed,

(49:30):
but it was pretty funny. Bruce was like the first
one we because back then you know, Jad, we didn't
have like chefs or males.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
We had yeah, none of that practice.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
Someone had to buy lunch for someone, you know what
I mean. We didn't have breakfast. We didn't have We
were lucky if we got bananas or strawberries right.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Or or stale muffins.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
Or the or the bread that was moldy for to go.
But we had Tripoli in and out.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
I'm not for sure.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
And Bruce was like the first one to get it.
We're all the sitting there. He actually comes in, he
goes say some say something for the rest of us.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Bruce and I was dying and Bruce's you know, Bruce's
face gets really red. Yeah, and he's just fuck you
just walked away.

Speaker 10 (50:22):
And I was like, but that's the only person that
can do that, is be actually, because he's just a
sense of humor, he's witty and he doesn't give a
ship what you think either.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, oh, man, Papa is going to be an awesome
addition to the NHL network as an analyst and uh
obviously keep him very busy right now at home as well.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
This was awesome, Pat, appreciate you, man. We'll see soon.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
MM hmm, all right, Patty, great guy again. Look forward
to see him on NHL Network with all the rest
of us. Quick senep on sixty on The Gorge, new
movie on Apple TV plus. Give me a few months
to destroying Miles Taller and you Taylor Joy before you
get into this.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I saw the previews of this and was like, I'm
very excited to hear what you think because they saw
the trailer and I was like, fuck this.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
So the only reason I want to see is just
for that cast. I love Miles Teller, fellow Eagles and
interviewing much for stuff. He's a great dude, so I
always want to suppor him and in any Teller Joy
Man Rick Queen's gambit. So I'm like, you know, I
did not see the trailer. I'm like yourself. I just like, oh,
a new movie, Miles Teller, go see it. So it's
The Gorge, which is literally just a gorge of Milla Nowhere,
one of these future dystopian thrillers. Miles Teller's on one
end and all his job is he's a sniper. He

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shot people and killed him from four thousand feet away.
If anything starts to crawl up, I ee, these weird creatures,
you shoot them. That's it, that's my job. Okay, you're
there for three to sixty five days. He takes her
from the previous guy. One day he knows any taller
Joy's on the other side of the gorge. So now
through binoculars they start communicating. The ramone starts playing, Hey,
let's dance together.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Like this is quirky shit, right.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Eventually I'm like, well, they're gonna hook up. He takes
a zip line, goes down to earth side of the gorge.
They get it on, let's get.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
It bangs here.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, another you know, you just random just now, just
throwing a sex scene for no reason, right, why not?

Speaker 9 (52:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I was like, Okay, I guess they're lonely. It's middle of.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Nowhere, it's future, the middle of gorge.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
And then middle of gorgon, then up the gorge. Hey,
wi the wile they're you know, making the beast with
two backs. Also these weird creatures to get I'm like,
what the fuck? And then it gets a little kuokie
and weird, and it wasn't great. I mean, I suppose
if you like dystopian thrillers in that environment, it looked beautiful.
I'm sure Apple TV Plus through a ton of money
on it. Again, I like both those actors a lot,
but it becomes fairly generic, routine.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Sci fi thriller.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
There's not a whole lot of thought to Sigourney Weaver,
by the way, shows up in the movie just clearly
taking a paycheck.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I'm like, you know right away.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
But the first shoes he shows up like Sigourny Weavers
clearly evil, she's setting things. So she's just collusing here.
So it's not worth two hours in tendendtes of your time.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Buddy, Well it you know, it reminds me of a
movie I just watched on the plane because I was
in the airport for twenty four hours and it could
not work because I was so pissed. I just watched
The Great Wall with Matt Damon. That movie's ho page.
But that's the same that's that's so bad, But that's
the same kind of movie. It's like, oh, creatures coming
and there's a wall ad. Why does the water look

(53:09):
at twa looking at me like I got six heads?

