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December 5, 2025 57 mins

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions dismantled Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys. Later, they react to the ongoing drama in Pittsburgh as their season appears to be unraveling, the Cleveland Browns opening Deshaun Watson's practice window, and much more headlines heading into Week 14 of the 2025 NFL Season!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode that t Bo and Joe.
I'm your host Jane Sebo Harrison and I'm here with
my co host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys
like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How
you're doing that.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Day, Joe, brother Debo doing great to my good brother,
my brother in Christ.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I had a great, great night watching some football.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
So yeah, the game, unbelievable game.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Oh real question.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know, like this is a high scoring game, so
I know you kind of you know, I ain't go lie.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It was high scoring, but I was still able to
stick in there because it wasn't like just a straight
out blowout. It was yes, interesting all the way to
the end.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yes, yes, for sure. You know.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Dallas went on out there and they tried their best,
but they just didn't have enough to finish it off.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Lions beat them. What was it, forty four to thirty?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, yeah, so Detroit get out there and like that
whole first series there was just like play action, you know,
the first play except for the first play they went
on here just straight through it to the same brown
sewing was good. That was seven they get to I
think it was like third and three and Gibbs gets
the linebacker that shaky, shaky Spence cycle, yes, breaks off

(01:16):
his ankles, you know, for a hot nineteen and then
again I think it was the next.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
The next one was the first one was the swing
pass to him where he got crazy Spence cycle everything.
And then the very next one the checkdown to him.
He's behind him, dookie step turns around like just back
to back plays getting the ball into his hands.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Bo Gibbs went crazy. I think the first one was
the check down. I think the second one.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Was the out was the swing yeah, yeah, man, but
look whatever, back to back he went in.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Then they I think it was second and four. They
ended up dropping him for two. It was a loss
of two. And then on that third down, they was
they was able to make it, make it to uh
make it to golf.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
They ended up settling for a field goal. Yep, mom
is back when he started it. Mom Is first sack
of the day.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
It was it was three nothing Dallas get out there,
and then on the second and six, Pickings takes one
for a nice little eleven yard game. I think it
was the first down. They ended up losing five.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
They did a little throw back Yeah, that joint was
looking a little crazy. He threw the ball behind the
line of scrimmage trying to jump past that year that
was a not not a good play.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
The second and fifteen though, he is he is ferguson
for nineteen yards, like I was thinking they was gonna
be able to hold up.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
The next one they really didn't. Didn't get too much
and it was like a run, I know, incompletion on
the first one. The second down was just one and
then the third down, dude made a nice break on
that he did.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
He did.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
But this is one where it was a little bit
noisy in there, Debo. If you see my man George,
it's a little noisy in there. He was going for
the pick, both of the men. I saw a little
alligator came off the joint kind of chilling. But like
that was the first one, it was. It was definitely noisy.
I could see my man Picks kind of making a
little bit of a business decision on that dig.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Great, it was a little noisy in there, But you know.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That, I don't think that was the dick. I think
that was the out, wasn't it. No, No, no, that
was the dick.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, that was the dick, all right, Yeah, they go yeah,
fifty seven yard field gold on.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
That fifty seven yard field gold like nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Like nothing, that wasn't that wasn't even the longer it
was no for sure. He just warming up, ye man.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
And you know, Dallas go ahead, kick it off the
Detroit man. Dallas special teams was selling all night, dude.
They let they let do return to what was it,
forty yards to almost midfield.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
He was doing it all night, all night, dude, all night,
like all night.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And the kicker Aubrey smacked him though on that return.
I ain't gonnae to see the kicker when it got
him some.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeahs, Dallas defense was able to stand up a little bit.
They pressured him into throwing the ball into the ground
on the second down and the third down I think
Saint Brown he ended up tripping on that one. They
almost had a pick if dude, that was good defense. Yeah,
good defense, was good defense. Could have been a pick
for show. But had the punt, Yeah, they ended up

(04:15):
punting the ball. I think Dallas they faked the the
fair catch that put him back and then they had
a holding that pushed them back even further. They had
the double penalty. Yes, they had the double penalty. And
then they get to third and four from I think
it was like the ten or eleven and that gets
sacked for safety.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's the safety buvie.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
They overturned it. He said, the ball was clearly all that. No,
it was no, No, the ball.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Is clearly like as soon as he starts crumbling, I'm like,
that's a safety for show, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, and then before the dude hits him, he actually
steps hisself back further, Yes, to protect itself, to cradle
the ball, which puts his whole body in the end zone. Dude,
the ball was sitting half and half. Then he said
clearly all the way out.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
It's no way you.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
There's no way you can say clearly. Need they need
to refnue to get their vision checked. They gotta be
twenty twenty, like that was twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
That was terrible. Yeah, that was that was bad man.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
They ended up parking punting the ball over to uh
to Detroit, and I think they ended up getting the
ball close to midfield again, like yeah, two yeah, something
like that. First down a little short, a little short
thing to give second down. There was another seven that
got that got him in the first and then on
the first down they get that illegal shift where they

(05:35):
tried to pass to the offensive lineman. Yeah, they sometimes
sometimes they try to do a little bit too. It
was cute and everything. It was getting cute right there.
It was getting super cute right there. Second and thirteen
coming that boy Saint Brown again, twenty six to the
Dallas eight brother.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Great play called way to he widen the man up,
you know what I'm saying, Stack them up, winding them up,
Mason space on the inside, great though, great route.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Next play they do the reverse to Williams.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
He ends up stepping out at the at the one.
Next play, Gibbs finishes it off. It's three to it's
three to ten two. So Dallas comes back up out
there and first down, Williams give him a nice run.
Second down he ends up No, he only got two
on second down, so they ended up going to like
third and one, and that completes like that one for

(06:26):
the first I believe. The next third down is when
CD he just breaks the tackle. Yep, ahead, take it.
What was the six six thing?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
They went four for five. They went four for four
on those third downs on this drive. Yeah, they kept
after that.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
They converted two more two more, you know, two more
first downs, just basically standing ahead of the change. That's
a sex right thing. They get to the first and ten,
I think on the Dallas what fit no, sorry on
team yep. And finally, you know, the defense decide they go,
they go stand up a little bit. They get to

