August 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Shannon Sharpe drops some knowledge on Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson by telling him about his perfect 100 rating on Madden 1999! PLUS Ocho gives all the details on how his inaugural Wide Receiver Camp that brought together prominent NFL wideouts, including: Ja'Marr Chase, Tyreek Hill, Tee Higgins and more!
0:00 - Unc was rated 100 in 1999?!
4:04 - Ocho’s NFL Wide Receiver Camp
18:08 - Top 10 trash talkers of all time
32:57 - Cris Carter had words for Ocho?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh, you gonna ask your questions. What's your highest ranking?
Oh Madden, what the highest you've been ranked?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The high has I been ranked?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I think, if I'm not mistaken, a ninety eight O one.
I think a ninety yeah, yeah, yeah, I was listen,
I was that boy back in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Now I was that. I was nice.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think you know it for me, and I'm uncle,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna really be honest with you.
I don't think people understand really how good I was
unless you are really a football person, because the antics and.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The fun and entertainment that I had.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It takes away from all the hard work I actually
put in to be able to pull something shit I
did off And I'm just being honest, And that next
for people, even that even even the most highest analysts
are those that have been watching the game for years.
They allow the antics and entertainment to get away from
actually how good.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, I mean that happens because they're like, what and
I like it? But I like it like that. I
enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I enjoyed it and now that's what I wanted to
remember for so.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, that's what happens. I mean, And they say, well,
he just talks. He's loud, he's braggadocious and all that.
But and so now when the NFL has started this
National tight Ends Day and the NFL started posting clips
and people like, hold on, okay, now see why uncle
was like that for real? But yo, see you was
a ninety eight. I was one of the few guys
(01:21):
that's ever been a hundo. Yeah but nine, Yeah, for sure,
I've been him.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Run tell that. Wait ahund I need me. I gave
me some shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
This set a hunding because they ain't been ahead the
gold the gold shoes.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
One hundred gotta be platinum. Goal is for ninety nine.
I need platinum shoes.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Basy, I got I gotta I gotta check guy, I
got I gotta vote. I gotta check the vote. I
never heard it nor.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Because normally, because normally during the game, I will red
shoes because I clown foods.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I did with for real, the old joke.
Let me tell you what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm gonna give it to you the first half because
then you're gonna be jealous that I didn't give you
any So I'm gonna give it to you the second half.
But all y'all gonna get it all y'all about to
get all this here, So don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Don't worry. I tell my shit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Don't tell them to shut up and stop talking to me,
because I'm about to start talking to you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm about to hit you up too. Oh yeah, you
get I got.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I gotta check that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could
ever get a Hundie. They never after ninety nine, they
cut it out. After ninety nine, they cut it out. No,
no more Hondys. You're the last hon after meat.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Theyn't be no more. Okay, I like that note to
nine Bady. It's all.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's up there right now. They're looking at it when
they got the ninety nine tidy. Like Gronk was ninety
nine for a couple of years. Kelsey has been ninety
nine for a couple of years. But the first guy
out there, you better stop playing with me. I'm too
big of a kitten.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Somebody got to send that to my phone, man, somebody
got to work.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hold On, that's like, that's like hold on, that's like
being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell
you along on the grocery store and starve. You work
at the A.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I worked at.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But you talking about ninety nine, ninety nine, I was
still I was still in high. So I don't I
gotta go back.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How long I've been kicking folks? When you was in
junior high, I was cooking them.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I used to go up.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I keep telling you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
People used to see me on the field with the
with the pains with a pot this man, what you
got that part? I say, I'm going to cook you fools.
That's why I got this pot out here on the field.
I'm cooking crams today. Yes it's a low country ball.
I got cramped. I got a sausage. I got corn
on the car like the potatoes. All you bums getting
it sound like? Yeah, I'm giving it to him. So
(04:03):
pull up a table, because I'm about to make a
miss all of you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh you. Let's jump right into it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Before we get into some topics, tell us about your
why that camp, because there's like the uh D Lineman
got a camp. The ideas have what they call tighty
in you and I think you started what you called
why Receive Wide Receiver work Workshop, Why out Workout camp
last week. The clip of you being emotional and grateful
to the guys that showed up in that case. In
that case, Chat hasn't seen it yet. We're gonna play
(04:28):
this clip for you. Take a look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Y'all know how much I love the game.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know how much I love y'all. Right throughout the
years you've I've tweeted by every last one of y'all,
so you already know how I feel about you. And
they brought the idea to me. I told the court
I thought some of y'all boys yesterday, and I was scared.
I was scared of to make that call because.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's what it's not.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Deserve deserve it, bro together, come together, Hey, it's a
lot of product.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You're going to receive a position.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Honestly, together, I thought some of the big boys and
just any of y'all. Y'all busy. I'm busy, you know,
you know how, So for you to show up I
mean the world to me. Like I don't cry normally,
and I really ain't really shaming you with it in
front of y'all. I swear to God, I appreciate you,
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swear to God, and I look forward to we do tomorrow,
We're gonna keep talking talk about the game of football.
I don't want to bring you to death, but we
won't want to get in the what you need to
work on and improved. You know, you can get back
to work and feel good about something new that you
got in your stole from somebody else, somebody else game,
you know, other than that, mat y'all get out this
(05:50):
ring man like like I seriously sloot y'all man.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Mm hmm he that that That was dope. That was
a good feeling, a good feeling. A lot of people
are probably watching, uh with with with not great understanding
about the love I have for the game, not just
the game in general, but the craft when it comes
to that artwork, when it comes to playing a position,
a receiver, and how much I embedded and love that artistry.
(06:18):
And for those fellas to show up on for the
for the for the big boys to actually show up
for me, it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Meant a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It meant a lot for one for one, For me
to be so far removed from the game and to
want to help those that are still playing, you know,
and finding tweaks and things that they can improve on
and add to their game. There's nothing that we have
as a collective group as receivers when all get get
together under one umbrella and talk about the game of football,
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talk about route running and and and anything that comes
along with that, ways to to to manipulate defenses, ways
to give illusions that should run a full speed. Then
when you really I mean when you when you're really
not just a little tricks in the trade of the
craw in itself.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the boys showed up. They showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Because I look at them as a fan. I don't
look at them as ocho that's already played. I look
at them in awe like I'm looking up to them,
and they tried.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
To get me to see fool you tripping. We look
up to.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You because we still studying your stuff from way back then.
But I don't view myself like that or in that light,
which is why the emotion and the tears came from.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They actually show they actually showed up. Yeah, T Higgins,
Jamal Chase call his son Jefredy. We talk about people
that are already established in the league, that have got
their big payday's, they ain't got they.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They don't have to come out here.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
They don't have to, but it's a testament forget them
coming for me, a testament where they are with their
game and wanting to improve and get better at their
craft and what they do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, you want to get better.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I mean if they have I guarantee you if they
have a convention, uh, and they invite the top one
hundred tech guys, guaranteed they gonna show up because Iron
Shop res iron. You know, we got to get out
of this illusion where I don't want to give away
no secrets. I don't want to give away no secrets,
and I'm trying to do this. I keep this till myself.
What good is all this knowledge? If you hoard it
somebody had to you. I don't care what any receiver
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tell you. He did not learn or forget the position.
He did not learn everything on his own. He got
it from somewhere. So and instead of you sharing it,
you want to heard it. Now, what if somebody would
have done that to you? What if somebody would have
hearded that information and teach you how to be in
and how to dip. Yeah, oh, or somebody teach you
(08:37):
how to snatch pool. So now you get the information.
But see that's how we will see a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Don't show.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We'll get up now, We'll use the ladder to get up,
and once we get up, we'll pull the ladder up
to make sure nobody else.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Get up there with yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir yes.
How many times have we seen that? We see it
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I ain't gonna get part political with you, but we
see a lot of that. A lot of people came
through immigration. Now they got over here, kick that ladder down,
daw you ain't getting up here. I'm here now, so
with damn you. And a lot of times athletes have
that same mentality. Somebody in part take and maybe it
wasn't publicly, maybe it was a private setting. Now, someone
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in part part in part gave you wisdom and knowledge
and understanding. You want to pretend like you got that
all on your own. What I like most, oh, because
a lot of times these guys forget that there was
somebody before them, and it seemed like if it didn't
happen in the Internet age, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh man, I don't know about that guy.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
What I got got one hundred and something touch one
hundred and some touchdown that guy have fifteen sixteen, seventeen
thousand yards. Oh you thought that you started playing wide
receiver like thirty years ago. I like, sometimes, sometimes not all.
