Seth Jones' fresh start: Surging Avs, bye bye Big Rig and a Snow White remake no one wanted.

After marveling at Quinn Hughes' on-ice wizardry, Jason Demers and Adnan Virk predict a Gabriel Landeskog return for the playoffs and break down how the Bruins firing and the Blues hiring Jim Montgomery affected both teams (spoiler: it was better for the Blues). Then Florida defenseman Seth Jones stops by to discuss his big trade to the Panthers, practicing with Roberto Luongo and the Luka Doncic trade. Finally, Jason and Adnan get into the disastrous live-action Snow White remake, John Tortorella's last stand in Philadelphia (note: we recorded this episode before the Flyers fired Tortorella) and Jason's tearful goodbye to his beloved 1958 Apache. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart
Podcasts episode seventeen. Coming at You an NHL Unscripted Give
it to Us, JD. He Yeah, we got thumb nails.

(00:28):
Seth Jones is our special guest today. What a story
for Jones. He goes from Chicago to Florida now fighting
to perhaps with a Stanley Cup of the Panthers team.
He's got great stories, but his journey including even talking
all sports and now of course his father played in
the NBA. You can talk with Luca, donta trade You're
gonna like Seth Jones a fellow defense with JD talking
about the game. We got lots of good stuff today. Man,

(00:48):
this is the Avalanche right now are rolling. The Blues
are rolling right now, Big rig is getting ready to
say goodbye. There's lots right not coming from the world
of hockey. And plus the little Selle filling sixty. As
George Foreman passes away, I'll tell you strue about being
in the movie Big George Forman plush tails from the road,
Thank you for me. Game a home game here Amazon
Prime Monday Night Hockey is we had the Canucks and

(01:08):
the Devil's a game which Ged was watching on ESPN.
Shout out to Steve Levi and PK. Soo. Man saw
them at the rink. Let's talk, Canucks, heard the.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Call, heard the call. He heard PK's call.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Canucks. Dude up against it. Talking to Rick Talk ahead
of time. You know, they were eight points up on
the Blues coming out of four nations for a walker spot,
and now going into that game, we're five points back.
And talking to Talk as he was telling us, he's like,
you know, there has to be that sense of urgency.
This truly is a must win game. And watching that game, Ged,
Canucks are down. He said, oh my god, and somehow

(01:41):
they pulled out. They win the game in the shootout.
And even though he didn't have a point, every time
Quen he uses on the ice, he's mesmerizing. Number forty
three is so much fun to watch. You as a
defenseman can speak to this. The fact he's a workhorse,
plays twenty five and a half minutes a night, which
is the most in the NHL of any defenseman. He
leads his team in every major category with the exemption
of goals, in which he is fourth, but assist points

(02:03):
minutes twenty two more with any other player on his team.
Could you argue Ken Hughes is as viable to his
team as anyone in the NHL?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I mean he if you're defining the heart and you're
defining exactly what it means to win that he is
up in that category. I don't know if he'll beat
and Nathan McKinnon this year or potentially Kale mccarr, but
there's just levels to the NHL, and there's you know,
we talk about like the comparison between Austin Matthews and
to Connor McDavid and Nathan McKinnon were like, he's an

(02:34):
elite player, but there is like just a small class
that's above everybody. And I kind of put Connor, I
put Nathan McKinnon, I put Cale McCart and I would
put Quinn Hughes in that category because he is so
you said, mesmerizing. It's a perfect word to sum him up.
Every time he touches the puck. It's like he could
take an end to end every shift if he wanted to.

(02:55):
It's just I think he it's almost like he tries
to drag his teammates into it and help him. But
like especially the not only that last game against the Devil,
but the Rangers game before when he was just bringing
it up the ice, trying to get the team back
into the game, and he's so hard to get a
beat on. He's it seems like he might have been
I think he looked better the last two games, but

(03:16):
playing through an injury as well, and he just doesn't
get enough credit for what he does for this team.
And the fact that there is even rumors that they
weren't going to resign him and potentially trade him is
some of the most comical shit I've heard in my life.
But yeah, it's I don't know if they have the
jews to make it. I don't think they do. They're battling,
but it's hard to kind of it's gonna take all

(03:38):
of Quinn Hughes to be getting three four points a
night for him to catch the Blues right now, because
the Blues are rolling.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Could be a catastrophic loss against the Rangers traffic. Let's
try to get could be a catastrophic loss against the Rangers,
which they lost five to to only twelve shots on
goal but clearly weren't able to come through. Let's bring
in tal who was missing an action. Last week tal
when I watched Quinn Hughes again, the word that comes
to mind is elusiveness and just his level of skating,

(04:03):
Like Jad was saying, he can go and a time.
Can you think, with your rich knowledge of history and
thinking of like great skaters, who's the guy that you
think with Queen Hughes in terms of the elusiveness, who's
a player that you can't go at him because he
goes around you.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Let's see. I want to see if you get it. Tell.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I feel like the best comps are contemporary players, Like
we're not used to seeing guys like this, like mccarr
is now the standard. We never saw a guy like
that before, and now we have Lane Hudson and other
younger guys coming into the league whuld do similar things.
For me, this seems like a more recent phenomenon where
you just let you know your your d man, just.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Carry the play all game long.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'm JD's looking at me like I should be thinking
of someone, So I'm wondering who that would be.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, he's yeah, I was about to give you
that Ah, well done, Avy, I wasn't gonna get that one.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I was trying to go back further, and I'm thinking, like,
who are the talks ten twenty years? Yeah, well Bobby Or,
I mean, we can talk about Bobby Orr. You know,
obviously I didn't think we would go back that far,
but yeah, I know Paul Coffee is you know, that's
the that's kind of what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Although I feel like.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
These guys now, you know, Paul Coffee's a little bit
before my time, but I feel like the guys are
seeing now, they're like Jad was saying, they're bringing their
team into it. They're not just going and to end,
you know, rushing back and forth. They're they're slowing down
the play. They're looking for the open man. They're they're creating.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Plays for other guys.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Where I feel like every Bobby Orr or Paul Coffee
replay or highlight we you see was them doing it
all by themselves. These guys are I mean, they're playing
chess and everyone else is playing checkers.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Love that analogy A thought on the Devil's JD because
this was fascinating. Sheldon Keef sot the other the day
he calls it Covid Sevic. I'm still laughing just the
way with d Covi se basically, you know, we have
to have like more urgency. It was it would be
better if he played better, like he just buries him.
So the great Andy Patrillo, who you work with an
HL Coast to Ghost part of our coverage as well.
We're talking to Sheldon Keith the morning Scrub and someone

