December 13, 2025 • 51 mins
Relive some of the most heated moments from Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson including: Unc POPPING OFF on Asante Samuel, Ocho responds to a Cris Carter diss and much more!
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0:00 - Unc vs Asante Samuel24:47 - Ocho responds to Cris Carter32:46 - Family Fight after College football loss41:15 - Unc responds to OBJ
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Or you're gonna make Ojo crime.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Sante Samuel saw the clips of us debating him in
Prime and he responded to us, Ojo, that's your problem, pimp.
You're also brainwashed that Shannon Sharp. I'm not worried about
what everyone proceeds to be true, like yourself, I stand
on facts.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
You have yet to talk about the facts.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You can easily be manipulated, just like everyone has because
of marketing. I bet you won't debate me big facts,
Shannon Sharp. Safety has a short, Safety has the short middal.
Nobody's in the deep but me and the receiver. You
don't know the truth, pimp. You just talking at you
with no facts. Let's talk or you scared like everyone else.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hey, I ain't even know your answers. You're like, Okay,
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Y'all listen, we can have a club chay s right.
Listen to me. Now, stay with me. You have a
club Chase. She dB edition.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
A good conversation, PowerPoint presentation style film up there to
support each of your your opinions and facts that you might.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have no opinion. He's not time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let me let me finish, Baby, let me finish.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I'm just listen, I'm I'm I'm giving you the ultimate
content right now, something that's never been done before, a
format that's never been done before. Two players, actually three,
because you were part of a two three plays. You
got prime in Sonny Samuels and you you one that
loves a breakdown film. He's also one that loves a
breakdown film.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Now just picture this, you talking about you.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You think Kat william did a whole bunch of numbers
which you think you a son sitt down?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know, going over? Okay, you want to prove it,
prove it, dieing the skoy, don't lie.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just I'm just throwing the id out there because
the format has never been done before.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I've given give a coach time, and myself have given
a talante Samuel more tension since he's been retired than
he's ever gotten. After tonight, I'm done with this. There's
nothing to debate, There is nobody, There's no one gonna
say he's in the realm of Time. He's in the
(02:19):
realm of Darrel Reevers. He's in the realm of Rod
Woodson or a Charles Woodson.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Or a Darryl Green or a male Blunt.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He's not I don't give a damn what he says
about the film. He played. He played more game, he
played more. Look, bro, you had an unbelievable career. Congratulations,
You're just not Time. You're not Time, You're not Reevers,
You're hold on. Find out did he make an All
(02:48):
Decade team? Because Time made All decade and he's one
of the one hundred greatest players of all time. Let's
see his resume, Let's see his body of work. I complimented.
I said Time, don't believe it wastes motion. The team
step worked well for Sante. I gave him a compliment.
(03:13):
Let's see his resume. So he didn't make All decade.
Four time Pro Bowler, one time All Pro? How many times?
With how many Pro Bowls a time? Make how many
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all teams? Yes, oh, same number of Super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But one guy was a defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
One guy as a defensive back swung the balance of power.
How many dvs can say swung the balance of power.
He go to one team to keep the other team
from going. He goes to the other team and keep
that team from going. Bro, you had an unbelievable career.
(04:04):
You went to a Pro Bowl, you an All Pro.
You're not Time, and there's no and that's not a knob.
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But I don't know why you're getting mad at me.
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Find Go find a gym, Go find the coach. Go
find a player that says a Sante Samuel is the
equivalent or better than time. That's all you gotta do. Hell,
your son won't say you better than time, and he
a junior. Let's be real, man, you're coming, I'm the
wrong way. You what you're doing, where you're going?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know what you're talking about, Bro, I don't
know what you're talking about. I complimented you. I said
you had an outstanding career. I say the tea step
served you well. I just said you weren't Time. That's okay.
If somebody says, you know what, Shannon, you had an
unbelievable career. Shannon, you at the eight Pro Bowl, your
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first team All Pro You're an all decade player, You're
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But you ain't Gromp.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, you ain't Travis Kelsey Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But you ain't gonna go no other tight end. Let
me talking about you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Ain't that If you want to say Gromp, if you
want to say Kelsey, Shannon, you not that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I ain't finna fight you. But you ain't gonna go
no more.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You ain't gonna go no more because when I left,
every record that are tied they could have, I had it,
catch it, yards, touchdown, most yards of the game.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Hey, so hold on, I just now that you mentioned
that when it comes when we factoring the numbers and statistics,
does that play any factor in of Sonny's case or
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Just this career he.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Had more, He had more pass breakups and fewer interceptions.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
How many pig sixty did he have? All I know is.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
When I left the game, I had every record that
a tight end coul possibly have. Ain't nobody had them
but me. Now that them came along and broke him.
Gonzo broke them, and Gaze did this, and and Gronk
and this and that. But I don't know. I don't
know why, he madded me. I gave him a compliment. Yeah,
I had, he had an outstanding career.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I said.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The t step for him served him well.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I like I like the convo, I like the dialogue.
I would I would love. I would love, especially for
not the casual fan, but for people that are fans
of the game. I wish we could die a little
bit more. Obviously not here on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm just asking you find the general manager, find the
head coach, find the receiver. Because he talking about he
talking like he was that he back. I guarantee you
when you find somebody that say he'll top ten, a
top ten corner back if we go back and study history,
top ten corner. So we got Time, we got Reeves,
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we got Mail Blunt, we got Rod Woodson, we got
Daryl Green, we got a Nils Williams, we got Mail Blunt.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, that's seven right.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There where we Where are we going to put him
in the list of all times and the history of
the NFL? As he's cracking the top ten, that's your
(07:42):
I mean, that's your homeboy heron Florida. I want you
to tell me, you tell me what would you put
him now anywhere. I'm asking you. I just named seven guys.
Which one of those seven guys? You?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Are you putting him in front of?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Uh? Listen, I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, I forgot about Champ Bailey. You put him in
front of Champ.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You ain't answered the question.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Are you putting him in front of Champ Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm listening, Yeah, where would you put him?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I asked you already.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I asked you the question. Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now I'm asking you, where do you ranking?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just asked this matter, simple question. I gave him
seven eight names. He talking about, Well would I rank it?
I ask you, I get it. You're gonna probably bump
into it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Hold on all the time, Hey, hold on, It don't
matter who I bump into.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Okay, well you got it in front of me. But
he addressed you. Where are you asking me the question?
He addressed you, So I'm asking you, what are you
I already said it?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Are you putting He's not in front of Time, He's
not in front of Reavers. He's not in front of
Rod Woodson. He's not in front of Charles Woodson. He's
not in front of Mail Blunt. He's not in front
of Nils Williams. He's not in front of a champ Bailey.
That's seven. That's seven guys. Okay, now you who is
he in front of? Is he top ten all time
into history? Dick Knight, Trey Lane, a mil tunnel.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is here? A hey, uh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Uh, I'm just asking he got all these facts? Who
is he in front of? I'll tell you what. Who
is he in front of of the list that I
just named?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Now you you you name, you name all lord, you
name all time like all time?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He talking like he all times great. That's the problem.
Nobody got a problem with him saying he's not good.
We're talking about he talking about you talk about all
time great? The guy that I listen, he's at the
front of the line. Timon Mayel Blunt Defensive Player of
the Year, Charles Woodson Defensive Player to the Year, Rod
Woodson Defensive Player of the Year. There are a lot
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of guys, but number two one is at the front
of the line. He talking like he in that group,
they are a group. Look, we go into a room
in the Hall of Fame. Okay, we going to a room.
We all into a room. But there are certain guys
at certain tables were in the room. But we're not
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at that table. He not even in the room. He
on the outside. Hey, y'all know I played right, Yeah,
but this for big dog.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Keep it a stack. So I will chat.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Y'all tell me of the guys that I listen, who
he better than? I ain't mentioned Pat P, I ain't
Richard Mitchell Sherman yet.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I I just gave y'all a couple of names.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I want you to tell me who he better than
than the list I listed who y'all put him in
front of Chat y'all put him in front of Dion
y'all put him in front of Reavers, y'all put him
in front of Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, h y'all put
him in front of Mail Blunt. Who are y'all putting
Champ Bailey? Who are y'all putting him in front of
(11:21):
Santa Samuel?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Who? Well?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm trying. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see
what the chat talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, I want no, I want you to see what
the chat talking about. You playing against it? What you're
talking about? You played against Charles Woodson, you played against
Fat P, you played against Sharon.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Who are you putting it in front of.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I ain't playing against Sharon, but you know you know
I did. I did. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I didn't a thing everywhere I went. You hear me,
it was like it was like Halloween. If I knock
on the door, I'm coming to get some candy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm asking you a simple question. Of the guys that
that were mentioned, who is he in front of?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And I wouldn't say in front of because you mentioned
you know, the greats, but he has he has the
numbers to be in the room.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I know, I know that much.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And you base everything off numbers when you talk about
let me let me finish before you say anything. When
you talk about mj in comparison to Michael Jordan, when
it comes to the base in any other sport, we
always bring up the numbers, but all of a sudden,
the numbers are ignored.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
When it comes now talking about in comparison and he.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Got got oh the dude got four Pro bowls.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Listen to me. I'm not finished.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Okay, but again, now we we understand. We we we understand.
