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what the Patriots? Oh, yoll bury. Very very interesting game,
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very good game, man bad. That was a bond burner.
The Patriots go to Buffalo and they win. Drake May
twenty two or thirty two, seventy three. He didn't have
a touchdown, he didn't have it interception.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
A clean game.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He was snacked four times, but man Stefan Diggs gets
his revenge. He played out of his mind team ketches
for a buck forty six Josh Allen twenty two to
thirty one, two fifty three, two touchdowns one an exception.
Dalton kink led them with six ketches for a buco eight.
But I thought the Patriots played unbelie and they want
and they deserve to win this game.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
There are no more unbeaten.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
This was the last of the unbeaten and the thanks
to the New England Patriots. They go into uh Buffalo
and come away with a hard fought road division win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
O Joe.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We'll see how this thing shapes up as we move
forward down the line. But hey, New England has to
be proud of what they were able to do on
the road. What did you like about what you saw
from the Patriots?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Listen what I like from the Patriots? With drink mate everything?
Can you hear me on?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You got?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You got? Hey?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
You gotta charge some things up? Baby, let me know
where you.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Can hear me? Here we go? Hello, Yeah, I can
hear you now?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
We got time? Chat? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Chack?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Long is.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
If I'm going to dream?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Chack? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah? Well? You good?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay? Then you're good.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
You're good, You're good, You're good. Let me know you're ready.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm good, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So what I like from the Patriots was a quarterback play. Yep,
quarterback play because if you if you look around the league, right,
I'm gonna get me get back to the page. If
you look around the league, all the teams that have
a chance in winning have a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
They have consistent play at the position.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
There's a reason if you watch the game, all the
games today, including to night's game, to have a chance
to win and compete, you need a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's it. Drake May phenomenal game.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It seemed like the offense basically was was filtered in
this game through Stefan Diggs showing that he still came
up playing, he still came of making plays, and he
showed out the night. Drake May had a clean at
a very clean game. Buffalo obviously some unfortunate turnovers. The
Patriots had turnovers as well. What's what's Stevens his first name?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Romandre?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had some costly turnovers, but it
didn't affect him when it comes didn't affect him when
it comes to, you know, winning the game.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
It could have been costly.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Outside of that, the Patriots played a really really good game,
especially on defense as well.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They did a great job of containing Josh and containing
those receivers wherever they got, wherever they caught the ball
at they made sure they didn't do a great get
run after the catch. I think securit got away with
like one time. But you're right, oh Joe, when you
have a quarterback, when you have a calming I mean
you look at the way Drake May played a hostile
environment against the division rival. He was twenty two or
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thirty two, seventy three. Although he didn't throw a touchdown,
he didn't turn the ball over, He didn't put the
ball in harm's way. The last thing that you can
do is turn the ball over. Now it negated. I
mean you mentioned Romandre Stevenson. He turned the ball over.
But when you get three, turner was when you forced three.
Now you greatly increase your chances of winning because you've
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offset you. Now your plus two could have been plus three,
but your plus two in the turnover battle.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Buffalo did not.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You know, I wasn't surprised that James Cook couldn't get
going because the Patriots are really good against the run.
That defensive minded head coach, he was a great he
was a look. I played against Brabel, yeah, and he
was solid o Joe. If he's supposed to be in
the flat, he had his ass in the flat. If
he was supposed to be in the hook, he was
gonna be in the hook. If his job was to
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set the edge, you weren't go hooking. So and he coaches.
He asked his players to be smart, He asked his
players to be disciplined, and you can see it coming through.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They played really well. The Patriots gonna be looked.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I thought the Patriots would be good if they got
to hold a head coach. Yes, because that quarterback has
he has it, great potential, but brave but brable man.
And they got a guy, a number one receiver in
Stefan Diggs that made every play that needed to be
made tonight. They had him for a sack. He was
just trying to throw the ball away and somehow he
gets it. The digs and dig picks up fourteen yards
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and that was the start. Sometimes, don't you know, in
a situation too many drill like that, Yes, that's the
start you need. You need that one positive play to
start to try to kick it off. You know what,
we're gonna win this game. Man, That ain't supposed to
happen like that, not at all. And they and they
got it going from there. But if you have to
be impressed with what you saw from the Patriots, now, hell,
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I'm thinking about how the hell y'all lose two games
when y'all played like this? Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
And the funny thing about it is, I like the jump,
the jump that Drake May is made from year one
to year or two, and having games like this is
only going to continue to build his confidence. And when
you have games like this, you have an officer of
coordinator like Josh Daniels and you're able to make some
of the throws you made the night. To have a
clean game like this, he can add more to your plate.
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He can add more to your plate, and you can
do more offensively. So the Patrio's going to be hell
to deal with for the foresee of your future. As
long as Drake May continues to stay upright and stay healthy,
and you have players like as.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Long as long as they don't turn the ball over,
be all right. At the end of the day, is
still about turnovers.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yes, most definitely, most definitely, We're just.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Leave it through the computer. You get to purchase some
new ones. I don't know what's going on with those.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
O Joe, you got me, Yeah, I got your baby.
I'm here, I'm here. My AirPods. My AirPods are shot.
So I'm I'm coming through the computer right now.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Good, I'm coming through the computer too. You good?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Good?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now you look Buffalo, I don't look. Yeah, you turned
the ball over.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And hey they had three right three, Josh fumble, he
threw a pick.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Jones a great jump on the ball. But when you
bro when you.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And what Josh had done, say, the last fifteen to
sixteen games, he's done a great job of taking care
of football.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You've been cleaning.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And that's the way because these teams it's hard for
you to turn the ball over and win in today's game, Yes,
because for the most part, you're going up against the
team that got a quarterback that I'm not saying Drake May. Obviously,
Drake May is not on the level of Josh Allen,
but he can play well enough. If you give them
let them be plus two. You can't put him in
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harm's way. You're gonna catch hill beating them.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
You know what the good thing is when you have
a quarterback like Josh Allen. He's one of the few
quarterbacks that can have a three turnover game and still.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Overcome overcome it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yes, you'n still overcome it because of how well that
team is run in some of the plays that he
can make not only with his arm, but hell, you
can make it in his legs too.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, they did a great job of neutralizing his legs tonight.
Oh Joe, he did have a long of nineteen, but
nine for fifty three. It really didn't hurt him. They
did a great job of containing him. He didn't beat them.
They didn't give up the big the big chunk he
runs to James Cook. But I thought the Patriots they
deserved to win this game. They did a great job
getting the ball for forcing Buffalo to settle for the
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field goal and not getting in the end zone and
needing a touchdown in order to win.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The ball game.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So give their defense credit because when they needed to
boat their back and they did to help them to
what made them kick what three two field goals? Yeah,
two field goals that could have easily you know, turning
the touchdown because that's what the Bills normally do when
they get down there, because Josh is so dynamic with
his legs and his arm, they put you, they put
you under the gun. But the Patriots today was able
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to neutralize that. It's like, nah, bro Na' not, We're
not We're not going for that today. You know, Buffalo
Bills get a very tough victory on the road against
a division opponent by the score of twenty three to twenty.
