August 19, 2025 • 54 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the performances from the Browns and Giants quarterback rooms respectively and many more takeaways from Week 2 of the NFL preseason.
0:00 - Giants QB Room
8:15 - Dillon Gabriel sneak dissing Shedeur Sanders?
42:00 - Anthony Richardson QB1?!
54:07 - Cam Ward preseason take aways
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
You're gonna make Ojo crime.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Giants rookie first round draft pick Jackson Dart through two
preseason games Game one against the Bills twelve of nineteen,
one point fifty four, one touchdown, Today against the Jets
fourteen of sixteen, one thirty seven, one passing touchdown, one
rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if
Jackson Dark could take starting johb from Russell Wilson. Russell
(00:40):
russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson.
I do see a scenario Jackson Dark starts the season
as the number two quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, absolutely, and jamis the number three because I don't
think they're number before. The fact that they're keeping all
three of them is a really good thing because Jackson has.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You think they keep all four? You think they keep
all three of them? Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Do you think the Giants letting Jamis go? Absolutely not.
James is a good veteran, even if he's not on
the field. Good locker room presence, a good locker room president.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't fall Yeah, how much how much money of the
James have guaranteed?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Wait, get here, her iPad in her in her shoes,
your shoes. No, that's my charge of Papa. That's my charge.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Okay, yeah, I charge. You don't need two year, nine
million right to give me that kiss? Give me kiss.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You keep interrupting, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Say bye, say bye bye bye. I love you. I
love you too.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
All right, okay now now now now we can talk.
We can talk, you can talk, we can go. No
where interruption.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh Joe, damn? What happened? What what what happened? I'm
trying to like, I'll be looking at it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Russ is the starter, right, you're developing, developing, you're developing.
Jackson dark. Last week he started number three. This week
he starts number two.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I wouldn't look into that. You're looking look too much
into it. You're looking too much into it. I think
the ball they have their mind made up that they're
going to allow him to develop and allow him to
sit back. Michael Y when he played, he sat back.
I think rookies not being thrown to the wolves. Some
are good at it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I know Russ is the starter. I believe stars Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, no, no, no, I'm trying. I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the situation with Jamis.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, he's not going aware, he's not going aware. They're
gonna keep They're gonna keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dark would
more so obviously be developing, and he would be the
practice squad quarterback. I don't think they're throwing young bull
like that to the wolves like that as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, I'm not saying no, he's not Russ started.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Russ is gonna be the day one starter, right, But
if Russ is the day one starter and then you
have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep
the veteran.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As the third guy? Absolutely, That's what I'm That's what
I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Absolutely, because the third guy that you're keeping is more
valuable than just being on the guy then, excuse me,
than just being on the field. He adds more value
outside of just being on the field as the starting quarterback.
You don't you don't let a locker room presence like
that go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You just don't. They do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But there's only one Jameis Winston. No, I know, it's
only one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And they let him go in New Orleans when he's
more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when
he was more than that.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Because the salaries are exploding so much and you used
to be able to keep a veteran guy.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, because the numbers were low. The numbers were low,
they were favoral, they were yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I got you, I got you. You're right.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting. But
I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dark through the
first two weeks, justin fields. In the past, offense were
out of sync. Today, Feels completed his first throw, then
finished with five straight incompletions in two series fills, with
three win targeted wide out Gary Wilson, his old buddy
from Ohio State. The lack of a legit wide receiver
(05:13):
number two to compliment with Wilson is one of the
reasons why they're not clicking. I don't know why they
didn't go get another receiver.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
O Joe, Wait, who's the number two in New York?
Alan Lazari? Is he hurt chat. Who's the number two
in New York? Wait?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Matter of fact, you got Bryce Hall in.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Alba. What's Allen? That first name?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
God was Allen's first name? Maybe Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard, Josh Josh Josh you remember
Josh Renold just played with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He was in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay okay.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, I mean, I like it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But you know what, O Joe, when you that dog
and they gave you thirty million, damn, what's on the
other side?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, go get open? Yeah, they playing you thirty million
when you the number one? Right, you get no excuses?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They are no no row How would they pay you
that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, you're number one for a reason.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You're number one because two, three and four can't do
what you can do.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Right. I don't think that. I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't think was getting open the issue. It wasn't
the issue. It just the passes might well, I saw
two routes. He ran a stop route. Guy was right there.
I think he ran another route. The guy was, you know,
see pushed. That's why I don't liking damn joint practices.
Stuff like that. You don't see. You don't see that
all week. You know what's coming for Mason, recognition, knowing account,
(07:10):
knowing where I'm lining up, understand them a split, and
you know what's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So you're gonna sit there and cheap. I don't I
don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because Garl Wilson is a route runner. I don't know
paid attention attention to him. He's a route He's a
route runner. So I mean, I think they're gonna be
all right. It's a little too soon, the panic, you
know whatever. Justin Field is finally getting this turn. He
doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team.
(07:41):
This is your team. You have a head coach that's
going to do right by you. You got you gotta
make the most of this opportunity. And I mean it's preseason.
You want to get all your mistakes out right now,
so the game you say you don't want you can't
repeat these right. You got to fix it now because
(08:02):
he's in year what is this year four?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Justin Fields? Yeah? Two years three year a year four yeah? Yeah.
This is this is your make it This is your
make it or break a year two.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Mm hm, we got to get back to the Dylan Brooks.
Dylan Brooks. Dylan Gabriel eight of his first nine passes,
threw a pick six bad decision, but were later credited
with a fumble on the boxed handoff.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
After the game, he made some very very interesting comments.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
He said, they're entertainers and their competitors, and my job
is to compete. He tried to clarify later at the
press are saying he meant the media or the entertainers
and a competitor, and he's a competitor. But and he
wasn't taking a shot at the door. But the damage
was done. Everybody knows what he meant by that, because
you know why all I'm gonna let you take off.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You remember at.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oregon what the head coach said when they played Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, go ahead, don't
you go ahead?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But listen, I don't know, I don't chat, I don't
I don't want to do him like that. I'm want
to I want to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace,
a little little understanding, because I don't. I don't think
a college kid coming in as a rookie in the
NFL will take that kind of shot out a teammate
that he's competing with for a job.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I just don't see I don't see it. I see
it ass.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Is him when he says entertainers in the aspect where
he said it's the media. I'm not sure how you
use the media's as the entertainers, but the way the
media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus and all
he does is compete, I see.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I see it from that sense.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't see him as I'm not even sure if
he's that type of person, that type of type of
individual even had that kind of savvy to say something
like that publicly as brash Uh in that moment. So
I'm going to give him a little grace. I think
Dylan Gabriel actually played well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He played well.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know what, he had those those first few drive driving,
driving the team down the field. He made some really
good throws. He was poison in the pocket. He had
commanded the offense obviously the pick six for one. He
has to see that there are two people somebody ran
the wrong route, two people in the same place never happens.
There always has to be spacing on all concepts when
(10:18):
it comes to running routes. So as a quarterback, you
have to see that all right, there are two players
in the in the wrong place. Don't make a bad play,
even worse bite even throwing the ball, you should just
chuck that out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you're already outside the pocket anyway, new down.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So that that I think he's gonna be fine getting
those reps in. And it's all about making plays at
the quarterback position. But how consistent can you bleed? And
so when some sometimes there's a chance you can make
something out of nothing, and then sometimes you can. And
I thought I thought he played he played okay, you
play he played really well.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think he was taking the shot they should do
he you think so when if we ever thought about
the media, those beat riders as entertainers. We've heard his
coach he was on the team when he said they're
they're celeb Wait.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But you can't, you can't. You can't tie him and
his coach together as if they have the same mind
there as if they're one.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You name the time you've ever heard someone say there
are entertainers, and they are competitors, and I'm here to compete.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Tell me the time, right, Okay, listen, let's say if
let's say he's taking a shot at your door, right,
at what point has he been entertainer? He's a he's
a football player as well.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested
in doing it. What. Well, I'm just curious. Okay, tell
me what you're curious about.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, you said he's more interested in entertaining.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm saying that's what people have said about Shador, about entertaining,
about the antics.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Right right, Okay, I see, I see who you're going.
I see who you're going.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Plus we've heard this before.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
If sometimes it seeps, it seeps out when you've been
around people and they perceive other people as that. If
you're not careful, you will repeat what you've heard heard
someone say about someone.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, I see who you're going with it. Okay, okay, Okay,
he didn't have to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He didn't all these says. Look, I'm here to compete.
Whatever happens happened. It doesn't matter if I'm first team,
second team, third team, or fourth team. My job is
to compete. Why did he have to throw the entertainer
aspect then of it?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Right, everybody is entertainer. That's what football lives, entertainment. Everybody
is entertainers.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Right, Yeah, you're right, you're right. It's an entertainment, sports entertainment.
He might have been taking a shot at me. Shit, no, no,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He can't compete with you. He can't compete with you.
I disagree, Chad. I don't know what you guys think,
but I think I think he was trying to take
a solo shot. Because if he wasn't, why are you
trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clarify?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Because obviously once, once you say something like that, it
ruffles all the feathers and then it comes back.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Why you you're telling me? And the chat is nothing
like his choice of words.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
His choice of words, it run a feathers because that's
probably not what he actually meant. I honestly think it
was honest mistake because he's not let me stay with
me real quick, let me say some point, let me
say something real quick. He is not media savvy. With
the mic in front of him like a tom Brady.
He's not media savvy like a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He's not a quarterbacks of Oregon.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, No, he just not, because if he was, he
wouldn't have said what he said. There's a there's a
way you go about doing things, and he hasn't learned
it yet.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He's not savage like that yet.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Sometimes sometimes you get caught up in the moment you're playing. Well,
it's the middle of the game. Oh, Joe, you got
to realize now you're right there in that moment. Sometimes
when emotion is how, logic is low and you're feeling
good is a I A. They're entertainers and I'm a
com and competitors and I'm here to compete. Oh, he's like,
(13:49):
oh if he if it meant nothing by that, nobody
would have nobody would have said anything about it. Nobody
would have thought, would not even a thought, would not
even batter than that. But they took it. Most people
took it. I believe the way he intended it that
he's not he's not fancy, he's not entertaining, he's a competitor.
