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As I mentioned earlier, the Chargers defeated the Eagles by
the score of twenty two to nineteen. In overtime, it
looked like the Eagles were going down to win or
even tie the game. Win touched tip field gold and
then we play on. Then the next score wins. Instead,
Jalen Hurts throw into heavy traffic. The ball was deflected
by Tony Jefferson. That's fourth interceptions for interceptions by Hurts,
(05:12):
and he had another fumble. Turned the ball over twice
on one play. Oh jo Yeah, a new career high
for interceptions in the game. Now for all you guys
talking about they need to let Jalen Hurst throw more.
Let Jalen Hurst throw more. Who exhibit eighty.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Eight go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I was gonna say, obviously I didn't. Most of the time,
you think about Jalen and his decision making with the ball,
even though he doesn't throw the ball much, he owe
and protects the ball. I think before this game started
on the season, I think he maybe had three, maybe
four interceptions up to this point in the in the season,
and to have a game like tonight where his decision
making wasn't what it usually is, especially at the end
(05:53):
of the game. Understanding the circumstances, the flat riders right there,
the flat riders right there, make the guy come up
make a goddamn tackle instead of trying.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
To thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Hold on, instead of trying to squeeze a corner route
which you running, which they running the corner route to
they goddamned short side of the field. So chances are
that's not gonna be over. You can play both of them.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He can play so oh jo you to your point,
because he's in between Goddard and the route. You don't
have space. You need space because where you're going. You
can't run a twenty yard out route because you're gonna
be out of.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The damn n zone.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
God, it goes up five yards and he goes up
seven yards. The guys in between, he can literally play
proles that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's obviously if you're gonna run that concept, if you're
gonna run that route, that combination concept, you gotta run
that to the wire side. You got to run to
the wire side. Why run something like that in that
situation to the short side of the field. It makes
no sense to me. But in that situation, if you
do run it, jam has to know boom as soon
as that corner if soon the corner drops off just
a little bit, trying to play both, trying to play
(06:57):
in between. Just take what's in front of you right now,
let him, let him come up and make the tackle.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You live to see another down, o Joe.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Even if you run that to the short side of
the field, it needs you need to have distance. You
got to have separation, be Gonda, because he knows where
is number two.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's Dunson. I think that's Dodson right.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, where is he going? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He can only run so far with hell, he'll be
in Compton, which to be out of bounds, so no touchdown.
So he knows that, so now I can play. I
can sol play it because if you throw it the garden,
I'm gonna come up. It's only a three yard game.
I'm hoping you throw it the garden so I can tap.
But guess what, since you didn't I get my hand
up in the ball? Care he played off of the night.
(07:45):
There's nowhere around it. One of those picks wasn't his.
What's it called h Brown? Aj Aj so that he
saw that linebacker, He saw that linebacker. That's the one
you got. That's the one you gotta you gotta protect. Yeah,
he's you see the guy. You know there's a linebacker coming.
You gotta protect the guy. That's where you throw it
(08:07):
at his waist. That's why you get him down and
allow him to protect himself. Uh Aj knows that he
is coming coming. He's got to make that catch. You
gotta make a play. You can't popping up because if
you're popping up the guy this trailer, you'll.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Get a pick every time.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's as simple as that. But Aj knows he's gotta
got he's gotta make that play. But then he hit
on his zone. He hit the d tackle in the
damn chest and then the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Colored behind hold on, even listen that zone blessing that
d tackle pop out instead of rushing. That's hard to see.
That's hard to see for a quarter for question, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
The guy that he was trying to throw it to
was behind the guy that he hit in the chat.
How is that hard to see?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, No, I'm just saying, you know, that's why it's
call his zone. Listen, they had that that d tackle
pop out like that because you're not expecting as a quarterback,
you already what's the predetermined? You already predetermined? What wanted
you to say that? Yeah, Okay, that's all.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I just wanted him to say that, Chet, right, right,
he had already made his mind up where he was
going with the right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I just want him to say that, Chet, Yeah, you're
absolutely right. So here's the thing, Oyo, you make a
terrible reed. You hit the guy in the chests, the
guy comes from behind him scripts him of the football. Okay,
the ball pops out, you get it it instead of
falling on the ground because guess what, Joe senses are changing.
Possession is your ball and his first down going down exactly.
(09:27):
Now you try to be hero, Jayalen want to be
a hero because we're gonna talk about it on sports
and were gonna talk about it tonight. If it gets
that ball up, it gets ten yards, get fifteen yards.
So instead of doing the wire sting, what did he
try to do? O?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yoe? It came on.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Guess what happened on Joe? Ball out again?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You fumble again? Yeah? Yeah, it was a weird It
was a weird game tonight. It was a weird game
tonight with so many fumbles, whether it was special teams,
whether or you know, both offenses. It was eight turnovers
in the game to night. I'm not sure what the
what the record is for the most turnovers in the game,
but this has to be up there with it. This
has to be up there with it. And I really
thought the defense would have saved the day for them,
(10:04):
and obviously they would have been at San Diego got
a field goal in the first overtime, so I thought, hell,
e's gonna go down to score you know what you need.