They basically walk it off. He was ten seconds left
and so unless something unforeseen were to happen, they weren't
going to win this game. So you know, the Patriots, congratulations,
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they got people's attention.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
O Joe. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Absolutely. And you know what else I like about Drake
May two.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
What's the thing the one thing a defense tried to
do to rattle a young quarterback, especially only in his
second year. You bring pressure, You bring pressure, And every
time they brought pressure, he found a way.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
To beat it.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Every time, even though he was getting flushed out the
pocket because there was a man, there was always a
man that was free, that was coming, he still found
a way to make a play. And if there wasn't
anything there, he didn't put the balls in arms away.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh yeah, they But Buffalo goes to five four and one.
Patriots move up to three and two. See how this
thing shapes out. I still believe Buffalo is the class
of that division. It probably is not going to be
as easily as we previously thought. Oh Joe, how didn't
(14:14):
I tell you what Bronco country?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Hey, listen, listen, do do me a favor. This is
now what you're gonna have to do. This is the
one game I wasn't able to see. This is the
one game I wasn't able to watch because while they
were playing, obviously I was giving my PEP talk to
my team in the locker room, so I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Able to We just want to talk to him anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Not This is the one game I couldn't see. But
but you got there. You got to give me.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Give me in context, what happened, how the game went?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Why they defense dominated?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, uh, they sat Jalen Hurt six times, six six times.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So now you talk about they sacked Jaylor Hurt six times.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
With next times Boddido got him two and a half times.
Hold on with that offensive line six times. We got
the best that front folk that front folk, we got yeah,
get home, got home. Okayan had six carries for thirty yards.
They had eleven rushes for forty five yards. So what
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they did is that they listened to y'all, man.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Throw them all, throw them all, throw them all. That's
not what they do. They throw when they want to,
not when they have to.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And even though they the Broncos let them get out there,
they had a seventeen to three league Broncos said, now
we're gonna shut y'all.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Don We're gonna give y allno how many yards they have.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
The second half if you take that last drive out,
because at one point I think they had like forty
yards in the second half.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait,
let me catch up night because you're talking too fast.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Go ahead, Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
They had a seventeen three ed. The Eagles had a
seventeen three.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Seventeen three. Let me tell you how confident the Broncos were.
They scored and went for two. Did they get got it?
Eighteen seventeen? Then they kicked the field goal.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Wait, so at what point if they were seventeen three,
did they get it?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Was seventeen to three? They scored a touchdown, made it
seventeen ten. Scored another touchdown with for two to make
it eighteen seventeen. Stopped them, made them punt go three
and out, got the ball back, drove down the field,
kicked the field.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Goal, so they got They went up seventeen three. Right
the way they got up seventeen three. Was it on
the ground and through the air or was a combination
of it?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Read?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
They ran like a double move just on Sa Sa
Kuan motion out the backfield, kind of made it like
a double move on the line back of where he
ran out of the back, swung out the backfield and
made like a double move beat the linebacker for a
forty seven yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Dallas guard that caught one. You know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
They run that zone read and then the tight end
like he's gonna block, but he goes slides to the flag.
They got a couple of times, but it wasn't really nothing.
I mean, no big plays, uh Man. I was watching
a J. Brown, Yes, sir, Man, ad ran a slant,
a under and a slug. That's the only thing I
saw him running. He didn't run the curl run. He
run the curl to a slag or under at a slug.
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That's it, that's it, and he we had Look, they
taken advantage of Riley Moss, Riley Moss, what I mean,
most of the yards came on Riley Moss. He gave
up a deep play the Davante and whoever else. But hey,
but you know number two, he ain't nobody getting nothing
on him.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, you got something on me. They ran aj on
the under.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, he kind of picked because you know he started
out there and then Smitty running the rubs and so
he had to fight through that. But what nothing happened?
I was I was surprised how many times they sacked him.
Le Bronco sacked Jalen Hurd six times and batted down
nine of his thirty eight passes. U Benito led the
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way with two and a half sacked. He had six
sacks in the past three games. He leaves the league
if I'm not mistaken, with seven. The Eagles managed just
forty two yards in the fourth quarter. That's including that drive, right,
that's including that drive.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
At the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Forty forty two yards in forty two What do you
what do you think they should have done better?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Should they they? They should have should have played Broncos.
They should have put the Broncos on the schedule. That's
what they should have done. Then let's start with that.
Hold On, I'm trying. I'm trying to understand. What is
it that the Eagles didn't do that. They didn't do that.
If you watched the Broncos Monday night, what they did
to your team, they did worse. They did worse to
the Eagles as far as bum rushing them.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Right, but you have to understand, my team is handicapped,
so there's a reason why your Broncos beat us.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So well, what was the Eagles excuse because we did
it to them? Two?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Okay, let's not get beside ourselves. Now, that's Notorland Sudden.
Courtland Sutton was mosting your guy, quinn Yon.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Get it at.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Hold On, he mosting you show any kind of way
I gotta see. I gotta see the film.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Do you watch it?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I gotta see the all twenty two to get it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Sudden he follows Sudden around the whole game.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, okay, but listen, what's what's gonna happen is when
you have games like this, Keyon missing right now on
the way he playing, the way he's played the first three,
four weeks, whatever it is, out of I forgot.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Week four, right, week five? Okay, we we we five
his first four weeks.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
That young bull, young bullet is in the conversation for
top five this early, this early in his career.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's very good, He's very talented, phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Hey, listen, I hate to do comparison, but if I'm
gonna compare key On Mitchell to somebody on the field,
he's just.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Like goddamn Denzel Ward.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Damn there from a technical standpoint, in the old position
to make a play.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So if Courtland Sudden did.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Have eight for eight for ninety nine of where it
may have been, maybe because jumpball would be his strength
and that was Yeah, that wouldn't be Mis's strength because
that advantage goes to Courtland Sutton, who is the taller,
bigger individual. But listen, he can lose a game. He
can lose a game.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But but see now, now AJ can get their attention.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You see when we when we have to throw and
they know we have to throw, it's a different ball game,
you see. Oh no, bro, people ain't gonna let sat
Quan go crazy like he went last year. You know, uh, uh,
Dickerson is in and out of the lineup where you
know he got hurt, had the surge, you got nicked again.
He's out. You're right guard, Mackay Becton. He left with
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the Chargers. Lane Johnson been dealing with stuff all year long,
so he hasn't kind of been the Lane Johnson that
we used to see.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's not that's not the.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Same Eagles lineup, and so the uh what started at
the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They taking the lumps and bruises. They're taking some mumps
right now. Uh. They sacked Boat twice. But I thought I.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Thought overall he played well. He missed the throw here there.
