December 12, 2025 • 58 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons defeated Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, reports that TJ Watt suffered an injury, and much more headlines from Week 15 of the 2025 NFL season!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode of D one and Joe.
I'm your host, James D. Bo Harrison, and I'm here
with my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you
guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing.
How you're doing today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Joe, bro, I'm doing great, Debo, great brother. Had a
game to watch last night. I thought it was over.
It wasn't over thought I could fall asleep. So yeah,
we got a good one on it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
On the definitely, yeah it was. It was definitely a
good game.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The Bucks lost to the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is sixth loss they done.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Had in the last eight games, dude, including the last
two back to back losses to division opponents in New
Orleans and Atlanta. And now the Panthers are in first
place dude in the South in the NFC. Brother, let's
just jump on into this thing, yes, sir, letting rain
and get a cracking baby Bucks. Get out there, dude.
(00:54):
Irvin was back. He comes out on the first play,
he strikes out on him for eleven dude. Play Baker's pressure.
He dumped it to Irving again. He picks baby. The
next play, Bakers plaid passes block and then I think
they stopped irving for a second down, no game, and
the third down, I think it was incomplete, like he
(01:16):
just dropped that thing into no man's land right there.
They end up punting it and it gets down. I
think it was down at the one, but they said
it was touched, so they ended up. Yeah, they ended
up pulling it out at the at the six. I
didn't see it get touched. I ain't gonna lie I
didn't either.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I'm still I was still looking for it. I didn't.
I didn't see a good touch man.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And then after a one yard run on first down,
b John picks up ten on that second down.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
He was doing things all night.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
He was.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Now listen the next play, Cousins hit pits that that
dude went crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes he did that. That's a baby gator. He went, yes, yeah,
for sure, for sure, dude. And then it was back
to back plays.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think Robinson went for four on a run and
then he dumped him one. He took for nine, third
and two. They ended up getting a false start and
then after that, the dude, they was getting penalties left
and right. That started them out. They ended up having
to punt the ball back to the bucks. Bucks get
(02:22):
out there. I think on that second down, Irving hit
a nice little one.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
For seven and he gets sacked.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But your boy twenty four out there. He had a
long day, man, my good man Terrell. I love his game.
But it was a lot of holding, man. It was
a physical play. Mike Emanson was holding him by the
back of the shoulder pass a couple of times. So
he was out there fighting for his life. Tbo before
his life.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The next player, I think it was White, he took
one twenty and then the second down nine Baker hit
Evans for like twelve. That next second Baker gets sacked. Right,
it's third and fifteen, dude, twenty three dog and it
was a penalty, yes they yeah, dude, it was. It
(03:10):
was your boy again, having having a rough day.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
A long day, bro, with a lot of holding going on,
a lot of for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think the I think the next play, that's when
he hit McMillan for what nineteen to the one.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It was a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It was a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He got black, Yeah, he got.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm glad he didn't do nothing stupid reached the ball out.
He just made sure he didn't fumble. Yes, respect trying
to do something dumb. He could have lost it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yo. You see they on that lead block on that
second down though.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh my goodness, Oh my lord, oh my lord, they score. Dude,
it's seven. It's seven nothing. The first play, Cousins get
out there.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Who he hit?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Who he pits the baby? Either man, the man? The
jus a little loose on them, bro, it's getting loose
on them.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I don't know, Like it was a couple of times
they just made like they wouldn't go even you know,
follow or do nothing with this man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, they getting a holding on the next play with
kicks it to first and twenty. Boy Bjon picks up eight,
and then the next play he get another seven and
third down.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Because of his steals for ten.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
They pick up the first down, and then they follow
that up with a false start, but that ends up
being a holding by the defense after that for the
first down, Dude, it was so many penalties.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It was so many penalties. I started losing track, like
I'm trying to keep track. And then they had the
field goal and off sides right, so then they got
to be able to get back out there onto the field.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, so they get back out there. They end up
getting a touchdown off of that. Yes, I think it
was pits right that was pissed again.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yep, yep, miscommunications wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Bucks, get back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think that second down, Baker is sacked, but it's
a holding first down. Yes, they end up having to
They end up being able to hold them though, so
they punt the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They forced him the punt.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Atlanta gets out there first down, Bejon, he go for
a hot thirty brother.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What happened though? They are holding holding all of this.
It's a lot of good stuff, a lot of and then.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
After that it's a false start.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, verse sixteen, Verse.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Sixteen, John picks up thirteen though, Like, I think it's
what it's second and whatever it is, and I believe
they ended up getting to what was it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Man, he got to something. We made it third and
fifteen because they got yeah, debo.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it was a false start on thirty ten that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, bro it' started getting some bad ball. I'm trying
to keep my notes. I'm like, how many okay, flag
flag flag y'all?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Punt y'all just been Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
They gonna ahead and point that thing. Bucks get back
out there. I think it was third and six, Yes,
taking his Evans for twelve out beautiful. Yes, next play,
what was it? Uhoko? Google man, he breaks tackles and
shakes him, gets gets twelve on them.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's a first.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And then McMillan again for what was in nineteen twenty? Yes, sir,
but somehow Atlanta holds him to a field goal. I
don't know how, but they did it. Ten to seven.
Falcons come out and go four plays sixty five yards
for a touchdown with a first down dump pass to
(06:46):
Robinson for nine, a quick run for three, followed by
Cousins hitting Pits for six. Rut dude, that was the
codes out I ever seen. It looked like he adjusted
that to change the route in the middle of running it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, that was that was meant to be that way.
That's what it looked like. That's because it was so good.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and then right after that he gone head wide
open for the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Bro second man through his own linebacker looking crazy. We
got a good post take out the cover three corner.
He's just chilling paplaying We'll touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Fourteen to ten.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They up now listen, Bucks, get the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I think it's only like thirty thirty three seconds, Debo
thirty three seconds. Thirty three seconds. Of course, with the help.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Of Atlanta with a defensive face mask and something else,
they go what was it? Thirty three to Evans yep
able to kick a field goal?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
dB falling down on the can. I sup with the turf?
What's up with the turf? The had loose? The only
dude that had on good cleats was Robinson. Robinson was
the only with the good cleats on because he was cutting.
He was cutting like it was perfect grass. He slipped
one time too one time, but he was cutting up
a lot more than he was slipping. Yeah, they're going
(08:06):
to halftime. Thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Atlanta started the third quarter with a sixteen yard game
by that dude Bijon.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
On the check down. He must have came out of
a locker room with fresh, fresh cleats, because that's the
one I'm talking about chopping people all the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, but hey, they would stall out because you know,
fase start on third down holding, they punt the ball.
You know what I'm saying the Bucks. This is where
the Bucks get the ball back and they get a
holding penalty after he done kicked it out the back
of the end zone. That kicks him back to the team,
and then they proceed to go nine plays ninety yards
(08:49):
ankor hits what is ituka fore laser that thing in there, dude,
laced it in there.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That was and then a bomb to Evans forty five
where he just went over the top of that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Man head top, watch your head, young bull. Fifty to
fifty ball my ass.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No, not even close to it. Of course you got
to add that. You got to add that legal contact
on that third and thirteen. In completion, they gave him
a first plus the tripping call, you know, the second
and goal, Yeah, second and goal. Baker hits cool for
the touchdown. It's fourteen to twenty. Now, yes, sir, Atlanta
(09:31):
come out. You know. I think they might have picked
up like maybe two first downs. I think one was
Bjon again twenty one shaking him. He got twenty one
on now and then steals he could have caught that
pass for that touchdown right after that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And dropped it. Dude, dropped it dropped that thing. That
was just wow. That was just that was just terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You're a professional, Yeah, you're a professional, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
After that, I think it was Mooney he got he
got thirteen.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That was there. That was their other.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
First down, and the intentional grounding on second down just
really it killed everything.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It killed it all. They punted the ball, but them.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Boys over there and uh and Tampa was trying to
help him out. He gonna hit and muff that thing.
Almost give him the ball back right there. He's able
to recover it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Somebody. He got lucky. That's that's that's luck, dude, that's
lucky bounces.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, that's dude. No, that's lucky bounces, dude. Could be
a completely different game, Yes, could.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Be a completely different game. It still got ugly anyway,
but for sure, Yeah, I think the first down, Baker
hit Evans again for about twenty. Second down, Irving went
for sixteen, and then Bakers get sacked on the next
second down. They end up forcing them to punt the
ball yep. And then Falcons get back out there. His
(10:55):
second down, damn man, Bjon fumbles through rock. Think they
like at the twenty twenty five end.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Up recovering it. You have twenty five, y'all line.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Dude, first play Baker to Evans for ten, need that
second pass interference to down hell for god.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
The next second down Godwin goes head, he go here,
hit god when he gets him the touchdown. It's fourteen
to twenty eight. Dude, I ain't gonna lie this one
for the two p two hit the two point yep,
this is where I'm thinking, yo. The game is over
with Atlanta comes to life. Eight plays, sixty five yards, touchdown,
(11:40):
no penalties now, no marching down smoothly, no penalties like
nice big two games of what was it eighteen by
Pitts on the third and twelve? What was it thirty
two twenty by steal Is?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Then still there you go catching the ball, yes, trying
to get it over.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He could have caught that up, Yeah he can. Yeah,
he redeemed itself.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Man, I'm after that one, Burdie. You gotta catch everything.
Everything he did, every though he did.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Though, Djihon scores on the six yard run for the touchdown.
They go for the two point conversio.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Let me tell you about how do you feel about this?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
What you you going for two?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I ain't going for two right there? I'm not going
for two, not right there? Why is everybody keep going
for two?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I ain't going for two right there? Because give yourself
a chance go for one right.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
If you do, you gotta be able to give yourself
the option to go for one or two, or you're
not even giving yourself the chance to know you you
gotta go score again. So just seven and now when
I go there, I can kick the field it or
I could go ahead, bang on you and go for
two and winning the joint. Right, Just the first one
is throwing off. Stop doing it, please, coach, just stop.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Bucks get back out there.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
They complete one first down and then second down. Baker
helps them out. But that was a good don't drop.
Hey the boy he climbed it for it though.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That was a good zone drop. And he climbed the
ladder right there. Brother, Yes, that's your that's your cirl flat.
He gotta get underneath the out mm hmm right, ain't
nothing in front of you, and it ain't nothing but cheese.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Get back. Come on, they're trying to set you up.
Get back. It's coming out there.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
He had the jam a little number two and then
he kind of didn't really even hit him for real
because he knew he had to get on the number
one and make it. I respect it. Come on, great
play by out Falcons.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Get out there again. These boys go ten plays sixty
seven yards for a touchdown. Jon goes fourteen on the
very first down, third and seven pits again. I think
what was dudes? Ain the other running back? Uh he
went for fifteen?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
They did?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, second and ten though, money, he gets sixteen,
but he fumboedd brother.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
This is when I'm talking about a good luck bounce.
