October 10, 2025 • 55 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson give you the Best of NFL Week on Nightcap! Unc and Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders’ uncertain QB status after the Browns traded Joe Flacco to the Bengals, discuss Chiefs star Chris Jones’ lack of effort on Trevor Lawrence’s game-winning drive, and more!
0:00 - Joe Flacco traded from Browns to Bengals20:55 - Shedeaur Sanders status after Flacco trade35:42 - Chris Jones addresses lack of effort
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Joe Flacco. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But not for the Cleveland Browns, for your Cincinnati Bengals.
He will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach
Zach Taylor announced sixth Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra
division trade Tuesday. They set a twenty twenty sixth fifth
round draft pick to the Browns in exchange for Flacco
and a twenty twenty six sixth round draft pick. This
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is how rare sin I think in this century. Only
twice as it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew
Bledsoe to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan
McNabb to the Washington They were not the commanders at
the time, you know what they were. But he got
traded intra division. So only three times at a quarterback
that I can think of a trade like this going down.
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Jake brown Here's Ojoe, Here's Jake Browning. Who you said
was gonna lead y'all to where y'all needed to go
on his demotion. Yeah, okay, let's run down. Let's run
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down what happened. Joe Flacco was traded, Ojo's guy wasn't
being able to Jake Browning was not being able to
hold up to it because what was supposed to happen.
Your backup is supposed to be able to keep you
afloat until your starter comes back. That's what a backup
is supposed to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati
being was like, look, we've got a lot of money
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invested in Chase and Higgins, and we gave fourteen more
million dollars to a trade Hendrickson, so we need to
try to maximize this. We can't just give up on
the season because our quarterback is not fulfilling his obligation,
which is the key of the float to if and win. Joe,
excuse me, Joe Burrow came back. Doesn't look like that
was happening, and so they made the move. So Cleveland
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said Joe Flacco and the twenty twenty sixth sixth round
draft pick and returns. The Bengals send them a twenty
twenty six fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We got it loaded. Now we're getting it right for
you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
How Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the
starter to now being the backup in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I'm trying to respond the right way. Obviously, I'm pissed.
And if I wasn't pissed, then I shouldn't be in
this locker room. And it's important to me. And you know,
I'm aware of the role I played and the offensive
struggles over the last few weeks. And you know, but
I'm also on my shouldering the entire situation. And uh,
you know, I went through yesterday watch my throws, tried
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to come up with some stuff that I want to
work on, and she's stilling not.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oko the thing a quarterbacks supposed to do. Say look
it's on me, I did not play. Don't say I'm
not going to shoulder all of the blame. We know
you all the blame is not on you, But in
that moment, when you're in front of the camera as
the leader of that offense, you say, look, that's on me.
I didn't play well enough to get the job done.
So I understand why the Bengals made that decision. If
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and when my time comes back up, I'll be more prepared.
And I promise you Bengals fans, this organization, my teammates,
I won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Take off on Joe Iran. Listen.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Obviously, most of the time in that situation as a
quarterback being the face, being that Joe Burrow is absent,
you have to take on this. You have to take
all that on your shoulders because you are at the quarterback,
because much is expected of you once you were at
that position, and you are the one who handles the
ball the most outside of everyone else. With that being said,
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you look at our team and where we are right now,
we're two and three. We still have time to be
able to salvage the season. I think them continue with
to stick with Jake Browning based on the last two
performance that we've seen, it would have been malpracticed by
the coach. I think Zach Taylor might be on the
hot seat. Yeah, listen, it's not funny because this is
a serious matter. This is not a laughing matter for us.
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The fans are impatient. I'm inpatient. I think upstairs they're
also in patient because they've invested money in that office.
In line, they're investing money in Joe Burrow. They invested
money in Tea and Jamar Chase and another especially offensively
in general, and they want to see a return on
that investment. Correct, Joe Burrow's down, Joe Burrows down, Next
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man up? The next man up is not playing well
at all. So we're two and three right now. We
do want to do We want to get someone else
who is a veteran presence that has won a Super Bowl.
Maybe they can come in and steer the ship to
keep it from sinking, similar to like the Titanic. We
don't want to hit the iceberg. So can Joe Flacco
come in and steer the ship and dodge a few icebergs? Now,
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we might, we might sink a little bit, but we
don't want to just go all the way goddamn under.
I'm going to see what can happen. It all starts
with number one. We have a gun slinger at the
quarterback position that has a hell of a arm, but
he's not mobile. Uncle Joe Jake Browning was mobile, and
he was running for his life, yes, away from my
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offensive line. If you guys do see this, I beg
of you. I implore you to raise your level of
play for us offensively to have any success moving forward,
starting right now this week against that Packers defense.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Garrett oh Wyatt, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
My Bengals officsive line. We need to set the tone.
We need we need to set the tone. All five
of you. Orlando Brown, come on, baby, you got to
come to the party. Brother Memes, you got to come
to the party. Right guard, left guard, Tared Carris, we
got to come to the party. As we go, as
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the officer line goes, our team goes. The game of
football is one up fronts won in the trenches, and
for us to continue to continue to compete not only
the FC North, but the NFL in general for the
rest of the season, we have to win upfront. That's
what it starts with. If we went up front, everything
else becomes easy. Offensively.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I can tell looking at the chat that there are
not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking
to obsacagate Blaine. If you go look at just look
at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen Hurts, watch
out when they lose a game, how he talks with
Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose. Look how
they talk. Don't talk about I don't shoulder all the blame.
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You said this on me. I need to play better,
and I will. I understand why the organization did what
they did because I wasn't getting the job done. If
and when I get another opportunity, Oh Joe. The only
reason he's on the roster is that when Joe Burr
got hurt last time, he did a well enough job.
And say, you know what, we got a backup. If
Joe goes down for three to four weeks. We got
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a guy that can hold it in the road for us.
We have a self driving car. Been seeing a lot
of self driving cars late and I'm like, hold on,
I saw the car driving around, Oh Joe. I'm looking
at him, soide.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I said, hold wait a minute, ain't nobody.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Driving and stop if somebody got out, I said, I
heard people talk about it, O Joe, but that's my
first time seeing what right?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that's what That's what Jake Browning was. He was
a self driving card, like man Joe out. Jake got this.
We saw him against Jacksonville. You remember that Thursday night game,
Oh Joe against Jacksonville. Yeah, he played well. That's what
gave you the confidence to say what you were saying,
because you had seen him in moments like this. Yes,
rise to the occasion, play extremely well. I don't know
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what happened, because here's the thing on Yoe, Expectations are
the number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations.
Because see it's easy. And I tell guys all the time,
I say, you know what, the easiest thing I ever
did was make the Pro Bowl because nobody was expecting it. Now,
guess what happens when they build a game plan around
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you and the defense build a game plan to stop you.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Heait, hold on, stay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right there, because I know you for the cook. Hold
on now, hold on because let me tell you something.
I I got my penny pad. Now I know you
fin the cook. Go ahead now.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So that's what happens, Oh Joe, see you see what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Expectations Jake Brownie had immis expectations.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Why o, Joe?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Because the Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations even though Joe
Burrow's down. They believe, Man, we have enough offensively to
right this ship until Joe gets back. We got changed,
We got the best receiving in football. We believe we
got another top fifteen receiving football. We got a guy
that can run the ball. There ain't no reason for
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us to be scoring three points, ten points, be down
thirty four to three going into the fourth quarter with
the offensive weapons that we got.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So now the expectations and you feel that living up,
Oh Joe, it was easy your kids. See, your kids
got expectations. You never had your.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Dad on Yo sinko. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The Pro bowlers, the one that's on night Cap, Yeah,
now they got expectations.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You didn't have to deal with your mom.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Your people were like they might say, oh you Hurricane Paul, leave.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Paul lettersn.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But now you put so much expectations on your kids
because see, only people in the neighborhood knew your You
knew your mom, knew your grandma. You're a worldwide commodity.
They see that last name, they say, hold on, what's
your relationship? Oh Joe, that's my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's your dad.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Now what you play, when you play, what you're doing,
you do so what you do in sports, but you
want to be when you grow up. Now you see
Jake Brown and had those expectations with that offense. He
was supposed He wasn't supposed to be Joe Burrow. He
was just supposed to be that self driving car. To
keep it in the road.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, you just.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Don't crash, that's all you gotta do something. I don't
even need you to win this race. Just get the
car around the track and don't crash. Keep it in
first gear.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
See I told you it was Finn to cook because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
See I already know what's gonna happen when you get
the fourth You need to burn the clutch out and
you're gonna script the gear.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What you're gonna do with your what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hold on now, hold on, I don't need you to
win the race. I just need you to get the
car around the track. But that's a bar.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Uh, get it around the track. That's a bar.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You didn't even understand I did.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Let me write this down. Hold on now, or you cooking?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What? God damn?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
But you need to be a pastor.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hey, I don't need Jake. I don't need Jake. You
think we need you to be fifteen and two? Right?
Get us the ten? Can you can you get us
the level?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Can you keep us can you get us the ten
and seven? Get us the ten and seven? Ten and seven,
might be, might be something, might be something we can
look at.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, look that's what.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The Texans one and four, the Titans one and four. Okay,
they got two teams in that division are playing really well.
You got the AFC South, you got the Jags and
you got the Coats.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
They cutting up, they cutting up, they cutting up. It's funny.
Two of the teams that are always three and four
now one and two battling with a chance to win
that division in the AFC South. Well obviously, well, let
me take that back, because when Peyton Manny was there,
they dominated the for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Let me just said, as of recent it hasn't been
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, no, no, no, no no. Basically since Andrew Luck
left it hadn't been like that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hey, listen, I'm excited. You think about what we are too.
As a Bengo fan, I'm sure we have some Bengo
fans in the chat, and just fans of football in
the chat in general. You think about us and wh
we are right now. We at the bottom. We at
the bottom. There's nowhere else, there's no other place we
can go, but up from this point based on what
we saw last week, that's only one place we can go.
We got Flack over there. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What choice do you have? Yo?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Right, and then and a lot of people. You got
some people obviously hear some Bago fans. Oh why we
go get Joe Flack? Oh there were no viable options?
It's about but why didn't we get anybody who would run?
Why we ain't get anybody mobile? Who's out there?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That is the back exactly?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
This ain't this, ain't mad. This is real life. This
is real life. What we need is not like quarterbacks
are like goddamn apple tree. You just go pick when
you want to replace the next one. That is one
of the reasons why it's so difficult to not only
find a quarterback, but find a transcending generational talent like
a Joe Burrow. You can't replace it. No, you can't
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replace the Lamar Jackson if he's injured, as you can
see with the Ravens struggling. You can't replace a goddamn
Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But can we get can we get to Carson Wentz?
Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the
Minnesota Vikings until JJ McCarthy comes back, because he's making
hard on Kevin O'Connell to put JJ McCarthy ass back
in the ball game considering how well he's actually playing
since JJ McCarthy's been out more touchdowns, your interceptions, that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Look in this situation, you're not gonna make it difficult
for them not to. Joe Burrow asked back in there,
he's making far too much money and he's a far
superior quarterback to what you are.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But with that being.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Said, bro, you gotta this is how bad is This
is how bad Jake Browning is. His qb are is
actually higher than Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But when you desperate, don't yo ay.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Somebody say, man, look if one aspirin, if if if
two aspirin kill clean, uh will clear your head? You'll
you won't have a headache. And say an hour well
and and and that's what Jared Crowns Jered Ryan's Doris
asked Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But it's a true analogy. You know, one as take
two aspirins.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Uh pasionship subside subside in a couple of hours. What
if I take ten, it's probably gonna kill you. And
he asked, Mike, would you take ten? He said, well,
how bad is my headache?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams
do desperate things. This was a desperate move because your actuality.
The quarterback that you have starting is actually playing better
than the quarterback you're replacing him with. But let when
you see it. When you get desperate on your when
you get desperate, you make desperate decisions. You don't think clearly,
you don't see clearly. All I know is that my
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guy isn't playing well. Well, let's grab that guy. You
do realize that guy got bnched? Also, yes, I can
see if you got it. Hey, I want to trade
for your starter. No, you traded for a guy that
got bitched.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Can I say something, Yes, we traded for a guy
that got benched, obviously, But the guy that got benched
that's coming to the Bengals has a much better supporting
cast around him right now, for now. Again, the one
issue I did say, because the spike coming, the spike
coming here to a much better supporting cast. If that
front four or that front five when it is five,
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don't do what they need to do. They not and
be a wall for two seconds. Give me a wall
for two. Two seconds, that's all I need. Give me two.
If you can give me two, we can do.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Something with one. In five.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you better, you better keep a Flacco in the
shotgun because they're gonna take him longer than three.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's getting his drop back better.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, that's fine, that's fine. We canna put him back
there in the shotgun process so we can already process.
He can see what's in front of them right away,
and it doesn't take him that much long to get
that ball out. And you know one thing about flack
O boy, he got an arm one him.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh he could throw it. Now, he can make He
can still make all the throws. Now he's gonna throw
Chasing Higgins about three. Now, he gonna throw the other
the team about two. Now, it's just a matter whether
they're gonna catch him or not. Because he gonna give everybody.
He's an equal opportunity employer. He believed, he believes in
d I diversity, equality inclusion. So he gonna diversify touchdown
the interception. He gonna makes the quality and he gonna
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include the defense and what the hell he doing. So
I'm just letting y'all know, a Bengo fans, you are listen,
you remember him when he was at there the Ravens.
You remember him when he was at Cleveland. You already know,
and you just he's got a glimpse of it earlier
this year, so you know who and what he is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Think you're gonna get twenty twelve playoff Flaco, that is
he would never ever able to replicate. He could never
really put a regular season together like he could. Those
playoff runs, Oh Joe, he had some of the great
playoff runs.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
A crazy work in the playoffs, crazy work. But again,
you think about what he had offensively with the Ravens,
even back then, with that playoff run he did that
run Hill, I could just I honestly, I can honestly
say throughout his entirety of his career, he ain't never
had nothing like he got Worker.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He had a better offensive line, but he didn't have
You know, I'm trying to think who was his running
back back then.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I don't even remember who's running back was.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I know a Kwan Bowler was one of the receiverswenty
seven Ray Rice.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yes, I believe so, Okay, I believe so yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But I think the thing is, O Joe, he's gonna
need time to throw. Like you said, he doesn't have mobility.
He's not a guy that you can move. I mean,
are you gonna move the pocket with him? You can't
zone read with him, I mean you're limited. Basically, Hey,
O Joe, he's a drop back. He's a prototypical seventies
eighty drop back quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
He's kinda like these quarterbacks that we have today, all
the quarterbacks, they are slightly mobile, some more than noble
or others.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But oh Joe, he is what he is than you.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean listen, even Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson.
Joe Burrow ain't God Damn Josh Allen, but his ability
to manipulate the pocket, yeah, field pressure and being able
to escape it and make throws down the field is
second to none. He's really good at escaping the pocket
despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks
that just name are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well
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and the owners. It all comes down to the office
line yeah, and as they go, the better they play,
the better we play offensively.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think they're gonna try. You look, you go in
the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman.
If somebody comes available, you know O Jo in free agency,
you get somebody to come to your team, you have
to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot where
he's been the last three four, five years, six years,
seven years, where he's gotten comfortable, he's established himself in
the community. If he has a wife, his wife is
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an interest in the community. If you've got kids, they
got friends and they've been in school, so you're gonna
have to overpay to get one of those guys, or
an offensive tackle or guard or a center to come
join your team. So you're gonna have to overpay to
get one of those guys. And then you know, you
go in the draft and you try to find the
best offensive lineman because you're gonna be drafting pretty high up.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
If this thing doesn't get turned around on Joe.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Unfortunately, that's you know, you might end up being a
top ten And I don't know, Like I said, I
haven't seen any projections just yet, but there might be
a situation where you have to go in and take
a linement in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now we know.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Look, Anthony Munjos is the best offensive lineman that they've had. Willie,
I know, Big Willy played a he from my home state,
went to Auburn. But you guys need an offensive line
bad on Joe.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We do, we do. I'm just hoping those young bulls,
those young bulls that we do have, especially those that
have gotten paid. They've been paid a nice ransom. I'm
hoping they can show up and and and pay dividends,
you know, and play like the money that they received
so far. I'm excited for them, obviously getting Joe Burrow.
Despite where we are right now, we're still two and three.
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The season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do.
But the only way to allow Joe to cook, the
only way he can be that chef, the head chef,
is he needs a little time. If he get a
little time on, you give Joe anytime. Boy, he is
surgical with that ball. That's for any of that in
the chat that no football, even though we can't move.
He got an harmony. Yes we got two of the best.
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He got he got the best. Maybe maybe arguably depending
on who you ask the best dude to throw to.
So I'm excited, I'm optimistic, and we can't go anywhere
but up from here because we're at the bottom of
the barrel right now.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Kevin Stefanski was noncommental on whether Richards Door Standards or
practice squad Bailey Zappi would be the team's backup quarterback
in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals.
Stefanski said he would let let the play let the
week play out, and make the decision later. When ask
about QB two row, Stefanski also would not say if
the team would sign Zappy to the active roster ahead
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of Sunday's game, so that one of the backups would
serve as the inactive emergency quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh Joe, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's already been reported that Bailey Zappi was taking a
lot of the practice squad snaps.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah. Basically, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment. He's
Kevin stefangis making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer. He's
making it basically Maury Povins. When Maury Povins does the
goddamn DNA test and the girl or the girl gets
up screaming and they run around with the camera. Yeah, yeah,
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that's that's exactly what he's making. He's making a mockery
of the situation and enjoying it. Yeah, he's enjoying it.
Just enounce the goddamn quarterback? Who's quarterback number two? If
Bailey Zappi had been taking the practice reps knowing that
your door, Joe Flack, I'm going. If Sad was already
number three, and goddamn Dyllan Gable goes number one and
Joe Flack, I'm going, then that makes goddamn Stward number two.
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Why are we playing these goddamn mind games?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like my fav was Ojo. If he was, let's just say,
for the sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when
Joe Flacco was there, Joe Flaka was one, Bailey Zappi
was two. Excuse me, Dylan Gaber was two. Shruduor was three.
But the report said Bailey Zappi was getting the practice squad.
They signed them off somebody else team and put him
on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps
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that Shador should be getting. So With that being said,
I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graber gonna
be taking all those reps and somehow come game come
up this regular season shauduor Sanda's gonna pull vault in
front of him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So if Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Zappi is taking those reps practice squad reps, Ojo, what's
the likelihood. Now I'm not saying it can't happen, but
what's the likelihood. I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure Cleveland know
what they're doing. Maybe they're waiting on the Shan to
come back. I don't know it since he's been out
there and he's been throwing and I don't know Ojo,
but I just know, look, they they've made a mockery
of this. Uh, we've talked about Cleveland more in the
first six weeks of this year than we have at
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any point in time. And it's not all good. But
I don't know what. I really don't know what to
make of this. It's, uh, we're gonna let it play out.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What I'm trying to what you're gonna let play out?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I can see if this was a training camp battle, Oho,
and let it play out. I'm trying to figure out
what can someone do in a week of practice? Oho,
that's gonna change your mind from where you stand right
now to movie like, oh well he had a great
week of practice?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Whooped to do?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The nothing at all?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Again? That's why I said, they're making a marcrate a situation.
That's all I.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Got filt this little mini Jim.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It's not a it's uh. They're asking him. They're asking
your door, Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What do you know?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
What do you what do you mean as that's Dylan Gabriel,
you ask him what do you think about? I'm not
playing as Dylan Gabriel? What is his think about Joe
Flacco being traded? Why are you asking me? I'm the
backup to the backup that got just got started. See,
they're always trying to put a microphone because they're always
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trying to get him to slip up. They're always trying
to catch him off his guard, don't Joe, They're trying
to They always trying.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They don't ask. They don't ask any other quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They don't ask the third string, or they don't ask
the practice squad guy. What do you think about somebody
getting traded, but somehow the microphone always seemed to find
your door. They're hoping he mess up. They he has
a proverbial slip. You see, that's why he's not starting.
You see, he needed to keep his mind closed. You see,
this is why he.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Did what he is a news cycle. It's the last name.
In general. They haven't had somebody this polarizing, that's not
even in that's not even in an important role as
of yet. They never had anybody like this before. They
haven't and they don't even know how to handle the
situation in general. Most of the time, in a situation
like this, when you have something as polarizing, a polarizing
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figure like that, you do everything you can to stay
away from it. But no, they're engaging with it in purpose.
They keep the Cleveland Browns in the news cycle. No
different than the god damn Dallas Cowboys, No damn different.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Man, If I should do, I say, look, man, when
I'm starting, When Coach Stefans can tell me I'm starting,
then I'll talk to you. Guys, what other backup quarterback
they're talking to?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You can't do that, though, but you understand the rules though,
you know you understand the rules.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But I'm trying to figure out, Oh yo, I'm trying
to think that they're not asking James Winson, no question.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They're not asking russ any questions. Now, all the questions.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are the Jackson Dark Guardia right right, So I'm my
only thing is okay? So why do you continuously ask
a backup that's not playing? Why are you continuously asking?
Why are you continuously asking them questions?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
What do you hope? What do you what do you
hope to get from him?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I can tell you what they're hoping. I can sound
I know, I know what they're hoping. Also, hey, they
they're hoping like when you go to the Army, like
when you go to the Marines, like when you go
to the Navy. They're trying to break you in the
beginning to see if you are the one. Are you
built for this? Mentally? That's all They waiting on the
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snap on They waiting on snap I'm telling you, he
has to understand it. I can see I can see
the plate. I can see the plate all the way.
I can see the play way before it happened, all
the way before a start. How can you not see it?
If you understand the game and the game that they're playing.