(07:01):
the third and ten and they sacking.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yep, Muhammed second sack of the day.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, dude, like they're they were. They were pressuring him
all night, dudeh They ended up having to settle for
a field goal. Again.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's it's six to ten and Detroit gets back out
there and on the second down they false start Yep.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
The next play, Gibbs gets I think it was like thirteen.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, they put that man out of wide out.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, hey, he was chewing.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
We was doing work, bro while he was literally lining
up in the slot.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Saw some people up.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, they get the endcompletion on the third down, they
they're going up. That's on that third down devote. They
thought it was he thought he had a false start.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
He thought he had a free play, no question. I
think he was in the neutral zone. But yeah, it's
nothing neither Hey, I.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Told you they visually got to get checked. Them boys
ain't seeing twinky twinky babies. That was fa He ain't
seeing twinky twinkie.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
That was foggy. It was the d tackles in the
neutral zone. In my opinion, Yeah, I would, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I would.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I would have to agree with you, like, especially if
you're saying just any part like that's yeah, easy for sure.
And then the first play, Dallas get up out there
and that back his CD I think with like.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Seven yep, thirty thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And then the next play he throws a backwards pass
that you know, they actually gave a sack on that, dude,
that was like a sack, like they gave it back
on that with a like with a backwards pass. And
then I think what they lose on that, like fifteen
or something.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I think they're all sixteen they all sixteen yards
sixteen okay, Yeah, Third and twenty one, he gets it
to Ferguson and he fumbles rock.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
They punched that ball out, hurts turned over.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think Dallas get it at like with the fifty
somewhere close around there. And then they go to first
play and they get a hold of kill yep. Then
they get a false with a fall start. I think
it's like second in like seventeen, second in nineteen something
like that.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And guess who golf goes to. James Williams. And this
is one of the players I'm talking about too. Did
you see the route he took off on the ball
like it's a fly, like it's a goal. When you're
a receiver, you gotta threaten, pressure, be depressing, gotta threaten
him because.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
James Wills, he's fast.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
He's faster than these DB's, so you better get on
your horse and start hauling. And then once he sitts
it down right deliving right on time, you can't stop
because you're nervous to get taken up top. You rather
thhim catch the ball coming back to the quarterback. But
that's a twenty yard stop, you know what I'm saying.
By that time, if he's not if he's not selling it,
DB's chilling waiting on him to stop, like you're not
going nowhere.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
But he got base as.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Soon as he pressing him hard enough to turn that hip.
Soon as he turned that hip, that's his break in.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yep, hit that for twenty four yards because he opt.
He's thrying a twenty yard curl and you're not expecting
once you pass fifteen sixteen, I'm thinking you're going to overall,
you're going deep.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
You're trying to take me up top.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That was beautiful And that's some things I said when pickens,
just even if you're not getting the ball, you gotta
sell fade every take off.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah you got to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I think it was that next second down Montgomery blombs
that thing thirty five straight to the middle.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I'm trying to tell you, dude, like.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Points offt turnovers, points off turnovers. Yes, quick, easy money, quick, tuddy,
it's sixty seventeen. Dallas actually goes and gets a nice return,
but yeah, get a holding call like.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
That that ended up kicking it back.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And then I think it was like second and five
that hit City again for like twenty m twenty one
something like that. I think they ended up converting maybe
like one more first down after that, and then that
next first down is when you know.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
They got the where they did the to the end,
they got the hands to the face call.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, I'm talking about the next first down when CD
he threw the incompletion the CD and he was supposed.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
To be out. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, he
got to keep that in bounce. No, no, what you think.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I think that was when he actually hit his head
and was supposed to be out of the whole game. Bro, Yes, yes, okay, okay, okay,
he was supposed to be out of the game. So
keep that in mind. Okay, because they went to the tent,
all that, right, He went to the tent. He did
all that. And you know how the tint go. You

(11:43):
ain't coming about the tent. You was laying down there,
sleep you you was your fingers was doing it. Yeah,
so you know you're out.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
You gotta be.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
That was the obvious concussion.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So second to ten, I think they ended up hitting
Pickens for nine, which would have put him out of
second and one.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
But this is where they got the.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Face mask, which kicked him back to a second and
twenty five. They can't overcome that, and you know they
end up again with another field goal.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yep, it's nine to seventeen now.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And Detroit gets the ball back with fifty seconds, bro,
second down, go off the Gibbs is eighteen.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
First down they hit Saint Brown for nine, and then
on third down and one.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
They get a PI that pushes them forward.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think another thirteen fourteen yards they're able to kick
a field goal. They lucky it wasn't more time on
the clock.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Man On the next playboom Man, the rookie, the same
one that got the pi.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
He lose his feet.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
He was out there and sometimes you know, in the
deep as a dB, I could see he was just
a little He was a rookie. He was nervous. He
was getting cooked out there. They had him in a
lot of man the man, but.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
He's trying to move both feet so fast that you
hit the ground before you're you're adrenalins catching yourself so
fast you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Can't even get your feet up under yourself. So when
he ran the go ball, my man's feet just clipped it.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
He just like exploded in the airfl I was like,
oh my goodness, he gotta breathe.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
His feet is moving too much. His legs are heavy
right now.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, they end up scoring before the half, just nine
to twenty. Dallas comes back out there in the very
first play that is picked off. That pick deflection, dude,
that's on this one. He returns into the fourteen Can
I tell you one thing about that play. I am