It was five of them right there. Hey, it was
five of them. That lineman came in there joint.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Four speed de bo. Then I don't know how he
came out with that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't know either. He wondered how he came out
with that second down? What they do? Falls start third
and go.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Who they hit?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Who they hit?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hits brother to give his third t d at a game.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Third and they call it one cheek equals two feet
exactly the cheek, Hey, the cheek cheek down down, cheek
down feet down, chey.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They go for two again, of course they had to.
Then they miss it. I ain't gonna lie. I'm thinking, hey,
I'm looking at like now you idiots, you know, I mean, like, hey,
maybe this is over with because it's only what by
time with three yes, by time the bus get the
ball back.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Mm hmm they convert.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I think it was like one first down.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
He got one first down.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
They started forcing them to use their timeouts. They run
on the next first down, they lose four and then
you go and you throw and incompletion on second down.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, they thought they was gonna get that, brother, They
thought they was going. They had them BOOKO a little
bit behind. They trying to finish. They trying to win
the game. They're trying to go and get this first
down and not try to get.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The ball back.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Get sacked though on third like come on, yeah he did,
he did. He did second and complete third down, sack
now and Lannigan got the ball back. It's under two minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Left one for the second first play. They hear steals
for seventeen. Cool, they ain't bad. Cousins get sacked, fumble.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The rock and they recovered that. I don't know how again, dude,
but you know what, this is the third.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That one because the Bucks got that one when it
was five people around. So somehow they finiggled that one.
So I'll give it a I'll give it a turnover
for a turnover. They get a holding car.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think that kicked him to what like third and
damn there thirty third, twenty eight, third and twenty eight, Yeah,
because Fi's picked up half of that on the third down,
worth and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What how do you let him get twenty one?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Why are you he's the cover two corner for one thing?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Why are you pressed?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And he's cut split and you let him get outside?
Release of you? Everything inside, everything inside?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
What are you doing? And then sink keep sinking if
he gets outside of you, continue to sink all the
way down until like that's like a you could you
could pick the ball off. Don't let him get outside
of you. For one, you're supposed to push, push him
inside to your safety. You're in cover two high too low,
it's set. It's fourth and fourteen, So simple.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Checks down to the man that breaking up.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
We're rallying, we're rallying, we're fumbling them, we're knocking shit off.
And if he's if it's what he's gonna be fifth
and three, fifth and five, No, the game is oh right,
like back up, back up, and we're gonna come.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Fifth and five. What it gonna be?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But it gonna beat the bow.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
He got that wallin.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Man, they kicked the field goal on third down. Dude,
with four seconds left, they make it lose twenty nine
to twenty eight due like Tampa, Bro, they got some
issues over there. The defense sold on them boards. You know,
fourth and fourteen was the killer, that was it. They
(17:41):
let Pitts go crazy for like one sixty six three tuddies,
two of them.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He was just wide open.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The defense gave up almost five hundred yards, four hundred
and seventy six yards.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And listen, on top of that, Atlanta had nineteen penalties.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Dude, you got beat with a team that had nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Kennedy's what I'm saying, Dude.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Atlanta showed up late as a.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Defense when it was critical, bro, Like they stepped up,
especially the turnover.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That fourth quarter turnover, Dude.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That was shoes, Dude, that was shoes the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I think they possessed the ball almost eleven minutes in
the fourth quarter, dude, four or five on third down
with the fourth down being the.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
One, so they ain't missed none in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think Cousins was what thirteen for one forty five
with a touchdown just in the fourth Like, the defense
just sold, man, Like, I don't I don't even know
what you like, what do you even have to say
to defend yourself in that one.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Dude, did you hear the.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Way that they coach was talking after the game? Bo
oh man? And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's what I'm like, Man, this was not this was
not public TV aired he was he was talking to
them like he was in the locker room. He kept
cussing so much. I was like, is he just doing
this on purpose? Like we got your point across, but
he kept he kept on dropping the bombs. I want
to tell him, this is what I said, this is
what I said, This is how I'm just how I'm feeling,
like this is you've grown men like dah da dada.
I'm like, end of the day when I'm going to
(19:14):
tell you is you're up fourteen? I feel everything is
saying no matter all this stuff that's on the team
had nineteen penalties, Like it's fourth and fourteen. It's like
all of these plays that you could have easily still
after everything happened, could have walked out of the stadium,
would a win, and you could have walked out with
a win after that. Dude, it's easy. But like that
stuff is crazy. That cover two that corner right there,
(19:36):
My man's it's for the game. It's fourth and fourteen.
It's not third and fourteen. This is for all of
the marbles that checkdown that they gave pits to when it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Was third and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
For him to get it down there, that's a lot
of yards, and I respect him. Keep missed the tackle
a little bit, trying to keep him in bounce. Respect
Right now, it's fourth down and fourteen. Back all the
way up. You know what I'm saying. Make them happen.
You have to catch the ball down and come down
and get it like there's no world that far up.
And there's no world where even if you're a covered
two corner that you're letting that man is getting that.
(20:08):
You notice the sweet spot.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's that's the spot.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Back up. Make sure that we can rally down to everything.
I'm closer to the when it's hollow, you're playing in
the middle. No, it's four and fourteen. I'm high. I'm high.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You not throwing this.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm under right underneath of them, like I'm looking like
I can touch him on my arm so I can
break down to the other play. That's just not good ball.
So coaches has every right to be mad. Oh yeah,
he won offensive side, and then like the they're the defense.
I mean, just miscommunications. People are in the open. What
are we doing in the zones? Grab that man, you
know what I'm saying, Like he was beating you man,
(20:41):
wonder one. We feel great safety. I love him, But
you're five to nine and you got your going to
get sixty three to two me six four to two something.
He's a lot bigger than you can need a little
bit of help. So, yeah, it was it was wild. Yeah,
for sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh, I don't know. I don't know where the bucks go.
Uh they having a good to day, they damn so
still at work right now.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
For sure, that brother is in the hospital for a
long issue.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I guess he Uh, I don't know exactly what happened,
but they're saying, you know, he.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Was in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the initial report was a was a long issue.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Let me look at this real quick. Let's get let's
get let's let's get let's get it this.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So later on it came out that the latest report
said that Tach that TJ was hospitalized for some long
discomfort after a treatment session at the Steller's facility. Joeys
Her a treatment session. What what do you get from that, Joe.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I get treatment session? We mean, and so when I
let me get when I first started listening to this
and I hear the lung stuff, like you're initially thinking, like,
all right, it happened at practice. So if it's a practice,
it's no. It's like that's where somebody could you could hit,
you could run into somebody some contact where boom, lung boom.
But this one is saying in treatment, so I know
(22:13):
very well as well as you do. Treatment is where
you're getting worked on, you're getting massage, you're getting you
can get dry needling, you can get acupuncture, things like that.
So I would say that maybe it's going to the
point of dry needling something like that, where right now
I'm saying he gets hospitalized. Dry needling is something that
(22:34):
can actually puncture the lung something where Tyrod.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Taylor that happened that the staff did to me.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They were trying to numb something.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think, no, no, I feel you, But I'm just saying
that didn't come out at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But it's like the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's just puncturing, like like when your doctors at the
facility are actively side, not a doctor, not doctors, you're
not not doctors. The staff, the training, the trainings that
we don't know to the t. So that's where I'm
I'm with it, where I think that it was more
of a you know, a treatment thing where and for
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the Steelers they're going to obviously right now, protect protect, protect,
you keep everything on the inside, you know what I'm saying,
Like if something happened where this now we'd be looking like,
you know, who did it?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Who was working on TJ, Like it's going to be
a whole lot of those questions.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
So right now it's a lot of damage control probably
going on.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
But for me, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Like you're talking about puncturing loans, you talk about having
to be a meeting.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Here's the issue. But here's the issue.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You. I know, in PA, you can get your license
to dry needle as long as your license physical therapist
and it only take like fifty hours. So you go
and do fifty hours over you know, a couple of
months and now your license to dry needle. And what
people don't understand is just because your license don't mean
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you know what the hell you're doing. Like I'm not
letting anybody just anybody dry needle me if you ain't
done with and put in fifteen twenty years, I'm not
letting you dry needing me. And I'm talking about somebody
that they do that on a weekly in and out
basis ten fifteen twenty years of work. Because everybody's anatomy
is not the same. You can go and stick a
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needle and a dude that got a lot of fat
on him in his back and not touch a lung
a guy that got less fat. You can't take that
same needle and put it there. You can mess around
to going to somebody's trap here and puncture their lung
depending on how much little fat you got there too.
So with that being a case, like it needs to
be more than just you're a physical therapist and now
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you're going to take a you know, fifty hours over
you know, a couple months, and now you're licensed to
actually go in here and work, especially especially work on
professional athletes like this is like their bread and butter.
Teams like should be like, yo, no, we should get
somebody that actually does this instead of being like you
know what, let's just go and send one of our
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people get licensed so we can do it and just
have it legally done. No, go and pay the money.
You can get somebody that actually knows what they're doing
and been doing it for at least a decade or more,
and you have actual you know, like reviews or people
that's saying, yo, I've had this treatment and you watch
them work like I'm watching you work before I'll let
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you put some needles in me. And like I said,
and on top of that, you got to have ten more.
I'm not just letting you put no needles in me. Probably, No,
I'm with you. I think I think one percent that
this is something along those lines. But I mean, like
you said, we won't find out probably until later on
down the line. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just hope and prayer, you know, because you know,
anytime you start talking about the lung stuff, you really
you don't you don't know, you know what I'm saying.
He had to go get get to the emergency room,
get to the hospital immediately to make sure everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So I don't want to I just.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well, from my understanding, he's still there. So like you know,
you're talking about something. What was it when they said
we're on Friday now and that's not Yeah, that's not
a small thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
No, no, no, that's it, and it's traumatic, honestly, Like
you never know how TJ's Philly's still in the hospital.
You don't know, you know what I'm saying, Like I
would hope to know, like what what was actually happened,
like what kind of treatment he was getting, what was
going on? You know how teams and everything. When you
really want to you hear something about a man, you
want to know what's going on. We want to get
the inside, so you don't want to guess or anything.
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But at the same time, there's stealers and everybody on
that side is probably going to try to keep it
in house as long as you but I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know how it goes. We all know we've been there.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Everything trying to be kept in the house, no matter
where you're at, if you're Browns, Whoever's everything is for
the most part trying to be kept in the house.
But the Stellers, I guess we're at decades long run
that they say maybe coming to a coming to an end.
And I guess that's the you know, not having a
losing season as an organization since two thousand and three,
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I think was our last losing season.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So it's been two thousand and four to now what
do you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And then I think, Mike, is you know what eighteen
years or that or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, you think it's going in? Do you do?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Are you proud of the run? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But I think that's more of you. I want to
listen to. I want to hear your answer to this
question first, because.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm more here.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Just you know, Devot, you're kind of more vest you know,
you're saying you got the super Bowl a little bit more.
