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October 14, 2025 74 mins

Join Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson as they recap the best NFL stories of Week 6 of the 2025 NFL including Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeating Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeating the San Francisco 49ers, Jaxson Dart and the New York Giants upsetting Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles, and much more! 

00:00 - Chiefs Def. Lions11:53 - Bucs Def. 49ers (Baker MVP?)22:11 - Broncos Def. Jets38:57 - Giants DOMINATE Eagles

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, is your favorite sports thunk here.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Cry o Jo.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
The Chiefs beat the Lions thirty seventeen. After the game,
cameras called Brian Branch refusing to shake Joe Patrick mahomes
hand and then.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Shove Juju shoots Juju in the phase. Yeah, the start
of brawl.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Patrick Mahons threw for two hundred and fifty seven yards
three touchdown, ran for another score. Hollywood Brown had his
best game as a Chief two touchdowns. Looked more like
Mahomes of Oh, the Chief's offense is starting to get
back into gear and starting to look like the Chiefs
offense that we're used to see him When Patrick Mahomes
basically started in what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and ran

(00:53):
that thing all the way until like twenty three. This
is the offense that we expected to see. You were
thirty two fifty seven, three touchdowns. They ran the ball
twenty nine times for one hundred and twelve yards. Really good,
no turnovers, This clean game from my homeboy. Oh Joe
looking at We're getting to Detroit. Talk about them in
a minute. What did you like about what you saw

(01:14):
from Kansas City?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean the fact that we see in the early
Chiefs that we all used to love. We're seeing the
Chiefs that scored damn their twenty eight thirty points a game.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You had receivers. It was by committee. You never knew
who night he was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
So obviously now when you play the Chiefs and you're
going in and you're studying, you're going from game to.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Game, you don't know who the night is gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Tonight it was Hollywood Brown, last week it was it
might have been Jusual, it might have been Taekwan Thornton.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So the fact that they're also being able to establish
the run, to balance the offense out, to keep everything honest,
especially defense, because you don't know what's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
That's the great thing for the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
And the fact that Patrick Mahons was playing so well,
he played a clean game as well, playing a game and.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Then being able to play defense on the back end.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Insistently against a great offense, a great creative offense that gain.
I'm sure that Dan Campbell is responsible for. It is
a really good game. Obviously, the Chiefs defense and offense
has been up and down, which is something It's been
some slippage, something that we talked about earlier in the
season and where we thought they really weren't gonna be
the same, especially coming out of the gate zero and two.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And look, we we we we are in week six.
We're in week six. Yeah, I hear.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Everything looked completely different than the conversations we had just
previous week, the first previous week. So, I mean, what
they've been able to do in such a short amount
of time and changing everything around to everybody dropping balls,
or that they're not playing defense like they used to,
or we we we we're talking about Chris Jones not
not hustle, not having an effort, you know on certain plays,

(02:48):
to looking like they did to night is an unbelievable thing.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I think the thing is, Joe, is that, like you said,
each week is a different receiver. They really didn't use
a whole lot of twy Cowon Thornton. I didn't really
see him on the field a whole lot oho tonight.
It was all about juju. Travis Kelson had his best
game receiving of the Year Hollywood Brown. We mentioned Hollywood
Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy, but he didn't get a
whole lot of opportunities. I think if you go back

(03:17):
and look look at what they've done the past two weeks,
is that they've started off throwing the football in order
to run the football, and they stayed in front of
the sticks. This offense is predicated. As long as we
can stay in stay in thirty short thirdy manageable. Oho,
now we can run it or we can throw it.
If you go back and look, I see what they
were on third down. As long as they were manageable,

(03:41):
they were good. Well, camp City was only four to ten,
but they knew, even Dan Campbell knew normally at home
when they're clicking, you got to get to thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You can't beat this team.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You can't beat this team in Arrowhead if they're playing
good football and you don't get to at least thirty,
or you need to take the ball away. You need
to get a scooping score, you know, strip side, you
need to get a tip or camera or something. But
if they play a clean game and they're on top
of their game, you're gonna have to meet fire with fire.
And you saw early on both teams going forward on

(04:16):
fourth down because they knew kicking field goals weren't going
to win them the game.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Look last started Monday, they threw the ball early, short stuff,
get the ball out of mahomes hand. Let's try to
slow this rush down, and now we can get back
to running. And I thought they did a good job.
I thought Andy did an unbelievable job of play calling tonight,
getting the ball out of mahomes quick, hand quick.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And if you notice something, o, yoll. If we've seen
this the trans.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
The transformation over the last three years, mahomeboy ain't sitting
back there, bitch, patting the ball. He'll take off running now. Yeah,
oh yeah, absolutely, That's the only thing I would say, myhallboys.
Sometimes you got to know the journey over. Okay, now
you keep dropping that show those people. Now, I'll tell
you that people. Hey, people go hey, they're gonna drop
anchor on you. Now, catch That's what I'm saying. That's

(05:03):
what I'm saying. And you know, quarterbacks don't do a
whole lot of a lot of their shoulder work. If baned,
they not lifted, so they don't got that that that
meet up there, like like most guys have, just be careful.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
But I like the way they played tonight. They did
a great job.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I really think the turning point of this ball game,
and it wasn't you know, is that arm and Ross
Saint Brown had some of the best hands in football.
But on that fourth down, I think that was a
turn because they had great they had great rhythm, they
had great momentum, and you know that because oh Jo,
they're gonna get They were gonna get it. At worst

(05:39):
case the field goal, Yeah, now you get nothing. Now
you get nothing out of that, and Kansas City get
the ball right out of the gate.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
But uh, Detroit, Detroit didn't play bad.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they
playing to the level of that they're playing tonight, they're
gonna be hard to beat. Now, it don't matter if
they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming
to your building to steal Patrick Mahomes right.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
And obviously we saw what we saw tonight from the
Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
This is the Lions consistently.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Weekend and week, weekend and week out Nich just happens
to be one of those weeks where you're playing a team.
Now you're playing the other thirty one teams. It's not
that many teams. It's gonna come out there and put
thirty on you. No, there ain't too many.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
You got.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
You got the Chiefs, you got, maybe the Packers, you
got maybe the Bucks that have the fight. Yeah, yeah,
they have the offense to be able to kind of
points you putting up.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
You get where you have to meet fire with fire.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You have to take certain chances in certain situations because
you know, field goals is not gonna get it done,
because this team can score at will, you know, throughout
the majority of the game.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
So, I mean, we have games like this.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
You want to be as perfect as possible, and the
team that makes the fewest mistakes, whether it be drops,
whether it be interceptions, whether it be turnos, whatever it
may be, the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally
comes out on top.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And that's what we saw tonight.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties. The
Chiefs had no penalties, the Lions only had four for
thirty eight yards. So this was a barely clean game.
The refs let them play, which we like to see,
oh Jo, we liked when reffs let them play. But
we got to stop this notion. Every time the Chiefs
win it's the refs. You don't win that many games.
Ain't no way get You can get Travis Kelsey mom,

(07:23):
you can get his dad, you can get Taylor swiped,
you can get a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Ain't no way you winning just because of the officials.
And I get it.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It happens all the time. They used to say the
same thing with the Patriots. You and that's what happens
when you win a lot. People have to have a reason,
well why they win it? Instead of like, you know,
they got good players, they got a good system, they
got a good scheme, they got great coaching. We have
to have a reason why instead of just looking at
the product and looking at the players. See what has