(13:35):
going to run him over. You put my head on it.
The linebacker. Yeah, I'm gonna make him tackle me. I'm
going to you gotta put that boom on me. I'm
gonna make him tackle. You got to you got to.
That's that's that's that run and to him.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Run room.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
This is your time. This is your time. This is
your time. Yes, your time, This is your time. Ego,
I feel you one cannot speak on the play.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Go ahead, bro.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
This is corner back, one by one on one. If
you a dB, you want the situation so bad. It's
two by two the court the court. The running back
is offset to the off to the right of the
running back.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Another quarterback.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Once he sends an emotion and goes to a three
by one, we call this full flow, three by one flow,
full flow, backside slant.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Every dB knows this.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I love the way Robinson stepped off, gets a little
bit inside, acts like he doesn't know of the slant coming.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And this is when you know you have a safety
over the top.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You play you play back, presto, you back up because
that's the route he runs. And then you got George
Pickens over there, wide split on the backside of a
four by one. There's one thousand percent slant. So him
reading tape, him being ready to film study, and then
I'm looking at Dallas like, look, if dudes know what's
coming in? If I know, I'm looking like, oh my god,
it's four one one, it's a slant coming. It's a

(14:56):
slant coming. And I just watching them.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, get off, don't let Dak notice.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
You know it's a slant.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
That was just great plays by the defense and just
spout recognition.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, they returned it to the Dallas fourteen. I think
it was only two plays later. What's the dude tasting tesling?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I kept calling a man tesla, but it's test
slid test sa tesla to sly tessl.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
To sly to slide twelve yard touchdown.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
From gnother rough day for the for the rookie corner,
second man through his own just looking. That's the way
you gotta take that. That's your man. He was having
a difficult day. His legs was a little heavy out there.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Oh yeah, I mean be like that.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I've been telling you that dB is not as tricky.
I mean, when you're playing a lot of man, the
man you're exposed. You're not a defensive linement just getting
hit out of their hole every single play, and nobody
know dB, you'll see that.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
You're gonna see your exposure. Yeah, twenty well you can
see it if they run on that rock too.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Now you're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Twenty seven to nine.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Now I think Dallas gets back out there, and it
was second to seven. And how does Ceedee Lamb get
a ball for thirty two when he wasn't supposed to
be in the game.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
You think he is, He's already a little he's already.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, they ruled him out after that for a concussion,
but he had already he was concussion Uh seriously two
before that.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's when they ended up. They ended up ruling me out.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
But anyway, yeah, the next that that first now, I
think Williams gets a nice game for eleven. Next play
it was a holding. They got a whole penalty and
they get to it. I think it was fourth and five.
They end up going for it from the seven, from
the eighth.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
It was the nine. It was fourth and five. They
ended up getting.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
George George big hands catch started getting great.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Catch ud trying to fight for extra yards.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
He fumbles the rock he got the lucky they recovered
it the Lord because I think if they recover that,
it's in the end zone, it's over with, right they
get brought it's a touchback, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure,
for sure that they ended up getting that thing.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, they got the first thing there. That was huge.
It's necessary.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think they ran it in on the second downes
back to a game.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Twenty seven sixteen.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Twenty seven sixteen, I think Detroit gets back out there
and again on the third and eight Gibbs get somebody
to shake.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Them brother, my man Bland too.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It was just you got to use the sideline as
your friend, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
He's running for us back hit them. He just running
like you had more like like ten more yards of sideline.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Like they were in the middle of the field, like
you had a two way go. Man, He's about to
hit them.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Breaks gas so hard and you couldn't break. He just
went straight full plank mode.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
The both flew by and just stayed there too.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I'm like, is he.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Hurt, right, yeah? Soul feelings, pride, that was her the
only thing that was hurt with the pride. Go ahead,
get on up. Man second down, golf hits Williams for sixteen.
After that the defense is over to hold up. They
attempt the field goal and get it locked. I was like, whoa,
now we got a game. Hey, super, we got a

(18:21):
real game, super game. They end up I think it
was like, uh, second down they pick up eighteen with
for noy mm hmm, and then second down they put
they got a holding, then.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
They got a holding penalty on second.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
They got a hold on the last second and nine
knocked it back to second to nineteen. Yeah, and then
they got the third and nine. That was the offensive
pih that was a legal pick by the legal pick. Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
They ended up having to settle for a field goal
after on.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
That third and nine and third and nineteen they threw
it the pickings.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
He kind of jogged off. I didn't he didn't really
know was he running to go? Was he running DJ
And then you see it, you see it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I mean it's it's multiple times, but you see him
not really getting off the line, and like the one
time Dak is like yo, pressing like that's that's the line.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
And pressing and turn off. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, make him, make him, make him fear faid.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
You got to make the dB fear fade. Yeah, and
I think.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's when your man hit the sixty three yard Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Now they going ahead. I'm like sixty three yes, yeah,
easy money. It's the best kick in the league. Bro
oh easily nineteen to twenty se Well he got well
still he's still. He's doing the indoor and outdoor. But
it benefits when you in your home fielders.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
No, dude, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna punish.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Him for that. No, No you can't because a lot
of them missing them indoors too.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, come on, man, but he's kicking in the turf.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, Detroit, come out there. Montgomery. He take it the
first two. Now, I don't think the first was.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
The second second straight downhill.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, and then they get an illegal formation and I
think it was what was it golf? He got ut
Williams again. Wasn't it like thirty fourteen yard joints?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I think Montgomery he ran for like maybe two on
the second.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, they got a fall start.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Coming down to the fourth quarter. Now we got the
start of the fourth.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
They'll get a false start there.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think Montgomery goals maybe what was it thirteen.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Then and they declined off sides yep.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And then second down I think he hits another one
for about eight or nine yep. And then it's a
holding another holding, like they are trying to set themselves back.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
They giving them a chance to self affect the wounds.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, they can't recover from it. They end up settling
for the field goal. It's thirty thirty to nineteen now yep. Yeah,
Dallas comes out brother what was it three fourth players?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Bro yep, four plays.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
And scores a touchdown the first down, Dak scrambles on
him for twelve. He didn't even looked like he was trying. Now,
he was just he just ain't. Ain't got the speed
or the wheels off for something.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Trying that that is smart, he was. I make Jackson
Dark needs to watch that. You need to watch that,
I would say, he chilling.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I got sixty million to work to make sure I'm good.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I got a long career. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Williams c ryns for I think it was a twelven
yard twelve something like that, okay, And I think it
was second and five bro for Noy Detroit busts coverage.
I don't know what was going on there. They let
this man wide open. He goes forty two yards.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I lie to you, now, I think it was just
man the man. I think he was just guessing. Honestly,
I'm not thinking they're supposed to be safety help because
once he saw he looked back.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
That was like a damn, I guess wrong, you know
what I'm saying. So he had to just get back
on his horse.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
You know what I'm saying. That was just a get
back on his horse. He No, you're beat.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
You're just looking back at that play hoping it's a.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Dropped the ball listen, hoping he dropped the ball or they.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Dropped it, quarterback got hit or sack. Because by this point, yes,
for sure, I'm bombed. I'm bombed. I think that was
a man the man.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Like honestly, Dallas ends up going for a two point conversion.
They converted, and now it is a game game, three
point game, twenty seven to thirty.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Driving the game right here, in my opinion, now drive
the game and.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
The help of the game by like Detroit did they thing,
but Dallas helped him. Like you get that third and
six he hits Williams for what was like twenty nine loss. Also,
it starts with the kickoff returner. Yes, true statement, true statement.
Like I said, they were selling all night. They were
selling all night. You get that third down and he