But when we do a comparison based on greatness, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Tell you what guess everything for coach your former coach
had three Pro Bowls and sixty two picks.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You taking dick lebou Oh what hey?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what you know about?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You just told me? Numbers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I mean that that listen, that's what everything is based
off of, right.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yo, Okay, numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, let's go all pros, let's go Pro bowls, let's
go all decade.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Let's go defensive player of the year. That's part of numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Also, just not.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Picks, okay, Okay, See, I'll look at it like this.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns,
what have you done?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Okay? I see what, I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I thought the job of a corner is to take
away more than you give up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That that's that's a great convo.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who
is he better there than the list I renamed. Now
we're gonna have guess what, Let's have the conversation. Hopefully,
Lord spare both of our our lives, we're able to
have a conversation another ten to fifteen years. Will I'm
gonna I'm gonna need to see a gold jacket on
his back because all the guys that I mentioned I
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hate Jalen Ramsey's gonna be coming up. Richard Sherman's gonna
be coming up. Pat P's gonna be coming up. You
see what he trying to do. Oh, it's all about marketing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Bro. You played on the Patriots, Ty Low played on
the Patriots. Ty Long got a red jacket and a
gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So don't do that bull job about marketing if you
who was on TV more than the Patriots?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh Joe, oh, during during that, during that, during that time?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Who yeah, Oh so nine's marketing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Time.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ain't no marketing, bro. Yeah, he marketed himself to know
how to parlay that. But that man on the field.
You better go check the tates. Either you can or
you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
That's a great conversation, bro, that's a that's a good
one now.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh ha, Willie Brown, Mike Haynes. Mike Haynes got nine,
like nine Pro bowls. You better go check.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's a great convo Let me grab me.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Go ahead, Bro, Santae, you have a great career. Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, you good player. You just all I said you
weren't time and you had to get personal. I don't know,
I don't know why. I mean, if you want to
come on Nightcap to get to get your name out there.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You could have did that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Hey, hey, hey, listen, that is a great conbo, broy
you hear me.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's a great What's a great combo?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
This one?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I like this just obviously it's not me as the individual,
but I'm just saying that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Crime. Is he better than Stefan Gilmore?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
At some point, chat, don't y'all wante you to chime
in instead of just talking about this is a great combo.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You say nothing to you? You tell you this is
nightcap unking Ocho. We don't miss each other. We go
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm in chairming it all. I've been chairming it on.
I'm listening to you.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Listen, you see what he listening to me? He and dressed.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He addressed Shannon Sharp. He's sent a long message to
Shannon Sharp. So I'm just listening.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What did he hollo?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Where did he addressed Shannon Sharp? What was Shannon Sharp
speaking on?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
What? On him?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Oh? Night cap night cap unking? Ocho?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right? So is your is your job to answer back?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I get it?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Chat, y'all, see o Cho don't want to chime in?
He for Florida O cho might bump into it. Y'all
know me. I'll give a damn whatever what if he
heard the problem, heard the thing with whatever Shannon Sharp
say on night Cap, Shannon Sharp with if you bed
bumped it? You said player Shannon Sharp is mad enough
to stand on that bro.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You not Tying?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You not Charles Woodson, You not Rod Woodson, You not
Darrell Reevers, You not male Blood, You not Mike Haynes,
You not are Green, You not facts. Now of the
ten guys that I named, mind the coach, find the
receiver that says Sante Samuel is better than any of
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those guys.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
See the way, the way, the way you make it sound,
Oh see you you you're being mean? Oh Yoe and
you and you you see you?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, how you make it sound.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You make it sound like like Buddy was trash or something.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I didn't say he was trash the way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I'm just saying, the way you talking like you acting
like we just sitting here talking about some just some
old bum we I'm just I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Oh Joe, who could I say?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah? I mean, listen, I played the game. Listen, I
played to be right. Hold let me stay with me,
Stay with me, stay with me real quick.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I played the game on the other side the ball,
so I know I played against Prime, I played against
zunt I have an understanding of both and how good
they were, what they hold on great as Prime was
and how good Zant was. So it's hard for me
to sit here and say, you know the way you're
doing it. When I saw with my own eyes, I understand.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
How great Prime is.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But then I know what that young boy was doing
as well.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
When he was playing.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
All I said, I said he was good.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I said he was a very good player, had an
unbelievable career. He used the technique. He used the technique
that time doesn't approve of two things can be true, yes, sir, okay,
some guys like to play press and open the gate.
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Some guys like the press and put hands, whatever technique
works for you. But he was talking as if he
was the equivalent, because he posted his stats in Time Stats, saying,
look at our stats, right, So he's posting those stats
as if he's the equivalent, and I said he's not.
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I didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said
he went the Pro Bowls. I think he was an
All pro. I know he won Super Bowls in New England.
That's what I said, right. He took offense that I
didn't co sign him. I don't need no marketing. I
don't need to co sign. I think everybody's known. I
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didn't have an opportunity to critique time when he played
when he went back for those two years, because he
was mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay,
that's fine, But I've never had a problem critiquing any player.
I critique Tom Brady, hating Manny. You name a player
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ray Lewis received t o Randy. I've never had a
problem critique it because I'm basing it on my knock,
intimate knowledge of the game and film study. When I
was at CBS. I would watch film. How many times
when I was at CBS or Fox. When you ever
heard a guy called tell about Shanny shop don't know
what the hell he talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, that ain't happen.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
See what y'all try to do? Well, you're doing this.
That's not what I said. No, No, I never said
I've never see the differences SKIP tried to say.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I said I was better than Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I said Tom Brady wasn't playing well, why would I,
as a tight end, compare myself.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
To a quarterback? Okay, right, right right, I would need to.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Compare myself to grump, to Kelsey or a tight end.
That's the only way you can get an equivalent. I said.
I said, yeah, a Sante had a great career, Pro Bowl,
Super bowls Now, God like I said, you want to say, Shallna,
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you ain't trapped, you ain't grown. You're right, You're right,
you got me, right, you got me. But I'm I'm
just confused. But look, bro, you I gave her many.
(21:28):
I gave you fifteen minutes of fame, fame that you
never would have got had you not mentioned me or time.
Enjoy it. Now go back to your solitary life. Nobody's
gonna win. Were the last I tell you? What about Joe?
When was the last time prior to last night, when
was the last time you heard somebody Minchell Sante, Samuel,
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Take your time, I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna get
me some water. Take you time, chat, y'all keep on
your interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hey anyway, chat, we're back. His lovepset, his love set.
Other than that, it's great conversation. I like it. I
like the dialogue. I like the back and forth. I
like players also. We always talk about having a belief,
having not only a belief in what you can do
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and what you've already done, and bring it to the forefront,
bring it to the forefront, and supporting what it is
you've done in comparison to someone else who is also great.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Now, a lot of people won't see it that way
as you can see it, including one thing I've.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Always do see is.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
If you were bad at what you do, then I
will always come out and say that. But I played
against both and I understand how good both were. I
understand how great Prime was, obviously catching him on the
tail end of his career and obviously playing against Sante
doing his prime, and understanding how good he was, how
much of a student of the game he was.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And what I'm not going to do is diminish what
I was able to see for years while I.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Was playing and understanding watching film here and understand how
good he was and how savvy was technically, you know.
So it's different coming from someone that actually played on
the opposite side and understand how good he was, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
So it's hard to see it to say, oh he'd not.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Been whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I had to go against this. I had to go
against that for years.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So it's different.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's different, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's especially and a lot of a lot of people
in the chat of some of the comments on Twitter,
on x whatever it may be, their feelings are always
different as well, because it's based off who you know
and what they've done.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Hey, that was good.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I just asked you a simple question. Proud of last
night and today. When was the last time you heard
somebody mentioned a Sante Samuel.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I be on Nightcap every time I tied end make
a record? Who record? They see her there? The most
one hundred and fifty yard games, the more lost, this
the most that every Sunday in the NFL season on
the tight end does something? Who name is up there?
When they have them names? He just passed this one.
Who name is also up there?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Ojo? O jo? Don't worry about ojo.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Hey, Chad, all I try to do I try to,
you know, try to go back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But ohoe, you know O chose like, Hey.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We did, we did go back and forth. That was
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Though.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Now, no, you you laughing. I'm saying for real, that
was a good one. I don't that was a That
was a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
While we'll wait, there's some people that have some words
for you. For me, Chris Carter had some words for
Ojoe last week. He said that points, Oh yep, he
said there were points in Chad's career that you had
to go out there and tell him what to do
because he couldn't get over to save his life.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
He couldn't get over against average guys.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns one time in its
eleven years. I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times.
