Jason Demers and Adnan Virk did not hold back in assessing what happened in Game 7 between the Maple Leafs and Panthers. Writer/comedian Spike Feresten then stopped by to discuss Seinfeld, Letterman and his great podcast, Spike's Car Radio. Finally, Jason offered a bold prediction for the Conference Finals before almost immediately trying to walk it back.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts,
continuing here in NHL Unscripted and I must predict this
is going to be one of our highest rated episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Jackal with a lot of.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Angry Toronto may Police fans curious to hear our take
on what happened, and props to Florida Panthers they deliver
in strong fashion in game seven.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We'll also talk about the Western.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Conference Final as the Dallas Stars do advance despite the
fact Mark Scheiffley playing with a heavy heart, Sinde the
File and sixty what are you Gonna do to get
Jdan auditioned? Another hockey movie, and we'll also give us
some three stars and talk Litt Macklin Celebradia. Our special
guest this week is Spike Ferriston. If you ever want
to know, hey, how did the soup natz he come
to creation the Alaine Dance? He will tell us as
he's one of the writers in Seinfeld has a great
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podcast as well with Jerry Sneifel talking about Carr's Big
Porscha Guy, which I love.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Spike Firston is coming up as well, But we
begin with the Toronto maple leafs.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And if you're ever wondered yourself like what, like why
do I listen to this podcast?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
There's any other options out there?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because I'll tell you why, Because after game five I
said that came ended with a limp fish.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And Jason de Merse is the only analyst in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
The Western Hemisphere whose advice to the may ple lice
was to take a sealis and to get hard. And
clearly the Leaves took that advice and they did that
in game six. They took a Seahalis and they got hard.
They won that game Game six when everyone else thought
they were done two nothing, and yet a rectile dysfunction
seemed to plague them once again in game seven as
they completely fell apart a flashid performance by the maple
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leafs as the Panthers pushed them around the albumneuver them.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The mayple Leafs are gonna maple leave.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Shame on any of you that thought, oh, this is
a different leaf year, Oh Core four, it'll be different,
It'll be different since nineteen sixty seven, No, won't. The
Leaves embarrassed themselves in the biggest game of the year
on home ice.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
In two huge games at home game five, they.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Got pumped and in Game seven six to one on
Atrocity right now on Young Street.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Wow, I don't even need to add anything after that.
That was it. That was as big a drubbing as
this game. You just drag them all the way to
Pierson International and burn it to the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is the way the Core four ends. I mean,
if this shows you that Brandon Shanahan and the rest
of these guys see you later, why is Brendon Shanahan
still there after?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What? You know?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Again, it's not the way they lose. It is game seven.
I thought, you know, for parts of the series it
was very much and I'm gonna say this lightly, but
it very much was a more a well sorry, a
more well matched series. And people think it's just the
games that they lost. They did not piss a drop.
And that's the issue is that the games they were
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in and they were engaged, they were they were playing
great hockey. But the games the most important once Game
five on home ice, in game seven you go to
absolute sleep. The defensive mistakes were countless huge. Odd Man
Russia is getting out work, getting out battled, Joseph Wall
letting in a couple of softies. It's just it's not enough.
Like again, we keep I feel like we constantly give
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excuses to this Toronto Maple Leafs team and I don't
know what other core for guys have been given this
much opportunity to win a Cup and not do so,
not get blown up. It is time. I'm sorry, nice
time for three years time. It's not blowing up. But
one of the one or two of these no, no,
but one of what I mean by blow up is
mar Scott, one or two of these core four has
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to go. They have to go. I'm sorry, it is
what it is. You have to move on, You have
to find something else. You got to take a swing
because what they've done. And I you know, bradfree Living,
he did some great stuff this year, bringing in some
really good pieces.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I take that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think if Anthony Stolars doesn't get a concussion, I
think he's this is a These two games that they
got blown out are much tighter, but I don't know
if the result would have been the same. But it's
just indicative of what this team does in these big moments.
They just they they panic within their game and then
you know all series, nobody's yelling in game five, nobody's
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on the bench screaming. It looks really quiet, and all
of a sudden, Games ten seven, everybody's screaming at each
other and I'm like, what you're doing this now? Like
you're doing this now, like now's not the time, like
it should have been done in game three, game four.
You allow this to happen and then you panic in
the biggest moment in the biggest game instead of you know,
releasing some pressure from the valve and then you know,
like you said, take another sialis and get hard and
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get going, because man like for them to play the
way they played in game six, they're in Florida improbable
like I was not Lyons. Nothing in the lions Den.
Minus two forty is the betting line for the Florida Panthers.
Everybody's thinking they're dead in the water. They go out
and they put on a performance, they block shots, and
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what do they do in game seven? They run out
of gas once again. And the biggest thing is, you know,
you can say Toronto Maple's apolas, but there's levels in
this league if if you want to win, and Toronto
Mapleas aren't at the level to win a Stanley Cup.
Yet they're not there yet. They just it's close. It
may be close, but it's not close enough. It's not there.
And if you're not there, you got to make a change.
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You got to make a change at the top. It
trickles down. Brendan Shanahan is at ample time. The needs
to move on. The needs to bring in new blood.
There needs to be a new direction with this team,
and it needs to result in one or two of
the core four being gone and maybe some other bigger
pieces be gone. You need to change the identity of
this franchise because you need to get it out. It's
been enough time, It's been long enough. All these other
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guys that are gonna leave, whoever leaves Marner will probably go,
maybe John Tavaras. These guys will have success in other places.
I alluded to last time Florida Panthers had a great
team when Jonathan Huberto was scoring over one hundred points.
They had a fantastic team that could have potentially won
a Stanley Cup. Bill Zito did not think it was enough.
He went and mixed huge trade Mackenzie Wieger Jonathan Huberto
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for Matthew Kachuck, and it changes the identity that franchise.
They going to win a Cup. Now, I'm not saying
they wouldn't win without Huberto or Wiger, but you have
to make those decisions. You've got to put your balls
on the line, and I just don't think they they
really truly have. I don't think Brendan Channon truly has
put his balls in the line yet. I think it's
been a lot of wait and see it. Now it's
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that's it, It's done. This is the last one. You
you've seen what you need to see. You cannot you
got You got blown out by Florida two years in
a row. This is and not to listen, seven games,
seven games. Anything can happen in a game seven. So
credit to them for getting there. But it's not enough
to win a Stanley Cup. And that is the only,
the only point that needs to be made.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
One guy always works, as Paul Marie six and zero
Game seven's in his career, love Mos. He comes through
and gets his team prepared. Toronto's now lost seven straight.
Game seven is dating back to twenty thirteen. You mentioned
the core four, specifically, two shots for Mitch Marder, two
shots for Austin Matthews, two shots it's for Willie Nilander,
one shot for John Tavars. The core four did not
step up with the most and it leads to more
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searching and more soul searching and trying to find the
right answer and back to your point. Each year there's
a different fall guy, right to an old film noir.
Who's the fall guy gonna be in the Maltese Falcons?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So in the past?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, it's it's Dubis, this moron here, This is pocket protective,
this this analytical DWEP. Get him out of here, all right,
Sheldon Keith. He stinks, he doesn't know how to motivate
these guys.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He blows.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Let's bring Craig Beruby, Craig Ruby's tough man, chief former flyer.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
This guy kicks ass up there. That didn't work out either.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Shit, Okay, well, as you said, you've got her of
the GM, you got her the coach players.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's on Shanny. How is it not on Brendon Shanny?
And I respect him, I love it. How for fox sakes,
what else are we gonna do here? Curly the president
is the guy doing the team. What was he got
pictures on people? He's got a lifetime deal Shanny, It's
been fun, buddy Sea.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, if you're a Panthers fan, God, you gotta
be so proud of this team. The guts, the fortitude,
the determination, give me some more synonyms like that, they
just clog up that neutral zone. Man, they lose the
first two games of this series, they don't even blake.
We're gonna win the sucker in seven. Bob's gonna be
a fortress back there.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Like.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They're an incredible hockey team to watch, top to bottom,
Like full admiration of them.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I mean their top players are top players. You know,
Sasha Barkovs one of the best players in the NHL,
not enough credits, super underrated, Serge Bbovski, one of the
best goalies in the NHL and one of the most clutch.
They do not have any Richard panic in their game.
They do not panic one iota. This team is you know,
they just they have leaders, they have winners, they know
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what it takes. These guys are dogs on bone. They
just wear you down. I mean, if you look, and
I didn't mention this before, the amount of hits they
put on the defenseman of Tampa of Toronto, Chris tanneb
was hit over one hundred times in this playoffs, just
over a hundred times, you know me times Seth Jones
and Eric Eckblad, not even fifty, not even fifty times,
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over one hundred. That will wear on you. And they
just body shot, body shot, and everybody, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Said, that's a crazy graphics start to catch up. They
sholl try all the leafs defensemen.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're right, the numbers are like eighty and above, just
getting massacred every time.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And when you get hit, whether it's a big hit
or a small hit, it speeds up your thought process
and your decision making process. You don't move the puck
as smoothly as you normally would because you know that
you're gonna have a body on you. S see, I
gotta speed it up. I gotta speed it up. And
the forwards are being there like why are you guys
throwing it up our ass? Like why are we getting
bad passes? It's like because no one's slowing down these guys.
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And this is what they do. They just over a
seven game series. Uh, they just wear you down as
a defenseman. And there's nothing worse that even if it's
not a hard hit, somebody's rubbing in you every single
time to go back and get that puck over a
seven game series, you will be fatigue, You'll big exhausted.
And you look at the d man on the Florida Panthers,
huge games tonight. Look at the demon They're the highest
scoring defense cores in the Stanley Cup playoffs if over
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twelve goals by defenseman.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All right, so that does it with the guards the
Panthers in the Maple Leafs.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
As far as the Dallas Stars are concerned, they do
indeed advance third straight, heading to the Western Conference Final
for the second street will we being the Edmonton Oilers
in the Final four thanks to Thomas Harley's overtime winner
ninety three seconds into extra time in Game six. And
it's interesting. One of the keys to me, obviously JD,
was that Jake Ottinger saved. He was rock solid the
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entire game. Twelve goals in the entire six game series.
That save on Mason Appleton. You look for a defining
moment in the series. You know, this wasn't the series
where you go, okay. We kept saying, could Connor Helbook
win a game on the road, could he finally overcome
his Demons. He wasn't the reason they lost. The Jets
didn't score, but that youre save as good as it gets.
Incredible moment.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, Listen, Jake Gottinger won that series more than I
think Winnipeg lost it. I just think I was one
of the harder people on Connor hellibook all season, all
playoffs on the road. His last two games on the
road was were fantastic. He just could not get the
run support. And we kind of talked about it on
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the network, like, I don't know if it's if the
team is just so worried about the losing record on
the road that they just tried to play such a
tight game, but they were getting offensive zone scoring chances
the last two games on the road in that series.
But man, Jake Ottinger is something special and his he's
kind of they've been waiting for him to kind of arrive,
and you know, he's had some good playoffs, but nothing
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like you know, eye opening of why he should be
the number one guy, you know, moving forward in the
Olympics and anytime for Team USA and why they brought
him into be a franchise goalie. And he showed him
this series. He came alive. There's a lot of guys
that had breakout rounds for the Dallas Stars, and he
was one of them. And I still think people arguing say, well,
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he's been to the conference finals this and I'm like, no, no,
that this is He's put on a statement in the
first two rounds.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And as far as another guy who put on a
statement as Thomas Arlot, we've talked about before, how good
he is, how this was his coming out part of
the four Nations. He sets up Sam Steele's time goal
in the second period before he got this series quincher.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So obviously Harley, this was a big moment frame as well.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well that what more can you say about a guy
that steps up in the absence of Miro Hayskin. And
the reason they were allowed to let Mero get fully
healthy and come back was because of Thomas Harley. If
it's not for Thomas Harley, they probably have to rush him.
