BEST OF NFL Week 14 Part 1: Lamar STRUGGLES, Bronco's CAN'T LOSE, J.J. McCarthy PROVED to be the Vikings QB1 or NAHH?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make Oho cry. Yeah,
how we do it? Oh the bills? Josh Allen?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on? Why are your
energy you show?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, you show, you show?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Getting we do? I said, come on, come on John?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? What
what happened to the energy you just had when the
Ravens lost? Did you keep.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
The Ravens? Did you not just hear me going on
the Ravens now whiles? Cause you don't. Every time you
say something a lot, don't care who tell it. We
gonna win out our defense playing.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Hey wait a minute, we had our defense was playing today.
We had an opportunity to win this game. Everybody had
an opportunity to win the game. That's why you play
the game. You played to win the game.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, well, let's speak facts on why we don't know why.
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Part to me is that you're lost and you're done.
You're done.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We will We're done.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
What you're done? No, you're done. You think, you.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Think, Okay, come on, let's talk. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The best you can talk about is to get eight wins.
That's the best you could hope.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're gonna win our division. That's that's all that mattered.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, Buffalo overcame a ten point fourth quarter deficit, score
twenty one points in a foul quarter. Those bungles went ahead.
Let Josh Allen make some history. Josh Allen is the
first player in the NFL history with at least two
hundred and fifty passing yards, seventy five rushing yards, three
touchdown passes, and a rushing touchdown in two career games.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Previously callers in the beat Week.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Fourteen or twenty twenty four, Allen now has twenty two
touchdown passes twelve ushing touchdowns in twenty twenty five. Is
the first player in NFL history with at least twenty
touchdown passes and at least ten rushing touchdowns and at
least three career seasons twenty three, twenty four, twenty five,
and he got four game left. He ain't done. Allen

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has fifty career games with a rushing and a passing touchdown,
the most in NFL history, alan Tye Peyton Manning for
the third most games with two hundred and fifty passing
yards three touchdowns with a one twenty five or higher
quarterback rating. Only mahme Boy with twenty and Patrick Mahomes
will fourteen have more. Allen, who has three thousand, eighty

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three yards passing twenty two touchdown passes twelve rushing touchdown,
is the first player in the NFL history with at
least three thousand passing yards, twenty touchdown passing, ten touchdown
rushing in three consecutive seasons. He did that a career.
Oh y'all, y'all did that? Nice?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Be nice?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
He nice?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
First off, first first off before I even started. I
want to congratulate, you know, all the Bills fans. I'm
sure there are a lot of Bill fans in the
chat that are watching. Congratulations the Josh Josh Allen on
on what he was able to accomplis today. Obviously we
were winning the game. We to meet actually dominated that game.
We ad yeah, hey, we we dominated this game until

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the fourth quarter. Even when the Bills were up I
think what maybe what five minutes to go? The bi
Bills were up thirty thirty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
How they get up to thirty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean that that's the game, That's the way the
game was going.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
But listen, no, I'm not gonna let you gloss over
because i told you that. I told you there have
been time that your quarterback has let this team down.
See you look at all those fancy yards he threw
for this many yards, he got this many touchdown. Tell
the people at home happened, because some people it was
blacked out in the area.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now tell the people what happened.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm that was that was that I was getting. The
first interception happened with five minutes ago when when they
were up you heard me, the ball slipped out.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
He tried the.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Corner was blitzing on the corner blitz Obviously, when the
corner blitzes, the hot route is for Chase to open up.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And he tried to throw it to him right away.
The ball strips out.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
He lost at it. He tried to get it over.
He didn't realize that's a corner.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
You can't loft it right right, right, right right, So
he lost at it came out. It came out real
lazy boom. Christian Benford picked it off, went down sixty
eight yards, and that was the drive for us to
actually because it was thirty It was thirty thirty two
twenty eight at.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
The time, and we were going to go down. We
were going to go down to score on that drive.
We wereing to go down. We're going to go down
and score on that drive, and probably we're probably gonna
take up eat up most of that clock.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
We were going to eat up most of that clock
and probably win the game. But unfortunately, when that happened
on it was a wrap.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
It was a rap.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
What happened? Tell the people what happened after that pick
that he got? He read in the touchdown. Tell her
what happened on the very next possession? Another pick? Are
you gonna tell the story?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Look here? If you're gonna tell the story, how did
you tell the story?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
And this entirely well, it was it was it was
another pick. It was what you got chat now, it
was hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
It was twenty eight thirty four. T Higgins scored, No
t Higging scored after that. The next drive, tigg And
scored hunh.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
They had already got that. Y'all threw picks back to
back position.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
We did. We did. Yeah, we did, we did. We did.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Hold on, hold on honk hey, hey, hey, can you
remember the plate, can you?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? Remember the floor It got batted up in the
air and it got caught it.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh that's right there, right, Oh, the stick route, the
stick routed the chase. He tried to throw the stick
rout to the chase real quick, and the god damn
linean put it. Put his hand up and yeah, yeah,
you remember.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
All of a sudden, No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
No, listen, I just I just needed you. I just
I just I had to recall it. I had to
recall it real quick because I watched all the games today,
so it's hard for me.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
To They're hard for me to remember. I remember everything.
Is they a particular player? You want me to pour out?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
No, you know, but listen, if I mean, if Joe
doesn't throw those twinter sevens, I'm almost I'm almost.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Positive we win that game. It's unfortunate it didn't go
in our favor. As well as we played offensively. T
Higgins had a day. Higgins had a day. Joe was
cooking up until that point, late in the fourth quarter,
with maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
James Cook thumbling on the two yard line. You want
to talk about that? Oh yeah, you want to talk
about that.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
We should have won the game if one hundred and
eighty three yards rushing to fifty one passing. Josh Josh
Yelly got the most jerseys in the Hall of Fame
in NFL history. He got about five jerseys. That cause
a can we get this?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I like, I'm glad you hap.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I ain't had no dog in I just happen to
be a fan to day.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I know you don't have no dog in the fight,
but you showed it.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Happy to be I feel attacked.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I'm not attacking.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'm just saying your energy is different because you didn't
have that kind of energy when the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
You was upset, you was mad.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I was up.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Now you happen your opportunity.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now you don't tell me how I want this, how
I feel, how I was supold to do.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well, Listen, that was my opportunity to to to crush you.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
You should. Now you don't get another chance because guess what,
the Broncos won. We took it. You told me RONC
was gonna lose to the Raiders. Remember that chat.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Didn't you say, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute, calm down a little bit. Calm down, because
the Dolphins did one day. The Dolphins wanted right now
about dolphins.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
In a minute, I want you to talk about the bungles.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
We lost the game. We lost the game.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Joe Burrow who cost the interceptions at the end of
the game when we had a chance to go down
to tie. Matter of fact, no, we didn't have a
chance to go down to tie. We had a chance
to go down and take the lead. Then we come back,
We come back.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's thirty nine. We threw a touchdown, and we threw
a touchdown to Tea.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I think we got the ball back boom once we
once we threw got.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Damn man, I was doing good tonight to oh.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Last week, you had something I told you up. We're
gonna wear it out. You told me what you tell me?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I told you it was gonna win out. Hey, listen,
but listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. We still have a
chance to win.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
We still up.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
You know, we already beat the Steels, right, you know,
we already beat the Raves, right, let me finish, and
we already beat the raveis right. You know, the Ravens
got to come to us as bad as the Ravens plan.
They got to come to us at home. You know,
they got to come to us at home.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
So let me tell you, as long as we win
this division, there's one team I don't think anybody in
the a FC wants to see, and that's up.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
No, I know everybody want to see y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Nah should not do know nobody want to see that offense?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
May what about your defense?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Don't nobody want?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
What about y'all? Just gave up thirty nine?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
We we we We ain't playing the Bills every week.
I think that's the first time the Bills beat us?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
And how long don't do that?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Don't do? You begone? You beg It seem like everybody
got no Hey, let me ask you a question. Pay
you got a defense? What about the Houston Texans? What
about the Broncos?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Okay, they can't do nothing, Hey, hold on, hold on,
hold on, listen, listen, listen for all of for all
those teams, you're saying they have a great defense. We
have a great offense. We have a great offense that
can match up with everybody.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
But what about y'all defense. Can y'all match up with
anybody's offense?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, I mean that, I mean that that's the problem.
That that's that's the.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Problem is maybe at this joke right now, my job
is not to solve y'all problem.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, well man, listen, we're gonna be all right.
I'm gonna be all right. Hey, Hey, I'm I'm I'm
glad happy.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's never iffy. If it's griffy other side, he left handed.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Hey, we're gonna know I'm right handed.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Hey, we're gonna win the division. Though, We're gonna win
the division.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Listen, we lost. We lost to the Bills. We lost
to the Bills. The Bills, he Josh Allen played the
great game. We we led most of the game. I
was confident that we were going to win this game
based on the way we were playing.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I was. I know, you're happy because that's supposed that
it took the lead until James Cook fumbled the ball.
They're about to go, but they're about to stop. A
mother hold on, y'all. Then that's about the whole I
can hear it. Now, let's go, but flo let's go
a little bit softened down, a little bit soften a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Now, soften now.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, that's gonna bill.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Hey, it's all good. It's all good. Listen, hey, chat.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I know the chat probably laugh and they probably talk
about my bangals, But it's okay.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
We listen.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
When we get the Ravens, when we get your team,
when we get your team next week Sunday, I'm gonna
be there you.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'm gonna be there. We play. Hold on, we play, y'all.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
This Sunday coming game. No, I think not. They might
want to they No, they might want to flex.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Four nineteen, that ain't happening.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Listen, it's one of the better for nine teams there is.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
First of all, it's the first of all, it's the
Cowboys and the Vikings or Sunday Night.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So y'all ain't getting.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Flexed the Vikings the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
First of all, it's the Cowboys. Damn who they playing?
You know you already know how that work.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's cool. It's cool.
We're gonna be all right. We're gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You're all right.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
I'm telling you, we're gonna we're gonna win win the
AFC North. We're gonna win the AFC North, uh huh.
And when we in the f C North, nobody wants
to see us.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Baltimore is already The odds makers got Battimore favor the
odd the odds making, the odds making. Ain't struck the ball. Hey,
y'all ran t back out there now. Team miss tied
with a concussion last week. He hit his head on
the turf, and y'all rushing right back in the ball game.
You better be careful with him.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Ojoe be good, good, tea good, t good. He got
to learn, he got to learn how you fall. You
got to stiff in your body up. When you're stiffing
your body up, boom the neck. Don't go back all
the way. You you can't hit that ground loose. When
you hit the ground loose, bombing that head snapped back.
You just tighten the body up, real good everything, Stay
right there.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Out the playoffs. Stay right there.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
And you're nervous, I'm being nervous, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, okay, good job, Josh. Appreciate that le bron goals
the number one seed, the number one seed. Damn see
the Broncos beat the Ravens twenty four. Sent Hey, see
that what I'm talking about? Played to figure out what we.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Played the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Hey, you played the Raider beat the Patriots? Are the Patriots?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Any good?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You played the Raiders beat the Patriots? Are the Patriots?
Any good? Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I'm gonna asking you.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Are you happy about being the Raiders beat the Patriots?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Are the Patriots? Any good?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's a simple yes or a simple note.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Any giving Sunday? Sunday they beat us?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You're right, any give us someday?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
But it was not. Are you happy about thirty one
of thirty thirty one of thirty eight to twelve? We
had another one fifty two on the ground average five
yards of carrot boy? We did another, Oh boy, we
did a number. Got thomo, SATs fomo and raders for
that Bush league color time about to kick a fifty

