Nightcap - Hour 1: Bucks beat Lakers, Mavericks owner speaks on Luka trade, & Rome Flynn joins the show

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Bucks beating the Lakers, the Mavericks owner speaks about the Luka trade, and we have a special guest Rome Flynn joining the show!

06:15 - Show start
07:50 - Bucks vs. Lakers
23:34 - Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont speaks on Luka trade
43:37 - Stephon Castle pranked
49:14 - Bill Belicheck wants girlfriend included in all emails
56:50 - Rome Flynn joins the show

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But first, the Bucks beat the Lakers by twenty six.
That's three three straight losses. The three teams behind them

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and the standings are all riding winning streets. Houston four games,
Golden State five games, Minnesota six games. Big trip tomorrow
to end the road trip en Denver back to back,
the Lakers wasted an outstanding and outstanding performance by Luka Doncic.
Luca is the youngest Laker to play, the youngest Lakers

(06:55):
player to have forty five points ten rebounds in a
game since nineteen sixty two.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh forty five? Magic had What did Magic having that
playoff game? Ash? Was it forty two?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
He might have had forty two, but anyway, he's the
youngest Laker to have forty five points ten rebounds in
the game since nineteen sixty two. The problem tonight, Oh Joe,
was the guys that can score, they don't really defend
very well. Luca and Ar. Guys that can defend can't

(07:30):
score the ball. Phinnis Smith Vanderbilt. That's the issue that
you had. The Luca played, Luca and Ar played extremely well.
Nobody else did much, and that's the problem that you're
gonna have. They got crushed on the Magic had forty
two to fifteen. Okay, the Lakers shot forty four percent

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from the floor. They allowed the Milwalke's shoot forty eight.
They shot thirty percent from the three. They'll allowed the
Bunks to shoot forty three turnovers where it wasn't that different,
wasn't that vast? Fourteen for the Lakers, twelve for the Bucks.
They did get out rebounded by ten on the offensive glast.
But look, and that's the problem that you're gonna have
right now. They're scrambling, they're undersized. I like I said again,

(08:13):
uh and I don't like to be the dead horse.
But I don't know why they signed alex linn if
he's he's, I mean, he big for no reason.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Probably thank God, thinking like man, if I knew you
was gonna be like this, I wouldn't give you all
this hYP ain't no sistant, ain't no sister. But he
pretty soon he about to be the tallest coach ever.
That that's where he had. That's that's the next occupation.
Don't Joe coaching?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I don't want I don't want to talk bad
about him. Maybe he just hasn't come into his own yet.
Maybe he's lacking a little bit of confidence having that
type of size, that type of length, and to be
playing in the NBA, you have to be of some
some type of use.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, I haven't seen it foot tall.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, listen, I know, I saw for myself the nel Jackson,
Hayes Knight, no Lebron, I think the game would have
been a little bit more competitive, obviously if the Lakers
was healthy. Obviously Luca did all he could do. But
as you said, those that score can't play defense, and
those who play defense, they can't god damn score.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
So not having Lebron is hurt.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
I think he's gonna be like this for the next
week or two until he can get himself back back
in health. Luke, I'm gonna have to do his best.
Luke's gonna have to do his best and carry Lota
as much as he can, and hopefully, you know, the
supporting cast can have nights. Those that can score, can
have knights when they're on and be a little bit

(09:36):
more efficient and pick up the slack being that Lebron
is not there.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
You look at Luca. They scored one hundred and six points.
So Joe, Luca gave you forty five. Oust Reed gave
you twenty eight. That's seventy three. They got thirty. They
got thirty three. From one to three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. The nine other players score thirty three points.
One guy scored Kingon so that means they got twent
three from the other eight, right, and now you look

(10:03):
at you look at the Bucks. Gianni's would assist away
from a triple double twenty four, twelve to nine, Brook
Lopez twenty three, Dame twenty two, Kevin Porter Junior Twenty two,
Gary Trumvit Jr.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Sixteen.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
When you get that kind of production, when you get
that kind of ballot scoring and the score is so
lopsided on the other side, well that's kind of what
you're gonna get. You're gonna get a situation where you
get blown out. And like we said, we were talking
about it at the top O Joe, those that can
score don't defend. Those that can't. Those that can defend
can't score. So what do you do you? I mean,

(10:37):
they would have literally had to play a perfect game.
Luca and Luca and Ar give you what they gave you,
But other guys are gonna have to knock down shots.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I mean, Luca can't play any better. I mean some
of the shots that.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
He was hitting, You're like, dang, damn yeah, And they
got the game within what two to three, and next
thing you know, the Bucks going to ten oh run
or twelve p one and push it back to four
team the lucky Lakers cawing back. They go on fifteen
fifteen to two fifteen three run and push you back
out and then the Lakers could get no close than
no closer than that.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's just huh. Lebron could not have and it's not
his fault.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So I don't want people to saying, oh, you like
you can help, but lebron injury could not have come
at a worse time. Oh Joe, this is I mean,
they got they were playing extremely well and then he
gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now what do you do?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
And I said this at the time, I do not
believe they're gonna be a second place.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're not gonna be a second place.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
They gotta hope they can hold this thing off and
not get get in the play yet, which is seventh
through tenion because they got an uphill climb.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They got the Nuggets tomorrow. They got the Nuggets. The
Nuggets tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, Brook Lopez had twenty three What the hell you
think yok gonna do?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, Listen, it don't matter who YO playing, he gonna
get twenty nine thirty each night regardless he listened, Yo
could be playing the goddamn five Disciples. In course, he
gonna sco he gonna get his points no matter what.
For some reason, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised,
as gres as good as Denfern has been playing all
year long. And despite the Lakers not having Lebron once

(12:11):
they shock you tomorrow. For some reason, Washington Lakers shock
you tomorrow and just so happened to stumble up on
a wind despite Lebron not playing. Lucas probably gonna happen
another good game.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Luca needed to go.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
For sebne Era need to go for thirty five, and
then the other guys need to go for thirty yep.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And you know, don't be surprised if it happened.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
I'm not saying it because because I'm saying, I'm just
saying the way sports goes in general. For some reason,
it always happens like that. They they've lost three and
all of a sudden, they played Denver. You're expecting to lose,
especially those that like like the gamble, they mess around
and win tomorrow night Watch.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Had they not gotten blown out last night by Minnesota,
I might have agreed with you, Ojo, I might have
agreed with you. But because they got blown out at
home by Minisot, I haven't see that happening. Mike Maloda
have them very focused. That left a nasty taste in
their mouths. They know without I mean the man go off,

(13:11):
Junior ju Ramdall went off and they got beat by
almost twenty on their home court.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
They'll be fired up.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
That crowd will be rocket And if you know that,
if you watch this team over the last four to
five years, they get up like no other to play
the Lakers. Lakers, Yeah, they get up to play Lakers.
The Lakers are everybody's championship. I mean, especially the Nuggets.
Some team you get up to play for like now
it's Kansas City, used to be the Patriots. Everybody play

(13:39):
their best when they playing the Cowboys. That's what That's
what the Lakers are up against now. And I expected
the Nuggets to put their best foot forward. I expect
them to play some of the best ball because they're
ticked off that they let Minnesota come in there and
do what they did to them last night.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Right But oh man.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, and they were playing so well, Ojo. The Lakers
had been playing extremely well. Luca and Lebron had started
to figure it out. Luca was gonna have the ball
in his hand. Lebron was gonna dive and slash to
the basket, gonna get to the post up. He posts
up at the top of the key post up on
the side. Now he can see over the cist. Totals
were really high because you got two of the best
passes in NBA history with the ball in their hands.

