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Ravens pulled a five hundred thanks to a forty one
(05:14):
to twenty four victory over the Packers. Tyler Huntley was
sensational one hundred and seven pass yards, one touchdowns. He
had another sixty yards on eight carries, But the knight
belongs to Derrick Henry thirty six carries, two hundred and
sixteen yards, four touchdowns. The Ravens on tonight fifty three
rush attempts, three hundred and seven yards, four touchdowns, all
(05:34):
four by Derrick Henry. And as I mentioned at the top, guys,
this makes last week even more egregious. I don't give
a damn about no rotation. That is your workhorse, that
is your bail cow, six foot three, two hundred and
fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'm gonna let him. You're not getting the ball back
New England.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And when you do get it back, guess what it's
gonna be minimum time or you're gonna be down by
more than what we got, more than what you were
when we got the ball back.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But man hey, Malik Willis is gonna play himself into
a contract somewhere else next ye o Joe.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Last tonight he.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Was eighteen or twenty one, two eighty eight and one touchdowns,
nine for sixty and another two touchdowns on the ground.
I don't know what Green Bay. I don't know what
Matt Lafleur did. Maybe it's the system, maybe it's the
people a riding, but he didn't look like this in Tennessee.
He looks like a very competent quarterback right now with
your lawyer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's why I always say situations matter, especially as a
rookie going into certain teams. Most of the time when
you go when you go to a team you pick
early in the draft, you go to a team situationally,
it's not really good. He goes to a team now
where he's the back of a quarterback in Green Bay,
surrounded by superior talent, whether it be the lineman, whether
it be the receivers, whether it be the running back
(06:46):
in John Jacobs. So it's it's easy if you're just
a decent quarterback to look the part. That's why he
looked the way he did tonight. He looked really good.
The game started off awesome, The game starts awful, awesome,
but the turnovers, the turnover was killed the dude. When
they did turn them all over, what did the Ravens do?
They capitalized, They capitalized and made points out of those
(07:09):
goddamn turnovers. You look at the Ravens right tonight. They
played Okay, defensively, they played.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But that's a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
O Yo Miss had three incompletions yes, two hundred and
eighty eight yards.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I want you, I want to ask you this on
y'all talk to me.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Explain to me how can Nate Wiggins run four to
eight at the combine play off coverage and teams still
get behind him?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Explain that to me.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, I can tell you that. I can tell you that.
For one, you read the three step and you're seven.
You have seven yards, right, you read the three steps
before he gets on your toes. You got to open
up and be ready to transition. He's gambling and hoping
thinking that the routs are short. You know what, I
can catch up and beat and be and beat players
(07:52):
and using my speed. But hold on, you run four two.
You run four two, right, But the person that's in
front of you, that's running by you, runs four three.
So you're not gonna be able to turn and go
unless you're already in motion going back. You can't transition
and turn your hips and and hang with somebody that
running full three. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, let me ask you this, oh Joe, what good
is the gambling gonna do? He can't catch the ball.
He had an opportunity to see the game last week Okay,
the ball hit him in the chance. He gets right
and the ball hit him in.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The chance and on the slant route. Yes, but why
is he gambling? That's not you.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You are knocked the ball down type of guy, So
stay in your place and knocked the ball down. He
was bad tonight. I mean, Marlon Humphrey got a tip
mark looking in the back for you. Marl, you got contained.
That's sure, you have contained. And guess what, and guess
what being knowsy trying to play somebody else responsibility. The
guy get got outside. But the night he wore him down,
(08:47):
and he was sensational. And as I said, Chat, I
think you guys wild agree with me. What happened last
week was egregious. I don't want to hear nothing about
no rotation.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Go ahead, Joe, I have a question about last night. Now,
the Green Bay Packers didn't play very well against the
defense against the run. Last week against the Patriots, the
Patriots played seemingly well against the run. They played siemilely
well against the run where it forced it forced the
raven to get up out of it. Okay, this isn't
working when we're trying to do it. It's not working.
(09:16):
What do they do? They abandoned it. They abandoned it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But dark he what did Derreck Henry rush yards had
last week? He had two touchdowns on shoe you remember
he just remember that last touchdown in the fourth quarter
on Shoe. He didn't play again for another ten minutes
to fifty three seconds, So the rest of the game
he didn't play. Yeah, oh, Joe, he had one hundred
and twenty eight rush yards last week. They didn't shut
no run down on eighteen carriers. The Ravens shut him down.
(09:43):
John Harbaugh and Todd Mounkin shut him down. You remember
the saying, is the only person that could keep Michael
Jordan from scoring twenty points.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
With Joe Smith?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Okay, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's just sold coach Smith.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The only person that shut Derrick Henry down last week
was his head.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Coach and his offensive cord.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
There's no way I don't care about the rottation because
we've seen this chat in other sports, in basketball or
in baseball, a pitcher, when you got a bulldog, when
you got a bomb gardener, when you gotta curshall, when
you got a page on Roger Clemings, or a Randy
Johnson on the mound. I don't give a damn out
no pitch count.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I got.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I got Hall of famers out there, y'all get it.
He got a Hall of Fame running back and you're
gonna turn that over. And this is not a knock
on Keith Mitchell, because I think he's phenomenal. But in
that situation, Dack Henry Hey bro eighteen care Oh joe,
he had thirty six to night on.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
A short week.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, yeah, And you mean to tell me you let
him have eighteen and you couldn't give.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Him twenty four, twenty five, twenty six? That hell you say?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, I mean, listen you, you're right, You're right. And
I'm trying. I can't remember the game by memory. But
obviously I don't think it was a quiet one twenty eight.
I don't even know he had one twenty eight last year.
It was a quiet one two eight? Was he gashing him?
The way they was doing was the way he was
doing tonight? He was gashing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He had to remember, like the second carry of the game,
he broke off of what a thirty yard touchdown? Yeah,
and think about it, oh yoe, at eighteen yards and
one hundred and twenty eight. Think about yards per carry?
That is yeah, cut that dadn is seven yards to carry?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It is I'm not sure why they are abandoned. I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Maybe that's a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Eighteen seven five three As a matter of fact, that's
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's seven yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So you know, eighteen times.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Seven, that's a five poop Kevin boo boop.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah. And you know, you know what sometimes happens on
coaches offensively, You overthink, You overthink things, your analyze thing
too much. You think something not working. And obviously your
bell cow was working last week and to me, I
mean to me, it was a quiet one twenty because
I didn't even know it. In order for them to
go away from Derrick Henry, they have to see, well,
you know, what we're trying to do isn't working. Because
for the right for in my right state of mind
(11:55):
as offensive coach, if what we're doing in the running
game is working, then why would I go away from it?
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They didn't go away from it. They said they were
on a rotation. It was Derek Henry had his time,
his his Uh, now it's time for the other running
backs to get into the road. No, no, you don't
do that. Analytics do see. You lose a sense of
the game, you lose a field or the game. You
lose a false of the game. Derrick Henry running, he
(12:25):
had just gave your touchdown, gave you a ten point lead.
Oh there you down? Know, dare you not down? This series?
There you up?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You know? You know? And and no, And nobody can
override that too. That's the funny part about it. Nobody,
nobody can override that. Maybe maybe eight, maybe a could
say something, you know, but I don't think eight. He
has enough on his plate to worry about, especially in
the last week's game, you know, before before he went out.
I mean, I just, I just I'm you know, Derek
Henriet is quiet. He's not gonna say nothing, you know,
in a situation like that. So, I mean, I mean,
(12:54):
it is what it is. They look goddamn, they look
real good tonight. As far as as far as playoff
implications are, are are they in? They have to do.
Pittsburgh have to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Lose to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh wins, they win the division. Okay,
so yeah, Pittsburgh loses. Now it comes down to the
final game. Of the season. But if Pittsburgh wins to tomorrow,
to Pittsburgh wins the division.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, I understand the division. I mean playoff implications though,
Do they still have a chance to get in?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Uh? The Ravensts. No, I don't think so. Ravens have
a chance to get the playoffs. Yeah, if they win
the division. Yeah yeah. If they have to win the division,
they cannot get into the wild card.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No, that's gonna be tough. That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Because you got the Chargers that are already in and
that's what you call them, got Texans, the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Texans, that's right. Okay, So so they got to hope
for the Steelers to lose. Who are still who the
Steelers got on?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The Browns?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, listen, I know it's the brown but that's
always the tough mat.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Crazy Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
If he go crazy, they got a chance.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He got to he got to hold on, hold on. Wait,
there's a good chance the Browns might win Aaron Rodgers
without DK Metcalf too, ain't he.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Uh, let's see the the Broncos win the f C
West has a chance for the number one seed if
they beat the Chargers next week, or if New England
loses Jacksonville, they could, uh, they could. Jacksonville could win
the win number one seed. If the Patriots lose and
the Broncos lose their final game. No, no, no, they don't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If if Jacksonville wins out because Jacksonville beat them head
to head, they would have to get the number one seed. Absolutely.
If Jacksonville wins out and the Broncos lose their final game,
they would have the They will be the same record.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
A f C West.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, so, but Buffalo is already level in the four.
The Houston Texas are having to have a level wins. See,
there's no way for Baltimore to get any more or
most they can get his nine. Yeah, and you already
you already got you already got three teams with a
level wins wins. Yeah, the math and mathing. So with
that being said, O Joe, look, I just think the
thing else and I wouldn't have been disappointed, O Joe,
(15:14):
given his injury history and how limited he was, and
he didn't look like himself Tyler Huntley. Now we've seen
him go other places. O Joe, Miami look like himself.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But in Baltimore, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, in Baltimore he looks very very common.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Maybe it's something in the water, maybe it's the dungeon,
his crabs. But if you watch him play when he's
at quarterback in Baltimore, yeah, watch him play any other
place is night and day.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, different schemes on different scheme, different offenses, and
and you have to you have to be a special quarterback.
You have to elite, an elite quarterback to go in
any system and be able to function and be able
to function. And obviously you saw Tyler hunter was in Miami.
When it was in Miami, I was I was hype,
was out of saying, boy, Tyler Huntley gonna go out
(16:03):
there and go crazy. And I was saying him go
crazy because of what I've seen him do in the
past when he was with the Ravens. But obviously, a
different offenses, different scheme, and this scheme in Baltimore fits
him and shuits his skill set extremely well, which is
why he looked the way he looked at night.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But when you get Dack Henry running the football like that,
so now you can play ashing off it. Zay Flowers
had five targets. He had or catchers, a touchdown, a
great speed out turn, get the ball in the in
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He held onto it. I thought Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, guys that when he threw the ball towards
likely likely caught it. When he threw the ball towards Andrews,
he caught it. When he threw the ball to Flowers,
he caught it, and they did something with it. But
the night belonged to Derreck Henry. When you get thirty
six rush attempts, two hundred and sixteen yards and four touchdowns. Yeah,
and this game should have been over because, oh Joe, dude,
the officials not understand the rules. A defender cannot go
(16:56):
low on a blocker. Yeah, seventy seven. He probably gonna
with him anyway, but to defend the ninety went low
on him.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You can't do that. And then they missed the passing affairs.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The dude had a hot d hawk callar like this
with his right hand, which is the way, and he
batted the ball with.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Him laught hold on, not even that you can't touch
the receiver past five yards. They engaged right away. I
understand he has a right for the ball, but you can't.
You can't use your hands and feel where the receiver
is to be able to make a play on the ball.
You got to play with your eyes and your feet
in your hands.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I agree, so uh, but the Ravens look good tonight,
Dereck Hary Tyler Huntley. Tyler Huntley should GTI a game ball.
The offensive line should get a game ball, and Deck
Henry Damn Show deserves a game ball because when you
run the ball fifty three times for two hundred and
seven yards, four touchdowns, you've done something. And Tyler Huntley
(17:50):
came in and he ran when he needed to run.
He found, he found throwing lanes.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Played extremely well checked and I think you guys agree
with me. He played extremely extremely well. But last week,
and I can't it reiterate this enough. The way Deck
Henry ran the ball tonight makes last week even more egregious.
If I'm Steve Bushatty, I am furious, yes, that John
(18:17):
Harbaugh allowed this to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't care about a rotation. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Who was supposed to be the next man. It's supposed
to be his turn. Bro you do realize your own
life support, You own life support, and you allow something
like this, Well going back, we shouldn't have to go
back at it, you know, going into the game.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
This is where we are. We need to win this game.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The Steelers had already won, so we need to win
this game to keep pace. That way, we go get
beat New England. Beat New England. Excuse me, we go
beat Green Bay. We steal one game back, we beat them,
We win the vision. Yes, that's all you had to do.
