February 1, 2025 • 50 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the NFL season including, Carolina Panthers QB Bryce Young gets benched, Unc and Ocho rip Kyler Murray for saying it’s not his responsibility to get rookies the ball, Miami Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill gets detained and much more!
03:50 - Bryce Young gets benched
17:43 - Caleb Williams struggles utilizing college football strategy
20:30 - Shannon goes off on Kyler Murray
28:28 - Tua suffers from a concussion
33:00 - Tyreek Hill gets detained
48:10 - Anthony Richardson says college football was harder than the NFL
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the Kansas City Chiefs will facing the Super Bowl are
the Philadelphia Eagles. Time for me to go, Coach Tyree
Wild without punctuation. Dolphins fans panic, wondering if he was
telling Mike McDaniel if it's time to need miamis to
us suffering another concussion heading into week eight, Derick Henry's
own pace to break the record is it Mike McCarthy
the side of the finch Bryce Young less than twenty
(02:44):
four hours. He didn't concern himself about culture. They punished
George Dickens. The night Rice young Er temporarily has been halted.
Dave Kanalis decided to bench Bryce Young. That's the twenty
four hours after telling everyone he's starting to the red rifle.
(03:07):
Andy Dalton is being named the team starter quarterback moving
forward this season. Young was reportedly shocked by the bench
and told and sources told Jordan Shulkes it came out
of nowhere. Nah actually didn't. If you go back and
look at your play, look at them they it ain't
come out of nowhere. No one anticipated the plug. Oh,
no one anticipated the plug being pulled after just two
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games with a new coaching staff, but a reminder that
the Patriots panther excuse me, traded so much to get him.
They traded DJ Moore, twenty twenty three first round pick,
which was Darnielle Wright, a twenty twenty three second round
pick was was Tyreek Stevens. I think he's a starter,
twenty twenty four first round pick overall pick Caleb Williams,
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and a twenty twenty five second round to that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You don't do that. You don't do nobody like that.
For one, I'm gonna start with David A. Temple because
what David.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Tempa is doing.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's insubordination.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't even know what that mean, but it sounds
like it fits for this goddamn scenario.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, he can't in subordinate because he's the higher up, the.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Higher up, And that's the problem, because now you're pointing
the fingers at Bryce Young like Bryce Young is the issue.
That's not the issue. That's not the issue. Quarterbacks before
Bryce Young got there.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I thought there was a problem. Who is the quarterback
before Bryce Young?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ah Man, they had Sam Donald, they had keep going.
I don't I don't know who. I don't I don't
really know who came directly after Cam.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That's the hope, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's been a revolving door of quarterbacks not having success
because they don't have what they needed around them to
be successful. There was a reason he was able to
get Bryce Young because he's the number one even the
number one pick for a reason.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You were able to have in the more pick for
a reason.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So now you expect Bryce Young to come in had
a coach, had a different coaching staff last year you hired.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Dave canelis right. You bring him in, let him play
two games. He has nothing surrounding him to help him.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But now you're gonna bench him and you're gonna start
Andy Dalton Like that's going to answer problem.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's going to answer the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No, fix the ship around him and then you put him,
put him in an environment, and I guarantee you you'll
find success.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Oh Bryce Young is an issue. Then people say about
oh he too short, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He can't see Hello. How tall is kyl of Murry?
How tall is Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I well, we know, we know he taller than Kler Murray.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He absolutely is that the reason it's not Bryce Young? Now,
Now what I will say, if you turn the tape on,
there will be some discript in his play.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
His confidence is shot man.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And this is no disrespect to any of the receivers
that are on the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
No, listen, no disrespect. You know I love you, know
how I feel about you, even if I don't know
you personally. But he has you know what. I ain't
gonna say that because I don't want to be disrespected.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think the thing is the question is if Andy
Dalton is the is the answer? I need to know
the question. Hold on, I'm just gonna keep it. Hey,
y'all know what we do. I keep it. I can
so if he the answer, what listen.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think having a veteran presence, I'm not sure what
the Panther is going to do going forward, maybe allowing
Bryce Young to sit for a year watching watching the
media outlets and some of the pundits, some of the
analysts are saying Bryce Young time and Caroline.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is but they want everybody to play because everybody think
they're gonna get c J. Stroud. The problem is, O Joe,
is that people forget do you real live? Patrick Mahomes said,
is except one game.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But that's not what they do with rookies this year. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They don't even give the rookies time to develop and
learn from the sideline. If you get drafted number one,
they throwing you to the wolves. They throwing you to
the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Carson didn't start. Carson didn't start the whole year.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, so times have changed now. For one, the money
that's being invested in these players. You know, we're paying
you so much. We need you to go out there
right now and earn that paycheck. You need to earn
what you're making.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's okay if you go to a team that is
combatant with weapons around you that you can use your disposal.
That makes your job easier. What Bryce Shunk has to
do is he has to put on his cap and
be Superman, which he cannot do because it has nothing
to use around him.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I mean I mean that, I mean that as
respectful as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You traded DJ Moore somebody that could have gave him
a quality receiver. You traded him, and I like Adam Feeling.
But Adam Feeling, I mean he's not what he wants. Well,
he's not that poor bowl receiver's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Either a decent Number two.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Look at the receiving from general and I mean this,
And no, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
We talk about number two.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We talk about twos and threes, like who can Bright Young?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Stay with me?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Now, who can Bright Young right in the time of need,
life of their situation, he can come to the ball,
get up on the center and look at a receiver
and say, you know what, right now on this plate,
I need you. I need you to win for me.
Yella high Water, I know you got me. No matter what.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Who can he?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Who can he do that to? Who can he do
that with? D?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
D stro Got somebody can do it? Patrick Mahone, got
somebody can do it with. Joe Burrow, got somebody can
do it with. Like you can go down the list
of teams that always have one dog.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You just mentioned you gotta have one dog, and the
more you have, the better I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Can count on. No matter what he got me, it's nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And then you get here, you got he's having a
string of bad plays back to back, and all that
does to a player's confidence, you already know what it does.
He in the press conference, uh Sunday, they asked him,
have you lost your confidence? He said, my confidence is
in the Lord. And when he said that, he said
(09:27):
something like that, it's shot, it's shot. I'm Christian.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I believe in the man upstairs too. In that environment,
that that killer mindset care.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
A lot of Panthers Caro, a lot of Panther fans,
they try to hear that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Listen to the killer mindset you have to have at
the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You can number one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You can't shake.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Confidence is number one. That's number one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Once that's gone, you just to shelly yourself out there,
you will shew yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Because I wish more guys realized, Oh you're for me?
How you're gonna break my confidence? Coming from where I
came from? Do you know what it took just for
me to get here? Now that I'm here, you think somebody,
Oh you think, okay, I drop a couple of passes,
y'all boo, y'all think that's gonna break me. I should
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have been broke a long time ago, because there were
along the way. I'm sure it's been seventy five thousand
people that doubted me at some point in time, and
I might not know them, just like you don't know
half the seventy five thousand or the seventy seventy seven thousand,
or how many people that come to Carolina game. You
don't know them. You can't break my car you can't
shake you can't break my confidence because I know, first
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of all you drafted me because clearly you like what
you saw on tape. I played on a big time program.
I won big time games again, big time competitions. But
don't don't don't let a couple of bad plays. Don't
let somebody pull in now. Look, it's easy for me
to say because I've never been benched Oho, so that's
a lot easier for me to say. I try to do,
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make sure I do every thing I possibly be. Could
you know it's different for tight end receiver that it
is a quarterback. They have a lot more on their
plate than what we have on our plate. But now
you're not finna break my confidence. You're not finish shake
me just because I have a couple of bad games.
Hey see, he might. I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna
go out there and do me. And it's a lot
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like I said, Oh Joe, I'm responsible for my plate.
He's responsible for erbra. When things go good, he's gonna
get the credit. When they go bad, he's gonna get
all the blame.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That's what as a rookie. Look at the circumstances he's
coming and he's coming into as a rookie last year,
there's the reason he was the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Because damn sure Alabama. It damn sureing Alabama. Because when
you follow tour, you follow Matt Jones, and you got
those receivers that you got, you got Jameson Williams, and
you got metch It and you got those tight and
you got those running back, you got your beer deals.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You coming, you're coming from a winning environment surrounded by
adequate weapons. That makes your job easy. I'm not saying
the court business, Yes it's easy. But when you have
certain players around you and you have certain weapons at
your disposal, you're able to facilitate the ball in efficient way.
And that's something that he can do. He has to
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put on the cape and be something that he's not.
He can't be Superman. Name one quarterback right now, Chat, listen, Chat,
listen to me. Name one quarterback right now that you
can put on the Panthers and it would turn the
whole franchise around.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Who you ain't got. But you look, first of all,
you ain't got but a handful of guys. You probably
got like three or four guys O Joe that could
go there, And it raises the level of play that's
hard for a rookie because you got to look at
when Peyton Manny got the end of you know, Peyton
Manny had, Yeah, Ojo, he had. Marvin Harrison had a
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Marshall Ball two guys first ball, Hall of Fame, Marshall
Hall fought with it. If an n B was an
m v P and a two time offers the player
of the Year. And we know what Marvin Harrison is,
that's what he have. And they say, you know what
we're gonna do, Dad enough. We're gonna go get your
red Yawayne. You know what, Dad enough, We're gonna go
get your Edrick James. Oh dang enough, We're gonna get
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your Anthony Gonzale. We're gonna get your jokes on.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The cards card Brandon Stoke. Man, don't man, don't, don't
get me started.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
If you look at what Patrick Mahomes inherited, he had
lock what do you got? He had Tyreek, Eddy had
Kelsey and they went out and they went out and
got Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Unfortunately, listen, you know you think about everything you just said,
drafting the right way, putting pieces around the quarterbacks so
they can have instant success.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What is brother temper doing over there? And they want
to blame it on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
If Brady was the only one, the coach probably said, chick,
don't you draft anybody else because you ain't drafted but
one player that if it's some good and that's wrong.
