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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, we got a bad special guest joining us. He
had the game winning interception of Jalen Hurs on Monday
Night Football Tony Jefferson. In year and eleven, he had
four interceptions, matching his career total across the previous ten season.
To ay, I mean, is it a different type of glove?
I mean you get Lasik surgery, you wear glasses. How
(00:24):
do you have as many interceptions in one season? With
three with four game with four game with four games,
the three four games to play that you had in
the previous ten season when you played one hundred and
seventy games.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's that experience.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Experience, man, Okay, getting putting myself in the right position,
you know, game planning more mature mentally as a football player.
And you know, yes when you see when you've seen
it all man like you like you recognize stuff like.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A lot quicker. So I think that's really what it's
been bro to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hey, when I think about a team, you know, looking
at you guys defensively, if I'm not mistaken you guys,
or rank maybe I think maybe fourth statistically.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
And what what do you what do you.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Credit you know for you guys' success on defense in
the way you guys are playing this season, it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Starts from the time. I think it starts from coaching.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I think, yes, uh, the game plan every week, starting
from Jesson Minner and then trickling down to our secondary coaches.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Coach Clink and Coach Fuller. Really they just invest.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Really you could tell they they put their all into
the game plan and make it simple for us. You know,
you know each week it's different. It's always a different
challenge each week. And I think they give us the
right tools that fit us. And you know, they also
give us the freedom to allow us to make the
costs that we feel like is best as as players
(01:59):
out there that fits us too.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So just out there company for me, right, That's dope.
That's dope.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Let me ask you hold on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
In mayl twenty twenty three, you're like, Okay, I'm gonna
retire and I'm gonna go into the scouting department with
the Ravens. Then you unretire. What went what went into
the decision? Like, You're like, you know what, it's tied,
but I think it's time for me to transition to
do something else where your body beat up or you
just felt like, I'm just tired of doing this, getting
(02:30):
up and putting my body through this training every day,
and then you unretire. What went into those two decisions
to make you retire and then the decision to retire.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Honestly, I had Liz Frank mob and I was playing
in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, and its Frank.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't know if anybody that It's one of the
most painful injuries to have.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I didn't get the surgery.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I played.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I missed nine games.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I played through it, and I was like, there's no
way I can go on to next season and like
feel like the player that I felt like I could be.
So I had already had conversations with Eric DaCosta the
gym with the Ravens, and uh, we talked about it
as even as a player, about me, you know, wanting
to get into scouting and get it to the front office.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Post post football.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So I already had that lineup and I felt like
it was a good, uh and easy transition for me
to be able to do that. And you know, so
I went into that and as you know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
As a scout, you're grinding a lot of film. All
you're doing is watching.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
That's all you do all day.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the more I was watching film and grinding film,
I'm like, okay, I'm better.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I know I'm better than this. Dude.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, dude, you watching field with guys, you know you
better be like, whoa, he should be doing this, I
should be doing what he does exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And then me me still just being around the game,
like and a bunch of my former teammates work on
the team, so like I'm still around them, yet I'm
working in the front office.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So it was like, man, I'm still around it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Like we had went to the ANC Championship that year
against the Chiefs and that my juices were still going
and they were falling. You know, I would be going
on the field pregame and I'm like sizing up the
other team.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like I still had that in me. So, you know,
I went to the.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Senior Bowl as as a scout and I was there
and I came back home and I was like, I
hit up the gym with the rads. I'm like, yeah,
I'm done, I'm done, and I went home started training.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Rest is history.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, this, Tony, and you don't have to like
jump on it. But I was like, when you broke
when you guys look at the Eagles offense, obviously there
are some things that you saw that you could.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
When you looked at this offense, what is it that
you felt most comfortable? What were you trying to do,
because other than that big run, long run that Saquan had,
your dad did a pretty good job of bottling him up.
What was your game plan? Was it like, Okay, we
got to make Jalen throw from the pocket. We want
to push him one way or another. Is there anything
in particular that you can devote that you felt that
(05:13):
you got Okay, we got to beat on him. We
think we know what he's going to do, and let's
let's let's force him.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
To play to you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And I think, I think, honestly, I just felt like, uh,
even like I said before, from the standpoint of uh
uh game planning, I felt like we felt comfortable with
us with the matchups that we had, that they were
a matchup driven offense. Obviously they want to get the
run game going with Saquan. Obviously he deserves our respect,
(05:40):
but we felt like we were ready for that. And
then when we when we felt like when we were
able to get the run stop we want. We were
ready for Jaialen to throw the ball. We liked our matchups.
I mean we had we had a few kids, few
interceptions right around, Like we were just confident out there
and like we always say, like where where the team
(06:00):
you want to play on Prime Time?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like you're right, yeah, and you know ta. I also
have another question for me watching at home. I tell
Uncle all the time and people in the chat that
that are watching, I'm sure those who have been around
the game for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Is it me? You know?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I don't mean I'm not trying to bass the Eagles, please.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I like the Eagles, you know, especially offensively and what
they what they do on defense.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But is it me?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Or is it offense very predictable based on what they're doing,
based on alignments, based on down and distance.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Isn't it for you?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Doesn't it make your job a little bit easier based
on what you see on film week the week in
the game that you watch that they played previously, they
show the same exact thing.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Where's so much we God, damn, I just watched this.
I just watched this two days ago.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
In here come in here, come again, that same short
motion coming in coming in coming in to go out
or going out to come in.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I agree with what you're saying. I think they have
very strong tendencies.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Uh oh, you mean to tell me they gonna throw
they gonna throw a j that go ball or he
on the left side with the two yards ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You go, I say, politically, craft, you know there right right.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very strong. I have very strong tendencies.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's something like like I said, like, I feel like
we do a great job with of game plan and
really understanding the tendencies, and it trickles down from the top.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Lets us play.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Fast, your quarterback, brak. He got breaks the bone in his
non throwing hand. He has surgery. I think it's Monday,
and then he's gonna have to wear a plate and
he comes back. What type of energery? What type of
juice did that bring? Knowing the guy just has surgery,
(07:49):
he's a quarterback, and it's I mean, he's not gonna
be able to do like the typical hand I'm going
to the right. He got a back handed with his
right hand because he can't you can't open his hand
and close his hand like you normally would with his
left hand.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
What did that? What did that mean?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean to have your quarterback knowing that man, this
joke had just had surgery like a week ago and
here out here on the football field, and you know
how physically demanding and how mentally tough you gotta be
to play this game.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Plus I mean I just start off with I remember
seeing it when it happened when in the in the game,
I saw it happen to hit the dude's helmet and
he's doing this.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I'm like, oh yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Still finished and completed the game, so they're off rip.
I'm like, man, like, that's my QB man. And then
come to find out he gets surgery on I believe Monday,
and dudes out at practice on like Wednesday, like all right,
what we doing?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Like Like I'm like, bro, you know what's like that?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Like that right there is just like it moti like
motivates you.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Especially as a defense It's like, okay, like our QB's
out here like literally with one.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Hand, willing to fight and die on the field for.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Us, Like it's really something that resonates with you as
a defense man. I know specifically for us, like we
really we took be serious into heart.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I don't think there's a better person to ask than you.
What are the biggest difference between Jim and John Harvard
coach coaches South.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
To be honest, they're really similar. I think like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Both of them are just like pure football guys, Like
it's everything is football, you know what I'm saying. I'll
be if you go up to coach at Jim and
you ask them, You're like, hey, coach, what's up?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They said, football like my life to all their whole family,
Like it's about football, and I respect that. I respect it.
They're about winning.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They take winning serious and at the same time their
player coaches like, I love both of them. Jim Harbo,
my current head coach UH coming out of high school
to my very first offer, he was at Stanford. I
went to a full contact camp because I didn't do
none of the seven on sevens and shorts back then.
If it wasn't a full contact camp, I wasn't going,
(10:12):
Like that's how dan.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I wanted to go hit something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And me and me and Harbo we connected that way
because he felt the way I played Like We've always
just been fans with each other. So I think they're
both similar personality wise. I think I always say John's
more a little like this, a lot more and Jim's
more like this.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So you know that's that's really the difference between him.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Uh, I'm looking at your last four games.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, you're at the Chiefs this week in Kansas City,
then you go to Cowboys at Dallas. Then you get
the Texans and you know what their defense represents. And
then for the division, this might be for the division,
le Broncos at home, you got the gone you guys,
basically you win this division, you would have earned them.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Doubt about it. Obviously this weekend, like we know we're
gonna get the best the Chiefs. We we are not full.
You know, we understand. You know they're season up and down.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I was born.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You can deal. You can deal to death blow, Yeah,
you can deal to death playing. You can do something
that nobody has ever been able to do since my
home has been well, they had last time they didn't
make the playoffs, and god knows when, but they've been
to the AMC Championship every year that Mahome has been
a startup. How only can you not make sure that
you can make sure they don't even make the playoffs,
there's no chance for them to get to the AMC
(11:38):
Championship game. A lot of teams accounting on you, Tony
to deal that death blow.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We know, we know we're gonna get their best shot.
So you have the wheel, q uh you know. Then
we go to Dallas and then we're at Homing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's the Texas. We need that. We need that get back.
We don't have to last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Ready for that one too, But uh yeah, we're ready.
We're ready. We're looking our crops, We're ready to go.
Play like we're motivated. We're playing good ball right now.
I just got to keep it rolling.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, you guys are playing good ball on both sides
of the ball. Obviously your quarterback just has to be
consistent going and going on the back end of the season,
going to the playoffs. You have a superb chance to
win the division and then probably the division game is
going to be based on that last game against the Broncos.
And how will you guys play and do and ship man?
Y'all boys balling, Man, y'all, y'all boys balling. I get
(12:32):
a joy out of watching you guys play, not even offensively,
seeing what you guys do defensively. You know, I'm even
though I was a receiver, I am I'm a huge
fan of back back in play safety DBS and just
understanding and knowing what I'm watching and what you guys
are doing and what everybody's responsibility is.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So it's been a joy to watch all y'all boys.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, y'all got y'all, got y'all inside backers. They're
a little underside, but boy, they side. They so impairment.
And we know what Khalil Mack is. Khalil Mack. If
you need him to set the edge, you can set
the edge. You want him to bull, he can bull.
You want him to rip, you want him arm over,
arm under?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
He can do all that? What's forty five? What's that?
What's that? Here's some more on the other side.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah to hey, bro, if I'm in a bar fight,
I want to I want to with me.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Yeah, bad.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, Hey, Tony, congratulations man on everything. Hey, you made
the right decision. Because here's the thing, You're gonna have
other opportunities to be a scout. You don't get another
whole lot of opportunities. I mean, you're not gonna get
that Philip Rivers treatment. You're not gonna get forty four.