They don't win. He is as big a piece to
that team as Jake Ottinger. And you know, you can
really luck out when you get a one A, one
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B defenseman on a team, and those are so hard
to find. You look at teams that they their whole
franchise is based on they cannot find a number one
defenseman and Dallas has two of them. And you know,
and also we can't say enough about Mero Hayskin and
coming back and logging just enormous minutes last game. I
think it's like over twenty two minutes. And he has
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just been you know, for a guy to be out
for three and a half months come back and be
as effective as he's been is a testament to him.
Like there's not many guys like if you're out three
and a half months, ad Nan, like you're not getting
a look in the playoffs, little and like you gotta
go down to the minor, you got to. Like, but
a guy like that is so good and so hockey
IQ high in such an effortless skater that he's able
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to do that. But yeah, back to Thomas Harley, like
just a breakout season, you know what a year he's
had four nations kind of leading this team in the
Dallas Stars. And now look out because this is a
fully healthy Dallas Stars team that last year against Edmonton
was not fully healthy and that's kind of what did
the men in that series. So this is gonna be intersting.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Hayston twenty three minutes forty seconds. In Game six, Harley
played twenty five minutes for the Jets. We'll get to
Shifley playing with a heavy heart and an enormous effort
in just a second. But for the Jets overall, ten
straight road playoff losses you alluded to, does it get
in their head to the fact they just can't win
away from Canada Life Center. But you gotta look at
the mirror and say, Okay, you've now lost all those
games I just mentioned. You're finished regular season fifty six wins,
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one hundred and sixteen points.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
A lot of questions answered. Nikolai Egler's unrestricted phase.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
He's not going to be back, gave the already restricted
free agent do for a nice raise.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you tinker with the team? JD. How do
you get the Jets the next level?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And there's so incredible the regular season and they can't
get to a conference final.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I think now's the time to overspend. I think
this is a big offseason for them. I think they're
gonna have cap space. They need to spend that money.
I don't think Nicola Eelers I haven't heard anything of him.
He's going to get overpaid somewhere and rightfully so I
think he's a fantastic player. If you're looking at him
versus Mitch Marner, I'm taking nickol Eilers at three million
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cheaper and probably going to be happier with him. He
was a dog in these playoffs. I don't think he
He just improved his capital and his his trade and
not as sorry as free agency value. So he's going
to test the market. But they got to go out
and sign a big player. They got to make a move,
or they got to trade trade picks and bring somebody
in because they're cut. They're right there, they're just they're
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missing I think one more forward, you know, and but
you look at it, it's just one of those head
scratchers that I just think they ran in. They're in
that central division that if they're in the Pacific, they
probably cruise through the Pacific, but they're in the Central
and it's so tough to come out of there. It's
just a war. I think that Saint Louis series took
a lot out of them. Obviously they lose Josh Morrissey
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in that game that looked it looked horrendous. What happened,
So that was a big loss for them, and they
just kind of at the wrong time, got some injuries
and obviously some horrible news. But it's a team that
I think is you can guarantee they'll be back at
the top of the heap next year. And but I
think it's a big an offseason for them, Like they
need to really find somebody to come in and you know,
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find some depth scoring and some depth pieces because a
lot of that, a lot of that burden offensively falls
in that first line, and I think there's there's just
some holes in the depth that they need they can
they can bring in and shore up. I like their decor,
I do. I like they got to resign Samberg. I'm
pretty sure he's going to get off for sheeted, so
they got to make sure they get somebody that they
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got to pay him and he's number one because I
thought he really improved euro every year and this is
going to be the This is going to be an
offseason for them. And then lastly, they need to get
a real true backup goalie they need.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We've learned something with hell of it here, Like I'm
glad that, as you said, Game four game with three goals.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Game five pitches shut up.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Game six played well, so you can't see the rest
of the seris was lost by him. But clearly stop let
them play so much in the regular season, right fifty five?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's it? Like what what are you chasing? What do
you need to feel better? Like it's in listen his
styles conducive to you know, they say that he's not
you know, it's it's not as fatiguing and it's not
as tiring, but it doesn't matter mentally the weight and
emotionally of playing these NHL hockey games over and over
again and then going and trying to find another level
in the playoffs, like you need to find And that's
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the other thing. If you want to play that much great,
you need a legitimate one bee that can come in
the playoffs if shit goes south, and which happened a
few times in these playoffs for Winnipeg, and I think
it made it a lot harder on them to get
out of that first round. In parts of the second round,
I think if they weren't so hung up on you know,
Hella Buck's road record and how he is on the road,
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I think they probably do better. So they need a
guy that they can pull him early, and like a
little bit like Edmonton with Skinner and Picard, you need
a guy that you can trust, because they obviously showed
they don't trust air Comray at all.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And as far as playing with a heavy heart, I mean,
this is an amazing job by Winnipeg's.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ander Mark Stifley. He plays and opens the screen with
the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
This is literally hours after it to be able that
his father brought unexpectedly passed away on Friday night. So
Shifley goes out there and was able to play a
whale of a game. He really just can't imagine what
it's going through his mind. I thought this was particularly notable,
Producer Tal pointing out some Dallas Stars fans took to
the Internet to encourage one of them to donate fifty
five dollars, which is Shafey's number, to the True North
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Youth Foundation and Kidsport Canada, both cherries supported by Shafeley.
That's a big time classman by Dallas.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Makes you think about.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Brett Farv very famously lost his father when the Monday
Night football went out there, I feel like four touchdowns
are three hundred yards, said this is what my dad
would have wanted. You often to hear players say that, JD,
It's what my dad would have wanted to be out there.
But I think it's still a courageous moment and more
respect to Mark Schite to what he was able to
do out there.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, that's a man. It's tough because you know, I
was talking to my mom about it today and my
dad too. It's like, you know, your your parents see
your first NHL game and most of the times you
know you're you're lucky enough that they see your last
NHL game. So you know, hell of a job by
him for you know, playing and honoring his father by
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doing that. That to your point, courageous act. But yeah,
it's it's tough because you know they're the people that
support you. They are with you every step of the
way through your NHL career and leading up to it,
so to not be able to see it through with
them as well as you know, listen, it's it's a
parent You never want to see your your parents go suddenly.
And you know, during a time like that where you're
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you know, still playing and you're still kind of occupied,
you want to be able to have as much time
as you can, and that's the biggest thing. So that
loss of time is is the saddest part about this.
But you know, for him to go out and play,
and again, hats off to the Dallas Stars fans for
what they did. That's amazing and a really classy move.
But you know, it's a loss of a parent's never easy.
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And you know, I thought he handled himself so admirably
and for him to score, you know, I saw a
tweet of like that was Mark Schaeffer assisted by Brad Shaifeley,
and that's just something that's so cool. You know, he
was looking down and smiling and you know that's how
the only way he probably knew how to honor his
father in that moment, and it was something his dad
probably would have wanted. So you know, hearts go out
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to him big time, and he's I know him personally,
he's a good kid, and I'm sure that's tough one
and it's never it's never easy seeing that hearing that,
or even I can only imagine what he must have
been going through.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's all I said. That's a great tweet as well.
So the when I picked Jets are no longer moving on.
We'll do our second round previous in just a second,
but first special guest ever wondered the creation of the
Soup Nazi?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
How did the Elaine Dance come to be?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Spike Ferriston wrote some the most iconic Seinfeld episodes, a
worked on David Letterman for years. The difference is between
Jerry and Dave. All that more coming up. We're throwing
a little curveball here. Spike Ferrison's coming up after this
on NHL and scripted our next guest. An accomplished writer
(20:37):
and comedian best known for his work on Seinfeld and
both of David Letterman's late night shows. He's also written
for The Simpsons, The Dana Carvey Show, and Space Ghost
Coast to Coast. He was the host of Talk Show
with Spike Ferristone and Fox and now hosts Spike's Car Radio.
It's Spike Ferristons. Spike, it's great to see you man.
Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Yeah, good to be here, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Let's start first off with car Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Great guests out of the gates, Carol Lee for obviously
Jerry Seinfeld, good friends of yours.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Where did this concept come from?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
This came from Jerry and I and a couple of
friends taking drive every weekend out to Malibu, and you know,
we would stop and get coffee and sandwiches at this
little deli, and we noticed people were kind of leaning in.
And once someone even transcribed our conversation and put it
in the Malibu Times, And while Jerry was a little
(21:26):
upset about it, I.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Said, you know, I think this could be an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
People really want to listen to our stupid conversations while
we record them and see if we can find a following.
And here we are in our eighth year and we
just launched on YouTube, and I guess people think of
us as a downloadable cars and coffee that really, you know,
covers entertainment, comedy, cars in the southern California automotive scene.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I think it's the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Spike's car Radio again.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We're talking to Spike Ferriston right now on Obviously we're
all Seinfeld fan. Spike, my brother's a massive Seinfeld guy.
So I text him earlier I said I'm talking to Spike,
which I asked him, and he goes hey. In the
Soup Nazi episode, apparently Spike actually witnessed a cusher the
real life Souper Kitchen comprying the actual guy to al
Pacino can verify that.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Yes, that really happened.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
A very unfortunate woman in front of me said to
the real soup Nazi New York on fifty fifth and eighth,
you know you kind of look like al Pacino. In
the episode, he says a different line than he said
in real life.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
In real life, it was.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
A stream of expletives that I will spare you. It
was really horrible, and I felt really awful for the woman,
but but true to form, myself and everybody in the
line just kind of turned away and pretended we didn't hear.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's what most brilliant episodes I've ever written, and it
proves against Spike comedy comes from real life sources.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
You sometimes, yeah, sometimes, yeah, sometimes, But a lot of
that is real, A lot of that that happened in there,
And and Larry and Jerry were you know, it's great
that they put it on because they could have changed
a lot of it. And I would go, you know,
that's real and this is real, and they go, okay,
let's do it. It's funny enough.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is there any other episodes that stand out to you?
I know there's wig Master, muffin Top stuff like that,
But is there one that stands out more than because
you get the most acclaim is souper Nazi, But you know,
there's so many other amazing ones that you kind of
partook and helped write.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You know, the Elaine Dance seems to get a lot
of play, you know, Little Kicks, the Brooklyn Cyclones.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Every summer the Mets minor league team have an.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Alaye dance thing, and I see it on the internet
all the time, which is really fun, you know, But
I had no idea we were writing things that we'd
be talking about with you guys. You're just trying not
to get fired. You're like, Okay, well this is guy.
I know he's got a terrible dancer.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Little Kicks. Great, let's try that. Let's do it, you know,
go ahead. That was the fun of the show, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Larry said early on, I don't want you guys to
come in and make up stories. I want you to
tell me stories from last night. You went on a date,
you went to a party, and this happened. You haven't
stopped thinking about it, and you're polite, guys. I'm sure
you did the right thing. But what did you want
to do? What did you want to say? What did
you think about doing next? He said, that's where the
stories for this show are, and it was the perfect advice.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know, it is great advice.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I know you weren't involved with the episode The Face Painter,
but it's a hockey podcast, so just c respect any stories.
David Putty the Devil's Fandom Tonic episode.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, no, I loved anything with David Putty embarrassing Elaine.
That was always the most fun because, you know, with
the eight ball jacket is a good example that, like
when I was living in New York, there are two
things that would upset me on my walk to work,
men wearing fur coats. I just is like, I don't
I don't understand what this is and I needed to stop.
(24:50):
And then the eight ball jacket was another one. This
this horrible.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
You know, I'd be on the.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Subway and go, what the effort is this guy?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Does he know how bad he looks? And with Putty,
I thought, well, there's that guy. I can i and
start putting this stuff on him and maybe help New
York not have to experience this, you know, by you know,
embarrassing everybody who's wearing them in New York.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
But I think it's now had the opposite effect.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Maybe to add NAT's point of us being a hockey podcast,
and you know, we're both just huge fans of all
your works, so we're like, I screw the hockey. But
you know, you grew up in mass and that's a
huge sports town. Yeah, do you kind of have any
memories of growing up and was hockey kind of ever
part of your life in any semblance or any form.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
There's no real life in Massachusetts other than sports. So
very early on, if you know, I was thinking about
it and I knew would get get to this point,
and I was thinking, I grew up on a street,
like there were three streets of boys. So you would
go to school, you'd play school sports, you'd come home
and you played every single sport played, including ice hockey
(25:59):
and street hockey mostly, and there's only you know, for me,
I'm a little older, there was only one guy. Bobby
Orr was the guy in you know, Massachusetts who you
wanted to be. And the Bruins hadn't won for all
of those years. I don't It might have been as
far back as the forties and then you know, I
think I was two years old maybe when they got
(26:20):
Bobby Orr on the team, and then in nineteen seventy
they won the Stanley Cup, and then again seventy two,
maybe somewhere around there, and you know, so you know,
for me, it was funny because when we would play
these games, we were all Bobby Orr and if you
were the goalie, you were Gordy Howe. So there's two
(26:41):
Gordy Howe's and all Bobby Orr's were all playing each
other in hockey. And now you know, I have a
kid in high school who plays lacrosse, which I knew
nothing about, and I've had had to have a crash
course in that, and I find that's very much. He
plays box lacrosse in the fall in the summer, and lacrosse,
you know, they just wrapped their season and won the championship.