Everybody else? You we got free agency? We got I mean,
what was uh Amon Dola? We you got him in
free agency? Uh I think Edelman was a was an
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undrafted fre agency or a low round draft pick. You
welcome you you you signed him, but he was undrafted.
You look at the guy that he signed, boy, they
will have been good and tear you remember he got
Taekwan Thornton. The game from Baylor they read like four
two seven. Yeah, man couldn't play dead in the wheel.
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Caleb you gotta run level. You make a detour like
you going out of bounds. Oh show, run and get
on up out of bounds. Because they're not playing. They're
gonna get if they get that they get that close
to you, Oh Joe, because you don't have the protection
of the pocket, you're a runner. You're running back from
his ball game.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Listen, I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Kaleb Williams. What
he has to do. He has to learn and protect
the ball. Learn to protect the ball, learn to live
to see another play some of those deep throws.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Listen. I like what he's able to do as far
as his escapability. You being able to.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Extend plays, trying to make plays down the field to
try to get his team into the game.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
You can't do it. You can't do it obviously, like college.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Sometimes some of those receivers were wide open, were able
to dodge the D tackles in the D tackles and
the guards that might have that might have gotten through.
But you know these players, these players are coverage. Sometimes
you throw it in the in a in a double coverage.
Sometimes you're throwing way. He had one one throw on
he threw way across his body from the right half.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
All the way back across the field and got picked.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, it's not it's not gonna work sometimes, listen, just
throw the ball away and live to see another down.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, other than that, listen, they pressured him. They
pressured him lot.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know, they fooled him with with some of the coverages,
and other than that, I mean, it was.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
A good game. It's good.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end the
Bears actually.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Had a chance to come back.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Got interesting, It got very interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's funny how that always worse.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You ever noticed that?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I do, because everything ever seemed like the Texan was
going in to put the game away. They fumbled the ball.
If you'rebody go in and touchdown, they're about to go
up two scores. They're about to put the game game away.
And that's what you have to guard against because if
you think about it, oho more teams lose games than
teams win games. Yes, sir, there's more a lot more
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losing than winning. Now we know at the end of
the day, they're gonna have to have somebody's gonna have
to win. And left the game ends of the tie.
But you go back and look, you look at it like, okay,
this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game.
And you know, like you said, Caleb waves, I think
he has a great he hit a SA capability is unbelievable.
He can make every throw. He just has to understand
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this is in college. Everybody. Everybody at this level is
a leite, even if they're you know, there's tears to it,
but you're talking about the best of the best. You
only got sixteen hundred men in the world of eight
billion people that do what you do. Yeah, sixteen hundred
of eight billion. That's a very very minute percent of
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men that can play this game at the highest level.
Kyler Murray says it's not his job to feed targets
to the rookie wide receiver. Marvin Arrison me, did.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
He really say that? Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Do you think they miss going as a quarterback, obviously
you're going through your reads. Sometimes the ball goes to him.
That's not my job. I have a I have a
sense and a feel for guys when they don't get
the ball and when they're getting the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Hey, man, hold on now, if I'm caller, Murray Caler.
I know you're gonna see this when you come out
the huddle. What number Marvin Harrison, I mean Martin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Kyler Murray. When you come out the huddle and you
and you you're making your points with the line pointing.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Out the mic, check the courage whatever side eighteen, go
to look at the DV. If it's one on one,
throw a twin. Don't worry about no read. He is
the read. He's the read.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
What you talk about.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's stuff like this that makes you annoyed. Not my job.
That is your job. Why you think that, Cayler, I'll
give you one scrip.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know what it is. That's over fucking coaching. That's
what it is. That's over coaching.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's why that that's why you said that answer, that
they're over coaching to go through his reads when hello,
you got a special individual individual that was the fourth
pick for a goddamn reason.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You do that to a rookie, Oh Joe, ain't nobody
over coaching Kyler? Kyler on some bull jives. Kyler been
on some bullgives. But I ain't Look, I ain't going
to go there. This is not the time. This is
about I'm not rookie quarter coaching. This man had been
to the Pro Bowl, and you this man was what
he rookie of the year? What the rook of the year.
(19:29):
And then you're gonna talk and you're gonna talk about
that's not your job. So tell me what your job is.
I like to know. So you mean to tell me
the guy's rookie of the year. The guy is a
pro bowler, he's been to the Pro Bowl. He's taking
a team to the playoffs. But that's not his job.
That explained, That explains. Now you see why. Now you
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see why. All I'm gonna say is now you see why.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know what you know it's gonna happen. Though, who
the call? Who called them play tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Who the Cards play? Ash?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I guarantee they. I guarantee their feeding tomorrow. I guarantee
a feature of tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They play the ram bet that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh ship. Hey.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But even even though still even with them playing Ramps,
I guarantee you they feature Marmon Harrison and he has
a welcome to the to the NFL day guarante. I
guarantee you. It's just it's just the way it works.
It's just the way I'm not saying I know the script.
But after a day like that, which to me is
an embarrassment, especially with the quote coming behind you, you
(20:40):
start callack saying something like you call back, that's an embarrassment.
They're gonna feature Marmin Harrison JUNIORR tomorrow, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The wise thing would say. Look, I gotta understand that
my playmakers and I got to do everything in my
power to make sure I get them involved early and often. Yeah,
what did tarm Brady say? Tarm Brady says, my Tom
Brady saying it's my job to get my playmakers the
ball early. Who wants to go to second quarter the
third quarter before they get a target? That's what Tom said,
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Kyler Murray saying that's not his job. Now, chat, you
see what they'm talking about. You see the difference between mentality.
You see how the great players think and the other
players looking to place the blame on somebody else. So,
in other words, what he's trying to do oho is
up any blame that you might have placed on me.
That's the coach's job. Now, listen at the other great
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quarterbacks and when they talk Peyton Manning the Tom Brady's,
the Mahomes, all those great quarterbacks. They go out of
their way early to make sure their playmakers get involved early.
Kyler Murray said that's not his job.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, listen, I'm not Kyler Murray is is media savvy.
He's he's savvy enough to be able to answer that
in a different way. And I just it was upsetting
for me because on Marvion Harrison Jr.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Debut as an NFL player, it shouldn't look like it
should have.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Looked nothing like that, Nothing like that. But I know
one thing tomorrow is gonna be. I guarantee you and
I bet anybody in the chat, I bet your dollar
tomorrow he gonna have a date.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh cho, Now you see where I was born. When
I was born, Now you see.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
The mentality is different. The mentality is mad.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Look here, mm, guys, I know y'all think I think
your no, look.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh ship whatever, none, go ahead, go ahead. I'm good
because I took a nap.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Man. I just it would bother me. It bothers me
some of these guys mentality. It bothers me that winning
is not of the utmost Why theF am I here,
Why am I putting my body through this? Why am
I denying myself? When I trained? I questioned myself every
(23:13):
day I went to trade, I asked myself a couple
of questions, why am I doing this? Win? Is this over?
What am I doing it for? How long is it
gonna last? And then I got to come and hear
somebody talking about it's not his job. Guess what, Lord
have mercy? It bothers me, man, It really does, because
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all I want to all I care about is winning.
How do we get better? You don't get better with
players like Kyler Murray. His mentality is not what it
needs to be. Go listen to all the other great players.
Look at and listen to Lway, Look listen to Marino,
listen to Apeman, listen to any and they'll tell you
(24:01):
I got to get my playmaker in bolved early. They
not saying it's not my job. You got the damn ball.
It is your job.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Touch it the most. You touch it the most. But
that's that's why I said.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Over coaching, because when when when when some of the
quarterback throws out, I have.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
To go through my reads. That's coaching. That's them being
in his ear a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Guess what if I'm a quarterback Davin all of a sudden,
I can't read what eighteen that I don't even know
the rest of them play eighteen get open.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's that's a veteran move.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Now, that's something in Carson was doing in year five
and six and seven and eight. That's that's a veteran move.
I'm not sure if he has the leeway out of
it to be able to go off like that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He he done got one coach fire, he can get
another one fire. It's easy to fire coach that the
other quarterback. It's just it's just it's just man, it's
just the mindset of some of these guys. That's what.
That's what. That's all I'm saying, right right, Yeah, I
bet I bet it. Ask him what his job is
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on card. I bet he know that. I bet he
know that. I bet I bet he know what his
job is on that. I get best with he playing partners.
Ain't nobody gonna say, man, it's your job to protect
the blind spot, and then your your job to go
in there and do that. I bet they don't know
how to tell him that.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Hit.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
He just gotta gotta he gotta choose his words a
little at a little better.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's all to us suffering another concussion. O Yo. Knowing
his history, I don't know why he had already had
the first down. Why didn't he go down and slide?
That's my thing. You know, O Jo, you probably played
with a bum shoulder or a bum something. The last
thing you want to do is get hit on it.
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So you gonna you're gonna make you ain't hit on
that shoulder. I want the shoulder. Let you hit me
on the shoulder. That's could. But I'm not gonna let
you know. If I know, O Joe, I've had hair trauma,
like three or four of those. I'm not taking I'm
going to slide. That's what the protection is in for
the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean, listen, what I did say is him trying
to run for the first down understanding he got the
first down. I'm not sure if he was aware of
already having the first down. But you already know how
you supposed to slide. You never slide head first as
a quarterback. That's one of the first things you learn
when you scramble and you come out of the pocket
is how to slide correctly to it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You already know.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You already know you've had three or four concussions. You
miss uh, not last season, but the previous season due
to concussions. So you should always be aware not only
of surroundings, but when I'm about when enemies, not enemies,
but when you're in danger and when when you got
to know when to go down.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You have to know when to go down.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So I think he didn't realize he was well passed
the first down, and then and then I think Damar
Hamlin was going to close in closing that guy damn.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Fast, and it was too late.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It was too late.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
If anything, if anything, slide early slider, ain't you always
go feed first.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's even more of a problem if he didn't know
he had the first down, considering you're supposed to know
you can see that. I mean most guys know that.
