Best of NFL News Part 1: Shedeur QB1, Grandpa Rivers in Indy, and Pickens SORRY?!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the sports, stay for the stories. All right, o job,
But here's the deal. The Browns that finally named your
door their starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

(00:20):
No more week to week bull Jye. Here'sski had to
say about it today.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I think all along Mary Kay, as you know, with
our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure
that you're making the right decisions for our guys.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
He's he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each
one of these games, and how he's approached this game.
He's been working very hard, so I feel good about
where his development is heading. He knows there's there are
always going to be plays that he can be better
and those type of things, but he's very intentional about

(00:56):
getting better each and every game he's out there.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Kevin, all right, was it a mistake not to start
Shooter earlier?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm not going to get into those type of things, Uh, Tony,
I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean that's better when you can actually when
he can actually get on the field and show you
what he can do something on the side, flipping the
ball and and and and and going through his drop
backs when he ain't throwing to nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Look, Oh, Joe, yeah wait, I want to hear what
you got to say on this. I mean, I was
just gonna say, it's a good thing. There's no there's
no more confusion, and you're not looking over your shoulder.
You can go out there. You can lock in and
do what you need to do. Preparation. You say it
all the time. I've said it all the time, and
that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life
in general. When preparation meets opportunity, and when opportunity meets preparation,

(01:49):
this is what you get. You get games like this.
So the more the more he gets to to jail
and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and
his receivers and in his office alignement, the better he's
going to look on the field. And just to think
about it, if I think about what he would look
like if you look like this in his third game,
what do you think it would look like if you've
been playing all season long. There's nothing we can do

(02:11):
about that. All we can do is think about is
start from will be all right now the game you
had last week? What you want to do is you
want to build off of that, build off of that
and continue to go forward, finish the season off strong.
So they have no choice. So they have no choice
even if you might be auditioning for another team. Listen,
we can take him. But if he can do what

(02:32):
he's doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, a man,
if you were able to bring him in here where
we have a better supporting cast to put it around him.
So I think he's auditioning still. If he's not going
to be in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another
job somewhere else where he can be the starter and
not have to worry.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Can Stefans can not say shah is sah words? Is
that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't you just
say the man? Why can't he say the man's name?
Why did say when we deal it with young players?
You know what I think? I think your doors regress
very very well. I like I like what I've seen,
even though when he wasn't playing you can tell a

(03:15):
guy that's being very attentive. Uh, the guy that's that's
that's a very attention to detail. You see the way
he takes copious notes when he's in meetings.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
You see the way he goes.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
About his business at practice, although he wasn't getting reps
with the with the starters, and he didn't start getting
reps til later in the season. It's okay, excuse me,
it is okay, tomit we made a mistake. It's okay
to say, you know what, yeah, maybe if things look different.
We all have the luxury of hindsight. It's a magnificent science.

(03:47):
We have the luxury of knowing today what we didn't
know yesterday. I get that, and I get your questions,
and all your questions are very very valid.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
But if I were to.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Answer you her question, if I would ask you the
reporters question in honesty, now.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I look bad. This organization looked bad. Right.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You see what you just did. Did you see how
you answered that question so eloquently. Not only do you
not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a word
in there. I don't know what they hell admit. So
that's why I raised them a That's why I raised
my finger. I wanted to go back to that because
what kind of notes did he take?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Again?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Oh? Well, and you've been here for sorrus.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Is.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
People have a hard time, and I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's hard because we don't like to be wrong, and
if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit
that we're wrong. But I think I think it shows growth.
I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and
we're mad or we're warming enough to say that I
was wrong, that I wish we could have done something differently,

(04:59):
whatever the whatever the reasons were, I was wrong, And
you have to be man or woman enough to say
that I was wrong in order for you to sincerely
and in order for you to have growth. Now, if
he didn't want to answer, I think we know the answer, chat.
I think we know the answer. Why he didn't want
to answer. That was it the mistake not to start him?
Because I would like to think their record would be

(05:22):
better than what it was now it could be checked.
I mean, now we're we're sitting here saying they could
have won probably two more games, given that should do it.
Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have
the exact the identical record. We'll never know, but it's
hard to get somebody admit when they're wrong and we

(05:45):
see in real time what's actually happening, and we seeing
and a whole lot of guys think about it, and
he's got probably the i think the fifth, the fourth
or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that
wasn't taken in the first round.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So uh, it's it's I'm glad he's getting an opportunity
to start the teams that he's up. The Bears are
nine and four, they're playing in Chicago. The next game
the Bills nine to four, playoff team Steelers at home, uh,
the division leader, and then they finished on the road

(06:24):
at your for at your Bengals, which could have some
playoff implications for the Bengals, not for obviously Cleveland's not
going anywhere. And also all all depends on what would
they try to do?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
O Jue?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Did they start like this because they trying to get draft,
they're trying to get positioned for the draft?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
What what? What were what were they what were they hoping?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because you know, Joe Flacco is what Joe Flacco will
is you know now, I mean, the guy's forty plus
years old.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Uh, you know what he is. He's streaky, he'll win
your game or two.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And but he's always been and always has been, always
will be a turnover machine.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's what he is.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I have no idea. Your guess is as good
as mine. We've been trying to figure out what the
Browns been doing with their organization for a very long time,
not just this year, but the past thirty some years,
especially at the quarterbackquisition. They haven't got it right in
a very long time, and still to this day. Still

(07:21):
to this day, they still haven't answered that question. And
the one that looks like it might be promising, they
still have an issue with that. So it looks like
what they're trying to do based on some of the
things that that we've seen, some of the things that
we've heard come out of that locker room of that
organization in general, they still don't think the person that