(07:51):
happened over the last years is that people like, well,
they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes. Well, you're measuring Patrick
against this what you mentioned, everybody else at their best,
but you're measuring him at his worst. So you telling
me if Patrick mahone plays his best and another and
every other quarterback plays their best, you take that quarterback over.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
My home boy. Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
If every quarterback, all thirty two quarterbacks and everybody's healthy,
if they played their absolute best, and Patrick mahone plays
his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently
playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's how good he's been. I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
He's been in the starter for eight years and he's
never he doesn't know what it's like not to be
in an AFC championship game. In five of those years,
he's been in the super Bowl. So when you look
at it like that, and I get it, some should
we get tired?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Man?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
How many times don't yo? Have you heard let somebody
else win? How many time you heard that? Oh Joe,
I'm tired of it with let somebody else win, and
don't work like that. When I put that kind of
time in, you gonna have to beat me because I'm
just not gonna stop winning. Even when you were a
kid show, I ain't gonna let you win. No, you
gotta beat me. I'm not gonna let you win. Look,

(09:05):
I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I really don't. I think their offense is really good.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
They missed them, missed a few opportunities, had a couple
of drops, but I thought they did really well. They
didn't get I think they only got gave up one
side tonight. They were not as clean as they normally are.
Over two on fourth down. That's not the Lions. The
Lions are normally three or four on fourth downs. You
know they're gonna go for it. They're gonna put pressure
on you. You know, when you play the Lions, you

(09:30):
gotta score points. Yeah, because every every position.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
That they have is really four downs. And you don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now you like to fake like damn okay, four down,
but they might fake punch it, fake punt it.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And you see the play that they call.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But see what they didn't realize is that the quarterback
starts up for the center, he has to go get reset,
so he has to come to a complete stock.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know that I was confused on that call as well,
because most of the time I'm thinking, well, wait a minute, now,
see the Dolphins, the other team do the same thing
all the time. How you could come in motion and
he never comes to complete stop. The ball just snaps.
But he didn't start on the center exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
See I I.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Know, I didn't know that little pickle right there.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So it's a lot. It's a lot of little nuances.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's just like if two people moving at the same
time once, you're gonna have to both guys are gonna
have to come to a complete stop, or you're gonna
have two guys in motion. And that's what they got.
Ill you got an illegal motion. But I think, look,
this was a great game tonight. Obviously I would like
to see it a little closer. I was hoping Detroit
could score, maybe get an on side kick, make it

(10:37):
really really interesting.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
But give Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
When they needed to bow their backs, they bowed their backs,
and uh, that's what you want from a great team.
When it's all said and done, Kansas City is gonna
be there in the end. Ojo yeah, she writes back
this week, ojo yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Because he show is coming. He showed is coming back.
And the funny thing about it is known as he's
coming back. But as well as they played so far
without him, each week they've gotten better and better.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
And like I said, it's by committee. You don't know
what is going to have his day.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't like the fact that Taekwon Taekwon. Thornton has
such an intricate part. Nothing to all of a sudden tonight.
You know, they know the package or whatever play they
might have had for him, it just wasn't the same.
I hate when they played it.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I hate that too, because he's played so well and
he's gaining confidence, and the last thing I want to
do is to do something to suppress his confidence because
he's looking around like, what did I do this week?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, why was I not?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Because he scored a touchdown dawn there. Every week he's
played Oh Joe, and he's played extremely well. Big catch
after big catch, big play after big play. So it's
very very unfortunate. Hopefully excuse when they get into a
situation where they get him where he can come back
around and make play for him again, Oh Joe. The

(11:57):
Bucks beat the forty nine Ers thirty to nineteen. Baker
threw two touchdown passes and had a spectacular scramble. Fans
serenaded him with MVP chance and many were still hailing
Baker as he left the stadium. The injury riddle forty
nine has lost four time All Pro linebacker Fred Warner
to an located right ankle. Kyle Shanahan said he the

(12:19):
ankle was broken and dislocated and he'll need season ending surgery.
Baker seventeen to twenty three, two fifty six, two touchdowns.
Buka left the ball game, So he's playing without his
four top receivers, Hey, Bucket Irving, his top running back,

(12:40):
and he's still doing that right now. He's the MVP
front runner. I know it's only six weeks into the season,
but it was his lose. Is his absolutely is his
to lose.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
The way Baker Mayfield is playing right now, he's playing
the best, the best football at the quarterback position with
no Mike Evans, Chris Godwin obviously, Buckie Irving goes down,
Book goes out the day with a Hampshire injury, and
he still doesn't miss a beat.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
In the past, played a couple of games without christ
Tristan Worth.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, yes, yes, the awesome, awesome, one of the better
left tackles in today's game. Well, hey, Baker Mayfield again,
situations matter. Oh my goodness, he's playing good. It's better
O yoe to let guys be themselves. I think that's
why a lot of guys have success in Baltimore. Because
they don't try to change it. Whoever you are, all

(13:34):
we want you to do is play hard. If you
like to talk, talk, if you want to be quiet, hey,
ain't nobody gonna talk to you. Whatever you like to do,
whoever you are, we want you to be more of that.
And see Baker, this is who Baker is, Tampa, say
you lead. If you want a joke, and you want
to die, and you want to dance, you want to
do he.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hold on, take off.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Did you see him after he had that scrammer run
when he escaped the pocket?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes, the sideline came back.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
When he got up. All I can think about was
when you put that goddamn flag and the.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Flag he played in the flag and the shoe.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, man, that's that's your Okay, that's the Baker Mayfield
I want to love.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Quarterback position, they have to carry themselves a certain way.
They have to be almost political robots in the sense.
He's one of the few that does not abide by
that rule.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
He's a very he's a very emotional guy. But he
can play it out, throw the football and so and
it doesn't matter who's in there. He's gonna Hey, I'm
gonna get you the football.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
He like it. Said.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Look, there are a couple of guys. Sam Donald is
in that discussion for m v P. Sam Donald is
playing extremely well. Obviously Mahome's gonna be somewhere loafer, lagging
around because I think Mahomes probably have how many touchdowns
the interceptions does Mahomes have? Ash But he's playing extremely well.
But shaking Bake, shaking, Bak, shaking, bake doing his thing.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
And and see, you know, uh, somebody that believes in you,
somebody that wants you. At the end of the day,
we all want to be wanting. Yeah, if you in
a relationship, you want your you want to know that
your partner wants to be with you.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You want I ain't saying you got to tell me
every day.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, but they got nothing to appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Man.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
You know, I'm glad you said that. And I know
we're talking football right now, and that that resonated with
me right now because sometimes we unsure, because sometimes we
have to ask, you know, yeah, excuse me, miss do
you want me?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You sure?

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I think everything is okay, Yes, you
want me? Yeah, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I'm glad you just said that, man, because sometimes fellas
at home, like if just you need to ask and
make sure you know how the bucks want. Baker Mayfield,
does your woman at home and your girlfriend or whoever
you see, and do they allow you to be yourself
so you can be your best version of you?

