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November 10, 2024 65 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Milroe and  #11 Alabama Crimson tide 42-13 beatdown on #15 LSU in an SEC showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and #20 Colorado Buffaloes 41-27 win against the Texas Tech Red Raiders, Georgia Tech upsets Cam Ward and the #4 Miami Hurricanes and much more!

03:13 - Show start
03:38 - Intro
05:20 - Bamma beats down LSU tigers
12:30 - CU beats TT
50:00 - Ole Miss beats GA
54:17 - GT upsets Miami
01:01:30 - Quin Ewers/Texas beat Fla

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the LSU Tigers in Death Valley forty two thirteen, Jalen
bell Row had twelve carries for a buck eighty five.
They ran the ball forty eight times for three hundred
and eleven yards and six touchdown as LSU had no

(02:04):
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(03:52):
Alabama Crimson Tie goes into death Valley beat down the
number fifteen LSU Tigers by the score from forty two
to four. Team Jalen mill Rod was sensational last night,
last night, two nights. He did not put the ball
in harm's way, and that's what they're going to have
to do in order for them to go to the
place that they want to go, which is the SEC Championship.

(04:12):
Got their work cut out for him because they have
two losses and there are a lot of teams that
only have one loss.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So they got a hope.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
They got to continue to win and then hope somebody
else knocks off a Tennessee or Texas A and M
and some of these other schools that have only one loss.
Jalen Milrod throwing the ball tonight was twelve of eighteen,
one hundred and nine yards, but that's not where he
did his damage. Twelve carries a buck eighty five four touchdown,
and the last rushing touchdown of seventy two yarder was

(04:38):
basically destraughted, broke the Campbell's back. But I don't think
no one really thought after watching this game for as
long as they did, and they thought LSU was ever
going to come back and win this game. Forty eight
rushes three hundred and eleven yards, six touchdowns for Alabama
and a very opportunistic defense oho Alabama did a great
job of when they got closed, when LSU got close,

(05:00):
picked him off once in the end zone, picked them
a strip sack once Alabama had turned it over downs
the very next play, Alabama defenses rise, defense, rise to
the occasion and takes the ball right back. Jalen Milroe
runs it in for a touchdown, and basically once this
game got twenty one to six, looking at the way
LSU was, their inability to consistently move the ball I

(05:23):
felt very comfortable unless Alabama did something crazy like turn
the ball over, let him get a scoop and score
a pick six.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I didn't think they could do enough.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
LSU could offensively, and I think Brian Kelly is probably
banging his head. He's like, man, this was a game,
and it was you know, it started raining, and you know,
oh Joe, you know when it starts raining, the likelihood
that you throwing the ball isn't very good U. And
so now you got to rely on your running attack.
And that's what Alabama did. Alabama put the ball in

(05:53):
their best players hand, which is Jalen Milroe, and he delivered.
And when he's playing like he's like he played tonight,
they're gonna be hard to beat, kind of like when
he played against Georgia.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
But there are some games that they lost where he
turned the ball over.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
And Alabama defense isn't what it was they used to
go get your quarterback before, because they had the Quinny Williams,
they had the Jonathan Allens, they had the D lineman
that could go hunt, and they had corners and safeties
on the back end that could that could you know,
you have certain and you had a lot McKinny. They
don't have those type of players right now Oho, and

(06:29):
so it's hard to consistently get pressure on the quarterback
unless they bring additional pressure and then you sacrifice your
back in But I thought Alabama came to play tonight,
they knew it was that state. You lose this game,
there goes the chance at the SEC Championship, there's the
opportunity for the college football playoffs.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
This was a game that they had to have and
they went on the road and got it.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
But listen, also, it's very important, like the quarterback play
has to be consistent. Yes, what happens even with the
game they do have left What happened when you you
have a game where you can't be one dimensional, where
you can't just run the ball up and down the field.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
What happens when it's not raining.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
So Milrow is going to have to be efficient from
the pocket and being able to be elusive and extend
plays and be off script with it and not turn
the ball over because some games you're gonna play, you're
not gonna be able to run like that. You're not
gonna be able to have fust downs and run down
the field for seventy seventy seventy yards have as long
as as long as run was.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So if Alabama from the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Position can be as efficient as he was to night
in the passing game when they don't allow you to run,
Alabama has a chance.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
They will have a chance.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I thought the offensive line did a pretty good job
of protecting him. LSU thought they had got that got
to stop on third down, but they got a face
mask call and the next thing you know, they go
down to the field and score a touchdown. But when
you look at this game, you're absolutely right. Look, Ryan
Williams has been quiet the last couple of weeks. Obviously,
they've been paying a lot more attention to him than
what they have in the beginning of the season because

(07:57):
a lot of people probably thinking a seventeen year old
gut it should be going to his high school prom
has no business player college football. But he was outstanding earlier.
But now they're paying a little bit more attention to him.
I I just feel O Joey's longest mill road don't
doesn't put the ball in harm's way. Alabama is They're
not the Alabama. They're not Nick Sabans Alabama. When they

(08:18):
had two. Uh, and they had uh uh, who's the
other quarterback that they had?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
What's the bragg McElroy?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Uh? Yeah, they had another one. They went Ponder. They
won a championship with Ponder. They won another one with
uh that. Brent Musburger was going Google, God got always girlfriend?
What what was that? What was that one? Aj McCarron.
They don't have defenses to support the team like those
guys and like those quarterbacks had defenses.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know why, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Why they don't have the same players that they're not
as dominant as they used to be. That I am
in I l even the playing field with all the
big schools that have the boosters and have the money
to be able to afford the players, so that everybody
spread out all over the place that a playing field
is even Now coaching comes into play that much more
when it comes to playing some of the better schools
that are just as equal as you when it comes

(09:09):
to talent and skill level.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And so Alabama and a game that absolutely had to
have in order to cut their college football playoff hopes alive,
to keep their SEC West hopes alive, they had to
win this game by any means necessary. And they did
it behind a very very vaunted running attack. Jalen Milroe
twelve carries a buck eighty five, four touchdowns. They got

(09:35):
six carres for twenty twenty seven yards and a touchdown
from young Haynes have a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So I mean, you can't.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You can't play any better, run the ball any better
than what they ran it forty eight carries, three hundred
eleven yards, six touchdowns with a long of seventy two.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
And they did it.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like I said, they did a great job of neutralizing
LSU's running game. LSU had twenty four for a bucko four.
That's not even five yards carry. That's more like that's
a little old. I mean, excuse me, that's not even
five yards of carry. It's a little over four yards
of carry. You can live with that, O Joe. And
they had two hundred and thirty nine passing yards, but

