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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to d WO and Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
My co host, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
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you don't want to miss nothing on this beautiful, beautiful,
beautiful Monday morning. How you doing today, Joe?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You you the worst, Debo literally, you know, like you
the happiness you get for the Browns not succeeding. What
are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm happy because the Lord woke me up today.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Damn yeh. I'm also happy the Lord woke me up
today too. Dbo. You're not You're not.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I get you. I used to have, Joe.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I love you, Debo, I love you too. Let's look
to man.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Listen, man, I'm telling you it's just I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Another day under this beautiful sunshine, cloudy skies out here
in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I love it, man, I love it. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And I heard that you know what the Browns ended up?
I can I say losing, they didn't win. I'll say
they didn't win. And they played they played the Bears.
And let's just get into it, Joe. You know and
the Bears they started off with the rock, of course,

(01:21):
and they kicked it off to the Bears, and of
course on the kickoff return, I believe the special teams
did what the special teams.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Do, and they went fifty two yards for the seven.
I ain't gonna lie. Your defense stood.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Up, you know, they told them they held them to
three and they had to you know, they had to
punt the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
But uh, you know, they got a punter over there
in Chicago. They got special teams over there in Chicago
that actually played.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I didn't watch
the game, but I'm just going through my roller.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Would you say one of yard line?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
They said, the one yard line, one yard line, one
yard line.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's what great special teams play does great.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh, they said it was a false start on the
first play, and then the second it was a twelve
twelve men in the huddle, and then y'all had to
punt the ball.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Joe, what happened?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Light out at it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hey, hey, Joe, Bears get a short field, right. I
think they start forty two, they said to Cleveland forty two.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
They started the Cleveland forty two.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Okay, because when they had a department turn. They had
a good partment. I heard, I heard.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
The play return wasn't this great. It was more of
the field position that you guys kind of yeah, okay, yep.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then what are you serious?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
They got a neutrals on this fraction on the the
defensive going to be the defensive MVP who is running
for the second.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
He got a wow, he got a neutrals on this fraction.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Dude heard into second and five and they said that
running back they got over there, Swift. He went ten
on them for that, and then what Kela Williams was
doing this thing?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Hey, I don't mean to do that.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I guess he hit Lovely for eleven yard right and Swift. Hey,
they said that was Swift six yard touchdown seven?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Man?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Am I correct? I'm correct?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You correct? Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
They said back out there, baby, and they go to
do they what we out a delay and then they
go three and out. Oh sorry, I'm tripping. But they said, like,
I don't know something happened on thirty ten. I guess
it was like maybe I don't Sanders.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Nine and a half, we get a little what was that?
What is it? The review? They give a man a
half yard short.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, now it was they said it was short,
and they say, yeah, yeah, I guess the Bears.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know, they actually started at there on twenty.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
They said, like, so you had great field position, seven
plays eighty yards to touch They said, seven plays eighty
yards a touchdown, third, third and two Williams.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Who who lovely? They hit lovely for what?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Twinkie?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Folk?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
They said, they hit lovely for Twinkie?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Four?

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Whoa?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Burdon he said he was wide open for four.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It was picked. It was a pick. They got picked.
He got picked.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You picked, like, yeah, sold, everybody got one. They all
stink what oh?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
And finished it with more on the third down for
the touchdown and fourteen nothing?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Whoa, I don't even know what the score was, Joe.
So there's fourteen nothing.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, I guess Cleveland gainst the ball and then another
three and out because the door got sacked on second down, unlocked,
people running at him like, you know, it was we
have a botched offensive. But the Bears did what Then
the Bears they got the ball back right, Okay? Then

(05:11):
then what happened then? All the way to the.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Cleveland said, oh they helped him out.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Then the Bears mister field goal. Yes, okay, So then
Cleveland gets the ball back. Oh he had a nice one.
She had a nice past.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
First first down in the first first down in the
damn game. Okay, first first down by.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
The next third dollar he got sacked. Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Man?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And y'all crazy man? Then he got sacked, y'all punted.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
That he fumbled it. Actually, I'm happy, happy that they
got it back. Yeah, we got it back.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And then you'll you put the ball over?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Is that what happened? The ball?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And then oh, nothing really happened. Oh you said it
was just Brown's Cleveland. Oh, I guess Cleveland and actually
stood up and you know, forced the three and out.
So but hey, the Browns got the ball back. This
they did something with it, huh did they? Oh they did?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
They did?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
What do they do with it? False start? A false started?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Gets yes, and.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
A three and oh three and out? Dann dang, I'm
so sad about that, man. I guess forty hey, forty
seconds left man, and they did Oh they didn't score.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
They tried to hook a ladder all that stuff. Yeah,
we get a little stop.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, they saying saying it was like it was like
hook this and all that other stuff. But you know
it was it was hey, y'all, it's only fourteen. Nothing
that happened, and we had no yards. We didn't do
nothing on oh oh okay, So y'all get the ball,
y'all come out there, and y'all start balling baby three
and out bombs. I mean, a horrible thing that happened.

(06:58):
Horrible thing that happened. Oh yeah, I guess the Bears
go out there and they try to go for it
on fourth. Yes, they get a sack. Oh my goodness,
who got the sack?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Y'all? Miles? I guess you know he did something right,
I know.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
So y'all get a short field. I'm here like at
the Bears, like forty eight okay, okay, and they said
second down to seventh.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Shador hit Fanning for thirteen. Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh I they did what?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
We get a field goal?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Go, y'all settled for a field goal.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes, we did, three to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm gonna let you keep getting off. I'm I'm just
I'm just asking question.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You say the score was three to thirty, three to
thirty one, Oh my god, that might have been the
only points Shador did. What he got picked it then
turned around immediately the defense did what they held him. No,
they gave up twenty two yard touchdown. Or oh my god,
oh my god, oh my god, I don't know what
is going I'm hey, listen, joe. Oh, they had a

(08:07):
touch y'all scored. Y'all scored a touchdown. They said Shador
made a great pass right there and he caught the
Oh no, they said it was an interception.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
It was an interception.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And they said that right there gave y'all eighty yards
eighty y'all had eighty yards defin and y'all let them
boys go nine plays eighty yards for a touchdown. Oh
my god, Oh, ain't another pick? Huh they do another pick? Hey, hey, hey,

