July 29, 2025 • 50 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson break down the biggest headlines rocking the NFL, including Tua Tagovailoa’s honest take on Tyreek Hill quitting on the team, Micah Parsons' growing frustration with Jerry Jones over his contract, and more major storylines making waves across the league.
0:00 - Tua Calls out Tyreek Hill
16:52 - Time to pay Micah
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make ocho. Tua looks
to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after the weeks
Week eighteen outbursts.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Take a listen to what Tua had to say.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You
know a lot of people that follow football, that follow
the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his.
Everyone has seen that. So when you say something like that,
it's you don't just come back from that with hey
my bad, Now you got you gotta work that that
relationship up. You got to build everything up again. And
(00:46):
yeah that it's still a work in progress, not just
for me but for everybody. But now, like I said,
he's he's working on himself. He's working on the things
that he say. You know, he says he wants to
get better with UH and do better on so UH.
That's the first step to me, and so I commend
him for doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Not one lit told yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Can you refresh the people that are that are watching,
the people that are listening what he's referring to though,
because he said something, but the people might need context
if they don't remember what Tyreek said at the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, I can't give you ver Beta, but I think
he said something that he might be looking to get
out of here because he liked the winning and you know,
he got to do what's in the best interest for him.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Uh, things of that nature. He said a lot of
stuff he.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Did, But I think also I love what I love
what Too said. Obviously publicly two is going to have
his receiver's back, but also hold his receiver accountable and
he should everything he said. Also with for me as
a as a football player, a former player, understanding the
frustrations that the receiver would have, who've had a down
(01:55):
season for the first time, who's not used to having
a lackluster season like that. The frustrations build up, the inconsistency.
All right, I'm not used to this, So what's the
first thing you do? You vent about not actually wanting
to be in that situation anymore and seeing that whatever
method Tyrankle trying to do and trying to maybe find
a way to get out of Miami and find some
world scope, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever it
(02:17):
may be. It didn't work out that way through the Now,
I can't take what I said back. All I can
do is work on myself, apologize to my teammates, apologize
to my quarterback and my coaches. And there's one way
to make them forget about everything is do what you
do best, catching touchdowns. That's catching passes and working your
ass off. And that's three things that he already does,
(02:38):
which is why he's one of the best at what
he does now in the game. I think it's gonna
be fine.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Sometimes when you're angry, O Joe, Yeah, and I get it,
And I hate that, I really do. I hate when
guys get angry and they don't speak to the media. Yeah,
because when you score fifty, there's never a time when
somebody drop fifty in the NBA, they didn't speak to
the media. There's never a time when somebody had one
hundred and fifty two hundred two three touchdowns they didn't
(03:06):
speak to the media. But the moment you get a
little frustrated, you don't want to speak to the media.
But in certain situations, if it's a situation where you
so upset and the words that come out of your
mouth might do irreparable harm.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Go ahead chalking them. Say Hey, I can't speak right now.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
But what did you What's you're saying? When emotions are high, logic.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Is logic is low. And that's why I said, you
know what, and I get up.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I want you to good, batter and different because you
make the same money. It ain't like so you know
why I had a bad game. Oh yo, so oh
Cho had a bad game. Oh yo, only had four
for fifty yards. Well, o Jo, we're gonna give you
four for fifty yards money. O Cho had ten for
two sixty Okay, now, oh Choe, we're gonna give you
ten for two sixty money.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You make the same either way. But we are human. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There were times, man, I spoke to the media after
the game. I'm seething because I know we had some
guys that didn't play like they were supposed to, and
sometimes I was one of those guys.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Oh same, same, Listen, I can remember my games where
I played bad.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'm about vividly, yes, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Tell the media, I gotta do better. Yeah, John's job
is to throw it. My job is to catch it. Well,
if he's throwing it, I ain't catch it. I ain't
doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down.
I like the fact that to have acknowledge what he
said because a lot of times, oh man, know, hey,
(04:40):
we know how guys are so far the song that's
our brother.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That lets me know that what he said not only
bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room.
And they had a conversation with time. They talked to
Tyrek about this.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah. Absolutely, they talked to Tyrek about this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I like that old Joe because you know, sometimes,
oh Joe, they tried to gloss it over. Man, you know,
it ain't that big of a deal. Oh, absolutely bad please.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And there's only one person that can get away with
saying that, and that was the quarterback. That's the only
one that's the only person because it all fact all
falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay, my numbers
on what they used to be and anything that Tyreek
says at the end of the season, who they gonna
point the finger at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Quarterback? Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
But Tyreek knows what he has to do. I looked
at Tyreek's body this year compared to what it was
last year.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He looked ten to fifteen pounds lighter.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I told you, I told you what it looked like.
They God damn workout. Why that work out? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Look look the thing you thought, Joe. He's already so explosive.
Even if he leaves a step, you's still fast than
anybody else else.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Hey, completely, it is crazy. And you know what, the
fact he didn't lose the step because he just ran
a goddamn ten to one last month, what do we what?
And he's not even training to run track? How you
you're not even track training and you ran a ten one.
Imagine if he was in track shape or had track
technique or got track coaching, that that ten and one
(06:13):
dropped down on nine eight nine nine.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, he might definitely get this. He probably get the
ten easy easy.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Come on, man, he's gonna be. He gonna be alright, though,
he's gonna be gonna be.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But he just like, look, you gotta realize where he
came from. See, they never had these problems in Kansas City.
So Tyreek k used to this. Tyree used to be
my homeboy being there, and so he used to like knowing. Okay,
now granted, now his first couple of years in Miami,
he's number one, he's gonna get all the ball blah
blah blah now and in Kansas City, you know, he
(06:50):
had to split that with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins or
maybe someone else, but he knew he's gonna get X
and he knew Mahomes was going to be there. Right,
It's hard no matter how great you are. Look, only
DeAndre Hopkins can just go through quarterbacks and still put.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Up Pro Bowl, All Pro numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And you know who else did it? God damn Andre Johnson.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah. Yeah, he had a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Carousel as well, and for some reproduction didn't even matter
regardless who's got that throwing it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so I'm happy, uh that he said Tyreek is working,
But like you said, it takes time. And see, oh Joe,
he could have lied, oh yeah, we're gonna move past
that and moved on and say nah nah h.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
A dope, we're gonna make everybody figured about this week.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
One mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Guarantee you because you know, I know, I know what
Mike mcdame's gonna do. I know what he's gonna I
know what he gonna call. Coming at the gate week one,
they dialed up ten.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But see, that's where that's where you need leadership, because
look at the situation that we dealt with in at
Baltimore in two thousand. The offense went five weeks and
we didn't score touchdowns. It could have it could have
split us at the scenes. And the thing that really
helped me, Ray Woody. Two guys on defense, one guy
(08:22):
on offense. We were really close. We did everything together.
On the road, were in each other's room, laughing, talking.
We went out we always we always went out together.
We went to get something eat, we did that together.
And I just remember telling them, I said, you guys, y'all, y'all,
y'all are doing unbelievable. Y'all having a great season, historically
(08:43):
great season. I say, But the thing I loved about
football is they don't take great units to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They take teams. Yes, So I don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't care what y'all do if we don't start
doing our part right. But when we start doing our part,
don't you guys let down. We'll get what we have
to get fixed.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Just stayed, of course, and me being able to relay
that to Woody, to be able to relay that to
Rod excuse me, to a Ray and to let them
know that. Hey, and then you know, to tell Brian
bro I ain't tell anything. You don't know, but it
ain't getting done.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, when I think about that twenty teen y'all had.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, that defense was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Y'all didn't have to be as great as they did.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All, you know, be unfairy, had to have been unfair.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
All y'all had to do. Just meet him halfway, Just
meet him halfway. Give us, give us ten points. We'll
take your arrest.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hey, if we got, if we gotta, if we got
to tend enough to lead, oh, it was over for
you unless unless we fumbled and you got a scooping score.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You got to pick six.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
With Marvin Lewis, we started playing and Marvin would say, Shay,
give us ten.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I say ten. What we ain't about to get honest?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Ten? What Marvin said? I member were playing. We started playing.
Marvin say he give us ten. We got to the playoffs,
Marvin say give us seven. I say, Marvin, do you
realize what you saying, I said, Marvin, these teams in
the playoffs. He said, should give us seven and give
it to us early. We played the Raiders and that
(10:37):
we had a great deal. So Marvin was the DC.
Jack Dale Rial was the linebackers coach. Rex Ryan was
the D line coach. I think, uh, who is who
is our DV coach? I forget his name, but he
ended up going to be DC somewhere. But we were
(11:00):
old it. Were playing the Raiders in the championship game.
They said, give us seven, it's over. Sure, ra sug said, Shay,
y'all give us seven early at the half it's over.
I said, Ray, they number, they like the number one
scoring team in football. What you mean give them to
give us? Say, Shay, give us seven at the half.
(11:24):
I said, well, I'm good for Severn. You don't be
big play shake, oh big play, Sha good for seven?
I got that, Hey, I got that touchdown. I came
to the sideline like smoking Mama, told him make it work. Yeah,
this ain't nothing, smokers, ain't enough.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It ain't enough. She's ain't making enough.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Hey, was it running back in the Napoleon coffin back then?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, it was Charlie Gardner.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay, I forgot about Charlie.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I've got it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie Gardner. Nap uh, I don't think. I
don't think that Nappy was there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Then he was nice.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
He was nice too.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He had speed. Now you let him get outside. Now
you're gonna cause some problems for you. Yeah, he hit
us with about two hundred one one year at the Broncos.