You're still a history than me, So I just want
to know, But like, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So I'll say that so safely, from two thousand and
four into the present, we've had a winning the season
or we haven't had a losing season.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I just.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's great. We also had, you know, two super Bowl championships.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So from two thousand and four to now, Mike Tomlin
came in what two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,
we won a championship. We also won one in two
thousand and five, So with that, you know, I think
he inherited a great culture, you know, along with a
defense that in two thousand and what was it six
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was a ninth rank defense. He kept the staff, he
you know, he kept the staff together. They stayed together,
you know, he allowed that great move, applauding for that.
In two thousand and seven we ended up when his
first year we were one, we were one five two
one one. So from two thousand and seven to twenty
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twelve we were one five two one one. Now in
twenty thirteen it dropped to a thirteen. In twenty fourteen
it dropped to a eighteen. Now, the narrative was dick
la Bose defense didn't work anymore, and that was false. Now,
Dickla Bose defense worked fine when you had players in
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there who knew the defense. I was in Cincinnati in
two thirteen, Okay, so I wasn't there, But I believe
that at that time Lebou was made to start younger
or rookie players that didn't have a full understanding of
the defense. And I believe that because in twenty thirteen
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I had a player call me and he said this
right here. He said, they just pulled me from being
the starter because quote, it's nothing you did wrong. We
just want to see what so and so can do.
I'm not putting names in there, okay, And that right
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there caused the defensive rankings to drop. You know, it
went all the way down in twenty fourteen to A eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
His contract. Coach Lebow's contract was not.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Renewed then because it was stated or believed that his
defense no longer worked. Okay, So in twenty fifteen it
was change of dcs and I believe we dropped to
twenty one. Now that was in cause because the Dick
Glebo defense that we ran was no longer the true
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Dick Glebo defense. It was tweaked by coaches that wanted
to do something different they thought would work better or
would fit the player's abilities better.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But when you go and you.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Tweaked that, it causes your defense that you're trying to
protect that one weekness from every defense has one week
It's just like when you do that, it causes and
creates more issues. So like twenty sixteen, I think we
ended up getting to like A twelve. I think that
was the highest that we were at twelve. We ended
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up going to New England and we lost the FC Championship. Now,
over the next four years, the defense got significantly batter.
So from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, I believe the
defense was high.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
As a that's when your boy, that's when your boy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Got So they were high as a three, and I
believe the lowest it was was a six. Now, if
you look at that, everybody want to say, Okay, well TJ.
Speaking of TJ, TJ is not. He ain't got any
no more. That's a lie. That's who got it. So
if you look at the numbers from twenty seventeen to
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twenty twenty, TJ when he first started, he might have
been doubled five percent of the time, if that up
to maybe twenty percent a little more in twenty twenty.
So the defense is three, four or five, six, whatever, No,
it's no lower than a six over those you know,
those four seasons. Right now, you get to twenty one
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and TJ is being doubled thirty percent or more. Okay
to now he's always been. He's almost being doubled seventy percent. Now,
why do I say this because you changed the defense. Now,
when you changed the defense, it was other defenses that
coach lebou would go to when that would happen to
us and it looked the same as the defenses. We
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would run where your outside linebackers was coming, but it
would be a different blitzer. So when you change the defense,
you change what's happening, You change who's where. You take
away that fear of looking at four different defenses and
it's different people coming on each one. Now you done
changed it to where someone's here or someone's there, and
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now you lose the ability to use the threatening defenses
because they're going to look different than the defenses that
are there that you actually send your guys.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean, so they're making it a look too simple,
now you think.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I think now people are seeing it easier because you
don't have teeth to go with anything that will look
identical to what it was supposed to be versus what
it could be. So coas le Boult had four defenses,
they would all look the same, but those four defense
would have different people. B Listen, So now I got
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the that's why rookie quarterbacks would be like they were
just coming from everywhere. Why because he's looking at something
that looks the same and he's thinking it's supposed to
be this and it's not. Yeah, So like I ain't
even lie to you. When I retired in eighteen, dude,
I thought like we were about to get a championship
because the offense was ranked like four, the defense was
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ranked like six.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
And we didn't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Bro seventeen when I was in New England, I was
I was looking to face him.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
They got bounced out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The first round by ja.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, and now you know, you fast forward to the
day we're eight nine years in. We ain't got a
playoff win, but we ain't had a losing breaker along
with hell, we lost to U Bombs in twenty like
Baker Manfield went crazy on I.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I was on the team first, like that first, like
that was over my man being head. It was just
was a bad day, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So it's great to not have a losing season, but
that's that's not the Stellers organization. Like, that's not the goal.
Like the goal when we get in there is not
to have a losing season. You know, it's to go
in there and win championships. And right now, dude, our goal,
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I feel like has been switched over to not having
a losing season, and the standard of what it was
for championships has been lowered to a winning season, and
that's not the stealers that we were built on or
the organization period.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, I feel that. I feel it. I mean I
think like you said, I think the big thing since
when twenty seventeen, I could only speak when I was
there twenty seventeen that ye, I wish you got a chance.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
To play in coach the Bols defense. Dude, I do too.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
The thing is the bo I just know that it's
a lot of like I'm smart. I would like to
call myself a smart football player. I played in a
lot of different defenses. I played cornerback, you know what
I'm saying for a long time. So when I was
in when I first got to the league, like like
you said, just learning man and man, learning different defenses.
And then I'm learning getting a bunch of different decoordinators,
so I'm learning just all different types. So by the
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time I got to Pittsburgh, I would like to give
coach seeing them credit because the one thing I knew
is I was smart. So I knew when I went
into the game the game plan what we needed to
do to win. You know what I'm saying, what they
were going to try to go after, what we needed
to do showed me my stuff. So I think from
when you're saying it, younger players are kind of you
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need to have those bat players to teach you what's
going on the ins and out. It's the defense because
you won't be able to learn it in an off
season and a training get it's just way too much.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So just being able to pass the torch and being able.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
To get especially, dude, I feel you, I feel you.
I just say for me though, I just know it
was just I was rocking with Coach T because I
knew what I had to do and it just made
it easier for me. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So you like or you're you're where are you standing
on it coming to an end?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I am with with a coming possibility, I should.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Say, with the possibility of it coming to an end,
I am understanding because you can't be in a spot
for so long and then just it just it's not
going the way it's supposed to be going. You're not
showing the trajectory of it getting better.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And better and better.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's a lot of just eight and eights, eight nights.
So with Coach T, I think he's a great coach.
He can go do this somewhere else, bring Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If they were to let him go at the end
of the season, he would have a job.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Hung the phone up a thousand percent. But that's because
that's why two things could be the same. Like coach
t is a great coach, but maybe the situation there
is just a little it maybe a different voice, a
different change of tune. I don't know, because it's not
like I don't think coach he's not a good coach.
I think coach he's a great coach.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
When I started, when I went over there and started playing.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
For him, just what I knew, what I needed to do,
what he told me for the games, just the just
when you come into the team meeting room, I knew
we were going to get good stuff about what we're playing,
what we were doing, what we need to do. Solid
Like he's a great leader of men in my opinion.
With that being said, being in that locker room and
having just rotation, being like you said, coming in with
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a team from like seven that already has leaders, you
don't have to do too much like building of locker
room or camaraderie and all that.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's already there.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
All you gotta do is go there, be a good coach,
be a leader of man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
And let the locker room be ran by the locker room.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know what I'm saying. Once you start being in
different draft picks, a different draft classes, and that that
leadership starts.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
To change in the locker room, I mean, maybe you got.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
To go to another team that already he has the leadership,
already got a good spot, and just needs a voice
of a head coach that can be able to set
up these pieces, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't think coach T's Jack. I think that for Pittsburgh,
they want championships. They want to win this eight and eight.
This little the defense isn't performing as well as it should.
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So with that being the case, if coach he was
the coacher but a lot of other teams and he
wasn't performing at a level, it would be able they
would have moved on quicker. But it being Pittsburgh and
then being kind of nervous and just liking status quote
and having coach T. That's a great coach as status
quote coach, he would be a great coach with any
other squad, you know what I'm saying. But just the
maybe it's time. You know what I'm saying. Maybe it's
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okay that our time is not like Andy Reiding the Eagles.
I would go there. They great times, they won, they
did good. But it's like, maybe it's not the time
right now. You know what I'm saying. That could be
the same way.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Okay, I respect that. I may not agree, but I
respect that. Hey, your boys should do or he got
rookie other week after the game, Bro, I guess he
is the first rookie this year, your first rookie quarterback
to receive the honor.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
What Joe, what do you a from door? Against them? Brown?
I mean against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
All I know is, brother, the way it's supposed to
be like ten degrees feeling like negative four. We need
to do some of just the same stuff. I like
s your Door because he played in Colorado. He's a quarterback,
and when he was throwing the ball last week it
was terrible weather, he was spinning the rock like he's
able to throw in the elements, and I love that
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for my quarterback. So I just wanted to don't turn
the ball over hand it off to Juggins.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You know what interception? Right now?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I know they're going to be trying to get some picks.
I know they're gonna trying to get some picks, and
it's gonna be cold as a muther, so good luck.
But I just think we got to run the ball
well and take them good. Take take our shot opportunities,
and don't turn the ball over to do what you've
been doing, sha door, don't do those spinouts, you know
what I'm saying. That's the only thing I do.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
What do you expect him to do that kind of
you know, hit here, and.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I expect him with the weather being like this, I
expect him. I just wanted him to go Probably we're
gonna go twenty. We're gonna go seven twenty, twenty, twenty
for thirty for two hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yards, two touchdowns. No, you getting numbers, We get numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I mean, isn't there right, zero I in ts, zero
I ins. And we've been we've been throwing We've been
throwing pitts, you know what I'm saying a little once
in a while. But I just think we got to
control the ball, just keep it. Nope, nope, nope, he's
gonna he's gonna he's gonna protect No no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Your hands said interception.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You said no, no, no, no, no, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Can't have it, can't.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Do it, man, Joe burrow Man, he had some you know,
he had he had some words. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Just you listen to her brother, You tell.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
God you I want to keep doing this. I have
to have fun doing it. Uh you know, I've been
through a lot and if it's not fun, then what
am I doing it for? A sole's mindset I'm trying
to bring to the table.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but seemed frustrated.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
There's just a lot of things going on right now,
a lot of things going on right now, all related personally,
all do both. Like you said, there's nothing. All we
can do is is focused week too. We can try
to try to win games. I don't think anybody's really
thinking about the playoffs right now.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That's a that's within reach but on our fingertips.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
So we just gotta keep doing what we're doing and
try to get better.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Joel right, I'm man, Yeah, what what do you take
from that? Joe?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
That man sound big sad debo?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I think? Is Joe undercome.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Gotta be they gave it. I know, I'm just saying,
did they get How big is the bag they gave?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Oh my goodness, they gave Joe Bro? He get about
fifty five a year.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Joe Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
It sounded like you want to have fun, and to
me it sounds like the fun thing. I mean, you
know what fun is. Winning is fun. Winning is fun.
You know, two seventy five you were in you know, Cleveland,
you weren't having that much fun. I think he wants
to have fun now. And you know, with that being said,
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maybe he's revaluating his decision and thinking about it a
little more because you know, right now, like he said,
nobody's thinking about playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know how far they are out, you know what,
the need to happen. A lot of impossibilities, a lot
of possibilities. That's kind of impossible, but it's impossible because
it's a possibility. So what you so, what you're thinking?