It's just it's infuriating to me that that they and
he try to give you. Well, you know, it's his turn,
(19:06):
and you know, so forth and so on, and Derreck
Henry good Derrick Henry Like, Hey, it was you know,
his turn. And I have no problem with that. I
have the utmost trust in anybody that comes in. I
trust the coaches. I get all that. I trusted my
coaches too, But I know, damn well, coach wasn't sending
no backup in when we don't if the fourth quarter
and we had a two minute drive. Unless I get fatigued,
(19:27):
it ain't. He ain't starting no drive. I guarantee you that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But also you have to think about this when it
comes into the fourth quarter, right, and being that Dereck
Henry is a downhill back, you need a dual threat.
You need not only someone that can run the ball
that's a little change of pace, a little faster, a
little speedier, a little quicker, but it can also catch
it out the backfield, could also do those other things
that Dereck Henry doesn't do, especially those situations. So that
(19:51):
might might explain it a little bit. They wanted to
do it. They wanted to be able to do a
little bit more offensively outside of it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We got the lead.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Okay, he can catch you on the back field. How
many pass they throw you the back out of the
backfield again?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He listen, I'm just trying to tell you what Mitchell
is good at. Huh. I'm just telling I'm not saying
he Christian McCaffrey. I'm not saying he that, But I'm
just telling you he provides that offensively outside of what
we're he gonna do.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That is what we needed. Three yards and the cloud
of dust.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's it. Killer clock. Hey, listen, I'm with you. When
you're right, I ain't gonna argue with you.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Hey, the man say, he said, if it ain't a way,
I'll make away. That's what I'm telling Darren Henry. Hey, coach,
it ain't no hole make one. What's smoking? Mama told it.
She gave him a dollar, So girl, get me a
pocket cigarette. Ain't a dollar it enough smoking enough?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So man, Dave Hearry, Hey, he better be player of
the week. Did I win my did I pick with
my prize? Pet because I told you what you call
I'm gonna get no two hundred some yards?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, Domson the first player of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, dogs winning.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He hass sixty two. Herbert was left two thirty something.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, two thirty six. Herbert threw for three thirty six.
He might have needed to thirty six. Justin Herbert, that
was it. That's what he needed. I thought he needed
to have two thirty six. Hold on, what do you
say now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
This some bullgeie.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Ah hell no.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Dack Henry has the most two hundred rush yard games
in NFL history, his seven breaks of tie that he
had with Adrian Peterson and O. J.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Simpson.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Tiki Barber has five, Ladanian Thomason has four, Barry Sanders
Earl Campbell and Jim Brown all has four. Henry officially
passed Tony door Set to move in the tenth all
time in career rush yard list, and just before half,
he moved past Adrian Peterson one twenty for fourth all
time rushing and touchdown. He now has one hundred and
(22:24):
twenty two touchdowns. He's one behind from Tide Marcus Allen
to to break the tie Ladanian Thomas in the second
with one forty five. Emmitt Smith won sixty four. If
you can stay healthy for three four more years, he
might he could possibly.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Catch Yeah, and listen, this is the funny thing about
it is is we will he be to do it?
What team will he be on to be able.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
To carry he come in? He need to come back
to Baltimore next year. I think he's gonna get at
least at least one more year with Baltimore. I don't
think now they're gonna have to make some hard decisions.
They're gonna make some decisions on Marlin Humphrey. They're gonna
make some decisions on Rokwon Smith. They're gonna make They're
gonna try to move some things around. What are they
gonna do? And you know, you hear all these scenarios
that could possibly trade.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Lamar.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But they gotta get that captain under control. They got
to get that under control. Say Flowers, he got twenty
eight million dollars next year, Oh Joe because he made
the pro bow for the second time. So you you
got some issues that you gotta get resolved. But they
got to get past Russias o'hoe. They got to they
got it. They gotta shore. They gotta show up their
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cornerback position. It's it's it's it's not up to par,
and you can't. You can't, you can't, you can't win.
It's it's really that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Simple, right Okay, okay, but uh.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The Rabi were the biggest to do or fast tomorrow
is Steelers lost to the Browns will set up and
want to take all AFC North title game next week,
and the Steelers do not have dk. Look, the one
thing the Steelers can do is get after your quarterback.
Oh yeah, the one thing the Browns can't do is
protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's a recipe made in hell.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good game. No, it's gonna
be it's gonna it's gonna be a good game. You know,
I'm I'm hoping that's the game. I'm gonna be tuned
in watching. I'm sure other people will be watching as well,
because I'm excited, not not for the matchup in general,
not to see the Steelers lose, not even to watch,
you know, sh door, I'm trying to see Miles Garrett
get this goddamn sack record. Yeah, yeah, and listen. I
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send him a message too. I say, when you get
that record, I want that jersey you got on when
you get that record. I asked Miles for the jersey.
I want the jersey you wear when you break that record.
I want to sign it for me and and and
that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You better, hey, you better. You better be the Hall
of Fame. You better be Canton, because that jersey they're
gonna be. I guarantee you. They got people that Canton.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh no, I asked for it first. Okay, Hey, hold on, Hey,
can't can't get the jersey before.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I do, absolutely my hell.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Any any record breaker, like with Peyton, when Peyton broke
the record most touchdowns in the passing season, I broke
thank he broke Tom's the fifty when he got fifty five.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That went there.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
When he broke Drew Brees yardage that went in the cleat.
They take everything.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Well, I tell you what. I'll tell you what. Listen,
the Cleveland Browns organization, they have plenty jerseys, they have
plenty jers. They can sit in the Hall of Fame
another one.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But there as he take that jersey off, they're gonna
be right there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'll tell you what he done told me I can
have that jersey. And Miles Garrett, if you see this,
if you don't give me that jersey, it's gonna be
consequences because you promised me that jersey. I promise with
your ass.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Because I remember when I broke down to see me
that stuff back. Because when I broke the touchdown record,
they are that much that I guess they didn't know
I was gonna have three touchdowns Monday. They they got
they I think they got. What did they get the
jersey or the shoes? They took something?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I need my shoes back.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh you want to back? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
What's cotton up? Broke my record? Tony broke it and
then Gates broke it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But I want to see the tight end to break
gage record one hundred and sixteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh yeah, him and him and Phillip was cooking off.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They were cooking. He remember he had drew at first.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, drew first.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, they were cooking. Got tonight, man, tonight. I was
very impressed with the Baltimore Ravens offense. I thought Tyler
Hunter did a great job. They didn't ask him to
do much, but he was on target and when he
needed to use his legs because there were some third
downs that he got out of arm's way, got the
first down, set them up on set sometimes on second
down he set them up on thirty short. But tonight
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belonged to Derrick Henry. Thirty six carries two hundred and
sixteen yard four touchdowns. Now he's the all time He
has more two hundred yard rush games than any other
player in NFL history, and he's one touchdown behind time
Marcus Allen for third all time in rush touchdowns. Two
to move in third place by himself. Malik Willis O
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Joe when you look at him, look, I think George
loves phenomenal Goya pro bo talent. If Malik Willis provides
something that Love doesn't, and that's legs, he can get
gone in a hurry.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well, listen, listen, listen, I'm listen. Jordan Love is not
the slowest in the world, but he's not Malik Willis
when it comes to being a dual threat at the
quarterback position. Now, when it comes to being the thrower
of the ball, I mean, Jeordan Love is the better
player in general. That's what you reasons why he's one
of the one of the highest paid quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
In the league.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
This is what with the with the Packers have that
not very many other teams have. Is when your starting
quarterback goes down, do you have someone that can come
in and keep your head above water and still run
the offense like and you had that tonight and Malik
Willis showed that in the right situation, I'm a competent
starting quarterback in this NFL. Now, the part that I
don't like is where you just said he set himself
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up to be a starter somewhere else. But then if
you go somewhere else and they'll have the supporting cats
that you have in Green may now the owners being
a better quarterback than what you want when you're not
surrounded by uh, not elite talent, but great talent, good talent.
Now you've got to be that much better.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And yeah, the receivers that he has around him really, look,
they're not they're not chased, they're not these upper I
think Christian Watson can be really good if he can
stay healthy. He doesn't only knock is because you can.
He's a speed guy.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So he's he's he's real, he's he's not.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Built thirty and so the least little thing or shoulder
niggas hamstring, he's over he's overcome that knee injury towards
a cl He totally recovered from that, but he's had
some problems staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
When he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He could be an absolute true number one.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
They're there group in general, it's a young group as
a young group, and they play very well off each
other because all of them do things differently. They all
play receiver, but all of them do things differently. Uh
obviously read uh Hicks. I want to see them use
Matthew Golden. They got him so early, he ran a
FOURD too, but they don't use him or put him
in the right positions to make the players for having
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that kind of speed that he has. I'm not sure
what they're doing with him. But I would love to
love to see him be a little bit more intricate
part of the office, especially with the kind of speed
he had. You you're a four two guy, A fourtune
guy is supposed to show up on film, a fourtune guy.
When when you turn on the film even like, well, goddamn,
who the hell is that? And I just don't get
that from him. When you watch Tyreek Hill play, it's like, well, goddamn,
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who the hell is a.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
If you notice with Tyreek, they ran Tybreek on jet sweeps,
they hand the ball off to him, they run smoke screens.
You're not just gonna just run by people unless you're
Randy Moss now, because that's the thing. And what Andy
Reid did for Tyreek is that he used him in
so many different areas and used him so many different
ways that now, yeah, I can unwind.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
With this speed.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But you think about all the smoke screens, think about
all the jets sweeps, think about all the hand the reverse,
all the reverses that they gave him on and so
now he he can really use that for me, because
we really don't know how and when they're gonna use it.
Now now he's able to get past people. They just
use Matthew Golden. They don't use him with anybody but.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
On the deep route, you know. And I don't know
understand why they do that, because Tyreek Hill got himself
to a point to where he was somewhat of a
gadget player. But then he got better at the route cher.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, that's what he was when he first came in.
He was return exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Then all of a sudden he gets confidence, and I
obviously no confidence is the most important thing when you're
playing this goddamn game. All of a sudden, not he's
taking short routes to the house, not he taken the
intermediate route to the house. He taking over and slants
and all that stuff, and then to add to his game.
And at that point, now it's no way to stop
if you don't know what the hell he gonna do.
So I want to see Matthew Golden get better in
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that area where when he comes back to Green Bay
next year, they don't have a choice but to use
him because he can do so much. So, Matthew Golden,
I want to make sure I see you down here
in Miami in July at the wide receiver workshop, which
we just need you for two days. Baby, come on,
I'll let you boy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Let's work love with Viral this week.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Ojo for re sportedly spending under five thousand dollars to
buy his teammates Nike dunk sneakers for Christmas. Love signed
the two hundred twenty million dollar contract and is getting
paid fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
A year, o Jo? Is it a fair critique of
love for being cheap?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Ah man, I wouldn't call it a fair critique of love.
But sometimes quarterbacks, those that those that make large sums
of money, they give their they get their office alignement,
really really good gifts. You saw what Aaron Rodgers gave
his is Oh yeah, hey listen.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We call him doom buggets. I don't know what they
call now.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, yeah, I saw Patrick.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Somebody got golf clubs, Patrick saw Jack. I mean, you
know some cam Woard gave his Louis Biton stuff and
Nintendo's and this and that. So normally normally, uh, I
think Patrick mahonk uh uh party gave his offensive Lineman
Toyota tundras last year.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He must he must have, he must have what you
call it? Yeah, you must have a sponsor with Toyota. Yeah,
Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know, normally, normally the quarterbacks that they go they
kind of go have it. Patrick Holes somebody, I think
it was Patrick ma Holmes or somebody got got Rolexus.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
For his teams last year. Josh Allen. Yeah, quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Look, you're making that kind of money, and you're probably
making if you're a top flight quarterback. If you're making
forty fifty million dollars, I can feel you're probably making
another ten fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So they're like, you know what, you guys, all the
the MVPs and the praise conatulation, I get you. Keep
me protected. Hey, I'm gonna take care of you. I'm
not going to tell the man how to spend his money.
That's his choice. He did what he felt was right.
But I'm just saying normally and hey, to each his own,
each you owe, I'm not I'm not here to tell
somebody because I remember Joe, I was so happy, my
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my I made the Pro Bowl in ninety two as
an alternate. Yes, ninety three, I went back.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I made it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was, I was, I was, I was a starter,
and I was the first team All Pro. And so
the money that I had, I think I had about
twelve five hundred dollars if I make the Pro Bowl,
and I had another twelve than five hundred dollars if
I made on all Protein. That's twenty five thousand I bought.