You could see that out of your periphial because you
looking left the right to make sure there's no oncoming track.
Nobody's been a fire swipey, Okay, don't oh, I got
this first.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know you know that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know how I know he didn't know he had
the first because he was diving head first. Because if
you knew what he got the first. There's no need
to be going forward at all. Just give yourself up.
He was trying yourself up.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, he was trying. He was trying to set the tone,
trying to fight a crowd up. Remember you like guys
to fight, you like guys.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That was different than I was Lamar going out of
bounds and seeing the safety coming on and just you know,
just give him a little shoulder, let him know it's
gonna be a long night.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ifing to give you no shoulder, not my throwing shoulder. Anyway,
I give you the other shoulder, not the one I
used to throw the football with Ojo. And I don't
I don't take this lightly, and I really hate saying this,
but two of them probably need to seriously consider sitting
it down. If you notice the concussions are starting to
look worse and worse. If you notice every time he
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has a head trauma, he gets rigga. He get what
they call riga mortis. It's a hold on a doctor.
This is what a doctor sent me when it happened.
Uh is called decerebrate posturing, a rare abnormal body position
that indicates severe brain damage or disruption of brain function. UHS.
This decemberate, deceibriate, decerebrate rigidy, or extensivey posturing. Arms held
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straight out, rotated towards the center of the body, held
parallel to the side let. These are some of the symptoms.
Legs extended and rigid, toes pointed downward, turned slightly inward,
hands flexed, back arched or stiff. Wrist flexed away from
the body, Fingers curled. How many times have you seen
him get that? O Joe? I mean, what three? And
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it's starting and every time he gets it, O Joe,
it's not you know, some people get it and they
a little more like, Okay, look he got his bed rung.
But o Jo, he going stiff with it, O Jo,
he's getting Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean listen, at this point, I heard what you
just said about him probably probably sitting it down and
shutting it down.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You know, you got to understand we we just Toby Wei.
They just paid to her, They just put they paid
to her a lot of money because he is the
future of the franchise and the quarterback. In order for
them to contend, he has to be a to him
to do that. Now, in notice to do that, he
also has to be healthy and he has to protect himself.
So at this point going forth, he was able to
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He was able to play all last season without this
type of injury without any mistakes. You know, when he
does come back, and I'm sure he's going to come back,
I'm not sure how long he's going to have to
be in the concussion protocol. But he has to take
better care of his body, his head, and just make
smarter decisions when he does scramble, because you got to
think to it is not known as a dude threat quarterback.
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It's not that many times he's going to be out
there running around and taking off with the ball as
opposed to a Josh Allen or you know, a Patrick
Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. So when he does scramble, he
has to make the decisions and protect yourself and learn
how to slide.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh cho, the Dolphins beat the Jags. But the big
news actually happened before the game, And this is what happened.
Tyreek Hill was detained by police Sunday, a block away
from hard Rock Stadium for driving violation. He was reportedly
stopped for speeding and then got into a verbal altercation
with the police and was subsequently placed in handcuffs. Dolphin
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teammate Kalais Campbell. John new Smith stopped to offer support
for Hill, leading Campbell detainment for disobeying a direct order.
Miami Dave Police Department released the statement requested and immediate
review of the incident. One of the officers involved in
the Hill entertainment was placed on administrative duties during the investigation. No,
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not administrative lead, administrative duty, which means he's going to
be at the desk. He's not going to be in
the field. Oh cho, what was? What was we're going
to do? We're going to discuss the game. So but
oh sho this situation, U of I driven the home games.
I did it for over fourteen years. You did it
for eleven twelve years. So you noticed, like, yeah, layout
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give the fans an idea. You going to the stadium.
You got to be at the stadium. I mean normally
they ask you to be at the stadium two hours
before the game. So okay, now, o Joe, you leave
the hotel the night before the game. I don't know
if you stayed there the full time or you go
back home and change, but you're on your way to
the stadium. Take the fans through probably what transpired with Tyran.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I mean, obviously he was headed to the stadium.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
If i'm blocking that way background, that's that's right outside
the stadium, outside of outside in the backyard, because you know,
because you can see the stadium, you know, in the background.
So obviously obviously he was right there. I'm not sure
what actually what actually happened. I'm not sure what time
it was. I'm not sure if it was running late.
So obviously, if you're stopping for a driving violation, the
only type of driving violation you have two hours for
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a game would have to be speeding of some sort,
maybe not using your signal. I'm assuming something minor. Well,
speeding is not minor obviously, so I'm I'm assuming he
was pulled over because all all I have to go
off of is based on what we all saw. I
mean that that that's it. I think I think it's unfortunate.
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I think it's an easy fix. I think it was
a very easy fix where it even it didn't even
have to get to this point to where it got
to today, I'm not I'm not sure if cooler heads
had prevailed in that in that time or in that manner,
or him being detained wouldn't have happened in that in
that situation. I think you and I have talked about
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it before, when you're stopped by the police and doing
all you can to be able to to to resolve
the issue without it going any further. You know, I'm
not sure if Tyreek said anything. Maybe the officer was
having a bad day's having a bad day, But there
has to be some level of respect on both ends
where this where this doesn't happen. The fact that I
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don't have the evidence on what really happened and what
transpired for it to get to that point, it's hard
for me to dig deeper and say some of the
things I want to say outside of the fact it
shouldn't get to that point.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Though.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
There should be a level of respect on both ends, obviously,
especially Mimi Miami Police Department. If you work in the game,
if you work in a game, you're on detail at
the game and you know it's a player, obviously, maybe
extending him a little grace if he is running late,
letting him know, a Reek, if anything, just slowed out
a little bit, baby, because you got people, you got
foot traffic, obviously there's a game going on, people trying
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to get to the game. Slow down a little bit
if you're gonna be late, if anything, just take the
fine or whatnot. Whatever whatever it might have been, I
don't know what it was. But again, I mean as
officers knowing that there's a game getting ready to be
played and knowing that it's a player, not saying he
should be getting getting grace. Obviously the rules and lass
that you have to abide by, but it's just it
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just there's a certain level of respect that the officers
normally have for a player or in the situation and
understanding what's going on.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
But in this case, ladies and gentlemen, like we go
to the game, we have to be We were required
to be to the game at least two hours before
the game. So our game was start at two o'clock
because we're in mountain times, so we started to be
there at least by twelve. I normally got to there.
I normally got to the stadium about four and a
half hours before the game. So I normally got to
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the game of the stadium about four and a half
hours before the game, so the traffic wasn't as heavy,
but a lot of times they block it off because
they don't want traffic. They want to be able to
control the traffic coming in one way. They don't want
the normal flow of traffic being able to come in
all directions, so they a lot of times they'll have
it blocked off. I was always conscious of that, and
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so you know, anytime I pulled up to an area
and I saw police officer, I would I would like
roll my window down to let them know, this is Shannon,
because my wind I always had, you know, I always
had ten. But I wanted them to know that, hey,
I'm shinning. You know, Hey I'm going to the stadium.
And a lot of them, most of them recognized why.
I was a hey, miss Sharp, how you doing have
a great game? So forth and so on. Now, obviously,
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the later, the later you get to that that cutoff
time that teams have established, the more foot traffic is
going to be coming. And so obviously they don't want
you freading through their fifty you know, not even thirty
five miles an hour. They probably want you around five
to ten miles an hour because there's some traffic. Like
I said, I haven't been to in Miami, stated Ohoan
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since ninety eight, so I couldn't know a nice Actually
we played them in the divisional round. Yeah, but that's
been so long, that's been so long ago. Oho, since
that's been over twenty two decades, so I really couldn't
tell you. And you know, normally when we come in
on the bus, we got totally sales court. So it's
a lot different when you got pollice sales cort as
opposed to being you know, you're driving yourself. Yeah, and
so you're absolutely right. I think the thing is for
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that miner of a traffic So okay, he's feeding and
you got to lay him face down on right, yeah,
hold on right in it right, write in my ticket.
There's no reason to detain him. There's no reason for
him to be faced down.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
But what you do have to think of if if
if it's sought to that, if they've resulted to the
to the point of having to have him face down
like that, yeah, exchange back and forth.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
There might have been some exchange back and forth.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That's the only time it gets to that point when
the individual is being somewhat volatile towards the law, then
they take things in their own hands because as you
get a little loud. What's the first thing they do
well and in that situation to detain the situation. He
got all the power. He got a gun, You got
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a taser, he got a baton. Yeah, he got a bulletproof.
So he's got in that situation, he's god my thing.
Anytime the police officer comes to my car, I get
pull it over. My job is to get him to
the car back to his car. Me on my way,
he on his way with a little conversation is possible. Okay,
you pulled me over, mister sharp, you know how fast
you going? I really don't, would you.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I welcome you telling me where you was traveling such
and such in this my spank, I said, I'm sorry, officer,
I didn't know I was traveling that fast. But I'm
gonna take your word for it because I'm trying to
get him, Oh Joe, I'm trying to get him to
my car back to his car as quick as possible.
The longer he stays at my car, the greater the
chance that there's something that we can it can escalate. Now,
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a lot of times they're supposed to be in a
situation where they de escalate the situation, but that's not
always how and plus oh you think cause you this
you that you're driving this car? Oh you think you can? No,
I don't think that. So that was that's my whole
thought process. How soon can I get him to my car,
back to his car or on his motorcycle and get
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him on his way in a situation like that, Oh
Joe for the for Todd Reek to be laid down,
and it looked like I saw a video, it looked
like the guy need him in his back. I thought
that was unne Yeah, yeah, yeah, he thunking, but I
thought he need I thought he needed. I would be wrong,
and maybe the video, maybe somebody the video that I saw,
maybe that wasn't how it happened. But it looked apparently
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to me that the guy did me and a little excessive.