Speaker 11 (53:11):
No No.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I used to work at USP on college football Danny
Cannell and Joey Galloway one time galliy walks in goes Oh,
I just saw The Great Wall, and canell are like, what, like,
would you actually paid money it was great? I'm like,
wait a second, you paid money to see it and
you thought it was great, because that movie is atrocious.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I made a point of watching to see how bad
it was.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Oh, his accent is just so funny, career killer.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
If you're not that David, let's I like, yeah, tell
you didn't never know up watching? You just know it's awful,
So just know he's bad.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
You have to see it.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
No, I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
God, well, there's no gratuita sex scene because it was
back when you know, movies were movies, and now it's
just just throw a sex scene. Yeah, that's I'm really
turned on in the middle of a gorge where creatures
from hell are coming up.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
That's really.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Let me take a zip line. Let me take a
zip line across instead of just jerking off to the binoculars.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
That would have been a great twist.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
The same time, Jack aas Award winner Spencer Carberry. This
is about as expected as speaking of jacked Jack Adams,
I can't believe this first goes to wing coach there
the NHL, HL and EHL.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
That's unreal.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
What a hat trick for Spencer Carberry clearly deserve that JAD.
He don't expected the Capitals being a number one seed.
He did an unbelievable job.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Congrats.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I really like the way they're doing those revealed, the
award reveals with family and I like those things, the surprises.
The Sean Monahan one too with Meredith Caudreau is old
man that made me cry like a baby. But the
Spencer Carber, I mean, he's proven winner. He's such a
smart coach and he seems to get the most out
of his players and everybody you ask and talk to

(54:48):
I think I think he also is very smart. He
surrounds himself with the right people, Kirk Muller, Scottie Allen,
just a great group of coaches around him and a
team that can kind of support him.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
So he's great. I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
He'll be a great coach for long time to coming.
Young guy only thirty seven years of age, obviously winning coaching.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Well all right, well it's like kind of becoming kiss
to death a little bit with the Jack Adams, Rick
Todkins Montgomery fired fired, so look out look out look
out Spencer Garvey Peters bar is a lurking like Homer
and the Bushes.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Great meme of Homer. This one was found by Tal
He was fired up for this one. Interesting discussion for
her Patriot's team. It's Julian Edelman rober Gronkowski on the
Dudes on Dudes podcast. The discussed Tyler Sagan's tenure with
the Bruins, and Edelman joke that coach Bill Belichick may
have had Sagan traded away from the Bruins because if
Patriots players were having too much fun out of the
town with it, then Bruins forward Tyler Sagan.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
We're having too much fun.

Speaker 11 (55:46):
I think Coach Belichick had him traded because he was
influenced us. He had so much fun with this kid.
We did like they said, we got to get him
out for all the sports. He just liked to have
a good time.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Don't put me on the spot with this one. When
I have pertinent knowledge on this, I ain't touching this
one of the ten foot pole kidding me. Uh no,
they had fun. I'm sure they were all young. They
were winning. Yeah, I can imagine in Boston it would
be quite interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
But tell us and that's what I'm leaving at at.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, but listen, go back to Mike Richards, Jeff Carter
right rumors where they were having too much fun in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Bob Clark didn't like that. There's this many many a story,
but a player who got a little ramboses perhaps and
they just want to make a move.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yeah, Jason Emers say, Jason Mers in Dallas, Jason Mers
in Florida, this Demers in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Well that's that makes me wonder, JD. Because you you hear,
you know, we've heard this story before. The guys having
too much fun, so they trade him. Is that something
that players can still do today? I mean, it's hard
to get away with anything these days, especially if you're
playing in a Boston or a Toronto or a New York.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I think there's more like security measures put in place now,
Like guys, you know, back then you didn't have to
like you know, and this is crap to even admit that.
I've seen these things where it's like you you know,
pop phones get checked at the door. You know, phones
get you have to sign an NDA and stuff like that,
and it's like to go to like a bar, and

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a party if there's guys there and there's more like security.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
There's always like a security guy.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Around now a lot of the times, I think for
the top guys, and in any sport, I don't just
think hockey, so I think it's more protected. But yeah,
to your point, like you can't just be you know,
going out night before a game to a nightclub, like
people will find out about that. And it's also varies
on markets. You know, certain markets are a little bit
you know, in San Jose is easier to do something