(14:11):
I don't know what he thinks you're doing there to do.
I believe to think they're not mutually exclusive. Floyd Floyd
Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor. Yeah,
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James. They're entertainers, but they're competitors.
Steph Curry. All that dancing and turning around, he's shooting
shot afore it goes in. That's entertainment, but he's a
(14:33):
damn fierce competitor.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes, yes, yes, So to try to.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Make those two things mutually exclusive, it's just not true.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I believe you can do both of them. But I
believe he took it me.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I apologize,
but I believe he took a such slow the shot
that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'm honestly you want, you want me to tell the truth,
and I expected then. Gabriel, I don't even think he
has the balls to be able to say something like
that out the blue.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's how that's how I know. I mean, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college.
If he was that type of player, if he showed
that kind of like if it was think about this,
Think about Johnny and Stale in college, right, yes, think
about Baker Mayfield in college right now, If it was
one of them that said something like that, I'd be like, yeah,
he's definitely taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That should do it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
But he's never shown any signs of being uh as.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
When have you ever been in competition? Huh?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't gonna
be Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition. When
did the When was the last time Dylan Gabor was
in a quarterback competition?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Mm?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Hmm, gollea simp you te coffee whatever that is? Yeahead,
scept that. So now now back to our originally scheduled programming.
When was the last time Dylan gaber was in a
quarterback competition?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Exactly? Yeah, you're right, because.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Think about it. How many yards has he passed for?
Do you know how many? You know how long you
got to be in college to pass for them? Of
yards that he's passed for? Justin Herbert has been in
the league how long? Because didn't he take up with
Justin Herbert in twenty twenty? So Dylan Gabriel has been
in the league, been he's been to starting quarterback since
what twenty one? No, he came from Oklahoma. Then Gabriel
(16:19):
come from Oklahoma. He transferred from Oklahoma. So he's been
he yeah, he was in there.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He was in them.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So if he transferred from Oklahoma, are you telling me
he ran from competition?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, he ran to the money. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay okay one two.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So he started at u UCF. Oh, he started at
UCF for three years. He was two years in Oklahoma
and then he spent one year at at at Oregon.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ah. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's okay. That's both Knicks. That was both Knicks. I apologize.
That was Bold Knicks. That was there when the coach
remember when they played c U ohoe. Yeah, and the
quarterback and he say.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He's what did he say?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Instagram? Some of them trying to get followers. They tried
to get clicks and followers and we're trying to win
football games.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That was the organ coach. I remember that was a
Mortgaan coach. But yeah, I apologized. That wasn't Dylan Gabriel.
That was Bow Knicks, that was his quarterback at the time.
When he said that ah.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
See, okay, okay, okay, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You got to but again for me, when was the
last time dealing Dalan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?
He was three years that he was three years that
you see, m he was two years at Oklahoma and
one year at what is so?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Six years? So in six years of college football? Six years? Yeah,
three years that you see up. Two years of Oklahoma,
one year at UH.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The only goddamn time ben them guys be gotten getting
seven and eight years old, Joe, you see the got
thirty two?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
What the COVID year? So he gave everybody extra year. Understandable,
But listen the chad. What the chad said? The chad, well,
who the chad believe he took a shot of No,
let me look in the chat. I ain't know. I
ain't open the phone.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Hold on, I'm curious to see what the chat with
the chat would think they are saying. The chat is saying,
I believe he's throwing shade. I thought football was a brotherhood.
(18:25):
I never seen him do that. I don't need it.
He lost his job, Oh he lost his job. Oh
you he got hurt of you? Oh shoot, well but
it looks like it's like a mix. It's a mix
on how everybody feels.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Go ahead, you want something, go ahead, were putting the
replacing the pole up. I just think the thing was
look and I think the thing is because don't yo
what it is is normally we don't get this. We
don't normal normally be interviewing, especially if you're playing during
the core of the game. Different get they get you
know half, you know, in the preseason game. If you're not,
(19:00):
they'll get you an get a few words. Yeah, it's excited.
You know, got some work in, knocked up, some of
the knocked some of the dust the rust off, and
now it's the time for the younger guys and other
guys to get an opportunity to show what they can do.
I'm sure the coaches are excited about that. Hopefully everybody
came out injury free. We'll see after the game, so
forth and song. But hell, everybody out there to compete.
(19:22):
I mean, you do realize like in pro sports it's
all about Hey, it's all about competition.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Ohoe, Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think you competing in your locker room or you're
competing against the other locker room. But you're always in competition.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hey, listen, every every week, yes, every day, every day.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I think he understands that. That's why I said, I'm
giving him grace. And obviously I think you've given him
too much credit. You've given him too much credit. For
those are the people that think it was actually taking it,
taking a shot at Shador. I think we've given him
too much credit to think it would come out and
do something like that publicly, or to even slip up.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Or even you know, I just don't. I just don't
think that's him. Oh. Eighty eight percent said it was
a shot. Twelve percent said was not. Oh shoot, well
maybe y'all, y'all, maybe y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
See it different, because I wouldn't paint it like that honestly,
you know. I mean, I mean, if you're gonna say something,
you know, if there if there's no address on it,
you don't have no destination. If there's no address on it,
it doesn't have a destination.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So I ask your question, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Throwing no Henson, doing no riddles the same you know,
doctor Seuss or Kat and the hat.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
If I'm come on, talk to me coming out.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
How many front office people you think said exactly what
Dylan Gabriel saying. He's more in the entertainment and doing
all this and all those antics than competing.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Okay, listen, I'm picking you. Listen, I'm picking up what
you're putting down. Now. Now, now you making Now you're
making a little sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
We put down I.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I don't like that, because I don't like that, because
that's a part of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right, It's always been a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Right, It's never been a part of the game at
that specific position, though correct position has frowned the pun.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They normally button up.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Always always, because when you pick that and you pay
him the kind of money you pay him, not only
you represent the shield, you represent the team in the
organization as well. You are the face of a franchise. Yes,
decade more so, I understand. And now okay, I'm with you.
Now I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You look at his dad. Yes, he was the ultimate entertainer. Yes,
but what's one of the most one of the fiercest competitors.
He believed that you know what, prime time, that's what
you paid to see. You paid me to see all
the antics that you know, hey, get it up. You
know he dancing before they put him or kick the
(21:56):
ball to him. He got the ball up behind, he
got his hand behind his head. I gotta entertain, y'all.
Ain't it ain't good enough for me to just get
a pick. It ain't good enough for no. No, no
no no no no no no no no. That's not enough.
You can get anybody can do that. I want to
be out going. I want to be braggadocious. I want
(22:17):
you to know and what I am.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Talk to me now, that sounds for That sounds for me,
don't it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The stats Week one, Shuduel was fourteen to twenty three,
one fifty seven, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Dylan Gabriel was thirteen of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
One four UH with uh total yards total yards okay,
one hundred and fifty seven total yards one forty four
for Gabriel. Uh. Shador had two touchdowns, no turnovers UH
and Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He
had a pick and a fumble. Look, I thought I
(22:52):
thought he played like you said. I thought he played
a good game with the exception of the turnover that
that bad interception beginning. But do you know the thing
I know that talk to me. The first thing I said,
I said, damn he tiny.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh yeah, he's small. He's small.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
He'd be like, oh my goodness, like maybe Baker height.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
No, hell no, he wish you man bad Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They list him at five or eleven.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Quarter like Brice young Man too, Rice young Yes, yeah,
be about the same. So obviously the Fansky and and
the way that they would run a completely different offense
if they had Dylan Gabriel starting as opposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You gotta roll him out because they're small. You need
to put him outside so he can see. He can
he can see clean pocket. Yes, you gotta roll the pocket.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You gotta roll the pocket or boom hal him in
the goddamn gun all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, well, one of one of the other.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But if Baker, if Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it,
obviously of the weaponry around him, I mean he should be.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He should be able to succeed as well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, a Baker man, I don't I don't think people
give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower
of the football. You don't win the high in trophy
like he did get that team to the college football playoffs,
and and and and and now now that he's in
a system and now he's with coaches that allows him
to be Baker. He's been to Pro Bowls, he's he's
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Baker is a better throw of the football than than
than than I think we give him credit for, or
we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in
a system and he's with coaches that believe in him
and will allow him to be himself. We'll see what. Look,
Dylan Gabriels did throw four ton of yards. I will
not take that away from him. Over sixteen thousand yards.
I mean, Elly played six years, so he's I mean, damn,
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I'm like you, Oh, you're like, damn six years?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
How old is he? If he played six years, he
got to be like twenty four already. I ain't know
that was possible.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now, oh yeah, no, they got he's twenty four. Oh, Joe,
I was. I was twenty one. I turned twenty two
after I got drafted.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So he already. I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hell Brice young age, he might be older than Bryce,
Yeah he might. He Bryce's young age. He's gotta be
Bryce Young's age.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Damn. And that's that's funny. That's that's funny.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Like i I'm I'm baffled.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Held on, let me let me see what you're baffled.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Are you baffled that he played six years and he's
twenty four, or you baffled that the chat believes along
with that, I believe that he was taking and she
was throwing shade or taking a shot at your door. Yeah,
all of the above or some of the above, all
of the above, because honestly, I think y'all, y'all get
y'all giving the mother fucker.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Don't get y'all giving somebody too much credit. You give
him too much credit, too much credit to say, I'm
gonna be brash enough to sit here and talk about
someone that is on my team and take a shot
not in it, and then no, that's that's giving him
too much credit, as if he's a masterminded in the
im media, savvy and knowing how.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
To that point. He didn't think about it. He didn't
think clearly enough. Sometimes, Joe, sometimes we have to be
careful of what we say around others because guess what
we get on here or we get on TV, and
then something that we're talking about in the barbershop or
we're talking about it'll come out. Because sometimes you forget
where you are?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just I think. Listen, young Young Bull played.