(27:02):
But it's very much like hockey, you know, you know,
penalty boxes and the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
So you know, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I've started thinking about hockey again because of lacrosse.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, it's a great point. Steve Levy, of course from ESPN,
was our recent guest. He was telling us difference in Boston,
New York he said, New York. You know, there's obviously
a great sports fan, so they're passionate, especially in the building,
but seventy five percent of people might be fans of
Broadway or foodies, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And yeah, yeah, everyone's a sports fan. Everywhere you go
you see a Red Sox's.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Well, there's a reason that we don't have anything else.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
We've got We've got we've got decent clam chowder, bluefish
in this summer, and then sports. And it's like, you know,
it's one of the funniest things is the women as
they get older, they become massive sports fans. Like my
mom is in her eighties, she's eighty six right now,
(27:55):
and in April, I said, how do the Red Sox look?
And she could have she could have guessed it on
this show the next thirty minutes of her appraisal of
who is traded?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Who coming on? What's happening? Where I think it's going?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I was, I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
This woman never went to one of my.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Baseball games growing up, and it's so funny to watch
it happen. And you know, I used to bartend in
Boston to put myself through college, and I would meet
these you know these folks, these Red Sox fans in particular,
these guys, these men and women who are like in
their eighties, who were like, I'm staying alive. I'm staying
alive in the hopes that the Red Sox will win.
(28:32):
And they're not smiling. It's not a joke. They're like,
this is what's carrying me forward. I'll bet you if
you looked at the stats of two thousand and four,
it was a big die off. Yeah, they were like,
all right, I'm out, hold on in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
No, I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
But yeah, we love sports because it's it's cold and
it's miserable there and it brings us so much joy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I mean my years in Worcester, mass were a lot
of cold at hockey. And yeah, yeah, I want to
kind of put you on the spot and you know,
your gear heads, and then I also want to say,
if you were to kind of compare a car to
the NHL or hockey, what would that car be in
(29:20):
you know, if that that's me putting on you on
the spot as much as I can, but what would
that car be to you? Something that kind of personifies
and embodies hockey in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Well, there's there's a great new event that Porsche puts
on with one of the Porsche kids firty and it's
called a fat ice race, and it it goes. It's it's,
it's it's like they they have beautiful old cars like
(29:50):
five fifties and three fifty six's, sometimes with spikes on
the tires and they they drag people on skis behind
them and have these races twice a year. It's an
amazing event. And you know, Porsche has a there there
there there have always been ice races, and a friend
of mine owned a car, a three fifty six that
(30:11):
has they there are these like rubber tires with these
big spikes on them and they race on ice. I
mean to me, that's that's as hockey as you can get.
You know, you're just flying around a track on ice
with giant spikes on your tire. The Swedes do it.
It's you know, it's it's it's a big thing in
the Nordic countries. But that's your hockey. I don't know
(30:33):
if anybody's fighting. I guess the La freeways are the fights.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. I like the studs on the tires a little rough.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, The studs on the tires. Yeah, yeah, we get
a lot of a lot of rage here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Now you mentioned let him in earlier one of your bosses.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Of course, Dave is a huge gear have we know
how much he loves auto racing and all this years,
I remember I haven't worked at ESPN. He's going to
tell me. You know, this is like eighties. You couldn't
get certain races. So Dave would drive to Bristol, Connecticut.
They let him in the backyard just so we could
watch the races. He was he was that much of
an enthusiast one oh yeah, f one or you know
at that time Indy car.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But I wanted to ask specifically.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Darren Demiterio is a friend of mine who worked at
the years ago to USPN.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
He worked on Late Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He was one of the guest bookers, and he said
I didn't interact much with Dave. We'd see him once
a year, you know, the Holliday party. Say allow kind
of thing, he said, But but he did have some
great moments with guests, and he says his favorite single
moment working for years and Late Night with David Letter
was he met Don Rickles the first time he's in
the brain or whatever. And the next time Don Rickles,
this is like three years later, Don Nichols.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is there and Darren's keeping in company. I have a
Rickles season without missing a meating. He goes, and by
the way, Darren's about five for five. He goes, im,
gross is the last time I saw you?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
And he goes, you know, being insaulted by Don Rickles
was like such a badge of honor for him.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Working on that show, what memories not necessarily just of Dave,
but of the guests and the people around him.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Well, Dave, I remember doing a charity go cut race,
you know, with a lawnmower, engines and stuff for charity
on his Saturday. And we're down we're down Wall Street
area and the phone is ringing and and it's Dave
calling up Rob Burnett and I'm like, what is Dave?
What is he? He goes, he he wants us to
win this race. And I'm laughing. He goes, I'm serious.
(32:09):
He goes, he doesn't want us to come in fifth.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Go does he know what we're doing here? We're racing
against Applebee's in coke.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Cards just to raise awareness for MS or something. He goes, Yeah,
you gotta win. We got to find a way to win.
And he had He had called me down in the
office earlier that week and and you know, walked into
my office, which was rare.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He was on the fourteenth floor. I was on the
twelfth floor. And I look over and he sits down
and he goes, uh. He goes, so what are we
doing to win the race? And I, you know, well,
we'll studying the line of the track and the orange cones. David,
he goes, no, seriously, he goes, why are you here?
And I go, I got to write the top ten list.
He goes, no, he goes, you got to get out
(32:54):
to the race shops in Long Island and figure out
how to win this cut?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Dam are you are you asking me to cheat?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
He goes, I didn't say that, but there's a gray area.
And so I left the office that day and went
out and started, you know, talking to these guys in
these race shops.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I didn't even know what these places were.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And came back with like different springs for the throttle
and different racing plugs. And the best hack was this
purple racing gas that was under and twenty outat or
something and uh, and we you know, we we fixed
up the cart and my cart won.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
We we won.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
We were just blasting everybody. And at the end of
the race, the judges came over and they I go,
what do they do? They go, they got to inspect
the cart, and I went, oh, man, and they looked
at it, looked at the spark plugs, they took out
the gas, they saw the color, and then they came
over and they said, you're you're being.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Busted down a fifth place for what is the charity event.
He goes, We're not disqualifying you, but we're giving you
best uniforms.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
And so if you watch the show the following Monday,
that's what that's what.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Dave congratulated us for uniform but he.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Wasn't he wasn't unhappy because we had done, you know,
what we set out to do, and we did win.
We just didn't get the trophy, but boy does he
care about racing.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's that's unbelievable. Kind of what other differences did you
find working with Letterman And then also you know Jerry
Seinfeld Larry David like, how how was that kind of
just experience and how many little subtleties were the same
between them or just was it just completely different between both.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Oh, very very different.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
But like any business, everything trickles down from the top, right,
you know, it's a culture that's kind of run by
the guy up top. And both of those places I
remembers being so fun, you know, Dave there, there were
just you know, instead of working sometimes in a conference room,
I would be in the hallway with this big driver
(35:13):
that John Daly had given Dave, that Dave had given me,
just driving golf balls into the wall with some of
the writers were getting big holes into the wall. And
you know, at the time, you know, GE and NBC
owned the show, so no one cared about the offices,
and you know, it was it was like that. And
(35:34):
then we'd go, hey, maybe there's a bit and hitting
golf balls. Maybe we can take snowmobiles on top of
a parking garage. It was always mischief in the office
and then on the show, you know, And that was
so fun for me because I was always getting in
trouble in high school and college for these things, and
now I was being paid to do it, you know,
and you know, yeah, it was a way of turning
(35:57):
a big negative in my life into a job.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
One more for you, Spike, tow's a big the Data
Carvey Show. He wanted to ask you about it, Go
ahead tell you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I mean, I'm sure, Spike, you get asked about a
lot of different shows you worked on. But I feel
like the Dana Carvey Show has taken on sort of
like a mythical energy as time has passed, especially considering
how long the show was actually on the air. And
you look at some of the names involved with the
show at the time, Louis c. K and Robert Smigel
and Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert, I know, you know, yeah,
(36:29):
it was. It was a short lived adventure for all
you guys. But I'd love to hear any sort of
any sort of memories really from that experience.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, I was on Seinfeld at the time when the
show launched, and I watched their first episode and lost
my mind. I thought, I think there was a Bill
Clinton like nursing puppies sketch and you know, which isn't
so shocking now, but back then, remember everything was time slots, right,
(36:58):
so you know, eight to nine o'clock was Family Hour,
and nine o'clock, who is going to get a little
more dangerous that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Was.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
That was definitely one am to two AM at the time.
So when it went on, I went, Oh my god,
and I watched this show and I just thought it
was absolutely brilliant that Smigel had done such a great
job with it. And I know Dana really well. I've
always known what a huge talent he is, and it
was I believe it was a mid season replacement. So
like right around April, I called my agent up and
(37:27):
I said, I've got like three or four weeks off.
Do you think you can get me a job on
the show, because I'd love I just love to spend
my vacation working there. I don't even care if they
pay me. I just want to be around it because
the comedy is so good. So weirdly it worked and
they had one position, and I brought my friend Steve O'Donnell,
was a former head writer of Letterman, and we went
We went in there. We shared an office with Stephen
(37:49):
Colbert and Steve Carell and you know who were new
And I remember saying to Steve, I go, geez, these
guys are so talented, but I don't think they're going
to go anywhere if this show doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
And at some point I got a phone call. Oh no,
the ABC executive came in and said, can we talk
to you guys? And I said sure, and they said, well,
you know, what's your plan?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You know?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And I said, well what do you mean. They go, well,
we hired you because we thought you could save this show.
And then we went, oh, no, no, no, we love
the show. We wanted to do exactly what Smigel and
Dana want to do. Somehow, my agent had pitched me
because the show was in trouble to come in and
fix it and got it entirely wrong. And I think
(38:38):
that was like the final beat of the story for
the show. We just wrote, whatever Dana and Smigel we're
looking for, and you know, and then it didn't work,
you know, it just fell apart. But it was really
just the time slot that did it, you know. It
was just in the wrong spot.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
And another another one I had to asked about. A
friend of ours is Rob Burnette. I don't know if
you were, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Huge Rangers fan.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
He's told me that when the Rangers brought the Stanley
Cup on Letterman in nineteen ninety four, that's like one
of the highlights of his life. I'm just curious about
any exchanges with him. Did he ever try to get
you involved with, you know, a fan of the Rangers,
or any friendly rivalries with.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Well, I'm pretty sure didn't Rob build a hockey rink
in his front yard. That's how much he loves hockey.
I am fairly certain. Someone told me that and said,
you're not gonna believe what Burnett did. And I'm pretty
sure it was built a hockey rink in his front yard.
Jerry has a baseball diamond in his front yard.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I have bushes.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
But I think Rob was also behind this really epic
Christmas party where we all skated and played hockey, and
that would make sense if he's a big hockey fan.
Where we all came out, we got the gear, it
was the entire staff. We played hockey to the best
of our ability. You know, I remember coming into the
(40:10):
stands after going wow, you know, I didn't know I.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Had this talent to play. I can't wait to see
the footage. And then we all looked like three year
olds on skates for the first time.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
What we thought we had done on the rink and
what in actuality was recorded.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
We're just so like a Canyon apart.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
It was such a funny experience, you know, and it
gave me so much respect for players because I thought, Wow,
I was really doing this and we weren't even close.