Scored in the football. Is the number one player at
the receiver. No, I was not a burner. I ran
four to six four six five. But he can do
it every single day, can do it for four quarters
and the consistent at it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Oh cho, you know what that get?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Child? Please? I don't know what. I don't. I'm just
trying to take out.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I have a question before you even go, what the
hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay, you
scored double dinit touchdowns? Okay, cool? You want a cookie?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What brought this on.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You had a conversation, have you have you have you
had a conversation with CC?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No, I don't ain't no, I don't need to have
a question, so right, I heard Also he said, well,
he only had double digit touchdowns one season, so he's
not a Hall of Famer. But does that mean Julio
Jones not a Hall of Famer either? Because Julio Jones
only had double digit touchdowns one season?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You have?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You have dumb?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You had dumbn That sounds yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Sometimes I listen to things and and everyone's situation is different,
you know, everyone's situation different.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean so stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I paid no mind because everything is predicated off numbers
and based on what they did, based on other people's.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Situations were different. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Obviously where I was, I did the best I could,
but the cards I was dealt and I did one
hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what
you did. I don't care not about your numbers. It
don't make it, don't make me none. Why is my
name even being brought up?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I don't know why it was brought up. I don't because,
like I said, O yo, I don't really listen to
anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,
you know, to try to make our podcast better than
what it is, and I got so I'm trying to
get guessed and I'm going with the bookers like Okay,
who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.
(27:15):
So I don't really have time to pay attention. But
it just kept popping up, not only on it kept
popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on
the internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I said, did o Cho say something about him? Or what?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
What? For? One? You know, I don't talk about people.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, we definitely don't talk about people that do what
we do never and you know, I don't talk about nobody,
you know.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But you know, congratulations and everything he said, Happy, Happy
for you Chris Card and your double digit touchdowns and
your Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I love you. I wish you con continue success and
whatever it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is you got going on. Baby, I know what we're
doing over here, though I know, I know, I know,
I know why I'm going.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm going maybe he wanted you to respond, and.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I did respond. I just said I love him.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think
maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way.
And I got First of all, you got kids, I
got kids, I got grand kids.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I'm not Finn. Go look what we did. We did.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I can't he can't go back and score no more touchdowns.
You can't go back and score no more touchdowns. I
can't scoring over touchdowns. We're right here.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Oh man, yes, you're doing that. No great job, o.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man, I'm still scoring touchdowns in life.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He said we played. I don't care about that. I'm
scoring double double digit touchdowns right now.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sure, come on.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Now, you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where
I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I hear what you said. I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught
up and talk about what we used to do.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, what you're doing now, talk to me, what you're
doing now?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We were all great at once upon a time in
our own right, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know you did what you did. I think CC
played sixteen seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Wait, how many how many he played?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sixteen?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
How many I played?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know, hell you played? I think you played
level of twelve?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Did you elevel? How many a YA played? Eleven? He
played sixteen? How many? How many yars you got?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Man? Look here, I'm just I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm just trying.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm trying to get a better understand how many yars
you got?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't ask ask ask how many yards does the
CC have?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But okay, the chance said, CC snapped because he was
pissed at Ocho for saying that he could beat Travis
in a one on match up ten out of ten times.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Why is he worried about?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Bro, We just be joking when we say stuff, man,
it ain't that sad.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do
the same thing with everybody. Just you do?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You just play?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
As Sid said, Oh Joe, can you not challenge everybody
that come on here? O?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You everybody that come on here can get that work?
He hit me and Travis.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Hutick below fourteen thousand yards. He had thirteen thousand, eight
hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
So he played fifteen season sixteen, I think sixteen, and
he got well thirteen thousand yards almost fourteen thousand. Okay,
so he plays fifteen sixteen, he only got three thousand
more yards than me and played five more season I
had eleven. I guess yeah, Okay, okay, I'm just trying
to get a better understanding on why. Okay, cool anyway,
(30:46):
But like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, uh,
I had the utmost confidence in my ability and being
able to do any and everything. That's something that a
lot of people in this world lack. Even if you
feel you can't do it, you have to feel you
can because everything starts up here in the mind. So
everybody that comes up here in regards to what sports
they player, whatever it is that they do, I feel
(31:07):
I can beat them. And if you feel, if you
fear you can beat me doing at what you do best,
whatever it may be, you're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass
up right now about what he did.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Huh he's sixty. What that means?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
He talking like he still got it. Get out here,
get on the field, line it up with you. I'll
lock your ass up too.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
We got a pose. That's what we got. So we
breathe it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We walk in, we get up out of bed with
our right mind, blood running warm about veins.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
On.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So this is the thing about it. One thing about
the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had,
is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what
it should looked like.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Uncle, I'm not there with McLees and my shoes on
what out there running full speed.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I still got it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You hit me.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it's one thing.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know
whether exit and those, and you have a receiver coach
that actually never played, never really played the game. They
just know the game based on paper and what it
should look like. Yeah, Like, I'm not there running the
routs with you. I'm not only just I'm not telling
you what it should look like. I can actually display
it and show you. Boy, this is this is picasso.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, I will say this, love. I've known CC a
long time. His brother and I used to hang wet
to the Super Bowls and stuff. I would just say this, CC, No,
when the man joke it, he wasn't that serious.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No, CC, I love you, baby, but putting them clease on,
put them clease on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I put these two hands in your chest. Why you
won't catch shit?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Pat, You're one of the stories that we're about to
talk about. Nine is really upsetting to me. X NFL
quarterback Travon Boykin said Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson's mansion felt
weird because none of his family was around. Let's take
a listen what Boykin had to say with.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yo, yes, Sir Russell Wilson, I went to his house
for Thanksgiving, the weirdest feel like he catered so no,
you know, like, bro, I come from a traditional country
black family doing that. If I got as much money
as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me
so bad. If I ain't fly everybody out there for
thanks Getting and I'm sponsored by airline.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Maybe maybe he's not close to his family.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
And maybe maybe he not, but his mama would nerve
sisters wordner you know what I'm saying, Like, even even
though like it's still works me. I'm just even even
if you don't fool with your family, like, it's still
works me. On Thanksgiving, My family gonna do the food.
This is what we're gonna if you the one with
the money, were coming to your house, so to get
(33:53):
over there and ketch. Russell Wilson like him is literally
him Sierra Sierra, Dad Me, nooney, baby Future, the self
in two nannies and three dogs and baby Future at
(34:14):
that time was bad as hell.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Hey, I got a question, mpe I got answer for
you too. Why is he sharing information anyway?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because see that's what not chat.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Now you see why I don't have a whole lot
of mofos at my house. See, he worried about somebody
else family, your black ass there. He invited you. He
looked at you like family and what you do dial
the mouth? You think you said it ten or something. Man,
I went to russell house, that mansion.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, because he had an outside of end there. That
was the weird part about it. That's why you don't
let people come to your house a chat nobody. First
of all, No, me and my brother had money.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Guess what. Thanksgiving always at Granny's.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
House, even though we couldn't get back, it was always
going to be there. We had a big ass cookout
on you guess where it was? In Granty's backyard.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Look, I don't get it. I'm confused. Why is everybody
always looking for a moment? Why is everybody always looking
for this a moment to go viral or to get
your little fifteen minutes? He lets you into his home
on Thanksgiving, a special day. Okay, if the family wasn't there,
maybe they don't get it along, maybe they don't see
the eye to eye. I mean, just I don't don't
(35:40):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't get it either. O Ye, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
His family wasn't there, but you was there. But you
take this opportunity now years later to talk about it
because russ ain't been in Seattle for a long period
of time, right, and now you bring this up because
you try to Oh guess who was there? Uh Sierra Daddy,
Uh nooney baby, future the chef. For the most part,
(36:11):
I have a get together. I'm catering it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I just don't get bro. I don't get that. Why
you put this man, this man invited you into his home.
You telling what what's happening inside this man home? That's
why see and people are man? You anti social, No
I'm a people running their damn mouth. Ain't nobody that
man invited you into his home, Oh, Joe, I guarantee
(36:40):
you Russe. Rusto invited a whole lot of people into
his home for the most part, and say, Russell, stand offish.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
He invited you, invited your ass into his home. And
the things that he gets, no good deed goes unpunished.
This is the things he gets, Oh, Lady Rose that now, see,
Rob Rush, don't f with a whole lot of people.
I'm sorry Rush that you had to find out the
whole hard way that some ninjas ain't ish.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And that's that's messed up.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And he thinks he said something on Yoe. He got
his hand caught to the side. He swear, he's just like, oh,
these nuclear codes. Let me tell you what's going on.
He let me tell you about the agreement that the
Ukraine is about to sign with the Russia.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He had like he give me some information like that.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, talking to that man, that's messed up. Damn.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I don't worry about what somebody in somebody relationship is
with their family. That ain't got nothing to do with
me at all. I don't know what his family done
to him. I don't know what he's done to them.
I don't know, but for whatever reason they weren't there.
It doesn't bother me because guess where I'm at. I'm here, right,
(37:55):
I'm gonna eat. I don't worry if I go somewhere
on Yoe, I'll be God as to God on his
true I don't worry about.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Who's not there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I concerned myself with who's here. Okay, man invited me in. Okay,
I've been invited to places. Ain't nobody know, right, I
ain't take no pictures. I ain't tell nobody if they
(38:25):
didn't wanted. If they done wanted people to know, they'd
have told who they wanted to know, and they'd have
been there.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
They ain't mentioned nothing about me because I slept here
and slept out the back door. But there's some this,
some bullji chat. I don't care. Y'all can't convince me
that this is this. Oh he should, oh you know
that man just telling No, this man has got no
business telling what that man got going on his house.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
If he had four dogs sitting at the table, that's
his table, and he invited your ass.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
In and you, yeah, we shouldn't know that. Honestly, we
shouldn't know anything about that at all. That's that's that's
personal information. It's personal.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And didn't, oh Joe, and to make it guess what
he did. And at that time, baby future.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Was Now you're talking about the now you talking about
the baby too.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The kids, for the most part, you get kids, they're
gonna be a certain you know, they don't want to
have to sit down. Maybe he doesn't know why eat
your food? Okay, that's that's a part of having a kid.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Maybe he doesn't have kids, he doesn't understand. They're all bad.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
They're all bad. Oh, oh, Joe, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
For the most part, the more money you have, the
more likely when you have an event, it's gonna be catered.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Right, That's just the way it is. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Now, some people, Hey, some people, they mom and their
grandma say, baby, I want to cook. Okay, granted you
ain't got to, No, baby, I want to do it.