There's no such thing as all of every Guys, forget
(10:01):
not taking women out of this, and you can talk
about the WNBA. We'll talk about that later day and time.
I'm just talking about men in professional sports. It's almost
like we want to pooh poop. The one thing that
I've never done is I've never forgot the guys that
laid the foundation, from the Mackies to the Dickers, to
the Ozsi's, to the winsloads of seconds to the Jackie
Smith guys like that, Raymond Chesters. I know the history
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of that position. I know the history of the tight
end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly,
greatly appreciative. But that was great. That was really great
to see. I'm glad you got an opportunity of that. Hopefully,
hopefully you can get sponsors like we see it tight
end you and it gets bigger and bigger and better
(10:44):
and better year after year.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So that kudos to you. Yeah, most definitely we had
taken time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Out of your busy schedule and say you know what, guys,
I want to bring you guys together and im partake
some of the wisdom that I've been given over the
course of the years. And maybe maybe only one to
two people got something out of what you said or
what someone else said. Yeah, but that was success because
that was information they wouldn't have gotten had they not
been there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And my favorite part of the two days that we
had together was sitting there talking obviously to Jerry, talking
all Elijah more kJ osboy or all them boys. But
the greater, the greatest conversation that I really enjoyed was me,
you know, obviously Jamar, Jamar, Chase, Jerry, Judy and court
(11:31):
and Courtland Sudden and we had a thirty minute discussion
I'm talking about I'm talk about a good thirty on
ways to beat Pat certain Jr.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Hey, we see so he's so he's so I swear
to God.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The first thing they all say, Judy, he's so long,
he's so patient. Chase say anything short, You're not You're
not You're not gonna be able to run it. And
the conversation about Pat is the testament to him to
how great he is and how good he is, and
of course I said what I could. We went back
and forth. It was a great dialogue on that. Then
they talked about the other dbs that are very, very difficult,
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not as long, but technically sound and savvy. They talked
about Denzel Award, how difficult Chase talking about how difficult
it is a great the Award. Yeah, when you're playing,
you got to be on your p's and q's. They
talked about Stinging. When you play Stingley, you got to
be on your p's and q's. Obviously the other great
there are other great defensive backs in the NFL. But
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the way those dudes praise pass Certain, Steeley and Denzel Award, man,
it was it was wonderful, wonderful thing to help Pat
who is his dead.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So his dad was a pro bowler, Yes, sir, so
he had great So the first thing I noticed about
pass Certain when he got to Alabama. I say this
for a freshman, this duty is technically sound, like he
should be in the league already. You look at him
and there's no wasted motion. There's there ain't nothing, there
ain't no you know, he tried a boom if you
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release inside boom, bam. I was like, damn he technically sound.
Damn ain't no wasteing motion. I mean he getting he
found and when he whene, when that backfoot.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Playing, he driving, yeah every time.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But as he talked about, we had him on on
Jody where after won the Defensive Player of the Year,
and we talked to him. He say, look, study, I'm
looking at formations, I'm looking at splits, I'm looking at
down in distance, I'm looking at area of the field.
I'm also looking at okay, the person nel. All that.
That's why you need That's why you need to be
smart as a football player, because you got to be
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able to process that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He who hesitates in sports is beat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage, you
throw people open. And these guys in this league are
good enough to throw a receiver open open.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, So it ain't gonna you can't.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Waste motion because the really good receivers are not going
to waste motion. Hey all that dropping your arms? Hey
you telling the dB I'm about to start all that,
I'm about to break.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You're telling it the ball going the other way, and
you bout.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You buy what you ain't doude. I'm about to run
this out break on it. Yeah, because that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So it was. It was great to see you in
that environment. O yo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I know you love you love everything about coaching except
coaching itself. Can you damn sure ain't gonna put those
you to put that kind of hours in? And that's
what times I want you to come out there and
talk to him during the summer. You ain't you gonna
be the coach?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, but listen, I can't coach an instructuring environment. But
when it comes to talking the game of actually route running,
getting open, understanding what's across from you and how to
beat it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Now that I can do now that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But you know what I noticed, o't yo? What about
the run? What about the run blocking? I ain't seen
you do none of that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh hey, I'm glad you said. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now, if you look, if you look at Mustache statistically,
this is one of the things that really aren't aren't
shown statistically.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm the greatest run blocker in the history of the NFL.
Oh lord, that is not true. I'm just telling you.
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Now, when you think about blocking, everyone thinks about a
physical specimen. When it comes to playing receiver, sometimes the indicator.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Is just being who you are in general. Yeah and
all I got to do.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sometimes I ain't got a touch, no, but I just
run off and I take three people with me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I think the thing is for the You look
at the West Coast. You look at West Coast offenses.
Those guys got a block or you're not getting the ball.
You look at the guy like a Hines Ward who
made his name in the league catching the thousand passes.
He was known as a blocker. He was like physical,
I mean behines. He took pridey, like when y'all try
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to tear my head off when I got the ball
in my arms. Now I get an opportunity to peel
your cap. I'm peeling it all the way back to
the way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Whoa wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute, a minute,
wait a minute. Now you said hines Wold was physical.
Now that's not to take nothing away from me. Now
I was a very physical block they gave. It's not
my game, but it was part I had it in
my repertoire.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
When yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a
tool that you didn't use So you know how people
got a toolbox and they got all the tools in there,
and they only use the flathead of the Phillips head screwdriver.
They used the vice grips, they used the mugget ridge
and they used it j just rig and that's it.
But they got one hundred apparatuses in there. But at
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the end of the day, it's all about getting the
job done, whether you whether you got if you got
forced you pushed that corner and then come down on
because they.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Don't let you crack no more old joke.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's hard, the harder the heart of the block because
you know you used to be able to push that,
to push the corner and then see that safety creeping
down there and the blind side block what they call
it blind side block, the physic man, the.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Swivel brot to do you just stand in the way
for you arms.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh you got to move because the pilot get you.
Oh yeah, the pil You gotta worry about that polotcho.
So you got to keep your feet moving because you
know we.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All have been rolled up on. It ain't no damn fun.
Oh Joe put put.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Pro Football Addict named the top ten trash talkers in
NFL history. This this lit this list is bulgeized because
yours truly isn't on it. Number one, Chad O. Josenko
number two, Smitty Steve Smith Senior, three, Richard Sherman number four,
Me number five, d On number six, Philip Rivers number seven,
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t O number eight, Sugs number nine, Ray Lewis number ten,
Courtland Sudden. I feel like I should be number one, but.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh hey, hey, hey, hey, I know you feel you
should be number one.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I should Hey, I know you feel should be number one.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But you have to understand, you have to understand the
art of trash talking.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's me. It represents me.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
If the aut of trash talking was in the dictionary,
there would be a picture of me. You were great
at trash talking. You were great at it. You were
just let me, let me, let me stay with me. Now,
you were great at it. But you have to understand.
I took it to levels never seen or done before. Okay,
there's a certain entertainment value to the trash talk that
I provided. I was talking trash right, let me stay
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with me, real quick, just real quick, on a losing team,
and I can feel a stadium with my trash talk. Alone.
So the seats we sold out because they come to
see what I'm gonna do based off what I said.
You see what I'm saying, You see what remind you? Yeah,
come on, come on, I stay with me. Now this
is different. So when I play away, they come and
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to see what he's going to do next based off
what he said. Now, the pressure was on me to
be able to make sure I gave people they money's
worth after I did all the talking. That's pressure in itself.
So yeah, I'm not taking enough away from you. Were
great at what you did, but it just I just
had a different aspect and different innerertainment value to my.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Trash What clip did they show all the time? Guard?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh Joe, you do realize I had a coach, a
coach resigned, and a player got suspended because I was
trashed talking, right, I got you, I.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Got you, I got yeah. But but you've got to understand.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Listen, I lost money behind my entertainment and trash talking.
