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October 31, 2025 60 mins

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens defeated Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins. Later, discuss the rumors surround the Philadelphia Eagles interest in trading for Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders cryptic comments, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones attention being pulled away from team, and breakdown the biggest matchups heading into Week 9 of the 2025 NFL season!

00:00 - Intro
03:30 - Ravens beat Dolphins
21:00 - Shedeur sends cryptic message
22:27 - Good idea to trade Myles Garrett?
31:20 - Steelers vs Colts preview
39:25 - Travis Hunter placed on IR
41:00 - Jerry Jones not focused on Cowboys
50:00 - Deebo's Halloween fears

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys
like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How
you're doing today, Joe, doing good, Debo, doing.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Good, good Friday, good Friday. Saw some good football yesterday
coming off, and then I went this morning, my kids
had a little play at school, saw both of my boys.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Man was so good. So I'm feeling good this morning.
Not gonna question, no question. I want to get off
top of the morning. I want to tell my son, Henry,
he is a Halloween baby. I want to tell you
happy sixteen gag, Happy birthday, Henry.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Love.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
You wouldn't be who I am without you. You saved
my life, you and your brother. I appreciate everything that
y'all do for me, and everything that I do for
y'all is just what's supposed to be done. Baby, Come on, man,
I love this Debo. Let's get into this. Let's get
into this. Ravens Dolphins. Ravens went out there, man, and
they put uh, they put a little something on them.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I ain't gonna lie, man. The first uh, the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I was thinking, like, you know, maybe maybe the you know,
maybe the Dolphins got a chance. You know, they started off,
they had a little short field they got they got
the ball in midfield with that with the kickoff, and
then he hit Waddle twenty yards on the first play.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
You know what's so crazy, man?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
You get you get the ball in midfield now and
you get a good chunk play.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You and field goal range already once you cross the fifty. Now,
soon as you cross the field goal range. When I
was playing with the thirty five, you was trying to
protect the thirty five. Now as soon as you cross half,
did you then they got three?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, for sure, Baltimore, you know they're able to hold
up after that, and they hold them to three.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
They kick, they kick a field goal, they get.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Three points, and then you know, Baltimore comes out there
and Lamar he had like a little little bad throw.
I think that's the only bad throw he had on
that third down, low and outside.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
So they got to be doing a basically.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know, three and out, and you know, after you
have a few weeks off, you know, that's what happens.
You know what I'm saying. They punt the ball Miami
gets it back and.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
They started this. When they started, this is like when
what bad teams do? You know?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't, Yes, it is starting, but they still just
you know, the second play they got they got the
fun before us. You know, they ripping at the ball
all that, and yeah, understandable, but you still got to
be able to hold onto that. They give up the
ball right there, and I believe it was in their
own territory.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
What was it.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Inside the twenty? Oh yeah, for sure inside the twenty.
Baltimore gets the ball. Of course, they go for it
on fourth down and he throws a touchdown to Mark
Andrews And now you know it, don't it done?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Flipped upside down?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
That was to play. No, I wasn't. I wasn't saying
that was what bad teams doing.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That play.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
That was a good defensive effort that dude, he ripped
the ball out. They were sports tackling. So that was
a good play by the Ravens defense. They stay they
played a lot better in that game for show.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know what I noticed though, as soon as Miami
got the ball the first play, oh dude, hit nineteen,
it was like they first played.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It was it was like they was like moving it.
You know what I'm saying. It was like the first one.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And then I think later on in that same drive
they got a you know, they got one for like
about twenty two or something. That was the two big
plays in that drive. And they go for it on
fourth down, fourth and one, and again, like you were saying.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
This is when I was saying, what bad teams do.
You get the false start and you're getting a little momentum,
you're making plays like you're thinking that we can get
another store, let's let's get some points on the board,
and you get a false start which throws you all
the way off. And then even to make even more worse,
you missed you missed the field goal.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
No they made that one.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh made that one.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think that was the one they made. No, they
made the first one, right, they made the first one.
He missed this one. So I'm saying, like, yeah, because
it could they had. You know, it could have been
six seven.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, it could have been.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
It could have been.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And then they then they missed, they missed the field goal.
So that's where coach had every right there couple McDaniels
was pissed.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh yeah, the first time I seen something. You know
what I'm saying. It was real.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I was like, okay. And the other thing was the
play calling two was looking pretty good. I was loving
how they were doing the run passes. Was doing that
like fake handoff. There was a lot of bangates. There
was a lot of like posts right behind people's heads.
As soon as you fake something, he s throw it
all the time. So they were doing they were hitting plays,
but they weren't able to capitalize and get any points.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, and Baltimore get back out there.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And we hadn't heard from likely but on that third down, dude,
he went on ahead end of the first quarter hitting
for what was it about thirty.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Five something like that. Yep up the sideline, no question.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
A few plays later Mark Andrews, that man show up again,
twenty yard touchdown. How do you run into it that place?
How do you run into each other? And you're not
you're not looking ahead of you like ain't nobody.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So it's that's what I'm saying. We used to call
the joint and said no, no, it's called tailpipe. You
gotta get directly behind your behind the tight end because
if you're directly behind the tight end, if he don't
hit it. You won't hit it if you're on top
of him at all. They're trying to make you collide
into each other. And if you don't get directly behind
the dude, we do drills like people. You gotta like

(05:17):
on the drag routes on those crosses. If you don't
get directly behind your guy, you're gonna run smack into somebody.
Because that's what that's how, that's how the play is
set up to do. It's so difficult, you know what
I'm saying. So if you don't get directly behind them,
you're gonna run bam, just like they did right into
each other. So it's a technique that the DB's we
always get taught that because rub routes all that. If
you don't get directly behind you guy and then come

(05:37):
up then pop up on the other side, you gotta
do that, no question.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Now it's fourteen three, Miami gets the ball back. I
think tour he ended up hitting Waddle, I think it was.
It was for like thirty five forty something like that.
But they called a tripping. That wasn't a tripping, was
not a trippings.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Did you see how pisty was, Yes, he has every
right to be pissed because the coach is yelling at him.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
He's like, I'm like, as a coach, how you don't
look and see he's telling you he didn't do that.
How you don't look and look at the top of
the thing and say, hey, like hey, okay, I see it.
He just takes off, you know why, because everybody is
under fire over there right now.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, that's a huge momentum shift where they don't
get that points. Now you add on top of it,
you missed three the first time, so we could be
six seven. Now you can't get you can't get back
ahead of the chains, you know what I'm saying. And
that could have been a potential touchdown, you know what
I'm saying. No, for sure ten points where it might