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yard field?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Gold to man, y'all need to stop go forward.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Y'all played, y'all play the Raiders. Y'all ain't played no competition? Like,
come on, man, we make everybody little at the copy.
We won eleven games, so have we had not had
any competition?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean, you want a eleven game? Because the defense
war war time. I don't know why we won. I
don't know why we won. Is that we won.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I just told.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
You you won eleven games.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Because you y'all all these games because of what? Because
our defense is not that.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm trying to figure out how that a major concern.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm just giving I'm giving you a bet.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm giving you a better explanation on why you guys
are you won eleven games?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Let's let's let's not get beside ourselves.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Out in front of myself, all right, brok The Broncos
second team ever to win five consecutive role games by
seven or few points in a single season, joining the
two thousand and three New England Patriots that went on
and won the Super Bowl. The Broncos leading NFL with
fifty five sacks, or the second team since nineteen ninety
to have at least fifty five sacks in their first

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thirteen games of a season, joining the two thousand New
Orleans Saints who had fifty six.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Hey hey, hey, them boys playing some ball? Boy, Get
what it is? Cooper's he is? Cooper? It's cool? What's
the name? Cooping man? What's young bull? Name on them boys?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Nice them boys? Nice them Boy's real nice man. Listen
if y'all, y'all are gonna go a very long way.
You heard me, y'all are gonna wait. Y'all are gonna
go a very long way with that defense playing the
way they are like yesterday, very very very long way. Yeah,
I know I was, I was talking to trash, but
that damn defense looked real good. Both Nicks making the
plays that he needs to make, not putting the ball

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in harm's way, Courtland something making plays, Memes did what
he need to do on special teams. He had a
good run for a touchdown today. Uh, outside of that,
you know, y'all, y'all won the game. But again, it
was the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
It was a Raiders. It's nothing to be you know,
hyped about. You know it was.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
It was a good win. It was a team win.
But I mean, it's nothing to be bragging about or dancing.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
To a lot to be dancing to eleven two?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Hold on, who all playing that?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
We ate whoever on the schedule you lied them up.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Now, I'm just curious because you you excited. I'm just
I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
You all got getting packers in Denver?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh hey, you ready for that? You're ready for plays.
Y'all gonna be Hey, y'all gonna be eleven and three.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I could take you.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Did you see the package of Now? You see the
package of Now?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, Caleum let them off the hook, Caleb let him
off the hook.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know that, let them off the hook.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
So you're gonna blame the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hey, and we got the Jags.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
So we got the Packers and the Jags at home,
then we get go to the Chiefs on Christmas, and
then we get the Charges at home.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Hold on, you talk, you saying you got the Jags,
like the Jags didn't just put up what thirty of
the day.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
If I'm not mistaken, Bro, you sure you want you?
Sure you want you? Sure you want that Jacks team?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Bro, Daniel Jones got hurt the jack seeing that I
saw today, Daniel Jones got hurt.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh so okay, I see what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Okay, I think the Jags put up forty If I'm
if I'm not mistaken, I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Saying, did you see the Jags defense?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
They put up thirty six?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
No, but it's okay, oh yoe, oh.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Thirty six okay, thirty six forty? I mean just round
it off. Might as well be forty.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I'm around, Y'll round off, y'all forty nine. I round
it off to three and ten. Hold on, oh Joe,
I don't root every time Cincinnati played. I don't root
for the other team. You root for every team that
played my Broncos. Why no, no, listen, I'm room for you.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Hey, listen, I'm a football fan. I have nothing against
the Broncos. I have nothing at all. I'm happy for them.
I love the players, I love the fans, I love
the organization. I'm just saying this is just friendly. This
is friendly banter back and forth.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's you wish bad on my team?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Nah, what you wish bad on my team?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You started? You started. The Coats lost in Jacksonville, which
they do every year. They have not won they have.
The Colts haven't won in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen, and
they played there every season. The loss dropped the Coats
out of first place in the AFC South and now
they sit at eight and five in third place, and

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most importantly, Daniel Jones suffered what is feared to be
a torn achilles during the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
The Coats incredibly Dallason.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Cason has hit the skids and they've lost three games
in a row and four of their last five.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Their final four games are in order.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
They get Seattle at home, they get the forty nine ers,
UH at home, they get the Jags, and then they
go to Houston. Oh Joe. Daniel Jones was the hell
of a season. He was in the MVP discussion. He
was trying to cut it up for him. He was
playing with a broken lower leg, and now it looks

