Best Guest Moments 2025 Part 3: Jim Jones, Sterling Sharpe, Quinshon Judkins

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0:00 - Unc get emotional as his brother, Sterling joins to discuss HOF induction

18:22 - Shannon Sharpe CHECKS Jim Jones on DISRESPECTING NAS, Lifting Weights, & Club Shay Shay!

31:56 - Browns RB Quinshon Judkins EXPOSES the TRUTH to Unc about Shedeur & Dillon’s Relationship

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
H m hmm.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey what they do hall of Famer? When they do
Hall of Famer?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Where'd you an go?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
May y'all clap it up?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Never stolen shop man?

Speaker 5 (00:49):
M where you go?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Or mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
May what they do? Baby? Thank thanks, sir, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
Oh no, no, no, get back like you work. Yeah,
he's bad, he's bad. Thank you very much. It's been
a long day and even longer trying to get here
from over there. But thank you for staying. Hopefully we
can get you out of here shortly because I gotta

(01:33):
get up early in the morning again. But uh, a
tremendous day. It's Uh, it's an honor and a pleasure
to follow that guy for for a change, and uh
and being the first brothers inducted into the Pro Football

(01:54):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Don't you don't you try it, don't do that. I
want to know.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
You have to tell me, tell the people out here.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
Understanding and knowing all you've been through, where all come from,
what it took the bigot to the NFL, the struggles
having to lead a game early, what this night means
to you.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
It's kind of interesting, Oach, because I never wanted to
be in the Hall of Fame. I never expected to
be in the Hall of Fame. This is not something
I asked for. This is not something I wished for.
This is not something I prayed for, because when I
left the game, the only thing anybody ever talked about

(02:43):
is what I didn't do.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Now, I'm okay with that. I am.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I'm okay with what I put on film, I'm okay
with that. But so I never had any expectations. This
is not like Christmas to where you know you won't
escapeboard or you want a bike, or you want them
pair of Jordan's.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
This isn't like that.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
So for me today is kind of interestingly surreal because
I didn't want this. This is not something I wished
on myself. But you know, being there and seeing my
friends that are in the Hall of Fame that were
more excited than seemed like I am right now, but

(03:28):
they were genuinely happy. My good friend Tera Loewens, I
hope I'm not. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong
by putting Tarot's business in the street.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Teo cried.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
T O and I go way way way back to
the before he even got in the league, and he
was so happy for me that he and I had
about a good forty five second moment to where we
just kind of we kind of got wrapped up in
each other and history and the time and all that.
So it's it's been a really good day each but

(04:05):
let me tell you, I haven't gotten there yet. It's
gonna it's gonna take a little more time to get there. Congratulations,
thank you, thank you, and I know thanks. It's been
a long time since you've seen that guy speechless over there.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
You know your little brother loves you, man, Yes he does.

Speaker 8 (04:27):
When he talks about you, he talks about the man
that the only man that he's ever hoped to be
the measure up to because he knows he couldn't do it.
And anybody that knows you, and anybody knows him knows
how he feels about you me personally.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know how much love I've.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Always had for you, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Get some tissue then we needs up here.

Speaker 9 (04:50):
For those of you who might be too young to remember,
we religiously talk about Jerry Rice being the greatest receiver
in NFL history.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
Those who know football before too, before Randy Moss, we
would all mention him because he was that sensational of
a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
He was big time, and.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
So to them watch you transition into the business before.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Your brother did. He did a hell of a job.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
Talking the game of football, teaching the game of football,
working with cats in the industry and showing us the
way as well, and had that pediby. There's so many
people that followed that played in the NFL and now
doing television. You were doing it before most and you
were doing exceptionally well. And so for me to see
you have this day, thank you, thank you is well deserved,

(05:46):
and I'm just happy for you. It's long overdue, but
it's here. Congratulations, Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I think the thing is why it gets sold emotion.
And people ask why, I said, because I had GPS
to get to where I'm going, because I had to
follow him. You see, he did what he did with
no navigational system. He had no mapquests, he had no Google,
he had no instructional manual. I had all of that

(06:18):
because I got to walk in his footsteps. A lot
of what I learned, almost everything that I learned, I
learned from him. My grandfather was very very hard on
my brother, and I didn't understand why until my grandmother
said Barney, why are you so hard on Spanky? That's

(06:40):
what Nikole we call him. He said, Mary, everything that
little one is going to learn, he's going to learn
it from him. It's his job because we're not going
to be around Mary Long. It's his job to teach
him how to build man. It's his job to teach
him right from wrong. He's gonna follow everything that he

(07:01):
does because that's what he sees all the time. For
my brother to do what he's done with no guidance,
with no instruction manual, to get to where he got,
to get me to where I got. You guys have

(07:38):
heard me say, the only man I've ever wanted to
be was him. He was my hero, He was my
role model. He taught me to shoot a basketball, he
taught me to throw a football. He taught me how
to catch, He taught me how to tie my shoes.

(08:00):
The man that's sitting before you today, I watched everything
that he did. I hum on everything that he said.
And then you heard me tell the story that he's
only three years older than I, but he's more like
my father. My sister's eight years older. She's more like
my mother. Because everything that they did was what a

(08:21):
mother and a father would do for a child. I'm
not here. I'm not the man that I am. I'm
not the person that I am. I'm not the friend
that I am. I'm not the father that I am.
Without seeing how he did things, he's we're brothers, were
a lot alike, but we're very different because I've always

(08:41):
had to fight. Everything came so easy to him. I
was so small. They called me pee wee, and I
just I could never understood. I never understood why I
couldn't beat him in certain things. He was always prouder
for things that I did as opposed to what he accomplished.

(09:02):
He was much more happy when I got drafted than
he did. He wouldn't first pick in the seventh round.
I mean first, the seventh pick in the first round.
I went to seventh round, one ninety two. He was
so excited. He would just call and say, I mean,
he just and y'all don't know what this moment means,

(09:25):
not just to our family. My mom is gonna be
extremely excited. I'm extremely excited. A high school coach who
coached my mom, who also coached he and I. But
this is and God heard prayers. I didn't even know
he was listening to. They'll build time that you and

(09:56):
I have a conversation. We'll talk mapping everything out, guess
that you want to bring, and the party and the
entertainment that you want. Bro, I've said it before. Look,
you have every die take myself out of the hall

(10:21):
just for you to be in. I measured my life
in summers. I don't say years, say I figure I
pretty got hopefully pretty healthy. I got twenty twenty summers left.

(10:43):
I'm good now, I'm good. I love you. There's only
two men guys I've ever told that I love my son,

(11:07):
my brother. It was so hard to keep this a secret,
stephen A. When I got the call and I had
to get him to come to my home, and they
even wanted to go do it in Glenville, I said, Bro,

(11:30):
I hadn't been to Glenville in thirteen years. He gonna
know something up if I tell him to come down
there so I can lure him to the house. Still,
he hadn't seen me in my home in six years.
So if I call and I tell him to meet
me somewhere, he's gonna think something wrong. Like Bro, Bro,
He's like, what's what's up? I said, man, this come

(11:51):
to the house and like, I'm in town. He's like,
you all right? I said, yeah, Bro, I'm good, I'm good.
I just you know I'm in town and you know
you close by. And he had surgery as I he
had a detached retina. He had a bubble place that
hiss I almost lost the vision in design about three
months ago and said he had some some blurred vision

(12:12):
and design and he went to the doctor and the
doctor said, we gotta to perform surgery. They couldn't perform
surgery that afternoon because he had already eaten, so they
got him in the next morning. So that's what we've
been dealing with. Had a lot on my plate dealing
with that because I worry. I'm the worrior of the family.
I think that's my responsibility. Now. Bro, I'm so happy.