(06:42):
have been thirteen fourteen after this, but they end up punting.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, that's that's that's that right there is Unfortunately, because
it's not the fault of the player, like the Dolphins,
they did what they had to do. That's just a
terrible call. But he slipped, He wasn't trying to trip.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
He didn't even swing his feet to.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
You, didn't even try to say he didn't even kicks
leg up here. You could tell when dudes are falling,
they get that extra kickup. He's falling. He's just falling,
and that's all it was. That's like a cup block,
if anything. Like, I don't understand that. Baltimore, get back
out there. The Dolphins stand up. They sack him on
the first play, you know what I'm saying, and then
I believe.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
On the third down where due one of the you know,
a flag, he gets some unsportsman like conduct spasm on
the raft right that puts him back, you know a little,
a little further.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
So they end up punting the ball.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Miami comes and they get a good return, dude to
the twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Add on top of it, they had a.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Holding penalty Baltimore did that's rare, which gave him an
extra ten yards put him at the twenty nine, like, dude,
and they cannot convert and get a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
They go for a field goal and it's six to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, dude, you did that. Those they're not not being
able to get any like real you in great field
position and then in field goals, getting out of field
goal range and then just not getting touchedout you're playing
against Lamar Jackson. They're scoring points on the other side.
You're not going to beat them with field goals.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And then the defense they get you know, my well,
Miami's defense get right back out there. They force the
three and out, Miami get the ball back. They start
driving down the field. I think two of his waddle
for a nice third down complete some thing. It was
like for maybe fifteen on the third down. Then there
was another one later on the wrong way for about
twenty five twenty four or something like that. The running

(08:31):
back he got something about fifteen twenty like that.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
They go for it on the fourth and two.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
They don't make it because it just looked like they
had some type of miscommunication going.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
On, don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
And right then and there, I don't even know if
I go for that on fourth and two, like you
kick it. It's nine to fourteen. You already I mean,
I understand he missed one, but you already had had
a missed opportunity here and there. You don't want to
keep leaving potential, you know, points out, to.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Keep leaving with nothing. Yeah, you got to leave here
with something like.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like I got Yeah, like you said I'm leaving here
with something like at some point you got to leave
there with something, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and
then Baltimore again, they go out there in Miami's defense,
they able to hold up like they're doing what they
need to do, get you the opportunities to get the
ball back, and I believe that was when Tua got

(09:30):
sacked to end the half. But at the same time,
you know, when you look at it, the missed opportunity
to messed up call with the missed opportunity, the miss
field goal, like they could actually mess around had and
had been up going into the halftime, dude, Like like
when you really look at it halftime, it could have
been something totally different. I mean it was only one

(09:53):
of what six on third down, only had about one
hundred yards one hundred and ten yards something like that.
But the big thing is there was one to one
in the.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Red zone, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's they only had double yards like two twenty five.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
The running back was doing them.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Twelve for sixty seven another five, uh for thirty five receiving,
but they owing two in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Bro. Yeah, you know how that is the execution knows
that red zone efficiency. Once you get down there getting
points seven if you leave with nothing, leave with zero,
you know what I'm saying, like not getting three points.
And then you're playing against the Ravens where they they're
scoring touchdowns. They're getting down there with Andrews, they're marching
the ball there and they're getting points off of it,
and you know, and they're taking time off the clock.

(10:38):
You're not gonna have that many possessions in general, so
you better use than wisely. Because they're scoring on their possessions,
they're taking clock off, they're taking time off the clock.
And then when you get the rock back, you're looking
nuts when you can't score.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, and then the second half, Baltimore gets the ball back,
they come out and you know, they basically work their
way down the field, third down and mars belong them
because they playing. Man ain't nobody paying no attention. They
can't see it. He get thirteen. Like when you look
at that drive, I think he was like six no,
seven for seven, like ended it with a three yard touchdown.

(11:14):
It's it's twenty. It's twenty. He didn't even miss Like
it's twenty one to six. Now off rip Bammy gets
back out there, and now the defense starting to show
up the uh the Ravens defense used to hearing about
and seeing. So first play they get a sack. Second
second place is I think it was a negative run.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
And the man Kyle Hamilton, all them boys, they was
getting up in the line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
They punt the ball right, you know, right back off
and I'm like, whoa, this like this is like Ravens
defense that you've been you know, you've been coming accustomed
to seeing like it's looking like that.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Baltimore get the ball back full players, bro they go.
They go full play sixty yards just what no, just
under just over two minutes.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Marve bruston m again a hot two for two forty eight
with one of them being a nine yard touchdowns. It's
twenty eight to six, and you know it's not looking good.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's ugly from there. It's ugly from there.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, Miami. They come back out again the first place.
I don't know why, but they get like a nice
game on the very first place, and then after that
Baltimore stood up basically three and out. They end up
well except for the little first first down. They end
up punting the ball and Baltimore get the rock back.
You let Derrick Henry Peel went off of what about

(12:42):
thirty five forty.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's when they started just giving it to him.
He was thirty five to forty for shut They.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Still stiffing up like that. Miami's defense still stiffing up.
You know, they made him, they forced him to punt,
you know. So I believe Miami gets the ball back
end of that third quarter. They had that They had
like a twenty eight to thirty yard game on that one,
and then they get the completion by the running back

(13:08):
that got reversed.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
He catched the ball for twenty two and reviewed it
said it wasn't said it wasn't a catch. They end
up going I think a couple downs of fourth downs.
They go for a fourth and one, a fourth and eleven.
Miami actually converts, which was like that was that was
wild like, and.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Then they fumbled the rock dude.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Waltimore recovers the thing, dude, and I think it's just
over what ten eleven minutes left in the fourth quarter.
You're down, you know, twenty twenty eight six, you know,
and from there, the defense, miamis defense. They go out,
they hold up, but I mean, I'm really thinking it's