He played, he played well, play good, outside of the
interception for six and the fumble in which it wasn't
his fault on the fumble because the guy. I'm looking
at the replay, I'm trying to figure ou why the
running back and got the goddamn Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Be arm what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
He look at he looking straight ahead instead of you know, luck,
come on man, typing up man. But outside of that, listen, hey,
who they playing next week?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Who the Browns play? It's the last game? Man? Who
you telling you? Ain't got to tell me twice I heard,
I heard you before.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And they normally play on They're probably gonna play on Thursday, right,
they play Saturday, play Saturday against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Hey, man, listen, all hands on deck, h all hands
on deck. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I'm
not sure what they're gonna do. I'm excited. I'm excited
because I love I love a healthy competition. Oh yeah,
for sure, I love a healthy competition. I don't believe
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they're keeping all these quarterbacks. I don't know, Yoe, I
don't well, hey, listen, there I mean the Saints. Never mind,
I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna be rude.
I'm not gonna be rude. I'm not gonna be rude.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you. You played the game
a very long time. I played the game a very
long time. I can't remember a scenario where there were
four quarterbacks on the team. I can remember every scenario
that was all ways three, always three. So if there
was an odd man out to me thinking, yes, if
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there was, gonna be one, and that's simply maybe because
of the injury right now and not being able to
showcase it, not being able to showcase much, you know.
And there's no disrespect to Kenny. You know, you had
an opportunity at Pittsford. Obviously in Philly, there's no ye,
there's no way you're gonna start in front of Jamien Hurts.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But I mean, why would they why would they not
keep it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Baby, yeah, I agree. I think wait till the food
comes for your food, your chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, four quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
New England kept four quarterbacks in two thousand but it's
a different time now. Coach Belichick said he was worried
that if he released Tom, somebody was gonna sign it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yes, and that's exactly what would have happen.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You got to say, and you would have to sign
him to the actor, they would de sign him to
the active roster. So he didn't want to run that risk,
so they stash four quarterbacks. M But I agree with you,
and and and and and this situation, the way it's
currently constructed, I don't see a scenario where you keep
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four active quarterbacks. Now, you might have two quarterbacks and
one of the practice squad guys, and then you, let's say,
for the sake of argument, somebody get nicked.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You might bring him up, you might elevate him.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But to have four active quarterbacks, and that means you're
gonna probably have to go without a wide receiver or
a swing offensive lineman or rotational defensive lineman or cornerback
and one of those. And those guys are guys that
can play special teams. Those are the guys that can
play the punt punt return, kick kick return. Your quarterback's
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not doing that. And so basically, if you keep that
many positions, he can only he's only playing one position,
where the other guys that I mentioned the other positions
can play two position. So because normally your guy that
can play the guard, he can play the tackle if
need be, he can play the d tackle, He can
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play the d n but he can also be on
field goal, field goal block, things of that nature, wide receipt.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hold on, we're talking about. We don't know who they're
gonna take it. Hell, let's play goddamn Devil's advocate. Then
let's play Devil's advocate. Has them already said what he
got to say? Andrew Barry knows that he's a genius
in being able to get in the fifth round. Yeah,
you Stefanski, who you want? Whoever has them, won't.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Damn you for real? Yeah? Waits as as as your
question as a head.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Coach, as a head coach, you're going to choose just
because of whatever personal vendettas and may have to say
some of the things he said, you're gonna put your
job on a lie for somebody you know isn't better
than the person that he doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
If that man said, let me ask you a question,
when you got your did you ever get did you
ever get a physical copy or your check or was
your money always directed positive?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Director positive? But I got the uh I went upstairs
and noise got.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll tell you what when you went to OTA's and
you got those with those depositive because last I checked
when I got my check, and always say the Denver
Broncos football Club, right, and and that thing to the
left it said Pat D.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Bowler.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Okay, that thing said the Cleveland Browns Football Club, right,
Jimmy probably Jimmy and d Hasler.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Now you want to ask me that again? Which one
do I want? I got you? Okay, I got you,
I got you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
The fact that I sat here and forgot the person
that said what he said and the position of power
that they were in.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
My bad. You're right?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah yeah, but again maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know. Can I ask you a question? Yeah? My
lack of knowledge and normous it hasn't like that. How
long has he been.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He brought it from the learners? I think he brought
it from He's been there probably what fifteen years. I
think he's on the Browns for about fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He's only for a minute, okay, so he's been there
fifteen years. At least as a fair minimum. Fifteen years later,
they're still looking for what QB. Okay, but we're supposed
to take it. Okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Thirteen years right, so he've been there since twenty twelve,
okay from the Learner family, right, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
We're supposed to take his work.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay. Well, oh, Joe, I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
In the limited Snakets series, a series of unfortunate events happened.
You know, they thought they had their quarterback. I went
to the movie with Jim Carre my poo. My daughter
she's ready. She read the whole series. That's what she
got for Christmas. One year. They thought they had their quarterback.
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But it was a series of unfortunate events that you know,
shoulder a key, leads and things of that nature. But
it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback. It actually,
it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It is, it is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I think, you know what, can I say something real quick?
But can I say something real quick? I'm gonna give
you the three hardest things in life to do. Chat,
y'all write this down to chat. I'm gonna give y'all
two seconds to grab a pin. The three hardest things
they like to do.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Is an NFL team find a quarterback that can be
a franchise quarterback for ten years or more.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Okay, that's one.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Number two, trying to hit a baseball coming at you
ninety five miles an hour on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's two. Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Three try keeping a woman happy long term outside of
the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I knew you last them.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The three hardest things to do in life. Now you
got some. You got some. Some couples you know they
be fifteen or we've been doing this fifteen seventeen years. Yeah, yeah,
pretending you ain't fooling me. You smile behind closed doors.
You're all going, I can't stand you. Don't get me started.
While I sat next to a married couple to day,
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they've been married thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I was nosy. I bean to ask him how y'all
been together? That loan. I had to be nosy.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I say, well, out of the thirty two years you've
been married, how many of those years have y'all been happy? Oh?
You wonder know how many years of those? How many
those years she's been happy? Or they've been happy?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Together. How many the first three.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't think any couple can say they've been happy,
they're days. If a couple tell you they've been married
ten years, fifteen years, twenty years, that they've been happy
all the year, No, they're days. Now, there are more
days that I'm happy than i'm sad or disappointed.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, See, they got in depth.
I just don't have that kind of time because I
don't want to switch topic to be on football. I
was just using that analogy, just bringing in context to it.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yes, a couple and he said, the husband.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Said to me and the wife they were in agreeance
and I was enjoying. It was like I was at
therapist and I said, they said, the honeymoon phase lasted
for three years in the marriage, and after that we
have just been.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I forgot the words of you. She is the word
when you just gosh. I forgot words of you. Working, coavitating, cohabit,
that's the word. We're just co habitating.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And I don't want to start over, and I refuse
to deal with anyone else, so we and it's lasted
thirty two I'm like, God, what, God damn well, congradulately
see y'all.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But could I tell you what I got from that? What?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't care because I'm getting married anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I think the thing is O yoe. And you see
this a lot. I mean you see a lot of
couples do this. The kids get out, the kids get
out of high school, the kids graduate college.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
What they do they split? They go to separate ways.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh because sometimes because sometimes they look at it like, well,
we ain't really got anything else to be together for
now the kids grown.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
You think people stay together. You think people stay together?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely, absolutely, yes, yes, yeah, what uh huh?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Hey, you're not talking not our people.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're talking about the other side. People even stay together,
People stay together for kids. Yeah. Hey, sometimes sometimes it's eat.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Sometimes it's easier to stay together because you know, you
can pull your money together. It's going to be much
harder apart. You see this a lot in in in
the professional settings.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
What what women will tolerate in a professional setting when
the money is good?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, hey, listen, come on, the the longer
the money. No, no, no, wait hey baby, you're doing hold on,
I'm plugging up for you.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Hold on, she don't unplugged.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
My term of lights off, the longer, the longer the money,
the longer the leash. It's always been that way, and
if and if and if you depending on how serious
it is, the longer, the longer you with you, and
if you happen to marry him, and then they're oh, no, no,
you're good. And what you're crying for, Oh my goodness, No,
you're good, you're good. I'm gonna plug it up. The
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longer you with them and they ready to leave, as
long as they're taking something with them, they're taking something
with them. They're not leaving without it, not without that lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's the game of the game.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It's always been the game. You got to learn how
to play it, man, that's all come.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
On the charges.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
So on Door Week one, fourteen to twenty three, he
had one hundred and fifty seven total yards, two touchdowns,
zero interceptions, Dylan Gabriel reak two thirteen of eighteen, won
forty four total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns to
turnover the pick six yeah, fumble that was credited to him.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So and after the game, Stefanski was.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Like, he refused to like, you know, I'm not doing
this evaluation. Well, who played there? So who did better
than that? We'll go back, we'll look at the film
and we'll do our proper evaluation and we'll you know,
it'll be interesting to see chap when they hit the
field on Monday or Tuesday, when they back at the
regular practice.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What is the scott what.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Is the the sequenz one, two, three, four?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Who?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What's the slot where they slotted where the quarterback slotted.
H Maybe that tells us something. Maybe that tells us nothing.
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Who starts week three?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
How much playing time do they get? Does he get
in week three?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Uh? It would be It's gonna be very very interesting
to see.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
There that their evail their evaluation from week one to
week two. I'm sure there are some things both guys
did extremely really well. Uh, some things they would like
to have back. I'm sure the coaches will, you know,
give them a rundown of what they would like they
have seen them do, what they'd like to see them
do better. Uh. But overall, I think both guys played
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extremely well and should feel proud of the performance that
they gave.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what happens.