I bought all the offensivelignement rolexes. Gary Zimmerman with the
left tackle, he said he didn't want one. John said, naughty,
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I'm good. So I bought four the lineman rolexes because
I was just so happy, because I appreciate it, because
I really believe they blocked harder when they when they
knew the ball was coming to sharpie.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Hold on, timeout, timeout, So you bought full rolexes? Right,
you made You made twenty five thousand, right, first team
Pro and you made the Pro Bowl. Now what kind
of rolexes you was able to get under twenty five
thousand for four?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh show? You got to Oh show? Do you know
how long ago this being?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
How long? What year this was?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
This was ninety three? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So the price of rolexes done went up?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So that means, hold on, it's the same watch. And
just because it's twenty twenty five because of the name
that's on it. They charging us more because of the
year we end.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So it's protect so it's to get So it's a
vacheron Constantine.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So it's all the watch fire. Yes, yes, and you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
See how they be chipping or something.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh Joe, you think you could slip by a house
a house in nineteen ninety three. You think you can
go by that same house right now for what you
bought forty ninety three.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, right, listen, not I understand what you mean. But
do me a favorite, real quick. Do me a favorite,
real quick.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yes, I think I played.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think, I think I yeah, that's what it was
the day just uh uh uh a Staylor, you know
it was stainless steel right right right right.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Graves you know think you know had these God put down?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
How much one of them costs back then?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
How much back then was probably about I think about
forty five hundred maybe five.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So how much you think of day they cost right now?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Probably ten eighty five hundred, ten thousands.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Okay, that dang bad.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That ain't bad.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Ain'ta Do me a favorite real quick? What time it is?
Eight forty three, eight forty three? You just gave me
the time, right, how much that cost me?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Hey, normally I would tell you say I normally get
smart with your time for you to buy a watch.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Hey, hey, it's free. You know you got an iPhone,
don't you. Yeah, it's telling time, don't it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But a watch of an accessory?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Who an accessory?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I am You can go.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You can go to an a bit barefooted if you wanted to, right, right,
but you buy shoes.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm just I'm just just a nice accessory. You could
go by yourself if they say a plus one. But
you're gonna take Cambodia.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Oh yeah, that's a nice boy. Hey, that's that's the accessory.
Matter of fact, if she on the hip, I don't
even need no watch. Yeah, yes, yes, you looking at it?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
They looking at her anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh yeah, boy, who you telling?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah look at that?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah nigga, this spy boy, boy that boy love for
Campbodia man died. The Texans beat the Chargers, and doing
so they get gifted the Debora Broncos to ALC West.
The text beat the Chargers twenty to sixteen. Houston punched
their ticket to the playoff for the third consecutive year,
which is the most in their young franchise's history. Texans
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still having a shot at claiming the division depends on
whether the Jazz can lose either the next two games.
If the Jazz falls to the Coats or the Titans
Houston beats the Coats in Week eighteen, the Texans will
win the AFC South. I don't see that happening. The
Chargers lost to the Texans clanched the division for the
Broncos for the first time in ten years a team
has won the division other than the Kansas City Chiefs,
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because you know, we won in twenty eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
That was the t Bow won his last year's ye Martin,
and then Peyton came he won it four straight years,
and then Alex Smith got there, and then Alex Smith
and then obviously my homeboy took over from there. Jayden
Higgins and jayl Le Noel became the second rookie doe
in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
In the first is.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Nineteen thirty eight to each score touchdown receptions on forty
plus yards in the same game. Since they strived with
sixteen to twenty eight two forty four two touchdowns, two
very costly picks.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Didn't cost them, but it could have. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
They ran the ball three four times for one hundred
and eighteen yards. Higgins had two catches eighty eight yards
of one to seventy five yard touchdown. Nicole Collins had
three for fifty seven for twenty three big on third down.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Jayaln Noel had three for fifty four.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Justin Herbert had was twenty one of thirty two two
thirty six, one touchdown, one exception.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
He was sacked five times.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Boy, if he was not as athletic and as big
as strong as he was, he probably been should have.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Been sacked about ten times. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Easy.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Quentin Johnson had five for ninety eight. Rondez Gassen dropped
the couple. He had three for thirty two in the
touchdown lab. McConaughey had one for thirty one and that
was it. But CJ's got to be he forced some
balls in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He did.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't know what he was looking at. That first
touchdown was agregious. Why would you throw that?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah? Look, hey, that defense came out fire go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh yeah, listen, the goddamn goddamn Texas Uncle. I thought
I was gonna believe be a blowout, but understanding the
floor of the game, a high game and goals, the
momentums with was with Texas. With the Texans them first
and the first two drives, I think, I think, I
think it was Uh, them had to be blown coverages.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Huh they had to be No it it will look
like it would. I don't know what a safety went.
I would have to go back, but I looked like
the sabody.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Somebody was holding him.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Corners playing outside leverage, and.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know, you know, you know who you vulnerabrad. If
I wouldn't even play outside leverage, you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Got you if you give up the gold ball did.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What That's why I said, you know, if you go
to that post, you dead to the water. So I
I'd rather play head up. So I got a two
way go to be able to make to be able
to be putting myself in a better position to be
able to make a play because you and no man's
land by yourself and the goddamn safety being hell in
the middle of the field wide ass open.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That's what the decordiny to tell you. Son.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
That's on me because oo oo, now I got you
outside leverage, you give up a god ball.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna snatch your ass up.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You come to the sideline, I'm telling you, I put
your ass outside for a reason.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
But but see, uncle, can I tell you something real quick?
This is why if I play defensive back, it's a
thinking man's game. It's a chance match your most I
understand what the defense caused me to do. I understand
what the scheme wants me to do. It wants me
to play outside leverage. And I know the safety is
gonna be hold, gonna be held by something running a
little shorter to get his eyes and get his attention.
I understand the middle of the field gonna be wide open. Yeah,
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what I'm doing, I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and
I'm gonna play the goddamn receive the head up so
I can make a move if you go to the deep,
if you go to the d ball, I can speed turn.
And if you go to the goddamn post, I'm more
than positioned to be able to make a play at
least make a play. But I don't want to be
in in no man's land with goddamn outside leverage. And
he goes to the post and now I gotta play
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catch up to somebody just fasts me. It ain't no,
ain't nowhere, and hell, I'm gonna get to the ball.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Well, I'm hoping what I'm hoping is l yo I played,
because what you're hoping is they don't have a play
call that goes to the post, bing go See, that's
why I'm playing that coverage because I'm not gonna play.
I'm not gonna put my guy in harm's weight having
playing outside leverage. If I think they're gonna run around
to the post, Because if I think they're gonna run aroun.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
To a post, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm gonna call a defense where I got a whole
sainty over playing quarters.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, that way I'm protected in this situation.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
They probably showed something what they normally do and they'll
nobody's probably thrown it.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
They held it and then guess what he.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Breaks It got great protection and it basically ran the
same route to the other.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Side, basically the right. But they listen the goddamn charge.
The spotted them boys fourteen points. I was like, boy,
it's gonna be a blowout. It's finna be It's finna
be a blow out. Then the offense stall, then the
Texas offense stall, and the god damn damn charged with
they were playing good defense, yeah, playing, they're playing good defense,
and obviously with them to of them two interceptions, they
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should have had an opportunity to come back and win
this game.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Also, guess what happened with the Chargers. Do they threw
a pick on the one yard picker?
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Then mister p a t then mister field goal. Yeah,
that was only one for three in the red zone.
You kick field gold, you get your ass kicked. You
kick somebody else thet.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think if Gason, if Gaston doesn't drop that ball
and it gets kicked off, I think that the score,
that then the score, that this game would be different.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It'll be different.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Maybe you're right, o't Joe? I mean, I think the
thing is we don't know. And and to kick the
Cowboys while they're down, because I can't think of a
better time. Think about Justin Herbert has been sacked fifty times.
He's sacked the third most quarterback in the NFL. He
sacked five times a day he was pressing another Again,
think about it. The Cowboys didn't touch it one time.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
M hm oh.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Also, the Cowboys don't got no goddamn than Neil Hunter.
The goddamn Cowboys don't got Will Anderson.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Either, cut Jason Jarson. They better at rushing the passer.
Now they got rid of Michael You know who I.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Would love to play with. Matter of fact, he's playing
in the wrong era. Voontas Berfect and Shazir Am. I
saying it right, boy, They do not belonging. They belong
back in the eighties, a Berfect in al Shazier. They
belong playing football in the eighties because they played a
chap Hey Vontez Berfeck and al Shazier belonging. They played
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football the way football is supposed to be played before
the rules changed, before the game got watered down in
the in the NFL is handicapped defenses and allowing them
to play ball to where they can have some type
of advantageous competitive edge. Now the hand is tied behind
their back. But I love the way them boys play.
I love the way them boys play. And this is coming.
This is coming from an offensive player, an offensive player
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who you know who really doesn't care, so I appreciate
his style of playing the way they play that god
damn Derek Stingley Junior and that god damn Lassiter boy.
They got, they got the whole, They got the whole
shebang over that defensively, and I think, I think once
they make the playoff they can make a very good
run because their defense is so good. Their defense is
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so good on all three levels, whether it's the back end,
whether it's the front end. That the linebackers are okay,
but where they make they hate is upfront, and they
got damn back in. And if CJ. Stroud can play
complimentary football without turning the ball over, because you can't
have no goddamn two turnovers. Not in the playoffs, that's
not gonna happen because the teams you're playing are gonna
make you pay double for that. They definitely gonna make
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you pay double for that. So outside of that, man,
the game was good today that the Texans pulled it off.
Goddamn the Texans. I mean, they was only three ft
eleven on third down, only three ft eleven on third down,
but hell, they won two turnovers and they still won
the game. And I think they won that game because
the defense defense, defense played really well because all of
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those turnovers they did have the goddamned the charges weren't
able to capitalize on those turnovers, and obviously I think
I think the score line would have been much different
than Gaston hadn't to drop that ball was kicked off.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I would think it just what you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Well, you get you're getting another drink, you know, if it's.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That camp at it? Yeah, hey, hey talking, you just
doing you're doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, you know what, what's I
get to go on? I done took a nap. I
done took a nap today, Uk, I took a nap
day because I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
About to take you what right on? You give me
another ten minutes, I'm gonna take a nap on you.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I got you. This is one of those nice where
we can go for three hours and I'm gonna be good.
I'm ready. I'm ready to talk.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
O yo.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I do believe Houston Texans have a Super Bowl defense.
My concern with pressure. Yeah, when they pressure, he's not
the same guy. C Stroud. Oh okay, look at look
at look at his numbers today when he got pressured.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Look at his numbers against pressure.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
You know, they need to do a better job of
too un because see the shroud is not a dual
threat quarterback, but he does. He does have great pocket presence.
He does know how to move in the pocket to
be able to buy himself time. But when they add pressure,
every time they do add pressure or the pressure is coming,
the goddamn plays are too long. He got to wait
for the goddamn rouph to develop. If you know, based
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on down and distance, when people are gonna blitch shorten
up the route.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Concepts, you keep trying to hit home runs. I don't
know if your offensive line is gonna be able to
hold up. It's not like It's not like CJ got
legs like that. That's not what he is. He is
a pocket passer.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yes, a damn good one at that too, especially if
you give him time. That's one thing about it. Listen,
he don't got no doctor's cot on, but he can
be surgical with that goddamn ball if you get some time.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
The Texans Jalen pretreat with an all time quote from
the locker room today, God is the greatest. The Texans
defense may be second Houston marker selling time in the
Super Bowl since nineteen sixty six. A team has qualified
for the postseason after starting oh and three.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, hey, that's dope. That's dope. That's one thing about it.
I'm not sure what coach told him when they started
owing three, you know, to keep them boys from not folding,
because you know, it can be very demoralizing to go
through training camp, to go through the off season program,
then to start the season and all the work you
put in and you qu out there and you have
a goose egg you owe and three and to be
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able to bounce back from that, boy what you know,
you know what kind of locker room that take.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yes, But you got to give a lot of credit
for Davis Mills because when he went down, Yeah, I
mean when CTD went down, David's Mill kept him afloat.
Remember the same thing Rock Party, when he goes.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Down, Matt Jones, he kept him.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
That's why you need quality depth at that position.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
But that's that's the hard part.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
That's that's the hard part, is being able to find
a quarterback that fits that system, that fits that scheme,
that can keep you above water, your starter once you
start to go down, Boy as hell. You see what
happened with J. J. McCarthy, JJ McCarthy went down. What
young girl looked like?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
That?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
That that that that played the other night for Minnesota?
What what he looked like?
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Good and terrible?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But who you telling? It?
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Wasn't called you look terrible? JJ?
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So I mean, hey, he like they drew it from
Tom Brady till somebody he.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Was he was bad news.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Hey, now listen now they I don't mean to be
I don't mean to be jumping off topic or jumping
to a different team. But Minnesota has some decisions to make.
They got some very important decisions to make. And I
can tell you who's probably going to be the quarterback
of the Minnesota Viking next year. A competent quarterback that
got at least delivered the ball. And you know what
you get when you get him. I guarantee you Flacco
end up in Minnesota next year until until you can
(47:47):
fix the situation.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I know, Jella be happy to see you.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, who you telling?
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You? See what Flacco did when when Joe went down, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I'm on now now he now he throw for as yards?
Oh yeah, but he's gonna have it, damn there, he
gonna have at least half as many pigs he has touchdown.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
But you gotta think about this too. You think about Minnesota.
