Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson dive into the hottest NFL stories making headlines! The duo reacts to Darius Slay naming A.J. Brown the best wide receiver in the league, the viral report of Christian Wilkins’ “playful kissing” incident with an unnamed Raiders teammate, and the Washington Commanders’ contract standoff with star WR Terry McLaurin.
0:00 - AJ Brown Best WR in the league?
21:45 - Christian Wilkins "Playful" Kissing
35:29 - Terry McLaurin Contract standstill
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A twenty year age gap.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
So if I'm if I'm fifty seven, Terry's got to
be seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So he came out, so he had to came out
if he didn't red shirt that. They wasn't red shirt
like that back then. So he came out at twenty
one twenty two in nineteen seventy and it's what nineteen,
it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now that's fifty five. That's fifty five years.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So he got to be he's gotta be seventy seven,
maybe seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let me you know what, let me google this, let
me see how I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But I think it's hard for me to believe he's
anything other than that O Joe.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, because like I said, it's a jem Bradshaw.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He's seventy six bren in nineteen forty eight, he'll be
seventy seven September second.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I'm right on it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, you on it. You was a mad you're good
with numbers on you.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hey, Like I said, said, I don't think they read
shirt a whole lot back then, because you know, Colin
is trying to get your answer out of them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Uh, they weren't trying to play for an extra year.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But I think the thing is is that if you
look at those old old guys, you play football, you
keep your mind shut, you go home.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, all that other stuff it annoys them.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You just said something earlier when we were talking about
the Super Bowl tickets and about adapting. Yeah, I think
some of the old players from that era, back in
those times, they had a way of doing things. But now, yeah, listen,
we were in the air. We've moved on and advance
in certain areas, especially the game of football. Everybody doesn't
act that way. Everybody's not a robot, and they're approached
to the game and how they play or see it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So need to adapt as well, which many of them haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
No, haven't, No, because I think the greatest key is survival.
Survival is adaptability. And because the players were that way,
the coaches with that that way, honest year was that way,
and so they don't see this like ro and when Terry,
Terry won four Super Bowls in six.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Years or.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And so he's like, this method is tried and true.
The less distractions you present for the team, the better
off you're gonna be. All this talking and all. But
but oh, that's that's how they do it. Because look,
some people can you know, can party and can hang out,
come in at two or three in the morning, get
(02:30):
two or three out of sleep and function just fine. Fine,
that wasn't what I could do, right, I need to
be sleep by ten ten thirty. I mean, it is
what it is. And some guys can hang out and
drink and come in. And you thought they got to
bed at seven thirty and they didn't get to and
they might've not got to bed this seven thirty that morning.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, and that's that's the big boys.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but that's but who those Aaron said, And we're
just taking him at his word. If Terry got to
know him on a deep, deeper level, gave him a chance,
who knows, they might hit it off. He might actually
like me, because I do think error of a deep thinker.
(03:17):
I think sometimes he does overthink things. But hey, man,
the old man, oh Joe, you know how it is
man them old When the old people get set, they
sitting there way though, ya ain't.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, they're not changing that, they're not evolving. They think
everything works based on how they had success. Well it
worked for me, it should work for you, So you
should be doing it this specific way. Yep, they're not
evolving nothing, They're not good with technology.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Nope, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It's hard when you only looking through your lens.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
See, Terry only sees things through his lens. And so
it's tough.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's tough o' shoe when you criticized somebody and all
of a sudden they come play for the organization that
you've played for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is
that Terry is not really around. He's not like rested
Soul Franco used to be around all the time. Mel
Blood is around all the time. Terry Terry works Sunday.
Terry is not around. And unless Fox have the Super Bowl,
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he's not gonna be around. So and like I said,
I I've been around Terry, you know, worked at that,
worked at Fox for years and and and and and
and met Terry.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He's a he's a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Country he's a country guy that I think what he's
having now he used to have cattle. I think he
got horses now.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And you know, he gonna tell it like it is
no matter who it is too.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Huh, Hey, you're gonna you're gonna tell you just like
Alum said that our word, you're gonna gettee you raw pause, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah he is. And so you know it's family.
Like I said, I know in the beginning. But if
I'm not mistaken, I think Terry has I think he
raises quarter horses.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I know one point in time he had cattle. He
had beef cattle. Uh, he was in the cattle business.
I don't know if he still has it. He had,
you know, big rank, you know he had you know
probably I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well you have a you have a rode quarter horse before?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nah man, we had a pony growing up. We had
a pony named Ringo. Uh Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I had a cousin had a horse named Lady who
is an apple looser, you know, white with the black
spots on him.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But nah, nah, you.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Know I ride horses. You know I'm not Dan dv
there man.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I ride horses consistently when I when I have time. Obviously,
god damn quarter horse man.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They ride. They ride like real You can feel every
goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's like move nothing, man, They look at it. Look
now he looking to run, don't Joe?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Or he looking for you to ride? If you want
something to ride, or you want something to ride to
sell the ride or or the work. You need to
get a saddle horse. You you didn't get a horse.
That's that's specific. What are the fair bread mean to do?
Breads meant to run?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Run?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Running is fine, and just the ride is rough. Yes,
I can't remember Filipino. I can't remember the name of
the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic.
They're not that big, but it feels like you're riding
on clowns. They gonna speed. It feel like, you know,
it's so smooth and it's so easy to catch a rhythm.
Them goddamn quarter horses. Man, you every guy, Damn even
(06:39):
if you try, you.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Know, I've been riding for years now, you try to
go where it's still rough.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, I can't remember the kind of horses they have
in the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Starts with a pee Philip something.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Might have been a Filipino.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, listen, now, I was just like, you know, just
all just looking at the hor the muscular structure, and
you looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds, that
ankle bonus the size of a human.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And that's why they have so much, so many problems.
A horse.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You look, you look at a horse, an animal that's
a thousand pounds and the ankles are not much bigger
than a human.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's why they break so easy.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what you know. That's why, that's why you have
the problem that you have. And you know a lot
of times what they do when you're breaking you you know,
you put him down because you're asking him to try
to put that weight, to redistribute that weight. It's sad,
that's what it is. But uh now, but I look,
I wish you know Terry and and and and Aaron
can get somewhere and and and the conversation. We never
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hear about it. We never hear about it because I
don't think we need to hear about it. I don't
think we need to know about it. But I think,
you know, there's some things that you know, Terry would
probably want to share with Aaron, and Aaron would want
to share with Terry, and they could, they could move
the ball forward. But that's something that we shouldn't We
don't have to know.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm sure listen, I'm sure Aaron's gonna find a
way to get it, to have a conversation with him,
ask for his number, or Terry going to find a
way to reach out to him, just because you're planning
from an organization. I didn't mean what I said like that.
But they're gonna talk. And you know, Aaron Rodgers, he
shares everything. Right, here's everything. So at some point during
the season, it's going to come out that we had
(08:23):
a conversation. If he's not well, Terry's still gonna let
his ass have it on TV for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And also, Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh. I think Terry
lives in Oklahoma near the Texas Board or something like that.
So he's not like one of these his great players
for team players that live in the city, which they
played a lot of time. You know, players that were great,
they still live there because you know, I can cash
in you know, autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements
(08:52):
and things of that nature the team, you know, team activities,
stuff like that. They can take advantage of that. But
Terry Terry left. I don't think Terry. Terry only lived
in Pittsburgh probably during the season and once the season
was over. Terry right, Darius Slay says A J. Brown
is the best receiver in the NFL. He went on
Richard Sherman's podcast to explain why. Let's take a listen
(09:14):
to what he had to say, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Everybody on that listen from top four. It's mostly schemed
open for me. This is a dB.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I've don't seen Chase line up in the back I
see justin line up in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I've seen Tyrey be getting a three point.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Says Bot, the damn tackle guard and be motioned across that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All I see is Aed doing is line up at X.
See about me.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
If you want to see by me, I'm over here.
You know where I'm Matt. I'm not finishing on his backfield.
I'm not motion out of that and getting it, getting
isolated on the line back or none of that. I'm
coming to see your best dude to make your best
dude look like that's your worst dude. He don't run
from no smoke. So people having him at five, and
then people want to talk.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
About the quarterback play.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
All these guys got like real deal, like professional, like
pro pole type of quarterbacks. They always say hurts this
and hurts that out of all of them when have
come down in his passing, but like I say, Hurts
though the best DP ball and guess what, A J
Brown most likely the best.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
At catching that D ball. I like that. I like
what he said.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I like what he said, but I disagree with him
in which part talk to me, let me let you
go first.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Chase, ain't no scheme guy, no, justin Jefferson, Ain't no
scheme guy, Tyreek, Ain't no scheme guy guy. Absolutely not,
because their guy, because their ocs are creative bingo.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I'm glad you said it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It ain't my fault that that AJ doesn't have a
creative o' c.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
But he don't.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You don't. You don't get to win the Triple Crown
and be a scheme. You don't have eighteen hundred receiving
yards in scheme.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And when you that guy, you're that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah? Yeah. I disagree.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And I'm not saying that a J isn't isn't isn't
a good great receiver, however you want to, however you
want to categorize it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
But I disagree with Slay on that part.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That Chase and and and and and and and and
and Jetta and and Rieke they're not.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I disagree as well well.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But Darius has to understand is when you have those
players that are in your top five at the receiver position,
A J. Brown is in a position where they have
so many other weapons where you don't have to be
creative over there because you have a skilled.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Player in a J. Brown. That is no different than
having a Marvin Harrison. Chat. Listen to me closely.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm not saying a J. Brown is Marvin Harrison. When
Marvin Harrison lined up on what side.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He was gonna be on the right, He's on the right.