What you're thinking He's saying, what do you.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Think he's I'm thinking he's saying he's just putting it
out there that he's not happy here and it could
be a possibility of maybe you know, somebody or I mean,
I'm pretty sure they're probably getting calls or some sort
of gauge, you know, interests of you know what it
is that they may or may not be willing to
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take and receive too, maybe hand him to a competing
football So I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I'm just talking. No me, I'm just talking. I'm just
running my mind.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm just thinking it would never give him to They
would never give him to the Stillers.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
I said competitive football team. I didn't say like arrival.
I didn't say they would give him to the Stillers. No,
maybe they could, maybe somebody else could get him and
we could trade for him to get you know, I mean,
hope it ain't a poison pilling there like you know
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with persons. I don't know, man, I'm just you just
throwing things out there. I'm just I'm just I'm just
putting it up in the air. You got to put
it in the atmosphere before anything can go around happen
possibilities in this.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I think Joe Burrow is mad and sad and just
pissed that their team isn't that good and at the
same time getting hit all the time. Upside the head
being out there doesn't help. Like when people are bringing
up like Andrew Luck being able.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
To retire a little early.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They say he got hit one hundred, he got sacked
one hundred and seventy three times, and Joe Burrow's been
sacked two hundred and like ten times. And then at
the same time, I mean Joe Burrow he got fire receivers.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
He doesn't have a line. Hey, I think maybe it's
up you can't That's what I was thinking. Dude, you
you lead there.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I know you still Joe, but no, no, for sure
over there you got three You know it's a three
piece you, me and them two go, it's a three
piece all or nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
See No they then you're gonna to You're gonna dis
remember somebody's whole squad. They literally be changing teams. But
I think for real real, he's just letting them know
he needs. What Joe Burrows was actually asking to be
expat Higgers to stay. He asks for Jamar Chase to stay.
So these dudes all have big contracts. What they do
need to do is for real, now, since they do
have that main the you need. They need defense obviously,
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and they need offensive line. So I think hopefully if
they want to keep Joe Burrow in the draft. Only
thing you draft is how much money.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You say, how much money you got over there on
offense though you got you got room to pay.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
No, No, you're drafting. You got a draft, well, you
gotta draft. Well, you got draft well, draft and draft
only offensive line and only defense. And if you're go
into free agency only offensive line only defense. You need
to buffer and protect this man at all costs because.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
The end of the day, you can't.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
He's getting beat up and you can't have him. He's
been hurt, like it's all these injuries since two thousand.
You can't have him out there keep getting beat up
and you want him to be a franchise. So he's
telling him like, look all right, man, I'm not happy.
My head hurts, my leg hurts, my knees, everybody so
hurts my shoulder. You know what I'm saying, Like, give
me some protection or because at the end of the day, too,
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those calls want to come. Joe burg can go to
a team with a line that don't have a quarterback,
that has a solid defense, and he'll come switch up
the situation for a lot of teams and they'll come,
drop the bag, get picks and everything.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So I think it's a little just him telling.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Them like, look, man, I am Joe Burrow and I
know my value. I keep getting beat up. I need
to try to stay health and he's been injured a lot.
So now he's looking at it like I'm it's doesn't
I'm not getting hit any less. I'm continuing to get hit.
I'm always hurt. Protect me or I shall bounce.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, just putting it out there,
letting them know, lett him know.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's temperature.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, you know, ms are you know it donun dropped
a little bit. It ain't.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It ain't as hot as it was we had won
that game. I might I might not be feeling this way,
you know, so I understand, But you know, to me,
I think it's just you know, putting the filler out there,
you know, seeing you know, seeing what the cat dragging.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know, you know, you say anything out there.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I mean you could have said that, you know, to
the you know by yourself, you ain't have to, you know,
let it out there and open.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
So you had to let it out there and open.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I ain't got no problem with it, you know, everybody
y'all know, you know, everybody know nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Joe ain't too happy over there. Now you don't want
Joe and happy, you.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Don't tight and sideline reporter removed from the team playing
from the team charter playing after sharing a story of
cam Ward from the flight.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Do you know what happened on that Joe? No, I
don't know what the story was. Yeah, I don't know
what the story is either.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Obviously he must have gave some insight intel that was
talked on the plane.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
That's what you need to do, is they guys that
you gotta shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, I don't think they should have the reporters and
everybody else on the same plane.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
That way, you don't run into that issue. Like, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
But he actually was asked about it, and you know
he said the same thing, like he don't he ain't
got no no issue with Like he didn't change what
he said. The reporter wanted to apologize for letting it out,
but I guess as cam was like, no, I don't.
I don't feel bad that it. You know about what
(48:44):
I said, I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I gotta figure out what did he say? Though?
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Do you say somebody he just said that.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Basically, he was saying that they won, but the play
wasn't good enough. You know, he tried to make it
seem like what a reporter, try to make it seem
like he wasn't gracious for the win or whatever. I mean,
if you can't be uh, you know, correctively criticism, criticize yourself,
Like what do you expect. I don't like, I said,
(49:14):
I don't see a I don't see an issue with it.
I think that's just you know, being accountable, having accountability.
I mean the reporter, maybe he shouldn't have let it out.
He shouldn't have been in a position to be able
to let it out. Put his put his butt on
a different plane, yeah, or flying commercial. Yeah he's a
(49:34):
red like yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, that's that's his job. He seems to me like,
y'all just want the man to be quiet.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I mean I could if it's I mean, yeah, I
don't know, get him on a different plane. They might
not be a reporter for you. Reporters know they know
what's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
You know, it was bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Might get me somewhere. He's not happy and they wont
let me report. Oh got him no, nah, he said, yeah,
and I still ain't happy. Now what you gotta apologize for? Real?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
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He gonna have to he's gonna have to use his feet. Man,
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Speaker 3 (51:01):
I got Lamar for more.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Hey, he's gonna have a run longer than some thirteen
point five.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
I got him from more. He's getting a little healthier against.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
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the worst in the rush got Bongos Bengals, Sorry, the Bengals.
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Speaker 3 (51:32):
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Why Buffalo they doing that thing in the past, came Bro,
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Speaker 2 (51:40):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And it's gonna be a tough game. Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
They in Buffalo, like, come on.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
It's gonna it's probably gonna be snowing.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, okay, and listen, you don't even got to ask
me about that one.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yes, you know what time it is. It's more, it's
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Speaker 1 (52:20):
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Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yes, her, I want to tell you something, Joe, what's up?
My brother? I believe that I can fly, if I
could touch the sky. I think about it every night
and day.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know, I spread my wings in a fly away.
I believe I can sew. Hey, I see me running
through that open door. Hm, I believe I can fly.
I can fly. I believe I can fly.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
He used to.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Joe yes game. So if you were to give sha
Door the perfect game stats, what would it look like?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
The perfect game stats? I would give Shador because honestly,
with this game, No, not this game. I said, perfect game,
what would that look like? I would love to see
it this game, but it's just look I would hope
he could do the perfect game. But honestly, this game.
And I gotta say for this game, this game, because
(53:49):
we were playing Chicago. It's a good team. I don't
want to have to put it on his hands to
make him have to beat him. But thrown for four
hundred yards like we can get some dump offs like downfield,
have a couple of balls to Judy to Tillman, But
mainly I need fanning.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
They run defense, Ain't that tough either?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Though I know they run game.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Ain't that tough? No, it ain't they run. They run defense.
Ain't that tough.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's why we're working with Juggins, Bro Junkins, Samson, and
then we're gonna work with Fanning. Dude, I thought he
was going through something last game, and he ain't come through.
I know, bro, he low, he love, but that's why
he can't do it two times in a row.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
So we got your door. This game is going to be.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Actually, I only want to throw the ball like twenty
five times.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I wanted to be twenty for twenty five.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
The five incompletes are mainly instead of like check down
or he had to throw them out of the bounds,
had to get the had to just you know, throw it.
I throw it away. Twenty to twenty five to fifty
to sixty two toughs, you know what I'm saying. Boom,
and then Jugkins is going to have two Russian touchdowns,
so we're gonna have around twenty eight points, you know
what I'm saying. And our defense is going.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
To how many times I mean, I mean Russians. You
got junk As.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I need him to have twenty twenty at least twenty
twenty and Sam Skin Samson can get five, Sam Sin.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Get five, you gotta have another five.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I think you do is gonna run.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
His five and get his yard. You're gonna run five
and get about twenty five, you know, what I'm saying,
that's thirty.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
That's thirty totes, thirty totes, twenty five defense. Go do
what's your defense. Go do what they supposed to do, Miles.
Is what they do last time.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
I'm trying to figure that out. What they do last time,
Joe cd BO. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
You always be green. But look that's what they have.
One bad week and then they're gonna come right back
and show why they're the number one defense.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Miles Garrett is gonna get probably number one.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
They probably three Miles sold on me. Look just six
he went and got one. Now you got sold on man.
You got a dub Man.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
You can't be telling he's sold with a walking around
with a double sacks, so supposed to get six, you're wild.
What's the most you had in the game, d BO?
I think I said it was a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Uh, it might have been. I think it was three
and a half.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
You had ten tackles, three and a half sacks, a pick,
a PBu and two forced fumbles. I just said across
my timeline the other day, you was thinking, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Know what I'm saying. I had to make sure I
got over there to do.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
The over there in Hawaii real quick. Yeah, to bust
it out in one game. You know who.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
That game right there? A three three and a half
or will get you to get you across that water,
no question.
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Check your grand for the clip of the grandson, Saint
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We appreciate your donation, and like I said, we will
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Please, we want to thank all of you. Joe and I.
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We want to thank all you guys for joining us
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Of Debo and Joe.
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Speaker 3 (58:08):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Let's go Debo.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Joe, or you mute it again? Joe.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
You're good, Joe? How did you mute yourself?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (58:21):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
Go ahead, Joe, we live Debo. I can't wait to
be back on Monday. You already know what time it is.
I will say on Monday, what's up?
Speaker 3 (58:30):
And were out?
Speaker 2 (58:31):
And we out
Welcome back to another episode of D one and Joe.
I'm your host, James D. Bo Harrison, and I'm here
with my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you
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How you're doing today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Joe, bro, I'm doing great, Debo, great brother. Had a
game to watch last night. I thought it was over.
It wasn't over thought I could fall asleep. So yeah,
we got a good one on it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
On the definitely, yeah it was. It was definitely a
good game.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The Bucks lost to the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is sixth loss they done.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Had in the last eight games, dude, including the last
two back to back losses to division opponents in New
Orleans and Atlanta. And now the Panthers are in first
place dude in the South in the NFC. Brother, let's
just jump on into this thing, yes, sir, letting rain
and get a cracking baby Bucks. Get out there, dude.
(00:54):
Irvin was back. He comes out on the first play,
he strikes out on him for eleven dude. Play Baker's pressure.