(14:21):
A large part Ar takes a little pressure off Ar
because now your two best defenders gotta guard Lebron and Luca.
So now Ar is getting your third and fourth best defender.
He's gonna do what he does. So everything that really
really started to to go well. And then just like that.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. Honestly, it's really the same
thing that happened. Happened to Dallas. You know, everybody crossed
the trade. They look they look dead, they look good,
they look decent. For a little bit, eighty goes down. Okay,
we still got Kyrie, we got something to lift to
live off of. We got some hope, We still got
a superstar. They can put busts in the seaside. At
least get the music attention.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
He goes down. Damn.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
So the Lakers looked like the trade that they had.
It was winning, Lebron playing well, Luca playing well. They're
going on the winning streak. Lucas shawing flashes of what
he used to be. Then he's scoring thirty. He cutting
the food, Lebron cutting the fool. Some of the presses
off of him. He don't have to bring the ball
up the court.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
He can. He can play freely, take over a game
where he want to. Now he go down.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Hey, it's sports, baby, That's what makes the game so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah. Sometimes, Oh Joe, you got to you gotta laugh
to keep from crying. Man, that's a good one right there.
Part keep from crying because you.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Know who the lake, You know the Laker can use
right now? Who average the who averaged a triple double
in high school?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Nobody ain't nobody out there can help the Lakers right now.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Boy, you ain't never seen me put the ball on
the floor. Now, but you never see my brains game.
You ain't never seen me come off, come off the pick.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And roll and pull up m hm. So you know
you picking pop? Man?

Speaker 5 (16:11):
I can pick him pop, but I can I can
pick up Pop better than the better than the stripple.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I'll tell you no, lie, that's uh yeah, it's it's
uh like I said, you look at Houston's playing well.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
You look at Minnesota's playing well.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh, Golden State's playing well since there since the addition
of Jimmy Butler. Uh, the Lakers were and as good
as those teams were playing, the Lakers were playing better.
But it just so happens sometimes injuries happened at the
most nd opportune times, and hopefully you have a team
that's good enough to overcome, that can keep the ship
steady until said player comes back or said play ERDs

(16:46):
come back. But in this case, it's really one Yeah,
we'd love to get Rui back, We love to get
Jackson Hayes back. But the one guy that you could
you could ill afford to lose is Lebron James because
he's a guy that does a lot of what kind
of like when you got here, Lucas, you know, they're
gonna give you fifty to sixty points between the two
of them, They're gonna give you somewhere between eighteen and
twenty rebounds between the two of them, and they're gonna

(17:07):
probably give you twenty assists between the two of them,
so you count.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You can count on that.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Now Auster Reeves gives you what he gives you, which
is somewhere between eighteen and twenty points on given on
a nightly basis, Ruin Chief saying, and give you his fourteen. Now,
whatever we get from Phinney Smith, whatever we get from
Gabe Benson, we take it. We know Jackson Hay is
gonna roll, gonna get some, gonna get some, give him
some second chance opportunities. We know he's gonna row to

(17:34):
the basket, dive to the basket, catch a couple of lobs,
get a couple of you know, putbacks. Right now, we
don't really have that. We don't have that, We don't
have a big We're playing undersize. Gannis is just getting
whatever he wants, getting to the basket, Brook Lopez getting
office and rebounds, getting whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it was really a tough night. The effort.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I don't think I don't think JJ is gonna be
really pleased with the effort. There's a lot of times
Kevin Porter Junior hit three I think three straight threes
and the uh in the third quarter. I mean, I
mean wide open shoot around threes. Can't have that. They
gotta they gotta be better. They gotta be locked in,
and guys got to know their responsibility and and and

(18:17):
and and and and close out without filing, and they
got to get the ball. Wants the ball go. Your
job is not done once the guy missing the shot
your job. Your job is done once you grab the rebound.
Because if he misses the shot, you don't grab the rebound,
what have you actually done. It's kind of like, Oh Joe,
you and I talk about on third down, you get
a team the third down.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
If you can't get him off the field, what good
is getting them to third down. I'm listen.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
If they get it, they get a third down and
they keep doing it, they're gonna get the ball and
the MS on them.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, that's the moralizing. Yes, that's the moring.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
It's extremely demoralizing. But uh, the Lakers gotta find a
way to do something. And I don't know if like
I said, Lebron is probably gonna be out for at
least another week.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
The probably the earliest you.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Could expect to see Lebron James is probably next weekend.
And there's a good chance, Oh Jo, they could be
in the cellth of the eighth spot.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
By then they really could.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Well unless something drastically happen. Like I said, especially starting
starting tomorrow night, they just happen to win. Even though
you say how teams get up to play the Lakers.
I just have a feeling just with understanding of how
sports work, regardless of what regards what the sport is,
whether it be soccer, whether it be football, whether it
be basketball, tennis, where it's just for some reason where

(19:31):
things are. When you think about a team that's playing,
they're not playing well, they have a star that's going
for some reason, the team always plays well against a
team that you just know they're going to lose too,
and they just spoiled you.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I really have a feeling.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
I don't know why, So people out there, if you're
a gambler, I really would pick the Lakers and win tomorrow,
despite it being Denver, despite with Joker and Murray are doing.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I just think, so, yeah, I might be I might
pick the Lakers. Some else is money, but if it's
my money, I'm not picking the Lakers because I value
my money a little bit more than that.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
But that being said, we'll see what happens. I'll behave Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
You know you're gonna get in late tonight to Denver,
and you gotta know you gotta shoot around tomorrow and
then you know, you go back, get your nap and
then hopefully, you know, you put your best foot forward
and see what happens. But I'm not overly confidence that
they're confident that they're gonna be able to pull this out.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Maverick owner Patrick Dumont defended the Luca trade. Take a
list of ojo to what he had to say.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I mean, it is so tough.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Decisions are never easy, and part of leadership is looking
at risk and looking at all the factors of a
decision and being willing to act at that time and
look to the long term and not only think about
the short term or how it may be maybe received immediately,
but to think about the long term benefits and what