(05:54):
has to kind of bring it up. So Andy saysn't
it very light hearted?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Men?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I're like, hey, so kind of a fun press conce
the the day. And Sheldon Key's point was, listen, I
just watched him because before I gave that press coss,
I just watched the compari shift in which he was
the main reason the goal was allowed. So it was
a little salty, like, yeah, was it trying to make
a point? Yeah, with the great Steve Coullius, one of
my old colleagues here at NHL Network Radio, just burying
Sheldon Keef.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And his point was this, you can't kill out your stars.
You don't cant out Mitch mar you don't call out
Austin Matthews there with Toronto. You go to the devil's
in you.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Colin coma savage, covid sevag comes so much more, and
you're calling him out.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
His point of sention was that, like, that's the guy
you're gonna pick on. Sheldon Keef taken heat for that.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You can't arrow dirty laundry, and you can't speak from
a place of emotion, especially as a coach like you
just can't. And it's just it's one of those things
that I just don't think it's in poor taste. I
don't like it, especially if Jonathan Cove said you when
you listen to his comments, he's just answering a question,
being like, hey, yeah, we got to like have a

(06:59):
good mentality. Of course he's not. Of course he's probably
critical of his own game. But you can't do that
because then now Covid Sevig sees it. Now you just
add Field to the fire. And Sheldon keeps kind of
been known in the past. You see him on the bench,
he's very animated. He's always kind of making a face,
he's rolling his eyes if things aren't going right. And
in the media sometimes he'll say a comment and then
it's tough to walk it back, like oh, yeah, I

(07:20):
just watched the game. Well now you're showing me as
a coach that you make a lot of decisions based
on emotions. So when you're behind the bench, what are
you doing with these emotions? And are you letting your
emotions get the best of you?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
No question about it. The Devil's lose that game, and
I feel like they're in trouble. They're going to make
the playoffs and all likely the third place on the metro.
But it's amazing if you look at their season. They
got that great start, they have not been the team
since then, and now they're clearly being a little bit
awry as the head of the playoffs. Obviously missing Jack
Hughes hurts. I'm not making excuses, but there's always so
much that Nico, Heastri, Etceter can do. Timo Wyre did
have a couple goals in that game to play well.

(07:55):
All right. Speaking of playing well, Avalanche rolling eleven to
one and won their last thirteen games. Amazon Prime will
be in Denver, by the way on Monday. Cannot wag
flames and ABA hopefully ill got to sit down mccannon
or mccarr will see this is kind of crazy. Do
we look at all the work they've done And you
and I were talking off their and you said, yeah,
good luck. Stop in the aves. As far as the
Stanley Cup this season, the crease right now is Mackenzie Blackwin,

(08:16):
Scott Wedgewood, Martin Nachius, brock Nelson, Charlie Coyle, Jack Drury,
Jimmy v c Ryan lingren Eric Johnson and return. They've
given up much celebrated Miko Ranton and Casey Millstatt, Calvin
de Haan, prospects, cal Ritchie and Nikolai Kavalenko, sam Gerrard
and Josh Manson both coming back from injury, and now
the captain Gabrielle Landiskog has been a regular participant in

(08:36):
practice for the last few days. I could just see
McKennon mccarr and argue that the Avalanche are a favorite,
as you and I have said before. Also Avalanche Stars
are going to be an incredible matchup. Because I know
you're feeling the ass but I might go ahead and
zag and say I'll pick the Stars in that match now,
Andrew the other day's shut out, I love Ranton On,
this team go to the next level. But you're saying nothing
stopping the Avalanche right now. You're and by the way,

(08:58):
Ball Arena, they're unbeaten ten ten in a road by one.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Uh they're just on a different level right now. And
and you know, GM McFarland does not get enough credit.
You know, I think we were all a little bit like,
why are they trade Rand? And I mean he had
a plan and he stuck to it, and me and
Tow were talking before we started recording that I don't
know in recent memory or even where you can go
back to in time of a GM retooling a team

(09:24):
this early in a season and having it work out
the way it's worked out, Like they just kind of
came in first ten games of the season and said, no,
we're good, let's change. Just let's get rolling, all right,
complete rehaul, retool of this team. And look at what
it's done. It's just been They've just exploded. They've just
went to another Martin Nchis has more points than Migo

(09:45):
Rannon right now, Like that's that's crazy coming from everybody.
Was kind of like Marty Nhs doesn't really fit in Carolina.
He has been dynamic, he has been incredible, He has
been everything that they could hope for.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, it certainly has been amazing. It's worked out because
you know that trade and to go okay, are the
avalanched giving up. Well, no, like Rantley just realized his
contract isn't gonna work in terms of the cap, he's
gonna be getting one hundred million dollars, which he alus's
now getting from the Dallas Stars. Don't want to get
up there with the Avalanche. But it's interesting, do you
think Landeskog? I mean, is he coming back to the
playoffs or what?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I man, You're not. You're not.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
There's no way you're creating a documentary about yourself, selling
it per tal and then having it be released this
season where you're coming back to skate with the team.
I've heard from a couple inside sources that he had
some setbacks, but he's he is trending in a direction

(10:40):
and I foresee him coming back into the playoffs. I think,
I just why would you do it? And I watched
a couple of those practices that they aired. You know
there he looks very good, he looks very fast, he
looks very explosive. And now Tal like we're kind of
talking about this, especially with in terms of rights and

(11:00):
everything like that, this is probably a long process for
him to sell them. So he's already known for a
while that he's coming back, and these are all pre recorded,
so it's kind of like I think it's just there's
a crescendo coming, there's a climax coming, and it's going
to be him playing in the playoffs. And I mean,
we were just talking about it too before, Like, I

(11:22):
don't see a world in which just having Landeskog on
the bench can't benefit your team, even if he's playing
four or five minutes a night and just being physical.
He's a leader, he's he knows what he's doing. He's
a he's a there's guys that can do it. I
know everybody says two years off, there's guys that can't
do it. Like I probably couldn't come back and just
play and be super effective. I could probably be somewhat effective.