I send gifts to my opponents and secondaries to elevate
the level of trash talk. The bravado in which I
brought to the game is a little different now. You
did you you Hey, listen, you were phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You have to remember I did it in a losing effort,
in just to make it fun for.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Those who watch without getting into it. Cause you know, Oh, Joe,
you realized like you don't talk as much when you
miked up for the simple fact that people gonna think, oh,
he don't do that much talking. He's just doing this
because he miked up.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
See the difference is right. Notice I never wore a mouthpiece.
I didn't wear a mouthpiece because I need to be
able to converse with you throughout the entirety.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, And the problem is, this is the thing I'm
not talking.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think you talked. Steve Smith talked trash to get
the person angry. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Richard Sherman talked trash to get the person angry. Cam
Newton I saw his little clip earlier about him being
the best trash talker and says he gets people upset.
I'm not trying to get you upset. I don't want
you mad, I want you happy. I just need to
see if you can engage with me and converse with
me in the middle of a game.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I got you mentally. You already beat.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't care what I don't care what you get.
You get mad, you get happy at the end of
the day.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right bro, right, tity?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What's up? What Titus? Where you've been at? What what
they do?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Twin You're supposed to be holding it down? So who
did you off for work? That's what I need to do?
Who did you off for work?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Oh, tity, look at my dog man? Dogs killing man?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Where your brother? Say? I got another brother? Here? Where
you got another one? Yeah? Not not his side? Oh no,
they eat too much. Oh but where are you at? Uh? Man,
you ain't you ain't you ain't even let me see him?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Hold on fans wait, yeah, but god, yeah, he that big?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Where do you see him? Shall bring Thanos? Oh but
I know that, I know that joke of big. How
much you worried about one sixty that takes pounds? That
ain't tell everybody my name is Thanos? Well he he
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a't gonna grow no old. Yeah, he maxed out on you.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's what you gotta give. You gotta give him a
better name than that, like pee wee.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Nah, he don't want to be no p he say
our big, he's our stuff. Right here, you say tired
to get a bone. I take it. I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
What happened to Teddy Bear? Teddy Bear on the couch?
How they get along?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Man, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be harassing Teddy Bear
like something crazy. He had. The other one I had,
Baby Teddy Bear was a nuisance with a minute. I mean,
the other one couldn't get no peace. Now all he
doing is repairing the favor.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, Okay, I got, I got, I got. I like that.
I like that. But how much I don't meant to
be in your pockets? But that was there? No focus, huh,
I ain't my don't mean to be in your pocket.
I'm just curious how much that was there?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know, you little little something. You know, I can't
tell you where I got it from. You know it'd
been a tariff on it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I understand, I know that I noticed.
You ain't really want to answer that question. I'm still
trying to. I just want to know the numbers on him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's it, little something, little something, you know, little you know,
little treat myself.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I ain't bought myself nothing, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, I still got the same, just ain't range the
same BMW. So you know, you know what, let me
get myself something. I ain't bought a watch, I ain't
brought no clothing, and so you know that was that
was my that was my birthday gift. Then I got.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, but listen, listen, listen, I listen.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I told you, I told you I got a dude
out of Liberty City, right, you gotta do it in
Liberty City, get you everything exotic from animals, the dogs,
the pets, to I could have got you that. I
could have got you that for two hundred. I'm just saying,
what's that a tea cup? Right, teacup, pump pump.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now, he regular sized. He's not gonna I mean, he's
not gonna get much bigger than that. Tea cups. I
mean tea cups.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
They be like like three pounds. Have a lot of help. Yeah,
he was four pounds, though, four pounds. He'll probably he'll
probably talk out at about six.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Okay, okay, that's cool because I got my dog. My
dog in Liberty City is named Lonzo.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You didn't get you a puppy. You need to get
you something to keep you grounded, you know much.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
All my frontis you're white here. I don't want no
dogs running around here. I ain't got no time that
everything everything in here is white.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know you can you know you can train an animal, right, Yeah,
I ain't got that kind of time. I ain't got
that kind of time, baby, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So the chop to top ten trash talkers. Oh joege
number one, Smitty number two, Sharon three, myself is for
time is five? Philip Rivers. I'll be thinking about it.
A quarterback have made the list.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Hey he be He don't curse, but he funny. He'd
be time dogg it.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Hey with that one when you threw that touchdown against
Jacksonville and he screamed at the whole guy's here.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Hey, hey, hey, real Taylor, that's okay. I will scream
in your ear. No you won't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
T o uh Sogs Sugar and Courtland Fittiger. That's that's
a nice little list. It's a nice list, is it is?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean sure, I'm sure some people will look at
the list. They will disagree with the numeracle.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Oh oh, I got one John Randall. You gotta have
Johnny on here. I gotta have Johnny on here. He
came out, we came out the same, the same draft
in nineteen ninety. Johnny was a people don't notice, but
Johnny was a free agent. Johnny got drafted as a
two hundred thirty five defense thirty. He was two thirty
at the defensive lineman. Yeah, and turned himself into what
one of the great dts that had a relentless motor, Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sir, yeah DDT. Even nice Jay j was nice bro.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Apparently Cam called us out to think he's a better
trash talker. Let's listen to what Cam had to say.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
But when it comes to putting these downs and verbs,
you know what I'm saying, putting it together, it comes down.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And just being witty. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I'm trying to tell your piggy sometimes you got
to punch your toes east and west to let everybody
know who's the actual bast And I know, disrespect to
unc Uncle Shay and uh Chad Chadwick Johnson huh.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But they were hated me because I'm gonna get personal.
You feel me saying, oh yeah, we got to do that.
I don't fight fair, I don't talk fair, but it's
some truth behind everything that I say.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that's where I'm willing to go.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Man, I say something, try to make your kids hate me.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You see you see that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
See he's he's talking trash, trying to get under someone's skin.
That's not the type of trash talk I did. I
talked trash in an entertainment value way for fun, to
have fun, to let you know we gonna compete. See
that's just talking.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I went it. I took it the extra mile.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do people not realize the week before a game, I
FedEx the secondaries gies as a small way to taunt
in a certain way, nothing malicious, but to have fun.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That was a token of your appreciation, exactly to let
you know.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I'm thinking to you, D'Angelo. Oh, I send them boys
in Atlanta, send them gifts. You know, obviously we know
what I did for the Steelers. I had a had
a I had a sponsorship with degree the odorant. I
send the Ravens Secondary. I send them degree degree degree
the odorant, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
As a gift because y'all stink.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Thinking when I'm done with you, like that's all that's
all fun and love, and you know before it gainst
something that's it's his type of trash talking. What I'm
what I'm doing is completely two different side sides of
the spectrum. But I respect what he did, but he
is nothing, not even close. We're not in the same
stratosphere when it comes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To talking trash. Because for me, like I said, I
went to an agbc U.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Come on that, you go to an I don't know
who's out there listening that has been to an HBCU.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But if you kin Jon, you ain't gonna survive. You
ain't gonna survive.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean me, I'm hey, y'all, y'all, y'all heard me
going back and forth. I'm talking about we just if
this ain't no you know A. I don't know who
I'm gonna talk trash.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
To in the game.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It all depends on who starts talking trash back or
who started first. I'm gonna get it started. You know,
I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna see I will
keep going until I Hey, I'm gonna turn the door
handle to see which one's open, cause a lot of
them be locked. Don't yoke, they ain't gonna say nothing
to you.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I would keep ay.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Everybody don't lock their doors at night. You know what
I'm saying, and somebody run down on you because you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Used to be In the.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Seventies and earliest, the seventies and eighty, you can sleep
with your door open, let alone locked. But now people
get crazy after dark. You gotta keep your hand on
your thing. So with that being said, everybody locking the doors,
but not everybody. Somebody gonna forget because they thought somebody
else locked the door. M m oh, that's when I
turned the handling and be gone on in. Yeah, becam, Look,
(28:51):
I know you good. I know you good. And putting
things together, you know adverbs and predicants and pronuns and adjectives.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh no, but when it comes when it come, ay,
when it comes to lips barring, Yeah, I'm talking about
just a just go yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Talk toy monk Hey and Cam. That's another thing you
worried about. Who's a better trash talker? Yeah, need to
be practicing Madden. You need to be practicing Madden, because
I'm still waiting on that snow all that talking you're doing.
And matter of fact, I got the new Madden already.