I know if I had something big for my family, Oh,
it's getting catered.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I ain't cooking nothing.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
As a matter of fact, the only time the oven
in the store gonna be turned on, do we heat
some issue.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Well, honestly, you know that the women normally do all
the cooking.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But I'm just saying, o Jo, if you look and
he was, imagine it wasn't nobody there. It should have
been one minus one. Your ass shouldn't have been there. Yeah,
see here, ain't nobody ask you that? That's crazy? I
don't know why, why that's messed up? I just don't
(40:52):
get why why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
O yo?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, let me ask you a question. Why you didn't
take you up puncast to your family? Since were talking
about family, where was your family?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
M Obviously this was on a podcast. In order to
do a podcast, you have to ask him.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
He wasn't on no podcast when he's ass was in
Russell Wilson house. So he's talking about Russ's family wasn't there?
Where was his family? You in the NFL? So clearly
you got money. Why didn't you find your family in
you worried about whatever? And he sponsored by airline? Why
you counting that man?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Pockets and hell they got to do it anything.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I still want to know where was your family?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Your mom, your dad, your aunties, your uncles, your family,
your brothers, where were they.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I don't know. You talk about what Russell didn't have
it his.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, he said, I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
So he invited you to his house. So clearly they
thought you were going to be alone.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, And we thought you We thought you was cool.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
You probably didn't have family to go to for a
Thanksgiving and were welcome with open arms.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
There been a many of Thanksgiving by myself when I
was in Denver. O. Yo, I go to the seven eleven,
get them sandwiches that you're putting the microwave, and take
my black ass home.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm cool with it. I call it a day.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
One time, I'm trying to think who house did I
went to. I think maybe Burns. I think Burns was
the only place. Maybe. I think Monica. I think Reggie,
who was a tight end of Denver. I think Monica
cooked one year and I went over there. But for
the most part on you all by myself, and I
was cool with that. Hey, and then my teammates with invitement. Hey, sharp,
(42:52):
I know you're gonna be by yourself. You want to
come over, man, I'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You'll never go, But I don't go.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't go to people house. The one time I did.
I did go to somebody's house and I had to
tell you about it. Yeah, but I would never go
to somebody house and talk about what wasn't there. Man,
you and you you thought of me, thought enough of
me to invite me into your place. And then I'm
gonna give a podcast and try to dump on you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, that's crazy, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Gonna dump on I'm gonna dump on your son, talk
about Oh he was bad.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
That's crazy. You're looking for that moment.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I just hate that, man. I hate that. Russ don't
bother nobody. You could, you could, You can like or dislike,
but he don't. Really, he don't bother nobody. He ain't
out there talking about nobody. The man found somebody that
made him happy. At the end of the day. He
and Sierra. I'm on the outside. Oh you're just like
everybody else. But it seems like they have a really
good marriage. Yeah they have ups and down. Yeah they
(43:56):
have disagreements. That's what the marriage is. Marriages work. Did
you shut you don't get the job? Oh, Joe, just like, Okay,
that's it. No, you have to work. I'm marriage. You
get into a relationship. Everything is chumming. But you have
to work every day, and I get that, but for y'all,
for for people to try to take a shot into
the man in his house. If you want to say,
you see me walking down the street and you say
(44:16):
that man he speak to me, you can say you
know what he's and I do.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm not you know, I'm on the plane. No Joe,
I got my head set on and people trying to talk,
and I just come put this very reason, you see, ojomhmm?
You see yeah, how you start carrying on conversations. Yeah,
I talked to him. Oh he told me all this stuff.
I talked to him for hours. And see how you
now you see why?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
O Joe? Now you see why?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, I just I've never been able to do that.
Anything I do, it always stays in house.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes it should. It always stays in house.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And there.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It's definitely it's definitely not for the public. That that's
that's that's a no.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
No, oh Joe, you go to somebody house, I ain't
even a don't ask me. I don't know, man, what
was such and such thing?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Man, I was just there yesterday. Oh man, you don't
give up Nobody intel like that. Man, the man invited
you in. If somebody is nice enough to invite you in,
the last thing you do is to try to paint
them in a negative light.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, and what's the point.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What's the point? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
There's not there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
There's nothing they want. Maybe they wanted to Maybe they
wanted to celebrate on their own. Maybe they didn't want
to fly away out of Seattle. Where's Russ is from Virginia?
Right he from That's he from the East Coast, isn't he.
Maybe they didn't want to fly away to Seattle to
take a six hour plane ride right.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah, I don't get it. Man,
I am so sorry. I was, man, I was listening.
I was listening to this old show.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And the more he talked, it was he wasn't he
talking about me? The more he talked, And like my
grandma to say, boy, the more you talk, the matter
I get.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I mean it just lets you oh Jo bad, I swear,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
How you go to somebody house? Man, you know who
house I was at yesterday? Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
I wouldn't even let that information out, thank you, Let
alone on the show.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
No, come on, man, oh Lord.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Have mercy. Man Russ, I am so sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
All than that, Russe A handful of times I made
him in his rookie Cason had a great conversation with him.
You can tell that he was serious about he was
serious about football. Asked a bunch of question, just man,
how do you win the Super Bowl? What was John Lway?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Like? What did y'all do you know? Y'all close? What
was y'all this?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Asked a bunch of questions.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, yeah, we As a matter of fact, it was
at the Super Bowl in New Orleans when the forty
nine Ers played.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
The Ravens. That was his rookie season.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh where where everything went out?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
We remember the lights went out, lights went out, Yeah,
that's where it was, man, Russ, I'm sorry, Bro, I'm sorry. Hey,
these guys getting the way they talked. Real house husbands.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, but the housewives they know these hugs, the.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Real house husbands.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah. Oh. Joe Jackson.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Dark will start Week thirteen against the Patriots, have to
share classic tribute to its former head coach Brian Dabas.
Dark said, Obviously, there's been a lot happened since I've
been up here. And I just want to acknowledge that
coach dav and all he did for me. When I
look back on everything, it's really special to come to
a place where a coach genuinely cares about you and
loves you, and you have that personal relationship on and
(48:18):
off the field. I just have all the respect in
the world for him. Oh, Joe, I don't know, have
you ever had a coach fired during the season?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
No, no, mm hmm. You know I was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
I mean that Mike Brown, and that's not that's not therefore.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
It No, Mike Brown, I ain't want to play nobody that
you're not working for me, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Gonna pay you. And I got a guy actually coaching.
I gotta pay him too.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
No, I mean I haven't had a coach as fired
during the season, but obviously I haven't had coaches fired
after the season. And it's tough. It's tough, especially when
you build up a relationship. You go like coach Reeds.
Coach Reed drafted me. He was really smart to draft me,
but he was I don't know what he's lost to
bump his head because he forgot to cut me. Wade
Phillips came in after Coach Reeves and brought Jim Fossil
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and arrest his soul who built his offense around.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
A tight end when that was unheard of.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
So when those guys I mean, and I kept a
relationship with Coach Reeves kept a relationship with Wade Phillips,
and I see Wade is just like because I owe
a lot of my starting to Wade, because Wade was
a defensive coordinator in Denver and told Coach reed to
put me in the game.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Wade did that.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Put him in there.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Coach Reeves drafted me and believed in me and say, son,
you can you can play in this league.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
He said, I've played in this league. I've coached in
this league. You can play. You got what it takes
to play in this league. He believed in me.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Put a couple of players in there day when I
when I got in there, say I'm gonna call this
play off. This play is just for you. He called
the play for me, and I fed it up. How
you f up your plate?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
If you mess up a play that's really not intended
for you, but you're gonna get the ball.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I get so happy.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Man, I get so happy, or I get so I
get so amped up about your I.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Forget everything, forget everything.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
I did. Man, I get so hyped. Man I just
I just like I'm just panted.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
But uh yeah, it's tough because this is what Jackson
Dark knows. Brian dave Ball personally selected him. He wanted
Jackson darkbacks.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
The quarterback that he wanted. He wanted Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
And I think Jackson Dark needs to understand one thing,
o't yoe.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I understand you tough and.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It gets the crowd going and a nice your team,
but you're not finna make no living running over those trying.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
To run people over.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Yeah, no, eat driven, driven, somebody, somebody gonna somebody gonna
get to him.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Who they already got to it. The mystery he did
a miss three games with a concussion.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah, but you know I he had headed.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
He young.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
He ain't gonna listen.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's gonna somebody gonna catch him clean and he'll be like,
you know what the same for me. Let me stay
behind my computer, let me stay behind my camera and
do what I need to do from there
Hello, it's your favorite sports tunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Or you're gonna make Ojo crime.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Sante Samuel saw the clips of us debating him in
Prime and he responded to us, Ojo, that's your problem, pimp.
