After witnessing a child's all-out tantrum at the airport, Jason Demers has some parenting questions for Adnan Virk before breaking down an electric first night of the 4 Nations Face-Off. They're then joined by legendary broadcaster Sean McDonough, who shares his favorite call, unique upbringing and interaction with Team Canada coach Jon Cooper immediately after the 4 Nations opener. Finally, the guys discuss Clint Eastwood's Juror #2 and campaign to get Jason cast in the upcoming Youngblood reboot.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
That's Right, Episode eleven. As we surge into double digits
here an NHL Unscripted, he's demersed on Burk. It's great
to have you with us. We're gonna be talking four Nations,
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and Jason Neverse called it I swear to God on
his social media. He said, Hannah in overtime, and they
did so against Sweden ahead of a fevers crowd there
in Montreal. We'll talk all about four Nations plus USA
now missing Queen Hughes, what that means for them. We'll
also talk for the quarter century teams. The great Sean McDonough,
who has been a legend in sports broadcasting for decades,
will be the voice calling the Four Nations Championship on
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ESPN February twentieth.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He joins us talk but all things not hockey. That's right.
That talks a little baseball, talks a little golf.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He was outstanding, and of course in the Cinephile and
sixty we're talking to movies. Jad's watched a ton over
the last little stretch as he serch towards the Academy Awards. JD.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What's going on, man, Good to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Good to see you, my man. It's nice to be back.
A couple of crowds country flights, and I had a
quick question. I want I wanted to save this for
you guys, because you know, I'm flying through the airport.
I'm going to I was going to Phoenix, so I'm
getting through security, and as I'm walking through security, there's
there's a woman with her two kids, probably five years old,
five and six years old. She's wearing a jacket. This
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little girl five or six again, she doesn't want to
take her jacket off. The mom's sitting there says, please, honey,
take the jacket off. Kids starts having a full on meltdown,
throwing herself on the ground, screaming like blue murder in
the in the airport, like blue murder. And the mom's
keeping it together because as a parent, I'm sitting there like, yeah,
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I'm like, do you do you do you do you
hit the kid? Do you not hit the kid? What
do you what do you do? Do you do you
scream at the kid for just not have children, which
is why he's not Yeah, but this is this is
I'm asking with the kids. It's suns. Right, it's a
little loved that I got loved tapped when I was
a kid if I was acting up. But you know,
you got to realize there's tsa there's cops around, there's people.
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So they get through the security and she's like on
the other side, the girls, like the young girl's like
now throwing herself on the ground, rolling on the unscreaming,
crawling under tables. What do you do there? Is it?
Is it a swing? Is it a spank? Is it
a hey, you wait till we get home? Or is
it like you just got to kind of grit your
teeth and be like that's it. I just don't know
as a parent you hit or not hit?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, no, you can't hit. But it's it's a lot
of self contained anger. But you're right, you're gritting your teeth,
like you just wait, like this is this is not filming.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
People are filming the mom and the kid because that's
how bad it was. I've never heard a meltdown like this.
I was three gates away and they were still up
on the concourse and I could hear the screaming, blood
curdling screams.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And tell you feel for the parent because everyone's judging
the parent, Like Jason said, whether or not you have
a kid or don't. But as parents, we've been there
our kids all ACKed up, but not it sounds like
this level towel.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
This is a mutant clearly.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How you're a hitter too.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I can't seeyeah, I have a young son.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I can't say we've ever hit the fit public fit
in the airport stage of raising our child. But yeah,
I feel like for me, that's that's where you immediately
start the negotiation.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, hey, we're not doing this, you want to do this?
Not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But we're told you don't negotiate with terrorists. Tal you Tal,
You look like you seem reserved. You look like you
swing swing first, Ask questions later.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
My wife maybe just kidding, Keith, I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Tell's wife just let's swing first, house questions later. Speaking
of coming up swinging first, that's what the Philadelphia Eagles
did in the Super Bowl. I got to mention my
beloved Eagles demurs openly chirping on Twitter saying he doesn't
want to do unscripted this week because my gloating, but
I'll keep it brief. A bit of fancas nineteen ninety
thirty five years of fandom. Oh for our first twenty
eight years. It's now three Super Bowl appearances in the
last seven years and two championships. I don't know what
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to do with myself, but I'll tell you this, JD.
Going into this playoff run, I'm an idiot because I,
like many earlier in the years and fire Syrienne, Eagles
were two and two. They go into the Bible and
after that they're unstoppable. They won sixty of the last
seventeen games. The one blemish was against Washington, when Jade
Daniels threw five touchdowns every stretch of the playoff run.
I felt pretty good Packers rams once the lines were
out of like, oh we'll beat Washing again. But going
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into the Super Bowl, I have a few buddies now,
I have a few who are like blow up for
strem Like really, one of my friends actually goes forty
to nine, forty to fourteen Eagles. I'm like, Wow, I
got do Mahomes magic. I'm calling thirty one twenty four.
I text the manager of the New York Yankees, my
dear buddy, Aaron Boone, diehard Eagles fan.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He goes, I got twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The Homes magic makes you queezy going in And then
while watching the game, I said, what in the world
was I nervous about this Eagles defense? Picuarly that card
four absolutely overwhelming, And I can imagine for yourself, a
guy who doesn't have a dog in the race, what
a terrible Super Bowl Eagles boat raced him.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, I mean it was, It wasn't It was so
much fun to watch. I'm a defenseman, so watching defense
thrive and defense like really dominate. And to get that
kind of pressure with the front four like to be
able as a defense and football just drop everybody back
and still get to the quarterback is I mean, you
can't ask for it. That's you can't. You can't lose
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with that kind of defense because it's I don't care
how good of a quarterback you are. If you're getting
pressure in you all game from only four and you
are looking up and all you see his bodies ever
Eagles everywhere you're you're not. It doesn't matter how good
you were, Mahomes or not. So it was nice to
see the Eagles were the best team. I mean they
were fans and they didn't even have like a Barkley
game where he kind of ran rough shots. So I congratulations,
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it was born as shit. The how'd you like the halftime?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, so let's get to the music.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
So I looked like the halftime performance, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
A huge trombone shorty guy. He was great.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And Terrence Blanchard, who Spike Lee's longtime composed, he was
the trumpeter.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Right at the start.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Harry Connock Junior introduced him, so I was actually more
excited for that. And John Baptiste I thought did a
great anthem the way he did in the Land of
the Three. I thought it was a great star spangled banner.
I enjoyed those guys more than Kendrick Lamar. You and
I both not huge hip hop guys. You're more in
the EDM. I gotta be honest. The game got one
hundred and twenty six million. I believe Lamar might have
got one hundred thirty one.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I thought it was good. I know, I do know
some Kendrick Lamar songs, so I like it, and I
think he is like one of the best rappers and
hip hop artists of all time. So I think he's
he's that good. I just you know, I just don't
know how that plays in those those venues. Like my
wife's turning, She's like, it just doesn't work, like my
favorite one. And it's not because I like a certain
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genre more the other. But like the Bruno Mar when
Bruno Mars had his, I think it was like ten
twelve years ago, it was a show is incredible. It
was so good. You could bring on you know, you
can bring on people, guests to come in and help sing,
and you can really make it theatrical in a scene,
because that's what the super Bowl is. Unfortunately, like when
you bring in the hip hop and the rap, it
just doesn't play. It's too big of a stadium.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Let's get to the four nations. So I'm an old man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I went to bed after two period's like oh three
one Canada, we got this. You were locked in an
NHL network and I wake up today and you're just
sitting the messages going all my good Belsinger was rocket
what it finished?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like, what the hell happens?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So I watched the DVR and oh my god, Canada,
thank god beat Sweden four to three. But Krasa was unbelievable.
Three assists and the fans chanting his name. I did
see what Wayne Gretzky was saying at the second or mission.
He goes, you know, when I was getting older and
playing with young guys, it reinvigorated me. People often focus
in the young players. Hey, what's it like to play
with person a Gretzky Lemieux. Crosby goes, But he's invigorated
by playing with those guys.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
JD.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gotta type frek guy who it wasn't a hard
percent sure whether he was going to play for people
of four nations?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Who really cares?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Clearly Sidney Crosby at thirty seven years of ages taking
it seriously.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He was awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That whole game, the whole spectacle. You know, anybody that
thought this turn and hey, I was a little skeptical
of this tournament. I was like, is this really gonna
be our guy's gonna be given it? Or are they
gonna be going hard?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Is it gonna be good competition? And holy shit it was.
It was such a good event. I mean starting off
with just marye Lemue walking out at the start of
the game as the ambassador, coming out having a picture
next to Sidney Crosby, the place erupting and then the game,
physicality was up, you know it. Cannon was dominating early
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in the first period. I think Bell Center really carried them,
Like I think the fans were just next level, and
that's how good Montreal Canadians fans are and fans within
the Montreal area. And I think Sweden was just a
little kind of hesitant. They were a little bit scared
and you know, two nothing lead early and then Sweden,
who I think is a dark horse in the tournament
for me, I think they have the best decore in
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the tournament, a lot of NHL experience. They started to
kind of implement their game and I mean they held
Canada like twenty twenty two shots, which is which is
insane with the amount of skill you have on that team.
And you know again it was but it was the
Sidney Crosby show, like this guy is is every every
time we think he might be getting a little old,
you know, he comes out and he plays fantastic game,
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uses his brain. I broke down the three goals that
he was involved in directly him using his vision. I mean,
there's every every single clip of the goal and I'd
love and edit here if we put these clips here.
But before every goal he's he takes a look and
scans the ice and then that's where he ends up
going with the pucks. So in the mckinning goal, he looks,
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hees where McKinnon makes that little spin around my backhand.
Then when he goes to mark Stone, he literally looks
behind him says, Okay, mark Stone's coming late. I can
drive deep, turn up hit mark Stone. He does it,
and then in overtime he's looking where guys are coming
off from the bench and he's looking back behind him
where Mitch Marner is goes into the zone, drops it back.
Nobody really does that, and then gets out of the
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zone leads to the Mitch Marner goal. He's just he's incredible.
He is Captain Canada. And the crazy stat that I
want to really drive home here and drill home before
I let you get back on this is in international games, Sidney.
When Sidney Crosby is playing consecutively, he is twenty six
straight wins in his last twenty six international games. He's
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twenty six and zero. That is such an astronomical number.
When he is on team Canada, they have not lost
in twenty six games.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Dude, that's incredible. I did not know that one grave
concern the Shay Theodore injury. As soon as you hear
we're down to five defense an, what like, oh my god,
like geez, like this is this is the start of
the tournament.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I love cal mccarnan.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's great sing Drew Dowdy up there, but talk about
a potentially crippling injury.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, she you never want to see anybody get hurt
in this, and I think that was the fear of everybody.