(22:57):
completed it for the twenty nine plus the rough in
the passer, yeah, yeah, I think it was a They
was close, so I only gave him half the dence
with thirteen yards thirteen yards, yeah, and then I believe
it was Gibbs on that second down, the right dude
to play before they were like, yeah, they've been bottling
Gibbs up for the most part of the night.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Very next yeah, the very next play, right, remember for a.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Hot for a hot teen for a touchdown. It's twenty
seven to thirty seven now, right, yep, yep, man, Dallas
get back out there. In the first play, they sacked
this man again. They was they was hitting him all night.
Dude there all night, like for him to get as
many yards as he did. Man, he did a good job.

(23:43):
The very next down though, he hits your boyfriend Noy
for twenty for.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Nooyd, Man, he stepped up when CD went down. He
was out there, Hooper. I did not know who buddy
was but he was snagging the rock every time.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh, no question, bro, he was doing he was doing
a real good job. Like you said that, I didn't
I was with you.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I ain't. I don't really know who he was. I
didn't know.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, I know, maybe like three more first downs after that, yes,
you know, really staying ahead of the change, doing what
they had to do.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
And then on I think it was third and.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Three is when it was the obi of the OPI
they declined it.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
It could have went the other way.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I mean, I seen where he's talking about, because he
got the little hook on the little arm thing.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
He hooked a little thing and did a little twist.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
He did a little It was as if it's me
you want you want that I want that call.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
You want that call? Yes, you want that call.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Normally you ain't getting that car.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
You're normally not getting it because he had a little
bit but like you know, just just swing byes, blowbyes,
swing throughs over the shoulders. Like if you had him
rocking too much, you as a DV as a linebacker,
you got to say a little bit more inside leverage.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
He had you rocking, so.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Then like it's kind of more of a swing through
so I could see. I don't I think he I
think it's a bangman. You let that play. If you
let him do that, you know what I'm saying. I
think you let the offensive player do that, and then
you let the dB. He didn't really even hook him.
He kind of like touched him and then didn't really
change his momentum. That's just a no call.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, he went to the ground, he was about to
go to the ground. That's why he had to hook him.
That was enough to throw him off. Brother, I gotta
go with it, man, Listen. They got to settle for
the field goal. That's it's the right call.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
You okay, okay, I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
On the defensive side, no, on the offensive, he grabbed,
He grabbed him, He grabbed Debo and look at me.
I'm changing. I'm a corner. I feel you. I need
to be along. I'm with you, right. It was OPI
op I all day.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Detroit got uh do I think they had the Detroit leven?
So they settled for a field goal. Thirty to thirty seven,
still a one still a one score game.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
And again return game they sell Kennedy goes return forty
two yards.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Left into the forty nine yard line. Brother then in
midfield second and nine golf hits Saint Brown and this
man goal thirty seven.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yep, the very beautiful play.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
The man they'd been keeping bottle up supposedly strikes out
again for thirteen for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Boy, I thought that.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I thought that was almost a submission defense. I thought
they almost like let him score. That's what it looked like,
how easy it was. I'm not about to let you
score up me already down. I'm just saying down, you're
down fourteen. Now it's thirty to forty four.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
He almost walked in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'm just saying it looked and they might not have
been trying to let him score, but it looked rather easy.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean, hell, Dallas only got the ball with like
what two ten love and then they go to the fourth.
They get to the fourth, down to ten, they say
they didn't get it. They reversed that rule.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
They got Yeah, he was on it. Yeah, that's no question,
that's no question.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I think first down, Dark hits Turping for twenty one,
and then Ergerson again, I think it was fifteen. Dak
gets sacked back for that third time. Come on man,
you know, and then second down, Yeah, how did re
get that? That's the craziest. I don't know what my man.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I love DJ bre We worked out together out in
l A great great dude. He hits me up, you
know what I'm saying, and like, that's my one of
my young bulls.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Loved that.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
He had a tough day out there and he deserved
that pick.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
He needed that pick. He needed that.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
He was out there and a lot of man the
man you playing out there, man was going at too.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
They was going smack at my boy. But you know
they putting him in man and mans. He was a
verse CD. It could be tough out there this single high.
So yes, I was so happy he got that pick,
was able to close that thing out. Rough day with
a pick ended up, y'all win, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And so with a good day, DJ Yeah, well Detroit
they l it's over with. Yeah, So Detroit, they did
a good job. But I'm gonna say this, dude, Dallas
Special Teams was selling big time, like they.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Helped them tremendously.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
And then you add on top of it, you know,
the three turnovers and not being able to convert in
the red zone.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Think they were only one of three. They ended up losing.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
CD and on top of that, the offensive line couldn't
protect da. You know, obviously Detroit gets credit for that
because the defense stepped up. I think they had five
sacks eleven times. You know, Detroit's offense did a good
job mixing it up, like the timing, their flow, the