Ye Now, I'm not saying that he dropped the Rick
Flair l me on him or something like that. You know,
it wasn't wwe, but but it looked like it was unnecessary.
It seemed to me that it was unnecessary that you
lay a man down in the street for a traffic violation.
I can see if the guy when he was traffic
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violation and he was warned from some heinous crime. But
I don't think that was the case. But I think
what's gonna happen because this was so public and it
is the Miami Dolphins and Steven Ross in the NFL.
Now is everybody getting involved. Oh, you're gonna come to
a quick resolution here, and I can assure you that
won't probably won't happen again. I'm not gonna say from
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categoricy for certain, but there's a great chance that this
won't happen again. That guy might have been a little
over zealous. Yeah, I'm not saying that Trek wasn't speeding,
but I'm just saying, I don't know if feeding warrants
that laying a man down, face down in the pavement,
you put your knee in his back, your handcuffing. Well,
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I mean, if you're gonna do, if you're gonna if
you're gonna do all that, I mean almost only take
it down. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. I mean that would make
it that would make it even worse. That that would
make it even worse. And obviously I wish I wished
the situation could have been rectified right away because a
certain lesson that I hadn't got obviously me being from
Miami that I yeah, not not even close, not even close,
not too not two hours before a game, when the
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officers understand that. Okay, whatever the driving violation may have been, Listen,
quick little talk.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Listen, you gotta slow down. But you know what, Okay,
if you.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Listen, I know you got a game.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
You can't be you can't be driving that fast through here.
I got to give you a ticket. I got to
give your ticket, man, I got I got to do
right by the law. But I'm gonna let you go.
Let you going by Stu Way. That's it simple. It's
over drivers, driver's license registration. I gotta write this chicket.
Just slow down for me. Next time we got seven
more home games here, next time you got more than that,
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just be driving the right way. Hopefully we got more
home Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely,
most definitely. But it's it's I think it's the thing though.
It's the stain on the Miami on the on the
on the Miami video.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It's it's over abusing your power just a little bit,
just a little bit, understanding the situation, understanding the circumstances.
You know, Tyreek is no threat in this situation. He's
not gonna do you anybody harm. I mean you know that,
so I think it. I think obviously it was very
excessive and unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Like like, but like you know, I think the thing is,
I mean, like Tyreek said, what if he wasn't who
he was? Uh? And the thing is now I think
you know, the cameras and a lot of times and
people like, well, body cameras on you know he had,
they're wearing body cams and people like with Shannon youre
talking about you don't get on the elevator with women.
Do you understand there was cameras? Do you know how
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many times we've seen stuff on cameras and most folks
walk up out the courtrooms got as free and you
want me to chake that? Just my look, guess what
the camera at working that day? How many times there's
a situation. Oh often you forgot the Turney's body cam on.
Oh Joe, I assume nothing, thinking they slick, they can't
the moment you pulled somebody out, you're supposed to get that.
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But that's neither here north there. Yeah, Tyreek's okay, probably
a little a lot embarrassed, Not a little a lot
embarrassed because this played out in front of National in
front of you know, you play in front a million,
But I don't expect to be handcuffed, face down with
a knee in my back. Yeah. Oh, not in my
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own city.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Not in the city. I play fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And then Tyrone he did what Tyreek Hill does. Uh.
He catches an eighty yarder, takes it to the house.
He ends the day seven catch, made seven catches for
down to eighty yarder. Uh. And then he did he
by ten am, they had his hand behind his back
and at three am he had a celebration going with
his hand behind his back. Heel and Jaal and Waddle
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count for two hundred eleven of the Miami Dolphins four
hundred total yards in offense, UH two of threw for
three thirty eight one touchdowns. Jacksonville was the ninth best
defense against the run last season, and they showed it.
Miambi only had twenty five carries for eighty one yards,
but a Chain had seventy five rushing. Wattle had five
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to one on nine, Tyreek had seven four buck thirty.
But this game seemed to be oh Joe, this game
was about to be for the way Jag eighten the
Jags and Dude could jump the j panup punches, they
get the ball and two plays later Ty creeks. So
what was about to be a twenty four seven ball game,
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Oh Joe. Now all of a sudden, you get the
ball at the twenty and two plays later Ty reeks
in the m zone. Right, and so now what was
supposed to be twenty four twenty four to seven is
seventeen to fourteen. Now now you're getting out of crowds,
back in the game. Now the defense starting to feel
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good about themselves. We got a ball game. But give
Miami credit. Jacksonville had an opportunity to really put some
distance between them. They were unable to do it. And
it just go it just yeah, and the blinking out
of the momentum flip, just like that, Oh Joe. A
fourteen points win coach d Shine as they beat the Bears.
The defense held Chicago to sixty three yards rushing, four sacks,
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three turnovers. The coach gave up nearly five hundred rushing
yards to the first two opponents, yet the Bears attempted
fifty two passes. I don't know why Chicago had two
hundred and forty seven yards in the first half. It
was shut out in the second and the shutout at
the half after four straight runs and shot gun in
the four yard line and didn't yell to touchdown. This
game feature two of the youngest quarterbacks in the NFL,
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Richidson and Williams Kayler. Williams responded late touchdown throw the
rom with Doomsday and Cole Comet his first two NFL
passing touchdowns. Well, they got a lot to learn.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. This is the only game
I couldn't see Ojo.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They got a lot to learn. They still it's hard
they Richardson is still trying. Both of them are still
trying to make throws that they made in college. And
I keep kept they got the garment they got. You
can't make them pros ochoe. You not fit the role
one way and throw back across the field. You picked.
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I don't know what his first Richardson first interception in
the n z On even if the ball wasn't tip,
it was gonna get picked. He got three rights. Dude,
round the guy and then he rolls in. Try to
throw back across the field. The same thing with Caleb Williams. Bro,
you're not getting away with those throws. In this league.
The guys are too good. This is not you. You're
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not playing Louisiana Monroe. You're not playing You're not playing
the FCF team. These guys are the best of the best.
They make you pay for mistakes. So stop putting your
team in harm's way. I think Anthony Richardson would be good,
but he's got to stop making these mistakes, and he
got to learn some touch, Bro. I mean sometimes he
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throwing the ball to the guy from me to his wall,
and he throwing it like he throwing it in the hurricane.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Sometimes Now, yeah, and Caleb you fifty two times? Come on, Bro,
come what y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I wish I wish y'all were playing in the offense
when he throw the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I wish that's a receiver's dream.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
You know how many Listen, some teams only ran sixty
five plays. Sometime you only run sixty five plates, and
fifty two of those are.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
In the ass. Yeah, but that means you will probably lose.
If you throw in the ball that many times, you're
probably gonna lose. It ain't gonna be very many times now,
It ain't gonna be very many times that you win
a game where you throw the ball that much, you behind,
You're probably behind, and you're probably gonna lose the game. Now,
if you want some stats that those are great, but yeah,
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you're not winning fifty What if.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
You throw it fifty two times and you win in
the game. What if you throw it fifty two times
and you are fishing.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
What if you throw it fifty two times and the
quarterback is forty eight for fifty two?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, but oh yoe, what are the lights? Normally when
you throw that many times? What are you? You're behind
and teams and the team will let you. Hey do
that so they don't give up anything cheap or.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Deep, right, just keep him in front of us.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, I mean, I just I mean that some of
the guys and they just like, I'm gonna show you.
I just want to know, because Anthony Richardson said that
the college was harder than the NFL. I want to
know if he still feels that way.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
But he said that this year before you got her,
he said that this year, this year, I.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Don't I don't really think he meant that, though I.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Don't know if he meant.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
He would just be here, probably be something.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
If a girl called you ugly, oh, she ain't mean
that that day where she meant she said it?
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Now even a girl, I mean no, But you gotta listen.
You know, a girl called you ugly.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Sometimes she flirting and she really don't mean that. But
you know sometimes she said to keep me, don't keep
me home.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
My grandma called me ugly all my life growing up.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I'm gonna take your word for it. I'm done with
you old ugly self. Okay. I trying to convince nobody
you did you mean that? Because you said you remember
the other day you said I was ugly. Did you
mean it? Nah? You said that. I'm good. I will
keep it moving. You can't.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
You can't take it personally.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I hap what I look like trying to somebody go
call me up. I didn't think I'm gonna be with them.
I mean, come on, when, oh Joe, we grown you
do that in the fourth grade, when you in elementary school,
you got to crush on somebody, you hear them put
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your thuglyself, you make me sick type of games.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I mean, she really like you shure, Hey, I mean shit,
real called me ugly sometimes?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Was she mad at you? Yeah? Exactly? When when is when?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Are women the most honest?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
When they was when they're angry? Thank you? So?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Probably maybe I am? You know, I listen, I ain't.
I ain't. I'm not done. I ain't top ten in
the world. I'm not strong six and a half, especially
with a haircut.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
If I get a haircut, Oh long as I'm long
as i'm above five, I'm straight now when I ain't
got no haircut, and you know I am.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I ain't been on the waist. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm I mean love. Yeah, I mean I guess that's
what you like. I'm looking for. Like you said, I'm
trying to be I'm trying to be a strong six seven.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
A seven?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, I mean you say, if you you want your girl,
you wouldn't want your you want you? So I mean
you say, what what would you say? Real? What? Nine? Ten?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
But nine?
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Not real? Real?