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it may allow you to achieve if given all the
right considerations.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Man, what do you talking about? What do you talk about?
No disrespect to pack, No disrespect. But the long term
move was having Luca there. Now, if you're having issues
with what he does off the court, there's a simple
conversation that needs to be had.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's all you have to do.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Listen, we view you as our long term plan, a
long term asset, the long term nucleus for our team
going into the future. We want to build around you
because we understand how specially you are and what you
can do for us. You just got us to the
NBA Finals last year the previous year based on what
you can do on the court.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Now you let that go.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
But great understanding, Lucas. Lucas ain't just falling from the
tree every every season. They not just they're just not happening.
There's really no way you can defend that trade.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Now.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I understand the issues that were happening off the course,
some of the things that they didn't see fit that
would probably harm him, you know, yearing down the line.
That's a simple conversation, especially when you want to invest.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
That kind of money that he was going to make.
He probably make.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
It just gonna happen to be somewhere else. Now, you
don't let a player of that magnitude god that give
you that type of production. You don't because like you said,
like you said as well, when is the last time
something like this has it ever happened before? No reason
there's a reason why there are certain players you don't

(22:35):
let go of. You think every super super superstar it's
perfect behind the scenes. You think Covid didn't have issues
despite his dedication and discipline and structure when it came
to playing. You think Michael Jordan have issues that we
don't know about outside of playing the game of basketball.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Come on, man, Ain't nobody perfect a.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Ten to ten when it comes to wantington but understanding
what they give you from a business perspective and what
they can do on the court long term, Come on, man,
stop playing.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
That answer was a whole bunch of nothing.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
The problem is that he called it a long term
move and Nico Harrison said it was a trade to
win now move. I'm looking at it. You just went
to the NBA Finals, like you said, Ojoe, that's winning now.
I'm confused when you I can see, okay, we got
some ass, But you said you're trying to win now.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Bro, you just went to the NBA Finals. You just
did that.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's not like it's not like you hadn't made the
playoff in a couple of years, O Joe. It's not
like you got knocked out in the first round.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
O Joe.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
It was a situation. You went to the NBA Finals,
so that is winning. You're winning now. You didn't win
the Ultimate Prize, but day Normally we don't see a
team break a team up, and that's what they did
because you took the key piece out after going to
an NBA unless said individual is unhappy. But because Luca

(24:05):
never voiced that I wanted to be traded, that's what's
so surprising. That's why, that's why the greatest trade. Kareem
wanted to leave Orlando allowed Shack to become a free agent,
and they had a poll and they said who should
they pay, Penny or Shock, and the Poles said they

(24:26):
should pay Penny. Shaq took that as an insult, as disrespectful,
a slapping the face.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
He said, Okay, that's what y'all want to do. Boom.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
They also said it was too much money because I
forget who it was that had just become the highest
paid and they and a sumptingct to the fact that
I don't think they didn't think the fans didn't think
Shaq deserved that kind of money.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So out of guys like Shack, you don't let them
become free agents.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You try to extend them in as soon as you
possibly can, as soon as the window opened, and you
could offer them a max contract, and you give it
to him. John, Yeah, a twenty four year old shack.
And well we see what happened when he went to
UH he went to the Lakers. But normally guys like
Luca don't get traded unless they're asked to get traded.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Kareem asked to get traded.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Kareem was a three time league MVP, he was a
finals MVP, he had gone to the finals, he had
wonder he had won the scoring title.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
He wanted to get out of Milwaukee. They obliged it.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Guys, this age, this skill, this talented, this dominant, you're
not just moving them on your own volition.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Doesn't happen, not in this age. Now.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
It come a time we saw Ai get traded, but
Ai went twenty five and a I. AI didn't ask
to get traded, but you know, the organization thought it
was in the best interest, thought some of the things
that were going on off the court, and they moved
on from Ai.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
But twenty five year old Ai, they ain't moving it,
absolutely not. And so I'm but I understand. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Now, we're just saying you understand the product. You understand
the product. All that you get here I use I
used this scenario last night American Gangster. Then is there
Washington Commuuaton Jr. There's nothing wrong with blue magic. You
got blue magic? Why are you touching it? Why are
you touching it? There's nothing wrong with it. It's perfectly fine.

(26:37):
Just how it is the product that sells itself. Luca
is the product. It sells itself. Why why are you
touching it?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
What are we doing? A player of his magnitude? You
know what? All the hookah, all the beer, God, damn it.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
You've been part of the NBA GM's presidents managers under staid.
Everybody drink, everybody smoke, everybody does some things some extra
cricketer things outside of that as well. But we ain't
trading them. Especially some about this is for long term,
long term. What Lucas ain't walking through that door. No,

(27:18):
And if they if they were, If luc if Lucas
walking to that door, I mean a lot of a
lot of other teams would have success. Yeah, a lot
more frequently. Yeah, Luca is not a generational talent. Luca
is a transcendent talent because the generation, the generation is
twenty years guys don't come along ya. This is transcendent.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
He's he's, he's And for me, O Joe, if I'm.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Patrick dumont of why I'm anybody Nicole Harrison, if I'm
anybody in the Mavericks organization, I Am not going to
talk about this because all you do stirring old poop,
it still stinks.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
All you do is peeled a scalb off of wound.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
That's that's still very fresh, but it's starting to scab over.
You just ripped the scalb off and got to start
this thing all over again. Because all the fans heard
is like, man, this man trick. I can't believe this man.
And did you hear what he's saying? That's what the
fans are thinking. Did you hear what he said? He
talk about long term? Go man, we just went to
the bed finals last year. Lying to yourself, you're lying

(28:27):
to yourself. Yeah, But if I'm them, I'm I'm done
talking about this time. This This is this subject, Ojoe.
I I'm not bringing it. I'm not bringing it up
no more, Ojo, because because I can't, there is no listen.
At some point in time, you got to come to
the conclusion, Ojoe, there is nothing you can say, even

(28:48):
if you were to win a title, people like, you know,
people gonna say we could have won the title with Luca.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Who's just saying. Who's to say we wanted to win
that title with Luca Ojo?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, well, you know he won't have to worry about
that because they're not going to be able to win
the title.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Oh Joe, the pain did not stop there for Dallas
Southwest Airline after fifty four years decided up there the
check bag policy and now they're charging customers by throwing
shade at the mouths.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
It's not long traded, Luca. That's a good one. That's
a great, good one. Great business. It's all about advertising marketing.
How do we grasp the viewing eye and make them say, oh,
that was good? You know what, I want to fly
with them despite them changing the policy and finally having