(12:34):
I'm so proud of you. I'm getting there.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
It's it's hard to explain because you don't want to
put your emotions on someone else, but you you know,
And I think that the easiest way to explain it
is we've all experienced. I think Christmas, you have a
list in your whole that you could get two, three,

(13:01):
or four of those things.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I never wished for this.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
I never wanted this, and I said it tonight out
loud for the first time, and the reporter was like,
what do you mean you never I'm like, man, you
don't understand.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I only wanted to do one thing, and that was play.
I didn't want to be an all pro or a
pro bowler or all that up. I just wanted to play.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
And I got to do that for seven years.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I'm good.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
And then the Hall of Fame comes around and they're like, okay,
you've been out five years. You know Sterling Sharp is
on the list of twenty five. You know it would
be he would be a shoe in if he played longer.
But they never talked about what I did. And I
was like, if it wasn't enough, wasn't enough.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
I slept real good before I found out I was
going to the Hall of Fame, and I slept good
after finding out. But I really didn't have any any
aspirations on wanning this. It is a tremendous honor. I
know exactly what that means. I went through it with him,
and that was the greatest athletic achievement of my entire

(14:21):
life was going on that journey with him through the.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Me going in will not exceed when he went in.
It won't do it. It's not gonna come close. That
was probably the happiest I'd ever been because I knew
where he came from, going to Savannah State a college.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
He said he wasn't gonna go.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
That's one of the times that I told him what
he was going to do, so.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
I knew how hard he fought.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
And I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities for
us in sports to where I know what stephen A's
journey was like to get here. I know what Chad's
journey was like to get here. I know what his
journey was like, and all my prayers were for him.
I'll embarrass him about one story. I paid all his

(15:13):
bills he was in the NFL. I paid all his
bills until my daughter was born, because that was that
was mine, because I wanted him to always have better than.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
What I had.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
He had a Mercedes before I did. He couldn't afford one,
but he was driving one, and then he wanted to
go to a beach party and he drove my new
one and wrecked it.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Junkyard, junk Yard. That's what he said, I junk yard,
You cab dog. Wait what?

Speaker 6 (15:51):
So so you have to understand that that we are.
We're brothers, but we are We're one side of the
same coin. We'll say different things differently, and we'll do
different things differently, but we think alike.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
And God is truly you know.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
And I will tell you this story, and I'm gonna
be quiet. A guy said to me, if you go
into Hall of Fame, are you gonna do like everybody else?
And thank God? Because you think God wanted you to
be a Hall of Famer. If there is a God,

(16:31):
And I said this, I said, my own brother stood
up and said, if you would have played longer, there's
no question in my mind that we would be the
first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That

(16:54):
was in twenty eleven. Since he said that, I have
not had one catch, I have not gained one yard,
and I have not scored one touchdown. And we are
the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

(17:18):
So you tell me, if there's a God, and I
should give him some glory. And so you know for
me that that is what I'm probably most proud of
is everybody used to say, you know, Shannon, stopped trying
to be like him. You can't be like him, Shannon.
Stop trying to do what he does, Shannon, you can't

(17:40):
do what he does, shann Stop trying to imitate him, Shannon,
be your own man, Shannon. I am so happy to
say he didn't follow me around.

Speaker 10 (17:50):
I followed him.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Class of twenty twenty five Pro Football Hall of Famer
Sterley Shark.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Jim Jones is joining us as O Joe was breaking him. Man, Jim,
how you doing, bro?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
How you feel him up?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Brother? You good? Yeah? I'm good man. Life is good,
God is good.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I can't complain.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, So talk to us a little about this music thing.
You've been in this thing for a minute now, So
talk about Jim Jones of twenty years ago Jim Jones today.
Have you noticed anything different in the music industry? Have
you noticed have you tried to do anything different with
your sound to keep up with the way the industry
is headed?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, the industry.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
The industry has changed tremendously from when I started. There
wasn't no social media. For one. When I started in
two thousand and three with my first first deal and
even before that when Cam started with his deal. So
these kids got a bit of advantage when it comes
to marketing the promom that we didn't have. They had
access to a lot of information that we didn't have.

(19:20):
A lot of people say it works against us, but
I think it works for us. And watching the way
that these kids work in the present day and things
like that, I've learned a lot from them, from how
they carry their music, from how they sell their musics,
and from how they market and promote their music. Us
as being here for so too long, for so long
we've seen we tend to get caught up in our
dinosaur ways from yesterday how they carry artists, but that's

(19:43):
not the way they carry artists today. So they are
platinum artists that have their nose up because they're big
platinum artists, but that don't count today's society. They don't
carry it the same way. So what I've chosen to
do was always chose to try to reinvent.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Myself, but not to the point where I'm chasing.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
But there's a medium not reached because I always want
to teach these kids, but I always want to learn
something also, So you know that and and and what
reinvent yourself. You got to be willing to be disciplined
to know what direction you want to go. And when
it comes to reinventing yourself, you know, I mean, one
of the things I credit do is the g The
gim is one of the biggest attributes to me being
able to do. Uh, sustain this long in the game.
Sustainability is is a long fun Jim.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Let me ask you this. And I see this a
lot and a lot, especially in music, and I see
this with and television and entertainment actress actresses. Is like, man,
every record that he put out, it sounds the same. Okay,
he does something different. Man, he don't sound like the
old guy. He don't sound like he used to Okay.

(20:46):
Uh an actor they try actor actress, they try to
do a different role than what we're used to see him. Man,
I like when he did that, ill like, I all
like this new. So you want the guy to change,
You want the individual to change and give you something different.
And when they give you something different, you say that
don't sound the same and you don't like it. So
how does someone win? Now the person that that I

(21:06):
have the utmost respect for what she's been able to do.
Is Beyonce beyond say is as big as you can
get in one genre, and she says, you know what,
I would go over here and I'm gonna do this.
I mean, it takes it takes some guts, jim to
do that. I mean, she like Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
With Michael Jordan left the NBA, he went to the
to the MBL, the Major LEA and MLBA. He had
to have a lot of guts, you know what I mean,
Like saying with like d On Dion when he was
playing football and playing baseball and being successful at the
same time in both in both of them sports. I mean,
and that takes a lot of heart. I I haven't
seen anybody else do that successfully the way that Beyonce

(21:47):
has has done it. So I took my hat to
the barriers that she continued to break inside of this
music industry.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Yeah, hey, Jimmy, what do you think right now about
the state of the state of hip hop where it
is right now? How do you feel about it, especially
with the young dudes with the sound now? Obviously, I
think that when it comes to to rap in general,
hip hop in general, I.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Think the sound changes every ten years.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
What do you how do you about this era of
hip hop right now that we're in Do you do
you like it? Have you embraced it?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
What I mean, my in my opinion doesn't matter because
I had my time where we were dictating the sound
of music and we had a ball and there were
older people that was hating on the time that we
had and things like that. I encourage these youngsters to
be as creative as they can, as long as it's
connecting with their crowded and people are singing your ship