(07:43):
is at the Helm right now is the answer. They don't.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean, and I really hate to feel this way,
but a part of me like, yeah, we're gonna let
him start the rest of the season. Oh Bears, Bills
Steelers Bengals, you do are like, No, I'm good. I
already showed y'all what I can do putting him in there.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I want him to play against the Bears. I want
him to play against the Beers. I want him to
play against the Steelers because I wanted to. I want
him to show that I'm a competent quarterback. Yes, to
be at the highest level as a rookie if given
the right amount of time to prepare.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Right, that's what I want.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I want him. I wanted to have Oh no, no.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
No, you oh Joe, but this is not a mistake.
They picked these games and they why couldn't you name it?
Ask the start of three games ago? Why was it week?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
The week?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Because every you know what, every time he don't want
to answer a question. He always said, well, I don't
want to get into that, right, I don't want to
get into that because they ask you, they ask him before,
which is you do a go to start? Well, I
don't want to get into that. Let's look at the
film and all that. Brother, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Wait, no, no, no, no, that's not true. That's not true.
Because after the first game and they asked him, is
he going to start? The next game. He wanted to
see if he could do it again. What is he
gonna look like again? And if you look bad, what's
the first thing you think se Fancy was gonna do.
He's gonna put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's that's
why he has a all right, I don't want to

(09:09):
answer that right now. I don't know, but Shador gave
you no choice. May could you imagine after he played,
after he played this game, after he played this last
game in the game before that, if he was the
bench you too, bench to about losing your locker room
at that hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you
one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee

(09:30):
you one of the veterans that spoke out.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
They're probably already speaking out.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
I mean, it ain't get out. It ain't get out
in the public yet.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, No, I mean you know, and I think the
thing is, look, the last thing that you want to do,
because Dylan is still your teammate, it's not his fault.
You can never blame a player for an organization or
coach's decision.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh, I can't get mad at you because they put
his ass in there. I can't get mad at that.
I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted
him before me. Dad got nothing to do with me.
I wish him the best. I'm gonna support him as
best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the
guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But
I tell you, in a couple of years, you're gonna

(10:14):
wish you like Damn. I'm glad we took this guy
in the seventh round. We probably shouldn't taken it in early. Yeah,
So I'd never begrudged the guy because they didn't draft themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himselves.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
All.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm happy now, and for me, I'm glad they came
to this conclusion.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Did it take longer than I think it should have?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yes, I think most people believe that it took longer
than what it should have.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But at the end of the day, they got it right.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have.
Dylan Gabriel was the third round pick on Dylan Gabriel
was their third round pick, and he was the successor
to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on automatically.
Dylan Gabriel goes into the lineup, and it's time to
see what he can do. It didn't go well, it

(11:04):
didn't go well. Now should do. It's time to see
what they can do.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yep, that's all. And he's only gonna get better. I
mean here, gonna have some growing pains. He's not gonna don't.
I don't see him throwing for three sixty four and
four having four touchdowns every game. But I tell you
what all I need to see is improvement. All I
need to see. And I saw some stuff late in
the ball game that I saw, the mistakes that he
made earlier that he self corrected. That's when you know

(11:29):
a guy gets it when you can self correct on
the fly.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh Joe, Oh you get it. Yeah. Oh. He definitely
all we want to see.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I mean, shot in that organization as a head coach,
as a GM, as teammates, not only improving week to week,
but giving us a chance, give given us a chance
that we can compete week in and week out.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
That's all you want.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
And that's all that's all you can ask for. Consistency.
How can consistent? Can you be offensively to give us
a chance. That's it.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, so you doors your ball, pick it up and
run with it. Bro do what you do? You got
four You got the four. You got four games, these
last four games, it is about you know what, we
got our guy.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
We got our guy.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Let's go in the draft and get an offensive lineman,
a receiver, h a linebacker or no. I like this linebacker,
that ricky linebacker in the forty night he held. Maybe
get somebody go opposite of a get I don't know,
but Shador's job is to show them they don't need

(12:46):
a quarterback. Yeah, that's his job, yep. And then build
a team how they best see. I don't know if
we should trust them to build a team, but I
just think the thing gives O Joe that we we
just showed them, show them that you got the right guy,
because he said it. I'm gonna show him what. I'm

(13:07):
what they've been looking for. M I'm what they've been searching.
They've turned over a lot of stones.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know sometimes, oh show you gotta kiss a lot
of dragons to find your princess.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So they've had thirty five they had damn nears made
the money made the quarterbacks. We've had us presidents. Yeah,
but she doing say it starts with me, It stops
with me.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
No more.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You're gonna have You're gonna have peace and prosperity for
the next decade.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I like it. I like it a matter of fact.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Hey, uh, I'm one of the chats the chat. Heard
about that too. You heard about damn. I mean this
is this is sad for me. Mister Cup. You heard
about mister Cup. No, yeah, man, his wife left him.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh lord, here we go.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, now he's a solo Cup.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I do it with something. I do it with something.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Indianapolis Coasts are in desperate need of a quarterback, so
they've gone to a desperate measure to find one. With
starter Daniel Jones out for the rest of the season
due to orn achilles and back up Riley Leonard Nursey
can write knee injury that cloudy status for Sunday game
at the Sea at the Seahawks, the Coats called Philip
Rivers to potentially save their season. The Coats are flying

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Rivers to Indianapolis for a workout Tuesday, and with the
possibility of signing the eight time Pro bowler. Rivers, who's
forty four and became a grandfather in recent years, has
not played in the NFL since twenty twenty. However, the
Coats are sitting at eight and five in the think
of an AFC playoff rates.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
They peak a Rivers interest.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
They peaked Rivers interest enough to him to contemplate potentially
coming out of retirement.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hold up, he's like one of the numbinies would hold right? Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
If Rivers were to join the Coats after active rosters,
it presents a very unique scenario regarding his potential induction
to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Rivers is one
of the twenty six modern era players who are semi
finalist for the twenty twenty six class. Yet the moment
he joins an active roster, his eligibility clocks.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It resets, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and he would have to wait an additional five years.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, listen, I like it. I like it for him.
I like the opportunity for him, even though he's forty four.
As a quarterback, I think the Eagles are still in
a good and a good position to make the playoffs.
You need a quarterback, Huh, Who do I say?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Eagles.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh my bad. The culture in a good position to
still make the playoffs. We need someone a quarterback that's
a veteran that give us a veteran presence, that that
can throw the ball, that can be that can command
the offense, be a leader and keep us afloat unktay.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
They wanted they wanted him to come. They wanted him
to come back. So why did he leave if he
still had interest, he.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Wanted to go back. Maybe he didn't have interest. Maybe
now after four years.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
He wanted to come back and play after five years, okay, five,
Oh that's him.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Hey, he rested up, shoulders, good, throwing motion, everything good.
Body's heeled up a little bit. Man, he might come
back and go crazy out there.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Man, you don't think so, No, I mean, can't he
throw the ball? Sure?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh yeah, but he has no mobility. Yeah no, he
has zero mobility. He has even less mobility. Now he
really never had any mobility. So imagine him at forty four.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, hey he can. He can slinging that rock even
though he got a funny got a funny throwing motion.
Gonna let it, We're gonna let it rip.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh yeah, I mean you know what sixty thousand yards,
four hundred plus what four hundred and twenty something touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, he was having a player, he was.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean, listens the point that they didn't win more
than what they won. You figure, they got Gates in
the Hall of Fame. LT's in the Hall of Fame.
He's on the ballot for the Hall of Fame. I
mean mean they finished number one offense and defense and
didn't even make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Go figure, damn.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I mean Cat was right there. Oh, Cam was right
there too. Cam ain't nowhere forty.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Playing no football. Cavin told y'all didn't want to play
no football. Let that sink in. So what that tell you? Athey, Richardson,
let that sink in. Now a man that got ten kids,
got grandkids, that's been retired from the NFL for five years.
You sitting on that bench. They took you with the
third overall pick three years ago. What does that say