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like they feared that he's have a torn achilles.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
He did. He tore it.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
He tore it, non non contact injury on the throw
he went down. Anytime you see someone grab the back
of that leg, grab the back of that that lower extremity,
you know towards the hill, you know, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
He was pissed. He was pissed, slamming his head down.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, hell no, it shouldn't be because if Kirk Cousins
can get what he got, he damn shows didn't get
what he got.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Absolutely absolutely yeah, he's still gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
He's still gonna get it. He's definitely gonna get it.
He was playing very, very well, and they he's the
quarterback for the coach for the future based on what
he was able to do. You know, you know they
this season, so he put enough on film for them
to be confident and get that, get that, get that
big payday that he's so deserving off of what he's done.
But that God, damn Trevor Lawrence seventeen for thirty two

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forty four two tds. Brian Thomas Junior, I'm glad to
see you back, baby, I'm glad to see you back
making catches three for eighty seven to day.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Hey, I'm trying to think the Jags got to play
the Broncos in two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't
looking good. Ain't looking good, y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Saying go sack him probably about five six times.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Nah man, Travis at in two to carries seventy four
and two tds, but them boy put up thirty six.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
They did thirty six.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Hey, we man, Duvall, Tovall, Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I can't wait the Travis I can't wait the Travis
Hunter come back. Trap. He's gone for the whole season. Damn.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Man who ran for seventy five seventy four yards said
just after the game, it just goes along with being
this organization and the way this organization has been for
some time now. We're not going to get their respect,
but we kind of don't even care.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's how it is.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean, if they don't give it to you gotta
take it. Everybody not gonna get you everything you want.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Sometimes you gotta take it. You got to make your
presence felt.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
That's what you gotta do. And that's what that's That's
what the Jaguars are going to have to do. Trevor
Lawrence is all on you. It's all on you.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
You got to you got to play like the first
round pick that you were first pick in the draft.
You got to lead them to the Promised Land. If
they're going to win, it all starts with Sunshine. That's
his name, Sunshine.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
MacArthur and the Bike is rebound with a thirty one
zip win over the Commanders, who lose Jade Daniels to
an injury again. McCarthy threw a career touchdown passes and
his first turnover free game, returning from his latest injury
absence in prime form, Commanders lost their eighth straight game
one week after being shut out for the first time

(22:15):
in eighteen years, they delivered a shutout. It's just their
second turnover free game this season. Jason Daniels was forced
out midway through the third quarter when he was when
he was blocked during an interception return and landed hard
on his left elbow, the one he dislocated a month
ago and required a three game as Daniels missed three

(22:36):
games with the injury. Mariota, who's won in five as
a starter, through an interception and lost the fumble in relief.
It's just, it's just it's just been very tough form
this year.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's been tough for the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah. Yeah, they got to shut They got.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
To you mean the commanders, I mean commanders, Yes, excuse me, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
They got they got to shut.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Jay down, shut him down.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
They gotta shut shut him down for the rest of
the year. The season is over at this point. Allow
them to get healthy and just look look forward to
next year. The Vikings, the Vikings needed this game. They
needed this game a lot. JJ McCarthy didn't look good
at all last week, so he needed his game for
his confidence.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean they didn't really do anything offensively. You know,
that really wiled you.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
I mean, JJ, you know sixteen to twenty three through
He threw three tds for one sixty three. Jordan Madison
had four for sixty two. Ammon Jones fourteen carries seventy
six yards. I mean, it was it was okay. I
don't think a performance like this defense, defense played really well.
I don't think a performance like this would win them
games against the better teams that that would be able

(23:45):
to have our offensive output.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
The Commanders really couldn't get anything going. And that's why,
I mean, obviously the score line looked the way it
did today.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Boy, I feel bad for Jetta, Huh. I feel bad
for Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
You gonna you're gonna be all right. You're gonna be
all right quarterback.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
But I do agree with you all the Jaye Daniels.
There's nothing to be game from this season. They're not
going to the playoffs. Try to position yourself, get high
and get you a good draft pick. Try to build
a team. I mean, you look, they did a great job.
They sacked JJ McCarthy four times, but you can't overcome
this team is not good enough to overcome the turnovers

(24:36):
that they have. You can't turn them all over three
times and expect to win, not that you're not that
good as a team.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
You're not that good.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Now and and and like you said, uh JJ McCarthy
played well today, sixteen or twenty three, one sixty three,
three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Clean game, didn't have a turnovers.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's only the second time and what not in U
thirteen games they've been turnover free.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Right, It's hard.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's it's hard to win when you turn the ball
over and you're not that talented of an offense or
you're not that good as a team. I think defensively
they can. Look they got some they got pieces. I
think I think J. J. McCarthy is gonna have to
get He's gonna have to get a lot better. O Yo,
he's gonna have to get a lot better in order
for this team to compete with Jordan Love in Chicago

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and Detroit. That's what's in your division.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, and listen that that's what it comes down to.
You come down to the quarter quarterback position. The quarterback.
The quarterback will be the reason whether you win or
lose games.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
And then that's all to come down.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And then oo you see that that head that Erz took.
Oh the rule that's why I'm not going to let
you hit him in his head.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, I mean, listen that that's that's the what not?
Is that the competition committed? Yeah yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
A defensive receiver.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's a blow to the head, the head, next shoulder area,
and so guys are going low. I hate it. I hated.
I hated for Erth. I mean it was Lord. I
know it felt like his knee exploded. Hm hm damn.

(26:25):
It's just a temporary setback. Bro, Hey, have that surger,
you rehab and come back strong.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Matthew Stafford and Pooking Nicoua helped the Rams still on
top of the NFC West with a forty five seventeen
win over the Arizona Cardinals. Stafford threw for two hundred
and eighty one yards and three scores, Pooka, the CoA
and Blake Corum both scored twice, and the Rams scored
thirty five unanswered points to bounce back from last week.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Turnover Field lost to Carolina.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Los Angeles won for the seven time in eight games
and stayed a top Seattle uh in the NFC West
in one game ahead of the forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Man, look, I think Drake.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
May is playing unbelievable, but Matthew Stafford is out of
his damn mind right now.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, so Matthew Stafford is your MVP this year?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think he had what did he have? Thirty three?
Thirty five touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And and and and and four picks?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Boy?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
He cutting up, bro, he cut matter of fact, he's
doing all this with no training camp.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Pookah.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Some was wrong with hey, hold on, some was someone's
wrong with his back, but it.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Is because he's had back issues before Ocho. That was
a problem that. Yeah, that was a problem that he
had in Detroit. He's had back issues, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Okay, well listen, listen. He next year he needed to
do a game he messed up. Yeah, sit out again.
Because the fact that a quarterback like that a season.
If you can miss training camp and still come out
throughout the regular season and play this, well, I'm all
for it. Let your armrests, let your armrest, no wear
and tear, you know, I mean you You'll be fine.

(28:12):
And the fact that he didn't have training camp and
really couldn't get that report report with his receivers and
you still putting up numbers like this, man, The hell
with training camp for him.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, he was twenty two or thirty one three, two
eighty one, three touchdowns, no interceptions. They ran the ball
thirty six times for two forty nine Pook and the
cou had seven catches for a buck, sixty seventy two
touchdowns Davonte. They finally did a great job. They kept
Davonte out of the end zone. He's leading the NFL
and touchdown catches. I think he got like fourteen.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Fourteen.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
He got your money, God damn. Yeah yeah, uh Man
Jacobin percent Wheeland dealing for the carters on you. I
know they lost, but yeah, two seventy one, two touchdowns
and a pick one. They just couldn't run the ball,
so they couldn't keep couldn't keep that.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
He was under he was under pressure. Michael Wilson, I
like him. Eleven catches a buck, forty two bride five
for fifty eight. He didn't get in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, boy, Jakobe Rissette Wheeling and Dylan what's.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
What's stafford numbers? They look good. The Rams look good,
O Joe, The Rams look good. The Rams look they
look really good. And I know Drake May is playing
unbelievable and he got them a top. They're there and
second place with eleven and two with Matthew Stafford's playing