He ain't going the well.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
A J.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Brown just happened to have that same skill set, that
same dog in him and that DNA D d N
A N where he knows he can line up, he
can get out. I call it getting out the mud.
You call the play the officer cord. They don't got
to worry about you. I just know jaylen Hurst could
be blindfolded, call and play slant route, curl out, whatever
it may be, and he knows exactly where a J.
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Brown will be at and he can get it out
the mud. When it comes to Justin Jefferson uh, Jamar
Chase and some of these other receivers. Sometimes you have
to get creative in order to get them the ball.
Why because they're gonna roll covers to him every time
if you keep him in this out every time. They
really can't do that over there in Philly because you
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got that gangster in the back in the backfield where
you got to drop that fucking safety down in the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Box, right mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But justin Jefferson, you can line him up on this
on on on the left side of the right side
and say we need to get open the rest of
the game.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You can do that like that too.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My job, my job as the O c OHO is
to not let your job be easy, because if I
just line him up there, I'll make you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Job easy easy. Roll the coverage, find out where he is,
and just roll to him.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's it, period.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna make you find my guy.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But there are guys you can scheme and you still
can't get them open. Chase, chase him, jettle him.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's why on.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Most everybody's list, when you see receivers come out, they're
one two. Here's one two.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And even though Arek had a bad year and look
and I'm not saying because I like aj is a big,
physical receiver. Uh, he's gonna catch the ball in traffic.
He's tremendous run after the catch is he can catch
the deep ball. And sometimes he gets frustrated because he's
not involved as soon as he thinks he should be,
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or as much as he should be, and he has
lapses sometimes. But he's phenomenal. But that's why I disagree
with Slack. I get what he's saying. He's like, look,
the guy just lies up on one side, and he said, Okay,
come see me.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But see Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
With that being said, even if Chase is not lying
up on the same side, he still saying, you still
got to come see me. Whether I'm in the slot,
whether I'm on the right, whether I'm on the left,
you still got to deal with me.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah. And there are a few players like that too long.
There are a few players.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
If we were just playing basic football and saying, okay,
we're breaking the huddle I formation and you just line
up on the same side every single time and the
defense knows exactly what you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
There are a.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Few players, maybe maybe eight or seven of them, that
can say, you know what, I'm leaving you on that
island and you're just gonna have to get open, right.
That can actually do it, and it makes the Office
of Coordinating job easy. When you had those type of players.
It ain't that many of them at receiver everyone else.
You have to get then splits, you have to put
them in motion, you have to do all these things
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to get them open. Everybody can't get out there and
just get out, get out, get it out the muscle.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
It ain't right. It's very, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It is, But y'all doing them a disservice because if
everybody knows where he is. Look here, they ran stunts
with lt They ran stunts with Reggie Bruce. That don't
mean they couldn't do it. But I'm not trying to
just say, let's try to make their job easier. So,
like I said, I get what Slave's trying to say.
(15:23):
He's like, look, just imagine had if they moved him around.
Just imagine, you know, instead of just lining up as
the ex he lined up, you know, they put him
in the slot and they did different things with him.
They stacked him, so forth and so on. Okay, fine,
but Jamar Chase is not a scheme receiver. Need this Jetta,
(15:44):
need this Tyrek. Now, I don't know the other other
guys that were in the top I think they had AJ,
so I don't know if it was Pookah or if
it was Nico cop Yeah, CD lamb. Well CD is
mainly plays in the slot. He can't go outside, but
he's mainly.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
St mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
The funny thing about those top five you just named
is you could put you could you could switch the team.
You can put AJ in Cincinnati, you can put Chase
in Philly.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I can't hear you. Give me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh there you go. You're back, You're back. I'm blurry,
you can see me.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, I'm looking at me. Did my life? Yeah? Yeah,
okay now yeah yeah yea.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I say, all all those players we talk about like
they interchangeable. You can put them on any team and
they're gonna be productive. They at, they're gonna be PRODUCTI
no matter we at. You can put Tyrek in Philly,
tyrekn Tyree can Miami Tyreek and Cincinnati, Tyrek in Dallas,
or just put it in it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They're all gonna be able to get open. All of them.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Now, once you get out that top seven or eight
or ten, now change not not look.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think the thing is is that you know, Chase
was one, JJ Jeller was two, Reek was three, CD
was four. AJ was five. Yeah, I'm and Rod Saint Brown,
Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Boys but the boys nasty bro.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I think Nico Collins cracked the top ten. Nasty Mike Abbotts,
Oh no, Garrett, Yeah, Nico with eight, Mike Evans and
Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Garret Wilson another one. Get you get you get you
at the muscle can line up and get It's only
it's so funny. It's only a few of them.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
As many receivers as there are in the NFL, it's
only a few.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I'm leaving you out here.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I call it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I call the receivers that the officer of coordinator don't
have to worry about you. Make my job easy because
I can do everything, I can do more with my
offense because I know you could take care of your business, right,
I ain't got to worry about you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think the thing is that when you leave a
receiver one position, now you let them set their defense
and they can like okay, do we goalna roll the
coverage here, Now find me catch them if you can
find me. I'm playing hide and seek. I'm in the slot.
I might motion out of the backfield. I might mind
up at Z, I might line up an X. Ain't
gonna tell him, Hey, the slot, the wing, whatever, you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Know, if you know what you know. It's a good
point too, what Darius Slay just said.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Now you get better understanding of why AJ was frustrated
last year, because well, I knew why. There was no creativity. No,
there wasn't no creativity. You leave me on one side and
allow them defense to dictate what we want to do.
Why Because they allowed jayalen Hurst to play in the
play into the confines of that offense and not do
anything extra outside of that where if they're.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Gonna let you catch the ball, it got to be
one on one.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, and yeah I knew why. Everybody knew why, and
they tried to dress it up. Jayalen Hurst were throwing
four hundred and twenty yards. Yeah, yeah, then I gonna
win the championship with that, and you and he got
better and better, and you see, go look at his
playoff numbers. They got better and better and in the
Super Bowl. He was sensational. Every time he got one
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on one, he made him play for. Every he made
him play for every time they gave him one on one,
he made him pay because Spags were not gonna he
was not going to let Saquan be Hm. Yeah, he neutralized.
But in the process of that, he left his corners
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on an island.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah yeah, and he saw what happened. And matter of fact,
I'm let me. I'm gonna I'm gonna just throw this
out there too. My honorable mentions as well.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
They're giving you a small symb size on what they
can do when tank Tale comes, when Tankdale comes back
and he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, he ain't come back this year. I don't think
he come back this year. You get twenty six, my.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Young bull over there in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
They flowers, They flowers.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's That's another one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Brian Thomas Junior should have been on all the match list.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Brian Thomas Jr. Another one. We said elite neighbors.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Right, yeah, well he on the lists. Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
he number seven.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I don't have all the NFL teams in front of me.
I'm just going off the top of my head based
on on skill set.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean you still got d K, you got George Pickens,
you got Higgins, oh t yeah, yeah, you got Judy.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You know Judy belonging that conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Let's see, Lad McConkie, if you think about the only
really I mean, I'm and rad and and and and
see he were really the only the only slots.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
See, that's that's that's what I don't like. The number,
the number, the number of people that belong in the conversation.
Some people get left out that are just as consistent
as Aman Ross, Saint Brown or CD Lamb. Lad McConkie,
stay open, I think a big Yeary Flowers.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He stay open in that slot.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I mean, but that's another conversation for another day.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I mean, look, when you have a top ten,
obviously you gotta leave somebody out because you only got
ten slots.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
They're like, give me your ten best rappers.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, somebody gonna get left out because they're a thousand
rappers past and present. You okay, give me your ten
best R and B singers. Well you're gonna leave somebody
out if you go, okay, give me your fifty best.
You know, women, R and B singers. Somebody's gonna get
left out. You only got ten slots, so and you
have to be okay, good luck man. You know ro
(21:36):
it is what it is. And people got to understand
that that does't mean and you might make somebody else's
list and not you know, not someone else. Oh Joe,
we have more info coming out on Christin Wilkins. Adam
Schefter shares was an awkward kiss incident between Christin Wilkins
and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins kissed a Fella player on
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the head and the teammate took fence to it. The
incident happened inside the team meeting room. Reports says the
interaction was playful, but the teammate didn't see it that way.
Chefter ads the incident was not the sole reason Wilkins
was cut. Is the real, Oh jo, When did wit
hold on? This is a Now, this is Chefter talking legedly.
(22:23):
This this was an incident that took place. Right When
did men start playing like this? Ohoe, forget, forget. I
understand it's twenty twenty five. It's a different time, and
I don't get. I don't care what your letter is
into alphabet. Be you.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm cool with it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You be the L, you be the B, you be
the T, you be the Q, pok plural, whatever the
case may be.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Have at it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
When did men in a football back in a setting
like this? When did they start playing like this? Oho,
Whether after I left the game, whether it like last week,
a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You stayed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I retired for you retired in twenty twelve from the NFL,
So you stayed a little longer than I did.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So when did this start happening? Oo?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Hey, I don't know. I don't know. I think I
think that's plays like.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
The people I hang around based on where I'm from,
I don't I don't see that type activity. I don't
see that type of Listen, we have treat me. We
have played for Banma, but the play, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We and we we conducted it ain't like that.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
It ain't in that manner. So it is news to me.
It's new to me. I don't know Christian Wilkinson, you know,
Perceon Wilkins. I don't know him personally.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, I know of him, you know as a
fun energetic type of player. He's some funny things, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, they got that picture when I think they're the
National Championship game of one game and the.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Guy on the ground, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Like, bro, guys don't play Look, maybe maybe they do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not I shouldn't say. I'm just from an era guys
didn't play like that. And yeah, look, yeah we horse played.