(08:41):
and to add they say the ad insult to injury.
They scored another three another, they scored another three points.
It's thirty one and three. Y'all only scored three points. Joe, hey, Joe, Joe, hey, hey, Cleveland,
got some problem. You said they couldn't protect your door.
You said he was sacked five times. He was pressured.
I mean they said he was pressure moting. The Andrea's

(09:02):
fault got pressure on it. And then you couldn't run
the ball? Hey man, hey, hey, what they couldn't get played?
I'm hey, Joe, you tell me what? Hey Joe, what's
going on over there?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Joe? You know what. I'll let you. No, I got it.
I got it.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Honestly, I don't care. No, you do you do care?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
You do care? Because I gotta I gotta go ahead,
I gotta talk to you about this. So right now,
as a Browns fan, me genuinely, that game sucked the
whole thing. Offense, defense, special teams. It was just sad.
As a Browns fan, I would say for one thing too.
On the offense side of the ball, we're injury prone

(09:46):
on the offensive line. Right now. We had our Wyatt
Taeler was out, we had Jack Conklin out. Then we
had Tevin Jenkins that was came into play he got hurt.
So now we have three three missing players and now
we have addition. No, no, no, we had a we had
a we had a what's more man named we had
a practice squad guy as a center. So it's for

(10:07):
one thing for our fields. Stop, I'm dead serious. The
man we just signed him from the rape from the Ravens.
He's been with us for four forty five minutes, and
then he was subbed in to be on the offensive
line to protect your door. So now we have our
practice squad guys, two guys that don't play, and if
we have Joe Patonio are started as been there for
a while, he's the only him and our left tackle,

(10:27):
but they're injured too, but they're fighting through it. So
the offensive line is looking trash. You can't win if
you can't have any type of run game. Every time
Junkens touched the ball, he was getting smacked in the backfield.
The protection was bad. People running scott free. So with
the offensive side and I'm not here to stand up
and protect your doors. Play thing. Those A lot of

(10:48):
those picks were bad. The one that Judy had that
was not a bad pick. The other two bad balls
bad picks. The one thing that he didn't do, he
didn't move backwards in the pocket at least tried to
move up. He's patting it too long. We gotta make
it this decision. You're not that fast, so you're either
going to run and escape forward or you're gonna dump
it down, throw it away. We just got to make
that decision a little bit quicker on the defensive side

(11:09):
of the ball. We at the end of the day
when we had Denzel Wards out. You know what I'm saying.
We have a lot of people trying to play man
and man wasn't working. This is a big Chicago Bears
beat us in every aspect of the game. They're play
calling the way they we start the game. We come
out in the second on the second drive with a

(11:30):
delay of game, with no mismanagement.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Trying to understand this, Joe, why are you getting so
many the first two drives, y'all have more penalties than
y'all had.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Y'alls, that's on coaching. How did we not have our
first fifteen or anything ready to go and being set
back on you're starting at the inch line, so when
you get those two penalties, we can't even back up nowhere.
We don't have no flow, we don't have no rhythm.
We weren't able to get anything going. We had one
first down. We had nine first now one first down
in the first half, nine first downs in the whole game.

(11:59):
That it's ridiculous. So like when I'm looking at it too,
like special teams they started on their field position was
so much better than ours every single drive. They starting
on the forty seven, the forty two. We're starting on
the one, the sixteen. You know what I'm saying. So
like our special teams players, I know our coach, Bubba Ventro,
great coach, we don't have like it looks like we

(12:21):
don't have any We don't have no special team. We
have no specialists, no dudes that are like this is
our job, Like we have a core special team's crew.
We got a lot of young dudes that are going
out there trying to play and they're not doing well.
That was one of the worst games I ever watched
for a Browns fan, and it had me sick to
my stomach. I can understand why Browns fans get so
mad and get so frustrated that give you talk about

(12:42):
not having hope, Debo. I didn't feel any hope I was.
I'm like, man, I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right here is when you're a Browns fan, you sort
of got an affinity for losers, you know, don't I
don't understand it, but you know, I used to be
a Browns fan myself, so.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
But I grew. I grew, I grew out of it.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I understood that nothing was going to change and it
was going to be the same as long as the
Browns were the Browns, and they still are the Browns.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And that's just how it is.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
They actually said that it was some sort of malfunction
with the wristband. Kevin Stefanski, he actually had had this
to say, tell me what you think it is, Joe.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, there was a miscommunication early They mentioned.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
That you guys had the wrong plays in the wristband
on the first two drives.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Is that action? No, Yeah, yeah, there was something. I
don't know if the wristband got something on it or
whatever it was, but there was a we got to
have fix.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Something on it. Joe.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, Hey, what do you take from that, Joe, something
on it.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You gotta change.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
You can't wipe it off.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, listen, this is what I'm trying to say too.
Did you see the extra door the same question and
Shador said, no, it wasn't the wrong risk man. It
fell out. They had to get something fixed with it, like,
they had to put it put it back in. So
with me, I just don't like Stefancy because he doesn't
he can't never answer nothing. If Shador said the joint
slipped out and they had to put a new one in.