(28:41):
rhythm they were, you know, they were able.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
To do what they needed to do.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Gibbs was only twelve or forty three, but that was
three touchdowns. He also had another seven receptions for seventy seven.
Then Montgomery was six of sixty h ten of hit
he got a touchdown for the most part of the
offensive line kept golf clay that allowed him to go
what twenty five.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
To thirty four for threeh eight for threeh eight.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
In a touchdown three on nine yep and Williams seventh
for ninety six, Saint Brown six for ninety two. Like,
it's going to be very difficult for people to cover
both of these guys and have them on the field
together with the you know, the double running back combination
when these guys are healthy, dude, Like, facing this team

(29:29):
is it's going to be hard and Detroit didn't even
go for it on one fourth down.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
No, they did not, thank you, they did not. They
did a great job of making sure and maybe it
didn't learn let's pump the rock.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yes, ain't nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It was not like, let's not turn over the ball
and put on.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And look what your special teams did for you special teams.
That was a that was an overall team performance. I
wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I would say their defense still didn't play as great.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
They put him in a lot of tough positions.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
There's a lot of man the man to be played
out there, So you're depending on your D line.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
You need Muhammad, you.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Need Hutchinson to be able to get after that quarterback.
So I think with Branch getting hurt, you know what
I'm saying, that's gonna be a little tough. They need everybody.
They have a DJ Reid, he could play a little bit.
He had a tough game, you know what I'm saying.
But that's a lot that's man and man on CD.
That asking a lot of you. So being able to
stand up. Matt Roberson, he's a great I love the
way he played, being able to be smart, being able

(30:29):
to make those players, being able to understand situational football
or with's four by one, it's flow.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'm going to line off. I'm gonna be able to
act like I don't know what's going on and.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Be able to make a play here punching the ball
out Campbell, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
So, yeah, don't let him read your mail, like, don't
let him your mail.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yes, I think a lot of the time, guys, don't
you know, get into that that focus and sometimes, like
you said, as a corner, you could do it by
yourself a lot of the times out there by disguising,
but when you're trying to disguise and you're a linebacker
or you're someone that's in coordination with someone that's going
to be taking your coverage, you got to make sure

(31:06):
they're on the same page as you so that when
you're out there, you know, like I said, sitting on
two making like you covering it, make sure you're safety
date and when he sees you take off, let him
roll up.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
That way the quarterback has less time and now he
got to read it on the run.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
The Lions, man, it just the Lions offense. They had
a little bit of everything.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Too.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Like you said, you have both running backs that can
run the ball so well they can catch it out
of the backfield. Then you have Jameson Williams, you have
Amrad s Brown, you have a loss. He was supposed
to be out. He was supposed to be out, he's not.
He's catching bang eights. You know what I'm saying, Right
on time. And when you run those play actions they
mean something because Saint Brown could I mean because Gibbs

(31:48):
could be running that. Gibbs could be getting a handoff,
Montgomery could be getting a handoff. So when you play
actions that linebackers coming up, it's open down the middle
of the field. And these receivers Jameson Williams running good routes,
take off like it's a go route. I didn't see
him really lolly gagging, you know what I'm saying. So
like these dudes are running.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Every player you got, you gotta give it a hundred,
especially you know when you're talking about every person. No
matter what your job is, your job is built off
of somebody else being able to do their job correct.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
And if you're coming out.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Here and you lacks of days going your approach because
you don't think something's going to go your way, and
you don't get an effort that you need to. Now
when it actually ends up coming your way, you're not
even ready to make the play or able to mm hm.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You gotta every play man, you gotta get you gotta
get it. And then like with them too, the Special
Teams debo, my man, Tom Kennedy, if you don't have
to go eighty yards, it makes it a lot easier
to make it. Drive a lot quicker, you know what
I'm saying. A couple of runs, a couple first downs,
we're already in field goal range, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
So that whole team being able to put themselves.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
In good positions, the Special Teams, and we said the
Cowboys sold. But that dude, Tom Kennedy, he was hitting
those joints every time they was at the fifty yard line.
You starting from the fifty you damn that points, especially
when you got the weapon that he got.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think, uh, we go, we're gonna we're
go get to.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
My We're gonna get to my Steelers.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
But before that, he said, uh man on his uh
on his podcast, he said, uh, it's time for a foster.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I think we got it and we got the video.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Yeah, maybe a fresh start for him is what's best,
whether that's in the pros, whether maybe go be Penn
State's head coach. You know what he was doing Penn State.
He'll probably go within national championships. Legitimate. He's a great recruiter.
That's what was having to comment. We probably had this
problem or I was having this conversation the other day.
I'm like, coach T in college would be one of
the greatest college football coaches.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Where do you think you agree with that?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I believe coach T can coach wherever he wants. He's
a great in my like, I think he could. I
think he would be a great recruiter. But at the
end of the day, I don't think coach T is
wanting to deal with kids and go in you got
you're doing a lot of do.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
All of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I think coach has been dealing with grown men, you
know what I'm saying, being able to you know what
I'm saying, You control what you can control. That's the
one thing I do love about Ka T. He does
treat you like like an adult, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
And you think he can win a championship at Penn State.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't put it past them, but his coaching ability,
if he wants to do it, I think he could
definitely do it. I just think personally for coach t
I think he could be able to still go to
another NFL.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Team in a great situation. Like Andy Reid, he left
the EG question. If they were to let him go today,
he'd have a he there's no disrespect. Yeah, a thousand percent.
But I think I think you could do it.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I just don't know if he will want to, and
just all the other nuances that come with recruiting kids
and like having to do the main thing and keep
continuing to recruit him. I think he's more and I am.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
All that stuff different. It's a different different It's a
different animal right now. Yeah, yeah, what do you think
different animals?