And then he gets it. It didn't look good. He
went and got X rays and and Jackie Redman was
kind of commentating on TNT and she said he she
said she just saw it and it was like swollen
and typically that's a break. That's a breakover a sprain
and and he probably broke a wrist or forearm. And
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I'm not you know, I'm not a doctor, but I'm
just saying I played one on TV. But uh yeah,
I'm just saying he got X rays and it's not
good because he you kind of saw. That's when Sweden
started to take over a little bit too, because he's
a puck moving defenseman, really mobile, and you know, with
Pareco and Dowdy, they're not as fleet of foot as him,
so it's kind of they weren't breaking out the puckets
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clean once he got injured. And those guys played a
lot of minutes. But again, all those all those deep
played you know, twenty five plus, So for them it
was fine, But that kind of atmosphere I think, uh,
it was tough and and you know, credit to them,
they kind of they bent but did not break. And
now Travis Sandheim comes in. But it's a crazy rule
that until they're at eighteen skaters, they can't replace anybody.
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So if another D man gets hurt, they have to
afford us to play D because the rule, the rule
is you're a you have to be at eight under
eighteen skaters to replace guys from other teams. So can
you imagine you're sitting in Cobos sipping on a cocktail
and two guys go down, You go, You needn't come
play for Canada against the USA on Saturday and watch
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Jesus two sheets to the wind.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It'd be a crazy atmosphere. Listen, you're always one for
four thinking of being different. How about three on three
in the NHL for ten minutes? How wild would that be?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I think it's I think it should be severely considered.
I know McKinnon talked about it and everybody's online saying, well,
you know, the top guys are gonna get tired. I'm like, well,
the ten minutes makes you play your whole life. Don't
just play the mckinnons for six minutes. He played like
six of the seven minutes, Nate McKinnon. See, of course
he's going to be freaking tired. He played six to
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seven minutes. Yeah, he's your best player, He's who you
want out there, but you need to have other guys
that play. And I think it would just it might
cause more goals because you'll have to put a third
line out there, a couple guys that don't typically play
three on three, And I just think, you know, if
you did that, That's the one rule I would like
them to look at is ten minutes. And then the
other rule in three on three if it's my opinion,
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and I'm sure Gary listens to this, so Gary, if
you're listening, is in the three on three, when you
have the puck and you cross the offensive blue line,
so you're going into the ozone to attack, you cannot
then bring the puck outside the blue line. You have
to stay in the offensive zone so you don't get
this thing where guys start just bringing the puck back,
bringing the puck back, bringing the puck back. It means
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you have to stay in the offensive zone until there's
a turnover. And I think you would increase play and
increase turnovers, and it would increase the it would kind
of speed up. I think the three on three a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's definitely. Listen, you think back
years ago and you go, oh, no, over time, it's
the way this they'll ever do a shootout that gets incorporated.
So the game does evolve and change, and you're right,
but just being things up instantly would make things exciting.
You predicted Canada USA as many are doing. You're predicting
USA to win. Of course, to Quinn Hughes injury that
could be notable and impact in such a short term.
Who knows how these things will go down, but Canada
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US and Saturday is gonna be must watch and potentially
February twentieth in the Championship with Sean McDon will be
calling in the ESPN. Sean is coming up here momentarily.
So first Nations off and cooking in the great city
of Montreal. I did want to hit you up as
well on this quarter century team. We were gonna get
this last week, but I know you're doing a little
bit of a talking on an NHL network as well.
So the fact that fans now have opportunity to vote
for the NHL's All quarter Century Team. The fan vote
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will determine the top twenty five players the past twenty
five years, regardless of position, that will comprise NHL Courter
Century Team, presented by sap SO. Voting conducted on both
NHL dot Com and x Fans will have one hundred
percent of the vote. Only players named to a club
first quarter Century team will be eligible four selection.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We're not gonna pick all twenty five JD.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
How about a starting six for the past twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Jeez, Louise, that's too tough off the god.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's that's tough off the top. Crosby, Oh yeah, you know,
like I would recentcy biased like macar I think for
sure has got to be up there. Crosby, do you
I don't even know. Do you put Ovechkin in the
top six? I don't know, as he is the greatest golds,
you do, I would, yeah, okay, twenty five ors you
have I think you have to because there's nobody that's
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done what he's done to you go a Vetchkin. Yeah,
then you're looking past twenty five years. I mean you are.
Are you considering your boy Chris Pronger or I gotta get.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Chris Pronger There absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, not in the top six. You're nuts crazy, See
I baited. You need to into it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You need my god, I have to tick.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
The goddamn bad Yeah, Chris Barker, Yeah, I fan of
the show, fan of the show. No, McDavid, McDavid. And
then I'm probably, yeah, I need other defenseman, howbout the
day Chara? But yeah, but we argued that you argued
that Pronger is better than Charas exactly press. No, I
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mean I would probably Scott Needemeyer would maybe be ahead
of that. But I'm like, oh no, Nick.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
All right, So Listrom mccarr crossbild Vetchan McDavid. We just
did it on the fly.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, that's a good line too, decent line.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Just need a goalie.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Who's your pick?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The last twenty five years?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, Broder is kind of one where you can
be like you have carry Price, which I don't think
many people might take, but carry Price for me is
one of the best goal is. You could argue hell
about right now. But because he's breaking records, I mean,
there's there's so many goalies of cheez, let's go with Marty.
Then we'll say Marty, yeah, so just I'll let's just
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have Yeah, let's just let's do this off the top
and just have people skewer me.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We didn't have enough time to prep for it in faris.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
We just we're kind of throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
No, there's Yeah, there's so many guys. I mean it
just you think about twenty five years, it becomes very much.
I'm interested to see the more. The thing I'm more
interested to see is that it's one hundred percent fan voting. Yes,
so it's the big markets are gonna win. So it's
really gonna be good guy. There's gonna be guys like yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Austin Matthews gonna make it. All the Leaf fans will
vote for him.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, that's it. Like the biggest markets will win. That's
what I'm worried about. When they do the all fan
but again, you can't trust the writers. They stinks.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They say you should never meet your heroes, but they
never met Sean McDonough one of the most recognizable voices
in sport.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He calls everything. He's always done so at a high level.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I remember calling Boston Red Sox games, Monday Night football,
the world stories, US Open Tennis Tournament, Winter Olympics, the
Master's March, Madness, the college world stories. I had the
great delight of working with Sean on college football at ESPN,
where he became friends. And honestly, the inter of you
today should be about four nations being underway, in the
fact he'll be called the final hopefully Canada USA on ESPN.
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But more importantly I want to talk with the fact
that Toronto Blue Jays will always be etched in my
memory with Sean mcdonnough because he called it back in
ninety two, ninety three.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And still world champions, your Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The great Sean McDonough joins us now for some Kelly
Gruber and pap Border stories. Sean, it is so great
to see you, my friend.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Well, nice to see you and the rest of the
team here. Thank you for that introduction. I appreciate your
reading that just as I wrote it out for you.
And we're off to a flying start.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
You weren't even alive in nineteen ninety two in ninety three,
Where were you.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Kidding getting into hockey a little bit? Sean? You know,
your lead broadcaster with ESPN and twenty twenty one. How
kind of is it getting back into hockey? And what
have you seen from the game, how it's evolved, and
how has that evolved for you as a broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
We were out for about seventeen years, and I got
a kind of a rude lesson opening night in Tampa
Bay when we got back in because the game was
so much faster than it was seventeen years ago, the
last time I had done an NHL game. You know,
it used to be you could look down at your
chart and oh, who's number seventeen again? Yeah, And I
have a good story about him, and I'm going to
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start telling this story as soon as I find it
on my chart, And oh what happened? There's a goal?
Oh that was fast? So yeah, I kind of learned fast.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You know.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
The game has changed a lot for the better, you know,
and we saw that here in Montreal and opening night
of the of the four nations face off.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
You know the to here.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
John Cooper has been around obviously for a long time, say,
you know, that was the fastest game he's ever seen.
And there's a guy who's coaching Stanley Cup finals and yeah,
so the game, it's the game's better than ever. You
guys know it because you follow it every day. And
obviously JD you played at a high level. You know,
it's just players are bigger, faster, stronger, more skilled, and
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I think the game's better. The rules are better. You know,
the rules kind of support that. So it's been awesome.
Hopefully I'm up to speed now and looking forward to
this tournament.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Part of what makes your call so great, Sean is
that there's a really musicality to your voice, Like you
don't have to be a sports fan to enjoy listening
to Sean mcdonnal broadcast. And I can't imitate it, but
it would be something of the effect of you know
Crosby of the Platform, Corl Harbor and Nova Scotia, Like
your voice will rise as the play goes. Where did
you learn that from? How are you able to do that?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
How did that style develop.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
You know what, I don't know. I just think it came.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
And actually I don't know if it's from watching you know,
the great hockey announcers that I watched as a kid.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
You know, I'm up here with with Ray Ferraro, and
I was telling Ray's story. You know, when I was
first starting out out of college, one of my first.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Jobs was hosting the Boston Bruins between periods, pregame, post game.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
And I got the call, and I.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Was doing a lot of college hockey on nesson, and
that's been you know, the thread through the whole damn.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
So I'm here and you.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Know I called games that Mike Sullivan played and it
bu and David Quinn and John Hines and Keith could
chuck and you know, so you know they're still here.
You know, it's some of us are in our sixties now.
So you know, I was doing a lot of college
hockey and I got a call, Hey, Fred Cusick isn't
feeling well and we need you to kind of hurry
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up to Montreal. So the first NHL game I did
for the Bruins was at the old Montreal Forum and
it was just such a thrill. But I think I
watched Fred, you know, I kind of referred to it
as a crescendo style. You know that you should build
up to the big moment. If you come on the
air and you're screaming from the drop of the puck,
then where do you go when something really exciting happens?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You know? So I think you need to leave it
to me. It should just be to answer your question
after a lot of words. You know, it should be.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Instinctive, right, I mean, you shouldn't have to think about,
oh boy, this is exciting. So maybe I'm supposed to
yell louder now, or get more excited, or use really
flowery language. You know, you don't have time to do that.
And I think, you know, hopefully it's just you go
with the moment.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Really, is is there anything like kind of unwritten rules
that you don't do? You know, I just got into
you know, I do. I do some of the Sharks
play by play, and you know, I work with Dan Rusenowski,
who's fantastic, and Randy Hahn and and there's like some
little nuanced things that you really have. I never knew
when when starting a play by play, like not stepping
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on a goal and as just a reactionary thing. As
a player, I'm like, oh my god, that's a great goal.
But you're supposed to kind of stay silent, let you
take the call because that's your moment, and that's your
moment to kind of describe the goal and in such
a beautiful way. So is there any kind of other
unwritten rules or anything that where you're like, hey, this
is a big no no that you learned early on.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Uh, well, it's kind of to your question about getting
back in four years ago. You know, one of the
no nos now for me is storytelling all the pucks
in play. You know, everything needs to be one sentence.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
You know, it's and.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Then I actually learned this doing the Masters when in
the late nineties and the late great Frank Chuckinnion basically
invented golf on TV on CBS. He brought me on
to do the Masters, and he said, you're a great storyteller.