(14:16):
You're never going to get a straight answer from Stefanski.
He's always gonna He's starting to piss me off because
he's uninterested.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like he said, yes, no, yes, what's yes?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeh?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is the wrong play?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean I said yeah. I shouldn't answer that truthfully.
I let the quiet power allowed. Yes no, no.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I just you gotta see we're going we won't get
the footage and run the shador answer to the same thing.
He's like, no, no, no, it was the right stuff. It
just fell out of my uh it fell out, so
we had to put it. We had to put another
one in. So just give an answer, say what you
got to say. But my thing is they just don't
You're a head coach of a team. You're supposed to
make sure. If a team has a lot of penalties,
that's on the coach. If a team is ill prepared,

(14:56):
that's on the coach. If you don't like you just
when you come out, the Chicago Bears look so much
more well coached. He looked like he was running. Think
Caleb was doing it, dishing and dodging. They have a
great running game, they coach. Stefanski looks like he doesn't care.
So that's the part that's throwing me off. I'm like,
all right, if it's already looks like where it's gone,

(15:17):
but not to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
What I think from what I understand is the head
coach speaks first, right, and then you're after the game,
then you're starting quarterback speaks after that. How come we
couldn't even just like or y'all couldn't even just like,
you know, get your story together.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think your door is going to just go say
what really happened, because it really it is what it
is like now if it slipped out like just boom
and coach the fan, I don't know, you just can't
get a straight answer. But that's you know how coaches are,
like theyre trying to keep He's going to be something,
and you already making it look crazy because why I've
never and then in none of the games of sixteen
of the games like you played for the Browns, I did,

(16:02):
and I and I want them to be good, and
I just it's it sucks because they're obviously eliminated. Is
that this year is gonna be a rap, But just
watching it, it pissed me off because it made my
move man, I was I'm walking around, I'm I'm frustrated, like, damn,
what are we going to do? This looks terrible. So
I can see how Browns fast say after they lost,

(16:23):
like fans really do care because I want them to
be successful. But it everything, it just looked terrible. That
was one of the worst things I seen.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I mean, it's kind of what you know, you get
kind of used to seeing with the Browns. I mean
that's I mean, when I can't go and watch the
Stiller's win, watching the Browns lose is good. That's that's
that's a good second. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
what do you think of that? That that Jimmy Judy
play man, what do you how do you.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I think that Shador Sanders put the ball right in
the money that's either has to be a touchdown, worst
case scenarios incomplete, and it's in theirselves, you know what
I'm saying. Like, I just don't like at the end
of the day.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
With Jerry Judie. I mean it kind of like just
bounced off his chest, like he.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Bounced off his chest catch and do you hear the
way that Shador is at the end of the day,
he's not going to go over there and run on
him complain. So my thing is, if nobody's gonna be
running up on you and you're not balling that, well,
don't just shut your mouth. Go out there, do what
you gotta do. You're still making twenty five thirty million
dollars a year regardless, so I know that you don't
think that's a good play. So when I'm not gonna
sit there and sit there and jump on you and

(17:26):
bash on you. But at the same time, when people
are saying you're gonna go scream on your rookie quarterback
for missing something, when you're you try Alan Iverson and
the versty Raiders got the joint punched out and then
you Cliff paul A Pick. You know what I'm saying.
So you had two turnovers from your quarterback. He hasn't
said anything to you in a way of running up
on you making you look bad, So why would you

(17:47):
do that to him? So at the same time, just
be quiet, catch the passes, you know what I'm saying,
and then sha door. At the same time, he hasn't
He's shown everything, Like nah, I think I know Jerry
Judy feels bad about that. You know what I'm saying,
It's gonna happen. That's the way that you do it,
you know what I'm saying. So I will hope Judy
does the same thing.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey man, it's some good news.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Though. Where is Miles Garrett at in the sack record race?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Man?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
He got his one and a half And that's the
other part. I'm watching the game just rooting. Miles gets
his second sack where he thought was his second and
it was a half a sack, So you got one
and a half. He's one sack away from the record,
and he's not He can't celebrate. They're losing. He know
that's going to lose, you know what I'm saying. So
he's doing all of this, seventeen sacks in the last
eight games and losing efforts. So I feel bad for him.

(18:29):
Denzel Ward wasn't out there that injured. They had Emerson,
they got a lot of injuries, but everybody does, you
know what I'm saying. But just seeing Miles out yeah,
I think y'all, y'all next mine up. Stuff that you
have over there in Cleveland, it's not really that great
of a next man up. I think y'all got to
do a little better job. We got to have depth
to be next man up. Our man up is our starters,

(18:51):
our ballers, and if they start falling off, then it's
nobody else is gonna be able to just step in
and make We had Sam Webb love saying web good
work out there, But you're replacing Denzel is gonna put
make our defense a lot worse, you know what I'm saying.
So not having our starters in there, Emerson being hurt
at the beginning of the year, so yeah, I mean, yeah,

(19:12):
it was just ugly debo straight up.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's a shame. But the Ravens
and the Bengals they played. I was hoping both of
them could lose. They didn't tie, but I ain't gonna lie.
I watched this and the number of twenty four nothing
don't really dictate how close this game was, dude.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
The Ravens get out there.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
First three plays they handed to Henry I think he
gains eleven on that, and then the second down he
was tackled for a loss of one, and then on
third down, La Markets Sat they end up phunting the ball.
Burrow gets out there. I think second down, he hits
Guessick for eleven and then first down they get a

(19:57):
holding penalty, which I'm thinking, I'll put him behind the chain.
But the next play I forgot they had Chase over there.
He picks up eighteen. They able to pick up the
first down on the second down, and then second down,
I think Baltimore got a legal hand use that ended
up giving him another first down. They converted another first
down after that, and second down Chase dropped would have

(20:22):
been a first down, and third down, Burrow gets sacked
and loses fifteen yards, putting them out of field goal.
They ended up having to punt through rock. L Mar
gets it back second down, he gets sacked. Night was
bawling over there. A great job of running, you know,