You're also brainwashed that Shannon Sharp. I'm not worried about
what everyone proceeds to be true, like yourself, I stand
on facts.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
You have yet to talk about the facts.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You can easily be manipulated, just like everyone has because
of marketing. I bet you won't debate me big facts,
Shannon Sharp. Safety has a short, Safety has the short middal.
Nobody's in the deep but me and the receiver. You
don't know the truth, pimp. You just talking at you
with no facts. Let's talk or you scared like everyone else.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hey, I ain't even know your answers. You're like, Okay,
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Y'all listen, we can have a club chay s right.
Listen to me. Now, stay with me. You have a
club Chase. She dB edition.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
A good conversation, PowerPoint presentation style film up there to
support each of your your opinions and facts that you might.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have no opinion. He's not time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let me let me finish, Baby, let me finish.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I'm just listen, I'm I'm I'm giving you the ultimate
content right now, something that's never been done before, a
format that's never been done before. Two players, actually three,
because you were part of a two three plays. You
got prime in Sonny Samuels and you you one that
loves a breakdown film. He's also one that loves a
breakdown film.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Now just picture this, you talking about you.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You think Kat william did a whole bunch of numbers
which you think you a son sitt down?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know, going over? Okay, you want to prove it,
prove it, dieing the skoy, don't lie.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just I'm just throwing the id out there because
the format has never been done before.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I've given give a coach time, and myself have given
a talante Samuel more tension since he's been retired than
he's ever gotten. After tonight, I'm done with this. There's
nothing to debate, There is nobody, There's no one gonna
say he's in the realm of Time. He's in the
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realm of Darrel Reevers. He's in the realm of Rod
Woodson or a Charles Woodson.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Or a Darryl Green or a male Blunt.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He's not I don't give a damn what he says
about the film. He played. He played more game, he
played more. Look, bro, you had an unbelievable career. Congratulations,
You're just not Time. You're not Time, You're not Reevers,
You're hold on. Find out did he make an All
(02:48):
Decade team? Because Time made All decade and he's one
of the one hundred greatest players of all time. Let's
see his resume, Let's see his body of work. I complimented.
I said Time, don't believe it wastes motion. The team
step worked well for Sante. I gave him a compliment.
(03:13):
Let's see his resume. So he didn't make All decade.
Four time Pro Bowler, one time All Pro? How many times?
With how many Pro Bowls a time? Make how many
(03:34):
all teams? Yes, oh, same number of Super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But one guy was a defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
One guy as a defensive back swung the balance of power.
How many dvs can say swung the balance of power.
He go to one team to keep the other team
from going. He goes to the other team and keep
that team from going. Bro, you had an unbelievable career.
(04:04):
You went to a Pro Bowl, you an All Pro.
You're not Time, and there's no and that's not a knob.
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But I don't know why you're getting mad at me.
I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Find Go find a gym, Go find the coach. Go
find a player that says a Sante Samuel is the
equivalent or better than time. That's all you gotta do. Hell,
your son won't say you better than time, and he
a junior. Let's be real, man, you're coming, I'm the
wrong way. You what you're doing, where you're going?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know what you're talking about, Bro, I don't
know what you're talking about. I complimented you. I said
you had an outstanding career. I say the tea step
served you well. I just said you weren't Time. That's okay.
If somebody says, you know what, Shannon, you had an
unbelievable career. Shannon, you at the eight Pro Bowl, your
(05:15):
first team All Pro You're an all decade player, You're
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But you ain't Gromp.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, you ain't Travis Kelsey Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But you ain't gonna go no other tight end. Let
me talking about you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Ain't that If you want to say Gromp, if you
want to say Kelsey, Shannon, you not that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I ain't finna fight you. But you ain't gonna go
no more.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You ain't gonna go no more because when I left,
every record that are tied they could have, I had it,
catch it, yards, touchdown, most yards of the game.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Hey, so hold on, I just now that you mentioned
that when it comes when we factoring the numbers and statistics,
does that play any factor in of Sonny's case or
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Just this career he.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Had more, He had more pass breakups and fewer interceptions.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
How many pig sixty did he have? All I know is.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
When I left the game, I had every record that
a tight end coul possibly have. Ain't nobody had them
but me. Now that them came along and broke him.
Gonzo broke them, and Gaze did this, and and Gronk
and this and that. But I don't know. I don't
know why, he madded me. I gave him a compliment. Yeah,
I had, he had an outstanding career.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I said.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The t step for him served him well.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I like I like the convo, I like the dialogue.
I would I would love. I would love, especially for
not the casual fan, but for people that are fans
of the game. I wish we could die a little
bit more. Obviously not here on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm just asking you find the general manager, find the
head coach, find the receiver. Because he talking about he
talking like he was that he back. I guarantee you
when you find somebody that say he'll top ten, a
top ten corner back if we go back and study history,
top ten corner. So we got Time, we got Reeves,
(07:12):
we got Mail Blunt, we got Rod Woodson, we got
Daryl Green, we got a Nils Williams, we got Mail Blunt.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, that's seven right.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There where we Where are we going to put him
in the list of all times and the history of
the NFL? As he's cracking the top ten, that's your
(07:42):
I mean, that's your homeboy heron Florida. I want you
to tell me, you tell me what would you put
him now anywhere. I'm asking you. I just named seven guys.
Which one of those seven guys? You?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Are you putting him in front of?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Uh? Listen, I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, I forgot about Champ Bailey. You put him in
front of Champ.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You ain't answered the question.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Are you putting him in front of Champ Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm listening, Yeah, where would you put him?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I asked you already.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I asked you the question. Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now I'm asking you, where do you ranking?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just asked this matter, simple question. I gave him
seven eight names. He talking about, Well would I rank it?
I ask you, I get it. You're gonna probably bump
into it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Hold on all the time, Hey, hold on, It don't
matter who I bump into.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Okay, well you got it in front of me. But
he addressed you. Where are you asking me the question?
He addressed you, So I'm asking you, what are you
I already said it?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Are you putting He's not in front of Time, He's
not in front of Reavers. He's not in front of
Rod Woodson. He's not in front of Charles Woodson. He's
not in front of Mail Blunt. He's not in front
of Nils Williams. He's not in front of a champ Bailey.
That's seven. That's seven guys. Okay, now you who is
he in front of? Is he top ten all time
into history? Dick Knight, Trey Lane, a mil tunnel.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is here? A hey, uh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Uh, I'm just asking he got all these facts? Who
is he in front of? I'll tell you what. Who
is he in front of of the list that I
just named?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Now you you you name, you name all lord, you
name all time like all time?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He talking like he all times great. That's the problem.
Nobody got a problem with him saying he's not good.
We're talking about he talking about you talk about all
time great? The guy that I listen, he's at the
front of the line. Timon Mayel Blunt Defensive Player of
the Year, Charles Woodson Defensive Player to the Year, Rod
Woodson Defensive Player of the Year. There are a lot
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of guys, but number two one is at the front
of the line. He talking like he in that group,
they are a group. Look, we go into a room
in the Hall of Fame. Okay, we going to a room.
We all into a room. But there are certain guys
at certain tables were in the room. But we're not
(10:32):
at that table. He not even in the room. He
on the outside. Hey, y'all know I played right, Yeah,
but this for big dog.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Keep it a stack. So I will chat.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Y'all tell me of the guys that I listen, who
he better than? I ain't mentioned Pat P, I ain't
Richard Mitchell Sherman yet.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I I just gave y'all a couple of names.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I want you to tell me who he better than
than the list I listed who y'all put him in
front of Chat y'all put him in front of Dion
y'all put him in front of Reavers, y'all put him
in front of Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, h y'all put
him in front of Mail Blunt. Who are y'all putting
Champ Bailey? Who are y'all putting him in front of
(11:21):
Santa Samuel?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Who? Well?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm trying. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see
what the chat talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, I want no, I want you to see what
the chat talking about. You playing against it? What you're
talking about? You played against Charles Woodson, you played against
Fat P, you played against Sharon.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Who are you putting it in front of.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I ain't playing against Sharon, but you know you know
I did. I did. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I didn't a thing everywhere I went. You hear me,
it was like it was like Halloween. If I knock
on the door, I'm coming to get some candy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm asking you a simple question. Of the guys that
that were mentioned, who is he in front of?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And I wouldn't say in front of because you mentioned
you know, the greats, but he has he has the
numbers to be in the room.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I know, I know that much.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And you base everything off numbers when you talk about
let me let me finish before you say anything. When
you talk about mj in comparison to Michael Jordan, when
it comes to the base in any other sport, we
always bring up the numbers, but all of a sudden,
the numbers are ignored.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
When it comes now talking about in comparison and he.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Got got oh the dude got four Pro bowls.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Listen to me. I'm not finished.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Okay, but again, now we we understand. We we we understand.