(13:56):
too late, and then too it lets me know that
it's too.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Late because he goes immediately I.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Think on the second play, second down and throws a
pick yep. And from there, once Baltimore gets the ball back,
they just six minutes and some change. Just hold the ball,
run the clock out like ball game, ball game, dude,
Like you don't want to know what happened, Like what
happened Lamar Jackinson, Lamar Jackson happened.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yes, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Lamar Jackson happened.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, Lamar went with eighteen to twenty three, two hundred
four yard photo.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
No question. And then the defense stood up too. Yes,
Baltimore Ravens defense fine.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Second half, dude, was crazy, Like Baltimore just came out.
Second half, they went back to back tuddies. Then the
defense started playing more like the defense that we used
to seeing from Baltimore, even if it first half bro like.
They gave up to twenty five and the game only
ended with Miami having I think three thirty three thirty
two talking about two quarters, they barely gave up just

(15:04):
over one hundred yards and some change.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yep. And even when we said too the benber don't break.
Like even when they did make plays like Chan did
get off he was the Tour was hitting a lot
of those bang posts like for those big plays to
waddle twenty four yard games, seventeen eighteen yard games. But
they weren't getting any points when they got down to
gritty in the red zone. Either Miami messed it up
or the Ravens did something where they got to stop

(15:27):
and got.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
The off the field.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
They covered it better, they covered it better in the
second half. They put more pressure on Tour. No, I
think I think that was the big excuse me, that
was that was the big the big difference. But like Miami,
you you can't go oh for three in the red zone, brother, No,
you can't like just have missed opportunities like that. You know,

(15:50):
you're able to gain a whole bunch of yards, but
it don't matter if you can't put no points on
the board.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
And then you know penalties, you know, well with the
one that wasn't a penalty, well yeah, that shouldn't have
been a penalty. Like I said, that's a you know,
that's a big momentum, you know, turn you know, for sure.
Like I said, this was the first time that I've
seen McDaniel's show any kind of flair anger of any sort,

(16:16):
McDaniel's of any sort, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yo, they got a lot of jobs on the line
over there, would you think? No?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
For sure? Them dudes is definitely. They're fighting for their lives,
and i'd really like to see at least McDaniels showing
that he cares, you know what I'm saying, being genuine,
and that's the time that the coach is supposed to spass.
You know what I'm saying. Pre snat penalties, those are
on us. Those are just straight discipline. You just didn't
hear what was going on. And we're trying to make
these plays is four for one, We're going for it.
We need you to stay on side. So I was

(16:44):
glad to see that that coach has some coach showing
some passion, some emotion that it was trying to like
that that it meant something to him.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Breaking news from Adam Chefners right now, right now, right now,
ESPN sources, Miami Dolphins and general manager Chris what's that
name Greer met this morning and mutually agreed to part
waits Greer has been with the Miami Dolphins since two
thousand and has served as their general manager since twenty sixteen. Well,

(17:15):
that's why everybody was a little hot under the collar.
Looks like we're about to go here and clean out,
clean out everything over there. Yep, that's that's what it's
looking like to me. Well, that's what it is. It
ain't even it ain't even another, it ain't even another.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Look, it's happening in real time, deo.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
No question, for real real time.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like, yeah, as we speak, brother, dude, hold on hit
him another one man. Dolphins Senior personnel executive executive Champ
Kelly now will head the Dolphins decision leading up to
and past Tuesday's NFL trade deadline. Per sources, Kelly is

(17:58):
the new interim g M. They're about to make some moves,
they say. I guess that's what it's. That's what it
sounds like.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Hey, that's why they was all going bookoo on that sideline. Baby.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
We got to win, Hey, we gotta win or everybody going,
everybody gone, We're all gone.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
We're all out of here. Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Hey, man, speaking of winning, man, let's let's let's head
over here to cleaning the door.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Come on, we're talking about hey man. They said they
said he let out some something a little little cryptic.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
He said, I got I gotta, I gotta get ready
big ready.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
What you what you think that means?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Joe? See, so it's by week and he's not staying
uh and he's staying in Cleveland, So I think it's
not it's just he gotta get ready, big ready. He's
the second string quarterback. He's making sure that he's getting
his back right. He's locked in. He wants to get
all the film study, all of the time in there
that he can get because if and not if, but win.
But Dylan Gabriel is still a starting quarterback. He knows that.

(18:53):
But it's not looking too good. And he knows from
the outside and even if his head coach doesn't want
to man, if Dylan keeps, he doesn't have too much longer.
He got this bye week coming off of this, he's
probably gonna get another two.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
He's getting the two weeks to get good film, good process.
And if you don't ball out, shr door knows like
your least from the coach, he can't say much longer,
then it's gonna be my time to get out there,
and I love the way he's just locked in.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's not going nowhere for the bye week. He's trying
to show the coaches and he knows that he knows
that his time is coming up, and he's not trying
to do anything to interfere with the process. So I'm
not saying that it be in any bad way. He's
saying he just got to stay big ready.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Like's not saying that they done told him something in
the background that he's going to be this.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
No, He's like, yo, I can see the right on
the wall like everybody else can see.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Why would I do anything that would give them or
him Stefanski opportunity to say, well, you.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Didn't come here for this.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, I'm the Eagle's showing interest in Miles Garrett, like
Joe what he smart move for them?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
The trade Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I know, and especially to the Eagles, because end of
the day, the Eagles, those first round picks that they're
talking about giving us, they're gonna be within the end
of the first round where you're not gonna get a
Miles Garrett. And at the end of the day, when
you do have Miles four years, one sixty and he's
giving you everything he's got to give you. He's not
just knowing that he wants to win, but he's still

(20:24):
forming at a high level every week. Five sacks last week.
You're gonna get Miles Garrett's leadership, You're gonna get his production.
He's gonna work like he's broke. We see contracts coming
out now where you know Michael Parson is making forty
six million dollars a year. We got other defensive ends
making forty five million dollars a year. It's not like
that that forty million a year is market You're getting
a steeze market value.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You set the standard in his steel for what you
got Miles, so it's not going down, it's only going up.
So for us to be able to keep him at
that number for the next three years and be able
to have him, we could build around that. We can't.
We're not gonna get another Miles with the twenty eighth
pick in the first round of the three drafts coming up,
I don't think so. So just keep a mouse there
at this price point, and you got to figure some