(20:43):
following following the spying on, spying on Lamar when he
had you know, that responsibility, Yeah, when he had that responsibility.
They punt the rock. Burrow gets out there. Second down.
He ended up having to scramble all the pressure because
they was on his neck.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Mh yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think it was what fourth and two ended up
getting the first down because your boy was in the
neutral zone. And then the next play, I think Brown
ended up running for a high ten and then third down,
Chase off his fingertips interception.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
In the red zone. In the red zone, more careful,
Ravens get the rock bad and then.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Mitchell, I ain't know they had another running back over there,
man went he went for eight, and then the next
play he hit it for fifteen. I think the second down,
Lamar he goes and he gets picked because Flowers drops
the ball. It bounces into.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
That was a cliff Paul to a Cliff Paul. The
Ravens did it and and Bengals did it, no question.
Cincinnati gets out there.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
And it's I think it was like an illegal formation
on like the first player or something like that.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
They go three and out.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
After that punt the ball, it's still like zero zero dude,
Like I don't know, Like I'm watching, I'm like, where
the hell did this twenty four come from?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
First play, lamarscrambles.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
For a hot fourteen and then he hits Hopkins for
what like thirty two?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Man? Hey that that second down though, Hey, they fired
on Mitchell. Oh lord, they fired on him. Man, I
ain't lie. They fired him, yes, And then the third down.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
He dumped that thing was ali that wod went on head,
took it thirty yards for the touchdown, sat nothing they
get back out there since I think Peering that's his name, right.
He got six the first play, and then Burrow hit
Chase for like nine.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
The next two plays, I think it was Brown.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
He had a rush for about four, another catch for seven,
and then second down, then call, and then third down.
They had an offensive pr that the Ravens declined because
they ain't get nothing on it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
They punt the rock back.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
And here's where it starts to open a little, like
five plays eighty yards. First play, Flowers for twenty six.
Then Lamar scrambles for twelve. The next play, the Bengals
dropped a pick that hit him in the face.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Bruh, Like, you're not gonna get many of those.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
No question, dude. I think they had some off setting penalties.
And then Lamar hit Andrews. I think it was about
fourteen to fifteen. And the deep ball to Flowers I
was on the down that was at Yes, he put
that on the money, dude, fourteen Nathan, like Cincinnati get

(23:50):
the ball back. They trying to make their way down there,
and you get Chase on the second down.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
For about eleven.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
The next second down, they sacks that man again.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
End of the half.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Fourteen, it's still fourteen, nothing like. The game is still
within within touch. You know what, I'm out there, you know.
Cincinnati starts the third quarter, second down, Chase Good thirty.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Four yards, you know, m h. And I ain't gonna
lie to you.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I was kind of hoping that if it couldn't be
a tie, that the Bengals will win.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
The Bengals will win. Yes, yeah, no question makes it
easier road.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
And then that third down he gets out of a sack,
and then you go for it on fourth down and
you don't convert.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
He's pressured again. He got it.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
He gotta throw the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Now you get a ball back to the Ravens and
this dude, Henry start tripping.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
He go for twenty nine and then he go for
twenty four to the fifteen. Third down, Flowers drops a TD.
They got lucky. They settled for the field goal. It's
still within touch. It's seventeen to zero. Cincinnati come out there.

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I believe they may have converted one first down. Ravens
defense doing what they do force another was getting they
looking better.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I don't like that, or bro I don't like that.
He liked that. It's not good. It's not good for
the It's not it's not it's not. Yeah, I don't.
I don't like that, dude, I won't And Lamar moving
better like I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ravens get the ball back first play again, Henry twenty two.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
They got lucky.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
He tripped. They do.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I'm trying to tell you they got missing on that
for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yes, second and five, Lamar hits Flowers for fourteen. Then
Mitchell get back in the mix. The next he go
for eleven. But Lamar gets sacked on first down. He
almost got sacked though second down too, because but he
threw it away and then got sacked again by at
boy Night. On third down, they punt the rock, your

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defense doing a little bit of handing up like that.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
They're trying to give you a chance to trying to
give you a chance.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Man. Bengals get the ball. Man.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
They drive all the way down to the two yard line.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
In that process, these boys converted two fourth downs, and
then on second and goal, he dropped the touchdown in
the back of the end zone.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
And what happened on that next play, Barrow gets intercepted
like van, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Gonna lie to you when nor because you did it before,
I am not handing that out. He had that thing
off to him, how you say, like a baton, right,
like a baton. That boy strossed out, Hey, bro, he
stopped running. He had soon as he as soon as

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he handed it off, he stopped running and did let
me sit back and watch. Come on, he did let
me sit back and rocks twinkie four ohd than nothing
that's over it, dude, And that's just where it ends.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Out of touch.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Then the Ravens, dude, the defense one hundred percent did
their job. They let them score at all them boys
was at the two yard line and they scored.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
You talking to pick six to the house?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Ninety five yards to yo?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And then the first time ever Burrow has been shut
out in his career, like this is the actually this
is the first time since twenty seventeen that Cincinnati was
held scoreless.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Guessed by who it was? Then the Steelers the Ravens,
oh man, they got their number. They got their number. Bro.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
They sacked Burrow like three times. They had good pressure
on him all night.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think he was.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
What four of ten for fifty nine yards and two
interceptions when they had him under pressure, Like, dude, the
Ravens played better all around, situationally on offense defense. Here's
the crazy thing, though, the Ravens only had the ball
for just under twenty one minutes.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like that mean they them boys over.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
There had the ball for almost forty minutes and Henry
still got a hundred on just eleven carries. Mitchell added
another sixty six on eight carries, almost one hundred and
ninety total Russian and then lamar, dude, he was he
only passed the ball twelve times, Bro.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Twelve times, Bro.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean when for one fifty two touchdowns all in
a pick like that's taking advantage, Like that's making it work.
I don't twenty if I would have showed you just
the number. Shit that like without the score, Bro, you
thought it was twenty nine. It's like they didn't have

(29:03):
enough yards. At the end of the day, they really
scored well, they got fourteen. They had seven on defense,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
So like that that pick six made it look way
worse than it really was because at the end of
the day they didn't they was the Bengals had the
ball like conduct like you said that drive for converting
on fourth downs, driving it all the way down to
too y'all line. That's a lot of converting third downs,
fourth downs, being able to keep the ball time of possession.
But if you're not getting no points out of that,

(29:30):
that's just a long foul ball, like nobody cares. Just wait,
squock that you're not gonna be able to get no
more points because now you ran all the way down there,
wasted that time, and it took us eleven seconds to
pick six year olds. So now all right, you try
to do Now we're kicking it back off to you
getting the ball at the twenty again restart, you know
what I'm saying. So being able to Ravens have defense