But when we do a comparison based on greatness, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Tell you what guess everything for coach your former coach
had three Pro Bowls and sixty two picks.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You taking dick lebou Oh what hey?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what you know about?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You just told me? Numbers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I mean that that listen, that's what everything is based
off of, right.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yo, Okay, numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, let's go all pros, let's go Pro bowls, let's
go all decade.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Let's go defensive player of the year. That's part of numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Also, just not.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Picks, okay, Okay, See, I'll look at it like this.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns,
what have you done?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Okay? I see what, I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I thought the job of a corner is to take
away more than you give up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That that's that's a great convo.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who
is he better there than the list I renamed. Now
we're gonna have guess what, Let's have the conversation. Hopefully,
Lord spare both of our our lives, we're able to
have a conversation another ten to fifteen years. Will I'm
gonna I'm gonna need to see a gold jacket on
his back because all the guys that I mentioned I
(14:08):
hate Jalen Ramsey's gonna be coming up. Richard Sherman's gonna
be coming up. Pat P's gonna be coming up. You
see what he trying to do. Oh, it's all about marketing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Bro. You played on the Patriots, Ty Low played on
the Patriots. Ty Long got a red jacket and a
gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So don't do that bull job about marketing if you
who was on TV more than the Patriots?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh Joe, oh, during during that, during that, during that time?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Who yeah, Oh so nine's marketing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Time.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ain't no marketing, bro. Yeah, he marketed himself to know
how to parlay that. But that man on the field.
You better go check the tates. Either you can or
you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
That's a great conversation, bro, that's a that's a good
one now.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh ha, Willie Brown, Mike Haynes. Mike Haynes got nine,
like nine Pro bowls. You better go check.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's a great convo Let me grab me.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Go ahead, Bro, Santae, you have a great career. Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, you good player. You just all I said you
weren't time and you had to get personal. I don't know,
I don't know why. I mean, if you want to
come on Nightcap to get to get your name out there.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You could have did that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Hey, hey, hey, listen, that is a great conbo, broy
you hear me.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's a great What's a great combo?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
This one?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I like this just obviously it's not me as the individual,
but I'm just saying that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Crime. Is he better than Stefan Gilmore?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
At some point, chat, don't y'all wante you to chime
in instead of just talking about this is a great combo.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You say nothing to you? You tell you this is
nightcap unking Ocho. We don't miss each other. We go
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm in chairming it all. I've been chairming it on.
I'm listening to you.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Listen, you see what he listening to me? He and dressed.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He addressed Shannon Sharp. He's sent a long message to
Shannon Sharp. So I'm just listening.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What did he hollo?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Where did he addressed Shannon Sharp? What was Shannon Sharp
speaking on?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
What? On him?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Oh? Night cap night cap unking? Ocho?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right? So is your is your job to answer back?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I get it?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Chat, y'all, see o Cho don't want to chime in?
He for Florida O cho might bump into it. Y'all
know me. I'll give a damn whatever what if he
heard the problem, heard the thing with whatever Shannon Sharp
say on night Cap, Shannon Sharp with if you bed
bumped it? You said player Shannon Sharp is mad enough
to stand on that bro.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You not Tying?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You not Charles Woodson, You not Rod Woodson, You not
Darrell Reevers, You not male Blood, You not Mike Haynes,
You not are Green, You not facts. Now of the
ten guys that I named, mind the coach, find the
receiver that says Sante Samuel is better than any of
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those guys.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
See the way, the way, the way you make it sound,
Oh see you you you're being mean? Oh Yoe and
you and you you see you?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, how you make it sound.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You make it sound like like Buddy was trash or something.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I didn't say he was trash the way.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I'm just saying, the way you talking like you acting
like we just sitting here talking about some just some
old bum we I'm just I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Oh Joe, who could I say?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah? I mean, listen, I played the game. Listen, I
played to be right. Hold let me stay with me,
Stay with me, stay with me real quick.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I played the game on the other side the ball,
so I know I played against Prime, I played against
zunt I have an understanding of both and how good
they were, what they hold on great as Prime was
and how good Zant was. So it's hard for me
to sit here and say, you know the way you're
doing it. When I saw with my own eyes, I understand.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
How great Prime is.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But then I know what that young boy was doing
as well.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
When he was playing.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
All I said, I said he was good.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I said he was a very good player, had an
unbelievable career. He used the technique. He used the technique
that time doesn't approve of two things can be true, yes, sir, okay,
some guys like to play press and open the gate.
(18:57):
Some guys like the press and put hands, whatever technique
works for you. But he was talking as if he
was the equivalent, because he posted his stats in Time Stats, saying,
look at our stats, right, So he's posting those stats
as if he's the equivalent, and I said he's not.
(19:17):
I didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said
he went the Pro Bowls. I think he was an
All pro. I know he won Super Bowls in New England.
That's what I said, right. He took offense that I
didn't co sign him. I don't need no marketing. I
don't need to co sign. I think everybody's known. I
(19:38):
didn't have an opportunity to critique time when he played
when he went back for those two years, because he
was mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay,
that's fine, But I've never had a problem critiquing any player.
I critique Tom Brady, hating Manny. You name a player
(19:58):
ray Lewis received t o Randy. I've never had a
problem critique it because I'm basing it on my knock,
intimate knowledge of the game and film study. When I
was at CBS. I would watch film. How many times
when I was at CBS or Fox. When you ever
heard a guy called tell about Shanny shop don't know
what the hell he talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, that ain't happen.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
See what y'all try to do? Well, you're doing this.
That's not what I said. No, No, I never said
I've never see the differences SKIP tried to say.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I said I was better than Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I said Tom Brady wasn't playing well, why would I,
as a tight end, compare myself.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
To a quarterback? Okay, right, right right, I would need to.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Compare myself to grump, to Kelsey or a tight end.
That's the only way you can get an equivalent. I said.
I said, yeah, a Sante had a great career, Pro Bowl,
Super bowls Now, God like I said, you want to say, Shallna,
(21:08):
you ain't trapped, you ain't grown. You're right, You're right,
you got me, right, you got me. But I'm I'm
just confused. But look, bro, you I gave her many.
(21:28):
I gave you fifteen minutes of fame, fame that you
never would have got had you not mentioned me or time.
Enjoy it. Now go back to your solitary life. Nobody's
gonna win. Were the last I tell you? What about Joe?
When was the last time prior to last night, when
was the last time you heard somebody Minchell Sante, Samuel,
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Take your time, I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna get
me some water. Take you time, chat, y'all keep on
your interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Hey anyway, chat, we're back. His lovepset, his love set.
Other than that, it's great conversation. I like it. I
like the dialogue. I like the back and forth. I
like players also. We always talk about having a belief,
having not only a belief in what you can do
(22:21):
and what you've already done, and bring it to the forefront,
bring it to the forefront, and supporting what it is
you've done in comparison to someone else who is also great.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Now, a lot of people won't see it that way
as you can see it, including one thing I've.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Always do see is.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
If you were bad at what you do, then I
will always come out and say that. But I played
against both and I understand how good both were. I
understand how great Prime was, obviously catching him on the
tail end of his career and obviously playing against Sante
doing his prime, and understanding how good he was, how
much of a student of the game he was.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And what I'm not going to do is diminish what
I was able to see for years while I.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Was playing and understanding watching film here and understand how
good he was and how savvy was technically, you know.
So it's different coming from someone that actually played on
the opposite side and understand how good he was, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
So it's hard to see it to say, oh he'd not.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Been whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I had to go against this. I had to go
against that for years.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So it's different.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's different, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's especially and a lot of a lot of people
in the chat of some of the comments on Twitter,
on x whatever it may be, their feelings are always
different as well, because it's based off who you know
and what they've done.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Hey, that was good.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I just asked you a simple question. Proud of last
night and today. When was the last time you heard
somebody mentioned a Sante Samuel.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I be on Nightcap every time I tied end make
a record? Who record? They see her there? The most
one hundred and fifty yard games, the more lost, this
the most that every Sunday in the NFL season on
the tight end does something? Who name is up there?
When they have them names? He just passed this one.
Who name is also up there?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Ojo? O jo? Don't worry about ojo.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Hey, Chad, all I try to do I try to,
you know, try to go back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But ohoe, you know O chose like, Hey.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We did, we did go back and forth. That was
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Though.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Now, no, you you laughing. I'm saying for real, that
was a good one. I don't that was a That
was a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
While we'll wait, there's some people that have some words
for you. For me, Chris Carter had some words for
Ojoe last week. He said that points, Oh yep, he
said there were points in Chad's career that you had
to go out there and tell him what to do
because he couldn't get over to save his life.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
He couldn't get over against average guys.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns one time in its
eleven years. I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times.
Scored in the football. Is the number one player at
the receiver. No, I was not a burner. I ran
four to six four six five. But he can do
it every single day, can do it for four quarters
and the consistent at it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Oh cho, you know what that get?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Child? Please? I don't know what. I don't. I'm just
trying to take out.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I have a question before you even go, what the
hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay, you
scored double dinit touchdowns? Okay, cool? You want a cookie?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What brought this on.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
You had a conversation, have you have you have you
had a conversation with CC?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No, I don't ain't no, I don't need to have
a question, so right, I heard Also he said, well,
he only had double digit touchdowns one season, so he's
not a Hall of Famer. But does that mean Julio
Jones not a Hall of Famer either? Because Julio Jones
only had double digit touchdowns one season?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You have?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You have dumb?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You had dumbn That sounds yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Sometimes I listen to things and and everyone's situation is different,
you know, everyone's situation different.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean so stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I paid no mind because everything is predicated off numbers
and based on what they did, based on other people's.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Situations were different. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Obviously where I was, I did the best I could,
but the cards I was dealt and I did one
hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what
you did. I don't care not about your numbers. It
don't make it, don't make me none. Why is my
name even being brought up?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I don't know why it was brought up. I don't because,
like I said, O yo, I don't really listen to
anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,
you know, to try to make our podcast better than
what it is, and I got so I'm trying to
get guessed and I'm going with the bookers like Okay,
who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.