I can see it in clear as day. Your only
coming out saying some of the things he said, he
got training camp. Oh, I see what this is. Okay,
(27:05):
Now I got to play the game. I see what
I see what y'all trying to do? Right, You got
to play the game. Now. You you in their structuring environment.
You got to play by their rules.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Hey, Listen, even even I was in that position at
one point, he ain't wet. I got my toe in
the water. I got my toe in the water, but
my feet ain't wet, just as if yet. But once
once I got in the water fully. Oh but you've seen,
You've seen every bit of Day County, Liberty City come
up out of me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh Joe, we got breaking news. Another major trade between
the Giants and the Browns. Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom
and Jets twenty twenty six sixth round picks from the
brown Browns get Tyson Campbell the Eagles twenty twenty sixth
seventh round picks from the jag The trade partners from
the night of the twenty twenty five draft now pull
off another mid season trade.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Hey, listen. That's that's a good tribe. That's a good trade.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now I don't understand why they, yeah, the jag going
for it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh yeah, listen, especially for the Jags, I don't And
this is the thing I would get ready to say.
Greg Newsom is is a phenomenal uncle for sure. Greg
Newsom ain't no slouts. You know, we we understand what
Denzel Ward is on the other side, but when they
try to go to Greg Newsom side by, a young
boy can play some ball. So this is a win
for the Jags And with great understanding of why they
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did it is because, oh we're finn push all our
chips to the front. Were pushing all our chips to
the front because we really believe we have a chance
right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing. Yep,
that's that's respectable. And if you're a Jaguars fan, I
commend ownership. I commend your GM, and I commend you
God damn head coach. They're done, pushed all they chips
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on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We going in.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
He unk the chap, funny as hell, unk what happened?
They've just been going in on you. They going in
on me. Tell about it. I looked like Debo. I
look like a Mexican. This damn flat or home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And what they going on me?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
For?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
What I do? Nod? Go ahead? What I do? O? Yo?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They killing me?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
What they say I do? Hold on, Chad, what I do?
I was just asking. I was just asking a question. Damn.
I can't ask no questions.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
It ain't funny boy.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Look, I know you guys think, but here's the real
when it comes to track and field, I don't have
a research team. I'm old enough to remember, y'all. I'm
fifty seven. So I go all the way back. I
remember the eighty four Olympics. I remember Soul, I remember Barcelona,
I remember Atlanta, I remember Athens. What y'all want me
(29:45):
to I remember Sydney was in two thousands after it
was the four, Beijing was eight, London was twelve, Rio
was sixteen twenty one. I remember what y'all want me
to do. I remember the World Championship when they came out.
I'm sorry that y'all came. Remember your way home, not
even our fault. I've told you if you know Shannon Sharp,
(30:06):
if you watch me, at any point in time, I
told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes,
I love football and I know the history of football.
I know the history of basketball, but I love track
and field. It's I was playing around the track and field.
I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football,
I go to the gym. But when track and field long,
(30:27):
I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I
watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch
with the sound And for them to take their time
out to come on nightcap. What other platform other than
my boy Justin Gatling and his partner that give track
and field athletes the platform like we do talk?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, yeah, you're right, you're right by that, you know what.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'm sorry that, you know. I asked questions that I
think the chat would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
What do you eat? What are your training sessions? Like X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yes, so I'm just I'm confused at what y'all think
I was supposed to do, like like stutter or go
through it. Yes, there are no notes on here With
Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she's
a Florida lum. I know she from Colorado. I mean, yeah, y'all, don't.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Worry about it because they're still killing me. And they
told me I looked like Jody from Baby Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Man people weird.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean like like I'm not supposed to ask any questions,
Like I'm supposed to be like, uh.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What do you? What are you like? No, I know
that I know the history.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I can't wait for us to have Ryan Crowzer on
so I can talk to him about the shot the greatest,
the greatest shot put her ever. Anna was talking about
the Jackie's record that she set him soul seventy to
ninety one. Seems unbreakable, that woman's shot put in the USS. Sorry,
ain't nobody breaking that one?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, you know it's funny. Is the same way you
are about track and field one of the one sporting,
one of the ones?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You like that about soccer?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh my god, well soccer, come on my phone on
do not to serve? Oh, you know, on Saturday and Sunday,
I'm mad. I fly to London in the morning, my
flight at five o'clock. I'm mad that I'm going to
London and everybody don't got them international break. Everybody on
international break, so out of the perfect time for me
to catch a goddamn g I can sneak you go
(32:27):
catch a game, right, everybody?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
O JO?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Does this mean we'll see Travis full time on offense?
Greg Newsom was the number twenty six pick in the
twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Tyson Campbell was picked thirty
three in that same draft, just seven picks apart.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
You know what, I'm curious what they're gonna do because
they have a phenomenal nigger in Jordan Lewis, Right, I'm
not sure who's on the other side, but you know
Greg news is coming in on one side, and he's
gonna he's gonna be that guy, that guy that can
do it. I still think they know Travis Hunter wants
to continue to contribut on defense. I think he'll continue
to have those packages. They're gonna find ways to fix
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to fit him in there at some point. But what
we saw offensively, he's too dynamic on They have to
find ways to getting the ball. On offense, he's too dynamic.
You put the ball in the area anywhere in the vicinity,
he's going to make that play, especially though jump balls
that are.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Where he can showcase his athleticism.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they become eighty twenty with somebody like that. Yeah,
so I mean, listen, he's too dynamic, you know, and
showing flashes of brilliance in which we saw at Colorado
on both sides of the ball. So I hope they
allow him to continue to doing doing this thing on
both sides have given them a healthy a healthy count
on both sides of the ball. We're going to be
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effective and efficient. But they don't overload him, and he's
able to He's able to play at his best on
both sides.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And that's what it comes down to, because they they
they need a special player, yeah, on one side of
the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if
he's average on both sides of the ball. Oh, Joe,
he has to be dynamic on one of the other, right,
because that's why you traded up on Yo, That's why
you gave up what you gave up to get it.
Because if you gave up what you get it and
you just got an average player, that that doesn't make
(34:15):
sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him
be dynamic, and then you, like you said, bring him
in on the package.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean, personally, Joe, I still think he's better at defense.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I think it's his instincts, his ball skills are just
second to none. I know you like it because of
the jump ball, but right now it's just athletal system. Now,
once he learns the route tree. I give prime example Tyreek.
Remember when Tyreek first came in, he was a gadget guy,
and then all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree.
Tyreek has played his way into a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
(34:45):
Travis Hunter has thatcountability. He just got to get better
running the round. Right now, they're only running on spots
and jump balls.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, if I could get If I get Trav, I
know you're gonna see this. If I can get with
you in the off season, yeah, grateful that. If I
need you for two months two months, were working four
days a week all we all I need is an hour,
all your time for four weeks. I know you already
have your train. I'm not trying to step on nobody, tos.
I'm talking about running routes. Yeah, I'm talking about giving
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the illusion of doing something that you're really not at
full speed. Oh my goodness, brother, what I could do
with you, Oh my goodness, what I could do And listen,
now you know that's my specialty. Now I do man
ay trap. Come on Hall, let you boy in the offseason.
I don't need much time our day. That's it rock running.
(35:36):
I wish they would come up there and play press.
Come on up here if you want to.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Sh o Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Just days after his most embarrassing moment of the season,
Chief passed rushing Chris Jones addressed why he didn't give
maximum effort on the Jaguars game when he touchdown. Jones says,
that's a teaching point for me, the little adversity. I think.
I can't think the play is over. It's a learning lesson.
I thought it was over. I thought we had him down,
so I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate.
(36:04):
Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one
of the core leaders of the Chief and to see
him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Does some up.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But for me, I thought they were gonna let him score.
That's what I would have done on Joe that way.
Right now, I need maximum time. But I think it
kind of off guard that they was passing the ball
instead of running it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So I may maybe.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
CJ and I'm like I said, this is me thinking
for him because it's hard for me to believe that
I saw it in real time. I was like, damn, CJ.
But I thought that, and maybe they did think that
they were going to run the ball, and I think
they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball.
But in a situation like that, you know, you can't
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assume he knows that. I mean, he knew that, but
now he really knows that. And you know, obviously, and
they had a talk, Red had a talk talk to him.
It's just not a good look, and he knows that.
You're talking about one of the premier def tackles, a
three time Super Bowl champion, a multiple time All Pro player.
He's probably he's more than likely going to be the
(37:12):
All Pro defensive tackle of the twenty twenties. Can't have
that on your resume. Like you said, it's a teachable moment.
I don't think. I don't think we will have that
issue with CJ again.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you think about how many sixty
five snaps I'm not sure how many play on defense. Yeah,
all of them. All of them aren't one hundred percent effort.
But you can't look like you did on that play.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, can't. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
There's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron
Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as
the best defensive tackle in the game. So there's a
camera always on you from every goddamn angle.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Jones also said that social media accounts weren't deactivated as
an attempt to avoid criticism.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Oh your back of your date.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We didn't really have to deal with social media twenty
for seven to Twitter, you know viral takes. Do you
think athletes in today's game face more criticism than they
did in years past?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Well, absolutely absolutely, because not only you have to deal
with the media, you have to deal with the fans
as well. Now, before the fans, the fans had no
way of having access to you. You didn't have to
see it. You just have to hear it either on
radio or on TV. Now you deal with much more,
way more criticism, and they critique you way more. When
you don't play well, or things don't happen, or or
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you get hit hard or your fumbl the ball. You
got to deal with it from everybody and all the
social media. So you have to have thick skin on
you have to have thick skin, especially to be a
player in this era, especially to be a great player
in this era. It has to go on one end
out the other. You have to be able to ignore
it at times. You have to be able to laugh
at yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to
continue to function, you know, at a high level and
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whatever respective craft it is you're doing, just not football
in general. You know, whether it be you know you're
a rapper, or you play you play football, you play tennis.
It's everything is everywhere now you know you you you
become a mean and sometimes you got you got to
take take the jokes for what they are, and you
have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, judge
(39:21):
yourself off and just go again.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, there's definite, There's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account,
they're a former NFL, NBA, MLB player, they're former coach,
former general manager, their former b Yeah, so now everybody
has an opinion and you can see their opinions show
up in real time. You're absolutely right, o, yo. With
the you're not getting away with anything. There was a
(39:49):
time that the media would see a player doing something right,
and it would never make the news. It would never
make the papers. That ain't happening. Now, No, it's not happening.
If they see you do something, it's getting reported because
everybody wants to be first. Everybody wants to break the story.
It's like, he's gonna get out anyway, right, so let
me be the first to get it. So there is
(40:10):
no longer that that bond that used to be between
the great players and the reporters.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
That's over.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's over, and now everybody have a camera, So you
can't do even if you wanted to get away with something.