But I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Say.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys
that are that's not really concerned about numbers or or
you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Win at a certain point in time. Bro, what.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Man, I don't care how much money you make. Man,
when you lose it, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Man. You man, you hate. I'm like, damn, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You ain't Joe and people people in chat You're not
thinking about a check. You're like, Man, I'm not hearing
this heat. I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here,
you know, with my body's aching. I'm hurting and we losing.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Hey, hold on, now you got to think about this. Now,
I was in Cincinnati eleven years, but ten you know
how many winning seasons I had in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
How many.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Maybe maybe what two?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
One?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
As might be able to be able to check me
on that. But there's a reason I chose to have
so much fun. There's a reason. How do I block
out the losing part?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can true, That's
all I can do. I know that two thousand and
five seasons, that was a winning season. We might have
had it, might have might have had two winter seasons,
maybe in your career or in Cincinnati. Cincinnati, Cincinnati is
my career.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What you mean you played in New England? You got
a year out there.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I don't count.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Man, that's all your resume. And guess what if you
go to the Hall, they're gonna put that on your plan.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No, I ain't going to the Hall. I put my
own jacket on.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That's okay. But if you were to, they're gonna put it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And everybody say, I guarantee you go to Wikipedia and
see if they got New England in there. Go to
pull up pull up a Chat, pull up Oh Joe
in Wikipedia and see if they mentioned anything about New England.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They will I bet they don't. I bet they do.
I don't even know that I don't know how to
get on Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't worry about it. I'll thin to get on there
for you. I better get on that for you. Oh
you might need to have him to take that spouse
thing off there. But that's neither here nor there right now.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
What is it saying? I ain't said nothing, but I'm saying.
Oh uh.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He played foot college at Santa Monica Co Sars.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's me. That's me, August State.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's me August State Beavers.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And he played for Cincinnati Bengals and the New England
Patriots during his tenure playing in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Hold on, what about then, you putting I played in Marcia, y'
all too.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Nope, they didn't put that up there.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
But I played in Mexico too. They ain't put that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh they did.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They said he Cincinnati Bings from two thousand and one
to twenty ten, the Patriots twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They got an asterisk by Miami.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But Madre Allen West in twenty fourteen and they're moder
rate in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
See see, you know what. I have the greatest career
of any any NFL player ever because I played in
the States. I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico.
Who else could say that?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Different?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Different member of He was a member of the Bengals
forty anniversary and fiftieth anniversary teams.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's b.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Y.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
See.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Hey, I was good because you know how good you
gotta you know how good you gotta be to play
in the States. You can play in the NFL, play
in Canada and Canada. Listen, I told you about my
experience in Canada. Ain't no way in hell some of
them fellas should be dowing in Canada. What I think
people look at the pay or the difference and think,
(16:14):
oh Canada, sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Man, man?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What was the Hey Cam Lake, who didn't have a
Miami had a guy that came out of Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
See, that's just that's just one of there. There are
a few examples of.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
People Doug Flutie, but there's so many more.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
The numbers, the politics, the opportunity. There are so many
players in Canada, like it almost irks my soul that
they didn't get the opportunity because there's no reason you
should be here. Every week we play somebody different. I've
seen maybe four or five guys. Why why are you here.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Doing oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
During Cowboys training camp, fans have been shouting at shouting
at Jerry and Stephen Jones. Pay Michael pay Michael. Steven
spoke to reporters. Somebody said, it doesn't change anything. We
want to pay Michael to He's gotta want to be paid.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Jerry also keeps calling Michael Michael Parsons, what you mean
got He want to get paid, but he don't want
to pay it. He don't want y'all to pay what
y'all want to pay him, because see y'all think y'all
will pay him at a discount, and he already told
you that it's gonna happen. The discount was two years ago.
(17:29):
It ain't now, because that was before you let Max
Crosby reset the market. That was before you let the
nail hunter reset the market. That was before you let
Miles Garrett reset the market, and that you let TJ.
Watt reset it again. That was before all of that. Now,
I don't know what y'all talking. We're at forty two
(17:50):
and a half. I don't know what you're talking. I
want to get paid right.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
As matter of fact, since you keep talking trash and
media in the news, and you're not calling me by
my right name. Make it forty three for.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
A good measure.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, you know what my mama named me, Michael, call
me Michael. You call me Michael too many times. Forty
four And as a matter of fact, since since Stephen
came out and said, oh, Michael gotta want to be
Michael got to want.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
To be paid forty five lying on me.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
He lied on me that man want to be paid,
but he ain't gona let y'all pay what y'all want
to pay it. Y'all always wait till the last minute.
Oh yo, Look, here's the thing. I promise you. It
is cheaper to get your car service than it is
to get it repaired.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Listen, whatever help.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, go ahead on your dad, it's Sunday. Come on,
I come on past them. It's eaven to get your
car service. It is to get it repaired. Now the
choice is your it, Michael. You could have you could
have serviced Michael. Now you gotta repair him, which means
(19:13):
you gotta make him hold.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
If I had, if I had a collections.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And that's the oh Joe, that's how it works. The
longer you let something go, the more it's gonna cost.
The price is not coming down on Michael. Did you
think the prices was coming down on Michael Parsons? The
guys A he won Defensive Rookie the year. He's a
three time first team All Pro. Now he didn't make
(19:45):
I don't think he made All Pro last year first team,
but he's a pro. He's been to the Pro Bowl
every single year. The price is only going up.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Because listen, I gotta get that penny pack because that
was that was a bar you give you. Hey, bring hey,
bring that, bring that. I gotta use that in my
next argument. Hey give me that line one more time.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's easy to get your car service that it is repaired.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the context and
when I'm gonna be able to use it, but I'm
gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh, you'll be able to use it. And that's the thing.
The man has been asking for a contract. But what
did Jared like to do? Wait until the umpteenth hour.
He waits until the upteenth hour, and then wonder why
Dak cracked him over his head both times?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Mm hmmm. Dak hit him on his head both times.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Dack with sixty I mean forty did he went to
sixty that say said.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Y'all make it it? Wait, get what don't call your
necktime Sydney mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Dan, because clearly, y'all they've been telling people for the longest,
we like Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We like Cooper Rush. Really, y'all like Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Huhy'all should have put him in play games if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Y'all should if y'all like Cooper, if you like Cooper
Rush as much as you said you did, you would
have never gave that sixty million.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They just they just talking on you understand who the
type of caliber quarterback that can carry your team or
at least give you a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And DK knew from the moment that Cooper Rush was
a free agent and not one person bit.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
DAK said, y'all, y'all stuck like Chuck.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But they know you know, the iron the sky don't lie,
oh all the all thirty one other teams they see
film too. They get to see film too, they do.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
They do.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You listens as owners and the GM and managers. You
could say what you want to verbally, but when you
turn the film on, if it don't match and it
don't align on what you say about a player. They
not going for that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, and every once in a while, out Joe, you
can go into the draft and you will find a
you get a Rustle in the third round, you'll get
a Dak Prescott in the fourth round. You're never gonna
get another Tom Brady in the sixth round. So stop looking.
Stop looking. That was that was the Hope diamond. You
found the Hope diamond. Yeah, so stop looking, but you did.
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Sometimes you can, you will be able to find you
a really good quarterback that's not a first round draft
pick or not a high draft pick. But without that
guy in today's game and the way the game is
set up today, the way they've handicapped the defense and
the way they've propped up the.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Offense, without that guy, you ain't winning. No, you're not.
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You can't play defense good enough to overcome inadequate quarterback
play correct.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
In today's game era, Absolutely not Listen, it could work.
It could work during our era. Yeah, you work doing
that era, you play defense, have a decent quarterback.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That quarterback nights running game.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
No disrespect the Bears when they played the Colts and
the identity for that Bears team was what their defense. Yes,
no disrespect the rec Grosserman, no, no disrespect.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But he was Rex Grossman going against Peyton Manning oh Man.
But that defense was unbelievable that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Year, and and the thing what happened, It started raining.
But if you go back and look, the Colts almost
ran for two hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Joseph Die, right, Joseph.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, it was Joseph Die and the what was the
other guy name, I forget his name, O Joe, But
they had a two headed monster.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That was that was that was the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But in today's game, the way the way they played today,
the way the rules are set up today.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You got to have a quarter ad.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You got to. You got to.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I don't I don't know what Jared's waiting on.
Maybe he thinks the price is gonna, you know, the
bottom is gonna drop out of this. It ain't dang
you mess around and let him have twenty sacks. What
you're gonna do and now you're gonna get you over
the here for fifty billion?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well how about what if he just plays it out
and go somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
But see to see again, that's where the nfl PA
should have come in because you got two franchise tags.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Damn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Now you see there you go prime example of why
I should be appointed the director of the nfl PA,
because that's that's one of the things I'm getting out.
Franchise tag. Okay, they got to go guarantee. Let's implement.
Let's implement guarantee contracts. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I want no franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I want help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I want lifetime health benefit.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, come on, now you think that, man, Listen, I might,
I might joke and laugh, but when it comes to
business and I put a suit in town, it's it's
a whole different ball game.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, they definitely need somebody that that that's that shrewd
understands the aspect of it, knowing that what was headed
down what's headed down the track in the next couple
of years. And then you know, you're reading all this
stuff about there might be some some criminality involved with this.