(18:20):
about you?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yam?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Or?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Is he? Oh that's right. He had his shoulder his
shoulder again, my bad, bro.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Huh he broke it over the win?

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh that band? Was it? The band? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Damn, the Coats have some terrible ass. Look, they just
got Ward back remember he collided on the field.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, he just got back.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
They gave two number one picks for Sauce. Sauce out
with a calf injury. They paid all this. They Daniel
Jones and now.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
He heard you got Achilles.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, they went, oh Joe, they went all in, all
in with saus gave up two number ones for him. Yeah,
fifteen million for Daniel Jones, and it seemed like it
was money well spent. It's oh, I don't. I don't
think Philip Rivers is the answer. I don't.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Well, you got unc You got to give him a
chance first, got you the man party four? Hey, you
gotta give him a chance. Him at forty four might
be better than than than than some of some of
the product we see in Lady.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I'm surprised, o Jo.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I fractured my orbital and I was out three weeks
right the season ended, but.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
They had cleared me to play.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
How they how?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Uh? What's his name? Anthony Richardson? Fraction is orbitally gone
for like two months?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
You know them, pew, don't you know you already know
what to get? You know where the play is?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
With that Ojo?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I would want him, I would actually Ojo I would
want him practicing because I want him to see it
in real time. I don't want him away and he
might still be there, but o jo. I honestly, you
know you can't get ojo. You need to be in uniform.
You need to be practicing, take the months to recover.
But I don't like this because I missed three weeks.

(20:28):
I practiced my orbital o Jo. It's painful, but I
was cleared after three weeks to come back and play.
Now the season ended. The season ended. They just told
me I need to wear a shield because channel you
can't afford to get it in the eye again. Okay, clearly,
but I think he wears a shield anyway.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, he's not touching a feel regardless.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
You think it's over for him.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, really, the way Daniel Jones has been playing really okay.
But Daniel Jones hurt. Now he got a key Leeson
and he and he's the third string quarterback. He's not
the second string quarterback, which is why they're bringing it,
which is why they're bringing in Philip Rivers. Huh.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I said that'd have been the perfect opportunity for Anthony
Richardson to play.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
They gave the opportunities already.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
So he done.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, it's not me. I'm not part of the organization.
I'm just saying. I mean the writers on the wall.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Riley Leonard is from the hometown that Philip Rivers is from.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Philip Rivers. What is his mentor?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
So he's been working with him where he worked with
him in the off season.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Right, and that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Shane Stacken was asked about ar today and said he's
not sure if Anthony Richardson would be able to return
before the season is over.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Says, right now, he's not ready. I told you, O Choe.
Well you the one just said no damn season long injury.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
You just you just see I just told you that.
I just said that.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
O Joe.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh, when did he get hurt?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
It ain't even about getting hurt. He's saying he's not ready.
I don't think he talked about the injury.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I know he's not.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
He did, oh, Jo, But think about that. Let that
figure for a SECONDO Joe. You a backup receiver. You
a backup receiver, You twenty four years old, and the
call they call lamb fitsh Gerald to come out of retirement.

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You right there on the roster.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
He had two years. He had two years.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oldo o jo the man that had got hurt on
October to twelveth so eight basically eight weeks ago. Oh
yeah yeah, and you uh sports tracks. You look at
guys that are uh on the current NFL practice squad
are Trevor Simeon is Tennessee, who's been a starter, Sam Hartman,

(23:10):
Cole mc kyle McCord. I mean they, I mean, Brett
Ripping is in there and there he was a starter
in Denver, C J. Bethart, Sam Ellinger, Will Griers in Dallas,
Bailey ZAPPI damn, yeah, well you have it. You have

(23:39):
it over room yeah, hell yeah, yeah. You're mission is
gonna be timporarily a players.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I had it absolutely. I was seeing triple Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
But you already know what the play is with that man, Anthy.
I mean, they gave him opportunity after the opportunity after opportunity.
He didn't do anything with him, And I think they
just don't see don't see a situation where giving him
another opportunity to prove himself would work. There's a reason
why they signed Danny Dimes that one year that we

(24:08):
understood that, but at that point. You know that ship
is sell.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Doctor.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
He saw his first coach game, so he hadn't been
at practice. The doctors advised him to stay at home
and rest. I don't know every Every injury is different,
so I shouldn't look. I'm just telling you I had
the injury. Three weeks I was cleared, and they just
told me and the whole next year. Oh Joe, I
wore a shield because I could. I can ill afford.