Speaker 4 (15:59):
You know, because when you're version of you, you get
what you get with Baker Mayfield. So if you feel
like you're in prison and you're not free, you know,
to be able to blossom and bloom like yourself, you
need to ask that question.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, okay, you just.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Wanted some Sometimes you just want to be appreciated. Sometimes
I just just tell me, say, you know what, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't tell me you appreciate me.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I just I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
You appreciate me.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, thank you. I look, I ain't big.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I'm big on affirmation mm hmm. That's my thing. Yeah,
and and and and that's that's how I operate. And Baker,
he just wanted to be appreciated. He let me, look,
I'm not gonna put you in harm's way.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah I'm not, but.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
But I'm gonna and you know, I think, look those
progressive commercials. I think the thing is with that, you know,
I think progressive is based in Cleveland. He's the quarterback
of the Browns. Now, he's basically only really commercials I see.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know what they do in local, but the
only really commercials that I see nationally is the Heisman House.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
You see.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And he does a great job. Those guys. I mean
that's a family, that's a brotherhood. Uh, there's only X
amount of those guys that they do a great job.
But I think he's really focused. You know, he doesn't
forget anything. Yeah, and Clive, you got rid of me?
Can you imagine letting us man? Like he went in
the MVP like y'all had the m v P. Y'all

(17:35):
had this, but y'all didn't believe in me. Y'all said,
y'all want to grown up. I guess I grew up on.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Ay.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Now, the Carolina situation, temper. I know he got mad
at Steve wils but an interim coach, if not doesn't
have any say that's temper.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, he goes to the Rams.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
We know he wasn't gonna be the Rams because Matthew
Stafford wasn't the Super Bowl so we know he wasn't
stay there. But he goes to Tampa and he gets
into a situation where you got Chris Godwin, you got
Mike Evans, you got Kate Oarton. Jason Light has done
a great job of drafting. You get Bucket, erving you
get White, you get a Mecha Booker. So he's done
an unbelievable job. But give Baker credit. He didn't complain,

(18:19):
he didn't hang his head old Paul Baker. Oh man,
I can't believe Cleveland did that to me. Yo yah yah.
He didn't do any of that. He didn't soulk, he
didn't cry. He just put hey, put his boots on,
and he went to work.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And I'm happy. I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I've been I've been wanted, Like when he was in
Cleveland when he didn't play well, I said that. But
I have no problem whatsoever giving a man, giving a
man credit when credit is due.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
His credit is.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Due, definitely due. He playing his pass off every and
you know what, every doll he's earning every.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Sin oh Baker to get him look again, get a
three year oh yoh yeah yeah, he did. He did
here in year two of a three year deal. So
they comes see I'm o beger for to get one
of the more fifty millions. Oh yeah, I'm show but
he making forty nine, he doing making thirty three. They
gave him three years by one hundred million.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Okay okay, okay, okakay.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Now need more than that because y'all see the mother guys.
I need that.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Come see me, y'all, come see me. I need that.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Uh we have. Mahomes has eleven touchdowns to two interceptions. High.
For our final segment of the evening, it's time q
in eight. Well you know what time it is? A
What time is it? Am? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
What what's be cause she just went to the airport.
So my flight at ten o'clock. So I land in
Miami at five and then I'm taking the kids at
the NBA Young Boy Concert.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Doctor Franket L. Bellaman, for the record, I have fired
my weather man. Clearly he did not see a storm coming.
Still love my cowboy. You remember say the weather man
says it's gonna be a cowboy victory. Weather man always lied.
Morny conpensations. You do or need representation that can free

(20:12):
him from Cleveland. That's the real story, not Lion's Chief.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
They got his right.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Can't nobody freeing from nowhere? Danny be no New England
Patriots fans in the chat is wild. Drake May is
playing good football. Drake May is playing great football. Morning Coffee,
Unk and Ocho read the room. We won't your door free?
What they got to do with it?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
That ain't work?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, he ain't got no parole coming up. He ain't
up for parole. GS card watching detailed service. Bengals need
Russ bad, just spend the money. Who's the tallest NFL
quarterback ever played? Uh?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I think Damn maguire.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think he was six eight and a half as
Waller was like six Yeah, but I think Damn McGuire
Mark McGuire brother played with the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Listen Flacker would just fine today for those I mean,
we lost the game, but unless you watch I watched
the whole game. I'm like, yeah, we can work, we
can work with this. There's only so much they can
put on this plate. Coming into this game, he was
only sacked one time. You expect a game like this
with with the with the with the front line that
the Packers have, you would think it would be turmoil.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
It'd be chaos. But it wasn't you know they were
There were some good some good flashes offensively.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
We're gonna be all right and you'll be able to
see him Thursday night when it's the actual only game
that's on.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Still, don't kick that out, uh, Jason Zeldorf, Justin Fields,
Aaron glam said, football back one hundred years.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Who is the most god offul quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Justin Russ Or Chad make Jake Brownie Chad's man, Jake Brownie. Well,
Jake Browning is the worst. But two of the three
gotten benched. If Justin Fields don't start playing that, he
about to make it three for three.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Oh Joe, you think well? And who's the back of
oh Tyrod Rod?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, Tyrod is definitely capable of of of of competing
and give me your chance.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I told you what.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Listen. One thing about it, the one thing about please
please don't do that. Please don't do that, y'all know what.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Because it didn't It didn't look as good as you did.
It looked like a woman with no makeup. That's that's
what the game. It wasn't pretty, It wasn't It looked
like a woman would no makeup, isn't It was an
ugly contest.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
It's nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Y'all still lost, you know what I'm saying. It was
an ugly contest and your lost, Okay. And I told
you what was gonna have? I told you, I told
you what's gonna happen. I said, Oh, Joe, they're gonna be.
They're gonna be on Justin Fields like lions on a wheelerbat.
I said, you watch what I tak.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, did you see that?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
He was right? He was right?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Did you see his stat line? And I saw go
over that line. He was nine of seventeen for forty
five passing yards. When you take away the sack yards,
he was minus ten yards passing. That is, that's the
fewest passyards in Jets history. That's the fewest allowed by
a team since nineteen ninety eight. So it's been twenty

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seven years since somebody has had a worse passing line
than what Justin Fields had today. They sacked them nine
times for minus fifty five yards. They had eighty two yards.
Let chat in an NFL game, a team had eighty
two yards of total offense in a sixty minute NFL game.

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They were two of fifteen on third down, fifty seven
yards of total offense. Jesus no discimitation back. They had
eighty two yards of total offense, nine sacks, fifteen hits,
seven tackles for losses, four passes defended, minus ten passing yards.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
This is a and I tweeted, o Yo, this is
a new low even for the Jets.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Eighty two total yards, eighty two fn yards in an
NFL game, two or fifteen on third downs, and allowed
nine sacks. This is the worst offensive performance I've seen
in a while. Not sure if it can be fixed.
This was awful and it was Oh Joe, Yeah, Ojo.
I don't think I'm breaking news. Yeah, I'm gonna be

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honest with Yojo. I don't know how well justin Field's
process is information. He freezes, he freezes. There are a
couple of times, Oh Joe, he's got to take the
flat right now, and he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh he's waiting.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yes, I don't. I don't know what it is, Oh Joe,
He's got to get out. This isn't college. In the NFL.
You must throw people open.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Tides are not. Yes, sometimes they'll blow a coverage and
you and the guys wide open.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
You could throw it to him, but nine eight and
a half times out of ten, you got to throw
guys open in this league, tis just out are too good. Yeah,
And I just don't know, and I'm watching it Ojoe
and he freezes a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's like, I'm like, bro, and I don't know. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
We we and we blame the Chicago and we said
it was ebra flus And with Pittsburgh, well he didn't
get a chance.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Now he has a chance. And I don't know what
it is, but I just know this.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
He's not processing the information as fast as he needs to.
And to be great at that position, you must process
information extremely fast. Because O Joe is happening. It's one
two three, Hey you skate one two, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
You gotta get out of that most definitely, especially with
him not really black and well for him being sacked
nine times a day. See from your point of view,
so you're able to have better contexts on why it
looked the way it did.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
You know, sit sweet and watching you know live in
person is a little different.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
You just see everything happening fast in person, don't know
why it's happening because there's no replay.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
There's nothing. There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's why I don't like watching games in the statu
because you look for the replay because I want to see.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, so I really couldn't understand. I didn't know what
is't I didn't know it was as bad as it was.
Once I saw the stat lines at the end of
the game, I saw them obviously running for his life.
I saw there there wasn't much they were able to
do offensively. You know, I talked, I talked a g
I talked AG before the game. I was like, listen,
congratulation everything you're doing. You know, let's I hope you

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guys turn this thing around and getting them boys a playing.
And hey, I guess it's just it's just wasn't the
weak not playing against that guy Damn Broncos defense.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
And you said you said what they was gonna do
and then went out there and did everything you said
it was gonna do.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
It's almost like it's almost like the Jets don't even
look like an NFL team.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Damn there they don't. Like there are times they really don't.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm like, did y'all practice, ain't no way you either
either one or t things you're not practicing or you're
practicing to be just this bad because normally people practice
to be good, you got to practice doing what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
This is this is bad. And I hated for a
G because I know a G personally. I know him well.
He's a he's a really good dude.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But he could not have gotten off to the worst
start because these guys, for whatever reason, whatever they're coaching
is not resonating, it's not getting through to them. Garrett
Wilson was asked on the site asked about this his
sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn at the end of the
first half, let's take yes, let's take a listen to

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what he had to say.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
And at the end of the first half when you
were walking off the field, is that the way they're
driving away?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
We really like?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
You know that stuff like that is just I don't know, y'all. Y'all,
I just didn't know exactly what the plan was and
and once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed.
Say that, So, yeah, how do you run a play?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is that what you meant?