What does Minnesota have that the Bengals don't.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Or what a defense come on that?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
But even on that, it's hard to overcome turnovers because
the one thing that helps your defense is that you
don't put him on a short field. Continue you make
somebody drive seventy and eighty yard. Now you keep putting
the team on short fields. Mention that defensive crack. Yeah,
it's gonna break. It's gonna break. So look, I think
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Malik Willis has showed his value and he's gonna get
an opportunity to go somewhere, just like mac Jones. Mac
Jones signed a two year deal. He could have signed
a one year deal. Oho parlaid that, but he said,
you know what, I want to get somewhere stable. I
want to get someone that has an offense that and
I thought mac Jones was perfect for the West Coast
offense when he came out. Basically, Bark Purty is probably
(48:56):
a little bit more athletic. Mac Jones doesn't have the
biggest arms, processes information.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Very very well can get there a.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Party as a tad more athletic because he seemed to
be able to make players on the run. But when
you run the football with McCaffrey, when you can run
it and you can play action off of that, because
that's what the West Coast Systems short passing game is
an extension of the run. But the Texans think, yeah,
I do back to the Texas, O Joe. I think
the Texans can make some noise, but it's all gonna
be contingent on how well there's c J.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Stroud. Because if I'm a team, I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna heed him Up'm gonna dial I'm
gonna dial it up on it on Joe, because I
don't really honestly, I don't really fear anybody but Nico Collins. Now,
I know they're looking to hit the ball over the top.
But if I you know, I might bring in it. I
might because I'm not overly concerned with their run game
on you.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah, I think Jalen Marx is what excuse me, what
he marks is fine, But I'm not. It's not like,
oh my god, they got Derick Henry, they got James Cook,
or they got you know, they got somebody like that.
Jonathan Taylor. I don't fear them like that, right right,
But uh, I'm I'm a heat, I'm will heat. I'm
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I'm not gonna lie when he strode up because I
see that seems to cause him a problem.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
And and all that all it comes down to, All
it comes down is stop having those long aft development players.
If you know, yeah, they do based on down and
based on down the distance you know that pressure is coming.
You don't watch film. You got listen. You got seventeen
weeks worth of film to know what teams are gonna
(50:31):
do to you. You understand what they do when they're
gonna bring pressure. Why they're bringing pressure because the players
you're running it taken too long to developed established the run.
And when you do throw the ball, hell, goddamn quick game.
Get the ball out of CJ's hands, Allow him to
get that rhythm, Let him catch that rhythm, get the run.
Game boom. Okay, now we can go deep. Now we
can do something else. Now we can we could play
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a little bit with the offense. It's all about creativity.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Oto p K confirmed that Max Cropping left the building
after he was told he would not play in the
final two games of the season. He said, I like
to get out of here, so I said, get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
He took off. It's exactly what you would think he
would do.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
He should and I agree with him one thousand percent
on how he responded. According to Adam Schefter, Max Crosby
is expected in the knee surgery and the Raiders are
placing him on the injury reserve.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Well funny today.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Earlier today, Max Crosby was posting a video on IG
He's playing basketball with his daughter and jumping on the trampoline,
sending a clear message to the Raiders. Crosby it's ticked
after being placed on IR because if you look at it,
over the last several years, no defensive lineman has played
more snaps than Max Crosby. Clearly he wanted to continue that,
O Joe. He's like, Hell, I've been playing with this
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bad ass me for the longest and now all of
a sudden, the last two games, y'all don't want me
to play.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But anyway, Ojo, what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Hey? I think it's something else. Honestly, I think it's
something else. Why would you shut him down? Since when?
Since when does a team of the doctors override a
player that says I'm able to play. I think it's
something that I think it's something that's that we don't
know about. It might be in sentences. Huh, it might
be something like that, because you know, you know, you've
been around long enough to know team play games like this. Okay,
(52:10):
if he if he, if he gets to a certain
number of snaps, you know what, we're gonna play with him.
We're not gonna let him get it. We don't want
to hit hit the dollars. I could be wrong. I
could be wrong, but there's no reason. What kind of
video he say he made he.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Was on the ig playing basketball with his door and
jumping on the trampoline.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
That that's that's a young fella that can still play
the game and he still wants to play. We talk
about Mac Crosby, we ain't talk about no just know anybody, true,
We ain't talk about no anybody. Mac Crobbs can have
a god damn broken leg. H you know what he
gonna be on the field. That's the type of player
he is. So why would you shut him down knowing
(52:49):
what you got?
Speaker 1 (52:51):
It might be, it might be in sentence, but all
I know is this, if I got playing the guy,
thirty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I ain't putting on centers in the contract.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Whatever you do, go to the Pro Bowl, lead the
team in sack, lead the league in sacks, tackle for losses,
all Pro for thirty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Shouldn't you do that?
Speaker 3 (53:06):
On yo?
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, I mean you thinking to ask your question. Chase
makes forty and a half million dollars? Do you think
I should put incentives in this contract?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Absolutely, not exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It might be a situation on yo, cowboys got a
couple extra picks.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Oh hold on, he hey that look of talking. Now,
go ahead, take your time. Hey, hold on, take take
your time. Not go ahead.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I'm about a make us an offer. You gotta you got, Hey,
I wanna need the first, a first and a third
this year and maybe a second next year.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Hey hey, oh could you Mac and Crosby? Would that
star on his helmet? Oh? That's nasty work right there?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
To it over.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
I love his energy, I love his motor, I love
his passion for the game. I know exactly if I
never look here on the forty six man, this gonna
be active that day. I've never going to Max Crosben,
ask him, is he ready because I already know the answer. Absolutely,
I need me forty five Max Crosby's yes. Now that's
a worry about whether or not that he's ready to play.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Let me tell you something. If you have forty forty five,
no matter of fact, have make it fifty three, you
have fifty three Mac Crosby with that kind of mentality
at their respective positions, you might as well bring the
Lombardi Trophy in early. You might as well bringing in early.
And when I think about the Las Vegas Raiders, Max
Crosby is the essence of what they represent. Oh yeah,
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he absolutely being a Raider is he is their identity.
When you think of the Raiders, the first thing you
think of is Max Crosby. Yes, time, that position is
hell for an offensive player. Yes, when you think about it,
the face of a team, the franchise, that means it's
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a defensive player.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Come on, now, for those for the defensive players.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
If you go back in study the Raiders and you
look at John Mattuzak and you look at the Stork,
and you look at Otis Sis Drump, and you look
at Lester and you look at their defense players back then,
a big Ben date not.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Them yeah, they they own the show back then.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
His Mark Davis' father, Am would have loved Max Crosby.
Oh yeah, absolutely, he would have loved Matt Crosby because
he is the quintessential.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
L a Oakland Raider.
Speaker 3 (55:34):
Mm hmm, hey, I guarantee you. I mean, Chad, I
know y'all got your your your ideas and and and
you see somebody talking about, oh, they probably tanking. That's
why they're not letting him play. Tanking ain't got nothing
to do with that. The tank that I mean, the
Titanic tank. The Titanic already saw it's already saying, yeah,
they at the bottom of the sea. So that has
(55:55):
nothing to do with it. I'm telling you it got
to be Why would you shut him down? Now? Brock
rock Bowles is hurt. He's hurt a difference, He's hurt.
Max is willing and able and wants to play, but
they don't want him to play. Boy. That's clear's day.
Especially if you played the game, you already know what
(56:15):
time it is.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
This thing is turned. This thing is turned from a
search and rescue to just the search. Ain't no rescue,
ain't no rescue. Oh Joe, you at the beginning with
something happens a ship crash, you'll play it's search and rescue.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
After a couple of days. Anytime you have.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
A natural disaster, they talking about search and rescue. Hey,
we already know now we just searching. Ain't no more
rescuing it.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
But I think Max Crobby is probably you know, a
one in the three in a second in twenty seven
because I think the thing is I mean, look, I
know he loves being a raider because, like I said,
he's the quintessential raider. I be Redhead with flat Pirate.
He's perfect. You can't get a more perfect raider that
(57:01):
Max Crosby. But I think deep down he really wants
to win. And I know you want to win in
your original inhabitants. You want to win for the team
that drafted you, that believed in you. Yeah, Sometimes don't
you have to go, You have to go elsewhere to
to fulfill that prophecy and to fulfill that fantasy, that
dream or whatever you whatever you envision happened.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Sometimes you gotta you just gotta leave oo and that
that's unfortunate. And most of the time, some of the
great players, they are staples in those organizations, not just
Max Crosby. You think downing in Cleveland, Miles Garrett, Yeah,
Staple in an organization.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
He definitely going nowhere that you wanted four first rouding.
I mean somebody was offering four first riders for Joe Burrow.
Somebody gonna offer at least three for him.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, I mean that that's crazy. But they will never
They would never get an opportunity to win or be
on the team and compete or have a chance that
competing for a little party. But you never know what
all have doll season holes on. You never know.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Oh yeah, I think we're gonna see some willing I
think when I think, I think, oh Joe, We're gonna
see some willing and dealing. And I think we're gonna
see some people move that we probably didn't think would move.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Probably that's normally how this thing.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Works, that it normally works what you when you least expect,
like damn they released him, damn they trained him.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, but you think about it, right, And I think
people still don't understand when you have these beat reporters,
or you have analysts, or you have pundits that know
inside information that nobody else would know except people inside
those buildings. Right, that's how it starts. That's that's the
start to the forest fire. That's the start to the
forest fire.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Right there. You know who on the phone with him
right now?
Speaker 3 (58:49):
You don't, I don't. I don't they understand. They say, oh,
this person they always hated, Oh this person doesn't work
for the team specifically. They just talking out. No, they're
never talking out. They asks the information is coming from somewhere.
Especially as reporters, your credibility is all you have to
go off of, So you're not gonna say anything just
(59:10):
to be saying it, just to create a story. The
information is coming from somewhere, and they always do. They
always do this, back to even when I was playing,
even before I was playing. Hell, they did it to me.
Wait a minute, how the hell ain't know about that?
And nobody knew about that situation except the people in
this building.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
If I'm the Eagles, I'm on the phone. If I'm
the Buffalo Bills, I'm on the phone. If I'm the
Dallas Cowboys, I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Guess it's gonna be an interesting offseason.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
If any team that you say, we know what the
Indianapolis coach I don't know. You don't have anything because
you gave up your two first rounds, so you're out
of the equation.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
But I'm on the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I am, I am, I'm on the phone, Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
You can't get him. They're not they're not gonna trade
it within the division.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I don't think Green Bay can get him because they
just played Michael. I don't know if you play forty million,
forty plus million for a linebacker and then give another
thirty four million, I don't I don't see that happening,
plus or fifty plus million dollars for your quarterback. I
don't see that happening. With that being said. If I'm Buffalo,
if I'm Philly, if I'm New England, Oh I'm on
(01:00:34):
the phone. Oh yeah, I'm Philly. I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Don't Joe, Yeah, got to be hell. Well, I don't
know if we can afford him.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
But I was going to say, all they can do
is say no, you see the fine girl at the club, man,
I should go talk to her. All she can do
is say I got a boyfriend. I'm not interested. But
what if you say, hey, hey, how you doing. Can
I have your number?
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah? You have my number, you have my I G
whatever they do now? Oh ja yeah, I guess they
trade Instagram? Now yeah? Is that is that? Is that
the new thing?
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
But you ask me, boy, I'm down there fifty seven, man,
I don't know. Yeah, fifty eight okay, okay, yeah, you
know I'm them days old for me. Boy, I ain't got,
I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I'm trying to think where he could be because I
think I'm not trying to go to another sorry team.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I'm going to where I can try to win. Buffalo, Philly,
New England, Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Mmm, I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, we can use some help. Why we can We
can show you some help. You know. We got we
got we got one. We got one solid on the
back end. No DJ Turner, that's that boy. We get
somebody you know up there on that line. Now we
we we're gonna be all right. We get a nice
little in.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Crows had been on the injury reports this week twelve,
missing practice each week since then his knee issue. Did
not practice, but Crosby has played every game Las Vegas
plays the Giants in the game that couldn't decide who
gets the number one pick In twenty twenty six. If
I'm New England, I look, oh T I would love
I love to keep Max Crosby. But I can finish
(01:02:21):
the last place without him. Let me get try to
build this thing. Let me let me try to get
this thing. There's a chance that there's a chance I
can get the number one overall pick. Somebody's gonna give
me a number one pick this year, I get a third.
I get a third this year and a second next year.
I can really start to build my team. Arizona might
be interested. Do you swap Kyler Murray and a first
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round pick Caler Murray the first round pick for Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Now you're just the man. You just said, the man
want to win.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Look, I'm just throwing out scenarios, all things being equal, Right, Philly, Buffalo,
New England.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Let's leave it there, Let's let's let's start again. Yeah,
what about Baltimore. Hey, all the other scenarios just put
him right back in the same situation.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
What about Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Hey, listen, I
can see matc Crosby play like a raven. Make make
make it make sense.