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It's just not it's it's not a good look for
the n f l p A. Now kind you kind
of understand kind of what it's been. It's been lacking
proper representation for lack of a better for lack of
a better word, O Jo, it's just hopefully, I hope,
because look, you and I don't benefit from it anything
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any anymore. No, but I just want the I want
the players that's now and the ones that's gonna be
coming in. I want them to get the maximum bang
for the buck.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
There's only one person that can do that for him,
the only one person that that that would not only
represent the players, but will represent the NFL p A.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I'm gonna put my name in the hat. Don't worry
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You're gonna put your name in hat.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Put my name in the hat. Most definitely, most definitely,
I mean who, who? Who better? Who better? Come on now?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Oh no, Joe, you ain't been keeping up or you
hain't been keeping up on things like keeping up.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I do my homework now, don't don't. Don't let it
look a few laughs and little jokes, you know, throw
you off your game.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I just I'm I'm i'm, I'm, I'm I'm hip. My eyes,
my eyes can see, my ears can help, my nose,
I can smell.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I want Michael to get paid.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Now, you're gonna get paid. I don't like the fact
that they're allowing all these days to go by and
he's not practicing, and when he does get paid, he's
going from zero to a hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, hopefully don't have anything, you know, knock on with him,
Have any because you know what normally happens soft tissue.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yes, because the body, the body has to get used
to the pushing, the pulling, the tugging, the ripping, the
just ah, man makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It doesn't. It doesn't because I mean, if I'm Mike,
I'm thinking, like, Bro, what do I have to do?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Man?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I've done everything right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All pro I've been to the Pro Bowl every year.
I've had double digit sacks every year. I've done everything
that you've asked me to be. I've been a model citizen.
As far as we know, he hadn't run a file,
hadn't been any trouble off the field. I've done everything
that you've asked. I've been a model citizen. I've been
a great representation representation for this ball club. And now
it's my turn. Yeah, it is my turn. You know,
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Dak had his turn, CD had his turn, Trayvon Diggs
had his turn, still had his turn. Now it's my
turn at some point in time, Jared, you got to
be ahead of the curve. You always fall behind the curve,
and that's why you gotta pay so much.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You falling behind the curve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You either, oh Joe, you either you either head of
the curve or you're in the curve. Because if you
fall behind it, you're behind. Now you gotta pay extra
catch up.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But this is a problem when someone doesn't see anything
wrong with the way they do things, there's no reason
to change. There's no reason to change. If I did
it to everybody else, what makes Micah any different. I
did it Jack, I did it to see that ceed Lamb.
I did it the others in the past, long before
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these players were even born. I've been doing it my
way for a very long time. Yeah, down for what
because winning is not my ultimate goal. It's making a
profit and continue to remain the most profitable franchise.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I mean, but I mean, look, you let one
of your greatest defensive players go for nothing, de Marcus
where because you thought he was done. All he did
was go to Denver to win the Super Bowl and
play and play at an all proper and play at
an all pro level until he was done, So clearly.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're doing something right.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, I just like I said, you know it's tough,
but I mean you miss miss miscalling the guy's name.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean, he's just been there five years, that's all.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You're doing that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think he's doing it. No, I don't think
he's doing it on purpose. Man, Jerry Old.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
He ain't that old not to know his star player's
name on defense.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know the mold people be called man. My girlma
ain't never called me by my real name. My granddaddy
gave my brother names Fanky because he couldn't say Sterling, right,
so he gave the name he could a Fanky. Uh No,
I mean to like I said, maybe it's I mean, Michael, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's never been Michael. It's been Michael. Everybody knows the
man's names. The question what if?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
What if Michael is short for Michael and we didn't
even know that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think his name is michaeh.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Okay, Okay, I'm just I'm just I'm just now.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Normally Mike is short for Michael, not michaeh.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, But.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Maybe they'll let's let you know what, don't you know,
we we got Google. Maybe, Yeah, he ain't mentioned I
ain't never heard him see it though.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, we might want to fact check back because nobody
knew Chad was short for Chadwick.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Michael Aaron Parsons.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Hey, his middle name Eron because what I just said, Yes, okay,
listen is Mama named him Eron. I'm calling him Eron
from from now on.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And he just turned twenty six years of age in May, Okay,
So yeah, I don't know what that's about, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The NFL plans to find more than one hundred players
in roughly two dozen club employees who were found to
be in violation of the NFL Tickets Reseale policy for
reselling Super Bowl tickets at a profit. Under agreement between
the league and NFL Players Association, players who violated rules
will be fined one and a half times the face
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value of the ticket and lose their lot of tickets
to the next two Super Bowls. If they're playing in
the game, players will have a chance to purchase seats.
Those are who declined punishment could be suspended by Commissioner
Roger Gooddell.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Oh but that's tough. That's tough, you know. It's unfortunate
for those players. But I don't mean to say it,
but that's been going on for a very long time.
But you hear, and I'm not telling you what I heard.
I'm telling you what I know. And we talk about players,
you know, we talk about even those that are that
sitting higher positions have always sold their tickets for profit.
This is nothing new. I think the way the clamp
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down on it, maybe it's getting out of control now
based on what the players are making from a profitable standpoint.
But with the money they making these days, the players
that is probably sending the tickets, or those that don't
make as much as others. If if you understand what
I'm saying, I do.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I think the thing is, oh chose.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Look the reason why they increased face value of the
tickets because they find out they will scalf for them.
And they said, well, if you're gonna pay five thousand
dollars on the resale, we might as well go and
put them at five thousand face value. If you're gonna
pay that on the secondary market, you might as well
play this on the primary market. And so and plus
you have to understand, y'all, do realize the NFL know
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the lot number, the seat, the seating section, they know
all of.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
That, everything, every everything, But this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's so funny they're cracking down on that. O yo.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Every Super Bowl though, this has been going on every
Super Bowl, but who knows how long, even when I
I'm sure you were playing absolutely Why are they cracking
down on it this year specifically? Why all of a sudden,
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Cousin you man, you're getting the FBI involved because people
ain't paying taxes because at the end of the day,
are it's gonna want they cut?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
O' yo. See that's that's where you run a file at.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, because you sold something, Okay, Uncles Sam said where
my cut?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Right? Oh right? Yeah, Uncles saying I'm gonna want his cut.
And the NFL has been trying to crack down on this.
They look, you want to go to the game, That says, look,
you might as well just go ahead and come through
us and pay I think the face value ticket when
I I was playing with probably three twenty five, four
hundred they got face value tickets, not probably the cheapest
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ticket to get in probably fifteen hundred and two thousand
and then it goes from there two thousand, three thirty
five hundred four thousand, fifty yard line seats. I mean, obviously,
you know, if you get a sweet might be anywhere
from a million to two and a half million dollars
considering where it's positioned on the field.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Because I kind of saw the direction once they started
up in the prices to what the resellers were getting
for saying said tickets. So I'm really I'm really not surprised,
o Jo that they're gonna crack down, because look, NFL
is a business.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Always has been, and it's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
If you run a restaurant, if you don't cleanse, keep
a closed tab, somebody, they're gonna give your alcohol and
they're gonna give your food away because they're gonna have
their homeboys or their homegirl come sit at the bar
and they're gonna drink for free. Yes, And they gonna
come in there and they're gonna get they're gonna get
meals and they're gonna get that for free. And if
you're not careful, they'll be giving some of your prime
good stuff out the back door. So the NFL says
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you know what, we're fin the crack down on this now.
We don't let it slide. And we probably they probably
told them about you. You know, they first come around at
the beginning of the year a.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Little bit now, and they thought they had a little
bit more seasoned on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, y'all getting
out of control.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Because they're like, hold on, man, Kansas City, ooh, going
for the three peak.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh them tinking back? Whoa man they got? They got
the Eagles, Jaylen hurts.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
You could double charge that. You can go for double maybe.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, yeah, So you're probably selling those and you know,
you got good.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Seats, especially if you if you, if you and if
you're one of the teams that are in it, you
got great seats at least uh eight of the fifteen
because I think I think they gave you know, you
got it, you got two comps and then you got
it you bought the other thirteen. Eight were really good
seats and then seven. I mean, look, you're in the
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super Bowl, so they they like they was way way
up there, but they were they were decent seats. But
you can you know, but things are different now, o yo,
things are different than that. I think the biggest thing
that I will say is that time changes. You must
be willing to adapt to the changing of the times.
You can't say like you and that we came up
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man ojo. They've been doing this from the beginning of
the time.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yet it did. But they're cracking down on it now.
And they're cracking your head because.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
They tried to what they tried to do, Oho, It
used to be you could like, hey, man, you're going
you're using your Super Bowl tickets? Nah? Hey can I
give them? Hey such and such a give my ticke,
give my two super Bow tickets to Oho.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Let them back.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They can pick them up too, They can go pick
them up.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Remember, now they don't put a situation where like you
got to come pick the tickets up.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They won't let They don't let you transform as easily.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
And you know, it used to be where I believe
your ticket, that will call Nah.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
They don't do that anymore. So basic you got to
have the tickets in hand. Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well no, they digitally Where they used to have you know,
you had to have tickets in hand. Now they mainly
do it digitally scan and they don't want you transferring
the tickets.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So and I get you right.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The guys probably some of the guys that are doing this,
they're not the guys that's making twenty thirty forty million
dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They're probably guys that get you know, you know, or
the practice squad.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, trying to make a treat to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Pay you know, little eighteen little eighteen thousand dollars for
two tickets.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Quick, that good little that will hold me?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Oh oh joe, quick, quick and listen you and people
have to understand too when you think about the NFL
or how the hell they know what players did it
the tickets they now know only do they know the tickets?