(11:44):
But guys like him that have a pedigree, winning pedigree,
they know how to play the game. They're special players.
Like we forget because it's been a while since he's
been back in the league, but he is very good
and he understands how to play the game. He's got
a very high hockey IQ. Plays penalty killed, plays power play,
and I just don't see a world in which he
doesn't come back and doesn't be impactful for this team.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Tell well, yeah, just like you said, even if he's
getting a few minutes a game on the fourth line,
think about the lift that they're getting from having their
captain back and just a guy who plays like Landescog,
so physical, so assertive on the ice, and the last
time he played, he lifted the Stanley Cup. I mean,
it all feels to me like it's ready to culminate

(12:27):
in the playoffs. And you mentioned the doc. I've watched
a bit of it. I mean, there's clearly a media
strategy here from Landiscog and his team, whether it's his agent,
I don't know if he has like a media team
that he works with, but yeah, well he clearly does.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
On this doc.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
But I don't know if they were working on stuff
before this happened. But and I mentioned when we were
talking about it's not like the NHL approached him and said, hey,
are you interested in producing a doc about your rehab
and will produce it with you, Like this was something
that was clearly produced internally. His team got together, you know,
maybe even last summer. Who knows when this all started,

(13:04):
but they got together and said, okay, let's start getting
some footage. Let's start filming the rehab. Let's start sitting
you know, Landeskog down for some interviews and walking us
through the whole process this. There's this clearly a very
specific media strategy in mind, and it's hard to imagine
that they would do that and put all this together

(13:24):
and make the deal with with Turner and Amazon and
make sure that the whole world is seeing this without
an idea that he it culminates with the big finale,
the big third act, you know, the big reveal at
the end where he's back on the ice. I mean,
it's it's it's a great script. Whoever's writing the script
with team Landeskog is doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Adam, what do you think, like, why would you, you know,
why would they have this documentary come out if not
for the to what tow's point, beautifully beautifully put point.
He's he's so very charismatic in the words that he
wow and and says.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Bury him earlier and you're giving him his flowers.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
But yeah, but I like to break him down to
build them up. That's the way we get him, and
that's where we get him. We've we've established our method
add non of how we do it we are hammer
and nails, baby, hammer and nails, right, yeah, one nails, yeah,
hammered to thumbnails. Now, but what do you think? I
don't think you're creating a documentary without you hoping or knowing,

(14:24):
because a lot of this is pre recorded that you're
going to come back one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I mean you're practicing right now in late March of
the playoffs for a few weeks away. I couldn't imagine
Planetskuck does not come back it. As Tale said, it
feels that script is being written and it could be
fasting how this goes again. I'll be there in Denver
on Monday. I'll ask him. I'll go wrapup to him. Okay,
is lantuskog around like I'm gonna just a few minutes.
Hopefully we'll have Joe Sakic on set as well. Cannot wait,
Joe Sakic, ew Sackic. As Bob Cole said back in

(14:48):
two thousand and two, all right, let me tell the
Saint Louis Blues what a stir this has been. Man
Monty fired by the Bruns November nineteenth, It gets hired
by the Blues five days later. It's all good, right,
He's already assistant there it happens. I'm tired of Boston
all good thirteen two and two. Since the four rations,
they've now won seven games in a row. That the
second Walkard spot in the West. Bruins, by the way,
I have lost six in row entering Wednesday's action, they probably

(15:09):
gonna miss the playoffs for the first time to twenty sixteen.
So good for Monty as he's having the good vibes
right now, and for Saint Louis. The notable Blues right now,
Jordan Cairou has been great, Dylan Holloway as well, and
Robert Thomas. These three right now JD scorching for a
Blues team and even a week ago when you looked
at it, Sorry, who do you handicap this? I'm like
you tossed till a year away. Flames don't have any offense.

(15:30):
Ave Lott Cadree sick goal last night, a couple of goals.
They came back and played overtime.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Got another thirty goal season. Vancouver has discussed bad loss
of the time, but the Blues. The Blues are the
best schedule. Of their last thirteen games, ten were against
non playoff teams, three against the Predators. But a thought
on those three guys jd Cairou, Holloway, Thomas leading the way.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, you look at the youth movement there and these
this is gonna be a team that's going to be
very good for a long time. Just you know, so
much credit to Doug Armstrom going offer shooting, Philip Broberg
and Dylan Holloway because we.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Didn't even mention him. They're going to be around for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Robert Thomas is a very underrated tudred foot player, and
Jordan kiro is just so.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Explosive game breaker. You need those.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
But it's it's a team that has so much belief
and you look at Jim Montgomery. How the hell did
they let this guy go from Boston? Just what a
miss after miss by Don Sweeney and Bosson. Just a
brutal season from a GM I think in all respects
like it just sometimes doesn't go your way, to the
Marshan trade, to everything, it's just been awful decisions and

(16:31):
typically he does the right thing. So this has been
a huge miss on his season. But all the more
reason and more power to Doug arms from swinging for
the fences and this team believes they got a nice
mix of veterans on the back end. They have great goaltending,
they have a gamer, a proven winner in Jordan Binnington.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And then you look at that line, they have piss too.
I like it. They got a little piss.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
They got a couple of piss jugs there. You know
Brayden Schen, you got Nathan Walker, you got Tucker on
the back end. It's just these guys. Dylan Halways got
some bite to him too. But these guys are just
playing so well together. They love together. You could see
the fun they're having and it's very reminiscent of the
twenty nineteen Blues that we thought they.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Were done in the wall at the right time.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Second, here they come on there, goddamn horse, let's ride bitch.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well it's a great story, but I don't know how
dangerous they are necessarily because you have this stretch where
you go well, because they're playing well. I look at
this momentum, the streakiness. But I'm like, oultimately, when I
look at the lines of the death of Cil against Winnipeg,
I'm not called the Blues to beat the Jets. I
would be genuinely surprised. But no, unless how about craps
about as he has in the past. I guess. But
I'm like certain teams, I go, yeah, they're playing we momentum.