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the chat guys that we mentioned at the top. The
Ravens pulled a five hundred thanks to a forty one
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to twenty four victory over the Packers. Tyler Huntley was
sensational one hundred and seven pass yards, one touchdowns. He
had another sixty yards on eight carries, But the knight
belongs to Derrick Henry thirty six carries, two hundred and
sixteen yards, four touchdowns. The Ravens on tonight fifty three
rush attempts, three hundred and seven yards, four touchdowns, all
(05:34):
four by Derrick Henry. And as I mentioned at the top, guys,
this makes last week even more egregious. I don't give
a damn about no rotation. That is your workhorse, that
is your bail cow, six foot three, two hundred and
fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'm gonna let him. You're not getting the ball back
New England.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And when you do get it back, guess what it's
gonna be minimum time or you're gonna be down by
more than what we got, more than what you were
when we got the ball back.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But man hey, Malik Willis is gonna play himself into
a contract somewhere else next ye o Joe.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Last tonight he.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Was eighteen or twenty one, two eighty eight and one touchdowns,
nine for sixty and another two touchdowns on the ground.
I don't know what Green Bay. I don't know what
Matt Lafleur did. Maybe it's the system, maybe it's the
people a riding, but he didn't look like this in Tennessee.
He looks like a very competent quarterback right now with
your lawyer.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's why I always say situations matter, especially as a
rookie going into certain teams. Most of the time when
you go when you go to a team you pick
early in the draft, you go to a team situationally,
it's not really good. He goes to a team now
where he's the back of a quarterback in Green Bay,
surrounded by superior talent, whether it be the lineman, whether
it be the receivers, whether it be the running back
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in John Jacobs. So it's it's easy if you're just
a decent quarterback to look the part. That's why he
looked the way he did tonight. He looked really good.
The game started off awesome, The game starts awful, awesome,
but the turnovers, the turnover was killed the dude. When
they did turn them all over, what did the Ravens do?
They capitalized, They capitalized and made points out of those
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goddamn turnovers. You look at the Ravens right tonight. They
played Okay, defensively, they played.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But that's a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
O Yo Miss had three incompletions yes, two hundred and
eighty eight yards.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I want you, I want to ask you this on
y'all talk to me.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Explain to me how can Nate Wiggins run four to
eight at the combine play off coverage and teams still
get behind him?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Explain that to me.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, I can tell you that. I can tell you that.
For one, you read the three step and you're seven.
You have seven yards, right, you read the three steps
before he gets on your toes. You got to open
up and be ready to transition. He's gambling and hoping
thinking that the routs are short. You know what, I
can catch up and beat and be and beat players
(07:52):
and using my speed. But hold on, you run four two.
You run four two, right, But the person that's in
front of you, that's running by you, runs four three.
So you're not gonna be able to turn and go
unless you're already in motion going back. You can't transition
and turn your hips and and hang with somebody that
running full three. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, let me ask you this, oh Joe, what good
is the gambling gonna do? He can't catch the ball.
He had an opportunity to see the game last week Okay,
the ball hit him in the chance. He gets right
and the ball hit him in.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The chance and on the slant route. Yes, but why
is he gambling? That's not you.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You are knocked the ball down type of guy, So
stay in your place and knocked the ball down. He
was bad tonight. I mean, Marlon Humphrey got a tip
mark looking in the back for you. Marl, you got contained.
That's sure, you have contained. And guess what, and guess
what being knowsy trying to play somebody else responsibility. The
guy get got outside. But the night he wore him down,
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and he was sensational. And as I said, Chat, I
think you guys wild agree with me. What happened last
week was egregious. I don't want to hear nothing about
no rotation.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Go ahead, Joe, I have a question about last night. Now,
the Green Bay Packers didn't play very well against the
defense against the run. Last week against the Patriots, the
Patriots played seemingly well against the run. They played siemilely
well against the run where it forced it forced the
raven to get up out of it. Okay, this isn't
working when we're trying to do it. It's not working.
(09:16):
What do they do? They abandoned it. They abandoned it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But dark he what did Derreck Henry rush yards had
last week? He had two touchdowns on shoe you remember
he just remember that last touchdown in the fourth quarter
on Shoe. He didn't play again for another ten minutes
to fifty three seconds, So the rest of the game
he didn't play. Yeah, oh, Joe, he had one hundred
and twenty eight rush yards last week. They didn't shut
no run down on eighteen carriers. The Ravens shut him down.
(09:43):
John Harbaugh and Todd Mounkin shut him down. You remember
the saying, is the only person that could keep Michael
Jordan from scoring twenty points.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
With Joe Smith?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Okay, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's just sold coach Smith.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The only person that shut Derrick Henry down last week
was his head.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Coach and his offensive cord.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
There's no way I don't care about the rottation because
we've seen this chat in other sports, in basketball or
in baseball, a pitcher, when you got a bulldog, when
you got a bomb gardener, when you gotta curshall, when
you got a page on Roger Clemings, or a Randy
Johnson on the mound. I don't give a damn out
no pitch count.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I got.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I got Hall of famers out there, y'all get it.
He got a Hall of Fame running back and you're
gonna turn that over. And this is not a knock
on Keith Mitchell, because I think he's phenomenal. But in
that situation, Dack Henry Hey bro eighteen care Oh joe,
he had thirty six to night on.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
A short week.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, yeah, And you mean to tell me you let
him have eighteen and you couldn't give.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Him twenty four, twenty five, twenty six? That hell you say?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, I mean, listen you, you're right, You're right. And
I'm trying. I can't remember the game by memory. But
obviously I don't think it was a quiet one twenty eight.
I don't even know he had one twenty eight last year.
It was a quiet one two eight? Was he gashing him?
The way they was doing was the way he was
doing tonight? He was gashing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He had to remember, like the second carry of the game,
he broke off of what a thirty yard touchdown? Yeah,
and think about it, oh yoe, at eighteen yards and
one hundred and twenty eight. Think about yards per carry?
That is yeah, cut that dadn is seven yards to carry?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It is I'm not sure why they are abandoned. I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Maybe that's a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Eighteen seven five three As a matter of fact, that's
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's seven yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So you know, eighteen times.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Seven, that's a five poop Kevin boo boop.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah. And you know, you know what sometimes happens on
coaches offensively, You overthink, You overthink things, your analyze thing
too much. You think something not working. And obviously your
bell cow was working last week and to me, I
mean to me, it was a quiet one twenty because
I didn't even know it. In order for them to
go away from Derrick Henry, they have to see, well,
you know, what we're trying to do isn't working. Because
for the right for in my right state of mind
(11:55):
as offensive coach, if what we're doing in the running
game is working, then why would I go away from it?
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They didn't go away from it. They said they were
on a rotation. It was Derek Henry had his time,
his his Uh, now it's time for the other running
backs to get into the road. No, no, you don't
do that. Analytics do see. You lose a sense of
the game, you lose a field or the game. You
lose a false of the game. Derrick Henry running, he
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had just gave your touchdown, gave you a ten point lead.
Oh there you down? Know, dare you not down? This series?
There you up?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You know? You know? And and no, And nobody can
override that too. That's the funny part about it. Nobody,
nobody can override that. Maybe maybe eight, maybe a could
say something, you know, but I don't think eight. He
has enough on his plate to worry about, especially in
the last week's game, you know, before before he went out.
I mean, I just, I just I'm you know, Derek
Henriet is quiet. He's not gonna say nothing, you know,
in a situation like that. So, I mean, I mean,
(12:54):
it is what it is. They look goddamn, they look
real good tonight. As far as as far as playoff
implications are, are are they in? They have to do.
Pittsburgh have to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Lose to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh wins, they win the division. Okay,
so yeah, Pittsburgh loses. Now it comes down to the
final game. Of the season. But if Pittsburgh wins to tomorrow,
to Pittsburgh wins the division.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, I understand the division. I mean playoff implications though,
Do they still have a chance to get in?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Uh? The Ravensts. No, I don't think so. Ravens have
a chance to get the playoffs. Yeah, if they win
the division. Yeah yeah. If they have to win the division,
they cannot get into the wild card.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No, that's gonna be tough. That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Because you got the Chargers that are already in and
that's what you call them, got Texans, the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Texans, that's right. Okay, So so they got to hope
for the Steelers to lose. Who are still who the
Steelers got on?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The Browns?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, listen, I know it's the brown but that's
always the tough mat.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Crazy Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
If he go crazy, they got a chance.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He got to he got to hold on, hold on. Wait,
there's a good chance the Browns might win Aaron Rodgers
without DK Metcalf too, ain't he.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Uh, let's see the the Broncos win the f C
West has a chance for the number one seed if
they beat the Chargers next week, or if New England
loses Jacksonville, they could, uh, they could. Jacksonville could win
the win number one seed. If the Patriots lose and
the Broncos lose their final game. No, no, no, they don't.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
No mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If if Jacksonville wins out because Jacksonville beat them head
to head, they would have to get the number one seed. Absolutely.
If Jacksonville wins out and the Broncos lose their final game,
they would have the They will be the same record.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
A f C West.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, so, but Buffalo is already level in the four.
The Houston Texas are having to have a level wins. See,
there's no way for Baltimore to get any more or
most they can get his nine. Yeah, and you already
you already got you already got three teams with a
level wins wins. Yeah, the math and mathing. So with
that being said, O Joe, look, I just think the
thing else and I wouldn't have been disappointed, O Joe,
(15:14):
given his injury history and how limited he was, and
he didn't look like himself Tyler Huntley. Now we've seen
him go other places. O Joe, Miami look like himself.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But in Baltimore, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, in Baltimore he looks very very common.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Maybe it's something in the water, maybe it's the dungeon,
his crabs. But if you watch him play when he's
at quarterback in Baltimore, yeah, watch him play any other
place is night and day.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, different schemes on different scheme, different offenses, and
and you have to you have to be a special quarterback.
You have to elite, an elite quarterback to go in
any system and be able to function and be able
to function. And obviously you saw Tyler hunter was in Miami.
When it was in Miami, I was I was hype,
was out of saying, boy, Tyler Huntley gonna go out
(16:03):
there and go crazy. And I was saying him go
crazy because of what I've seen him do in the
past when he was with the Ravens. But obviously, a
different offenses, different scheme, and this scheme in Baltimore fits
him and shuits his skill set extremely well, which is
why he looked the way he looked at night.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But when you get Dack Henry running the football like that,
so now you can play ashing off it. Zay Flowers
had five targets. He had or catchers, a touchdown, a
great speed out turn, get the ball in the in
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He held onto it. I thought Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, guys that when he threw the ball towards
likely likely caught it. When he threw the ball towards Andrews,
he caught it. When he threw the ball to Flowers,
he caught it, and they did something with it. But
the night belonged to Derreck Henry. When you get thirty
six rush attempts, two hundred and sixteen yards and four touchdowns. Yeah,
and this game should have been over because, oh Joe, dude,
the officials not understand the rules. A defender cannot go
(16:56):
low on a blocker. Yeah, seventy seven. He probably gonna
with him anyway, but to defend the ninety went low
on him.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You can't do that. And then they missed the passing affairs.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The dude had a hot d hawk callar like this
with his right hand, which is the way, and he
batted the ball with.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Him laught hold on, not even that you can't touch
the receiver past five yards. They engaged right away. I
understand he has a right for the ball, but you can't.
You can't use your hands and feel where the receiver
is to be able to make a play on the ball.
You got to play with your eyes and your feet
in your hands.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I agree, so uh, but the Ravens look good tonight,
Dereck Hary Tyler Huntley. Tyler Huntley should GTI a game ball.
The offensive line should get a game ball, and Deck
Henry Damn Show deserves a game ball because when you
run the ball fifty three times for two hundred and
seven yards, four touchdowns, you've done something. And Tyler Huntley
(17:50):
came in and he ran when he needed to run.
He found, he found throwing lanes.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I thought he.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Played extremely well checked and I think you guys agree
with me. He played extremely extremely well. But last week,
and I can't it reiterate this enough. The way Deck
Henry ran the ball tonight makes last week even more egregious.
If I'm Steve Bushatty, I am furious, yes, that John
(18:17):
Harbaugh allowed this to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't care about a rotation. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Who was supposed to be the next man. It's supposed
to be his turn. Bro you do realize your own
life support, You own life support, and you allow something
like this, Well going back, we shouldn't have to go
back at it, you know, going into the game.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
This is where we are. We need to win this game.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The Steelers had already won, so we need to win
this game to keep pace. That way, we go get
beat New England. Beat New England. Excuse me, we go
beat Green Bay. We steal one game back, we beat them,
We win the vision. Yes, that's all you had to do.
It's just it's infuriating to me that that they and
he try to give you. Well, you know, it's his turn,
(19:06):
and you know, so forth and so on, and Derreck
Henry good Derrick Henry Like, Hey, it was you know,
his turn. And I have no problem with that. I
have the utmost trust in anybody that comes in. I
trust the coaches. I get all that. I trusted my
coaches too, But I know, damn well, coach wasn't sending
no backup in when we don't if the fourth quarter
and we had a two minute drive. Unless I get fatigued,
(19:27):
it ain't. He ain't starting no drive. I guarantee you that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But also you have to think about this when it
comes into the fourth quarter, right, and being that Dereck
Henry is a downhill back, you need a dual threat.