We want you to be a storyteller. But in golf,
when we go to you on your whole, we never
know how long we're going to stay. You know, it
might be live and Tiger Woods is putting to take
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the lead if we might come to you on tape,
and because the tape shots only twenty seconds, we're only
staying with you for twenty seconds because the tape ends,
so we have to go somewhere else. So I want
you to tell stories, but every story needs to be
able to end at the end of every sentence.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
And he gave me an exam.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
We said, I talked to Tiger Woods on the practice
range today and he told me he's.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Using a new putter. Right, you could stop there, but
if you have more time. The reason he's using a
new putter is, you know, is.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Back's bothering, so he wanted a longer putter so he
doesn't have to crouch over quite as whatever.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
So, and it's really a great lesson that I've tried
to take with me through all the other sports and especially.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Now in hockey.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know, we have a million notes on every player
on all four of these teams in the fort Nations.
I mean, you could just spend the whole game reading
notes and not describe the play. But you know, the
key is to weave them in when it makes sense.
The other challenge is, I'm sure you're experiencing Jason is.
In hockey, there's no natural rhythm.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
To when the analyst comes in. When the puck's in play.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Right, in football, they run a play, the play ends
for the most part of the analyst comes in.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Here's why that play did or didn't work. Here's the replay.
If there was nothing play, it might be a graphic
or something.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
And then you go back to the snap and the
play by play guy comes in hockey, you know, the
play might go up and down for ten minutes. So
and Ray Ferraro is down between the benches. He's not
right next to me, so I can't look at him like, hey,
do you want to come in?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Should I stop for a second? You know you could
go like this, you send him a player now to
the bench. So so you know, there you develop some cues.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
I try to every now and then pause, especially when
the defenseman's behind the net.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
There's at the game, the Sweden Canada game.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But that was incredible.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, I texted John Cooper and I watched after the game.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I watched the Kadian TV here does a great job
of carrying like every player and coach press conference live
or they turned it around fast. So I was watching
Cooper and as you guys know, he's just the best.
I mean, he was born to sit at the podium
after the game and answer questions and talk about it.
And so I sent him a note about, Hey, what
a special night and what a great game, congrats on
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the wind and I just want to say, like you're
the best ever in the postgame presser.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And he sent me a text back and it was
like he said.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
What a special night, simply wow, exclamation point, exclamation point
expa and that typical coop. Right, he just summarized it perfectly.
So yeah, it's a blessing to be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Sean will be calling the championship game on ESPN February twentieth,
and what's been a legendary career. Perhaps well the highlights
was what happened just a year ago. Interview with WCVB
and Boston before Game seven, Sean predicted only the David
Pashenaw will make an impact, but the Bruins would win
on a key goal by Pasta. How great was that
to call the winning goal shot?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I was totally lucky.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
You know, Uh, Duke Castiglione, who's the anchor on w
CVB with Channel five Boston ABC, if I have known
him since literally he was probably eight years old because
his dad, the legendary Joe Castiglione, is a Red Sox
broadcaster just retired and I just you know, won the
Ford Frick Award in the Baseball Hall of Fame and
just the nicest man on the planet too. So anyway,
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we're going to do that game seven Toronto and Boston.
There's so many storylines on both sides, right, I mean,
it's whoever loses, this is going to be excruciating. And
uh so, Duke says, Hey, we got a half our
pregame show leading in the game.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Will you come on for a couple of mens? Sure?
So I come on, and he know, I don't know
the leg here, I don't know the questions. I'm very upset.
I asked you guys to submit these in writing forty
eight hours in a dance. So I'm doing my best
to wing it.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
But so at the end, Duke says, oh, you know,
give me a prediction for tonight, and you know it's
I'm from Boston, It's it's.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
The home audit.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I'm not going, Hey, Toronto is going to win five
to one and Jim mccummery is gonna get fired after
the game, So you know, I just you know, Pasta,
it's easy pick, right, he's their best player, I said,
And I thought it would be a close game. So yeah,
it's gonna be close game. They're going to win it
on my Pasta. So then he scores an overtime and yeah,
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I was proud of that call. You know, there's some
nights you're like, oh God, why did I say that
or do that? But that one was, you know, And
to j D's point earlier about think you know, call
the goal, like call the big moment and shut up.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Sean, is there a call like, I know you've done
so many so it's probably so hard to pick one,
But is there a call that? And maybe you go
by sport, but that that really sticks with you as
something that maybe not your specific call it because I
know you you become kind of infamous a little bit
with the voice cracks, which I find it's just the
best thing ever emotion wise. But is there any kind
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of call where you were like this was just perfect?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
You know, some of the voice crack moments, I think
they add to people remembering the moment. You know, the Michigan,
Michigan State muff punt, you know, all Michigan do is
get the pun off and they win the game.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And heartbreak.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh he has trouble with the snacks free, you know.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
And but it goes back to what we talked about here.
Your call should reflect what's happening. And you know, I've
done a million college football games. We've all watched a
million football games. That's still the most shocking, stunning ending
I've ever seen. I mean, Michigan had the game won,
we were all but saying, what a win for Jim Harbaugh.
I think it was his first year as the coach,
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you know, and against the rival, and and Chris Bally
kept saying, you know, if you're a punter, just catch
the punt one step and kick it, you know, don't
even just Michigan State had eleven, they didn't have anybody
back for the punt. If they just got the punt off,
the game's over. And with hindsight, like I talked to
both John Harrball is one of my best friends, and
he and Jim, you know, they've all talked about with hindsight, Now,
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you coach, guy, hold everybody right, the telligences de lenment,
just tackle everybody, they throw a holding penalty, will punt again,
you know.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But so that was one.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
You know that I think the hopefully the call match
the moment I had a guy in the Atlanta airport
say you have a minute. You got to listen to this,
and he played like his voicemail that plays when you
call him, you get his answer machine, and it was
my call out of the play again, it's like, you know,
this is ken ghost party, you know, leave a message
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or whatever it was. Yeah, you know, and then Michigan people,
you know, don't kill the messenger. We don't control what happens.
You know, I would have yelled the exact same way
if it happened the other way, you know, if the
Michigan guy ran the ball in and Michigan State lost
in excruciating fashion.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I do want to say, Sean, somebody who knows
you and your family. Of course, the linn it from
your dad will and the relationship with your brothers and
your sister. But I was really taken by what you
said on Jimmy Traina's podcast with your aunt TUTSI.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I want you to talk about this because.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's important for somebody knows somebody who's respected as you.
It's not the most likely suspects are so critical in
your life, so I wanted you talk a little but Joyan,
I think it's a really heartwarming story.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Oh well, thank you appreciate it, you know, because she
really is the most important person in my life.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
I'll give the reader's digest version. When I was a kid, I.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Was the eldest of three at the time, my dad,
as you mentioned, sports.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Writer for the Boston called travel a lot. And my
parents get divorced.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
My mom had some significant issues that prevented her from
having custody of the kids. So the judge said, you know,
I inclined to give you these kids, but you travel
all the time. They were eleven, nine and seven. You
know what's going to happen when you have to go
to Minnesota to cover of the Red Sox and the
Minnesota Twins. So he was one of nine. One of
his eldest sisters, sister Mary Martina, known to us as
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Aunt Tutsi, was a nickname from her childhood by Irish
grandmother when she had her first teak and look at
the little tutsy because that's and she became on twitsy.
So she was a Catholic nun, a sister of Notre Dame.
To my bias for Notre Dame, she went into the common.
When she's eighteen years old, she went to Japan as
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a missionary and she never came back. She was there
for like twenty eight years. So my dad called her, Hey,
here's the plan.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You need to come back, move in with us. We
have as good for chunnel thing. It's luck. I think
it was meant to be.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
We had an all girls Catholic high school in our town,
Notre Dame Academy, which was run by the sisters of
Notre Dame. So come back, move in with us, help
me raise the kids. And she saved our lives. I mean,
we were really broken in a lot of ways and
she just nurtured us, loved us, showed us what it's
like to have God at the center of your life
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and how you live life, and that's the case how
you treat people and exist in the world.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
So yeah, she's a hero.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
You know, I said in that interview at Man and
you know, you know, and I don't mean to turn
this into the Billy Graham Gospel Hour here, but the
you know, to me, to be a Christian is to
follow the example of Christ, right and what.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
If you believe what I believe, he gave up his
life for us. What did she do? That's exactly what
she did.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
I mean, she loved her life over there, that's where
her whole life was geared to her that, but she
gave it up because she thought God was calling her
to come raise us. And that's what she did. And
thank you for asking about you know, Like when I
first started on this and people would recognize me as
in the Red Sox Games.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Of twenty five, people would make a big deal.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
About something, I thought, you know, what, what I do
really isn't that important, you know, compared to what people
like her every day. So yeah, the most important person
ever in my life. And I say that as someone
who idolizes my dad. I mean my dad, you know,
And you know I don't mean to diminish my dad.
And my dad was a superior human being by every
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standard as well.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Amazing that obviously, like your father was such a legendary
favor with those that don't know it, literally changed television
broadcasting by being an insider going from print to television.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Last story, then let's.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Make it about your dad, particularly how he would bait
the Boston Red Sox with some great nicknames.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah, And it was when I was doing the games,
so it wasn't doing me any favors.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
And I would say to many fan's.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Dad, did you have to call Roger Clemens, the Texas
con man. Yeah, you have to call move on mow Money,
you know, because Moe was always threatening to leave.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And I don't know, but uh yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
And I would have the players come over to me.
Sometimes they get mad at me, and I would say
to them, I don't know if you have a phone,
but here's my dad's number. I have nothing to do
with this, you know, just like if you had a
problem with something I said on one of these games,
I wouldn't expect.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
You to call my dad and yell at him. You know,
I'm right here.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
So yeah, but I had a few players over the
years come up to me and tell me my dad
was sometimes I'm not very nice names, but.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Yeah. So people said like, did your dad help you
along the way. I'm like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Pretty sure he probably helped me get a start at missing,
but I think he's gotten me fired twice.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
So you know, so it's it probably even now, it's
at some point, you know, it's uh. I remember what
you know when.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
You know you have no chance? Right, I'm thirty, I
get hired by CBS to do the World Series. And
I'm at the post office in my little town outside
Boston and a guy can times.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
She's, hey, congratulations, I just read that your dad helps
you get a big job CBS. You're going to be
calling the World Series.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Yeah, my dad decides who does the World Series for CBS.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
He just.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
He just calls belk Armisan and says, hey, my kid's
okay at baseball. Maybe shoul give them a chance. That's
what we got that little you know series in the fall.