(29:50):
some excellent football.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Lights out.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's on the.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
He uh thirty five, he has uh three thousand, three
hundred and fifty four yards Old Joe, which is fifth.
It's thirty five touchdowns, it's one and I don't think
anybody's close to that. And nobody's even close to that,
are they? And four interceptions, nobody's close to that.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Would you say you got three thousand? How abut three
thirty three fifty four? Okay?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Back the next with twenty six touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And he has what.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Thirty five and forty picks?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Man? Hey, that boys over the dealing boy.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
So he might have. He might have. Where's Drake May?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
He might be in the league now because Drake May
was on the by as far as passing yards.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, Drake May was first, probably second now.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
At thirty three fifty four. I know he's passed passing touchdowns.
I know he's won thirty four to twelve. Okay, so
he's about about sixty yards basically fifty eight yards behind
Drake May. So he's second now, Okay, okay, okay. After

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critical twenty seven, twenty two loss to the Steelers. Many
of the Ravens questioned the call made by the referees,
notably an overturned touchdown reception by Isaiah Likely in the
fourth quarter. The referee initially ruled Likely scored a thirteen
yard touchdown pass from Lamar Jackson, which would have given
the Ravens a one point lead with two forty three remaining,

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despite the tight end losing the ball in the end zone,
but less than a minute later, referee Alex Moore announced
it was incomplete. Likely had the ball punched out by
Joey Porter Jr. Before he made.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
The necessary third step in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
De Hot tweeted and deleted NFL at officiated thirteen years
in this league. How many steps do you need in
the end zone for a touchdown?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It took me. How let you take it?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I was just gonna say, you know, you know the rule.
I know the rule a catch. For a catch to
be completed, you have to take three steps. He took two,
and on that third one, Yeah, the ball got punched out.
So technically, if that was in the field of play,
or if it was an end zone, it was still
would have been an incomplete pass. I mean, you know,

(32:33):
understanding the rules and knowing that he had he had possession,
but you have to complete the catch with momentum and take.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That third step.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
It's unfortunate, and I mean they didn't, they didn't win
the game. Goddamn. Aaron Rodgers was dealing today. Aaron Rodgers
was dealing today. It wasn't just just that that that play.
I mean there were other plays that could have been
made that could have changed the trajectory of that game
for the Ravens as well.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
But hell, you gotta get a Steel's credit.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
How many times likely are you gonna get the ball
punched out? Remember, oh Joe, he tried to switch the
ball against Cincinnati and he got it knocked out. Now
go back and look at the first touchdown that he
got and see what he did. He secured it. How
many you don't get style points for touchdown? He was
doing this. All he had to do was security. He
had it just like this here. Why because it looks cool.

(33:25):
How many times you saw him on Thurst Thanksgiving he
did the same thing and got it knocked out and
it was a touchback. So how many times actions without consequences?
No lesson can be learned.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
You would have.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Thought the action that he had Thursday night on Thanksgiving
would have taught him a lesson, because there was a
valuable lesson to learn because the consequences was it was
a touchback and not a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
But guess what he didn't learn.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, trying to hold, trying to grab it, man, bring
it there, because I'll tell you one thing. Once you
grab and bring it in, tuck and make it that
much more difficult to get it out of there, and
make it that much more forget it and you don't.
You don't have to stress holding on to it, that
damn type with somebody trying to fight through your hands chat.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Go back and look at the first touchdown.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Go back and look at the first touchdown and see
what he did when he caught it. He made sure
he's security. It wasn't nobody really around him. Now this
guy's on his tail. He can feel it because you know,
oh Joe, you know when I broke away because I ran,
I ran a little over angle and the guy's already
outside leverage, so I know he's gonna be driving hard.

(34:43):
I already know that I don't get it. Lamar had
some drops but Lamar's not throwing the football well, o Joe.
He had Za Flowers on a touchdown and he undershot
him and he threw it behind him and the guy
knocked it up, got it out. They was party like,
put it out there. He had him Rashan Bateman, he

(35:06):
had it was fourth I think it was third down.
He hit him, he dropped it. Yeah, but Lamar is
not playing well. Y'all know that ain't no sense. I'm
not breaking news to you. I'm not interrupting your normally
scheduled programming. Breaking news to you. Lamar Jackson isn't playing well.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
He's just not.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
And a lot of that has to do with your
left guard. He's terrible, and I Chad, I know sometime
my bluntness is not the best. But he's not good.
That left guard is not good. I mean, he ain't.

(35:49):
You shouldn't be allowed to be that big and that sorry,
that needs to be that to be a prerequisite. If
you this big, you got to be good. This man
so he can blocked the sun out of his eyes,
let alone a defensive linement on an extra bliss a coming.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Let me let me what what number is? He don't
say seventy seven, seventy seven for.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Late yeah, yeah, yeah, but he forlate Fish for late
yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I been listen on film. He is always he's always
at the scene of a crime.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
And I mean no dis.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Seventy seven yet yeah, on.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
The on the games that I've seen is it's always him,
always the same one. I think I think he's better
at run blocking as a I think he's better as
a run blocker as opposed.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
To bring bring your lands here on fourth down, fourth
and one, fourth and two. But most of the way
the teams are set up, Now, Joe, you got to
throw the ball at some point in time. Yeah, you
got to throw it at some point in time.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, He's that's that's his strength.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
That has to be a strength, you know when it
comes to the run because it's past blocking.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Uh uh, always at the scene of the crime every time.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
It's being reported that Lamar Jackson had a heated interaction
on the sideline with Daniel Filllele after the interception per
Tracy Wolfson.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
At this point, so oh, Joe, let me.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Ask you this, If as sad as he's been playing
this entire season, how bad must his backup be? Mhm.
Chad y'all need to help me out. If he's this bad,
he's so bad that you can't mention how bad.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
But ain't. No, I need somebody to help me.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Ain't no way the backup can be that bad because
at the backup that bad. He ain't even a high
school player. I mean, how you oh yo, how you
pass it and you don't block nobody? Yeah, I mean
to be that big. I mean the sun rides up
and the sun shining. He can't even block the sun out.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Of his eyes.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh, Joe, sun blind him. He just walked right into
the wall because he can't do this.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, he got his shot. He a big boy to now.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Big and tal.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Damn he's as big as he is.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Mm hmm. Yeah, you know that's your that's your team
that lost to now whoa, whoa, whoa, Oh Joe, Hey, hey,
that's your team. That's your team that lost, Joe.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, like Cole used to tell us a son,
you can't be old and slow.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Pick one. You can't be big and sorry.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Right, yeah, you gotta have one small and sorry. You
can be big and good. You can be old, but
you can't be so you gotta pick one. You can't
be both b onfl both he both he big and
sorry for no reason.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
How you go out? How you go out, you go
to the grocery store with your wife or your girlfriend.
How you go get games?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
In public?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Has I know damn well? And nobody ever told him
this year good game? They lied? If they did, you
go into hells If you told that man, good game,
you lied to his face.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And he know it.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Everybody know when they played like some stir fry m.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
I mean, he's probably he's probably not playing with confidence
right now. He's probably not playing in the fact that
and if there was an altercation and you get into
it with your quarterback where your quarterback has to address
you know, you not doing well in the game, that
that that will hurt your confidence even more.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
They putting their helmet in my back. That hurting me.
He should have suck start kick, you know he should
did when he been up with Lamar, walked up, go
up from the center, kicked him in his tail.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, you know that really happens too.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
You never see a quarterback really chastise this office the
line when they get hurt. That that really really happens,
No matter how many times it gets sacked, to get hit,
that really happens. So the fact that Lamar had to
be really frustrated, really frustrated from the even addressed end game.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Because guess what.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
How many times have Lamar, because normally quarterback saying come on, guys,
we got to do better than this now, yeah, yeah,
how many times during the course of this year chat
do you think Lamar jacket and saying, come on, guys,
we need to pick it up.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Hey, come on, hey, come on, come on, hold on, what.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is Dave Mills?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
What's the name.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Daniel? Come on dad? Hey, come on, we Hey, we
gonna get it. We're gonna be all right, come on dad,
were gonna get a We're gonna be about Lamar, know
we not this man gonna get me killed? What they
shouldn't do. Lamar say, you know what, I will go
play guard and I want you to play quarterback, and
I'm gonna do to you what you've been doing to me.