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I don't. I don't be honest with you. I think
he could be.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
He could be successful, for sure, but how successful that
could be the background and changed, like you know, you
get a player and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't
like what's going on in year one, year two.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
He can go on.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
He can go transfer, you know what I'm saying, and
be out of there, and so I mean it's just
it's it's a different you know, it's a different landscape.
And you know, I would definitely not want to be
in college football, especially at the big levels, even the
small levels, because you're going to lose. Like if you're
at a wirky one and you get a guy, you know,
and you you build him up, you're going to lose.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Him, right.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean, that's that's just you know, that's just what
it is now in this you know, in this landscape.
So but the Stellers are playing the Ravens now Listen.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yes, I know, I said, I know, I said, I
lost Hope, But I can't help Hope. I don't know.
I do know, I do because because you love it.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Historically we do play the Ravens well, okay, like minus
the last the playoff game and you know maybe the
last game we played them in twenty twenty four. You know,
if you look back, I think go to maybe twenty one.

(36:26):
I think we're like six and two regular season. That's
six and two regular seasons. Like we play well against
Lamar for the most part. So that's what that's that's
one of the things that that gives me hope, and
then the way the Ravens offense has been playing the

(36:47):
last few weeks, I feel like we can win this game,
but the defense has to stop the run, like we
have to stop Derrick Henry and Lamar and.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I just feel like right now, you know they're not
playing too.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well, so I think we got an opportunity, But we
also better be prepared to face the formation that the
Bills ran on us in and do the exact same
personnel because this is a copycat league. And if that
is not fixed, I promise you they're going to run
that at least a half a dozen times before they

(37:28):
go away from it, because this is going to be
a lot harder to tackle Dereck Henry coming off like
that than it is with Cooks. And you got a
dB trying to tackle dere It ain't about getting the tack.
We might lose the dB, dude. And if they don't
do it, like if the Ravens don't even try it
or do it, that that got to be like neglect

(37:52):
by the coaches if they at least try it, because
you just seen them do it twenty plus, if not
thirty times.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
And have success.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And again, the offense can't turn the ball over and
we have to have some sort of success on the
offensive side rather it's running passing to find a way
to bring We gotta find a way to win time
of possession, Bro, We got to got we gotta at
least try and get a defense some time to rest

(38:21):
de bo.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
You're acknowledging the offense exists. I have to I appreciate this.
We have to though. We have to, you know, we
have to because I'm hoping the same thing. I'm hoping
the same thing I'm thinking with the defense. Understanding, Lamar
Jackson is not one hundred percent right now, you know
what I'm saying. He isn't being able to He doesn't

(38:42):
even if he doesn't choose to. He's not running the
ball the way that he was running the ball normally,
like taking off being able to get it.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Not saying that he can't. But we need to make
sure that we.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
We got to make sure we don't have that same
game plan that we had in the playoffs where we
got our outside linebackers crashing down and trying to get
to a dive and you're leaving Lamar and one on
one with the say that's not going to happen every
That's not. No, that's not I understand. We need to understand.
What the with the schematics that you're talking about. We

(39:10):
can change, we can switch that up. But I'm just
saying we need to still go eight in the box.
There's not I'm not liking them. Make them have to.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Beat us with the pass game through the air, Yes,
cover three, single, Make Lamar beat us through the air,
Make defense contain rushing lanes. Don't let him get in
and out. They're not really going to be out there
beating us man and man one on one, or if
they do.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I like, I like it, Let's do it. I'm taking Yes,
I'm taking that.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I'm taking in the box.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
We don't want to see Dereck Henry and when we
get down, we want to win first down, win second down,
their third and longs. I like to see them pass
the ball and we contain Lamar in there and make
it fold in the pocket. Let's do that. If that's
the case, I like us to go out there and win.
Then you said offense to don't turn the ball over,
be able to get some run game going.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Get the ball to washingt get some get the ball
to DK. Once you get that run game going, those
play actions will work. Bang hit it in the middle.
We have Washington, we have DK. Let's use them. Let's
get the ball to gang Well's hands. Like offense, like
you said, matriculate, don't turn it over, don't hurt us.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
You know what I'm saying. Just make sure you know
what I'm saying. Keep it tight.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be wet, it's gonna
be sloppy. So time of possession, being able to just
have the ball, keeping it out of their hands. You
know what I'm saying, It's gonna be good. So ugly win.
Just go out there and win. Nobody's looking for a
pretty win. But we just know we don't want the
ball to be getting ran down our throats where they
just walking it down and there's nothing we could do. Right,
it's first and ten, now, it's second to three. Now

(40:38):
it's another first down. Now it's like you can't get
your feet under you.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So even with them like us two D bow, if
they're coming out on the eleven personnel bump it, we're
still going base because hey, we gotta have bumped in
that third receiver they got are with him. You will
take a safety, gonna cover him something. But we're not
gonna bring another little guy. We want to stop the
run and then we're going to be able to cover
them with our three dbs that's out here, or our

(41:03):
other strong safety that's in the box.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
We're not just going to have so many little bodies
in another nickel nah nah, because he's going to get
thrown off the club. And we wonder why why so
many gaps. No, they're not used to having to coming
down and fell into the line. Like, that's not that's
not what they you know, that's not what they do.
Do it on occasion. But if it's the same play,
what thirty times thirty times?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
She's going to get on.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
We got to get that stop man. And like you said,
the offense has to do something. But I guess Pat
Fryarmuth said that everyone shows.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Up for a film session. What do you? What do you?
What do you? What do you think of him saying that?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So, now, my thing is this, If he's saying that
that everyone shows up, then in essence he's calling there
in a liar. And how do you think that is
going to how you think Aaron is going to take that,
you know, when it really comes down to it, Like
so when the media goes to Aaron and he's like, well,

(42:03):
you know Pat said that, everyone shows up, so you're
either wrong.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Or you're lying. I know Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Ain't gonna be talking about like I'm I'm lying or
I ain't going like I don't know why Aaron would
say it if it wasn't true, And I don't understand
why Pat would come out and say that what Aaron
said wasn't true. Like right now, you can have an
issue in the locker room, dude, I like, this is