Maybe you should give him a shot. But I do
take credit ad Man for the Toronto Blue Jays did
the series? Did they win a World Series before nineteen
ninety two? To take all that kind in the World
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Series for two years ninety two and ninety three, do
we know what happened both times?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Is that you got balloons?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, look at that, you got balloons. You gave the
peace sign, He gave some balloons.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Call no, that's that's that's some weird hand thing with
with phones. Now, if you do like a peace sign
or like it, combs up balloons that'll come up behind him.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Blue Jays were celebrating again.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That's but that's like that was perfect poetically died just
I mean.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
God has a hand and everything right on sending balloons
from heaven.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I love it. Four Nations Final again is going to
be on February twentieth. Let us hope it's gonna be Canada, Usa,
the great Sean McDonough. By the way, Sean makes us
home sometimes in Arizona. I'll be there for spring train.
So we're gonna get it. We're gonna get a dinner. Me
McDonough demurs. Together, I'm gonna tell more it's gonna be great, awesome,
so much.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Thanks for having me on. Guys.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
We'll get to cinepol in sixty in just a second
once again thanks to Sean mcdonney.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He was fabuloss hopeful.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
We'll get some golf out there in a z but
major news right now, that's just gonna be a remake
of Young Buddy kidding me. This is a movie which
has been blowup by hockey people for a long time.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
The fact there's gonna be a remake.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Giti, you can still skate, you can still play, You're
a charismatic guy. You're married to an actress. For God's sakes,
Joe can help you run lines. We gotta get you
involved here in young Blood the.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Remake, Yeah, I mean everything's lined up for me to
being this. I just don't understand. I do could put
on a French accent. I'll act thish, I'll act my
ass off in this. Kidding me again they bring in,
don't worry. I'll get this. My skates will be good,
the boots are still good, my hips are loose. Throw
me in. I could do the old young Blood triple deep,
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but that was my That's my favorite hockey movie growing up.
A lot of people will say slap shot or and
Slapshot is up there, But young Blood for me is
there is so much wrong with that movie. That's why
it made it so good. So much wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So cameras have just rolled on the movie and Hamilton
and Barry Ontario, with Hubert Davis directing. Young Blood follows
hockey pology dean Youngblood who joins the Hamilton Mustangs and
discovers he must face off against toxic behavior on the
ice and within himself. The original film star Rob lo
O Patrick Swayze can of Reeves in his feature film debut.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Low and Reeves are not on the bench to return.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Of course, Swayze has passed away, So I mean the cast,
including Ashton James as Dean young Blood, Blair Underwood, love
for him from Ellie Law. He was in Long Legs
with Nicholas Cage's pastor Deep Impact. He's playing the father,
Sean Doyle, Alexander McDowell. Again, a lot of these actors
are not major names. We gonna get Jason Burg's in here,
and this is one of the quotes. Young Blood is
not homage the movies of the eighties, but are reorienting
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of these films and ideas. Nice especially say that, especially
those about masculinity, which my generation grew up on throughout
our prog excuse me. Through a protagonist Dean Young Bob
explore the nuances of the black masculine experience via the camaraderie, brutality,
and triumph for the.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
World of hockey.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Listen, you maybe you could play the white racist. If
it's a film about black masculine, you'd play the wine race.
Look at Timur's playing the heel, all right, that would
show your range.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
At least.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm a huge wrestling fan, so you know, playing a
heel and not breaking kfe. It would be big thing
for me to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
No question.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
All right, let's do cinephile in sixties. So I gotta
get a couple things out of the way here before
JD's fired up talk with a couple of films he saw,
and I think all people out there would be interested
in the moral Dilemma of Juror number two and also
a Different Man A twenty four. They always do fantastic stuff.
It was not only an outstanding weekend for the Philadelphia Eagles,
but also for my man, Sean Baker and the film Anora.
Prior to going into this Oscar race, if you looked
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at the numbers, Emilia Perez thirteen Oscar nominations, the Brutalist one,
Best Picture of the Golden Globes, and Best Dictor for Brady.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So everyone thought they're the favorites.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, no, the PGA, the Producers Guild of America, gives
Best Picture to Anora. Let's go tell the DGA Directors
Guild of America gave their Best Director of War to
what not Brady Corbay for the Brutal List, but Sean
Baker for a Nora, Let's go tal. That means no
Nora is now in the driver's seat. They won the
PGA and the DGA. Get ready for the Oscars and
of course the Saga wards are still to come. A
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couple of documentaries want to briefly mention her because Tao
wan Be mentioned. Sugarcane, which is an excellent movie for
all those especially in Canada listening. It's about the indigenous
communities who were in these residential schools in Canada from
a century ago. It's a harrowing story. It's very sad,
the treatment of Canon, the First Nation Shad. It's just
appalling what happened decades ago.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, that's it. That's uh. I'm actually even watched that
tal you liked it. I I'm into my docu series
kind of documentary phase right now. But yeah, that was
It was a brutal time and all that stuff coming
to light.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
So yeah, it's Sugarcane's available on Hulu if you're gonna
watch it there, And honestly, it's a very very film.
And I saw No Other Land, which is fantastic Israeli
Palestinian collective and it's about what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
In Gaza, which is just a heartbreaking movie to see.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's a favorite right now to win Best Documentary at
the Academy Awards. And I mentioned Israeli Palestinian Collective. So
the story is they're focusing on this Palestinian village. But
what happens is an Israeli student for friends, well the
Palestinian guys, and they become friends. So basically he's trying
to say, listen, I'm trying to shed light on Palestinians.
What can I do to help you? That's how the
film actually came about. No distributor would touch the movie.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
They're way too.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Skinn OF's like, eh, Israel Palestine. But then the Oscars.
This is why people say why why the Oscars matter?
Because of this, because they mom maated the movie for
Best Documentary. Now, it's going to be slow theatrical release,
it'll be hopefully streaming soon.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's giving more attention what's happened to Israel Palestine?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And like I said, if it actually wins the Oscar,
if it wins her Best Documentary, a lot more people
are going to see No Other Land, which is a
great film. All right, let's get to Juror number two.
Clineaswood movie jad. He's made a lot of great movies,
especially later in his career. If you thought he peaked
with Unforgiven, for which he won obviously a bevy awards,
including Best Picture, you were wrong, Clint falls it up
a million dollar baby, great film. He's been churning him
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out for a while, and yet Warner Brothers kind of
bar his journy number two. It came and went.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But I'm with you. I thought it was a very
good movie.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Speak to us about why he liked it, particularly the
moral dilemma of the film.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, I just you know, the way they shot this
and kind of almost getting to the ending at the
start with with the dilemmas thrown right into your lap
and it's how do I get out of this? Obviously
the don't want to give away the plot, but I
just love you know, not only that, but the showing
the flaws and the justice system and showing how some
people will overlook certain things because they're trying to get
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ahead in life. But you know, having coming out as
a as a man with you know, I don't have
kids yet, but being in that you know, his wife's
pregnant and basically finds out if so facto that he
probably committed this crime, and what does he do? Does
he stay within this juror I don't know what would
(41:02):
you call that when the collective of Jersey just the jurors.
When he stays with the jurs does he prosecute this
guy that's obviously innocent, or does he try to do
the right thing get him off? Kind of tell oh, jesuis,
I'm falling over myself here. This is what I This
is what I look like when I'm trying to act smart.
I love your Yeah, thank you. It's this and that
(41:23):
towel's giving me the thumbs up. No are you? You know,
he's trying to absolve himself in his conscience. And then
it's kind of it goes it goes off the rails
a bit, but it's kind of one of those things
you're watching the movie and you're like, would I do
this in the same situation? Like what I just go
up to the you know, basically go up to the
judge and be like, I did it. This was my fault. Hey, sorry,
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because knowing full well you're going to go to prison,
or because you have a kid on the way, You're like,
I have to predict my family at all costs. That
is the main thing, is protecting my family being there
for him. So it was it pulls in a lot
of directions. And that's what I love about Clint Eastwood,
that that old bastard. He's ninety four, he still does
great movies. Now like it and you talked about it.
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We both said JK. Simmons, love JK Simmons, He's great.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Always a great way to two time guest talent.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
I did. I liked it. I liked it and and
like it's a good watch.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Right, interesting backstory about I mean, the film was completely buried.
Most people didn't even know about it when it came out.
I watched it on Max and I thought it was.
I like a film that kind of presents a scenario
that makes you wonder, what would I do if I.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Was in that situation. That's sort of you know, that.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
That personal judgment called questioning your own morality?
Speaker 4 (42:40):
A good cast too, very good.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, so I didn't get much ward discussion obviously,
zero Again, Clint Eastwood still still making compelling films in
his nineties is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And as far as what you would do The key
is you get the guy off because you don't want
an innocent man going to jail for God's sakes, and
then you run like the hills.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
And he did not he he got he he did
not get him off, and then he didn't he stayed put.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Last thought before he wrapped things up. Listen, my guy
is humble about his career. He'll say he wasn't that
great a player. But you walk around arena sometimes you'll
see a Demers jersey. What you'll not see is a
Demers Russia jersey. What is going on in the world.
We gotta find this guy.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I I like to say I'm probably the most
popular plug in Angel history. I'm up there, you know
as a guy that you be like, who's this guy?
But you know, I have a loyal fan base. And
they had my Akbar's Russian Kazan jersey, and we were
randomly I was We were just sitting having like a
(43:45):
couple of glass of wine. It was Brad Richardson's fortieth birthday.
And we're sitting there and we're watching the Sharks game,
We're watching their post game, and we're all talking. Then
all of a sudden, I'm looking on the screen, and
I'm like, that's where I played in Russia. I'm like,
that's the crest of the jersey. I'm like, why is
that guy? Where any turns and I'm the whole we
just all die and laugh and we're like, what the
hell this guy looking like a serial killer staring at
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the screen. I got to try to find him. I
tried to. I tried to tweet it out. He never
he must not have social media, like taller producer, but
so we can't get a hold of them. But yeah,
it's it's listen, it's hot out here for a pimp, dude.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
We gonna find that guy.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Seriously, I wish he had social media to find out,
like what led to you getting an AC bars fifty
five demurs, because if that's available, I'll get one too.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
I didn't realize that they're great jerseys. Yeah, great jersey. Yeah,
I like how you My final thought will just be
I like that you gave a shout out to a
Nora yeah, and then immediately went into stuff that was
very sad and and and kind of pulling on your heartstrings.
So I didn't come back and ship talking Nora was
very well sudden, you.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Can't go from a Nora to Sugarcane and Norla Land like, well.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, you're very bad. You know I'm not going to
touch that.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Israeli Palishon and collective you're laying out like go ahead.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
And yeah, that's a that's a veteran of the of
the TV media game. Sometimes you get a like the
great Sean mcdonne and said, sometimes you just gotta to
be quiet. The emotion speaks for itself. I wanted to
get you bad Bell, and I said, oh, we can't
do it. Now.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
We'll get you, but you'll get Thanks so much for
listening to h and Scripted. Thanks for previous guests like
Zach Rerensky was awesome. Seriously, go back and listen to
previous episodes. Zach was awesome and soon to come Alex
Gilagoski and by way, let's go ahead and tease him.