You need not only someone that can run the ball
that's a little change of pace, a little faster, a
little speedier, a little quicker, but it can also catch
it out the backfield, could also do those other things
that Dereck Henry doesn't do, especially those situations. So that
(19:51):
might might explain it a little bit. They wanted to
do it. They wanted to be able to do a
little bit more offensively outside of it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We got the lead.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Okay, he can catch you on the back field. How
many pass they throw you the back out of the
backfield again?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He listen, I'm just trying to tell you what Mitchell
is good at. Huh. I'm just telling I'm not saying
he Christian McCaffrey. I'm not saying he that, But I'm
just telling you he provides that offensively outside of what
we're he gonna do.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That is what we needed. Three yards and the cloud
of dust.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's it. Killer clock. Hey, listen, I'm with you. When
you're right, I ain't gonna argue with you.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Hey, the man say, he said, if it ain't a way,
I'll make away. That's what I'm telling Darren Henry. Hey, coach,
it ain't no hole make one. What's smoking? Mama told it.
She gave him a dollar, So girl, get me a
pocket cigarette. Ain't a dollar it enough smoking enough?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So man, Dave Hearry, Hey, he better be player of
the week. Did I win my did I pick with
my prize? Pet because I told you what you call
I'm gonna get no two hundred some yards?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, Domson the first player of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, dogs winning.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He hass sixty two. Herbert was left two thirty something.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, two thirty six. Herbert threw for three thirty six.
He might have needed to thirty six. Justin Herbert, that
was it. That's what he needed. I thought he needed
to have two thirty six. Hold on, what do you
say now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
This some bullgeie.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Ah hell no.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Dack Henry has the most two hundred rush yard games
in NFL history, his seven breaks of tie that he
had with Adrian Peterson and O. J.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Simpson.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Tiki Barber has five, Ladanian Thomason has four, Barry Sanders
Earl Campbell and Jim Brown all has four. Henry officially
passed Tony door Set to move in the tenth all
time in career rush yard list, and just before half,
he moved past Adrian Peterson one twenty for fourth all
time rushing and touchdown. He now has one hundred and
(22:24):
twenty two touchdowns. He's one behind from Tide Marcus Allen
to to break the tie Ladanian Thomas in the second
with one forty five. Emmitt Smith won sixty four. If
you can stay healthy for three four more years, he
might he could possibly.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Catch Yeah, and listen, this is the funny thing about
it is is we will he be to do it?
What team will he be on to be able.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
To carry he come in? He need to come back
to Baltimore next year. I think he's gonna get at
least at least one more year with Baltimore. I don't
think now they're gonna have to make some hard decisions.
They're gonna make some decisions on Marlin Humphrey. They're gonna
make some decisions on Rokwon Smith. They're gonna make They're
gonna try to move some things around. What are they
gonna do? And you know, you hear all these scenarios
that could possibly trade.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Lamar.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But they gotta get that captain under control. They got
to get that under control. Say Flowers, he got twenty
eight million dollars next year, Oh Joe because he made
the pro bow for the second time. So you you
got some issues that you gotta get resolved. But they
got to get past Russias o'hoe. They got to they
got it. They gotta shore. They gotta show up their
(23:31):
cornerback position. It's it's it's it's not up to par,
and you can't. You can't, you can't, you can't win.
It's it's really that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Simple, right Okay, okay, but uh.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
The Rabi were the biggest to do or fast tomorrow
is Steelers lost to the Browns will set up and
want to take all AFC North title game next week,
and the Steelers do not have dk. Look, the one
thing the Steelers can do is get after your quarterback.
Oh yeah, the one thing the Browns can't do is
protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's a recipe made in hell.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good game. No, it's gonna
be it's gonna it's gonna be a good game. You know,
I'm I'm hoping that's the game. I'm gonna be tuned
in watching. I'm sure other people will be watching as well,
because I'm excited, not not for the matchup in general,
not to see the Steelers lose, not even to watch,
you know, sh door, I'm trying to see Miles Garrett
get this goddamn sack record. Yeah, yeah, and listen. I
(24:27):
send him a message too. I say, when you get
that record, I want that jersey you got on when
you get that record. I asked Miles for the jersey.
I want the jersey you wear when you break that record.
I want to sign it for me and and and
that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You better, hey, you better. You better be the Hall
of Fame. You better be Canton, because that jersey they're
gonna be. I guarantee you. They got people that Canton.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Oh no, I asked for it first. Okay, Hey, hold on, Hey,
can't can't get the jersey before.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I do, absolutely my hell.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Any any record breaker, like with Peyton, when Peyton broke
the record most touchdowns in the passing season, I broke
thank he broke Tom's the fifty when he got fifty five.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That went there.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
When he broke Drew Brees yardage that went in the cleat.
They take everything.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Well, I tell you what. I'll tell you what. Listen,
the Cleveland Browns organization, they have plenty jerseys, they have
plenty jers. They can sit in the Hall of Fame
another one.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But there as he take that jersey off, they're gonna
be right there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'll tell you what he done told me I can
have that jersey. And Miles Garrett, if you see this,
if you don't give me that jersey, it's gonna be
consequences because you promised me that jersey. I promise with
your ass.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Because I remember when I broke down to see me
that stuff back. Because when I broke the touchdown record,
they are that much that I guess they didn't know
I was gonna have three touchdowns Monday. They they got
they I think they got. What did they get the
jersey or the shoes? They took something?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I need my shoes back.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh you want to back? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
What's cotton up? Broke my record? Tony broke it and
then Gates broke it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But I want to see the tight end to break
gage record one hundred and sixteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh yeah, him and him and Phillip was cooking off.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They were cooking. He remember he had drew at first.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, drew first.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, they were cooking. Got tonight, man, tonight. I was
very impressed with the Baltimore Ravens offense. I thought Tyler
Hunter did a great job. They didn't ask him to
do much, but he was on target and when he
needed to use his legs because there were some third
downs that he got out of arm's way, got the
first down, set them up on set sometimes on second
down he set them up on thirty short. But tonight
(26:42):
belonged to Derrick Henry. Thirty six carries two hundred and
sixteen yard four touchdowns. Now he's the all time He
has more two hundred yard rush games than any other
player in NFL history, and he's one touchdown behind time
Marcus Allen for third all time in rush touchdowns. Two
to move in third place by himself. Malik Willis O
(27:04):
Joe when you look at him, look, I think George
loves phenomenal Goya pro bo talent. If Malik Willis provides
something that Love doesn't, and that's legs, he can get
gone in a hurry.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well, listen, listen, listen, I'm listen. Jordan Love is not
the slowest in the world, but he's not Malik Willis
when it comes to being a dual threat at the
quarterback position. Now, when it comes to being the thrower
of the ball, I mean, Jeordan Love is the better
player in general. That's what you reasons why he's one
of the one of the highest paid quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
In the league.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
This is what with the with the Packers have that
not very many other teams have. Is when your starting
quarterback goes down, do you have someone that can come
in and keep your head above water and still run
the offense like and you had that tonight and Malik
Willis showed that in the right situation, I'm a competent
starting quarterback in this NFL. Now, the part that I
don't like is where you just said he set himself
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up to be a starter somewhere else. But then if
you go somewhere else and they'll have the supporting cats
that you have in Green may now the owners being
a better quarterback than what you want when you're not
surrounded by uh, not elite talent, but great talent, good talent.
Now you've got to be that much better.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And yeah, the receivers that he has around him really, look,
they're not they're not chased, they're not these upper I
think Christian Watson can be really good if he can
stay healthy. He doesn't only knock is because you can.
He's a speed guy.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So he's he's he's real, he's he's not.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Built thirty and so the least little thing or shoulder
niggas hamstring, he's over he's overcome that knee injury towards
a cl He totally recovered from that, but he's had
some problems staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
When he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He could be an absolute true number one.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
They're there group in general, it's a young group as
a young group, and they play very well off each
other because all of them do things differently. They all
play receiver, but all of them do things differently. Uh
obviously read uh Hicks. I want to see them use
Matthew Golden. They got him so early, he ran a
FOURD too, but they don't use him or put him
in the right positions to make the players for having
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that kind of speed that he has. I'm not sure
what they're doing with him. But I would love to
love to see him be a little bit more intricate
part of the office, especially with the kind of speed
he had. You you're a four two guy, A fourtune
guy is supposed to show up on film, a fourtune guy.
When when you turn on the film even like, well, goddamn,
who the hell is that? And I just don't get
that from him. When you watch Tyreek Hill play, it's like, well, goddamn,
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who the hell is a.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
If you notice with Tyreek, they ran Tybreek on jet sweeps,
they hand the ball off to him, they run smoke screens.
You're not just gonna just run by people unless you're
Randy Moss now, because that's the thing. And what Andy
Reid did for Tyreek is that he used him in
so many different areas and used him so many different
ways that now, yeah, I can unwind.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
With this speed.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But you think about all the smoke screens, think about
all the jets sweeps, think about all the hand the reverse,
all the reverses that they gave him on and so
now he he can really use that for me, because
we really don't know how and when they're gonna use it.
Now now he's able to get past people. They just
use Matthew Golden. They don't use him with anybody but.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
On the deep route, you know. And I don't know
understand why they do that, because Tyreek Hill got himself
to a point to where he was somewhat of a
gadget player. But then he got better at the route cher.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, that's what he was when he first came in.
He was return exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Then all of a sudden he gets confidence, and I
obviously no confidence is the most important thing when you're
playing this goddamn game. All of a sudden, not he's
taking short routes to the house, not he taken the
intermediate route to the house. He taking over and slants
and all that stuff, and then to add to his game.
And at that point, now it's no way to stop
if you don't know what the hell he gonna do.
So I want to see Matthew Golden get better in
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that area where when he comes back to Green Bay
next year, they don't have a choice but to use
him because he can do so much. So, Matthew Golden,
I want to make sure I see you down here
in Miami in July at the wide receiver workshop, which
we just need you for two days. Baby, come on,
I'll let you boy.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Let's work love with Viral this week.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Ojo for re sportedly spending under five thousand dollars to
buy his teammates Nike dunk sneakers for Christmas. Love signed
the two hundred twenty million dollar contract and is getting
paid fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
A year, o Jo? Is it a fair critique of
love for being cheap?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Ah man, I wouldn't call it a fair critique of love.
But sometimes quarterbacks, those that those that make large sums
of money, they give their they get their office alignement,
really really good gifts. You saw what Aaron Rodgers gave
his is Oh yeah, hey listen.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We call him doom buggets. I don't know what they
call now.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, yeah, I saw Patrick.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Somebody got golf clubs, Patrick saw Jack. I mean, you
know some cam Woard gave his Louis Biton stuff and
Nintendo's and this and that. So normally normally, uh, I
think Patrick mahonk uh uh party gave his offensive Lineman
Toyota tundras last year.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He must he must have, he must have what you
call it? Yeah, you must have a sponsor with Toyota. Yeah,
Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know, normally, normally the quarterbacks that they go they
kind of go have it. Patrick Holes somebody, I think
it was Patrick ma Holmes or somebody got got Rolexus.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
For his teams last year. Josh Allen. Yeah, quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Look, you're making that kind of money, and you're probably
making if you're a top flight quarterback. If you're making
forty fifty million dollars, I can feel you're probably making
another ten fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So they're like, you know what, you guys, all the
the MVPs and the praise conatulation, I get you. Keep
me protected. Hey, I'm gonna take care of you. I'm
not going to tell the man how to spend his money.
That's his choice. He did what he felt was right.
But I'm just saying normally and hey, to each his own,
each you owe, I'm not I'm not here to tell
somebody because I remember Joe, I was so happy, my
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my I made the Pro Bowl in ninety two as
an alternate. Yes, ninety three, I went back.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I made it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was, I was, I was, I was a starter,
and I was the first team All Pro. And so
the money that I had, I think I had about
twelve five hundred dollars if I make the Pro Bowl,
and I had another twelve than five hundred dollars if
I made on all Protein. That's twenty five thousand I bought.