(21:06):
other ways to go build the team in roster, because
if you want to get a nice team, you don't
get rid of your best player.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't think it's a smart move for Cleveland to
do that, but thank you, it is Cleveland. So I
want to say this to you, guys. Go ahead, do
not give them Miles Garrett. Okay, if you do, I'm
going to start a petition against you to try and
get every last one of you guys fired. I don't

(21:36):
give a damn if they give you ten first round picks,
because you ain't gonna get nothing for those first round
picks for the next five, six, seven, eight years anyway,
because you're gonna put something over there in Philly that
can't nobody do nothing with on a consistent basis. Okay, Like,
do not do that. And yes, this is selfish. This

(22:00):
is very selfish to me. I do not want you
to do anything. Although it would help us in division,
it ain't gonna help us in the long run. Like,
don't do it. I don't give a damn what you get.
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
But it's Cleveland, so they might do it. I don't.
I hope, I hope they don't do it. I don't
think they're gonna do it. But that's what good teams do.
They're always trying to get better like the Eagles. All
I'm saying is this just more like kudos to you,
Like I understand you know, like what kind of player
he is. If he's fluster trying to get out of there,

(22:37):
I would do the same thing they're doing, Like just
ask go knock on the door, like see what's up
over there?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You can't even knock on my door. I got something
called no trespassing. If you step up, I'm treating you
like like like Texas, you step on my land, you
will be shot. I come over here talking No Miles Gearedtt,
nothing like that, dude, Like you got your money. Look,
Detroit just gave Hutchinson what four year eighty million? Yes,

(23:04):
what are you talking about? That's money money, That's what
you're getting at that end, Dude. They gave me for
a year. They're doing the right thing. They're getting these
nice short contracts. You know what I'm saying. They're making
sure that I'm giving you that money right there in
your prime, you know what I'm saying, Like so I
can get the most out of it.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
May end up, you know, when the time come, if
the coaches is smarter or whatever. That may be, or
depending on how he moves, you may end up having
to lose that guy a year or two before you
know he's done.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Being able to give you what you need.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like look at Tom Brady, Like it was a couple
of years before he go to you know, he go
over there to Tampa and another one. But I think
that was a move they were trying to make before
the time, you know, got to a point to where
they thought they wouldn't be able to, you know, get
anything for him. I don't know, so and you know
what the you know, what is something else that I like?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
In Detroit, the old coordinator what's his name, John John
John Moore said he's failed the receiver Williams, you know,
And I like it.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
The reason this is the reason I like it, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Very few coaches will admit when they haven't done something
supremely or or not even supremely, they haven't done something
to the best of their abilities. Yeah, a player that
is still currently with them, some people can look back
on it and say, oh, yeah, you know, I could
have did. But being there and actually having a coach

(24:38):
that's willing to do that, like that's that's unreal.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Huge that's huge. It's for a player like to Fund
to stand up for you, you know what I'm saying,
and especially to the media, for him his numbers not
being what they are, and it's not to his fault,
like like an AJ Brown type, like knowing that his receiver,
like his numbers aren't what they are. But you got
your coaches coming out there speaking on your behalf saying, man,
I got to do a better job of getting this ball.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
It's not on him at all, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's some one of the players, Like there's no reason
why we can't get the ball to Jameis Williams. So
having a coach like that make you feel good for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then something else, Dude, that Detroit does. I won't
even say it's Detroit. I'll say it's Dan Campbell. I
think he does the right thing by putting people in
the right position. And when I say that, I say
hiring players. Yeah, we talked about this that are actually
players that played that position when you look at the
whole roster, Dude, like coaches, you hiring coaches that played

(25:38):
the game that played the position that they're going to coach.
Scotty Montgomery is the wide receivers coach. He was a
wide receiver. The Shay Townsend. My dude, he's the DV coach.
He was a dB. You got Farley o line, you
have Shepherd, he's the DC. He was a linebacker. Hell
Mark Brunell, Dude is the quarterback coach. Quarterback like even

(26:02):
you know, go to the running running back coach. Choice
he was a running back. Like they do that and
you can keep going and going and going. I mean
even with their I believe offensive and defensive assistance. Dude,
Braggorkowski is one of the offensive assistants. And you got
Caleb Collins, he's one of the defensive assistants. Dude, like

(26:22):
you you do this. This is what a lot of
people don't understand this. You get automatic buy in. You
know what you got automatic buy in for me is
that coach Butch was my linebacker coach. Coach Butch played
ten years in the league. He played the position I'm playing.
And when you get that, the buy in is real.
Because you played the position, you went through what I'm

(26:45):
going through. You understand the nuances of it and the
things that you have to do that are as they say,
quote not in my range of my position. You know
what I'm saying, Like when saying I don't tack, well,
I'll cume. No, that's part of which you have to do.
So it doesn't matter because now I know he's done

(27:05):
what I've done.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
He can tell me the things. You know what I'm
saying that.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I can, I can, I can I can get from
him and the nuggets and know that, you know what,
He's not just feeding this to me because he said,
that's this is what I gotta do. You build coaches
like that, and you get coaches like that, yes, give
me You're going to lose some of those guys like
That's that's just that's just what it happens.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know what I'm saying, and I understand. I understand
it very well.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And that's why Dan Campbell has such a fruitful coaching tree, dude,
because that that's part of his responsibility. Bring guys in
and and and and and make more. You know, hell,
go to the Bible, bro, just as the you know,
people who have accepted their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

(27:53):
due is supposed to spread the good news and bring
more people. Jesus himself said, dude, what was it Matthew
twenty eight nineteen through twenty Go therefore make disciples of
all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father
and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching
them to observe all that have, all that I have,