We weren't even close. But Rob was decent.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
He was good.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Spike's Car right to make sure you listen to a
Car's Coffee and Comedy hosted by Communian automotive enthusiast Spike Versta.
Just looking at the ample episodes alone, you've got Patrick
long in the future of Porscha mcmurcery smoking the Porsche
GTS or asked Jerry Seinfeld's multimillion dollar Rolex and cyber
truck not accepted.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I got closed with this, Spike. I know you guys
de bait of this. I'll listen to the episode.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But whether not the Tesla cyber truck is a legitimate flop,
it is.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
The short answer it is.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
You know, I I know the fellas that designed it.
I you know, I I drove it, and I did
like the way it drove. It just has no hope
of ever becoming something that looks normal in our environment.
And and you know, I know it's a highly political topic,
but let's set that aside. It looks like a dumpster
with four wheels. And I live I live on the
(41:35):
west side of LA and there's got to be thirty
or forty of them floating around. And every time you
can see the people roll in their eyes when they
go by, they're they're unsightly, and I think they're going
to forever kind of be like a Dolorean or you know,
any any car that never quite works as styling wise,
exterior design wise, with what's going on in our world.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Just it's just a bad look. There's no question about
Spike's car. Yeah, Spike Pherson, Thanks so much, Spike. This
was awesome. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Yes to meet you.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
All right, quick little silophon in sixty before we get
to our second round previews.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
My favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Ed Helms just finished production a hockey film in Edmonton.
Another hockey film, Another missed opportunity to catch budding thespian
Jason Demurz.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
The film is called.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Smudge the Blades, a dramatic comedy that centers are in
a group of indigenous hockey players in northern Alberta. Clearly,
JD is a man who can appeal to lots of
different Vinis who do not believe he's of indigenous origin.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
But hey, you never know, you.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Gonna have a little bit of chip awat chair k exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We go way back in the bloodlines. Who knows?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Bottom line is you need to show your range here?
What is it gonna take to get you an audition?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I don't know if this they just woke left. I
won't just hire me enough. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. Uh too, white listen, I could play
the races if you want me to, Ladies and gentlemen,
I will do that hard task of embodying the guy
being like, you can't play here.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You gotta have one of those guys. Man, that's a
critical movie.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, I also want to you can play, everybody can play.
Let me play.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I also wanted to get the review because you haven't
told what you thought of Henry Johnson David Manmitt's new
movie starring Shilah buff All. All you text was I
started Henry Johnson and they didn't tell me you finished it.
That's an eighty one minute movie, so I'm gonna guess
you didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
No, I actually I actually love the pacing of it.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I watched it with Jill and Jill. You know, Jill
immediately she went and completely bind and within five minutes
she's like, this is really this this show is like
a play. And I'm like, yeah, it's it's same thing.
It's very quick pace. I mean, I think Shila buff
is incredible. I mean, he is so good that just
that that scene in the you know, when that initial
(44:00):
in seeing him meeting in the prison cell and him
talking and just you don't know what's going on, and
he's his movement around the cell where it always seems
like threatening, menacing, but he's not. But he's like, you know,
providing wisdom and it looks like, you know, you keep
thinking like he's gonna grab him, he's gonna do something,
but it just seems like he's offering advice and like
(44:21):
almost like being a psychologist with him and talking to
him mentally about how he is as a like basically
like dissecting him. As he's moving around, You're like, what's
he gonna do? Is he gonna swing on them? So
I just thought it was a very tense scene. And
but I mean, Chaievs I that guy. Everything he does.
If he just wasn't cuckoo for Coco Puffs, he would
(44:41):
be like you look at him and I'm gonna just
leave it at that, like you look at him and
Timothy Shallow. I mean nothing against Timothy Challamy.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
But I featured on sixty Minutes, a huge profile on.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I think shi is is, if not one of the
best actors around and does not get enough love because
he's just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
The second round previews, we go Stars and Oilers.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
As you mentioned earlier, these two teams met in the
West Final last season, Edmonton one and six.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Before that, Dallas lost in the West Final at six.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
The Vegas Golden Knights, you talk about Ransom, your referred
him as Herculean, made his Star's debut against the Oilers
March eighth, gold assistant of five to four Oilers win.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Now there's two things that can be true.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You and I both said the winner of Dallas and
Colorado wins the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That may still be true.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
But you and I also said we're not counting out
against Edmonton again. We both called the Kings, we both
called Vegas. So which of those two facts we stick with?
I'm gonna say I'm not calling against the Oilers again.
I know that the underdog in this series. I'm not
doing it again. I'm calling the oilers in seven.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
What do you got? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I man, it's just so tough because you look once again,
you got Jake ore versus Stuart Skinner, Calvin Picard, two
headed monster, and then you now have Hayskin and an
Harley to skate with McDavid and dry titles, so you
have pieces in place, but I cannot McDavid looks like
(46:09):
he wants to rip somebody's face off right now, like
every game he is. I mean he was, They're up
three to one and he backchecked and almost decapitate himself
on the post to backcheck like in the first period
of a game, like watch you watch these like you
know you you watch these other series and these other superstars.
Not one of these guys is doing that. This guy
wants to win so bad, going after the media after
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being like, is that how you look at how we
played defensively? Like tired of answering this question, I'm like,
this guy is gonna ship somebody in the bathroom just
to win a cup right now, like he wants it
so bad. So I just don't know. I think Dallas
is better than they were last year, but I think
Edmonton's better than they were last year. So this is
gonna be an interesting series. And I predict that Edmonton
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is gonna implement the same style they did against Vegas,
which is they are going to get to Andre. They
are going to be in his face all series. So
I'm interested to see how that decoor handles that much pressure,
because up to this point, you know, Colorado skilled team
Winnipeg a little bit more defensive structure, you know, other
than the liwtery line, they're not that imposing physically. Edmonton
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has proven to be physically imposing in these playoffs, and
I'm gonna be interested to see how they handle that pressure.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Do you want to give you a prediction? What do
you got? All right?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'm not bet We said we have to a lot.
We can't lie to the masses and truth be told,
as much as I want to lie to the masses
and flip flop, flip flop, no oilers, We're gonna go
with the Oilers. We need Canada to win. We need
Canada to win.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
That still stays a lot, by the way that prediction
would have felt a lot better it was Winnipeg. Oh well,
we're riding these Oilers team. Next up Hurricanes and Panthers.
So this series is interesting because again the Panthers with
the effort that they showed unbelievable in Game seven against Toronto.
But I wouldn't say Carolina showed me something. But I
did not think they would dispatch the Capitals in five.
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I think I had the Hurricanes winning, but I'm like
that was a strong effort from start to finish. I
still question the lack of a game breaker. Although Svetscha
Copp has been great, and I'm not gonna again dispute
that Freddie Anderson has not been well of these stories
of this.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Playoffs, how good he has been.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Having said that this Panthers team, I see them going
to the third straight Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I will call Panthers in six.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
When an immovable object meets an unstoppable force. Is the
Carolina Hurricanes versus the Florida Panthers, which for check will
get there first. Nice And I tell you what if
Freddie Anderson keeps playing the way he's playing in Jacob's
Slave and now now they're getting old Slave Daddy, which
he's gonna be all over there with stick on puck.
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Can they handle the for check of Florida and get
and play that boring hockey that has won them so
many games and frustrated the hell out of teams. I
do not think they've been tested yet in these playoffs.
That's the only issue. They got a new Jersey Devil
teams that was the Walking Dead, and they dispatch the
Washington Capitals, which I just think we're fatigued a little
bit older. This is a different animal than the Florida Panthers.
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I want to take a flyer and Jeorde Martin hook
fan of the show. I want to see Carolina gets there,
much of the chagrin of the NHL and the revenue
sharing model. I think the Carolina Hurricanes, I think they
do it in seven. I don't know. I like that
against Florida, but I have to go sideways on this
because fold pick. I like what I've seen against Florida.
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But I just think that Carolina might have something here
and I want to see them with everybody shit talking
them all season about the trades they messed up. I
want to see this team with a chip on their shoulder,
with Taylor Hall Mista Scheschnikoff and Jacob Slave in this boring,
boring ass team. Yeah, I want this high flip and.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Ram blogging up the neutral zone.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
That's and I just want them to get there because
it's gonna piss everybody off. And that's why I want it,
because when everybody's eggs's daddy's eggs, it's.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
A great Consuron take. I love it, second time in
three seasons.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Hurricanes Panthers Eastern Conference Bottle Florida swept the Canes in
twenty twenty three before losing to Vegas and the cup
file of the Panthers took two or three games against
Carolina during the regular season, though they haven't played since January.
Second and one final the great Rod Brendan were played
under Paul Maurice when they were in Carolina together, so
interesting coaching matchup as well. One more thought here before
we get the three Stars World Championships in Sweden and Denmark,
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we spoke to sharkspore Re Tyler to fully how Maclin
celebrity could learn something from Sidney Crosby. Well, thirty seven
year old Crosby eighteen year old celebraty. They've been a
four so far for Team Canada seven nothing went over
Slovakia on Saturday. Crosby two goals to assist Max Elliott
goal and two assists. How much can I think celebrity
is having playing with Crosby.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I mean, I'm just already regretting my pick of taking
the Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
No, I think it's right, such a gutsy picks.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's the dumbest pick ever. You could please add this
to it as well, just have it say a few
moments later and me just being like, I completely.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
No, no, but everyone's SIGs. You're gonna sag.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
I love it. But this Florida team is just an
absolute wagon. But yeah, I mean, if I'm Sidney Crosby
and I'm playing with Maclin celebrity right now and he
is just dishing and the chemistry high, I'm rethinking not
asking for a trade out of Pittsburgh and be like,
this is how the other half can live when I'm
playing with these young kids that are just so good
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and can get me the puck over whatever the dumpster
fire is and the Pittsburgh Penguins right now. So but
it's fun to see him. You know, they're having a blast.
It's a great tournament I played there. It's such so
much fun. Everybody's calm, everybody's having fun, and you know,
especially in these round robin games and you're just piss
pumping these teams like from Slovenia and like these teams
that have no NHL players and this is a stacked team.
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It is so much fun because you're just like, oh, yeah,
we just globetrotters this, and that's what it's looked like
right now. But yeah, it's it's I'm sure celebrity is
having a ton of fun too, playing with Sidney Crosby
and you know, learning so much. This is going to
help him, you know, help him, help him big tight.
And he hearing that Connor Bodard said no to the
World Championships is crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, well, I just said it'll certainly help sell bring
his developments.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Why wouldn't Connorverdard go there? I don't I won't to
understand that.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
But yeah, it's an I guess all right, three stores,
three stars just be closed the shop. I'll give it
to Mark Schiffley, honoring his father Brad literally hours aftere
Feenerty passed week, goes up there and scores a goal.
The Jets may have lost the game, but it was
a great moment for all of the games bright young Stars.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Props to Mark Scheifeley for playing with a heavy heart.
Who do you got, jad?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
I'm going with Seth Jones, fan of the show. I
just what a game, What a step up he is?
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
I think all time minutes by defenseman in the playoffs,
he is like number three on the list at like
twenty eight minutes average. Uh. And he's just been doing everything.
What a trade. Everybody scoffed at that trade, But Seth
Jones is a number one, number one B defenseman and
he has been proving that. And this team, this Florida
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team looks scary once again, and they have that belief
and they're just walking their way to this and the
Cup finals. But not if the Carolina Hurricanes have something
to say, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Tell your pick. Yeah, I mean, I gotta go with
Brad Marshaw.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
It's just the excell too, Florida Panthers.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
No, none of us the impressive in Game seven, none of.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Us taking Any Edmonton Oilers players.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Will mention, yeah he kicks.