(24:50):
It's kind of like after the David's got to wear
goggles because the doctor says, if you get poked in
the eye one more time, you might end up losing
vision in that eye.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Same thing would create. So I get it. I get it.
Oh chose earlier. I gave you good news. Now I
am never bad now.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, huh, let
me get comfortable. Damn.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
The Bengals will be without defensive end Trey Hendrickson for
the rest of the season. He's expected to undergo core
muscle surgery. Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
He suffered the injury back in Week six.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Then it hasn't played since Week eight after he sustained
a hip injury. There was hope he will return at
some point this season, but that won't be the case.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, what's the bad news he ain't coming back?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Well, uncle, but hell, he ain't been there the past
few weeks anyway.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh okay, my bad. I thought you was gonna miss him.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I mean, I mean, hell, I mean, ma'am. He been
hurt a.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Shelf so that core muscle, probably that sports hernia surgery
from lifting.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's probably living too damn heavy. That's why I need see, man,
That's why I need to be all these injuries.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Man, It just they oh Joe, that man, that man
is a defensive lineman. He can't be eating no little vitals.
He can't be no vegetarian eating that stuff. They Rudy's
ass up out of there.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Nah, they ain't what I'm talking about, man, Like they Okay,
if you're not gonna listen to me as a nutritionist,
at least listen to me as a strength and conditioning coach, hey, y'all,
at least like, come on, man, you still y'all be
laughing and making fun of me though I played all
the years with no injuries. Man, People like it's not registering. Man. Oh,

(26:46):
they keep they keep listening to all these damn specialists
and all these professionals. But for some reason, everybody keep
getting hurt, non contact injuries. Uh, they pulling this, they
tearing that, Like, come.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
On, man, Yoe, you just fortunate.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Hey, hey listen, ain't nothing fortunate whenning the lottery is fortunate.
What I was able to do that ain't number God.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes, yes, and you didn't get hurt.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's what I did. I can't. Man.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
You look at you.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You you play this game of football. It's hard. You're
very fortunate. You wanted a few that played this game
and didn't really have any injuries, and you walked up
the feeld as healthy as you walked on it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, because because I was the one delivering the punishment.
I was delivering the punishment. I was the savage. I
was that boy. I was that boy out there.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I know I was key kid had and entertaining, but man,
I was I was an animal out there.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
I had them boys scared. Man, Man, I ain't gonna
say nothing. I ain't gonna say nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh, Yoe, it doesn't come as a surprise because I
told you this was gonna happen. To tell you, some
types of sideline reporter will Bowling has been removed from
the team's charter flights going forward. Bowling shared something that
he witnessed on the plane ride of a trip home
from Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
After week fourteen.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Bowling addressed the situation during his daily radio show and
apologize for relay in the story and that has now
understands he should have been considered off the record. Yes,
everything that you if they're not if they're not speaking
directly to you, is off the record.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
You don't get to go. You don't get to go
on the team plane.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Do you know how many reporters have seen things on
the team fight plane or who's laid or who's Maybe
they've been a fight, maybe they've been some some some
things that shouldn't have been going on because back then
we used to have the little portable DVDs and guys
be watching things they should be watching. Hey, guys be
drinking and things of that nature. You keep your mind shut. Yeah,

(29:01):
he got to learn the hard way. Now you got
to fly find your all way to the city. And
guy's gonna be like, man, we can't trust old boy.
Old boy go It gonna.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Be like, yeah, hey, listen, they for one you've give
an opportunity to to to to have access, to be around,
to to be on those charter flights. And you can't
just take everything you see and try to use it,
to use it to your advantage. And yes, and you
and make it a story. Now now you Now you're outside,

(29:31):
you know, outside the window, looking peeking through the blinds.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Now I'm not even sure where he I mean for
years going forward where they probably where they where they
probably not.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
He probably won't be allowed on. He probably will not
be allowed back on the plane.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Now now you're done messed up. You don't mess up.
You don't messed up a good opportunity just to have
a story.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yes, everything, Oh Joe, I give you prime example. I remember,
uh Peyton Manning's first year, Yeah, first year in Denver.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh, we're doing the story. And I watched him practice. Yeah,
he hadn't had this all year. He's throwing with a glove. Yeah,
oh it's cold, but remember he had that nerve damage,
but proud of that. He had been throwing bare handed. Right,

(30:21):
I see him, he's practicing with a glove. I see
all these gloves in his locker. It would have been
nothing for me to take a pair he got twenty
of them in his locker right, put him in my
bag and says, guys, this is what Peyton mann is
gonna be throwing the football with today. He did have
been a great story Shannon Brak's News Peyton Manning. And

(30:43):
sure enough he comes out there throwing like, oh nah, bro,
everything ain't meant ain't meant to be said? Yeah, yeah
everything plus that is my team until they trust me.
I got free raid, oh Joe. I go anywhere I
want to. I know the cold.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I pushed the cold. Hey they don't. I punched the cody.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Going in right right right where I want to go.
I go upstairs, I go to mister Bowling's office, I
go walking around. I'm in coaching. I mean, I go
to John Fox and I go to job, I go
everywhere I see.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
So so we the same with the access you have
and in Denver is the same way I am down
in Cincinnati. And the funny thing about it, you know,
I think while we have that access the way you do,
and and and for me it's always arms are always
open and welcome because I don't take advantage of it.
I only go there maybe twice a year, maybe twice
a year.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
You know that that that's it.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
And I think if think, I think, if knowing the
access that I do have and the love that they
do show in that stadium where I can go from
top to bottom and I can go anywhere I want anywhere,
if I did it all of goddamn time, they'd be like,
all right, now, come on, let me.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I used to be able to do that. I don't
have that access anymore now. Oh no, I don't know.
I don't go back.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
They they invite me back for alumni things and uh
uh uh brought you know, the Super Bowl teams and
stuff like that. When guys get to go to the ring,
go to the Ring of honor. I haven't been back.
I have a great relationship. I met uh the Waltons,
I met Dependers, I met all of them. They were
great to me, had a great conversation, but I don't

(32:16):
know them like I knew mister Bowling them. You know,
maybe I take some time and I go back and
and you know, sit down and have a conversation with him.
But I'm like you oo, I'm never gonna wear out
my welcome. Even though I had the access that I had,
I didn't go back and take advantage of it, you know,
and I would go back when they invited me. When

(32:37):
it came time for the Super Bowl, you best believed.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
He yeah, you were there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So hey, listen, you know I'm excited on you know,
I'm excited. So obviously, most of the time I was
doing one year since since I retired, one game of year.
I always made it, made it out to one game year.
This will be the first year since I retired. And
what was that, I mean, sincely left there, since I
left yet where I'm going to a second game. I'm