I bought all the offensivelignement rolexes. Gary Zimmerman with the
left tackle, he said he didn't want one. John said, naughty,
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I'm good. So I bought four the lineman rolexes because
I was just so happy, because I appreciate it, because
I really believe they blocked harder when they when they
knew the ball was coming to sharpie.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Hold on, timeout, timeout, So you bought full rolexes? Right,
you made You made twenty five thousand, right, first team
Pro and you made the Pro Bowl. Now what kind
of rolexes you was able to get under twenty five
thousand for four?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh show? You got to Oh show? Do you know
how long ago this being?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
How long? What year this was?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
This was ninety three? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So the price of rolexes done went up?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
So that means, hold on, it's the same watch. And
just because it's twenty twenty five because of the name
that's on it. They charging us more because of the
year we end.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So it's protect so it's to get So it's a
vacheron Constantine.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So it's all the watch fire. Yes, yes, and you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
See how they be chipping or something.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh Joe, you think you could slip by a house
a house in nineteen ninety three. You think you can
go by that same house right now for what you
bought forty ninety three.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, right, listen, not I understand what you mean. But
do me a favorite, real quick. Do me a favorite,
real quick.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yes, I think I played.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think, I think I yeah, that's what it was
the day just uh uh uh a Staylor, you know
it was stainless steel right right right right.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Graves you know think you know had these God put down?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
How much one of them costs back then?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
How much back then was probably about I think about
forty five hundred maybe five.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So how much you think of day they cost right now?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Probably ten eighty five hundred, ten thousands.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Okay, that dang bad.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That ain't bad.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Ain'ta Do me a favorite real quick? What time it is?
Eight forty three, eight forty three? You just gave me
the time, right, how much that cost me?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Hey, normally I would tell you say I normally get
smart with your time for you to buy a watch.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Hey, hey, it's free. You know you got an iPhone,
don't you. Yeah, it's telling time, don't it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But a watch of an accessory?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Who an accessory?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I am You can go.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You can go to an a bit barefooted if you wanted to, right, right,
but you buy shoes.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm just I'm just just a nice accessory. You could
go by yourself if they say a plus one. But
you're gonna take Cambodia.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Oh yeah, that's a nice boy. Hey, that's that's the accessory.
Matter of fact, if she on the hip, I don't
even need no watch. Yeah, yes, yes, you looking at it?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
They looking at her anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh yeah, boy, who you telling?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah look at that?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah nigga, this spy boy, boy that boy love for
Campbodia man died. The Texans beat the Chargers, and doing
so they get gifted the Debora Broncos to ALC West.
The text beat the Chargers twenty to sixteen. Houston punched
their ticket to the playoff for the third consecutive year,
which is the most in their young franchise's history. Texans
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still having a shot at claiming the division depends on
whether the Jazz can lose either the next two games.
If the Jazz falls to the Coats or the Titans
Houston beats the Coats in Week eighteen, the Texans will
win the AFC South. I don't see that happening. The
Chargers lost to the Texans clanched the division for the
Broncos for the first time in ten years a team
has won the division other than the Kansas City Chiefs,
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because you know, we won in twenty eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
That was the t Bow won his last year's ye Martin,
and then Peyton came he won it four straight years,
and then Alex Smith got there, and then Alex Smith
and then obviously my homeboy took over from there. Jayden
Higgins and jayl Le Noel became the second rookie doe
in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
In the first is.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Nineteen thirty eight to each score touchdown receptions on forty
plus yards in the same game. Since they strived with
sixteen to twenty eight two forty four two touchdowns, two
very costly picks.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Didn't cost them, but it could have. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
They ran the ball three four times for one hundred
and eighteen yards. Higgins had two catches eighty eight yards
of one to seventy five yard touchdown. Nicole Collins had
three for fifty seven for twenty three big on third down.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Jayaln Noel had three for fifty four.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Justin Herbert had was twenty one of thirty two two
thirty six, one touchdown, one exception.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
He was sacked five times.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Boy, if he was not as athletic and as big
as strong as he was, he probably been should have.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Been sacked about ten times. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Easy.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Quentin Johnson had five for ninety eight. Rondez Gassen dropped
the couple. He had three for thirty two in the
touchdown lab. McConaughey had one for thirty one and that
was it. But CJ's got to be he forced some
balls in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He did.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't know what he was looking at. That first
touchdown was agregious. Why would you throw that?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah? Look, hey, that defense came out fire go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh yeah, listen, the goddamn goddamn Texas Uncle. I thought
I was gonna believe be a blowout, but understanding the
floor of the game, a high game and goals, the
momentums with was with Texas. With the Texans them first
and the first two drives, I think, I think, I
think it was Uh, them had to be blown coverages.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Huh they had to be No it it will look
like it would. I don't know what a safety went.
I would have to go back, but I looked like
the sabody.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Somebody was holding him.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Corners playing outside leverage, and.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know, you know, you know who you vulnerabrad. If
I wouldn't even play outside leverage, you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Got you if you give up the gold ball did.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What That's why I said, you know, if you go
to that post, you dead to the water. So I
I'd rather play head up. So I got a two
way go to be able to make to be able
to be putting myself in a better position to be
able to make a play because you and no man's
land by yourself and the goddamn safety being hell in
the middle of the field wide ass open.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That's what the decordiny to tell you. Son.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
That's on me because oo oo, now I got you
outside leverage, you give up a god ball.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna snatch your ass up.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You come to the sideline, I'm telling you, I put
your ass outside for a reason.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
But but see, uncle, can I tell you something real quick?
This is why if I play defensive back, it's a
thinking man's game. It's a chance match your most I
understand what the defense caused me to do. I understand
what the scheme wants me to do. It wants me
to play outside leverage. And I know the safety is
gonna be hold, gonna be held by something running a
little shorter to get his eyes and get his attention.
I understand the middle of the field gonna be wide open. Yeah,
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what I'm doing, I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and
I'm gonna play the goddamn receive the head up so
I can make a move if you go to the deep,
if you go to the d ball, I can speed turn.
And if you go to the goddamn post, I'm more
than positioned to be able to make a play at
least make a play. But I don't want to be
in in no man's land with goddamn outside leverage. And
he goes to the post and now I gotta play
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catch up to somebody just fasts me. It ain't no,
ain't nowhere, and hell, I'm gonna get to the ball.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Well, I'm hoping what I'm hoping is l yo I played,
because what you're hoping is they don't have a play
call that goes to the post, bing go See, that's
why I'm playing that coverage because I'm not gonna play.
I'm not gonna put my guy in harm's weight having
playing outside leverage. If I think they're gonna run around
to the post, Because if I think they're gonna run aroun.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
To a post, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm gonna call a defense where I got a whole
sainty over playing quarters.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, that way I'm protected in this situation.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
They probably showed something what they normally do and they'll
nobody's probably thrown it.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
They held it and then guess what he.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Breaks It got great protection and it basically ran the
same route to the other.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Side, basically the right. But they listen the goddamn charge.
The spotted them boys fourteen points. I was like, boy,
it's gonna be a blowout. It's finna be It's finna
be a blow out. Then the offense stall, then the
Texas offense stall, and the god damn damn charged with
they were playing good defense, yeah, playing, they're playing good defense,
and obviously with them to of them two interceptions, they
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should have had an opportunity to come back and win
this game.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Also, guess what happened with the Chargers. Do they threw
a pick on the one yard picker?
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Then mister p a t then mister field goal. Yeah,
that was only one for three in the red zone.
You kick field gold, you get your ass kicked. You
kick somebody else thet.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I think if Gason, if Gaston doesn't drop that ball
and it gets kicked off, I think that the score,
that then the score, that this game would be different.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It'll be different.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Maybe you're right, o't Joe? I mean, I think the
thing is we don't know. And and to kick the
Cowboys while they're down, because I can't think of a
better time. Think about Justin Herbert has been sacked fifty times.
He's sacked the third most quarterback in the NFL. He
sacked five times a day he was pressing another Again,
think about it. The Cowboys didn't touch it one time.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
M hm oh.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Also, the Cowboys don't got no goddamn than Neil Hunter.
The goddamn Cowboys don't got Will Anderson.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Either, cut Jason Jarson. They better at rushing the passer.
Now they got rid of Michael You know who I.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Would love to play with. Matter of fact, he's playing
in the wrong era. Voontas Berfect and Shazir Am. I
saying it right, boy, They do not belonging. They belong
back in the eighties, a Berfect in al Shazier. They
belong playing football in the eighties because they played a
chap Hey Vontez Berfeck and al Shazier belonging. They played
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football the way football is supposed to be played before
the rules changed, before the game got watered down in
the in the NFL is handicapped defenses and allowing them
to play ball to where they can have some type
of advantageous competitive edge. Now the hand is tied behind
their back. But I love the way them boys play.
I love the way them boys play. And this is coming.
This is coming from an offensive player, an offensive player
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who you know who really doesn't care, so I appreciate
his style of playing the way they play that god
damn Derek Stingley Junior and that god damn Lassiter boy.
They got, they got the whole, They got the whole
shebang over that defensively, and I think, I think once
they make the playoff they can make a very good
run because their defense is so good. Their defense is
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so good on all three levels, whether it's the back end,
whether it's the front end. That the linebackers are okay,
but where they make they hate is upfront, and they
got damn back in. And if CJ. Stroud can play
complimentary football without turning the ball over, because you can't
have no goddamn two turnovers. Not in the playoffs, that's
not gonna happen because the teams you're playing are gonna
make you pay double for that. They definitely gonna make
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you pay double for that. So outside of that, man,
the game was good today that the Texans pulled it off.
Goddamn the Texans. I mean, they was only three ft
eleven on third down, only three ft eleven on third down,
but hell, they won two turnovers and they still won
the game. And I think they won that game because
the defense defense, defense played really well because all of
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those turnovers they did have the goddamned the charges weren't
able to capitalize on those turnovers, and obviously I think
I think the score line would have been much different
than Gaston hadn't to drop that ball was kicked off.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I would think it just what you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Well, you get you're getting another drink, you know, if it's.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That camp at it? Yeah, hey, hey talking, you just
doing you're doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, you know what, what's I
get to go on? I done took a nap. I
done took a nap today, Uk, I took a nap
day because I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
About to take you what right on? You give me
another ten minutes, I'm gonna take a nap on you.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I got you. This is one of those nice where
we can go for three hours and I'm gonna be good.
I'm ready. I'm ready to talk.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
O yo.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I do believe Houston Texans have a Super Bowl defense.
My concern with pressure. Yeah, when they pressure, he's not
the same guy. C Stroud. Oh okay, look at look
at look at his numbers today when he got pressured.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Look at his numbers against pressure.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
You know, they need to do a better job of
too un because see the shroud is not a dual
threat quarterback, but he does. He does have great pocket presence.
He does know how to move in the pocket to
be able to buy himself time. But when they add pressure,
every time they do add pressure or the pressure is coming,
the goddamn plays are too long. He got to wait
for the goddamn rouph to develop. If you know, based
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on down and distance, when people are gonna blitch shorten
up the route.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Concepts, you keep trying to hit home runs. I don't
know if your offensive line is gonna be able to
hold up. It's not like It's not like CJ got
legs like that. That's not what he is. He is
a pocket passer.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yes, a damn good one at that too, especially if
you give him time. That's one thing about it. Listen,
he don't got no doctor's cot on, but he can
be surgical with that goddamn ball if you get some time.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
The Texans Jalen pretreat with an all time quote from
the locker room today, God is the greatest. The Texans
defense may be second Houston marker selling time in the
Super Bowl since nineteen sixty six. A team has qualified
for the postseason after starting oh and three.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, hey, that's dope. That's dope. That's one thing about it.
I'm not sure what coach told him when they started
owing three, you know, to keep them boys from not folding,
because you know, it can be very demoralizing to go
through training camp, to go through the off season program,
then to start the season and all the work you
put in and you qu out there and you have
a goose egg you owe and three and to be
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able to bounce back from that, boy what you know,
you know what kind of locker room that take.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yes, But you got to give a lot of credit
for Davis Mills because when he went down, Yeah, I
mean when CTD went down, David's Mill kept him afloat.
Remember the same thing Rock Party, when he goes.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Down, Matt Jones, he kept him.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
That's why you need quality depth at that position.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
But that's that's the hard part.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
That's that's the hard part, is being able to find
a quarterback that fits that system, that fits that scheme,
that can keep you above water, your starter once you
start to go down, Boy as hell. You see what
happened with J. J. McCarthy, JJ McCarthy went down. What
young girl looked like?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
That?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
That that that that played the other night for Minnesota?
What what he looked like?
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Good and terrible?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But who you telling? It?
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Wasn't called you look terrible? JJ?
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So I mean, hey, he like they drew it from
Tom Brady till somebody he.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Was he was bad news.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Hey, now listen now they I don't mean to be
I don't mean to be jumping off topic or jumping
to a different team. But Minnesota has some decisions to make.
They got some very important decisions to make. And I
can tell you who's probably going to be the quarterback
of the Minnesota Viking next year. A competent quarterback that
got at least delivered the ball. And you know what
you get when you get him. I guarantee you Flacco
end up in Minnesota next year until until you can
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fix the situation.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I know, Jella be happy to see you.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, who you telling?
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You? See what Flacco did when when Joe went down, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I'm on now now he now he throw for as yards?
Oh yeah, but he's gonna have it, damn there, he
gonna have at least half as many pigs he has touchdown.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
But you gotta think about this too. You think about Minnesota.