(28:17):
can well all that I have command you, dude, you
got to be able and ready to make disciples, like
and he's doing that.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Dude, he what tree seven.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Years in and he already got a coaching tree like
that is what three four head coaches something like that
to mentioning guys that have left and moved up from
positional coach to coordinators.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Like it's like, that.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Is that is that is what has to be you know,
that is what has to be done. That's just how
it's done.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Dude, No, for sure. And that's when you said this
coaching tree was just still as playing the coast home
on Sunday. Oh yeah, dude, Like it's what you're thinking.
We don't think what you're thinking.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Deep I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm thinking we in hell
of trouble. That's what I'm thinking, because like I said,
we have played trash. We are trash. We're well thirty
of rank defense. We're trash bro right now, right as

(29:20):
somebody said, toting that rock like crazy running, dude, it
upsets me to even think about it. I don't want to.
I'm just hoping. I'm hoping we just don't get embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
See, I believe this is the twentieth reunion for the
two thousand and five Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Okay, this is when everybody coming back.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Everybody coming back. Everybody come back.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Bruh, please and your and hey the one that we
wanted Detroit up there in Detroit where your boy he
over there, he built He's building a legacy over there, dude,
he's building a legacy over there.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
What I'm not. I'm not optimistic about this game. I
would be one honest with you.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I don't see how we I don't see how we
can win, given how we've played.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
The whole season. I think they're watching it though.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I feel like you're being you're speaking, You're you're speaking
realistically right now. I think my.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Heart will not let me say something foolish right now,
like we're going to go and win and dog walk
and the no.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, I'm just hoping we don't get embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That's a damn shame as a steller, as an organization,
as a person that's played there for fourteen to fifteen,
I'm hoping that we don't get embarrassed when it used
to be. Hey, I'm waiting for us to go and
get one of those AFC Championship hats mm hm, getting

(31:11):
to the playoffs and be sitting there ready to play
at home in the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, it's it's a little.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
We don't get embarrassed and we actually I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You know why you say that? Do you know what
I can think? You know what I'm thinking about? Why
you feel like this too? Because it's the embarrassing part
is it's not like you know, we can't we can't.
We're not worried about its being able to kind of
figure a way to score points. We know we got
a rob we know offense is getting right, we're getting
other pieces. But it's just that we have all the
players on defense and we're still right now ranked the worst.

(31:45):
So just statistically speaking, like knowing like if we go
out there and they're bringing in Jonathan Taylor, they're bringing
in they're averaging thirty three point eight points a game.
Right now. You know what I'm saying, and that's the
number one scoring offense in the league, and that coming
into the crib. So and we giving thirty something up
to Cincinnati. Come on, yeah, yeah, I feel I hear

(32:06):
you as y'all. Because you gave them Joe, you probably
gonna get it, don't see, don't issue going over there,
don't worry. That's not that's that's not here nor there.
Good man, that's not here nor there. You're doing real good,
de bo.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'm drinking teachers, you see, y'all get my voice.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Going to.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But uh with me.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
The one the hope that I have, and the reason
why I do have hope is because the names on
the back of their jerseys. I do believe that the
people that we do have on the team are good
enough to get the job done. That's not the question.
They just need to do it.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You made me, you made me, you made me call you.
You got to call me.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Son potential and what you were don't add up to
ship if you don't go out there and play.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I know that's what I feel you. I feel you,
I feel you. But I believe that they can do it.
So I hope that now everybody.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
My son James Harrison out there, same name, all that
on the back of the jersey.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm not gonna get the results that you got for me. No,
I said, they gotta go do it for themselves. Were
saying the same thing, Debo. I'm just trying to figure
out a way that they're gonna be able.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
To do it, like they know, Joe, you tell me
how they gonna be able to do You tell me,
you give me a realistic approach, how they gonna.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Be able to do it, knowing how to them play
all year? All right? Literally, everybody do they one to eleven.
Everybody do their job. It's not too hard. I'm thinking
that people are doing trying to do other people's stuff,
like just win your one on one if you can't
win your one.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Are they trying to do other people's stuff? Or are
they just being told different things? Or is it we
are like is it are you're being told different things?
Because like I don't know, I can't tell if it's
like you said, when I see certain stuff like this,
I know, when you get blue off the ball and

(33:56):
you're back there with the on this that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes. And then so when you see people you know, Debo,
when you run the play and you freeze it and
you see somebody man running scott free like you can
want and kind of see. I just don't need to
see I errors, I discipline people running. Don't get beat
to me.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Sometimes you only got ten on the field too, So.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
See, okay, see that's that's that's that's that's not that's
not acceptable. That's junior varsity. That's coach. He would say,
that's JV. We can't have JV things.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Going on out there, like how you don't call the
time out.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's JV.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's JV.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's JV.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Even if the player don't see it, like I mean,
even the coach don't see it. The player is sitting
right there. You should know who's standing next to you.
Who should you know you're down one? Huh no question,
mm hmm. You're supposed to be running a combo.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah. Do the do the routine things routinely, Debo, that's
what they got to do.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Do the routine things routinely.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I ain't even lie to you. Man, that's a lot
of lip service right now.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Is the standard.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Standard the standard? The standard? It is?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I don't what's the.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Standard five hundred.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh no, you want to playoff games in twenty sixteen
man dead Man? Yeah, man, I was playing then. I
feel you I've been doing for what some years? Yeah man,
for debo.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I feel the standard now we don't lost. It ain't
the same one that I knew.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, I know for sure. I'm telling the d I'm
there's there's nothing really to talk. There's nothing really to say. Uh,
you know, it's bad. They gotta do better, they have
to play better. And it's more we keep talking about it,
the more mad you're gonna get brouh.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I want to because I don't want you to.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I can't hear. I can't. I can't.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't
sit here and lie to myself.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I can't know for sure that's what we But you
know what I need you honesty. I need you to
be honest. Dude.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
As bad as I want them to win, I wouldn't
I wouldn't better dollar on it. No, I mean I
can use that dollar for some penny candy or something
I get. I get at least whatever. I give you
A hundred pieces of candy.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
You've been watching the games, d Bo. You could tell
like that if you if you're being honest with yourself,
you could be like the Indianapolis Costs. They've been playing
better than the Steeler. How many times they don't?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
All year?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Is it even ten? I don't know if they have
a punter on the roster, Like, yeah, we're gonna see.
Oh my god, Jonathan Taylor leads the league in rushing
yards and touchdowns. We're gonna see. But there still is
no that.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Just depresson, man, listen, they don't move on, Brad. We're
depressing news. Oh no, dude. Jaguars place Travis Hunter on
an i R due to a knee injury and now
will miss a minimum four games.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I guess they placed him on injury reserve to come back.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, how hard you think that's gonna hit them?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Let's stay next four games. I'm just sad for Travis Hunter,
super sad. How did this happen? You know how happened?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I do not have no clue how it happened.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Brother, you too crazy? Four games? Man? Just all they
just don't rush it back. Don't rush him back. He
gets one hundred percent. It's way way way too young
to be trying to force itself to rush back full recovery.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
You're gonna be good recovery.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Make sure you come back because you know you haveing,
you adjusting on that ball a little bit when when
you throw it.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, so we don't we don't want to, you know,
we don't want.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
To do nothing.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I guess he was injured in practice or yesterday. Brother,
So this is this is fresh, Yes, this is freshing. Yes,
they probably got him twisted the turn for balls in practice.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh for sure. He out there, young but going hard,
trying to do both. Love them, but yeah, I think
they just as long as they just take that time
with him, don't rush them back. He got way way.
He has a long career.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Oh yeah, he got a long career. Long as he
can stay healthy. Brother, m he can stay healthy. That
that hurts Jared Jones. He said he's shifting. He's shifted
his priorities right now to something more lucrative. Jarry said,
there's a hundred billion present value with natural gas out there.