(29:40):
to pay for bags, that was so clever. I'm from
the flyer Southwest just because I mean, I'm not changing
you know, my my my love for Spirit their Spirit Airlines.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
But that was the goode. That was great advertising.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
I don't know who came up with that, even it
was short, quick and to the point, perfect scenario.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Because the thing is so Joe is that you there's
certain things that are catchy, like the State Farm, like
Flow with Progressive, like All State with made him like Buzzwiser.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah yeah, but why you.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Know the Clives there, Remember the Clives commercial with the
horns and and the dogs and so forth and so on.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's what he wanted to be. Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Hey, I don't know who that All State that Mayhem commercials, Well,
Buddy's classic. I don't know who's behind the Creatives directly on,
but he is. That's classic, right, that's Jake from State
Farm made him from All State, Flow from Progressive.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's anomymously. We I mean, I of them know what
what Flow is gonna. Do you remember the when when
this commercial with Grandma where's the beef r?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Remember that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Uh so in this situation right here, I mean, look,
this is maybe over time because of you know, twenty
thirty years from now, people will remember Milwaukee traded Kareem.
You don't remember that. People think Korea played his whole
career at LA. He didn't, right, he didn't that happens. Yeah,

(31:16):
it definitely it happens. And you know, it's like and
he was homegrown. We took a young kid out of Slovenia,
not extremely terribly athletic. He doesn't jump very high, he
doesn't run very fast, he doesn't run very fast.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
All I know. He puts the ball in the basket
at an elite level.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, the third highest scoring average in NBA history, only
behind Michael Jordan Chamberlain, and it's Luca dunjeit history history.
He has the second highest scoring average in playoff history,
behind one Michael Jordan. They're not gonna forget that soon
over time, you know, we forget a lot of stuff

(32:01):
over time. That's just the way the human mind is
after a while. But it ain't happened anytime soon now.
And because anything that he does, you know, people are
gonna go back. And plus we got internet. Maybe it'd
a been different if Kareem came up in an arrow
where you had internet and you had twenty four hour
cycles and people talk sports all the time, twenty four

(32:24):
hours a day, three sixty five, maybe it'll be different.
But sports is different now than what it was back
there in Ojoe. It's vastly different because the way we
cover it, the way we talk about it, the way
we consume it. Yes, sir, And with all that being said,

(32:45):
people are gonna be bad in Dallas about at the
Maverick for a long ass time.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
So, and you're not gonna make it no easy on
his end playing the way he's playing. When Lebron come
back and they continue to have success together on the court,
it's going to always be brought up over and over
and over and over.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
This is who they traded. Hey, but don't let that.
Don't let don't lose sight of it.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I understand y'all didn't trade Luca, but y'all charging for
check bags now, so let's let's let's let's let's keep
the focus on the focus.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I get.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's very catch it. It's not like we traded Luca,
but y'all charging money for those bags. And I remember
when they first instituted a charging for check bags. Oyo, Yeah,
I was like, man, everybody like that ain't gonna last long.
That ain't gonna last long. People gonna stop flying. Okay, Well,
how are you gonna get from California to Florida? How
do you get from New York side exactly. You ain't

(33:38):
gonna drive hell no, So if that guess what What
normally happens is that when one airline does something, what
does everybody else do with your bill?

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Follow right behind, follow right behind? Because you got you
got to you got to make it up for a reason.
They charge you for check bags for a reason. You
got to make money. This is a business, no matter
how you see it, and think.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
About the money case, think about it, Oh Joe, they
give you one, and then they charge you if the
bag is off a certain weight.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Mm, they charge you. What how about you a dollar
pound for real? Sheall here? I yeah, I do. I
do my best.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
I do my best regards to how long I'm going somewhere.
They always take a carry on, take a carry on
in the duffel. I try not to take suitcase.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I try to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
But sometimes, okay, when you're traveling, when you're traveling eight
cities in ten days, sometimes you gotta do what you
gotta do.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Hold on, unh wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
wait wait wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Now listen.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
You can always use my method, a method I've been
using for a very long time. It's very it's cost
sufficient and it works going from city to city. Now,
if you got what how many.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Day, you say, eight cities in ten days.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Now, if you've got eight seats in ten days, what
you have to understand is all you have to do
is take three pair of shoes, use the same outfit,
have a bunch of underwear, tan tops and t shirts
always changed. But use the same outfit, but change the
shoes after each city, because the outfit resets itself. So
if you're in Chicago on Monday and you got to go,
you got to go to say, let's say La on Tuesday,

(35:13):
all you do is wear the same outfit, but change
your shoes, and the outfit resets itself based on a
different location.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'm trying to figure that that's the pack in multiple outfits.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
But I think just something I do and then and
still do to this day, especially when you have to
do things back to back to back and you having
to do signings and appearances for La Portier.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Okay, you think that, you think shorts and tank top
in Connecticut and and Chicago.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Right now, Hey, all you needed, all you need is
a little jacket. You can put litt jacket in your
duffer real quick. Boom you good, Oh hoodie, you don't
need much. You used to the cold.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
You played in Denver, you played in Baltimore, that was
years ago.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I'm I'm just trying to save you on your traveling expenses,
not only expenses, but being able to travel a fishing
in the light.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, two.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Same sweatsuit. Matter of fact, you have a black black sweatsuit.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And a great one.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
And you hear those are interchangeable, and you just change
the shoes. A pair of white air Force ones and
a pair of black ones.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I got white air Force one and that's it. It
go with everything. The outfits, outfits, I don't know. They
probably stand up in the corner by themselves when I
take them off.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
A't make it out of head. Listen, it works, it works, though,
it works.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I hate going to I just want to come
out of their port and hop right into the car
and I'm off.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I don't want to stand around baggage claim. And I mean, look, fan,
I want to say this.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
If you see a person standing around baggage claim, do
that asking what they're doing. If I see you standing
around baggage claim, what do you think I think you're doing?
Don't Joe, wait on my bag, What are you doing here? Yeah,

(37:11):
I ca I came to get some crab cakes.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
They just they just trying to start a little conversation. Hey,
not knowing.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Hey, don't tell how you do it? Man, I'll be
watching that care man. You y'all be going crazy. Man,
y'all be going half with that thing. I love that show,
you know, I love Brother.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Don't come on now. Some people be nervous. You got
to understand that people be nervous. Don't love that mercy.
I told you. Dode asked me out in the script. Joe, Man,
what you doing here? Same thing you doing here? Look
at that? Who are now? What I'm doing here? That's
what you doing here? What the hell? What what do
you think I'm doing? Ain't no bath caring, no morning
a bit.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Going on right right right right right right then even
there for the who hot and the wings y'all. Bro,
you're right yeah man, hey and yeah man, Hey, bad y'all. Man,
I've been watching you with TV. Brother, not the time
m you you try to discribe? Hey, hey, read the room?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah man, honey on the stage, Broy trying to hend
up by no TD, Honey, I'm looking at, honey, right now,
that one I'm looking at, Oh, Amber, Amber up next,
I'm coming to the stage one.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Stage three devastation, yeah, honey, and you ain't never seen
the devastation.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Now you never seen the devastation. Yeah, it's one. It's
one name devastation. Boy.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
She known worldwide chocolate. They called it Carmel. Yeah yeah,
Lexus Mercedes. Some of y'all need to be called you go,
But that's okay, we get at it. That's what we're