They know everything, yes, everything. They know what everybody is
doing on all thirty two teams, who they hang with,
where they live, where they spend, where they go, where
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they shut down everything. Do people understand the NFL does
their homework so legitily. Well, now before you make it,
even while you're still in it. Man, they went back
and talked to my elementary teacher. My elementary teacher. Why
are you talking to my elementary teacher about what I
did in elementary? I wasn't even the same chad back then.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They also oo like tickets, well, That's why if you
have season tickets, you gotta be careful who you let
sit in those seats because they act a food. Not
only do they throw them out, now they take your
season tickets. Remember how the Detroit fan. Who that the
Detroit fan that got into it and they took it
season tickets.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
M Oh that's right, that's right, screaming at the coach.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Screaming yes, yes, yes, So they know because they got
it alloted. Okay, the Cincinnati Bengals, they got this a
lot bit of tickets. These are where the section that
the Bengal tickets are going to be. This is where
the Bronco tickets will be. This is where Green Bay,
this is where this one. There's where that one. So
they know, Yeah, at this point in time, now, guys,
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it's just not worth it. Uh, And I get it.
Try to pick up your a little extra quick cash
because you get off seven tickets. You're probably looking at it,
you know, and the problem is you're running into oh Joe,
it's ours because you're taking cash and you're not paying
taxes on that money. I under saying I want is cut. Yeah,
(39:24):
I'm just saying. It's just like anything alcohol. When they
found out they could tax it. Now, all of a sudden,
you didn't need the bootleg cigarettes. Once they could find
out how to tax it, you didn't need a you
didn't a You didn't need to smuggle them weed once
they found out they can tax it. Yes, sir, you
see what they did with it. Now, if y'all were
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just come on saying, AUNCS said, I sold you for
seventy heirs, you're thirty five. Uncle SAMs said, do what
you do, but you're gonna cut he eat a cut
me in and cut it out. He say that cut
me in, a cut it out. That Joe Joey cutting
me here, the cutting.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Out like that.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I gotta say that like that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Oh Joe, you know how it is, Uncle Sam.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It don't matter how small man man what Uncle Sam
want thirty five dollars? Fuck the same reason you want
to hold thirty five. He wanted to see the team
in a half. He meant, you're gonna get it there.
Don't play with Uncle Sam. Now you can play with
a lot of people. Don't play with him.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Oh listen.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Them.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
People don't play you hit me, No.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
They don't it a A I done got audited it
for a dollar. Yeah I got, I got added one time,
oh Joe, And the envelope that is said it there,
it costs more than what I what I owed.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It was just the principle of the matter, right right, right, right, man.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
No, don't play with them people buy that money cut
because a lot of time they know everything because every
what you got in your account and they'll let that
interest draw. Now the thing that you will have to
learn about Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam is never gonna give
you the interest on your money when he late.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
That he's gonna charge you for when you late.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, so he already know and they'll let that thing go.
Say oh man, now he can't pay. Let me come
on in, let me make an example out of him,
because they want the high profile. Because if they get
the high profile, it's like, well, hell, he had millions
and they did something bad to him, what they're gonna
do to me? Go ahead, just go ahead and pay
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them people their money. Leave uncle Sam alone because Uncle
Sam don't play by his But I'm not surprised that
they took this because I kind of being close to
the situation and hearing, kind of felt they were kind
of headed this heading in this direction. Yes, I remember
when they implemented this oho they were going to the
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three and the two, and the three and the four
thousand dollars face value ticket, the ten thousand dollars face
value tickets because they found out people was willing.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
To pay that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, they say, man, why they charge man, why they
charge ten thousand dollars for some chrome hard jeans?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Because people are paid for it.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
That's why the same reason they charge one thousand dollars
for a steak, people are paying for it.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And if people are paid for it, there'll be somebody
there to provide whatever service is needed. You want a tank, Yeah,
I need a tank. It's gonna cost you five get
me the tank. You need a bozooka, you need a missile.
Whatever you need, somebody will will be able to fill
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that need. Man, Oh Joe, I need you on the
Super Bowl tickets. Okay, Hey, man, such and such need
two on the Super Bowl tickets. Well, let me go
to a couple of different teams. Boom boom, boom, boom
boo boom. I got you right. NFL said, Nah, we're
gonna do away with this. If you want to go
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watch one of our one of our events, you're gonna
have to You're gonna have to come through. You're gonna
have to come through us. You have to pay because.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
All that all that, all that value and that money
that's being made is going back to them, Yes, back
to them.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
How you think they paid each team four hundred thirty
two million, six hundred thousand, and you would think, like, man,
what the NFL care about five thousand, ten thousand and
fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Because it adds up. It all adds up, no matter
how small it is, it adds up.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Pennies make dollars. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
You ain't got to tell me twice.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, if it make dollars, it makes sense with a
C and with a S.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
So yeah, but I'm not surprised that they're taking this
and I'm glad they kept it anonymous. You don't know,
because if it's somebody bad, the last thing you will
owe your is somebody that's making uh fifty million and
they selling two two bow chakets for twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Hopefully they get this thing resolved and you see, you know, hey,
they know everything, they know everything they know about the
gambling because they're gonna turn look the draft, Kings and
the and the bets and this and that. They want
to be able to still be able to bet on
football and basketball and baseball. If you think for one
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second they're not gonna turn your ass in.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
EF phone numbers, emails, anything tracking back to.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You and any irregularities, because that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Hey, why do the man keep beating the unknown?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
No boy, man? Why he man? He ain't finished the
game yet? Let me make know of that day they
who something ain't adding up?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Before Aaron Rodgers signed with the Steelers, former Steelers great
quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback Terry Bradshaw called the move
a joke. Terry added, what are you gonna do? Bring
him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That
guy needs to stay in California. Go somewhere You on
bark and whisper to the gods out there. Rogers responded
this week, saying I whispered to the gods every single day.
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He's got an idea of what he thinks about me
based on what I've done, the documentary, What Sad, what said,
darkness Retreat? Whatever the hell you want to talk about.
I love to get to know Terry on a deeper level.
I feel like he gave me a chance to get
to know him. Then we have a good friendship, O Joe.
Honest assessment. What do you you expect from Aaron Rodgers
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this year? And what do you expect from the Steelers
this year?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Listen, Aaron Rodgers only has to do one thing, facilitate
the ball and do his best not to make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
That's all he has to do.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
You got DK, That's one nice target defensively of where
the Steelers are going to win football games. We just
need Aaron Rodgers to manage the games and be a
game manager, a moniker that most people see as an insult,
which it is not, and don't turn the ball over.
Defense will take care of the rest because that's where
the Steelers' identity is now from now on.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, the best players on that side of the ball.
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
And if we slashes, if we can give flashes and
brilliants of the old Aaron Rodgers, so be it, thank you.
But the people on offense are going to have to
be the one to uplift Aaron Rodgers because he's not
the same quarterback he used to be. Where he can
up lift everyone else around him. It's completely opposite.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Now I agree with you. I agreed everything that you said.
Look at their best player. They're on that side of
the ball, that did side of the ball. You look
at TJ. Watt, you look at Cam Hayward, you look
at Jalen Ramsey, you look at Darius Slay, Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Their best players are on that side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Now crazy, and so Aaron just needs to be And
Aaron has never been a heavy turnover guy. He threw
double digit interceptions, but that's not normally Aaron's I think
he only has a maybe two or three seasons in
which he's had double digit turnover interceptions. He's We've seen
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him throw four interceptions over the course of a season.
We've seen him throw five interceptions, six interceptions over the
course of the season. He's normally very very good with
the ball. And that is the Aaron Rodgers. They need
the old Aaron Rodgers, not an old Aaron Rodgers. And
if he can give them that, give them that level
of consistency, I think they're gonna be in every game.
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If you think you're gonna just go in there and
blow the doors off them.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That ain't gonna happen, Gona, it ain't happening. I know that,
I listen.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I know the names look good on paper, but all
the players that they've acquired are proven not on paper
but on the field. So you get those type of
players Jayalen Ramsey and Daris Slaves, the Joey Porters Jr.
Who is very very good, who doesn't get deserves because
everything is always talked about from an offrom the standpoint,
especially referring to the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
You got t J.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Watt camp Man. Listen, they gonna and that is going
to have them in games. We just need Aaron Rodgers,
not the bottle it. They're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Do you believe the Steelers will accept him?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, because that listens. They're not there to make friends.
We're not here to make frans.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Were accept winn.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
We listen, We're here to do one thing. We got
one singular focus, win and do the best we can.
They have a good record, a decent enough record to
make it to the playoffs, and from that point on,
we know it's full games. After that, right, that's all
it is. It becomes a new season four games? Can
we get to that point?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Well, the Steelers have gone to the playoffs, but they
haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. I think
that was the year that they ended up beating think
they beat Kansas City. Remember they went to Kansas City
and le'veyon had that outstanding game and they ended up
winning that game. But I don't if I'm not mistaken,
I could be wrong, So chat don't hold that against me.
But I don't think they won a playoff game since
twenty sixteen. That's almost been ten years. Oh Joe for
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the Steelers. Yeah, it's the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
That's the funny thing about it is they haven't it's
been ten years, but they've had winning seasons and since
that's how hard it is to get into the playoffs
when you're in that AFC, especially that damn division will in.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah. Look, I think the thing is is that Ry. Look,
these guys like Terry, Terror's way over mine. Terry was
the number one overroad draft pick in nineteen seventy. Kell
I was born in sixty eight, so two years after
I was born, Terry was you know, I came in
the league in ninety. So there is at least what
Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make ocho. Tua looks
to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after the weeks
Week eighteen outbursts.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Take a listen to what Tua had to say.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You
know a lot of people that follow football, that follow
the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his.