Speaker 8 (53:30):
There's a few gays we get pick there, But just
Marshaw I mean, this guy's gonna be haunting Leafs fans
nightmares for generations what he's done to this team over
the years. You know, eight points in seven games in
this series against Toronto, including a goal and two assists
in game seven.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I mean, how the the game, game five and Game
seven drubbings of the Toronto may be leiefs that hurts
so bad?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well, that's how we start the show. That's how we
end the show.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Awful performance, by the way, believes standing performance by the
Florida Panthers. As we are now officially entering the third round,
just four teams left, but still twice a week of
NHL Unscripted, one social Media Clipper episode.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Thanks again to Smike Ferriston. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Jackal with a lot of.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Angry Toronto may Police fans curious to hear our take
on what happened, and props to Florida Panthers they deliver
in strong fashion in game seven.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We'll also talk about the Western.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Conference Final as the Dallas Stars do advance despite the
fact Mark Scheiffley playing with a heavy heart, Sinde the
File and sixty what are you Gonna do to get
Jdan auditioned? Another hockey movie, and we'll also give us
some three stars and talk Litt Macklin Celebradia. Our special
guest this week is Spike Ferriston. If you ever want
to know, hey, how did the soup natz he come
to creation the Alaine Dance? He will tell us as
he's one of the writers in Seinfeld has a great
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podcast as well with Jerry Sneifel talking about Carr's Big
Porscha Guy, which I love.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Spike Firston is coming up as well, But we
begin with the Toronto maple leafs.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And if you're ever wondered yourself like what, like why
do I listen to this podcast?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
There's any other options out there?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because I'll tell you why, Because after game five I
said that came ended with a limp fish.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And Jason de Merse is the only analyst in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
The Western Hemisphere whose advice to the may ple lice
was to take a sealis and to get hard. And
clearly the Leaves took that advice and they did that
in game six. They took a Seahalis and they got hard.
They won that game Game six when everyone else thought
they were done two nothing, and yet a rectile dysfunction
seemed to plague them once again in game seven as
they completely fell apart a flashid performance by the maple
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leafs as the Panthers pushed them around the albumneuver them.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The mayple Leafs are gonna maple leave.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Shame on any of you that thought, oh, this is
a different leaf year, Oh Core four, it'll be different,
It'll be different since nineteen sixty seven, No, won't. The
Leaves embarrassed themselves in the biggest game of the year
on home ice.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
In two huge games at home game five, they.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Got pumped and in Game seven six to one on
Atrocity right now on Young Street.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Wow, I don't even need to add anything after that.
That was it. That was as big a drubbing as
this game. You just drag them all the way to
Pierson International and burn it to the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is the way the Core four ends. I mean,
if this shows you that Brandon Shanahan and the rest
of these guys see you later, why is Brendon Shanahan
still there after?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What? You know?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Again, it's not the way they lose. It is game seven.
I thought, you know, for parts of the series it
was very much and I'm gonna say this lightly, but
it very much was a more a well sorry, a
more well matched series. And people think it's just the
games that they lost. They did not piss a drop.
And that's the issue is that the games they were
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in and they were engaged, they were they were playing
great hockey. But the games the most important once Game
five on home ice, in game seven you go to
absolute sleep. The defensive mistakes were countless huge. Odd Man
Russia is getting out work, getting out battled, Joseph Wall
letting in a couple of softies. It's just it's not enough.
Like again, we keep I feel like we constantly give
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excuses to this Toronto Maple Leafs team and I don't
know what other core for guys have been given this
much opportunity to win a Cup and not do so,
not get blown up. It is time. I'm sorry, nice
time for three years time. It's not blowing up. But
one of the one or two of these no, no,
but one of what I mean by blow up is
mar Scott, one or two of these core four has
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to go. They have to go. I'm sorry, it is
what it is. You have to move on, You have
to find something else. You got to take a swing
because what they've done. And I you know, bradfree Living,
he did some great stuff this year, bringing in some
really good pieces.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I take that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think if Anthony Stolars doesn't get a concussion, I
think he's this is a These two games that they
got blown out are much tighter, but I don't know
if the result would have been the same. But it's
just indicative of what this team does in these big moments.
They just they they panic within their game and then
you know all series, nobody's yelling in game five, nobody's
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on the bench screaming. It looks really quiet, and all
of a sudden, Games ten seven, everybody's screaming at each
other and I'm like, what you're doing this now? Like
you're doing this now, like now's not the time, like
it should have been done in game three, game four.
You allow this to happen and then you panic in
the biggest moment in the biggest game instead of you know,
releasing some pressure from the valve and then you know,
like you said, take another sialis and get hard and
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get going, because man like for them to play the
way they played in game six, they're in Florida improbable
like I was not Lyons. Nothing in the lions Den.
Minus two forty is the betting line for the Florida Panthers.
Everybody's thinking they're dead in the water. They go out
and they put on a performance, they block shots, and
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what do they do in game seven? They run out
of gas once again. And the biggest thing is, you know,
you can say Toronto Maple's apolas, but there's levels in
this league if if you want to win, and Toronto
Mapleas aren't at the level to win a Stanley Cup.
Yet they're not there yet. They just it's close. It
may be close, but it's not close enough. It's not there.
And if you're not there, you got to make a change.
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You got to make a change at the top. It
trickles down. Brendan Shanahan is at ample time. The needs
to move on. The needs to bring in new blood.
There needs to be a new direction with this team,
and it needs to result in one or two of
the core four being gone and maybe some other bigger
pieces be gone. You need to change the identity of
this franchise because you need to get it out. It's
been enough time, It's been long enough. All these other
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guys that are gonna leave, whoever leaves Marner will probably go,
maybe John Tavaras. These guys will have success in other places.
I alluded to last time Florida Panthers had a great
team when Jonathan Huberto was scoring over one hundred points.
They had a fantastic team that could have potentially won
a Stanley Cup. Bill Zito did not think it was enough.
He went and mixed huge trade Mackenzie Wieger Jonathan Huberto
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for Matthew Kachuck, and it changes the identity that franchise.
They going to win a Cup. Now, I'm not saying
they wouldn't win without Huberto or Wiger, but you have
to make those decisions. You've got to put your balls
on the line, and I just don't think they they
really truly have. I don't think Brendan Channon truly has
put his balls in the line yet. I think it's
been a lot of wait and see it. Now it's
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that's it, It's done. This is the last one. You
you've seen what you need to see. You cannot you
got You got blown out by Florida two years in
a row. This is and not to listen, seven games,
seven games. Anything can happen in a game seven. So
credit to them for getting there. But it's not enough
to win a Stanley Cup. And that is the only,
the only point that needs to be made.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
One guy always works, as Paul Marie six and zero
Game seven's in his career, love Mos. He comes through
and gets his team prepared. Toronto's now lost seven straight.
Game seven is dating back to twenty thirteen. You mentioned
the core four, specifically, two shots for Mitch Marder, two
shots for Austin Matthews, two shots it's for Willie Nilander,
one shot for John Tavars. The core four did not
step up with the most and it leads to more
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searching and more soul searching and trying to find the
right answer and back to your point. Each year there's
a different fall guy, right to an old film noir.
Who's the fall guy gonna be in the Maltese Falcons?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So in the past?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, it's it's Dubis, this moron here, This is pocket protective,
this this analytical DWEP. Get him out of here, all right,
Sheldon Keith. He stinks, he doesn't know how to motivate
these guys.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He blows.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Let's bring Craig Beruby, Craig Ruby's tough man, chief former flyer.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
This guy kicks ass up there. That didn't work out either.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Shit, Okay, well, as you said, you've got her of
the GM, you got her the coach players.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's on Shanny. How is it not on Brendon Shanny?
And I respect him, I love it. How for fox sakes,
what else are we gonna do here? Curly the president
is the guy doing the team. What was he got
pictures on people? He's got a lifetime deal Shanny, It's
been fun, buddy Sea.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, if you're a Panthers fan, God, you gotta
be so proud of this team. The guts, the fortitude,
the determination, give me some more synonyms like that, they
just clog up that neutral zone. Man, they lose the
first two games of this series, they don't even blake.
We're gonna win the sucker in seven. Bob's gonna be
a fortress back there.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Like.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They're an incredible hockey team to watch, top to bottom,
Like full admiration of them.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I mean their top players are top players. You know,
Sasha Barkovs one of the best players in the NHL,
not enough credits, super underrated, Serge Bbovski, one of the
best goalies in the NHL and one of the most clutch.
They do not have any Richard panic in their game.
They do not panic one iota. This team is you know,
they just they have leaders, they have winners, they know
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what it takes. These guys are dogs on bone. They
just wear you down. I mean, if you look, and
I didn't mention this before, the amount of hits they
put on the defenseman of Tampa of Toronto, Chris tanneb
was hit over one hundred times in this playoffs, just
over a hundred times, you know me times Seth Jones
and Eric Eckblad, not even fifty, not even fifty times,
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over one hundred. That will wear on you. And they
just body shot, body shot, and everybody, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Said, that's a crazy graphics start to catch up. They
sholl try all the leafs defensemen.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're right, the numbers are like eighty and above, just
getting massacred every time.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And when you get hit, whether it's a big hit
or a small hit, it speeds up your thought process
and your decision making process. You don't move the puck
as smoothly as you normally would because you know that
you're gonna have a body on you. S see, I
gotta speed it up. I gotta speed it up. And
the forwards are being there like why are you guys
throwing it up our ass? Like why are we getting
bad passes? It's like because no one's slowing down these guys.
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And this is what they do. They just over a
seven game series. Uh, they just wear you down as
a defenseman. And there's nothing worse that even if it's
not a hard hit, somebody's rubbing in you every single
time to go back and get that puck over a
seven game series, you will be fatigue, You'll big exhausted.
And you look at the d man on the Florida Panthers,
huge games tonight. Look at the demon They're the highest
scoring defense cores in the Stanley Cup playoffs if over
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twelve goals by defenseman.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
All right, so that does it with the guards the
Panthers in the Maple Leafs.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
As far as the Dallas Stars are concerned, they do
indeed advance third straight, heading to the Western Conference Final
for the second street will we being the Edmonton Oilers
in the Final four thanks to Thomas Harley's overtime winner
ninety three seconds into extra time in Game six. And
it's interesting. One of the keys to me, obviously JD,
was that Jake Ottinger saved. He was rock solid the
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entire game. Twelve goals in the entire six game series.
That save on Mason Appleton. You look for a defining
moment in the series. You know, this wasn't the series
where you go, okay. We kept saying, could Connor Helbook
win a game on the road, could he finally overcome
his Demons. He wasn't the reason they lost. The Jets
didn't score, but that youre save as good as it gets.
Incredible moment.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, Listen, Jake Gottinger won that series more than I
think Winnipeg lost it. I just think I was one
of the harder people on Connor hellibook all season, all
playoffs on the road. His last two games on the
road was were fantastic. He just could not get the
run support. And we kind of talked about it on
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the network, like, I don't know if it's if the
team is just so worried about the losing record on
the road that they just tried to play such a
tight game, but they were getting offensive zone scoring chances
the last two games on the road in that series.
But man, Jake Ottinger is something special and his he's
kind of they've been waiting for him to kind of arrive,
and you know, he's had some good playoffs, but nothing
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like you know, eye opening of why he should be
the number one guy, you know, moving forward in the
Olympics and anytime for Team USA and why they brought
him into be a franchise goalie. And he showed him
this series. He came alive. There's a lot of guys
that had breakout rounds for the Dallas Stars, and he
was one of them. And I still think people arguing say, well,
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he's been to the conference finals this and I'm like, no, no,
that this is He's put on a statement in the
first two rounds.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And as far as another guy who put on a
statement as Thomas Arlot, we've talked about before, how good
he is, how this was his coming out part of
the four Nations. He sets up Sam Steele's time goal
in the second period before he got this series quincher.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So obviously Harley, this was a big moment frame as well.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well that what more can you say about a guy
that steps up in the absence of Miro Hayskin. And
the reason they were allowed to let Mero get fully
healthy and come back was because of Thomas Harley. If
it's not for Thomas Harley, they probably have to rush him.
They don't win. He is as big a piece to
that team as Jake Ottinger. And you know, you can
really luck out when you get a one A, one
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B defenseman on a team, and those are so hard
to find. You look at teams that they their whole
franchise is based on they cannot find a number one
defenseman and Dallas has two of them. And you know,
and also we can't say enough about Mero Hayskin and
coming back and logging just enormous minutes last game. I
think it's like over twenty two minutes. And he has
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just been you know, for a guy to be out
for three and a half months come back and be
as effective as he's been is a testament to him.