I wouldn't want to be. I wouldn't want to be
Brown's personnel. I wouldn't want to be Sefanski because listen,
depending on who they pick and who they choose, the
backlash that they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Get, it's gonna be crazy, right, It's gonna it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm not sure has any control over the final fifty three.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Well, honestly, if he doesn't, how is the head coach
not gonna have control over who is gonna put out
there on the field.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And he's the one got a coach something easy?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
You think you think you think Brian Shott and him
had control over the final fifty three in Dallas?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You think McCarthy got That's a different circus. That's a
different circus I think you.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I think are we trying to win? Are we trying
to win? It's a difference.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You have to like come in with you have to
be Andy Reid to get that. Uhh right, Tomlin, you
you've got to put some years unless you're like.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Highly salt after right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Uh Sean McVay, Yes, Kyle shanahan, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're naming all the coaches. They're allowed to pick the
players they want because they're successful. Do you know why
they're successful because of the players that they have.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
They're successful because ownership let them let stay out of
their business.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay, I got you. Okay, So Google, that's a food.
That's your food. Jim Harbaugh, Right, Oh yeah, he's another one.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They're consistent winners no matter where to go.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He came so sought after, so you have to give
up something besides money in order to tice him to
leave the University of Michigan. Ben Johnson cames highly touted.
He's offensive coordinated for the Lions the Bears. You got
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to give him something to get him to leave besides money.
And so it's gonna be very, very interesting to see
how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns. O
JO Anthony Richardson Senior saw his most extensive preseason action
you had after sustaining a dislocated finger in Week one
against the Ravens. Richardson completed six of eleven passes for
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seventy three yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties.
He started five or six for sixty four yards, leading
a ninety yard touchdown drive with Chris Passes. Offensive penalty
derailed the next two possessions and the including the gating
of thirty eight yard completion. Daniel Jones started the game,
started the game and led the field go drive, completing
seven of eleven four hundred and one yards. Coat's head
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coach Shane Stichen strongly suggested after the game that the
decision is imminent and the the team's month long quarterback battle.
I've seen obviously three weeks of it, so I like
to have a decision here shortly. I'm very close. I'll
say that I'm very very close. O Jo, who's week
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one started.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I mean, honestly, the way it's looking, you know it's
Daniel Jones. It's Daniel Jones. I think even if even
if Anthony Richards's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's
what they wanted to go with all along. Anyway, I
think there have been issues there with him the first
two years. Obviously they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially
with year three always being the make or break year. Yes, improvement,
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I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach
is talking, I don't like it. Then you signed Daniel
Jones one year, fourteen million that much one year. They definitely,
they definitely were going in the other direction regards what
Anthony Richard would have done in camp or what he
was done in the game, Like, how much better are
you going to be from the first two years coming
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into the third.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, I agree with Oh, there's only so much there's
only so much work.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I mean, it's not going to be a miracle. You
look a certain way year one, you look a certain
way year two, and then all of a sudden year three,
you're gonna come back and just be oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, but that's what they were expecting.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
They were expected, they respect, they were expecting a monumental
jumps because oh, Cho, you in your third year in
the system.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right, Okay, Okay, understandable.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
And he got hit in the face with a bliss
that he should have got hit in the place with as.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
A rookie, not as a third event. Okay, right. And
so look like I said, oh yo, we're not there, Chad.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
If I was there, if I was there and observing practice,
I'd be able to tell you who I think should
be the starting quarterback. But unfortunately, all the thing I
could do is based on what we've seen thus far.
And look, and I don't think it's like it's a
situation where like, oh, this is oh, this is e Stone.
I don't think it's one of those situations, but I
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think it's a situation where you know, like you said,
at some point in time, you're gonna have to give
one of these guys the majority of the reps, so shoe,
you can't keep splitting fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, you already know where they're going. You know the
game they planed. You knew the game they were playing
when they brought Daniel Jones in for that, for that
amount of money, for that amount of money on a
one year deal. Yeah, I already knew the game they
were playing.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
What baby, Well, Papa, okay, okay, I'm gonna call Papa
for you.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So you got Daniel Jones. It's been interested chat y'all
think it's gonna be Daniel Jones. Do y'all think it's
gonna be uh, Anthony Richardson Senior. It's not like either
one of the guys just blowing your way.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean, were you you up you're upstairs? Yeah? Yeah,
she's uh, she's all right.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm gonna just come come to fourteen seventeen, fourteen, fourteen seventeen,
all right to see. All right, Papa coming to get
you because you're not letting daddy work. Daddy working.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
You were good to see Daddy that much to begin with,
So I don't care about you working now, that's what
I think about you working?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Who did? H oh? Herry is coming? Okay? They played
the They played the Packers today. Hey are you able
to watch all the games? No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Hey they need they need to they need to put
the games on one channel.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Well, first of all, first of all with you, you
know the preseason, so basically you're going to get only
the only you'll be able to watch the local game, right,
uh so, but I guess you know they got it.
They're gonna have it fixed where you'll be able to
uh once you play, pay all that money. It's gonna
cost you by two thousand dollars to watch all the
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games that much. Yeah, you got to get every streaming service.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
M m my everything is not everything is on one
service now.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Right on? My I thought that was a whole joint.
You tripping. Oh man, I'm excited, bro. So Daniel Daniel
Jones started the game, huh, or or at the Richardson
started the game.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I think Daniel Jones did start.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
A seven of eleven for one hundred and one yards,
and then richards was six of eleven for seventy three yards.
I think that's Riley Leonard seven or twelve sixty four
yards that Jones started, he started, okay, he started game
two after Richardson started game one.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Okay, okay, So they went back and forth to make
sure each person got theF and.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
He says, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
I think he says, I've seen obviously three weeks of it,
so I like to have a decision here shortly, and
I'm very close. I'll say that I'm very close. I
think he's seen enough.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Damn, I think.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
He's I think he has his mind made up that
who he who he wants to start.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I'm leaning towards you. Why bring a guy?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Why bring a guy in to make fourteen million dollars
and it happened to be the backup?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
It's not like that Jones had his pick of choice
of where you go. I mean, not for that kind
of money.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
No, absolutely not, but that that lets you know how
entre need of a quarterback that the Coats were.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yes, you saw what you saw, you saw what you saw.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
In New York and say, you know what, we're gonna
bring you in to compete because we don't think our
quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet.
But hell, you didn't figure it out when you were
in New York. But we think you're gonna come here
and all of a sudden something supposed to change. So
two wrongs don't.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Make it right.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Two folds I think they really want because they bring
a quarterback in for a million. Let's just say, for
the sake of argument with YO, they bring a back
up in and they're gonna pay him four million dollars.
You're not gonna take that serious man, that ain't going
on no bench for no guy making fourteen For four million.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
You bring a guy in making fourteen. Fourteen, Now you
know they serious.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Fourteen ain't sitting on no bench. I can tell you
that fourteen is not sitting over. They talking about quarterback controversy,
They talking about quarterback battle.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
There is no quarterback battle.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
If the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind
of money on a one year.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Deal, he probably making more than after Richardson this year.
What's after richardson bay salary this year?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
He's only in this third year, hunk, it's not that much.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, because he got a bull His contract is fully guaranteed.
But he got probably the most of his money and
the signing bonus. So he probably got twenty five million
dollars in the signing bonus. So Joe so Afthon Richardson
probably making what eight million dollars this year?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Right? Four million?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
He making three point eight So one guy making three
point eight million, the other guy making fourteen million. Do
you think they're gonna put the guy that's that's making fourteen.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Million on the bench. No? You know what?
Speaker 3 (50:50):
You know what I don't like, though, hold on is.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
His money guaranteed that they guarantee his money? No, Jones?
Yo know, Afthur Richardson got thirty four million guaranteed. Here
his money guaranteed. He gonna get. He got twenty two
million of signs, so he's gonna get that final twelve.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
You know what, I'm mad because Anthony Anthony Richardson, it's
supposed to be like Josh let me let me, let me,
let me get this out, go ahead. Anthony richard is
supposed to be like Josh Allen. Anthony Richardson is supposed
to be like a new version of Cam Newton. Yes,
(51:28):
like that's the kind of potential and and and like
I don't I don't know at what point what went
wrong or what's happened if he's not focused, if he's
not locked in after this year, after this year, Anthony
Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for
when those two hundred and fifty three hundred million dollars deals. Yes,
(51:51):
that is what I saw in him coming out of Florida,
based on the eye test and what I'm looking at
all the intangibles. Does everything right, except you.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
See that on the piece. I was shocked. I was
shocked that he moved up the draft boards.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I like, but see Ojo, go back and watch the tape, right,
you see, you see what happened. Now you see how
some people watch tape right, and then somebody go by
the combine. If you look at his car, if you
didn't know anything about it, and all you did was
watch the combine, you understand.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Now, go back and watch his tape in Florida. Hey, well, yeah,
you did tell me that. You didn't call me that.
Go back? What go back, go back and watch his tape.
You didn't tell me that. But if it was measurable.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
It was so hard to pass up the O Joe
six four two forty five running four four can drow
the ball eighty yards?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Which is what which is what I said, with the measure,
we could take the measurables right the reason that they
went up to go grabbing the draft. And if the
measurables put up with the play on the field, after
this year three season, they comeing to see you. You
finh tell the house down. I agree, you fin it,
(53:15):
tell the house down.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
That's how That's how I'm visualizing it, and I can't
I can't believe. I don't know at what point and
if if you don't get it here, if you get
beat out by brother Daniel Jones, then a day, a
day like that like in what I'm visualizing, if I
was Anthony Richardson, is not happening.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
We yeah, yeah, they would never They're not bringing Daniel
Jones in because I'm gonna do it. You do everything,
you do what you're supposed to do. You're not the
you're not the last in in the first out.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
So that's it. That's it. That's in't a bad message there,
O Jo, Yeah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
You think maybe it's focused to somewhere else and not
just don't start belying.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
I don't know enough about it. I don't know enough
about it.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
I don't like I like young Boy, man, I like
Young Bull. I hope things work out for him over there, man,
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
You're gonna make Ojo crime.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Giants rookie first round draft pick Jackson Dart through two
preseason games Game one against the Bills twelve of nineteen,
one point fifty four, one touchdown, Today against the Jets
fourteen of sixteen, one thirty seven, one passing touchdown, one
rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if
Jackson Dark could take starting johb from Russell Wilson. Russell
(00:40):
russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson.