(17:37):
They can be streaky, they can do something. The Blues
I think are a great story. I don't necessarily see
them causing chaos. Can playoff time. They're doing great against
inferior opposition. I think when the Gold gets tough, I
don't I like dangerous.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I like dangerous youth. I always think it'll give somebody.
But here's the thing, let's let's let's put a bow
on this one. But Saint Louis keeps winning, Vancouver's scrounging
and battling, Minnesota wild faltering a little bit, making me
nervous because I think they thought they had a cushion
and then all of a sudd sudden, the Blues just
go all world and then everybody's chasing. Let's not forget

(18:08):
Calgary flames too. Like these guys you talked about, Nazam Kadri,
what amazing back to back overtime winners. But like the Minnesota,
while I gotta be careful here because I know they
have a lot of injuries, but they got to get
some points. We talked about last week that I find
ninety six points is the is kind of the is
the cutoff. That's where the playoffs the last wildcard spot

(18:28):
is about ninety six points. They're at eighty five right now.
That's eleven points, about five six wins they're playing of
the two of the teams in their last run of
games are against non playoff teams. The rest are playoff
teams and teams chasing them. It's gonna be tough sledding
and this would be an epic collapse.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
But but all people, I hadn't even thought about it.
You're right, so like, no one's even said this could be.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I kind of tweeted that. I tweeted the last time.
I was like, should Minnesota Wild? Should they be worried
in the fans? And I got about five six Wild
fans being like, yep, we'll.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Get Mark Parrish script. I got to work with them
a couple weeks ago. Oh and Perry a great guy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Loves like to get him fired up.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, no question about it, one thought here. Because of course,
the great chase continues. Ovechkins Curricle eight eighty nine Tuesday
against the Jets. Historically against the Jets Slash Thrasters organization.
He's always had success. He's six back now, breaking Wayne
Gretzky's all time goals record last game of the season
April seventeenth against the Penguins. If Obie breaks the record
that night, do you think Crossby would come out for

(19:31):
the ceremony as well? Along with Bretzky and Gary Bettman
also in the building.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
He's six away and he's got what twelve games? Yeah,
I mean for it's gonna go white down the wire.
I don't know, that's that's whatever he's saying. That's what
we're all saying on the network. We're like, that's hard
for a good player to do that. Six and twelve,
and like we're kind of like, yeah, he's doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's done. Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know, we were able to, you know, snag the
Dylan Stroman interview, and he mentioned it in the interviews.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like eleven games left to be specific.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Thanks eleven. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
We're like, he we hope he gets it this year,
but we have a holy two left. I think it'll
be next year. I was kind of you know, I
think it will, but you know, we're going with the
NHL Network April fifth, we're going DC. We're going to
d C to do like an NHL now nice and
hopefully he's like around three or you know, three or four.

(20:22):
But uh yeah, I think it's it's amazing. It would
be awesome if it's in Pittsburgh. I think we all
wanted to be in Pittsburgh against sid you know, Gretzky
Betman in there from his office, like his last goalie
scored from his office is like that's where I think
everybody wants to see that finish. It's just him tickling
the goddamn rafters and just blowing it through the net

(20:42):
and then just throwing a stick down and doing the
the heat stick when you know when he did.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
It back in the day.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Would be the best selly then take off his helmet,
rip his jersey off, get butt naked on the ice
and hang on, I'm not doing and give the finger,
just say I'm retired Russia Gune and then just lee.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
It would be just the best.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Seth Jones are coming up after this. He's now remember
the Florida Panthers pushing towards the Stanley Cup. We'll ask
about his career and playing with the Cats. Edyburd along
on the ice that's next. Our special guest today on Unscripted.

(21:24):
Drafted fourth o'verroall by the Nashville Petitors in twenty thirteen.
He is a four time All Star. Part one most
significant transactions this season heading into the trade deadline, he
was acquired by the defending champion in Florida Panthers. What
a pickup he's been for them. And welcome to South Florida,
Seth Jones. Welcome to Unscripted, Seth. Great to see him, man,
thank you so much for joining us. First and foremost,
how have you been acclimated so far after making this

(21:46):
rather important move here over to Florida.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Yeah, it's been great so far, and it all happened quick. Obviously,
when you get traded in this season, it's a whole
lot different than being traded in the off season. There's
not much time to really think about it and process it.
Right away, you're on a flight. The next day, you're
playing one or two days later for a new team
with a new system, new players, So just trying to
step in. Just play my game right away, whether it's

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power play, penalty, kill, five on five, just be solid.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
And I kind of learned the system on the fly.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
I've been doing a lot of video with the coaches recently,
obviously this first couple of weeks, trying to get everything down.
But I feel decent right now.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
What's kind of been the best thing and toughest thing
mindset wise, because you know, you go from Chicago, you
guys are rebuilding and everybody knows the situation there, and
then you're going to a Cup contender and it's kind
of like, not that the games don't matter in Chicago,
but it's a little bit different vibe before the game,
and then you come here and it's like your pedal
to the metal, Like how was that for you?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Mindset wise?

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yeah, it's definitely different.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
You know, not that we weren't trying to win in Chicago,
because we definitely were, but we're it's definitely, i think, organizationally,
a different time frame and where where they wanted to
win or what their goals were as an organization, and
nothing against Chicago, you know, they were, you know they
have they're kind of in the rebuild stage. Like you said,

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they're more about development right now. And I think, you know,
when I got traded here, it's great that you know,
they're in more of a win now. Mode where they're
using assets, they're using picks to make the team better
at deadlines and trying to go all in. So definitely
have different mindset, like you mentioned, whether it's preparation before
the game, little things like that, where every single game

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does matter. You know, we're sitting at the top of
the standings right now and we want to keep that
and every play matters, every game matters.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Chicago's obviously in a different situation right now. Before we
flip it to floor, I do want to ask you
one thing with the Blackhawks set and watching Connor, but Dart,
you know, coming into the league with that kind of
feign affair, what do you make of the way that
Connor has handled himself and certainly all the hype around him.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
I mean, Connor is a very mature kid.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
He got the weight of the world on his shoulders
from day one, you know, even before the draft happened,
before he was drafted to Chicago. He feels that pressure
every day. He feels the need to win and you know,
kind of put the organization on his back, so to speak.
And it's a lot for an eighteen nineteen year old
to do that, but he handles it very well. Handled

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the media very well every day. He's one of the
hardest workers I've seen, first one of the rink, last
one off the ice, constantly does the little things, works
on his face sox every day. So you know, he's
a special player. He's going to be a special player
in this league for a long time. And I know
that he wants to continue to get better every year
and help drive that team to be a playoff contender again.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know, coming into this Panthers team and you know
you're a veteran now and a leader, and you know,
coming into the league with the Nashville Predators, you know
you had probably one of the great leaders of all
time and Shae Weber, Like, what did you learn from
him that you've kind of taken with you throughout your career.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Yeah, Shaye was an awesome leader.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
I lived with Shae the first six months of my
rookie season, through camp through the first few months of
the season, and I think just the way he handle
his business every day.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
He wasn't the biggest talker.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
He wasn't in the locker room all the time, you know,
every single intermission, art, every single pregame, you know, being
super vocal. But when you stepped on the ice, you
understood it was all business. He understood he was going
to give one hundred percent effort and lead by example,
and that's what he did day in and day out,
whether it was practice or the game or an off day,
you know, doing the proper things to maintain his level