It looks he's only in his second year. But to
go on the road and do that u in a
hostile environment to the team that won the Super Bowl
last year, the Broncos had to be They have to
feel really good about what they were able to do today.
They like if I'm Sean paying them saying, see, this
is what we're capable of doing. We we don't have
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to take a back seat to anybody. When we have
a great week of practice, when we pay attention to details,
when we take care of what we're supposed to take.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Care of, clean game, no turnovers.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We can go, we can go on the road, or
we can be anybody anywhere at any time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I like it. I like it. I listen.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
What I wouldn't do is that what I wouldn't get
too high up on my bridges.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Don't count your chicken before you don't. Don't count your
egg before. Don't catch your chicken before the egg.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
How you said? You said out of saying, go, don't
count your chicken before they hatch.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, don't do that, y'all. Y'all want to y'all listen, y'all, y'all,
y'all beat the Super Bowl champs. But when it comes
time when we talk about after Thanksgiving, when real football
season starts, we talk about playoff football, are y'all still
gonna be in the chase?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Y'all know who won't y'all won't be listen?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
First of all, who is y'all we talked about? We
talked about the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We see where we are. You'll see what we are.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
With, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Two and three?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Who told you that don't with y'all three and two
better than y'all whatever, whatever y'all are, we not okay, okay,
y'all don't know what we are. I don't know what
we are. Off the top of my head. We are
what y'all are. So let me tell you something. Are
you excited? You excited?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Where you all at right now? You're happy about today's win?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Everything I told you?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I said, don't joe, y'all when y'all first two games
and y'all losing the next three chat?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Did I tell that hold on?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Hold on?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
This is what you're not gonna do. This, this is
what we're not gonna do. See in the chat, should
have a better understanding for me. For me, I have
to my faith is always gonna lie with my bangles.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Do you hear me?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
If I cut myself right now, I'm gonna bleed orange
and black. See that's what's gonna happen. So I understand.
I understand that you understand as well our.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Chances of continuency and winning games.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
So our quarterback playing, he's out. He's out now, I
know he's out. But I still have to keep my
faith and my love and my allegiance to my team.
Unlike most people, when the quarterback goes down, they like
to jump ship.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What a shore right there?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
When they when they when they're going to win another game,
when they when day when they're.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Going to win another game?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Birth if there was any more time on o'clock whenever
we get to that game. We'll talk about that when
we get to that game.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Talking about that boy, y'all could have played another y'all
could have played another four quarters.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They should. You better be glad they took a knee.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Hey be careful, because if we played another four quarters,
we might have come back and won that game.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They could have played till tomorrow, and y'all still wouldn't
winning that game. You don't do that.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
You saw you saw you saw number six and the
number one, and they they started, they started getting that chemistry.
They started, they started to get going. You saw that, right,
And we are not the high school class.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Hold on, are we are we on? Are we on
the game? Now? Are we on the on?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Wait on?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Nobody talk about no beingles right now? We got other
good games and talking about talking about the bombs. Let
me know I'm about to get okay, I'll let you
know right now. You don't know, so I ain't let
you know. So you don't know. Okay, you a good guy.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
How y'all do it? Chat?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Hey, hey, hey you and you show and you show
is happy about that?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Goddamn that got them? Oh whaah? Whoa? I mean, what happened?
Don't you got an do? That's you?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Always? That's you?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Always praise you, always hoop and all about why whoa?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Whoa?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh Joe, this is so unnecessary. I'm just, oh my gosh,
why listen. I'm just calm down.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
And you mighty happy about the Bronco But we still
got the team that you claimed.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't know what's going on? Chat, I really don't. Oh, oh,
don't worry about it. We'll get to it. What's the
next game we talking about?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I mean, it's not that serious, guy, it's not that serious.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's serious. It's serious. Pull out Sharaba's home in that.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Wa We discussing the Bronco. We talked about Bronco Country.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
We talked, Hey, that game is over, let's talk about Charabas.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Whoa damn?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, not aj Brown, but the Vontae Smith had plenty
to say about Jalen Hurst's lack of communication after the
team's first lost. There are times we're looking at him
and he may give a signal before we are or
after we look at Ultimately, we have to be on
the same page. We have to see that signal no
matter what. It's just little things within the routes. He
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may have seen something pre snap and sometimes we didn't
see it. Hurt said doesn't remember any of those things happening,
and that he likes to have to talk to Smith
to see what he's referencing. O.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Joe, first, it was aj Now de Vonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are you surprised that because here's the thing, Oh Joe, Now,
this is not a situation where Davonte and A. J.
Smith the first year players. Jayleen Hurst is the first
year player. They've been together for three years. This this
what whatever he's referencing, and we don't know. Jayleen Hurst say,
(26:41):
I don't know what he's talking about, but whatever the
case may be, there should not be miscommunication at this
level and this time of the year with those three
especially not a year three two not.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
This is one of the things that a lot of
Eagles fans, and I would love Eagle fans understand. Listen
as receivers, you know, they love the U This moniker,
Oh he's a diva. Oh hee's selfish. No, all players,
all players want to be able to contribute on Obviously,
the winning is good and you have a formula and
the way you win, in the way.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
You do things, that is the Eagles success. That's the success. Obviously,
the players, especially.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Your one A and your one B, they want to
contribute and they want to be part of that. The
fact that they run the ball so much. When it
is time to throw, you want everything to be as
perfect as possible, and it just hasn't been that. So
the communication in which A J and Devonte Smith and
General Hurst might be lacking because that's not the focal
(27:38):
point of the offense. It's not the focal point of
the offense. So there might be some great areas in
that area that are never really addressed because that's not
the way they do things in general. But listen, I
think it's something that they will get fixed. I think
it's something that they will get fixed. Stuff like this.
(27:58):
It shouldn't be it shouldn't be out. It shouldn't be
he said publicly, because it should be handled internally. But
the fact that their focal point is always we're the
type of team We're gonna run the ball first. We
were about everything else if the run doesn't work and
we have to abandon it, which I think that that's
what the disconnected is.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I me personally, Me personally, oh yo. I think DeVante
was trying to help Jalen by saying there was some miscommunication,
because there's no miscommunication.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
This is some blood diggity.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So he was saying, you know what, maybe we missed
the maybe we missed a signal or something that he
saw something that we didn't see. Maybe, but if it's
just now, we just looked this bad. They look bad,
o yoe. They did. There are stretches there where they
look I'm like, well, damn, did y'all practice that bad?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Hold on, you said did they practice and they look
bad when it came?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, I mean there are stretches where they look that bad.