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Yeah, I didn't know exactly like what the plan was.
I just I just thought we were once we you know,
converted the fourth down. I just thought we were going further,
you know, trying to make the play, and then obviously
we get to another fourth down and it's a tough
spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I
get why they did that, but in the moment, I
was just like, man, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, mm hmmm, he's speaking, he's speaking pacifics. Huh, he's
speaking pacifics.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know, Yes, I don't know. I didn't know what
they was doing. I was like, y'all just gonna let
the time run out. Ain't nobody. You're not gonna run
to play, You're not gonna even anything.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I was thinking about clock management as well, and I'm like,
why why are they letting the clock go all the
way down. Let's let's try to do something. Let's let's
do something. But obviously, you know, he's frustrated.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
He's should be. The guy was hold the guy had been.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
He was offensive rookie of the year with some very
marginal quarterbacks, and allegedly, supposedly they had supposed to have
gotten better quarterbacks. Yeah, but his stats aren't indicative of that.
So he's frustrated by that. Second of all, when you

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do what they did. It tells me you don't trust
your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Now, the only reason you would do something like that
because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that
same amount of time try to run plays and if
we got time, we're gonna call, we're gonna use our timeouts,
or we're gonna help the guys. Hope the guys can
get out of bounds. But when you just let that
amount of time just run off the clock, ain't no

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way they trust the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
You don't because that's the only reason you do a
time like that. We can't put our team. We can't
put our quarterback because the decision making is not where
it needs to be. Debate be able to put him
in situations that might not be advantageous.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
For him, because he might make the wrong decision with
the ball.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
We can't trust him to.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Make matters worse. Wilson suffered an injury to one of
his knee ligaments. And he'll have an in my eye
upon returning to New Jersey. Oh Joe, look and when
he did, and he was late with the ball, he
was all over the place. He had him on the
out and and and and he throws it behind him.
He had another guy he had, he would have had
the first down, and you know he ends up hurting

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his back and so on fourth down. They don't even
have Gary Wilson in the ball game.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I'm like, m, whatever could go wrong went wrong today.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
It went wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
But oh Joe, even the best defense attorney will struck
you at some point in time. We don't have a
winnable case at some point in time, and it's coming

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sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't I don't know how much further I can
stick my neck out for Justin Fields. I don't know, Ojoe,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
In order to have a chance on.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
In this league's thirty two teams, in order to have
a chance, I don't care who's coaching. I don't care
what you have on OFFICI line. I don't care what
you have at the receiver. I don't care what you
have on defense. In order to have a chance in
today's era of football, you got to have a quarterback.
He didn't have to be the fastest, he didn't have

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to have the best arm. He just has to be
consistent in his decision making. He has to have exquisite
anticipatory skills and being able to play play the position,
being able to process information in front of him, and
being able to do exactly what you ask of him
to make sure that offense goes whatever that may.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Be, whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I thought this to be good for Justin Fields, especially
with the signs that he showed us with the Steers
last year, Yes who leading them to a winning record
until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin. Like,
you know what if Justin Fields gets his own team,
I think he's gonna be okay because he showed flashes
of brilliants and what he could do when he's quarterback
number one. Now, your quarterback number one, you ain't got

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nobody to worry about it. You don't have nobody looking
over your shoulder, so you can actually play free. You
can get But based on the play call and some
of the things that they were doing, it's like they
don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because
they're not.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
The play calling isn't free. We have to protect our
quarterback from himself.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
So you know what we wanted to have.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
We're gonna let the clock round because we don't even
want to put him in the situation. We have to
make certain decisions because it can go wrong.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
You're right, it's bad. It's bad.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
And I know and ags like wants to show support,
But I don't know how much longer.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
That because at the end of the day, Oh Joe,
you got fifty.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Other guys in that locker room now, and I understand
the lord team that you want to have for your
quarterback and you want to show support, but you'll lose
the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys,
because they'll look like and they know, Oh Joe, you've
been in locker rooms for a long time. I've been
in locker rooms. And and maybe Tyrod, maybe it's times A.

(33:18):
Maybe you give it a couple of more games, you like, well, hey,
justin I'm sorry. We're gonna have to let let let
Tyrod have a go of this.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah yeah, see see I see if he can get
some things going.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Because this is this, this doesn't this does this is
this is terrible. Now.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Look, the Broncos defense is really really good in front seven.
Oh they quarterback you think about it, they're rotational, the
a Bonito and Cooper, they'll go a series, and then
the next they got a whole different set of lineup
and they a they got that, they gotta they got
a Nascar package that they just keep rotating them and

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they keep coming. They collapse you from the outside, and
then you got big Allen collapse in the middle. So
or and they're gonna run you into somebody. If you run,
wid got you. If you run to the other side,
Benito got you. You try to step up in the pocket,
you got Allen collapse in the pocket. So they're really good,
don't get me wrong. Now that's not a slot defense.
And Pascertained is legit. He is legit. His hands down

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the best corn in football. And he is smooth man.
He is so smooth the way he can transition.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
And he's long. Ay, he's all like this a long
and so he doesn't have to be that close to
do this or to do this.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, he's really good.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
He's so fluid.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean for someone to be as tall as he
is and to be as fluid through the hips as
he is, because bro, he backpelled and get out of
there in a hurry, and he can whip his hips
and go o.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Being raised on a farm I was in four h
went to county fairs, went to a goat show, a
cow show, and I've seen it and I've been to
the circus. I ain't never seen no ish like what
I saw with yesterday.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
You done been around a lot of football too, You nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I have, but to this today, I'm talking about, like, look,
and I've been on I'm like, damn, I'm trying to think.
I think maybe one other time that I've actually been
around and I saw the hell I was a part
of it. I think you got to go back to
ninety two and the Eagles. The Eagles beat us. I

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think they beat us thirty to nothing. I don't know
if we had fifty yards of total offense. Ravens, Yeah, no,
the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No. I was with the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
That that was so that was what thirty three years ago,
And you gotta think about it, O Joe.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
They said, the last time somebody had that fewer yards
in the passing game, that was ninety eight. That was
twenty seven years ago. So you're talking about almost three decades.
This doesn't happen often. So people, I don't want you
to think that, oh man that could. No, this does
not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered
for the quarterback and the receivers, because you can't punish