(29:51):
like that and keeping that offense out of the end zone.
Jamar Chase is on that team, you know what I'm saying.
Like they're potent offense.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So they gave up Higgins out there or that that
that that won two combinations helps?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It helps. Now you just could you could double that.
You could concentrate, Yes, you can concentrate on the shore
foot shot.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, they go through it, k they ain't gonna get no,
just one on ones all day.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
No more.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Nah, not unless they have to, you know what I'm saying.
And he wasn't out there, so they ain't have to.
Like yeah, I'm uh, I'm a little uh, a little ravens.
Yeah about they defense. I see Lamar he getting getting healthier.
They talking about here a hundred. He ain't a hundred.
From the time they said he was a hundred. I
don't see him getting way better than he was when

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they said he was a hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
That was a hundred.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Then he about here about one thirty five, one forty
five right now for sure, and he still ain't a hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
We know this, like we know this.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, now let's talk about let's let's talk about these bills, bro,
these bills, man.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I thought they was getting spanked every time I seen though.
They down twenty one, twenty one, they down twenty one, dude. Yeah,
first drive.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Dude, the Patriots come out there and go eight plays
seventy three yards. I think it was like five runs
for thirty something. May was like three or three for
what forty one? They end up getting a touchdown there,
Bills come out, defense slap them, say three and out,
get up out of here. Patriots come back out there.

(31:26):
I think they might have went like four or five plays.
They end up punting, but again the defense tell the
Bills get.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Up out of here, slap you across your face, three
and out. Patriots come right back out there after that,
six plays, fifty yards, may scrambles for like seventeen.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
On the first one, he completes a couple passes that
go with about twenty five and then he finished it
with a seven yard scramble for a touchdown. Fourteen to nothing. Already,
Buffalo come out there. It looked like they is having
some life, but again they all out. It was about
nine plays. They end up punting the ball. Patriots come

(32:04):
back out there ninety four yards. Eight plays with that
dude Henderson striking out and breaking the band two.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yep, twenty one nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I'm like, yo, this is about to get super ugly
with the Bills finally answer. They score a touchdown with
just under two minutes left. It's seven to twenty one.
I'm like, okay, it's possible we may have a game.
But immediately the Patriots drive rap back down there. Only

(32:37):
reason they ain't score a touchdown is because they was
running out of time they end up going and kicking
the field goal. It's twenty what twenty four two, twenty
four to seven at the half, But hey, Buffalo, come
about that thing.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Bro, that second half, it was a different game. Bruh, bruh.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Them boys ended up going if you add the halftime,
before the halftime, their next from that possession on it,
they scored five straight touchdowns, Bro, five straight touchdowns. They
come out in the first one like, and they drive
down there, and dude, they scored. By the time I

(33:22):
look up, it's twenty eight to twenty four. They ahead, Dude,
I don't I don't know what what went down.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Josh Allen went Josh Allen though he turned crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Twenty eight to twenty four. I'm like, just about to
get ugly, super ugly. Patriots get out there.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
The first play this dude, Henderson strikes off again for
sixty five to the house. They are now up thirty
one to twenty eight. I'm like, we got a fight
on our hands. But I ain't thinking we really got
a fight, because they still ain't stop Buffalo from going.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, they get right back out there and they score
again another touchdown, thirty five to thirty one. They would
trade a couple three and outs from there. I think
that next possession is when they end up going forward
on that fourth down and what's his name bats the
ball down, Buffalo gets the ball back, and they basically

(34:25):
just run the clock out. They get some first downs
and yeah, stude, they win thirty five to thirty one. Bright,
I'm thinking, I don't want to play Buffalo and have
him down by twenty one. Like I hate Josh Allen
if I'm on defense if I'm going to get some

(34:47):
but I love him.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
If he's my quarterback for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Like their halftime adjustments has to be something vicious do
on both sides, Like halftime. Before the half, dude, Allen
was only six of thirty five with a touchdown, and
that came at that very end.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
He finished eighteen for one eighty three three.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Touchdowns halftime, cook with seven for thirty two rushing. He
finished twenty two for one oh seven two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
In the defense. Dude, the defense.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
At halftime had already gave up one hundred and seventy
seven yards rushing. They come back out finished the game
at two sixty four. That's just sixty nine yards more
in the second half. Now, don't forget sixty five of
them came on at one point one. Yes, they again, dude,
he was he was nine for one.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh wait that the half.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Dude only finished fourteen of one point fifty five, adding
on three sacks. He wasn't even sacked in the first half,
only forty seven yards in the second half. Like, I
don't want to be down by twenty one, but if
I gotta be down by twenty one, give me Josh Ally,
gimme whoever is adjusting this, dude. Yeah, on offense and defense,

(36:08):
whatever they're doing, they're seeing something and they're adjusting to it.
Because this is not the first time, Like the coaches
is doing.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Something special over there.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
The players, of course have to go out there and
execute it. But from what they did in the first
half to what they did in the second half, it's
the same players. So it's the execution of the adjustments
of what they done did at halftime, dude, Like you.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Said what it was. In the first half, James Cook
had like seven carries and in the second half he
ended up with twenty carries total.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
He ended up with twenty two mm. They fed that
man the ball fifteen doubled it up the.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Good yet doubled it up in the second half, and
that's the one thing in the offensive line being able
to create those holes. Cook isn't getting touched sometimes until
he's into that second level, you know what I'm saying,
eight yards deep and that dude, he can really run
the balls. So just staying consistent with it. And then
Josh Allen being able to be when you have that
run game, being able to do the play action because
they really have some good tight ends. Their receivers aren't

(37:08):
all too special, but if you being able to have
that run game, being able to do play actions, John
running the rock to Josh Allen, No, a little bit
of everything. Just there. They can do a little bit
of everything, and that's what you love to see. And
then on the defense side of the ball, like you said,
being able to make adjustments, being able to They scored
on them the first three drives twenty one zero and
then you being able to come back in the second

(37:29):
half and just stop that. He had forty seven yards.
Toldal and Drake May is not a bad quarterback. He's
able to dish it and douel it and they be
running some good plays. So that was good to see.
The Bills being able to adjust and then Josh Allen
them down big and like we just going to go
down here, keep it status quote, We're going to start.
We're not just going to make Josh Allen pass it
every time. They doubled up on Cooks runners because they