(41:06):
I ain't gonna block a damn soul and I want
him to tell your ass up. We had that halfway.
As a matter of state. Guard didn't miss the bottom
of coase. I tell you what, Hey, you get here,
you get there literally how you see how you like it?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Mm hmm, that's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
At some point in time, you know what, at some
point in time you say, you know what, damn this?
You not finna whip my ass all day every day.
Don't you got something.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Forgetting the raven?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
What about that name of the back that was.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Sharply and darkening? You don't gonna know what this is?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Put me in witness that ain't me, man, that you
said you seven and seventh? Now da ain't me?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's on that's on film. Everybody can see that.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Lord, Like when when when all the teams you get
to play, all the teams you get to play? Oh yeah,
when we line up, we run our ts and our
stunts right there, right at seventy fiven.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
That's the fish.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Everybody got a fish on offense, fish on defense. Everybody
has a weak link, and the week link offensively is
young bull. I mean that's that's that's I mean that
every team has one. It just so happens. His is
very glaring and it's noticeable every fing game, every game.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know what it deals with? Yo, cat, y'all been fishing.
When you get a fish, when you get him on
the line.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
What you can't do? Ojo?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Let him about the hook.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't, Jo.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I don't want to beat him too bad early because
I don't want to get it benched. Because see, if
I beat him too early, gonna bitch it. See, I'm
away to the right time. I'm waiting to get to
the four quarter. That's what I'm really start tearing his
ass up.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I know, I know them more frustrated, Man, I.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Frustrated, and I ain't got you in twenty years and
oh Joe, it was the twenty fifth anniversary of the
Super Bowl team. They gotta let him in. Checkings out there.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
You know, if I'd have been down and ran in
the field, you, I'd have ran out there with you.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
You terrible?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Why why you ain't go?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Uh? Long story, I explained it to you a MANO. Yeah,
this is why I couldn't coach.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Well, actually, wait a minute, wait a minute, and now
I see that that's one thing about it. Now, God
always has a call in huh, And most of the
time he had knocked on your door. In the fact
that you don't answer the door, maybe that's the problem.
The fact that maybe if you were coaching, if you
were coaching the Baltimore Ravens day, it wouldn't be playing
like this. He probably wouldn't be playing like this. If
hearing it from you would register better than hearing it

(44:09):
from who his coach, whoever his coach is right, he heard.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
It from Lamar.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
It's too late to hear from that we Chad.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Let me tell you something, in all my years, rarely
never single out any offensive lineman individually. He always does
it as a group. Come on, guys, we gotta do
better than this. Come on, guys, we gotta pick it up.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
I'm just saying if you was my coach when I
was playing, I would I would listen to you. I
probably wouldn't have had no celebrations. I would have hand
the ball right to the riff. I'm lying, uh.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Me, I'm a coach, John him. I said, look at sir,
I don't know what's gonna happen. I really don't. But
I did make a recommendation that we cut you just
so we clear. That's my recommendation. Hey, hold on, I

(45:26):
recommend Yeah, that's what I recommended. I don't know what's
gonna happen, because it's it's out of my hands. But
I did recommend this morning that we cut you.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
It ain't that many good.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
He ain't one of them. So you're right, you're right,
you're right, person, brocas person broadcast. Lamar threw his helmet
down after the last offensive series and then had a
conversation with Daniel Fillele, who said, they know it's coming
every time. What, oh, Joe, you got two options on

(46:09):
the football field as an offense. You can run it
or you can throw it. So they got a fifty
to fifty tence So guess what the hell you're gonna do?
What you mean, it ain't rocket science. Yeah, if it's
first second or third down, what the hell you think
they're gonna do. Oh they might put it, Oh they
might let Lamar tick it off. They gonna throw it,
or they're gonna run it. Those are the only two

(46:30):
choices that an offense half on first second or third down.
And he's gonna talk about they know what's coming.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
That all come down to want to, That all come
down to want too. Even if you know what's coming.
Even if you know what's coming, you ain't finna get
past me. If you do sack Lamar, if you dig
it if you do get to Lamar, it ain't gonna
be on me. It's not gonna be my fault. I'm
definitely not gonna be the reason. I will never be

(47:01):
the problem. I will always be the solution. I mean,
that's just that's everybody's built different mentally. That's my mentality.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I'm just saying, if I played off as a line, oh,
I'm not gonna be the problem.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
First of all, if he's a solution, what's the problem?
If he to answer, what's the question?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
It ain't that many. It ain't that many linemen on
the You can't just pop them off trees like that.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
They're alignment worse than what he is. It's hard for
me to believe that on y'all. I refuse to believe that.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Well, you can't hide him, No, you can't hide him.
You can't hide him most of the time of the
other players, other teams, the where they're structured. You can
hide your fish. You can hide your fish, you can
hide your weak link. You know, you can help your
weak link double team. You know, run away from him

(48:01):
when you do throw have protection, slide his way.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I mean, it's just eugh.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
There was a crowd of reporters waiting for Daniel filtyl
a locker, but the media policy is general not to
talk to players before they're fully dressed. For La La
with shirtless, took his shirt in his hand, nodded to
the reporters, walked off. He did not return for questions.
Let me ask you a question, O Joe, they win
that game, you think he does this?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
No, probably not, probably not.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
But he understanding the questions that were gonna come, especially
with the incident with Lamar, he didn't want to say anything.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Gotta be as gracious in defeat as you are in victory.
M That's a part of it. Nobody is gonna win
every game. Nobody is gonna play great every game. But
a part of being a pro is standing there and
facing the very tough questions. But see when they ran
for three hundred yards? He answered, he stood, yeah, and

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look down the battle of it. Couldn't Hey, anybody else
got it?

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Thing they want to ask, and you know what, I'm
kind of glad, honestly, especially when it comes to lineman,
you get into a few rich a quarterback, you guys
have a disagreement on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I'm glad he didn't answer. Any questions, because it ain't
no telling what he might have said.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
He might not be media savvy, he might still have
been angry. He might have said the wrong goddamn thing.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Short of him said I sucked today. I ain't want
to hear nothing he had to say. If that was
the first day he came out of his mouth, and
it's okay, oh yo, hey guys, today wasn't my day.
I gotta be better. I was not good enough today.
And although we are a team and we lost the
other team, I have to be better individually. It's okay

(49:48):
to say that. It really is. It really is okay
to say that I've been the guy. You know what.
He we win other team, we lose as a but
Shannon Sharp has to be better. I'm counted on to
make the plays that I left on the field today.
I'm counted on to be a leader. I didn't lead today.

(50:10):
I didn't make plays today. That's on me. I'll be
better next week. That won't happen again. It's okay, oh Joe,
It's okay to not have it, to not be good
on a particular date. It's gonna happen to everybody. But
a part of being a professional. A part of being

(50:31):
a pro because he's a professional football player. A pro
is when things don't go your way, you still look
down the aisle of that camera and when they asked,
you answer every question that they asked.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
What happened out there today?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Guy? That was a rough one on me today. I
wasn't good enough. I've got to be better. My teammates
are counting on me. Lamar's counting on me, the fans
are counting on me. And I promise you I'll be
better next week. What happened nothing? You beat me today.
I just didn't have it. I know I gotta get better.
I don't have any I can't tell you anything specifically

(51:08):
that they did. It was what I didn't do. Yeah,
I was lunging. I wouldn't do my steps wasn't proper.
I stepped underneath. It's okay, bro, it's okay to have
a bad game, but don't run. Don't run because if
y'all had rush for three hundred I guarantee you you

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wouldn't have grabbed your tea, You grab your shirt and
nodded that of the camera. You to talked, So you
got to talk and defeat, just like you would in victory.
That's what makes us pros. We don't hide, we don't run,
we don't tuck our tails when things don't go our way. Yes,