Like there's not many guys like if you're out three
and a half months, ad Nan, like you're not getting
a look in the playoffs, little and like you gotta
go down to the minor, you got to. Like, but
a guy like that is so good and so hockey
IQ high in such an effortless skater that he's able
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to do that. But yeah, back to Thomas Harley, like
just a breakout season, you know what a year he's
had four nations kind of leading this team in the
Dallas Stars. And now look out because this is a
fully healthy Dallas Stars team that last year against Edmonton
was not fully healthy and that's kind of what did
the men in that series. So this is gonna be intersting.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Hayston twenty three minutes forty seconds. In Game six, Harley
played twenty five minutes for the Jets. We'll get to
Shifley playing with a heavy heart and an enormous effort
in just a second. But for the Jets overall, ten
straight road playoff losses you alluded to, does it get
in their head to the fact they just can't win
away from Canada Life Center. But you gotta look at
the mirror and say, Okay, you've now lost all those
games I just mentioned. You're finished regular season fifty six wins,
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one hundred and sixteen points.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
A lot of questions answered. Nikolai Egler's unrestricted phase.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
He's not going to be back, gave the already restricted
free agent do for a nice raise.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you tinker with the team? JD. How do
you get the Jets the next level?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And there's so incredible the regular season and they can't
get to a conference final.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I think now's the time to overspend. I think
this is a big offseason for them. I think they're
gonna have cap space. They need to spend that money.
I don't think Nicola Eelers I haven't heard anything of him.
He's going to get overpaid somewhere and rightfully so I
think he's a fantastic player. If you're looking at him
versus Mitch Marner, I'm taking nickol Eilers at three million
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cheaper and probably going to be happier with him. He
was a dog in these playoffs. I don't think he
He just improved his capital and his his trade and
not as sorry as free agency value. So he's going
to test the market. But they got to go out
and sign a big player. They got to make a move,
or they got to trade trade picks and bring somebody
in because they're cut. They're right there, they're just they're
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missing I think one more forward, you know, and but
you look at it, it's just one of those head
scratchers that I just think they ran in. They're in
that central division that if they're in the Pacific, they
probably cruise through the Pacific, but they're in the Central
and it's so tough to come out of there. It's
just a war. I think that Saint Louis series took
a lot out of them. Obviously they lose Josh Morrissey
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in that game that looked it looked horrendous. What happened,
So that was a big loss for them, and they
just kind of at the wrong time, got some injuries
and obviously some horrible news. But it's a team that
I think is you can guarantee they'll be back at
the top of the heap next year. And but I
think it's a big an offseason for them, Like they
need to really find somebody to come in and you know,
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find some depth scoring and some depth pieces because a
lot of that, a lot of that burden offensively falls
in that first line, and I think there's there's just
some holes in the depth that they need they can
they can bring in and shore up. I like their decor,
I do. I like they got to resign Samberg. I'm
pretty sure he's going to get off for sheeted, so
they got to make sure they get somebody that they
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got to pay him and he's number one because I
thought he really improved euro every year and this is
going to be the This is going to be an
offseason for them. And then lastly, they need to get
a real true backup goalie they need.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We've learned something with hell of it here, Like I'm
glad that, as you said, Game four game with three goals.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Game five pitches shut up.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Game six played well, so you can't see the rest
of the seris was lost by him. But clearly stop let
them play so much in the regular season, right fifty five?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's it? Like what what are you chasing? What do
you need to feel better? Like it's in listen his
styles conducive to you know, they say that he's not
you know, it's it's not as fatiguing and it's not
as tiring, but it doesn't matter mentally the weight and
emotionally of playing these NHL hockey games over and over
again and then going and trying to find another level
in the playoffs, like you need to find And that's
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the other thing. If you want to play that much great,
you need a legitimate one bee that can come in
the playoffs if shit goes south, and which happened a
few times in these playoffs for Winnipeg, and I think
it made it a lot harder on them to get
out of that first round. In parts of the second round,
I think if they weren't so hung up on you know,
Hella Buck's road record and how he is on the road,
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I think they probably do better. So they need a
guy that they can pull him early, and like a
little bit like Edmonton with Skinner and Picard, you need
a guy that you can trust, because they obviously showed
they don't trust air Comray at all.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And as far as playing with a heavy heart, I mean,
this is an amazing job by Winnipeg's.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ander Mark Stifley. He plays and opens the screen with
the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
This is literally hours after it to be able that
his father brought unexpectedly passed away on Friday night. So
Shifley goes out there and was able to play a
whale of a game. He really just can't imagine what
it's going through his mind. I thought this was particularly notable,
Producer Tal pointing out some Dallas Stars fans took to
the Internet to encourage one of them to donate fifty
five dollars, which is Shafey's number, to the True North
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Youth Foundation and Kidsport Canada, both cherries supported by Shafeley.
That's a big time classman by Dallas.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Makes you think about.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Brett Farv very famously lost his father when the Monday
Night football went out there, I feel like four touchdowns
are three hundred yards, said this is what my dad
would have wanted. You often to hear players say that, JD,
It's what my dad would have wanted to be out there.
But I think it's still a courageous moment and more
respect to Mark Schite to what he was able to
do out there.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, that's a man. It's tough because you know, I
was talking to my mom about it today and my
dad too. It's like, you know, your your parents see
your first NHL game and most of the times you
know you're you're lucky enough that they see your last
NHL game. So you know, hell of a job by
him for you know, playing and honoring his father by
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doing that. That to your point, courageous act. But yeah,
it's it's tough because you know they're the people that
support you. They are with you every step of the
way through your NHL career and leading up to it,
so to not be able to see it through with
them as well as you know, listen, it's it's a
parent You never want to see your your parents go suddenly.
And you know, during a time like that where you're
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you know, still playing and you're still kind of occupied,
you want to be able to have as much time
as you can, and that's the biggest thing. So that
loss of time is is the saddest part about this.
But you know, for him to go out and play,
and again, hats off to the Dallas Stars fans for
what they did. That's amazing and a really classy move.
But you know, it's a loss of a parent's never easy.
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And you know, I thought he handled himself so admirably
and for him to score, you know, I saw a
tweet of like that was Mark Schaeffer assisted by Brad Shaifeley,
and that's just something that's so cool. You know, he
was looking down and smiling and you know that's how
the only way he probably knew how to honor his
father in that moment, and it was something his dad
probably would have wanted. So you know, hearts go out
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to him big time, and he's I know him personally,
he's a good kid, and I'm sure that's tough one
and it's never it's never easy seeing that hearing that,
or even I can only imagine what he must have
been going through.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's all I said. That's a great tweet as well.
So the when I picked Jets are no longer moving on.
We'll do our second round previous in just a second,
but first special guest ever wondered the creation of the
Soup Nazi?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
How did the Elaine Dance come to be?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Spike Ferriston wrote some the most iconic Seinfeld episodes, a
worked on David Letterman for years. The difference is between
Jerry and Dave. All that more coming up. We're throwing
a little curveball here. Spike Ferrison's coming up after this
on NHL and scripted our next guest. An accomplished writer
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and comedian best known for his work on Seinfeld and
both of David Letterman's late night shows. He's also written
for The Simpsons, The Dana Carvey Show, and Space Ghost
Coast to Coast. He was the host of Talk Show
with Spike Ferristone and Fox and now hosts Spike's Car Radio.
It's Spike Ferristons. Spike, it's great to see you man.
Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Yeah, good to be here, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Let's start first off with car Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Great guests out of the gates, Carol Lee for obviously
Jerry Seinfeld, good friends of yours.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Where did this concept come from?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
This came from Jerry and I and a couple of
friends taking drive every weekend out to Malibu, and you know,
we would stop and get coffee and sandwiches at this
little deli, and we noticed people were kind of leaning in.
And once someone even transcribed our conversation and put it
in the Malibu Times, And while Jerry was a little
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upset about it, I.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Said, you know, I think this could be an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
People really want to listen to our stupid conversations while
we record them and see if we can find a following.
And here we are in our eighth year and we
just launched on YouTube, and I guess people think of
us as a downloadable cars and coffee that really, you know,
covers entertainment, comedy, cars in the southern California automotive scene.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I think it's the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Spike's car Radio again.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We're talking to Spike Ferriston right now on Obviously we're
all Seinfeld fan. Spike, my brother's a massive Seinfeld guy.
So I text him earlier I said I'm talking to Spike,
which I asked him, and he goes hey. In the
Soup Nazi episode, apparently Spike actually witnessed a cusher the
real life Souper Kitchen comprying the actual guy to al
Pacino can verify that.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Yes, that really happened.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
A very unfortunate woman in front of me said to
the real soup Nazi New York on fifty fifth and eighth,
you know you kind of look like al Pacino. In
the episode, he says a different line than he said
in real life.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
In real life, it was.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
A stream of expletives that I will spare you. It
was really horrible, and I felt really awful for the woman,
but but true to form, myself and everybody in the
line just kind of turned away and pretended we didn't hear.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's what most brilliant episodes I've ever written, and it
proves against Spike comedy comes from real life sources.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
You sometimes, yeah, sometimes, yeah, sometimes, But a lot of
that is real, A lot of that that happened in there,
And and Larry and Jerry were you know, it's great
that they put it on because they could have changed
a lot of it. And I would go, you know,
that's real and this is real, and they go, okay,
let's do it. It's funny enough.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is there any other episodes that stand out to you?
I know there's wig Master, muffin Top stuff like that,
But is there one that stands out more than because
you get the most acclaim is souper Nazi, But you know,
there's so many other amazing ones that you kind of
partook and helped write.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You know, the Elaine Dance seems to get a lot
of play, you know, Little Kicks, the Brooklyn Cyclones.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Every summer the Mets minor league team have an.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Alaye dance thing, and I see it on the internet
all the time, which is really fun, you know, But
I had no idea we were writing things that we'd
be talking about with you guys. You're just trying not
to get fired. You're like, Okay, well this is guy.
I know he's got a terrible dancer.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Little Kicks. Great, let's try that. Let's do it, you know,
go ahead. That was the fun of the show, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Larry said early on, I don't want you guys to
come in and make up stories. I want you to
tell me stories from last night. You went on a date,
you went to a party, and this happened. You haven't
stopped thinking about it, and you're polite, guys. I'm sure
you did the right thing. But what did you want
to do? What did you want to say? What did
you think about doing next? He said, that's where the
stories for this show are, and it was the perfect advice.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know, it is great advice.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I know you weren't involved with the episode The Face Painter,
but it's a hockey podcast, so just c respect any stories.
David Putty the Devil's Fandom Tonic episode.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yeah, no, I loved anything with David Putty embarrassing Elaine.
That was always the most fun because, you know, with
the eight ball jacket is a good example that, like
when I was living in New York, there are two
things that would upset me on my walk to work,
men wearing fur coats. I just is like, I don't
I don't understand what this is and I needed to stop.
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And then the eight ball jacket was another one. This
this horrible.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
You know, I'd be on the.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Subway and go, what the effort is this guy?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Does he know how bad he looks? And with Putty,
I thought, well, there's that guy. I can i and
start putting this stuff on him and maybe help New
York not have to experience this, you know, by you know,
embarrassing everybody who's wearing them in New York.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
But I think it's now had the opposite effect.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Maybe to add NAT's point of us being a hockey podcast,
and you know, we're both just huge fans of all
your works, so we're like, I screw the hockey. But
you know, you grew up in mass and that's a
huge sports town. Yeah, do you kind of have any
memories of growing up and was hockey kind of ever
part of your life in any semblance or any form.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
There's no real life in Massachusetts other than sports. So
very early on, if you know, I was thinking about
it and I knew would get get to this point,
and I was thinking, I grew up on a street,
like there were three streets of boys. So you would
go to school, you'd play school sports, you'd come home
and you played every single sport played, including ice hockey
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and street hockey mostly, and there's only you know, for me,
I'm a little older, there was only one guy. Bobby
Orr was the guy in you know, Massachusetts who you
wanted to be. And the Bruins hadn't won for all
of those years. I don't It might have been as
far back as the forties and then you know, I
think I was two years old maybe when they got
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Bobby Orr on the team, and then in nineteen seventy
they won the Stanley Cup, and then again seventy two,
maybe somewhere around there, and you know, so you know,
for me, it was funny because when we would play
these games, we were all Bobby Orr and if you
were the goalie, you were Gordy Howe. So there's two
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Gordy Howe's and all Bobby Orr's were all playing each
other in hockey. And now you know, I have a
kid in high school who plays lacrosse, which I knew
nothing about, and I've had had to have a crash
course in that, and I find that's very much. He
plays box lacrosse in the fall in the summer, and lacrosse,
you know, they just wrapped their season and won the championship.