We might nail somebody locker short shut. We might put
powder or water in your shoulder pants and when you
grab him it come down on top of your Do
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guys horse play around like that?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes? Do we soak the.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then
put them in the freezer. Yes, we've seen guys, you know,
basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen
stuff like that, Oh Joe, not like and I've seen
some stuff in the locker room. Now, I've seen some
guys play that. Even I was like, y'all nasty.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That grow a but not not not today, magnitudo, not
not no, not.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, not no, not no, not no kissing on not
even kissing on the forehead, not even though no joking matter.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say I'm not
in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I wasn't actually there, and obviously chef did his best
job in this describing what happened.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And obviously think.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
About Ocho, remember we talked about it. Of all the
things they could have said, why did they say this? Now,
they could have said anything, he stole somebody car, he
stole fifteen hundred dollars from somebody, he forged the check,
Of all the things they could have tagged the young
man with. Allegedly they put this.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, I mean listen, Allegendly that's actually what happened. You know,
it had to come from somewhere, so that means that's
exactly what happened where they'll smoke this fire, right where
they'll smoke this fire. So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Whoever the player was, they took offense to it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Maybe they got in a little scuffle, Maybe it caused
an issue, and maybe that was just the icing on
the cake for them to release him based on the
other issues and other incidents about him missing games last
year and then not doing what's required to make sure
he gets on the field in the time man of
this year, maybe fed up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If I'm not mistaken, Ojo, they said this incident happened earlier,
so I don't know if it happened, saying the season.
It happened at some point in time during the season.
Obviously there was there was a diff of fracturing, a
fracturing where they like, Bro, you need the surgery. He
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says no. It seemed like he said no. Maybe they
wanted a second opinion. He didn't want to get a
second opinion, because here's the thing you could have. You
could like, okay, you got to tour in ACL and
not to say well, you need to get to say
like no, i'mal let the hell on his own.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you
can do it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
They tell you to go get a second opinion, O Joe,
you can do that, and both darkness say the same thing.
You say, no, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but
you can do that. I don't I don't get why
he wouldn't, considering he had guaranteed money. He had thirty
five million dollars coming to him that was guaranteed, so
he was at I could see, O Joe, if I
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didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if a situation like Noah, Bro,
I need to get on the field, but he got
guaranteed money, and so they say, nah, it's not healing
like it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You need to have another surgery. Right. I just don't
I don't get that. That's what's being reported. Now.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We don't know what's true or not. But look, the
truth is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the
kiss on the forehead, the second opinion they wanted to have,
they wanted to have surgery again something. The truth is
somewhere in here, O Joe. We just don't know where
it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in
this box.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear
the situations, right, and it's like having a puzzle piece.
All right, we got we got good pieces to the puzzle,
and you can just fill out the rest of the
puzzle based on the actions that have happened and what
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
So you missed games last year, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well I think you only played five games though, Joe,
I think he got hurt after the fifth game.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, listen, all right, we're going into a new season.
You're still not healthy.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Right when it got a second opinion, maybe your second
opinion said, you know what, you need to just.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Relax and let it heal. On the song.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Maybe the team said, well you need to get surgery.
So again, now we're going to another season. You missed
so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again,
you're still not healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You're not on the field.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
They see you on on camera dancing around, you know,
having fun and doing doing stuff. That's that's not for one,
helping the team too, that's not helping yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And three, what we're paying you means as dollars to
do you're not earning that. You're not earning that.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You're not going to do that on our time or
our clock, right, And so they made a business decision.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm looking at it like, like I said, if he's
in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have
this guaranteed money, and he thinks like, hey, I get it,
I totally get it. But he got thirty he got
he got what he had already got like forty nine million,
he got another seven coming this year, and then guess what, ohoe,
he got another twenty five coming, another twenty five, twenty
seven coming the following year. So he's protected. That's why.
(29:02):
That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts. So Joe, so
I can be protected not just for one year, but
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But if the report is what Chef is saying is true,
I just don't know when this started taking place. Guys
like I said, Hey, look like I said, Oh Joe,
we ain't look. I don't put I don't put more
two item, gone through so many tubes of toothpaste, putting
toothpastes on a guy's door in training camp, because I
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know all you gonna do is just walk out the
door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look back
at it. He just gonna grab it and got him.
I done, poured so much alcohol and lit it on
fire up under the door. Yeah, we play pranks like that,
but we know. Look, you ain't don't touch a man's
you know, boy, I saw somebody almost got the brakes
beat off him.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He took his hair, he took his brush, took the
duke brush and caught his pubet, bushed his pubert air
with it with his brush and put it back. Okay, See,
people don't play now, man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It ain't nothing but a brush it ain't it ain't
that serious. People don't play the way you play. Everybody
don't play like that, and you and you need to
understand that because you dealing with Look, I said, uh,
I just don't. I don't get it. I just like
(30:26):
I said, I grew up at a time where men
men didn't play. Men rarely didn't play at all. I
remember my grandfather and I'm telling no jokes, like I said,
and uh, we told the.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Story of my brother.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I just sat down with him about somebody made a
joke about my grandfather's teeth. And as my grandfather was
driving off, he had his teeth, he had his false teeth.
They were sitting on the dash and got a uhuh,
mister bonney, don't let don't let your teeth for a runaway.
My grandfather put that car in reverse, stop that car
(30:57):
and got out, said, don't play. Say I'm enough to
be your dad. They don't play with me, he said,
I'm a grown ass man. He say, find somebody to
play with, and I'm not him.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Probably about five s here for each bot my because
if you know back all people used to go to
get the gas. That should get that full service. O
Joe you know what I'm saying, they ain't get a
pump the whole gas. Then hey, because you did the
windows and you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, you
did the window, got the windows all nights and.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
You know what that do that in Jersey? Huh oh
they do that, do that in Jersey?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay man, And so I'm I'm I'm surprised. I'm really
surprised that. Uh and in the today's society that allegedly
what Christian Wilkins did. I mean because he's like I said,
there are some things that like and and and photos
that surface and I don't know it might be AI.
(31:51):
It's hard to say. Hell, I don't got the way.
I don't really believe nothing no on the internet anymore
because I don't even know if it's if it's real
low cho, if it's AI, because A I have had,
you know, got an alligator riding the horse. So I
don't even know what to believe anymore, Oh Joe. But
I'm just saying, God, stop playing so much. All these
(32:15):
people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see
people walking up and they trying to prank somebody and
they do it. All this stuff shot that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, come on, come on that. You you're gonna
get yourself hurt. And the first thing is somebody family
gonna say they didn't have to do him like that,
or they didn't have to do her, do her like that.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
No, you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
To play like that. People, everybody don't play the same.
Somebody gonna let y'all have it, So just stop, just
stop like because like you said, O Joe, that's a
total stranger. You don't know that from Adam and I
know somebody I know, I got great friends, but we
know how to play, and we know just say when
(33:00):
we play. You know certain things. There's certain things that's
off limits, and you understand that. You always state you
did it.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
With you always know what line, not the cross.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know your friends, You always know what what what
can get that what buttons the push you know it.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Button's not the push.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know what line, not the cross, And there's there's
great understanding with that when it's it's someone that you've
been friends with for a very long time. Now, when
somebody knew, like you're.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
On a new team, a teammate that you don't know
that well outside of that building, there's certain things you
can't do.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
You can't conduct yourself, you know, the way you conduct
yourself with somebody known twenty twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's why you go in a new environment. You sit
back and you observed.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, okay, I can joke with him. I can't joke
with him. I can say something like this to him. Yeah,
I can't say that to him. You got to read
the room.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's why you observe.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Give yourself a month for two three months, excuse me,
observe and see who you can and can't. Yeah, who
you can talk to, who you can make joke with,
who you can do certain things too. You just need
to be observing because being in a locker room, because
you got a lot of different backgrounds, don't Joe Paper
come from a lot of different areas. I mean the
(34:16):
social economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how
somebody was raised. He you don't know what the trigger is.
You just don't want to be the one to pull
it right. So I'm sorry the young man, but hopefully
they get this resolved. Because he's extremely talented. He can
(34:38):
play yeah, going to the Pro Bowl. He can play Yeah,
he can rush the passy. He's tremendous against the run.
It seems to me that he really enjoys the game.
Sometimes I think he enjoyed it too much. But this
I just, like I said.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Chefter's reporting that this incident did happen, but he's saying
that's not the sole reason of why they chose to
go in this direction. We don't know, Like I said,
that's what Shefter's being reported. We're reporting, basically, we're commenting
on what Schefter's reporting. What we do know is that
(35:16):
he's been released, and they're basically saying, we ain't paying you.
He filed agreements with the NFLPA trying to get the
guaranteed money that he believes he's old.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
We'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Adam Schefter says Terry McLaurin is seeking a contract greater
than that of DK metcalf, the one that he received
from the Steelers. Here's what Adam Schefter had to say.
I would say DK was in the same draft class
as Terry McLaurin. He got about thirty three million per year.
I wouldn't think that Terry's willing to take less than that.