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lamar stood right there.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Bravy y'all.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Tomlin's tenure the Pittsburgh is under microscope this week and
would have gotten only words had they lost to the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh yo.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yo. Does them winning this game today? Does that cut
down on the rumors that Mike Tomlin or the Steelers
got to make a decision on Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin
going somewhere else? Does he want to go somewhere else?
Do they wanted to go somewhere else? Do you think
that well the noise of what's going on in Pittsburgh, na.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
I think once a rumor like that starts, you always
know that rumor always comes from somewhere. I think regardless
of what they do, I think they're probably gonna move on.
It's been a very long time since they've moved on
from a coach. Most of the time they allow their
coaches to leave on their own. But for a rumored
like that to start, it has to come from somewhere,
and it came from in that building. It came from
in that building. So I think once the rumor starts

(52:51):
and that five gets the burning, I don't think there's
anything that they can do collectively as a group or
Mike Tomlin as a head coach that would change the
decision that they go to make at the end of
the season.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I think they're gonna allow him to, uh, leave.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
It in his hands to say I'm stepping down, I'm
stepping away from here for the foresee of the future,
and we're gonna go in a different direction. I think
they're not going to fire him. I think he's going
to probably step away and let him go go out
on his own, on his own win.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I don't think me personally, oo look and coach Tomlin. Look,
I think it's gonna be hard for him to step
away for them to fire and if he wins the division,
make the playoffs. But you got to understand, Ojo, they
haven't won a playoff game and it'll be a decade.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, what makes you think they win one now?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
And how many how many games? How many playoff games
have they won since they won that Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I know they lost.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I know they lost one year to their Patriots in
the AFC Championship. Game. But how many playoff games since
they won that Super Bowl? Oh, Joe, they beat the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I think that was in Tampa.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, I'm not sure how many they won so far.
I think they haven't been since sixteen twenty sixteen. I
think that might have been time.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
But I don't think they won more than two or
three playoff games since they won that last Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, but it's hard.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay and
then they went to the championship game.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I guess the Patriots. What year was that? Okay, you know.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Where where Mike Tomlin kind of messed up where he
would be okay if he had drafted a quarterback and
didn't worry about Ben Roethlisberger Ben Roethlisberger's feelings.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Drafted the quarterback early.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
He didn't, and you wouldn't have been you wouldn't have
been searching for him right now because not having a quarterback,
he's put you behind the eight ball and having to
search and search and search. And that's one of the
reasons why you haven't had success you wanted to, because
you haven't found a quarterback yet.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
That's where Green Breys has prosperity. Because Green Bay was
unafraid to piss the quarterback off. Brett Fahr was pissed.
He was pissed to the highest pistivity that they drafted
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers was even higher. And they say,
you know what, you better be pissed off and pissed on.
So guess what keep it moving? You got, Oh Joe,

(55:27):
you cannot wait till the bridge. You got to start
trying to repair it, because if you wait till the
bridge collapse, it's too late. We saw what happened with
the Dolphins when they didn't have adequate replacement for Dan. Yeah,
we see when they let these quarterbacks ride on the
vine and they're afraid to upset their feelings. Well, I
don't want to bring anybody bro okay, but when he leave,

(55:50):
then what you're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Yeah, you're stuck.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
You're stuck.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
And they've been stuck for a while ever since Big
Ben is gone.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
The Lions defeat the Cowboys and pretty much dimmed any
light or any hope possibility there was gonna be a
playoff run for the Cowboys this year, by the score
of forty four to thirty. Jared Goff was twenty five
or thirty four three hundred and nine yards and a touchdown.
Jamier Gallbs had three rushing touchdowns. David Mntgomery had another

(56:24):
one and a couple of field goals as they win
this thing by the score of forty four to thirty.
Dak Prescott was thirty one and forty seven three seventy six,
one touchdown to interception. He was sacked five times. They
ran the ball twenty four times for ninety one yard
ceed Lamb left the ball game after taking a vicious hit.

(56:45):
He went up to catch a pass. His head hit
the turn. That was the first thing that hit ho Jo,
and I knew he wasn't coming back because you saw
the rig of mortars, the stiffness of that hand. It
was a no go. Although he possibly wanted to come back,
that wasn't gonna happen. Ryan Flinore came in and he
had nine for a buck fifteen. So again the Cowboys
have two receivers over one hundred yards, but it wasn't

(57:05):
enough to overcome the onslaught that the Detroit Lions put
on them tonight, and again it was their defense that
let them down. In the three game winning streak, Oho
they were middle of the pack. We know what they
were before that winning winning streak. They were almost at
the very bottom. They were thirty first and yards allowed
and points allowed.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
They kind of.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Reverted back to what they were in the past, and
they caught up with them again tonight. And so the
Lions win keep their playoffs hopes alive and them possibly
any chance the Cowboys had. Let's see, if the Cowboys
can win out, there's still a chance. They got four
games left. Can they win out and catch the Eagles
or somebody else in the playoffs? Will It remains to

(57:44):
be seen, but oh shoe the Cowboys in order. And
I think the Cowboys have a good team, but they
got to get some better defensively. They've got to get
better defensively.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
And now I was just gonna say that defensively they've
been playing good. Huh, they they've been.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
They've been playing good defensively. But see, and games like this,
this is one of those games where when they needed
it most and they had to have it where they
actually had the opportunity despite having two turnovers obviously you
know you paid double for those. Despite having two turnovers,
you had a chance to come back in the game,
but you weren't able to stop them, stop him on
defense when you actually needed it. And for the Lions,

(58:20):
I'm not even giving credit to the goddamn offense. I
know the offense scored forty four points to Night. I
know they scored forty four, but that goddamned defense on't
Muhammad played very very well. He had three that yep.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
And I'm not sure what the offense. I'm not sure
what the Cowboys office was doing.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Understanding that if you have anything over three step drop
when for Dak you have to chip and help the
goddamn tackles out.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
You got to help the tackles out because in space
one on one they're getting beat every goddamn time.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It seems like they were doing that with Hutchinson, but
they forgot about Muhammad on the other side because if
you noticed, though, yo, they were doing a lot of chip,
a lot of doubling on Hutcherson.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
But they would even mohammed single and that and that's
what he should do.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
But but for me, the defense, they nick, look, hey
Cowboy fans, uh, I want to know did Quinny Williams
or Kenny Clark did they play to Night? Because y'all
had to say. Y'all had a lot to say to
me and Oho a couple of weeks ago. Oh, I
thought you said this trade wasn't gonna help. I thought
you trade say this trade wasn't gonna do nothing. We
don't need Michael. Now, I want you to tell me

(59:26):
the cowboy defender that got twelve and a half sacks.
I want you to tell me the cowboy defender that
demands a double team. They do realize that Michael Parson
leads in double teams. He's at the third. He, Miles Garrett,
and uh DJ Watt are like one, two three chips.
So I want to know what defensive player that you

(59:46):
got that commands a double team. And you can say,
you know what, Hey, he can double, So that means
somebody else gonna eat. Tell me the guy, because I'm
looking at the sants. I'm looking at all these guys,
and if I didn't know better, if I didn't see
it with my own eyes, I would swear Quinny Williams
I was working with Kenny Clark, did play tonight, y'all?
Keep Oh Joe darn blayd ain't the same? Did you

(01:00:07):
see did you see Gibbs shake him on the side.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Well wait, but you know what, you know what happened
right there?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Yeah about taking up for him, but you understand right there,
the sideline is your friend. If the side line is
your friend, and you know that, you come under control
and stay to stay to its inside shoulder. Why why
are you running full speed trying to tackle somebody that
you know is shifted and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
You already know Gibbs got more move than a thousand
dollars hooks, So you know he goes, Oh Joe, you
already know this. He shook him so bad. Oh Joe,
he shook him so bad he just laid on the
ground bound. Chat. Y'all saw it, cha if I'm lying?
If I'm lying, Lord, take it right now. Y'all saw
what he did. Pretend like when you see it, but
we saw.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Listen, car the rule number one. As a defender. I know, listen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
I know I don't play defense, but even I know
you got to come to balance the shifting the player is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
You got to come to balance, you know, and you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Take away the angle. The sideline is your friend right there.
For dron Bland, you don't. You don't running there hauling
ass out of control. You go, You're gonna lose that
every time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Oh Joe, you want to talk to you want to
talk to the Lions defense. How many times did Ceedee
Lamb spin out?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
You know that's move.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
You know Cede Lamb gonna spin out and come back
inside and they overrun it every time? Yeah, I just
I think the Cowboys have the look. I know you
saw this when they kicked that field goal. They got
mad at George. They got mad at George Pickens. They
took him out on the drive to that that what