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of energy throughout a season. So I definitely took a
lot of those things with me. I'm not the most
vocal person in the locker room, and never really have been.
You know, I think everyone's different when it comes to that,
But I think work ethic is the most important thing,
and I think that can translate in the locker room
fairly easily.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
You gotta give me a good you gotta give me
a good Shade Weber story early on, like, because everybody
sees him as just like the mean mug. And you know,
he slashed me once when I was in Arizona, and
I thought he took my leg off, and I was
the scariest human alive. There's got to be an endearing,
funny story you got of him, especially living with him.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Oh man, the story I have a webs is I
was actually at the rink on an in the middle
of summer and we're doing one timers. I'm nineteen years old,
and you know, I'm probably shooting like eighty miles pro
one time from the side, and we're shooting him, and
then you know there's no going in net. And this

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guy is probably he's usually like a one to twenty
five flex. I think he's got the harder shot I've
ever seen. I mean, it comes off different, it sounds different.
And there was one puck that missed the net and
no one knew where it went. It didn't ring around
the wall, and I went over and there's a hole
in the boards, and you put a damn hole on

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the boards.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
I think I ended up tweeting it.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
TSN picked it up in a couple other people, but
it was I've never seen that before. That was the
only time I've ever seen someone put a puck through
the boards from the top of the circle.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
And I mean he didn't need a screen from there
on the top. He never did it was hitting the
goalie or or was going on.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
As he wound up of the way.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Patrick Hornk was actually a net front guy for those
first few years, and he was one of the best
net friend guys I played with. But he would be
diving across the net trying to screen.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
For him, and I'm like, man, you don't need to
do that. He's gonna break your arm.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Not just reputations, Shaye Weber and that amazing shot. I
want to ask you, speaking of guys who are verbal
and our vocal Brad Marshan, how shocking was it to
have him now on the team coming over the Boston Ruins.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, that was big.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
I think we were just sitting in the locker room
and we saw that obviously on on the screen. And
he's definitely a personality. I don't know Marchi's too well.
You know, obviously I played against him or whatever, and
you know maybe some All Star games, you know, been
in the same room as him a couple of times.
But he's definitely a character. He came in, he's in
the group try right away, chirping guys. Just his attitude,

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his hisn G brings to the rink has been awesome.
Hopefully he can step into the line up here pretty
soon and start playing too.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's like bru It's like he's I could just imagine
him Bennett and Kit Chuck. It's going to be like,
you know, probably the love fighting fighting each other and
stuff like that. But I mean you you grew up
kind of in that respect with your brothers and in
a sports household with your dad, but you know you
chose hockey. Your dad was basketball and you chose hockey.
And talk about that moment where you were like, I

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want to play hockey and this is the sport for me.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Yeah. I think it started.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
It was kind of the vibe of the city when
the Abs were really good in two thousand and two
thousand and one and a lot of kids started playing
hockey in that time.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
I think they did. They lose a two thousand and
then winning oh one, I believe in the in the finals.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, I think.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
So I was able to be at that game, Game
seven one.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
I think their salary cap was well over one hundred
million that year. I mean there's probably six or seven
Hall of families.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Getting paid there. Yeah, that was a hell of a team.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
You know, Sackic passes the cup to Bork one of
the all time great moments in NHL history. So I
was there, and I was, you know, six seven years
old at that time, and I started playing hockey maybe
year before.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
But that's really where.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
I fell in love with the game you had the
game I was at game seven, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Yeah, I think it was against Jersey, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
So I was at that game with my family and
some friends because my dad had played for the Nuggets
back in the day, so he had some connections for
tickets and so that was obviously an all time great
moment for me and really propelled me into the hockey
world and wanted to play. Also, my older brother and
younger brother, we've all three started playing at the same

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time and the rest is really history. No one, no
one really enjoyed playing basketball unless it was pick up.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
You know.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
We had the sport court in the backyard. We had
the basketball hoop with the hockey net, and the hockey
net would get used the whole time basketball.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Who really, it's funny on the coast sometimes, right. Dad
was a start the players going in a different direction.
It's amazing and it's at that speaking of your journey,
you're part of that historic gold medal USA team back
in twenty thirteen the World Juniors and fourteen no longer
Johnny Gudrou with us, but some of these other names, J. T. Miller,
Jacob Truba, Vincent Trochick, John Gibson, Jake McCabe. How special
was that unit?

Speaker 6 (30:24):
That was a very good team. I think when we
went in I don't even know if we were the favorites.
I think it was a lockout year, so I think
a lot of teams had their draft picks from the
year before playing. Yeah, but we went into that tournament
with you know, I think we had an attitude and
a confidence. Definitely obviously having you know, a John Gibson,

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the net didn't hurt. He was outstanding that tournament and
he won many games for US. But you know, I
think when it comes to World Juniors too, it definitely
helps that you're with a lot of those guys at
the US program a couple years before, so the chemistry
is already there going into that tournament, which is a
big deal. I think in such a short tournament, you know,
five seven games, it's a ninety three group and it

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was a ninety four group, So that.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Was a very special moment. It was an UFA Russia.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Not sure if you've ever been there, you don't recommend going.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I played in Russia. I kind of enjoyed it,
But UFA stinks.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Uf was not great.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
It is not kind of a mining town, just not
a lot area was amazing.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
It was like it was like an NHL arena in
kind of the middle of nowhere where all.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
The money went exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's it's yeah, that's it. It's oof like it's uf
uh very good time. Yeah, I mean that listening it
like playing in Florida. Now that you're there and you've
played in some fun towns, you know, uh, Nashville, Columbus, Chicago,
but coming into Florida, it's really different. I played there
for a year and what's really cool about is you

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have a lot of outlets to like get away from
the game if you need to. And is there you
big golfer, is there anything kind of that's tickled your fancies.
Once you saw you're going to Florida, You're like, oh shit,
like I might be able to go fishing or go
golfing or something like that and really kind of get
some vitamin D and take care of the body.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
I think it is important in the middle of a season,
especially a long season, to get away from the game
and not drying yourself in it, you know, whether you're
winning or losing. And you know, like this week we
had two days in a row off next week. I
think we have two days a row off. Again, we
don't play for four days. So you know, a couple
of guys have boats, like you said, go fishing.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
I am a I like golf. I don't love it.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
I'm in Dallas in the summertime and it's super hot there,
so sometimes I'm like, I'm not dealing with the one
hundred and ten degree heat to play golf unless you're
going at six thirty in the morning. But I do
like golf. I do like getting outside. You know, you
go on beach walks, you do little things like that.
Obviously being here in Florida, that can take your mind
off certain things and just get away from the game.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's always nice. That's when you know players who are
so well known with it our Francis are still a
part of the team. I've read and seen that Robert
a little Longo sometimes skates with the guys that practice.
If you've seen Louis skate with you guys at all
while you've been there.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
But my first actually my second practice day, I saw
him before practice and I, you know, I said, hey,
what's up.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
I had no idea he was skating.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
And then I'm getting ready and he's on the ice
taking shots for practice.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
I'm like, what is going on right now?