(33:02):
going to a second game. Obviously, I'm not counting the
Ravens game. I'm not counting the Ravens game, you know,
and Thursday night on Thanksgiving. But this Sunday, I'm going back.
I'm going back for the Ravens game. And I mean,
it's just just what the warmth and the welcome and
the grace that they've shown me when I am no
longer any value to you, I'm no longer any value

(33:25):
to you, and they still treat me that. Whether it
be the fans, whether it be ownership Zach Taylor, whether
it be the players with open arms.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's like I'm and.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
The fact that they still treat you like that when
you're no longer of any value. I'm not on the payroll.
I'm not on the payroll.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Play there. I think the fans appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Fans fans know who the guys that really cared, that
played their ass off, that gave everything they possibly had,
left nothing on the field, and when they left, they're like,
you know what, we got everything had. We ain't never
had to worry about eighty four cause we know, go
get to us. Yes, it became difficult on Shoe because
I worked. I worked at I worked at CBS for

(34:05):
a decade. I saw how am I gonna get I'm
in New York, how am I gonna get back? They
I went back when they put me into the Ring
of Fame in two thousand and nine. I went back
again in twenty eleven when they put me I got
my receiving my ring for the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
But it was hard for me to get back because
I'm working.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Hey, you know what, you know the Broncos really wanted
me to come back. Now I can't miswork like that.
And then I started working at a at Fox for
n Disputed for seven years and it was hard and
I went back.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I think I went back once.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
But it's really hard, oh Joe, to go back when
I got to watch all these games and I'm at
one game even though you know they got it on it,
you know. Mr B like, oh, you know, shaying Sharpe,
what game you want to watch? And I was like,
don't worry about the mister B. So it's really hard.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I can't. It's hard for me to talk about something,
O Joe, if I don't see it right.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I need to see it so I can tell you
the intricacy of what actually happened, the design of the
player to make up the defense, X, Y and Z.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
So that's real.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
That's really the main reason, really A ten events with
other events are going on because I need to be
able to.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Tell you what actually happened.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Like oh but but and speaking of being able to
tell you what actually is going to happen, I'm gonna
tell you your Raven's gonna lose again.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Ah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I'm just I'm just saying every game I'm in attendance
till you do understand. I went to the Thursday Night game,
Joe Burrow's first game back you see what happened. You
see what happened right and this, I got another. I
got your raveis, I got your I got your boy.
You know your Ravens fan. I got Butter. I'm not
I'm not sure if you've seen some of the clips
when that that Butter makes some time I happen listen

(35:46):
Butter stayed away in Seattle. I didn't got Butter ticket, right, yeah,
I don't got Butter ticket. I'm talking about he a
huge Ravens fan. He flying tomorrow, Okay, he flying, Yeah,
he's flying the Cincinnati tomorrow. I'm I'm gonna meet him
out there on Friday evening, and I allow him to
see greatness in person. I want I want him to
see greatness in person. I want I want him to
be able to I want him to be because he

(36:08):
streams and increase content. I want his content to be
authentic and organic. And I want him right there. I
want I want him right there front and center, you know,
watching the Ravens lose, you know, And and I want
him to cry. I want I want him to cry
so we can see. I don't you know, you know
one thing about it. It's very hard for me to
talk about people. It's very difficult for me. I can

(36:29):
be I can be critical from critique players, but I
wanted to see seventy seven person. I want I want
him to see seventy seven in person and to see
why Lamar is gonna be frustrated, why he's gonna get sacked,
why he's gonna be running for his life, and the
Bengals are coming away with another wind and one step

(36:50):
closer to winning the AFC North that hasn't gone in
our favor all season long.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, for this gentleman, o Ko, I don't know, he's
got to be young, because no veteran reporter would ever
do something like this.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
You think you think he's young.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
He gotta be young.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean, I'm not saying he I'm not maybe an
age wise, but it'd be interesting to know how long
he's been in this capacity doing this job. That's that's understood.
Oh Joe, we got we got women on the plane.
I mean we used to have women reporters. Lynda Brewin
rest her soul. Le lev was great.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
She was great. She would always come to me.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I was like, le do you not have She's like
Michelle and you're gonna give it to me straight, I know,
but somebody else might give it to you straight too.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
You don't want to get it from them.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
But she was she was always she was always great,
and we were always respectful, and I made sure guys
were respectful of her, especially women, Uh save Steele. Her
first job was with the Right, you know, as a reporter,
was with the Right, Right and all that that, you know,
stuff that you know, she's obviously she's attractive. No, boy,
we're not finna do that. That led her, Finn to

(37:58):
do her job, and we're gonna allow her to do
her job, and we're going to be professional.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's what we're gonna do. She'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Ask her, she'll tell you. Now, we're gonna be professional.
That's not the way we do things. But on the plane,
oh Joe, we like, look we did we gamble, We
played card for money, and then you know, obviously they
got to go to the bathroom, one Joe. They couldn't
go in the first class because that's where the coaches were,
so they had to come by. We move out the way,
and Mike just say, eighty four, can we not gamble

(38:29):
on the plane? You know, hey, y'all get to the room.
Have bad it you play your card, you know, play cards,
roll your dice.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
But can we not? Okay? Done now?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
The only thing that I really got I don't really
get mad at mad. Animals get mad, humans get upset.
I don't really get upset because Mike was like Mike
was like obviously he let the vets handle the stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
And we did a great job.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think the committee, the community, the committee that was
in charge of OJOE, I thought we did a very
good job of dealing with stuff before it got big
enough to eat that Mike would have to intervene, right,
Mike said it was brought to his attention, and I
know who told him. The flight attendants did. Oh till
you remember them the portable dv chat. I know, y'all

(39:12):
remember the portable DVDs.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, the bigger they was kind of big a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
what y'all were watching? What y'all were watching?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
They know y'all. First of all, I had one. But man,
y'all know my personality. I'm gonna be joning on the plane.
I'ma be talking about what you wore, what you wore
on the play, and that's good and terrible, and I'm
gonna tell your answer up once we get on the
second team bus, so you make sure you get nah nah. Man,
everybody want to go and Bust one if they got
on some bull drive. They want to go on bust

(39:45):
one because that's the bus.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Mike on.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, they know we're not gonna we can't get get
your ass on Bus two. Man sew what bus you
don't get no Bus two, Mike asked it. Look, guys,
it's been brought down, been brought to my attention. Guys
are watching stuff you shouldn't be watching, Like what what
they can't watch the man them joke, gonna be watching
spansion in the hotel.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
We call it spansual vision spanks vision.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Yeah, what the hell is that? Chad tell o, Joe,
what ain't nobody spanks your vision?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
What that that?