I got Madden twenty six, so.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You by the time. So when he get it. You're
gonna be proficient at it.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is I
am the best gamer. I'm the best Madden player in
the world. I have an advantage over everyone else because
I'm a part of the production of the game in itself.
So the fact that people think they can beat me,
it's almost laughable. Like I tell you, Cam Cam and Dads, Brian,
I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play
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video games as a way of life. It's how I
pay my bills. That's why I don't understand when they
come at me talk about beating me in a video game.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
What you talk about? My life's getting cut off if
I'm playing for bills.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You think you think I'm gonna miss my light bill
and my mortgage because you think you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Beat me and Matt Man, Well, my light's getting cut off.
I ain't got you know, I ain't got no got,
no censer, heating and cooler. Because if I gotta play
video games to pay bills, no, I mean, the only
thing I probably could. I probably can't even play Oh Joe,
I probably. I mean I think I played like I
(30:30):
used to play, Miss pac Man, play Josh or something
like that. But I was, I mean, we ain't have
no video I mean we could. We could go to
the arcades, we get a couple of quarters, or we
go my sister wed go wash clothes and they would
have some video games or pool table or.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Something like that. But I was.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No Now shooting pool now, oh you know how to shoot?
I beat Effory Rares, beat Minnesota fast. They called me slim,
Willie Mascone, Steve Misser right, Hey, I don't know about that,
but Bill Vivian, Uh, you got to show me the house.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got to show me mess in the house with you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You got to show me because pool is what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Huh, the pool is what I do. They listen. You
know what they used to call me.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I used to play at the pool hall right on
fifty fourth Street, right off right off of ten twelfth Avenue.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The used they used to call me sugar cane. Come
my pool stick. My pool stick looked like sugar cane.
It was green.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, if you think you could beat me, but you
can't beat Slim. You can't beat Slim.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Don't do it to yourself. Please, you can't beat That's
what I beat. Fats I beat Minnesota fats. Come on, man,
ask about me out here in the city.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
When it comes to hey, listen, when it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Comes to the pool, pool table, when it comes to
ping pong, I beat the That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
When it comes to handball. Shot of you in table tennis.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
B But listen, boy boy, I told you they called
me sugar cane. I had I had, I had a
green pool stick.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
They called me to catch you one day.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm gonna catch you one day somewhere, and they're gonna
have a pool table in there. They got a table,
they have a table tennis and thing in there.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh wait, you ain't got to catch me nowhere, because
I come with you at we can go to a
pool hall because we got plenty of them. I bet
you got your own stick, my stick right here.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh Joe, I beat you with a broomstick. I don't
even know they have a pool for you to beat you.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You ain't no, you ain't no real You ain't no
real pool player. Hey, hey, I'm a shack man. They
called me. When they called me. When somebody at the
pool hall that think they're.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Good, I'll let you win a couple of games. Do that,
you bet the money, then I come in there.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, come on, man, tighten up, oh Joe, while we'll wait.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
There's some people that have some words for you. For
Chris Carter had some words for o Yo last week.
He said there were points, oh yep. He said there
were points in Chad's career that you had to go
out there and tell him what to do because he
couldn't get over to save his life. He couldn't get
over against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns
one time, and it's eleven years. I think I scored
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double digit touchdowns six times. Scored in the football. Is
the number one player at the receiver? No, I was
not a burner. I ran four to six four six five,
but can do it every single day, can do it
for four quarters and consistent at it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
O Cho, you know what that gets? Child? Please? I
don't know what I don't. I'm just trying to take
out before I have a question, before you even go
what the hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay?
(33:55):
You scored double dinit touchdowns? Okay, cool, you want to
cook it right? Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Have you had a conversation? Have you have you have
you had a conversation with CC.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I don't ain't no, I don't need to have
a question, so right, I heard Also he said, well,
he only had double digit touchdowns one season, so he's
not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But does that mean Julio Jones is not a Hall
of Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double d
touchdowns one season?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You have, you have dumb you had dumbn That sounds yeah.
Sometimes I listen to things and and and everyone's situation
is different, you know, everyone's situation different. I mean, so
stuff like that, I paid no mind because everything is
predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based
on other people's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Situations were different. You know.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Obviously where I was, I did the best I could,
but the cards I was dealt and I did one
hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what
you did. I don't care not about your numbers. It
don't make it, don't make me none. Why is my
name even being brought up?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I don't know why it was brought up. I don't cause,
like I said on yo me, I don't really listen
to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,
you know, to try to make our podcast better than
what it is, and I got so I'm trying to
get guessed and I'm going with the book. It's like, Okay,
who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.
(35:20):
So I don't really have time to pay attention. But
it just kept popping up, not only on it kept
popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on
the internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I said, did O Choe say something about him? Or
what fired? For one? You know, I don't talk about people. Yeah,
we definitely don't talk about people that do what we do.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Never and you know I don't talk about nobody, you know.
But yes, congratulations and everything he said, Happy, happy for
you Chris Card and your double digit touchdowns and your
Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I wish you content to continue success and whatever it
is you got going on. Baby, I know what we're
doing over here.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Though I know, I know, I know, I know where
I'm going. I'm going. Maybe he wanted you to respond,
and I did respond. I just said I love him.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think
maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way.
And forth you got the row I got first of all.
You got kids, I got kids, I got grand kids.
I'm not finna go look what we did we did.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You
can't go back and score no more touchdowns. I can't
scoring touchdowns. We're right here.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Oh man, yes, you're doing that. No great job, o. Man.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm still scoring touchdowns in life.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
He said we played. I don't care about that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'm scoring double double digit touchdowns right now. Come on, now,
you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where I'm
coming from.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I hear what you said. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught
up and talk about what we used to do.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
What you're doing. Talk to me, what you're doing now?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
We were all great at once upon a time in
our own right, Okay, I you know you did what
you did.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I think CC played sixteen seasons? Wait, how many? How
many played sixteen? How many I played? I don't know. Hell,
you played. I think you played level of twelve? Did
you level? How many a y'all played? Eleven? He played sixteen?
How many? How many yalls you got?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Look here, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just trying.
I'm trying to get it better.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Understand how many yarlls you got?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I don't ask ask how many yards does the CC have?
But okay, the chance said CC snap because he was
pissed at Ojo for saying that he could beat Travis
in a one on matchup ten out of ten times.
Why is he worry about, bro, We'd just be joking
(38:07):
when we say stuff. Man, it ain't that sad.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do
the same thing with everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He just you do you just say as So?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I said, Ojo, can you thought challenge everybody that come
on here?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oo you everybody that come on here can get that work?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
He hit me and Travis hu.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Kick below fourteen thousand yards? He had thirteen thousand, eight
hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
So he played fifteen season sixteen, I think sixteen, and
he got well thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thousand yards almost fourteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Okay, So he plays fifteen sixteen, he only got three
thousand more yards than me and played five more season
that had eleven.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I guess yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why. Okay,
cool anyway, But like I was saying, anybody that come
on this show, uh, I had the utmost confidence in
my ability and being able to do any and everything.
That's something that a lot of pople in this world lack.
Even if you feel you can't do it, you have
to fear you can because everything starts up here in
the mind. So everybody that comes up here regards to
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what's sports, they player, whatever it is that they do,
I feel I can beat them. And if you feel
if you feel you can beat me doing at what
you do best, whatever it may be, you're gonna have
to show me.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass
up right now about what he did.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Huh he's sixty. What that means? He talking like he
still got it?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Get out here, get on the field, line it up.
I'll lock your ass up too.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
We got a pose, that's what we got. So we
breathe it, we walk in we get up out of bed.
We had our right mind, blood running warm about veins.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
On. See, this is the thing about it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Just had, is I'm not just talking.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I'm not just saying what it should looked like.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Uncle.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'm out there with McLees and my shoes on, out
there running full speed.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I still got it. You hit me. So it's one thing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know,
with the exit and those, and you have a receiver
coach that actually never played, never really played the game.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
They just know the game based on paper and what
it should look like. Yeah, Like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Not there running them rouse with you. I'm not only
just I'm not telling you what it should look like.