Everyone has seen that. So when you say something like that,
it's you don't just come back from that with hey
my bad, Now you got you gotta work that that
relationship up. You got to build everything up again. And
(00:46):
yeah that it's still a work in progress, not just
for me but for everybody. But now, like I said,
he's he's working on himself. He's working on the things
that he say. You know, he says he wants to
get better with UH and do better on so UH.
That's the first step to me, and so I commend
him for doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Not one lit told yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Can you refresh the people that are that are watching,
the people that are listening what he's referring to though,
because he said something, but the people might need context
if they don't remember what Tyreek said at the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, I can't give you ver Beta, but I think
he said something that he might be looking to get
out of here because he liked the winning and you know,
he got to do what's in the best interest for him.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Uh, things of that nature. He said a lot of
stuff he.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Did, But I think also I love what I love
what Too said. Obviously publicly two is going to have
his receiver's back, but also hold his receiver accountable and
he should everything he said. Also with for me as
a as a football player, a former player, understanding the
frustrations that the receiver would have, who've had a down
(01:55):
season for the first time, who's not used to having
a lackluster season like that. The frustrations build up, the inconsistency.
All right, I'm not used to this, So what's the
first thing you do? You vent about not actually wanting
to be in that situation anymore and seeing that whatever
method Tyrankle trying to do and trying to maybe find
a way to get out of Miami and find some
world scope, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever it
(02:17):
may be. It didn't work out that way through the Now,
I can't take what I said back. All I can
do is work on myself, apologize to my teammates, apologize
to my quarterback and my coaches. And there's one way
to make them forget about everything is do what you
do best, catching touchdowns. That's catching passes and working your
ass off. And that's three things that he already does,
(02:38):
which is why he's one of the best at what
he does now in the game. I think it's gonna
be fine.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Sometimes when you're angry, O Joe, Yeah, and I get it,
And I hate that, I really do. I hate when
guys get angry and they don't speak to the media. Yeah,
because when you score fifty, there's never a time when
somebody drop fifty in the NBA, they didn't speak to
the media. There's never a time when somebody had one
hundred and fifty two hundred two three touchdowns they didn't
(03:06):
speak to the media. But the moment you get a
little frustrated, you don't want to speak to the media.
But in certain situations, if it's a situation where you
so upset and the words that come out of your
mouth might do irreparable harm.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Go ahead chalking them. Say Hey, I can't speak right now.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
But what did you What's you're saying? When emotions are high, logic.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Is logic is low. And that's why I said, you
know what, and I get up.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I want you to good, batter and different because you
make the same money. It ain't like so you know
why I had a bad game. Oh yo, so oh
Cho had a bad game. Oh yo, only had four
for fifty yards. Well, o Jo, we're gonna give you
four for fifty yards money. O Cho had ten for
two sixty Okay, now, oh Choe, we're gonna give you
ten for two sixty money.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You make the same either way. But we are human. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There were times, man, I spoke to the media after
the game. I'm seething because I know we had some
guys that didn't play like they were supposed to, and
sometimes I was one of those guys.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Oh same, same, Listen, I can remember my games where
I played bad.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'm about vividly, yes, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Tell the media, I gotta do better. Yeah, John's job
is to throw it. My job is to catch it. Well,
if he's throwing it, I ain't catch it. I ain't
doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down.
I like the fact that to have acknowledge what he
said because a lot of times, oh man, know, hey,
(04:40):
we know how guys are so far the song that's
our brother.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That lets me know that what he said not only
bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room.
And they had a conversation with time. They talked to
Tyrek about this.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah. Absolutely, they talked to Tyrek about this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I like that old Joe because you know, sometimes,
oh Joe, they tried to gloss it over. Man, you know,
it ain't that big of a deal. Oh, absolutely bad please.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And there's only one person that can get away with
saying that, and that was the quarterback. That's the only
one that's the only person because it all fact all
falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay, my numbers
on what they used to be and anything that Tyreek
says at the end of the season, who they gonna
point the finger at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Quarterback? Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
But Tyreek knows what he has to do. I looked
at Tyreek's body this year compared to what it was
last year.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He looked ten to fifteen pounds lighter.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I told you, I told you what it looked like.
They God damn workout. Why that work out? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Look look the thing you thought, Joe. He's already so explosive.
Even if he leaves a step, you's still fast than
anybody else else.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Hey, completely, it is crazy. And you know what, the
fact he didn't lose the step because he just ran
a goddamn ten to one last month, what do we what?
And he's not even training to run track? How you
you're not even track training and you ran a ten one.
Imagine if he was in track shape or had track
technique or got track coaching, that that ten and one
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dropped down on nine eight nine nine.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, he might definitely get this. He probably get the
ten easy easy.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Come on, man, he's gonna be. He gonna be alright, though,
he's gonna be gonna be.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But he just like, look, you gotta realize where he
came from. See, they never had these problems in Kansas City.
So Tyreek k used to this. Tyree used to be
my homeboy being there, and so he used to like knowing. Okay,
now granted, now his first couple of years in Miami,
he's number one, he's gonna get all the ball blah
blah blah now and in Kansas City, you know, he
(06:50):
had to split that with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins or
maybe someone else, but he knew he's gonna get X
and he knew Mahomes was going to be there. Right,
It's hard no matter how great you are. Look, only
DeAndre Hopkins can just go through quarterbacks and still put.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Up Pro Bowl, All Pro numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And you know who else did it? God damn Andre Johnson.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah. Yeah, he had a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Carousel as well, and for some reproduction didn't even matter
regardless who's got that throwing it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so I'm happy, uh that he said Tyreek is working,
But like you said, it takes time. And see, oh Joe,
he could have lied, oh yeah, we're gonna move past
that and moved on and say nah nah h.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
A dope, we're gonna make everybody figured about this week.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
One mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Guarantee you because you know, I know, I know what
Mike mcdame's gonna do. I know what he's gonna I
know what he gonna call. Coming at the gate week one,
they dialed up ten.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But see, that's where that's where you need leadership, because
look at the situation that we dealt with in at
Baltimore in two thousand. The offense went five weeks and
we didn't score touchdowns. It could have it could have
split us at the scenes. And the thing that really
helped me, Ray Woody. Two guys on defense, one guy
(08:22):
on offense. We were really close. We did everything together.
On the road, were in each other's room, laughing, talking.
We went out we always we always went out together.
We went to get something eat, we did that together.
And I just remember telling them, I said, you guys, y'all, y'all,
y'all are doing unbelievable. Y'all having a great season, historically
(08:43):
great season. I say, But the thing I loved about
football is they don't take great units to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They take teams. Yes, So I don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't care what y'all do if we don't start
doing our part right. But when we start doing our part,
don't you guys let down. We'll get what we have
to get fixed.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Just stayed, of course, and me being able to relay
that to Woody, to be able to relay that to
Rod excuse me, to a Ray and to let them
know that. Hey, and then you know, to tell Brian
bro I ain't tell anything. You don't know, but it
ain't getting done.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, when I think about that twenty teen y'all had.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, that defense was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Y'all didn't have to be as great as they did.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
All, you know, be unfairy, had to have been unfair.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
All y'all had to do. Just meet him halfway, Just
meet him halfway. Give us, give us ten points. We'll
take your arrest.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hey, if we got, if we gotta, if we got
to tend enough to lead, oh, it was over for
you unless unless we fumbled and you got a scooping score.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You got to pick six.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
With Marvin Lewis, we started playing and Marvin would say, Shay,
give us ten.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I say ten. What we ain't about to get honest?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Ten? What Marvin said? I member were playing. We started playing.
Marvin say he give us ten. We got to the playoffs,
Marvin say give us seven. I say, Marvin, do you
realize what you saying, I said, Marvin, these teams in
the playoffs. He said, should give us seven and give
it to us early. We played the Raiders and that
(10:37):
we had a great deal. So Marvin was the DC.
Jack Dale Rial was the linebackers coach. Rex Ryan was
the D line coach. I think, uh, who is who
is our DV coach? I forget his name, but he
ended up going to be DC somewhere. But we were
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old it. Were playing the Raiders in the championship game.
They said, give us seven, it's over. Sure, ra sug said, Shay,
y'all give us seven early at the half it's over.
I said, Ray, they number, they like the number one
scoring team in football. What you mean give them to
give us? Say, Shay, give us seven at the half.
(11:24):
I said, well, I'm good for Severn. You don't be
big play shake, oh big play, Sha good for seven?
I got that, Hey, I got that touchdown. I came
to the sideline like smoking Mama, told him make it work. Yeah,
this ain't nothing, smokers, ain't enough.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It ain't enough. She's ain't making enough.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Hey, was it running back in the Napoleon coffin back then?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, it was Charlie Gardner.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay, I forgot about Charlie.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I've got it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie Gardner. Nap uh, I don't think. I
don't think that Nappy was there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Then he was nice.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
He was nice too.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
He had speed. Now you let him get outside. Now
you're gonna cause some problems for you. Yeah, he hit
us with about two hundred one one year at the Broncos.