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the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers. So,
with that being said, to get a performance like what
they got today, o jo eighty two yards of total offense.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
And that's a testament of how good that defense actually is,
even with them being handicapped because of the rules.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
That's just how good they.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Are and how bad the upholding team was. It's a
combination that that too.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Hey, listen, two things can be true, and you.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Absolutely can be true. But I don't I don't know
where the Jets go. I do know, I do know
they take their ass home. And then you know, that's
a long that's a long ass flight to take an
ass whipping you.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
So do you even watch film or do you?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Hey, no, I ain't showing that.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Putting that way they put Jimmy Hoffer, what the hell,
whoever the hell that is, I'm burying that take. Ain't
nobody gonna see that. As a matter of fact, I'm
gonna suit NFL Films that they show it, you better
be glad that they got. Like remember they used to
have inside the NFL oh shoor they have the Thursday
night they have the game. But yeah, and they show highlight.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
From the game. Don't y'all show that show nothing. Don't
y'all show what a d thing? But this was this
was bad. This was bad. And and and you can lose.
You can lose. You can lose a locker room if
you're not careful.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
But also there's one thing about losing the locker room
and the coach having to make a very tough decision.
You know, for a quarterback, for a quarterback that you
can sit you at number one, a quarterback that that
that's been paid.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Is the backup? Is the backup? The answer?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Because once once you make a move in the middle
of a season like this, we're only in week six.
Once you make a move like this, you're making the money.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I think they give them a couple more weeks, so, Joe,
But if they don't turn this thing around, I can see, Oh, Joe,
if we owe and we oh and eight oh and
nine oh and ten.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
So what we try to I mean, what do we
try to do?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Because I already know a team and another team that's
in the Midwest that's trying to get the number one pick.
That's Cleveland and we're talking about them in a minute.
Or the Jets trying to get the number one pick.
O you trying to get No.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
One pick? Just stay the course.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I see where you're going.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Because that quarterback that you bring in the tie's gonna
try to win games. I'm just telling you, and I'm
not saying justin Fields isn't. So you just tell just
tell me what to do. Because here's the thing. These
other guys in the locker room, they don't care that
you're trying to build for the future. I ain't trying
to get my head split right now while you building
for the future. Damn your future. My future is right

(38:32):
now because I might not even be here when we.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Get good, which is true, which is true. And they're
gonna they're gonna be some heads rolling now. There're gonna
be some attitudes, they're gonna be some frustrations, especially from five.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
You know, Garrett Wilson, ain't finna go for that. Yeah,
we're not finna go for that.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
You paid me like the receiver that I am. Please
use me as such. Please use me as such.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Oh show tonight, this game wasn't closed.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Jackson Dart did it with his arm and his leg
scat packed with sensational nineteen carries ninety eight yards, three touchdown,
Jackson Dart thirteen carries fifty eight yards another touchdown.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
They gained one hundred and seventy two yards on the ground.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Jackson Dart was seventeen or twenty five one ninety five
one touchdown.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
He was sacked, but he didn't turn the ball over.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
And when you can turn the when you can take
care of the football and you play, you have a
great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was twenty four thirty
three two eighty three one touchdown. Oh show what we
say about that late ball?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
If you layton.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Inside is going the other way every time?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
And it almost did.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Uh. They ran the ball twenty times for seventy three yards,
but they ran the Tousch push four times in a row.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
They got a touchdown at it.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Dallas guardup has seven catches one hundred and ten yards
a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
AJ Brown had six for eighty.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Davonte Smith, who Jalen hurts overthrow, would have had like
a ninety yard touchdown, but he had four for forty nine.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh Joe, the Giants just the Giants did whatever they
wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Both sides of the ball too at that, and both
sides of the ball at that. For one, I want
to talk about Jackson Dark. I want to say about
good Jackson Dark looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson
started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart
got his opportunity, he came in and closed the door
right behind him.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
He's making the throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping,
he's eluding, he's using his legs, he's using his arm.
His best weapon went down with knee injury. But you
wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively outside the Scatterbo
was hurt. Jackson Dart is a real deal and he's

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very exciting. The combination of him and Scatterbo together, it's
like two little kids.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
It's like two little kids out there on the playground.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yes, he's doing the game of football at the highest level,
and it's refreshing.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
It's refreshing for the Giants. As you can see and
you can hear.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
You know you watched, you watch you watch the game
with the sound off, but just just watching the reaction
and the sound of the Giants.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh, they gonna can see the fans when they're paying
and the fans going, I'm sure they saying uh bow
like for scatter bow. Scott Pack was doing his thing,
Jackson Dart. I'm sure the hell in dark look this
was look and we'll get to this, ohoe. Because the
Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues, and
we tried to tell them about the issues that they have.

(41:28):
But you know what, Ojo, but you can't tell Giants
fan anything because you creak. If I critique Jalen Hurts.
You don't like black people. You don't say this about
white quarterback. If I critique their team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine,
I should have your undivided attention because I couldn't get
your attention at first because you was winning. And see
that when you win it you can't get nobody's attention.

(41:51):
Now I should have your undivided attention because you're lost twice. Yes,
the Giants they got the make it of a good team.
The only thing that concerns me, o Jo is pressure.
There are times back there that Jalen Hurst with just
sitting there patting the ball and two of the three
and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground.

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They've got to generate pressure because they don't have e
lead on the back end. And so you should be
able when you got d Lawrence, when you got a Thibodeau,
when you got a dual Carter, that should be more
than enough to create pressure to create habit.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
And not nearly.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
And I forgot Brian Burns. Yeah, that should be enough,
more than enough to create habit.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Not enough. Habit was created tonight. You won the game.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
But in order for you to keep building on this,
you got ten weeks, you got ten days off, you
get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the
Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy because the Yankees
lost last night. But if you're a Giant fan, you
look at Jackson Dart, you're like, man, he won his
first game. He was playing really well against the Saints,
and then he started turning the ball over. If we

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could protect the ball, I think we might got something.
Scat Pack was doing what Skatpack does. He runs hard,
He's looking to run through as Marshawn Lynch would say,
run through a mofo face, and he runs with authority.
He's looking to deliver a blow. When he blocked, he's
blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out.
He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, allis forgiving.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
He was a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
But I thought the Giants offensive line o shoe when
we talked about that thing with the seal if hey,
he was just coming to a you're gonna block him.
But they did a ground. I thought they did a
better job tonight of protecting Jackson Dark. He did a
great job of avoiding the rush. When he needed to run,
he got rid of he got out of the pocket.
When he needed to throw the ball away, he threw

(43:44):
it away. I liked what I saw from the New
York Football Giants. Wandelle Robinson had himself a game a
little John Humphrey. I thought he made some plays to
night o Joe. But I mean, what can we say
the Giants. I mean, I don't think anybody really picked
the Giants to win this game. But did you go
to show you? Hey, you take care of the football

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and it's a division game. Oh Joe, it's a robber game.
You know, you throw workers out of the window when
you playing a rival.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Now, it was definitely, definitely, But listen, if you also
understand if you're a betman, if you're a betman, you're
definitely picking the Eels.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yes, I wonder what the lion, Well, what was the
you know what the lion was about? Joe, No, I
had to be proud to be I'm thinking, at least
for four and a half.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Listen, you're going against a rookie quarterback defending Super Bowl champs.
Everybody named Mama probably Pook picked the Eagles to actually
win this game. But when you have a quarterback like
Jackson Dart who has been as exciting as he is,
who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten
the starting job, I mean, for those who actually know
and understand the game of a ball, and based on
the small samble side of Jackson Dart that we've been