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But it's very much like hockey, you know, you know,
penalty boxes and the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
So you know, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I've started thinking about hockey again because of lacrosse.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, it's a great point. Steve Levy, of course from ESPN,
was our recent guest. He was telling us difference in Boston,
New York he said, New York. You know, there's obviously
a great sports fan, so they're passionate, especially in the building,
but seventy five percent of people might be fans of
Broadway or foodies, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And yeah, yeah, everyone's a sports fan. Everywhere you go
you see a Red Sox's.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Well, there's a reason that we don't have anything else.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
We've got We've got we've got decent clam chowder, bluefish
in this summer, and then sports. And it's like, you know,
it's one of the funniest things is the women as
they get older, they become massive sports fans. Like my
mom is in her eighties, she's eighty six right now,
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and in April, I said, how do the Red Sox look?
And she could have she could have guessed it on
this show the next thirty minutes of her appraisal of
who is traded?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Who coming on? What's happening? Where I think it's going?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I was, I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
This woman never went to one of my.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Baseball games growing up, and it's so funny to watch
it happen. And you know, I used to bartend in
Boston to put myself through college, and I would meet
these you know these folks, these Red Sox fans in particular,
these guys, these men and women who are like in
their eighties, who were like, I'm staying alive. I'm staying
alive in the hopes that the Red Sox will win.
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And they're not smiling. It's not a joke. They're like,
this is what's carrying me forward. I'll bet you if
you looked at the stats of two thousand and four,
it was a big die off. Yeah, they were like,
all right, I'm out, hold on in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
No, I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
But yeah, we love sports because it's it's cold and
it's miserable there and it brings us so much joy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I mean my years in Worcester, mass were a lot
of cold at hockey. And yeah, yeah, I want to
kind of put you on the spot and you know,
your gear heads, and then I also want to say,
if you were to kind of compare a car to
the NHL or hockey, what would that car be in
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you know, if that that's me putting on you on
the spot as much as I can, but what would
that car be to you? Something that kind of personifies
and embodies hockey in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Well, there's there's a great new event that Porsche puts
on with one of the Porsche kids firty and it's
called a fat ice race, and it it goes. It's it's,
it's it's like they they have beautiful old cars like
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five fifties and three fifty six's, sometimes with spikes on
the tires and they they drag people on skis behind
them and have these races twice a year. It's an
amazing event. And you know, Porsche has a there there
there there have always been ice races, and a friend
of mine owned a car, a three fifty six that
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has they there are these like rubber tires with these
big spikes on them and they race on ice. I
mean to me, that's that's as hockey as you can get.
You know, you're just flying around a track on ice
with giant spikes on your tire. The Swedes do it.
It's you know, it's it's it's a big thing in
the Nordic countries. But that's your hockey. I don't know
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if anybody's fighting. I guess the La freeways are the fights.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah. I like the studs on the tires a little rough.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, The studs on the tires. Yeah, yeah, we get
a lot of a lot of rage here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Now you mentioned let him in earlier one of your bosses.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Of course, Dave is a huge gear have we know
how much he loves auto racing and all this years,
I remember I haven't worked at ESPN. He's going to
tell me. You know, this is like eighties. You couldn't
get certain races. So Dave would drive to Bristol, Connecticut.
They let him in the backyard just so we could
watch the races. He was he was that much of
an enthusiast one oh yeah, f one or you know
at that time Indy car.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But I wanted to ask specifically.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Darren Demiterio is a friend of mine who worked at
the years ago to USPN.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
He worked on Late Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He was one of the guest bookers, and he said
I didn't interact much with Dave. We'd see him once
a year, you know, the Holliday party. Say allow kind
of thing, he said, But but he did have some
great moments with guests, and he says his favorite single
moment working for years and Late Night with David Letter
was he met Don Rickles the first time he's in
the brain or whatever. And the next time Don Rickles,
this is like three years later, Don Nichols.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is there and Darren's keeping in company. I have a
Rickles season without missing a meating. He goes, and by
the way, Darren's about five for five. He goes, im,
gross is the last time I saw you?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
And he goes, you know, being insaulted by Don Rickles
was like such a badge of honor for him.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Working on that show, what memories not necessarily just of Dave,
but of the guests and the people around him.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Well, Dave, I remember doing a charity go cut race,
you know, with a lawnmower, engines and stuff for charity
on his Saturday. And we're down we're down Wall Street
area and the phone is ringing and and it's Dave
calling up Rob Burnett and I'm like, what is Dave?
What is he? He goes, he he wants us to
win this race. And I'm laughing. He goes, I'm serious.
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He goes, he doesn't want us to come in fifth.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Go does he know what we're doing here? We're racing
against Applebee's in coke.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Cards just to raise awareness for MS or something. He goes, Yeah,
you gotta win. We got to find a way to win.
And he had He had called me down in the
office earlier that week and and you know, walked into
my office, which was rare.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He was on the fourteenth floor. I was on the
twelfth floor. And I look over and he sits down
and he goes, uh. He goes, so what are we
doing to win the race? And I, you know, well,
we'll studying the line of the track and the orange cones. David,
he goes, no, seriously, he goes, why are you here?
And I go, I got to write the top ten list.
He goes, no, he goes, you got to get out
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to the race shops in Long Island and figure out
how to win this cut?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Dam are you are you asking me to cheat?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
He goes, I didn't say that, but there's a gray area.
And so I left the office that day and went
out and started, you know, talking to these guys in
these race shops.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I didn't even know what these places were.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And came back with like different springs for the throttle
and different racing plugs. And the best hack was this
purple racing gas that was under and twenty outat or
something and uh, and we you know, we we fixed
up the cart and my cart won.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
We we won.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
We were just blasting everybody. And at the end of
the race, the judges came over and they I go,
what do they do? They go, they got to inspect
the cart, and I went, oh, man, and they looked
at it, looked at the spark plugs, they took out
the gas, they saw the color, and then they came
over and they said, you're you're being.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Busted down a fifth place for what is the charity event.
He goes, We're not disqualifying you, but we're giving you
best uniforms.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
And so if you watch the show the following Monday,
that's what that's what.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Dave congratulated us for uniform but he.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Wasn't he wasn't unhappy because we had done, you know,
what we set out to do, and we did win.
We just didn't get the trophy, but boy does he
care about racing.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's that's unbelievable. Kind of what other differences did you
find working with Letterman And then also you know Jerry
Seinfeld Larry David like, how how was that kind of
just experience and how many little subtleties were the same
between them or just was it just completely different between both.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Oh, very very different.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
But like any business, everything trickles down from the top, right,
you know, it's a culture that's kind of run by
the guy up top. And both of those places I
remembers being so fun, you know, Dave there, there were
just you know, instead of working sometimes in a conference room,
I would be in the hallway with this big driver
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that John Daly had given Dave, that Dave had given me,
just driving golf balls into the wall with some of
the writers were getting big holes into the wall. And
you know, at the time, you know, GE and NBC
owned the show, so no one cared about the offices,
and you know, it was it was like that. And
(35:34):
then we'd go, hey, maybe there's a bit and hitting
golf balls. Maybe we can take snowmobiles on top of
a parking garage. It was always mischief in the office
and then on the show, you know, And that was
so fun for me because I was always getting in
trouble in high school and college for these things, and
now I was being paid to do it, you know,
and you know, yeah, it was a way of turning
(35:57):
a big negative in my life into a job.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
One more for you, Spike, tow's a big the Data
Carvey Show. He wanted to ask you about it, Go
ahead tell you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I mean, I'm sure, Spike, you get asked about a
lot of different shows you worked on. But I feel
like the Dana Carvey Show has taken on sort of
like a mythical energy as time has passed, especially considering
how long the show was actually on the air. And
you look at some of the names involved with the
show at the time, Louis c. K and Robert Smigel
and Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert, I know, you know, yeah,
(36:29):
it was. It was a short lived adventure for all
you guys. But I'd love to hear any sort of
any sort of memories really from that experience.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, I was on Seinfeld at the time when the
show launched, and I watched their first episode and lost
my mind. I thought, I think there was a Bill
Clinton like nursing puppies sketch and you know, which isn't
so shocking now, but back then, remember everything was time slots, right,
(36:58):
so you know, eight to nine o'clock was Family Hour,
and nine o'clock, who is going to get a little
more dangerous that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Was.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
That was definitely one am to two AM at the time.
So when it went on, I went, Oh my god,
and I watched this show and I just thought it
was absolutely brilliant that Smigel had done such a great
job with it. And I know Dana really well. I've
always known what a huge talent he is, and it
was I believe it was a mid season replacement. So
like right around April, I called my agent up and
(37:27):
I said, I've got like three or four weeks off.
Do you think you can get me a job on
the show, because I'd love I just love to spend
my vacation working there. I don't even care if they
pay me. I just want to be around it because
the comedy is so good. So weirdly it worked and
they had one position, and I brought my friend Steve O'Donnell,
was a former head writer of Letterman, and we went
We went in there. We shared an office with Stephen
(37:49):
Colbert and Steve Carell and you know who were new
And I remember saying to Steve, I go, geez, these
guys are so talented, but I don't think they're going
to go anywhere if this show doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
And at some point I got a phone call. Oh no,
the ABC executive came in and said, can we talk
to you guys? And I said sure, and they said, well,
you know, what's your plan?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
You know?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And I said, well what do you mean. They go, well,
we hired you because we thought you could save this show.
And then we went, oh, no, no, no, we love
the show. We wanted to do exactly what Smigel and
Dana want to do. Somehow, my agent had pitched me
because the show was in trouble to come in and
fix it and got it entirely wrong. And I think
(38:38):
that was like the final beat of the story for
the show. We just wrote, whatever Dana and Smigel we're
looking for, and you know, and then it didn't work,
you know, it just fell apart. But it was really
just the time slot that did it, you know. It
was just in the wrong spot.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
And another another one I had to asked about. A
friend of ours is Rob Burnette. I don't know if
you were, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Huge Rangers fan.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
He's told me that when the Rangers brought the Stanley
Cup on Letterman in nineteen ninety four, that's like one
of the highlights of his life. I'm just curious about
any exchanges with him. Did he ever try to get
you involved with, you know, a fan of the Rangers,
or any friendly rivalries with.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Well, I'm pretty sure didn't Rob build a hockey rink
in his front yard. That's how much he loves hockey.
I am fairly certain. Someone told me that and said,
you're not gonna believe what Burnett did. And I'm pretty
sure it was built a hockey rink in his front yard.
Jerry has a baseball diamond in his front yard.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I have bushes.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
But I think Rob was also behind this really epic
Christmas party where we all skated and played hockey, and
that would make sense if he's a big hockey fan.
Where we all came out, we got the gear, it
was the entire staff. We played hockey to the best
of our ability. You know, I remember coming into the
(40:10):
stands after going wow, you know, I didn't know I.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Had this talent to play. I can't wait to see
the footage. And then we all looked like three year
olds on skates for the first time.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
What we thought we had done on the rink and
what in actuality was recorded.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
We're just so like a Canyon apart.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
It was such a funny experience, you know, and it
gave me so much respect for players because I thought, Wow,
I was really doing this and we weren't even close.
We weren't even close. But Rob was decent.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
He was good.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Spike's Car right to make sure you listen to a
Car's Coffee and Comedy hosted by Communian automotive enthusiast Spike Versta.