He dumped it to Irving again. He picks baby. The
next play, Bakers plaid passes block and then I think
they stopped irving for a second down, no game, and
the third down, I think it was incomplete, like he
(01:16):
just dropped that thing into no man's land right there.
They end up punting it and it gets down. I
think it was down at the one, but they said
it was touched, so they ended up. Yeah, they ended
up pulling it out at the at the six. I
didn't see it get touched. I ain't gonna lie I
didn't either.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I'm still I was still looking for it. I didn't.
I didn't see a good touch man.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And then after a one yard run on first down,
b John picks up ten on that second down.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
He was doing things all night.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
He was.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Now listen the next play, Cousins hit pits that that
dude went crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes he did that. That's a baby gator. He went, yes, yeah,
for sure, for sure, dude. And then it was back
to back plays.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think Robinson went for four on a run and
then he dumped him one. He took for nine, third
and two. They ended up getting a false start and
then after that, the dude, they was getting penalties left
and right. That started them out. They ended up having
to punt the ball back to the bucks. Bucks get
(02:22):
out there. I think on that second down, Irving hit
a nice little one.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
For seven and he gets sacked.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But your boy twenty four out there. He had a
long day, man, my good man Terrell. I love his game.
But it was a lot of holding, man. It was
a physical play. Mike Emanson was holding him by the
back of the shoulder pass a couple of times. So
he was out there fighting for his life. Tbo before
his life.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The next player, I think it was White, he took
one twenty and then the second down nine Baker hit
Evans for like twelve. That next second Baker gets sacked. Right,
it's third and fifteen, dude, twenty three dog and it
was a penalty, yes they yeah, dude, it was. It
(03:10):
was your boy again, having having a rough day.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
A long day, bro, with a lot of holding going on,
a lot of for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think the I think the next play, that's when
he hit McMillan for what nineteen to the one.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It was a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It was a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He got black, Yeah, he got.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm glad he didn't do nothing stupid reached the ball out.
He just made sure he didn't fumble. Yes, respect trying
to do something dumb. He could have lost it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yo. You see they on that lead block on that
second down though.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh my goodness, Oh my lord, oh my lord, they score. Dude,
it's seven. It's seven nothing. The first play, Cousins get
out there.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Who he hit?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Who he pits the baby? Either man, the man? The
jus a little loose on them, bro, it's getting loose
on them.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I don't know, Like it was a couple of times
they just made like they wouldn't go even you know,
follow or do nothing with this man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, they getting a holding on the next play with
kicks it to first and twenty. Boy Bjon picks up eight,
and then the next play he get another seven and
third down.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Because of his steals for ten.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
They pick up the first down, and then they follow
that up with a false start, but that ends up
being a holding by the defense after that for the
first down, Dude, it was so many penalties.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It was so many penalties. I started losing track, like
I'm trying to keep track. And then they had the
field goal and off sides right, so then they got
to be able to get back out there onto the field.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, so they get back out there. They end up
getting a touchdown off of that. Yes, I think it
was pits right that was pissed again.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yep, yep, miscommunications wide open.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Bucks, get back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think that second down, Baker is sacked, but it's
a holding first down. Yes, they end up having to
They end up being able to hold them though, so
they punt the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
They forced him the punt.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Atlanta gets out there first down, Bejon, he go for
a hot thirty brother.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
What happened though? They are holding holding all of this.
It's a lot of good stuff, a lot of and then.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
After that it's a false start.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, verse sixteen, Verse.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Sixteen, John picks up thirteen though, Like, I think it's
what it's second and whatever it is, and I believe
they ended up getting to what was it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Man, he got to something. We made it third and
fifteen because they got yeah, debo.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it was a false start on thirty ten that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, bro it' started getting some bad ball. I'm trying
to keep my notes. I'm like, how many okay, flag
flag flag y'all?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Punt y'all just been Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
They gonna ahead and point that thing. Bucks get back
out there. I think it was third and six, Yes,
taking his Evans for twelve out beautiful. Yes, next play,
what was it? Uhoko? Google man, he breaks tackles and
shakes him, gets gets twelve on them.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's a first.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And then McMillan again for what was in nineteen twenty? Yes, sir,
but somehow Atlanta holds him to a field goal. I
don't know how, but they did it. Ten to seven.
Falcons come out and go four plays sixty five yards
for a touchdown with a first down dump pass to
(06:46):
Robinson for nine, a quick run for three, followed by
Cousins hitting Pits for six. Rut dude, that was the
codes out I ever seen. It looked like he adjusted
that to change the route in the middle of running it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, that was that was meant to be that way.
That's what it looked like. That's because it was so good.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and then right after that he gone head wide
open for the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Bro second man through his own linebacker looking crazy. We
got a good post take out the cover three corner.
He's just chilling paplaying We'll touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Fourteen to ten.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They up now listen, Bucks, get the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I think it's only like thirty thirty three seconds, Debo
thirty three seconds. Thirty three seconds. Of course, with the help.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Of Atlanta with a defensive face mask and something else,
they go what was it? Thirty three to Evans yep
able to kick a field goal?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
dB falling down on the can. I sup with the turf?
What's up with the turf? The had loose? The only
dude that had on good cleats was Robinson. Robinson was
the only with the good cleats on because he was cutting.
He was cutting like it was perfect grass. He slipped
one time too one time, but he was cutting up
a lot more than he was slipping. Yeah, they're going
(08:06):
to halftime. Thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Atlanta started the third quarter with a sixteen yard game
by that dude Bijon.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
On the check down. He must have came out of
a locker room with fresh, fresh cleats, because that's the
one I'm talking about chopping people all the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, but hey, they would stall out because you know,
fase start on third down holding, they punt the ball.
You know what I'm saying the Bucks. This is where
the Bucks get the ball back and they get a
holding penalty after he done kicked it out the back
of the end zone. That kicks him back to the team,
and then they proceed to go nine plays ninety yards
(08:49):
ankor hits what is ituka fore laser that thing in there, dude,
laced it in there.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That was and then a bomb to Evans forty five
where he just went over the top of that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Man head top, watch your head, young bull. Fifty to
fifty ball my ass.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No, not even close to it. Of course you got
to add that. You got to add that legal contact
on that third and thirteen. In completion, they gave him
a first plus the tripping call, you know, the second
and goal, Yeah, second and goal. Baker hits cool for
the touchdown. It's fourteen to twenty. Now, yes, sir, Atlanta
(09:31):
come out. You know. I think they might have picked
up like maybe two first downs. I think one was
Bjon again twenty one shaking him. He got twenty one
on now and then steals he could have caught that
pass for that touchdown right after that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And dropped it. Dude, dropped it dropped that thing. That
was just wow. That was just that was just terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You're a professional, Yeah, you're a professional, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
After that, I think it was Mooney he got he
got thirteen.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That was there. That was their other.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
First down, and the intentional grounding on second down just
really it killed everything.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It killed it all. They punted the ball, but them.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Boys over there and uh and Tampa was trying to
help him out. He gonna hit and muff that thing.
Almost give him the ball back right there. He's able
to recover it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Somebody. He got lucky. That's that's that's luck, dude, that's
lucky bounces.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, that's dude. No, that's lucky bounces, dude. Could be
a completely different game, Yes, could.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Be a completely different game. It still got ugly anyway,
but for sure, Yeah, I think the first down, Baker
hit Evans again for about twenty. Second down, Irving went
for sixteen, and then Bakers get sacked on the next
second down. They end up forcing them to punt the
ball yep. And then Falcons get back out there. His
(10:55):
second down, damn man, Bjon fumbles through rock. Think they
like at the twenty twenty five end.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Up recovering it. You have twenty five, y'all line.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Dude, first play Baker to Evans for ten, need that
second pass interference to down hell for god.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
The next second down Godwin goes head, he go here,
hit god when he gets him the touchdown. It's fourteen
to twenty eight. Dude, I ain't gonna lie this one
for the two p two hit the two point yep,
this is where I'm thinking, yo. The game is over
with Atlanta comes to life. Eight plays, sixty five yards, touchdown,
(11:40):
no penalties now, no marching down smoothly, no penalties like
nice big two games of what was it eighteen by
Pitts on the third and twelve? What was it thirty
two twenty by steal Is?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Then still there you go catching the ball, yes, trying
to get it over.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He could have caught that up, Yeah he can. Yeah,
he redeemed itself.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Man, I'm after that one, Burdie. You gotta catch everything.
Everything he did, every though he did.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Though, Djihon scores on the six yard run for the touchdown.
They go for the two point conversio.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Let me tell you about how do you feel about this?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
What you you going for two?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I ain't going for two right there? I'm not going
for two, not right there? Why is everybody keep going
for two?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I ain't going for two right there? Because give yourself
a chance go for one right.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
If you do, you gotta be able to give yourself
the option to go for one or two, or you're
not even giving yourself the chance to know you you
gotta go score again. So just seven and now when
I go there, I can kick the field it or
I could go ahead, bang on you and go for
two and winning the joint. Right, Just the first one
is throwing off. Stop doing it, please, coach, just stop.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Bucks get back out there.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
They complete one first down and then second down. Baker
helps them out. But that was a good don't drop.
Hey the boy he climbed it for it though.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That was a good zone drop. And he climbed the
ladder right there. Brother, Yes, that's your that's your cirl flat.
He gotta get underneath the out mm hmm right, ain't
nothing in front of you, and it ain't nothing but cheese.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Get back. Come on, they're trying to set you up.
Get back. It's coming out there.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
He had the jam a little number two and then
he kind of didn't really even hit him for real
because he knew he had to get on the number
one and make it. I respect it. Come on, great
play by out Falcons.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Get out there again. These boys go ten plays sixty
seven yards for a touchdown. Jon goes fourteen on the
very first down, third and seven pits again. I think
what was dudes? Ain the other running back? Uh he
went for fifteen?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
They did?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, second and ten though, money, he gets sixteen,
but he fumboedd brother.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
This is when I'm talking about a good luck bounce.
It was five of them right there. Hey, it was
five of them. That lineman came in there joint.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Four speed de bo. Then I don't know how he
came out with that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't know either. He wondered how he came out
with that second down? What they do? Falls start third
and go.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Who they hit?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Who they hit?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hits brother to give his third t d at a game.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Third and they call it one cheek equals two feet
exactly the cheek, Hey, the cheek cheek down down, cheek
down feet down, chey.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They go for two again, of course they had to.
Then they miss it. I ain't gonna lie. I'm thinking, hey,
I'm looking at like now you idiots, you know, I mean, like, hey,
maybe this is over with because it's only what by
time with three yes, by time the bus get the
ball back.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Mm hmm they convert.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I think it was like one first down.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
He got one first down.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
They started forcing them to use their timeouts. They run
on the next first down, they lose four and then
you go and you throw and incompletion on second down.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, they thought they was gonna get that, brother, They
thought they was going. They had them BOOKO a little
bit behind. They trying to finish. They trying to win
the game. They're trying to go and get this first
down and not try to get.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The ball back.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Get sacked though on third like come on, yeah he did,
he did. He did second and complete third down, sack
now and Lannigan got the ball back. It's under two minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Left one for the second first play. They hear steals
for seventeen. Cool, they ain't bad. Cousins get sacked, fumble.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The rock and they recovered that. I don't know how again, dude,
but you know what, this is the third.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That one because the Bucks got that one when it
was five people around. So somehow they finiggled that one.