(38:51):
That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather
than to rather than trying to fix our defense with
the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, people, Oh my gosh, hey, listen, listen.
I'm trying to tell y'all, Jerry. Jerry has been letting
y'all know from day one. Listen, even when he got
the Cowboys, it was an investment opportunity for him to

(39:13):
make to make money.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
He's letting you know that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
The only thing I care about is making money. As
long as I'm making money and everything is going fine.
You Cowboy fans out there think he cared about this team.
He don't care about this team. He cared about making
that money. And right now, Jerry said, Hey, I got.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Thirteen billion over here, sitting here, and I got them boys,
and I got all the Cowboy fans saying we're going back.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
We about to win it this year, and y'all keep
buying the tixas and spending the money.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Jerry, I got that money coming. But you know what
I got right now. I got an opportunity for a
more lucrative offer. Team might be worth.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Twelve thirteen billion, but I got a chance to get
a hundred billion. Hey, sit back, we don't care about
this right now.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I'm a businessman.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
First, okay, And he got y'all I'm so entangled as
Cowboys fans, y'all, think he really cares. No, he's the
gym and does everything because he wants to be in
control and make sure he can get as much money
as he can. Listen, you could go to the Cowboys
practice and watch them practice.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
You can pay to get in there.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
To watch them practice, dude, Like, how many teams do that?
I do not know who does that because if I
was I'm not, But if I was in that position
and I was playing the Cowboys, I might just send
somebody that had no representation with my football team on
the ever to go and sit and watch practice so
I can.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Know what to tell him. A players, y'all go do
when we play y'all, Joe what Joe? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Joe?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I think you're on the money with It's all about
the money. Jerry Jones is a smart businessman. He bought
his team to make money for one hundred and fifty
million whatever it is, not that's worth ten thirty thirteen
billion dollars. So end of the day, he does want
to have a good product on the field, Like, don't
get me wrong, he wants, but the main thing is

(41:03):
the main thing, and that's making money. Continuously handover fists
like Gibo said, having people come to practice, the jerseys,
the stadium, the billion dollar play pin like he's making
so much money, and then his main thing that he's
going to show you is about making money because it
does a bigger money investment. We're gonna keep this thing
right here. You're still making me good money, you know
what I'm saying. But I'm about to gonna make this

(41:24):
other one hundred billion over here. That's what it's about.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
This.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Put this on Pauls for a second.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm gonna be a hundred but y'all change, do not
take my pocket money pocket money, but you know that's
pocket money to him.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Debo. He this the thing too. He owns the team,
so like that's the people.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
You know what, man, this is my entertainment source where
all you foolish cowboy fans run over and give me
all your money. But I don't even really care about
it because I'm making billions over here. I had to
go ahead and jump on this opportunity real hard because millions,
and I had to let y'all know that, Hey, I'm Jare.
I bought this for a hundred and fit and I

(42:06):
made it into thirteen billion, and now I got an
opportunity to go and get a hundred billion.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Hey, let's go get that. I'm all stop on the side.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
That's why I'm talking to you on the phone right now.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I ain't worried about that defense Them cowboys fans go
always stay that we didn't boys.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
You've been thirty years. We ain't did nothing. But hey,
we didn't.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Every year it's our year. Every year that year you keep.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Knopping that money and buying them Jersey.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
And doing all that debo. I will tell you this,
if somebody were to buy and own an investment and
they own something and they're a full owner and everybody
that works for them, they pay these people, they write
the checks. Jerry Jones in the NFL does not do
is that like really act like that like the Robert
Krafts and they're more in the background. They want to
know what's going on. But end of the day, if

(42:45):
you own a team or that's your own, you could
do whatever you want to do. Like you're writing the checks.
You're cutting the checks to everybody. So if you letting
everybody know, like it's not a good way. But Jerseys
letting people know he can do what he wants to
do sell the team? Would I sell the team? I'm up?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Why would he sell the team? He automatically knows that
he has child boys fans going back into the day
before their eyes opened because their parents having doctor NATed
them into being a Cowboys fan, and they have never
seen a championship game of any sort. But you know

(43:25):
what we gonna do. We go look at Troy Smith.
We're gonna look at it.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Look at you, Emmi Smith, Fitz Smith, Michael Michael.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
We them boys, boys, huh? How you them boys that
even got a problem with this?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Like come on.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Them boys like Rial for real? It's like them boys
like that. He's like, oh yeah, them boys over there,
they play for me. They make me some money. But
he'll go to these these men.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
They they about to get me that Gwath.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
It's a business for Jerry, period, and as long as
he making paper, he's going to continue to treat it
as what it is to him. It's nothing but a business.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like you could come up like how do you come
in there and be behind the glass and be able
to watch somebody practice every day? That's usually like a
you know, that's that's usually like a big opportunity for
like somebody that you know.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
And all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
You know what I'm saying, like training camp don't matter.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
You just putting in the basics. Everybody know what your
basics is.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Easy and sit there and watch what you about to
do before you go play Blase Skippy.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Now, you can't do that. You gotta close that down
like you can't. You can't have that.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
And like you said in season, you get like, you know,
you get to make a whish or something like you
know once the other week or something like that. That's
a big opportunity. But they ain't coming there trying to
You're not selling it. He's selling everything, dude. They selling
the gloves to shoes everything. You know what I'm saying,
Like they're selling everything. Don't don't leave nothing in your locker.
I promise you. It's go gone shot before before the