Speaker 6 (33:22):
I think I think Bob had a day off that day,
and I think they have a little thing. You know,
Bob will tell him the night before if he's taken
the day and then he'll come out, so we have
a second goalie. But it was it was pretty funny,
and you know, he still got it.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
He's still got it, that's sure.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
He's not a lot of net.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
To shoot on.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, there's not a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
He's a little little bigger than he was. He just
likes to scream at the D. There's not a guy
that screamed at the D more than ROBERTA.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Long him.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Don't screen him, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Don't screen him. How's how's being back? You?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
But you played with Bob and and I mean how
how nuts is number one? His work ethic? But just
his ability to I mean, I don't want to say
adapt to the NHL, like certainly because he kind of
changed his game a bit and struggled and then found
his game. Like how cool is it to see his
evolution from when you played with him in Columbus to now?

Speaker 7 (34:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
I mean he nothing has changed since I was in Columbus,
I think till now, when it comes to off the ice,
preparing for practice, preparing for games, he's caught. You know,
every time you see him he's on the bike. I'm
pretty sure. I don't really know if I've seen him
when he's not on the bike at the rink and
you know, or preparing his gear or getting mentally ready

(34:34):
for the game. He's got a I just think it's
such a locked in mindset that nothing can face him,
you know, And he's a great teammate. If you watch him,
whether it's in between whistles or TV timeouts or you know,
at intermission, he's always tapping the guys. He's always given Knox.
He's always whether the game's going good or bad. It

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could be going he could give up four you give up,
you know, have a shutout going at the time. But
he's always very positive and he comes to the rink
and he does his job, and you know, it's there's
definitely something to say when a guy plays as long
as he has, and I think he's I think he's
thirty six years old now, but he's still you know,
even he's just so locked in, I mean, so locked

(35:17):
in and this guy may play till he's for another
ten years.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
With how he takes care of himself.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Thirty six. I can barely get out of bed right now.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Last one for me, Seth, only because you mentioned the
NBA bloodlines with your dad and being a Dallas guy.
Thoughts of the Luca trade. I still can't believe we
even discussed that, Like, don't just go to La awful?

Speaker 7 (35:40):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
I you know, when I went to the rink, everyone
was obviously saying it was awful. I didn't think it
was awful. It depends how you want to look at it.
Right now, it's awful because Davis and Kyrie are hurt,
so yeah, but I think if you had Kyrie and
Anthony Davis and the pieces they had, they could have
contended this year. It's just I think when you look
at the big, bigger picture, trading a twenty five year

(36:03):
old superstar for injury pro and Anthony Davis, I'm not
sure that was the right one.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
There might be something better out there. But Anthony Davis
is no joke.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I mean, yeah, well he's healthy.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
He's just injury prone and so clearly that it already happened.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
It's the first game. I think he played for the
Magyars growing or something like.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
He looked.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
He had like twenty six and thirteen in the first
half or.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Something that was incredible.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
But yeah, I mean, obviously the Lakers are set for
the next ten years. I have a superstar, you know,
box office player.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Amazing man.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Hey, seth Uh, listen, I really appreciate your time, especially
after packing up all your stuff in Chicago and on
your days off then coming here and entertaining us to
uh hooligans, which that's certainly added. And tell not me,
but good luck the rest of the way, buddy, say
hi to Teddy Richards for me. He's the man, one
of the best trainers in the game. Get a big

(37:02):
hug from me and keep him keep him on the
straight and narrow. So thanks buddy, good luck the rest
of the way.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Perfect. Thanks, A lot of guys appreciate.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
It all right.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Thanks once again to Seth Joes who was awesome. Big
George Foreman left us, which is a really sad moment. Obviously,
the former heavyweight champion of the world passed me the
last five at the age of seventy six. Or for
this week's cine File and sixty I'll tell you a
few stories. But the two time heavyweight champion and Olympic
gold medalist because I got to be in this movie.
Big George Foreman got the role. Me and my buddy
Robert Floores, of course, colleague at MLB Network and longtime

(37:37):
friends from our days at ESPN both and he and
I both boxing fans. So they cast us and Jadi
were in a recording studio.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Of course, you're.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Familiar this with Gillian Muller. And what they do is
you have the video there for the scene. Now they've
already cut the scene, they've shot, they've ended it. It's
just a matter of, you know, voicing over. And so
George Tillman comes on. He's a director, just like this
on Zoom and he's great. They like any true director.
You just do the take and then he's right, that's great,
let's try it again. And my M not sure, but
you're married to an actress wife. I just stick to
exactly what I did. Unless the producer slash director, remember

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it is guiding me. I do it. Because if they
say we'll trot like this, then I try differently. If
they go we'll do it, if I will, otherwise I'll
give it to you because I'm like, I get it.
They just want to take a certain way. They want
to hear a certain way. And George is great. After
we do a few lines, it's literally couplets. I'll give
one line, Robert gives one line. He pauses, Okay, go again,
go again. They give you the three dots. Boom me
go again. He says, you know, you're robertson a little
similar and he knows I can't go any other level

(38:26):
because rolflll knows. Mefle's like, I'll go down a little bit.
You know, we're don't have to do accents or anything.
You know, we're not trying to Howard Cussell here, but
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
We go ahead.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
We're doing it.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
We do the whole role. Okay, great, And as you
know these things, it takes forever, even though you know
you're just reading lines. It's fairly straightforward. But the funniest
part is George, because here's this one line we're having
a problem with the goy sure, and it's Foreman's legs
are rubbery and all these legs are strong, and I'm like, yep,
he goes, Foreman's legs are rubbery and all these legs
are strong. He was like, what would you say if
you were calling a fight. I was like, well, you know,