I do see a scenario Jackson Dark starts the season
as the number two quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, absolutely, and jamis the number three because I don't
think they're number before. The fact that they're keeping all
three of them is a really good thing because Jackson has.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You think they keep all four? You think they keep
all three of them? Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Do you think the Giants letting Jamis go? Absolutely not.
James is a good veteran, even if he's not on
the field. Good locker room presence, a good locker room president.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't fall Yeah, how much how much money of the
James have guaranteed?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Wait, get here, her iPad in her in her shoes,
your shoes. No, that's my charge of Papa. That's my charge.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Okay, yeah, I charge. You don't need two year, nine
million right to give me that kiss? Give me kiss.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You keep interrupting, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Say bye, say bye bye bye. I love you. I
love you too.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
All right, okay now now now now we can talk.
We can talk, you can talk, we can go. No
where interruption.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh Joe, damn? What happened? What what what happened? I'm
trying to like, I'll be looking at it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Russ is the starter, right, you're developing, developing, you're developing.
Jackson dark. Last week he started number three. This week
he starts number two.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I wouldn't look into that. You're looking look too much
into it. You're looking too much into it. I think
the ball they have their mind made up that they're
going to allow him to develop and allow him to
sit back. Michael Y when he played, he sat back.
I think rookies not being thrown to the wolves. Some
are good at it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I know Russ is the starter. I believe stars Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, no, no, no, I'm trying. I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the situation with Jamis.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, he's not going aware, he's not going aware. They're
gonna keep They're gonna keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dark would
more so obviously be developing, and he would be the
practice squad quarterback. I don't think they're throwing young bull
like that to the wolves like that as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, I'm not saying no, he's not Russ started.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Russ is gonna be the day one starter, right, But
if Russ is the day one starter and then you
have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep
the veteran.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As the third guy? Absolutely, That's what I'm That's what
I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Absolutely, because the third guy that you're keeping is more
valuable than just being on the guy then, excuse me,
than just being on the field. He adds more value
outside of just being on the field as the starting quarterback.
You don't you don't let a locker room presence like
that go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You just don't. They do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But there's only one Jameis Winston. No, I know, it's
only one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And they let him go in New Orleans when he's
more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when
he was more than that.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Because the salaries are exploding so much and you used
to be able to keep a veteran guy.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, because the numbers were low. The numbers were low,
they were favoral, they were yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I got you, I got you. You're right.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting. But
I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dark through the
first two weeks, justin fields. In the past, offense were
out of sync. Today, Feels completed his first throw, then
finished with five straight incompletions in two series fills, with
three win targeted wide out Gary Wilson, his old buddy
from Ohio State. The lack of a legit wide receiver
(05:13):
number two to compliment with Wilson is one of the
reasons why they're not clicking. I don't know why they
didn't go get another receiver.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
O Joe, Wait, who's the number two in New York?
Alan Lazari? Is he hurt chat. Who's the number two
in New York? Wait?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Matter of fact, you got Bryce Hall in.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Alba. What's Allen? That first name?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
God was Allen's first name? Maybe Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard, Josh Josh Josh you remember
Josh Renold just played with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He was in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay okay.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, I mean, I like it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But you know what, O Joe, when you that dog
and they gave you thirty million, damn, what's on the
other side?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, go get open? Yeah, they playing you thirty million
when you the number one? Right, you get no excuses?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They are no no row How would they pay you
that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, you're number one for a reason.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You're number one because two, three and four can't do
what you can do.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Right. I don't think that. I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't think was getting open the issue. It wasn't
the issue. It just the passes might well, I saw
two routes. He ran a stop route. Guy was right there.
I think he ran another route. The guy was, you know,
see pushed. That's why I don't liking damn joint practices.
Stuff like that. You don't see. You don't see that
all week. You know what's coming for Mason, recognition, knowing account,
(07:10):
knowing where I'm lining up, understand them a split, and
you know what's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So you're gonna sit there and cheap. I don't I
don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because Garl Wilson is a route runner. I don't know
paid attention attention to him. He's a route He's a
route runner. So I mean, I think they're gonna be
all right. It's a little too soon, the panic, you
know whatever. Justin Field is finally getting this turn. He
doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team.
(07:41):
This is your team. You have a head coach that's
going to do right by you. You got you gotta
make the most of this opportunity. And I mean it's preseason.
You want to get all your mistakes out right now,
so the game you say you don't want you can't
repeat these right. You got to fix it now because
(08:02):
he's in year what is this year four?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Justin Fields? Yeah? Two years three year a year four yeah? Yeah.
This is this is your make it This is your
make it or break a year two.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Mm hm, we got to get back to the Dylan Brooks.
Dylan Brooks. Dylan Gabriel eight of his first nine passes,
threw a pick six bad decision, but were later credited
with a fumble on the boxed handoff.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
After the game, he made some very very interesting comments.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
He said, they're entertainers and their competitors, and my job
is to compete. He tried to clarify later at the
press are saying he meant the media or the entertainers
and a competitor, and he's a competitor. But and he
wasn't taking a shot at the door. But the damage
was done. Everybody knows what he meant by that, because
you know why all I'm gonna let you take off.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You remember at.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oregon what the head coach said when they played Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, go ahead, don't
you go ahead?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But listen, I don't know, I don't chat, I don't
I don't want to do him like that. I'm want
to I want to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace,
a little little understanding, because I don't. I don't think
a college kid coming in as a rookie in the
NFL will take that kind of shot out a teammate
that he's competing with for a job.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I just don't see I don't see it. I see
it ass.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Is him when he says entertainers in the aspect where
he said it's the media. I'm not sure how you
use the media's as the entertainers, but the way the
media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus and all
he does is compete, I see.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I see it from that sense.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't see him as I'm not even sure if
he's that type of person, that type of type of
individual even had that kind of savvy to say something
like that publicly as brash Uh in that moment. So
I'm going to give him a little grace. I think
Dylan Gabriel actually played well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He played well.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know what, he had those those first few drive driving,
driving the team down the field. He made some really
good throws. He was poison in the pocket. He had
commanded the offense obviously the pick six for one. He
has to see that there are two people somebody ran
the wrong route, two people in the same place never happens.
There always has to be spacing on all concepts when
(10:18):
it comes to running routes. So as a quarterback, you
have to see that all right, there are two players
in the in the wrong place. Don't make a bad play,
even worse bite even throwing the ball, you should just
chuck that out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you're already outside the pocket anyway, new down.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So that that I think he's gonna be fine getting
those reps in. And it's all about making plays at
the quarterback position. But how consistent can you bleed? And
so when some sometimes there's a chance you can make
something out of nothing, and then sometimes you can. And
I thought I thought he played he played okay, you
play he played really well.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think he was taking the shot they should do
he you think so when if we ever thought about
the media, those beat riders as entertainers. We've heard his
coach he was on the team when he said they're
they're celeb Wait.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But you can't, you can't. You can't tie him and
his coach together as if they have the same mind
there as if they're one.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You name the time you've ever heard someone say there
are entertainers, and they are competitors, and I'm here to compete.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Tell me the time, right, Okay, listen, let's say if
let's say he's taking a shot at your door, right,
at what point has he been entertainer? He's a he's
a football player as well.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested
in doing it. What. Well, I'm just curious. Okay, tell
me what you're curious about.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, you said he's more interested in entertaining.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm saying that's what people have said about Shador, about entertaining,
about the antics.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Right right, Okay, I see, I see who you're going.
I see who you're going.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Plus we've heard this before.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
If sometimes it seeps, it seeps out when you've been
around people and they perceive other people as that. If
you're not careful, you will repeat what you've heard heard
someone say about someone.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, I see who you're going with it. Okay, okay, Okay,
he didn't have to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He didn't all these says. Look, I'm here to compete.
Whatever happens happened. It doesn't matter if I'm first team,
second team, third team, or fourth team. My job is
to compete. Why did he have to throw the entertainer
aspect then of it?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Right, everybody is entertainer. That's what football lives, entertainment. Everybody
is entertainers.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Right, Yeah, you're right, you're right. It's an entertainment, sports entertainment.
He might have been taking a shot at me. Shit, no, no,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He can't compete with you. He can't compete with you.
I disagree, Chad. I don't know what you guys think,
but I think I think he was trying to take
a solo shot. Because if he wasn't, why are you
trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clarify?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Because obviously once, once you say something like that, it
ruffles all the feathers and then it comes back.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Why you you're telling me? And the chat is nothing
like his choice of words.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
His choice of words, it run a feathers because that's
probably not what he actually meant. I honestly think it
was honest mistake because he's not let me stay with
me real quick, let me say some point, let me
say something real quick. He is not media savvy. With
the mic in front of him like a tom Brady.
He's not media savvy like a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He's not a quarterbacks of Oregon.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, No, he just not, because if he was, he
wouldn't have said what he said. There's a there's a
way you go about doing things, and he hasn't learned
it yet.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He's not savage like that yet.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Sometimes sometimes you get caught up in the moment you're playing. Well,
it's the middle of the game. Oh, Joe, you got
to realize now you're right there in that moment. Sometimes
when emotion is how, logic is low and you're feeling
good is a I A. They're entertainers and I'm a
com and competitors and I'm here to compete. Oh, he's like,
(13:49):
oh if he if it meant nothing by that, nobody
would have nobody would have said anything about it. Nobody
would have thought, would not even a thought, would not
even batter than that. But they took it. Most people
took it. I believe the way he intended it that
he's not he's not fancy, he's not entertaining, he's a competitor.