Speaker 4 (49:29):
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the Kansas City Chiefs will facing the Super Bowl are
the Philadelphia Eagles. Time for me to go, Coach Tyree
Wild without punctuation. Dolphins fans panic, wondering if he was
telling Mike McDaniel if it's time to need miamis to
us suffering another concussion heading into week eight, Derick Henry's
own pace to break the record is it Mike McCarthy
the side of the finch Bryce Young less than twenty
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four hours. He didn't concern himself about culture. They punished
George Dickens. The night Rice young Er temporarily has been halted.
Dave Kanalis decided to bench Bryce Young. That's the twenty
four hours after telling everyone he's starting to the red rifle.
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Andy Dalton is being named the team starter quarterback moving
forward this season. Young was reportedly shocked by the bench
and told and sources told Jordan Shulkes it came out
of nowhere. Nah actually didn't. If you go back and
look at your play, look at them they it ain't
come out of nowhere. No one anticipated the plug. Oh,
no one anticipated the plug being pulled after just two
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games with a new coaching staff, but a reminder that
the Patriots panther excuse me, traded so much to get him.
They traded DJ Moore, twenty twenty three first round pick,
which was Darnielle Wright, a twenty twenty three second round
pick was was Tyreek Stevens. I think he's a starter,
twenty twenty four first round pick overall pick Caleb Williams,
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and a twenty twenty five second round to that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You don't do that. You don't do nobody like that.
For one, I'm gonna start with David A. Temple because
what David.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Tempa is doing.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's insubordination.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't even know what that mean, but it sounds
like it fits for this goddamn scenario.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, he can't in subordinate because he's the higher up, the.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Higher up, And that's the problem, because now you're pointing
the fingers at Bryce Young like Bryce Young is the issue.
That's not the issue. That's not the issue. Quarterbacks before
Bryce Young got there.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I thought there was a problem. Who is the quarterback
before Bryce Young?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ah Man, they had Sam Donald, they had keep going.
I don't I don't know who. I don't I don't
really know who came directly after Cam.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That's the hope, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's been a revolving door of quarterbacks not having success
because they don't have what they needed around them to
be successful. There was a reason he was able to
get Bryce Young because he's the number one even the
number one pick for a reason.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You were able to have in the more pick for
a reason.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So now you expect Bryce Young to come in had
a coach, had a different coaching staff last year you hired.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Dave canelis right. You bring him in, let him play
two games. He has nothing surrounding him to help him.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But now you're gonna bench him and you're gonna start
Andy Dalton Like that's going to answer problem.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's going to answer the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No, fix the ship around him and then you put him,
put him in an environment, and I guarantee you you'll
find success.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Oh Bryce Young is an issue. Then people say about
oh he too short, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He can't see Hello. How tall is kyl of Murry?
How tall is Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I well, we know, we know he taller than Kler Murray.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He absolutely is that the reason it's not Bryce Young? Now,
Now what I will say, if you turn the tape on,
there will be some discript in his play.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
His confidence is shot man.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And this is no disrespect to any of the receivers
that are on the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
No, listen, no disrespect. You know I love you, know
how I feel about you, even if I don't know
you personally. But he has you know what. I ain't
gonna say that because I don't want to be disrespected.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think the thing is the question is if Andy
Dalton is the is the answer? I need to know
the question. Hold on, I'm just gonna keep it. Hey,
y'all know what we do. I keep it. I can
so if he the answer, what listen.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think having a veteran presence, I'm not sure what
the Panther is going to do going forward, maybe allowing
Bryce Young to sit for a year watching watching the
media outlets and some of the pundits, some of the
analysts are saying Bryce Young time and Caroline.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is but they want everybody to play because everybody think
they're gonna get c J. Stroud. The problem is, O Joe,
is that people forget do you real live? Patrick Mahomes said,
is except one game.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But that's not what they do with rookies this year. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They don't even give the rookies time to develop and
learn from the sideline. If you get drafted number one,
they throwing you to the wolves. They throwing you to
the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Carson didn't start. Carson didn't start the whole year.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, so times have changed now. For one, the money
that's being invested in these players. You know, we're paying
you so much. We need you to go out there
right now and earn that paycheck. You need to earn
what you're making.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's okay if you go to a team that is
combatant with weapons around you that you can use your disposal.
That makes your job easier. What Bryce Shunk has to
do is he has to put on his cap and
be Superman, which he cannot do because it has nothing
to use around him.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I mean I mean that, I mean that as
respectful as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You traded DJ Moore somebody that could have gave him
a quality receiver. You traded him, and I like Adam Feeling.
But Adam Feeling, I mean he's not what he wants. Well,
he's not that poor bowl receiver's.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Either a decent Number two.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Look at the receiving from general and I mean this,
And no, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
We talk about number two.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We talk about twos and threes, like who can Bright Young?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Stay with me?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Now, who can Bright Young right in the time of need,
life of their situation, he can come to the ball,
get up on the center and look at a receiver
and say, you know what, right now on this plate,
I need you. I need you to win for me.
Yella high Water, I know you got me. No matter what.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Who can he?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Who can he do that to? Who can he do
that with? D?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
D stro Got somebody can do it? Patrick Mahone, got
somebody can do it with. Joe Burrow, got somebody can
do it with. Like you can go down the list
of teams that always have one dog.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You just mentioned you gotta have one dog, and the
more you have, the better I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Can count on. No matter what he got me, it's nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And then you get here, you got he's having a
string of bad plays back to back, and all that
does to a player's confidence, you already know what it does.
He in the press conference, uh Sunday, they asked him,
have you lost your confidence? He said, my confidence is
in the Lord. And when he said that, he said
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something like that, it's shot, it's shot. I'm Christian.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I believe in the man upstairs too. In that environment,
that that killer mindset care.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
A lot of Panthers Caro, a lot of Panther fans,
they try to hear that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Listen to the killer mindset you have to have at
the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You can number one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You can't shake.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Confidence is number one. That's number one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Once that's gone, you just to shelly yourself out there,
you will shew yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Because I wish more guys realized, Oh you're for me?
How you're gonna break my confidence? Coming from where I
came from? Do you know what it took just for
me to get here? Now that I'm here, you think somebody,
Oh you think, okay, I drop a couple of passes,
y'all boo, y'all think that's gonna break me. I should
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have been broke a long time ago, because there were
along the way. I'm sure it's been seventy five thousand
people that doubted me at some point in time, and
I might not know them, just like you don't know
half the seventy five thousand or the seventy seventy seven thousand,
or how many people that come to Carolina game. You
don't know them. You can't break my car you can't
shake you can't break my confidence because I know, first
(10:38):
of all you drafted me because clearly you like what
you saw on tape. I played on a big time program.
I won big time games again, big time competitions. But
don't don't don't let a couple of bad plays. Don't
let somebody pull in now. Look, it's easy for me
to say because I've never been benched Oho, so that's
a lot easier for me to say. I try to do,
(10:59):
make sure I do every thing I possibly be. Could
you know it's different for tight end receiver that it
is a quarterback. They have a lot more on their
plate than what we have on our plate. But now
you're not finna break my confidence. You're not finish shake
me just because I have a couple of bad games.
Hey see, he might. I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna
go out there and do me. And it's a lot
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like I said, Oh Joe, I'm responsible for my plate.
He's responsible for erbra. When things go good, he's gonna
get the credit. When they go bad, he's gonna get
all the blame.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That's what as a rookie. Look at the circumstances he's
coming and he's coming into as a rookie last year,
there's the reason he was the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Because damn sure Alabama. It damn sureing Alabama. Because when
you follow tour, you follow Matt Jones, and you got
those receivers that you got, you got Jameson Williams, and
you got metch It and you got those tight and
you got those running back, you got your beer deals.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You coming, you're coming from a winning environment surrounded by
adequate weapons. That makes your job easy. I'm not saying
the court business, Yes it's easy. But when you have
certain players around you and you have certain weapons at
your disposal, you're able to facilitate the ball in efficient way.
And that's something that he can do. He has to
(12:15):
put on the cape and be something that he's not.
He can't be Superman. Name one quarterback right now, Chat, listen, Chat,
listen to me. Name one quarterback right now that you
can put on the Panthers and it would turn the
whole franchise around.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Who you ain't got. But you look, first of all,
you ain't got but a handful of guys. You probably
got like three or four guys O Joe that could
go there, And it raises the level of play that's
hard for a rookie because you got to look at
when Peyton Manny got the end of you know, Peyton
Manny had, Yeah, Ojo, he had. Marvin Harrison had a
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Marshall Ball two guys first ball, Hall of Fame, Marshall
Hall fought with it. If an n B was an
m v P and a two time offers the player
of the Year. And we know what Marvin Harrison is,
that's what he have. And they say, you know what
we're gonna do, Dad enough. We're gonna go get your
red Yawayne. You know what, Dad enough, We're gonna go
get your Edrick James. Oh dang enough, We're gonna get
(13:17):
your Anthony Gonzale. We're gonna get your jokes on.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The cards card Brandon Stoke. Man, don't man, don't, don't
get me started.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
If you look at what Patrick Mahomes inherited, he had
lock what do you got? He had Tyreek, Eddy had
Kelsey and they went out and they went out and
got Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Unfortunately, listen, you know you think about everything you just said,
drafting the right way, putting pieces around the quarterbacks so
they can have instant success.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What is brother temper doing over there? And they want
to blame it on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
If Brady was the only one, the coach probably said, chick,
don't you draft anybody else because you ain't drafted but
one player that if it's some good and that's wrong.
Everybody else? You we got free agency? We got I mean,
what was uh Amon Dola? We you got him in
free agency? Uh I think Edelman was a was an
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undrafted fre agency or a low round draft pick. You
welcome you you you signed him, but he was undrafted.
You look at the guy that he signed, boy, they
will have been good and tear you remember he got
Taekwan Thornton. The game from Baylor they read like four
two seven. Yeah, man couldn't play dead in the wheel.