Jeremy Pivet, who does love Jeremy pivan He's gonna be
doing stand up across America.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He's an excellent new movie, called out the performance.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He's coming up next week, and of course we'll be
talking lots more four nations for demurzen Brook.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
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That's Right, Episode eleven. As we surge into double digits
here an NHL Unscripted, he's demersed on Burk. It's great
to have you with us. We're gonna be talking four Nations,
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and Jason Neverse called it I swear to God on
his social media. He said, Hannah in overtime, and they
did so against Sweden ahead of a fevers crowd there
in Montreal. We'll talk all about four Nations plus USA
now missing Queen Hughes, what that means for them. We'll
also talk for the quarter century teams. The great Sean McDonough,
who has been a legend in sports broadcasting for decades,
will be the voice calling the Four Nations Championship on
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ESPN February twentieth.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He joins us talk but all things not hockey. That's right.
That talks a little baseball, talks a little golf.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He was outstanding, and of course in the Cinephile and
sixty we're talking to movies. Jad's watched a ton over
the last little stretch as he serch towards the Academy Awards. JD.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What's going on, man, Good to see it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Good to see you, my man. It's nice to be back.
A couple of crowds country flights, and I had a
quick question. I want I wanted to save this for
you guys, because you know, I'm flying through the airport.
I'm going to I was going to Phoenix, so I'm
getting through security, and as I'm walking through security, there's
there's a woman with her two kids, probably five years old,
five and six years old. She's wearing a jacket. This
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little girl five or six again, she doesn't want to
take her jacket off. The mom's sitting there says, please, honey,
take the jacket off. Kids starts having a full on meltdown,
throwing herself on the ground, screaming like blue murder in
the in the airport, like blue murder. And the mom's
keeping it together because as a parent, I'm sitting there like, yeah,
(01:43):
I'm like, do you do you do you do you
hit the kid? Do you not hit the kid? What
do you what do you do? Do you do you
scream at the kid for just not have children, which
is why he's not Yeah, but this is this is
I'm asking with the kids. It's suns. Right, it's a
little loved that I got loved tapped when I was
a kid if I was acting up. But you know,
you got to realize there's tsa there's cops around, there's people.
(02:03):
So they get through the security and she's like on
the other side, the girls, like the young girl's like
now throwing herself on the ground, rolling on the unscreaming,
crawling under tables. What do you do there? Is it?
Is it a swing? Is it a spank? Is it
a hey, you wait till we get home? Or is
it like you just got to kind of grit your
teeth and be like that's it. I just don't know
as a parent you hit or not hit?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, no, you can't hit. But it's it's a lot
of self contained anger. But you're right, you're gritting your teeth,
like you just wait, like this is this is not filming.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
People are filming the mom and the kid because that's
how bad it was. I've never heard a meltdown like this.
I was three gates away and they were still up
on the concourse and I could hear the screaming, blood
curdling screams.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And tell you feel for the parent because everyone's judging
the parent, Like Jason said, whether or not you have
a kid or don't. But as parents, we've been there
our kids all ACKed up, but not it sounds like
this level towel.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
This is a mutant clearly.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
How you're a hitter too.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I can't seeyeah, I have a young son.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I can't say we've ever hit the fit public fit
in the airport stage of raising our child. But yeah,
I feel like for me, that's that's where you immediately
start the negotiation.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, hey, we're not doing this, you want to do this?
Not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But we're told you don't negotiate with terrorists. Tal you Tal,
You look like you seem reserved. You look like you
swing swing first, Ask questions later.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
My wife maybe just kidding, Keith, I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Tell's wife just let's swing first, house questions later. Speaking
of coming up swinging first, that's what the Philadelphia Eagles
did in the Super Bowl. I got to mention my
beloved Eagles demurs openly chirping on Twitter saying he doesn't
want to do unscripted this week because my gloating, but
I'll keep it brief. A bit of fancas nineteen ninety
thirty five years of fandom. Oh for our first twenty
eight years. It's now three Super Bowl appearances in the
last seven years and two championships. I don't know what
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to do with myself, but I'll tell you this, JD.
Going into this playoff run, I'm an idiot because I,
like many earlier in the years and fire Syrienne, Eagles
were two and two. They go into the Bible and
after that they're unstoppable. They won sixty of the last
seventeen games. The one blemish was against Washington, when Jade
Daniels threw five touchdowns every stretch of the playoff run.
I felt pretty good Packers rams once the lines were
out of like, oh we'll beat Washing again. But going
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into the Super Bowl, I have a few buddies now,
I have a few who are like blow up for
strem Like really, one of my friends actually goes forty
to nine, forty to fourteen Eagles. I'm like, Wow, I
got do Mahomes magic. I'm calling thirty one twenty four.
I text the manager of the New York Yankees, my
dear buddy, Aaron Boone, diehard Eagles fan.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He goes, I got twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The Homes magic makes you queezy going in And then
while watching the game, I said, what in the world
was I nervous about this Eagles defense? Picuarly that card
four absolutely overwhelming, And I can imagine for yourself, a
guy who doesn't have a dog in the race, what
a terrible Super Bowl Eagles boat raced him.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, I mean it was, It wasn't It was so
much fun to watch. I'm a defenseman, so watching defense
thrive and defense like really dominate. And to get that
kind of pressure with the front four like to be
able as a defense and football just drop everybody back
and still get to the quarterback is I mean, you
can't ask for it. That's you can't. You can't lose
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with that kind of defense because it's I don't care
how good of a quarterback you are. If you're getting
pressure in you all game from only four and you
are looking up and all you see his bodies ever
Eagles everywhere you're you're not. It doesn't matter how good
you were, Mahomes or not. So it was nice to
see the Eagles were the best team. I mean they
were fans and they didn't even have like a Barkley
game where he kind of ran rough shots. So I congratulations,
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it was born as shit. The how'd you like the halftime?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, so let's get to the music.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
So I looked like the halftime performance, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
A huge trombone shorty guy. He was great.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And Terrence Blanchard, who Spike Lee's longtime composed, he was
the trumpeter.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Right at the start.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Harry Connock Junior introduced him, so I was actually more
excited for that. And John Baptiste I thought did a
great anthem the way he did in the Land of
the Three. I thought it was a great star spangled banner.
I enjoyed those guys more than Kendrick Lamar. You and
I both not huge hip hop guys. You're more in
the EDM. I gotta be honest. The game got one
hundred and twenty six million. I believe Lamar might have
got one hundred thirty one.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I thought it was good. I know, I do know
some Kendrick Lamar songs, so I like it, and I
think he is like one of the best rappers and
hip hop artists of all time. So I think he's
he's that good. I just you know, I just don't
know how that plays in those those venues. Like my
wife's turning, She's like, it just doesn't work, like my
favorite one. And it's not because I like a certain
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genre more the other. But like the Bruno Mar when
Bruno Mars had his, I think it was like ten
twelve years ago, it was a show is incredible. It
was so good. You could bring on you know, you
can bring on people, guests to come in and help sing,
and you can really make it theatrical in a scene,
because that's what the super Bowl is. Unfortunately, like when
you bring in the hip hop and the rap, it
just doesn't play. It's too big of a stadium.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Let's get to the four nations. So I'm an old man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I went to bed after two period's like oh three
one Canada, we got this. You were locked in an
NHL network and I wake up today and you're just
sitting the messages going all my good Belsinger was rocket
what it finished?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like, what the hell happens?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So I watched the DVR and oh my god, Canada,
thank god beat Sweden four to three. But Krasa was unbelievable.
Three assists and the fans chanting his name. I did
see what Wayne Gretzky was saying at the second or mission.
He goes, you know, when I was getting older and
playing with young guys, it reinvigorated me. People often focus
in the young players. Hey, what's it like to play
with person a Gretzky Lemieux. Crosby goes, But he's invigorated
by playing with those guys.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
JD.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gotta type frek guy who it wasn't a hard
percent sure whether he was going to play for people
of four nations?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Who really cares?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Clearly Sidney Crosby at thirty seven years of ages taking
it seriously.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He was awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That whole game, the whole spectacle. You know, anybody that
thought this turn and hey, I was a little skeptical
of this tournament. I was like, is this really gonna
be our guy's gonna be given it? Or are they
gonna be going hard?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Is it gonna be good competition? And holy shit it was.
It was such a good event. I mean starting off
with just marye Lemue walking out at the start of
the game as the ambassador, coming out having a picture
next to Sidney Crosby, the place erupting and then the game,
physicality was up, you know it. Cannon was dominating early
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in the first period. I think Bell Center really carried them,
Like I think the fans were just next level, and
that's how good Montreal Canadians fans are and fans within
the Montreal area. And I think Sweden was just a
little kind of hesitant. They were a little bit scared
and you know, two nothing lead early and then Sweden,
who I think is a dark horse in the tournament
for me, I think they have the best decore in
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the tournament, a lot of NHL experience. They started to
kind of implement their game and I mean they held
Canada like twenty twenty two shots, which is which is
insane with the amount of skill you have on that team.
And you know again it was but it was the
Sidney Crosby show, like this guy is is every every
time we think he might be getting a little old,
you know, he comes out and he plays fantastic game,
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uses his brain. I broke down the three goals that
he was involved in directly him using his vision. I mean,
there's every every single clip of the goal and I'd
love and edit here if we put these clips here.
But before every goal he's he takes a look and
scans the ice and then that's where he ends up
going with the pucks. So in the mckinning goal, he looks,
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hees where McKinnon makes that little spin around my backhand.
Then when he goes to mark Stone, he literally looks
behind him says, Okay, mark Stone's coming late. I can
drive deep, turn up hit mark Stone. He does it,
and then in overtime he's looking where guys are coming
off from the bench and he's looking back behind him
where Mitch Marner is goes into the zone, drops it back.
Nobody really does that, and then gets out of the
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zone leads to the Mitch Marner goal. He's just he's incredible.
He is Captain Canada. And the crazy stat that I
want to really drive home here and drill home before
I let you get back on this is in international games, Sidney.
When Sidney Crosby is playing consecutively, he is twenty six
straight wins in his last twenty six international games. He's
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twenty six and zero. That is such an astronomical number.
When he is on team Canada, they have not lost
in twenty six games.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Dude, that's incredible. I did not know that one grave
concern the Shay Theodore injury. As soon as you hear
we're down to five defense an, what like, oh my god,
like geez, like this is this is the start of
the tournament.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I love cal mccarnan.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's great sing Drew Dowdy up there, but talk about
a potentially crippling injury.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, she you never want to see anybody get hurt
in this, and I think that was the fear of everybody.