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Never heard of that?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
That's where you watching the mono the more dirty movies.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Oh you're talking about like Debbie Dunch Dallas. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,
god phones, oh Joe, no, oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
The fire attendants coming giving you food and walking up
and down ask you if you want anything to drink.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
They walk about pushing the cart and they.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
See that oh Okay, okay, okay. See, they got their
eyes in the wrong place. They need to mind it
getting back.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Look here, you know, you walking up and that. It's
just like you walking up and down. You go to
the bathroom and somebody somebody feeling out their things.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
You you go see it.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
It's just the way they ain't nobody walking straight ahead.
You're not looking to your left, you're not looking to
your right. You're walking Yeah, yeah, Mike, say, look, guys,
I don't try to tell you guys what to do,
you grown men, but let's not do this.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. You're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah,
that that a them boy watching that thing with that plane.
I'm coming back home.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I slammed that thing. I slammed somebody. I think I
broke it. I said to see because here's the thing.
Oh your way, I look at it.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
You know how coach it is.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Somebody jump off side. We all got to run. I
ain't even do nothing. As a matter of fact, I
wasn't even in right. So we gotta run. So if
that gets out again, what might's gonna do. Might gonna
punish everybody. Nah, you not fitna mess it. Up because
you can't control your behavior. Nah, that's not gonna happen.
So that's where you know, man, Bro, the man told you,

(41:50):
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
We get what we want.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
We get free, we get free, we get free movies.
Everybody got a free movie. Whatever you want to watch
I want, I mean me and birds. I watch Player Club.
I bet you I watched Players Club twenty five thirty
times to your man, fooling he Bro, I just I
just didn't want guys to mess it up one person
for two people to mess it up for fifty. So

(42:15):
you know, sometimes you have to, like, Bro, come on
now you have to you know. But on the plane, Bro,
you can't talk about you can't as a reporter.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Even me now, knowing what I know, I know. Look,
I make calls here and there. I just let it go.
I just let it go on. Yo.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I don't say nothing. I know a lot of things
that have transpired, be an NBA, be at NFL.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
That isn't what I do. I just let people think.
I'll just be talking out.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
My yeah and don't and don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
But guess who know what I'm talking about the people
that I'm talking about. Yeah, oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Head coach Brian Schottenheimer says he had a talk with
George Pickens about the effort following the Lions Lions game
and the now deleted i G post about Richard Sherman. Shody,
that's what they call it, said. Pickings owned it, telling him, hey, Shody,
I didn't play my best game. He made it clear
is he's not worried about all that pickets efforts moving forward, saying, unfortunately,

(43:30):
none of us played our best game. That's real. But
I don't worry about George and his love for football
and playing this game. So pick the right thing to do.
If your coach talked to you about your effort, apologize
to Richard Sherman.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
All he did. He didn't say you was a bad person.
He didn't say.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
All he said was that effort ain't good enough, especially
especially double, especially when CD leaves leaves the game. Your
coach if it was that, if it wasn't that big
of a deal, why would your head coach have a
conversation about your effort. It's okay sometimes, oh Joe. We

(44:15):
said all the time here. When emotion is high, logic
is low. Yeah, I man, and look, oh Joe, I
don't play my best game and you point that out.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Man, help you. I get it, I get it, I
get it.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I totally understand. And I don't want people to think
I don't understand because I do. And I don't want
you to think Shannon Sharpe was ever perfect in any
game because I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
I had drops, I.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Had missed the signmon's, but my job was not my
I always prided myself in Shannon, don't make that mistake again.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You know what you did wrong.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But if somebody called me out for something that I did,
I can't be wrong. I can't be wrong that the
coach called me out about a miss block. I missed
the block, right, I didn't get my head across. I
took terrible I ain't gonna took terrible steps. Why do
I get mad at somebody for pointing out what you.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Know you did wrong? Hey, all you gotta do? Ain't
surem man, I I'm sorry, bro.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, well yeah, he ain't apologizing to sharm But I
know I can tell you that right now that's not coming.
But on the field, it's gonna change. It's gonna change.
You Knowles he be even good the past thirteen fourteen
weeks you had, you know, a little little mental laps,
you know, yeah, a little a little lack of days ago.
But hey, damn.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
But but see what y'all feel the rison that y'll say, No,
he's playing for a contract with you show sol yo,
And so let me ask you a question and you
can speak to this because you're a receiver. Yeah, that
kind of with its history based on what happened in Pittsburgh.
Now he comes here and have a game. So how
your agent going there? It says Pickings is gonna be

(46:06):
on time, Pickles is gonna be on time for meeting,
He's gonna be on prime for practice. He's gonna be
where it's supposed to be, and he's gonna give you
your effort.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
How you sell that?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
You say, you say, how you sell it?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
What week we in?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
We in week this fourteen?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Well I use I use the other twelve weeks to
sell it?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
What about what about the other four years? See you
see you got thirteen weeks, I got three years in a.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
In a in a game.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
If we're gonna we're gonna use what happened in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Are we gonna use what we did the first thirt
tier A, We're gonna use what we did the first
twelve weeks.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I mean, when it's time to get paid, they're gonna
use your what they gonna have you gotta update your resumes.
So it's basically recently.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
But but what have I seen more of him giving
me that effort the first twelve weeks or the effort
that I saw.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
On lasting Okay, you're right, you're right right, And you.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Know how they're gonna, Oh, Joe, you know how they're
gonna do it now, all this stuff in his contract,
all these clauses where they can claw back money.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
You I'm just telling you how they do it.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Yeah, I know, I know, you know the game they play,
you know, but you know, you know what, he gonna
get his money, But they're gonna have a whole lot
of clauses in it. Though they're gonna have They're gonna
have a lot of clauthes.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yes, and that's and.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
That's and that's all I'm saying. I don't want, Hey,
I don't want you to try to claw back money now.
If I'm late for something, if I meet something now,
I can potentially avoid the contract. I can avoid the
u uh uh, the guaranteed money or roster bonuses. Hey, no, yeah,
I can honestly say, oh, Yoe, I don't know about you,