I can actually display.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It and show you. Boy, this is this is picasso. Yeah,
I'll say this. Love.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I've known CC a long time. His brother and I
used to hang at the Super Bowls and stuff. I
would just say this, CC, No, when the man joke it,
he wasn't that serious.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Now, CC, I love you, baby, But putting them clease on,
put them, please on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown.
I put these two hands in your chest. Why you
won't catch shit
Oh, you gonna ask your questions. What's your highest ranking?
Oh Madden, what the highest you've been ranked?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The high has I been ranked?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I think, if I'm not mistaken, a ninety eight O one.
I think a ninety yeah, yeah, yeah, I was listen,
I was that boy back in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Now I was that. I was nice.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think you know it for me, and I'm uncle,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna really be honest with you.
I don't think people understand really how good I was
unless you are really a football person, because the antics and.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The fun and entertainment that I had.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It takes away from all the hard work I actually
put in to be able to pull something shit I
did off And I'm just being honest, And that next
for people, even that even even the most highest analysts
are those that have been watching the game for years.
They allow the antics and entertainment to get away from
actually how good.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, I mean that happens because they're like, what and
I like it? But I like it like that. I
enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I enjoyed it and now that's what I wanted to
remember for so.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, that's what happens. I mean, And they say, well,
he just talks. He's loud, he's braggadocious and all that.
But and so now when the NFL has started this
National tight Ends Day and the NFL started posting clips
and people like, hold on, okay, now see why uncle
was like that for real? But yo, see you was
a ninety eight. I was one of the few guys
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that's ever been a hundo. Yeah but nine, Yeah, for sure,
I've been him.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Run tell that. Wait ahund I need me. I gave
me some shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
This set a hunding because they ain't been ahead the
gold the gold shoes.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
One hundred gotta be platinum. Goal is for ninety nine.
I need platinum shoes.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Basy, I got I gotta I gotta check guy, I
got I gotta vote. I gotta check the vote. I
never heard it nor.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Because normally, because normally during the game, I will red
shoes because I clown foods.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I did with for real, the old joke.
Let me tell you what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm gonna give it to you the first half because
then you're gonna be jealous that I didn't give you
any So I'm gonna give it to you the second half.
But all y'all gonna get it all y'all about to
get all this here, So don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Don't worry. I tell my shit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Don't tell them to shut up and stop talking to me,
because I'm about to start talking to you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm about to hit you up too. Oh yeah, you
get I got.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I gotta check that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could
ever get a Hundie. They never after ninety nine, they
cut it out. After ninety nine, they cut it out. No,
no more Hondys. You're the last hon after meat.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Theyn't be no more. Okay, I like that note to
nine Bady. It's all.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's up there right now. They're looking at it when
they got the ninety nine tidy. Like Gronk was ninety
nine for a couple of years. Kelsey has been ninety
nine for a couple of years. But the first guy
out there, you better stop playing with me. I'm too
big of a kitten.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Somebody got to send that to my phone, man, somebody
got to work.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hold On, that's like, that's like hold on, that's like
being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell
you along on the grocery store and starve. You work
at the A.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I worked at.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But you talking about ninety nine, ninety nine, I was
still I was still in high. So I don't I
gotta go back.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How long I've been kicking folks? When you was in
junior high, I was cooking them.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I used to go up.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I keep telling you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
People used to see me on the field with the
with the pains with a pot this man, what you
got that part? I say, I'm going to cook you fools.
That's why I got this pot out here on the field.
I'm cooking crams today. Yes it's a low country ball.
I got cramped. I got a sausage. I got corn
on the car like the potatoes. All you bums getting
it sound like? Yeah, I'm giving it to him. So
(04:03):
pull up a table, because I'm about to make a
miss all of you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh you. Let's jump right into it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Before we get into some topics, tell us about your
why that camp, because there's like the uh D Lineman
got a camp. The ideas have what they call tighty
in you and I think you started what you called
why Receive Wide Receiver work Workshop, Why out Workout camp
last week. The clip of you being emotional and grateful
to the guys that showed up in that case. In
that case, Chat hasn't seen it yet. We're gonna play
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this clip for you. Take a look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Y'all know how much I love the game.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know how much I love y'all. Right throughout the
years you've I've tweeted by every last one of y'all,
so you already know how I feel about you. And
they brought the idea to me. I told the court
I thought some of y'all boys yesterday, and I was scared.
I was scared of to make that call because.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's what it's not.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Deserve deserve it, bro together, come together, Hey, it's a
lot of product.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You're going to receive a position.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Honestly, together, I thought some of the big boys and
just any of y'all. Y'all busy. I'm busy, you know,
you know how, So for you to show up I
mean the world to me. Like I don't cry normally,
and I really ain't really shaming you with it in
front of y'all. I swear to God, I appreciate you,
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swear to God, and I look forward to we do tomorrow,
We're gonna keep talking talk about the game of football.
I don't want to bring you to death, but we
won't want to get in the what you need to
work on and improved. You know, you can get back
to work and feel good about something new that you
got in your stole from somebody else, somebody else game,
you know, other than that, mat y'all get out this
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ring man like like I seriously sloot y'all man.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Mm hmm he that that That was dope. That was
a good feeling, a good feeling. A lot of people
are probably watching, uh with with with not great understanding
about the love I have for the game, not just
the game in general, but the craft when it comes
to that artwork, when it comes to playing a position,
a receiver, and how much I embedded and love that artistry.
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And for those fellas to show up on for the
for the for the big boys to actually show up
for me, it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Meant a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It meant a lot for one for one, For me
to be so far removed from the game and to
want to help those that are still playing, you know,
and finding tweaks and things that they can improve on
and add to their game. There's nothing that we have
as a collective group as receivers when all get get
together under one umbrella and talk about the game of football,
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talk about route running and and and anything that comes
along with that, ways to to to manipulate defenses, ways
to give illusions that should run a full speed. Then
when you really I mean when you when you're really
not just a little tricks in the trade of the
craw in itself.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And the boys showed up. They showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Because I look at them as a fan. I don't
look at them as ocho that's already played. I look
at them in awe like I'm looking up to them,
and they tried.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
To get me to see fool you tripping. We look
up to.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You because we still studying your stuff from way back then.
But I don't view myself like that or in that light,
which is why the emotion and the tears came from.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They actually show they actually showed up. Yeah, T Higgins,
Jamal Chase call his son Jefredy. We talk about people
that are already established in the league, that have got
their big payday's, they ain't got they.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They don't have to come out here.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
They don't have to, but it's a testament forget them
coming for me, a testament where they are with their
game and wanting to improve and get better at their
craft and what they do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, you want to get better.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I mean if they have I guarantee you if they
have a convention, uh, and they invite the top one
hundred tech guys, guaranteed they gonna show up because Iron
Shop res iron. You know, we got to get out
of this illusion where I don't want to give away
no secrets. I don't want to give away no secrets,
and I'm trying to do this. I keep this till myself.
What good is all this knowledge? If you hoard it
somebody had to you. I don't care what any receiver
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tell you. He did not learn or forget the position.
He did not learn everything on his own. He got
it from somewhere. So and instead of you sharing it,
you want to heard it. Now, what if somebody would
have done that to you? What if somebody would have
hearded that information and teach you how to be in
and how to dip. Yeah, oh, or somebody teach you
(08:37):
how to snatch pool. So now you get the information.
But see that's how we will see a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Don't show.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We'll get up now, We'll use the ladder to get up,
and once we get up, we'll pull the ladder up
to make sure nobody else.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Get up there with yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir yes.
How many times have we seen that? We see it
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I ain't gonna get part political with you, but we
see a lot of that. A lot of people came
through immigration. Now they got over here, kick that ladder down,
daw you ain't getting up here. I'm here now, so
with damn you. And a lot of times athletes have
that same mentality. Somebody in part take and maybe it
wasn't publicly, maybe it was a private setting. Now, someone
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in part part in part gave you wisdom and knowledge
and understanding. You want to pretend like you got that
all on your own. What I like most, oh, because
a lot of times these guys forget that there was
somebody before them, and it seemed like if it didn't
happen in the Internet age, it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh man, I don't know about that guy.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
What I got got one hundred and something touch one
hundred and some touchdown that guy have fifteen sixteen, seventeen
thousand yards. Oh you thought that you started playing wide
receiver like thirty years ago. I like, sometimes, sometimes not all.