And then he gets it. It didn't look good. He
went and got X rays and and Jackie Redman was
kind of commentating on TNT and she said he she
said she just saw it and it was like swollen
and typically that's a break. That's a breakover a sprain
and and he probably broke a wrist or forearm. And
(10:34):
I'm not you know, I'm not a doctor, but I'm
just saying I played one on TV. But uh yeah,
I'm just saying he got X rays and it's not
good because he you kind of saw. That's when Sweden
started to take over a little bit too, because he's
a puck moving defenseman, really mobile, and you know, with
Pareco and Dowdy, they're not as fleet of foot as him,
so it's kind of they weren't breaking out the puckets
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clean once he got injured. And those guys played a
lot of minutes. But again, all those all those deep
played you know, twenty five plus, So for them it
was fine, But that kind of atmosphere I think, uh,
it was tough and and you know, credit to them,
they kind of they bent but did not break. And
now Travis Sandheim comes in. But it's a crazy rule
that until they're at eighteen skaters, they can't replace anybody.
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So if another D man gets hurt, they have to
afford us to play D because the rule, the rule
is you're a you have to be at eight under
eighteen skaters to replace guys from other teams. So can
you imagine you're sitting in Cobos sipping on a cocktail
and two guys go down, You go, You needn't come
play for Canada against the USA on Saturday and watch
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Jesus two sheets to the wind.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It'd be a crazy atmosphere. Listen, you're always one for
four thinking of being different. How about three on three
in the NHL for ten minutes? How wild would that be?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I think it's I think it should be severely considered.
I know McKinnon talked about it and everybody's online saying, well,
you know, the top guys are gonna get tired. I'm like, well,
the ten minutes makes you play your whole life. Don't
just play the mckinnons for six minutes. He played like
six of the seven minutes, Nate McKinnon. See, of course
he's going to be freaking tired. He played six to
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seven minutes. Yeah, he's your best player, He's who you
want out there, but you need to have other guys
that play. And I think it would just it might
cause more goals because you'll have to put a third
line out there, a couple guys that don't typically play
three on three, And I just think, you know, if
you did that, That's the one rule I would like
them to look at is ten minutes. And then the
other rule in three on three if it's my opinion,
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and I'm sure Gary listens to this, so Gary, if
you're listening, is in the three on three, when you
have the puck and you cross the offensive blue line,
so you're going into the ozone to attack, you cannot
then bring the puck outside the blue line. You have
to stay in the offensive zone so you don't get
this thing where guys start just bringing the puck back,
bringing the puck back, bringing the puck back. It means
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you have to stay in the offensive zone until there's
a turnover. And I think you would increase play and
increase turnovers, and it would increase the it would kind
of speed up. I think the three on three a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's definitely. Listen, you think back
years ago and you go, oh, no, over time, it's
the way this they'll ever do a shootout that gets incorporated.
So the game does evolve and change, and you're right,
but just being things up instantly would make things exciting.
You predicted Canada USA as many are doing. You're predicting
USA to win. Of course, to Quinn Hughes injury that
could be notable and impact in such a short term.
Who knows how these things will go down, but Canada
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US and Saturday is gonna be must watch and potentially
February twentieth in the Championship with Sean McDon will be
calling in the ESPN. Sean is coming up here momentarily.
So first Nations off and cooking in the great city
of Montreal. I did want to hit you up as
well on this quarter century team. We were gonna get
this last week, but I know you're doing a little
bit of a talking on an NHL network as well.
So the fact that fans now have opportunity to vote
for the NHL's All quarter Century Team. The fan vote
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will determine the top twenty five players the past twenty
five years, regardless of position, that will comprise NHL Courter
Century Team, presented by sap SO. Voting conducted on both
NHL dot Com and x Fans will have one hundred
percent of the vote. Only players named to a club
first quarter Century team will be eligible four selection.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We're not gonna pick all twenty five JD.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
How about a starting six for the past twenty five years?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Jeez, Louise, that's too tough off the god.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's that's tough off the top. Crosby, Oh yeah, you know,
like I would recentcy biased like macar I think for
sure has got to be up there. Crosby, do you
I don't even know. Do you put Ovechkin in the
top six? I don't know, as he is the greatest golds,
you do, I would, yeah, okay, twenty five ors you
have I think you have to because there's nobody that's
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done what he's done to you go a Vetchkin. Yeah,
then you're looking past twenty five years. I mean you are.
Are you considering your boy Chris Pronger or I gotta get.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Chris Pronger There absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, not in the top six. You're nuts crazy, See
I baited. You need to into it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You need my god, I have to tick.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
The goddamn bad Yeah, Chris Barker, Yeah, I fan of
the show, fan of the show. No, McDavid, McDavid. And
then I'm probably, yeah, I need other defenseman, howbout the
day Chara? But yeah, but we argued that you argued
that Pronger is better than Charas exactly press. No, I
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mean I would probably Scott Needemeyer would maybe be ahead
of that. But I'm like, oh no, Nick.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
All right, So Listrom mccarr crossbild Vetchan McDavid. We just
did it on the fly.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, that's a good line too, decent line.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Just need a goalie.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Who's your pick?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The last twenty five years?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, Broder is kind of one where you can
be like you have carry Price, which I don't think
many people might take, but carry Price for me is
one of the best goal is. You could argue hell
about right now. But because he's breaking records, I mean,
there's there's so many goalies of cheez, let's go with Marty.
Then we'll say Marty, yeah, so just I'll let's just
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have Yeah, let's just let's do this off the top
and just have people skewer me.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We didn't have enough time to prep for it in faris.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
We just we're kind of throwing it out there.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
No, there's Yeah, there's so many guys. I mean it
just you think about twenty five years, it becomes very much.
I'm interested to see the more. The thing I'm more
interested to see is that it's one hundred percent fan voting. Yes,
so it's the big markets are gonna win. So it's
really gonna be good guy. There's gonna be guys like yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Austin Matthews gonna make it. All the Leaf fans will
vote for him.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, that's it. Like the biggest markets will win. That's
what I'm worried about. When they do the all fan
but again, you can't trust the writers. They stinks.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They say you should never meet your heroes, but they
never met Sean McDonough one of the most recognizable voices
in sport.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He calls everything. He's always done so at a high level.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I remember calling Boston Red Sox games, Monday Night football,
the world stories, US Open Tennis Tournament, Winter Olympics, the
Master's March, Madness, the college world stories. I had the
great delight of working with Sean on college football at ESPN,
where he became friends. And honestly, the inter of you
today should be about four nations being underway, in the
fact he'll be called the final hopefully Canada USA on ESPN.
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But more importantly I want to talk with the fact
that Toronto Blue Jays will always be etched in my
memory with Sean mcdonnough because he called it back in
ninety two, ninety three.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And still world champions, your Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The great Sean McDonough joins us now for some Kelly
Gruber and pap Border stories. Sean, it is so great
to see you, my friend.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Well, nice to see you and the rest of the
team here. Thank you for that introduction. I appreciate your
reading that just as I wrote it out for you.
And we're off to a flying start.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
You weren't even alive in nineteen ninety two in ninety three,
Where were you.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Kidding getting into hockey a little bit? Sean? You know,
your lead broadcaster with ESPN and twenty twenty one. How
kind of is it getting back into hockey? And what
have you seen from the game, how it's evolved, and
how has that evolved for you as a broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
We were out for about seventeen years, and I got
a kind of a rude lesson opening night in Tampa
Bay when we got back in because the game was
so much faster than it was seventeen years ago, the
last time I had done an NHL game. You know,
it used to be you could look down at your
chart and oh, who's number seventeen again? Yeah, And I
have a good story about him, and I'm going to
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start telling this story as soon as I find it
on my chart, And oh what happened? There's a goal?
Oh that was fast? So yeah, I kind of learned fast.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You know.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
The game has changed a lot for the better, you know,
and we saw that here in Montreal and opening night
of the of the four nations face off.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
You know the to here.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
John Cooper has been around obviously for a long time, say,
you know, that was the fastest game he's ever seen.
And there's a guy who's coaching Stanley Cup finals and yeah,
so the game, it's the game's better than ever. You
guys know it because you follow it every day. And
obviously JD you played at a high level. You know,
it's just players are bigger, faster, stronger, more skilled, and
(19:00):
I think the game's better. The rules are better. You know,
the rules kind of support that. So it's been awesome.
Hopefully I'm up to speed now and looking forward to
this tournament.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Part of what makes your call so great, Sean is
that there's a really musicality to your voice, Like you
don't have to be a sports fan to enjoy listening
to Sean mcdonnal broadcast. And I can't imitate it, but
it would be something of the effect of you know
Crosby of the Platform, Corl Harbor and Nova Scotia, Like
your voice will rise as the play goes. Where did
you learn that from? How are you able to do that?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
How did that style develop.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
You know what, I don't know. I just think it came.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
And actually I don't know if it's from watching you know,
the great hockey announcers that I watched as a kid.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
You know, I'm up here with with Ray Ferraro, and
I was telling Ray's story. You know, when I was
first starting out out of college, one of my first.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Jobs was hosting the Boston Bruins between periods, pregame, post game.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
And I got the call, and I.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Was doing a lot of college hockey on nesson, and
that's been you know, the thread through the whole damn.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
So I'm here and you.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Know I called games that Mike Sullivan played and it
bu and David Quinn and John Hines and Keith could
chuck and you know, so you know they're still here.
You know, it's some of us are in our sixties now.
So you know, I was doing a lot of college
hockey and I got a call, Hey, Fred Cusick isn't
feeling well and we need you to kind of hurry
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up to Montreal. So the first NHL game I did
for the Bruins was at the old Montreal Forum and
it was just such a thrill. But I think I
watched Fred, you know, I kind of referred to it
as a crescendo style. You know that you should build
up to the big moment. If you come on the
air and you're screaming from the drop of the puck,
then where do you go when something really exciting happens?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You know? So I think you need to leave it
to me. It should just be to answer your question
after a lot of words. You know, it should be.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
Instinctive, right, I mean, you shouldn't have to think about,
oh boy, this is exciting. So maybe I'm supposed to
yell louder now, or get more excited, or use really
flowery language. You know, you don't have time to do that.
And I think, you know, hopefully it's just you go
with the moment.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Really, is is there anything like kind of unwritten rules
that you don't do? You know, I just got into
you know, I do. I do some of the Sharks
play by play, and you know, I work with Dan Rusenowski,
who's fantastic, and Randy Hahn and and there's like some
little nuanced things that you really have. I never knew
when when starting a play by play, like not stepping
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on a goal and as just a reactionary thing. As
a player, I'm like, oh my god, that's a great goal.
But you're supposed to kind of stay silent, let you
take the call because that's your moment, and that's your
moment to kind of describe the goal and in such
a beautiful way. So is there any kind of other
unwritten rules or anything that where you're like, hey, this
is a big no no that you learned early on.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Uh, well, it's kind of to your question about getting
back in four years ago. You know, one of the
no nos now for me is storytelling all the pucks
in play. You know, everything needs to be one sentence.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
You know, it's and.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Then I actually learned this doing the Masters when in
the late nineties and the late great Frank Chuckinnion basically
invented golf on TV on CBS. He brought me on
to do the Masters, and he said, you're a great storyteller.