(10:11):
a lot of it was late in the ball game.
The game was pretty much in hand. And like I said,
they did a great job of keeping us Mayer off
off schedule. They pressured him just enough that when he
had times he saw ghosts, he saw things that weren't there.
He never got comfortable sitting his feet and throwing the
football with any level of consistency.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And that's what you have to do.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Even if you don't get the quarterback on the ground,
you pressure him enough that they start to see ghosts
and they start to feel the pressure. Even though you're
not close enough to cause any damage. They speed themselves up,
they feed themselves up. So Alabama number eleven. Alabama keeps
their college football playoff hopes alive and their SEC title
hopes alive with a forty two thirteen win over the

(10:51):
number fifteen LSU and Death Valley Number twenty. Colorado goes
on the road down Texas Tech by the score of
forty one twenty seven. Colorado followed four punts in the
beginning of the game with four touchdowns in a field
goal to take the lead thirty one to twenty. After
three quarters. Shador Sanders threw two touchdown passes and ran
four score. Travis Hunter had nine catches ninety nine yards

(11:14):
and a touchdown. Chador was thirty and forty three to
ninety one. Shiloh recovered to fumble ran into the end
zone with fifty one seconds left. Colorado has won his
third consecutive game and it's on pace to play in
the Big Twelve Championship game with a chance to qualify
for the twelve team college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. You know, you
know what I like.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I like the schematically what they did defensively, normally, god
damn Colorado.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Defensively, they played man.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
The man sent me a damnus seventy two percent of
the time today.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
They zoned up.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
They switched it up a little bit, knowing that goddamn
Texas Tech then come back in there and throw that
thing one hundred times a game, and they switched things
up a little bit. That I think that was smart
on their part. That was smart on their part. Travis Hunter,
I just I got to ask, Yeah, has your thought
on Travis Hunter being able to play both sides of
the ball at the next No, No, I just want

(12:15):
to I just I just want to know what you
say the running game. Defensively, they did very well against
the running game as well, so.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
You could live.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean, Texas Tech random ball forty six times for
a hundred and thirteen yards.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
That's not even three yards of carry.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, it was bad. They held Oh I can't what's
the back name?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
He was both one seven four yards of carr you
can give, you can live with that. But they sacked
the quarterback enough and it took it took yardage away
because when you sacked the quarterback, it takes away from
your rushing yard. So h if it doesn't take those away,
O Joe, it's a decent day.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
But he didn't. He didn't hurt him.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
No, he didn't. And they were getting pressure. They were
getting for a man pressure.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Too, Yes, they would getting pressure, getting you know, getting
to move around. So they had some success and they
looked they look different defensively, especially playing it was Texas
Text playing the Colorado team of last year. I think
it would have been a different score. I do too,
it would have been a different score. Well, I think
the thing is, look, they're a man team.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But when you're play a team that likes to throw
the ball like Texas Tech, you zone it. You don't
because you don't want to get rubbed off because a
lot of time, you know, they run a lot of
Now Texas Tech don't doesn't throw it like they once
did when they had Patrick Mahomes, when they had yeah,
Graham Harrold, and they had all these other quarterbacks they
don't throw it like that. They're a little bit a

(13:42):
little bit more balanced, but they can throw it. But
I thought it was smart because they're thinking one thing
that they're gonna get a lot of a lot of
man and they get a lot of zone, and so
I thought they confused them early on, and then once
Colorado was able to settle in, they took off. Like
I said, like you know, we started off by saying
they had four straight punts and then all of a
sudden they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown field goal, I mean touchdown, touchdown,

(14:05):
field goal. And they did a great job of really
controlling the game after that. I thought they should have
put the game way a lot earlier with some of
those It should have never come down. It should have
never come down to it. It was a seven point
game where like a minute, ten minute, fifteen seconds left
in the ball game and you end up having to
get a scoop and score because this game should doure

(14:25):
and all your start a lot of your started with
this sception the offensive line because you don't dress ten
eleven offensive linemen should have been on the sidelines. But
I thought Pat got a little bit conservative in his
play calling uh, and maybe times like, hey, look, let's
not do anything crazy. Defense is doing a great job
a defense. Continue to pressure the quarterback, let's try to
take the ball away. But they didn't give up anything cheap.

(14:47):
The guy made a great play on the touchdown to
pull him with him seven. He made a great play.
Give him credit for that. But I love the way
Colorado was playing. Who did have next weekend?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Not even next week?

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Look at the next three the next three games that
I look at that if I looked at this guy,
I think it's Utah, Kansas and somebody else they got.
They got a chance. They've really got a good chance
to run the next three games.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
They got Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State. Yeah, I think
Kansas be Oklahoma State today. Utah is not the power
team that they that they've been in over the last
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So that's yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
TCU beat Oklahoma State. Who the Kansas beat? Kansas beat
somebody today UCF, Kansas beat UCF and so look, Oklahoma
is not what they Oklahoma State isn't what they've been
in the past couple of years. Uh, Utah isn't what
they've been in the last couple of years. That doesn't
mean I was okay, yeah, Iowa State. That doesn't mean

(15:51):
that they can't raise up and play above what they've
been playing and beat you. You still have to bring
your best package, your best pass tex, your best run game,
your best defense, and let's see what happens. I think
time will have him ready to play. Seven and two,
they won ten games. That's the first time that they
had a coach to win go win ten wins in

(16:12):
the combined seasons since Gary Barnett in ninety nine and
two thousand. That just goes to show you a team
that won four games last year looks like it's about
to double that win total up this year. There are
a lot of people that's disappointed that coach Prime is
doing so well because there are a lot of people
that want to see him fail. But for whatever reason,
maybe he didn't do an interview with you, maybe you

(16:34):
don't like the way you know, they call him a
faalse profit. I don't get it. I don't know why.
It's not like you go into his church. You're not
a member of his congregation.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
This is the funny thing. Even the people that want
to see him fail think about everything. If you follow
coach Prime's career. Everything you go, everywhere you go, even
whether it's on the field, whether it's off the field,
Everything he does and puts his time in it turns
a goal. Everything he does and puts his time in,
it comes into fruition and their success. It so if
you watch him at the high school level, he succeeded.