(44:52):
able to see you throw caution to win when you
come to betting against the Giants, especially after tonight's perform
So going forward, you know, I think things are going
to change a little bit when it comes to watching,
not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you
want to on them to win a certain game or
specific game.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
It seems like the line was seven seven and a half,
depend on where you was batting, who you was bad
or you know where you're you know what line you took.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
I'm I'm confused, O Joe to me, wait before you
say anything, let me get comfortable.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I'm confused as to what they're doing with A. J. Brown.
I watched the man run two unders in a row.
Mm hmm. I'm like, is that the only route y'all
believe AJ Brown can run?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
He run under, He run a little, They try to
run him on like a a little a little six
seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination in
the routes. I don't see no magic, no creativity in
the calls.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Look, they running smash concepts. They run, they run, they
run the sale and then they run they run the
spot what we call a spot route. Or they'll run,
they'll run, they'll run the out and then they'll run
the under. Or Davonte will try starting the slot and
he'll run run the fade, or he'll run the smash route.
I mean he'll uh and Uh Brown would run. I'm like,

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damn if I'm jaylingen Hert say, Man, I'm tired of
run these damn under routes. Give me a dig, give
me a comeback, give me a deep over, give me something.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Hey, run a bang. Yeah, we ain't got no bangs.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, I will say they made they made a conscious
effort to give them the ball. They made a conteous
effort to give the ball in the in the first half.
And there were some players that broken down where he
was able to scramble out the pocket and get get
the ball to AJ. It wasn't many of them, but
he had a He had a better better stat line
this week.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know, this game Sega best most yards he's had.
You know he had that hundred yard.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Game against the Rams where they were down about a
lot of the half and then they came out made
a car effort like we got to throw the ball
because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game,
and it was like okay.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
AJ.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
So he had six for eighty, Dallas Goddard had six,
nine for one ten. Smity would have been over one
hundred had Jalen out overthrow and me put a little
bit too much gas up on the Davante red a
really good route had him. I mean he could have
walked backwards and got to the end zone because it
looked like if defender had fallen down on Joe. Yeah,
when you when when you look at the Eagles, what's

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going on? Clearly Clearly that meeting didn't help.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know.
Thirty four to seventeen. It's been a while since the
Eagles lost the game by that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
And this game wasn't. This game wasn't. I mean, Ugh,
this thing got on the head quick. It did.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
It did, And I would think some obviously, I think
would start up front with some of the pieces to
that offensive line being missing. Small holes that you that
you try to cover up, no weak links that you
try to come up but you just can't.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
There's a reason why Saquon.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as
he was last year.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Because he wasn't Ojo. You do that with Ojo. You
thought they were gonna let that man come back and
rush for another two thousand.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best
offensive line in the league. Yes, butted effort.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
What did I tell you?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
If you're gonna beat me, you're gonna beat me with
jayalen Hurst throwing the football. Oh yeah, because I like
my chances better beating you with him throwing the football
than sa Kwan Barkley running for one hundred and twenty
five a game. Right, It's really that simple, And that's
not a knock. I'm not gonna let but I'm not
gonna let you have a two way go of it.
Now say Kuwan's running. Now you play action and throw

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the ball over the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Nah, nah nah.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
If he's gonna throw the ball with pinport accuracy, and
guess what I'm gonna do, o Jo, I'm gonna leave.
I'm not gonna bring I'm not gonna drop eight in
the box. I'm not gonna throw one on one. I'm
gonna make you throw through zone. I'm gonna make you
throw it the coverage. Now you do that consistently. Okay,
I tell my hat to you. I can live with that,
but I am not going to let Saquan do what
he did last year and then be at your mercy.

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Now you throw when you want to, you run when
you want to. You got me begging man throw the ball,
man run the ball. Nah, hell nah, you gonna beg
for something different. Look, it's early in the season, but
clearly something is something that is a miss with the Eagles.

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It's hard to pick right up where you left off,
o Jo. As someone that has been in that situation,
you have to you have to really, you have to
really turn your mind off to like, may we won
the super Bowl. Yeah you did that last year. You
think these team are gonna roll over just because you
won the Super Bowl? You're their super Bowl this year? Yeah,
the teams that didn't win the Super Bowl, guess what

(49:59):
when they see your that's on the schedule. Now that
gives us you know what Brian Dabas said, that's the
defending super Bowl champs and we just hung thirty four
on them. You see when we play, we can beat
anybody in this league. That's what they're saying. That's the Eagles.
That's the defending super Bowl champ. So now teams based

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they based how good they are whether they beat them.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
And now you see why.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Now this gives you a better reason why why the
hurts when they ask them about the Super Bowl and
how it feels in the Champs.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Why he throws it out the door that was last
year absolutely because.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
He understood how difficult it would be not only repeat,
but they have the same success going into this same way.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Now we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
The strokes that they are having being at their not
at full strength, especially at the offensive line. Some of
the defensive pieces are a little different than they were
last year, and it's a different new offensive coordinator he had.
Things have to evolve offensively. You know, you can't be
too predictable. Last year because the running game was so efficient,
you could, damn there, do what you want to do exactly,

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and you can throw it when you want to. You
got to pick your poison on what you want to do.
Now things are a little different, and now you're going
to get to see the better part of the Eagles.
Then they dig down, don't yoe? We got to dig Yeah,
they could do one of two things. You can come
together and fix it or things are going to continue
to splinter.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, you're and we're not going to make no excuses. Oh,
the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me the
Giants had thirty four and the Eagles had seventeen. They
didn't say Eagles one had thirty four and the Eagles
two had seventeen. Right, ain't no beat beat yourself because
see that's the excuses you made last week. That had
man they should have called passive appearance. That was a
passive appearance. You see what happens on Joe if you

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if you lose by a little I can go back
at point to faith.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Well if we had done this, we had done that.
But see when I beat hell at you? What you're
gonna say?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
So what passed in affears that would have made up
seventeen points? What a holding call?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Man?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
They will help they was holding So what holding call
would have made up seventeen points?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
What did I miss? What off signs?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
What penalty that they didn't call that would have made
up for seventeen points? Oh, I feel I feel bad
for my guy Gilly.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
He's gonna be all right, you know, I know he's
gonna be the only reason I'm saying. He gonna be
the only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to
be okay. Yeah, because it's so early in the season.
It's so early now we now we were on the
back of the season. I give you one if it
was after Thanksgiving. Things we're looking the way they look now,

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I be worried. I'd be worried.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
But let me tell you. When you show vulnerability early, yes,
teams like they can be had.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's the thing now, because you're already gonna get everybody's
best shot out yo, because you can rain in Super
Bowl champs. Absolutely, you're gonna get everybody's best. But now
they're like, hey, they're vulnerable, they can be had. The
ferocity that that defense is not nearly as vicious as
suffocating as it was. That's a rookie, O Joe. I

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don't give a damn who back there. That is a
rookie quarterback and only his third start.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
And he did that.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
He did that, and he didn't seem bothered by what
you were doing on the back end. He didn't seem flustered.
He didn't seem off kilter. He didn't seem like, man,
what are they doing? I'm seeing ghosts out there. He
didn't seem that way to me. Now, maybe somebody else
saw something that I didn't see, but he looked perfectly
fine to me. Hey, I see, I can see why

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AJ getting frustrated because I get tired. I get tired
of running under rods too.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I get tired of running short crosses they run, stop, man,
give me something down the field. I get It'll be
very interested, Oh joey, if we were to watch it
cut up until all twenty two and see how many
times he run further than ten yards down the field. Right,
Because I see I see a lot of people. I
see a lot of I see a lot of routes.