What does Minnesota have that the Bengals don't.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Or what a defense come on that?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
But even on that, it's hard to overcome turnovers because
the one thing that helps your defense is that you
don't put him on a short field. Continue you make
somebody drive seventy and eighty yard. Now you keep putting
the team on short fields. Mention that defensive crack. Yeah,
it's gonna break. It's gonna break. So look, I think
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Malik Willis has showed his value and he's gonna get
an opportunity to go somewhere, just like mac Jones. Mac
Jones signed a two year deal. He could have signed
a one year deal. Oho parlaid that, but he said,
you know what, I want to get somewhere stable. I
want to get someone that has an offense that and
I thought mac Jones was perfect for the West Coast
offense when he came out. Basically, Bark Purty is probably
(48:56):
a little bit more athletic. Mac Jones doesn't have the
biggest arms, processes information.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Very very well can get there a.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Party as a tad more athletic because he seemed to
be able to make players on the run. But when
you run the football with McCaffrey, when you can run
it and you can play action off of that, because
that's what the West Coast Systems short passing game is
an extension of the run. But the Texans think, yeah,
I do back to the Texas, O Joe. I think
the Texans can make some noise, but it's all gonna
be contingent on how well there's c J.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Stroud. Because if I'm a team, I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna heed him Up'm gonna dial I'm
gonna dial it up on it on Joe, because I
don't really honestly, I don't really fear anybody but Nico Collins. Now,
I know they're looking to hit the ball over the top.
But if I you know, I might bring in it. I
might because I'm not overly concerned with their run game
on you.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah, I think Jalen Marx is what excuse me, what
he marks is fine, But I'm not. It's not like,
oh my god, they got Derick Henry, they got James Cook,
or they got you know, they got somebody like that.
Jonathan Taylor. I don't fear them like that, right right,
But uh, I'm I'm a heat, I'm will heat. I'm
(50:04):
I'm not gonna lie when he strode up because I
see that seems to cause him a problem.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
And and all that all it comes down to, All
it comes down is stop having those long aft development players.
If you know, yeah, they do based on down and
based on down the distance you know that pressure is coming.
You don't watch film. You got listen. You got seventeen
weeks worth of film to know what teams are gonna
(50:31):
do to you. You understand what they do when they're
gonna bring pressure. Why they're bringing pressure because the players
you're running it taken too long to developed established the run.
And when you do throw the ball, hell, goddamn quick game.
Get the ball out of CJ's hands, Allow him to
get that rhythm, Let him catch that rhythm, get the run.
Game boom. Okay, now we can go deep. Now we
can do something else. Now we can we could play
(50:52):
a little bit with the offense. It's all about creativity.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Oto p K confirmed that Max Cropping left the building
after he was told he would not play in the
final two games of the season. He said, I like
to get out of here, so I said, get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
He took off. It's exactly what you would think he
would do.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
He should and I agree with him one thousand percent
on how he responded. According to Adam Schefter, Max Crosby
is expected in the knee surgery and the Raiders are
placing him on the injury reserve.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Well funny today.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Earlier today, Max Crosby was posting a video on IG
He's playing basketball with his daughter and jumping on the trampoline,
sending a clear message to the Raiders. Crosby it's ticked
after being placed on IR because if you look at it,
over the last several years, no defensive lineman has played
more snaps than Max Crosby. Clearly he wanted to continue that,
O Joe. He's like, Hell, I've been playing with this
(51:42):
bad ass me for the longest and now all of
a sudden, the last two games, y'all don't want me
to play.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But anyway, Ojo, what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Hey? I think it's something else. Honestly, I think it's
something else. Why would you shut him down? Since when?
Since when does a team of the doctors override a
player that says I'm able to play. I think it's
something that I think it's something that's that we don't
know about. It might be in sentences. Huh, it might
be something like that, because you know, you know, you've
been around long enough to know team play games like this. Okay,
(52:10):
if he if he, if he gets to a certain
number of snaps, you know what, we're gonna play with him.
We're not gonna let him get it. We don't want
to hit hit the dollars. I could be wrong. I
could be wrong, but there's no reason. What kind of
video he say he made he.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Was on the ig playing basketball with his door and
jumping on the trampoline.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
That that's that's a young fella that can still play
the game and he still wants to play. We talk
about Mac Crosby, we ain't talk about no just know anybody, true,
We ain't talk about no anybody. Mac Crobbs can have
a god damn broken leg. H you know what he
gonna be on the field. That's the type of player
he is. So why would you shut him down knowing
(52:49):
what you got?
Speaker 1 (52:51):
It might be, it might be in sentence, but all
I know is this, if I got playing the guy,
thirty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I ain't putting on centers in the contract.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Whatever you do, go to the Pro Bowl, lead the
team in sack, lead the league in sacks, tackle for losses,
all Pro for thirty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Shouldn't you do that?
Speaker 3 (53:06):
On yo?
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, I mean you thinking to ask your question. Chase
makes forty and a half million dollars? Do you think
I should put incentives in this contract?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Absolutely, not exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It might be a situation on yo, cowboys got a
couple extra picks.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Oh hold on, he hey that look of talking. Now,
go ahead, take your time. Hey, hold on, take take
your time. Not go ahead.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
I'm about a make us an offer. You gotta you got, Hey,
I wanna need the first, a first and a third
this year and maybe a second next year.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Hey hey, oh could you Mac and Crosby? Would that
star on his helmet? Oh? That's nasty work right there?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
To it over.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
I love his energy, I love his motor, I love
his passion for the game. I know exactly if I
never look here on the forty six man, this gonna
be active that day. I've never going to Max Crosben,
ask him, is he ready because I already know the answer. Absolutely,
I need me forty five Max Crosby's yes. Now that's
a worry about whether or not that he's ready to play.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Let me tell you something. If you have forty forty five,
no matter of fact, have make it fifty three, you
have fifty three Mac Crosby with that kind of mentality
at their respective positions, you might as well bring the
Lombardi Trophy in early. You might as well bringing in early.
And when I think about the Las Vegas Raiders, Max
Crosby is the essence of what they represent. Oh yeah,
(54:33):
he absolutely being a Raider is he is their identity.
When you think of the Raiders, the first thing you
think of is Max Crosby. Yes, time, that position is
hell for an offensive player. Yes, when you think about it,
the face of a team, the franchise, that means it's
(54:55):
a defensive player.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Come on, now, for those for the defensive players.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
If you go back in study the Raiders and you
look at John Mattuzak and you look at the Stork,
and you look at Otis Sis Drump, and you look
at Lester and you look at their defense players back then,
a big Ben date not.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Them yeah, they they own the show back then.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
His Mark Davis' father, Am would have loved Max Crosby.
Oh yeah, absolutely, he would have loved Matt Crosby because
he is the quintessential.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
L a Oakland Raider.
Speaker 3 (55:34):
Mm hmm, hey, I guarantee you. I mean, Chad, I
know y'all got your your your ideas and and and
you see somebody talking about, oh, they probably tanking. That's
why they're not letting him play. Tanking ain't got nothing
to do with that. The tank that I mean, the
Titanic tank. The Titanic already saw it's already saying, yeah,
they at the bottom of the sea. So that has
(55:55):
nothing to do with it. I'm telling you it got
to be Why would you shut him down? Now? Brock
rock Bowles is hurt. He's hurt a difference, He's hurt.
Max is willing and able and wants to play, but
they don't want him to play. Boy. That's clear's day.
Especially if you played the game, you already know what
(56:15):
time it is.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
This thing is turned. This thing is turned from a
search and rescue to just the search. Ain't no rescue,
ain't no rescue. Oh Joe, you at the beginning with
something happens a ship crash, you'll play it's search and rescue.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
After a couple of days. Anytime you have.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
A natural disaster, they talking about search and rescue. Hey,
we already know now we just searching. Ain't no more
rescuing it.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
But I think Max Crobby is probably you know, a
one in the three in a second in twenty seven
because I think the thing is I mean, look, I
know he loves being a raider because, like I said,
he's the quintessential raider. I be Redhead with flat Pirate.
He's perfect. You can't get a more perfect raider that
(57:01):
Max Crosby. But I think deep down he really wants
to win. And I know you want to win in
your original inhabitants. You want to win for the team
that drafted you, that believed in you. Yeah, Sometimes don't
you have to go, You have to go elsewhere to
to fulfill that prophecy and to fulfill that fantasy, that
dream or whatever you whatever you envision happened.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Sometimes you gotta you just gotta leave oo and that
that's unfortunate. And most of the time, some of the
great players, they are staples in those organizations, not just
Max Crosby. You think downing in Cleveland, Miles Garrett, Yeah,
Staple in an organization.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
He definitely going nowhere that you wanted four first rouding.
I mean somebody was offering four first riders for Joe Burrow.
Somebody gonna offer at least three for him.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, I mean that that's crazy. But they will never
They would never get an opportunity to win or be
on the team and compete or have a chance that
competing for a little party. But you never know what
all have doll season holes on. You never know.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Oh yeah, I think we're gonna see some willing I
think when I think, I think, oh Joe, We're gonna
see some willing and dealing. And I think we're gonna
see some people move that we probably didn't think would move.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Probably that's normally how this thing.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Works, that it normally works what you when you least expect,
like damn they released him, damn they trained him.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, but you think about it, right, And I think
people still don't understand when you have these beat reporters,
or you have analysts, or you have pundits that know
inside information that nobody else would know except people inside
those buildings. Right, that's how it starts. That's that's the
start to the forest fire. That's the start to the
forest fire.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Right there. You know who on the phone with him
right now?
Speaker 3 (58:49):
You don't, I don't. I don't they understand. They say, oh,
this person they always hated, Oh this person doesn't work
for the team specifically. They just talking out. No, they're
never talking out. They asks the information is coming from somewhere.
Especially as reporters, your credibility is all you have to
go off of, So you're not gonna say anything just
(59:10):
to be saying it, just to create a story. The
information is coming from somewhere, and they always do. They
always do this, back to even when I was playing,
even before I was playing. Hell, they did it to me.
Wait a minute, how the hell ain't know about that?
And nobody knew about that situation except the people in
this building.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
If I'm the Eagles, I'm on the phone. If I'm
the Buffalo Bills, I'm on the phone. If I'm the
Dallas Cowboys, I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Guess it's gonna be an interesting offseason.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
If any team that you say, we know what the
Indianapolis coach I don't know. You don't have anything because
you gave up your two first rounds, so you're out
of the equation.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
But I'm on the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I am, I am, I'm on the phone, Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
You can't get him. They're not they're not gonna trade
it within the division.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I don't think Green Bay can get him because they
just played Michael. I don't know if you play forty million,
forty plus million for a linebacker and then give another
thirty four million, I don't I don't see that happening,
plus or fifty plus million dollars for your quarterback. I
don't see that happening. With that being said. If I'm Buffalo,
if I'm Philly, if I'm New England, Oh I'm on
(01:00:34):
the phone. Oh yeah, I'm Philly. I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Don't Joe, Yeah, got to be hell. Well, I don't
know if we can afford him.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
But I was going to say, all they can do
is say no, you see the fine girl at the club, man,
I should go talk to her. All she can do
is say I got a boyfriend. I'm not interested. But
what if you say, hey, hey, how you doing. Can
I have your number?
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah? You have my number, you have my I G
whatever they do now? Oh ja yeah, I guess they
trade Instagram? Now yeah? Is that is that? Is that
the new thing?
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
But you ask me, boy, I'm down there fifty seven, man,
I don't know. Yeah, fifty eight okay, okay, yeah, you
know I'm them days old for me. Boy, I ain't got,
I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I'm trying to think where he could be because I
think I'm not trying to go to another sorry team.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I'm going to where I can try to win. Buffalo, Philly,
New England, Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Mmm, I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, we can use some help. Why we can We
can show you some help. You know. We got we
got we got one. We got one solid on the
back end. No DJ Turner, that's that boy. We get
somebody you know up there on that line. Now we
we we're gonna be all right. We get a nice
little in.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Crows had been on the injury reports this week twelve,
missing practice each week since then his knee issue. Did
not practice, but Crosby has played every game Las Vegas
plays the Giants in the game that couldn't decide who
gets the number one pick In twenty twenty six. If
I'm New England, I look, oh T I would love
I love to keep Max Crosby. But I can finish
(01:02:21):
the last place without him. Let me get try to
build this thing. Let me let me try to get
this thing. There's a chance that there's a chance I
can get the number one overall pick. Somebody's gonna give
me a number one pick this year, I get a third.
I get a third this year and a second next year.
I can really start to build my team. Arizona might
be interested. Do you swap Kyler Murray and a first
(01:02:43):
round pick Caler Murray the first round pick for Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Now you're just the man. You just said, the man
want to win.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Look, I'm just throwing out scenarios, all things being equal, Right, Philly, Buffalo,
New England.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Let's leave it there, Let's let's let's start again. Yeah,
what about Baltimore. Hey, all the other scenarios just put
him right back in the same situation.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
What about Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Hey, listen, I
can see matc Crosby play like a raven. Make make
make it make sense.
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