For the most part, it's hard to get away with
stuff now, right because just think about it, Jordan going
out the night before and playing and playing and gambling. Boy,
that was gonna be on somebody. Look at Michael Jordan
before he played the Knicks. This Michael Jordan at the
(40:39):
game at the blackjack table, y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Cameras everywhere to now everywhere. The funny thing knowing Jordan's
and how he was, his mannerisms, his persona in general,
and he wouldn't give to you know what.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh absolutely don't. Why you think you don't see his
ass out.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Now, Well, he really can't be out.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able. Jordan hadn't
been able to be Mike Jordan since he was at
U n C. Yeah, the moment he hit the league
did that, it was over. Yeah, and really and when
he got those red and black shoes, it was good,
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not ireen.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, it was a rap.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
It was a rap.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, I think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Old Joe he could, He's really Michael Jackson. They've really
never been able to enjoy. I mean, you got to
rid the whole movie theater. You want to go out
to a movie, you gotta writen the whole theater out.
You want to take this kids skate, you gotta wit
the whole the whole skating rink out.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I couldn't live like that.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It would be hard.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Everything everything is off, everything is, everything is on the microscope.
Just imagine how everything how everything looks so big on
the microscope.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That's how you look in the public eyes.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Not that I don't mind, I don't care. I don't
careing about the microscope because what you see is what
you get. What you see is what you get. I
don't I don't play a character. This is just me
but the whole not being able to go anywhere. I
am too sociable. I love conversing with people. I love
I love seeing people and hugging and saying.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You wouldn't be that way if you was that you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, you can't be Why you couldn't be like that
with that kind of money to get you?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You about the money, the money wise?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay, okay, yeah, what person you know that popular and
don't have money?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I got money. Now
what you're saying not like that?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Okay, okay, they but it chop your head off.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I got a question. What what can Michael Jordan and
Lebron do that I can't do?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Go to the mall? They can't do that. Uh uh.
We just talked about it. Man. What you can't do?
(43:10):
You can't go? You you mean you you, But that's
what you have to be able to do. If you're
a jay Z, What jay Z gonna go? What be?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
What Beyonce gonna go? What Taylor Swift's gonna go? You
think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend? Girl, Let's
go to the mall. Girl, Let's go get us a
drink where are they going?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm one of the I'm I'm. I've always been accessible.
I don't care how big I get, which is probably
why God would never bless me with that type of
with that type of wealth, because he knows damn where
I'm gonna be at the mall. He know damn where
I'm gonna be at the McDonald's drive through. He knows, well,
I'm gonna be at every soccer game I can get to.
(43:49):
It's not happening, you know, damn. Where I'm gonna still
be on my grandma porch in Liberty City, and that
everybody driving around to see him sitting out there. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I mean, you might be.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You might be out there, but you have security, and
then you're gonna be up in the box.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
You ain't gonna be in there. You ain't gonna be
in the stands.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It ain't the same when you when you go to
a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You're not the same. You look at that through the
prism that you're the same. You're not the same. You
can still have some of the same friends, and y'all.
But they come to you, right, they go someplace, they
take the whole island over. You see most of the
time you see them. What do you see them at
(44:30):
on the yacht? When you see jay Z? How many
security you see with him? How many in that detail?
That security detail? When you see Mike. Damn, that's that's
your life now, O yo, that is your life.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's private. Jest. It ain't no more spirit, It ain't
no more in the airport, it's not that.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh so you're telling me if I reached that type
of wealth, I can't fly spirit.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'm you're not flying that. That sounds good, but you're
not signed that. You're not gonna be worth a billion dollars,
five billion dollars, ten billion, thirty billion dollars them fly
that you're not. That's just like you don't buy to
say you buy chrome hearts. You but you see what
you spend your money off. And I guarantee you when
you were younger, you like, ain't no way I spent
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this much money for a car.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Wait a minute, I didn't. I didn't buy chrome hearts.
That was a gift for my baby.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You a so everything that you got is a gift
from your baby, the watching, that jewelry, that cuban, that house,
you got all that gifts.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh no, no, no exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You see, you see how you move accordingly to the resources.
So just imagine I gave you two you weren't two
billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, let's let's reset it. Let's let's hypothetic speaking.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Okay, you were two billion.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, So tell me what you
think I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And uh, you.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Not walking You're not walking in You're not walking in
the regular airport. You're gonna fly private because you have
the kind of means to fly private.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
And uh because you're not gonna run Oh Jo, You're
not gonna run the risk. You're a high value target. Yeah,
and I know why you think everybody is your friend.
When you get that kind of money, you build up
a lot of enemies.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Also, damn I got you think I got enemies right now?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Hell yeah, absolutely. And the more money you get, the
more the more you get, the more dissension.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Dislike, jealousy, envy, but I'm along with it.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody in.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
The world what biggest, say more money, more problems. He
did say more money.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
He didn't say more money, more friends, more money, more problems.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Right by that, you're right, But I just don't understand
how anybody can not like me like I want you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
That's the only way I'm gonna get my fifty down
hunter back. That's the only one I'm geting fifty down
hundred back if you get.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
A b not really, I get to you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Not.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
But I told you as long as that, oh, you'll
never go broke.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Well, I just see it.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
It's better. It's better shuited in my hands as opposed
to yours.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
So you drawed interest on my money.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I ain't join interest on your money. But I just
got your best interest.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
You see how that wor I can show you that
fifty man, I got you, I got you a few bills.
I need to pay what you need to pay.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
A Hey, I can loan you something if you need it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh, so you you owe me, but you will have
to loan me money.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
You gonna loan me by money? Chat? How that makes sense? Chat?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
This man just told me he owed me money, but
he gonna loan me my money.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Listen, I ain't gonna loan you the money out what
I owe you. I'm I'm gonna loan you some money
out of it.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Oh you will pay me and then loan me extra.
Yeah yeah, okay, okay, No, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
But I think I look, I think, uh, I think everybody.
I think everybody not yet understands the level of scrutiny
that these athletes face today. The older athletes didn't have
to they didn't have to worry about that. They didn't
have to worry about that, they didn't have to worry
about their business being because if somebody want to tell.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Your business, where were they going?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Mm hmm oh oh he had recording somebody's phone call,
you having somebody having cameras, you know, pay coming in
and out.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Hey, I'm seeing a lot of that, lady. I'm seeing
a lot of that, lady, and not not not sportsblady
in general. But I thought that was a federal offense.
I thought that was a felony and recording someone.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It all depends on what state you're in. Oh, Okay, California. Yeah,
they tell you, they tear you.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Up with that.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Got you can't record uh now a call and someone's
now you have no no, no, no leg to stand
on in a public setting for privacy. You can't be
out the park and talk about, man, don't feel me. Nah,
you can't be in the airport talking about don't film me.
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You do have a level of privacy in your own home,
you do have a level. Like some states, it do on'tly
matter that the person that's taping you recording you know
that that's happening. Other than that, so it all depends
on the state. That varies from state to state. But
this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys Serena and
(49:36):
the women's athletes and the men athletes today, yeah, it's
not even it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Even Mike said it. Mike said he don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
How he would be able to function with this social media.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
After five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped the NFL quarterback ranking.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Here they are.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Josh Allen is number one, Patrick Mahomes is number two.
I'm only gonna do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three,
Lamar Jackson is four, Jered Goff is five, Dak Prescott
is six, Baker Mayfield is seven, Justin Herbert it's eight.
Jordan Love is nine, Drake may is ten. Okay, just
for the sake of right, we'll go through fifteen. Daniel
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Jones is eleven, Jaydeon Daniels is twelfth, Sam Donald is thirteenth,
Jalen Hurts is fourteenth, c J. Stroud is fifteenth, Bow
Knicks is twenty, Jake Browning is thirty.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Can I be honest with you, Yes, I'm not sure
when they made that list, but Daniel Jones and Baker
Mayfield belongs somewhere to the top, along with joshin Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
If we're just talking about this year, Baker Mayfield got
to be in the top five.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen whatever. Listen it is and
whenever it came out it was basing. Sure it's done
so far up into up to this week in the season,
week five or week six, whatever. Yes, for sure, Daniel
Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top
of that somewhere. Sam Donald needs to be in there
as well.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, just if we're just starting baking it on this week,
I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be one. Right,
We're not Look, we're not talking about Look, we understand
what Josh Allen's done.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
We understand Patrick mahoons is done.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
We understand with Matthew Stafford's done, and we know the
MVPs that Lamar's done. But if we're talking, if we're
basing it on the first five weeks of this season,
they having out those guys, having out played Baker Mayfield,
I'm sorry, And y'all know how I feel about Patrick
Mahomes and I love everybody that they got ranked, but
they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks playing
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better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't
care what your fan base is. I don't care if
your bill, I don't care if your achieved. I don't
care if you're the Rams Baltimore. There are not seven
six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
They're not hell Shit or Daniel Jones for that matter, No,
they're not. He's a surprised I didn't know. I mean,
I could be I'm one of them. I was a culprit,
you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed. Yes, third,
he wasn't, based on what we saw from him in
New York and for him to come to Indy and
do what he's doing. I'm like, man, what in the
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world he done? Flip the whole script in the system.
He's playing phenomenal football.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Man.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
So I wanted to be the first to say I
apologize and I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I told you to go start.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You ain't paying the guy that the incombing guy, the
incumbent starter, which was Richardson, is making four or five million.
They bring a backup in making fourteen million, and you
think the guy is making fourteen million, gonna be on
the bench.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh yeah, that wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's not happening. O. YO.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
With the game that you just watched, do you think
Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at fourteen if you were listen,
we're not talking. He won the Super Bowl, He's super
Bowl MVP. Based on what you've seen through the first
five weeks of the season. Has he played better than
Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake may did Jordan Look?
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Has he played better than those guys?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put
it that way. If anything, you know he's appropriately ranked.
He's appropriately ranked based on what they ask him to
do offensively, what they ask him to do offensively where
the numbers are not going to be like any of
those guys that's that's ahead of him. So what he's
asked to do, he is appropriately ranked right where he is,
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if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All I know is they're not sick. They're not six
quarterbacks that's currently playing the quarterback position better than shaking bait.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
They're just not shaking bake. They're not.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Look, look, we know Patrick Mahomes is the most accomplished
you know, three super Bowl, three Super Bowl MVPs.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
You know he's been in the super Bowl five times.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
He's been in the AFC Championship every year that he's
been a start, He's never not been in the NFC
AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
We get all that, Lamar.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
The two time league MVP Josh Allen is a one
time league MVP. Matthew Stafford led a team to the
Super Bowl. I get all of that, and kudos those
guys accomplished that, and you can't take that away from them.
But I'm sorry, those guys are not playing the position
better than Baker Mayfield is playing the position. It's just
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that simple. Then, ain't got nothing to do with what
he might do moving forward. They said the first five weeks.
That says, after five weeks, Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking.
So they're saying, after five weeks of this year twenty
twenty five, nothing that happened twenty twenty four, going back,
nothing that's gonna happen week six. Moving forward, they said,
the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield play
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better than everybody. Yeah, and he has, and its record
is just they.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Only lost one game. Josh Allen lost one game.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Patrick Holme, I don't know what the reokord uh Lamar
Jackson's won and four Matthew staffords. I think they've lost
two games. Jerry Goson lost the game. Dak I think
they're two two in one.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, what about what the coach lost one?