(37:51):
know that he's eventually going to break something and get
this thing going, so the play action could work, Josh
Allen could run, So I mean it was just a
really good skin.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
They adjusted that halftime like they needed what was necessary
to fix the issue. They're like, yo, we got the players,
we know we can do it. We just have to
adjust and put them in situations where they can actually
be able to make the plays and be successful with it.
So the halftime adjustments were great, Like where was where
was Cleveland's halftime adjustments?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, see, we didn't have time adjustments. We came into
the game with no adjustments for the second drive. We
didn't even know, like where's our where's our first fifteen?
Like I don't think, I don't don't I don't see flow.
But sometimes being set back at the one yard line
having terribles fieldosition doesn't help. But we still got to
be able to start get get off the one yard line,

(38:41):
get a little bit of push with that offensive line.
You we couldn't run the ball count Shawn Jenkins is
getting smacked. So in the second half, we got to
run the ball better. All right, all right, my practice
squad center, please do your best jobs as you can.
Don't don't get beat up out here. And in the
Bears defense, they are not bumps. So them dudes, like

(39:01):
you said, no, they're not gonna to you. I told
you every.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Time he jumped in front of that thing and grabs
the door, I knew, bro, like that was happen.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Can I'll tell you something. And the other pick like
when they were just really and he's forcing forced feeding
into fan and I love it. But that corner we
could have had a pick six. He jumped that ball
hit him right in his hands and he dropped it.
So like just eyeballing. I don't think we had too
much of a game plan going at all. At halftime
adjustments is yeah, that's not what the Browns are doing
right now. So I think Kevin Savanski just the way

(39:34):
we're not running like an organized offense. Nobody looks it
doesn't look fluid. It doesn't look fluid. And how you
come out the second drive of the game and not
be fluid second drive of the game. We're still in
our first fifteen because we had a three and out.
You know what I'm saying, like, let's we gotta know, like,
let's get the flow. What are we doing. That's just
the part that throws me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, like I said, man, you know, Cleveland best issues
over there. Man, I'm you know, hey, I'm I'm you know,
I'm happy to in not mine and I'm I'm.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Glad they got him. That's that's really you know, that's
really what it all comes down to.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Man, the Chargers eliminate the Chiefs from the playoffs, sad
sad day and yeah, sixteen to thirteen. And in that process,
Patrick Mahomes tears his ac L. This is going to
be something that because you know he tore it late.
Now you know he's going to miss That's what I'm saying.

(40:25):
It's going to miss a good part of the season
and not all of it, depending on, you know, what
the process is of that recovery, and you know what
the prognosis is. If it's just the A C L,
if it's something you know, if it's more than just that.
But I think, what is this the first time in
what nine ten years that they haven't been in the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah? How long does acls take? That?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
So if you're talking about you have all the knowledge,
you have all the people to do the correct process
of recovery and all that, you could come back full
it up in like nineteen months like okay, okay, but
it could be shorter, like depending on what you want

(41:17):
to you know, with other you know processes you want
to add to it, you know, stem cells stuff like that,
whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
But dang, so he's ye, he's gonna be he's gonna
be out for a minute.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, it really, like I said, it's really dependent on
what you're First, you got to have a successful surgery.
Make sure it's not too loose, it's not too tight.
You got to make sure in the process of your
recovery you you're able to get like you know, full
extension and all the other stuff, and then you.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Know what you do to help it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
You know, heal faster and you know, go faster trying
to you know, just hurry up and come back, because
it's still the process that your body has to go
through to be able to heal in a timely manner.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
So this this Pat So for me, I'm thinking, like
you said, this is his ninth season in the league,
this is his a cl I think this is kind
of like the halfway point. He got another gut probably
nine more years left, like eighteen year career. This says
the same thing they said Tom Brady tore his and
uh in this night at this nine in his ninth season.

(42:25):
So for me, don't rush him back. He has another
nine years left in his career if he's gonna miss
some games in the first week. Patrick Mahomes, I know
I'm not listening, bro.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
What honestly, if it's me, if it's me, for the
long jevity of my career, you you know I'm taking
you taking off next season, next season, I'm coming back
when I am fully one hundred. Because you got to
realize it, man, You got it that that competitor in
you is going to want you to come back. You're
gonna want to come back, get back out there, help
your team do all that. But dude, this is not

(42:58):
just helping your team. Dude, this is your career. This
is your livelihood. Like this is how you're going to
you know, be able to make your money and you
want to come back one hundred percent full and you're
Patrick Mahomes. They're not going to release you, get rid
of you. You have a games with his contract. Your
play is tremendous. Even though now he's being you know,

(43:19):
he's being pressured. So I think man was sacked five
times last night. He's being pressured, you know, left and right.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Like I'm not.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Going to even if I'm if I'm andy, like, I'm
not pressing this man to come back no time soon
until he is a hundred percent. And I'm not even honestly,
I wouldn't even let him come back broh unless we
are No. I still couldn't they could.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
They have they eliminated now next year? I mean you're
talking about next year, like by the end of the season,
like if they make it to the playoffs, like if
we make it to the playoffs next year. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
He's went through the process of doing the practice and
all that, and yeah, he's one hundred percent and I
could see him doing where and then you gotta realize
the mental like he didn't know that just stepping like
nobody hit him. He did that stepping and just step
wrong and bloom. So now you got to get through
that mental you know, development of being like, Okay, I'm
gonna be all right if I'm not paying attention to

(44:16):
where I'm stating, we were on.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
The same page, like he's gonna be able to take
his time, be able to get right when he's back,
ready mentally and physically, like believes in it, being able
to go through all those practices. It's no rush, but
we're not going to hold him back like no, no, chill, chill, chill, continue,
did your rehab, do all your steps through all this stuff,
but we're not going to force you, Like now Pat,
we need you, no, no, no, take your time. Stuff

(44:40):
is one hundred percent. Hell, it's time for us to.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Come back and we're going next man up. I'm building
this team with the thought process of we're not going
to have him this year, and I'm I'm trying to
take whoever is the next man up, or whoever it
is that I need to pick up to be able
to come in there and give us the best chance
of winning next year, all players included, quarterback, line, whatever