(17:02):
If you watch him at the cleegiate level, even at
Jackson State, he succeeded. It was the only a matter
of time. Even here at Colorado. Now you think about
what he's done so far in such a short amount
of time. What you think is gonna look like next year,
What you think is gonna happen when the portal happened
hits next year?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
What you think kid is gonna want to do.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I'm worry about this year because unless they get another
shador in Travis Hunter, let's.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and
get this year out the way.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
You know, you know they gonna get a quarterbacks. You
know the quarterbacks are going to want to come play there.
I don't think that's gonna be the issue. Getting another player,
getting another skilled player and snatches everybody else from one
of those other Power five schools.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh, you know what, your door and Travis can be
a top can both be top five picks. Now, what's
the likelihood you get too top five picks out of
the portal?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
So what's the likeness? What's the likelihood of you getting
too top five picks out of the portal?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hey, there's some, it's some. It's some young bulls out
there can play some ball.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Now, Now the chance and getting two top five picks,
I don't know, But you can't get some very very
good quality players, especially quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't think we're gonna see another Travis Hunn for
a while.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
We can see another receiver, we can see another dynamic
receiver that might transfer hit the portal and come here,
but we won't see a two way player like that.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I just think the thing is, Look, I mean to
openly root for somebody to not have success, and I
get it, you know everybody, because they expect black people
to be humble, Be glad you're coaching, Be glad you
got this, Be humble. They always expect us. But you
know why why I gotta be humble. It ain't bragging.
If I do what I say I can, right right,

(18:46):
I mean right. And the thing is because a lot
of times because he was so great, I mean, to
be a professional football player and a baseball player simultaneous.
So well, we couldn't root again, I mean, we couldn't
do it, say anything bad about him because he was
at the top of his game in one sport and
he was a damn good player in another sport. So
now I guess the only thing we can do is

(19:06):
just root against his team, root against his players. Yeah,
and if look, sometimes I expect sometimes of other people
to do that. I just didn't expect that from from
but I should expect it because where it's coming from
from some people. Some of the people that's coming from,
I expect nothing less.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, most definitely, most definitely, because they've always done it.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
They've always done it most of the time for what
we not even afforded opportunities to be at be in
positions of power like that, to be leaders of men,
especially young men as that, so Cody know what it
comes with, especially when you have a coach that's not
afraid to say what he needs to say. He walks
a certain way, he talked a certain way, and he
doesn't abide by the guidelines of what it's like to

(19:48):
be a head coach.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
He will.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
He marches by the beat of his own drum, and
it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, it does, it does.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, I don't root for the Cowboys, but I said,
after Jared Jones did what he did in twenty sixteen, Yeah,
if they don't want another game, I don't openly root
for because I like, I like some of the players.
I like Michael, I like dig I like some of
the players. I don't have no problem. I don't have
a problem with that. But after Jerry Jones and after
way he fit, Oh.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, wait, what happened in twenty sixteen?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Now did everybody knows what happened in twenty sixteen? We
don't have to go back and everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hold on, everybody gonna stand that one.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, all that he's done enough for the last couple
of years. So, like I said, I don't if they
don't win any games, as long as as long as
he's in charge, that somebody else gets in charge. Hey,
let's go Cowboys, because when the Cowboys win, everybody wins,
all the networks win. The podcast we talk about what
we talk about we win, but as long as he's

(20:45):
at the helm, nah, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, but yeah, but y'all, y'all know who it is.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Y'all know the guy that, oh, he's a false prophet
and he's not gonna win.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
And you can't do this for the porter, now, don't.
We don't.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
What we don't do is that we don't give people
we don't talk about. We don't give call people names
on our.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Plaf Okay, hey, can you give me a hint, give
me a hint?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I take you.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
But I think everybody in the chat knows who it
is because he openly goes out of his weight and
it seems like and the reason why a lot of
these podcasts don't have success like a lot of the
other because they're lazy. Because they don't want to do
anything but talk about what you and I do, or
what a coach isn't doing, or what somebody else is doing.
They can't create any other they can't create any other

(21:30):
content other than talk about what somebody else is doing.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You're lazy.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's why you get five thousand views, That's why you
have seven hundred and eighty people that watch your show
at a time.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Because you're lazy.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Huh, I got a question. And whoever you talk about,
they be talking about us, they.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Talking about they won't talk about you. They talk about me.
But because the people don't the people, but the people
what you what, they fail to realize, Yes, there's some
people that y that's in your boat, that they don't
particularly care about me or the success that I'm starting
to have. And so yeah, they gonna watch it. But
there's a reason, there is a reason that the that

(22:11):
that because you're so lazy and you can't talk about things,
all you can talk about is people are doing or
not doing.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Your podcast create con create, and so.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Tell me, tell me who it is so I can
go out.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
No, no, no, why would we lend why would we
lend them our audience?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
See, listen, it's not about Lennons.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Sometimes you got to set a president, you got to
set up.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
If somebody talk about you, you gotta let me know, let.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Me hand of your dirty let me tell you how
we do it. Ohoe, We just let them down the vine.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Just let them down the vine.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And no, no, no, that's the thing, oh Joe. Leave
them where they are.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then eventually people and people, people like Bro That's
all you talk about is Shannon. What he's doing and
what he's wearing, and he said this and he should
have done that.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
When are you gonna create original content?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
All these games? Do you know how many games get
played on a Saturday? Do you know how many NFL games?
How many basketball games? Do you know how many things
are going on that doesn't involve Shannon? But seemingly four
or five times a week, all you talk about is Shannon.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
What Shannon said on ESPN, What Shannon did? What bro damn?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now I don't mind it because what when sponsors and
advertisers they see the impressions, they see the views, they're like,
oh with lock with luck? Because you mean to tell
me somebody's gonna continually talk about you and bring your
name up? Y'all thought y'all did oh look at on
look it up? Do y'all realize that total winds? How

(23:52):
many cases of shape by Laportier, Total wines are purchase?
I need y'all to go make some more videos. How
did y'all make video? Because total wild love it? That's
what y'all don't get. Y'all have made me way more
popular than I probably would have been had y'all not
done what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, make me popular too, make me popular because
it's not cap Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Want to be famous too.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, but that's that's the thing, O Joe.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But we're not lazy because Ash and I spend so
much time and we run stuff by your producer okay
and Ojoe, Okay, talking about this. We spend an enormous
amount of time trying to create original content. Yeah, we
get stuff that we think people want to talk about
on the internet when it comes to dating or somebody
did something to somebody car. But for the most part,