They're gonna call your ass to come play safety. Okay,
So you make sure you get all of that out
(13:54):
of your system because you're never gonna find another job
to replace what it's like to have that camaraderie in
the locker room, on the plane, on.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
The bus, on the practice field.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So you make sure this time you get all of
that out of your system because you might not get
the might not be as fortunate to get that call
back to come back and play it again.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But congratulations on having a great season. Stay healthy, and
we look forward to talking to you down the road.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
A t at do me fa aten, do me a favor?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Hey doing?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Tell tell Quinn Johnston, tell him, I say, keep that
ship going, finish the season off, strong man, keep that
ship going, man, and keep.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That look all right, appreciate the man.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So the Eagle's Positivity Rabbit makes a quick exit. Bill
Jeff mcclaims the Philadelphia Inquire The inflatable rabbit that was
installed last week to bring good vibes to the Eagle
locker room has been removed already. Charges in the first
and only game played with the rabbit in the house. Joe,
you ever do something like this in the locker room
(15:00):
to help you break a losing street.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
No, not that I could think not that I can
think of. But you got to get that up out
of there. Boy, Hey, that was that was a you
gotta go, bro.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So they gonna blame it on the rabbit.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
They blame it on the rabbit. Yeah, yeah, you gotta
blame somebody. I mean, hey, oh, Joe, what do you
care for? Good luck?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
A rabbit's foot. They got a whole big ass rabbit
in there. They ain't making no Look, you got to go. Yeah,
my brother we went to the fair. Uh, if my
brother run a rabbit's foot, you don't used to have
rabbit foot key change, Joe?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, if my brother WoT a rabbit foot, a rabbit
foot key change. If our grandpa took it and put
the house keys on the I was like, I don't
know why we got a house. Ain't nobody gonna bring
it in rabbit, I mean, ain't nobody gonna break it here?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Trust me. What time the robin did break in the house,
we robbed him. Get your cass up out of here.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But I mean they didn't even get a thing of
chance though. God, I mean one week. Now, when you
lose like that, don't tell y'all know, hey, some guys.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
To go Hey. Same same thing, same thing with the ravens.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
See, they took all them TV took TVs out, ping pong, machine,
popper shot.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They better put them back in there because they had
been losing everything. There was a couple of games they
been losing every since. Put them back in there. As
a matter of fact, brain for new ones, y'all, keep
them all was out for brain for new ones.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
That stuff ain't got nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Look here, man, we had a situation where I think
we lost. This was ninety four, ninety four. I think
we started the season oh and four man, Joe, oh, Joe.
We come to work Wednesday. Everybody got a got a
piece of rope by this long hanging in the locker.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Just hold on to the rope, guys, It's gonna get better.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
You know, when you're getting bad, you gotta find a
way to shake things up. Man, You gotta find shake
things up trying to get back on track. That's the
hardest part.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You're going to lose the streak, it seems like if
you can't get off it, you can't. It's the same
thing with a winning streak. You seem like, when you
go on the winning street, you can't lose.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You fight.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
When you kick a field you kick a walk off
field goal, you block a field goal, you do something,
a pass, interfires, call to keep a drive alive. Now
you're able to run out the clock or Joe gets something.
But when you lose, you're like, damn.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
And it's funny too, Hey, uncle Joe.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
When you're winning, for some reason, luckers always on your side, because, yeah,
win consistently, you need a little bit of luck. Obviously,
preparation is one thing. But for some reason, everything always
seemed to go right. The ball always bounces your favor,
or the ball always bounce your weight.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But when you're losing, you.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Don't want you don't want to talk nobody. Now what
we talking about? Man, Listen, I know that feeling. I
promise you when I got here Atlanta, Ojo in two
thousand and five, when I first got here Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, we're bad man.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
We started off three and twenty eight. Damn, Joe, we
start off three and twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And y'all could have used me back then.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Joe.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Wait listen, okay o, Joe, I wasn't even eating. I'm
coming home, going right to sleep. I don't want to
hang out. I don't want to do nothing. I can't
even enjoy myself. When you lose it like that, you
get yourself. You know what happened, Joe, somebody see y'all
that's why you lose it. You need to have your
ass playbook. Damn, bro, I can't get no fool like
(18:38):
I got right hey, I mean, black guy here nothing.
It's hard, man. Yeah, you know, feeling and don't go
to no club.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh man, Man, if you lose, can you imagine that
because it ain't like it is now.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I mean I don't know if maybe they still do it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Maybe they still you know guys, they still guy at
the club and they's like, that's why y'all lose.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
You're asking the club all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But and probably now if you're at the club, they
probably put that thing on social media.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, now you've got social media, you got platform
where people see you out.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, take a picture.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yeah, it's the world's small or now you can't do nothing, man,
I'm talking about nothing. Somebody always watching. You're right, somebody's
always watching.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Hey man, let me tell you what happened to me today.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Joe, oh yo, I started to film this Lika, Joe,
you're enjoying back there laughing. So I go down shell
it order me an Uber. I go down the guys.
The guys like miss Davis. I was like, yeah, that's me.
I go get into Uber. We're about fifteen minutes here.
(19:52):
Jordan called, hey, boss, you got the wrong car. I said, nah,
he's saying miss Davis. A minute later, dispatch call, he's speaker,
you picked up the wrong you picked up the wrong
you picked up the wrong passage. Uh, such and such.
I was like, he's saying Miss Davis. No, there was
(20:15):
another Miss Davis. There was two Miss Davis.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Wow, oh Joe. I didn't move for a pull side
of the road and put me right out on Santa Monica. Man,
get out of him? What of God? And you got out?
I ain't got no choice. But why an't take you
back to the hotewn man?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was I was close to where I was, closer
to where I needed to be. Then driving me all
the way back to the hotel oh, so you walked
when you had to go? Nah shall they called me
another uber?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Hey, he would have had to drop me off. Man,
you got me, you got me messed up?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Nah man, they got they got recorded in there. And
plus I'm on probation right now, so I had to
be on my best day. Okay, I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Because now I'm like boy apple, I said, Man, just
this drop mouth right here. He's like, I can't take it.
He said, I can't take you no further. I was like,
bro we I looked at the GPS. Oh Joe, were like,
it's gonna take him twenty minutes to get back to
the hotel. It's gonna take himself minutes to drop me off.
I say, just tell her to get to get into
the the uber that was for me. She didn't want
(21:16):
to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Oh so she Oh she wanted them okay.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Mmmm. So man pulled inside the roll. Hey, hey, you
really ain't got no answer on your phone, do you?
I don't know. No, No, Shelley or Jordan.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Like Jordan, Jordan having Jordan having a time and he
knows like after a certain time were about to wrap up,
he'll call the uber. They give us fifteen minutes to
get you know, get out there, and so once we
take the picture. I many things, but I don't I don't. Oh,
let me tell you what up. Look at Jordan laugh.
He's just laughing. So you know in room dining thing,
they don't let you call down it or the room
(21:55):
service no more. You got the skin of KRK the
QR code, so you know, hey, I said, man, oh
you see, I don't know how to do nothing.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Man, I don't book me a two nights stare at
the hotel.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That was Jordan lambing. Sharrey called me, say why you
booked two nights at the hotel? I said, he ain't
book no two nights at the hotel. I ordered breakfast.
She said, you ain't order no damn breakfast. You got
to You got a king sweep for two nights next week?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Oh, Joe, I thought, I ordered me an eggs, sayd
but just some orange juice.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Now you see why I don't be fooling with the maps, Ojoe,
because all my money I been up spending. I'll beat
up spent two hundred thousand dollars on a flower arrangement.
That's why I don't fool with it.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
You gotta be a little text savvage. Man. We got
to send you to a class man.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
No, that's what Jordan are for, George Whitney, class man.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was like, man, yo, put oh Joe, Joe put
me out there. Joe, pull right to the side, I said, Man,
Oh Joe. He stopped in the middle of the road.
I said, well, Man, can't you pull like right over
to the side.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Man, Damn, that's that's not done. I know, because the
uncle I know won't get down no car.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Hey, he ain't got South. He ain't got a South
video Joe, Jo got they got your boy now, you
know A yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Hey, hey, you know if I wasn't no profation on Yoe.
I'm trying to make it twenty six. I'm trying to
make it the twenty six with no mishaps.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, but you can't let people just take advantage of
you like that.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Outside I get on that.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah, hey the devil work. Yeah, he tried to get it. Remember,
oh Joe, I said, patience? What what I said?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Patience? I need patience. He ain't gonna give it to you.
He's gonna put you in a situation that required Hello.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Hello, are you talking talking now?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out now.
But you show lucky caught me in twenty four got out.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But now after I told your ass up, man, I said, Man,
I have I had a day to day with yo.
I got put out of uber and out of order
too nights at all. I try to get with a break.
Who's sandwich is some orange juice? And I got a
two nights day at the hotel. Hey, did they charge
you for canceling you too?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Nice day?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Cause I booked it for next week.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Then they need that cancelation fee. They need that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
They ain't getting no cancelation fee as many nice as
I stay here and Jordan I stay here.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Man, we sometimes we were staying here like four five
nights in the row.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, nah, but uh, I said, boy, I had me
a day today, I said, damn. Jalen Hurst had five turnovers,
no money and the last the last came in overtime
to lose the team's third straight game. Booze were also
heard during the team's Black Friday home lost to the Bear,
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and it doesn't take long for discontent among football fans
to move to the calls to make a quarterback change.
A change in Philly would involve moving Tanner McKee or
Sam Howell into the starting lineup, but Nick Siriota made
it clear this morning that's not something.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
That entertained by the team. I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I know every time I go out on the field
with Jalen Hurts after our quarterback, we have a chance
to win the game. That's something that's been proven. We
won a lot a lot of football games. Oh Joe, Yeah,
that's a bunch. That's a bunch of you see how
they the change.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Turned on the man, see how they play games.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Things not going well? You gotta you got a quarterback
that's been to the Super Bowl twice. He's been twice
and he's won one. He just won last year. It
ain't even been six seven months even six seven months
since he won his last supt Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Now things aren't going well. You ready to jump ship?
You ready jump ship?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Ty?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Change it to another quarterback that is nowhere near and
talented and gifted. Is when you got right now and
think things are gonna change because you switch quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Come on, now, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
All I know is those same fans that was boy
called Cam crazy, called Camp everything but a child of God.
When said when Cam said what he said earlier this year,
You remember who Hoe how they jumped on it with
both feet.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, they they was on top of him. This
hell everything.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Ye'ah.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I know Philly fans, Hey, they don't play. Look, they
don't want to. They got a Super Bowl, then I
get it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Philly fast, their hardcore, they love their Eagles and blah blah,
I get all that.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Bro. Y'all been enjoy this, Yeah, y'all make it seemed
like y'all have just been winning forever. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You went to the Super y'all went to the Player,
You went to the Super Bowl eighty Wandra Warskin. You
got beat by the wild Card Raiders, and you went
again with Donovan and then you got beat by the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You went back with Nick Foles and you won. You
went back with j you loss, You go back again
and you win. But it's hard to win in this league.