(14:43):
Caleb you gotta run level. You make a detour like
you going out of bounds. Oh show, run and get
on up out of bounds. Because they're not playing. They're
gonna get if they get that they get that close
to you, Oh Joe, because you don't have the protection
of the pocket, you're a runner. You're running back from
his ball game.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Listen, I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Kaleb Williams. What
he has to do. He has to learn and protect
the ball. Learn to protect the ball, learn to live
to see another play some of those deep throws.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Listen. I like what he's able to do as far
as his escapability. You being able to.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Extend plays, trying to make plays down the field to
try to get his team into the game.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
You can't do it. You can't do it obviously, like college.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Sometimes some of those receivers were wide open, were able
to dodge the D tackles in the D tackles and
the guards that might have that might have gotten through.
But you know these players, these players are coverage. Sometimes
you throw it in the in a in a double coverage.
Sometimes you're throwing way. He had one one throw on
he threw way across his body from the right half.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
All the way back across the field and got picked.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, it's not it's not gonna work sometimes, listen, just
throw the ball away and live to see another down.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, other than that, listen, they pressured him. They
pressured him lot.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know, they fooled him with with some of the coverages,
and other than that, I mean, it was.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
A good game. It's good.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end the
Bears actually.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Had a chance to come back.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Got interesting, It got very interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's funny how that always worse.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You ever noticed that?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I do, because everything ever seemed like the Texan was
going in to put the game away. They fumbled the ball.
If you'rebody go in and touchdown, they're about to go
up two scores. They're about to put the game game away.
And that's what you have to guard against because if
you think about it, oho more teams lose games than
teams win games. Yes, sir, there's more a lot more
(16:42):
losing than winning. Now we know at the end of
the day, they're gonna have to have somebody's gonna have
to win. And left the game ends of the tie.
But you go back and look, you look at it like, okay,
this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game.
And you know, like you said, Caleb waves, I think
he has a great he hit a SA capability is unbelievable.
He can make every throw. He just has to understand
(17:04):
this is in college. Everybody. Everybody at this level is
a leite, even if they're you know, there's tears to it,
but you're talking about the best of the best. You
only got sixteen hundred men in the world of eight
billion people that do what you do. Yeah, sixteen hundred
of eight billion. That's a very very minute percent of
(17:27):
men that can play this game at the highest level.
Kyler Murray says it's not his job to feed targets
to the rookie wide receiver. Marvin Arrison me, did.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
He really say that? Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Do you think they miss going as a quarterback, obviously
you're going through your reads. Sometimes the ball goes to him.
That's not my job. I have a I have a
sense and a feel for guys when they don't get
the ball and when they're getting the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Hey, man, hold on now, if I'm caller, Murray Caler.
I know you're gonna see this when you come out
the huddle. What number Marvin Harrison, I mean Martin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Kyler Murray. When you come out the huddle and you
and you you're making your points with the line pointing.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Out the mic, check the courage whatever side eighteen, go
to look at the DV. If it's one on one,
throw a twin. Don't worry about no read. He is
the read. He's the read.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
What you talk about.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's stuff like this that makes you annoyed. Not my job.
That is your job. Why you think that, Cayler, I'll
give you one scrip.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know what it is. That's over fucking coaching. That's
what it is. That's over coaching.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's why that that's why you said that answer, that
they're over coaching to go through his reads when hello,
you got a special individual individual that was the fourth
pick for a goddamn reason.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You do that to a rookie, Oh Joe, ain't nobody
over coaching Kyler? Kyler on some bull jives. Kyler been
on some bullgives. But I ain't Look, I ain't going
to go there. This is not the time. This is
about I'm not rookie quarter coaching. This man had been
to the Pro Bowl, and you this man was what
he rookie of the year? What the rook of the year.
(19:29):
And then you're gonna talk and you're gonna talk about
that's not your job. So tell me what your job is.
I like to know. So you mean to tell me
the guy's rookie of the year. The guy is a
pro bowler, he's been to the Pro Bowl. He's taking
a team to the playoffs. But that's not his job.
That explained, That explains. Now you see why. Now you
(19:50):
see why. All I'm gonna say is now you see why.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know what you know it's gonna happen. Though, who
the call? Who called them play tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Who the Cards play? Ash?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I guarantee they. I guarantee their feeding tomorrow. I guarantee
a feature of tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They play the ram bet that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh ship. Hey.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But even even though still even with them playing Ramps,
I guarantee you they feature Marmon Harrison and he has
a welcome to the to the NFL day guarante. I
guarantee you. It's just it's just the way it works.
It's just the way I'm not saying I know the script.
But after a day like that, which to me is
an embarrassment, especially with the quote coming behind you, you
(20:40):
start callack saying something like you call back, that's an embarrassment.
They're gonna feature Marmin Harrison JUNIORR tomorrow, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The wise thing would say. Look, I gotta understand that
my playmakers and I got to do everything in my
power to make sure I get them involved early and often. Yeah,
what did tarm Brady say? Tarm Brady says, my Tom
Brady saying it's my job to get my playmakers the
ball early. Who wants to go to second quarter the
third quarter before they get a target? That's what Tom said,
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Kyler Murray saying that's not his job. Now, chat, you
see what they'm talking about. You see the difference between mentality.
You see how the great players think and the other
players looking to place the blame on somebody else. So,
in other words, what he's trying to do oho is
up any blame that you might have placed on me.
That's the coach's job. Now, listen at the other great
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quarterbacks and when they talk Peyton Manning the Tom Brady's,
the Mahomes, all those great quarterbacks. They go out of
their way early to make sure their playmakers get involved early.
Kyler Murray said that's not his job.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, listen, I'm not Kyler Murray is is media savvy.
He's he's savvy enough to be able to answer that
in a different way. And I just it was upsetting
for me because on Marvion Harrison Jr.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Debut as an NFL player, it shouldn't look like it
should have.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Looked nothing like that, Nothing like that. But I know
one thing tomorrow is gonna be. I guarantee you and
I bet anybody in the chat, I bet your dollar
tomorrow he gonna have a date.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh cho, Now you see where I was born. When
I was born, Now you see.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
The mentality is different. The mentality is mad.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Look here, mm, guys, I know y'all think I think
your no, look.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh ship whatever, none, go ahead, go ahead. I'm good
because I took a nap.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Man. I just it would bother me. It bothers me
some of these guys mentality. It bothers me that winning
is not of the utmost Why theF am I here,
Why am I putting my body through this? Why am
I denying myself? When I trained? I questioned myself every
(23:13):
day I went to trade, I asked myself a couple
of questions, why am I doing this? Win? Is this over?
What am I doing it for? How long is it
gonna last? And then I got to come and hear
somebody talking about it's not his job. Guess what, Lord
have mercy? It bothers me, man, It really does, because
(23:40):
all I want to all I care about is winning.
How do we get better? You don't get better with
players like Kyler Murray. His mentality is not what it
needs to be. Go listen to all the other great players.
Look at and listen to Lway, Look listen to Marino,
listen to Apeman, listen to any and they'll tell you
(24:01):
I got to get my playmaker in bolved early. They
not saying it's not my job. You got the damn ball.
It is your job.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Touch it the most. You touch it the most. But
that's that's why I said.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Over coaching, because when when when when some of the
quarterback throws out, I have.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
To go through my reads. That's coaching. That's them being
in his ear a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Guess what if I'm a quarterback Davin all of a sudden,
I can't read what eighteen that I don't even know
the rest of them play eighteen get open.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's that's a veteran move.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Now, that's something in Carson was doing in year five
and six and seven and eight. That's that's a veteran move.
I'm not sure if he has the leeway out of
it to be able to go off like that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He he done got one coach fire, he can get
another one fire. It's easy to fire coach that the
other quarterback. It's just it's just it's just man, it's
just the mindset of some of these guys. That's what.
That's what. That's all I'm saying, right right, Yeah, I
bet I bet it. Ask him what his job is
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on card. I bet he know that. I bet he
know that. I bet I bet he know what his
job is on that. I get best with he playing partners.
Ain't nobody gonna say, man, it's your job to protect
the blind spot, and then your your job to go
in there and do that. I bet they don't know
how to tell him that.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Hit.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
He just gotta gotta he gotta choose his words a
little at a little better.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's all to us suffering another concussion. O Yo. Knowing
his history, I don't know why he had already had
the first down. Why didn't he go down and slide?
That's my thing. You know, O Jo, you probably played
with a bum shoulder or a bum something. The last
thing you want to do is get hit on it.
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So you gonna you're gonna make you ain't hit on
that shoulder. I want the shoulder. Let you hit me
on the shoulder. That's could. But I'm not gonna let
you know. If I know, O Joe, I've had hair trauma,
like three or four of those. I'm not taking I'm
going to slide. That's what the protection is in for
the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean, listen, what I did say is him trying
to run for the first down understanding he got the
first down. I'm not sure if he was aware of
already having the first down. But you already know how
you supposed to slide. You never slide head first as
a quarterback. That's one of the first things you learn
when you scramble and you come out of the pocket
is how to slide correctly to it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You already know.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
You already know you've had three or four concussions. You
miss uh, not last season, but the previous season due
to concussions. So you should always be aware not only
of surroundings, but when I'm about when enemies, not enemies,
but when you're in danger and when when you got
to know when to go down.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You have to know when to go down.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So I think he didn't realize he was well passed
the first down, and then and then I think Damar
Hamlin was going to close in closing that guy damn.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Fast, and it was too late.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It was too late.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
If anything, if anything, slide early slider, ain't you always
go feed first.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's even more of a problem if he didn't know
he had the first down, considering you're supposed to know
you can see that. I mean most guys know that.
You could see that out of your periphial because you
looking left the right to make sure there's no oncoming track.