(42:36):
not again when I said earlier in the season, dude,
I was like, as long as they're winning, the relationship
with the Stellers, Mike Tom and Aaron Rodgers is going
to go It's going to go good. The relationship with
Aaron Rodgers and Mike tommin and Stillers still go good.
Right now, we're at a point where this could start
going bad. And now we got some deception right here.
We got one person saying one thing, another person saying

(42:57):
something else. You know, I think I think it could
start to get ugly, you know, you drop this game.
Who knows what you know? The pressor looks like, what
do you how do you feel about about firing Move
coming out and saying that, and what's your what's your thought?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think I don't think Aaron Rodgers is lying about
people missing the meetings.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I think with fire Mof is saying that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I mean, I think if a rod would have responded,
it would be I ain't say you it wasn't you,
fire Move.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
You were in the meetings.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think he's
directly talking to him.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
He didn't say he said everyone shows up for film sessions.
That is his He said everyone shows up. Well, like
he was directly talking to the media when they everyone
shows up for film sessions?

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Must everyone shows up? He's saying maybe, I don't know,
I would hope.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I think he was saying, like everyone shows up. Now,
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I just don't think Aaron Rodgers will lie about people
missing the meetings. And I would just think fire Moof
is trying to Okay and were.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
About earlier in the season where the Dolphins were talking
about they were having meetings. Look where we're at now,
and then someone says they're not having the meetings. Now
you got people pointing the fingers. Yeah, now he pointing
at me, You pointing at me? Who Like, it's it's
not it's not good obviously, but yeah, I mean it

(44:24):
just it just it's just messy.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's messy because it makes about who were you talking about?
Then he says everyone showing up. I don't know it
just for me, you know what I'm saying, what was
the question asked the fire move? Because he's like bringing
up They was like, hey, who's is everyone not showing
up the film sessions? And if I was like, no,
everybody's showing up the film sessions, It's like then it's
the next question what a Rod said people aren't showing

(44:46):
up the film sessions? Like it just makes more and
more questions like this is going to yes, it's going
to right, it's going to get messy, you know, like
we don't we're not doing well on the offense.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
And that's a combination of I think more old coordinator
than anything else, and then players not making plays when
the opportunities hit, you know, present, you know you're going
you look at Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers and their
stats are similar. Do we got the stats for them too?
From like their their stats are are similar, brother, I think.

(45:20):
And then even if you jump back, dude and you
look at you look at Justin Fields. I think Justin
Fields had only started maybe like six games or something.
But again, that quarterback Raason was like a ninety three
ninety four or something like that, eleven hundred, twelve hundred
yards office quarter gotta go with you running, ain't working.

(45:43):
Everybody looking the same. We got three quarters everybody looking
the same in the same timeframe, with the same amount
of games. That's and then look, eleven games is not
a small it's right, it's not like a little bit
of games.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
And like I said, the same thing. You look at
you look at look Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
He had six eleven twelve hundred yards ninety three ninety
four quarterback rating.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
We're looking at the same thing. Yeah they got it. Yeah,
that's that's that's that's the same. That's the same, And
they're not the same. Man.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's a play call, and we got to open up
the playbook.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
We gotta have people like when you when I was
watching the game the other day, like when we're watching
the Lions and you're watching the and you're watching the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Just the playbooks.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Do you see them going downfield that still do for
even though we threw one picking it was three seventy something.
You know what I'm saying, on Chill and my man
golf through for three h nine, like very very efficient,
twenty five three nine.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
It's not like and that's just another day of the
off dude.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
They're throwing the ball down the field were I don't
And every quarterback is doing the same thing. Three different
levels of quarterbacks. Now, there's no way you're gonna tell
me we just got bad players, quarterback, play, bad office
all that. It's it's everybody's looking the same under the same.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Come on, it's a lot of it's a lot of
route tree because if you look at them too, you
see Jamison, these dudes running different routes. You see Am Brown,
We're running on.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
The outside of the field. I think we are allergic
to the middle of the field. Is something in there
that I don't know. Somebody go catch the cooties or something.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I don't know. Something I don't know what's going on?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Brother, and I think they may not be respecting our
play action because you gotta think that they're going to
run it first.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
You can't respect the play action if you're not running
the Boston.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
That's why the back's not open. So you gotta yeah,
we got.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
That's not going to happen. Let's get over here to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Man, we got, we got, we got some sound on
what what Jerry Judy said. You got to play that
video for us.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Them off camera.

Speaker 7 (47:51):
You know I would have done different, you know, of
people mind and tell me what they say, what I
need what I see out there. Uh, but you know,
you know what it is football man, just man, sure,
door good. You know, it's stuff like that happens. You know,
y'all gonna make it bigger than what it is, you
know because the media, you know, and that's what your

(48:12):
feed off of negativity, you know, but it is what
it is.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
This is the life you live, so you know, we
move off for it and I live in real life,
you know.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
So what happened around in this locker room, you know,
just real not now what's going on that social media
and everything? So mini sure dog good, everything good man, great,
real beild.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
How do you like that response, joke, Joe, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I'm thinking you're thinking, how you like that response?