I think he wants considerably more than that, Washington. They're
(35:53):
not there right now. They love the value Terry McLaurin,
but they love the value in him at a different
price is in the final year of his current contract,
which you do to make a base salary of fifteen
point five million.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And carry a cap hit a twenty five million.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
You just said they value McLaurin and what he brings
it a team, but at that price. Well, they got
to find a happy medium. They got to have a
happy medium, because all you got to do is pull
up the numbers. I don't have the numbers in front
of me. I'm not sure what DK metcalf has done
the past three four years. I'm not sure what well
(36:37):
I know Terry McLaurin. He said, one thousand yards every
year every sea.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But oh Joe, how many time you heard somebody say
I like it, but I don't like it at that price?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
See that's the thing, Hey, they like Terry, they don't
like Terry at that price because he said a chef
that if what chef is saying is true, he wants
to be north of thirty three thirty. So now cd
CDs at thirty four, Jenna is at thirty five. Now
Chase pull valuked everybody and put it at forty. So
(37:10):
look and he's looking at it. Hold on, I'm signed
his contract to you turn on the f and film.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That uh, that's all I need to see. Turn on
the film. And I wish. I wish Jayden Daniels had.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
The kind of leveraging power, which I think he does,
but as a rookie, I don't think he wants to.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Push that button. Joe Burrow went upstairs and Mike Brown say,
boss man, we need to get you know, and we
need to get five done. We need to I don't
know how you're gonna do it or what you need
to do. I'm not sure what the book.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, you got to get some years under the bell
before you get that kind of cash.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You don't have that kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, that's a that's a Joe Burrow Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh boy, right, I think you got it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I wish, but he will he will have that
kind of he will, he will will be well that
kind of hammer.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I think je Dans understands the importance of having this
number one target for sure. I think the team, the owners,
they all understand that you know, we talked about we
talk about numbers.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Find a number that's good, that's not insulting. You're not
asking to me the highest paid.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
He said, Put me in the put me in the
ballpark and where I belong, and let me know you
value me.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, I mean well, Chef Chefter reported that he want
to be valued more than what Minnesota value Jetda, more
than see that, did you want.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
More than Jetta?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I hear the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
If DK's ain't thirty three, the next is thirty four CD,
the next is thirty five Jeta. So if he don't
work thirty three, what do he won't?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh, fifteen to thirty three is is?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I mean, that's a big jump, a huge jump.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I'm thinking, like you said, is he trying to reset
the mark, not reset the market?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
But he's second high second second.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Chase, don't I don't. I don't know what he tried
to do. I'm just saying what Shefter said. Chefter says, uh,
they were in the same draft class. I think Terry
McLaurin and DK were in the same draft class. DK
got thirty three. I wouldn't think that Terry is willing
to take less than that I think he wants considerably
more than that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So you're talking about thirty six thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Ooh, hey, that's gonna be tough. Hey, listen, don't get
me here of the line. Hey, that's gonna that's gonna
be tough. That's gonna be tough. I understand it. You listen.
You gotta fight for what you gotta fight for what
you want because you only get what you want.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Hey, listen, You're only gonna have this kind of leverage
one time. Yeah, one time.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
So you gotta get it right. Yeah, you gotta get
it right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So the question is, like you said, we don't. I mean, look,
I don't know what he's asked it for. Chefter may
ay maybe Chefter talked to his agegent. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Listen, Chefter likes shams and u shams and wolves. He
ain't wrong. Is coming from somewhere.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Hell yeah, it absolutely is. But like I said, I
like it, I don't like it at that price. You
know what I'm saying. Hey, Hey, oh Joe, how about
like chrome heart jeans.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I don't like him at that price.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I love scary Terry Man.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I hope we get what he deserves, but you got
to be. You got to be willing to fight, Broy,
especially what you're asking for, if if what Adam Schefter
is reporting is correct, you got to be willing to fight.
You're gonna have to hold your ground because one thing
they will use against you.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
You got that C on your chest. You know they
will choose your love for the game and use it
against you.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I know firsthand. Hey, I know first hand. O O Joe.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh, we're gonna we're gonna stall him out. He's gonna
fold at some point.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, he loved, he loved the game, he loved being right,
he loved being around the team, he loved the guys.
You know, the Titans have officially released Trailing Burkes, so
let's revisit the night the twenty twenty two trade. The
Titans traded A. J. Brown for the draft rights the
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trailing Burkes, Roger McCreary, Nicholas petite Free and Kyle Phillips.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I saw them.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't I don't know. I don't know what the
Tennessee was thinking. I still don't know. So, Okay, you
saved money you didn't want to pay, You didn't want
to make you didn't want to pay A J. Brown
what he would what the value what he had earned? Okay,
you saved money, what had it got you?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
They thought trailing Burks was the answer.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
They did because they say, he's the same type of guy.
Look at he's big, he's physical. Bro. If y'all watched
him and y'all watched A. J. Brown, they're not the same.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
They not. But sometimes you get.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
You get caught up and you get mad at somebody
and you convince yourself somebody is better.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
They got mad at aj.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Because he wanted what was rightfully he felt he had earned,
and they're like, nah, we're gonna trade you. You should
have paid him just for dabinitely deal with the quarterbacks
that y'all had, Now what you should have paid him
just on that alone.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, listen, you know year three Frendon Burgh is going
into a third year this year. Yeah, year three is
normally the year that lets people know and should make
it a breaking year.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Maybe maybe this might have been the year he figures
it out.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, he had broken collar bone, so he was gonna
be out for like six eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, that's that's that's messed up.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
The business is dirty, by the business is dirty, especially
when the small summer side of what you've been able
to show us so far, it's.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Not enough for us to keep you around to allow
that collar bone to heal. No, absolutely not as players like.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
That that I wish, I wish I had the opportunity
to work with an off season.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Oho, he had fifty nine catches, six hundred and ninety
nine yards and one touchdown.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
For a career.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But that's the career.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yep, three seasons you show, That's right, Yeah, that what
he saying.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
He had three fifty he had had played three seasons,
he had fifty three catches, six hundred ninety nine yards,
two touchdowns and the CNFL career. Oh and twenty twenty two,
he played eleven games, he had thirty three receptions for
four hundred and forty four yards, And twenty twenty three,
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he played eleven games, he had twenty receptions, he had
two hundred and fifty five yards. In twenty twenty four,
he played five games, zero receptions, zero yards.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Okay, he must have been he must have been hurt
and then just broke his collar on. Yeah, damn, it's tough. Damn.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah. I think it's fair to say the Eagles won
that trade.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, you know what. I hope he was.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Probably like, hey, y'all got any other player y'all want
to get rid of over there?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, I hope. I hope you get another opportunity though
when he get.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, I think, oh, he a first round pick, so
he'll get another opportunity.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
But I wonder, what is forty time? What do you
running forty en?
Speaker 4 (44:59):
He's the first round I pick. Helly got he had
to run fast. He ain't run slow because if he
ran slow, then no listen his career four five, five, Yeah,
hell shit, I ran for five, but I played I
played for three.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
There's a difference. The game ain't played in a straight line.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Mm hmm. And he looked they keep see they thought
he was gonna be a J. Brown. AJ Brown is
a different type of receiver. H aj was ran. He
ran for fort nine.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Hey, but they play so much faster than that forty
times man.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
For sure? Yeah, six one, two, twenty six, Oh.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Man, oh brave big what yeah? Damn to twenty six?
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You can't look at him and tell I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
He bout my size Jesus.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah you yeah, he's a he's a he's a physical receiver.
He after the catch.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Now, he catched the deep ball, but he wants the
ball in his hands. Nobody wants he wanted to ball
in his hand. Okay, tackle me, yeah, you faster than me. Okay,
let me see how many time you want to tackle
me though? Okay, yeah, okay, you right, I can't run.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yes, yes, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
But I guarantee you after the fourth time, you ain't
gonnant to tackle me two times, I'm gonna steal from
you the second. The third time, I'll put my helmet
in your in your I'm gonna hit my helmet right.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
In your chest.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
You see what Marshawn Lynn say. Yeah, h hit you
in your face over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Jared Jones said he just can't help himself today.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
He said last year's chance for CD Lamb's contract extension
was much louder than yesterday's chance for Micaeh. Jerry said, Man,
that was a little faint noise compared to the way
they will hollering last year paid Lamb.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Whoever's not in you could count it a.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Few holler at that, but it was big and loud
last year chance for Lamb.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Listen, I told you what I think Jerry's doing I
told you what I think he's doing. He's purpose every
time he's not pranking us, but every time it's time
for a player to get paid, even though he has
to pay.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Them top dollar. I think he purposely wasted to the
last minute for a reason. He's doing on purpose. So
the tension can always be on the Cowboys can always.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Be on be on him.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
Let's say, what if he did pay Michael Parsons already?
What would be the conversation, What would be the conversation
right now?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Oh, Dak are you gonna are you what you're gonna
do with that?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
What do you mean that?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
That that is scheduled to make what sixty sixty one,
sixty two something like that?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Billion dollars? Hey? Is it gonna extend him?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Extend him? He just signed it.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Man, he got two years. He got a little other
year left on that already.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that that that do that say? Hey, that's what
I say, Oh Joe, Hey, that's what I say. These
years go by fast. You look up. I mean, hey,
I just remember celebrating the fiftieth birthday. Now I'm close
to the sixty that I am fifty, And that's the
thing you look up, man, man, this time ain't waiting
(48:53):
on nobody with you.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh it ain't one thing, and one thing is it
would never do it would never it would never say that.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
You remember that quote you said about why you wear
a watch? Remember that quote? I got to reach out.
I ain't got my pad, I will watch?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Why?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Hey? Hey, how value my time is not to tell time? Yeah?
That guy after this year, that can have two years left?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Okay, okay, dang that that that killing him? Boy, that
killing him. They one hell of a team off.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Eighty million dollars signing bonus two hundred and thirty one
million and guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
That's what he got.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
That what that guy?
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Go ahead? Brother, yeah, mad at it at all?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I mean you know how much a man got to pay?