Nobody's been a fire swipey, Okay, don't oh, I got
this first.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know you know that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know how I know he didn't know he had
the first because he was diving head first. Because if
you knew what he got the first. There's no need
to be going forward at all. Just give yourself up.
He was trying yourself up.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, he was trying. He was trying to set the tone,
trying to fight a crowd up. Remember you like guys
to fight, you like guys.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
That was different than I was Lamar going out of
bounds and seeing the safety coming on and just you know,
just give him a little shoulder, let him know it's
gonna be a long night.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ifing to give you no shoulder, not my throwing shoulder. Anyway,
I give you the other shoulder, not the one I
used to throw the football with Ojo. And I don't
I don't take this lightly, and I really hate saying this,
but two of them probably need to seriously consider sitting
it down. If you notice the concussions are starting to
look worse and worse. If you notice every time he
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has a head trauma, he gets rigga. He get what
they call riga mortis. It's a hold on a doctor.
This is what a doctor sent me when it happened.
Uh is called decerebrate posturing, a rare abnormal body position
that indicates severe brain damage or disruption of brain function. UHS.
This decemberate, deceibriate, decerebrate rigidy, or extensivey posturing. Arms held
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straight out, rotated towards the center of the body, held
parallel to the side let. These are some of the symptoms.
Legs extended and rigid, toes pointed downward, turned slightly inward,
hands flexed, back arched or stiff. Wrist flexed away from
the body, Fingers curled. How many times have you seen
him get that? O Joe? I mean, what three? And
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it's starting and every time he gets it, O Joe,
it's not you know, some people get it and they
a little more like, Okay, look he got his bed rung.
But o Jo, he going stiff with it, O Jo,
he's getting Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean listen, at this point, I heard what you
just said about him probably probably sitting it down and
shutting it down.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You know, you got to understand we we just Toby Wei.
They just paid to her, They just put they paid
to her a lot of money because he is the
future of the franchise and the quarterback. In order for
them to contend, he has to be a to him
to do that. Now, in notice to do that, he
also has to be healthy and he has to protect himself.
So at this point going forth, he was able to
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He was able to play all last season without this
type of injury without any mistakes. You know, when he
does come back, and I'm sure he's going to come back,
I'm not sure how long he's going to have to
be in the concussion protocol. But he has to take
better care of his body, his head, and just make
smarter decisions when he does scramble, because you got to
think to it is not known as a dude threat quarterback.
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It's not that many times he's going to be out
there running around and taking off with the ball as
opposed to a Josh Allen or you know, a Patrick
Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. So when he does scramble, he
has to make the decisions and protect yourself and learn
how to slide.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Oh cho, the Dolphins beat the Jags. But the big
news actually happened before the game, And this is what happened.
Tyreek Hill was detained by police Sunday, a block away
from hard Rock Stadium for driving violation. He was reportedly
stopped for speeding and then got into a verbal altercation
with the police and was subsequently placed in handcuffs. Dolphin
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teammate Kalais Campbell. John new Smith stopped to offer support
for Hill, leading Campbell detainment for disobeying a direct order.
Miami Dave Police Department released the statement requested and immediate
review of the incident. One of the officers involved in
the Hill entertainment was placed on administrative duties during the investigation. No,
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not administrative lead, administrative duty, which means he's going to
be at the desk. He's not going to be in
the field. Oh cho, what was? What was we're going
to do? We're going to discuss the game. So but
oh sho this situation, U of I driven the home games.
I did it for over fourteen years. You did it
for eleven twelve years. So you noticed, like, yeah, layout
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give the fans an idea. You going to the stadium.
You got to be at the stadium. I mean normally
they ask you to be at the stadium two hours
before the game. So okay, now, o Joe, you leave
the hotel the night before the game. I don't know
if you stayed there the full time or you go
back home and change, but you're on your way to
the stadium. Take the fans through probably what transpired with Tyran.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I mean, obviously he was headed to the stadium.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
If i'm blocking that way background, that's that's right outside
the stadium, outside of outside in the backyard, because you know,
because you can see the stadium, you know, in the background.
So obviously obviously he was right there. I'm not sure
what actually what actually happened. I'm not sure what time
it was. I'm not sure if it was running late.
So obviously, if you're stopping for a driving violation, the
only type of driving violation you have two hours for
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a game would have to be speeding of some sort,
maybe not using your signal. I'm assuming something minor. Well,
speeding is not minor obviously, so I'm I'm assuming he
was pulled over because all all I have to go
off of is based on what we all saw. I
mean that that that's it. I think I think it's unfortunate.
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I think it's an easy fix. I think it was
a very easy fix where it even it didn't even
have to get to this point to where it got
to today, I'm not I'm not sure if cooler heads
had prevailed in that in that time or in that manner,
or him being detained wouldn't have happened in that in
that situation. I think you and I have talked about
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it before, when you're stopped by the police and doing
all you can to be able to to to resolve
the issue without it going any further. You know, I'm
not sure if Tyreek said anything. Maybe the officer was
having a bad day's having a bad day, But there
has to be some level of respect on both ends
where this where this doesn't happen. The fact that I
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don't have the evidence on what really happened and what
transpired for it to get to that point, it's hard
for me to dig deeper and say some of the
things I want to say outside of the fact it
shouldn't get to that point.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Though.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
There should be a level of respect on both ends, obviously,
especially Mimi Miami Police Department. If you work in the game,
if you work in a game, you're on detail at
the game and you know it's a player, obviously, maybe
extending him a little grace if he is running late,
letting him know, a Reek, if anything, just slowed out
a little bit, baby, because you got people, you got
foot traffic, obviously there's a game going on, people trying
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to get to the game. Slow down a little bit
if you're gonna be late, if anything, just take the
fine or whatnot. Whatever whatever it might have been, I
don't know what it was. But again, I mean as
officers knowing that there's a game getting ready to be
played and knowing that it's a player, not saying he
should be getting getting grace. Obviously the rules and lass
that you have to abide by, but it's just it
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just there's a certain level of respect that the officers
normally have for a player or in the situation and
understanding what's going on.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
But in this case, ladies and gentlemen, like we go
to the game, we have to be We were required
to be to the game at least two hours before
the game. So our game was start at two o'clock
because we're in mountain times, so we started to be
there at least by twelve. I normally got to there.
I normally got to the stadium about four and a
half hours before the game. So I normally got to
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the game of the stadium about four and a half
hours before the game, so the traffic wasn't as heavy,
but a lot of times they block it off because
they don't want traffic. They want to be able to
control the traffic coming in one way. They don't want
the normal flow of traffic being able to come in
all directions, so they a lot of times they'll have
it blocked off. I was always conscious of that, and
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so you know, anytime I pulled up to an area
and I saw police officer, I would I would like
roll my window down to let them know, this is Shannon,
because my wind I always had, you know, I always
had ten. But I wanted them to know that, hey,
I'm shinning. You know, Hey I'm going to the stadium.
And a lot of them, most of them recognized why.
I was a hey, miss Sharp, how you doing have
a great game? So forth and so on. Now, obviously,
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the later, the later you get to that that cutoff
time that teams have established, the more foot traffic is
going to be coming. And so obviously they don't want
you freading through their fifty you know, not even thirty
five miles an hour. They probably want you around five
to ten miles an hour because there's some traffic. Like
I said, I haven't been to in Miami, stated Ohoan
(35:27):
since ninety eight, so I couldn't know a nice Actually
we played them in the divisional round. Yeah, but that's
been so long, that's been so long ago. Oho, since
that's been over twenty two decades, so I really couldn't
tell you. And you know, normally when we come in
on the bus, we got totally sales court. So it's
a lot different when you got pollice sales cort as
opposed to being you know, you're driving yourself. Yeah, and
so you're absolutely right. I think the thing is for
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that miner of a traffic So okay, he's feeding and
you got to lay him face down on right, yeah,
hold on right in it right, write in my ticket.
There's no reason to detain him. There's no reason for
him to be faced down.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
But what you do have to think of if if
if it's sought to that, if they've resulted to the
to the point of having to have him face down
like that, yeah, exchange back and forth.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
There might have been some exchange back and forth.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That's the only time it gets to that point when
the individual is being somewhat volatile towards the law, then
they take things in their own hands because as you
get a little loud. What's the first thing they do
well and in that situation to detain the situation. He
got all the power. He got a gun, You got
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a taser, he got a baton. Yeah, he got a bulletproof.
So he's got in that situation, he's god my thing.
Anytime the police officer comes to my car, I get
pull it over. My job is to get him to
the car back to his car. Me on my way,
he on his way with a little conversation is possible. Okay,
you pulled me over, mister sharp, you know how fast
you going? I really don't, would you.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I welcome you telling me where you was traveling such
and such in this my spank, I said, I'm sorry, officer,
I didn't know I was traveling that fast. But I'm
gonna take your word for it because I'm trying to
get him, Oh Joe, I'm trying to get him to
my car back to his car as quick as possible.
The longer he stays at my car, the greater the
chance that there's something that we can it can escalate. Now,
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a lot of times they're supposed to be in a
situation where they de escalate the situation, but that's not
always how and plus oh you think cause you this
you that you're driving this car? Oh you think you can? No,
I don't think that. So that was that's my whole
thought process. How soon can I get him to my car,
back to his car or on his motorcycle and get
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him on his way in a situation like that, Oh
Joe for the for Todd Reek to be laid down,
and it looked like I saw a video, it looked
like the guy need him in his back. I thought
that was unne Yeah, yeah, yeah, he thunking, but I
thought he need I thought he needed. I would be wrong,
and maybe the video, maybe somebody the video that I saw,
maybe that wasn't how it happened. But it looked apparently
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to me that the guy did me and a little excessive.
Ye Now, I'm not saying that he dropped the Rick
Flair l me on him or something like that. You know,
it wasn't wwe, but but it looked like it was unnecessary.