But I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Say.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys
that are that's not really concerned about numbers or or
you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Win at a certain point in time. Bro, what.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Man, I don't care how much money you make. Man,
when you lose it, it sucks.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Man. You man, you hate. I'm like, damn, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You ain't Joe and people people in chat You're not
thinking about a check. You're like, Man, I'm not hearing
this heat. I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here,
you know, with my body's aching. I'm hurting and we losing.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Hey, hold on, now you got to think about this. Now,
I was in Cincinnati eleven years, but ten you know
how many winning seasons I had in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
How many.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Maybe maybe what two?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
One?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
As might be able to be able to check me
on that. But there's a reason I chose to have
so much fun. There's a reason. How do I block
out the losing part?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can true, That's
all I can do. I know that two thousand and
five seasons, that was a winning season. We might have
had it, might have might have had two winter seasons,
maybe in your career or in Cincinnati. Cincinnati, Cincinnati is
my career.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What you mean you played in New England? You got
a year out there.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I don't count.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Man, that's all your resume. And guess what if you
go to the Hall, they're gonna put that on your plan.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
No, I ain't going to the Hall. I put my
own jacket on.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That's okay. But if you were to, they're gonna put it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And everybody say, I guarantee you go to Wikipedia and
see if they got New England in there. Go to
pull up pull up a Chat, pull up Oh Joe
in Wikipedia and see if they mentioned anything about New England.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
They will I bet they don't. I bet they do.
I don't even know that I don't know how to
get on Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't worry about it. I'll thin to get on there
for you. I better get on that for you. Oh
you might need to have him to take that spouse
thing off there. But that's neither here nor there right now.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
What is it saying? I ain't said nothing, but I'm saying.
Oh uh.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He played foot college at Santa Monica Co Sars.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's me. That's me, August State.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's me August State Beavers.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And he played for Cincinnati Bengals and the New England
Patriots during his tenure playing in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Hold on, what about then, you putting I played in Marcia, y'
all too.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Nope, they didn't put that up there.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
But I played in Mexico too. They ain't put that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh they did.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They said he Cincinnati Bings from two thousand and one
to twenty ten, the Patriots twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They got an asterisk by Miami.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But Madre Allen West in twenty fourteen and they're moder
rate in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
See see, you know what. I have the greatest career
of any any NFL player ever because I played in
the States. I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico.
Who else could say that?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Different?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Different member of He was a member of the Bengals
forty anniversary and fiftieth anniversary teams.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's b.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Y.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
See.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Hey, I was good because you know how good you
gotta you know how good you gotta be to play
in the States. You can play in the NFL, play
in Canada and Canada. Listen, I told you about my
experience in Canada. Ain't no way in hell some of
them fellas should be dowing in Canada. What I think
people look at the pay or the difference and think,
(16:14):
oh Canada, sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Man, man?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What was the Hey Cam Lake, who didn't have a
Miami had a guy that came out of Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
See, that's just that's just one of there. There are
a few examples of.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
People Doug Flutie, but there's so many more.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
The numbers, the politics, the opportunity. There are so many
players in Canada, like it almost irks my soul that
they didn't get the opportunity because there's no reason you
should be here. Every week we play somebody different. I've
seen maybe four or five guys. Why why are you here.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Doing oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
During Cowboys training camp, fans have been shouting at shouting
at Jerry and Stephen Jones. Pay Michael pay Michael. Steven
spoke to reporters. Somebody said, it doesn't change anything. We
want to pay Michael to He's gotta want to be paid.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Jerry also keeps calling Michael Michael Parsons, what you mean
got He want to get paid, but he don't want
to pay it. He don't want y'all to pay what
y'all want to pay him, because see y'all think y'all
will pay him at a discount, and he already told
you that it's gonna happen. The discount was two years ago.
(17:29):
It ain't now, because that was before you let Max
Crosby reset the market. That was before you let the
nail hunter reset the market. That was before you let
Miles Garrett reset the market, and that you let TJ.
Watt reset it again. That was before all of that. Now,
I don't know what y'all talking. We're at forty two
(17:50):
and a half. I don't know what you're talking. I
want to get paid right.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
As matter of fact, since you keep talking trash and
media in the news, and you're not calling me by
my right name. Make it forty three for.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
A good measure.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, you know what my mama named me, Michael, call
me Michael. You call me Michael too many times. Forty
four And as a matter of fact, since since Stephen
came out and said, oh, Michael gotta want to be
Michael got to want.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
To be paid forty five lying on me.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
He lied on me that man want to be paid,
but he ain't gona let y'all pay what y'all want
to pay it. Y'all always wait till the last minute.
Oh yo, Look, here's the thing. I promise you. It
is cheaper to get your car service than it is
to get it repaired.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Listen, whatever help.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, go ahead on your dad, it's Sunday. Come on,
I come on past them. It's eaven to get your
car service. It is to get it repaired. Now the
choice is your it, Michael. You could have you could
have serviced Michael. Now you gotta repair him, which means
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you gotta make him hold.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
If I had, if I had a collections.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And that's the oh Joe, that's how it works. The
longer you let something go, the more it's gonna cost.
The price is not coming down on Michael. Did you
think the prices was coming down on Michael Parsons? The
guys A he won Defensive Rookie the year. He's a
three time first team All Pro. Now he didn't make
(19:45):
I don't think he made All Pro last year first team,
but he's a pro. He's been to the Pro Bowl
every single year. The price is only going up.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Because listen, I gotta get that penny pack because that
was that was a bar you give you. Hey, bring hey,
bring that, bring that. I gotta use that in my
next argument. Hey give me that line one more time.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's easy to get your car service that it is repaired.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the context and
when I'm gonna be able to use it, but I'm
gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh, you'll be able to use it. And that's the thing.
The man has been asking for a contract. But what
did Jared like to do? Wait until the umpteenth hour.
He waits until the upteenth hour, and then wonder why
Dak cracked him over his head both times?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Mm hmmm. Dak hit him on his head both times.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Dack with sixty I mean forty did he went to
sixty that say said.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Y'all make it it? Wait, get what don't call your
necktime Sydney mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Dan, because clearly, y'all they've been telling people for the longest,
we like Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We like Cooper Rush. Really, y'all like Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Huhy'all should have put him in play games if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Y'all should if y'all like Cooper, if you like Cooper
Rush as much as you said you did, you would
have never gave that sixty million.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They just they just talking on you understand who the
type of caliber quarterback that can carry your team or
at least give you a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And DK knew from the moment that Cooper Rush was
a free agent and not one person bit.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
DAK said, y'all, y'all stuck like Chuck.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But they know you know, the iron the sky don't lie,
oh all the all thirty one other teams they see
film too. They get to see film too, they do.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
They do.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You listens as owners and the GM and managers. You
could say what you want to verbally, but when you
turn the film on, if it don't match and it
don't align on what you say about a player. They
not going for that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, and every once in a while, out Joe, you
can go into the draft and you will find a
you get a Rustle in the third round, you'll get
a Dak Prescott in the fourth round. You're never gonna
get another Tom Brady in the sixth round. So stop looking.
Stop looking. That was that was the Hope diamond. You
found the Hope diamond. Yeah, so stop looking, but you did.
(22:16):
Sometimes you can, you will be able to find you
a really good quarterback that's not a first round draft
pick or not a high draft pick. But without that
guy in today's game and the way the game is
set up today, the way they've handicapped the defense and
the way they've propped up the.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Offense, without that guy, you ain't winning. No, you're not.
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You can't play defense good enough to overcome inadequate quarterback
play correct.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
In today's game era, Absolutely not Listen, it could work.
It could work during our era. Yeah, you work doing
that era, you play defense, have a decent quarterback.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That quarterback nights running game.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
No disrespect the Bears when they played the Colts and
the identity for that Bears team was what their defense. Yes,
no disrespect the rec Grosserman, no, no disrespect.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But he was Rex Grossman going against Peyton Manning oh Man.
But that defense was unbelievable that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Year, and and the thing what happened, It started raining.
But if you go back and look, the Colts almost
ran for two hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Joseph Die, right, Joseph.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, it was Joseph Die and the what was the
other guy name, I forget his name, O Joe, But
they had a two headed monster.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That was that was that was the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But in today's game, the way the way they played today,
the way the rules are set up today.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You got to have a quarter ad.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You got to. You got to.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I don't I don't know what Jared's waiting on.
Maybe he thinks the price is gonna, you know, the
bottom is gonna drop out of this. It ain't dang
you mess around and let him have twenty sacks. What
you're gonna do and now you're gonna get you over
the here for fifty billion?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well how about what if he just plays it out
and go somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
But see to see again, that's where the nfl PA
should have come in because you got two franchise tags.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Damn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Now you see there you go prime example of why
I should be appointed the director of the nfl PA,
because that's that's one of the things I'm getting out.
Franchise tag. Okay, they got to go guarantee. Let's implement.
Let's implement guarantee contracts. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I want no franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I want help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I want lifetime health benefit.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, come on, now you think that, man, Listen, I might,
I might joke and laugh, but when it comes to
business and I put a suit in town, it's it's
a whole different ball game.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, they definitely need somebody that that that's that shrewd
understands the aspect of it, knowing that what was headed
down what's headed down the track in the next couple
of years. And then you know, you're reading all this
stuff about there might be some some criminality involved with this.