That you that I questioned whether or not they had
been practicing when it comes to the passing game. You mean, yes, yes, okay,
but teams are not gonna let them run ojo.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You see.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And I said this, people think the way you win
a Super Bowl one year, you're gonna exactly come back
and win it. No, they're not letting sa Quan run
for one fifty one seventy five two hundred like.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
He did last year.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Every game we come every after every game Eagles game, Ojo,
we coming here.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sa Kuan did something spectacular. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Saquan hit it head on the goal post from eighty
sa Quan hit it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I got a question.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yes, if teams aren't allowing Saquon Barker to run, obviously
I do better shoot it to to talk about this game.
This is a one game I wasn't able to watch.
But if they're not allowing Saquon to run and the
front four not gonna be able to stop him, you
got to bring a safety down in the goddamn box
in order to do that.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
It's one on one on our sides. Yes, so it
wouldn't be any problem.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But you know what, Ojo, when you really look at it,
if you really look at Philly's offense, it's really simplistic.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yes, really simplicity.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
The game of football is simple. You don't have to
over coach it, you don't have to over complicate it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, but you look at you, but you look at you,
look at how I give you an example. You look
at how the Lions, how they put their players in
position to succeed. You look at some of the other
offensive coordinators and how they put their players.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Bro, you just running under you running slants, You're running slugs.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Come on, bro, Yeah, but listen, you think about the
Lions offense, and then you look at the offense of
the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
The Eagles went in a very simplistic form.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yetivity in the Lions you won in a simplistic form.
The likelihood you're gonna have to complicate. You're gonna have
to get a little bit more complicated now.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
A little bit more creative, yes, creative, yes, But listen,
the goddamn Lions when it comes to their creativity offensively,
it's a lot more complex, especially when you when you
watch it from the outside. They do a little bit
of everything they do and you never you never know
what's coming.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You never know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's not that's not the makeup, and that's not the
DNA of the Eagles in it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No they're not.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I think in order for them to get back
where they want to be, Ojo, they're gonna have to
open up this play book. They're gonna have to open
up they're gonna have to trust Jalen Hurst to throw
the ball and not when they get behind. Listen, I
don't think they want him to throw the ball thirty
eight times.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know that for certain.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's not them, that's that's not their recipere Ojo eleven carries,
They had eleven rush attempts. Saquan, who you paying twenty
million dollars a year, had six rush attempts.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Wait wait, wait, all on, So you're saying they have
been in the run too early.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
They couldn't get anything running, Okay, so you had no
choice but to throw. But now, but see we know that.
See when Saquan is running, You're like, damn, what are
they gonna do? Now? Are they gonna run it? Are
they gonna throw it? We really don't know. But they
can't run the football with Saqui. They hadn't been able
to run all year. They got really lucky in the
(31:53):
Rams gamey AJ that that that Jalen and AJ got
on the same page and AJ got hot and boom.
But but they're gonna they're gonna have They're gonna have
to be better. They're gonna have to be better than this.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
A J.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Brown getting eight targets for five catches and forty three
yards and two for eleven. And that ain't gonna cut it.
That ain't gonna cut.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
It because they not because the running game is not
successful as it was last year.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Okay, yeah, yep, damn.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But uh we just put we put you know, put
foot center. Let them know what time it was. Speaking
of disappointing teams, is they're any more disappointing team than
your Bengals? Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why we hold what? Why are we going to the
Bengal game?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
The one o'clock? That's okay?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
The ray the Ravens played at one o'clock, y'all played?
We go, we we started from we start and work
our way back. You remember how to say how we
did that? Oh that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Okay, well go ahead. Let let's let's talk about let's
talk about.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh whoa, whoa?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I mean, you do an awful lot of talking for
a team that that got beat by thirteen.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wait, boy, who Jared.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Golf was nineteen of twenty three? That means he had
four incompletions chat two hundred and fifty eight yards, three touchdowns.
Damn three David Montgomery even threw a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
So in the actuality of there.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Was twenty or twenty four two hundred and sixty four
sixty one yard four tubs zero.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I in t's.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Hey, can I can I tell you something real quick?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hey, I've been went home. He went home.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
They went home.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Hey, listen, he came home and showed out.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
He came home and showed out.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
But let's let's understand something for one before he even
start me, I got a chance to see Kirby, I
got to see Jamo, I got to see Amon Ross,
Saint Brown, got to see Terry on Arno.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Before the game, I exchanged some.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Pleasurecy with them boys, you know, and hoping and hoping
we would have had a better showing than what we did.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Now you had the showing that you had.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Listen, Jake Unk. We are not a good enough team.
We are not a good enough team to overcome three
tone overles. We're not a good enough team. We got
to be able to protect the ball. We got to
be a PROTECTI ball. God Damn Jamar, Chase Chase Brown,
Pete Ryan for theyot they thought they do you know
what off they thought that, you know what, off to
find ways to make played. Jake Brian and running for
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his life for the majority of the game and trying
to make something out of nothing. He did his best.
Chase did his best. I would love for us to
get everyone else involved. I would love for us get
everyone else involved. We have to do a better line,
a better job up front. Unk, We got to do
a better job up front. Jake Brian and running around
for his life is one of the reasons why Joe
Burrow's hurt. I'm not saying them names and not calling
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them names. For those who were able to watch the game,
you understand that. You understand that we did the best
we could as a team. Defensively, I thought we played well.
I thought we played well.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Basically, you gave up thirty seven. Yeah, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
We gave up thirty seven to a team, team that's
probably ranked number maybe one, number one.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They took a knee on the ten yard line.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I know you don't want you listen. You don't want
to be disrespectful to us.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, I want to be disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
They won the game.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's a good team. But again, I want to be
openly and blatantly disrespectful.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Okay, okay, listen, it was a great win for the Lions.
It was a great win for the Lions. I had
a great time meeting many Lions fans. You know this,
this this past three days. I salute y'all.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I love you.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
It's nothing but mutual respect for the trash talk that
that we were doing. But as you know, my faithful,
my faithfulness, and my allegiance will always lie here.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
They will always lie with this. And I got to talk.
I got to talk.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And we lost a day and and and I buy
my head with grace and and y'all won the game.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And it's nothing beloved. It's nothing beloved.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But it ain't no love. It is a hatred. No,
it ain't terrible.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
No, no, no, no, no, get all that talking now, look
at you.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's okay, listen, I can I can sit
here and say we lost.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
And I bet changed. Was the dB in high school too.
He could tackle. He had three tackles in.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
The look at one point, Chase leading leading in.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Tackles on that he playing on offense. That's okay.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I have a question for you, and Chad. I have
a question for y'all too. Do you think I love
I love Zach Taylor. I love Zach Taylor, and I
hate that people are saying, oh, the coach needs to
be fired and all this.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Listen, it don't matter who you're bringing them.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Goddamn.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
You can have Jesus coaching, but when Jesus called him plays,
it's our job to execute him. It's eleven people out
there on the field. For one ain't running no offense.