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Coach lost one, Yes,
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Joe Flacco. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But not for the Cleveland Browns, for your Cincinnati Bengals.
He will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach
Zach Taylor announced sixth Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra
division trade Tuesday. They set a twenty twenty sixth fifth
round draft pick to the Browns in exchange for Flacco
and a twenty twenty six sixth round draft pick. This
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is how rare sin I think in this century. Only
twice as it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew
Bledsoe to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan
McNabb to the Washington They were not the commanders at
the time, you know what they were. But he got
traded intra division. So only three times at a quarterback
that I can think of a trade like this going down.
(01:06):
Jake brown Here's Ojoe, Here's Jake Browning. Who you said
was gonna lead y'all to where y'all needed to go
on his demotion. Yeah, okay, let's run down. Let's run
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down what happened. Joe Flacco was traded, Ojo's guy wasn't
being able to Jake Browning was not being able to
hold up to it because what was supposed to happen.
Your backup is supposed to be able to keep you
afloat until your starter comes back. That's what a backup
is supposed to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati
being was like, look, we've got a lot of money
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invested in Chase and Higgins, and we gave fourteen more
million dollars to a trade Hendrickson, so we need to
try to maximize this. We can't just give up on
the season because our quarterback is not fulfilling his obligation,
which is the key of the float to if and win. Joe,
excuse me, Joe Burrow came back. Doesn't look like that
was happening, and so they made the move. So Cleveland
(02:13):
said Joe Flacco and the twenty twenty sixth sixth round
draft pick and returns. The Bengals send them a twenty
twenty six fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We got it loaded. Now we're getting it right for
you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
How Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the
starter to now being the backup in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I'm trying to respond the right way. Obviously, I'm pissed.
And if I wasn't pissed, then I shouldn't be in
this locker room. And it's important to me. And you know,
I'm aware of the role I played and the offensive
struggles over the last few weeks. And you know, but
I'm also on my shouldering the entire situation. And uh,
you know, I went through yesterday watch my throws, tried
(03:05):
to come up with some stuff that I want to
work on, and she's stilling not.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oko the thing a quarterbacks supposed to do. Say look
it's on me, I did not play. Don't say I'm
not going to shoulder all of the blame. We know
you all the blame is not on you, But in
that moment, when you're in front of the camera as
the leader of that offense, you say, look, that's on me.
I didn't play well enough to get the job done.
So I understand why the Bengals made that decision. If
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and when my time comes back up, I'll be more prepared.
And I promise you Bengals fans, this organization, my teammates,
I won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Take off on Joe Iran. Listen.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Obviously, most of the time in that situation as a
quarterback being the face, being that Joe Burrow is absent,
you have to take on this. You have to take
all that on your shoulders because you are at the quarterback,
because much is expected of you once you were at
that position, and you are the one who handles the
ball the most outside of everyone else. With that being said,
(04:03):
you look at our team and where we are right now,
we're two and three. We still have time to be
able to salvage the season. I think them continue with
to stick with Jake Browning based on the last two
performance that we've seen, it would have been malpracticed by
the coach. I think Zach Taylor might be on the
hot seat. Yeah, listen, it's not funny because this is
a serious matter. This is not a laughing matter for us.
(04:26):
The fans are impatient. I'm inpatient. I think upstairs they're
also in patient because they've invested money in that office.
In line, they're investing money in Joe Burrow. They invested
money in Tea and Jamar Chase and another especially offensively
in general, and they want to see a return on
that investment. Correct, Joe Burrow's down, Joe Burrows down, Next
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man up? The next man up is not playing well
at all. So we're two and three right now. We
do want to do We want to get someone else
who is a veteran presence that has won a Super Bowl.
Maybe they can come in and steer the ship to
keep it from sinking, similar to like the Titanic. We
don't want to hit the iceberg. So can Joe Flacco
come in and steer the ship and dodge a few icebergs? Now,
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we might, we might sink a little bit, but we
don't want to just go all the way goddamn under.
I'm going to see what can happen. It all starts
with number one. We have a gun slinger at the
quarterback position that has a hell of a arm, but
he's not mobile. Uncle Joe Jake Browning was mobile, and
he was running for his life, yes, away from my
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offensive line. If you guys do see this, I beg
of you. I implore you to raise your level of
play for us offensively to have any success moving forward,
starting right now this week against that Packers defense.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Garrett oh Wyatt, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
My Bengals officsive line. We need to set the tone.
We need we need to set the tone. All five
of you. Orlando Brown, come on, baby, you got to
come to the party. Brother Memes, you got to come
to the party. Right guard, left guard, Tared Carris, we
got to come to the party. As we go, as
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the officer line goes, our team goes. The game of
football is one up fronts won in the trenches, and
for us to continue to continue to compete not only
the FC North, but the NFL in general for the
rest of the season, we have to win upfront. That's
what it starts with. If we went up front, everything
else becomes easy. Offensively.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I can tell looking at the chat that there are
not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking
to obsacagate Blaine. If you go look at just look
at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen Hurts, watch
out when they lose a game, how he talks with
Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose. Look how
they talk. Don't talk about I don't shoulder all the blame.
(07:02):
You said this on me. I need to play better,
and I will. I understand why the organization did what
they did because I wasn't getting the job done. If
and when I get another opportunity, Oh Joe. The only
reason he's on the roster is that when Joe Burr
got hurt last time, he did a well enough job.
And say, you know what, we got a backup. If
Joe goes down for three to four weeks. We got
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a guy that can hold it in the road for us.
We have a self driving car. Been seeing a lot
of self driving cars late and I'm like, hold on,
I saw the car driving around, Oh Joe. I'm looking
at him, soide.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I said, hold wait a minute, ain't nobody.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Driving and stop if somebody got out, I said, I
heard people talk about it, O Joe, but that's my
first time seeing what right?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that's what That's what Jake Browning was. He was
a self driving card, like man Joe out. Jake got this.
We saw him against Jacksonville. You remember that Thursday night game,
Oh Joe against Jacksonville. Yeah, he played well. That's what
gave you the confidence to say what you were saying,
because you had seen him in moments like this. Yes,
rise to the occasion, play extremely well. I don't know
(08:13):
what happened, because here's the thing on Yoe, Expectations are
the number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations.
Because see it's easy. And I tell guys all the time,
I say, you know what, the easiest thing I ever
did was make the Pro Bowl because nobody was expecting it. Now,
guess what happens when they build a game plan around
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you and the defense build a game plan to stop you.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Heait, hold on, stay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right there, because I know you for the cook. Hold
on now, hold on because let me tell you something.
I I got my penny pad. Now I know you
fin the cook. Go ahead now.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So that's what happens, Oh Joe, see you see what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Expectations Jake Brownie had immis expectations.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Why o, Joe?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Because the Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations even though Joe
Burrow's down. They believe, Man, we have enough offensively to
right this ship until Joe gets back. We got changed,
We got the best receiving in football. We believe we
got another top fifteen receiving football. We got a guy
that can run the ball. There ain't no reason for
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us to be scoring three points, ten points, be down
thirty four to three going into the fourth quarter with
the offensive weapons that we got.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So now the expectations and you feel that living up,
Oh Joe, it was easy your kids. See, your kids
got expectations. You never had your.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Dad on Yo sinko. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The Pro bowlers, the one that's on night Cap, Yeah,
now they got expectations.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You didn't have to deal with your mom.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Your people were like they might say, oh you Hurricane Paul, leave.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Paul lettersn.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But now you put so much expectations on your kids
because see, only people in the neighborhood knew your You
knew your mom, knew your grandma. You're a worldwide commodity.
They see that last name, they say, hold on, what's
your relationship? Oh Joe, that's my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's your dad.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Now what you play, when you play, what you're doing,
you do so what you do in sports, but you
want to be when you grow up. Now you see
Jake Brown and had those expectations with that offense. He
was supposed He wasn't supposed to be Joe Burrow. He
was just supposed to be that self driving car. To
keep it in the road.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, you just.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Don't crash, that's all you gotta do something. I don't
even need you to win this race. Just get the
car around the track and don't crash. Keep it in
first gear.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
See I told you it was Finn to cook because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
See I already know what's gonna happen when you get
the fourth You need to burn the clutch out and
you're gonna script the gear.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What you're gonna do with your what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hold on now, hold on, I don't need you to
win the race. I just need you to get the
car around the track. But that's a bar.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Uh, get it around the track. That's a bar.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You didn't even understand I did.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Let me write this down. Hold on now, or you cooking?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What? God damn?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
But you need to be a pastor.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hey, I don't need Jake. I don't need Jake. You
think we need you to be fifteen and two? Right?
Get us the ten? Can you can you get us
the level?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Can you keep us can you get us the ten
and seven? Get us the ten and seven? Ten and seven,
might be, might be something, might be something we can
look at.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, look that's what.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The Texans one and four, the Titans one and four. Okay,
they got two teams in that division are playing really well.
You got the AFC South, you got the Jags and
you got the Coats.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
They cutting up, they cutting up, they cutting up. It's funny.
Two of the teams that are always three and four
now one and two battling with a chance to win
that division in the AFC South. Well obviously, well, let
me take that back, because when Peyton Manny was there,
they dominated the for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Let me just said, as of recent it hasn't been
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, no, no, no, no no. Basically since Andrew Luck
left it hadn't been like that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hey, listen, I'm excited. You think about what we are too.
As a Bengo fan, I'm sure we have some Bengo
fans in the chat, and just fans of football in
the chat in general. You think about us and wh
we are right now. We at the bottom. We at
the bottom. There's nowhere else, there's no other place we
can go, but up from this point based on what
we saw last week, that's only one place we can go.
We got Flack over there. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What choice do you have? Yo?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Right, and then and a lot of people. You got
some people obviously hear some Bago fans. Oh why we
go get Joe Flack? Oh there were no viable options?
It's about but why didn't we get anybody who would run?
Why we ain't get anybody mobile? Who's out there?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That is the back exactly?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
This ain't this, ain't mad. This is real life. This
is real life. What we need is not like quarterbacks
are like goddamn apple tree. You just go pick when
you want to replace the next one. That is one
of the reasons why it's so difficult to not only
find a quarterback, but find a transcending generational talent like
a Joe Burrow. You can't replace it. No, you can't
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replace the Lamar Jackson if he's injured, as you can
see with the Ravens struggling. You can't replace a goddamn
Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But can we get can we get to Carson Wentz?
Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the
Minnesota Vikings until JJ McCarthy comes back, because he's making
hard on Kevin O'Connell to put JJ McCarthy ass back
in the ball game considering how well he's actually playing
since JJ McCarthy's been out more touchdowns, your interceptions, that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Look in this situation, you're not gonna make it difficult
for them not to. Joe Burrow asked back in there,
he's making far too much money and he's a far
superior quarterback to what you are.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But with that being.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Said, bro, you gotta this is how bad is This
is how bad Jake Browning is. His qb are is
actually higher than Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But when you desperate, don't yo ay.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Somebody say, man, look if one aspirin, if if if
two aspirin kill clean, uh will clear your head? You'll
you won't have a headache. And say an hour well
and and and that's what Jared Crowns Jered Ryan's Doris
asked Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But it's a true analogy. You know, one as take
two aspirins.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Uh pasionship subside subside in a couple of hours. What
if I take ten, it's probably gonna kill you. And
he asked, Mike, would you take ten? He said, well,
how bad is my headache?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams
do desperate things. This was a desperate move because your actuality.