See what has happened on you? You know what has happened.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The Patriots and the Chiefs got people thinking winning every year,
winning the division every year, going to the playoffs and
going to the super Bowl. That's that's easy.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Ain't easy at all.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They made it look easy. Now, yes, they did do
They made it look easy. So the thing is is
possible for everyone else to do it? No, coming off
a Super Bowl win, man, the chance that you're actually
repeating is extremely hard because.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You play the toughest schedule every year. You get division winners.
Every year.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You already play your division you get now you're gonna
play your division winners, and now you're gonna play another division.
So this year they played the AFC West, the Chargers,
the Broncos, the Raiders, and the Chiefs. Next year, who knows,
they might be the South, right, it might be the North.
You might have to played, you know, the Steelers. Well
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that was that might have been. That might have been
two years ago they played the Steelers or something. But anyway,
you're gonna have to play another no, bro, I mean
for them to even suggest such foolishness, are you know?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That's how it started though. Now, yeah, it is coming
from somewhere. The call and the knock always come from
inside the house always.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, oh Joe, they better sit down and enjoy this. Yeah, okay, yeah,
the devil you know, is better than the one you don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Mm hm oh that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Hold on, you keep on. I mean, look, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You see hey, you see Josh Allen, and you see
my home. You see Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
And oh, I that's what I want. I won't that.
I won't that. I want that.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Okay, Hey, you said what you said, the devil, the devil?
Speaker 6 (28:59):
You know what's better than the one you don't exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Hey, that's a good one. Now I'm gonna use that
in my next argument.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Why you get in the argument you'll be looking to argue.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, so I can use your quotes.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Whatelse man, Oh, don't be bringing in your foolishness. He can.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I get man. Look here me and cambody. We got
along great. We had a great old time. We were
talking laughing. But you know she was having a good time.
You're like, okay, how you doing? Yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
But I need to be able to hit up with
these quotes and the like I like. I like to
sound like Confucius. You know, at times like that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
You've been sounding like confusion. Why don't you just be right?
Why don't you just do the right thing? Why you
got a buck so much.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
But sometimes it's always good to go right, but sometimes
they like to go left.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Joey, you like to
be a looking batter man.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Now keep everything balanced, Joe, No o, Joe, don't you
like Pete?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I mean, hold on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I saw somebody say they've been a relationship for like
like ten years and they've really never had an art.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh with that.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
George Clooney, George Clooney's ain't been mad to him and
his wife have never had an argument out here. Taylor's
Taylor excuse me, Kelsey on this pond say him and
Taylor really never had no that's.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What I won't.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Hey, don't you want that stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
They just be saying stuff. You know, the camera there
people gonna see it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And man, because sometimes you leave a dish in the
sing when you could have put it in a You
that't something on the floor when you could have put it.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Up in the basket.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, it's hard to not have no disagreement. That's that's
that's I mean zero, I'm talking about zero disagreement.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You know that ain't true, you know, and that no
disrespect to them, Like, come on, now, you ain't got They.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Got a lot of us.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I ain't got a lot of us.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Because y'all said it ain't possible. It ain't possible to
be in a relationship and not argue, not have a disagreement.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
A disagreement, okay, okay, okay, And most disagreements.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Turned, dude, lead to an argument.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, verbal altercation.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
It happened, not necessarily, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Because here's the thing, Joe, what happens. Let's just say
for this, this is how it happens. Okay, you are okay,
you're right. Oh you're right. Oh you just don't care.
You just said I right just to shut me up. No,
you're right, No, I ain't right. What have I been
right before? You normally you normally got something to say. Man,
I'm saying you're right.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
I was wrong. Oh now you wrong. You ain't been
wrong before, so now you wrong?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
You dead wrong?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I'm right. Oh now you're right because I said it.
See I knew you didn't mean it. See now what
could have just better fight disagreement? You're right, right, I
got lazy.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I put it in the sink when I could have
just put it in a dish. You right, baby, you're right.
Instead of instead of taking.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The trash out of trash can and put it in
the big bag and leave it on the floor, I
could have just, you know what, put it in, put
it in the big black big bag and take it
to the trash.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Can you right?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I'm lazy? You're right, I'm lazy. That is that is
not like hearing them to be lazy. Oh oh you
just said that. You don't mean it. I know you
don't need it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I could have done that, but I was tired, ye see,
so what could have been something easy? And then I
just like, okay, you're right now, I ain't got no
fight in But then they all rob a fight?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
How did rob the fire? Right you? I used to
debate with the best of them.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
That's me. That's me.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
That's me.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Sometimes it ain't worth it, man to get you get
your water boiling like that. It ain't worth it for something,
I tell you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
You know, Joe, if you don't do it often, See
I don't do it often, Joe. I'm not combative. I
don't like conflict, Joe. But every so often, every bom moon,
it's almost like for a play in a sense. Huh,
you setting it up for later.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
You setting the you know the call, the play call.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel me. Yeah, your hopeing that
that's the fasket call on the two point play. That's
your best call. That's your best call for you. That's
your best call on your normally your best call.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You got give me your best fourth down play. You
got one, you got too, not the best one, Okay,
your best two point play. Yeah, that was the best
two point play. So you know other word you said,
I hope, oh you, I really hope you setting this up.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
You got some call. I really hope it's a ball burner, jo.
I hope he got something playing a.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, Joe, and it starts. This starts. You let it
marin it throughout the day. Let let it marin it
throughout the day. Start something, you know, Nah.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I don't start nothing, No, Joe.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Sometimes you gotta do it on purpose.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Je.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I'm talking even if the day going perfect. I'm talking
about y'all both having a good day out of nowhere.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, just yeah, Joe, just start something, Joe, like, just
pull a hair something. Make when of the tracks come out,
you know, she got she got trading.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
No, no, no, he got no trade. We got no
trade over here.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Okay, Okay, I'm bad.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Heydd oh, Joe DoD. I'm just me.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I just like, okay, you're right, just leave it alone.
I just I just want I don't I don't really like.
I mean because I used to debate for a living.
So if I don't want to debate, I don't want
to come home with debate.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yeah. I know, I know it's right. I just want.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Hey, I'll say, I said to you, right, let it go.
But if I say let it go, just let it go. Yeah,
women ain't gonna well, the women that I've dealt with
ain't gonna let it go.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
No, sometimes they can't let it go on. They try
to pull it that other side up out there and
then when it come out, yeah, ain't looking crazy? Yeah,
oh oh you like that.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I say let it go.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I said they let it go, just let it go.
I just let me watch TV. Now you come stand
in front of me and the TV.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Okay, I go downstairs. I go to the enterable room.
They coming right down there too, right down with you.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh that's your problem. You don't know how to communicate,
You don't know how to I said, but now it's
not a good time.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I'll talk. I said, Look, let me calm down. We'll
have this discussion.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
I want to talk, right, I can't.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Hey, y'all got it a joe y'all and listen, when
you eat your food, right, Yeah, you gotta add seasoning.
You got to add some type of flavor. And listen, Look, argument,
a little debate. That ain't nothing but seasoning.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
That's all it is. You know, a little salt, little pepper.
You know, love paprika?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah? Too much?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Look, you know sometime you get chicken, add your little
lemon pepper to it, barbecue sauce to it.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
That's all it is.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Do you add a little faction after all that?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So you you you a sex after argument type of guy?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Me?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, I mean for the right price.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah price you are? You don't charge? Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
What Averberry reported that Kevin Stefanski likes likely wants out
of Cleveland. The one thing that would be really frustrating
for me if the coach in Cleveland you've been trying
to make decisions for football reasons and no one will
accept them. I can tell you just knowing the number
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of people that I know worked there. That quarterback situation
was handled this year, over the last six seven months,
in a way that was based solely on how were
performing in practice. It makes the Fanski look bad now
because you're George played well, if you're Kevin and you're
making all these decisions based on football decision and you
made a lot of other decisions over the years that
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were constantly second guess this way is constantly its circus. Well,
you'd be sick of it. Has this become you know,
this has to work out for either one of us
in the last couple of years. So maybe it's just time.
He's six and twenty four, two fifty win percentage over
the last two years, he's a two time coach of
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the Year.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
O Joe, Yeah, what are you think it?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
I mean it's tough. I think Defanski is in a
tough spot.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Obviously, you're six and twenty four, having, you know, on
your resume being coach of the Year two times. I
think that that saved you and gives you a little
bit more grace. But obviously you know you can't operate
without a quarterback. You can't operate without a quarterback, So
understanding what we see from Shador so far and the
the stuff and the actions that occurred before he was
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put in position to be the starter. Obviously, you always
want you want your best player out there playing quarterback
for you. That gives you your best chance to win.
And most of the time I said all the time, Uncle,
you said, all the time, players get coaches fired. Players
get coaches fired. So for a coach, you would always
want to be in a position to have players in
there that can do right by you, that can do right,
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do right by you, not just you, but your team
team as well, and give yourself a chance and give
you some grace and longevity as a coach. So I'm
not sure why they're playing, why the games have been
played in general in Cleveland. It's been a damn circus. Uh,
there's been a goddamn circuit, Joe. So it just in
just some of the some of the play call.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
I don't want to get into all that. We've all
seen it. We've all heard it.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
You know something's right, and anyone that says it's not
right based on all the evidence that we've seen since
the draft up until this point, I mean, you just
turned the blind eye to the bulls shit?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What what if it is a situation O Joe with
Kevin Stefanski really wanted to place your door.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
And he was handcuffed. But hold on, do you think
that's that's what it sounds like to man?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I mean, if we're to believe what average bread is
being reported, how much how much say do we believe?
Speaker 6 (39:24):
How much say do we believe that.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Kevin stefanskn have over the final fIF the final fifty three?
How much say does he have in the draft? How
much say does he have in free agency? Does he
have say like say Mike Tomlin, like an Andy Reid,
like a Sean McVay, he has a Mike Rabel. Do
you think he has that kind of say?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Oh, Joe, I would think so.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Sean Payton, two time Coach of the Year would have
him say so, and and some of the personnel that
he brings in.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I would think so. And I told Joe. I told
on the other night.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Right with some of the things ever going on, I
felt like basically Kevin Stefanski was basically Nico Harris.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Yeah. I felt he was taking the fall.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
He's taking the fall for all for the upper management
above his pay grade. That no owner came out and said, listen,
this wasn't my pick. I didn't want you to do it.