(38:57):
gonna talk about that another day time, won't.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Joe h.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
The Spurs prank rookie step on Castle this week by
taking the wheels off his car.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Look at this, o, Joe, m hm.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's a bens you look like.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, man, they got the man thing about block ah many,
they ain't.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
They ain't eve putting no blocks upon either. Oh that
oh that hurt. That hurt.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
And listen as as a rookie, that that's expected. Just
far enough, Joe, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That's light. That's light. That's real light, that's real.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Like just taking the wheels off the car, obviously they're
gonna they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Get him put back on. It's a super being an
NBA player. What was that? A what the toyo? The Supra?
I ain't even know anymore? Still they came back, okay, okay, yeah,
super dope. Yeah. But when I was when I was
coming up, that was that was a little sports car.
That was that nice. Yeah, put your little on that hve.

(40:14):
They they call you a little fast and furious. Uh
huh Yeah, that's not that bad. That's not that bad.
Did y'all prank y'all rookies?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (40:24):
No, I was pranked with my Brookie year. I think
I think I might have told you where I made
a mistake and left my windows down. Uh, the night
they beside the prank, and they used a Frek Singer.
I was cald to wake up to my whole car
all white. Yeah, but then knowing it was nighttime when
they did it, obviously when everybody was sleep, my windows

(40:45):
was cracked on both sides. So the entirety of my
car was all white on the inside. And a Lexus
e S three hundred and if anyone that drives a
Lexus and had a Lexus understands that the seats were
what swayed or something like that, forgot the material.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
So everything was ruined.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
I didn't get mad. I didn't get upset because I
understood this is what comes with it. And I was
just so happy to be in the NFL at that
point as a rookie, and I wasn't even tripping. Took
it to the detail. I had a lot of the detailers.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I never forget.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
We was in training camp all the way in Georgetown,
Kentucky to the detail. Listen, if y'all can get it out, fine,
if you can't, I ain't tripping.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I made it. I'm here.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, for the best way he could. Yeah, best what
he could.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I never forget. I wasn't even upset though. Yeah, it
was funny. It was funny to me. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
We I mean, yeah, obviously you got to prank the rookies.
That's that's a right of passage. So yeah, we probably
steered your car. Do let the fire extings show. I
mean what we would do. We would pull rubbing alcohol
up under the door and then set it on fire.
Whoa wait, Yeah, you won't come Oh you won't come out.

(42:00):
You know what I'm saying. You won't you out, You
won't come out. Okay, we'll smoke out, or we'll take
the knock the peep hole. You know you got a
peep hole because it was a college dorm. We would
knock the people out and let the fibers thing with
shof up in there come out. We get you to
come out. O yo, then we're gonna dave do dump
the water.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
On you cat. You come out. That's funny. We put toothpaste.
So we put toothpaste.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
We take toothpaste and put it on your door handle,
so you know, old Joe, you're coming out for training camp.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
You just turn around and grab your door handle. All
you got.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
Ain't nobody did is with Sean. He'd make me sit
bro I beter bot room. Ain't nobody did it with
sep Ain't nobody did it with sharp man. You play
your bro or we go into the we're going to
the dining hall.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
We take all the salt and pepper and we put
it on, so you pull some salt, all the salt
go into your meal.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Now that would piss me off. Don't don't don't play food.
Know that's your I didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I'm just saying, listen the car, the wheels that that's fine,
but not my food, not a meal. I gotta eat,
especially when you're hungry, especially in camp. You know when
you when it is time to go eat. Oh boy,
you're hungry.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah yeah, you hungry. Now, don't don't do my meal
like that.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
That that that that would hurt. I mean we still
take the car. I mean, I shook a dude truck.
He had to explore, drove it, drove it like a
mile away, left it, running lights on, doors open, beginning
to practice. So it was like five minutes, so he
ain't got enough time to go get it right. He

(43:38):
just watched up there for two hours. He just watch
it and them lights getting them and demo. Yeahm and.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I ain't do it. I'm just saying I know who
did do it.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I just said I don't want like I said, I
don't know if the Statue of limitations is up on
some crime. But I'm just saying I know people that
would do such a thing like that, not that I
did it because I was proud of Like, bro, ain't
nobody did it?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
But y'all like, bro, how did I do it? I'm
right here with you.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah it is yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want y'all
to know, chat, I had no part of that. Now
did I see something?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah? Yeah, what you mean?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yes, But I don't work for our Raffahole police department,
so it's not my job and I'm not detecting mulleins
on for forty eight.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
It ain't my job to investigate it. That being said,
I don't know to tell it. Yeah, I understand, I understand,
I understand. Wow.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Bill Belichick is telling UNC staff to copy his twenty
four year old girlfriend, Jordan Hudson in every message intended
for him. Uh from coach Belichick Monday, December sixteen, twenty
twenty four eleven for him to blah blah blah. You
see what it is, Robbie, thank you for the email.
I'm including Jordan on this email so she can keep

(45:07):
up with our postings. Can you include her on anything
you send me?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Thank you, bb That's how the bad thing is after.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Let me ask you a question. When somebody sends it
up from you, did you include on everything that was
sent to you? Did you include?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I'm just asking yes, Why you shaking your thumb like
you the Ken Bamber Tomboat? I just mix sure I ain't.
I wasn't trying to hear that you know about you?
Will you ask me at a good or bad thing.
I'm asking you.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
On certain things, on certain things. Let me go back,
let me go back. Can you include on anything you
send me? I'm gonna poll this again to one oh
Jo Sinko. At any point in time, did you request
that everything that was sent to you was copying to
your girlfriend or significant other? Is a simple yes for
a simple note? Noah related work related?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Hold on, you ain't, he said, thank no, no, no,
I heard, thank you for the email. I'm including Jordan
on this email so she can keep up with our postings.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Can you include? Okay? Nah?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Now for me, I'm listening based on the question to
keep things for thin context, anything work related.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
The small team that I do have.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
That individual is included to make sure I stay on
top of my stuff because sometimes I forget certain things.
You know that the scheduling, what time of flight is
my boarding passed? Just small stuff. So I stay on
top of it and that individual keep me ahead of schedule.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
That's all. Yeah, but everything.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Bill Belichick asked his UNC staff to copy his girlfriend
on every email they send to him.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah. I have a question.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
With as much as Bill has to worry about, would
you think that's a good thing in general, so he
could focus on the football side of things and anything
outside of that. She can help and kind of kind
of keep them abreast on what's going on.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
That's their relationship to each his own. Oh yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
For the most part, Yeah, I can see it, Oh Joe,
I do see it because a lot of stuff that
Shelley gets copied on, because Shelley is the one that
has my has my schedule, and you got a problem
that we were running into. Okay, I've got to do