The quarterback that you have starting is actually playing better
than the quarterback you're replacing him with. But let when
you see it. When you get desperate on your when
you get desperate, you make desperate decisions. You don't think clearly,
you don't see clearly. All I know is that my
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guy isn't playing well. Well, let's grab that guy. You
do realize that guy got bnched? Also, yes, I can
see if you got it. Hey, I want to trade
for your starter. No, you traded for a guy that
got bitched.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Can I say something, Yes, we traded for a guy
that got benched, obviously, But the guy that got benched
that's coming to the Bengals has a much better supporting
cast around him right now, for now. Again, the one
issue I did say, because the spike coming, the spike
coming here to a much better supporting cast. If that
front four or that front five when it is five,
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don't do what they need to do. They not and
be a wall for two seconds. Give me a wall
for two. Two seconds, that's all I need. Give me two.
If you can give me two, we can do.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Something with one. In five.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you better, you better keep a Flacco in the
shotgun because they're gonna take him longer than three.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's getting his drop back better.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, that's fine, that's fine. We canna put him back
there in the shotgun process so we can already process.
He can see what's in front of them right away,
and it doesn't take him that much long to get
that ball out. And you know one thing about flack
O boy, he got an arm one him.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh he could throw it. Now, he can make He
can still make all the throws. Now he's gonna throw
Chasing Higgins about three. Now, he gonna throw the other
the team about two. Now, it's just a matter whether
they're gonna catch him or not. Because he gonna give everybody.
He's an equal opportunity employer. He believed, he believes in
d I diversity, equality inclusion. So he gonna diversify touchdown
the interception. He gonna makes the quality and he gonna
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include the defense and what the hell he doing. So
I'm just letting y'all know, a Bengo fans, you are listen,
you remember him when he was at there the Ravens.
You remember him when he was at Cleveland. You already know,
and you just he's got a glimpse of it earlier
this year, so you know who and what he is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Think you're gonna get twenty twelve playoff Flaco, that is
he would never ever able to replicate. He could never
really put a regular season together like he could. Those
playoff runs, Oh Joe, he had some of the great
playoff runs.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
A crazy work in the playoffs, crazy work. But again,
you think about what he had offensively with the Ravens,
even back then, with that playoff run he did that
run Hill, I could just I honestly, I can honestly
say throughout his entirety of his career, he ain't never
had nothing like he got Worker.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He had a better offensive line, but he didn't have
You know, I'm trying to think who was his running
back back then.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I don't even remember who's running back was.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I know a Kwan Bowler was one of the receiverswenty
seven Ray Rice.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yes, I believe so, Okay, I believe so yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But I think the thing is, O Joe, he's gonna
need time to throw. Like you said, he doesn't have mobility.
He's not a guy that you can move. I mean,
are you gonna move the pocket with him? You can't
zone read with him, I mean you're limited. Basically, Hey,
O Joe, he's a drop back. He's a prototypical seventies
eighty drop back quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
He's kinda like these quarterbacks that we have today, all
the quarterbacks, they are slightly mobile, some more than noble
or others.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But oh Joe, he is what he is than you.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean listen, even Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson.
Joe Burrow ain't God Damn Josh Allen, but his ability
to manipulate the pocket, yeah, field pressure and being able
to escape it and make throws down the field is
second to none. He's really good at escaping the pocket
despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks
that just name are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well
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and the owners. It all comes down to the office
line yeah, and as they go, the better they play,
the better we play offensively.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think they're gonna try. You look, you go in
the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman.
If somebody comes available, you know O Jo in free agency,
you get somebody to come to your team, you have
to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot where
he's been the last three four, five years, six years,
seven years, where he's gotten comfortable, he's established himself in
the community. If he has a wife, his wife is
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an interest in the community. If you've got kids, they
got friends and they've been in school, so you're gonna
have to overpay to get one of those guys, or
an offensive tackle or guard or a center to come
join your team. So you're gonna have to overpay to
get one of those guys. And then you know, you
go in the draft and you try to find the
best offensive lineman because you're gonna be drafting pretty high up.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
If this thing doesn't get turned around on Joe.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Unfortunately, that's you know, you might end up being a
top ten And I don't know, Like I said, I
haven't seen any projections just yet, but there might be
a situation where you have to go in and take
a linement in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now we know.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Look, Anthony Munjos is the best offensive lineman that they've had. Willie,
I know, Big Willy played a he from my home state,
went to Auburn. But you guys need an offensive line
bad on Joe.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We do, we do. I'm just hoping those young bulls,
those young bulls that we do have, especially those that
have gotten paid. They've been paid a nice ransom. I'm
hoping they can show up and and and pay dividends,
you know, and play like the money that they received
so far. I'm excited for them, obviously getting Joe Burrow.
Despite where we are right now, we're still two and three.
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The season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do.
But the only way to allow Joe to cook, the
only way he can be that chef, the head chef,
is he needs a little time. If he get a
little time on, you give Joe anytime. Boy, he is
surgical with that ball. That's for any of that in
the chat that no football, even though we can't move.
He got an harmony. Yes we got two of the best.
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He got he got the best. Maybe maybe arguably depending
on who you ask the best dude to throw to.
So I'm excited, I'm optimistic, and we can't go anywhere
but up from here because we're at the bottom of
the barrel right now.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Kevin Stefanski was noncommental on whether Richards Door Standards or
practice squad Bailey Zappi would be the team's backup quarterback
in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals.
Stefanski said he would let let the play let the
week play out, and make the decision later. When ask
about QB two row, Stefanski also would not say if
the team would sign Zappy to the active roster ahead
(21:18):
of Sunday's game, so that one of the backups would
serve as the inactive emergency quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh Joe, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's already been reported that Bailey Zappi was taking a
lot of the practice squad snaps.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah. Basically, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment. He's
Kevin stefangis making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer. He's
making it basically Maury Povins. When Maury Povins does the
goddamn DNA test and the girl or the girl gets
up screaming and they run around with the camera. Yeah, yeah,
(21:53):
that's that's exactly what he's making. He's making a mockery
of the situation and enjoying it. Yeah, he's enjoying it.
Just enounce the goddamn quarterback? Who's quarterback number two? If
Bailey Zappi had been taking the practice reps knowing that
your door, Joe Flack, I'm going. If Sad was already
number three, and goddamn Dyllan Gable goes number one and
Joe Flack, I'm going, then that makes goddamn Stward number two.
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Why are we playing these goddamn mind games?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like my fav was Ojo. If he was, let's just say,
for the sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when
Joe Flacco was there, Joe Flaka was one, Bailey Zappi
was two. Excuse me, Dylan Gaber was two. Shruduor was three.
But the report said Bailey Zappi was getting the practice squad.
They signed them off somebody else team and put him
on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps
(22:40):
that Shador should be getting. So With that being said,
I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graber gonna
be taking all those reps and somehow come game come
up this regular season shauduor Sanda's gonna pull vault in
front of him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So if Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Zappi is taking those reps practice squad reps, Ojo, what's
the likelihood. Now I'm not saying it can't happen, but
what's the likelihood. I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure Cleveland know
what they're doing. Maybe they're waiting on the Shan to
come back. I don't know it since he's been out
there and he's been throwing and I don't know Ojo,
but I just know, look, they they've made a mockery
of this. Uh, we've talked about Cleveland more in the
first six weeks of this year than we have at
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any point in time. And it's not all good. But
I don't know what. I really don't know what to
make of this. It's, uh, we're gonna let it play out.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What I'm trying to what you're gonna let play out?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I can see if this was a training camp battle, Oho,
and let it play out. I'm trying to figure out
what can someone do in a week of practice? Oho,
that's gonna change your mind from where you stand right
now to movie like, oh well he had a great
week of practice?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Whooped to do?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The nothing at all?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Again? That's why I said, they're making a marcrate a situation.
That's all I.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Got filt this little mini Jim.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It's not a it's uh. They're asking him. They're asking
your door, Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What do you know?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
What do you what do you mean as that's Dylan Gabriel,
you ask him what do you think about? I'm not
playing as Dylan Gabriel? What is his think about Joe
Flacco being traded? Why are you asking me? I'm the
backup to the backup that got just got started. See,
they're always trying to put a microphone because they're always
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trying to get him to slip up. They're always trying
to catch him off his guard, don't Joe, They're trying
to They always trying.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They don't ask. They don't ask any other quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They don't ask the third string, or they don't ask
the practice squad guy. What do you think about somebody
getting traded, but somehow the microphone always seemed to find
your door. They're hoping he mess up. They he has
a proverbial slip. You see, that's why he's not starting.
You see, he needed to keep his mind closed. You see,
this is why he.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Did what he is a news cycle. It's the last name.
In general. They haven't had somebody this polarizing, that's not
even in that's not even in an important role as
of yet. They never had anybody like this before. They
haven't and they don't even know how to handle the
situation in general. Most of the time, in a situation
like this, when you have something as polarizing, a polarizing
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figure like that, you do everything you can to stay
away from it. But no, they're engaging with it in purpose.
They keep the Cleveland Browns in the news cycle. No
different than the god damn Dallas Cowboys, No damn different.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Man, If I should do, I say, look, man, when
I'm starting, When Coach Stefans can tell me I'm starting,
then I'll talk to you. Guys, what other backup quarterback
they're talking to?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You can't do that, though, but you understand the rules though,
you know you understand the rules.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But I'm trying to figure out, Oh yo, I'm trying
to think that they're not asking James Winson, no question.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They're not asking russ any questions. Now, all the questions.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are the Jackson Dark Guardia right right, So I'm my
only thing is okay? So why do you continuously ask
a backup that's not playing? Why are you continuously asking?
Why are you continuously asking them questions?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
What do you hope? What do you what do you
hope to get from him?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I can tell you what they're hoping. I can sound
I know, I know what they're hoping. Also, hey, they
they're hoping like when you go to the Army, like
when you go to the Marines, like when you go
to the Navy. They're trying to break you in the
beginning to see if you are the one. Are you
built for this? Mentally? That's all They waiting on the
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snap on They waiting on snap I'm telling you, he
has to understand it. I can see I can see
the plate. I can see the plate all the way.
I can see the play way before it happened, all
the way before a start. How can you not see it?
If you understand the game and the game that they're playing.
I can see it in clear as day. Your only
coming out saying some of the things he said, he
got training camp. Oh, I see what this is. Okay,
(27:05):
Now I got to play the game. I see what
I see what y'all trying to do? Right, You got
to play the game. Now. You you in their structuring environment.