So I think he's taking the blunt and all the
heat and and and his hands are tied. So I mean, uncle,
what you said. It might be a possibility. We had
no control over it, and maybe he did want him
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to start the whole time. But you know there's a
pecking order, like we just.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Turned around.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Third round pick. Oh well, he's the third round pick
for a reason, so he's always going to be get
first DIBs no matter what.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And you're not.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You're not you're not normally taking quarterbacks a third and
because you're asking for trouble. The last time we saw
somebody take a quarterback because look, go back and look
at Washington. Mike didn't want to take a quarterback. Didn't
want to trade that pick. He felt they could sit
right there where they were and get the quarterback that
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they wanted. He really liked cousins. He felt he could
get cousins where they got cousins and could be fine. Yeah,
you're in salary cap hell, because remember that was the
year that the uncapped year, and everybody dumped all their
money in that Dallas and Washington had to pay all
that salary cap money because they had dumped all that
in a non cap year, and the NFL said, now,
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you couldn't do that.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
You're cheating.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So they take a quarterback at number two, and then
they turn right around and take cousins. How did you
think this was gonna work out?
Speaker 6 (41:36):
On Joe?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You take a quarterback in the third round, and then
you take another quarterback in the fifth round. How did
you think this is gonna work out?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I think maybe maybe maybe. Security. That's the only thing
I can think of. Security and asking for trouble understanding.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
That Joe Flacco was gonna only give only give you
so much time left at his age.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
You know, okay, we got yes, What are we sure?
Dylan Gabriel is the answer. You know what, We're not sure.
So we're gonna take another one while you take it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Who goes into the normally, that's not how you suppoke
That's not how you draft Joe. You don't draft the
guy and say, well he might not be it. If
you think he might not be it while you drafted
that good question. But I mean, I'm not going to
the store.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Who you buy the car? Man?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
This car might put me down. So but I'm gonna
go ahead buy it anyway. Yeah, go ahead, Joe, listen.
But but when we think about it, statistically, from training
camp to preseason, Shadur has had the best statistics from
what we've seen.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Yes, you know what I mean. So it's like to me,
it almost kind of feels like perfect time.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
Like you say, Gabriel went Dylan, Gabral went third, third round,
and Shadu went filth. It's kind of a pegging water.
I'm kind of picking back what Oo said. But I
think Shaduur has now took the rings and I don't
think he's gonna give it back.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
I think the young man is he knows what's at state.
He knows itbody's watching. And uh man, he just looked
like a guy with a lot of confidence and poise
out there. He looked great under center.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And you think about it, Oh, Joe, look at the
guys he was throwing to, All the guys that he
was throwing to with the rookies that came in with him.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yeah, so it's not an accident. Those are the most
of the guys that he was getting the reps with. Right.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's just hard for me to see a scenario. I mean, like,
like I said, some people say that didn't happen, but
I've never been on a team where the backup didn't
get something, didn't get at.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Least two reps period right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Always.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
I mean we had veterans.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
We had a veteran quarterback in Trent Dilferd who backed
up Tony Banks and he still got two reps period.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We had a veteran Randall Cunningham who backed up Elvis'
girl back and he still got two reps period A three.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yeah, I play with Yeah, Hey, what is that thousand
one Baltimore?
Speaker 5 (44:02):
It is Dupe.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
I ain't no random I was there? Yeah, I ain't
no random was there?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So so this notion that you wouldn't give a rookie
that had the potential to go in the game any
reps when veterans that have been starters, had been to
Pro Bowls was getting reps. It's just it was just
uncomfortable to me that people thought that was okay. That's
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what I couldn't That's what I couldn't understand. Look, if
y'all don't understand.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
I'm like, man, I don't know what's going.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
On out here.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Look, we know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Every coach, every general manager has they guy in the
media when they want to get certain things out.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Joe, Yeah, they know how to get it out.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm saying
I know that to be factual. So when I want
to get something out, I know who to get it to,
sources in the NFL. No, your source with the team
told you that the NFL. Your source with the team
told you that.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
I know how it works. I just like you to me.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I just like to to I just talk because I
don't like to get information. I don't because I be
I I be using it and they're gonna Yeah, the
person that I'm talking about go, No, I got that
from a very very reputable person.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
So I just letten. I just let stuff go. I
just like it.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Hey, from my from my personal experience and how stuff go.
But y'all best believe.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
But I mean he's a two time Coach of the Year. Oh, Joe, h,
I don't know. It looks the banker situation, how that
worked out that you do or how that's playing out.
Who knows, maybe maybe they maybe they want a high
draft pick. I don't know, Uh Mindoze, I believe Mendoza
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is gonna win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday. Yeah, it's
just like and he ojo. He might turn around and
he might be who knows, great, historically great? Right, But
as I look at him and look at your door,
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I mean, if your door had that kind of offensive
line protection when he was in college, are we are
we sure?
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
So, I don't know if the fansk you want out.
Maybe that's a situation where they probably want him out.
I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I mean, he
is a two time coach of the year. Ohoe, he
is fairly young. But we'll look, there's gonna be some openings.
What well, first of all, we already know there's gonna
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be two openings in Tennessee and the Giants, and the
likelihood there might be more.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Who knows, it might be one in Las Vegas. Damn,
don't know. You and Pete just got there, huh yeah,
just be leaving too.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
But hey, the thing is and the NFL, if you
remember o Yo, a couple of years ago, they sent
that membo out man, y'all gotta stop hiring and firing,
because think about it. The John Gruden thing, he got
ap on the contract, he still got to pay that.
Now you got Pete. So you got three guys that
ain't coaching for you that you're paying. And then if
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you bring another coach in, you gotta pay him.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
That's form and.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Staff, that's in patience and patience.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
So it's gonna be very interesting to see how this
thing plays out, o Jo. But at the end of
the day, you know what's in that division. Joe Burrow's
in that division. When he's healthy, he's under believable. The
thing is is that he does he's not healthy.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Lamar is in that division. I just Lamar is hurt
and he's missing throws and he's not like that. He's
not running like he once did, Ojoe, because I think
he's afraid he's gonna hurt that hamstring again and so
he he Look, Lamar is missing throws that Lamar hadn't
missed since his rookie year. So in order for you
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to be in that division, your quarterback's gotta play well.
You got Aaron Rodgers. Now we don't know if he's
gonna come back, you know, be at forty two and
coming back. I don't know, uh, but you gotta you
got you gotta have a quarterback in that division, just
like the AFC, the AFC West, you gotta have a quarterback.
ALC South quarterback. You got Stroud, you got Lawrence, And
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they had competent quarterback play and and and and ended
for a while until he got hurt. And now it
seemed like he's going to hell in the half basket.
They brought a granddad out of retirement. So it's gonna
it's gonna be very, very interested to see how this
thing plays out in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
They y'all think they're gonna sign Philip River. They already
signed it. Oh did it?
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
The question is he gonna start? That's the question. Ain't
the question if they're gonna sign, is he gonna start?
Speaker 6 (49:19):
I'm saying who else they got they can play in
front him? They got Riley Leonard, but he got a
banged up knee.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yeah, he's starting, He's starting. He started. Listen, hey, Joe.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
I mean there's a relationship and understanding of scheme and
tactics between Shane Stichen and Philip Rivers. So the system,
he's very familiar with it. And because he's so familiar
with the system, all it is now and is getting
as much timing and chemistry as you can, you know,
with the offense and with the players right now.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
But he's gonna start Sunday.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
I'm sorry out for what he does is he's giving
and hoping and giving that team a chance to keep
their head above water because they still have a chance
to make the playoffs and they're just trying to see this.
We're gonna kick We're gonna kick these tires and see
what Philip Rivers can do for us, you know, for
the rest of the season and see if we can
make a run, make a run at the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
And they got to in there.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
They gotta stay high because they gave their two first
round picks. Hey, they give them two first round picks,
and the further you fall down in the standing to
how those picks are.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
So guess what next year.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
If Daniel Jones doesn't come back healthy until because he
was dealing with a broken leg and now you've got
to tourn a key leave so he's got to heal
two injuries.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
Now you mess around it, Now you mess around. It
be like the NB of old.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, well, the Jet's gonna get a top five pick,
not have two top five picks because they gonna look
like they might be some slow because they're looking for
a quarterback too.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
You now you're right back at square one, Hey.
Speaker 8 (50:50):
Them injury is gonna take a while to heal. I mean,
you ain't gonna be the rest Dames Jones back with
them two injuries right.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
There, and that was the only reason. That was the
only reason they was playing with that broken I think
it was Timmy or the lower leg tip fibula fibula.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
That's the only reason playing o Jo and Jones because
they were in prime position to make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
That means the pick's gonna probably be way on down there,
twenty four, somewhere between twenty.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Four and thirty two. You can live with that.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
I ain't really trying to get no top ten no
you know, team pick, no no early team, no top
ten pick. I ain't really try to do that for you,
bro right, because they went all in. When you make
that trade for Sauce Gardener, you're basically saying I'm all in.
I'm jumping on this thing with both feet. Yeah, how
long song's gonna be out?
Speaker 6 (51:49):
He nicked. I mean they got a calf injury. I
ain't no telling.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And then plus Daniel Jones, it don't matter what Sau's doing.
You gotta have a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
Yeah. Hell, he can't throw the ball, and he.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Might he might be forty four, but that's all you got.
That's okay, and even at forty.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Four, and it's hard for me to believe. It's hard
for me to believe that you couldn't go. You couldn't.
You couldn't scour thirty one other teams practice squad and said, hey, bro, this.
Speaker 6 (52:21):
Is an opportunity for you to start.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I mean they reached out to Sam Ellinger, who's on
the Broncos practice squad. He said, no, I'm good. He said,
all y'all gonna do is get me over there, and
then at the end of the season, y'all gonna cut me.
Let me stay right there where I am. I know
the system.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
I'm cool.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Yeah, and hold on, I got one for you better
thirty one other teams with thirty one other backups. How
many of those thirty one of the backups are better
than Philip Rivers even right now at forty four.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, we're gonna find out on Sunday, right, and so
I want you to wear your ass over your Sunday.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
All right, because you listen, you.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Know this, Your fidy senses, even in the off season,
from the time that you from the time your last
game until the time you come back, your fighting senses
have to heighten. They have to get back in alignment.
They don't tingle like they once did. Can you imagine,
O Joe, can you imagine, Let's just say for the
singer argument, Ojoe, you thirty, you don't play the game
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for five years, and they say, you know what, Ojo,
come on back out and you come back out there
at thirty five, Boy.
Speaker 6 (53:28):
You're gonna be running through mans. Don't read. They're gonna
be tearing your ass up. You're gonna be. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I think if anything, he might be just be a
beat off. That's it. Yeah, gonna be.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
It ain't nothing changed, O Joy. It's not like he
was running. It's not like he was Michael Vick before
he left.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Absolutely, he was stationary. He had cement shoes on when
he was twenty five. Shit, man, he was gonna bend lead.
He's gonna be handing that thing on mm hmm. Y'all,
when you see what they did, is that because they
know Daniel Jones can't run like he was dead. They
stacked the line. They said, no, we're not gonna let
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We're not gonna let y'all j T beaters, beaters throwing
the ball.