(22:36):
and they're going to your to your shows.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And who am I to say.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I don't like that music when they're out here's thinking ship?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
You know what I mean? You did?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So it's like you gotta find you got to stay
true to yourself, but find your rhythm in the mix
of what's going on. You're gonna be lost in the soul.
So you're gonna be looking like an old dude.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
You're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Looking like it has been.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
You're gonna you.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Understand, I'm not into that. My energy ain't flop that
you heard. If I'm gonna be a contender in this game,
I'm gonna play at the time at the top of
my ability to play. You know what I mean. I'm
not gonna take no shortcuts of nothing. A minute in
a minute, I mean, I gotta contend with the younger boys.
I gotta contend with the older boys. That means I
gotta come through stepping. They only respect violence, and not
to say violence, but you know what I mean, Like
they got to see that shit you dig while I'm

(23:15):
in the game, I'm gonna show them that shit. Like
people don't get a twisted like I'm I'm a man
of many, many different things. Like my rapper hat is one.
It's one hat to that with. But if I'm rapping
and I'm in it, I'm min it.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'm going against all ours and what I gotta do
to maintain be a contender in this game to keep
feeding my family and making the money that make off this.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I think people get that twisted when they see me
talking and pop up my shit and shit like that.
That's just one character that I gotta put out there
for you all to eat up. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
But I'm.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Hold on, I got I'm gonna ask you.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
I just I saw some I saw some comments and
saw a clip about you know and you and Push.
I'm not sure if you and Push you know got
these type of beeple whatever. I just saw something about you.
You talk about the you didn't like, you didn't like
the album to like the song?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
You know what? He raps about it.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't got no beef with it.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't got no beef for nobody.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay, okay. Half of it is my opinion.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Half of it is me bending the algorithm. Half of
that is feeding into people's simplicity, because the social media
is for that, you.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And like I said, I'm a rapper in this game.
It comes with the territory. You gotta be very competitive.
It's a very competitive sport and you better have some
thick skin.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I ain't say nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I want to hurt nobody and do nothing nobody. Everything
I've been talking.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
About, that's strictly about the art of world.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
When it comes to the music nowadays, now, maybe ten
years ago, fifteen years ago, it would have been a
different outcome of what I was, you know what I mean,
When I was, I'm not on that, and I think
a lot of that gets twisted and with the Jim
Jones of today and things like that. I ain't got
a ponzzle nobody and I ain't got no optional nothing.
And you know, it's part of me that I've been

(24:57):
working on every day. So tell me sometimes I I
talked way too fast than I should hear.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But it's part of the game. I don't care you
hate it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I'm gonna turn it into into a victory for me.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yes, check this out, Jim. It seems to me since
this past summer what passed last summer when Kendrick had
that disk, it seemed like now people are just like,
you know, hey, we saw the success that Kendrick had,
got five Grammys, he hosted you know, halftime, showed the
Super Bowl, blah blah blah. We see a lot more

(25:29):
dissing going on if that what if that were we're
headed now? Dan, and where you've been at You don't
remember you've seen the success that Tupac had it. Yeah,
look you see the success.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
What about what about Jacob?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, this is a competitive sport. The rap is built
on that.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So Kendrick and Drake having what they have was no
surprise through the rap industry. I mean people look at
it as something but This is what the art of
rap is about.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's a very.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Competitive sport and you got to be ready to be
on tip of your game when it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
So if you put something out, you.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Gotta be ready for the same energy to come back
at you. That's what rap is about. Some people don't
go down the lane. Some people go around that lane.
Some people go right through it. I'm one of the
people that go right through it. Wouldn't lose a draw.
I keep the same face.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
But hold on, hold on, Jim, Jim, bro, I'm not
looking for you to come at me. I put you on.
Remember I used to have you on my I used
to have I used to use the tour with me,
used to open up for me. Bro. You know you
remember that right well? That nobody what booking you. You
remember that, Jim.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
You heard this song, You heard this You heard the same.
When rivals, I mean idols, become your rivals. That's what
the rap game is about. Did Alan Olison hesitate to
shake Michael Jordan up when he got in an NBA
You know, okay, because he was on another team.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I might not stop the love he had for Mike.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
But while we're on this battlefield, my team gotta win,
and I wouldn't to kill anybody that's in front of
me for my team to win. And that was Alan
Olson's attitude. You gotta understand what happens when you come
in to this game. Your idols become your rifles. There's
no passes. When we're on the other team, we meet
you at the party, we can laugh, pop champagne. But
right now while we're on this field, while we're on
this court, Oh, I'm coming to scrape shit.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Now, we can't pop no more champagne. You got people
laughing at me. And guess what they playing in the
football game. They played at the basketball game, not like us.
Oh no, we can't pop no champagne after that. Hey,
as a matter of fact, I'm gonna close the club down.
Hey if he ain't if he coming, I ain't coming.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, but I just told you that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's competitive the sport.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Now, you gotta it got different levels to it and
things like that. But that's what this was built on.
You heard. So it's it's it's sad that they gotta
go to such lamps when it comes to artists getting
at each other. When it comes to the music, But
which once you project, is what you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
So this have that same energy you.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Put out there, because somebody coming right back at you
with that same energy sooner or later.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, let me ask you. Let me ask you one
more question, don't Joe? So are we gonna get some
new music? Because we saw you and Cam kind of
going back and forth and the Dip said coming back,
y'all go take up together and give us some new music.
Yes or no? Uh?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Right now worried about myself, Dipset has always Dip said,
the birds still fly. I've been having a bird on
my back for the past fifteen.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Years when nobody was worried about you think.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So that's gonna go. But right now I gotta worry
about me. I gotta worry about my endeavors. I gotta
worry about my business. I gotta worry about my family.
You dig I've done a lot for diplomats where it
didn't do me nothing at the time. But right now,
where I'm at in my life, what works for me,
and what I'm worried about is myself. I can't tell
you what the future may hold or what the future
may bring.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm not taking nothing off the table, you think.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
But right now it's about Jim Jones, And yeah, I
am a diplomat owner.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Bet go ahead, Joe, I like that.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Listen, and you took the question I was finna ask,
and I think I think you know what history repeace itself, Jimmy,
History ors repeat itself, and most of the time when
history repeat itself, it comes back even big and better.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I think Diplomats is gonna have her. They're gonna have reunion.
I think y'all boys going reunite.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
And despite your differences, despite whatever situation y'all might have,
you know, all that can be fit.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Behind closed doors.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
That ain't nothing but a conversation that just got to
be had, especially making that.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Money or check You're heard.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Like a nice check always calms things down. You heard,
Oh way, a stupid man, you heard you did.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
But I understand that.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
But right now, where I'm at, until that happens, until
some business get put on the table with advantage just
for all sides. Right now, I got to worry about
what Capo was doing. And it's been working for me
that way, you know. I mean, I've been staying out
of everybody's way a little bit, you know, what I mean,
trying to day every.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Day, work on me every day. I get better than
things like that.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
You think I'm I'm unapologetic. You dig and I don't
have no regrets, you know me, but I do. I
do work on myself every day, you know. I mean,
I'm not a perfect man. You did, but I'm the
perfect example of what could happen if you stay damn
till you come on. And that's what I did plenty
of times.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I got Jim when like, look you won the OJ's rap.
I mean, hip hop is fifty years of age. You've
been in this thing two decades. I ain't fifty. I'm
forty eight. I said hip hop fifty.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I thought you were shooting it at me my head,
yah nah.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Nah, hip hop is fifty. But you've been in this
thing for two decades, right.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I've been in this thing, so yes, it's a little
bit more than that. Since nineteen ninety seven camera and
got his first deal.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
So I'm like twenty.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Eight years into two one hundred percent and I've been signed.
I've been signed my first deals two decades ago.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
How do you determine who you how do you determine
who you work with? Now? When you want to work
with the young artists. Uh, how do you go about that?
How do you like man? I kind of like him.
I think we can make some beautiful music together.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean, I hold no pressure.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I'm looking for great music and.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I'm looking looking for great aesthetic music to get into
everything in today's world when it comes to music, if
you've got a lifestyle that you could sell these kids
could buy into, then that's just as good as having
a great hit song and things like that. And that's
how it worked for me. So it's a combinations of
things that I look for to work with the arts,
so to do business with the artists, but as far
as doing music with the artists and.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Things like that, I'm just saying. I'm a love of music.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So if I hear a record that I and I
think it's dope and I think the artist is dope, reach.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Out to them. How do you stay motivated? We lost him? Yeah,
I think we lost him. Oh damn. That was that
was good.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I was enjoying that. Bron Hey, I'm thinking. I'm thinking.
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about rapping man, shoot man.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
What do you think, oh Joe, what you're gonna rap?
About now with yo for me?

Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, Hey, I mean I'm just saying I'm gonna rap
about things that that I've experienced in life. You know
that that's that's the that's the best thing to wrap
about it. That's the most rappers. They rap about the
things that they've experienced. You know, the ups and downs,
the goods, the bads, you.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Know that, the ws, the l's. I think I could
put it together, you think, so, oh there we go.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Are you back? Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, like you look like a French painter with a
little bit biggie from Brooklyn with that on, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just can't. I just came
from the South of France.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
I was down there for six days, so I just
got back yesterday.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's the vibe.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
You're still I'm still on my on my swave.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
You're still spilling that ship. I get it, I get it.
I get at at this junk sh of the game.
What keeps you motivated? What gifts Jim makes Jim jump
out of bed, pressed down hard as he can and
press go. What what keeps you going?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I will say the money, But I've been making money
for a long time, and the opportunity to take care
of my family. I've been doing that for a long time.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
At this point, I've been doing a lot, so I've
been My.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Mission has been to give back more than I took.
But I was able to take a lot and I'm
still taking. So that's where I'm not in life right now.
You know what I mean, the more blessed people the
marrow get blessed, and it's just a testament of hard
work and being resilient and and and being in real
with yourself.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I mean, can I ask you a question, Jim, you
smoke right? Yeah? Were you smoking when you said you
better than Noads?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I might have been a little bit well as far
as let's let's get this right, I'm way more influencial
than ours. And I don't care what nobody say. I
know I made it.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I know I made a little boober when.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
He talk about the sales and all this type of ship.
I don't feel like get into that rhetoric about where
I started away. But listen, Nas was nice when I
was in high school. When I was in tenth grade,
Knas came out. Nas was dope. We appreciate him. He
had a little bit of run. But Nas always came
up second to Jay and DM Mexican all these other
people like.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
That.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
He never had that type.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Of influence on us except for his first album.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I already told you.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I used to want to dress like nas because he
had a lot of fresh clothes that the hustlers used
to wear and ship and we used to see him
on TV. He had one of the illis albums of
all time, and then in high school when he had
the Barbecue.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
And ship like that.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So I'm a real fan of Nons, but he kind
of lost me after Bell the movie Belly and Ship
like that.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like I don't go ahead on that gym.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm trying to tell you, I'm being hot you when
you asked me, I'm being a fan. I'm telling you
from the movie Belly was fired. But after that he
kind of lost me. I don't think I think we
was way too much into the game.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Remember how this goes? That's not you ever heard of
a coofie list?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, yo, go back into your history and find out
what happened between us and him. You didn't and I'm
not trying to repeat history, but don't play with us
when it comes to that. Bro, We already when when
when when when wild on them boys, you hurd, We're
the ones that went wild on them boys and people
out here acting like I said, I'm gonna bring the
coofie list back.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I just told you I'm gonna change man, Stephan Law.
Can you do Look, I'm put it, bro, you've been
at this thing, but lyrically I would be I'm gonna
keep it a stack with you.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Look how you dressed. You don't even be in the
same place as I'd be in.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
And the things that the listen you can't. You can't
that Who told you that? Bro? A bunch of real
You got a.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Bunch of forty and fifty year olds in their panties
because I said I'm better.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Than don't matter from the diplomats.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
But you got.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Hold on, Jimmy. You want to go back. I really
mean it, I really mean it started.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
If you could go back to what the history, bro.
But don't do that, Bro.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I got a question, I got a question.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Stick up for itself and meet me in a booth
for something. If we want to do something.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Historically, you don't say he don't do that. No more,
no say he don't because he got a hundred million
dollars he's a very wealthy man.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
You heard he's a very small business man.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Got hold on, hold on, Jimmy, hold on, I got
a question.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
Hold on, hold on, Hold hold on, jim hold on,
hold on, I got a question, Jimmy. And anything that
you do, right, I've heard you preach it all all
the time. Right when you was playing football. You your
first thing, you always say, ain't nobody here better than me? Ah,
tell me again, you know, told me that you take.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Anybody in this world.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
But you know, Jimmy, stay with me real quick, stay
with me now. Don't stay with me now. But I'm
just saying that mentality.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Isn't that how you suppose the field? Isn't that how
you suppose the field?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
You know? So let me ask your question. When you
was on the field, you thought you was better than
t O and Moss. Hell, yeah, what you mean? You
done came on here and say I ain't better than Moss,
I'm not better than t O, I'm not better than Rice.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
You said, I'm not playing the game no more.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
But you wouldn't you when you were playing the difference?
Jim you talking, you need to get with the lock.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Still I'm still playing. I'm still playing at the high level. Coup,
I'm still playing, Get Jada, I'm rapping. I'm rapping at
a high level. You better check my stats, bro. I
want I will run circles around Nas rapping right I
will run circles around Nas rapping right now, right now.