(47:49):
but I ain't never had nothing like that in my contract.
I do have a weight clause in my contract. When
people start putting stuff in their contract, what are they
trying to tell you, we don't trust you?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Yeah, basically basically trying to think the reason.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Why they putting that, the reason why they put that
clause in college contract? What do they have in Zion
Williams contract, go Joe, why they don't trust They got
a weight clausing now, yeah, absolutely, huh Yeah, the same
thing with Eddie Lacy.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
He ain't big Eddie. What Eddie was big? Uh?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Literally and figured me. But but I'm saying, I don't
I know put in my car. I get it.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
There's gonna be certain clauses that they it's just standing
procedure for a contract, and we get that. But you
ain't finna putting no weight clause. You ain't finna put
no on time clause because no, I need all my money.
I ain't trying to give you nothing, and I'm not
trying to If I do something, it voids it.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Right, that's all saying. Pick you too, good boy, go
get this money, get it.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Oh yeah, yeah this think I'm talking about thinking about clauses.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I ain't had no damn clauses.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And should I kept getting all my money back?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I want. I wasn't tripping.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Pit.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I ain't tell her what somebody told me. You're talking
to a guy that, uh hepped up some money.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah, pick gonna get him boys hair next week, but
give him hair. Shit.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And despite the post lords, uh he's had o Joe
even with all that. He's seventy catchers is a career high.
He's eleven hundred and seventy nine yards is a career high.
Ain't touchdown is a career high. Nobody has ever ever

(50:04):
doubted George Pickens talent. Nobody, It's unquestioned. It's off the charts, yep,
off the charts.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Bro these last four weeks.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
And if you guys make the playoffs, let it be
the hardest you've ever played, and go get you a
contract that if you if this is the last contract
you get, you can go shut it down. Go back
to Georgia or wherever. You're from and live happily ever after.

(50:44):
That's what you do. That's what you do.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Pick.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Don't mess this opportunity up. Sometimes people get multiple opportunities.
Sometimes they don't get your honey.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Pick yes, sir, huh I was like, why you keep
looking at me?

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Where am i?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Uh ad put the p pos? Talking about your sh shaved? Yes, no,
let it grow, but you shaved?

Speaker 5 (51:20):
What?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Okay? Okay, I know you can't grow one.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I can grow. I grow mine like Rick Ross.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, you know you're gonna get you'll get what the
beutitt No, No, I can get.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I can get a real a matter of fact, that's
a good idea matter of fact. When we when we
do the live show, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a unit,
a nice little beer with a lace or a lace
front with the with the waves. I'm gonna be clean though.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah. They're talking about to make it look old. What
you mean, look I am, I'm fifty seven for another
seven months. You don't.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
You don't look fifty. You you look like you buy
you look like about thirty nine forty Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You look No, no, no, no, no, I don't. I
don't think it's puty great like prime.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I don't think it's time I've been. I don't think
mine gonna be like salt and pepper.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah, you know black folk. We a's gracefully man.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah yeah you might.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah you might be fifty seven, but you look thirty
nine forty Yeah yeah, yeah, you good, you good.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Say.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I do a lot of things like I'm in my twenties.
Let me start, let me talk, let me stop. No, uh, but.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I'm gonna see, I'm gonna go, I'm going to I'm
gonna give it a month.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So this is a this is a Saturday Sunday. I
didn't save. I didn't I didn't shave Saturday Sunday, and
I didn't shave today.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
So this is three days. Yeah, so I'm gonna see where.
I'm gonna see where it's gonna be out. Uh on
the fifth.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Okay, like listen, if you grow, if you grow yours out,
I grow mine out, man. You know, sure we can
look like we're from Philly with it, you know, with
the beers.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Hey, I will put that Beijing in mine. I don't
get that. I'm gonna put that up fifty seventeen.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Okay, A little ro game and have it and have
it like a.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Uh uh have that thing like Big Perk and at
Rick Ross. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, give me some.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Beard beard oil.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Hey, you know, I think I'm gonna do it hard.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
You grow yours out, man, I'm gonna grow mine out. Man,
I'm gonna get then. I'm gonna give me a little
lace front with the waves. Nice little that's you got
your uh your your hair gray? Noah head, No, not yet.
Oh you know, I'm young man, I'm about twenty three. Man,
Now I don't get no gray hair yet.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yeah. We're gonna We're gonna find out.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
But uh uh.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Pick, I mean had picked.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Pink.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
You got a chance for one hundred catchers, Oh Joe, yeah,
chance for one hundred catchers. It's four games left, right,
yeah yeah, even twenty two?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
And the way he played, that could be that could
be fifteen hundred yards.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
They ain't gonna be able to deny that.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
So pick, get your money, bro, get your money. You'll
be glad you did.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
The Chiefs could be officially eliminated from the playoff contentions
in week fifteen, and Travis Kelcey said the situation is
a tough reality for the six and seventeen to be in.
Neither Kelsey nor the Chiefs have missed the playoffs since
twenty fifteen. During the latest episode of New Heights, Travis said,
I feel like I've always had answers in the years.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Past, and this year I just can't find them.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I keep thinking, if I show up to work and
put in the work and fix the issue through my
practice habit, through perfecting the game plan and my fundamentals,
is what I've been taught. And to go out there
and try to play my ass off for the guys
next to me, and it's all come together like it's
years past and this year it's just not tough. Yeah, stuff,
it happens. It's coming to an end. Yeah yeah, you

(55:26):
knows it. Everybody knows it. And the thing is is
that is that when you start, it happens a lot.
Oh Joe, you can take the joe. When you start
to press, you're not playing like you want to play.
It's lay in the ball game and you want to
make every play. You want to take every play to
the house. And so in order to do that, you
got to like sometimes you got to like to do this.