(45:01):
end of before the end of the night. Okay, Yeah,
I feel that, like we them boys a god boys
fans he like, yeah, beg autumn suckers.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm gonna keep y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I'm gonna keep y'all over here because y'all think I
care about this, I really don't really.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
But the thing is the one thing I would say
though Debo is at least he it's not. It's not
like they've just been they have good they have formidable teams.
Like it's not like he's not just giving them like
no no roster they have they had been having some skills, talking.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
About like like Cleveland, like giving him no nothing but
one or two players here and there.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I mean I
think I think when he had the best the best time,
not because I think the best time was when they
had d I mean not that, but but Dad with
Daz Bryant on that catch, I think that was the
one time they had actual shot so like in the
last thirty years, as it's one but one.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
You said one shot in the last third year.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I say, one of the last third call yourself them
boys hold up America's team. Well, I don't know if
that's the reputation we want, is America's team.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
You think they should switch America's team.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, they shouldn't switch American team. That that that they're
not American team. That was the title that was given
to him. That was I believe at one point in
time it was it was a title they was trying
to give to old man old man Rooney.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
He told him no.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
They told him no, No, I heard that. I heard that.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
You you were given the title. You didn't earn it.
We them boys, Yeah, you was them boys in ninety something.
You just you just something.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
They living off the old old days. They had they
till they had their time.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Don't yeah, don't don't. No, we can't. We can't. We can't.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
We can't all well, it ain't about we can't allow it.
The fans. They believe it so much. You know how
you're getting grained to to something that you you just
you believe in it so.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Much, no matter what the it's hitting you in your face.
You know what I'm saying, like, you still believe a lie.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
What I'm saying like they they like they like mellow
you die with the lies.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
So they're gonna die with the lie.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
They're gonna they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Live their whole life.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
As a as Sorry I almost said Cleveland, but yeah,
you gonna have that too.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
But you're gonna have players that live their whole life
as a Dallas Cowboy fan slash Cleveland Brown fan and
never see anything come to fruition from the time they
are born until the time they leave this earth. See,
so what was that was like Tony Romo, It was
Tony Romo and then now it was that. So that's
been the last couple of years, the last fifteen.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Listen, hey, Halloween is here, it is. What's the skill.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That you think could happen today?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Let me tell you what mine is?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, you tell me. First debo, I'm like, dumb.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Ass Browns letting Miles Garrett go to Philly that that
would be the scariest thing.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That that that could happen today. Donald Heart, I don't
even know why I'm telling them, because.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
They just they're not gonna they're not gonna do that. Debos,
they're not going to do that. They're not gonna do that.
They tell them, they give them ten first round picks.
They gonna do it, ten first round picks. Miles Garrett.
First thing, he on the first thing smoking that they said,
they say ten he on the first thing.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Listen, Well, I want to see you succeed, Miles, because
I want to see all players succeed. Yes, I want
to see you succeed with Cleveland. While you don't win
no games that will affect the Pittsburgh stellis.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
That's the selfish part of me.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Mm hmm. I want the best of Miles Garrett man, regardless.
He's a baller, he's a good dude. I think I
don't think this. I don't think the Browns going to
let him go. That would be ridiculous, especially for three
first round picks. And like, we're not going to get
another Miles Garrett in the draft. He's the defensive Cornerston him, Denzel,

(49:21):
those pieces don't need to go hardest thing to find
that edge rusher. You got one, he's been there, you
know what it is. And we got Denzel to a corner.
So like, those are my guys that we just don't
need to get rid of. We know what we need
on the offensive side. We need to get a quarterback,
and we need to get another receiver, you know what
I'm saying. And always line never offensive line never hurts.
So with those spots, just getting rid of Miles in

(49:43):
no place makes any sense to me, because Miles gonna
play at a high level no matter where he's at,
because he's a baller. That's just what he does. He
wants to perform at a high level because he just
I think he's when you're great players like you do
It don't matter. When you're on the football field, you're
gonna work, you're gonna do good because that's just what
you do. That's just what we do when we're on
the field. So I would want him to stay there

(50:05):
and ball out.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yo, man, somebody asks AI to evaluate the Browns historical
struggle in the NFL. Dude, even even Google couldn't make
sense of it. No, dude, in concepts of the organization
is one of the things The Browns post nineteen ninety
nine record is considered a significant It is considered a

(50:28):
significant outliner in the modern professional sports. The combination of
losing seasons, a minimum number of winning records, and multiple
historical low points make the continuous struggles and almost statistically
impossible outcome in the league.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Structured for.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Parody, the Browns struggles are frequently cited as a case
study on organizational dysfunction.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh lord, that.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That managed to defy the mathematical NFL guy. Hold up,
hold up, man.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Hey, I can't see you, Joe, put your up. Hold up, man,
you're trying to what you doing trying? That's Google A.
I didn't do this.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I didn't do this, bro, I did not do this.
This is Google, lay out and chill out.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Hey, this is my that is has nothing to do
with me, Joe. Listen with your kids, with your kids,
your kids trick or treating, Joe, Let's go to something, man,
your kids don't treating.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
What they're going as.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
My young boys is my boy. I got my oldest son, Joey,
he's going as a police officer. And then I got
my youngest son Jack, he going.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
As a ninja.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Okay, okay, my my h my son's birthday today. He uh,
he would wear costumes like every day. I'm talking as
soon as he got home from school, he'd wear the
costume this dude had, like I think it was like
eight eight or nine different Iron Man costumes, iron Man Soldier, this, this,
all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Dude like literally couldn't get this dude out of a costume.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
And like we was, we was trying to well, we
tried it too late. But we wanted to make him
believe that everybody dressed up because it was his birthday.
But he started too late. He didn't he didn't believe.
He wasn't going for that. No, what he got going
today for his birthday? Yo, I'm a little I ain't