(36:58):
I want satting around Nas right now, rapping. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
He past it, he put it down.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I will run laps around Nas rapping right now, Bro.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jim, are you right now?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I'm still in it. I'm still in it. Cam
was smoking his boots. I wasn't rapping when he was wrapping.
But Cam really got at him. You remember, I really
mean it. We've been getting at them boys. But it's
not about that right now, twenty twenty five, I'm in
the game, still rapping at a high capacity. If Nas
wants to smoke, come in a booth, I will wrap.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
He enjoyed that fifty million of me, so that leave
me alone. While I'm on the field. You're laughing with him.
I'm on the field.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I'm picking on whoever, whoever, whatever, I don't cheer. I'm
on the field, and guess who's the most.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Guess who on the field. Guess who person you need
to call like Kendrick, you need to call somebody that's
still in it. He ain't in it.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Why can't you get a cant in my age?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I wasn't the day in my error, I ain't.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Got that's not my error.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
He retired. Have you ever heard of retirement? Well, that's
my error.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
So I'm calling all of them out. I don't care
if you retired or not, deal with it. If not,
Jack hit me in the booth, and I'm just telling.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
You, let's get let's just get. Let's get this right.
I'm not mad. It's about the sportsmanship of the game.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
People know I am a very aggressive person, and that
seems to get misconstrued when I'm talking my ship. I'm
just talking my ship. You let me talk my ship
because I am on the field. If anybody got a
problem with that, they could meet me on the field.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
That is the booth. Anybody from that error.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Anybody, anybody from that error, anybody.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well you and Jada in the same era, anybody from
that era.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Don't you ain't seeing to stop and saying anybody from
that error. I'm not scared of nobody.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You speed right now.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Anybody from them the daily in the anybody want to
work out, tell him come to the field.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
We got.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
This is the perfect opportunity. You're not even paying attention.
Your antennas ain't up right now. Listen, he said, anybody
from his error, anybody he in the field right ship.
We can have our own verses on that, our own
nightcap versus.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I got, I got.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's deeper than the verses. It's about who making music,
me in the booth. Put the record up, give us
a time to do the record by, Give us a subject,
and let's.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
See who want to smoke who on the booth? Come on.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's about the if. It's about the craftsmanship. Fuck the numbers,
Fuck the records. You heard, because we both got records
that can smash.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
We both got nigga. Meet me in the booth.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Fuck all that old school ship we're playing on winkings
from twenty years ago. I am not nostalgic, nigga. It's
twenty twenty five. Don't want to smoke. Meet me in
the booth. Set it up, and we could do it
for money. Labels to pay for it.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
How y'all want to do it. We can make a
spectacle out here. You have got it, got rtsman. You heard, Yeah,
I got nawds? What I got? God? Well get him in.
I got I got Jay. Listen to If you.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
You'll get anybody in the booth, I will pull up
by myself on my Yes. Why would you want you?
When you get them that mic? They can't help you.
Start spending who you're gonna get to help you?

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Hey, Oh you're not seeing the vision?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
See shirt the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You gotta start buying bagg of your clothes.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Big fellow man, you talk about you in the gym.
Now you want to get me. You want to want
me to see me in the GM. We can do
to talk that is in the gym.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
We're talking about what you're talking about, working out.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Of what you're talking about working out a strength, work
however you want to do it.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
We're talking about that you got money, and we're talking
about what your money where your mom feels you got
So you're talking about what you're talking.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
About working out? I burn you.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
You're talking about working out of strength because you're probably
can out more than you're probably talking whatever.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But if you're talking.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
About working out, you're talking about working out.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I burn you. This ain't what you do. This ain't
what you want. You're doing when you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You don't want to see it is check the stack.
You don't better go to my I g set it up,
Set it up.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I'd be the hey.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Lord.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
You guys like you, you ain't you want to start on.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
You don't want to do the league? You want what
you want to start on? You do?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
You just ja you want to put a training in
petition you knock out, do not shoe, Do.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Not sho come there landing tomorrow and give you this shoe.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Bro, you're too small, bro talking, you talking a lot?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
What you want to do? I want to do it?
You hey, stick to what you do? You good on.
I won't get away from you, but you save some money.
Do you want to do it or not?

Speaker 7 (42:25):
I want to compete to what we doing because.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You start with you can't you Let me tell you.
Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you
one story. Let me tell you one story. I'm gonna
tell you one story. How I met Antonio Brown. My
son said, you know Antonio Brown live up the block
because I live on the beach and ship like that.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm like, who is that? He like? He showed it
to my d m dum. He's like, oh yeah, your
son play football, Come get this workout.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So I get on the beach Cam Newton and like
a few other NFL player, ain't gona see nobody name.
He made two of them go home because I was
I finished the workout before they finished the workout. Bro,
do not play with me. I'm a beast, nigga.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I will I will, Shannon, I will go crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Over what do you want to do? Work You want
to work out or you want to do strong ship?
You heard because obviously you can lift long than me,
but you can't work out with me. Bro, I'm a beast. Nigga,
You're a beast.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, you can't do one muscle up nothing. You can't
do nothing with me. Bro, Dude, you weigh one hundred
and fifty pounds. You should do muscle up. I weigh
I weigh one ninety five. Hey, I weigh one.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Jim, you go to my instagram. Go to my instagram
right now. Work out every day?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I post it. I don't post it. Don't play with
I work out the secret. I post it every day. Nigga,
what's up? I don't post, I don't post nothing. What
day you want me to come to Atlanta. I ain't
even in that, ma'am. I'm gonna come see you won't
come to New York. And we got gyms. When you
want to do it, you want to right on the show,
You want to.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Do a live on the show, thirty minute way out.
I don't do anything for show, just me and you,
and I just want want you to know that I
can't you doing what you do.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
You see what I'm saying? Old show?

Speaker 11 (44:04):
Hey, you about show I went into. I want into
the show gets the dough? You never heard that? Yeah, no,
do no show? What'll stop you scared? You can do
it a pay per view.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I know you've got a lot on the line because
you're a professional football player. A football player, I retire when.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I retired. Want look like picked up our older rappers.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Hey, when we gonna compete?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Because I ain't no being nothing but on the microphone
when it comes to the gym, that ain't happening. What
you want to what you want to do, what you
want to do? Look here, you have the rap game.
That's you, that's your era, that's your that's your era,
that's what your era of expertise. Yeah, I n ain't
I a fin to waste my time dealing with you. Man,

(44:57):
say you ain't on this level, you would have run sprints.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
You want to warn routes what you want to do?
Or you just want to stay in the gym and
I got a damn sing and I still give you work.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Or you want to stay in the gym, I'm staying
in the new gym. I don't want to do nothing
of that iron. I don't move nothing but iron. Yeah, yeah,
what I thought.

Speaker 12 (45:17):
We can check my resume. It's expensive and thirty minutes.
You will not You won't last thirty minutes with me.
You want me to follow you, or you want to
follow me how you want to do it?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You can't follow me. I'm a record and you can't
do nothing. You can't bitch, you can't squad, you can't.
You can't do nothing. You want to do body weight movements.
I don't do body weight movement. You better go check
my gram.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I do sir and squats, I do regular squads, we
do deadalus, we do everything.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Are you out your mind? He that little with you?
One hundred and ninety five pounds man? What I look
like going to because one hundred ninety five pound man
in the gym.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Not wasting my time, yo, take that like it well,
I'm challenging skipping out book. Where I'm from, a challenge
is a challenge.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Nigga, regardless to size, right.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
We fight all bullies where I'm from. That's a nigga,
no man or nothing, nigga. You heard you as und
you ask what I look? What I look like taking
over Greenland? They didn't got no damn military.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
What you like? What you're looking at? Bro, bring your
mouth and your body to haul them.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Let's go to the gym.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Let's go to the gym he wanted to do. That
was one of these rappers.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You thought I was one of these out of shape rappers.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
No, I'm in super shape. I'm not in I'm in
super shape. Hey, Apple is a shape pair egg, I'm.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Not doing shape. I'm in super shape. And you can
ask everybody who sometimes you see what you did? Why
do you think I was on the cover of Man's
House for my look? Because I get busy?