(55:47):
You see what I'm you see I ain't on the ball, Joe. Yeah,
because I'm trying to get gone. I'm trying to get
gone and ball on the ground. And he had a situation,
uh Mahomes put it a little behind it. He dropped
that one. He threw another one what we call the
sail rock, and that one popped up in there. It

(56:08):
was all on his head and taking it off it
picked it. So it's frustrating because you know, you closer
to the end at the beginning, and this might be
the end.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it sucks. It sucks for Traffords.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
I think he came back, you know, contemplating contemplating retirement
last year, but he didn't want to finish his career
off that way. He came back this You're hoping things
would be different, and just as as a team, it
just hasn't gone well at all.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
And most of the time. One of the things that
really hurt and really.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Bothers bothers you as a competitor, and you put the
work in during the week, you put the same hours,
doing the same formula what you did in the past,
and the end result was the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
And now you're doing the same thing and things just
aren't going well.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
The ball is not following your way, the calls you
normally get from the refs that're not going your way
this time just around.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yeah, And that's the and that's the hardest, that's the
hardest part coming to grips with that, because, like I said,
my thing was Joe and O Joe. I could go
out there, like there will be a game, I go
get you one thirty one two touchdowns. Next game will
be thirty yards, next game will be forty yards. I

(57:27):
couldn't do it back to back. Yeah, when I was
in my like year six, seven, eight, one fifty one,
sixty one one thirty ninety ninety two, tubs couldn't do
it anymore. I can still have a big game. You
go back, I think my last year, my last year,

(57:48):
second to the last game, I go sell for one
o one three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. But
in between that, I just couldn't just and you know,
play play who we played. Sad we played the Chargers,
always had a good game.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
We get the Chargers. So a week before the.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Bye week, Chargers thirteen one point fifty three three touchdowns,
offensive player of the week, come out to bye week,
get the Ravens nine for a buck sixty one. You know,
I'm cooking like I'm cooking like that. Gay, I'm cooking
like yeah, I'm white hot. You know what I'm saying.
You see, Oh I don't touch that. Yeah, I'm like that.
I'm killing everybody. Man, And you start to get older,

(58:34):
it's tough and you I'm sore. It's taking me longer.
Whereas before I can, I can, I can play, I
can play on a Sunday. And I felt like my
first couple of years on Joe like that Sunday, like
that Sunday Thursday game.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Man, that ain't nothing, nothing at all.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah, nothing, Joe, what your selment? You're ten? What is
the bye week? I'm looking for the bide joke.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Mm hmmm. It's hard to back to back that thing
like that.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
It's uh, it's just it's just it's tough on him
because we've seen a guy you can make the case
and I can, and I do. I think he's do.
I think I look, I think it's between him and Gronk.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
But I think when when you go look at the
playoffs and you talk about a guy that has as
many as many yards as many touchdowns as Jared Rice.
And we know how we all hold Jared Rice in
very high regard. You look at his numbers in the
playoffs and they're right there. And what he's done in
big moments, he's always been, especially in a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Excuse me, in playoff games, haven't been that. Yeah, And
it's hard when you can't beat that anymore.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Shuck mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (59:58):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Isn't it funny how time just slips on the way
happened to us, all happened to us all And and
like he said, he used to be able to fix
that joke. He used to go, hey, oh, this is
what I did wrong. You know what, instill instead have
tried to rip, I probably should have did arm over

(01:00:19):
instead of harm over.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I should have ripped instead. The end of that, I
probably should have collided.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Knock you off ballot, break away from it. You know what,
Maybe I need to drop and helped a little more.
Maybe I need to sell it a little more. But
after I mean, after a while, you see a guy
in a movie long enough you already know what type
of movie you gonna do.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
That's a good one.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
It's it's it's tough it's tough. It's tough. On came
with Joe because we I mean as a competitor. I
mean obviously you know the way the season ended for
for him last year in the super Bowl. You know,
he he couldn't retire like that, so he had to
come back, you know what I mean. So, yes, when

(01:01:02):
do you say, when do you feel like or even
think that, man, I should just probably gonna give it up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's hard to do that. It is because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
It's harder for a great player to give it up
because when you're great, that's all you know. Yeah, and
it's hard for you to be anything but great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
But one thing about it, Joe and on that film
won't lie to you. Let you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
You might think you great, but the iron the sky
does not lie, and you can look like a shell
of yourself, and watching and watching yourself, your body language,
your mannerisms, it'll let you know, Yeah, I just ain't
got it no more. It not the blocks, Hey, I'm
always one step behind.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yeah, I mean, and then you know you looking at gather,
I'm looking at guys that starting to they start to
letting anybody guard me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I'm like, y'all don't got no more respect than that
for me. I'm like, who are you come from?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Oh, Joe, I'm offit, Joe, I'm offended.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I've used to get hold on.
I've used to get in your best corner. I get
number one on third down. Now they just got some guy.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Yeah, oh my goodness, I'm used. I'm used to getting
double and triple team. Yes, I don't even know this
dude guard me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Who is this? Yes, that's what they got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
That's that's all the respect they gotten from me. Now,
y'all ain't got no y'all ain't playing no Boxton one y'all. Hey, y'all,
y'all ain't playing zone. But got a man trotted me
everywhere I go. That's what I used to get on yo. Yeah, yeah,
they're playing zone. But I got a guy going meet
and I gotta read it like hold on, man, why
you stop? I said, that's a zone, But yeah, you

(01:02:53):
gotta got tailing you. Oh my goodness. And now they
just got so Joe Smoe out there, hey, Cause that's
that's back when you had them batteries in your legs.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
You ain't got them batteries no more. Man. Look here.
That's a start stop. Hey that Hey the zorro rod
that heads it that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Hey hey, oh Joe, you are you drive a stick stick?
They getting on that clutch?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
You are?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
That was me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
That's I was starting to stop it. Hey, run through contact?
Hey I started run through contact. Man, I start gott
year thirteen, year fourteen, I hit that blink of blink.
Let me get on up out of bound, especially if
it's cold.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
And you watch guys as they start to get older,
Watch how easy they go down.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Nobody want none.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Of that, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
You start looking at them, Look at them guys in
year twelve, year thirteen, Watch out quick they pull that
turf over the head.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
You think they jumping in the bed with his cold
that they get that turf up on them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Hey, listen, that's called a business decision.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
As you get older, you make more and more of
them

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