You got to play by their rules.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Hey, Listen, even even I was in that position at
one point, he ain't wet. I got my toe in
the water. I got my toe in the water, but
my feet ain't wet, just as if yet. But once
once I got in the water fully. Oh but you've seen,
You've seen every bit of Day County, Liberty City come
up out of me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh Joe, we got breaking news. Another major trade between
the Giants and the Browns. Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom
and Jets twenty twenty six sixth round picks from the
brown Browns get Tyson Campbell the Eagles twenty twenty sixth
seventh round picks from the jag The trade partners from
the night of the twenty twenty five draft now pull
off another mid season trade.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Hey, listen. That's that's a good tribe. That's a good trade.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now I don't understand why they, yeah, the jag going
for it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh yeah, listen, especially for the Jags, I don't And
this is the thing I would get ready to say.
Greg Newsom is is a phenomenal uncle for sure. Greg
Newsom ain't no slouts. You know, we we understand what
Denzel Ward is on the other side, but when they
try to go to Greg Newsom side by, a young
boy can play some ball. So this is a win
for the Jags And with great understanding of why they
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did it is because, oh we're finn push all our
chips to the front. Were pushing all our chips to
the front because we really believe we have a chance
right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing. Yep,
that's that's respectable. And if you're a Jaguars fan, I
commend ownership. I commend your GM, and I commend you
God damn head coach. They're done, pushed all they chips
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on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We going in.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
He unk the chap, funny as hell, unk what happened?
They've just been going in on you. They going in
on me. Tell about it. I looked like Debo. I
look like a Mexican. This damn flat or home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And what they going on me?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
For?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
What I do? Nod? Go ahead? What I do? O? Yo?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They killing me?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
What they say I do? Hold on, Chad, what I do?
I was just asking. I was just asking a question. Damn.
I can't ask no questions.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
It ain't funny boy.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Look, I know you guys think, but here's the real
when it comes to track and field, I don't have
a research team. I'm old enough to remember, y'all. I'm
fifty seven. So I go all the way back. I
remember the eighty four Olympics. I remember Soul, I remember Barcelona,
I remember Atlanta, I remember Athens. What y'all want me
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to I remember Sydney was in two thousands after it
was the four, Beijing was eight, London was twelve, Rio
was sixteen twenty one. I remember what y'all want me
to do. I remember the World Championship when they came out.
I'm sorry that y'all came. Remember your way home, not
even our fault. I've told you if you know Shannon Sharp,
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if you watch me, at any point in time, I
told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes,
I love football and I know the history of football.
I know the history of basketball, but I love track
and field. It's I was playing around the track and field.
I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football,
I go to the gym. But when track and field long,
(30:27):
I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I
watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch
with the sound And for them to take their time
out to come on nightcap. What other platform other than
my boy Justin Gatling and his partner that give track
and field athletes the platform like we do talk?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, yeah, you're right, you're right by that, you know what.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'm sorry that, you know. I asked questions that I
think the chat would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
What do you eat? What are your training sessions? Like X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yes, so I'm just I'm confused at what y'all think
I was supposed to do, like like stutter or go
through it. Yes, there are no notes on here With
Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she's
a Florida lum. I know she from Colorado. I mean, yeah, y'all, don't.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Worry about it because they're still killing me. And they
told me I looked like Jody from Baby Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Man people weird.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean like like I'm not supposed to ask any questions,
Like I'm supposed to be like, uh.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
What do you? What are you like? No, I know
that I know the history.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I can't wait for us to have Ryan Crowzer on
so I can talk to him about the shot the greatest,
the greatest shot put her ever. Anna was talking about
the Jackie's record that she set him soul seventy to
ninety one. Seems unbreakable, that woman's shot put in the USS. Sorry,
ain't nobody breaking that one?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, you know it's funny. Is the same way you
are about track and field one of the one sporting,
one of the ones?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You like that about soccer?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh my god, well soccer, come on my phone on
do not to serve? Oh, you know, on Saturday and Sunday,
I'm mad. I fly to London in the morning, my
flight at five o'clock. I'm mad that I'm going to
London and everybody don't got them international break. Everybody on
international break, so out of the perfect time for me
to catch a goddamn g I can sneak you go
(32:27):
catch a game, right, everybody?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
O JO?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Does this mean we'll see Travis full time on offense?
Greg Newsom was the number twenty six pick in the
twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Tyson Campbell was picked thirty
three in that same draft, just seven picks apart.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
You know what, I'm curious what they're gonna do because
they have a phenomenal nigger in Jordan Lewis, Right, I'm
not sure who's on the other side, but you know
Greg news is coming in on one side, and he's
gonna he's gonna be that guy, that guy that can
do it. I still think they know Travis Hunter wants
to continue to contribut on defense. I think he'll continue
to have those packages. They're gonna find ways to fix
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to fit him in there at some point. But what
we saw offensively, he's too dynamic on They have to
find ways to getting the ball. On offense, he's too dynamic.
You put the ball in the area anywhere in the vicinity,
he's going to make that play, especially though jump balls
that are.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Where he can showcase his athleticism.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they become eighty twenty with somebody like that. Yeah,
so I mean, listen, he's too dynamic, you know, and
showing flashes of brilliance in which we saw at Colorado
on both sides of the ball. So I hope they
allow him to continue to doing doing this thing on
both sides have given them a healthy a healthy count
on both sides of the ball. We're going to be
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effective and efficient. But they don't overload him, and he's
able to He's able to play at his best on
both sides.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And that's what it comes down to, because they they
they need a special player, yeah, on one side of
the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if
he's average on both sides of the ball. Oh, Joe,
he has to be dynamic on one of the other, right,
because that's why you traded up on Yo, That's why
you gave up what you gave up to get it.
Because if you gave up what you get it and
you just got an average player, that that doesn't make
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sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him
be dynamic, and then you, like you said, bring him
in on the package.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean, personally, Joe, I still think he's better at defense.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I think it's his instincts, his ball skills are just
second to none. I know you like it because of
the jump ball, but right now it's just athletal system. Now,
once he learns the route tree. I give prime example Tyreek.
Remember when Tyreek first came in, he was a gadget guy,
and then all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree.
Tyreek has played his way into a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
(34:45):
Travis Hunter has thatcountability. He just got to get better
running the round. Right now, they're only running on spots
and jump balls.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, if I could get If I get Trav, I
know you're gonna see this. If I can get with
you in the off season, yeah, grateful that. If I
need you for two months two months, were working four
days a week all we all I need is an hour,
all your time for four weeks. I know you already
have your train. I'm not trying to step on nobody, tos.
I'm talking about running routes. Yeah, I'm talking about giving
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the illusion of doing something that you're really not at
full speed. Oh my goodness, brother, what I could do
with you, Oh my goodness, what I could do And listen,
now you know that's my specialty. Now I do man
ay trap. Come on Hall, let you boy in the offseason.
I don't need much time our day. That's it rock running.
(35:36):
I wish they would come up there and play press.
Come on up here if you want to.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Sh o Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Just days after his most embarrassing moment of the season,
Chief passed rushing Chris Jones addressed why he didn't give
maximum effort on the Jaguars game when he touchdown. Jones says,
that's a teaching point for me, the little adversity. I think.
I can't think the play is over. It's a learning lesson.
I thought it was over. I thought we had him down,
so I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate.
(36:04):
Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one
of the core leaders of the Chief and to see
him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Does some up.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But for me, I thought they were gonna let him score.
That's what I would have done on Joe that way.
Right now, I need maximum time. But I think it
kind of off guard that they was passing the ball
instead of running it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So I may maybe.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
CJ and I'm like I said, this is me thinking
for him because it's hard for me to believe that
I saw it in real time. I was like, damn, CJ.
But I thought that, and maybe they did think that
they were going to run the ball, and I think
they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball.
But in a situation like that, you know, you can't
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assume he knows that. I mean, he knew that, but
now he really knows that. And you know, obviously, and
they had a talk, Red had a talk talk to him.
It's just not a good look, and he knows that.
You're talking about one of the premier def tackles, a
three time Super Bowl champion, a multiple time All Pro player.
He's probably he's more than likely going to be the
(37:12):
All Pro defensive tackle of the twenty twenties. Can't have
that on your resume. Like you said, it's a teachable moment.
I don't think. I don't think we will have that
issue with CJ again.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you think about how many sixty
five snaps I'm not sure how many play on defense. Yeah,
all of them. All of them aren't one hundred percent effort.
But you can't look like you did on that play.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, can't. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
There's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron
Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as
the best defensive tackle in the game. So there's a
camera always on you from every goddamn angle.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Jones also said that social media accounts weren't deactivated as
an attempt to avoid criticism.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Oh your back of your date.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We didn't really have to deal with social media twenty
for seven to Twitter, you know viral takes. Do you
think athletes in today's game face more criticism than they
did in years past?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Well, absolutely absolutely, because not only you have to deal
with the media, you have to deal with the fans
as well. Now, before the fans, the fans had no
way of having access to you. You didn't have to
see it. You just have to hear it either on
radio or on TV. Now you deal with much more,
way more criticism, and they critique you way more. When
you don't play well, or things don't happen, or or
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you get hit hard or your fumbl the ball. You
got to deal with it from everybody and all the
social media. So you have to have thick skin on
you have to have thick skin, especially to be a
player in this era, especially to be a great player
in this era. It has to go on one end
out the other. You have to be able to ignore
it at times. You have to be able to laugh
at yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to
continue to function, you know, at a high level and
(38:58):
whatever respective craft it is you're doing, just not football
in general. You know, whether it be you know you're
a rapper, or you play you play football, you play tennis.
It's everything is everywhere now you know you you you
become a mean and sometimes you got you got to
take take the jokes for what they are, and you
have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, judge
(39:21):
yourself off and just go again.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, there's definite, There's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account,
they're a former NFL, NBA, MLB player, they're former coach,
former general manager, their former b Yeah, so now everybody
has an opinion and you can see their opinions show
up in real time. You're absolutely right, o, yo. With
the you're not getting away with anything. There was a
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time that the media would see a player doing something right,
and it would never make the news. It would never
make the papers. That ain't happening. Now, No, it's not happening.
If they see you do something, it's getting reported because
everybody wants to be first. Everybody wants to break the story.
It's like, he's gonna get out anyway, right, so let
me be the first to get it. So there is
(40:10):
no longer that that bond that used to be between
the great players and the reporters.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
That's over.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's over, and now everybody have a camera, So you
can't do even if you wanted to get away with something.
For the most part, it's hard to get away with
stuff now, right because just think about it, Jordan going
out the night before and playing and playing and gambling. Boy,
that was gonna be on somebody. Look at Michael Jordan
before he played the Knicks. This Michael Jordan at the
(40:39):
game at the blackjack table, y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Cameras everywhere to now everywhere. The funny thing knowing Jordan's
and how he was, his mannerisms, his persona in general,
and he wouldn't give to you know what.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh absolutely don't. Why you think you don't see his
ass out.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Now, Well, he really can't be out.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able. Jordan hadn't
been able to be Mike Jordan since he was at
U n C. Yeah, the moment he hit the league
did that, it was over. Yeah, and really and when
he got those red and black shoes, it was good,
(41:20):
not ireen.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, it was a rap.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
It was a rap.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, I think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Old Joe he could, He's really Michael Jackson. They've really
never been able to enjoy. I mean, you got to
rid the whole movie theater. You want to go out
to a movie, you gotta writen the whole theater out.