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Oh Lord, have mercy when we going in the gym,
because I want I want this work.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm busy. I want this work. You now you busy?
You bring it up. Now you're busy. Richmond up. You
you owe your copaid. First of all, you chat, you
want Nads, you want Jada, you want everybody, and then
you try to come.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
You said that, you said that, you start bringing up.
Don't try no flic shit. I said, I don't care
who it is. I will go up against Jim Jones.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
He's a better rapper than Nods. Jim Jones can defends
himself against NODS comparison. Jim Jones rejects NODS comparison. Check
my record, Jim Jones arguing he's bigger than Nods.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
You said that you sound like a little hot you
over there, hot in your feelings because me and everybody
else pretty fiction.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Your glasses a little bit, Your glasses little crooked.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
My glasses are fine. You can talk about I take
him off. You can see, and I still can see.
You can't if with nods, I put them back on.
You still if with nods.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Come on sixteen since sixteen.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Bars and nods.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Right now, Sing your favorite NAS record.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Right now, the man busy, sing it. Sing it. Sing
your favorite NOS record. First of all, uh, once you
get to a certain NOD listen, sing your favorite NODS record. Jim,
I bet you know your favorite jay Z record.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Hey, I bet you can say your favorite what Jim
sing your Okay, you done flew high, you.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Came back down.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Now sing your favorite NAS record.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Bro, since you, since you, since you're going crazy for
I can sing.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
More, nozen, I can sing more NODS records than.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
You right now. I can sing I could sing more
NODS records than you right now. So you you are tapping,
You are tapping. That's what you do, bro, you are
I'm a bigger NADS fan than you are. You are
first of all, person, say fifty seven, I don't be
singing no rap. I ain't be singing no rap. And
see what I'm saying. He don't even know about rap.
He just doing this for the views, to get Jim

(49:08):
Jones on it, to get him hot. I understand, but
you don't getting him hot. You know you know you
better check the podcast. No not now now, you better
talk sixteen Hey, singing this biggest podcast you ever been on? One, Nodge,
mister bigg.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Podcast you've ever been on this one?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Hold on, Hold on than your feelings. When you get big,
you get it back. This is what I do.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Nod get in back of the club, Sha, jennakin't get
in by the club you number yet, Broka.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Just a little young.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Topic would be bro off topic.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You're dealing with the wrong one. Bro right here, Bro,
I don't care nothing about nothing. That's just you got
to say. Bro, you must no we were hear them.
You can't out your alone.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
You might get out round me, but you get out
talk me.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Don't nobody want to go to club Shay say, Nobody
want to buy no VP tickets to that ship.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Nobody rushing it? Go to that ship?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Bigger, you gotta go to you in You got to
me the Paul cat a tremendous you sho do your thing.
Don't get it twisted. Bro, I don't see nothing about
no fucking podcast.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
We're supposed to.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
Be talking about the music and love and embracing one
another and kol sure and I haven't.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
We ain't gonna have to come out here and disrespect
Nods and Jada Now they're gonna happen on here. Now?
What were we? Why you keep putting Jada into this?
Why you keep putting Jay into this? What's wrong with you? Well,
that's wrong with you, bro.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
You take a nigga to get caught like, nah, come out.
They call us all like, why are you trying to
put Jada into this? Bro?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Not get it, Bro, It's all good. It's all love.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Bro, all right, you dialed about this here, tell us
all love. When you got coming out the next movie?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
What you said? Yeah, you got a movie coming out
right coming after after Church Steps, A lovely movie.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I got a bunch of comedians in there, a bunch
of influences that we all know. I'm excited to put
that movie out covers out.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Later on this summer.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
It's a uh, it's an add added onto my album.
Had a bunch of dobactors in there too, So I'm
looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
So are you Are you more proud? Are you most
proud of the movie you have coming out or the
new music you got coming out or the equal.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I'm more proud of the business that I've been doing lately. Okay, See,
you must think my life revolves around music when my
life is music is just probably the smallest fraction of
my life, even though it fuse a lot of the
things that comes to my life because of music. But
I'm a great businessman all around the board, you know
what I mean. So you got to learn a lot
of a lot more about me, and I'm a philanthropist.

(51:48):
I wanted one of the few people that do give
back shirts off my backs and things like that. All
alrhetoric about the wrap and back and forth. It's cool
and shit like that, but deep down inside, I'm away.
I'm away ill man and what we over here going
off about and things like that.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Like, my biggest.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Attribute is my giving back and I'm gonna always do
that no matter what. I don't want people to get it,
get it misconstrued, you know. I love to give back.
That's what my whole mission is about. And the more
I go viral with, the more and more you explore page,
the more opportunities come to me, the more I could
give back. All this comes down to a dollars where
people don't understand.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
This algorithm is a game that I had to learn
and understand because.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I was uh previously, I probably would crash out so
many things that I see on the Internet or so
many ways that people are talking about me. I had
to learn how to reverse it and use these things.
It's fuel for me to keep going and things like that,
and that's just what I've been doing. I got to
a point where I got good at it, so I
know how to use it in my favor. And it's
a beautiful thing. It could go against you, it could
go for you. But one thing, if you're a small person,

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that's gonna work. It's gonna work in your favor, you
know what I mean. So I use all my opportunities
to turn it into a dollar. And anytime that I've
seen heard, they're gonna go want to want to know
about me? Extra streme is an extra dollar. I don't
care about what nobody said. I name mindset all facets.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I mean, that's what I wanted to ask you. I
wanted to ask when did when was it always a
part of your like if you ever made it that
you were going to give back, because like you said,
you do you do give back to the younger generation,
you do give back to your community. When did that
thought that thought process? How did how did that come about?
Jim Jones? Like, you know what, if I get to

(53:21):
a certain level and I'm able to help and I'm
able to get give back, That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
You know, we're from an older era, a godfare era,
So you know I watched my family open their house
as strangers sometimes and things like that. They was always
a given and not to mention when I'm coming outside
and watching the hustles doing for the community, the ones
that were successful, the ones that always came back, bus rides, sneakers,
headcuts and all that. So I just chose to carry
on tradition and me be in a position of success

(53:48):
in my life only helped me to do a little
bit more than what I've seen coming up.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
That's what's up. That's good, bro. Hey, I'm gonna pull
up in Harlem. Come on, I'm waiting for you, man.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I love.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I love you.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
He Hey, Jimmy, Hey, if you if you put up
for Haller, we gotta go to Ricardos.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
No, we gotta go to Ricardos. Hey, Shanon, you know
I love you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I love people. I love people that I could go
back and forth with.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And people don't take you heard because a lot of
a lot of people look at this and might take
offense to it.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
But we are but we don't care.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
We and we know who we are. You dig like
for sure, we can never let you know. Electronics get
in between realism. We know what set state care and
we know what we're doing you dig and I appreciate
you for that because a lot of people would have
took everything to a fence and the like. But we
all who we are, Man, I appreciate this opportunity. Man,
you do have a great show. I cannot take that

(54:45):
from you. Appreciate you coming come on, Okay, could bring
him the Harlem.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Let's work out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
He not.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
He not as strong as he say though, he's not
as strong.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Just talking, you know, yeah, you see Hey, hey Jim,
real talk though. Man, I appreciate you coming on with
you and I. We really appreciate it. We appreciate the
time and well I've never you know, hey, we have
a great time going back and forth talking about nods
and jade and you. But bro, you stand to test
the time. You do what you do. You're great at

(55:19):
what you do, and I appreciate you taking time out
of your business schedule to night to come on with
OO and I and talk about all things. So we
I had a great time. I don't know about but
I had a great time.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Listen, listen, this is this was iconic tonight.