So I'll give it a I'll give it a turnover
for a turnover. They get a holding car.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think that kicked him to what like third and
damn there thirty third, twenty eight, third and twenty eight, Yeah,
because Fi's picked up half of that on the third down,
worth and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What how do you let him get twenty one?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Why are you he's the cover two corner for one thing?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Why are you pressed?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And he's cut split and you let him get outside?
Release of you? Everything inside, everything inside?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
What are you doing? And then sink keep sinking if
he gets outside of you, continue to sink all the
way down until like that's like a you could you
could pick the ball off. Don't let him get outside
of you. For one, you're supposed to push, push him
inside to your safety. You're in cover two high too low,
it's set. It's fourth and fourteen, So simple.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Checks down to the man that breaking up.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
We're rallying, we're rallying, we're fumbling them, we're knocking shit off.
And if he's if it's what he's gonna be fifth
and three, fifth and five, No, the game is oh right,
like back up, back up, and we're gonna come.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Fifth and five. What it gonna be?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But it gonna beat the bow.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
He got that wallin.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Man, they kicked the field goal on third down. Dude,
with four seconds left, they make it lose twenty nine
to twenty eight due like Tampa, Bro, they got some
issues over there. The defense sold on them boards. You know,
fourth and fourteen was the killer, that was it. They
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let Pitts go crazy for like one sixty six three tuddies,
two of them.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He was just wide open.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The defense gave up almost five hundred yards, four hundred
and seventy six yards.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And listen, on top of that, Atlanta had nineteen penalties.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Dude, you got beat with a team that had nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Kennedy's what I'm saying, Dude.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Atlanta showed up late as a.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Defense when it was critical, bro, Like they stepped up,
especially the turnover.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
That fourth quarter turnover, Dude.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That was shoes, Dude, that was shoes the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I think they possessed the ball almost eleven minutes in
the fourth quarter, dude, four or five on third down
with the fourth down being the.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
One, so they ain't missed none in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think Cousins was what thirteen for one forty five
with a touchdown just in the fourth Like, the defense
just sold, man, Like, I don't I don't even know
what you like, what do you even have to say
to defend yourself in that one.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Dude, did you hear the.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Way that they coach was talking after the game? Bo
oh man? And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's what I'm like, Man, this was not this was
not public TV aired he was he was talking to
them like he was in the locker room. He kept
cussing so much. I was like, is he just doing
this on purpose? Like we got your point across, but
he kept he kept on dropping the bombs. I want
to tell him, this is what I said, this is
what I said, This is how I'm just how I'm feeling,
like this is you've grown men like dah da dada.
I'm like, end of the day when I'm going to
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tell you is you're up fourteen? I feel everything is
saying no matter all this stuff that's on the team
had nineteen penalties, Like it's fourth and fourteen. It's like
all of these plays that you could have easily still
after everything happened, could have walked out of the stadium,
would a win, and you could have walked out with
a win after that. Dude, it's easy. But like that
stuff is crazy. That cover two that corner right there,
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My man's it's for the game. It's fourth and fourteen.
It's not third and fourteen. This is for all of
the marbles that checkdown that they gave pits to when it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Was third and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
For him to get it down there, that's a lot
of yards, and I respect him. Keep missed the tackle
a little bit, trying to keep him in bounce. Respect
Right now, it's fourth down and fourteen. Back all the
way up. You know what I'm saying. Make them happen.
You have to catch the ball down and come down
and get it like there's no world that far up.
And there's no world where even if you're a covered
two corner that you're letting that man is getting that.
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You notice the sweet spot.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's that's the spot.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Back up. Make sure that we can rally down to everything.
I'm closer to the when it's hollow, you're playing in
the middle. No, it's four and fourteen. I'm high. I'm high.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You not throwing this.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm under right underneath of them, like I'm looking like
I can touch him on my arm so I can
break down to the other play. That's just not good ball.
So coaches has every right to be mad. Oh yeah,
he won offensive side, and then like the they're the defense.
I mean, just miscommunications. People are in the open. What
are we doing in the zones? Grab that man, you
know what I'm saying, Like he was beating you man,
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wonder one. We feel great safety. I love him, But
you're five to nine and you got your going to
get sixty three to two me six four to two something.
He's a lot bigger than you can need a little
bit of help. So, yeah, it was it was wild. Yeah,
for sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh, I don't know. I don't know where the bucks go.
Uh they having a good to day, they damn so
still at work right now.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
For sure, that brother is in the hospital for a
long issue.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I guess he Uh, I don't know exactly what happened,
but they're saying, you know, he.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Was in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So the initial report was a was a long issue.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Let me look at this real quick. Let's get let's
get let's let's get let's get it this.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So later on it came out that the latest report
said that Tach that TJ was hospitalized for some long
discomfort after a treatment session at the Steller's facility. Joeys
Her a treatment session. What what do you get from that, Joe.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I get treatment session? We mean, and so when I
let me get when I first started listening to this
and I hear the lung stuff, like you're initially thinking, like,
all right, it happened at practice. So if it's a practice,
it's no. It's like that's where somebody could you could hit,
you could run into somebody some contact where boom, lung boom.
But this one is saying in treatment, so I know
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very well as well as you do. Treatment is where
you're getting worked on, you're getting massage, you're getting you
can get dry needling, you can get acupuncture, things like that.
So I would say that maybe it's going to the
point of dry needling something like that, where right now
I'm saying he gets hospitalized. Dry needling is something that
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can actually puncture the lung something where Tyrod.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Taylor that happened that the staff did to me.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They were trying to numb something.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think, no, no, I feel you, But I'm just saying
that didn't come out at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But it's like the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's just puncturing, like like when your doctors at the
facility are actively side, not a doctor, not doctors, you're
not not doctors. The staff, the training, the trainings that
we don't know to the t. So that's where I'm
I'm with it, where I think that it was more
of a you know, a treatment thing where and for
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the Steelers they're going to obviously right now, protect protect, protect,
you keep everything on the inside, you know what I'm saying,
Like if something happened where this now we'd be looking like,
you know, who did it?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Who was working on TJ, Like it's going to be
a whole lot of those questions.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
So right now it's a lot of damage control probably
going on.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
But for me, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Like you're talking about puncturing loans, you talk about having
to be a meeting.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Here's the issue. But here's the issue.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You. I know, in PA, you can get your license
to dry needle as long as your license physical therapist
and it only take like fifty hours. So you go
and do fifty hours over you know, a couple of
months and now your license to dry needle. And what
people don't understand is just because your license don't mean
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you know what the hell you're doing. Like I'm not
letting anybody just anybody dry needle me if you ain't
done with and put in fifteen twenty years, I'm not
letting you dry needing me. And I'm talking about somebody
that they do that on a weekly in and out
basis ten fifteen twenty years of work. Because everybody's anatomy
is not the same. You can go and stick a
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needle and a dude that got a lot of fat
on him in his back and not touch a lung
a guy that got less fat. You can't take that
same needle and put it there. You can mess around
to going to somebody's trap here and puncture their lung
depending on how much little fat you got there too.
So with that being a case, like it needs to
be more than just you're a physical therapist and now
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you're going to take a you know, fifty hours over
you know, a couple months, and now you're licensed to
actually go in here and work, especially especially work on
professional athletes like this is like their bread and butter.
Teams like should be like, yo, no, we should get
somebody that actually does this instead of being like you
know what, let's just go and send one of our
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people get licensed so we can do it and just
have it legally done. No, go and pay the money.
You can get somebody that actually knows what they're doing
and been doing it for at least a decade or more,
and you have actual you know, like reviews or people
that's saying, yo, I've had this treatment and you watch
them work like I'm watching you work before I'll let
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you put some needles in me. And like I said,
and on top of that, you got to have ten more.
I'm not just letting you put no needles in me. Probably, No,
I'm with you. I think I think one percent that
this is something along those lines. But I mean, like
you said, we won't find out probably until later on
down the line. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just hope and prayer, you know, because you know,
anytime you start talking about the lung stuff, you really
you don't you don't know, you know what I'm saying.
He had to go get get to the emergency room,
get to the hospital immediately to make sure everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So I don't want to I just.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well, from my understanding, he's still there. So like you know,
you're talking about something. What was it when they said
we're on Friday now and that's not Yeah, that's not
a small thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
No, no, no, that's it, and it's traumatic, honestly, Like
you never know how TJ's Philly's still in the hospital.
You don't know, you know what I'm saying, Like I
would hope to know, like what what was actually happened,
like what kind of treatment he was getting, what was
going on? You know how teams and everything. When you
really want to you hear something about a man, you
want to know what's going on. We want to get
the inside, so you don't want to guess or anything.
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But at the same time, there's stealers and everybody on
that side is probably going to try to keep it
in house as long as you but I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know how it goes. We all know we've been there.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Everything trying to be kept in the house, no matter
where you're at, if you're Browns, Whoever's everything is for
the most part trying to be kept in the house.
But the Stellers, I guess we're at decades long run
that they say maybe coming to a coming to an end.
And I guess that's the you know, not having a
losing season as an organization since two thousand and three,
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I think was our last losing season.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So it's been two thousand and four to now what
do you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And then I think, Mike, is you know what eighteen
years or that or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, you think it's going in? Do you do?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Are you proud of the run? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But I think that's more of you. I want to
listen to. I want to hear your answer to this
question first, because.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm more here.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Just you know, Devot, you're kind of more vest you know,
you're saying you got the super Bowl a little bit more.
You're still a history than me, So I just want
to know, But like, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So I'll say that so safely, from two thousand and
four into the present, we've had a winning the season
or we haven't had a losing season.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I just.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's great. We also had, you know, two super Bowl championships.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So from two thousand and four to now, Mike Tomlin
came in what two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,
we won a championship. We also won one in two
thousand and five, So with that, you know, I think
he inherited a great culture, you know, along with a
defense that in two thousand and what was it six
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was a ninth rank defense. He kept the staff, he
you know, he kept the staff together. They stayed together,
you know, he allowed that great move, applauding for that.
In two thousand and seven we ended up when his
first year we were one, we were one five two
one one. So from two thousand and seven to twenty
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twelve we were one five two one one. Now in
twenty thirteen it dropped to a thirteen. In twenty fourteen
it dropped to a eighteen. Now, the narrative was dick
la Bose defense didn't work anymore, and that was false. Now,
Dickla Bose defense worked fine when you had players in
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there who knew the defense. I was in Cincinnati in
two thirteen, Okay, so I wasn't there, But I believe
that at that time Lebou was made to start younger
or rookie players that didn't have a full understanding of
the defense. And I believe that because in twenty thirteen
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I had a player call me and he said this
right here. He said, they just pulled me from being
the starter because quote, it's nothing you did wrong. We
just want to see what so and so can do.