There's no such thing as all of every Guys, forget
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not taking women out of this, and you can talk
about the WNBA. We'll talk about that later day and time.
I'm just talking about men in professional sports. It's almost
like we want to pooh poop. The one thing that
I've never done is I've never forgot the guys that
laid the foundation, from the Mackies to the Dickers, to
the Ozsi's, to the winsloads of seconds to the Jackie
Smith guys like that, Raymond Chesters. I know the history
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of that position. I know the history of the tight
end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly,
greatly appreciative. But that was great. That was really great
to see. I'm glad you got an opportunity of that. Hopefully,
hopefully you can get sponsors like we see it tight
end you and it gets bigger and bigger and better
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and better year after year.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So that kudos to you. Yeah, most definitely we had
taken time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Out of your busy schedule and say you know what, guys,
I want to bring you guys together and im partake
some of the wisdom that I've been given over the
course of the years. And maybe maybe only one to
two people got something out of what you said or
what someone else said. Yeah, but that was success because
that was information they wouldn't have gotten had they not
been there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, it was dope.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And my favorite part of the two days that we
had together was sitting there talking obviously to Jerry, talking
all Elijah more kJ osboy or all them boys. But
the greater, the greatest conversation that I really enjoyed was me,
you know, obviously Jamar, Jamar, Chase, Jerry, Judy and court
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and Courtland Sudden and we had a thirty minute discussion
I'm talking about I'm talk about a good thirty on
ways to beat Pat certain Jr.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Hey, we see so he's so he's so I swear
to God.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The first thing they all say, Judy, he's so long,
he's so patient. Chase say anything short, You're not You're
not You're not gonna be able to run it. And
the conversation about Pat is the testament to him to
how great he is and how good he is, and
of course I said what I could. We went back
and forth. It was a great dialogue on that. Then
they talked about the other dbs that are very, very difficult,
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not as long, but technically sound and savvy. They talked
about Denzel Award, how difficult Chase talking about how difficult
it is a great the Award. Yeah, when you're playing,
you got to be on your p's and q's. They
talked about Stinging. When you play Stingley, you got to
be on your p's and q's. Obviously the other great
there are other great defensive backs in the NFL. But
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the way those dudes praise pass Certain, Steeley and Denzel Award, man,
it was it was wonderful, wonderful thing to help Pat
who is his dead.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So his dad was a pro bowler, Yes, sir, so
he had great So the first thing I noticed about
pass Certain when he got to Alabama. I say this
for a freshman, this duty is technically sound, like he
should be in the league already. You look at him
and there's no wasted motion. There's there ain't nothing, there
ain't no you know, he tried a boom if you
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release inside boom, bam. I was like, damn he technically sound.
Damn ain't no wasteing motion. I mean he getting he
found and when he whene, when that backfoot.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Playing, he driving, yeah every time.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But as he talked about, we had him on on
Jody where after won the Defensive Player of the Year,
and we talked to him. He say, look, study, I'm
looking at formations, I'm looking at splits, I'm looking at
down in distance, I'm looking at area of the field.
I'm also looking at okay, the person nel. All that.
That's why you need That's why you need to be
smart as a football player, because you got to be
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able to process that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He who hesitates in sports is beat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage, you
throw people open. And these guys in this league are
good enough to throw a receiver open open.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, So it ain't gonna you can't.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Waste motion because the really good receivers are not going
to waste motion. Hey all that dropping your arms? Hey
you telling the dB I'm about to start all that,
I'm about to break.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You're telling it the ball going the other way, and
you bout.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You buy what you ain't doude. I'm about to run
this out break on it. Yeah, because that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So it was. It was great to see you in
that environment. O yo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I know you love you love everything about coaching except
coaching itself. Can you damn sure ain't gonna put those
you to put that kind of hours in? And that's
what times I want you to come out there and
talk to him during the summer. You ain't you gonna
be the coach?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, but listen, I can't coach an instructuring environment. But
when it comes to talking the game of actually route running,
getting open, understanding what's across from you and how to
beat it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Now that I can do now that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But you know what I noticed, o't yo? What about
the run? What about the run blocking? I ain't seen
you do none of that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh hey, I'm glad you said. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now, if you look, if you look at Mustache statistically,
this is one of the things that really aren't aren't
shown statistically.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm the greatest run blocker in the history of the NFL.
Oh lord, that is not true. I'm just telling you.
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Now, when you think about blocking, everyone thinks about a
physical specimen. When it comes to playing receiver, sometimes the indicator.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Is just being who you are in general. Yeah and
all I got to do.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sometimes I ain't got a touch, no, but I just
run off and I take three people with me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I think the thing is for the You look
at the West Coast. You look at West Coast offenses.
Those guys got a block or you're not getting the ball.
You look at the guy like a Hines Ward who
made his name in the league catching the thousand passes.
He was known as a blocker. He was like physical,
I mean behines. He took pridey, like when y'all try
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to tear my head off when I got the ball
in my arms. Now I get an opportunity to peel
your cap. I'm peeling it all the way back to
the way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Whoa wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute, a minute,
wait a minute. Now you said hines Wold was physical.
Now that's not to take nothing away from me. Now
I was a very physical block they gave. It's not
my game, but it was part I had it in
my repertoire.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
When yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a
tool that you didn't use So you know how people
got a toolbox and they got all the tools in there,
and they only use the flathead of the Phillips head screwdriver.
They used the vice grips, they used the mugget ridge
and they used it j just rig and that's it.
But they got one hundred apparatuses in there. But at
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the end of the day, it's all about getting the
job done, whether you whether you got if you got
forced you pushed that corner and then come down on
because they.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Don't let you crack no more old joke.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's hard, the harder the heart of the block because
you know you used to be able to push that,
to push the corner and then see that safety creeping
down there and the blind side block what they call
it blind side block, the physic man, the.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Swivel brot to do you just stand in the way
for you arms.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh you got to move because the pilot get you.
Oh yeah, the pil You gotta worry about that polotcho.
So you got to keep your feet moving because you
know we.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All have been rolled up on. It ain't no damn fun.
Oh Joe put put.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Pro Football Addict named the top ten trash talkers in
NFL history. This this lit this list is bulgeized because
yours truly isn't on it. Number one, Chad O. Josenko
number two, Smitty Steve Smith Senior, three, Richard Sherman number four,
Me number five, d On number six, Philip Rivers number seven,
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t O number eight, Sugs number nine, Ray Lewis number ten,
Courtland Sudden. I feel like I should be number one, but.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh hey, hey, hey, hey, I know you feel you
should be number one.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I should Hey, I know you feel should be number one.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But you have to understand, you have to understand the
art of trash talking.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's me. It represents me.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
If the aut of trash talking was in the dictionary,
there would be a picture of me. You were great
at trash talking. You were great at it. You were
just let me, let me, let me stay with me. Now,
you were great at it. But you have to understand.
I took it to levels never seen or done before. Okay,
there's a certain entertainment value to the trash talk that
I provided. I was talking trash right, let me stay
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with me, real quick, just real quick, on a losing team,
and I can feel a stadium with my trash talk. Alone.
So the seats we sold out because they come to
see what I'm gonna do based off what I said.
You see what I'm saying, You see what remind you? Yeah,
come on, come on, I stay with me. Now this
is different. So when I play away, they come and
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to see what he's going to do next based off
what he said. Now, the pressure was on me to
be able to make sure I gave people they money's
worth after I did all the talking. That's pressure in itself.
So yeah, I'm not taking enough away from you. Were
great at what you did, but it just I just
had a different aspect and different innerertainment value to my.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Trash What clip did they show all the time? Guard?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh Joe, you do realize I had a coach, a
coach resigned, and a player got suspended because I was
trashed talking, right, I got you, I.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Got you, I got yeah. But but you've got to understand.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Listen, I lost money behind my entertainment and trash talking.
I send gifts to my opponents and secondaries to elevate
the level of trash talk. The bravado in which I
brought to the game is a little different now. You
did you you Hey, listen, you were phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You have to remember I did it in a losing effort,
in just to make it fun for.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Those who watch without getting into it. Cause you know, Oh, Joe,
you realized like you don't talk as much when you
miked up for the simple fact that people gonna think, oh,
he don't do that much talking. He's just doing this
because he miked up.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
See the difference is right. Notice I never wore a mouthpiece.