(24:43):
most I would say ninety percent of our content is
original love. We're not playing the game, but we're talking
about games. We're talking about things that we think people
want to talk about. Occasionally we have a dating thing
in here or this or that, and sometimes we have
to talk about what a player said or what a
player has done off the field. But for the most part,

(25:04):
we're talking about sports, and we're talking about culture. We're
talking about entertainment and a lot of other things.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
But yeah, you know what, you know what, And this
is no disrespect to all the podcasts that out there.
I love all of them. I love all of them.
I'm not gonna name them all. But everybody has, you know,
great content. Everybody is different. But there is no podcast
like ours.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
No.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
We talked sports, we talk culture, we talked to think
some of the things that are going in the world.
But when it comes to the motherfucking stories, when it
comes to the stories and the experiences that we've both
been through. You know, some of yours are from the past,
some of mine I'm living them now, and some of
mine that that I live, you know, back in the day.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Nothing touches that. It's it's so real, it's so authentic.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
And the funny thing about it is the people that
are watching our watching our show, they hit some of
the stories like god, damn, I relate that. But I
mean they're going through the same stuff we went through.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes, you know people, yes, but people, oh cho.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
When I tell a story, people people actually think I'm
lying man, trying to get credit. Bro, You think I
want to tell somebody somebody pulled a gun on me,
or kick the door off the engine to get credit.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I'm fifty six.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
My cred days are over. My cred day it's over old. Joe,
I can't get no cred You ain't grow up like that.
Why would somebody tell a story O joe about no
having no indoor plumbing. Why would somebody have to tell
that they had to go outside to use the bathroom
until there were twenty years of age if that wasn't true.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
But all I say, all I got to say is this.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Anybody that thinks any story that I'm telling, I'll match you.
Put up a million dollars and I'll go get depleted
the players that were involved.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
All you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Anybody just says unk lying about anything that I've said. Now,
the lady, the lady with the lobster story, I couldn't
be I couldn't remember her name and I couldn't find her.
But the story about but the dude pulling the gun,
the guy kicking the door off the.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Head, Yeah yeah, me growing up, how.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I grew up and eating what I All you gotta
do is put up the money money, talk bullgeye walk
yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
And people be telling me my stories be fake and
be false. Everything I say is real.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Shit, and they hateros.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm trying to figure out if Steven they get fifty
million dollars a year. How much money is coming out
of your pocket. That's Disney, that's ESPN. Y'all should be
rooting for a brother man to get that kind of
money because think about it, that gives everybody else an opportunity,
because that's the measuring stick. I don't get, Hey, I
want him to get it, cause you know who coming

(27:41):
in the door after.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Hey, hey, Hey, yeah, I'm gonna be right behind you.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm gonna be right behind you.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah. So that's that's the thing. I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Look like I said, I've known Prime for a long time.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
He is what he is.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean, we joke like. I don't bother him as
much now because he got a lot more on his plate.
I bother them a little bit when he's at Jackson State.
I bothered to ask a lot more when he was
coaching his sons in high school. But I just I
just want us to win because the money is out there.
The money is out there, And because just because not
Cap gets something, that doesn't mean something got taken away

(28:19):
from you, right because Club Sha Get is a sponsor
that Okay, y'all make it seem like the financial you got,
the pets, you got cars, you got hotels. So if
if a sponsor does something with me, what you mean
to tell me you can't go to another one a
credit card or a cellular service. I'm confused, Yea. I

(28:44):
look at somebody's like, okay, I got a team. See
if they be interested. If they're not interested, guess what
all them sell providers, all those cars. I look at it. Hey,
it ain't that hard, O Joe. It's not that hard.
But I look, I said, we try to be original,

(29:08):
That's what we try to do. And I think what
sets us apart is that we can tell stories. And
the way I can tell a story I have. I've
always been the guys. When I was in Denver, they
used to call me the storyteller.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Come out.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I have a great memory, and I can remember things
damn near verbatim of how they happen. But lie about
what because you know what has happened.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
O Joe.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
People have lied and been deceitd for so much that
the truth is shocking. Ain't no way that can be
truth because what you see on the internet, what you
see on social media, what people have done to constantly
try to deceive people and pull the wolver.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
But at this point, in fifty six.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
What you see is what you get, A big old black,
fifty six year old country mofo.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's it. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Sam saying I'm not gonna change.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, it's too it's too late in the game to
change now, because this is served me or my family,
my friends, not Cap Club Shah, anything that I've been
associated with, the Broncos, the Ravens, it served as well.
But uh, we're gonna We're gonna be all right. Oh Joe,
we got something. Oh yeah, you think the door Sanders

(30:24):
side in Texas Tech fans tortilla after Colorado Wild's road victory.
Ash is telling me, oh, Joe, that's their thing. Like
Mississippi State has cow bells, cow bells. Certain schools have
certain traditions. I guess Texas Tech is throwing tortillas on
the throwing tortillas on the field. So I guess after

(30:46):
uh on Saturdays, you better be already stocking up for
your tortillas. Are you not eating what they put what
they put in tortillas case of deals or what they
put in tortillas tacos?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Okay me? Oh yeah, marito burrito. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So if you hadn't stopped up because all these college
fans they going and they buy them.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Throw them on the field.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I guess it's kind of like what is that Detroit
Red Wings where they throw fish or on the ice?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, or queen somebody somebody?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, and so uh but should do
or signed one of them? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Wow, hey, uh, we're gonna get a copyright. So we asked, Okay, you.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Saw Travis Hunner put the to t in his pants
before the snap of.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
The but yes, yeah, uh yeah, yeah, guys, we gotta
be so we don't and people like sometimes they've asked
why we don't really show a whole lot of stuff
at U, O Joe. Is that we gotta We got
a copyright, and so we got about another what we

(31:56):
got two copyrights, so for the next okay, we got
fifty five days. We've already done thirty five of them.
And so and what happens, guys if you use somebody else,
and I guess with what happened was this is what happened,
O Joe. And I don't even I've never shared this
with you. Is that you remember that we showed the

(32:19):
clip of travel of Cam being on the field that
you see, and he was talking to he was talking
to Travis and he's talking to Shador okay. Ash got
the footage from the end of it from Twitter. We
didn't know whose it was. I mean, they had already
been tweeted blah blah blah, all all of a sudden,
all over it everywhere, it was everywhere. Well, the guy