She ain't running no goddamn offense. And if he ain't
got nobody blocking for whoever at the quarterback position, we
can start there.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That ain't got shit to do with Zach Taylor. We
can start there.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
But do you think do you think we need to
make a move and go get another quarterback? I just
want to know, because we only to want.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Where you're gonna get him from Amazon?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Cause you talking, you talking like they they got one
that you can order from Amazon and they give it
to you today and you get him next day. But listen,
you know the game.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
You know the game.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I know the game. When yes, like this, do.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
You want to salvage the season in some in some
in some No.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You're not going savage? Nothing on Joe y'all gonna be
done by things. If y'all be done, y'all will be
done by Halloween. Oh listen, Joe is not coming back
this year.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I'm not talking about Joe coming back.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I'm saying getting someone in there at the quarter of
or position that can facilitate the ball and protect it
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
No, that's all why they're sticking with me.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I don't know who you're back up with with the
Jake Browning, but I don't believe you're bringing somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Off the street. Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Over the last three games, you guys have been out
scored one thirteen to thirty seven. The seventy six point
differential narrowly missed the record eighty worth three games, stretching
fat French history. Bengals have three other quarterbacks on the roster.
Brett Rippon, who played for the Broncos, Mike White, who
played for the he played for the Jets and the Dolphins,
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and Sean Clifford are on the practice squad. Jake Browning
threw three touch interceptions and he had three touchdowns in
garbage time. They don't mean nothing. Brownie was booed after
several drives in the first half. At one point he
was booed and he led the offense as he led
the offense on the field, Browning had thrown has thrown
eight interceptions in four games.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
So you heard what you just said.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
He's thrown eight interceptions in four games, and you still
think there's not a quality backup. That's one another team.
I don't want to say no names that can come
in and.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
No, cause he knows your offense the best. Your offensive line,
they still they have an address. I mean they haven't
addressed that. And your defense now good. I granted that
you you know, you turn the ball over four three
times a day, three but do you go back and
(39:07):
look at over the last but tell I mean the
Broncos beat the breaks off, y'all. The team before that
beat the breaks off.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Y'all. Y'all defense isn't any good.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I mean, I wish I could give it to and
say make it better, but I can't. Y'all, defense aren't
Your defense isn't very good. And when your defense isn't
good and your because harr's the thing, Your defense is
the worst part of your team. Your offense is bad
and turning the ball over, so the worst part of
your team is playing the most. The last thing that
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you want, O Joe. You want the best part of
your team to play the most. You want your offense
to be on the field. Now your offense is turning
the ball over, putting the worst part on the field.
I don't you know what?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
What?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Can I tell you something? Yes, I don't like the
way you worded that. I'm just saying I don't like
the where you worded that. I think I've I don't
want to say we're gonna be all.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Right, y'all.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Not let me finish, Let me finish. Let me have
a little faith. Let me let me have a little faith. Okay,
we got to have better quarterback play. The fact that
you know, Joe was out for us to even have
a chance to be able to compete every Sunday, no
matter who the hell we plan, we can't turn the
ball over.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Y'all can't trade for Andy Dalton.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Uh huh?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Where Andy at?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
We're Indy at Carolina.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
No, we need a gunslinger. We need a gun slinger.
Somebody that's that that's gonna that's gonna let that thing rip.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
You hear me, Somebody read that, someone that that is
experienced that has veteran Fred.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Now, okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
You say you want somebody to let it is gonna throw.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Now, now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Talk to him.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You're gonna have three touchdown passes. You have three otherceptions
to he gonna throw. He gonna throw for three, three fifty,
four hundred.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Four hundred here gonna throw.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
But just so you know, I'm just saying, listen, you
remember that game last year against le Broncos for ninety
seven we had three pigs in the football.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yeah, So I'm saying, what you would you rather us
us having Jamis or having someone at the quart of
position that can that can give us four ninety seven
or five hundred years passing and at least have.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Us Chasing Higgins would like that. I said, I'm sure
Chasing Higgins would like that. Somebody's gonna throw the balls, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
So if we're gonna have a chance, if you say
our defense is bad, if we're.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Gonna have a chance, we gotta throw the kitchen sink.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh well, we can salvage in this season.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
We're just two and three nine. We just took three.
You never know, you know, you never knew what happened.
If I'm not mistaken. We were second in division. Yeah, yeah,
we second in division.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Now we have time, but I don't think but given
the circumstances in this division, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
There's only one team going out of the division. Now.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It might be a situation where you get three teams
out of the AFC West, the Broncos, the Chargers, and
the Chiefs. So what you are? You just are you?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
But think about it?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oho, you got you gotta look at you gotta look
at the AFC South Jacksonville. Next one game ended, lost
one game. You saw the Texans win today?
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah? Who the Texas beat today?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Man? Texas beat? There? You go, you trying to.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Who the Texas be today?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
You know who that beat today?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I got? I Gontgomery scored a touchdown in the same
game for the fourteenth time, eyeing an NFL record.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Hey, can I tell you something you know? Can I
tell you something? You notice?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Your first time the Lions beat the Bengals in nineteen
ninety two. It won't be the last time because I
ain't never I ain't never lost team.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Y'all probably didn't never played the Lions.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
We played the Lions twice.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I had Drake Blybers on me, Drake Blybers on me,
That'm my boy and my boy when we played him.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Here in Cincinnati. But remember Louis Delmas.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, yeah, hey, hey that whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Boy.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Know we can hit boy, you know we can hit well.
We ain't never lost to them. But again, salute to
all the Lions fans.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I know it's a lot of y'all in the chat
that are watching the night. I salute you.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Y'all won the game. If I met you. It's all love,
It's all love. And I'm gonna get down to Detroit.
I promise him, I'll come down to Detroit and sit
in the stands at Ford Field and watch the game.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Cowboys go to the Metallands.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, I don't know if they call it the Metal
Lands anymore. Met Life Stadium, that's what they call it.
And they when they molly walked the Jets thirty seven
twenty two the two two and one not Cowboys. Jets
are oer and five. Dak Prescott was sensational eighteen of
twenty nine two thirty seven, four touchdowns, no interceptions. Javonte
Williams sixteen carries a buck thirty five uh. He was
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running the football. The Cowboys were missing four starters on
the offensive line, and by the time the first half ended,
the Cowboys had one hundred yard Russia and Javonte Williams
and a hundred yard receiver in Ryan floydo A and
Dak Prescott had two touchdown passes to his tight end
Jake Fergus Justin Fields was thirty two or forty six
two eighty three, two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
His offensive line is are very good. Their defenses are
very good.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I thought their defense would be better, yeah than what
is shown thus far.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
And Bran breefs Hall had fourteen carries for a buck
thirteen oh chokes for one hundred and forty four yards.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
He was total and they got blown out.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Yeah, but listen that God damn Javonte Williams.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Van Williams.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
When he run it like that, it opens up everything else.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
For that.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
He looks like the Caroline to Javonte Williams. You remember
when he came out on Yo, how he ran the football.