I didn't wear a mouthpiece because I need to be
able to converse with you throughout the entirety.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, And the problem is, this is the thing I'm
not talking.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think you talked. Steve Smith talked trash to get
the person angry. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Richard Sherman talked trash to get the person angry. Cam
Newton I saw his little clip earlier about him being
the best trash talker and says he gets people upset.
I'm not trying to get you upset. I don't want
you mad, I want you happy. I just need to
see if you can engage with me and converse with
me in the middle of a game.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I got you mentally. You already beat.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't care what I don't care what you get.
You get mad, you get happy at the end of
the day.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right bro, right, tity?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What's up? What Titus? Where you've been at? What what
they do?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Twin You're supposed to be holding it down? So who
did you off for work? That's what I need to do?
Who did you off for work?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Oh, tity, look at my dog man? Dogs killing man?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Where your brother? Say? I got another brother? Here? Where
you got another one? Yeah? Not not his side? Oh no,
they eat too much. Oh but where are you at? Uh? Man,
you ain't you ain't you ain't even let me see him?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Hold on fans wait, yeah, but god, yeah, he that big?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Where do you see him? Shall bring Thanos? Oh but
I know that, I know that joke of big. How
much you worried about one sixty that takes pounds? That
ain't tell everybody my name is Thanos? Well he he
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a't gonna grow no old. Yeah, he maxed out on you.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That's what you gotta give. You gotta give him a
better name than that, like pee wee.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Nah, he don't want to be no p he say
our big, he's our stuff. Right here, you say tired
to get a bone. I take it. I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
What happened to Teddy Bear? Teddy Bear on the couch?
How they get along?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Man, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be harassing Teddy Bear
like something crazy. He had. The other one I had,
Baby Teddy Bear was a nuisance with a minute. I mean,
the other one couldn't get no peace. Now all he
doing is repairing the favor.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, Okay, I got, I got, I got. I like that.
I like that. But how much I don't meant to
be in your pockets? But that was there? No focus, huh,
I ain't my don't mean to be in your pocket.
I'm just curious how much that was there?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know, you little little something. You know, I can't
tell you where I got it from. You know it'd
been a tariff on it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, I understand, I know that I noticed.
You ain't really want to answer that question. I'm still
trying to. I just want to know the numbers on him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's it, little something, little something, you know, little you know,
little treat myself.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I ain't bought myself nothing, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, I still got the same, just ain't range the
same BMW. So you know, you know what, let me
get myself something. I ain't bought a watch, I ain't
brought no clothing, and so you know that was that
was my that was my birthday gift. Then I got.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, but listen, listen, listen, I listen.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I told you, I told you I got a dude
out of Liberty City, right, you gotta do it in
Liberty City, get you everything exotic from animals, the dogs,
the pets, to I could have got you that. I
could have got you that for two hundred. I'm just saying,
what's that a tea cup? Right, teacup, pump pump.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now, he regular sized. He's not gonna I mean, he's
not gonna get much bigger than that. Tea cups. I
mean tea cups.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
They be like like three pounds. Have a lot of help. Yeah,
he was four pounds, though, four pounds. He'll probably he'll
probably talk out at about six.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Okay, okay, that's cool because I got my dog. My
dog in Liberty City is named Lonzo.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You didn't get you a puppy. You need to get
you something to keep you grounded, you know much.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
All my frontis you're white here. I don't want no
dogs running around here. I ain't got no time that
everything everything in here is white.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know you can you know you can train an animal, right, Yeah,
I ain't got that kind of time. I ain't got
that kind of time, baby, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So the chop to top ten trash talkers. Oh joege
number one, Smitty number two, Sharon three, myself is for
time is five? Philip Rivers. I'll be thinking about it.
A quarterback have made the list.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Hey he be He don't curse, but he funny. He'd
be time dogg it.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Hey with that one when you threw that touchdown against
Jacksonville and he screamed at the whole guy's here.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Hey, hey, hey, real Taylor, that's okay. I will scream
in your ear. No you won't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
T o uh Sogs Sugar and Courtland Fittiger. That's that's
a nice little list. It's a nice list, is it is?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean sure, I'm sure some people will look at
the list. They will disagree with the numeracle.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Oh oh, I got one John Randall. You gotta have
Johnny on here. I gotta have Johnny on here. He
came out, we came out the same, the same draft
in nineteen ninety. Johnny was a people don't notice, but
Johnny was a free agent. Johnny got drafted as a
two hundred thirty five defense thirty. He was two thirty
at the defensive lineman. Yeah, and turned himself into what
one of the great dts that had a relentless motor, Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sir, yeah DDT. Even nice Jay j was nice bro.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Apparently Cam called us out to think he's a better
trash talker. Let's listen to what Cam had to say.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
But when it comes to putting these downs and verbs,
you know what I'm saying, putting it together, it comes down.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And just being witty. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I'm trying to tell your piggy sometimes you got
to punch your toes east and west to let everybody
know who's the actual bast And I know, disrespect to
unc Uncle Shay and uh Chad Chadwick Johnson huh.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But they were hated me because I'm gonna get personal.
You feel me saying, oh yeah, we got to do that.
I don't fight fair, I don't talk fair, but it's
some truth behind everything that I say.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that's where I'm willing to go.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Man, I say something, try to make your kids hate me.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You see you see that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
See he's he's talking trash, trying to get under someone's skin.
That's not the type of trash talk I did. I
talked trash in an entertainment value way for fun, to
have fun, to let you know we gonna compete. See
that's just talking.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I went it. I took it the extra mile.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do people not realize the week before a game, I
FedEx the secondaries gies as a small way to taunt
in a certain way, nothing malicious, but to have fun.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That was a token of your appreciation, exactly to let
you know.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I'm thinking to you, D'Angelo. Oh, I send them boys
in Atlanta, send them gifts. You know, obviously we know
what I did for the Steelers. I had a had
a I had a sponsorship with degree the odorant. I
send the Ravens Secondary. I send them degree degree degree
the odorant, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
As a gift because y'all stink.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Thinking when I'm done with you, like that's all that's
all fun and love, and you know before it gainst
something that's it's his type of trash talking. What I'm
what I'm doing is completely two different side sides of
the spectrum. But I respect what he did, but he
is nothing, not even close. We're not in the same
stratosphere when it comes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To talking trash. Because for me, like I said, I
went to an agbc U.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Come on that, you go to an I don't know
who's out there listening that has been to an HBCU.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But if you kin Jon, you ain't gonna survive. You
ain't gonna survive.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean me, I'm hey, y'all, y'all, y'all heard me
going back and forth. I'm talking about we just if
this ain't no you know A. I don't know who
I'm gonna talk trash.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
To in the game.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It all depends on who starts talking trash back or
who started first. I'm gonna get it started. You know,
I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna see I will
keep going until I Hey, I'm gonna turn the door
handle to see which one's open, cause a lot of
them be locked. Don't yoke, they ain't gonna say nothing
to you.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I would keep ay.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Everybody don't lock their doors at night. You know what
I'm saying, and somebody run down on you because you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Used to be In the.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Seventies and earliest, the seventies and eighty, you can sleep
with your door open, let alone locked. But now people
get crazy after dark. You gotta keep your hand on
your thing. So with that being said, everybody locking the doors,
but not everybody. Somebody gonna forget because they thought somebody
else locked the door. M m oh, that's when I
turned the handling and be gone on in. Yeah, becam, Look,
(28:51):
I know you good. I know you good. And putting
things together, you know adverbs and predicants and pronuns and adjectives.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh no, but when it comes when it come, ay,
when it comes to lips barring, Yeah, I'm talking about
just a just go yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Talk toy monk Hey and Cam. That's another thing you
worried about. Who's a better trash talker? Yeah, need to
be practicing Madden. You need to be practicing Madden, because
I'm still waiting on that snow all that talking you're doing.
And matter of fact, I got the new Madden already.
I got Madden twenty six, so.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You by the time. So when he get it. You're
gonna be proficient at it.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is I
am the best gamer. I'm the best Madden player in
the world. I have an advantage over everyone else because
I'm a part of the production of the game in itself.