How much a man gotta be worth to pay you
two hundred and thirty and guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
I'me on now
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Come on now, hey to the man, the man that
got a hundred million dollar home, how much money do
you think he actually got
A twenty year age gap.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
So if I'm if I'm fifty seven, Terry's got to
be seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So he came out, so he had to came out
if he didn't red shirt that. They wasn't red shirt
like that back then. So he came out at twenty
one twenty two in nineteen seventy and it's what nineteen,
it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now that's fifty five. That's fifty five years.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So he got to be he's gotta be seventy seven,
maybe seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let me you know what, let me google this, let
me see how I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But I think it's hard for me to believe he's
anything other than that O Joe.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, because like I said, it's a jem Bradshaw.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He's seventy six bren in nineteen forty eight, he'll be
seventy seven September second.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I'm right on it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, you on it. You was a mad you're good
with numbers on you.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hey, Like I said, said, I don't think they read
shirt a whole lot back then, because you know, Colin
is trying to get your answer out of them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Uh, they weren't trying to play for an extra year.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But I think the thing is is that if you
look at those old old guys, you play football, you
keep your mind shut, you go home.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, all that other stuff it annoys them.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You just said something earlier when we were talking about
the Super Bowl tickets and about adapting. Yeah, I think
some of the old players from that era, back in
those times, they had a way of doing things. But now, yeah, listen,
we were in the air. We've moved on and advance
in certain areas, especially the game of football. Everybody doesn't
act that way. Everybody's not a robot, and they're approached
to the game and how they play or see it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So need to adapt as well, which many of them haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
No, haven't, No, because I think the greatest key is survival.
Survival is adaptability. And because the players were that way,
the coaches with that that way, honest year was that way,
and so they don't see this like ro and when Terry,
Terry won four Super Bowls in six.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Years or.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And so he's like, this method is tried and true.
The less distractions you present for the team, the better
off you're gonna be. All this talking and all. But
but oh, that's that's how they do it. Because look,
some people can you know, can party and can hang out,
come in at two or three in the morning, get
(02:30):
two or three out of sleep and function just fine. Fine,
that wasn't what I could do, right, I need to
be sleep by ten ten thirty. I mean, it is
what it is. And some guys can hang out and
drink and come in. And you thought they got to
bed at seven thirty and they didn't get to and
they might've not got to bed this seven thirty that morning.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, and that's that's the big boys.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but that's but who those Aaron said, And we're
just taking him at his word. If Terry got to
know him on a deep, deeper level, gave him a chance,
who knows, they might hit it off. He might actually
like me, because I do think error of a deep thinker.
(03:17):
I think sometimes he does overthink things. But hey, man,
the old man, oh Joe, you know how it is
man them old When the old people get set, they
sitting there way though, ya ain't.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, they're not changing that, they're not evolving. They think
everything works based on how they had success. Well it
worked for me, it should work for you, So you
should be doing it this specific way. Yep, they're not
evolving nothing, They're not good with technology.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Nope, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It's hard when you only looking through your lens.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
See, Terry only sees things through his lens. And so
it's tough.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's tough o' shoe when you criticized somebody and all
of a sudden they come play for the organization that
you've played for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is
that Terry is not really around. He's not like rested
Soul Franco used to be around all the time. Mel
Blood is around all the time. Terry Terry works Sunday.
Terry is not around. And unless Fox have the Super Bowl,
(04:26):
he's not gonna be around. So and like I said,
I I've been around Terry, you know, worked at that,
worked at Fox for years and and and and and
and met Terry.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He's a he's a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Country he's a country guy that I think what he's
having now he used to have cattle. I think he
got horses now.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And you know, he gonna tell it like it is
no matter who it is too.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Huh, Hey, you're gonna you're gonna tell you just like
Alum said that our word, you're gonna gettee you raw pause, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah he is. And so you know it's family.
Like I said, I know in the beginning. But if
I'm not mistaken, I think Terry has I think he
raises quarter horses.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I know one point in time he had cattle. He
had beef cattle. Uh, he was in the cattle business.
I don't know if he still has it. He had,
you know, big rank, you know he had you know
probably I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well you have a you have a rode quarter horse before?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nah man, we had a pony growing up. We had
a pony named Ringo. Uh Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I had a cousin had a horse named Lady who
is an apple looser, you know, white with the black
spots on him.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But nah, nah, you.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Know I ride horses. You know I'm not Dan dv
there man.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I ride horses consistently when I when I have time. Obviously,
god damn quarter horse man.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They ride. They ride like real You can feel every
goddamn thing.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's like move nothing, man, They look at it. Look
now he looking to run, don't Joe?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Or he looking for you to ride? If you want
something to ride, or you want something to ride to
sell the ride or or the work. You need to
get a saddle horse. You you didn't get a horse.
That's that's specific. What are the fair bread mean to do?
Breads meant to run?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Run?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Running is fine, and just the ride is rough. Yes,
I can't remember Filipino. I can't remember the name of
the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic.
They're not that big, but it feels like you're riding
on clowns. They gonna speed. It feel like, you know,
it's so smooth and it's so easy to catch a rhythm.
Them goddamn quarter horses. Man, you every guy, Damn even
(06:39):
if you try, you.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Know, I've been riding for years now, you try to
go where it's still rough.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, I can't remember the kind of horses they have
in the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Starts with a pee Philip something.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Might have been a Filipino.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, listen, now, I was just like, you know, just
all just looking at the hor the muscular structure, and
you looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds, that
ankle bonus the size of a human.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And that's why they have so much, so many problems.
A horse.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You look, you look at a horse, an animal that's
a thousand pounds and the ankles are not much bigger
than a human.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's why they break so easy.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what you know. That's why, that's why you have
the problem that you have. And you know a lot
of times what they do when you're breaking you you know,
you put him down because you're asking him to try
to put that weight, to redistribute that weight. It's sad,
that's what it is. But uh now, but I look,
I wish you know Terry and and and and Aaron
can get somewhere and and and the conversation. We never
(07:45):
hear about it. We never hear about it because I
don't think we need to hear about it. I don't
think we need to know about it. But I think,
you know, there's some things that you know, Terry would
probably want to share with Aaron, and Aaron would want
to share with Terry, and they could, they could move
the ball forward. But that's something that we shouldn't We
don't have to know.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I'm sure listen, I'm sure Aaron's gonna find a
way to get it, to have a conversation with him,
ask for his number, or Terry going to find a
way to reach out to him, just because you're planning
from an organization. I didn't mean what I said like that.
But they're gonna talk. And you know, Aaron Rodgers, he
shares everything. Right, here's everything. So at some point during
the season, it's going to come out that we had
(08:23):
a conversation. If he's not well, Terry's still gonna let
his ass have it on TV for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And also, Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh. I think Terry
lives in Oklahoma near the Texas Board or something like that.
So he's not like one of these his great players
for team players that live in the city, which they
played a lot of time. You know, players that were great,
they still live there because you know, I can cash
in you know, autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements
(08:52):
and things of that nature the team, you know, team activities,
stuff like that. They can take advantage of that. But
Terry Terry left. I don't think Terry. Terry only lived
in Pittsburgh probably during the season and once the season
was over. Terry right, Darius Slay says A J. Brown
is the best receiver in the NFL. He went on
Richard Sherman's podcast to explain why. Let's take a listen
(09:14):
to what he had to say, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Everybody on that listen from top four. It's mostly schemed
open for me. This is a dB.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I've don't seen Chase line up in the back I
see justin line up in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I've seen Tyrey be getting a three point.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Says Bot, the damn tackle guard and be motioned across that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All I see is Aed doing is line up at X.
See about me.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
If you want to see by me, I'm over here.
You know where I'm Matt. I'm not finishing on his backfield.
I'm not motion out of that and getting it, getting
isolated on the line back or none of that. I'm
coming to see your best dude to make your best
dude look like that's your worst dude. He don't run
from no smoke. So people having him at five, and
then people want to talk.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
About the quarterback play.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
All these guys got like real deal, like professional, like
pro pole type of quarterbacks. They always say hurts this
and hurts that out of all of them when have
come down in his passing, but like I say, Hurts
though the best DP ball and guess what, A J
Brown most likely the best.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
At catching that D ball. I like that. I like
what he said.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I like what he said, but I disagree with him
in which part talk to me, let me let you
go first.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Chase, ain't no scheme guy, no, justin Jefferson, Ain't no
scheme guy, Tyreek, Ain't no scheme guy guy. Absolutely not,
because their guy, because their ocs are creative bingo.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I'm glad you said it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It ain't my fault that that AJ doesn't have a
creative o' c.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
But he don't.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You don't. You don't get to win the Triple Crown
and be a scheme. You don't have eighteen hundred receiving
yards in scheme.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And when you that guy, you're that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah? Yeah. I disagree.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And I'm not saying that a J isn't isn't isn't
a good great receiver, however you want to, however you
want to categorize it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
But I disagree with Slay on that part.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That Chase and and and and and and and and
and Jetta and and Rieke they're not.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I disagree as well well.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But Darius has to understand is when you have those
players that are in your top five at the receiver position,
A J. Brown is in a position where they have
so many other weapons where you don't have to be
creative over there because you have a skilled.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Player in a J. Brown. That is no different than
having a Marvin Harrison. Chat. Listen to me closely.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm not saying a J. Brown is Marvin Harrison. When
Marvin Harrison lined up on what side.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He was gonna be on the right, He's on the right.
He ain't going the well.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
A J.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Brown just happened to have that same skill set, that
same dog in him and that DNA D d N
A N where he knows he can line up, he
can get out. I call it getting out the mud.