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I called a few fights for the Zone. I would
just say he looks ghassed, and Roberts like yeah, I
would say looks shot, and George looks us and goes.
You know, it took us months to got to get
that line. You guys do about five seconds. Go ahead,
do what you guys just said. So the funniest part
was at the end he was all right, forget all
the script. I want you, Robert, just call the fight.
Don't even look at the script. Just call as if
you're on the monark. Call in the fight. Mac, Great,
we do it. We have it. Blast. It's awesome and
especially that great moment for those that don't know the

(39:17):
rum in the Jungle. I'm telling Flora, I'm like, dude,
we're not gonna get k out of the fight. It's
Rumble the Jungle. Very famously, George Foreman was the heavy favorite.
Ali went in there as the underdog wins the hearts
of everyone in zi year the great documentary Rumble the Jungle.
Those you may have seen by Leon gast won An
Academy Award. Ali plays Ropodope, eventually comes to life, knocks
out Foreman. He loses the fight. So that's a really
the moment the movie comes up to Netflix. They sent

(39:38):
me a copy head of time because I interviewed George
for Cinophile and I'm so excited for this moment. I gues,
this is great and I'm watching I okay. As always
with editing, they always take out a lot, right, so
you look cut one line there. I'm like, okay, one
line there, and then the big moment like here we go,
and George makes the artistic and correct decision but devastating
to me to completely mute our sound ups the music

(39:59):
to a crescendo, and in slow motion you see big
George Foreman tumbling to the canvas like a oh like
any other actor. Dating. All my best stuff left in
the editing floor. But you can check out Big George Forman.
You can still catch a few Chris Mannix who covers box.
You can tell right aways, no I could touch your voice.
You had like six lines gout my best line, like
where I really lost my shit didn't make the cut.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
The editing room is a thankless place and it's just
a dark crevasse.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
And how many times has Jill told you they shouldn't
have ran that take? My other take was better. Why
why did choose that take?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
She never I think everything she did just they never
cut it out.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Everything was a plus it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, it just could be, could be a you problem.
I know, Rest in peace, George. Just amazing, amazing career.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I know, speaking of Cinophi, you want to talk a
little bit of snow White as well. The latest live
action adaptation of an animated Disney classic, forty three million
dollars domestic opening in a film that costs two seventy
to make, delayed by COVID actors strike a set fire,
and now's before they pushed the films released in a
whole year back backlash of her old comments from star
Rachel Zegler, not your how the best way to cast

(41:05):
dwarves if you can call them the seven Dwarves? Your
thoughts at all this? I know you were impassioned.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Impassion.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's just more like like Disney, like just stop trying
to remake live action, Like stop, don't remake something from
nineteen thirty seven, and then just butcher the whole thing.
Put some young girl on that's never seen it, that
ends up just shit talking the story the whole time.
I'm like, then, just don't do it. Come up with
an original thought. He had some great stuff early on.

(41:35):
Come up with an original thought. Stop remaking these live
action pieces as shit that just don't do well. And
then the whole time it's just now it was marred
by a lot of you know, COVID happened and the shutdown,
but this just was just awful. And then number, you know,
number two on a long list of shit, Peter Dinklic
coming out and just just causing.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I mean, he's he cut more.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
War winning actor from Game of Thrones. He's fabulous.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
He's a little person.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, no, listen, his comments cut more jobs than Elon
Muskin Doge. It's like, just think of all the stand ins,
Think of all the actors that would play the seven Dwarfs,
the stand ins, the stunt doubles, all those people know
jobs by Cassis, sunder for Ai, more technology, more cjed.

(42:26):
It looked god awful. It's I couldn't sleep for two
days after looking at that. Peter Dnklish, Rachel Zegler, Disney
just complete failure. And it's showing up because people aren't
gonna go because people smell that shit a mile away.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, I listen. I was amused when these big ten
pole movies fall apart like that, And I'm with you
that I like when people have original ideas. I get
tired of these reimaginings and like, you know, just animated
movies live class because I'm I'm annoyed by the lack
of inspiration. Tala thought on Dinklage or Zeglar, any of this.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yes, please tell way in Ah, I.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Don't have much of a thought. I'm not gonna see it.
I'm not have no interest in saying. I'm just it's
it's not in my wheelhouse this thing at all. It's
a chin it's a children's movie.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
So that's probably by design.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
But I don't see why we've had two live action
Lion King films, Like we didn't need one and we
got two. So I just I think I think this
may be the nail and the coffin for these things.
I think it's been pretty well documented that there's not
a huge appetite for live action remakes of these classic
animated films that we all love.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Just keep it where it is, come up with.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
A few new ideas and everyone will be happy.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I can always get down with the Laddin. But to
tell us point, we've had enough. Speaking of having enough,
John Torrell and the Philadelphia Flyers just got drilled by
the least seven to in Toronto. I was watching the
game Sunday and I was texting EJ Erradic at Mike
Johnson were calling the game ANHL Neworker. So this game
is atrocious. Each goal that fidotof allowed Mike Johnson seemed
to get more and more annoyed. Palpably agitated at the
state of Philadelphia goaltending and Tortorella for his part. By

(43:58):
the way, or since started that game the one lasted
in Toronto, but Toros, this falls on me.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
I'm not really interested in learning how to coach this
type this in this type of season where we're at
right now, but I have to do a better job.
So this falls on me getting the team prepared to
play the proper way until we get to the end.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
But they're disastrous right now. I would argue Keith Chones
is probably happy I'll get that lottery pick. Him and
Danny Breer want a regroup okay, fine one to eight
and won their last ten. But even Bruce Boudreaux, our
colleague and friend JD, he buried Torts. He accuse him
of quitting on the team. He's at seven hundred and
seventy wins, ranking ninth all time. But this is classic Torts.
Year three, so year when he comes in, clearly the
team impresses year two. Last year. As you recall, Flyers

(44:39):
were in the mix most year they were a playoff team.
Unfortunately fall part late and you're through the players go okay,
I've had enough. I'm tuning out towards That's it. I
can't see him recurring to coach. Wouldn't be surprised if
Brier keeps around, maybe in a different capacity. I don't
know if he wants to still coach. But your thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Torts, Well, it's tough because I do like Torts at times,
and I've been positive with him the past couple of years,
but I just I don't to Bruce point, I think
he hits it nail on the head. You can't quit
on your team or even allude to that fact. You're
the you're the face, You're not the you know, you're

(45:12):
the face in a sense like you're the one that's
out there fielding the questions. You have to protect the players,
and the players got to play for you at the
end of the day, because you're the your head's on
the chopping block. Maybe he sensed it pretty early, and
maybe they told him something at the Four Nations break
that he was on his way out and they were
going to move in a different direction. He kind of
just like, a screw it, I'm just gonna quit on. See,
we gotta find ways to get up for games. And

(45:35):
I mean it's on the players too. It's not only
on torts. You got to find a way to get
out for games. Play for games, you know, play for
a record. You know, you're trying to have a Even
those years I was on shit teams in Arizona, we'd
always find a way to to finish strong and have
something positive to go into come the summer. And it's
just like, I just don't love it. It's it's a

(45:56):
very shows a lack of leadership and you know, towards
being I only coach on winning teams. I'm like, when's
the last time he's really had a winning record? But
very honest here, I know like, you know, like he's
had a couple, like he hasn't really had great ones
as of late. So I'm like, maybe just get up
and maybe he is just frustrated and sick of it.