Speaker 6 (54:15):
They took that away from him.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
H
Yeah, we got a bad special guest joining us. He
had the game winning interception of Jalen Hurs on Monday
Night Football Tony Jefferson. In year and eleven, he had
four interceptions, matching his career total across the previous ten season.
To ay, I mean, is it a different type of glove?
I mean you get Lasik surgery, you wear glasses. How
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do you have as many interceptions in one season? With
three with four game with four game with four games,
the three four games to play that you had in
the previous ten season when you played one hundred and
seventy games.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's that experience.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Experience, man, Okay, getting putting myself in the right position,
you know, game planning more mature mentally as a football player.
And you know, yes when you see when you've seen
it all man like you like you recognize stuff like.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A lot quicker. So I think that's really what it's
been bro to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hey, when I think about a team, you know, looking
at you guys defensively, if I'm not mistaken you guys,
or rank maybe I think maybe fourth statistically.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
And what what do you what do you.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Credit you know for you guys' success on defense in
the way you guys are playing this season, it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Starts from the time. I think it starts from coaching.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I think, yes, uh, the game plan every week, starting
from Jesson Minner and then trickling down to our secondary coaches.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Coach Clink and Coach Fuller. Really they just invest.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Really you could tell they they put their all into
the game plan and make it simple for us. You know,
you know each week it's different. It's always a different
challenge each week. And I think they give us the
right tools that fit us. And you know, they also
give us the freedom to allow us to make the
costs that we feel like is best as as players
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out there that fits us too.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So just out there company for me, right, That's dope.
That's dope.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Let me ask you hold on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
In mayl twenty twenty three, you're like, Okay, I'm gonna
retire and I'm gonna go into the scouting department with
the Ravens. Then you unretire. What went what went into
the decision? Like, You're like, you know what, it's tied,
but I think it's time for me to transition to
do something else where your body beat up or you
just felt like, I'm just tired of doing this, getting
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up and putting my body through this training every day,
and then you unretire. What went into those two decisions
to make you retire and then the decision to retire.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Honestly, I had Liz Frank mob and I was playing
in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, and its Frank.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't know if anybody that It's one of the
most painful injuries to have.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I didn't get the surgery.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I played.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I missed nine games.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I played through it, and I was like, there's no
way I can go on to next season and like
feel like the player that I felt like I could be.
So I had already had conversations with Eric DaCosta the
gym with the Ravens, and uh, we talked about it
as even as a player, about me, you know, wanting
to get into scouting and get it to the front office.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Post post football.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So I already had that lineup and I felt like
it was a good, uh and easy transition for me
to be able to do that. And you know, so
I went into that and as you know.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
As a scout, you're grinding a lot of film. All
you're doing is watching.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
That's all you do all day.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the more I was watching film and grinding film,
I'm like, okay, I'm better.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I know I'm better than this. Dude.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, dude, you watching field with guys, you know you
better be like, whoa, he should be doing this, I
should be doing what he does exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And then me me still just being around the game,
like and a bunch of my former teammates work on
the team, so like I'm still around them, yet I'm
working in the front office.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So it was like, man, I'm still around it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Like we had went to the ANC Championship that year
against the Chiefs and that my juices were still going
and they were falling. You know, I would be going
on the field pregame and I'm like sizing up the
other team.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like I still had that in me. So, you know,
I went to the.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Senior Bowl as as a scout and I was there
and I came back home and I was like, I
hit up the gym with the rads. I'm like, yeah,
I'm done, I'm done, and I went home started training.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Rest is history.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, this, Tony, and you don't have to like
jump on it. But I was like, when you broke
when you guys look at the Eagles offense, obviously there
are some things that you saw that you could.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
When you looked at this offense, what is it that
you felt most comfortable? What were you trying to do,
because other than that big run, long run that Saquan had,
your dad did a pretty good job of bottling him up.
What was your game plan? Was it like, Okay, we
got to make Jalen throw from the pocket. We want
to push him one way or another. Is there anything
in particular that you can devote that you felt that
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you got Okay, we got to beat on him. We
think we know what he's going to do, and let's
let's let's force him.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
To play to you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And I think, I think, honestly, I just felt like, uh,
even like I said before, from the standpoint of uh
uh game planning, I felt like we felt comfortable with
us with the matchups that we had, that they were
a matchup driven offense. Obviously they want to get the
run game going with Saquan. Obviously he deserves our respect,
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but we felt like we were ready for that. And
then when we when we felt like when we were
able to get the run stop we want. We were
ready for Jaialen to throw the ball. We liked our matchups.
I mean we had we had a few kids, few
interceptions right around, Like we were just confident out there
and like we always say, like where where the team
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you want to play on Prime Time?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like you're right, yeah, and you know ta. I also
have another question for me watching at home. I tell
Uncle all the time and people in the chat that
that are watching, I'm sure those who have been around
the game for a very long time.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Is it me? You know?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I don't mean I'm not trying to bass the Eagles, please.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I like the Eagles, you know, especially offensively and what
they what they do on defense.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But is it me?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Or is it offense very predictable based on what they're doing,
based on alignments, based on down and distance.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Isn't it for you?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Doesn't it make your job a little bit easier based
on what you see on film week the week in
the game that you watch that they played previously, they
show the same exact thing.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Where's so much we God, damn, I just watched this.
I just watched this two days ago.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
In here come in here, come again, that same short
motion coming in coming in coming in to go out
or going out to come in.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I agree with what you're saying. I think they have
very strong tendencies.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Uh oh, you mean to tell me they gonna throw
they gonna throw a j that go ball or he
on the left side with the two yards ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You go, I say, politically, craft, you know there right right.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very strong. I have very strong tendencies.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's something like like I said, like, I feel like
we do a great job with of game plan and
really understanding the tendencies, and it trickles down from the top.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Lets us play.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Fast, your quarterback, brak. He got breaks the bone in his
non throwing hand. He has surgery. I think it's Monday,
and then he's gonna have to wear a plate and
he comes back. What type of energery? What type of
juice did that bring? Knowing the guy just has surgery,
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he's a quarterback, and it's I mean, he's not gonna
be able to do like the typical hand I'm going
to the right. He got a back handed with his
right hand because he can't you can't open his hand
and close his hand like you normally would with his
left hand.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
What did that? What did that mean?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean to have your quarterback knowing that man, this
joke had just had surgery like a week ago and
here out here on the football field, and you know
how physically demanding and how mentally tough you gotta be
to play this game.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Plus I mean I just start off with I remember
seeing it when it happened when in the in the game,
I saw it happen to hit the dude's helmet and
he's doing this.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I'm like, oh yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Still finished and completed the game, so they're off rip.
I'm like, man, like, that's my QB man. And then
come to find out he gets surgery on I believe Monday,
and dudes out at practice on like Wednesday, like all right,
what we doing?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Like Like I'm like, bro, you know what's like that?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Like that right there is just like it moti like
motivates you.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Especially as a defense It's like, okay, like our QB's
out here like literally with one.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Hand, willing to fight and die on the field for.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Us, Like it's really something that resonates with you as
a defense man. I know specifically for us, like we
really we took be serious into heart.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I don't think there's a better person to ask than you.
What are the biggest difference between Jim and John Harvard
coach coaches South.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
To be honest, they're really similar. I think like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Both of them are just like pure football guys, Like
it's everything is football, you know what I'm saying. I'll
be if you go up to coach at Jim and
you ask them, You're like, hey, coach, what's up?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They said, football like my life to all their whole family,
Like it's about football, and I respect that. I respect it.
They're about winning.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They take winning serious and at the same time their
player coaches like, I love both of them. Jim Harbo,
my current head coach UH coming out of high school
to my very first offer, he was at Stanford. I
went to a full contact camp because I didn't do
none of the seven on sevens and shorts back then.
If it wasn't a full contact camp, I wasn't going,
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Like that's how dan.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I wanted to go hit something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And me and me and Harbo we connected that way
because he felt the way I played Like We've always
just been fans with each other. So I think they're
both similar personality wise. I think I always say John's
more a little like this, a lot more and Jim's
more like this.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So you know that's that's really the difference between him.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Uh, I'm looking at your last four games.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, you're at the Chiefs this week in Kansas City,
then you go to Cowboys at Dallas. Then you get
the Texans and you know what their defense represents. And
then for the division, this might be for the division,
le Broncos at home, you got the gone you guys,
basically you win this division, you would have earned them.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Doubt about it. Obviously this weekend, like we know we're
gonna get the best the Chiefs. We we are not full.
You know, we understand. You know they're season up and down.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I was born.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You can deal. You can deal to death blow, Yeah,
you can deal to death playing. You can do something
that nobody has ever been able to do since my
home has been well, they had last time they didn't
make the playoffs, and god knows when, but they've been
to the AMC Championship every year that Mahome has been
a startup. How only can you not make sure that
you can make sure they don't even make the playoffs,
there's no chance for them to get to the AMC
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Championship game. A lot of teams accounting on you, Tony
to deal that death blow.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We know, we know we're gonna get their best shot.
So you have the wheel, q uh you know. Then
we go to Dallas and then we're at Homing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's the Texas. We need that. We need that get back.
We don't have to last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Ready for that one too, But uh yeah, we're ready.
We're ready. We're looking our crops, We're ready to go.
Play like we're motivated. We're playing good ball right now.
I just got to keep it rolling.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, you guys are playing good ball on both sides
of the ball. Obviously your quarterback just has to be
consistent going and going on the back end of the season,
going to the playoffs. You have a superb chance to
win the division and then probably the division game is
going to be based on that last game against the Broncos.
And how will you guys play and do and ship man?
Y'all boys balling, Man, y'all, y'all boys balling. I get
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a joy out of watching you guys play, not even offensively,
seeing what you guys do defensively. You know, I'm even
though I was a receiver, I am I'm a huge
fan of back back in play safety DBS and just
understanding and knowing what I'm watching and what you guys
are doing and what everybody's responsibility is.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So it's been a joy to watch all y'all boys.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, y'all got y'all, got y'all inside backers. They're
a little underside, but boy, they side. They so impairment.
And we know what Khalil Mack is. Khalil Mack. If
you need him to set the edge, you can set
the edge. You want him to bull, he can bull.
You want him to rip, you want him arm over,
arm under?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
He can do all that? What's forty five? What's that?
What's that? Here's some more on the other side.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah to hey, bro, if I'm in a bar fight,
I want to I want to with me.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Yeah, bad.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, Hey, Tony, congratulations man on everything. Hey, you made
the right decision. Because here's the thing, You're gonna have
other opportunities to be a scout. You don't get another
whole lot of opportunities. I mean, you're not gonna get
that Philip Rivers treatment. You're not gonna get forty four.