(47:41):
something for ESPN. I might have something schedule for Nightcap,
but then they overlap Club Shapsha and so now so
now everything we got a copy. Okay, blah blah blah.
We got a potential sit down on Club Shah on
this day. Shelley, this is not gonna work. Shannon has
this already schedule on this day. Can we move it

(48:02):
back a day or move it up a day?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
So I get it. I get it. I do get it.
At first, I was like, damn everything.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
But yeah, for the most part, Shelley is loop that
she looked in on every everything because he said copy
her on everything.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Hey, she's she looped in Shelley's looped in on the
most important stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, here's the thing. How about this old Joe. H
Shelley is the email. You can't email me, so it's
got to be it's gotta go through Shelley. How I'm
looped in?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, that's a good one. But this is Ojoe.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
The difference is like a lot of people that have
executive assistance, you looped them in and blah blah blah.
She not his asistant. There's a difference between the two.
I don't think I think coach biler Chak has an assistant.
I don't think it's hurt m he has a girlfriend.
It's this young lady Jordan. Two different Yeah, at any

(49:11):
point in time where no, no, mm hmm, there wasn't
no emails going because when Shelley was getting the emails,
she wasn't there in fording them on to someone.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Else, said would take a look. No, no, right, mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So no, I, like I said, a sister, Yes, girlfriend,
the last girlfriend is an assistant.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
That's all that time hego. You heard you just say, yeah,
how do you eliminate one expense? How do you eliminate
one expense?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
That expense Carolina tar Hills are paying for that's an expense.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
He doesn't need to because the TarHeels playing poor. I'm talking.
I'm talking about me. We talking about me? Oh yeah,
we talk about me. Yeah, I'm talking about the men.
Not only are the missus, but you're also the assistant
you're giving me.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Listen, when you when you when you find a woman
anyway in general, that actually care about you. No, she
she brings that structure discipline that you need to keep
you keep your ass in line.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Anyway, why not? Your girlfriend should be your sister anyway
you think so? It makes it makes sense? Yeah, but
a lot of times what what?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
That's part of the value that she asks, even being
attached to you. True, I agree to help.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
She didn't last.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
But a lot of times, Oh Joe, there's like I
want to stay in this lane. Yeah, I want to
stay over her. Old Joe, I have somebody old to
do bad because I don't want to get the lines blurred.
I get it, I do, I get it, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
But hey, when you love Ojo, we all been there. Now,
don't pay We've been there.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Talk to me, hold on, hold on, where you going
with this now? Talk to me.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
We've been there where we tell the girl everything, every move.
I'm going here, I'm going there, I meet I'm meeting Chauncey,
I'm meeting Doug. I'm going to hang with TJ. I'm
going to do this. I'm going to do X, Y
and Z.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
You tell everything. There was a time period there might
not be.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
It might have been a month, it might have been
two months, it might have been six months, it would
have been a year.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
But you told everything.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
You know, you do that, you do.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
You do that at the beginning when things you know,
when things are going well. But you know, obviously, sometimes
individual loses those privileges.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
No, you know, I ain't trying to be funny. I'm
just being honesty to be funny.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yeah, listen, sometimes a person loses those privileges to know
your every move.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
So I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
But and love, Listen, love. There's a thin line between
being in love and being stupid. And I never crossed
that line over over to being stupid. Third, but hey,
coach Belichick, of love. Man, when you do love, they
say love is like a cataract. It's blinding. Oh that's

(52:11):
what they say.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Oh, Joe, I.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Ain't never had no cataracts. I know they do have
Lasik surgery though.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I know that all right.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Now it's time to wreck to welcome our special guests.
He's appearing in season four Godfather of Harlem. I'm MGM MGM.
He's been on How to Get Away with Murder, The
Vote and The Beautiful Dear White People, Chicago, Fire with
Love and Medea Family Funeral, Funeral, take us get uh.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Now time to welcome Rome. Fled Rome. What's going on? Say?
What's the word?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Man?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
We're good, we're good. Tell us about the Godfather of Harlem.
How did you come about getting that role?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (52:59):
You know, I auditioned for it, so I got descript
and sort of a breakdown. I was like Frank Lucas,
you know, young Frank. I was like, okay, let me
do some research. And I didn't think actually was gonna
rock with me for it, because you know a lot
of times I don't get cast in those gritty roles
like that. But you know, our creator Chris Broncato like

(53:19):
he just saw something in my tape. It was just
like you were the guy right away. I was like, okay,
so you know, we did it. I got to work
with Forrest and filmed for about five months on that
five and a half months, and it's you know, we
almost here comes out here.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
So you just saw Denzel portrayal of Frank lucas an
American gangster? Did you lean into that or you were
trying to go a totally different way since I got
to put my own spin on it.

Speaker 7 (53:43):
Yeah, I'm just I'm inspired by him regardless, you know.
But I didn't any inspiration from his portrayal of Frank
at all, because he plays him at a point in
his life where he's already the man, you know, right,
I play a young Frank who now touches down that
Harlem in nineteen sixty six with nothing just right? All right,

(54:04):
We get to kind of know the conception of like
who Frank was in the beginning, and we take him
on a little journey to ultimately who he does become.
You know, this version of Frank Lucas that you know
Dizel played in the movie.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
That's like, hey, when when it comes to acting, right, obviously,
we all we all pull motivation from from from people
that we see and we want to achieve the type
of greatness they have who are some actors that you
watched that made you realize, you know, what I can
actually do this early.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
On, you know, one of my favorites was Will Smith,
and you know, Will was that guy because he was
he was able to have uh just this comedic timing
about him and you know with Fresh Prince, and but
he had so many like heavy scenes in that in
that series, also more notable probably you probably know if
you've seen it, as like you know, where his dad
leaves him, you know, and he's oh yeah, So that

(54:58):
that scene always stuck out to me because for whatever reason,
when I was younger, I never thought about acting or anything,
you know, until I became an adult. But when I
thought about like Will's career, I was like, man, this
guy can do everything. It's kind of like a Swiss
army knife, you know. So like if I'm lucky enough
to have a career with that kind of longevity, with
the amazing stories that he's been able to tell, then

(55:20):
you know, I've done an amazing job for real.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
When it comes to also acting, I mean I really
never put my foot into it. I've just small done
small cameos. Do you think having range being able to
play multiple roles plays a part and having longevity as
an actor and you can do much more as opposed
to just being always doing the same type of being
cast as the same different role movies.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I don't think. I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
I think if you're good at what you do, right,
they'll always be a lane for you. You know, it's
all good to kind of reinvent yourself. You know, Two
Chains one of my Homiesee, he always told me this, like,
you have to look at yourself as a business, so
you have to reinvent yourself every couple of years. And
it's the same thing with acting, Like we have a
certain itch. I think most actors that I know has
this itch they want to scratch. And that's just the

(56:05):
journey of getting opportunities to play different characters, you know,
whether it's comedic or it's drama or whatever. But some
guys just figure it out, like, Yo, there's my lane.
I'm gonna stick to it. You know. The Rock, The Rock,
He's he's great at what he does. You know, he
was once one of the most paid, you know, actors
in Hollywood. And it wasn't like he was out there
doing Shakespeare, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
He was doing this thing, and he did it well.