(57:41):
then I mean New York is still pretty easy in
the sense of you know, it's pretty hush hush there. Yeah,
but like you can do stuff with the devils and
no one will know. But it's like, you know, if
you're in La or you're in you know, Montreal, people
know if you're out, like if you're sitting at the
bar having a couple of cocktails, a couple of tails.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
But think about how ridiculous is the Actually the three
of us are on a teams have a little get together,
a few ladies coming over and he goes, hey, by
the way you walk in, you just gotta sign the
cendia and put your phone away.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
That's the last thing here. Canada clearly behind the Oilers.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
The CN Tower in Toronto lit up in blue and
orange for Game one, as was Montreal's Champlain Bridge. How
unpressed I think it is for I was just show
the plunctation, I said, you and you and Towell correct
me if I'm bull But could you imagine if the
Leafs were in the finals like Edmonton wouldn't be supporting Toronto?

Speaker 4 (58:32):
I think no.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I think we finally hit I think we finally hit
the tipping point where people are just like, I don't
give a fuck which Canadian team wins.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
We just need one to win.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Eight thirty two years, it's like thirty tiers forty for Toronto.
I think any any fan in hockey, I don't other
than the team they're playing in the finals, would be
rooting for Toronto to win because I think we're all
sick of them losing. And the media in Toronto is
so happy when they lose because he gives them storylines
and they can just keep that, you know again and

(59:03):
all their Cash's podcast. And if any of them go
around and say no I want them to win, I'm like, no,
you don't. You could see Pete like I love I
love looking at like Toronto Twitter like now during the
finals and they're like Brad Marschath thirteen goals in the playoffs,
Mitch Marner thirteen goals in the last ten years. It's like,
give it a fucking rest man. It's like, like, let these.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Guys like, yeah, they lost, Like Marner's gone, Like it's it,
that's it. Things have changed.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
It's like stop building them up so much in your
head during the season, so you're disappointing the playoffs just
just enjoyed as a fan. But you know, I just
think back to your point. I think Edmonton would be
rooting for Toronto. I think we'd all be rooting for
any Canadian team. I'm at that point where the.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Only one that we wouldn't be Montreal Sean plain Bridge
would not have blue and white. They would not be
supporting the least well the siparatist. So I can't see
mutrel supporting Toronto a cupfall.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
You think I think Montreal would at this point now
because Montreal fans understand where they're at as a team. Also,
you know, like it's yeah, it hasn't been a huge
rivalry because they haven't been good this year they've been
they were good, so they're better and it's like they're trending.
So I think now we're gonna start seeing like Montreal
versus Toronto and round one. We're gonna get there soon.
It's common where we're gonna get those matchups where hopefully

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we get back to the Battle Alberta in like round one,
and we're gonna start seeing Ottawa, Toronto and the playoffs more.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
It's gonna be. I think Canadian teams are gonna figure
it out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
So I hope so be great for our home in
Native Land.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Thanks so much with Jason de Burs, who's grinding right
now getting it done, even with a full day travel
day just to get to Edmond to Toronto. Now in Florida, Joyce,
South Florida, my friend and I love the underrated h
erotic impression, especially the open to it like I don't
know if you could do a full Yeah, just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That's an excellent said.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
You know, you know, you get on the road, you know,
I like my first class Yeah, you know, you get
a little tired.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
And you get is his cadence is the best.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I am not enjoying South Florida because I have to
go do a after this, this will have aired and
all that, but I will be I will have completed
at NHL now as well today, so I have to
go do an hour show for the network.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
So we work hard.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
We worked or medium, pay Sean MC and pay Sean MC.
That's why Buddy Stu Gott's the Daan Lavatory Show. He's like,
I'm going to Florida. He packed a bunch of bathing suits.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Then he got to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Sunrise, Florida because this is just car dealerships. There's no
beach around here. I'm like, well, I got the hotel pool.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
At least he went to sun He's staying in Sunrise.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
I guess last year at ESPN sentiments, Oh yeah, yeah,
ESPN he didn't know any better.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I thought, Oh, Sunrise is a smalling not exactly South Peach.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
What ESPN needs needs tal as a as an advisor
to them to teach him about the ways of the hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Talent is Mustache.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
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