(32:42):
that footage that it was, he put a thing into YouTube.
YouTube flagged us so in the pop so they took
they took it down. Not only did they take it down,
the money that we would have that we would have made.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
He got, oh hell, god, no.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Check this out. We had it. So now what we did?
You know, we cut it.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
We had a breakout clip, right, it was the same clip,
but he said we had posted it again. So they
took that one down, gave us a second copyright infringement,
and gave him the monetization.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
From that clip. And oh so so he took our money,
he took all he took it off. That's that's fine.
I ain't got a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But the problem is is the two strikes, we get
a third strike, they take Nightcap down. So we got
no channel. So that's why we've been extra careful. And
then then what happened is that we reached out and
tried to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
He wanted to come on Nightcap spend at least five
to ten minutes talking. He wanted us to promote. He
wanted us to do a segment about that video, every
single breakout clip with him, every single week. In other words,
to make a long story short. I'm not gonna get
too far into it.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
He wanted every week.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
He wanted us to leave the video permanently, so to
make a long story short. He wanted us to build
his YouTube channel. That was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Hold on, hey man, we got to put our shasties on.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
He took our money, man.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Bro don't worry. Look, oh Joe, we get that money back.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I know. I'm just I don't like the way he moving.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't like what it is. It is what it is.
Had we had we known, well we don't. Ohoe. Do
you know how much money that I lost from that
Cat Williams clip?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Mh.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Probably if I had got a lot like Joe Rogan.
You can't use Joe Rogan clips. Had I just set
it up? Say you can't use my clips, right. I
probably it's that we've added like one hundred and fifty
your views just on my YouTube channel. Yes, sir, we
probably would have done five hundred and six hundred million

(35:06):
views and what what I've made you probably triple it.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
But I said, you know what.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Hey, hold on, don't even worry about We gonna get
that back there.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, for sure, But that was that was.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Because right now the cup run is over.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
For sure, I'm gonna preach. I'm not gonna preach, but
the cup running over.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But my thing was, bro, I said, Bro, we don't
have no problem bringing you on, but you're not gonna
tell us how long we got to have you on
four You're not gonna tell us we have to leave
your video up for perpetuity. You're not gonna tell us
we've got to promote your your your channel. That ain't happening.
We got them. And he wanted he wanted us on

(35:50):
all the channels, media channel to follow him, and he
wanted me to follow him personally.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
What hey, what's his name to me?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
But guess what?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Can I ask your question? He worked for Colorado for
the bus. No, because I'm going to the game next weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But the thing is, O Joe, it's all good. Look,
we're gonna, we're gonna stay out the arms. Wait for
the next fifty five days. We're gonna get We're gonna
nah nah, hell nah, we're gonna. We're gonna, we're gonna get.
We're gonna get those those two things removed, and we're
gonna be yeah, because what happens is that it slows
the viewership. Now we're not as the algorithm doesn't recommend

(36:31):
us like it was dead. That's why if you notice,
if you notice our subscribers have slowed, I've been hold on.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
You know what I could do now, you know, I
got the connection, I know the people like YouTube, I
know the CEO.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So if you even to make a call, let me know.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
No, we're good. No, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna. We're gonna play it by the book the
right way. Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna wait out.
We've been great for thirty five days. We got fifty
five more days sold, fifty five more days. So by
like the twentieth of December, we're gonna be straight but
a fact, it's a valuable lesson. I'm ash moving forward,

(37:07):
team moving forward, reach out ask because a lot of
times like they'll reach out, like house and high lights
and people, they'll reach out. Can we use can we
use this? Can I use that?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know because about a
lot because we didn't know who it was. We're blown
to like if somebody had something out there. I was like, okay, sure,
but a lot of people will reach out seanon. Can
we use this clip from Club Shashae? Can we use
this from Nightcap? Sure?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
No problem? Yeah, no problem, But we didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Had we known, we would have gone through the steps,
just like people go through the steps when it comes
to Shasha when it comes to Nightcap. Absolutely, but we
didn't know. But it's a lesson learned. You live and learn.
Ain't no problem. Yeah he got, he got, he got
the money that we would have made from that episode
and that clip.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's all good, O Joe. You can't stop progress.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Oh absolutely not, I said, because one thing, by god,
he got favored.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Now come on now, yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, well he tried to, and I was like I
thought about it. I said, nah, nah, I said, Nah,
we're not finna, We're not negotiate with a terrorists. You're
not hold hostage. We made an honest mistake, Bro, You
actually you actually think we did this on purpose? You
think we did this on purpose.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
It's the world we live in. Uh, it's the world
we live in. Most people are they they're they're opportunistic,
especially when they've known you made an honest mistake.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's all good. Nah. I know I don't want him
to get banned.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I don't want I would not reach out, I would
not tell time to do anything because I want the
young brother to make his money.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I want him to get his money.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
And he felt this was the best way for him
to try to like come up by all me, do
what you need to do, Bro.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But dang, damn, I'm sorry to hear that man that happened.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Hey, he took food off both our tables. I ain't
I ain't the only one that lost out. But everybody,
I mean everybody. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
We got a big staff here.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah yeah, Hell, I didn't know until we had I
had a meeting, Like we.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Got twenty people.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Dang, you got twenty when you had a nightcap and
a club twenty and that's not even that's not even
talking about Shelley, just just the people because Nightcap is
every single day. So we got I mean, as we're talking,
oh Joe, we probably already got to clip up with Alabama.
We probably already got that posted. So we got people

(39:47):
doing graphics, we got two people doing yes, yes, yeah,
we got producers and everything. We got people damn near
working around the clock to spit out. Hey cut it,
and it's gonna go out a certain amount of time, right,
So oh yeah, it's a big undertaking. It's a lot
of you know, people think, oh, you know, you can
do this if do you do it right? Because I

(40:09):
wanted to look professionally done. I always wanted to be
the best. I want people to like, Okay, look at
the lighting, look at X, Y and Z, look at
the graphics. And we're always trying to see we have
graphics for every segment.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
We have a ticker. We try to have it.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
We try to be as professional as we possibly can
because we believe our viewing and listening audience, because they're
giving us their eyes and their ears, they deserve the
absolute best. And I'm not gonna be standing and try
to save money while shortchanging the fans that listen to
Club Shay, that listen to Nightcap.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
That's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
So I just want you guys to know that we
do everything we possibly can to bring you the best
single show every single night, every night that we're on Sunday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Club Shay Shape we pay a lot. Ay we spend
as tons of money. I mean just just for the

(41:07):
sites when we go on the road, you know, Yeah,
we spent I think for location fees. Just for Club
shap Shape, we spent three quarters of a million dollars.
Who that's not including the camera pool. I'm just saying
for the venue that we gonna use. That's what we
spend because we want to make sure it's right. We