Speaker 7 (56:30):
So if you about your niche and you're great at it,
then you know, I think it's just about building on
that and then when you when you're ready, you good opportunity,
then right, you try to try to stretch a little
more and do different stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Rome you won the Celebrity All Star Game MVP. Were
you good in sports when you were growing up? Did
you want to be a sports If you played sports,
what sport did you play? And do you want to
be a professional athlete?

Speaker 7 (57:01):
I never had dreams of playing professionally. I always knew
how handicapped I was, you know, but I played football
in high school and I played basketball, and I didn't
get good at basketball until I was like a senior
in high school. I never got the glory, you know.
I wasn't the guy who was who was starting every game.
I was at the end of the bench a lot
of times, and so, you know what I mean, I

(57:21):
had to work my way and now I'm a bucket.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm like that.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Now you know what I'm saying, Oh You're a bucket.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, ohay, I like that. No, it
was dope playing doing the NBA thing was was a
dream come true.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
We need to we need to get you a Gilly
because Gilly say he'll bucket. He say, they call it
damon Gillard. So I know, and you know I saw that.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
You know, I like I like you.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
He can't he can't guard me though, Gilly.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Used to that. I like that, Gilly. I just want
you to know. Yeah, you what wrong saying you can't
see him on that court. That's what he's just run
you on the hoood? Good money on the look good?
Right to it?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Put it? Get what you trying to do? You can
put it on the streight.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
The man says, money on the wood is good. I
like money on the call the fight. That's what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
That what I'm about. Wrong now what I'm talking about, Gilly?
What you're trying to do? Mm hmm. Play?

Speaker 7 (58:33):
You know the All Star Game is in l A
next year. It is Yeah, Clippers, Clippers, get right into it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Wow, Wow, I can be there. Es go ahead, tell
you said wrong. Is there a dream role or character
you want to play like? I have a dream. Roll
and listen. I'm not in the act. Listen.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
I love acting. I love the craft itself. Loved arts, drama, theater,
all that. Obviously I was.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I was a drama major.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Matter of fact, speaking of I'm going to see Denzel.
I'm in New York right now. Okay, Yeah, I'm going
to see Othello Saturday. That's gonna be the But I've
always wanted to act beside Daniel day Lewis.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I would never get the opportunity. I'm just saying a dream.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
I mean, it's it's just so far it's stretched out
the imagination. It would never happen. But just I love
Dale day Lewis. I love everything he's ever done. Yeah,
well he he ain't really doing nothing more.

Speaker 7 (59:30):
He got from Meys coming out. His son is directing it. Yeah,
I know he kind of came out of retirement to
do that.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
But is there a dream role or character that you
want to play? Superhero Man, superhero?

Speaker 7 (59:44):
Yeah yeah, but I will represent like Man just like
a reimagined version of like what a superhero is, you know,
And there's a lot of stuff floating around. But I've
always wanted to be able to do a do a
film or like a series where you know, actually you know,
raising Dion I have powers, right, So it was kind
of like a superpower in that. But I'm thinking more globally.
I'm thinking more Marvel, I'm thinking more DC. I need

(01:00:06):
I need one of them. Kind of kind of gets
big boys working towards you know, I'm in that gym.
I lifting like Shay sharp man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
What the matter?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
You say you want to play like a superhero? Who
is your favorite superhero?

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
I mean Batman was always that guy for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
He just can't he can't see, he can't hear, he
got that off, he get his laugh will, he got smart,
he's smart, you know now, he was my favorite growing
up though Superman.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
You know, it made me ready for a black Superman.
I'm ready to step in there. Man, I got us
any honestly, Like I always just felt like if I
got the opportunity to play like a version of a
Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Will be dope. You know what? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
You know in the multi verses many of them, maybe
I'm maybe I could be one of them ones. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Man, you know, hey, the guy that plays Spider Man,
they really they tiny tiny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Kobe McGuire, Uh uh, what's the what's the dating the day?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
What's his name? Tom Hall? Tom Holland? Yeah, man, them
guys tiny. Wrong, you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
Must be gonna be a big ass spider man. But
look in the multi verse, they all different. Okay, Like
I'm like, get this, we'll see I have I have
one more.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I'm nosey young.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
You know I love I love vacuum. So I got,
I got nothing got. I'm I'm just I'm a nave
off five of my favorite actors, right, and I want
your name off five five years. So my five is Denzel,
Edward Norton, Christ Quartz, James McAvoy and probably the last
I go with Anthony Hopkins. Not just just five of mine.

(01:01:56):
That very rangy the player, you know, a Lewis at
that as well. Who would your five be right off
the top of.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
Your head, Well, I would say this, I love your list,
but I would have probably added a woman or to maryl. Street,
Claire Dane, I would color.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
I love what about Claire Danes? Yeah, did you see
Temple Grandon? Did you see Temple Granding?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
By any chance? But what we were, we'll talk about
that later.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
Get a chance watch Claire Dane and Temple Granding and
you'll get an understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
We're one of my favorites. Oh for sure. Obviously for me.

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
You know, my top five kind of is like a
door of actors. Try to I try to like stay
away from the cliches. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of
Like he's on everybody, you probably on every White List.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I like.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
Really Unerfrad, Samuel Jackson. I mean his his resume is
like he's up there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You wanted the greats.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
He wanted the great If you actually look at the
range and like the things like can you do it's
hard to do snakes on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
How hard that was probably to doing?

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
Man, I'm killed. I think hateful A was going, oh
what's that that most Spike Lee movie?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
You know what.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
For you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah? Remember Lake DW Terrors? Oh yeah, yeah, what was it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
He would he would just giving them name with Helly
cutting down the trees and putting the spotlights on you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
He needs some more. Get a flower they never gave.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I don't even know if he's ever been nominated for
an Oscar, but if he didn't win it for Jane Go,
he went it for some of the roles that he played.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
The time to Kill gave he to him. Now it
seems to me that you like guys would range for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I love Tom Hanks range the Yank a guy that
he's no longer with us. Robin Williams had incredible range. Yeah,
the women I love Viola Davis obviously. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
The Redhead, what's the what the what's the redhead? Lady name?
What's the Redhead?