(54:18):
Short cross over the ball, under route, slant route, five
yard out, man, Let that man run a deep over,
Let the man run a comeback. Let the man run
a dig damn yeah, and more, and everybody goes, oh joe,
now they know he not going deep. I'm squatting on everything.
O Joe, I ain't getting no damn backpedal because he
ain't run no.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Go ball, especially the especially the better corners, especially the
better corners. No, and understand down the distance. We understand tendency,
we understand split, we understand schemes, we understand the route concepts.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Okay, oh he's here on top of the numbers. Oh
he ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You ain't run no damn god route from those top
of those numbers.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Absolute, Are we inside the numbers?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Okay, you try to run a shallow, you try to
run a shallow.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Either run the shallow or you're coming outside one are
the other. I could just sit like I don't know.
I think maybe maybe the casual fan doesn't understand how.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
How difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated,
but how easy it is for those who study the game,
who watch film and are used to seeing things over.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
And over and over.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, difficult.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
So now the owners is on the office of the
coordinator to be a little bit more creative to throw
off those that you're playing week, because now there's film
on you. There's a year's worth of film on you.
And you got to change things up, because if you
don't change things up, you get what you see the night.
You get players that are frustrated because the blueprinters out there,
the ingredients are out there, and the ingredients are out there.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Hey, we know what this tastes like. You got to
change it up.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
You do ojo and the thing is just like a
ass rusher. You can't give that offensive lineman the same
pass rush move.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
He'll eat that up.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
After a while, he'll build up an immunity to it.
So you gotta give it, Hey, you gotta Sometimes you
gotta turn speed to power. Sometimes you just got a
good depth. Sometimes you gotta wax on, wax off. Sometimes
you gotta bull sometimes you got a hump. You got
to change it up. The same thing with the offensive lineman. Hey,
sometimes they quick set you or jump set you. Sometimes

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they stab left and then they come back. Hey, sometimes
they sometimes they catch some. You've got to change it up.
These guys are good, very good, and they break everything down.
They watch him, watch his feet, Watch when he does this,
what you does? What he does with his hands? Now,
watch when he watch when he's in the stands. Look
out why this base is defensive offen defensive lineman. Look

(56:46):
at his stands. They pay attention. They break everything down
to the ump team because the margin of era. These
guys are really good, and the margin of the margin
of victory is so small. Very it's not, I'm telling you,
it's not. It's not a mountain. It is small. It's
the minute. Is the just the details. The devil is

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in the details.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Many, it's one of one of three players make the difference.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
That's what that is. It two turnovers did not help.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Look like they were the Eagles were going in get
a turnout, uh uh and Jalen through it was late
and inside you you you you inside, if that dB
can catch, he's going the other way with it. And
then it seemed like they were driving again and aj
Dillon got the ball punched out. That's two turnovers right
there where you look like you were about to uh
make something positive happen, and it ends up going the

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other way.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
But the uh, it gonna be interesting to see how
the Eagles bounce.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Back or how they respond general.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh, Joe, you do realize they didn't score a point
in the second half.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the second out, the seventeen was off in.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
The first hey, and on the on the touch push
that first one, the the right guard jumped the count again.
See he all, oh, jo, he almost has to jump
the count because he has to keep the guy off
the center because if the center gets stand up, because
remember Jalen Hurst is coming right behind it. So if
he gets stood up, so the guard, one of those

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guards have to knock somebody off him. Let him get
some push. Now we can get Jayleen Hurst to get
a little push, so it gets leg drive. If Jayleen,
if the center gets stood up, where's Jayalen going?

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Play doesn't work?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I mean, the play doesn't work. It's gonna look. I'm
sure Nick Serryan is like, you know, you like guy.
Know it's a tough when it was a short week,
but hey, it was a short week for the Giants.
Everybody's gonna have. Everybody's gonna have at least one short week.
The Cowboys probably, Yeah, the Cowboys will probably have two

(58:57):
because they got the Thanksgiving game and then they knit
nearly likely plays the following Thursday after that, Right, but
give I think this tonight. We can talk about the
Eagles till we're blue in the face. But I think
tonight was more about what the Giants dead, positive and
good as opposed to the Eagles. The Eagles have their issues.

(59:18):
But here's the thing. If I got issues and you
don't take advantage of them, what good is that mistake?
When you make a mistake, can I make you pay
for it?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
You leave the door open, I walk in your house,
You leave something out of the table, I eat off
your table. Every mistake the Jets of the Eagles made,
Giants made them pay for it.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
The question is.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Look, Charyon Siriani cut his teeth and call him plays.
And I know it's a bad because here's the thing.
Anytime you do something that's abnormal, people think you're panicking.
If I take over the play calling, O Yoe, what
am I saying the guy that had the play calling,
he's not doing a good job. Be off or defensive.
If I've reassigned people, hey, you were the class So Joe,

(01:00:05):
Shannon Chad get your book, move over here. That means
you would being a disruption, you were doing something you
would have no business. I got that all the time, Shannon,
Can you move up here by me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Why? You know why? So that's the way that look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
That's people are gonna look at that from the outside
and says, well, oh okay, I thought it wasn't nothing
going on. If nothing's going on, why are you making
these changes? Why are you making these moves? But at
the end of the day, I've got to do what
in the best interest of this team. And if I
have to take over the play calling, I don't want to.
I don't want to take over the play calling, but
I will if I have to. And the question is,

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do you think Sari Arnie should or will take over
the play calling.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
That's that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
That's asking awful lot of a head coach. I mean, look,
now Shanahan does it, Andy Reid does it. There aren't
a whole Sean McVay does it. Not a whole lot
of guys. Ben Johnson does it now. But for the
most part, you know, Hey, I got lieutenants. Let lieutenants
do their job. Ver see everything. I hear everything. There's

(01:01:12):
something Hey nah, we're gonna run in on this one. Now,
Hey hey you got that special to play?

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Do that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I try to oversee everything. So what do you think,
what do you think will happen? Or what do you
think should happen?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I think more so a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
I think more so conversations has had between Petula Batula
and and Syrianna Sirianni, because Sirianni has enough enough as
a head coach.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
He has enough he has going on that he has
to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
He has enough on his player as is you already
have You already have coaches appointed to certain positions and
they have their jobs. Now if you if you want
a coach to do in job a little better or
find ways to make things work, is here now talking
out from an offensive perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
You have that conversation with him and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
And what needs to change and what he would like
to see as a head coach, But taking over the
play calls this early. To me, it sends in panic mode,
and I don't think that's something that they really need
is not to panic, but find a way figure out
what solutions we can take. What what creative effort, you know,
can Petula do? And in creating a little bit of

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creativity offensively and moving some things around, just throwing a
few wrinkles in there, not not going too far away
from the game plan and schematically and the things that
do work and that you like to do, but just
throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little
bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there
playing Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
You know how.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Coaches always asked the quarterback, and the quarterback goes to
the coach that these are the players.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I like, Yeah, go to agent Broynce, aj what you like?
What you want to run? Give me? Give me a hint?
How cold? How can I help you? What do you like?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Ask you? I mean Mike would ask me a eighty four.
What you what you like here?

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Same, especially in at first fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, you can't go wrong with basic cross, you can't
go wrong with white choice. You cannot go wrong with those.
You give me one of those, you give me one
of those, I'm good. I'll make it. I'll make it work.
I don't give a damn if he's playing outside leverage.
I don't care if he's playing head up. I don't
care if he's playing inside leverage. He cannot stop me

(01:03:20):
from going where I want to go. He's gonna ask
me what I like? Hey, you like the tzar Ro here?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah? I like zorro d. I like Zorro. I like Zorro.
I like it, and I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
You know, I'm really trying to get a touchdown, so
I kind of like it, Oh, Joe, I like it
to tea going in. I ain't really try to get
no first down because they're only gonna bite one time,
won't Joe. It's like you got a fish and you
hook him and he get off. He ain't biting again,
not that one now. Somebody else might get his ass
another day in time, but he not gonna bite.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
So that's the way I look at it. Like if
I beat him on this za row this time and
I get a first down, he ain't biting again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I'm like, no, I kind of like, I kind of like,
uh like in the ten for the zar Ro route.
But anything else might Hey, you do right choice, you
do basic? Hey, you do a basic cross, anything like that,
I'm good. I'm gucci. Hey, run Tiger far across. Hey, anything,
Just go to AJ, say AJ, what you like?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Tell me?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Tell me what if I said, he J, give me
your five favorite routes that you like to run. Yeah,
and let me see how I can incorporate it in
what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Because all they do, O.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Joe, is that you got your plays, and you watch
the film and you see what the other teams did
to their ass last week, and then you put that
in and call it your stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
It is a copycat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
That's all you do.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
There's a copycat league, and they do it every week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Whatever they saw, whatever they saw that worked on film,
and you happen to be playing that team, they're gonna
do the exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Formation might be a little different, absolutely, what be exactly
the same?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You think a asked for a trade?