(01:01:43):
you call him leonoid and scoring because Pickings loafed on
the rout and back threw it to him and that
was looking like what are you doing? And that next
drive they came in, they went down to score in Florida,
Pickings didn't see the field. Now, he has a tendency.
He's been great, so smart. He has a tendency too
when he doesn't get the ball or things not going
well for him, he has a tendency to drift. He's

(01:02:06):
been sensational. And I if they had won this game
tonight without CD and with would pick being somewhat quiet, man,
I had to put that way way on up. I
had to put Dak. I might have put Dak in
take a place because to do what he.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Did, man, he made Flannoy like, hold on you many
tell me, yeah, listen, no disrespect to Illinois, but you
know it's easy when you one on one one CD
went down. You know what the game plan is from
that point on. Hey, we're gonna shell, We're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Gonna we're gonna shall, We're gonna two, we're gonna fifty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
God damn, wherever three go, wherever three go. Were putting
two on him, it don't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
We could pay underneath, we could play over the top.
We got to make sure he's not getting the ball.
And I think probably I'm not sure what covers it
if it was when he did loaf, but Dak was like, listen,
I'm coming to you anyway, I'm coming anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah. And right before the half, O Joe, uh tesla,
he had it, but what you gonna had already made
it with mind and he was throwing his ball out
of mind the same time, Oh Joe, he cooked thirty four.
I don't know thirty four name, I don't remember, O Joe,
but he had it beat so back. I'm like, bro,
how you get beat on. Boy, they might have cut
you on the sideline if you gave up a touchdown,

(01:03:17):
O Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
On a second half?

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Yeah, oh my, especially that in that situation is all
about situation awareness.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Keep everything in front of you, keep everything in front
of you. Make the chap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That's simple. But I don't, oh Joe, I don't understand.
I mean you, I mean when you go on the field,
you kind of understand as an offensive player. Okay, do
we have timeouts or do we not have time hoss?
What's most important is an extra three yards more important
of preserving the clock. Preserving the clock obviously, excuse me,

(01:03:49):
it's more important because we don't want to burn our
time outs until we absolutely positively have to. So you
understand that. So you understand where we are in the field.
Where do we need to get? Okay, hey, where do
we need to get? This? Are the field goal or
do we need a touchdown? Because my mind is like,
even though we might need to get the position on
the field for a field goal, my mind is touched
down because I don't want to leave it up because

(01:04:09):
so many things A miss snap or he hook it,
he shank it, it gets blocked.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
So if we put the ball in the ends on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I'm not a worried about the kicker unless he bringing
his ass on the field to kick a pat as
a defensive t As a defender, Joe, you got to
understand the situation. Okay, we're up nothing cheap, nothing deep. Okay,
if they get a first down, we're gonna make them
get five, six, seven first down. But what I'm not
gonna give you is a chunk plate. I'm not gonna

(01:04:36):
give you. Let you allow you to get what you
need is like six first down. I'm not gonna allow
you to get four of those in one plate. I'm
not gonna let you throw this ball over my plate.
I'm keeping everything in front of me. But I don't
think enough enough guys have understanding what they call situational awareness.
You gotta play situation of football.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
And not only that that has to be talked about.
Understanding the situation at hand. Someone has to say something.
Someone on the on the sideline has to communicate that
this is what we're gonna do based on the time,
and if the coaches don't say it, at least the
players got to have some type of situational awares.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
In situational awareness, and knowing what we have to do
in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Hey, I was always the guy A guys a first down,
first down, get out of bounds. We only got one
time out, we got two timeouts. We have no timeouts. Guys,
get out of bounds. Don't fight for xt yards because
the last thing you want to do, oh joy, is
by for xt yards and then somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Ripping out or that clock keep going and you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You can't say no, get your ass, get your ass
out of bounds. At at this point in time, the
clock is our enemy. The team is not our enemy
the clock, because a lot of times you just run
out of time. If we'd had ten more seconds, we
had twenty more seconds. Well let's just make sure the
clock remained our friend and we get out of bounds
and we can get to stop it every time. But
look when I look at the Cowboys, now, everything is

(01:05:54):
really contingent on being able to keep CD. But oh Joe,
they got some issues on defense. They got some issues
on defense. They don't rush the passer well enough, they
don't that touchdown that the Gibbs got an end?

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Oh sure that was too easyel what a fucking Mikey.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
What was I don't know what guard had to pull
and lock him up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
That's the only way that was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
If I'm not mistaking, I think that was the center
that pulled Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Make it like that if the Senate does.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
If the Senate does pull and grab the backer, the
safety got the feel right away.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
But it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
It wasn't nobody over there but thirty four. So you
so let me get this straight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I got a center or guard, and I got Dremier
Gibbs with the guy with the defender in between me
and Gibbs. I like that matchup. I like I like
my chances of getting that ball in the end zone. Ye,
but they got some oh yoll, they have some issue
they got to address. Jerry, you can't fool yourself. Yes,
you guys had four hundred plus yards, but you gave

(01:06:57):
up four hundred yards and you gave up forty four points.
Had you not blocked the kitchen, that gave up forty seven,
you gave up forty seven points.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
And you know, they played good. The past few weeks,
though on the defense has been the talk of the town. Obviously,
the offense is playing good, but the defense has been
the talk of the town. The defense gave those of
the Cowboys fans.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
It gave us hope.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They even they even gave me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Hope the way they was looking. And it's because the
team is built to play with the lead. That defense
built when the Cowboys have a lead and they can
just pin their ears back and go. Because now put
you put the other team in a one dimensional situation,
I have to throw the ball. I can't do nothing
else because I got to get myself back in the game. Now,

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what they were able to do against the Eagles when
they were down twenty one zero, that was phenomenal. In
order to be able to come back from twenty one
down are a three score deficit, you got to play
good defense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
They showed up in that game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
But the difference is we already know. They knew the
Eagles was gonna get conservative. The one thing you know
about Detroit, they not gonna get conservative. Now, I thought
they got a little conservative on They ran the ball
twice into the line and then Golf dropped back. It
hit Almon Ross Saint Brown on the crossing route and
you know he almost split it. But Golf had nine incompletions.

(01:08:23):
He really should have had eight because he hit Armond
Robb between the one and the four and dropped it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I don't know what he was thinking. I don't know
if Amrod didn't think you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Was gonna tight end the tight end flash before him.
I think they was in the wrong place.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I think it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Wasn't that all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I think that was Jamison that was a little higher
the same.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
And it seemed like as soon as armor Rod got me,
because you know it's coming because the back the back
of just going to the other he don't really know.
So as soon as you get behind behind that backer,
the ball's coming. And it was almost like the ball
surprised him. It's like the ball was on his way.
And when he got behind got from.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Behind the backer, it was the funny thing about it.
I think he saw Jameo at his peripheral vision. It
was like, well, wait a minute, now, am I running
the wrong route?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Or you running the wrong route?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
And it threw him off and and for the Cowboys
don't And I think because the Eagles are playing so
bad right now, I think the Cowboys are gonna be okay.
I think the Cowboys are gonna be okay, but they're
going to have to win out. They're gonna especially with
the schedule that they have left, it's winnable. It's winnable,
especially the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Way that office is playing. Uh is contingent on how
long Seed Lamb is out. I'm not sure he's gonna
have to go to concussion protocol because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Oh he ain't concussion protocol. But they get a week.
They play next Thursday, the Thursday, that time he got time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Who they got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
But boy, they're gonna they're gonna be cautious, O Joe,
because you see that that ain't no thing. That isn't
no thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Oh Joe, I got Dan, and you know I was
able to get up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Boy a when that brain, when that brain does that,
that brain really hit up against that skull, they're gonna
be ex Look, I understand, and Jerry, they're gonna want
him to go. But boy, you don't want to be
you don't want to be fooling with a concussion like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
That on you right, you're right, you're right, you're right,
you're right. I mean listening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
But I knew the moment when I saw the replay
and I saw his head the first thing to hit.
I saw he done. He ain't coming definitely, definitely. He
ain't coming back in this one. But the Cowboys. Look
the Cowboys offense, they're gonna look. I like Javonte Williams. Uh.
The offensive line, okay, the tackles a little, that's not
the starting left tackle that's normally there. Uh, still has