(45:04):
that may be. That that's my process and I'm thinking
like yo, I'm not. I'm not going to have him,
you know, dude, you're talking about December trying to get
him back like.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's a you know, that's that's a that's a that's
a lot. You know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah me personally, like I said, I'm I'm I'm sitting back.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I'm chilling because I need him for the long haul.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I don't need him to come back out here, come
too soon and then really you need him to next
tear that thing up. Yeah, I need him at least
for the next day, you know what I'm saying, Like
for sure being from that process. Now we're looking for,
you know, in the next four years, we're trying to
get the replacement. We're trying to get the guy that's
going to succeed him. You know, you can't wait till
the last minute to try and pick up a guy
that you're going to have, that's that that that should
be there to succeed him.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
You want him to be able to be there, see
what he's doing, learn behind him, get an understanding of.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
What it is, how you run the offense, how he
runs the offense, what he sees like.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
I want him to be.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Coached by this dude, just from sitting there watching him.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
And you know, past going to help him. Yeah, you
know that's that's just what it is, you know. So
you think it could be more last night like like
like the Packers did around year fourteen draft Aaron Rodgers.
When you have Brett Favre, let him watch him learn
under the past three years. Love, I'm saying the same way.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, that's something that we you know, we didn't do.
And another thing Parsons ended up. They believe he tore
his a co against against.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Denver and their loss.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, and that was another one where you see, you know,
he's stepping and from whom again that's another person.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
They just gave him money. Love, Yeah, we're I know
we gave you money.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
But I need you to be able to play out
that money and to put you out here when you're
not one hundred percent, especially as a defender and you
got to adjusting move You're not the one that's a
you know, being adjusted and moved too. Like he has
to adjust to what they do. So that's that quick
step here there. You don't know where your feet go
be process. So you know, I'm praying for all of them,

(47:01):
praying for both of them, but for sure you know
how that Yeah, I'm I'm chilling.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I'm chilling for the year.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I'm doing everything possible to get back to one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'm so happy to at the end of the day
with Micah, like, you know, he got his baby, He
got his at the end of the day, so good.
He's gonna get this year guaranteed. Next year he's gonna
sit out. That's guaranteed. So yes, they're gonna have you
two years, you know what I'm saying. Unguaranteed, But that's
where you're gonna prove it, show him that you still Mike.
You're gonna be making your dough. So that's where I'm

(47:30):
happy he got his bread because they could have released
them and then he wouldn't have had that the second
guarantee year. You know what I'm saying, of money to
be able to now sit out, get itself back right.
He'd been like, nah, I gotta get back. I got
to prove myself, trying to show him up them. No,
you got your bread. Rest get yourself right, because when
you do get back on they're expecting that high performance. Yes,

(47:51):
your chop.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Now you come out there and you rush back you
ain't looking the same. Now they're looking at me. As
soon as we get a chance, we need to let
him go.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Come on, man, you hear three of that deal and
they they now they got you by the by the balls.
But you are you major guaranteed. So that's the good part.
But don't rush back. As soon as you get out there,
they expect you to look like Michael Parsons. Yeah for sure.
A Joe is Monday and somebody somebody playing on Monday
Night that ain't lost since I think, uh, before you

(48:19):
was born. Joe.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
What year was you born?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Joe nineteen eighty nine, oh eighty nine?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, okay, I guess you was born.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I don't think the Pittsburgh Skillers done lost the Monday
night football game since whative? Oh? Man?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, okay, uh huh. And that's what we do. We
got the Dolphins coming into town. We're going to be
doing some dolphin training up here in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
We got we got to hey, we got hey, Joe.
You know what they used to call me, Joe?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
What day used to call you? Called me mister Monday Night? Hey, Hey,
I would they say, Hey, that was mister Monday Night.
That did call me on the broadcast, Joe, they called
mister Monday Night that I performed. Baby, I performed when
it was the lights was on camera.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Action.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Baby, That's what I did.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Look here, man, we're gonna go out here and do
a little bit of dolphin training. Be like, tell them,
you know, come here, put your nose here, you know,
put your nose under my feet, push me in.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Water, do all that right there.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
So it's simple Joe that, Hey, the only thing we
need to do to be the Dolphins man.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Play physical football. Come on, it is December in Pittsburgh.
It's cold out. To show them what December football looks
like in Pittsburgh. Run the ball down in and down out.
Make them tackle in the cold these boys. None of

(49:55):
that stinging on they arms when you're coming through there.
Get me the cold.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I understand. We gotta protect Rogers. We got to protect
the balls. Okay, Now I will say this.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Chubb over there, he's been getting some pressure these last
four days. And how do we negate that we successfully
run the ball. We need to not give him opportunities
to be able to pass for us. And when we
do pass the ball, we need to chip him. Also,

(50:36):
I think we should run the ball out him. And
this is why I think we should run the ball
out him, because when you wasting that energy trying to
fight off these blocks, with all these dudes.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Pressing on you, you don't have that.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Energy to use up for those pass rush opportunities if
you get them. Because if we stay in those situations
where we're not having to hold the ball along, because
we're in third and short situations where we can dunk,
and when they decide to jump something, we pop it
over they head, then we're good. Now the defense first

(51:12):
and foremost, we have to stop the run. Bro We
do not stop the run, we are going to get
our face kicked. In last four games, Miami is averaging
one hundred and ninety four yards on the ground. On

(51:35):
the ground, bro Toa is only having to throw the ball.
I think I average a little over twenty one times
a game. Make them beat us with what they don't
do well.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
We need to make Toa past the ball.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
If I don't see at least eight dudes in the
box every play, we are doing something wrong.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
We ain't doing it right.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
You know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Successfully stop them from what they're doing successfully and make them,
force them, force them.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
To have to pass the ball to correct.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yes, one hundred and ninety four yards over the last
four games, not a fluke, No, that's real.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Against teams that actually was halfway decent and running the ball,
it's still one hundred and ninety four yards as.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
An average dude.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
That's down and back.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
That's down and back on your ass.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
This dude only had.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
To throw the ball on an average of twenty one
times a game. He ain't complete no more than like
twelve thirteen.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Force them.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I don't ben putting nine in the box and go.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Man, it's cold out smoke literally, I'm telling.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You, I got to put it on the money.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I'm with you. And the weather outside is frightful and
I don't know if he's throwing it in the weather
and the elements. And then put everybody in there. Stop
the run, William. This is gonna be a game of
don't let take a man's will let run run run
it at him, and don't let them run it on you.
And we're gonna be able to win the game for show.