(41:29):
want to make sure it's done right. And so we
because I believe, I believe my fans deserve that. I
believe people that listen to Nightcap if they're gonna take
time out of their schedule.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
And that's why I'm so hard on the crew.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I say, these people, you got these people standing up
midnight one, two, three in the morning, and we're gonna
give them. No, we're not gonna do that. That's not
what we're gonna do. And I understand things happen, but
the damn sure better not happen more than once. So

(42:04):
for the next fifty five days, guys, we can't show
y'all no videos.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I said all that.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I said all that chat to tell y'all we can't
show y'all no videos. So that's hopefully what we'll do.
We'll like explain it to you and then you can
go see it and then you can put two and
two together and you can use your imagination of what
we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
So a matter of fact, you know what you know
what I want be playing. I'm not.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
I'm sure you know now that you're in the podcast world,
you know you know Joshi, I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
No, Okay, very very good friend of mine.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
He created an app I had a long time ago
called mad Chad, right, yeah, and he is very very
very when I say, very well connected, very well connected
when it comes to the world of podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
YouTube.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
So when I when I when I said that statement,
most people in the chat would probably say, you know,
he's joking, But I really have to get away from
the middle man to go straight to the tone.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
That's why what I said. Yeah, but we want to
want to do it, want to do so.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
They can go see it at some point in time,
the video like a video or something. Yeah, So what
we're trying to do, we'll try to post a link
that you can go watch the video that Ocho and
I were talking about, so you'll get a better understanding.
But because it's kind of hard, like when you know,
we say something and we don't have because a lot
of times, don't you remember we used to talk over

(43:41):
the video, right, and so people could actually see what
was going on, and so we could explain and you know,
you had your take on what why you thought it
was this or that. I would have my take why
I thought it was that or this. But it's kind
of hard, but hopefully you guys understand. But fifty bear
would for fifty fifty five more days. Can you give
us five more days and we'll be right back at it.

(44:03):
And I promise you gods, we won't make this mistake again.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Like January January, we'd.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Be like like, uh we we're thirty five days in
Uh so we got fifty five more days. So like
middle of this, like middle of December. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
because we we got what twenty one more days? The
day is the night, the day is the night. So
there's thirty days in November, thirty days in November and.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Then okay, so around damn the damn Christias times.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but we're good.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
To be good, like I said, be a good gift.
That'd be a good yeah us.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
And then and then and then guess what we have
all the strikes removed. We would have gone through the process. Hey, yes,
we disputed it, but but what's the dispute? We had
the video up? Yeah, he said, we you know, we
used we used this thing unknown we did. I mean,

(45:01):
we wanted to use it, but we didn't know the
channels to go. You know what I'm saying, the goat
you know who who had belonged to because they hadn't
been tweeted because it was a viral clip.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, but we didn't really know who it belonged to.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I bet he ain't do that to nobody else.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
No, he did, he did. I think it was about
twenty people he said. You know, he had a big thing.
He was he was proud of it.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Oh he went and capitalized then.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, yeah he was. He was happy about it.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
That thank you YouTube that you know, people you know,
you know trying to you know, I'm just honest, you know,
Like I said, we spent far too much time. Number
sixteen Old Miss defeated number three Georgia twenty eight to ten.
After taking the opening series, Old Miss recorded five sacks,
nine tackle for losses, four for a force, four fumbles,
and intercepted Carson a Carson back pass. Old Miss fans

(45:50):
rushed the fields, carrying the gold posts through the streets
from Artford. That dark who was thirteen to twenty two,
passing four one hundred and ninety nine yards with the
interception the Old Miss. The Old Miss rebels finished with
three hundred and ninety seven total yards. They did a
job with the mojo, They did a job. They got
after Georgia, Georgia. Georgia Georgia. Problem is their quarterback. Now,

(46:11):
I don't know how what they saw in this guy
to have this guy. He was like he was the
number one prospect quarterback.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, he I got I got a question.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
With all these ten and two teams right in the
sec you feel like there's a paradigm shift in the conference.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Oh it's yet, but look, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
It shift shifted completely.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, you were you brought Texas in. I mean, I
think the thing is ojoe. And now you got twelve teams, right,
because when you only had four, it would pretty much
be over for a lot of teams. But because you
have twelve, so now you're gonna get eight more teams
that had no chance.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
The previous years. Yeah, so thirteen.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I don't know if you get in with three losses,
but they're gonna be some teams because they're gonna be
some teams with two losses that get in.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Right, but think about think about when I talk about
the paradigm shift, it's been Alabama, Georgia, Alabamajorgia, Alabama, Georgia, Majoria, Alabama, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I mean consistently year and the year out. Now, man, listen,
everything is changing.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
The landscape of who's probably going to be in the
playoffs is changing.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I think what you're looking at it you're talking about
the SEC.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
It's been Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia.
And it still could. But Texas has one loss A
and m has one loss. And these are some teams.
I think Texas played. No, the Texas play for the
They played in the NCC Championship game last year.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Right was it.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
This is their first year in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
So yeah, So I think the thing is Oho is
that you're gonna have It's gonna be tough. I don't
think Oklahoma's gonna be down forever, right right, But yeah,
it's a situation where the likelihood of you seeing Georgia
and Alabama dominate like they once did. No, but they

(48:12):
did a job on them, Joe, they did a job
on them. And I'm not I'm surprised. I'm not surprised
given how cars how poorly Carson back has played, because
they won some games in which you threw three interceptions
and consecutive games, and they won those games because they
were so much better than the opposing team, a team

(48:36):
that doesn't turn the ball over.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
As much as you do. Now you see what.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Happened, and Italient is just about yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, And Lane Kiffin is a hell of a coach.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Now, he has a very unorthodox way, and I think
he kind of rubbed coach saving the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
But there is no denying that he can coach. There's
no denying he can coach that.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And you know, normally the guys that come up under Sabing,
they earned something when they were there. More so than
you know, Lane Kiffin was under coach Saban Kirby Smart,
Jimbo Fisher. There's been a lot of Billy Napier. I mean,
you go back and look got Locksley at Maryland. You
go back and look at this tree. Go look at

(49:19):
college football, to look at coach Saban's tree. Right, that
thing like a grant, a giant redwood. He got some
coaches on it. Yeah, but Old Messter number sixteen, Old
mess defeats number three Georgia twenty eight to ten and
keeps their SEC Championship game hopes alive, keeps their college