(27:15):
So I don't really have time to pay attention. But
it just kept popping up, not only on it kept
popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on
the internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I said, did o Cho say something about him? Or what?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
What? For? One? You know, I don't talk about people.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, we definitely don't talk about people that do what
we do never and you know, I don't talk about nobody,
you know.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
But you know, congratulations and everything he said, Happy, Happy
for you Chris Card and your double digit touchdowns and
your Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I love you. I wish you con continue success and
whatever it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is you got going on. Baby, I know what we're
doing over here, though I know, I know, I know,
I know why I'm going.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm going maybe he wanted you to respond, and.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I did respond. I just said I love him.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think
maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way.
And I got First of all, you got kids, I
got kids, I got grand kids.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I'm not Finn. Go look what we did. We did.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I can't he can't go back and score no more touchdowns.
You can't go back and score no more touchdowns. I
can't scoring over touchdowns. We're right here.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Oh man, yes, you're doing that. No great job, o.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man, I'm still scoring touchdowns in life.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He said we played. I don't care about that. I'm
scoring double double digit touchdowns right now.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sure, come on.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Now, you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where
I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I hear what you said. I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught
up and talk about what we used to do.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, what you're doing now, talk to me, what you're
doing now?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We were all great at once upon a time in
our own right, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know you did what you did. I think CC
played sixteen seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Wait, how many how many he played?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sixteen?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
How many I played?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know, hell you played? I think you played
level of twelve?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Did you elevel? How many a YA played? Eleven? He
played sixteen? How many? How many yars you got?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Man? Look here, I'm just I'm just asking.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm just trying.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm trying to get a better understand how many yars
you got?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't ask ask ask how many yards does the
CC have?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But okay, the chance said, CC snapped because he was
pissed at Ocho for saying that he could beat Travis
in a one on match up ten out of ten times.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Why is he worried about?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Bro, We just be joking when we say stuff, man,
it ain't that sad.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do
the same thing with everybody. Just you do?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You just play?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
As Sid said, Oh Joe, can you not challenge everybody
that come on here? O?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You everybody that come on here can get that work?
He hit me and Travis.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Hutick below fourteen thousand yards. He had thirteen thousand, eight
hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
So he played fifteen season sixteen, I think sixteen, and
he got well thirteen thousand yards almost fourteen thousand. Okay,
so he plays fifteen sixteen, he only got three thousand
more yards than me and played five more season I
had eleven. I guess yeah, Okay, okay, I'm just trying
to get a better understanding on why. Okay, cool anyway,
(30:46):
But like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, uh,
I had the utmost confidence in my ability and being
able to do any and everything. That's something that a
lot of people in this world lack. Even if you
feel you can't do it, you have to feel you
can because everything starts up here in the mind. So
everybody that comes up here in regards to what sports
they player, whatever it is that they do, I feel
(31:07):
I can beat them. And if you feel, if you
fear you can beat me doing at what you do best,
whatever it may be, you're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass
up right now about what he did.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Huh he's sixty. What that means?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
He talking like he still got it. Get out here,
get on the field, line it up with you. I'll
lock your ass up too.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
We got a pose. That's what we got. So we
breathe it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We walk in, we get up out of bed with
our right mind, blood running warm about veins.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
On.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So this is the thing about it. One thing about
the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had,
is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what
it should looked like.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Uncle, I'm not there with McLees and my shoes on
what out there running full speed.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I still got it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You hit me.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it's one thing.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know
whether exit and those, and you have a receiver coach
that actually never played, never really played the game. They
just know the game based on paper and what it
should look like. Yeah, Like, I'm not there running the
routs with you. I'm not only just I'm not telling
you what it should look like. I can actually display
it and show you. Boy, this is this is picasso.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, I will say this, love. I've known CC a
long time. His brother and I used to hang wet
to the Super Bowls and stuff. I would just say this, CC, No,
when the man joke it, he wasn't that serious.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No, CC, I love you, baby, but putting them clease on,
put them clease on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I put these two hands in your chest. Why you
won't catch shit?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Pat, You're one of the stories that we're about to
talk about. Nine is really upsetting to me. X NFL
quarterback Travon Boykin said Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson's mansion felt
weird because none of his family was around. Let's take
a listen what Boykin had to say with.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yo, yes, Sir Russell Wilson, I went to his house
for Thanksgiving, the weirdest feel like he catered so no,
you know, like, bro, I come from a traditional country
black family doing that. If I got as much money
as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me
so bad. If I ain't fly everybody out there for
thanks Getting and I'm sponsored by airline.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Maybe maybe he's not close to his family.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
And maybe maybe he not, but his mama would nerve
sisters wordner you know what I'm saying, Like, even even
though like it's still works me. I'm just even even
if you don't fool with your family, like, it's still
works me. On Thanksgiving, My family gonna do the food.
This is what we're gonna if you the one with
the money, were coming to your house, so to get
(33:53):
over there and ketch. Russell Wilson like him is literally
him Sierra Sierra, Dad Me, nooney, baby Future, the self
in two nannies and three dogs and baby Future at
(34:14):
that time was bad as hell.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Hey, I got a question, mpe I got answer for
you too. Why is he sharing information anyway?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because see that's what not chat.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Now you see why I don't have a whole lot
of mofos at my house. See, he worried about somebody
else family, your black ass there. He invited you. He
looked at you like family and what you do dial
the mouth? You think you said it ten or something. Man,
I went to russell house, that mansion.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, because he had an outside of end there. That
was the weird part about it. That's why you don't
let people come to your house a chat nobody. First
of all, No, me and my brother had money.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Guess what. Thanksgiving always at Granny's.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
House, even though we couldn't get back, it was always
going to be there. We had a big ass cookout
on you guess where it was? In Granty's backyard.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Look, I don't get it. I'm confused. Why is everybody
always looking for a moment? Why is everybody always looking
for this a moment to go viral or to get
your little fifteen minutes? He lets you into his home
on Thanksgiving, a special day. Okay, if the family wasn't there,
maybe they don't get it along, maybe they don't see
the eye to eye. I mean, just I don't don't
(35:40):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't get it either. O Ye, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
His family wasn't there, but you was there. But you
take this opportunity now years later to talk about it
because russ ain't been in Seattle for a long period
of time, right, and now you bring this up because
you try to Oh guess who was there? Uh Sierra Daddy,
Uh nooney baby, future the chef. For the most part,
(36:11):
I have a get together. I'm catering it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I just don't get bro. I don't get that. Why
you put this man, this man invited you into his home.
You telling what what's happening inside this man home? That's
why see and people are man? You anti social, No
I'm a people running their damn mouth. Ain't nobody that
man invited you into his home, Oh, Joe, I guarantee
(36:40):
you Russe. Rusto invited a whole lot of people into
his home for the most part, and say, Russell, stand offish.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
He invited you, invited your ass into his home. And
the things that he gets, no good deed goes unpunished.
This is the things he gets, Oh, Lady Rose that now, see,
Rob Rush, don't f with a whole lot of people.
I'm sorry Rush that you had to find out the
whole hard way that some ninjas ain't ish.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And that's that's messed up.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And he thinks he said something on Yoe. He got
his hand caught to the side. He swear, he's just like, oh,
these nuclear codes. Let me tell you what's going on.
He let me tell you about the agreement that the
Ukraine is about to sign with the Russia.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He had like he give me some information like that.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, talking to that man, that's messed up. Damn.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I don't worry about what somebody in somebody relationship is
with their family. That ain't got nothing to do with
me at all. I don't know what his family done
to him. I don't know what he's done to them.
I don't know, but for whatever reason they weren't there.
It doesn't bother me because guess where I'm at. I'm here, right,
(37:55):
I'm gonna eat. I don't worry if I go somewhere
on Yoe, I'll be God as to God on his
true I don't worry about.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Who's not there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I concerned myself with who's here. Okay, man invited me in. Okay,
I've been invited to places. Ain't nobody know, right, I
ain't take no pictures. I ain't tell nobody if they
(38:25):
didn't wanted. If they done wanted people to know, they'd
have told who they wanted to know, and they'd have
been there.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
They ain't mentioned nothing about me because I slept here
and slept out the back door. But there's some this,
some bullji chat. I don't care. Y'all can't convince me
that this is this. Oh he should, oh you know
that man just telling No, this man has got no
business telling what that man got going on his house.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
If he had four dogs sitting at the table, that's
his table, and he invited your ass.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
In and you, yeah, we shouldn't know that. Honestly, we
shouldn't know anything about that at all. That's that's that's
personal information. It's personal.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And didn't, oh Joe, and to make it guess what
he did. And at that time, baby future.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Was Now you're talking about the now you talking about
the baby too.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
The kids, for the most part, you get kids, they're
gonna be a certain you know, they don't want to
have to sit down. Maybe he doesn't know why eat
your food? Okay, that's that's a part of having a kid.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Maybe he doesn't have kids, he doesn't understand. They're all bad.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
They're all bad. Oh, oh, Joe, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
For the most part, the more money you have, the
more likely when you have an event, it's gonna be catered.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Right, That's just the way it is. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Now, some people, Hey, some people, they mom and their
grandma say, baby, I want to cook. Okay, granted you
ain't got to, No, baby, I want to do it.