(01:10:28):
play and still didn't play bad. I thought he did
a pretty good job with the exception of a few
players where Mohammad Muhammad got through. But oh Joe, they
got to get better defensively, they got to they got that.
They've got to try to find a premium pass rusher.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Oh whoa, it's too it's too late to find anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
No, no, no, no, general, I'm already talking about I'm
already talk about i'malking about a talk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
About this year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Hell, ain't nobody that can get Ain't nobody they can get.
Uh maybe Trey Hendrickson maybe, I mean he's of a
I mean, I don't know. Maybe the Steelers winning to
go get off TJ Watt. Uh, But they've got to
do something. And they still have draft capitol. They still
have a first round draft pick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Uh. They still have some pieces that they can possibly move,
But they got to get better. Defensively, Oh Jo, because
what you just.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Said right there too, I like I like that. Let
that marint it a little bit. Cowboys fan, what do
you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
T J.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Watt to the Cowboys that that'd be nice. That's a
nice little piece.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
I'm not sure if if that's that's something that is feasible,
you know, because you know you got to pay for
that now that ain't that ain't just know anybody we
talk about a future Hall.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Of fame where they got they got a first round
draft pick, they got they got an extra pick from
the Green from the Packers, so it's it's still a possibility.
So you know, a draft pick, maybe it takes a
first and a fourth, but to get a premium a
guy that you have to account for. Now, Clowney hurt
them out to being out tonight. You know, he had

(01:11:58):
an hamstring injury and is reported that he warmed up
before the game and he wasn't able to go because
there have been times that Clowney has been playing really
well offensively. I think they're good, I really do. I
think they're set. I love Ferguson. I like Ferguson when
they had dn't jokes and I remember having a conversation
with Skip. I said, Skip, Ferguson is better than it's
better than Shows, and he proved that to be now

(01:12:20):
Shows is not a bad guy. But he proved that
he was uh and the Cowboys went with him and
gave him a long term deal. But everything is contingent
on George Dickens. If you know, it doesn't matter what
you do because CD is not enough by himself. You
put CD in Pickings and Ferguson together with Javontae Williams.
That offensive line is good enough. He's not great, but

(01:12:41):
it's good enough. But oh Joe, I don't care how
great your offense is. With that defense, you can't give
up for the course. You can't give up what they
give up. And it is too easy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
I thought Blair and I thought Bland. Yeah, Joe Blad been.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Getting work this year. I think they're gonna move on
from Diggs. I think he wants to move on. I
think they want to move on. Maybe a change of
scenery will do well for both guys. They need a play,
They need a linebacker. Wilson is not the answer. Murray
is not the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
I look.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I think the d tackles are good, like you know,
I don't know if you're gonna keep a Ziggie. I
don't know if you're gonna keep all three of them, Ziggy,
Kenny Clark, and Quinny Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I don't know if you're gonna keep all three of them.
But I think they're very good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
But you need a guy that can, Hey, you need
to hear raised on that edge that somebody's gotta account
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I'm not saying you got to have a Miles Garrett,
but you have to have a tier A Tier two guy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Miles Garrett is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
In a tier box basically basically.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
But they but they told me, oh, Joe, I mean,
Jared said he didn't need Michael. That's what Jared said.
Jared convinced the fans. The fans even started talking bad
about Michael most definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
You know, anyone that's a part of that that the
Cowboys organization, anyone that's a loyal fan, they will always
see and find the wrong, the wrong or that on
the right and agreeing with the owner who owned the
team that they support, instead of actually using common sense
and understanding how great that player is even when things
don't go right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Making excuses.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Well, he wasn't able to do this, you know, Jerry saying, well,
we weren't able to We weren't able to win with him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Quinn Waive had what he had, four tackles words, Kenny Clark,
Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark, Clinny Cark, Clintic Cark Clinton, Kenny
Clark had three tackles.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
But one sack. Oho, you got it, you got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
First of all, you already know, Oh Joe, you already
know Jared Goff is a mobile.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
You got to get him off that spot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
You can't let him just let his back put hit
and throw it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
He Gonnai.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
If anybody was gonna get him off the spot, if
anybody was gonna make him uncomfortable, it would have been
young young bull.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
God damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
It's hamstring. It's hamstring. Uh clown Clanny Cline was hurt
to night. And I don't want to be disrespect mum.
Say he's their best, their best pass rusher, but he's
been the most consistent, maybe not getting sack at least
adding pressure on downs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It mattered most. Yeah, you're right, you're right, and uh
tonight it didn't happen. And uh look you obviously you
you you're gonna play extremely hard. But but this one hurt.
This one, this one hurt Ojo, This wouldn't really hurt

(01:15:30):
because you really, you really could have put some pressure
on the Eagles and a lot of other teams.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
In the NFC, most definitely. How bad do you think
it hurt them? Being that other?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Oh? They well, they got a five percent chance. Let's see, uh,
the Eagles, because here's the how many how many? The
Eagles have eight wins? So cowboys the Cowboys. Uh, theoretically
they still could catch the Eagles within the vision. They

(01:16:03):
went out and the Eagle go to and two.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Hey, I don't see the Eagles continue to play bad though.
For some reason, I just don't I see them even
though we're in week fourteen, fifteen, I don't even know
what got damn week we in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I see them turning around and making the plays offensively
and defensively when it matters most defensively. They didn't look
they didn'tok, they didn't look too good last game. They
look good too, But how long is that going to
that going?

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Well? You know what comes out right? You know, Carter's out,
he had he had on his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
That that back that back end, it's solid though, even
even Carter being out the back end, it's solid.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Who got even got next?

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
But oh Joe, I will say this, I don't know
if I've ever seen a call what Ferguson got called for.
I've never seen that call before. So he just swim through. Yeah,
all you do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Referee looking at I don't know in order when you
change in direction.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
The Eagles have the Chargers on Sunday, goodness, and they
still I don't they have the Commanders again, and they
have the Giants again. Right, they have the Commanders twice. Okay,
they got the Commanders twice, and they got the Raiders, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
That's a win.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
The Charges is a very good game. You're gonna have
to put some points out. You got to put some
points out. Mm hmm, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
It's and then you got two Commanders and the Raiders, I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Mean the Commanders is Jamie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And you got the Bills, and the Bills gotta fight
hard because they're three they're two games, three games right
now behind behind the Patriots. They lose another game, the
likelihood have been wearing that division. So they gotta fight
for a winning card. So they're trying to They're trying
to do everything they possibly can. I, like I said,
I just the call that would look I didn't think

(01:17:58):
the game was officiated, will I mean pick can't get that.
I mean Pick, I get you go get his face.
But you gotta let it go. Oh Joe, you gotta
let it go. Oh Joe, you out here like this
here you got the man man oo. Everybody can see this.
You're all extended the man head down.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Dang.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Yeah right, you gotta like you gotta make that quick.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Yeah, if anything, open that thing up like this, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Let it go. Yeah. Hey, but herabbed it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
So uh but uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I thought Dad was playing well, considering that he lost
Ceede Lamb and he was under the rest of the
entire night. He got out of some stuff because I
thought had him dead to ride a few times. But
he was able to keep himself alive and make some
plays down the field. But defensively, you can't give up
forty four points. You give him forty four There are
not very many games that you're gonna win giving up

(01:18:55):
forty four points, especially if your offense turns the ball
over twice, because that's two possession that's two possession that
you don't get any points out of it.

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