I'm not putting names in there, okay, And that right
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there caused the defensive rankings to drop. You know, it
went all the way down in twenty fourteen to A eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
His contract. Coach Lebow's contract was not.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Renewed then because it was stated or believed that his
defense no longer worked. Okay, So in twenty fifteen it
was change of dcs and I believe we dropped to
twenty one. Now that was in cause because the Dick
Glebo defense that we ran was no longer the true
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Dick Glebo defense. It was tweaked by coaches that wanted
to do something different they thought would work better or
would fit the player's abilities better.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But when you go and you.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Tweaked that, it causes your defense that you're trying to
protect that one weekness from every defense has one week
It's just like when you do that, it causes and
creates more issues. So like twenty sixteen, I think we
ended up getting to like A twelve. I think that
was the highest that we were at twelve. We ended
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up going to New England and we lost the FC Championship. Now,
over the next four years, the defense got significantly batter.
So from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, I believe the
defense was high.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
As a that's when your boy, that's when your boy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Got So they were high as a three, and I
believe the lowest it was was a six. Now, if
you look at that, everybody want to say, Okay, well TJ.
Speaking of TJ, TJ is not. He ain't got any
no more. That's a lie. That's who got it. So
if you look at the numbers from twenty seventeen to
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twenty twenty, TJ when he first started, he might have
been doubled five percent of the time, if that up
to maybe twenty percent a little more in twenty twenty.
So the defense is three, four or five, six, whatever, No,
it's no lower than a six over those you know,
those four seasons. Right now, you get to twenty one
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and TJ is being doubled thirty percent or more. Okay
to now he's always been. He's almost being doubled seventy percent. Now,
why do I say this because you changed the defense. Now,
when you changed the defense, it was other defenses that
coach lebou would go to when that would happen to
us and it looked the same as the defenses. We
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would run where your outside linebackers was coming, but it
would be a different blitzer. So when you change the defense,
you change what's happening, You change who's where. You take
away that fear of looking at four different defenses and
it's different people coming on each one. Now you done
changed it to where someone's here or someone's there, and
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now you lose the ability to use the threatening defenses
because they're going to look different than the defenses that
are there that you actually send your guys.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean, so they're making it a look too simple,
now you think.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I think now people are seeing it easier because you
don't have teeth to go with anything that will look
identical to what it was supposed to be versus what
it could be. So coas le Boult had four defenses,
they would all look the same, but those four defense
would have different people. B Listen, So now I got
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the that's why rookie quarterbacks would be like they were
just coming from everywhere. Why because he's looking at something
that looks the same and he's thinking it's supposed to
be this and it's not. Yeah, So like I ain't
even lie to you. When I retired in eighteen, dude,
I thought like we were about to get a championship
because the offense was ranked like four, the defense was
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ranked like six.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
And we didn't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Bro seventeen when I was in New England, I was
I was looking to face him.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
They got bounced out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The first round by ja.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, and now you know, you fast forward to the
day we're eight nine years in. We ain't got a
playoff win, but we ain't had a losing breaker along
with hell, we lost to U Bombs in twenty like
Baker Manfield went crazy on I.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I was on the team first, like that first, like
that was over my man being head. It was just
was a bad day, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So it's great to not have a losing season, but
that's that's not the Stellers organization. Like, that's not the goal.
Like the goal when we get in there is not
to have a losing season. You know, it's to go
in there and win championships. And right now, dude, our goal,
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I feel like has been switched over to not having
a losing season, and the standard of what it was
for championships has been lowered to a winning season, and
that's not the stealers that we were built on or
the organization period.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, I feel that. I feel it. I mean I
think like you said, I think the big thing since
when twenty seventeen, I could only speak when I was
there twenty seventeen that ye, I wish you got a chance.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
To play in coach the Bols defense. Dude, I do too.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
The thing is the bo I just know that it's
a lot of like I'm smart. I would like to
call myself a smart football player. I played in a
lot of different defenses. I played cornerback, you know what
I'm saying for a long time. So when I was
in when I first got to the league, like like
you said, just learning man and man, learning different defenses.
And then I'm learning getting a bunch of different decoordinators,
so I'm learning just all different types. So by the
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time I got to Pittsburgh, I would like to give
coach seeing them credit because the one thing I knew
is I was smart. So I knew when I went
into the game the game plan what we needed to
do to win. You know what I'm saying, what they
were going to try to go after, what we needed
to do showed me my stuff. So I think from
when you're saying it, younger players are kind of you
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need to have those bat players to teach you what's
going on the ins and out. It's the defense because
you won't be able to learn it in an off
season and a training get it's just way too much.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So just being able to pass the torch and being able.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
To get especially, dude, I feel you, I feel you.
I just say for me though, I just know it
was just I was rocking with Coach T because I
knew what I had to do and it just made
it easier for me. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So you like or you're you're where are you standing
on it coming to an end?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I am with with a coming possibility, I should.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Say, with the possibility of it coming to an end,
I am understanding because you can't be in a spot
for so long and then just it just it's not
going the way it's supposed to be going. You're not
showing the trajectory of it getting better.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And better and better.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's a lot of just eight and eights, eight nights.
So with Coach T, I think he's a great coach.
He can go do this somewhere else, bring Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If they were to let him go at the end
of the season, he would have a job.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Hung the phone up a thousand percent. But that's because
that's why two things could be the same. Like coach
t is a great coach, but maybe the situation there
is just a little it maybe a different voice, a
different change of tune. I don't know, because it's not
like I don't think coach he's not a good coach.
I think coach he's a great coach.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
When I started, when I went over there and started playing.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
For him, just what I knew, what I needed to do,
what he told me for the games, just the just
when you come into the team meeting room, I knew
we were going to get good stuff about what we're playing,
what we were doing, what we need to do. Solid
Like he's a great leader of men in my opinion.
With that being said, being in that locker room and
having just rotation, being like you said, coming in with
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a team from like seven that already has leaders, you
don't have to do too much like building of locker
room or camaraderie and all that.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's already there.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
All you gotta do is go there, be a good coach,
be a leader of man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
And let the locker room be ran by the locker room.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know what I'm saying. Once you start being in
different draft picks, a different draft classes, and that that
leadership starts.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
To change in the locker room, I mean, maybe you got.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
To go to another team that already he has the leadership,
already got a good spot, and just needs a voice
of a head coach that can be able to set
up these pieces, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't think coach T's Jack. I think that for Pittsburgh,
they want championships. They want to win this eight and eight.
This little the defense isn't performing as well as it should.
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So with that being the case, if coach he was
the coacher but a lot of other teams and he
wasn't performing at a level, it would be able they
would have moved on quicker. But it being Pittsburgh and
then being kind of nervous and just liking status quote
and having coach T. That's a great coach as status
quote coach, he would be a great coach with any
other squad, you know what I'm saying. But just the
maybe it's time. You know what I'm saying. Maybe it's
(38:39):
okay that our time is not like Andy Reiding the Eagles.
I would go there. They great times, they won, they
did good. But it's like, maybe it's not the time
right now. You know what I'm saying. That could be
the same way.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Okay, I respect that. I may not agree, but I
respect that. Hey, your boys should do or he got
rookie other week after the game, Bro, I guess he
is the first rookie this year, your first rookie quarterback
to receive the honor.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
What Joe, what do you a from door? Against them? Brown?
I mean against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
All I know is, brother, the way it's supposed to
be like ten degrees feeling like negative four. We need
to do some of just the same stuff. I like
s your Door because he played in Colorado. He's a quarterback,
and when he was throwing the ball last week it
was terrible weather, he was spinning the rock like he's
able to throw in the elements, and I love that
(39:32):
for my quarterback. So I just wanted to don't turn
the ball over hand it off to Juggins.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You know what interception? Right now?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I know they're going to be trying to get some picks.
I know they're gonna trying to get some picks, and
it's gonna be cold as a muther, so good luck.
But I just think we got to run the ball
well and take them good. Take take our shot opportunities,
and don't turn the ball over to do what you've
been doing, sha door, don't do those spinouts, you know
what I'm saying. That's the only thing I do.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
What do you expect him to do that kind of
you know, hit here, and.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I expect him with the weather being like this, I
expect him. I just wanted him to go Probably we're
gonna go twenty. We're gonna go seven twenty, twenty, twenty
for thirty for two hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yards, two touchdowns. No, you getting numbers, We get numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I mean, isn't there right, zero I in ts, zero
I ins. And we've been we've been throwing We've been
throwing pitts, you know what I'm saying a little once
in a while. But I just think we got to
control the ball, just keep it. Nope, nope, nope, he's
gonna he's gonna he's gonna protect No no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Your hands said interception.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You said no, no, no, no, no, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Can't have it, can't.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Do it, man, Joe burrow Man, he had some you know,
he had he had some words. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Just you listen to her brother, You tell.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
God you I want to keep doing this. I have
to have fun doing it. Uh you know, I've been
through a lot and if it's not fun, then what
am I doing it for? A sole's mindset I'm trying
to bring to the table.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but seemed frustrated.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
There's just a lot of things going on right now,
a lot of things going on right now, all related personally,
all do both. Like you said, there's nothing. All we
can do is is focused week too. We can try
to try to win games. I don't think anybody's really
thinking about the playoffs right now.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That's a that's within reach but on our fingertips.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
So we just gotta keep doing what we're doing and
try to get better.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Joel right, I'm man, Yeah, what what do you take
from that? Joe?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
That man sound big sad debo?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I think? Is Joe undercome.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Gotta be they gave it. I know, I'm just saying,
did they get How big is the bag they gave?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Oh my goodness, they gave Joe Bro? He get about
fifty five a year.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Joe Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
It sounded like you want to have fun, and to
me it sounds like the fun thing. I mean, you
know what fun is. Winning is fun. Winning is fun.
You know, two seventy five you were in you know, Cleveland,
you weren't having that much fun. I think he wants
to have fun now. And you know, with that being said,
(42:36):
maybe he's revaluating his decision and thinking about it a
little more because you know, right now, like he said,
nobody's thinking about playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know how far they are out, you know what,
the need to happen. A lot of impossibilities, a lot
of possibilities. That's kind of impossible, but it's impossible because
it's a possibility. So what you so, what you're thinking?
What you're thinking He's saying, what do you.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Think he's I'm thinking he's saying he's just putting it
out there that he's not happy here and it could
be a possibility of maybe you know, somebody or I mean,
I'm pretty sure they're probably getting calls or some sort
of gauge, you know, interests of you know what it
is that they may or may not be willing to
(43:24):
take and receive too, maybe hand him to a competing
football So I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I'm just talking. No me, I'm just talking. I'm just
running my mind.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm just thinking it would never give him to They
would never give him to the Stillers.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
I said competitive football team. I didn't say like arrival.