I know if I had something big for my family, Oh,
it's getting catered.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I ain't cooking nothing.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
As a matter of fact, the only time the oven
in the store gonna be turned on, do we heat
some issue.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Well, honestly, you know that the women normally do all
the cooking.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But I'm just saying, o Jo, if you look and
he was, imagine it wasn't nobody there. It should have
been one minus one. Your ass shouldn't have been there. Yeah,
see here, ain't nobody ask you that? That's crazy? I
don't know why, why that's messed up? I just don't
(40:52):
get why why would he do that?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
O yo?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, let me ask you a question. Why you didn't
take you up puncast to your family? Since were talking
about family, where was your family?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
M Obviously this was on a podcast. In order to
do a podcast, you have to ask him.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
He wasn't on no podcast when he's ass was in
Russell Wilson house. So he's talking about Russ's family wasn't there?
Where was his family? You in the NFL? So clearly
you got money. Why didn't you find your family in
you worried about whatever? And he sponsored by airline? Why
you counting that man?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Pockets and hell they got to do it anything.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I still want to know where was your family?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Your mom, your dad, your aunties, your uncles, your family,
your brothers, where were they.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I don't know. You talk about what Russell didn't have
it his.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, he said, I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
So he invited you to his house. So clearly they
thought you were going to be alone.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, And we thought you We thought you was cool.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
You probably didn't have family to go to for a
Thanksgiving and were welcome with open arms.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
There been a many of Thanksgiving by myself when I
was in Denver. O. Yo, I go to the seven eleven,
get them sandwiches that you're putting the microwave, and take
my black ass home.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm cool with it. I call it a day.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
One time, I'm trying to think who house did I
went to. I think maybe Burns. I think Burns was
the only place. Maybe. I think Monica. I think Reggie,
who was a tight end of Denver. I think Monica
cooked one year and I went over there. But for
the most part on you all by myself, and I
was cool with that. Hey, and then my teammates with invitement. Hey, sharp,
(42:52):
I know you're gonna be by yourself. You want to
come over, man, I'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You'll never go, But I don't go.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't go to people house. The one time I did.
I did go to somebody's house and I had to
tell you about it. Yeah, but I would never go
to somebody house and talk about what wasn't there. Man,
you and you you thought of me, thought enough of
me to invite me into your place. And then I'm
gonna give a podcast and try to dump on you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, that's crazy, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Gonna dump on I'm gonna dump on your son, talk
about Oh he was bad.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
That's crazy. You're looking for that moment.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I just hate that, man. I hate that. Russ don't
bother nobody. You could, you could, You can like or dislike,
but he don't. Really, he don't bother nobody. He ain't
out there talking about nobody. The man found somebody that
made him happy. At the end of the day. He
and Sierra. I'm on the outside. Oh you're just like
everybody else. But it seems like they have a really
good marriage. Yeah they have ups and down. Yeah they
(43:56):
have disagreements. That's what the marriage is. Marriages work. Did
you shut you don't get the job? Oh, Joe, just like, Okay,
that's it. No, you have to work. I'm marriage. You
get into a relationship. Everything is chumming. But you have
to work every day, and I get that, but for y'all,
for for people to try to take a shot into
the man in his house. If you want to say,
you see me walking down the street and you say
(44:16):
that man he speak to me, you can say you
know what he's and I do.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm not you know, I'm on the plane. No Joe,
I got my head set on and people trying to talk,
and I just come put this very reason, you see, ojomhmm?
You see yeah, how you start carrying on conversations. Yeah,
I talked to him. Oh he told me all this stuff.
I talked to him for hours. And see how you
now you see why?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
O Joe? Now you see why?
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, I just I've never been able to do that.
Anything I do, it always stays in house.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yes it should. It always stays in house.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
And there.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
It's definitely it's definitely not for the public. That that's
that's that's a no.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
No, oh Joe, you go to somebody house, I ain't
even a don't ask me. I don't know, man, what
was such and such thing?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Man, I was just there yesterday. Oh man, you don't
give up Nobody intel like that. Man, the man invited
you in. If somebody is nice enough to invite you in,
the last thing you do is to try to paint
them in a negative light.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, and what's the point.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What's the point? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
There's not there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
There's nothing they want. Maybe they wanted to Maybe they
wanted to celebrate on their own. Maybe they didn't want
to fly away out of Seattle. Where's Russ is from Virginia?
Right he from That's he from the East Coast, isn't he.
Maybe they didn't want to fly away to Seattle to
take a six hour plane ride right.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah, I don't get it. Man,
I am so sorry. I was, man, I was listening.
I was listening to this old show.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And the more he talked, it was he wasn't he
talking about me? The more he talked, And like my
grandma to say, boy, the more you talk, the matter
I get.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I mean it just lets you oh Jo bad, I swear,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
How you go to somebody house? Man, you know who
house I was at yesterday? Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
I wouldn't even let that information out, thank you, Let
alone on the show.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
No, come on, man, oh Lord.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Have mercy. Man Russ, I am so sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
All than that, Russe A handful of times I made
him in his rookie Cason had a great conversation with him.
You can tell that he was serious about he was
serious about football. Asked a bunch of question, just man,
how do you win the Super Bowl? What was John Lway?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Like? What did y'all do you know? Y'all close? What
was y'all this?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Asked a bunch of questions.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, yeah, we As a matter of fact, it was
at the Super Bowl in New Orleans when the forty
nine Ers played.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
The Ravens. That was his rookie season.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh where where everything went out?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
We remember the lights went out, lights went out, Yeah,
that's where it was, man, Russ, I'm sorry, Bro, I'm sorry. Hey,
these guys getting the way they talked. Real house husbands.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, but the housewives they know these hugs, the.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Real house husbands.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah. Oh. Joe Jackson.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Dark will start Week thirteen against the Patriots, have to
share classic tribute to its former head coach Brian Dabas.
Dark said, Obviously, there's been a lot happened since I've
been up here. And I just want to acknowledge that
coach dav and all he did for me. When I
look back on everything, it's really special to come to
a place where a coach genuinely cares about you and
loves you, and you have that personal relationship on and
(48:18):
off the field. I just have all the respect in
the world for him. Oh, Joe, I don't know, have
you ever had a coach fired during the season?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
No, no, mm hmm. You know I was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
I mean that Mike Brown, and that's not that's not therefore.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
It No, Mike Brown, I ain't want to play nobody that
you're not working for me, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Gonna pay you. And I got a guy actually coaching.
I gotta pay him too.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
No, I mean I haven't had a coach as fired
during the season, but obviously I haven't had coaches fired
after the season. And it's tough. It's tough, especially when
you build up a relationship. You go like coach Reeds.
Coach Reed drafted me. He was really smart to draft me,
but he was I don't know what he's lost to
bump his head because he forgot to cut me. Wade
Phillips came in after Coach Reeves and brought Jim Fossil
(49:13):
and arrest his soul who built his offense around.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
A tight end when that was unheard of.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
So when those guys I mean, and I kept a
relationship with Coach Reeves kept a relationship with Wade Phillips,
and I see Wade is just like because I owe
a lot of my starting to Wade, because Wade was
a defensive coordinator in Denver and told Coach reed to
put me in the game.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Wade did that.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Put him in there.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Coach Reeves drafted me and believed in me and say, son,
you can you can play in this league.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
He said, I've played in this league. I've coached in
this league. You can play. You got what it takes
to play in this league. He believed in me.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Put a couple of players in there day when I
when I got in there, say I'm gonna call this
play off. This play is just for you. He called
the play for me, and I fed it up. How
you f up your plate?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
If you mess up a play that's really not intended
for you, but you're gonna get the ball.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I get so happy.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Man, I get so happy, or I get so I
get so amped up about your I.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Forget everything, forget everything.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
I did. Man, I get so hyped. Man I just
I just like I'm just panted.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
But uh yeah, it's tough because this is what Jackson
Dark knows. Brian dave Ball personally selected him. He wanted
Jackson darkbacks.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
The quarterback that he wanted. He wanted Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
And I think Jackson Dark needs to understand one thing,
o't yoe.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I understand you tough and.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It gets the crowd going and a nice your team,
but you're not finna make no living running over those trying.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
To run people over.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Yeah, no, eat driven, driven, somebody, somebody gonna somebody gonna
get to him.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Who they already got to it. The mystery he did
a miss three games with a concussion.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah, but you know I he had headed.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
He young.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
He ain't gonna listen.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's gonna somebody gonna catch him clean and he'll be like,
you know what the same for me. Let me stay
behind my computer, let me stay behind my camera and
do what I need to do from there
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