(52:31):
gonna like to you. I'm a little upset. Said he
got something going without you. He got something going without me.
He's gonna tell me. He his mom asked him that
what he want to do whatever. So I'm like, well,
you find out what you know what Henry want to do. Yeah,
I'm thinking, you know, he want.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
To go eat.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
He wanted to go hit. You know we got we
got uh we got Napple Prime right here and off
the hood. That was my spot when I was in
question Brow Prime is even better prime. I've been in
that Prime to up the hill from the other one.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
That's the seafood spot right.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
And he gonna talk about something.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
He want to go to his friend's house and sit
around a file or something, and you know he'll catch up.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
He can't catch up, don't want to do something.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I'm gonna as you pop. I'm gonna go catch I'm
gonna go I'm gonna go get to the fire and
then I'm gonna hit you up.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
You dirty roight scoundrel me after all I did for you.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah to me, yeah, he just on.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Your sixteenth birthday.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I know you a boy, but like you go do
that to me? Dang debo and that it be your own,
it be your own.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
You something, I'm gonna give you something.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
So I don't know if your son stopped giving you
a kiss yet, but it's gonna hurt your heart when
they do.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Oh man, let's go tear you apart.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Broun.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
So I'm sitting there and dude, you know, he gives
his mom a kiss.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
You know, you know, I get me a kiss. And
I don't know when it was, but James was. I
think he was around like like maybe four or five
something like that, and I seen, you know, they're talking whatever, okay, mom, whatever?
Do do you know?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
He get to kiss me?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Like all right, man, what something?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
And I go to get the kiss and you know
this nigga turned his cheek on me. Yeah. Oh hold up,
or listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I didn't know that your kid could hurt you without
saying a word. I had to talk to him about it.
After he got older.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I couldn't let it. He didn't understand it then. Yeah,
but I had to talk to him. I got over
the course.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
What he really hurt feelings.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
He hurt my feel I.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Can't get kiss no, no, Dad, I can't. Man, you're
gonna turn my You're gonna turn your cheek to me.
Still you skill give her the lips, young boy on
the cheek man, my.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Old mouse, I can't even get a cheek kiss. No
for sure. Now you yeah, now, now you're trying. Yeah
that you better come over here. You're just give me
a good old hug. That's you better be happy on
giving you a hug. Listen, all this all this all
this close wait, wait to that way to that. So
it's also something else. It's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Is that y'all can't lose. The Browns can't lose this week?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah, you damn right, and
all my boys getting the game, everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's around the game of game and not even have
to do nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
That's what I'm saying. That's the that's the goal. I'm
just that's the goal. We need to steal us. You
know what I'm saying. To do that, you need to
steal us. We mean what you mean? Who is we?
You know what that bulls ship Joe? You mean me
and you is the stealers. We need the stealers to
win this week. I say something, goofy No, no, we

(56:15):
need the stealers to win this morn.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Why would I I don't know, I'd be crashing out. No, no,
you me.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I'm down bad because I already know we're about to
go out here and Lou, I'm depressed, That's what I'm saying.
But I just don't want to get embarrassed. I just
don't why doing embarrass please? No, look, look it'd be yes.
Let's just I'm this game. Let's just good vibes. Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
We know what we gotta do. We know what they
gotta do. The Browns already won this week, so you're
actually right. Hey, they might.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Lose, though they might go and get give away they
got they stupid enough.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
To No, no, no, he's not a man. They ain't
gonna do that. They're not interested in getting ready. I
hope they do.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
I just want something bad to.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
The only reason only they give Rid the miles for
Patty my homes. Okay, give us Pat, it will give
you miles. Okay. He don't know all right, then well
he's gonna sit there, That's what I'm saying. Here, retire
before he let me put him to the brown I
know Pat not going nowhere. Pat not going on that's

(57:20):
what I'm saying. If I'm the Browns, I'm acting for
something outrageous. Give me Lamar if you want, you want,
you want, Oh, they ain't give it. Listen, listen, listen
that Lamar will retire before you let it.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
There's a lot of quarterbacks that you're saying right now
that we'll retire before you let them get No, they.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Got a hassle.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, I was retired on you before I let you
trade me to the Cleveland Browns. See, I played I
played for every team in the North. I didn't play
for the Browns, though. Shut up. I played for the Browns. Debo.
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I'm just saying this stuff by you being so disrespectful,
I'm just. I was just. I was making a statement
about who I didn't play for.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
That's it, Joe.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
You know why you're trying to make a statement.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
You're not making a state of the reason. I'm just
I'm just telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I can't know how much better the Bengals organization is
than the.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Twenty thirteen we took the AFC North. Check it out. Yeah,
where I go, AFC North, go, Man. I just wanted
to say.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
That every dog finds the clock Hey, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Listen, listen, man, listen, bro.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I want to thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Man. We got to get out of here because Joe
is feeling some kind of way when I start talking
about the clown, I mean the Browns and.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Stuff like that. Like I just said, I didn't play
for him. Listen.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
We thank you guys for joining us for this episode.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
A Debo and Joe. Please make sure you guys like
and subscribe. We will be back at it on Monday.
And I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm
praying that I have good news even if we lose.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I just don't. I just make it close.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Don't let please, I'm gonna start spinning again.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Joe, Let's go. Come on, stealers, defense, stand up, get
Debo something to be happy about. Have us with the
good cigar on me coming here with a good God
with come on all that.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
I might even light it up this time.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I ain't come on, Debo. I mean I might, depending
on I might, I might. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
So look here, give me something so I can put
my stuff on, so I could be back in my flow.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
All the gold, you know, mm.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Hmmm, yes, shine, shine shine, I'm gonna shine.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Joe, because you ain't got making to look forward to
other than when the downfall coming.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
They trade mouse already on this week.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Here we go, stealers.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Let's go put a foot down, step on the boy's next.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
At least stand your ground, stand up, stand up, stand
up here on Monday

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Out be out, don't get the date.
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