I didn't say they would give him to the Stillers. No,
maybe they could, maybe somebody else could get him and
we could trade for him to get you know, I mean,
hope it ain't a poison pilling there like you know
(44:08):
with persons. I don't know, man, I'm just you just
throwing things out there. I'm just I'm just I'm just
putting it up in the air. You got to put
it in the atmosphere before anything can go around happen
possibilities in this.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I think Joe Burrow is mad and sad and just
pissed that their team isn't that good and at the
same time getting hit all the time. Upside the head
being out there doesn't help. Like when people are bringing
up like Andrew Luck being able.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
To retire a little early.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They say he got hit one hundred, he got sacked
one hundred and seventy three times, and Joe Burrow's been
sacked two hundred and like ten times. And then at
the same time, I mean Joe Burrow he got fire receivers.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
He doesn't have a line. Hey, I think maybe it's
up you can't That's what I was thinking. Dude, you
you lead there.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I know you still Joe, but no, no, for sure
over there you got three You know it's a three
piece you, me and them two go, it's a three
piece all or nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
See No they then you're gonna to You're gonna dis
remember somebody's whole squad. They literally be changing teams. But
I think for real real, he's just letting them know
he needs. What Joe Burrows was actually asking to be
expat Higgers to stay. He asks for Jamar Chase to stay.
So these dudes all have big contracts. What they do
need to do is for real, now, since they do
have that main the you need. They need defense obviously,
(45:30):
and they need offensive line. So I think hopefully if
they want to keep Joe Burrow in the draft. Only
thing you draft is how much money.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You say, how much money you got over there on
offense though you got you got room to pay.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
No, No, you're drafting. You got a draft, well, you
gotta draft. Well, you got draft well, draft and draft
only offensive line and only defense. And if you're go
into free agency only offensive line only defense. You need
to buffer and protect this man at all costs because.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
The end of the day, you can't.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
He's getting beat up and you can't have him. He's
been hurt, like it's all these injuries since two thousand.
You can't have him out there keep getting beat up
and you want him to be a franchise. So he's
telling him like, look all right, man, I'm not happy.
My head hurts, my leg hurts, my knees, everybody so
hurts my shoulder. You know what I'm saying, Like, give
me some protection or because at the end of the day, too,
(46:24):
those calls want to come. Joe burg can go to
a team with a line that don't have a quarterback,
that has a solid defense, and he'll come switch up
the situation for a lot of teams and they'll come,
drop the bag, get picks and everything.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So I think it's a little just him telling.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Them like, look, man, I am Joe Burrow and I
know my value. I keep getting beat up. I need
to try to stay health and he's been injured a lot.
So now he's looking at it like I'm it's doesn't
I'm not getting hit any less. I'm continuing to get hit.
I'm always hurt. Protect me or I shall bounce.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, just putting it out there,
letting them know, lett him know.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's temperature.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, you know, ms are you know it donun dropped
a little bit. It ain't.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It ain't as hot as it was we had won
that game. I might I might not be feeling this way,
you know, so I understand, But you know, to me,
I think it's just you know, putting the filler out there,
you know, seeing you know, seeing what the cat dragging.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know, you know, you say anything out there.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I mean you could have said that, you know, to
the you know by yourself, you ain't have to, you know,
let it out there and open.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
So you had to let it out there and open.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I ain't got no problem with it, you know, everybody
y'all know, you know, everybody know nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Joe ain't too happy over there. Now you don't want
Joe and happy, you.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Don't tight and sideline reporter removed from the team playing
from the team charter playing after sharing a story of
cam Ward from the flight.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Do you know what happened on that Joe? No, I
don't know what the story was. Yeah, I don't know
what the story is either.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Obviously he must have gave some insight intel that was
talked on the plane.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
That's what you need to do, is they guys that
you gotta shut your mouth.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, I don't think they should have the reporters and
everybody else on the same plane.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
That way, you don't run into that issue. Like, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
But he actually was asked about it, and you know
he said the same thing, like he don't he ain't
got no no issue with Like he didn't change what
he said. The reporter wanted to apologize for letting it out,
but I guess as cam was like, no, I don't.
I don't feel bad that it. You know about what
(48:44):
I said, I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I gotta figure out what did he say? Though?
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Do you say somebody he just said that.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Basically, he was saying that they won, but the play
wasn't good enough. You know, he tried to make it
seem like what a reporter, try to make it seem
like he wasn't gracious for the win or whatever. I mean,
if you can't be uh, you know, correctively criticism, criticize yourself,
Like what do you expect. I don't like, I said,
(49:14):
I don't see a I don't see an issue with it.
I think that's just you know, being accountable, having accountability.
I mean the reporter, maybe he shouldn't have let it out.
He shouldn't have been in a position to be able
to let it out. Put his put his butt on
a different plane, yeah, or flying commercial. Yeah he's a
(49:34):
red like yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, that's that's his job. He seems to me like,
y'all just want the man to be quiet.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I mean I could if it's I mean, yeah, I
don't know, get him on a different plane. They might
not be a reporter for you. Reporters know they know
what's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
You know, it was bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Might get me somewhere. He's not happy and they wont
let me report. Oh got him no, nah, he said, yeah,
and I still ain't happy. Now what you gotta apologize for? Real?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
You know what time it is. Come on, play a
fade presented by prize people. All right, Joe, you know
how I worked. I made my lineup of pics for
(50:29):
Sundays games. Brother, Either play my lineup or you faded,
and you tell me why. Look here, I got your dough.
I got your dough for more than eight yards Russian.
He gonna have to he's gonna have to use his feet. Man,
the weather gonna be tough, and every time he ain't
gonna be able to get it out there like you
(50:50):
want to. Plus, you know they number they number one?
What Joe and picks and picks? Okay, interception rate, Yes, sir,
I got Lamar.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I got Lamar for more.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Hey, he's gonna have a run longer than some thirteen
point five.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
I got him from more. He's getting a little healthier against.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know who, the worst worst defense in the NFL,
the worst in the rush got Bongos Bengals, Sorry, the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Okay, and now I also have I.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Know this is gonna surprise you, but I got I
got I got Drake May.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
I got him for lesson for why for why?
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Why?
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Why?
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Why Buffalo they doing that thing in the past, came Bro,
they don't even they don't even average giving up that much.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And it's gonna be a tough game. Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
They in Buffalo, like, come on.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
It's gonna it's probably gonna be snowing.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, okay, and listen, you don't even got to ask
me about that one.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yes, you know what time it is. It's more, it's
more for show. It's more for show. What you gonna do, Joe,
I'm gonna play depot. I'm gonna play it last.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Joe, go play.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
So make sure y'all download that after day and use
the code debot Joe to get fifty dollars lineup after
you play your first dollar line five dollars in lineup.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Let's get it, Debo. I like this one man. Look here, man,
tell your mama your popper. Everybody debot Joe fifty for
show after your first five dollars Joe.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yes, her, I want to tell you something, Joe, what's up?
My brother? I believe that I can fly, if I
could touch the sky. I think about it every night
and day.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You know, I spread my wings in a fly away.
I believe I can sew. Hey, I see me running
through that open door. Hm, I believe I can fly.
I can fly. I believe I can fly.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
He used to.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Joe yes game. So if you were to give sha
Door the perfect game stats, what would it look like?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
The perfect game stats? I would give Shador because honestly,
with this game, No, not this game. I said, perfect game,
what would that look like? I would love to see
it this game, but it's just look I would hope
he could do the perfect game. But honestly, this game.
And I gotta say for this game, this game, because
(53:49):
we were playing Chicago. It's a good team. I don't
want to have to put it on his hands to
make him have to beat him. But thrown for four
hundred yards like we can get some dump offs like downfield,
have a couple of balls to Judy to Tillman, But
mainly I need fanning.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
They run defense, Ain't that tough either?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Though I know they run game.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Ain't that tough? No, it ain't they run. They run defense.
Ain't that tough.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's why we're working with Juggins, Bro Junkins, Samson, and
then we're gonna work with Fanning. Dude, I thought he
was going through something last game, and he ain't come through.
I know, bro, he low, he love, but that's why
he can't do it two times in a row.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
So we got your door. This game is going to be.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Actually, I only want to throw the ball like twenty
five times.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I wanted to be twenty for twenty five.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
The five incompletes are mainly instead of like check down
or he had to throw them out of the bounds,
had to get the had to just you know, throw it.
I throw it away. Twenty to twenty five to fifty
to sixty two toughs, you know what I'm saying. Boom,
and then Jugkins is going to have two Russian touchdowns,
so we're gonna have around twenty eight points, you know
what I'm saying. And our defense is going.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
To how many times I mean, I mean Russians. You
got junk As.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I need him to have twenty twenty at least twenty
twenty and Sam Skin Samson can get five, Sam Sin.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Get five, you gotta have another five.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
I think you do is gonna run.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
His five and get his yard. You're gonna run five
and get about twenty five, you know, what I'm saying,
that's thirty.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
That's thirty totes, thirty totes, twenty five defense. Go do
what's your defense. Go do what they supposed to do, Miles.
Is what they do last time.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
I'm trying to figure that out. What they do last time,
Joe cd BO. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
You always be green. But look that's what they have.
One bad week and then they're gonna come right back
and show why they're the number one defense.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Miles Garrett is gonna get probably number one.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
They probably three Miles sold on me. Look just six
he went and got one. Now you got sold on man.
You got a dub Man.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
You can't be telling he's sold with a walking around
with a double sacks, so supposed to get six, you're wild.
What's the most you had in the game, d BO?
I think I said it was a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Uh, it might have been. I think it was three
and a half.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
You had ten tackles, three and a half sacks, a pick,
a PBu and two forced fumbles. I just said across
my timeline the other day, you was thinking, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Know what I'm saying. I had to make sure I
got over there to do.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
The over there in Hawaii real quick. Yeah, to bust
it out in one game. You know who.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
That game right there? A three three and a half
or will get you to get you across that water,
no question.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yo, we gotta, we gotta got a super chat Covenant
Life three nine seven just donated fifty. Thank you very mud.
She stayed there, She stayed there. She says hello to
you too, dropping in to say hello. Can't wait for
the game on Monday. I hope we can walk away
with the victory. Joe, I sent you you a clip
(57:01):
of my grandson to your Instagram in here. I'm here
in Saint Lucia, of course until the twenty seventh. Oo, man,
I wish we debo just got to stand up on
our side. Yeah, we just we gotta, we gotta stand
up for show.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
We got to, like.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Joe, check your Graham, gotta check my graham.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Check your grand for the clip of the grandson, Saint
Lucia come to life.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Thank you very much. Reappreciate you watching.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
We appreciate your donation, and like I said, we will
continue to pray for you that everything goes through clean
healthy slate. Have a great time out there in Saint Lucia.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Please, we want to thank all of you. Joe and I.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
We want to thank all you guys for joining us
on this episode.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
Of Debo and Joe.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Please make sure you'll hit the like and subscribe button
and we will be back here on Monday, because somebody's
playing Monday Night.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Let's go Debo.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Joe, or you mute it again? Joe.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
You're good, Joe? How did you mute yourself?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (58:21):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
Go ahead, Joe, we live Debo. I can't wait to
be back on Monday. You already know what time it is.
I will say on Monday, what's up?
Speaker 3 (58:30):
And were out?
Speaker 2 (58:31):
And we out
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