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
J Moore? Julian Moore, Juli Robert No, no, no, Julian Moore.
I ain't familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
I'm thinking of as what's the she Wanted Academy Award
Julianne Moore. It's got to be her name. Yes, yeah, man,
she won a couple of Academy Awards. She is incredible.
She is incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
You know, I got your work.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I got to work from you get that hit you well,
if you went.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
An egod, you got the you know, you got range, Emmy,
a Grammy, an Oscar and a Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
You can sing and dance, you can pack. Hey. Yeah.
Oh that Silence of the Lamb Hannibal. Man, No, No,
that's Jody Foster. Jody Falter. She was at Silence. Wait,
she's in one of them.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
She was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
She was in the movie. Yeah, Hannibal, Hannibal. That's Clarice Clarice.
Oh yeah, yeah, in the rebook. Yeah, because if I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
If I'm not mistaken, I think Silence of the Lamb
is after Hannibal. Hannibal was first, but they released Silence
of the Lambs first. If I'm not mistaken, I can't remember.
I just know that's Clarice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
No, that work man.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
Oh buddy, buddy was he didn't talk? Yeah, well he talked,
but he was just like a man a few years
and that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
As well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, you know Springfield, Illinois. So that means, are you
a Bulls embarrass fan clubs, White Sox?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Are you all? Have you like kind of like graduate
moved on because y'all, guy's been terrible for a while. Yeah,
I was born. I was actually born in Chicago.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I was.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
I was growing up in Chicago and I moved to
Springfield and I actually went to the same high schools.
So he's he's much older than me though, but and
we we never even met, which is crazy. But but yeah,
you know, Springfield is kind of a small town, but
it's it's oddly like a place where a lot of
people come out of creatively for some reason. But I was,

(01:06:57):
I was a Bears fan, you know, when d Rose
was the was the man? You mean, Bulls, I got
to see Mike when Yeah, I mean bullstand. Yeah, you
know when d Rose was the man you know, always
wanted to playing d Roses. You know, they even got hurt.
And then shortly after that, you know, it's just man,
you know. So I'm a bron fan now wherever he at.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
That's what I talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Now Springfield. The most famous alarm from Springfield is Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, facts,
So what was I mean do people I mean, what
what of the like? I mean we talked about obviously
one of the great presidents, what he meant for American history,
his place in American history. Did you understand what Abraham
Lincoln was outside of being a president? Did you understand

(01:07:43):
what it meant for that little small you said it
was very small town, uh, in Illinois?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Did you understand what he meant? And at the time
when you were growing.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Up, Yeah, you know, they have like the statue of
the statue of him that's like from near the library
in the town. And so I would always ride my bike,
I see, I used to always see it all the time,
but it never crossed my mind what it meant, if
it was important or anything. You know, when you get
older and then you look back and you're like, Wow,
that's actually dope. You know that that's the part.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
What about your Bears, Caleb Williams, They've done a great job.
They've got them offensive line. They're gonna protect him now,
they got weapons. Uh, you know they drafted Roman Dooms
eight Rome. You don't hear bay Many Rome first man,
but there's Roman dudes. We got Rong Flyn, You've got
DJ Moore. We don't know the situation. You got cold
committed to wide receiver. H We don't know if they're

(01:08:30):
gonna bring Keenan Allen back, but they should be better.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
What is your expectation for the Bears this season? Well,
I think you know, Caleb showed that with enough time
he can be accurate. He was one of the most
accurate accurate quarterbacks last season. So they showed up that
old line. Obviously, they got my guy from from the Chiefs.
I'm a Chiefs fan too. I like I'm more yeah, yeah,
I'm more of like a player guy. I like certain players,

(01:08:58):
But they showed up that old line. I think hopefully
they get in the draft thing you can find something
he's great where you can trade outside of the draft
and be able to find something instead of like having
to look in the draft, you know. But I think
Caleb is gonna be a lot more comfortable, you know, obviously,
as he has a new head coach who is incredible,
you know, for the Lions. And I just think, you know,
he's gonna be in a better place and he'll be

(01:09:19):
able to be the best version of himself, especially if
he has a little more time behind that old line.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
You got a special project coming up? Anything you want
to share your doctor wanna pro promote?

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
Yeah, yeah, yes, for sure, I got it. So I
got a show called side Quest that's on Apple TV
that comes out March twenty sixth, And you know, obviously,
god Father of Harlem is April thirteen. And also and Shannon,
you know I got I'm gonna gift y'all a year
subscription for MGM plus for both of y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Listen. I don't mean to be greedy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
I know you already offered me something, but also listen,
if you got a chance and got a roll for me,
I'm always looking at, first of fact, my portfolio I got,
I got a little foot of the dough when.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
It comes a little acting. I got my sack card. So, man,
you know I'm very rangy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
List the only slag he got his pasts off his ass,
that's the only sag he got listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
To from listen to me, listen. I could be Cite Shakespeare.
Oh I could. I could. I could be Frank Lucas.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Oh I could be Pablo. I can't even sad. There's
so many different pars what I can do in front
of camera.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I believe me.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
I like I like onto because whatever he feel ambitious about,
he gonna do it, even I feel like it's not
something he should be doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I saw you like bearing no challenge. I like to say,
I'm gonna be believing any man.

Speaker 7 (01:10:49):
Believe he just trying to keep you humbled like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I believe he got he got on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
He got on that uh, that bull for all of
a one point two point three five seconds, so that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That chokey I got at gonna say, though.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
I'm gonna tak you one more thing for before before
y'all give me a pout of here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Right, So.

Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
You know, a lot a lot of being said.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
It could be in Denver, it could be a dinner,
it can be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
That's what I'm talking about. Y'all see what it is.
Thank you, Thank you for joining us. Back Yard classic,
y'all is classic.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Oh God Harlem. Look, I want you all the time.
Check on the God season for Godfather of Harlem on
M G M plus Rome. Congratulations, Planks and all the
blessings that's coming your way. Bro, Thank you for joining
us on night, Captain night. We greatly appreciate it. Continued success.
We'll see you down the road. Man, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Andy. That was that was classic. That was a classic
ending man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Oh Joe, I will tell you last night bad. You
don't realize how many people that's what? Ah, just hold
up five fingers. It's funny, oh Joe, because you really
don't know what's gonna go viral, what's gonna what's gonna
you know, people gonna be catchy and what people gonna
pick up on and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
It's gone airport. They don't they don't matter. Now, it
don't matter, O Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
And I see people now, I mean I think ESPN
posting it's got like ten million uh thing views on
on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Uhhh okay, okay, see okay, see UFC makes fine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
That was the unbelievab It's great. Man, that's rong flaying.
Make sure y'all check out Godfather of Harlem on MGM plus.
He's been on How to Get Away with Murder. The
Boat is the Beautiful He wanted to Emmit for this,
Dear White People, Chicago Fire with Love, Modell Family funeral.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Oh man, that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
The volume

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
MHM