They're gonna call your ass to come play safety. Okay,
So you make sure you get all of that out
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of your system because you're never gonna find another job
to replace what it's like to have that camaraderie in
the locker room, on the plane, on.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
The bus, on the practice field.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So you make sure this time you get all of
that out of your system because you might not get
the might not be as fortunate to get that call
back to come back and play it again.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But congratulations on having a great season. Stay healthy, and
we look forward to talking to you down the road.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
A t at do me fa aten, do me a favor?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Hey doing?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Tell tell Quinn Johnston, tell him, I say, keep that
ship going, finish the season off, strong man, keep that
ship going, man, and keep.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That look all right, appreciate the man.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So the Eagle's Positivity Rabbit makes a quick exit. Bill
Jeff mcclaims the Philadelphia Inquire The inflatable rabbit that was
installed last week to bring good vibes to the Eagle
locker room has been removed already. Charges in the first
and only game played with the rabbit in the house. Joe,
you ever do something like this in the locker room
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to help you break a losing street.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
No, not that I could think not that I can
think of. But you got to get that up out
of there. Boy, Hey, that was that was a you
gotta go, bro.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
So they gonna blame it on the rabbit.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
They blame it on the rabbit. Yeah, yeah, you gotta
blame somebody. I mean, hey, oh, Joe, what do you
care for? Good luck?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
A rabbit's foot. They got a whole big ass rabbit
in there. They ain't making no Look, you got to go. Yeah,
my brother we went to the fair. Uh, if my
brother run a rabbit's foot, you don't used to have
rabbit foot key change, Joe?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, if my brother WoT a rabbit foot, a rabbit
foot key change. If our grandpa took it and put
the house keys on the I was like, I don't
know why we got a house. Ain't nobody gonna bring
it in rabbit, I mean, ain't nobody gonna break it here?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Trust me. What time the robin did break in the house,
we robbed him. Get your cass up out of here.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But I mean they didn't even get a thing of
chance though. God, I mean one week. Now, when you
lose like that, don't tell y'all know, hey, some guys.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
To go Hey. Same same thing, same thing with the ravens.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
See, they took all them TV took TVs out, ping pong, machine,
popper shot.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They better put them back in there because they had
been losing everything. There was a couple of games they
been losing every since. Put them back in there. As
a matter of fact, brain for new ones, y'all, keep
them all was out for brain for new ones.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
That stuff ain't got nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Look here, man, we had a situation where I think
we lost. This was ninety four, ninety four. I think
we started the season oh and four man, Joe, oh, Joe.
We come to work Wednesday. Everybody got a got a
piece of rope by this long hanging in the locker.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Just hold on to the rope, guys, It's gonna get better.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
You know, when you're getting bad, you gotta find a
way to shake things up. Man, You gotta find shake
things up trying to get back on track. That's the
hardest part.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You're going to lose the streak, it seems like if
you can't get off it, you can't. It's the same
thing with a winning streak. You seem like, when you
go on the winning street, you can't lose.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You fight.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
When you kick a field you kick a walk off
field goal, you block a field goal, you do something,
a pass, interfires, call to keep a drive alive. Now
you're able to run out the clock or Joe gets something.
But when you lose, you're like, damn.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
And it's funny too, Hey, uncle Joe.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
When you're winning, for some reason, luckers always on your side, because, yeah,
win consistently, you need a little bit of luck. Obviously,
preparation is one thing. But for some reason, everything always
seemed to go right. The ball always bounces your favor,
or the ball always bounce your weight.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But when you're losing, you.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Don't want you don't want to talk nobody. Now what
we talking about? Man, Listen, I know that feeling. I
promise you when I got here Atlanta, Ojo in two
thousand and five, when I first got here Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, we're bad man.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
We started off three and twenty eight. Damn, Joe, we
start off three and twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And y'all could have used me back then.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Joe.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Wait listen, okay o, Joe, I wasn't even eating. I'm
coming home, going right to sleep. I don't want to
hang out. I don't want to do nothing. I can't
even enjoy myself. When you lose it like that, you
get yourself. You know what happened, Joe, somebody see y'all
that's why you lose it. You need to have your
ass playbook. Damn, bro, I can't get no fool like
(18:38):
I got right hey, I mean, black guy here nothing.
It's hard, man. Yeah, you know, feeling and don't go
to no club.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh man, Man, if you lose, can you imagine that
because it ain't like it is now.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I mean I don't know if maybe they still do it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Maybe they still you know guys, they still guy at
the club and they's like, that's why y'all lose.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
You're asking the club all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But and probably now if you're at the club, they
probably put that thing on social media.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, now you've got social media, you got platform
where people see you out.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, take a picture.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yeah, it's the world's small or now you can't do nothing, man,
I'm talking about nothing. Somebody always watching. You're right, somebody's
always watching.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Hey man, let me tell you what happened to me today.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Joe, oh yo, I started to film this Lika, Joe,
you're enjoying back there laughing. So I go down shell
it order me an Uber. I go down the guys.
The guys like miss Davis. I was like, yeah, that's me.
I go get into Uber. We're about fifteen minutes here.
(19:52):
Jordan called, hey, boss, you got the wrong car. I said, nah,
he's saying miss Davis. A minute later, dispatch call, he's speaker,
you picked up the wrong you picked up the wrong
you picked up the wrong passage. Uh, such and such.
I was like, he's saying Miss Davis. No, there was
(20:15):
another Miss Davis. There was two Miss Davis.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Wow, oh Joe. I didn't move for a pull side
of the road and put me right out on Santa Monica. Man,
get out of him? What of God? And you got out?
I ain't got no choice. But why an't take you
back to the hotewn man?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I was I was close to where I was, closer
to where I needed to be. Then driving me all
the way back to the hotel oh, so you walked
when you had to go? Nah shall they called me
another uber?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Hey, he would have had to drop me off. Man,
you got me, you got me messed up?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Nah man, they got they got recorded in there. And
plus I'm on probation right now, so I had to
be on my best day. Okay, I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Because now I'm like boy apple, I said, Man, just
this drop mouth right here. He's like, I can't take it.
He said, I can't take you no further. I was like,
bro we I looked at the GPS. Oh Joe, were like,
it's gonna take him twenty minutes to get back to
the hotel. It's gonna take himself minutes to drop me off.
I say, just tell her to get to get into
the the uber that was for me. She didn't want
(21:16):
to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Oh so she Oh she wanted them okay.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Mmmm. So man pulled inside the roll. Hey, hey, you
really ain't got no answer on your phone, do you?
I don't know. No, No, Shelley or Jordan.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Like Jordan, Jordan having Jordan having a time and he
knows like after a certain time were about to wrap up,
he'll call the uber. They give us fifteen minutes to
get you know, get out there, and so once we
take the picture. I many things, but I don't I don't. Oh,
let me tell you what up. Look at Jordan laugh.
He's just laughing. So you know in room dining thing,
they don't let you call down it or the room
(21:55):
service no more. You got the skin of KRK the
QR code, so you know, hey, I said, man, oh
you see, I don't know how to do nothing.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Man, I don't book me a two nights stare at
the hotel.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That was Jordan lambing. Sharrey called me, say why you
booked two nights at the hotel? I said, he ain't
book no two nights at the hotel. I ordered breakfast.
She said, you ain't order no damn breakfast. You got
to You got a king sweep for two nights next week?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Oh, Joe, I thought, I ordered me an eggs, sayd
but just some orange juice.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Now you see why I don't be fooling with the maps, Ojoe,
because all my money I been up spending. I'll beat
up spent two hundred thousand dollars on a flower arrangement.
That's why I don't fool with it.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
You gotta be a little text savvage. Man. We got
to send you to a class man.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
No, that's what Jordan are for, George Whitney, class man.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was like, man, yo, put oh Joe, Joe put
me out there. Joe, pull right to the side, I said, Man,
Oh Joe. He stopped in the middle of the road.
I said, well, Man, can't you pull like right over
to the side.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Man, Damn, that's that's not done. I know, because the
uncle I know won't get down no car.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Hey, he ain't got South. He ain't got a South
video Joe, Jo got they got your boy now, you
know A yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Hey, hey, you know if I wasn't no profation on Yoe.
I'm trying to make it twenty six. I'm trying to
make it the twenty six with no mishaps.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, but you can't let people just take advantage of
you like that.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Outside I get on that.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah, hey the devil work. Yeah, he tried to get it. Remember,
oh Joe, I said, patience? What what I said?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Patience? I need patience. He ain't gonna give it to you.
He's gonna put you in a situation that required Hello.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Hello, are you talking talking now?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out now.
But you show lucky caught me in twenty four got out.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But now after I told your ass up, man, I said, Man,
I have I had a day to day with yo.
I got put out of uber and out of order
too nights at all. I try to get with a break.
Who's sandwich is some orange juice? And I got a
two nights day at the hotel. Hey, did they charge
you for canceling you too?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Nice day?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Cause I booked it for next week.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Then they need that cancelation fee. They need that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
They ain't getting no cancelation fee as many nice as
I stay here and Jordan I stay here.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Man, we sometimes we were staying here like four five
nights in the row.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, nah, but uh, I said, boy, I had me
a day today, I said, damn. Jalen Hurst had five turnovers,
no money and the last the last came in overtime
to lose the team's third straight game. Booze were also
heard during the team's Black Friday home lost to the Bear,
(25:00):
and it doesn't take long for discontent among football fans
to move to the calls to make a quarterback change.
A change in Philly would involve moving Tanner McKee or
Sam Howell into the starting lineup, but Nick Siriota made
it clear this morning that's not something.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
That entertained by the team. I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I know every time I go out on the field
with Jalen Hurts after our quarterback, we have a chance
to win the game. That's something that's been proven. We
won a lot a lot of football games. Oh Joe, Yeah,
that's a bunch. That's a bunch of you see how
they the change.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Turned on the man, see how they play games.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Things not going well? You gotta you got a quarterback
that's been to the Super Bowl twice. He's been twice
and he's won one. He just won last year. It
ain't even been six seven months even six seven months
since he won his last supt Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Now things aren't going well. You ready to jump ship?
You ready jump ship?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Ty?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Change it to another quarterback that is nowhere near and
talented and gifted. Is when you got right now and
think things are gonna change because you switch quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Come on, now, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
All I know is those same fans that was boy
called Cam crazy, called Camp everything but a child of God.
When said when Cam said what he said earlier this year,
You remember who Hoe how they jumped on it with
both feet.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, they they was on top of him. This
hell everything.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Ye'ah.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I know Philly fans, Hey, they don't play. Look, they
don't want to. They got a Super Bowl, then I
get it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Philly fast, their hardcore, they love their Eagles and blah blah,
I get all that.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Bro. Y'all been enjoy this, Yeah, y'all make it seemed
like y'all have just been winning forever. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You went to the Super y'all went to the Player,
You went to the Super Bowl eighty Wandra Warskin. You
got beat by the wild Card Raiders, and you went
again with Donovan and then you got beat by the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You went back with Nick Foles and you won. You
went back with j you loss, You go back again
and you win. But it's hard to win in this league.