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
No, damn oh, shoot, you know what, I'm not in
AJ shoes. I'm not I'm not in the shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
And and being being how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs,
and the way he moves and thinks is much much
more completely different than that of what they think he is. Yeah,
I'm not sure he's the type to ask for a trade,
but but he's frustrated. Smith is frustrated, for sure. They

(01:05:36):
both voiced their frustrations. I think it was maybe last
week or week before last publicly, So I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I think, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Right, because because I understand, I really do. I really do,
because I don't want people to think I understand a situation. Say,
they don't pay me to win. They pay me for stats.
The only problem that I have stats get me paid,
not wins, not wins. I told her, Yeah, remember I
said that. Yeah, I said that, the only problem is

(01:06:14):
that AJ. Keep that with Sirianni, keep that with Petula,
keep that with what you call them. I say, because
when you voice it outside, people are gonna look at
you as being selfish and say you care about your
stats than you do about winning, even though that's how
you're gonna get paid.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, but you're not gonna be able to lisit sympathy
from that fan base because we win in o Jo
just like Oh Joe, you winning, you're like man, but
y'all have won seven games in a row. How you
how you go publicly? They tell about Man, I need
to get the ball right right. People gonna look at

(01:06:50):
you as being selfish. Although I understand what it's based on.
I just wish, Like I said, I wish because like
a family, football team is a family. I guarantee you
spend more time with the with the football team that
you do your real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Family, especially during this time. Yes, from basically.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
From July when you go to training camp until your
season ends, you spend more time with them. You do,
you do, and you do everything you can to keep
everything in house when it gets out of when it
gets out. Now, everybody has their own interpretation to what's
going on exactly when you keep it in house, don't nobody,
don't nobody know you know what the actually what's actually

(01:07:29):
being said.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
You know what and how to fix it. But then
once it gets out. Yeah, and like I said that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Meeting, I'm trying to figure out who How many people
know about that meeting, don't Joe Mighty?

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Probably upstairs. I guarantee you that somebody knows.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
He's some reporter, you know, a player talking to reporter
that they probably can fide in and thought it wouldn't
get out or they wouldn't tell anybody, And all of
a sudden, the rest of the world knows.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Trust nothing us, absolutely nothing. But now what I knew
to be true all along. Killen Moore is a damn
good offensive coordinator, absolutely a damn good one. He was
good at Dallas. He was really good at Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
He was great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
He won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Normally it's
a little lull. Normally, Detroit doesn't seem to be having
that problem. To Jonson Bell, they don't be seeen to
have that problem that ag left on the defensive side
of the football. Detroit is playing extremely well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Remember Remember what I said, Remember I said when Ben
Johnson left, when Aaron Glenn left, I said, even though
the coach has left, the pieces of that puzzle are
still there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
So you take coaches out and the pieces of the puzzle.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Still there, you will still put it together right together
because you still got the same pieces, so it doesn't
matter who called and the play. That's why some time
when I hear coach, when I hear fans say, oh
they want to they want coaches fired when things are
going well, well, hell well.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
If he had to god damn players to execute, it
wouldn't be no damn problem.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Bill Belichick was great and New England because he had
the pieces, including Tom and now they wanted to you
know that. I heard he might get fired sometime this
week in North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Bill, Well, what the hell you want to do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Uh, what do you want to do? Well, people look
at it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
If you don't got Jared Rice, Randy Moss and laugh
fis Gerald, you don't have good receivers, but laugh, fist
Jerald and Jered Rice and random Moss.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I mean it takes a special type of person to
fit that system. And Randy fit the system for a
couple of years, and then all of a sudden he
wanted more and Bill said, no, everybody's not gonna be
able to go. Oh, Joe Weeks, I count two passes
this week. I caught four passes last week. I caught this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
No no, no, no, no, no, no. Those guys are
number one receivers for a reason.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Reason.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah, New England built their game of plan to win.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Other teams build a game playing great players, right right,
that's the difference. So it's going to be very very
interesting to see how this thing plays up. I think
getting away. Hey, seriousity, Look, I don't want to see
you guys till Monday. I see you guys Monday. Don't
worry about this tape. I see you guys Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Come in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Hey, we'll have a quick meeting. Get a lift in,
get a run in, runs over this out. I'll see
you guys Monday. Got Tuesday off. Let's be ready to
come back to work Wednesday and fix whatever whatever we
got going on. It's good to clear our heads. Get
an opportunity to get away from this. Hey, you don't
need to watch television, you don't need to read the paper.
Get to stay off the internet and be ready when

(01:10:40):
we come back in here on Wednesday. Yeah, let's be
ready to work and get this thing done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Get it right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
They're gonna they're gonna have to fix it. And don't
let anything else come out the locker room. Don't say
nothing crazy after the media. I'm not sure who might
have talked to the media after the game. I hope
they took time to allow themselves to defuse from whatever anger,
whatever most you may be having.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Take a shower.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
First, take a shower, first pull off, then talk to
the media. Don't give them no ammunition.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I don't know what I'm surprised though, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I'm surprised how many people when they go to the
locker room the first thing they do is check their phone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Mm hmmm, yeah, absolutely, okay, because.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I'm shocked by that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Yeah, I'm one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah. See, you played that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
You played in the era that they did have social media,
So I'm glad I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I didn't. I didn't play in that era. I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Yeah, just started, it just started. So I caught social media.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
The guy do that? You think they checked their phone
at halftime too? No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
I don't know about it. I don't know about that one.
I don't know about that one. Yeah, my last year
I checked. Okay, I cutting the food. Let me see
what they see, what they're talking about, what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
They talking about? I g oh yo, what do you
think about the two ports?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Four times, Michael Parkson says this is not football with
two trash emojis.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Hey, if you can't stop it, don't knock it. If
you can't stop it, if the Packers were able to
do it, that wouldn't be a problem. So so I
mean touch pushes not football. So let's talk about some
of the players the other teams run that nobody can
stop that aren't highlighted. Truth, We're gonna start eliminating plays

(01:12:31):
from certain teams that do one thing specifically, well, just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Because somebody can do something better than anybody can do
one thing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Yeah, hey, find a way to stop it. I know
how to stop it. I can't. I can't give the
formula on how to stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
You know, my brother tell us all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
He says, my goal was to do my job, do
this one thing better than anybody else did anything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Yeah, it seems to me that the tush push, the
Eagles do this better than any other football team does
anything else. Yeah, whether it's rush the quarterback, whether it's
throw the ball, whether it's running the ball, whatever the
case is, the Eagles do the tush push better than
any other football team do any other thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
So I agree with you or Joe? Is it is
it aesthetically pleasing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
No, No, I don't believe you should throw it out
just because somebody can't stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
So if uh Michael, Michael, Mike says it's trash, he
got the two trash cab with the guy m dump
dumping the trash in, then what you think, O.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Joe Nah Michael and being the competitor he is, it
shouldn't matter with anybody else. Run well you want, you
wanted the best in the league, you top three in
the league. It shouldn't matter. You got to stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Tampa, Tampa, Tampa is getting what you call him getting
big dads ready, are they dead?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Don't let them move you at all.
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