He was coming back off of knee surgery, so it
needed he needed to get one year removed after that
knee surgery.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Now he looks like the guy.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Hey, he was toting that thing.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And listen, you.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Come up there, you come up there to the party,
he gonna dish it. He gonna dish it.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Oh yeah, Hey, that god damn Dak looked good boy.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Oh he throw to that he was dealing.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
And that god damn Dak looked good pickings out Yo,
Ferguson out there getting jiggy.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I like I like Ferguson. I've always liked fergus he
as a rookie. Oh yoe.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
You know what annoys me with DB's what when you
get up there in press coverage and you open the door.
Oh yeah, yeah, if you gonna get in press coverage,
put your hands on the guy. If you not back
your ass off.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Wait, was it bail technique?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It was sauce. No, it wasn't bail. No he was
he was just just open the door and and picked
read right by it.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Uh he thought he thought, he thought people gonna rush.
So I'm sure, and I bet.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
If you open the door, my granty used to say
all the time, boy, open the door, flies come in the.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
House every time.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, you opened, you.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Up in press coverage, But you gotta realize if you
open the gate, the guy gotta run and start.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now you have to.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Turn and run.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You're not catching up with these top flight receivers.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Look, I don't like to be the bar of bad news.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
The saut Garden hadn't been the same since his rookie year,
if we being all the way honest, if we being
one honest, you've been the same since they started calling
all that clutching and holding, and they let him get
away with his rookie season.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Chat y'all know it, washingt Tate watching he ain't the same.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Hit the highest paid congratulations, But ain't no way I'm
putting him up there with Stingley.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I'm putting him up there with certain.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Nah.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, lit Listen. Now, I understand he might get
the he might get the call, he might get the
holding calls. He he might, you know, get beat some time.
But young Bull has paid significantly because he showed on
film he's.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Worth what he been in the same sension rookie year. Okay, okay,
watch him, watch the tape.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Look at him. He ain't been the same. He's not
not here and he.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Ain't even close. He ain't even close to certain. They
need to stop that discussion.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
That's that's two totally different bodies of working.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Certain they by himself, many by himself, Jemy. I'll just
be all the way one thousand with Joe, Joe and
and Chad Jets fans. If you being honest, y'all watched
him over the last three four years, he ain't been
the same sense of rookie year because they call all
that clutching and holding that he normally get that he
was getting away with.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
They calling it now not.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
You do understand, defensive back is the hardest position to
play on the field. Out, Yes, I do, yes, yes, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Oh Joe he makes thirty million dollars a year. Yeah, yeah,
I guess what it was hard when he was a rookie.
He was defensive Rookie of the year. Yeah, we don't.
We don't do that. Hey, as you as you make,
as you make more more as expected, don't y'all you
don't get this still, Look, you don't get to stay
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the same. You're like, well, you know, hey, no, you're
you're supposed to try to elevate. I'm gonna show everybody
why they gave me this money. Yes, they paid you
for that Defensive Player of the Year, I mean Defensive
Rookie of the Year. They paid you for that All Pro.
They're paying you now because they said, we believe moving forward,
he gonna be better than what he was to make
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us give him this money. So we're gonna be getting
them out of bargain. He's not playing well, and it's
okay to say that. For somehow we've gotten away from
like if a guy's not playing well and he's a
good player, it's okay to say he's not playing well.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Chat chat he's not. He's not. And it could be
a receiver, it could be a running back, it could
be a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm not taking because somebody's not playing away currency.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
The thing is ojoe.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
A lot of times when you say a player isn't
playing well, their fan base or family members or even
them think you're trying to discredit what they've already done.
I cannot take away that All Pro, nor would I
attempt to. I can't take away that Pro Bowl, that
Defensive Rookie of the Year. Yes you've got that, but
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what that got to do with how you playing right now?
That's still on your resume.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
You know what, I would love. I wish, I wish
I had it front of me.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
See I'm on the road, so I don't have my
other computer in front of me and look at some
of the numbers on how he's played this year. So
I would have to do my homework first, because I
don't watch the Jet significantly. I watch all the games
as a whole. You know, watching the TV copy it
doesn't give you a fair a fair way to judge
or assess how an individual players plan until you get
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to see the numbers. So I mean you would know
better than me because I haven't been able to watch
the Jets outside of Justin Fields and with Justin Fields
and Garrett Wilson are doing. So I gotta check that out.
I gotta check that out. But I know one thing.
If you you don't pay a player thirty million dollars.
I'm just saying, you don't pay a player thirty million
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dollars if he's regressing, yeah, from his rookie year. So
that that's why it's hard.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
He does not look the same.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
And I don't think I don't I don't think anybody
that watch, if they're being honest, can look at and say,
you know what, Yeah, Sauces is the same guy we
saw as a rookie.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
He's not, he is not.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Jets have employed nineteen full time coaches over six decades. Today,
Aaron Glan became the first to start his tenure with
five straight losses. Coach that is known for his defense,
The Jets are paced to allow the most points in
franchise history. Glenn states that he has no plans for
taking over play.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Call him from d C.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Steve Wilks, O, Joe, We've seen very few black coaches
get tied to figure things out? Do you believe because
we saw Steve Wilkes in Arizona, we saw last year coach.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Uh in In in New England?
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Do you believe that he's gonna get an opportunity to
figure this thing out?
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Absolutely absolutely. It's his first year. And obviously it was
Steve Wilkes first year. It was what's the what was
the coach in New England last year?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Mao? It was his first year.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Yeah, But obviously, you know, they want they want they want.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Okay, so what if what so? What if what if
another coach is out there? You say they wanted Rabel, Okay,
what if they want somebody else?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
And he's available.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
I don't know, I don't know if any if anything,
you would think the Jets would have a head start
and have success on the defensive side of the ball
because that's what that's that's what that was their identity,
that's always been their identity. The defense is really good.
The defense really good. I'm not sure what's going on now.
But if there's one thing you you probably thought you
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wouldn't have to worry about when it came to the
football season or this season starting, is it just defense?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (52:29):
Just focus on offense and hoping justin field, justin fields?
Is your answer for the for seer of the future.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, the Jets had us fool of Ojoe because we
looked at men when they had Zach Wilson and they said,
ooh if they and I'm saying, that's it here, and
that's what that's what made him go out and get
Aaron Rodgers. I say, now, but you say you're under
the premise that the defense is gonna be just as good,
if not better, because if they have any slippage, that
the quarterback is not gonna be able to overcome that.
That defense hadn't been the same since you got to
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go back, Zach Wilson, you gotta go way way back
to talk about that defense. Don't nobody fear that defense?
Now they don't. Justin Field's constantly running for his life.
Sacked five times for forty nine yards. It's their mess. Yeah,
there are.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
Hey, you know another thing too.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
I'm not officer coordinator on but most of the time
you have officer lines.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I think.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
I think about the Bengals, I think about the Jets.