(49:43):
football playoffs oaps alive. Georgia Tech upsets number four Miami
twenty eight. Oh Joe, you can't keep living. He can't
live keep living on a prayer, bro, You tempting faith,
You're tempting faith.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, man cam Ward had.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
An unbelievable game throwing the ball, but they got stopped
three times on fourth down. The last time he got
stopped on fourth down and he fumbled the football and
Georgia Tech was able to win.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
It's gonna hurt and that sack fumble hurt Man at
the end, Brian something.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
If I think, I'm honestly believe that they were going
to go down to score if it wasn't for that
sack fumble.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well that was fourth down, so they weren't gonna go
down unless they got a first down football.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
They were gonna get the first to be able to
continue to continue to drive in the series.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I really, I really was.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I was hoping, and I really felt, you know what,
these boys are gonna come in if God was gonna
answer their prayers and they were gonna be ten to zero.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
But is unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Georgia Tech ran the ball forty eight times two hundred
and seventy one yards.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
When you run the ball like that, what do you do?
You can go to the clock.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
You that that that that that high powered Miami passing
offense off the field. Cam Woard was sensational again. He
was twenty five or thirty nine three forty eight, three touchdowns,
no pick. They ran the ball twenty four times for
eighty six yards. But they are throwing football team. They're
not a passing team. Cam Ward was the Heisman favorite

(51:14):
going into that game. I don't know if he still
is coming out of that game, damn, because they lost.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
They lost, Man, they lost.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
So who I mean, let's say okay, they let's.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Say I still think Travis Hunter is the best player
in college football. I think if they win or if
they win another how many more games do they have?
Ash two or three?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You gotta be more than three.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
They got three left. They got three games left. If
they make the Big Cost Championship, they have four.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Remember last year Jane Daniel won the Heisman losing three games.
I think that was the most losses for a Heisman
winner in a very very long time. Yeah, normally that
won maybe two games. But Jen Dames won it last year,
and he deserved to win because he was essentially he
was clearly college football best player. I mean, look, what

(52:17):
did Genty do tonight? Did he have a big game rusher?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Oh uh? But what do you what do you think? Oo? Miami,
But you can't keep.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Living like that, Ojo everything you think about the Cow game,
they came back, the Duke game, they came back.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
There was another game that they came from behind and
they won.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
They we the Hurricanes got to find a way to
be consistent and efficient awful quarters.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yes, no more laughses, no more, No more starting slow.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
I'm not sure why they always start slow and always
play hero ball towards the end of the game, end
of the third, middle of the third, coming out of halftime.
They got to hit the ground running from start to finish. Yes,
but there's there's no reason they should have lost to
Georgia Tech. Obviously, Georgia Tech did play a good football
game today, but teams like I think when it comes
to teams like that, if you want to be the

(53:14):
Hurricanes as all, you're come into a.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Game like this and you win convincingly, You win convincingly.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
You just have to if you are who you think
you are right now as far as how far the
Hurricanes are coming and proving you know that that that
school in that program.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, but that's what happens, oh Joe, Because see the
thing is is that when you play a team, and
the longer you leave a team in a game in
which you're supposed to win, the more confidence you give them.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
My college coach ed always say, say son killing that
with a sledge O we're better than that team. But
if you leave them in a game long enough, they're
gonna start turning cart wheels. They're gonna start feeling good
about themselves, and they gonna believe they can beat ass.
And so I always kept that in the back of
my mind. Okay, yeah, I think we should. We're better

(54:09):
than this team. We won six games, they won no games,
and all of a sudden, here we are in late
in the third quarter and that we're up ten to seven.
Now they believe they they believe they belong and now
a game that we should have won. You know, we
got sloppy. We done throw a pick, or we fumbled
the ball, or whatever the case may be. I had
a drop on third down or something. We've allowed a

(54:30):
team to stand into a ball game we should have
put away at the first in the first half.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
And I think that's what's happened with Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
They keep starting slow, o Joe, and you're giving these
teams hope you giving these teams. They're like, man, man,
it's the third quarter and we're right here with the
number fourteen, number three team in the country.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Now you got hell on your hands. And it's kind
of like a boxing match, jojo.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Hey, the longer you lead the alone, you lead the
underdog in that it's like, hey, maud, I'm still here,
I'm round.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. At that point it's a punch that you got
to punch.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
His chain exactly, exactly, got and so. And that's what
Georgia Tech says, Hey, here we are in the fourth quarter.
Mm hmm uh we're up. But give the give the
yellow jackets credit od Joe. I mean that they're tough.
I mean, look, you don't see an offense like they
run often on the whole. A whole lot of teams

(55:27):
run the wishbone or the broken bone to beer or
whatever you want to call it. You know, yes, maybe Army, Navy,
uh Tech, but not a whole lot of teams. They
used a lot of teams used to run. Everybody used
to run in the Big in the Big Eighth before
it became the Big twelve. You had Nebraska and Colorado
and Oklahoma and Oakie State. Uh, Tennessee, there are a

(55:48):
lot of teams running the wishbone to beer. The wordlybird
option in Tennessee call there's the wordly Bird. But now
only a few teams the because you have to be
found every single play. If you you got the pullback,
get the pullback. If you got the pitch man, take
the pitch man. If you got the quarterback, take the quarterback.
Because the one time you don't own your responsibility and

(56:09):
he gives that ball to the fullback, he gonna hit
his head on the gold post. Yeah and so, but
give Georgia Tech credit six and four, four to three.
In the Conference ninety one Miami. Miami was undefeated. Number
four Hurricanes lose. They go down to Georgia. Hey, they
went down to Georgia looking for a Solda steal. They're
troubling mind that droven the line looking make it a deal.