See what has happened on you? You know what has happened.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The Patriots and the Chiefs got people thinking winning every year,
winning the division every year, going to the playoffs and
going to the super Bowl. That's that's easy.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Ain't easy at all.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They made it look easy. Now, yes, they did do
They made it look easy. So the thing is is
possible for everyone else to do it? No, coming off
a Super Bowl win, man, the chance that you're actually
repeating is extremely hard because.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You play the toughest schedule every year. You get division winners.
Every year.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You already play your division you get now you're gonna
play your division winners, and now you're gonna play another division.
So this year they played the AFC West, the Chargers,
the Broncos, the Raiders, and the Chiefs. Next year, who knows,
they might be the South, right, it might be the North.
You might have to played, you know, the Steelers. Well
(28:02):
that was that might have been. That might have been
two years ago they played the Steelers or something. But anyway,
you're gonna have to play another no, bro, I mean
for them to even suggest such foolishness, are you know?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That's how it started though. Now, yeah, it is coming
from somewhere. The call and the knock always come from
inside the house always.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, oh Joe, they better sit down and enjoy this. Yeah, okay, yeah,
the devil you know, is better than the one you don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Mm hm oh that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Hold on, you keep on. I mean, look, I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You see hey, you see Josh Allen, and you see
my home. You see Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
And oh, I that's what I want. I won't that.
I won't that. I want that.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Okay, Hey, you said what you said, the devil, the devil?
Speaker 6 (28:59):
You know what's better than the one you don't exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Hey, that's a good one. Now I'm gonna use that
in my next argument.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Why you get in the argument you'll be looking to argue.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, so I can use your quotes.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Whatelse man, Oh, don't be bringing in your foolishness. He can.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I get man. Look here me and cambody. We got
along great. We had a great old time. We were
talking laughing. But you know she was having a good time.
You're like, okay, how you doing? Yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
But I need to be able to hit up with
these quotes and the like I like. I like to
sound like Confucius. You know, at times like that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
You've been sounding like confusion. Why don't you just be right?
Why don't you just do the right thing? Why you
got a buck so much.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
But sometimes it's always good to go right, but sometimes
they like to go left.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Joey, you like to
be a looking batter man.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Now keep everything balanced, Joe, No o, Joe, don't you
like Pete?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I mean, hold on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I saw somebody say they've been a relationship for like
like ten years and they've really never had an art.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh with that.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
George Clooney, George Clooney's ain't been mad to him and
his wife have never had an argument out here. Taylor's
Taylor excuse me, Kelsey on this pond say him and
Taylor really never had no that's.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
What I won't.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Hey, don't you want that stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
They just be saying stuff. You know, the camera there
people gonna see it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And man, because sometimes you leave a dish in the
sing when you could have put it in a You
that't something on the floor when you could have put it.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Up in the basket.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, it's hard to not have no disagreement. That's that's
that's I mean zero, I'm talking about zero disagreement.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You know that ain't true, you know, and that no
disrespect to them, Like, come on, now, you ain't got They.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Got a lot of us.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I ain't got a lot of us.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Because y'all said it ain't possible. It ain't possible to
be in a relationship and not argue, not have a disagreement.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
A disagreement, okay, okay, okay, And most disagreements.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Turned, dude, lead to an argument.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, verbal altercation.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
It happened, not necessarily, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Because here's the thing, Joe, what happens. Let's just say
for this, this is how it happens. Okay, you are okay,
you're right. Oh you're right. Oh you just don't care.
You just said I right just to shut me up. No,
you're right, No, I ain't right. What have I been
right before? You normally you normally got something to say. Man,
I'm saying you're right.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
I was wrong. Oh now you wrong. You ain't been
wrong before, so now you wrong?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
You dead wrong?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I'm right. Oh now you're right because I said it.
See I knew you didn't mean it. See now what
could have just better fight disagreement? You're right, right, I
got lazy.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I put it in the sink when I could have
just put it in a dish. You right, baby, you're right.
Instead of instead of taking.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The trash out of trash can and put it in
the big bag and leave it on the floor, I
could have just, you know what, put it in, put
it in the big black big bag and take it
to the trash.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Can you right?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I'm lazy? You're right, I'm lazy. That is that is
not like hearing them to be lazy. Oh oh you
just said that. You don't mean it. I know you
don't need it.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I could have done that, but I was tired, ye see,
so what could have been something easy? And then I
just like, okay, you're right now, I ain't got no
fight in But then they all rob a fight?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
How did rob the fire? Right you? I used to
debate with the best of them.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
That's me. That's me.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
That's me.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Sometimes it ain't worth it, man to get you get
your water boiling like that. It ain't worth it for something,
I tell you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
You know, Joe, if you don't do it often, See
I don't do it often, Joe. I'm not combative. I
don't like conflict, Joe. But every so often, every bom moon,
it's almost like for a play in a sense. Huh,
you setting it up for later.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
You setting the you know the call, the play call.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel me. Yeah, your hopeing that
that's the fasket call on the two point play. That's
your best call. That's your best call for you. That's
your best call on your normally your best call.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
You got to.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You got give me your best fourth down play. You
got one, you got too, not the best one, Okay,
your best two point play. Yeah, that was the best
two point play. So you know other word you said,
I hope, oh you, I really hope you setting this up.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
You got some call. I really hope it's a ball burner, jo.
I hope he got something playing a.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, Joe, and it starts. This starts. You let it
marin it throughout the day. Let let it marin it
throughout the day. Start something, you know, Nah.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I don't start nothing, No, Joe.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Sometimes you gotta do it on purpose.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Je.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I'm talking even if the day going perfect. I'm talking
about y'all both having a good day out of nowhere.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, just yeah, Joe, just start something, Joe, like, just
pull a hair something. Make when of the tracks come out,
you know, she got she got trading.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
No, no, no, he got no trade. We got no
trade over here.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Okay, Okay, I'm bad.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Heydd oh, Joe DoD. I'm just me.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I just like, okay, you're right, just leave it alone.
I just I just want I don't I don't really like.
I mean because I used to debate for a living.
So if I don't want to debate, I don't want
to come home with debate.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yeah. I know, I know it's right. I just want.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Hey, I'll say, I said to you, right, let it go.
But if I say let it go, just let it go. Yeah,
women ain't gonna well, the women that I've dealt with
ain't gonna let it go.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
No, sometimes they can't let it go on. They try
to pull it that other side up out there and
then when it come out, yeah, ain't looking crazy? Yeah,
oh oh you like that.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I say let it go.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I said they let it go, just let it go.
I just let me watch TV. Now you come stand
in front of me and the TV.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Okay, I go downstairs. I go to the enterable room.
They coming right down there too, right down with you.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh that's your problem. You don't know how to communicate,
You don't know how to I said, but now it's
not a good time.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
I'll talk. I said, Look, let me calm down. We'll
have this discussion.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
I want to talk, right, I can't.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Hey, y'all got it a joe y'all and listen, when
you eat your food, right, Yeah, you gotta add seasoning.
You got to add some type of flavor. And listen, Look, argument,
a little debate. That ain't nothing but seasoning.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
That's all it is. You know, a little salt, little pepper.
You know, love paprika?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah? Too much?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Look, you know sometime you get chicken, add your little
lemon pepper to it, barbecue sauce to it.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
That's all it is.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Do you add a little faction after all that?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So you you you a sex after argument type of guy?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Me?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, I mean for the right price.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah price you are? You don't charge? Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
What Averberry reported that Kevin Stefanski likes likely wants out
of Cleveland. The one thing that would be really frustrating
for me if the coach in Cleveland you've been trying
to make decisions for football reasons and no one will
accept them. I can tell you just knowing the number
(36:52):
of people that I know worked there. That quarterback situation
was handled this year, over the last six seven months,
in a way that was based solely on how were
performing in practice. It makes the Fanski look bad now
because you're George played well, if you're Kevin and you're
making all these decisions based on football decision and you
made a lot of other decisions over the years that
(37:12):
were constantly second guess this way is constantly its circus. Well,
you'd be sick of it. Has this become you know,
this has to work out for either one of us
in the last couple of years. So maybe it's just time.
He's six and twenty four, two fifty win percentage over
the last two years, he's a two time coach of
(37:33):
the Year.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
O Joe, Yeah, what are you think it?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
I mean it's tough. I think Defanski is in a
tough spot.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Obviously, you're six and twenty four, having, you know, on
your resume being coach of the Year two times. I
think that that saved you and gives you a little
bit more grace. But obviously you know you can't operate
without a quarterback. You can't operate without a quarterback, So
understanding what we see from Shador so far and the
the stuff and the actions that occurred before he was
(38:03):
put in position to be the starter. Obviously, you always
want you want your best player out there playing quarterback
for you. That gives you your best chance to win.
And most of the time I said all the time, Uncle,
you said, all the time, players get coaches fired. Players
get coaches fired. So for a coach, you would always
want to be in a position to have players in
there that can do right by you, that can do right,
(38:23):
do right by you, not just you, but your team
team as well, and give yourself a chance and give
you some grace and longevity as a coach. So I'm
not sure why they're playing, why the games have been
played in general in Cleveland. It's been a damn circus. Uh,
there's been a goddamn circuit, Joe. So it just in
just some of the some of the play call.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
I don't want to get into all that. We've all
seen it. We've all heard it.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
You know something's right, and anyone that says it's not
right based on all the evidence that we've seen since
the draft up until this point, I mean, you just
turned the blind eye to the bulls shit?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What what if it is a situation O Joe with
Kevin Stefanski really wanted to place your door.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
And he was handcuffed. But hold on, do you think
that's that's what it sounds like to man?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I mean, if we're to believe what average bread is
being reported, how much how much say do we believe?
Speaker 6 (39:24):
How much say do we believe that.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Kevin stefanskn have over the final fIF the final fifty three?
How much say does he have in the draft? How
much say does he have in free agency? Does he
have say like say Mike Tomlin, like an Andy Reid,
like a Sean McVay, he has a Mike Rabel. Do
you think he has that kind of say?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Oh, Joe, I would think so.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Sean Payton, two time Coach of the Year would have
him say so, and and some of the personnel that
he brings in.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I would think so. And I told Joe. I told
on the other night.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Right with some of the things ever going on, I
felt like basically Kevin Stefanski was basically Nico Harris.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Yeah. I felt he was taking the fall.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
He's taking the fall for all for the upper management
above his pay grade. That no owner came out and said, listen,
this wasn't my pick. I didn't want you to do it.