Just looking at the ample episodes alone, you've got Patrick
long in the future of Porscha mcmurcery smoking the Porsche
GTS or asked Jerry Seinfeld's multimillion dollar Rolex and cyber
truck not accepted.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I got closed with this, Spike. I know you guys
de bait of this. I'll listen to the episode.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But whether not the Tesla cyber truck is a legitimate flop,
it is.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
The short answer it is.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
You know, I I know the fellas that designed it.
I you know, I I drove it, and I did
like the way it drove. It just has no hope
of ever becoming something that looks normal in our environment.
And and you know, I know it's a highly political topic,
but let's set that aside. It looks like a dumpster
with four wheels. And I live I live on the
(41:35):
west side of LA and there's got to be thirty
or forty of them floating around. And every time you
can see the people roll in their eyes when they
go by, they're they're unsightly, and I think they're going
to forever kind of be like a Dolorean or you know,
any any car that never quite works as styling wise,
exterior design wise, with what's going on in our world.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Just it's just a bad look. There's no question about
Spike's car. Yeah, Spike Pherson, Thanks so much, Spike. This
was awesome. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Yes to meet you.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
All right, quick little silophon in sixty before we get
to our second round previews.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
My favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Ed Helms just finished production a hockey film in Edmonton.
Another hockey film, Another missed opportunity to catch budding thespian
Jason Demurz.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
The film is called.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Smudge the Blades, a dramatic comedy that centers are in
a group of indigenous hockey players in northern Alberta. Clearly,
JD is a man who can appeal to lots of
different Vinis who do not believe he's of indigenous origin.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
But hey, you never know, you.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Gonna have a little bit of chip awat chair k exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
We go way back in the bloodlines. Who knows?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Bottom line is you need to show your range here?
What is it gonna take to get you an audition?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
I don't know if this they just woke left. I
won't just hire me enough. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. Uh too, white listen, I could play
the races if you want me to, Ladies and gentlemen,
I will do that hard task of embodying the guy
being like, you can't play here.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You gotta have one of those guys. Man, that's a
critical movie.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, I also want to you can play, everybody can play.
Let me play.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I also wanted to get the review because you haven't
told what you thought of Henry Johnson David Manmitt's new
movie starring Shilah buff All. All you text was I
started Henry Johnson and they didn't tell me you finished it.
That's an eighty one minute movie, so I'm gonna guess
you didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
No, I actually I actually love the pacing of it.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I watched it with Jill and Jill. You know, Jill
immediately she went and completely bind and within five minutes
she's like, this is really this this show is like
a play. And I'm like, yeah, it's it's same thing.
It's very quick pace. I mean, I think Shila buff
is incredible. I mean, he is so good that just
that that scene in the you know, when that initial
(44:00):
in seeing him meeting in the prison cell and him
talking and just you don't know what's going on, and
he's his movement around the cell where it always seems
like threatening, menacing, but he's not. But he's like, you know,
providing wisdom and it looks like, you know, you keep
thinking like he's gonna grab him, he's gonna do something,
but it just seems like he's offering advice and like
(44:21):
almost like being a psychologist with him and talking to
him mentally about how he is as a like basically
like dissecting him. As he's moving around, You're like, what's
he gonna do? Is he gonna swing on them? So
I just thought it was a very tense scene. And
but I mean, Chaievs I that guy. Everything he does.
If he just wasn't cuckoo for Coco Puffs, he would
(44:41):
be like you look at him and I'm gonna just
leave it at that, like you look at him and
Timothy Shallow. I mean nothing against Timothy Challamy.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
But I featured on sixty Minutes, a huge profile on.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I think shi is is, if not one of the
best actors around and does not get enough love because
he's just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
The second round previews, we go Stars and Oilers.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
As you mentioned earlier, these two teams met in the
West Final last season, Edmonton one and six.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Before that, Dallas lost in the West Final at six.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
The Vegas Golden Knights, you talk about Ransom, your referred
him as Herculean, made his Star's debut against the Oilers
March eighth, gold assistant of five to four Oilers win.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Now there's two things that can be true.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You and I both said the winner of Dallas and
Colorado wins the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That may still be true.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
But you and I also said we're not counting out
against Edmonton again. We both called the Kings, we both
called Vegas. So which of those two facts we stick with?
I'm gonna say I'm not calling against the Oilers again.
I know that the underdog in this series. I'm not
doing it again. I'm calling the oilers in seven.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
What do you got? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I man, it's just so tough because you look once again,
you got Jake ore versus Stuart Skinner, Calvin Picard, two
headed monster, and then you now have Hayskin and an
Harley to skate with McDavid and dry titles, so you
have pieces in place, but I cannot McDavid looks like
(46:09):
he wants to rip somebody's face off right now, like
every game he is. I mean he was, They're up
three to one and he backchecked and almost decapitate himself
on the post to backcheck like in the first period
of a game, like watch you watch these like you
know you you watch these other series and these other superstars.
Not one of these guys is doing that. This guy
wants to win so bad, going after the media after
(46:31):
being like, is that how you look at how we
played defensively? Like tired of answering this question, I'm like,
this guy is gonna ship somebody in the bathroom just
to win a cup right now, like he wants it
so bad. So I just don't know. I think Dallas
is better than they were last year, but I think
Edmonton's better than they were last year. So this is
gonna be an interesting series. And I predict that Edmonton
(46:55):
is gonna implement the same style they did against Vegas,
which is they are going to get to Andre. They
are going to be in his face all series. So
I'm interested to see how that decoor handles that much pressure,
because up to this point, you know, Colorado skilled team
Winnipeg a little bit more defensive structure, you know, other
than the liwtery line, they're not that imposing physically. Edmonton
(47:17):
has proven to be physically imposing in these playoffs, and
I'm gonna be interested to see how they handle that pressure.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Do you want to give you a prediction? What do
you got? All right?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'm not bet We said we have to a lot.
We can't lie to the masses and truth be told,
as much as I want to lie to the masses
and flip flop, flip flop, no oilers, We're gonna go
with the Oilers. We need Canada to win. We need
Canada to win.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
That still stays a lot, by the way that prediction
would have felt a lot better it was Winnipeg. Oh well,
we're riding these Oilers team. Next up Hurricanes and Panthers.
So this series is interesting because again the Panthers with
the effort that they showed unbelievable in Game seven against Toronto.
But I wouldn't say Carolina showed me something. But I
did not think they would dispatch the Capitals in five.
(47:58):
I think I had the Hurricanes winning, but I'm like
that was a strong effort from start to finish. I
still question the lack of a game breaker. Although Svetscha
Copp has been great, and I'm not gonna again dispute
that Freddie Anderson has not been well of these stories
of this.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Playoffs, how good he has been.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Having said that this Panthers team, I see them going
to the third straight Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I will call Panthers in six.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
When an immovable object meets an unstoppable force. Is the
Carolina Hurricanes versus the Florida Panthers, which for check will
get there first. Nice And I tell you what if
Freddie Anderson keeps playing the way he's playing in Jacob's
Slave and now now they're getting old Slave Daddy, which
he's gonna be all over there with stick on puck.
(48:42):
Can they handle the for check of Florida and get
and play that boring hockey that has won them so
many games and frustrated the hell out of teams. I
do not think they've been tested yet in these playoffs.
That's the only issue. They got a new Jersey Devil
teams that was the Walking Dead, and they dispatch the
Washington Capitals, which I just think we're fatigued a little
bit older. This is a different animal than the Florida Panthers.
(49:05):
I want to take a flyer and Jeorde Martin hook
fan of the show. I want to see Carolina gets there,
much of the chagrin of the NHL and the revenue
sharing model. I think the Carolina Hurricanes, I think they
do it in seven. I don't know. I like that
against Florida, but I have to go sideways on this
because fold pick. I like what I've seen against Florida.
(49:26):
But I just think that Carolina might have something here
and I want to see them with everybody shit talking
them all season about the trades they messed up. I
want to see this team with a chip on their shoulder,
with Taylor Hall Mista Scheschnikoff and Jacob Slave in this boring,
boring ass team. Yeah, I want this high flip and.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Ram blogging up the neutral zone.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
That's and I just want them to get there because
it's gonna piss everybody off. And that's why I want it,
because when everybody's eggs's daddy's eggs, it's.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
A great Consuron take. I love it, second time in
three seasons.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Hurricanes Panthers Eastern Conference Bottle Florida swept the Canes in
twenty twenty three before losing to Vegas and the cup
file of the Panthers took two or three games against
Carolina during the regular season, though they haven't played since January.
Second and one final the great Rod Brendan were played
under Paul Maurice when they were in Carolina together, so
interesting coaching matchup as well. One more thought here before
we get the three Stars World Championships in Sweden and Denmark,
(50:23):
we spoke to sharkspore Re Tyler to fully how Maclin
celebrity could learn something from Sidney Crosby. Well, thirty seven
year old Crosby eighteen year old celebraty. They've been a
four so far for Team Canada seven nothing went over
Slovakia on Saturday. Crosby two goals to assist Max Elliott
goal and two assists. How much can I think celebrity
is having playing with Crosby.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I mean, I'm just already regretting my pick of taking
the Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
No, I think it's right, such a gutsy picks.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's the dumbest pick ever. You could please add this
to it as well, just have it say a few
moments later and me just being like, I completely.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
No, no, but everyone's SIGs. You're gonna sag.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
I love it. But this Florida team is just an
absolute wagon. But yeah, I mean, if I'm Sidney Crosby
and I'm playing with Maclin celebrity right now and he
is just dishing and the chemistry high, I'm rethinking not
asking for a trade out of Pittsburgh and be like,
this is how the other half can live when I'm
playing with these young kids that are just so good
(51:25):
and can get me the puck over whatever the dumpster
fire is and the Pittsburgh Penguins right now. So but
it's fun to see him. You know, they're having a blast.
It's a great tournament I played there. It's such so
much fun. Everybody's calm, everybody's having fun, and you know,
especially in these round robin games and you're just piss
pumping these teams like from Slovenia and like these teams
that have no NHL players and this is a stacked team.
(51:47):
It is so much fun because you're just like, oh, yeah,
we just globetrotters this, and that's what it's looked like
right now. But yeah, it's it's I'm sure celebrity is
having a ton of fun too, playing with Sidney Crosby
and you know, learning so much. This is going to
help him, you know, help him, help him big tight.
And he hearing that Connor Bodard said no to the
World Championships is crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, well, I just said it'll certainly help sell bring
his developments.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Why wouldn't Connorverdard go there? I don't I won't to
understand that.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
But yeah, it's an I guess all right, three stores,
three stars just be closed the shop. I'll give it
to Mark Schiffley, honoring his father Brad literally hours aftere
Feenerty passed week, goes up there and scores a goal.
The Jets may have lost the game, but it was
a great moment for all of the games bright young Stars.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Props to Mark Scheifeley for playing with a heavy heart.
Who do you got, jad?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
I'm going with Seth Jones, fan of the show. I
just what a game, What a step up he is?
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
I think all time minutes by defenseman in the playoffs,
he is like number three on the list at like
twenty eight minutes average. Uh. And he's just been doing everything.
What a trade. Everybody scoffed at that trade, But Seth
Jones is a number one, number one B defenseman and
he has been proving that. And this team, this Florida
(52:57):
team looks scary once again, and they have that belief
and they're just walking their way to this and the
Cup finals. But not if the Carolina Hurricanes have something
to say, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Tell your pick. Yeah, I mean, I gotta go with
Brad Marshaw.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
It's just the excell too, Florida Panthers.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
No, none of us the impressive in Game seven, none of.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Us taking Any Edmonton Oilers players.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Will mention, yeah he kicks.
Speaker 8 (53:30):
There's a few gays we get pick there, But just
Marshaw I mean, this guy's gonna be haunting Leafs fans
nightmares for generations what he's done to this team over
the years. You know, eight points in seven games in
this series against Toronto, including a goal and two assists
in game seven.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I mean, how the the game, game five and Game
seven drubbings of the Toronto may be leiefs that hurts
so bad?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well, that's how we start the show. That's how we
end the show.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Awful performance, by the way, believes standing performance by the
Florida Panthers. As we are now officially entering the third round,
just four teams left, but still twice a week of
NHL Unscripted, one social Media Clipper episode.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Thanks again to Smike Ferriston. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
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