(14:11):
I don't know what he thinks you're doing there to do.
I believe to think they're not mutually exclusive. Floyd Floyd
Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor. Yeah,
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James. They're entertainers, but they're competitors.
Steph Curry. All that dancing and turning around, he's shooting
shot afore it goes in. That's entertainment, but he's a
(14:33):
damn fierce competitor.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes, yes, yes, So to try to.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Make those two things mutually exclusive, it's just not true.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I believe you can do both of them. But I
believe he took it me.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I apologize,
but I believe he took a such slow the shot
that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'm honestly you want, you want me to tell the truth,
and I expected then. Gabriel, I don't even think he
has the balls to be able to say something like
that out the blue.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's how that's how I know. I mean, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college.
If he was that type of player, if he showed
that kind of like if it was think about this,
Think about Johnny and Stale in college, right, yes, think
about Baker Mayfield in college right now, If it was
one of them that said something like that, I'd be like, yeah,
he's definitely taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That should do it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
But he's never shown any signs of being uh as.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
When have you ever been in competition? Huh?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't gonna
be Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition. When
did the When was the last time Dylan Gabor was
in a quarterback competition?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Mm?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Hmm, gollea simp you te coffee whatever that is? Yeahead,
scept that. So now now back to our originally scheduled programming.
When was the last time Dylan gaber was in a
quarterback competition?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Exactly? Yeah, you're right, because.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Think about it. How many yards has he passed for?
Do you know how many? You know how long you
got to be in college to pass for them? Of
yards that he's passed for? Justin Herbert has been in
the league how long? Because didn't he take up with
Justin Herbert in twenty twenty? So Dylan Gabriel has been
in the league, been he's been to starting quarterback since
what twenty one? No, he came from Oklahoma. Then Gabriel
(16:19):
come from Oklahoma. He transferred from Oklahoma. So he's been
he yeah, he was in there.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He was in them.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So if he transferred from Oklahoma, are you telling me
he ran from competition?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, he ran to the money. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay okay one two.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So he started at u UCF. Oh, he started at
UCF for three years. He was two years in Oklahoma
and then he spent one year at at at Oregon.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ah. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's okay. That's both Knicks. That was both Knicks. I apologize.
That was Bold Knicks. That was there when the coach
remember when they played c U ohoe. Yeah, and the
quarterback and he say.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He's what did he say?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Instagram? Some of them trying to get followers. They tried
to get clicks and followers and we're trying to win
football games.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That was the organ coach. I remember that was a
Mortgaan coach. But yeah, I apologized. That wasn't Dylan Gabriel.
That was Bow Knicks, that was his quarterback at the time.
When he said that ah.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
See, okay, okay, okay, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You got to but again for me, when was the
last time dealing Dalan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?
He was three years that he was three years that
you see, m he was two years at Oklahoma and
one year at what is so?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Six years? So in six years of college football? Six years? Yeah,
three years that you see up. Two years of Oklahoma,
one year at UH.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The only goddamn time ben them guys be gotten getting
seven and eight years old, Joe, you see the got
thirty two?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
What the COVID year? So he gave everybody extra year. Understandable,
But listen the chad. What the chad said? The chad, well,
who the chad believe he took a shot of No,
let me look in the chat. I ain't know. I
ain't open the phone.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Hold on, I'm curious to see what the chat with
the chat would think they are saying. The chat is saying,
I believe he's throwing shade. I thought football was a brotherhood.
(18:25):
I never seen him do that. I don't need it.
He lost his job, Oh he lost his job. Oh
you he got hurt of you? Oh shoot, well but
it looks like it's like a mix. It's a mix
on how everybody feels.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Go ahead, you want something, go ahead, were putting the
replacing the pole up. I just think the thing was
look and I think the thing is because don't yo
what it is is normally we don't get this. We
don't normal normally be interviewing, especially if you're playing during
the core of the game. Different get they get you
know half, you know, in the preseason game. If you're not,
(19:00):
they'll get you an get a few words. Yeah, it's excited.
You know, got some work in, knocked up, some of
the knocked some of the dust the rust off, and
now it's the time for the younger guys and other
guys to get an opportunity to show what they can do.
I'm sure the coaches are excited about that. Hopefully everybody
came out injury free. We'll see after the game, so
forth and song. But hell, everybody out there to compete.
(19:22):
I mean, you do realize like in pro sports it's
all about Hey, it's all about competition.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Ohoe, Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think you competing in your locker room or you're
competing against the other locker room. But you're always in competition.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hey, listen, every every week, yes, every day, every day.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I think he understands that. That's why I said, I'm
giving him grace. And obviously I think you've given him
too much credit. You've given him too much credit. For
those are the people that think it was actually taking it,
taking a shot at Shador. I think we've given him
too much credit to think it would come out and
do something like that publicly, or to even slip up.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Or even you know, I just don't. I just don't
think that's him. Oh. Eighty eight percent said it was
a shot. Twelve percent said was not. Oh shoot, well
maybe y'all, y'all, maybe y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
See it different, because I wouldn't paint it like that honestly,
you know. I mean, I mean, if you're gonna say something,
you know, if there if there's no address on it,
you don't have no destination. If there's no address on it,
it doesn't have a destination.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So I ask your question, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Throwing no Henson, doing no riddles the same you know,
doctor Seuss or Kat and the hat.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
If I'm come on, talk to me coming out.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
How many front office people you think said exactly what
Dylan Gabriel saying. He's more in the entertainment and doing
all this and all those antics than competing.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Okay, listen, I'm picking you. Listen, I'm picking up what
you're putting down. Now. Now, now you making Now you're
making a little sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
We put down I.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I don't like that, because I don't like that, because
that's a part of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right, It's always been a part of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Right, It's never been a part of the game at
that specific position, though correct position has frowned the pun.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They normally button up.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Always always, because when you pick that and you pay
him the kind of money you pay him, not only
you represent the shield, you represent the team in the
organization as well. You are the face of a franchise. Yes,
decade more so, I understand. And now okay, I'm with you.
Now I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You look at his dad. Yes, he was the ultimate entertainer. Yes,
but what's one of the most one of the fiercest competitors.
He believed that you know what, prime time, that's what
you paid to see. You paid me to see all
the antics that you know, hey, get it up. You
know he dancing before they put him or kick the
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ball to him. He got the ball up behind, he
got his hand behind his head. I gotta entertain, y'all.
Ain't it ain't good enough for me to just get
a pick. It ain't good enough for no. No, no
no no no no no no no no. That's not enough.
You can get anybody can do that. I want to
be out going. I want to be braggadocious. I want
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you to know and what I am.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Talk to me now, that sounds for That sounds for me,
don't it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The stats Week one, Shuduel was fourteen to twenty three,
one fifty seven, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Dylan Gabriel was thirteen of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
One four UH with uh total yards total yards okay,
one hundred and fifty seven total yards one forty four
for Gabriel. Uh. Shador had two touchdowns, no turnovers UH
and Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He
had a pick and a fumble. Look, I thought I
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thought he played like you said. I thought he played
a good game with the exception of the turnover that
that bad interception beginning. But do you know the thing
I know that talk to me. The first thing I said,
I said, damn he tiny.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh yeah, he's small. He's small.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
He'd be like, oh my goodness, like maybe Baker height.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
No, hell no, he wish you man bad Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They list him at five or eleven.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Quarter like Brice young Man too, Rice young Yes, yeah,
be about the same. So obviously the Fansky and and
the way that they would run a completely different offense
if they had Dylan Gabriel starting as opposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You gotta roll him out because they're small. You need
to put him outside so he can see. He can
he can see clean pocket. Yes, you gotta roll the pocket.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You gotta roll the pocket or boom hal him in
the goddamn gun all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, well, one of one of the other.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But if Baker, if Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it,
obviously of the weaponry around him, I mean he should be.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He should be able to succeed as well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, a Baker man, I don't I don't think people
give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower
of the football. You don't win the high in trophy
like he did get that team to the college football playoffs,
and and and and and now now that he's in
a system and now he's with coaches that allows him
to be Baker. He's been to Pro Bowls, he's he's
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Baker is a better throw of the football than than
than than I think we give him credit for, or
we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in
a system and he's with coaches that believe in him
and will allow him to be himself. We'll see what. Look,
Dylan Gabriels did throw four ton of yards. I will
not take that away from him. Over sixteen thousand yards.
I mean, Elly played six years, so he's I mean, damn,
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I'm like you, Oh, you're like, damn six years?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
How old is he? If he played six years, he
got to be like twenty four already. I ain't know
that was possible.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now, oh yeah, no, they got he's twenty four. Oh, Joe,
I was. I was twenty one. I turned twenty two
after I got drafted.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So he already. I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hell Brice young age, he might be older than Bryce,
Yeah he might. He Bryce's young age. He's gotta be
Bryce Young's age.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Damn. And that's that's funny. That's that's funny.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Like i I'm I'm baffled.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Held on, let me let me see what you're baffled.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Are you baffled that he played six years and he's
twenty four, or you baffled that the chat believes along
with that, I believe that he was taking and she
was throwing shade or taking a shot at your door. Yeah,
all of the above or some of the above, all
of the above, because honestly, I think y'all, y'all get
y'all giving the mother fucker.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Don't get y'all giving somebody too much credit. You give
him too much credit, too much credit to say, I'm
gonna be brash enough to sit here and talk about
someone that is on my team and take a shot
not in it, and then no, that's that's giving him
too much credit, as if he's a masterminded in the
im media, savvy and knowing how.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
To that point. He didn't think about it. He didn't
think clearly enough. Sometimes, Joe, sometimes we have to be
careful of what we say around others because guess what
we get on here or we get on TV, and
then something that we're talking about in the barbershop or
we're talking about it'll come out. Because sometimes you forget
where you are?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just I think. Listen, young Young Bull played.