(25:32):
It's just not it's it's not a good look for
the n f l p A. Now kind you kind
of understand kind of what it's been. It's been lacking
proper representation for lack of a better for lack of
a better word, O Jo, it's just hopefully, I hope,
because look, you and I don't benefit from it anything
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any anymore. No, but I just want the I want
the players that's now and the ones that's gonna be
coming in. I want them to get the maximum bang
for the buck.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
There's only one person that can do that for him,
the only one person that that that would not only
represent the players, but will represent the NFL p A.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I'm gonna put my name in the hat. Don't worry
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You're gonna put your name in hat.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Put my name in the hat. Most definitely, most definitely,
I mean who, who? Who better? Who better? Come on now?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Oh no, Joe, you ain't been keeping up or you
hain't been keeping up on things like keeping up.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I do my homework now, don't don't. Don't let it
look a few laughs and little jokes, you know, throw
you off your game.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I just I'm I'm i'm, I'm, I'm I'm hip. My eyes,
my eyes can see, my ears can help, my nose,
I can smell.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I want Michael to get paid.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Now, you're gonna get paid. I don't like the fact
that they're allowing all these days to go by and
he's not practicing, and when he does get paid, he's
going from zero to a hundred.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, hopefully don't have anything, you know, knock on with him,
Have any because you know what normally happens soft tissue.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yes, because the body, the body has to get used
to the pushing, the pulling, the tugging, the ripping, the
just ah, man makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It doesn't. It doesn't because I mean, if I'm Mike,
I'm thinking, like, Bro, what do I have to do?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Man?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I've done everything right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All pro I've been to the Pro Bowl every year.
I've had double digit sacks every year. I've done everything
that you've asked me to be. I've been a model citizen.
As far as we know, he hadn't run a file,
hadn't been any trouble off the field. I've done everything
that you've asked. I've been a model citizen. I've been
a great representation representation for this ball club. And now
it's my turn. Yeah, it is my turn. You know,
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Dak had his turn, CD had his turn, Trayvon Diggs
had his turn, still had his turn. Now it's my
turn at some point in time, Jared, you got to
be ahead of the curve. You always fall behind the curve,
and that's why you gotta pay so much.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You falling behind the curve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You either, oh Joe, you either you either head of
the curve or you're in the curve. Because if you
fall behind it, you're behind. Now you gotta pay extra
catch up.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But this is a problem when someone doesn't see anything
wrong with the way they do things, there's no reason
to change. There's no reason to change. If I did
it to everybody else, what makes Micah any different. I
did it Jack, I did it to see that ceed Lamb.
I did it the others in the past, long before
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these players were even born. I've been doing it my
way for a very long time. Yeah, down for what
because winning is not my ultimate goal. It's making a
profit and continue to remain the most profitable franchise.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I mean, but I mean, look, you let one
of your greatest defensive players go for nothing, de Marcus
where because you thought he was done. All he did
was go to Denver to win the Super Bowl and
play and play at an all proper and play at
an all pro level until he was done, So clearly.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're doing something right.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, I just like I said, you know it's tough,
but I mean you miss miss miscalling the guy's name.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean, he's just been there five years, that's all.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You're doing that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think he's doing it. No, I don't think
he's doing it on purpose. Man, Jerry Old.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
He ain't that old not to know his star player's
name on defense.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know the mold people be called man. My girlma
ain't never called me by my real name. My granddaddy
gave my brother names Fanky because he couldn't say Sterling, right,
so he gave the name he could a Fanky. Uh No,
I mean to like I said, maybe it's I mean, Michael, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's never been Michael. It's been Michael. Everybody knows the
man's names. The question what if?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
What if Michael is short for Michael and we didn't
even know that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think his name is michaeh.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Okay, Okay, I'm just I'm just I'm just now.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Normally Mike is short for Michael, not michaeh.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, But.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Maybe they'll let's let you know what, don't you know,
we we got Google. Maybe, Yeah, he ain't mentioned I
ain't never heard him see it though.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, we might want to fact check back because nobody
knew Chad was short for Chadwick.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Michael Aaron Parsons.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Hey, his middle name Eron because what I just said, Yes, okay,
listen is Mama named him Eron. I'm calling him Eron
from from now on.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And he just turned twenty six years of age in May, Okay,
So yeah, I don't know what that's about, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The NFL plans to find more than one hundred players
in roughly two dozen club employees who were found to
be in violation of the NFL Tickets Reseale policy for
reselling Super Bowl tickets at a profit. Under agreement between
the league and NFL Players Association, players who violated rules
will be fined one and a half times the face
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value of the ticket and lose their lot of tickets
to the next two Super Bowls. If they're playing in
the game, players will have a chance to purchase seats.
Those are who declined punishment could be suspended by Commissioner
Roger Gooddell.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Oh but that's tough. That's tough, you know. It's unfortunate
for those players. But I don't mean to say it,
but that's been going on for a very long time.
But you hear, and I'm not telling you what I heard.
I'm telling you what I know. And we talk about players,
you know, we talk about even those that are that
sitting higher positions have always sold their tickets for profit.
This is nothing new. I think the way the clamp
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down on it, maybe it's getting out of control now
based on what the players are making from a profitable standpoint.
But with the money they making these days, the players
that is probably sending the tickets, or those that don't
make as much as others. If if you understand what
I'm saying, I do.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I think the thing is, oh chose.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Look the reason why they increased face value of the
tickets because they find out they will scalf for them.
And they said, well, if you're gonna pay five thousand
dollars on the resale, we might as well go and
put them at five thousand face value. If you're gonna
pay that on the secondary market, you might as well
play this on the primary market. And so and plus
you have to understand, y'all, do realize the NFL know
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the lot number, the seat, the seating section, they know
all of.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
That, everything, every everything, But this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's so funny they're cracking down on that. O yo.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Every Super Bowl though, this has been going on every
Super Bowl, but who knows how long, even when I
I'm sure you were playing absolutely Why are they cracking
down on it this year specifically? Why all of a sudden,
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Cousin you man, you're getting the FBI involved because people
ain't paying taxes because at the end of the day,
are it's gonna want they cut?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
O' yo. See that's that's where you run a file at.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, because you sold something, Okay, Uncles Sam said where
my cut?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Right? Oh right? Yeah, Uncles saying I'm gonna want his cut.
And the NFL has been trying to crack down on this.
They look, you want to go to the game, That says, look,
you might as well just go ahead and come through
us and pay I think the face value ticket when
I I was playing with probably three twenty five, four
hundred they got face value tickets, not probably the cheapest
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ticket to get in probably fifteen hundred and two thousand
and then it goes from there two thousand, three thirty
five hundred four thousand, fifty yard line seats. I mean, obviously,
you know, if you get a sweet might be anywhere
from a million to two and a half million dollars
considering where it's positioned on the field.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Because I kind of saw the direction once they started
up in the prices to what the resellers were getting
for saying said tickets. So I'm really I'm really not surprised,
o Jo that they're gonna crack down, because look, NFL
is a business.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Always has been, and it's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
If you run a restaurant, if you don't cleanse, keep
a closed tab, somebody, they're gonna give your alcohol and
they're gonna give your food away because they're gonna have
their homeboys or their homegirl come sit at the bar
and they're gonna drink for free. Yes, And they gonna
come in there and they're gonna get they're gonna get
meals and they're gonna get that for free. And if
you're not careful, they'll be giving some of your prime
good stuff out the back door. So the NFL says
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you know what, we're fin the crack down on this now.
We don't let it slide. And we probably they probably
told them about you. You know, they first come around at
the beginning of the year a.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Little bit now, and they thought they had a little
bit more seasoned on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, y'all getting
out of control.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Because they're like, hold on, man, Kansas City, ooh, going
for the three peak.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh them tinking back? Whoa man they got? They got
the Eagles, Jaylen hurts.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
You could double charge that. You can go for double maybe.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, yeah, So you're probably selling those and you know,
you got good.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Seats, especially if you if you, if you and if
you're one of the teams that are in it, you
got great seats at least uh eight of the fifteen
because I think I think they gave you know, you
got it, you got two comps and then you got
it you bought the other thirteen. Eight were really good
seats and then seven. I mean, look, you're in the
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super Bowl, so they they like they was way way
up there, but they were they were decent seats. But
you can you know, but things are different now, o yo,
things are different than that. I think the biggest thing
that I will say is that time changes. You must
be willing to adapt to the changing of the times.
You can't say like you and that we came up
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man ojo. They've been doing this from the beginning of
the time.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yet it did. But they're cracking down on it now.
And they're cracking your head because.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
They tried to what they tried to do, Oho, It
used to be you could like, hey, man, you're going
you're using your Super Bowl tickets? Nah? Hey can I
give them? Hey such and such a give my ticke,
give my two super Bow tickets to Oho.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Let them back.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They can pick them up too, They can go pick
them up.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Remember, now they don't put a situation where like you
got to come pick the tickets up.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They won't let They don't let you transform as easily.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
And you know, it used to be where I believe
your ticket, that will call Nah.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
They don't do that anymore. So basic you got to
have the tickets in hand. Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well no, they digitally Where they used to have you know,
you had to have tickets in hand. Now they mainly
do it digitally scan and they don't want you transferring
the tickets.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So and I get you right.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The guys probably some of the guys that are doing this,
they're not the guys that's making twenty thirty forty million
dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They're probably guys that get you know, you know, or
the practice squad.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, trying to make a treat to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Pay you know, little eighteen little eighteen thousand dollars for
two tickets.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Quick, that good little that will hold me?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Oh oh joe, quick, quick and listen you and people
have to understand too when you think about the NFL
or how the hell they know what players did it
the tickets they now know only do they know the tickets?