(56:31):
You know, Charlie Daniels Dever drove down to Georgia looking
for a Solda steel.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
You know about Charlie Danias, Man, I know a lot
about Charlie. Yes, Man, the Hurricanes, like mccoach used to say,
man in high school. Man, don't play down to your competition.
Don't play down for your competition. You leave him in
the game and this is the results you get.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
That's exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Quinn Yours throws five touchdown passes as the number five
Texas Longhorns drum the struggling Florida Gators forty nine to
seventeen quinn ewards, thirty three passing yards, five touchdown, and
the number five Texas roll over the struggling Florida two
days after the third year Gators coach Billy Napier, Napier

(57:16):
was given a public statement of support from the school's
athletic director. I just don't know, o Joe. That's still Florida.
That's still the Florida Gators national champion. They've had national
champions they've had Heisman Trophy winners, they've won national championships.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
You can't blame it.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
You can't blame the coach, academics. Ad needs to understand
and understand in order to compete, you got to have
the players in know they had the players. You got
to open up that pocketbook. Oh yeah, it's a.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Different time now.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Players, the players in Florida aren't staying in Florida anymore.
At what point they was picking between three different schools.
He was either going to Miami, was going for the state.
You was going to sort of one or the other.
You're not gonna be the powerhouse you were or you
used to be what you used to doing. You're not
gonna win like that. You got to open up your pocketbook,
open up your purse. I don't know who the athletic

(58:12):
director is out there in Gainesville, but it's the only way, baby.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
It's the only.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I think, jo Yo. The thing is is that when
you look at it, when you looking at a Power
five and.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You're looking at a team in the big team, you're
looking at the team in the Big twelve, you're looking
at a team in sec.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, I can go pro from any of them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
So now if I can get if the end result,
I can end up in my destination, right, who gonna
make sure I'm the coolest when I arrive at that destination?
Meaning who gonna make sure Mama got a nice crib?
Who gonna make sure I'm driving a Lambeau truck? Who's
gonna make sure I'm driving for a Lambeau or or
coloring it. I didn't need to know who's gonna make
sure that before I get that, because I need to

(58:56):
rib in style. I mean I can't just I can't
look at charge a challenger are nice? Yeah, but I
need a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
It's a different ball game, sure, And I ain't mad
at them, got to pay to play man?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
They talk about third string, walk on quarterback, Tell the joint,
Tell the Florida fans that.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Tell them boosters that anybody boosts know they see the
landscape on how everybody else is doing. They're seeing what
teams are doing. You got to pay to play baby,
that's it. Yeah, that's who we are.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I ain't mad at him either, and I'm mad. I
am not mad. Get that money. Get it because.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Do you see did you.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
See what the es being paid for the sec rights?
Did you see it when Fox paid for the Big
ten rights? So y'all want all that money go to
the school and the players don't get nothing. Oh they
got an education and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Educate these pockets.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
That's what I need.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So I mean college kids, they got agents, they can ages.
Now they got CPA's. Because you get this anim money,
you gotta pay taxes. Just caut you seventy eighteen. Uther
Sam tax your.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Ass to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
He coming to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Oh, he want his money.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And if you don't, if you don't pay it, not,
you're gonna pay it later.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Sure will because I I've been man under Sam odder
than me, and it costs more for the postage than
what he got. But he want his money. Oh I pay,
I overpay. They'd be sending me little. They send me
money back, or I let.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It roll over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Oh no, you're not gonna get me cause they gonna
let that thing roll. Let it go, let the entrance
build up. It's just a double your ass up. And
then because they already know, like you know what, he
can cover this right now, let's not bother let it go,
let it go interest. Then guess what once they added you,
they take that thing way back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
They go way back, way back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
They go back. They go back with you like confeets,
y'all go way all the way back.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Listen, you know when you're a high draft pick, you
know how far back them scouts go to do their
homework on you before they.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Invest that money.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Yeah, they go to high school.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
That's how far back Uncle Sam got.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Will he wanted all his money.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
I'll never forget my draft process. Talking to Mike Brown,
Duke Tobin sat down and talked with Duke and they
told me and they gave me understanding of the process.
Why did they go back and talk to my elementary teachers?

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Why they go back?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
I talked to my teachers in junior high.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
What does what I did the elementary and junior high
have to do with me being at the NFL level
where I'm still not the same person I was in
elementary and junior high.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
They went back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Fun They're gonna make sure you're not that same person.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Hey, God dawg, the stuff, the stuff that I mean
for those of you in the chat, I mean, you
should see the research that teams scouts do before they
invest in these players and pay them all that money.
They went, they go all the way back, but they should,
I mean, elementary, junior high, college.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Oh Joe, think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
If you're about to invest fifty million dollars in the property,
you just gonna take the last You're gonna just take
the last year, or you're gonna go all the way back. Hey, Yeah,
fIF team invest in millions, millions and millions and millions
of dollars. I mean, anytime you invest that kind of
money in something, you want to know exactly what I'm getting. Yeah,

(01:02:50):
I just want to make sure it ain't no ain't
no funny business.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I was in college because I gotta make sure because
the money doesn't change it. It makes you more about
you already are. Now, I just want people to understand
that money does not change you. It makes you more
of what you already are. Oh if you acted like
a jerk and you acting crazy. Now, sometimes you see

(01:03:14):
guys it clicks for him. Man, I'm in this position.
I'm in this situation, my mom, dad, grandma, my family.
Straight man, I can't mess this, sir. And sometimes you
throw caution to the wind. Ain't nothing happen to me?
And you do crazy stuff and then people are like, well, now,

(01:03:34):
I don't know what, but when you if you'd done
your homework. M The guy told the story, what's the
Oklahoma State black Man? When the Jacksonville justin black.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Boy? He was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
The guy told him, say, you know what, they was
thinking about drafting him. Obviously he was the best receiver.
Go down to Oklahoma State, say spend week down there.
Guess who was in the bar every single day for
a week having drinks. Tell the people that, humbo joe,
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Is in the bar every week, every day for a week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
That's not an accident. What's the likelihood? And I go
somewhere and I see that person in that bar, every
single day for a week. That's not his pattern the behavior.
So are we surprised that what transpired for him once
he got to the NFL. No, we're not, because that's

(01:04:38):
who he was and now that he had think about it.
If you ain't got no money, you know when you
in college, you ain't really got no money. You drinking
private stock, you drinking booms for him, You drinking Big
Moth mickey, you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Drinking bull dry. You get some money, man, you're getting velvet,
You getting the good stuff. You would afford the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Shot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
So that's that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
And I don't have a problem with guys invest Yes,
I'm gonna find out as much as I possibly can
because I'm about to invest. Right you in buy a building,
or you buy a laundry mat, or you buy something.
I need to know you gome back as far as
you possibly can the revenue that it generates. Okay, has
there ever been leans on this property? What's the Okay?

(01:05:23):
When you buy a house, what you do you have
somebody else? Do you come to do some appraisal or
do appraisal of the house. They do a walk through
of the house.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Not just you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
You have somebody that doesn't have invested interest in it
to go, Okay, give me your assessment. What is the
actual value of this property that I'm about to purchase
because I'm I'm about to invest some money in

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
It, so I don't I don't have I don't have
a problem with it, right
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