You want to take this kids skate, you gotta wit
the whole the whole skating rink out.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I couldn't live like that.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It would be hard.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Everything everything is off, everything is, everything is on the microscope.
Just imagine how everything how everything looks so big on
the microscope.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That's how you look in the public eyes.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Not that I don't mind, I don't care. I don't
careing about the microscope because what you see is what
you get. What you see is what you get. I
don't I don't play a character. This is just me
but the whole not being able to go anywhere. I
am too sociable. I love conversing with people. I love
I love seeing people and hugging and saying.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You wouldn't be that way if you was that you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, you can't be Why you couldn't be like that
with that kind of money to get you?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
You about the money, the money wise?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay, okay, yeah, what person you know that popular and
don't have money?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I got money. Now
what you're saying not like that?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Okay, okay, they but it chop your head off.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I got a question. What what can Michael Jordan and
Lebron do that I can't do?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Go to the mall? They can't do that. Uh uh.
We just talked about it. Man. What you can't do?
(43:10):
You can't go? You you mean you you, But that's
what you have to be able to do. If you're
a jay Z, What jay Z gonna go? What be?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
What Beyonce gonna go? What Taylor Swift's gonna go? You
think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend? Girl, Let's
go to the mall. Girl, Let's go get us a
drink where are they going?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm one of the I'm I'm. I've always been accessible.
I don't care how big I get, which is probably
why God would never bless me with that type of
with that type of wealth, because he knows damn where
I'm gonna be at the mall. He know damn where
I'm gonna be at the McDonald's drive through. He knows, well,
I'm gonna be at every soccer game I can get to.
(43:49):
It's not happening, you know, damn. Where I'm gonna still
be on my grandma porch in Liberty City, and that
everybody driving around to see him sitting out there. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I mean, you might be.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You might be out there, but you have security, and
then you're gonna be up in the box.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
You ain't gonna be in there. You ain't gonna be
in the stands.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It ain't the same when you when you go to
a sporting event.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You're not the same. You look at that through the
prism that you're the same. You're not the same. You
can still have some of the same friends, and y'all.
But they come to you, right, they go someplace, they
take the whole island over. You see most of the
time you see them. What do you see them at
(44:30):
on the yacht? When you see jay Z? How many
security you see with him? How many in that detail?
That security detail? When you see Mike. Damn, that's that's
your life now, O yo, that is your life.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's private. Jest. It ain't no more spirit, It ain't
no more in the airport, it's not that.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh so you're telling me if I reached that type
of wealth, I can't fly spirit.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'm you're not flying that. That sounds good, but you're
not signed that. You're not gonna be worth a billion dollars,
five billion dollars, ten billion, thirty billion dollars them fly
that you're not. That's just like you don't buy to
say you buy chrome hearts. You but you see what
you spend your money off. And I guarantee you when
you were younger, you like, ain't no way I spent
(45:12):
this much money for a car.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Wait a minute, I didn't. I didn't buy chrome hearts.
That was a gift for my baby.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You a so everything that you got is a gift
from your baby, the watching, that jewelry, that cuban, that house,
you got all that gifts.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh no, no, no exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You see, you see how you move accordingly to the resources.
So just imagine I gave you two you weren't two
billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, let's let's reset it. Let's let's hypothetic speaking.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Okay, you were two billion.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, So tell me what you
think I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And uh, you.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Not walking You're not walking in You're not walking in
the regular airport. You're gonna fly private because you have
the kind of means to fly private.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
And uh because you're not gonna run Oh Jo, You're
not gonna run the risk. You're a high value target. Yeah,
and I know why you think everybody is your friend.
When you get that kind of money, you build up
a lot of enemies.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Also, damn I got you think I got enemies right now?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Hell yeah, absolutely. And the more money you get, the
more the more you get, the more dissension.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Dislike, jealousy, envy, but I'm along with it.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody in.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
The world what biggest, say more money, more problems. He
did say more money.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
He didn't say more money, more friends, more money, more problems.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Right by that, you're right, But I just don't understand
how anybody can not like me like I want you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
That's the only way I'm gonna get my fifty down
hunter back. That's the only one I'm geting fifty down
hundred back if you get.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
A b not really, I get to you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Not.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
But I told you as long as that, oh, you'll
never go broke.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Well, I just see it.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
It's better. It's better shuited in my hands as opposed
to yours.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
So you drawed interest on my money.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I ain't join interest on your money. But I just
got your best interest.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
You see how that wor I can show you that
fifty man, I got you, I got you a few bills.
I need to pay what you need to pay.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
A Hey, I can loan you something if you need it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh, so you you owe me, but you will have
to loan me money.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
You gonna loan me by money? Chat? How that makes sense? Chat?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
This man just told me he owed me money, but
he gonna loan me my money.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Listen, I ain't gonna loan you the money out what
I owe you. I'm I'm gonna loan you some money
out of it.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Oh you will pay me and then loan me extra.
Yeah yeah, okay, okay, No, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
But I think I look, I think, uh, I think everybody.
I think everybody not yet understands the level of scrutiny
that these athletes face today. The older athletes didn't have
to they didn't have to worry about that. They didn't
have to worry about that, they didn't have to worry
about their business being because if somebody want to tell.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Your business, where were they going?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Mm hmm oh oh he had recording somebody's phone call,
you having somebody having cameras, you know, pay coming in
and out.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Hey, I'm seeing a lot of that, lady. I'm seeing
a lot of that, lady, and not not not sportsblady
in general. But I thought that was a federal offense.
I thought that was a felony and recording someone.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It all depends on what state you're in. Oh, Okay, California. Yeah,
they tell you, they tear you.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Up with that.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Got you can't record uh now a call and someone's
now you have no no, no, no leg to stand
on in a public setting for privacy. You can't be
out the park and talk about, man, don't feel me. Nah,
you can't be in the airport talking about don't film me.
(49:11):
You do have a level of privacy in your own home,
you do have a level. Like some states, it do on'tly
matter that the person that's taping you recording you know
that that's happening. Other than that, so it all depends
on the state. That varies from state to state. But
this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys Serena and
(49:36):
the women's athletes and the men athletes today, yeah, it's
not even it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Even Mike said it. Mike said he don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
How he would be able to function with this social media.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
After five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped the NFL quarterback ranking.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Here they are.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Josh Allen is number one, Patrick Mahomes is number two.
I'm only gonna do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three,
Lamar Jackson is four, Jered Goff is five, Dak Prescott
is six, Baker Mayfield is seven, Justin Herbert it's eight.
Jordan Love is nine, Drake may is ten. Okay, just
for the sake of right, we'll go through fifteen. Daniel
(50:18):
Jones is eleven, Jaydeon Daniels is twelfth, Sam Donald is thirteenth,
Jalen Hurts is fourteenth, c J. Stroud is fifteenth, Bow
Knicks is twenty, Jake Browning is thirty.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Can I be honest with you, Yes, I'm not sure
when they made that list, but Daniel Jones and Baker
Mayfield belongs somewhere to the top, along with joshin Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
If we're just talking about this year, Baker Mayfield got
to be in the top five.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen whatever. Listen it is and
whenever it came out it was basing. Sure it's done
so far up into up to this week in the season,
week five or week six, whatever. Yes, for sure, Daniel
Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top
of that somewhere. Sam Donald needs to be in there
as well.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, just if we're just starting baking it on this week,
I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be one. Right,
We're not Look, we're not talking about Look, we understand
what Josh Allen's done.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
We understand Patrick mahoons is done.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
We understand with Matthew Stafford's done, and we know the
MVPs that Lamar's done. But if we're talking, if we're
basing it on the first five weeks of this season,
they having out those guys, having out played Baker Mayfield,
I'm sorry, And y'all know how I feel about Patrick
Mahomes and I love everybody that they got ranked, but
they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks playing
(51:36):
better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't
care what your fan base is. I don't care if
your bill, I don't care if your achieved. I don't
care if you're the Rams Baltimore. There are not seven
six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
They're not hell Shit or Daniel Jones for that matter, No,
they're not. He's a surprised I didn't know. I mean,
I could be I'm one of them. I was a culprit,
you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed. Yes, third,
he wasn't, based on what we saw from him in
New York and for him to come to Indy and
do what he's doing. I'm like, man, what in the
(52:14):
world he done? Flip the whole script in the system.
He's playing phenomenal football.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Man.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
So I wanted to be the first to say I
apologize and I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I told you to go start.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You ain't paying the guy that the incombing guy, the
incumbent starter, which was Richardson, is making four or five million.
They bring a backup in making fourteen million, and you
think the guy is making fourteen million, gonna be on
the bench.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh yeah, that wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's not happening. O. YO.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
With the game that you just watched, do you think
Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at fourteen if you were listen,
we're not talking. He won the Super Bowl, He's super
Bowl MVP. Based on what you've seen through the first
five weeks of the season. Has he played better than
Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake may did Jordan Look?
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Has he played better than those guys?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put
it that way. If anything, you know he's appropriately ranked.
He's appropriately ranked based on what they ask him to
do offensively, what they ask him to do offensively where
the numbers are not going to be like any of
those guys that's that's ahead of him. So what he's
asked to do, he is appropriately ranked right where he is,
(53:31):
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All I know is they're not sick. They're not six
quarterbacks that's currently playing the quarterback position better than shaking bait.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
They're just not shaking bake. They're not.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Look, look, we know Patrick Mahomes is the most accomplished
you know, three super Bowl, three Super Bowl MVPs.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
You know he's been in the super Bowl five times.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
He's been in the AFC Championship every year that he's
been a start, He's never not been in the NFC
AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
We get all that, Lamar.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
The two time league MVP Josh Allen is a one
time league MVP. Matthew Stafford led a team to the
Super Bowl. I get all of that, and kudos those
guys accomplished that, and you can't take that away from them.
But I'm sorry, those guys are not playing the position
better than Baker Mayfield is playing the position. It's just
(54:26):
that simple. Then, ain't got nothing to do with what
he might do moving forward. They said the first five weeks.
That says, after five weeks, Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking.
So they're saying, after five weeks of this year twenty
twenty five, nothing that happened twenty twenty four, going back,
nothing that's gonna happen week six. Moving forward, they said,
the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield play
(54:47):
better than everybody. Yeah, and he has, and its record
is just they.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Only lost one game. Josh Allen lost one game.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Patrick Holme, I don't know what the reokord uh Lamar
Jackson's won and four Matthew staffords. I think they've lost
two games. Jerry Goson lost the game. Dak I think
they're two two in one.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, what about what the coach lost one?
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Coach lost one, Yes,
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