Speaker 1 (48:42):
But I like the response. I ain't gonna lie to you, Like,
I ain't got no problem with it. Ain't you know
what I'm saying. Like, he's just saying he would have
approached it differently. I mean, he's not really thinking that
the cameras is.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Look.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Ain't nobody thinking the cameras looking at you when you're
talking to somebody on the sideline, y'all going over what
you know, what's going on? And the big issue we
had was just if you go get an energy to
the door or give it to everybody else? He just said, Yo,
I should have did it differently. Cool, But again I understand. Yes,
the media over there, their media, Yes, they're trying to
make a big deal of everything. Them dudes just looking

(49:14):
for click bait and everything else. Yeah, him saying it,
yeah you might. You ain't have to say it. You
could have just left it going and just been like, yo, yeah,
I'll handle it different next time, blah blah blah, and
left the media out of it and don't even give
them any give them any attention.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yep, I'm not mad at all that the way that
he handled it.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It's just I think that he realized to at the
end of the day, like you're losing games, people are
always going to try to pick the negativity from us
outside perspective. I like to start doing this because I
really want to give just an honest opinion, Like I
don't give it in what like the bad the good.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I just want to be able to speak for you
giving honest opendens. Joe, give me your honest opinion on
this Tennessee Titans Brown's game.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
What you what's the preview?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Tell me?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I like the Browns one thousand per one thousand percent.
I think that this is gonna be a big game
for the Browns. Tennessee's offense isn't doing too well. Ward
is not out there with the most weapons with a
lot of help. I think our defense is going to
be out there smothering Ward. He's not gonna have too
many too much of a chance. Like Miles might go

(50:24):
get him three. You know what I'm saying, Denzel Ward
might get him a pick.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
It's just gonna be a lot of a lot of
Miles at nineteen right, Miles at nineteen Miles nineteen.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
He gets twenty five, he could be a twenty five cent.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
You're trying to get you one miles gonna get six,
and I know he's gonna at least get three. If
you don't get six, and you an't to do it,
I thought you would.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
You're see that's that you're trying to get him going.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Thank you, d BO. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Give him some I like see. Tennessee's defense is not good, dude.
I think they're like twenty fifth. While the off makes
them look way better, they're dead last. All the defense
need to do is keep doing what they're doing. The
offense needs to just have success Like this right here

(51:12):
is the team that you need to actually help you improve,
Like this could be the day last.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Hey, listen, I'm trying to tell you, I think this
is the game. What's shit?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Door goes ahead and has him a nice game of course,
you dude, Junkins Jenkins, Junkins, Dunkins.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Whatever I can go get he go.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Get him one hundred plus. Got to like it's set up,
it's perfect, like it's gonna be. Probably this could be
the best game the Browns have had in the last
I don't know how many years. Man, it's set up
for it's set up for success. It's set up for
us to really go out there and ball out. I'm

(51:53):
just hoping to like the offensive like. It starts with
the offensive line. It starts the offensive line on the
offensive line. Defense, lin, I know our defense gonna hoop.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
But on the offensive side, if our offensive line can
get junkins going, protect your door a little bit, and
that's the door we gotta.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Make due the defense. It's not they they should be
able to. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Defense.
The defense gonna do it. I'm just saying for the.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Talking about the offense, their defense is is what twenty
four to twenty five, dude, it's set up.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
For them to have a successful game, like this is
gonna go this time. I believe this game.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I think this game is gonna be a good one. Bro,
It's gonna be a real good game. Dude, it's going
it's going to be a good one. I'm trying to
tell on de Bau look that set up, brother energy.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
You might time.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
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Speaker 4 (52:45):
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Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yes that works I made my lineups for more pigs
for Sundays, for Sundays games. Now you either play or
you faye. You tell me why you gonna like what
I done? Did here, I promise you you're gonna like
what I did.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Now I got. I got Josh Allen, I got him more. Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
The reason I got Josh Allen Moore, He's going Againstnaty.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
That's easy. I peeped. That's hey. Here, here you go,
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I got Junkins for more. Should do for more? I
think it's gonna be the game that shouldn't go go
ahead and get him two hundred. He's gonna get him
two hundred passing. Okay, you'll get into it.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Junkins going for a buck and some change. I got
them too for more. That's gonna be easy. And I
ain't gonna lie to you. I'm I'm hoping I lose this.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
That's what I got. I got Derrick Henry for MO
for MO eighty two. I got him for more. D
I got him for MO. I'm saying he go around
for a bucket some change. What you're gonna do? Stand up?
Drop your nuts? Hey man, that's crazy. Way this Joe

(54:17):
Man Devo, I am, I am? I am? I messed up?
If I if I am like it's just the bottom one.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
You really feel you really feel like that's gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Or is this you playing mind games?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I feel like it's gonna happen. I can't how many times?
Ain't he got a hundred against us that he played?
I think it's only once?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Should I play? Should I fade?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I love everything about this except for the last one.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Why you go fade me?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Joe? Tell me? Why Joe?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Because I believe that they know that's that's the only
real that's the that's the only way we're gonna stop
the run, the only way we're gonna beat the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Because we're gonna stop the run. You go fade your boy?
You fading your boy?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
If you if just say it, Joe, I'm gonna fade you. Debo,
I'm gonna fad.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
You, bro. Wow, Joe, go fad me.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Look, make sure y'all download the app today and use
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Speaker 4 (55:37):
Me?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
And Joe Joe de bot Joe fifty in lineups after
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Speaker 4 (55:45):
Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Hey, man, look we're in the super Chappin Hey, Covenant
life back. Oh, I don't even know when reader coming,
like the city to life fitted out. Hey, we appreciation
now we appreciation. Okay, it's debo.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
You are allan.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
When I was fighting triplet triple, when I was fighting
stage three breast cancer, your workouts help. No, I didn't
do them, but in my mind I knew I had
to push and fight and use you. And just as
you were doing lifting all those weights, Joe, you are
just a person of great class. You just a person

(56:26):
of great class. Joe, Thank you, Thank you a height.
We really appreciate you. I hope you know, I hope
everything turns out right. I'll be praying for you, prayers
first and foremost, Joe and myself will be praying for
you for sure. Yes, yeah, hopefully everything will turn out right.
And you know, just put it all in God's hands

(56:47):
and you can't go wrong there.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Man, for sure, appreciate you coming in life always, Yes,
Keeping prayers, stay prayed up and uh yeah, appreciate you
for watching the show though real talk man.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yes, thank you guys for joining us again on this
episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you guys
hit the like and subscribe button. We will be back
here on Monday, Joe. Come on, man, I just want
to let y'all know, thank you guys for joining the
Debo and Joe show.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Just continued blessings if you guys keep watching us, man,
it means a lot. Thank you so much, and we
will see you guys on Monday.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
And we are
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