He played, he played well, play good, outside of the
interception for six and the fumble in which it wasn't
his fault on the fumble because the guy. I'm looking
at the replay, I'm trying to figure ou why the
running back and got the goddamn Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Be arm what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
He look at he looking straight ahead instead of you know, luck,
come on man, typing up man. But outside of that, listen, hey,
who they playing next week?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Who the Browns play? It's the last game? Man? Who
you telling you? Ain't got to tell me twice I heard,
I heard you before.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And they normally play on They're probably gonna play on Thursday, right,
they play Saturday, play Saturday against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Hey, man, listen, all hands on deck, h all hands
on deck. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I'm
not sure what they're gonna do. I'm excited. I'm excited
because I love I love a healthy competition. Oh yeah,
for sure, I love a healthy competition. I don't believe
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they're keeping all these quarterbacks. I don't know, Yoe, I
don't well, hey, listen, there I mean the Saints. Never mind,
I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna be rude.
I'm not gonna be rude. I'm not gonna be rude.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you. You played the game
a very long time. I played the game a very
long time. I can't remember a scenario where there were
four quarterbacks on the team. I can remember every scenario
that was all ways three, always three. So if there
was an odd man out to me thinking, yes, if
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there was, gonna be one, and that's simply maybe because
of the injury right now and not being able to
showcase it, not being able to showcase much, you know.
And there's no disrespect to Kenny. You know, you had
an opportunity at Pittsford. Obviously in Philly, there's no ye,
there's no way you're gonna start in front of Jamien Hurts.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But I mean, why would they why would they not
keep it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Baby, yeah, I agree. I think wait till the food
comes for your food, your chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, four quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
New England kept four quarterbacks in two thousand but it's
a different time now. Coach Belichick said he was worried
that if he released Tom, somebody was gonna sign it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yes, and that's exactly what would have happen.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You got to say, and you would have to sign
him to the actor, they would de sign him to
the active roster. So he didn't want to run that risk,
so they stash four quarterbacks. M But I agree with you,
and and and and and this situation, the way it's
currently constructed, I don't see a scenario where you keep
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four active quarterbacks. Now, you might have two quarterbacks and
one of the practice squad guys, and then you, let's say,
for the sake of argument, somebody get nicked.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You might bring him up, you might elevate him.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But to have four active quarterbacks, and that means you're
gonna probably have to go without a wide receiver or
a swing offensive lineman or rotational defensive lineman or cornerback
and one of those. And those guys are guys that
can play special teams. Those are the guys that can
play the punt punt return, kick kick return. Your quarterback's
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not doing that. And so basically, if you keep that
many positions, he can only he's only playing one position,
where the other guys that I mentioned the other positions
can play two position. So because normally your guy that
can play the guard, he can play the tackle if
need be, he can play the d tackle, He can
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play the d n but he can also be on
field goal, field goal block, things of that nature, wide receipt.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hold on, we're talking about. We don't know who they're
gonna take it. Hell, let's play goddamn Devil's advocate. Then
let's play Devil's advocate. Has them already said what he
got to say? Andrew Barry knows that he's a genius
in being able to get in the fifth round. Yeah,
you Stefanski, who you want? Whoever has them, won't.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Damn you for real? Yeah? Waits as as as your
question as a head.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Coach, as a head coach, you're going to choose just
because of whatever personal vendettas and may have to say
some of the things he said, you're gonna put your
job on a lie for somebody you know isn't better
than the person that he doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
If that man said, let me ask you a question,
when you got your did you ever get did you
ever get a physical copy or your check or was
your money always directed positive?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Director positive? But I got the uh I went upstairs
and noise got.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll tell you what when you went to OTA's and
you got those with those depositive because last I checked
when I got my check, and always say the Denver
Broncos football Club, right, and and that thing to the
left it said Pat D.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Bowler.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Okay, that thing said the Cleveland Browns Football Club, right,
Jimmy probably Jimmy and d Hasler.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Now you want to ask me that again? Which one
do I want? I got you? Okay, I got you,
I got you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
The fact that I sat here and forgot the person
that said what he said and the position of power
that they were in.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
My bad. You're right?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah yeah, but again maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know. Can I ask you a question? Yeah? My
lack of knowledge and normous it hasn't like that. How
long has he been.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He brought it from the learners? I think he brought
it from He's been there probably what fifteen years. I
think he's on the Browns for about fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He's only for a minute, okay, so he's been there
fifteen years. At least as a fair minimum. Fifteen years later,
they're still looking for what QB. Okay, but we're supposed
to take it. Okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Thirteen years right, so he've been there since twenty twelve,
okay from the Learner family, right, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
We're supposed to take his work.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay. Well, oh, Joe, I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
In the limited Snakets series, a series of unfortunate events happened.
You know, they thought they had their quarterback. I went
to the movie with Jim Carre my poo. My daughter
she's ready. She read the whole series. That's what she
got for Christmas. One year. They thought they had their quarterback.
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But it was a series of unfortunate events that you know,
shoulder a key, leads and things of that nature. But
it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback. It actually,
it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It is, it is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I think, you know what, can I say something real quick?
But can I say something real quick? I'm gonna give
you the three hardest things in life to do. Chat,
y'all write this down to chat. I'm gonna give y'all
two seconds to grab a pin. The three hardest things
they like to do.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Is an NFL team find a quarterback that can be
a franchise quarterback for ten years or more.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Okay, that's one.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Number two, trying to hit a baseball coming at you
ninety five miles an hour on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's two. Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Three try keeping a woman happy long term outside of
the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I knew you last them.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The three hardest things to do in life. Now you
got some. You got some. Some couples you know they
be fifteen or we've been doing this fifteen seventeen years. Yeah, yeah,
pretending you ain't fooling me. You smile behind closed doors.
You're all going, I can't stand you. Don't get me started.
While I sat next to a married couple to day,
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they've been married thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I was nosy. I bean to ask him how y'all
been together? That loan. I had to be nosy.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I say, well, out of the thirty two years you've
been married, how many of those years have y'all been happy? Oh?
You wonder know how many years of those? How many
those years she's been happy? Or they've been happy?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Together. How many the first three.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I don't think any couple can say they've been happy,
they're days. If a couple tell you they've been married
ten years, fifteen years, twenty years, that they've been happy
all the year, No, they're days. Now, there are more
days that I'm happy than i'm sad or disappointed.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, See, they got in depth.
I just don't have that kind of time because I
don't want to switch topic to be on football. I
was just using that analogy, just bringing in context to it.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yes, a couple and he said, the husband.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Said to me and the wife they were in agreeance
and I was enjoying. It was like I was at
therapist and I said, they said, the honeymoon phase lasted
for three years in the marriage, and after that we
have just been.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I forgot the words of you. She is the word
when you just gosh. I forgot words of you. Working, coavitating, cohabit,
that's the word. We're just co habitating.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And I don't want to start over, and I refuse
to deal with anyone else, so we and it's lasted
thirty two I'm like, God, what, God damn well, congradulately
see y'all.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But could I tell you what I got from that? What?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't care because I'm getting married anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I think the thing is O yoe. And you see
this a lot. I mean you see a lot of
couples do this. The kids get out, the kids get
out of high school, the kids graduate college.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
What they do they split? They go to separate ways.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh because sometimes because sometimes they look at it like, well,
we ain't really got anything else to be together for
now the kids grown.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
You think people stay together. You think people stay together?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely, absolutely, yes, yes, yeah, what uh huh?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Hey, you're not talking not our people.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're talking about the other side. People even stay together,
People stay together for kids. Yeah. Hey, sometimes sometimes it's eat.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Sometimes it's easier to stay together because you know, you
can pull your money together. It's going to be much
harder apart. You see this a lot in in in
the professional settings.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
What what women will tolerate in a professional setting when
the money is good?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, hey, listen, come on, the the longer
the money. No, no, no, wait hey baby, you're doing hold on,
I'm plugging up for you.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Hold on, she don't unplugged.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
My term of lights off, the longer, the longer the money,
the longer the leash. It's always been that way, and
if and if and if you depending on how serious
it is, the longer, the longer you with you, and
if you happen to marry him, and then they're oh, no, no,
you're good. And what you're crying for, Oh my goodness, No,
you're good, you're good. I'm gonna plug it up. The
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longer you with them and they ready to leave, as
long as they're taking something with them, they're taking something
with them. They're not leaving without it, not without that lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's the game of the game.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It's always been the game. You got to learn how
to play it, man, that's all come.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
On the charges.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
So on Door Week one, fourteen to twenty three, he
had one hundred and fifty seven total yards, two touchdowns,
zero interceptions, Dylan Gabriel reak two thirteen of eighteen, won
forty four total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns to
turnover the pick six yeah, fumble that was credited to him.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So and after the game, Stefanski was.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Like, he refused to like, you know, I'm not doing
this evaluation. Well, who played there? So who did better
than that? We'll go back, we'll look at the film
and we'll do our proper evaluation and we'll you know,
it'll be interesting to see chap when they hit the
field on Monday or Tuesday, when they back at the
regular practice.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What is the scott what.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Is the the sequenz one, two, three, four?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Who?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
What's the slot where they slotted where the quarterback slotted.
H Maybe that tells us something. Maybe that tells us nothing.
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Who starts week three?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
How much playing time do they get? Does he get
in week three?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Uh? It would be It's gonna be very very interesting
to see.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
There that their evail their evaluation from week one to
week two. I'm sure there are some things both guys
did extremely really well. Uh, some things they would like
to have back. I'm sure the coaches will, you know,
give them a rundown of what they would like they
have seen them do, what they'd like to see them
do better. Uh. But overall, I think both guys played
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extremely well and should feel proud of the performance that
they gave.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what happens.