Speaker 7 (55:33):
This was iconic anytime you got this is the funny
thing about it is people not gonna understand what y'all you're.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Gonna be treating the Jim. You know, we're gonna be
a starry in the morning. People not gonna understand that
this is what we do.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
This is this is what we do.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
This is this is how we act, just how we
are going to get together like people. This is it, Like, yeah, hey,
I love man.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I appreciate Hey.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
This wasn't nothing but a spades game without the cars.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
That's all hundred percent our whole attitude of spades over.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
All the time, all the time. Hey. Thing was if
I was in the hall and he's like, Okay, let's
go find the gym right now, we'll find out what
we what we bout one hundred percent, one hundred percent
we stand on that. Hey, but Jim, hey man, best
of luck on the album, best of luck on the movie. Man, Hey,
when you get some free time, stop back bye bye.

(56:23):
I will. I appreciate that, bro, all.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
Love you remember you may Hey, Oh Joe, that was
that was That was awesome?

Speaker 3 (56:35):
That that was? That was Oh Joe. Now you know, hey,
everybody gonna say, man, Jim, Joe the shot the shop
with going maybe hey, no.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
They don't understand it.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
Any anybody that say that they don't play spades, they
don't play space.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
But I've been has been a while since I've been
able to get that. Oh I've been sitting on them
for two months now. How would you wait? I would you?
I would just wait on the right time. Won't you
just wait on the right time? Our very very special

(57:11):
guests just joining us, Cleveland Brown's rookie sensation running back
Quinn Shawn Judkins joins us, you what's going on?

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Bro? What's he good?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
He good?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Now? What's up?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
What house is that bank this week? When you've been
housing it since you got back? But you was really
housing that bank?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
You house call?

Speaker 10 (57:35):
I had to.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yeah? How you?

Speaker 4 (57:38):
How you feeling? Has your experience so far in the
NFL been?

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Has it been everything you expected it to be as
opposed to, you know, the transition from college.

Speaker 13 (57:47):
To Oh yeah, definitely, I feel like it's been more
so surreal, not only for myself but for my family
to get to experience everything, you know, get to meet
a lot of the players and that whole nine yards man,
and just getting the finally touchdown, you know, being through
going through so much a slow start to the beginning
of the season and then shoot, just everything taken off

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on Atland.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
That's what's up from Ohio.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I'm from Alabama. I'm from oh You forgot how.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Didn't let you get out of? How you get out of?
How did you get way to Ohio State from Fama.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
N I l uh.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
That's the way. That's the way to keep.

Speaker 13 (58:28):
Seriously, man, I think for myself just in college, man,
I ended up going to Old Miss for two years.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
I played there at the SEC.

Speaker 13 (58:38):
I had a lot of success, and then my last
year of college, for my junior year, I was like, man,
I want to go somewhere I compete for a national championship.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
So I ended up at Ohio State. I felt like
that was a great situation.

Speaker 13 (58:49):
Coach Day was a great type program, a lot of
talented players there, so you know, I was like, you know,
it's it's no better place to go than Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
So I ended up there. Ain't cute. Tell me something
you SEC?

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Uh freshman year I was like number knee for it
or something like that. But yeah, I think I was
a freshman year. I can't even remember.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
So you left the SEC to go to Ohio? Yeah, yep.
That different for me.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
It wasn't about that though.

Speaker 13 (59:19):
You know, like for many different people, like in the
game it's about the money, the car.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Different for me, it was like an end of the day. Bro.

Speaker 13 (59:27):
I'm a competitor. I'm trying to go out and you know,
kill it. Like I'm trying to go out and you know,
win games as much as possible. Because the old miss
I was putting up fifteen hundred yards, I'm getting fifteen
touchdowns a year. So I'm like, man, no, I'm doing
all all of that. But that's not what fulfills me.
That's don't that don't make me happy. So that wasn't
what I was chasing.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
You wanted that title q Q.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Hey, they don't give me that politic for not for real?
Come on, hey this your boy?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Come on, don't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Uh okay, okay, okay, let me let you have it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
One thing I want to talk about. I want to
talk about the Eveland Browns, and I want I want
to from the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
Outside looking I don't think you quite understand obviously you
in position, but me on the outside looking in, because
there's been there's been controversy at the quarterback position. Do
you understand that you are the bellcal that you are
the offense. That offense goes as you go. Most of

(01:00:29):
the times it's just a star player, star quarterback or
a star receiver, but you are the nucleus of that offense,
and as you go, the rest of the team goes you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Do you quite understand that just yet?

Speaker 13 (01:00:40):
I think, just because it's so early on in my career,
I quite don't get it yet. But at the same time,
I understand, like the situation, like in Coach stefanskis is
offense and envy go back to Nick Chubb and Kareem
Hunt and different guys playing in this offense has always
been able to to lean on the run game, and

(01:01:01):
I think that's what's very beneficial about playing this offense.
So I think, you know, just with my mindset, man,
and like my mentality, regardless of who we play that week,
what plays we're installing, just how that staying determination bro
to just go out there and like just leave it
all out on the field. But knowing the particular like situation,

(01:01:25):
like yeah, for sure, knowing that this is a run
first offense, I'm already Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
You in the West Coast system, in the West Coast system,
that's all you put your foot in the dirt and
you get out here, and then everything comes after that
because now we're gonna boot, we're gonna play action because look,
I played, I played in this offense. Now, a lot
of it's maybe changed, the wording of the burbage has changed,
But you go back and look at the Broncos offense
with TD and Clinton Porters and Mike Anderson and Ruben Drones,

(01:01:52):
and you look at the way the team run this
offense when you got a running back, when you got
a guy Christian McCaffery in San Francisco, Iron Williams with
the Rams. You look at Josh Jacobs with the Packers.
When you look when that when the run game is efficient,
this offense is almost impossible.

Speaker 13 (01:02:09):
Almost almost literally, because I felt like that's when our best,
when we're clicking in the rank game.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Like I felt like as a team, man, we're unstoppable, and.