So the fact that people think they can beat me,
it's almost laughable. Like I tell you, Cam Cam and Dads, Brian,
I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play
(29:54):
video games as a way of life. It's how I
pay my bills. That's why I don't understand when they
come at me talk about beating me in a video game.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
What you talk about? My life's getting cut off if
I'm playing for bills.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You think you think I'm gonna miss my light bill
and my mortgage because you think you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Beat me and Matt Man, Well, my light's getting cut off.
I ain't got you know, I ain't got no got,
no censer, heating and cooler. Because if I gotta play
video games to pay bills, no, I mean, the only
thing I probably could. I probably can't even play Oh Joe,
I probably. I mean I think I played like I
(30:30):
used to play, Miss pac Man, play Josh or something
like that. But I was, I mean, we ain't have
no video I mean we could. We could go to
the arcades, we get a couple of quarters, or we
go my sister wed go wash clothes and they would
have some video games or pool table or.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Something like that. But I was.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No Now shooting pool now, oh you know how to shoot?
I beat Effory Rares, beat Minnesota fast. They called me slim,
Willie Mascone, Steve Misser right, Hey, I don't know about that,
but Bill Vivian, Uh, you got to show me the house.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got to show me mess in the house with you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You got to show me because pool is what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Huh, the pool is what I do. They listen. You
know what they used to call me.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I used to play at the pool hall right on
fifty fourth Street, right off right off of ten twelfth Avenue.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The used they used to call me sugar cane. Come
my pool stick. My pool stick looked like sugar cane.
It was green.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, if you think you could beat me, but you
can't beat Slim. You can't beat Slim.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Don't do it to yourself. Please, you can't beat That's
what I beat. Fats I beat Minnesota fats. Come on, man,
ask about me out here in the city.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
When it comes to hey, listen, when it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Comes to the pool, pool table, when it comes to
ping pong, I beat the That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
When it comes to handball. Shot of you in table tennis.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
B But listen, boy boy, I told you they called
me sugar cane. I had I had, I had a
green pool stick.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
They called me to catch you one day.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm gonna catch you one day somewhere, and they're gonna
have a pool table in there. They got a table,
they have a table tennis and thing in there.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh wait, you ain't got to catch me nowhere, because
I come with you at we can go to a
pool hall because we got plenty of them. I bet
you got your own stick, my stick right here.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh Joe, I beat you with a broomstick. I don't
even know they have a pool for you to beat you.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You ain't no, you ain't no real You ain't no
real pool player. Hey, hey, I'm a shack man. They
called me. When they called me. When somebody at the
pool hall that think they're.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Good, I'll let you win a couple of games. Do that,
you bet the money, then I come in there.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, come on, man, tighten up, oh Joe, while we'll wait.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
There's some people that have some words for you. For
Chris Carter had some words for o Yo last week.
He said there were points, oh yep. He said there
were points in Chad's career that you had to go
out there and tell him what to do because he
couldn't get over to save his life. He couldn't get
over against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns
one time, and it's eleven years. I think I scored
(33:19):
double digit touchdowns six times. Scored in the football. Is
the number one player at the receiver? No, I was
not a burner. I ran four to six four six five,
but can do it every single day, can do it
for four quarters and consistent at it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
O Cho, you know what that gets? Child? Please? I
don't know what I don't. I'm just trying to take
out before I have a question, before you even go
what the hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay?
(33:55):
You scored double dinit touchdowns? Okay, cool, you want to
cook it right? Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Have you had a conversation? Have you have you have
you had a conversation with CC.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I don't ain't no, I don't need to have
a question, so right, I heard Also he said, well,
he only had double digit touchdowns one season, so he's
not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But does that mean Julio Jones is not a Hall
of Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double d
touchdowns one season?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You have, you have dumb you had dumbn That sounds yeah.
Sometimes I listen to things and and and everyone's situation
is different, you know, everyone's situation different. I mean, so
stuff like that, I paid no mind because everything is
predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based
on other people's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Situations were different. You know.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Obviously where I was, I did the best I could,
but the cards I was dealt and I did one
hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what
you did. I don't care not about your numbers. It
don't make it, don't make me none. Why is my
name even being brought up?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I don't know why it was brought up. I don't cause,
like I said on yo me, I don't really listen
to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,
you know, to try to make our podcast better than
what it is, and I got so I'm trying to
get guessed and I'm going with the book. It's like, Okay,
who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.
(35:20):
So I don't really have time to pay attention. But
it just kept popping up, not only on it kept
popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on
the internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I said, did O Choe say something about him? Or
what fired? For one? You know, I don't talk about people. Yeah,
we definitely don't talk about people that do what we do.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Never and you know I don't talk about nobody, you know.
But yes, congratulations and everything he said, Happy, happy for
you Chris Card and your double digit touchdowns and your
Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I wish you content to continue success and whatever it
is you got going on. Baby, I know what we're
doing over here.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Though I know, I know, I know, I know where
I'm going. I'm going. Maybe he wanted you to respond,
and I did respond. I just said I love him.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think
maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way.
And forth you got the row I got first of all.
You got kids, I got kids, I got grand kids.
I'm not finna go look what we did we did.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You
can't go back and score no more touchdowns. I can't
scoring touchdowns. We're right here.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Oh man, yes, you're doing that. No great job, o. Man.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm still scoring touchdowns in life.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
He said we played. I don't care about that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'm scoring double double digit touchdowns right now. Come on, now,
you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where I'm
coming from.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I hear what you said. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught
up and talk about what we used to do.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
What you're doing. Talk to me, what you're doing now?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
We were all great at once upon a time in
our own right, Okay, I you know you did what
you did.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I think CC played sixteen seasons? Wait, how many? How
many played sixteen? How many I played? I don't know. Hell,
you played. I think you played level of twelve? Did
you level? How many a y'all played? Eleven? He played sixteen?
How many? How many yalls you got?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Look here, I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just trying.
I'm trying to get it better.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Understand how many yarlls you got?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I don't ask ask how many yards does the CC have?
But okay, the chance said CC snap because he was
pissed at Ojo for saying that he could beat Travis
in a one on matchup ten out of ten times.
Why is he worry about, bro, We'd just be joking
(38:07):
when we say stuff. Man, it ain't that sad.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do
the same thing with everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He just you do you just say as So?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I said, Ojo, can you thought challenge everybody that come
on here?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oo you everybody that come on here can get that work?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
He hit me and Travis hu.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Kick below fourteen thousand yards? He had thirteen thousand, eight
hundred and ninety nine yards.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
So he played fifteen season sixteen, I think sixteen, and
he got well thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thousand yards almost fourteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Okay, So he plays fifteen sixteen, he only got three
thousand more yards than me and played five more season
that had eleven.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I guess yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why. Okay,
cool anyway, But like I was saying, anybody that come
on this show, uh, I had the utmost confidence in
my ability and being able to do any and everything.
That's something that a lot of pople in this world lack.
Even if you feel you can't do it, you have
to fear you can because everything starts up here in
the mind. So everybody that comes up here regards to
(39:09):
what's sports, they player, whatever it is that they do,
I feel I can beat them. And if you feel
if you feel you can beat me doing at what
you do best, whatever it may be, you're gonna have
to show me.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You're gonna have to show me.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass
up right now about what he did.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Huh he's sixty. What that means? He talking like he
still got it?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Get out here, get on the field, line it up.
I'll lock your ass up too.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
We got a pose, that's what we got. So we
breathe it, we walk in we get up out of bed.
We had our right mind, blood running warm about veins.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
On. See, this is the thing about it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Just had, is I'm not just talking.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I'm not just saying what it should looked like.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Uncle.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'm out there with McLees and my shoes on, out
there running full speed.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I still got it. You hit me. So it's one thing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know,
with the exit and those, and you have a receiver
coach that actually never played, never really played the game.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
They just know the game based on paper and what
it should look like. Yeah, Like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Not there running them rouse with you. I'm not only
just I'm not telling you what it should look like.
I can actually display.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It and show you. Boy, this is this is picasso. Yeah,
I'll say this. Love.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I've known CC a long time. His brother and I
used to hang at the Super Bowls and stuff. I
would just say this, CC, No, when the man joke it,
he wasn't that serious.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Now, CC, I love you, baby, But putting them clease on,
put them, please on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown.
I put these two hands in your chest. Why you
won't catch shit
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