You call the play the officer cord. They don't got
to worry about you. I just know jaylen Hurst could
be blindfolded, call and play slant route, curl out, whatever
it may be, and he knows exactly where a J.
(12:16):
Brown will be at and he can get it out
the mud. When it comes to Justin Jefferson uh, Jamar
Chase and some of these other receivers. Sometimes you have
to get creative in order to get them the ball.
Why because they're gonna roll covers to him every time
if you keep him in this out every time. They
really can't do that over there in Philly because you
(12:36):
got that gangster in the back in the backfield where
you got to drop that fucking safety down in the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Box, right mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But justin Jefferson, you can line him up on this
on on on the left side of the right side
and say we need to get open the rest of
the game.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You can do that like that too.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
My job, my job as the O c OHO is
to not let your job be easy, because if I
just line him up there, I'll make you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Job easy easy. Roll the coverage, find out where he is,
and just roll to him.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's it, period.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna make you find my guy.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But there are guys you can scheme and you still
can't get them open. Chase, chase him, jettle him.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's why on.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Most everybody's list, when you see receivers come out, they're
one two. Here's one two.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And even though Arek had a bad year and look
and I'm not saying because I like aj is a big,
physical receiver. Uh, he's gonna catch the ball in traffic.
He's tremendous run after the catch is he can catch
the deep ball. And sometimes he gets frustrated because he's
not involved as soon as he thinks he should be,
(13:48):
or as much as he should be, and he has
lapses sometimes. But he's phenomenal. But that's why I disagree
with Slack. I get what he's saying. He's like, look,
the guy just lies up on one side, and he said, Okay,
come see me.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But see Joe.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
With that being said, even if Chase is not lying
up on the same side, he still saying, you still
got to come see me. Whether I'm in the slot,
whether I'm on the right, whether I'm on the left,
you still got to deal with me.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah. And there are a few players like that too long.
There are a few players.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
If we were just playing basic football and saying, okay,
we're breaking the huddle I formation and you just line
up on the same side every single time and the
defense knows exactly what you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
There are a.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Few players, maybe maybe eight or seven of them, that
can say, you know what, I'm leaving you on that
island and you're just gonna have to get open, right.
That can actually do it, and it makes the Office
of Coordinating job easy. When you had those type of players.
It ain't that many of them at receiver everyone else.
You have to get then splits, you have to put
them in motion, you have to do all these things
(14:53):
to get them open. Everybody can't get out there and
just get out, get out, get it out the muscle.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
It ain't right. It's very, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It is, But y'all doing them a disservice because if
everybody knows where he is. Look here, they ran stunts
with lt They ran stunts with Reggie Bruce. That don't
mean they couldn't do it. But I'm not trying to
just say, let's try to make their job easier. So,
like I said, I get what Slave's trying to say.
(15:23):
He's like, look, just imagine had if they moved him around.
Just imagine, you know, instead of just lining up as
the ex he lined up, you know, they put him
in the slot and they did different things with him.
They stacked him, so forth and so on. Okay, fine,
but Jamar Chase is not a scheme receiver. Need this Jetta,
(15:44):
need this Tyrek. Now, I don't know the other other
guys that were in the top I think they had AJ,
so I don't know if it was Pookah or if
it was Nico cop Yeah, CD lamb. Well CD is
mainly plays in the slot. He can't go outside, but
he's mainly.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
St mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
The funny thing about those top five you just named
is you could put you could you could switch the team.
You can put AJ in Cincinnati, you can put Chase
in Philly.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I can't hear you. Give me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh there you go. You're back, You're back. I'm blurry,
you can see me.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, I'm looking at me. Did my life? Yeah? Yeah,
okay now yeah yeah yea.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I say, all all those players we talk about like
they interchangeable. You can put them on any team and
they're gonna be productive. They at, they're gonna be PRODUCTI
no matter we at. You can put Tyrek in Philly,
tyrekn Tyree can Miami Tyreek and Cincinnati, Tyrek in Dallas,
or just put it in it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They're all gonna be able to get open. All of them.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Now, once you get out that top seven or eight
or ten, now change not not look.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think the thing is is that you know, Chase
was one, JJ Jeller was two, Reek was three, CD
was four. AJ was five. Yeah, I'm and Rod Saint Brown,
Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Boys but the boys nasty bro.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I think Nico Collins cracked the top ten. Nasty Mike Abbotts,
Oh no, Garrett, Yeah, Nico with eight, Mike Evans and
Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Garret Wilson another one. Get you get you get you
at the muscle can line up and get It's only
it's so funny. It's only a few of them.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
As many receivers as there are in the NFL, it's
only a few.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I'm leaving you out here.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I call it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I call the receivers that the officer of coordinator don't
have to worry about you. Make my job easy because
I can do everything, I can do more with my
offense because I know you could take care of your business, right,
I ain't got to worry about you.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think the thing is that when you leave a
receiver one position, now you let them set their defense
and they can like okay, do we goalna roll the
coverage here, Now find me catch them if you can
find me. I'm playing hide and seek. I'm in the slot.
I might motion out of the backfield. I might mind
up at Z, I might line up an X. Ain't
gonna tell him, Hey, the slot, the wing, whatever, you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Know, if you know what you know. It's a good
point too, what Darius Slay just said.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Now you get better understanding of why AJ was frustrated
last year, because well, I knew why. There was no creativity. No,
there wasn't no creativity. You leave me on one side and
allow them defense to dictate what we want to do.
Why Because they allowed jayalen Hurst to play in the
play into the confines of that offense and not do
anything extra outside of that where if they're.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Gonna let you catch the ball, it got to be
one on one.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, and yeah I knew why. Everybody knew why, and
they tried to dress it up. Jayalen Hurst were throwing
four hundred and twenty yards. Yeah, yeah, then I gonna
win the championship with that, and you and he got
better and better, and you see, go look at his
playoff numbers. They got better and better and in the
Super Bowl. He was sensational. Every time he got one
(19:07):
on one, he made him play for. Every he made
him play for every time they gave him one on one,
he made him pay because Spags were not gonna he
was not going to let Saquan be Hm. Yeah, he neutralized.
But in the process of that, he left his corners
(19:28):
on an island.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah yeah, and he saw what happened. And matter of fact,
I'm let me. I'm gonna I'm gonna just throw this
out there too. My honorable mentions as well.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
They're giving you a small symb size on what they
can do when tank Tale comes, when Tankdale comes back
and he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, he ain't come back this year. I don't think
he come back this year. You get twenty six, my.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Young bull over there in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
They flowers, They flowers.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's That's another one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Brian Thomas Junior should have been on all the match list.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Brian Thomas Jr. Another one. We said elite neighbors.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Right, yeah, well he on the lists. Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
he number seven.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I don't have all the NFL teams in front of me.
I'm just going off the top of my head based
on on skill set.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean you still got d K, you got George Pickens,
you got Higgins, oh t yeah, yeah, you got Judy.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You know Judy belonging that conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Let's see, Lad McConkie, if you think about the only
really I mean, I'm and rad and and and and
see he were really the only the only slots.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
See, that's that's that's what I don't like. The number,
the number, the number of people that belong in the conversation.
Some people get left out that are just as consistent
as Aman Ross, Saint Brown or CD Lamb. Lad McConkie,
stay open, I think a big Yeary Flowers.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He stay open in that slot.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I mean, but that's another conversation for another day.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I mean, look, when you have a top ten,
obviously you gotta leave somebody out because you only got
ten slots.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
They're like, give me your ten best rappers.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, somebody gonna get left out because they're a thousand
rappers past and present. You okay, give me your ten
best R and B singers. Well you're gonna leave somebody
out if you go, okay, give me your fifty best.
You know, women, R and B singers. Somebody's gonna get
left out. You only got ten slots, so and you
have to be okay, good luck man. You know ro
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it is what it is. And people got to understand
that that does't mean and you might make somebody else's
list and not you know, not someone else. Oh Joe,
we have more info coming out on Christin Wilkins. Adam
Schefter shares was an awkward kiss incident between Christin Wilkins
and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins kissed a Fella player on
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the head and the teammate took fence to it. The
incident happened inside the team meeting room. Reports says the
interaction was playful, but the teammate didn't see it that way.
Chefter ads the incident was not the sole reason Wilkins
was cut. Is the real, Oh jo, When did wit
hold on? This is a Now, this is Chefter talking legedly.
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This this was an incident that took place. Right When
did men start playing like this? Ohoe, forget, forget. I
understand it's twenty twenty five. It's a different time, and
I don't get. I don't care what your letter is
into alphabet. Be you.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm cool with it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You be the L, you be the B, you be
the T, you be the Q, pok plural, whatever the
case may be.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Have at it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
When did men in a football back in a setting
like this? When did they start playing like this? Oho,
Whether after I left the game, whether it like last week,
a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You stayed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I retired for you retired in twenty twelve from the NFL,
So you stayed a little longer than I did.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So when did this start happening? Oo?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Hey, I don't know. I don't know. I think I
think that's plays like.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
The people I hang around based on where I'm from,
I don't I don't see that type activity. I don't
see that type of Listen, we have treat me. We
have played for Banma, but the play, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We and we we conducted it ain't like that.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
It ain't in that manner. So it is news to me.
It's new to me. I don't know Christian Wilkinson, you know,
Perceon Wilkins. I don't know him personally.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, I know of him, you know as a
fun energetic type of player. He's some funny things, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, they got that picture when I think they're the
National Championship game of one game and the.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Guy on the ground, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Like, bro, guys don't play Look, maybe maybe they do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not I shouldn't say. I'm just from an era guys
didn't play like that. And yeah, look, yeah we horse played.