Speaker 13 (01:02:18):
That that's where we continue to get better at and
consistently try to go out there on Sundays and put
it all together because I feel like, like you said, man,
that run game is what really helps us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Hey, what was your expectations when you what what was
your goals when you came in. You was dealing what
you did. You was dealing with what you was dealing
with in the offseason. I think you got uninvited to
the to the draft, but you were going through what
you was going through. You was like, Okay, this is
going to be behind me and I'm gonna have to
put what's what's this is? I gotta put that behind

(01:02:54):
and I got to go somewhere and I got to
perform at an elite level. I gotta play like I
know I can play. What were your expectations for your
rookie season.

Speaker 13 (01:03:04):
I think for myself it was more so a testament
to you know, what I'm doing when nobody was looking,
because when I wasn't in the building, you know, like
I didn't have a strength, a strength staff, I didn't
have a coach that talked to to go over plays.
I didn't have every resource that I had while I'm
here in Cleveland now. So it was like the amount

(01:03:26):
of dedication that it took for me to give everything
I had and try to perfect my crowd when I
wasn't around, and then come back and it was like
it was nothing and try to get on that same
page with no training camp, no football for what three months,
So not having those things and just training making sure

(01:03:47):
I'm mentally sharp so when I get that call and
I go back, I'm ready. I think that was my
things that I really harp the most. Also, other than
like physical activity, was really just making sure, you know, like,
I'm mentally sharp, just because you go through so much man,
and a lot of people don't understand.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
They'll never know what it's like, you know, especially being
an athlete and the things that we deal with.

Speaker 13 (01:04:13):
But yeah, bro, just really just making sure I'm mentally
there all the way sharp one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I love that what you said, what you were doing
with no one watching, because discipline is doing what you
should do versus what's trying to do. Yes, sir, I'm
sure you wanted to. Hey, the boys kicking it, they
doing they pay. Hey, let me go over here, let
me let me kick it. But the discipline stay true
because I got bigger issue. You're the first Browns player
with three rushing touchdowns in the game since Nick Chubb

(01:04:41):
did it September eighteenth, twenty twenty two. You had eighty
four yards rushing three touchdowns, and your Rookie of the
Week Nomineque when you when you see things like you've done,
doing things that hadn't been done by a Brown player
in three years. You're doing, you know, being nominated for
the Rookie of the Year. Look, we all want validation.
We put that kind of time and we put that

(01:05:01):
kind of working in the off season. And to see
you playing a treat you wanted to bear fruit, Yeah,
you're bearing fruit. Define how pleasing, how gratifying, how satisfying
is it for Like, Okay, everything that I did in
the off season, everything that I went through, this is
more gratified and makes it even more like I knew

(01:05:21):
I was doing the right thing for me.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
It more so like I'm doing one of those people
where it's like, man, I'm just I'm just trying to
chop what I'm just trying to chop? Well, you know
what I'm doing is that's cool. But at the same time,
like you know, I got bigger goals. I know how
I view myself as a competitor, how good I want
to be, so I don't really think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
But at the same time, when.

Speaker 13 (01:05:42):
I look up and knowing what I've been through, knowing
like how I persevered, knowing what like different challenges I
face and then you see the light at the end
of the tunnel. It motivates me personally to like, you know,
keep going and strive to be better. So I think
just that motivation you get from and hunger.

Speaker 14 (01:06:02):
A q man as a rookie in the NFL bro
living in the American dream, tell me, tell me what
it's like. Because when I look back when I was
a rookie playing in the NBA, bro, I couldn't sleep, Man,
I couldn't sleep. I was so geeked for the moment
because I'm coming because when I came in the NBA
in O one is when Jordan came back, you know,

(01:06:25):
t mat cole Vince called all them dudes, who was
you know, they was at the Apex. So I couldn't
sleep nice before games because IM for the moment. Man,
I'm not playing. So what is it like as a
rookie living in the American dream? You've probably been you know,
wishing for this moment since she was a kid, and
now it's actually in it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
What is it like?

Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
I think for me, man, like just finally being here.

Speaker 13 (01:06:50):
This is something you think about your whole life, like
you worked your whole life for this, Like you worked
since you was this big like to get to this,
to this moment, so it's like you're finally hear. But
what I realized was it's like, Okay, it's not how
fast you can get here, it's how long you can stay.
So so my thing is, you know, doing everything in

(01:07:13):
my power to you know, be able to go out
there and do this have the same amount of success
not only for this year but before a long time
and keep that saying discipline. So if that's one thing
I did learn, I would say is that, you know,
just having so many good vets too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
You got a lot of good vets in the locker.

Speaker 13 (01:07:29):
Room, and you meet a lot of good players around
the lead to develop a lot of relationships. I think
in college is more so very compared to the NFL,
I would say it's kind of individualized just because guys
aren't in locker rooms as long as they are at
different organizations in the league. So I think in the league, man,
you always have people that you can lean on get

(01:07:50):
advice from, because like coming into this, you know a
lot of stuff moves super fast. So having somebody that
you can ask different questions to so you're not just
hit by the blind for real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
For real?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Right, Hey, how's the body holding up?

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
I felt I felt good.

Speaker 13 (01:08:05):
You know, I used to get I got a lot
of carriers when I was like, oh man, I used
to get a lot of carries. And then last year
Ohio State, I think I had like maybe three hundred,
two hundred and fifty five.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
So I was used to being the bailkow guy, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
So I feel good, though, Okay, how does the quarterback look?
He started out and you know, Gabriel gets drafted and
your door comes in and we know what you do,
We know what that last name brings. You got Joe Blacko.
You got to pick it, and they okay, we're gonna
move on. We go in this direction. And now has
that the quarterback? The situation with Gabriel and your door,

(01:08:40):
is he gonna get reps? Is he gonna start? Is
he gonna play? Has that impact of the locker room anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:08:46):
I think with our team, we're also close, and we
got a lot of We got so many young guys. Man,
it's like in our locker room, we genuinely it's almost
like you're in college again. It feels like for real,
for real, Like damn, I'm like like room full of
young guys. But man, it's just like the energy there.
Regardless of who playing those two guys, they always support

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each other.

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
Like it was a clip I seen I like that
on the internet the other day and it was like.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
Them walking down the sideline and just talking, laughing about
I think we had just scored a touchdown or something.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
But that's who they genuinely are. That's who they truly are.

Speaker 13 (01:09:20):
They are competitives at the same time, they want what's
best for each other. And I don't think it's ever
been turmoil or any any words said by anybody on
our team, Like about who's dark quarterback. We all one
hundred percent support Dylan. I even played him when I
was at Ohio State twice. I played them at Oregon
once and then I played them again in Pasadena, California

(01:09:41):
De Rose Bowl, so I got to see him and
how he is at the quarterback. He's super talented, bro,
He's like super smart, he processes really fast, and he's
a great player.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
So I'm excited to see how he developed in his career.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
That's amazing. Man. Thanks for stopping by, Thanks for giving
some time congratulations on your early success, continue success, stay healthy,
and uh, you know, when it's all saying done, at
the end of the year, you go over a thousand yards,
come back and tell us how to say.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
I appreciate you, all appreciate you all right later, yo.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Hey, tell Denzel Ward he can't stop.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Look, hey, look, I'll be telling that practice he be
getting mad. I'll be like, bro, I've been in that
corner on your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Boy, I'm two twenty, I still do it. Yeah, I'm
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
I'm gonna hit him though, I'm gonna let him know

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
I appreciate that man.