(46:18):
Uh so maybe he does need to go into a
different role and go into more on the development side,
or maybe be an assistant coach and just take some
pressure off himself. So yeah, I didn't love the comments.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
And uh yeah, remarkable how atrocious their power plays when
the Flyers are oh for March.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Oh there, Yeah, they can't keep the puck out of
the net. They can't score. I don't even want to
watch a game because it makes it's sickening.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Having said that, Flyers and Sabers Saturday, one o'clock Eastern
NHL Support Network. No, I saw J. Yes, you have
another Flyers team coming up. He's like, I do Saturday Sabers.
Let's go come get.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
To c J raddick. Poor guy. But let's talk about today.
It was pretty wild today with us trying to get
set on a time. I got my time zones mixed up.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
It happens.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
But why, I'll tell you why.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
So I you know, I'm back in Arizona and when
I come back in Arizona for four or five days.
In between the network shows. I'm just like getting shit done,
getting shit done. And what I do is I have
a fifty eight Apache. I bought it a it's a Chevrolet.
It's a resto mod truck. I bought it Barrett Jackson
when I was drunk playing for the Coyotes. Michael Grabner.
Michael Grabner like kind of talked me into it, and

(47:20):
he was like, you won't do it, and I was like, sure,
I'll do and I picked up the paddle. I was like, oh,
this seems pretty cool. Oh I had forty grand, I
have fifty grand, ILL have sixty grand. Then all of
a sudden, I was like, yeah, I actually don't want it.
They're like sold the guy up in there and I'm
I'm sitting there with a screwdriver, just sipping on it,
just rosie cheeked. After I told my wife, yeah, I
won't buy anything, twenty minutes later, I'm like, hey, honey,
we're the proud owner of a hot rod. Read it's

(47:43):
fifty eight Apatchee, so which I ended up.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
We ended up falling in love with it. We loved it.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
We've had it for five six years, and but now
just because we've been traveling back and forth from New York,
I'm like, I'm just gonna consign it and sell it
and move on. I had a lot of fun with it,
so that's when I was going to pick up the truck.
And as I'm picking up the truck, I told you
we're supposed to film it certain time, and I completely
mix up the time zones. So I was literally like

(48:08):
in the Apache trucks or here I am on the
highway in Arizona at like launch traffic, just reving the
engine on this fifty eight, try not to have the
wheels fall off, just like, oh shit, I gotta get
done scripted.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh God, shout out to fifty and the patches and
appreciate the effort.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
It's a beautiful truck. I'll send you a picture so
you can post it.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Please do before we close the JDPOV. It was just
fascinating to me as we stuck this discmelt Tal had
no interest in snow White. You had to interest in
Jim Harbos. Let me just clean up what exactly Dnklice
did say. He publicly railed against Disney remaking it because
he said he lows little people being cast specifically for
little people characters. He also called the remake fucking backwards,
So just for a context, that's what Dnkline said.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Did.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, but like, come on, Pete, Pete, pde baby, like
you've had a fantastic career, and yes you could if
you are a good actor, you can do a multitude
of different roles. But this feels like it's kind in
your wheelhouse for the for the fellows and.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The ladies that are a little bit high challenged.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Right, give us a JDPOV.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
On the way out.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Oh yeah, you want me to talk about Well, we
talked about something that on the network with Mike Kelly.
We put something together for defensemen that pinch and create
offense because my biggest thing was like pinching is one thing,
so like when you're pinching down low on the fore check,
a lot of guys are very good at keeping the
puck in the zone and holding the line. But off

(49:37):
of that, if you don't create any offense, you're just
basically killing time. And then that you know the other
teams you can get the puck, they're gonna break it
out and then you're on defense. So we kind of
played with that notion. He called me, and I was like,
let's kind of like, let's take a deep dive because
you're specifically referencing Toronto because they don't create a lot
offense from the back end. And I was like, well,
they don't really have a guy that can pinch and

(49:57):
then off of that pinch create offense. So he looked
and he kind of crunched the numbers as as one
would do, as Mike Kelly would do, and he found
out that like the first defenseman from Toronto that shows
up that creates offense off of a pinch is like
sixty second in the league. So it kind of went
with what we were talking about. So we looked at
who would be the top five guys. In the top

(50:18):
three is Ross Mustahleen is number one. So for every
time he holds the line, twenty four percent of the
time around that number, he creates an offensive scoring chance
or a shot towards the net. So that's one in
four pinches. And then it's Lane Hudson and Colton Pareco.
So there's a method to the madness of like de
man holding the line and then from that it's the

(50:39):
next play you make. You don't just shovel it down low.
You want to try to make a play with it.
And I think that's something and maybe a metric that
teams can start looking at of Like, listen, this guy's
a good pincher. He holds the puck in, he doesn't
back off. But off of that, he's not just giving
the puck away. He's making something happen with it.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
It's pretty cool. It's like a brave heart.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Hold hold the line.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Lane Hudson having a hell of a season.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Maybe when Yeah, he's man. But Dustin Wolf, who's your.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Call the pick? Right now? Celebrany Wolf of Hudson Beach.
CoP's falling off a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I think it's going to depend Unfortunately, I want to
make it.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
It's Hudson or Yeah, and I think celebrate. If neither
all three don't make it, it's celebrating.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
It's not bad, right, I like to take that to
the bank. Like I said, digest it. Good logic.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Thanks so much for listening to NHL Unscripted. I know
you guys want to talk about Severence, but TAL just
finished the first season. TAL is still a season behind,
so give it another week to binge watch the second season.
Thanks for checking NHL and Scripted. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
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