We might nail somebody locker short shut. We might put
powder or water in your shoulder pants and when you
grab him it come down on top of your Do
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guys horse play around like that?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes? Do we soak the.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then
put them in the freezer. Yes, we've seen guys, you know,
basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen
stuff like that, Oh Joe, not like and I've seen
some stuff in the locker room. Now, I've seen some
guys play that. Even I was like, y'all nasty.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That grow a but not not not today, magnitudo, not
not no, not.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, not no, not no, not no kissing on not
even kissing on the forehead, not even though no joking matter.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say I'm not
in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I wasn't actually there, and obviously chef did his best
job in this describing what happened.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And obviously think.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
About Ocho, remember we talked about it. Of all the
things they could have said, why did they say this? Now,
they could have said anything, he stole somebody car, he
stole fifteen hundred dollars from somebody, he forged the check,
Of all the things they could have tagged the young
man with. Allegedly they put this.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, I mean listen, Allegendly that's actually what happened. You know,
it had to come from somewhere, so that means that's
exactly what happened where they'll smoke this fire, right where
they'll smoke this fire. So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Whoever the player was, they took offense to it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Maybe they got in a little scuffle, Maybe it caused
an issue, and maybe that was just the icing on
the cake for them to release him based on the
other issues and other incidents about him missing games last
year and then not doing what's required to make sure
he gets on the field in the time man of
this year, maybe fed up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If I'm not mistaken, Ojo, they said this incident happened earlier,
so I don't know if it happened, saying the season.
It happened at some point in time during the season.
Obviously there was there was a diff of fracturing, a
fracturing where they like, Bro, you need the surgery. He
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says no. It seemed like he said no. Maybe they
wanted a second opinion. He didn't want to get a
second opinion, because here's the thing you could have. You
could like, okay, you got to tour in ACL and
not to say well, you need to get to say
like no, i'mal let the hell on his own.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you
can do it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
They tell you to go get a second opinion, O Joe,
you can do that, and both darkness say the same thing.
You say, no, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but
you can do that. I don't I don't get why
he wouldn't, considering he had guaranteed money. He had thirty
five million dollars coming to him that was guaranteed, so
he was at I could see, O Joe, if I
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didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if a situation like Noah, Bro,
I need to get on the field, but he got
guaranteed money, and so they say, nah, it's not healing
like it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You need to have another surgery. Right. I just don't
I don't get that. That's what's being reported. Now.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We don't know what's true or not. But look, the
truth is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the
kiss on the forehead, the second opinion they wanted to have,
they wanted to have surgery again something. The truth is
somewhere in here, O Joe. We just don't know where
it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in
this box.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear
the situations, right, and it's like having a puzzle piece.
All right, we got we got good pieces to the puzzle,
and you can just fill out the rest of the
puzzle based on the actions that have happened and what
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
So you missed games last year, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well I think you only played five games though, Joe,
I think he got hurt after the fifth game.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, listen, all right, we're going into a new season.
You're still not healthy.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Right when it got a second opinion, maybe your second
opinion said, you know what, you need to just.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Relax and let it heal. On the song.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Maybe the team said, well you need to get surgery.
So again, now we're going to another season. You missed
so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again,
you're still not healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You're not on the field.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
They see you on on camera dancing around, you know,
having fun and doing doing stuff. That's that's not for one,
helping the team too, that's not helping yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And three, what we're paying you means as dollars to
do you're not earning that. You're not earning that.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You're not going to do that on our time or
our clock, right, And so they made a business decision.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm looking at it like, like I said, if he's
in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have
this guaranteed money, and he thinks like, hey, I get it,
I totally get it. But he got thirty he got
he got what he had already got like forty nine million,
he got another seven coming this year, and then guess what, ohoe,
he got another twenty five coming, another twenty five, twenty
seven coming the following year. So he's protected. That's why.
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That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts. So Joe, so
I can be protected not just for one year, but
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But if the report is what Chef is saying is true,
I just don't know when this started taking place. Guys
like I said, Hey, look like I said, Oh Joe,
we ain't look. I don't put I don't put more
two item, gone through so many tubes of toothpaste, putting
toothpastes on a guy's door in training camp, because I
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know all you gonna do is just walk out the
door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look back
at it. He just gonna grab it and got him.
I done, poured so much alcohol and lit it on
fire up under the door. Yeah, we play pranks like that,
but we know. Look, you ain't don't touch a man's
you know, boy, I saw somebody almost got the brakes
beat off him.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He took his hair, he took his brush, took the
duke brush and caught his pubet, bushed his pubert air
with it with his brush and put it back. Okay, See,
people don't play now, man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It ain't nothing but a brush it ain't it ain't
that serious. People don't play the way you play. Everybody
don't play like that, and you and you need to
understand that because you dealing with Look, I said, uh,
I just don't. I don't get it. I just like
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I said, I grew up at a time where men
men didn't play. Men rarely didn't play at all. I
remember my grandfather and I'm telling no jokes, like I said,
and uh, we told the.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Story of my brother.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I just sat down with him about somebody made a
joke about my grandfather's teeth. And as my grandfather was
driving off, he had his teeth, he had his false teeth.
They were sitting on the dash and got a uhuh,
mister bonney, don't let don't let your teeth for a runaway.
My grandfather put that car in reverse, stop that car
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and got out, said, don't play. Say I'm enough to
be your dad. They don't play with me, he said,
I'm a grown ass man. He say, find somebody to
play with, and I'm not him.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Probably about five s here for each bot my because
if you know back all people used to go to
get the gas. That should get that full service. O
Joe you know what I'm saying, they ain't get a
pump the whole gas. Then hey, because you did the
windows and you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, you
did the window, got the windows all nights and.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
You know what that do that in Jersey? Huh oh
they do that, do that in Jersey?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay man, And so I'm I'm I'm surprised. I'm really
surprised that. Uh and in the today's society that allegedly
what Christian Wilkins did. I mean because he's like I said,
there are some things that like and and and photos
that surface and I don't know it might be AI.
(31:51):
It's hard to say. Hell, I don't got the way.
I don't really believe nothing no on the internet anymore
because I don't even know if it's if it's real
low cho, if it's AI, because A I have had,
you know, got an alligator riding the horse. So I
don't even know what to believe anymore, Oh Joe. But
I'm just saying, God, stop playing so much. All these
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people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see
people walking up and they trying to prank somebody and
they do it. All this stuff shot that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, come on, come on that. You you're gonna
get yourself hurt. And the first thing is somebody family
gonna say they didn't have to do him like that,
or they didn't have to do her, do her like that.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
No, you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
To play like that. People, everybody don't play the same.
Somebody gonna let y'all have it, So just stop, just
stop like because like you said, O Joe, that's a
total stranger. You don't know that from Adam and I
know somebody I know, I got great friends, but we
know how to play, and we know just say when
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we play. You know certain things. There's certain things that's
off limits, and you understand that. You always state you
did it.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
With you always know what line, not the cross.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know your friends, You always know what what what
can get that what buttons the push you know it.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Button's not the push.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know what line, not the cross, And there's there's
great understanding with that when it's it's someone that you've
been friends with for a very long time. Now, when
somebody knew, like you're.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
On a new team, a teammate that you don't know
that well outside of that building, there's certain things you
can't do.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
You can't conduct yourself, you know, the way you conduct
yourself with somebody known twenty twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's why you go in a new environment. You sit
back and you observed.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, okay, I can joke with him. I can't joke
with him. I can say something like this to him. Yeah,
I can't say that to him. You got to read
the room.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's why you observe.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Give yourself a month for two three months, excuse me,
observe and see who you can and can't. Yeah, who
you can talk to, who you can make joke with,
who you can do certain things too. You just need
to be observing because being in a locker room, because
you got a lot of different backgrounds, don't Joe Paper
come from a lot of different areas. I mean the
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social economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how
somebody was raised. He you don't know what the trigger is.
You just don't want to be the one to pull
it right. So I'm sorry the young man, but hopefully
they get this resolved. Because he's extremely talented. He can
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play yeah, going to the Pro Bowl. He can play Yeah,
he can rush the passy. He's tremendous against the run.
It seems to me that he really enjoys the game.
Sometimes I think he enjoyed it too much. But this
I just, like I said.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Chefter's reporting that this incident did happen, but he's saying
that's not the sole reason of why they chose to
go in this direction. We don't know, Like I said,
that's what Shefter's being reported. We're reporting, basically, we're commenting
on what Schefter's reporting. What we do know is that
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he's been released, and they're basically saying, we ain't paying you.
He filed agreements with the NFLPA trying to get the
guaranteed money that he believes he's old.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
We'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Adam Schefter says Terry McLaurin is seeking a contract greater
than that of DK metcalf, the one that he received
from the Steelers. Here's what Adam Schefter had to say.
I would say DK was in the same draft class
as Terry McLaurin. He got about thirty three million per year.
I wouldn't think that Terry's willing to take less than that.