They know everything, yes, everything. They know what everybody is
doing on all thirty two teams, who they hang with,
where they live, where they spend, where they go, where
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they shut down everything. Do people understand the NFL does
their homework so legitily. Well, now before you make it,
even while you're still in it. Man, they went back
and talked to my elementary teacher. My elementary teacher. Why
are you talking to my elementary teacher about what I
did in elementary? I wasn't even the same chad back then.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They also oo like tickets, well, That's why if you
have season tickets, you gotta be careful who you let
sit in those seats because they act a food. Not
only do they throw them out, now they take your
season tickets. Remember how the Detroit fan. Who that the
Detroit fan that got into it and they took it
season tickets.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
M Oh that's right, that's right, screaming at the coach.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Screaming yes, yes, yes, So they know because they got
it alloted. Okay, the Cincinnati Bengals, they got this a
lot bit of tickets. These are where the section that
the Bengal tickets are going to be. This is where
the Bronco tickets will be. This is where Green Bay,
this is where this one. There's where that one. So
they know, Yeah, at this point in time, now, guys,
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it's just not worth it. Uh, And I get it.
Try to pick up your a little extra quick cash
because you get off seven tickets. You're probably looking at it,
you know, and the problem is you're running into oh Joe,
it's ours because you're taking cash and you're not paying
taxes on that money. I under saying I want is cut. Yeah,
(39:24):
I'm just saying. It's just like anything alcohol. When they
found out they could tax it. Now, all of a sudden,
you didn't need the bootleg cigarettes. Once they could find
out how to tax it, you didn't need a you
didn't a You didn't need to smuggle them weed once
they found out they can tax it. Yes, sir, you
see what they did with it. Now, if y'all were
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just come on saying, AUNCS said, I sold you for
seventy heirs, you're thirty five. Uncle SAMs said, do what
you do, but you're gonna cut he eat a cut
me in and cut it out. He say that cut
me in, a cut it out. That Joe Joey cutting
me here, the cutting.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Out like that.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I gotta say that like that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Oh Joe, you know how it is, Uncle Sam.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It don't matter how small man man what Uncle Sam
want thirty five dollars? Fuck the same reason you want
to hold thirty five. He wanted to see the team
in a half. He meant, you're gonna get it there.
Don't play with Uncle Sam. Now you can play with
a lot of people. Don't play with him.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Oh listen.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Them.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
People don't play you hit me, No.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
They don't it a A I done got audited it
for a dollar. Yeah I got, I got added one time,
oh Joe, And the envelope that is said it there,
it costs more than what I what I owed.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It was just the principle of the matter, right right, right, right, man.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
No, don't play with them people buy that money cut
because a lot of time they know everything because every
what you got in your account and they'll let that
interest draw. Now the thing that you will have to
learn about Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam is never gonna give
you the interest on your money when he late.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
That he's gonna charge you for when you late.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, so he already know and they'll let that thing go.
Say oh man, now he can't pay. Let me come
on in, let me make an example out of him,
because they want the high profile. Because if they get
the high profile, it's like, well, hell, he had millions
and they did something bad to him, what they're gonna
do to me? Go ahead, just go ahead and pay
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them people their money. Leave uncle Sam alone because Uncle
Sam don't play by his But I'm not surprised that
they took this because I kind of being close to
the situation and hearing, kind of felt they were kind
of headed this heading in this direction. Yes, I remember
when they implemented this oho they were going to the
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three and the two, and the three and the four
thousand dollars face value ticket, the ten thousand dollars face
value tickets because they found out people was willing.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
To pay that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, they say, man, why they charge man, why they
charge ten thousand dollars for some chrome hard jeans?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Because people are paid for it.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
That's why the same reason they charge one thousand dollars
for a steak, people are paying for it.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And if people are paid for it, there'll be somebody
there to provide whatever service is needed. You want a tank, Yeah,
I need a tank. It's gonna cost you five get
me the tank. You need a bozooka, you need a missile.
Whatever you need, somebody will will be able to fill
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that need. Man, Oh Joe, I need you on the
Super Bowl tickets. Okay, Hey, man, such and such need
two on the Super Bowl tickets. Well, let me go
to a couple of different teams. Boom boom, boom, boom
boo boom. I got you right. NFL said, Nah, we're
gonna do away with this. If you want to go
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watch one of our one of our events, you're gonna
have to You're gonna have to come through. You're gonna
have to come through us. You have to pay because.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
All that all that, all that value and that money
that's being made is going back to them, Yes, back
to them.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
How you think they paid each team four hundred thirty
two million, six hundred thousand, and you would think, like, man,
what the NFL care about five thousand, ten thousand and
fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Because it adds up. It all adds up, no matter
how small it is, it adds up.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Pennies make dollars. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
You ain't got to tell me twice.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, if it make dollars, it makes sense with a
C and with a S.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
So yeah, but I'm not surprised that they're taking this
and I'm glad they kept it anonymous. You don't know,
because if it's somebody bad, the last thing you will
owe your is somebody that's making uh fifty million and
they selling two two bow chakets for twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Hopefully they get this thing resolved and you see, you know, hey,
they know everything, they know everything they know about the
gambling because they're gonna turn look the draft, Kings and
the and the bets and this and that. They want
to be able to still be able to bet on
football and basketball and baseball. If you think for one
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second they're not gonna turn your ass in.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
EF phone numbers, emails, anything tracking back to.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You and any irregularities, because that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Hey, why do the man keep beating the unknown?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
No boy, man? Why he man? He ain't finished the
game yet? Let me make know of that day they
who something ain't adding up?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Before Aaron Rodgers signed with the Steelers, former Steelers great
quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback Terry Bradshaw called the move
a joke. Terry added, what are you gonna do? Bring
him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That
guy needs to stay in California. Go somewhere You on
bark and whisper to the gods out there. Rogers responded
this week, saying I whispered to the gods every single day.
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He's got an idea of what he thinks about me
based on what I've done, the documentary, What Sad, what said,
darkness Retreat? Whatever the hell you want to talk about.
I love to get to know Terry on a deeper level.
I feel like he gave me a chance to get
to know him. Then we have a good friendship, O Joe.
Honest assessment. What do you you expect from Aaron Rodgers
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this year? And what do you expect from the Steelers
this year?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Listen, Aaron Rodgers only has to do one thing, facilitate
the ball and do his best not to make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
That's all he has to do.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
You got DK, That's one nice target defensively of where
the Steelers are going to win football games. We just
need Aaron Rodgers to manage the games and be a
game manager, a moniker that most people see as an insult,
which it is not, and don't turn the ball over.
Defense will take care of the rest because that's where
the Steelers' identity is now from now on.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, the best players on that side of the ball.
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
And if we slashes, if we can give flashes and
brilliants of the old Aaron Rodgers, so be it, thank you.
But the people on offense are going to have to
be the one to uplift Aaron Rodgers because he's not
the same quarterback he used to be. Where he can
up lift everyone else around him. It's completely opposite.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Now I agree with you. I agreed everything that you said.
Look at their best player. They're on that side of
the ball, that did side of the ball. You look
at TJ. Watt, you look at Cam Hayward, you look
at Jalen Ramsey, you look at Darius Slay, Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Their best players are on that side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Now crazy, and so Aaron just needs to be And
Aaron has never been a heavy turnover guy. He threw
double digit interceptions, but that's not normally Aaron's I think
he only has a maybe two or three seasons in
which he's had double digit turnover interceptions. He's We've seen
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him throw four interceptions over the course of a season.
We've seen him throw five interceptions, six interceptions over the
course of the season. He's normally very very good with
the ball. And that is the Aaron Rodgers. They need
the old Aaron Rodgers, not an old Aaron Rodgers. And
if he can give them that, give them that level
of consistency, I think they're gonna be in every game.
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If you think you're gonna just go in there and
blow the doors off them.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That ain't gonna happen, Gona, it ain't happening. I know that,
I listen.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I know the names look good on paper, but all
the players that they've acquired are proven not on paper
but on the field. So you get those type of
players Jayalen Ramsey and Daris Slaves, the Joey Porters Jr.
Who is very very good, who doesn't get deserves because
everything is always talked about from an offrom the standpoint,
especially referring to the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
You got t J.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Watt camp Man. Listen, they gonna and that is going
to have them in games. We just need Aaron Rodgers,
not the bottle it. They're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Do you believe the Steelers will accept him?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, because that listens. They're not there to make friends.
We're not here to make frans.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Were accept winn.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
We listen, We're here to do one thing. We got
one singular focus, win and do the best we can.
They have a good record, a decent enough record to
make it to the playoffs, and from that point on,
we know it's full games. After that, right, that's all
it is. It becomes a new season four games? Can
we get to that point?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Well, the Steelers have gone to the playoffs, but they
haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. I think
that was the year that they ended up beating think
they beat Kansas City. Remember they went to Kansas City
and le'veyon had that outstanding game and they ended up
winning that game. But I don't if I'm not mistaken,
I could be wrong, So chat don't hold that against me.
But I don't think they won a playoff game since
twenty sixteen. That's almost been ten years. Oh Joe for
(49:24):
the Steelers. Yeah, it's the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
That's the funny thing about it is they haven't it's
been ten years, but they've had winning seasons and since
that's how hard it is to get into the playoffs
when you're in that AFC, especially that damn division will in.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah. Look, I think the thing is is that Ry. Look,
these guys like Terry, Terror's way over mine. Terry was
the number one overroad draft pick in nineteen seventy. Kell
I was born in sixty eight, so two years after
I was born, Terry was you know, I came in
the league in ninety. So there is at least what
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