I wouldn't want to be. I wouldn't want to be
Brown's personnel. I wouldn't want to be Sefanski because listen,
depending on who they pick and who they choose, the
backlash that they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Get, it's gonna be crazy, right, It's gonna it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm not sure has any control over the final fifty three.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Well, honestly, if he doesn't, how is the head coach
not gonna have control over who is gonna put out
there on the field.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And he's the one got a coach something easy?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
You think you think you think Brian Shott and him
had control over the final fifty three in Dallas?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You think McCarthy got That's a different circus. That's a
different circus I think you.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I think are we trying to win? Are we trying
to win? It's a difference.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You have to like come in with you have to
be Andy Reid to get that. Uhh right, Tomlin, you
you've got to put some years unless you're like.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Highly salt after right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Uh Sean McVay, Yes, Kyle shanahan, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
You're naming all the coaches. They're allowed to pick the
players they want because they're successful. Do you know why
they're successful because of the players that they have.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
They're successful because ownership let them let stay out of
their business.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay, I got you. Okay, So Google, that's a food.
That's your food. Jim Harbaugh, Right, Oh yeah, he's another one.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They're consistent winners no matter where to go.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He came so sought after, so you have to give
up something besides money in order to tice him to
leave the University of Michigan. Ben Johnson cames highly touted.
He's offensive coordinated for the Lions the Bears. You got
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to give him something to get him to leave besides money.
And so it's gonna be very, very interesting to see
how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns. O
JO Anthony Richardson Senior saw his most extensive preseason action
you had after sustaining a dislocated finger in Week one
against the Ravens. Richardson completed six of eleven passes for
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seventy three yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties.
He started five or six for sixty four yards, leading
a ninety yard touchdown drive with Chris Passes. Offensive penalty
derailed the next two possessions and the including the gating
of thirty eight yard completion. Daniel Jones started the game,
started the game and led the field go drive, completing
seven of eleven four hundred and one yards. Coat's head
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coach Shane Stichen strongly suggested after the game that the
decision is imminent and the the team's month long quarterback battle.
I've seen obviously three weeks of it, so I like
to have a decision here shortly. I'm very close. I'll
say that I'm very very close. O Jo, who's week
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one started.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I mean, honestly, the way it's looking, you know it's
Daniel Jones. It's Daniel Jones. I think even if even
if Anthony Richards's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's
what they wanted to go with all along. Anyway, I
think there have been issues there with him the first
two years. Obviously they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially
with year three always being the make or break year. Yes, improvement,
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I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach
is talking, I don't like it. Then you signed Daniel
Jones one year, fourteen million that much one year. They definitely,
they definitely were going in the other direction regards what
Anthony Richard would have done in camp or what he
was done in the game, Like, how much better are
you going to be from the first two years coming
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into the third.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, I agree with Oh, there's only so much there's
only so much work.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I mean, it's not going to be a miracle. You
look a certain way year one, you look a certain
way year two, and then all of a sudden year three,
you're gonna come back and just be oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, but that's what they were expecting.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
They were expected, they respect, they were expecting a monumental
jumps because oh, Cho, you in your third year in
the system.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right, Okay, Okay, understandable.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
And he got hit in the face with a bliss
that he should have got hit in the place with as.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
A rookie, not as a third event. Okay, right. And
so look like I said, oh yo, we're not there, Chad.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
If I was there, if I was there and observing practice,
I'd be able to tell you who I think should
be the starting quarterback. But unfortunately, all the thing I
could do is based on what we've seen thus far.
And look, and I don't think it's like it's a
situation where like, oh, this is oh, this is e Stone.
I don't think it's one of those situations, but I
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think it's a situation where you know, like you said,
at some point in time, you're gonna have to give
one of these guys the majority of the reps, so shoe,
you can't keep splitting fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, you already know where they're going. You know the
game they planed. You knew the game they were playing
when they brought Daniel Jones in for that, for that
amount of money, for that amount of money on a
one year deal. Yeah, I already knew the game they
were playing.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
What baby, Well, Papa, okay, okay, I'm gonna call Papa
for you.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So you got Daniel Jones. It's been interested chat y'all
think it's gonna be Daniel Jones. Do y'all think it's
gonna be uh, Anthony Richardson Senior. It's not like either
one of the guys just blowing your way.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean, were you you up you're upstairs? Yeah? Yeah,
she's uh, she's all right.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm gonna just come come to fourteen seventeen, fourteen, fourteen seventeen,
all right to see. All right, Papa coming to get
you because you're not letting daddy work. Daddy working.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
You were good to see Daddy that much to begin with,
So I don't care about you working now, that's what
I think about you working?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Who did? H oh? Herry is coming? Okay? They played
the They played the Packers today. Hey are you able
to watch all the games? No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Hey they need they need to they need to put
the games on one channel.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Well, first of all, first of all with you, you
know the preseason, so basically you're going to get only
the only you'll be able to watch the local game, right,
uh so, but I guess you know they got it.
They're gonna have it fixed where you'll be able to
uh once you play, pay all that money. It's gonna
cost you by two thousand dollars to watch all the
(47:09):
games that much. Yeah, you got to get every streaming service.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
M m my everything is not everything is on one
service now.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Right on? My I thought that was a whole joint.
You tripping. Oh man, I'm excited, bro. So Daniel Daniel
Jones started the game, huh, or or at the Richardson
started the game.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I think Daniel Jones did start.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
A seven of eleven for one hundred and one yards,
and then richards was six of eleven for seventy three yards.
I think that's Riley Leonard seven or twelve sixty four
yards that Jones started, he started, okay, he started game
two after Richardson started game one.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Okay, okay, So they went back and forth to make
sure each person got theF and.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
He says, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
I think he says, I've seen obviously three weeks of it,
so I like to have a decision here shortly, and
I'm very close. I'll say that I'm very close. I
think he's seen enough.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Damn, I think.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
He's I think he has his mind made up that
who he who he wants to start.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I'm leaning towards you. Why bring a guy?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Why bring a guy in to make fourteen million dollars
and it happened to be the backup?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
It's not like that Jones had his pick of choice
of where you go. I mean, not for that kind
of money.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
No, absolutely not, but that that lets you know how
entre need of a quarterback that the Coats were.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yes, you saw what you saw, you saw what you saw.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
In New York and say, you know what, we're gonna
bring you in to compete because we don't think our
quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet.
But hell, you didn't figure it out when you were
in New York. But we think you're gonna come here
and all of a sudden something supposed to change. So
two wrongs don't.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Make it right.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Two folds I think they really want because they bring
a quarterback in for a million. Let's just say, for
the sake of argument with YO, they bring a back
up in and they're gonna pay him four million dollars.
You're not gonna take that serious man, that ain't going
on no bench for no guy making fourteen For four million.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
You bring a guy in making fourteen. Fourteen, Now you
know they serious.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Fourteen ain't sitting on no bench. I can tell you
that fourteen is not sitting over. They talking about quarterback controversy,
They talking about quarterback battle.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
There is no quarterback battle.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
If the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind
of money on a one year.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Deal, he probably making more than after Richardson this year.
What's after richardson bay salary this year?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
He's only in this third year, hunk, it's not that much.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, because he got a bull His contract is fully guaranteed.
But he got probably the most of his money and
the signing bonus. So he probably got twenty five million
dollars in the signing bonus. So Joe so Afthon Richardson
probably making what eight million dollars this year?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Right? Four million?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
He making three point eight So one guy making three
point eight million, the other guy making fourteen million. Do
you think they're gonna put the guy that's that's making fourteen.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Million on the bench. No? You know what?
Speaker 3 (50:50):
You know what I don't like, though, hold on is.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
His money guaranteed that they guarantee his money? No, Jones?
Yo know, Afthur Richardson got thirty four million guaranteed. Here
his money guaranteed. He gonna get. He got twenty two
million of signs, so he's gonna get that final twelve.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
You know what, I'm mad because Anthony Anthony Richardson, it's
supposed to be like Josh let me let me, let me,
let me get this out, go ahead. Anthony richard is
supposed to be like Josh Allen. Anthony Richardson is supposed
to be like a new version of Cam Newton. Yes,
(51:28):
like that's the kind of potential and and and like
I don't I don't know at what point what went
wrong or what's happened if he's not focused, if he's
not locked in after this year, after this year, Anthony
Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for
when those two hundred and fifty three hundred million dollars deals. Yes,
(51:51):
that is what I saw in him coming out of Florida,
based on the eye test and what I'm looking at
all the intangibles. Does everything right, except you.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
See that on the piece. I was shocked. I was
shocked that he moved up the draft boards.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I like, but see Ojo, go back and watch the tape, right,
you see, you see what happened. Now you see how
some people watch tape right, and then somebody go by
the combine. If you look at his car, if you
didn't know anything about it, and all you did was
watch the combine, you understand.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Now, go back and watch his tape in Florida. Hey, well, yeah,
you did tell me that. You didn't call me that.
Go back? What go back, go back and watch his tape.
You didn't tell me that. But if it was measurable.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
It was so hard to pass up the O Joe
six four two forty five running four four can drow
the ball eighty yards?
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Which is what which is what I said, with the measure,
we could take the measurables right the reason that they
went up to go grabbing the draft. And if the
measurables put up with the play on the field, after
this year three season, they comeing to see you. You
finh tell the house down. I agree, you fin it,
(53:15):
tell the house down.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
That's how That's how I'm visualizing it, and I can't
I can't believe. I don't know at what point and
if if you don't get it here, if you get
beat out by brother Daniel Jones, then a day, a
day like that like in what I'm visualizing, if I
was Anthony Richardson, is not happening.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
It's not happening.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
We yeah, yeah, they would never They're not bringing Daniel
Jones in because I'm gonna do it. You do everything,
you do what you're supposed to do. You're not the
you're not the last in in the first out.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
So that's it. That's it. That's in't a bad message there,
O Jo, Yeah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
You think maybe it's focused to somewhere else and not
just don't start belying.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
I don't know enough about it. I don't know enough
about it.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
I don't like I like young Boy, man, I like
Young Bull. I hope things work out for him over there, man,
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