I think he wants considerably more than that, Washington. They're
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not there right now. They love the value Terry McLaurin,
but they love the value in him at a different
price is in the final year of his current contract,
which you do to make a base salary of fifteen
point five million.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And carry a cap hit a twenty five million.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
You just said they value McLaurin and what he brings
it a team, but at that price. Well, they got
to find a happy medium. They got to have a
happy medium, because all you got to do is pull
up the numbers. I don't have the numbers in front
of me. I'm not sure what DK metcalf has done
the past three four years. I'm not sure what well
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I know Terry McLaurin. He said, one thousand yards every
year every sea.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But oh Joe, how many time you heard somebody say
I like it, but I don't like it at that price?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
See that's the thing, Hey, they like Terry, they don't
like Terry at that price because he said a chef
that if what chef is saying is true, he wants
to be north of thirty three thirty. So now cd
CDs at thirty four, Jenna is at thirty five. Now
Chase pull valuked everybody and put it at forty. So
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look and he's looking at it. Hold on, I'm signed
his contract to you turn on the f and film.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That uh, that's all I need to see. Turn on
the film. And I wish. I wish Jayden Daniels had.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
The kind of leveraging power, which I think he does,
but as a rookie, I don't think he wants to.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Push that button. Joe Burrow went upstairs and Mike Brown say,
boss man, we need to get you know, and we
need to get five done. We need to I don't
know how you're gonna do it or what you need
to do. I'm not sure what the book.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, you got to get some years under the bell
before you get that kind of cash.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You don't have that kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, that's a that's a Joe Burrow Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh boy, right, I think you got it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I wish, but he will he will have that
kind of he will, he will will be well that
kind of hammer.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I think je Dans understands the importance of having this
number one target for sure. I think the team, the owners,
they all understand that you know, we talked about we
talk about numbers.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Find a number that's good, that's not insulting. You're not
asking to me the highest paid.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
He said, Put me in the put me in the
ballpark and where I belong, and let me know you
value me.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, I mean well, Chef Chefter reported that he want
to be valued more than what Minnesota value Jetda, more
than see that, did you want.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
More than Jetta?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I hear the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
If DK's ain't thirty three, the next is thirty four CD,
the next is thirty five Jeta. So if he don't
work thirty three, what do he won't?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh, fifteen to thirty three is is?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I mean, that's a big jump, a huge jump.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I'm thinking, like you said, is he trying to reset
the mark, not reset the market?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
But he's second high second second.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Chase, don't I don't. I don't know what he tried
to do. I'm just saying what Shefter said. Chefter says, uh,
they were in the same draft class. I think Terry
McLaurin and DK were in the same draft class. DK
got thirty three. I wouldn't think that Terry is willing
to take less than that I think he wants considerably
more than that.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So you're talking about thirty six thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Ooh, hey, that's gonna be tough. Hey, listen, don't get
me here of the line. Hey, that's gonna that's gonna
be tough. That's gonna be tough. I understand it. You listen.
You gotta fight for what you gotta fight for what
you want because you only get what you want.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Hey, listen, You're only gonna have this kind of leverage
one time. Yeah, one time.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
So you gotta get it right. Yeah, you gotta get
it right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So the question is, like you said, we don't. I mean, look,
I don't know what he's asked it for. Chefter may
ay maybe Chefter talked to his agegent. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Listen, Chefter likes shams and u shams and wolves. He
ain't wrong. Is coming from somewhere.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Hell yeah, it absolutely is. But like I said, I
like it, I don't like it at that price. You
know what I'm saying. Hey, Hey, oh Joe, how about
like chrome heart jeans.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I don't like him at that price.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I love scary Terry Man.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I hope we get what he deserves, but you got
to be. You got to be willing to fight, Broy,
especially what you're asking for, if if what Adam Schefter
is reporting is correct, you got to be willing to fight.
You're gonna have to hold your ground because one thing
they will use against you.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
You got that C on your chest. You know they
will choose your love for the game and use it
against you.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I know firsthand. Hey, I know first hand. O O Joe.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh, we're gonna we're gonna stall him out. He's gonna
fold at some point.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, he loved, he loved the game, he loved being right,
he loved being around the team, he loved the guys.
You know, the Titans have officially released Trailing Burkes, so
let's revisit the night the twenty twenty two trade. The
Titans traded A. J. Brown for the draft rights the
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trailing Burkes, Roger McCreary, Nicholas petite Free and Kyle Phillips.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I saw them.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't I don't know. I don't know what the
Tennessee was thinking. I still don't know. So, Okay, you
saved money you didn't want to pay, You didn't want
to make you didn't want to pay A J. Brown
what he would what the value what he had earned? Okay,
you saved money, what had it got you?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
They thought trailing Burks was the answer.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
They did because they say, he's the same type of guy.
Look at he's big, he's physical. Bro. If y'all watched
him and y'all watched A. J. Brown, they're not the same.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
They not. But sometimes you get.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
You get caught up and you get mad at somebody
and you convince yourself somebody is better.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
They got mad at aj.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Because he wanted what was rightfully he felt he had earned,
and they're like, nah, we're gonna trade you. You should
have paid him just for dabinitely deal with the quarterbacks
that y'all had, Now what you should have paid him
just on that alone.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, listen, you know year three Frendon Burgh is going
into a third year this year. Yeah, year three is
normally the year that lets people know and should make
it a breaking year.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Maybe maybe this might have been the year he figures
it out.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, he had broken collar bone, so he was gonna
be out for like six eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, that's that's that's messed up.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
The business is dirty, by the business is dirty, especially
when the small summer side of what you've been able
to show us so far, it's.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Not enough for us to keep you around to allow
that collar bone to heal. No, absolutely not as players like.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
That that I wish, I wish I had the opportunity
to work with an off season.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Oho, he had fifty nine catches, six hundred and ninety
nine yards and one touchdown.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
For a career.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
But that's the career.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yep, three seasons you show, That's right, Yeah, that what
he saying.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
He had three fifty he had had played three seasons,
he had fifty three catches, six hundred ninety nine yards,
two touchdowns and the CNFL career. Oh and twenty twenty two,
he played eleven games, he had thirty three receptions for
four hundred and forty four yards, And twenty twenty three,
(44:07):
he played eleven games, he had twenty receptions, he had
two hundred and fifty five yards. In twenty twenty four,
he played five games, zero receptions, zero yards.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Okay, he must have been he must have been hurt
and then just broke his collar on. Yeah, damn, it's tough. Damn.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah. I think it's fair to say the Eagles won
that trade.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, you know what. I hope he was.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Probably like, hey, y'all got any other player y'all want
to get rid of over there?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, I hope. I hope you get another opportunity though
when he get.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, I think, oh, he a first round pick, so
he'll get another opportunity.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
But I wonder, what is forty time? What do you
running forty en?
Speaker 4 (44:59):
He's the first round I pick. Helly got he had
to run fast. He ain't run slow because if he
ran slow, then no listen his career four five, five, Yeah,
hell shit, I ran for five, but I played I
played for three.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
There's a difference. The game ain't played in a straight line.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Mm hmm. And he looked they keep see they thought
he was gonna be a J. Brown. AJ Brown is
a different type of receiver. H aj was ran. He
ran for fort nine.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Hey, but they play so much faster than that forty
times man.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
For sure? Yeah, six one, two, twenty six, Oh.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Man, oh brave big what yeah? Damn to twenty six?
Speaker 1 (46:04):
You can't look at him and tell I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
He bout my size Jesus.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah you yeah, he's a he's a he's a physical receiver.
He after the catch.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Now, he catched the deep ball, but he wants the
ball in his hands. Nobody wants he wanted to ball
in his hand. Okay, tackle me, yeah, you faster than me. Okay,
let me see how many time you want to tackle
me though? Okay, yeah, okay, you right, I can't run.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yes, yes, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
But I guarantee you after the fourth time, you ain't
gonnant to tackle me two times, I'm gonna steal from
you the second. The third time, I'll put my helmet
in your in your I'm gonna hit my helmet right.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
In your chest.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
You see what Marshawn Lynn say. Yeah, h hit you
in your face over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Jared Jones said he just can't help himself today.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
He said last year's chance for CD Lamb's contract extension
was much louder than yesterday's chance for Micaeh. Jerry said, Man,
that was a little faint noise compared to the way
they will hollering last year paid Lamb.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Whoever's not in you could count it a.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Few holler at that, but it was big and loud
last year chance for Lamb.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Listen, I told you what I think Jerry's doing I
told you what I think he's doing. He's purpose every
time he's not pranking us, but every time it's time
for a player to get paid, even though he has
to pay.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Them top dollar. I think he purposely wasted to the
last minute for a reason. He's doing on purpose. So
the tension can always be on the Cowboys can always.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Be on be on him.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
Let's say, what if he did pay Michael Parsons already?
What would be the conversation, What would be the conversation
right now?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Oh, Dak are you gonna are you what you're gonna
do with that?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
What do you mean that?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
That that is scheduled to make what sixty sixty one,
sixty two something like that?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Billion dollars? Hey? Is it gonna extend him?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Extend him? He just signed it.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Man, he got two years. He got a little other
year left on that already.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that that that do that say? Hey, that's what
I say, Oh Joe, Hey, that's what I say. These
years go by fast. You look up. I mean, hey,
I just remember celebrating the fiftieth birthday. Now I'm close
to the sixty that I am fifty, And that's the
thing you look up, man, man, this time ain't waiting
(48:53):
on nobody with you.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh it ain't one thing, and one thing is it
would never do it would never it would never say that.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
You remember that quote you said about why you wear
a watch? Remember that quote? I got to reach out.
I ain't got my pad, I will watch?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Why?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Hey? Hey, how value my time is not to tell time? Yeah?
That guy after this year, that can have two years left?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Okay, okay, dang that that that killing him? Boy, that
killing him. They one hell of a team off.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Eighty million dollars signing bonus two hundred and thirty one
million and guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
That's what he got.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
That what that guy?
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Go ahead? Brother, yeah, mad at it at all?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I mean you know how much a man got to pay?
How much a man gotta be worth to pay you
two hundred and thirty and guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
I'me on now
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Come on now, hey to the man, the man that
got a hundred million dollar home, how much money do
you think he actually got
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