We want you to be a storyteller. But in golf,
when we go to you on your whole, we never
know how long we're going to stay. You know, it
might be live and Tiger Woods is putting to take
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the lead if we might come to you on tape,
and because the tape shots only twenty seconds, we're only
staying with you for twenty seconds because the tape ends,
so we have to go somewhere else. So I want
you to tell stories, but every story needs to be
able to end at the end of every sentence.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
And he gave me an exam.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
We said, I talked to Tiger Woods on the practice
range today and he told me he's.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Using a new putter. Right, you could stop there, but
if you have more time. The reason he's using a
new putter is, you know, is.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Back's bothering, so he wanted a longer putter so he
doesn't have to crouch over quite as whatever.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
So, and it's really a great lesson that I've tried
to take with me through all the other sports and especially.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Now in hockey.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know, we have a million notes on every player
on all four of these teams in the fort Nations.
I mean, you could just spend the whole game reading
notes and not describe the play. But you know, the
key is to weave them in when it makes sense.
The other challenge is, I'm sure you're experiencing Jason is.
In hockey, there's no natural rhythm.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
To when the analyst comes in. When the puck's in play.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Right, in football, they run a play, the play ends
for the most part of the analyst comes in.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Here's why that play did or didn't work. Here's the replay.
If there was nothing play, it might be a graphic
or something.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
And then you go back to the snap and the
play by play guy comes in hockey, you know, the
play might go up and down for ten minutes. So
and Ray Ferraro is down between the benches. He's not
right next to me, so I can't look at him like, hey,
do you want to come in?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Should I stop for a second? You know you could
go like this, you send him a player now to
the bench. So so you know, there you develop some cues.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
I try to every now and then pause, especially when
the defenseman's behind the net.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
There's at the game, the Sweden Canada game.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But that was incredible.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, I texted John Cooper and I watched after the game.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I watched the Kadian TV here does a great job
of carrying like every player and coach press conference live
or they turned it around fast. So I was watching
Cooper and as you guys know, he's just the best.
I mean, he was born to sit at the podium
after the game and answer questions and talk about it.
And so I sent him a note about, Hey, what
a special night and what a great game, congrats on
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the wind and I just want to say, like you're
the best ever in the postgame presser.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And he sent me a text back and it was
like he said.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
What a special night, simply wow, exclamation point, exclamation point
expa and that typical coop. Right, he just summarized it perfectly.
So yeah, it's a blessing to be able to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Sean will be calling the championship game on ESPN February twentieth,
and what's been a legendary career. Perhaps well the highlights
was what happened just a year ago. Interview with WCVB
and Boston before Game seven, Sean predicted only the David
Pashenaw will make an impact, but the Bruins would win
on a key goal by Pasta. How great was that
to call the winning goal shot?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I was totally lucky.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
You know, Uh, Duke Castiglione, who's the anchor on w
CVB with Channel five Boston ABC, if I have known
him since literally he was probably eight years old because
his dad, the legendary Joe Castiglione, is a Red Sox
broadcaster just retired and I just you know, won the
Ford Frick Award in the Baseball Hall of Fame and
just the nicest man on the planet too. So anyway,
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we're going to do that game seven Toronto and Boston.
There's so many storylines on both sides, right, I mean,
it's whoever loses, this is going to be excruciating. And
uh so, Duke says, Hey, we got a half our
pregame show leading in the game.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Will you come on for a couple of mens? Sure?
So I come on, and he know, I don't know
the leg here, I don't know the questions. I'm very upset.
I asked you guys to submit these in writing forty
eight hours in a dance. So I'm doing my best
to wing it.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
But so at the end, Duke says, oh, you know,
give me a prediction for tonight, and you know it's
I'm from Boston, It's it's.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
The home audit.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I'm not going, Hey, Toronto is going to win five
to one and Jim mccummery is gonna get fired after
the game, So you know, I just you know, Pasta,
it's easy pick, right, he's their best player, I said,
And I thought it would be a close game. So yeah,
it's gonna be close game. They're going to win it
on my Pasta. So then he scores an overtime and yeah,
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I was proud of that call. You know, there's some
nights you're like, oh God, why did I say that
or do that? But that one was, you know, And
to j D's point earlier about think you know, call
the goal, like call the big moment and shut up.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Sean, is there a call like, I know you've done
so many so it's probably so hard to pick one,
But is there a call that? And maybe you go
by sport, but that that really sticks with you as
something that maybe not your specific call it because I
know you you become kind of infamous a little bit
with the voice cracks, which I find it's just the
best thing ever emotion wise. But is there any kind
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of call where you were like this was just perfect?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
You know, some of the voice crack moments, I think
they add to people remembering the moment. You know, the Michigan,
Michigan State muff punt, you know, all Michigan do is
get the pun off and they win the game.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And heartbreak.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh he has trouble with the snacks free, you know.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
And but it goes back to what we talked about here.
Your call should reflect what's happening. And you know, I've
done a million college football games. We've all watched a
million football games. That's still the most shocking, stunning ending
I've ever seen. I mean, Michigan had the game won,
we were all but saying, what a win for Jim Harbaugh.
I think it was his first year as the coach,
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you know, and against the rival, and and Chris Bally
kept saying, you know, if you're a punter, just catch
the punt one step and kick it, you know, don't
even just Michigan State had eleven, they didn't have anybody
back for the punt. If they just got the punt off,
the game's over. And with hindsight, like I talked to
both John Harrball is one of my best friends, and
he and Jim, you know, they've all talked about with hindsight, Now,
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you coach, guy, hold everybody right, the telligences de lenment,
just tackle everybody, they throw a holding penalty, will punt again,
you know.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But so that was one.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
You know that I think the hopefully the call match
the moment I had a guy in the Atlanta airport
say you have a minute. You got to listen to this,
and he played like his voicemail that plays when you
call him, you get his answer machine, and it was
my call out of the play again, it's like, you know,
this is ken ghost party, you know, leave a message
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or whatever it was. Yeah, you know, and then Michigan people,
you know, don't kill the messenger. We don't control what happens.
You know, I would have yelled the exact same way
if it happened the other way, you know, if the
Michigan guy ran the ball in and Michigan State lost
in excruciating fashion.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, I do want to say, Sean, somebody who knows
you and your family. Of course, the linn it from
your dad will and the relationship with your brothers and
your sister. But I was really taken by what you
said on Jimmy Traina's podcast with your aunt TUTSI.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I want you to talk about this because.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's important for somebody knows somebody who's respected as you.
It's not the most likely suspects are so critical in
your life, so I wanted you talk a little but Joyan,
I think it's a really heartwarming story.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Oh well, thank you appreciate it, you know, because she
really is the most important person in my life.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
I'll give the reader's digest version. When I was a kid, I.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Was the eldest of three at the time, my dad,
as you mentioned, sports.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Writer for the Boston called travel a lot. And my
parents get divorced.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
My mom had some significant issues that prevented her from
having custody of the kids. So the judge said, you know,
I inclined to give you these kids, but you travel
all the time. They were eleven, nine and seven. You
know what's going to happen when you have to go
to Minnesota to cover of the Red Sox and the
Minnesota Twins. So he was one of nine. One of
his eldest sisters, sister Mary Martina, known to us as
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Aunt Tutsi, was a nickname from her childhood by Irish
grandmother when she had her first teak and look at
the little tutsy because that's and she became on twitsy.
So she was a Catholic nun, a sister of Notre Dame.
To my bias for Notre Dame, she went into the common.
When she's eighteen years old, she went to Japan as
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a missionary and she never came back. She was there
for like twenty eight years. So my dad called her, Hey,
here's the plan.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You need to come back, move in with us. We
have as good for chunnel thing. It's luck. I think
it was meant to be.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
We had an all girls Catholic high school in our town,
Notre Dame Academy, which was run by the sisters of
Notre Dame. So come back, move in with us, help
me raise the kids. And she saved our lives. I mean,
we were really broken in a lot of ways and
she just nurtured us, loved us, showed us what it's
like to have God at the center of your life
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and how you live life, and that's the case how
you treat people and exist in the world.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
So yeah, she's a hero.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
You know, I said in that interview at Man and
you know, you know, and I don't mean to turn
this into the Billy Graham Gospel Hour here, but the
you know, to me, to be a Christian is to
follow the example of Christ, right and what.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
If you believe what I believe, he gave up his
life for us. What did she do? That's exactly what
she did.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
I mean, she loved her life over there, that's where
her whole life was geared to her that, but she
gave it up because she thought God was calling her
to come raise us. And that's what she did. And
thank you for asking about you know, Like when I
first started on this and people would recognize me as
in the Red Sox Games.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Of twenty five, people would make a big deal.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
About something, I thought, you know, what, what I do
really isn't that important, you know, compared to what people
like her every day. So yeah, the most important person
ever in my life. And I say that as someone
who idolizes my dad. I mean my dad, you know,
And you know I don't mean to diminish my dad.
And my dad was a superior human being by every
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standard as well.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Amazing that obviously, like your father was such a legendary
favor with those that don't know it, literally changed television
broadcasting by being an insider going from print to television.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Last story, then let's.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Make it about your dad, particularly how he would bait
the Boston Red Sox with some great nicknames.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah, And it was when I was doing the games,
so it wasn't doing me any favors.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
And I would say to many fan's.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Dad, did you have to call Roger Clemens, the Texas
con man. Yeah, you have to call move on mow Money,
you know, because Moe was always threatening to leave.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And I don't know, but uh yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
And I would have the players come over to me.
Sometimes they get mad at me, and I would say
to them, I don't know if you have a phone,
but here's my dad's number. I have nothing to do
with this, you know, just like if you had a
problem with something I said on one of these games,
I wouldn't expect.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
You to call my dad and yell at him. You know,
I'm right here.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
So yeah, but I had a few players over the
years come up to me and tell me my dad
was sometimes I'm not very nice names, but.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Yeah. So people said like, did your dad help you
along the way. I'm like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Pretty sure he probably helped me get a start at missing,
but I think he's gotten me fired twice.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
So you know, so it's it probably even now, it's
at some point, you know, it's uh. I remember what
you know when.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
You know you have no chance? Right, I'm thirty, I
get hired by CBS to do the World Series. And
I'm at the post office in my little town outside
Boston and a guy can times.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
She's, hey, congratulations, I just read that your dad helps
you get a big job CBS. You're going to be
calling the World Series.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Yeah, my dad decides who does the World Series for CBS.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
He just.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
He just calls belk Armisan and says, hey, my kid's
okay at baseball. Maybe shoul give them a chance. That's
what we got that little you know series in the fall.
Maybe you should give him a shot. But I do
take credit ad Man for the Toronto Blue Jays did
the series? Did they win a World Series before nineteen
ninety two? To take all that kind in the World
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Series for two years ninety two and ninety three, do
we know what happened both times?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Is that you got balloons?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, look at that, you got balloons. You gave the
peace sign, He gave some balloons.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Call no, that's that's that's some weird hand thing with
with phones. Now, if you do like a peace sign
or like it, combs up balloons that'll come up behind him.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Blue Jays were celebrating again.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That's but that's like that was perfect poetically died just
I mean.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
God has a hand and everything right on sending balloons
from heaven.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I love it. Four Nations Final again is going to
be on February twentieth. Let us hope it's gonna be Canada, Usa,
the great Sean McDonough. By the way, Sean makes us
home sometimes in Arizona. I'll be there for spring train.