(53:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
We don't lose on Monday, not stillers ain't lost the
game since they moved over there, since.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Three rivers three rivers, And you said you lost.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
The Monday night game in that stadium where it was
Hines or Actresship.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
We damn show ain't about to lose one.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Now drop those nuts, stand up and pound these boys out.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
They ain't running the ball. Tell her, tell her debo.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Damn show, bet knock.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I'm gonna be. We're gonna be wat tonight tonight, Joe.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yes, sir, you know what time it is, y'all. You
know what time it is. It's time to play.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Now play a fade present my pride, yo.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
You know how works show it's her.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I got my lineup of picks for you for Monday
night football with the.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Still us. You either play my line up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
You know I do what I could do.

Speaker 3 (54:42):

Speaker 1 (54:43):
It's simple. I got tour for more.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
On the interception goes, they gonna have to pass the
ball because we gonna stop the run. I got the
running back for less because he is not running for
more than eight point on a rush on rush that's
not happened. I got Jalen for more. If he plays,
I think he's kind of questionable. But if he do play,

(55:09):
he's going more because we're.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Gonna need to successfully run the ball.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
And of course with that being the case, game, well
go get more into this now, Joe, tell me what
you go do, and you tell me why if you
go fade me, you fade me, you fade me, Joe, man,
d boy, that man, well you're about to be real disrespectful.

(55:35):
Hey man, take all the see that brown stuff you
getting in your head.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
No, bro, let me tell you. Let me, let me
go play by play. Let me go ahead and uh two,
gonna throw a pick. I'm looking at this a chaan.
I'm looking at this a chaan, and I'm uh, Joe,
eight nine in the box, I'm hoping, I'm that you
hoping what I'm hoping. I don't know if we're gonna
have eight nine in the box, though we do. That's

(56:04):
de bo for the for the love of the game,
and because that's what we shall do. He's not gonna
get over eighteen five. Let's go, Jalen Warren fifty three.
We need all of it. We need everything on this sheet.
Are we gonna get everything? On this sheet. I hope.
So I'm gonna play it.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I'ma just go baby, Joel, play it with your boy.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I'm a player, Jessy, Sir.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Download the app today and use the code debot Joe.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
They get fifty.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollars.
Line up.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Look here, baby, look hey, your mama, here, your bopper,
everybody here. Make sure make sure you go and you
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got some super chats, Joe.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Let's get it your boy.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Danny du Boys donated thirty Depo and Joe.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
What were your top three times to play?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Do you guys prefer to play on primetime or regular one.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Four thirty or eight?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
What you think? Where you go? Ahead?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
First me personally, give me the one o'clock. Dude, I'm
trying to get up out of there.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Hey, hey, talk to me nicely if you really want
to know. I want one o'clock. I want one o'clock
every Sunday, just for my preparation. I wake up, I
know it's time to get ready for the game. I
got to start getting my stretching, my everything ready, you know,
what I'm saying, like it's right to it any other thing.
I can't do anything but like think about the game,

(57:51):
sitting there, work, like looking at my note. It's just
too much, no time, it's too much. But late night
games it's cool for everybody because primetime every ready get
to see you. But my person, small opinion, i want
one o'clock every Sunday because I'm waking up. I'm ready
to get to the stadium. I don't have to sit
there and be stressing all day. I can't talk to
nobody during the game. All I can think about is game.
It's fun for everybody else, just.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
If it's a home game.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Now you're not.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Now you're going home. Everybody want to talk and the listen.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Man, I'm trying. I don't want to talk to you.
I don't want to do nothing. I love you guys
so much, but I'm really like locked in right now.
So the one o'clock games, just to get it out,
do your thing. I'm I'm so focused on Sundays. There's
nothing else to talk about but the game. And then
until after the game, I could be.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Back normal, chilling and talking.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you, baby, Monday Night
treated me right though.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
As you said, Joe, Monday Night, your boy, your boy
was pretty decent. I say, you know, nine and a
half sex, three interceptions, Oh my god, Forest fumbles, Oh
my god, I'm working in the two records.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Again.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Now, basically that's you know, that's that's kind of how
your boy wrote.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying what I
was saying.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Hey look at it back, Hey look at it.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Oh we got Covenant Life Life, we got Covenant Life coming,
Life donated twenty. Thank you again. So, Joe, you're basically saying,
being a Browns fan, it's like going to a family
reunion and no one brings some food. At this point,
burn everything. Bengals, y'all had one job. Sorry as stealers.

(59:30):
Defense show up, thank you. Defense got to show up.
Defense got to show.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Up, got to Yeah, man, I feel you being a
Browns fan. I mean yeah, I mean, no one brings food,
but like we got Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett brings food.
You got certain players.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
That get some potatoes olid with raisins in it.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
No Miles Garrett is bringing turkey, ain't bringing no raisins.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I'm saying you might bring some potatoes out with somebody
looking like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
You know, somebody go get out of salad man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
That's who brother, Salad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Joe Brother, It's Monday night football boy in Pittsburg. Now
listen here, I gotta shout out my boys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Ben pouncing peasy. They getting inducted into the Stillers Haller on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
That halftime tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Hey, make sure y'all watch the game and those at
the game you better be loud and proud because we're
about to go ahead and stump these boys out. We
want to thank you guys again for joining us on this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Episode the Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Please make sure your liking subscribe and don't miss Monday
Night Football Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
We're gonna be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Here tomorrow talking about how we dog walk, put leashes
on dophins, drug them out the water, and Peter looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Us because we done stump them to dust.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Joe Bell to Tushy. You already know what time it
is catch us hit them out that we talk about
how the Stillers whooped tush

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