I think about other quarterbacks that are in situations where
the officer lines aren't that good. I don't understand, for
the life of me, if you know, if you know,
the officer's life not good, put your quarterback under settle
and just run quick game.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Just run quick game.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I don't understand what happened though.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
They fell behind so quick.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
They couldn't get to.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Breis Hall had fourteen cares for a buck thirteen. But
you behind, I mean that was behind. I mean Dallas.
The score was twenty three to The score was twenty
three three at down. The score was thirty to six
at the end of the fourth. At the end of
the third quarter, how the hell we gonna run the ball?
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Low?
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (54:01):
We down twenty three, three and a half, we down thirty.
We found thirty to six in the third quarter. Ain't
no more running.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
You ain't got no choice.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Run your ass and get open. That's what the running
you do it the running backs. I'm sorry you blocking
or you're chipping your way out that it is what
it is.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Yeah, and you know it's funny, but see, maybe the
Bills are built a little different. A high percent of
the time, anytime Josh Shatton is in shotgunn it's a pass. Yes,
A high percent of the time. Anytime is down the center,
it's a run.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
Every so often he'll be shot.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
You're trying to throw you off, Yeah, and then definitely
tell to you.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
But I don't I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
It's still very early in the season.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
But now that we're in week five, everybody should Everything
should be churning. Offenses should be churning. You should be
hitting your stride, you should be hitting your rhythm. At
this point, defenses should be ahead of the eight ball
because all you got to do is read and react.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Said, and sometimes O Joe, you know you have these
expectations of defense, but you don't really know.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
You hope you think that teams.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Because every year we have a team that comes up,
our springs, up out of nowhere, makes the playoffs. We
have an offense that like, damn, I didn't know they
had this in them, or we have a defense, and
then we have teams that we expect take a step back,
be an offensively defense or to team as in totality.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
I thought the Jets would be better. They got to
do better than this.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
Son, were you er and five? You know how difficult
it is to climb out of a hole.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Oh Joe, you do realize in order to be five hundred,
you'd have to win five straight? Five straight? What's the likelihood? Hell,
they can't win one of the row? How the hell
they gonna win five of the row? And it doesn't
get any easier? Ask what's the schedule? The just next
five games? They are they got so guess what? They
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go to Denver at Broncos. You know what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (56:09):
They okay, home to the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
They're gonna beat y'all. They gonna beat y'all.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Oh, they got y'all on the schedule. Who Jets?
Speaker 4 (56:18):
They plan they playing in Cincinnati?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
They planning uh. In Cincinnati, Okay, they got Broncos, Panthers,
Brink Bingals Browns.
Speaker 4 (56:31):
Oh, that's tough, that's tough. They might be, they might be.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh, we know one thing the Broncos can get after
your damn quarterback.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Absolutely and jam Hurts mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (56:47):
Well and listen you you got you.
Speaker 5 (56:49):
The one thing you do have for Jamen hurt for
about Jayleen Hurts, for Justin Fields is he can run,
he can move.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
Well, they don't give him a chance move because by
the time you get to snap somebody, if it's somebody
on it in his face. Yeah, yep, damn.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Well you you you want to do everything you can
to start fast.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
But a whole.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
Oh yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
It's hard. It's hard. Then you got a whole.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
It's an over and five. In New York, yep, man, please.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oh Joe, the Texans dismantled a beat up Ravens teams
forty forty ten. Don't do that, shocky, don't do that.
Don't do don't do that.
Speaker 5 (57:35):
Don't do that, because when you talked about the Bengals,
you didn't say beat up.
Speaker 4 (57:39):
You just said lost to the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (57:41):
Just say that, Houston Texans dismantled the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Don't beat up. You're gonna let me. You're gonna let
me finish your read the dough.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, finish, finish it.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
Try to Altimore down to a shocking what I for
a record? The Texans scored six touchdowns in four games.
It's scored five today. The forty four points is the
most by team in a home game in the John
Harbor eighteen season era. The Ravens are on pace thirty
five point four points per game to shatter the Panthers
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twenty twenty four NFL record most points allowed five hundred
and thirty four, John Harbor said. John Harbaugh said after
the thirty four point loss that Zach Orr will remain
the defensive coordinator. I don't think that's the answer. We
have to go to work is what we need to do.
We need to stick together is what we need to do.
We need to find find ourselves and that has to
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do with coaches players working together. Absolutely well.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
Listen, I don't want you to say foot or ball
with that ravens helmet.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Go get that ravens helmet for me.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Get is in the closet. Is it the closet.
Speaker 5 (58:51):
Wait, that's exactly where it we belonged, trapped in the closet.
Y'all was a businal today. Y'all were horrible today, y'all
were horrible offensive.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Y'all will he up.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
With the harbor all sides of the ball. CJ.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Stroud, This was the best CJ. Strouders. Look Visius Rookie.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
Year, Wookie Year. I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Twenty three or twenty seven, two hundred and forty four yards,
four touchdowns, no interception, He was sacked twice. He was
had a ninety nine point nine QBR. They ran the
ball thirty three times for a buck sixty seven. Nico
Collins had a touchdown. Hutchinson had two touchdowns. Noel had
a touchdown. Cooper Rush. I don't know who. Look, we
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don't need to talk about this, but we know Cooper
Rush is not the answer. If Cooper Rush is the answer,
I need to know the question that you're asking. Oh anyway,
he was fourteen or twenty one, seventy nine, three interceptions,
sacked once. Dack Henry had fifteen rushes thirty three yards
and a touchdown. Key On Mitchell had three for eight yards.
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Justice Hill had won for three yards. Zay Flowers had
five catchers for seventy two yards, d Hot two for
forty six.
Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Wait a minute, how many interceptions did Cooper Rush have three?
How many interceptions did Jake Browning have three? Okay, so
so that means that means they scored forty four. Y'all
ain't scored forty four on us.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
It took me on the ten yard line. What they
joking me? On a ten yard line?
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Y'all?
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Y'all coach, you didn't know you couldn't put the ball,
and y'all putt the ball and we didn't land in
the landing area, and so they got the ball down
to the ten yard line.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It could have scored again on you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
He scored forty four on your team. Forty four.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
That's not your team. That's not your team.
Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
They scored forty four on your team.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Oh okay, I thought you said that was your team.
Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Listen you you're talking with a little too much volume
in and basically for fourteen that just lost forty four
to ten.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, bet look.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, oh Joe, you already down Vanoy madabek humph and
you're safe to Kyle Hamilton. Yeah, So you're down four
starters there, and you're down Lamar Jackson, and your defense
was already struggling. So you're down four started on the
defensive side of a defense that's already struggling. Well, wait
(01:01:21):
a minute, it ain't gonna get no better.
Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
It wasn't gonna get no better even if they was healthy,
because when everybody was healthy, they still wasn't doing nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
They still wasn't about nothing. Now the only chance you do.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I'm glad you said that because they remind you of
the Bengals, right, because when Joe Burrow was healthy there
last year, they would give thirty a game.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Let me finish, let me finish any chance y'all do
have the only promising hope for Ravens fans for that organization.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
To even compete.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Well, you need eight what you got to have Pomperos
finals out there in order to compete.
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Well, it doesn't look like he brought probably be back.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
How long are you gonna be out that?
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I don't know, say one of two weeks, one of
three weeks, and all of depends on how how hold on? Oh,
Kyle Benoy played it that he got a sago. Oh oh,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Say and it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Hang, it ain't helped go?
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I mean they needed more.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Uh look, ain't no, ain't no easy way to say this.
But it's not gonna get better for the Ravens. Ooh yeah,
I know. It's not that they're not getting they're not
going to get better. And it seems like that lost
open the night that they had that lead, it took
a lot out of them.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You hate to say one game, o Joe, but you
were in this situation.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Remember you had it, had them on the ropes last
year in the playoff game and you lose that one
in heartbreaking fashion.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
You had a big lead in the.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Game, starting them what was that Sunday night? And you
lose that one and they really never got their footing
back after that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah, what's Baltimore? Give me?
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Baltimore's the next five games? Ash, it doesn't look like
it's gonna getting it better. Oh it's not.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
It's definitely not. It's gonna get better for us before
it get better for y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I can say.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I could.
Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I can tell you that, and I say I say
that in a respectful manner as someone who loves the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Rams.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
They got the Rams next, that's a loss. Bears, that's
a loss. Vikings Dolphins, Oh, Dolphins, that's a win. They
got the Dolphins. That's a win. Okay, I might get Vikings,
then Brown and then Brown's, Oh they're gonna beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Everybody to beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
So y'all, y'all got y'all gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Go, oh, why are you talking? Your Dolphins got crushed?
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
They did?
Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Carolina beat them man.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Discover twenty seven, twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
You talk about crushed. They wouldn't have to lead.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Huh, y'all would lead?
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
I know, But well you said we got crushed. We
ain't get crushed. And the Panthers been playing some good ball.
Well you see, Bryce, y'all what you talk about? It
ain't like, oh, the Dolphins got crushed.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
No, the paths Dolphins got beat Arolina. Carolina put foot center.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Hold on Carolina, the same team that just beat the
goddamn Atlanta Falcons thirty was it thirty eight or thirty?
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Es talk about the Falcons. I'm talking about their Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I know. You know what yo, all your teams, the
Bengals and the Dolphins combined.
Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Oh about I know you're not talking because we just
talked about your Ravens. Listen, the Bengals don't have we
don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Oh, the Ravens got the quarterback. The Ravens got a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Let me.
Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
I mean your defense bad though, you talking about you're
talking about the Bengals defense.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Look at y'all defense.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
What you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oh yo?
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
But see your thing was the Dolphins were up seventeen nothing.
Oh look at it now, now look at at it. Nah,
look game Hey we was up seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it will happen.
Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
It seemed like Brece Young did it. We did he
needed to do.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
No, no, Look the Texans.
Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
The way the Texans played, this is the way people
expected CJ to play his second year, right the way
he played today. This is the best CJ. Stroud has
looked since his rookie season. They ran the ball thirty
three times for one hundred and sixty seven yards. Nick
Chubb eleven for sixty one. I mean, look, Nick Chubb
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was really you know, the only thing CJ had one
had one run for thirty yards.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
He looked pretty fast to me. I guess he found
the fountain of youth. Though.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Over the last couple of days but anyway they look
they this was a total team where they was dominating.
They've dominated, ain't no where around it. They dominated the
ball game. CJ was poised in the pocket. He only
missed two throws.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
And then you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Get the ball, you run the ball for over one
hundred and fifty yards, and then you sacked the quarterback.
You only sacked the quarterback once. But I'm trying to
figure one hundred and seventy nine plus forty four. They
barely had over to They barely had over two hundred
yards total offfense. When you go on the road, you
can go into a team's building and hold them that,
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you know, one hundred and seventy nine yards passing forty
four yards rushing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, you did something good.
Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Hey, what I told you before the season started, Before
the season started, what team did I have high praise
for in the watch out.
Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
For Carolina Bears?
Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Bigo?
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
That was it?
Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I told y'all, I told you, Like you said,
there's always a team that comes out of nowhere that
surprises us, right, told y'all, I told y'all, told you,
I told you what Carolina we was gonna do.
Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Now now I know they beat my team.
Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, they did beat them, breaks off them. Hold on,
butch was seventeen.
Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
Hey, listen, we're missing a key ingredient. Were missing a
key component to offense, a game changer.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
We missed. He ain't coming back, so getting y'all they
was getting beat with him in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Ain't know what you just told me. Hold on, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
CJ was twenty three of twenty seven two forty four,
four touchdowns, zero interceptions. Davis Mills comes in two of
four to twenty three yards. So as a team that
was twenty five or thirty one, two fifty four touchdowns.
Like I said, CJ looked very good today. He's very comfortable.
You can't if I mean coach, he can't complain. He
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ain't got nothing to say. He say, Hey, guys, this
is the way I expect us to play. This is
how I expect us to look, regardless of who we play,
regardless of where we play. This is the level is
that we should this is the level we should hold
ourselves to.
Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Yea, that's the first thing I'm gonna say regards to
who you play, because remember everybody's heard it for the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
So looking like you look today, looking like you look today.
Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
You're supposed to when all the starters on out, When
all the elite players defensively are out against the team,
that's healthy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Sometimes what do we seeing teams do play down to
the level of competition, competition? They all them guys out.
You mentioned Lamar being out. You're missing mentioning those defensive
guys being out. Be hell out of them because see
now John Harbro can't go in there and lie to them. Guys,
we were close. All we need to do is stick together.
No hell no, I'm all beat you so bad. You're
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gonna start the splinter. You're gonna start the point fingers.
You're gonna start to look at each other. Man if
he gets if he's if he studying like he's supposed to.
If man, I wonder if he give it an that's
the kind of doubt. That's what I try to sow.
I'm not playing down to the competition. If your guys
are not in there, I'm trying to hang half one
hundred on you.
Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
And the funny thing about it is when you have
when you when you have injuries, right, the first thing
people do when you have injuries and things aren't going well,
The first thing they say, but we need to change
a position coach, or we neednain defensive coordinator, when that's
not the problem.
Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
That's never been the problem. I don't care who's calling
the plays.
Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
It's up to those that are on the field to
execute whatever it is called.
Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Everybody has an assignment, everybody has the job to do.
When all eleven people are doing their job collectively the
right way, winning their individual battles every down, down one, down, two,
down three, everything will work fine. But sometimes it takes
having your starter is in there to do it the
right way right when they're out.
Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
They back up for a reason. They third string for
a reason.