So we're gonna get it. We're gonna get a dinner. Me
McDonough demurs. Together, I'm gonna tell more it's gonna be great, awesome,
so much.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Thanks for having me on. Guys.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
We'll get to cinepol in sixty in just a second
once again thanks to Sean mcdonney.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He was fabuloss hopeful.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
We'll get some golf out there in a z but
major news right now, that's just gonna be a remake
of Young Buddy kidding me. This is a movie which
has been blowup by hockey people for a long time.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
The fact there's gonna be a remake.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Giti, you can still skate, you can still play, You're
a charismatic guy. You're married to an actress. For God's sakes,
Joe can help you run lines. We gotta get you
involved here in young Blood the.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Remake, Yeah, I mean everything's lined up for me to
being this. I just don't understand. I do could put
on a French accent. I'll act thish, I'll act my
ass off in this. Kidding me again they bring in,
don't worry. I'll get this. My skates will be good,
the boots are still good, my hips are loose. Throw
me in. I could do the old young Blood triple deep,
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but that was my That's my favorite hockey movie growing up.
A lot of people will say slap shot or and
Slapshot is up there, But young Blood for me is
there is so much wrong with that movie. That's why
it made it so good. So much wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So cameras have just rolled on the movie and Hamilton
and Barry Ontario, with Hubert Davis directing. Young Blood follows
hockey pology dean Youngblood who joins the Hamilton Mustangs and
discovers he must face off against toxic behavior on the
ice and within himself. The original film star Rob lo
O Patrick Swayze can of Reeves in his feature film debut.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Low and Reeves are not on the bench to return.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Of course, Swayze has passed away, So I mean the cast,
including Ashton James as Dean young Blood, Blair Underwood, love
for him from Ellie Law. He was in Long Legs
with Nicholas Cage's pastor Deep Impact. He's playing the father,
Sean Doyle, Alexander McDowell. Again, a lot of these actors
are not major names. We gonna get Jason Burg's in here,
and this is one of the quotes. Young Blood is
not homage the movies of the eighties, but are reorienting
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of these films and ideas. Nice especially say that, especially
those about masculinity, which my generation grew up on throughout
our prog excuse me. Through a protagonist Dean Young Bob
explore the nuances of the black masculine experience via the camaraderie, brutality,
and triumph for the.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
World of hockey.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Listen, you maybe you could play the white racist. If
it's a film about black masculine, you'd play the wine race.
Look at Timur's playing the heel, all right, that would
show your range.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
At least.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm a huge wrestling fan, so you know, playing a
heel and not breaking kfe. It would be big thing
for me to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
No question.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
All right, let's do cinephile in sixties. So I gotta
get a couple things out of the way here before
JD's fired up talk with a couple of films he saw,
and I think all people out there would be interested
in the moral Dilemma of Juror number two and also
a Different Man A twenty four. They always do fantastic stuff.
It was not only an outstanding weekend for the Philadelphia Eagles,
but also for my man, Sean Baker and the film Anora.
Prior to going into this Oscar race, if you looked
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at the numbers, Emilia Perez thirteen Oscar nominations, the Brutalist one,
Best Picture of the Golden Globes, and Best Dictor for Brady.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So everyone thought they're the favorites.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, no, the PGA, the Producers Guild of America, gives
Best Picture to Anora. Let's go tell the DGA Directors
Guild of America gave their Best Director of War to
what not Brady Corbay for the Brutal List, but Sean
Baker for a Nora, Let's go tal. That means no
Nora is now in the driver's seat. They won the
PGA and the DGA. Get ready for the Oscars and
of course the Saga wards are still to come. A
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couple of documentaries want to briefly mention her because Tao
wan Be mentioned. Sugarcane, which is an excellent movie for
all those especially in Canada listening. It's about the indigenous
communities who were in these residential schools in Canada from
a century ago. It's a harrowing story. It's very sad,
the treatment of Canon, the First Nation Shad. It's just
appalling what happened decades ago.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, that's it. That's uh. I'm actually even watched that
tal you liked it. I I'm into my docu series
kind of documentary phase right now. But yeah, that was
It was a brutal time and all that stuff coming
to light.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
So yeah, it's Sugarcane's available on Hulu if you're gonna
watch it there, And honestly, it's a very very film.
And I saw No Other Land, which is fantastic Israeli
Palestinian collective and it's about what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
In Gaza, which is just a heartbreaking movie to see.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's a favorite right now to win Best Documentary at
the Academy Awards. And I mentioned Israeli Palestinian Collective. So
the story is they're focusing on this Palestinian village. But
what happens is an Israeli student for friends, well the
Palestinian guys, and they become friends. So basically he's trying
to say, listen, I'm trying to shed light on Palestinians.
What can I do to help you? That's how the
film actually came about. No distributor would touch the movie.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
They're way too.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Skinn OF's like, eh, Israel Palestine. But then the Oscars.
This is why people say why why the Oscars matter?
Because of this, because they mom maated the movie for
Best Documentary. Now, it's going to be slow theatrical release,
it'll be hopefully streaming soon.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's giving more attention what's happened to Israel Palestine?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And like I said, if it actually wins the Oscar,
if it wins her Best Documentary, a lot more people
are going to see No Other Land, which is a
great film. All right, let's get to Juror number two.
Clineaswood movie jad. He's made a lot of great movies,
especially later in his career. If you thought he peaked
with Unforgiven, for which he won obviously a bevy awards,
including Best Picture, you were wrong, Clint falls it up
a million dollar baby, great film. He's been churning him
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out for a while, and yet Warner Brothers kind of
bar his journy number two. It came and went.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But I'm with you. I thought it was a very
good movie.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Speak to us about why he liked it, particularly the
moral dilemma of the film.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, I just you know, the way they shot this
and kind of almost getting to the ending at the
start with with the dilemmas thrown right into your lap
and it's how do I get out of this? Obviously
the don't want to give away the plot, but I
just love you know, not only that, but the showing
the flaws and the justice system and showing how some
people will overlook certain things because they're trying to get
(40:41):
ahead in life. But you know, having coming out as
a as a man with you know, I don't have
kids yet, but being in that you know, his wife's
pregnant and basically finds out if so facto that he
probably committed this crime, and what does he do? Does
he stay within this juror I don't know what would
(41:02):
you call that when the collective of Jersey just the jurors.
When he stays with the jurs does he prosecute this
guy that's obviously innocent, or does he try to do
the right thing get him off? Kind of tell oh, jesuis,
I'm falling over myself here. This is what I This
is what I look like when I'm trying to act smart.
I love your Yeah, thank you. It's this and that
(41:23):
towel's giving me the thumbs up. No are you? You know,
he's trying to absolve himself in his conscience. And then
it's kind of it goes it goes off the rails
a bit, but it's kind of one of those things
you're watching the movie and you're like, would I do
this in the same situation? Like what I just go
up to the you know, basically go up to the
judge and be like, I did it. This was my fault. Hey, sorry,
(41:44):
because knowing full well you're going to go to prison,
or because you have a kid on the way, You're like,
I have to predict my family at all costs. That
is the main thing, is protecting my family being there
for him. So it was it pulls in a lot
of directions. And that's what I love about Clint Eastwood,
that that old bastard. He's ninety four, he still does
great movies. Now like it and you talked about it.
(42:07):
We both said JK. Simmons, love JK Simmons, He's great.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Always a great way to two time guest talent.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
I did. I liked it. I liked it and and
like it's a good watch.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Right, interesting backstory about I mean, the film was completely buried.
Most people didn't even know about it when it came out.
I watched it on Max and I thought it was.
I like a film that kind of presents a scenario
that makes you wonder, what would I do if I.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Was in that situation. That's sort of you know, that.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
That personal judgment called questioning your own morality?
Speaker 4 (42:40):
A good cast too, very good.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, so I didn't get much ward discussion obviously,
zero Again, Clint Eastwood still still making compelling films in
his nineties is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And as far as what you would do The key
is you get the guy off because you don't want
an innocent man going to jail for God's sakes, and
then you run like the hills.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
And he did not he he got he he did
not get him off, and then he didn't he stayed put.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Last thought before he wrapped things up. Listen, my guy
is humble about his career. He'll say he wasn't that
great a player. But you walk around arena sometimes you'll
see a Demers jersey. What you'll not see is a
Demers Russia jersey. What is going on in the world.
We gotta find this guy.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I I like to say I'm probably the most
popular plug in Angel history. I'm up there, you know
as a guy that you be like, who's this guy?
But you know, I have a loyal fan base. And
they had my Akbar's Russian Kazan jersey, and we were
randomly I was We were just sitting having like a
(43:45):
couple of glass of wine. It was Brad Richardson's fortieth birthday.
And we're sitting there and we're watching the Sharks game,
We're watching their post game, and we're all talking. Then
all of a sudden, I'm looking on the screen, and
I'm like, that's where I played in Russia. I'm like,
that's the crest of the jersey. I'm like, why is
that guy? Where any turns and I'm the whole we
just all die and laugh and we're like, what the
hell this guy looking like a serial killer staring at
(44:07):
the screen. I got to try to find him. I
tried to. I tried to tweet it out. He never
he must not have social media, like taller producer, but
so we can't get a hold of them. But yeah,
it's it's listen, it's hot out here for a pimp, dude.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
We gonna find that guy.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Seriously, I wish he had social media to find out,
like what led to you getting an AC bars fifty
five demurs, because if that's available, I'll get one too.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
I didn't realize that they're great jerseys. Yeah, great jersey. Yeah,
I like how you My final thought will just be
I like that you gave a shout out to a
Nora yeah, and then immediately went into stuff that was
very sad and and and kind of pulling on your heartstrings.
So I didn't come back and ship talking Nora was
very well sudden, you.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Can't go from a Nora to Sugarcane and Norla Land like, well.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, you're very bad. You know I'm not going to
touch that.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Israeli Palishon and collective you're laying out like go ahead.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
And yeah, that's a that's a veteran of the of
the TV media game. Sometimes you get a like the
great Sean mcdonne and said, sometimes you just gotta to
be quiet. The emotion speaks for itself. I wanted to
get you bad Bell, and I said, oh, we can't
do it. Now.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
We'll get you, but you'll get Thanks so much for
listening to h and Scripted. Thanks for previous guests like
Zach Rerensky was awesome. Seriously, go back and listen to
previous episodes. Zach was awesome and soon to come Alex
Gilagoski and by way, let's go ahead and tease him.
Jeremy Pivet, who does love Jeremy pivan He's gonna be
doing stand up across America.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
He's an excellent new movie, called out the performance.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He's coming up next week, and of course we'll be
talking lots more four nations for demurzen Brook.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
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