So I think he's taking the blunt and all the
heat and and and his hands are tied. So I mean, uncle,
what you said. It might be a possibility. We had
no control over it, and maybe he did want him
(40:28):
to start the whole time. But you know there's a
pecking order, like we just.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Turned around.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Third round pick. Oh well, he's the third round pick
for a reason, so he's always going to be get
first DIBs no matter what.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And you're not.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You're not you're not normally taking quarterbacks a third and
because you're asking for trouble. The last time we saw
somebody take a quarterback because look, go back and look
at Washington. Mike didn't want to take a quarterback. Didn't
want to trade that pick. He felt they could sit
right there where they were and get the quarterback that
(41:05):
they wanted. He really liked cousins. He felt he could
get cousins where they got cousins and could be fine. Yeah,
you're in salary cap hell, because remember that was the
year that the uncapped year, and everybody dumped all their
money in that Dallas and Washington had to pay all
that salary cap money because they had dumped all that
in a non cap year, and the NFL said, now,
(41:25):
you couldn't do that.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
You're cheating.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So they take a quarterback at number two, and then
they turn right around and take cousins. How did you
think this was gonna work out?
Speaker 6 (41:36):
On Joe?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You take a quarterback in the third round, and then
you take another quarterback in the fifth round. How did
you think this is gonna work out?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I think maybe maybe maybe. Security. That's the only thing
I can think of. Security and asking for trouble understanding.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
That Joe Flacco was gonna only give only give you
so much time left at his age.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
You know, okay, we got yes, What are we sure?
Dylan Gabriel is the answer. You know what, We're not sure.
So we're gonna take another one while you take it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Who goes into the normally, that's not how you suppoke
That's not how you draft Joe. You don't draft the
guy and say, well he might not be it. If
you think he might not be it while you drafted
that good question. But I mean, I'm not going to
the store.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Who you buy the car? Man?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
This car might put me down. So but I'm gonna
go ahead buy it anyway. Yeah, go ahead, Joe, listen.
But but when we think about it, statistically, from training
camp to preseason, Shadur has had the best statistics from
what we've seen.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Yes, you know what I mean. So it's like to me,
it almost kind of feels like perfect time.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
Like you say, Gabriel went Dylan, Gabral went third, third round,
and Shadu went filth. It's kind of a pegging water.
I'm kind of picking back what Oo said. But I
think Shaduur has now took the rings and I don't
think he's gonna give it back.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
I think the young man is he knows what's at state.
He knows itbody's watching. And uh man, he just looked
like a guy with a lot of confidence and poise
out there. He looked great under center.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And you think about it, Oh, Joe, look at the
guys he was throwing to, All the guys that he
was throwing to with the rookies that came in with him.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yeah, so it's not an accident. Those are the most
of the guys that he was getting the reps with. Right.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's just hard for me to see a scenario. I mean, like,
like I said, some people say that didn't happen, but
I've never been on a team where the backup didn't
get something, didn't get at.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Least two reps period right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Always.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
I mean we had veterans.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
We had a veteran quarterback in Trent Dilferd who backed
up Tony Banks and he still got two reps period.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We had a veteran Randall Cunningham who backed up Elvis'
girl back and he still got two reps period A three.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yeah, I play with Yeah, Hey, what is that thousand
one Baltimore?
Speaker 5 (44:02):
It is Dupe.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
I ain't no random I was there? Yeah, I ain't
no random was there?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So so this notion that you wouldn't give a rookie
that had the potential to go in the game any
reps when veterans that have been starters, had been to
Pro Bowls was getting reps. It's just it was just
uncomfortable to me that people thought that was okay. That's
(44:36):
what I couldn't That's what I couldn't understand. Look, if
y'all don't understand.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
I'm like, man, I don't know what's going.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
On out here.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Look, we know.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Every coach, every general manager has they guy in the
media when they want to get certain things out.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Joe, Yeah, they know how to get it out.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm saying
I know that to be factual. So when I want
to get something out, I know who to get it to,
sources in the NFL. No, your source with the team
told you that the NFL. Your source with the team
told you that.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
I know how it works. I just like you to me.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I just like to to I just talk because I
don't like to get information. I don't because I be
I I be using it and they're gonna Yeah, the
person that I'm talking about go, No, I got that
from a very very reputable person.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
So I just letten. I just let stuff go. I
just like it.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Hey, from my from my personal experience and how stuff go.
But y'all best believe.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
But I mean he's a two time Coach of the Year. Oh, Joe, h,
I don't know. It looks the banker situation, how that
worked out that you do or how that's playing out.
Who knows, maybe maybe they maybe they want a high
draft pick. I don't know, Uh Mindoze, I believe Mendoza
(46:08):
is gonna win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday. Yeah, it's
just like and he ojo. He might turn around and
he might be who knows, great, historically great? Right, But
as I look at him and look at your door,
(46:29):
I mean, if your door had that kind of offensive
line protection when he was in college, are we are
we sure?
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
So, I don't know if the fansk you want out.
Maybe that's a situation where they probably want him out.
I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I mean, he
is a two time coach of the year. Ohoe, he
is fairly young. But we'll look, there's gonna be some openings.
What well, first of all, we already know there's gonna
(46:58):
be two openings in Tennessee and the Giants, and the
likelihood there might be more.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Who knows, it might be one in Las Vegas. Damn,
don't know. You and Pete just got there, huh yeah,
just be leaving too.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
But hey, the thing is and the NFL, if you
remember o Yo, a couple of years ago, they sent
that membo out man, y'all gotta stop hiring and firing,
because think about it. The John Gruden thing, he got
ap on the contract, he still got to pay that.
Now you got Pete. So you got three guys that
ain't coaching for you that you're paying. And then if
(47:38):
you bring another coach in, you gotta pay him.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
That's form and.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Staff, that's in patience and patience.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
So it's gonna be very interesting to see how this
thing plays out, o Jo. But at the end of
the day, you know what's in that division. Joe Burrow's
in that division. When he's healthy, he's under believable. The
thing is is that he does he's not healthy.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Lamar is in that division. I just Lamar is hurt
and he's missing throws and he's not like that. He's
not running like he once did, Ojoe, because I think
he's afraid he's gonna hurt that hamstring again and so
he he Look, Lamar is missing throws that Lamar hadn't
missed since his rookie year. So in order for you
(48:28):
to be in that division, your quarterback's gotta play well.
You got Aaron Rodgers. Now we don't know if he's
gonna come back, you know, be at forty two and
coming back. I don't know, uh, but you gotta you
got you gotta have a quarterback in that division, just
like the AFC, the AFC West, you gotta have a quarterback.
ALC South quarterback. You got Stroud, you got Lawrence, And
(48:51):
they had competent quarterback play and and and and ended
for a while until he got hurt. And now it
seemed like he's going to hell in the half basket.
They brought a granddad out of retirement. So it's gonna
it's gonna be very, very interested to see how this
thing plays out in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
They y'all think they're gonna sign Philip River. They already
signed it. Oh did it?
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
The question is he gonna start? That's the question. Ain't
the question if they're gonna sign, is he gonna start?
Speaker 6 (49:19):
I'm saying who else they got they can play in
front him? They got Riley Leonard, but he got a
banged up knee.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yeah, he's starting, He's starting. He started. Listen, hey, Joe.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
I mean there's a relationship and understanding of scheme and
tactics between Shane Stichen and Philip Rivers. So the system,
he's very familiar with it. And because he's so familiar
with the system, all it is now and is getting
as much timing and chemistry as you can, you know,
with the offense and with the players right now.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
But he's gonna start Sunday.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
I'm sorry out for what he does is he's giving
and hoping and giving that team a chance to keep
their head above water because they still have a chance
to make the playoffs and they're just trying to see this.
We're gonna kick We're gonna kick these tires and see
what Philip Rivers can do for us, you know, for
the rest of the season and see if we can
make a run, make a run at the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
And they got to in there.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
They gotta stay high because they gave their two first
round picks. Hey, they give them two first round picks,
and the further you fall down in the standing to
how those picks are.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
So guess what next year.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
If Daniel Jones doesn't come back healthy until because he
was dealing with a broken leg and now you've got
to tourn a key leave so he's got to heal
two injuries.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
Now you mess around it, Now you mess around. It
be like the NB of old.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, well, the Jet's gonna get a top five pick,
not have two top five picks because they gonna look
like they might be some slow because they're looking for
a quarterback too.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
You now you're right back at square one, Hey.
Speaker 8 (50:50):
Them injury is gonna take a while to heal. I mean,
you ain't gonna be the rest Dames Jones back with
them two injuries right.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
There, and that was the only reason. That was the
only reason they was playing with that broken I think
it was Timmy or the lower leg tip fibula fibula.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
That's the only reason playing o Jo and Jones because
they were in prime position to make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
That means the pick's gonna probably be way on down there,
twenty four, somewhere between twenty.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Four and thirty two. You can live with that.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
I ain't really trying to get no top ten no
you know, team pick, no no early team, no top
ten pick. I ain't really try to do that for you,
bro right, because they went all in. When you make
that trade for Sauce Gardener, you're basically saying I'm all in.
I'm jumping on this thing with both feet. Yeah, how
long song's gonna be out?
Speaker 6 (51:49):
He nicked. I mean they got a calf injury. I
ain't no telling.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And then plus Daniel Jones, it don't matter what Sau's doing.
You gotta have a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
Yeah. Hell, he can't throw the ball, and he.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
Might he might be forty four, but that's all you got.
That's okay, and even at forty.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Four, and it's hard for me to believe. It's hard
for me to believe that you couldn't go. You couldn't.
You couldn't scour thirty one other teams practice squad and said, hey, bro, this.
Speaker 6 (52:21):
Is an opportunity for you to start.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I mean they reached out to Sam Ellinger, who's on
the Broncos practice squad. He said, no, I'm good. He said,
all y'all gonna do is get me over there, and
then at the end of the season, y'all gonna cut me.
Let me stay right there where I am. I know
the system.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
I'm cool.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Yeah, and hold on, I got one for you better
thirty one other teams with thirty one other backups. How
many of those thirty one of the backups are better
than Philip Rivers even right now at forty four.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, we're gonna find out on Sunday, right, and so
I want you to wear your ass over your Sunday.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
All right, because you listen, you.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Know this, Your fidy senses, even in the off season,
from the time that you from the time your last
game until the time you come back, your fighting senses
have to heighten. They have to get back in alignment.
They don't tingle like they once did. Can you imagine,
O Joe, can you imagine, Let's just say for the
singer argument, Ojoe, you thirty, you don't play the game
(53:22):
for five years, and they say, you know what, Ojo,
come on back out and you come back out there
at thirty five, Boy.
Speaker 6 (53:28):
You're gonna be running through mans. Don't read. They're gonna
be tearing your ass up. You're gonna be. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I think if anything, he might be just be a
beat off. That's it. Yeah, gonna be.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
It ain't nothing changed, O Joy. It's not like he
was running. It's not like he was Michael Vick before
he left.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Absolutely, he was stationary. He had cement shoes on when
he was twenty five. Shit, man, he was gonna bend lead.
He's gonna be handing that thing on mm hmm. Y'all,
when you see what they did, is that because they
know Daniel Jones can't run like he was dead. They
stacked the line. They said, no, we're not gonna let
(54:08):
We're not gonna let y'all j T beaters, beaters throwing
the ball.
Speaker 6 (54:15):
They took that away from him.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
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