It seemed to me that it was unnecessary that you
lay a man down in the street for a traffic violation.
I can see if the guy when he was traffic
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violation and he was warned from some heinous crime. But
I don't think that was the case. But I think
what's gonna happen because this was so public and it
is the Miami Dolphins and Steven Ross in the NFL.
Now is everybody getting involved. Oh, you're gonna come to
a quick resolution here, and I can assure you that
won't probably won't happen again. I'm not gonna say from
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categoricy for certain, but there's a great chance that this
won't happen again. That guy might have been a little
over zealous. Yeah, I'm not saying that Trek wasn't speeding,
but I'm just saying, I don't know if feeding warrants
that laying a man down, face down in the pavement,
you put your knee in his back, your handcuffing. Well,
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I mean, if you're gonna do, if you're gonna if
you're gonna do all that, I mean almost only take
it down. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. I mean that would make
it that would make it even worse. That that would
make it even worse. And obviously I wish I wished
the situation could have been rectified right away because a
certain lesson that I hadn't got obviously me being from
Miami that I yeah, not not even close, not even close,
not too not two hours before a game, when the
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officers understand that. Okay, whatever the driving violation may have been, Listen,
quick little talk.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Listen, you gotta slow down. But you know what, Okay,
if you.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Listen, I know you got a game.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
You can't be you can't be driving that fast through here.
I got to give you a ticket. I got to
give your ticket, man, I got I got to do
right by the law. But I'm gonna let you go.
Let you going by Stu Way. That's it simple. It's
over drivers, driver's license registration. I gotta write this chicket.
Just slow down for me. Next time we got seven
more home games here, next time you got more than that,
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just be driving the right way. Hopefully we got more
home Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely,
most definitely. But it's it's I think it's the thing though.
It's the stain on the Miami on the on the
on the Miami video.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It's it's over abusing your power just a little bit,
just a little bit, understanding the situation, understanding the circumstances.
You know, Tyreek is no threat in this situation. He's
not gonna do you anybody harm. I mean you know that,
so I think it. I think obviously it was very
excessive and unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Like like, but like you know, I think the thing is,
I mean, like Tyreek said, what if he wasn't who
he was? Uh? And the thing is now I think
you know, the cameras and a lot of times and
people like, well, body cameras on you know he had,
they're wearing body cams and people like with Shannon youre
talking about you don't get on the elevator with women.
Do you understand there was cameras? Do you know how
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many times we've seen stuff on cameras and most folks
walk up out the courtrooms got as free and you
want me to chake that? Just my look, guess what
the camera at working that day? How many times there's
a situation. Oh often you forgot the Turney's body cam on.
Oh Joe, I assume nothing, thinking they slick, they can't
the moment you pulled somebody out, you're supposed to get that.
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But that's neither here north there. Yeah, Tyreek's okay, probably
a little a lot embarrassed, Not a little a lot
embarrassed because this played out in front of National in
front of you know, you play in front a million,
But I don't expect to be handcuffed, face down with
a knee in my back. Yeah. Oh, not in my
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own city.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Not in the city. I play fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And then Tyrone he did what Tyreek Hill does. Uh.
He catches an eighty yarder, takes it to the house.
He ends the day seven catch, made seven catches for
down to eighty yarder. Uh. And then he did he
by ten am, they had his hand behind his back
and at three am he had a celebration going with
his hand behind his back. Heel and Jaal and Waddle
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count for two hundred eleven of the Miami Dolphins four
hundred total yards in offense, UH two of threw for
three thirty eight one touchdowns. Jacksonville was the ninth best
defense against the run last season, and they showed it.
Miambi only had twenty five carries for eighty one yards,
but a Chain had seventy five rushing. Wattle had five
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to one on nine, Tyreek had seven four buck thirty.
But this game seemed to be oh Joe, this game
was about to be for the way Jag eighten the
Jags and Dude could jump the j panup punches, they
get the ball and two plays later Ty creeks. So
what was about to be a twenty four seven ball game,
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Oh Joe. Now all of a sudden, you get the
ball at the twenty and two plays later Ty reeks
in the m zone. Right, and so now what was
supposed to be twenty four twenty four to seven is
seventeen to fourteen. Now now you're getting out of crowds,
back in the game. Now the defense starting to feel
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good about themselves. We got a ball game. But give
Miami credit. Jacksonville had an opportunity to really put some
distance between them. They were unable to do it. And
it just go it just yeah, and the blinking out
of the momentum flip, just like that, Oh Joe. A
fourteen points win coach d Shine as they beat the Bears.
The defense held Chicago to sixty three yards rushing, four sacks,
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three turnovers. The coach gave up nearly five hundred rushing
yards to the first two opponents, yet the Bears attempted
fifty two passes. I don't know why Chicago had two
hundred and forty seven yards in the first half. It
was shut out in the second and the shutout at
the half after four straight runs and shot gun in
the four yard line and didn't yell to touchdown. This
game feature two of the youngest quarterbacks in the NFL,
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Richidson and Williams Kayler. Williams responded late touchdown throw the
rom with Doomsday and Cole Comet his first two NFL
passing touchdowns. Well, they got a lot to learn.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. This is the only game
I couldn't see Ojo.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They got a lot to learn. They still it's hard
they Richardson is still trying. Both of them are still
trying to make throws that they made in college. And
I keep kept they got the garment they got. You
can't make them pros ochoe. You not fit the role
one way and throw back across the field. You picked.
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I don't know what his first Richardson first interception in
the n z On even if the ball wasn't tip,
it was gonna get picked. He got three rights. Dude,
round the guy and then he rolls in. Try to
throw back across the field. The same thing with Caleb Williams. Bro,
you're not getting away with those throws. In this league.
The guys are too good. This is not you. You're
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not playing Louisiana Monroe. You're not playing You're not playing
the FCF team. These guys are the best of the best.
They make you pay for mistakes. So stop putting your
team in harm's way. I think Anthony Richardson would be good,
but he's got to stop making these mistakes, and he
got to learn some touch, Bro. I mean sometimes he
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throwing the ball to the guy from me to his wall,
and he throwing it like he throwing it in the hurricane.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Sometimes Now, yeah, and Caleb you fifty two times? Come on, Bro,
come what y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I wish I wish y'all were playing in the offense
when he throw the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I wish that's a receiver's dream.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
You know how many Listen, some teams only ran sixty
five plays. Sometime you only run sixty five plates, and
fifty two of those are.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
In the ass. Yeah, but that means you will probably lose.
If you throw in the ball that many times, you're
probably gonna lose. It ain't gonna be very many times now,
It ain't gonna be very many times that you win
a game where you throw the ball that much, you behind,
You're probably behind, and you're probably gonna lose the game. Now,
if you want some stats that those are great, but yeah,
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you're not winning fifty What if.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
You throw it fifty two times and you win in
the game. What if you throw it fifty two times
and you are fishing.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
What if you throw it fifty two times and the
quarterback is forty eight for fifty two?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, but oh yoe, what are the lights? Normally when
you throw that many times? What are you? You're behind
and teams and the team will let you. Hey do
that so they don't give up anything cheap or.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Deep, right, just keep him in front of us.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, I mean, I just I mean that some of
the guys and they just like, I'm gonna show you.
I just want to know, because Anthony Richardson said that
the college was harder than the NFL. I want to
know if he still feels that way.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
But he said that this year before you got her,
he said that this year, this year, I.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Don't I don't really think he meant that, though I.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Don't know if he meant.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
He would just be here, probably be something.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
If a girl called you ugly, oh, she ain't mean
that that day where she meant she said it?
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Now even a girl, I mean no, But you gotta listen.
You know, a girl called you ugly.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Sometimes she flirting and she really don't mean that. But
you know sometimes she said to keep me, don't keep
me home.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
My grandma called me ugly all my life growing up.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I'm gonna take your word for it. I'm done with
you old ugly self. Okay. I trying to convince nobody
you did you mean that? Because you said you remember
the other day you said I was ugly. Did you
mean it? Nah? You said that. I'm good. I will
keep it moving. You can't.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
You can't take it personally.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I hap what I look like trying to somebody go
call me up. I didn't think I'm gonna be with them.
I mean, come on, when, oh Joe, we grown you
do that in the fourth grade, when you in elementary school,
you got to crush on somebody, you hear them put
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your thuglyself, you make me sick type of games.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I mean, she really like you shure, Hey, I mean shit,
real called me ugly sometimes?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Was she mad at you? Yeah? Exactly? When when is when?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Are women the most honest?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
When they was when they're angry? Thank you? So?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Probably maybe I am? You know, I listen, I ain't.
I ain't. I'm not done. I ain't top ten in
the world. I'm not strong six and a half, especially
with a haircut.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
If I get a haircut, Oh long as I'm long
as i'm above five, I'm straight now when I ain't
got no haircut, and you know I am.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I ain't been on the waist. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm I mean love. Yeah, I mean I guess that's
what you like. I'm looking for. Like you said, I'm
trying to be I'm trying to be a strong six seven.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
A seven?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, I mean you say, if you you want your girl,
you wouldn't want your you want you? So I mean
you say, what what would you say? Real? What? Nine? Ten?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
But nine?
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Not real? Real?
Speaker 4 (49:29):
She probably I get I give seven and a half?
Speaker 1 (49:32):
She hey, real, you're no? He ain't that me said that?
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Hey listen, my dog she man, she about it?
Speaker 1 (49:43):
She about a ten. I out kicked McCurdy.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
You did out care and only reason, the only reason
she probably listen, the only reason she with me is
I wanted because of my personality.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Okay, I just sad it.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I'm not being honest because you know what they say,
if you can make a woman laugh, you're gonna laugh.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
I ain't gonna I'm gonna say, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Good a bottle? Yeah, I can say it the volume
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