I was actually hoping they were gonna score, you know,
for their for for their sake and and with with
the what they played. But unfortunately the decision making on
on on Jalen, you know, at the end of the game,
it kind of it kind of hurt. And another thing,
(10:26):
one of the one of the best throws, one of
the one of the throws that.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That you talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That third and fifteen when he let that ball go
right off the play exactly about Boy, that was beautiful. Boy,
that was That's what we call anticipating and letting it
go and trusting your receiver. That was beautiful right there.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Boy, that was our show. That's what they asked him
to do.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's what he doesn't do well enough when it's when
it's one on one. Yeah, but see the really good
one you have to throw in the windows. You have
to trust your skill set while also trusting your receiver
to be where he's gonna be. But you really gotta
trust yourself. You really have to trust yourself. Yeah, hey,
(11:16):
oh so Ojo when you ran that when you ran
that bang that bang a hey on that seventh step
or that glass rock, we called it, you call it
a bang a you called it a glance. That seventh
step in the outside foot hit when I do this
by ball. That ball should be right there. I mean,
I don't care what that safety does. I don't care.
(11:36):
All I know is that corner is on my outside.
That ball gonna be there. And the quarterback job is
to protect me, is to protect the throat. Don't put
it back here and make me do this and so
he can knock it down. He put it right there,
put it right there in the safety. Come I can
protect myself.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Listen, and don't let the safety take a goddamn bad angle.
And I want to keep that thing about the backside
and dip on it, come out the backside. I got,
I got away with I got. I got away with it.
One time. I never forget. We were playing buff the
Buffalo Bills at home. Nate Clemens, Nate Clemton was guarding me.
I'm not sure what that safety was thinking about. But
(12:12):
when I took that seventh step, or like maybe my
fifth step, I was peaking at the safety and oh
he was in the wrong place. He was in the
wrong place. He had his feet he had his feet
set instead of getting back in that pedal. He wasn't. No,
you already spread man. I hugged that. I hugged that
(12:32):
base and went like a damn near you turn, hugged
that bach and camp bick down here and got up
out the back door. Her scold, Hi, we ain't got
no eagle fans to night, o't yo, but they're not
in here?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh no, because you know they normally whoa, whoa, whoa.
What you got to say now, O Joe? What y'all
got to fake out by the eagles? Eagle fans clime on,
we need you get the chat up. Well, how many
we got in the chat right now? Come on, eagle fans.
I know y'all loop.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They might be sleep on. It's late.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what a bird that?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh, Joe?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Normally normally eagles fly, eagles fly. All you see is
eagles on everybody chat, eagles across the board.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh there you go, there one there one there, Hey,
they in there.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But if you know, O Joe, one of the wings
broke the eagle like this here he got one wing
the other one to his side. So we got to
get him to a bet Any baths at the house,
any bets eagle has landed, crash landed.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is a good thing about it, though. The running game.
The running game got going got a little bit. Sakon
had one hundred and some change at night.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Carries.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, they got going. Let me see, let me see
what else. Hell, they still got a chance. Hu, they
still got a chance. They have a chance. They still
have a chance to win the division. They have to play,
They have to play.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They got the Commanders twice, they got the giants and
who else they got?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The commanders is winnable. The Commanders is winnable. James Daniels
is out for the season.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Oh, they got raiders, commanders, wills, commanders.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Listen. That's that's that's the toughest one right there. Where
they playing the Bills at they're playing. They matter, they
can play on the movie. You ain't got no faith
in them.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, they ain't got no faith in the in the
in themselves. We've seen this movie before, remember a couple
of years ago. They got off to that great start
and then they crash landed. Yes, eagle has the Eagle
has crashed?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes, we saw that. Doesn't it seem doesn't it feel
the same the exact same way. Matter of fact, this
was this was the year before the Super Bowl run
Actually yep, yeah yeah, Suer Bowl, Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
uh Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The Eagles defense played extremely well. They sat justin Herbert
seven times. Had he not been as mobile and athletic
as he is, they probably would have got him ten
or eleven times.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, way more than that. Absolutely. But look, they gotta
figure this thing out. They really do.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean you look at Hunt had two and a
half sacks, Bond had a half a sack, Byron Young
had a sack of the half, ni Kobe Dean had
a sack.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Jordan Davis had a sack of the half. I mean,
they were they was only yeah and you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Know something, let me let me but Jayleen Hurst two
on on two of those interceptions, one was a j
Brown's fault. One the one that Deontay Deontay Jackson or
dante Yte Johnson. That that that wasn't on Jayla Hurst.
That was on Smitty. That's Smitty Smitty. Oh yeah. When
(15:36):
you slipped out, yeah yeah, yeah, you you got you
gotta come. You gotta come out that ball. You gotta come,
you gotta come out that ball and you can't stop.
You gotta come back to it. That that that that
that was a slip.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, And normally when you slip, when you try to
plan on your inside foot and you try to roll
in that foot get out from under you. Yeah, instead
of instead of dropping, oh joe, instead of dropping you wait,
putting that weight on new quads for me that they're small.
They ain't the whole They small, smitty. But you got
to get back down here because if you roll out
(16:07):
that inside foot, it's gonna get out from under you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And he's throwing it on anticipation, and this is what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Uh, but it's unfortunate. I meant, have you ever seen
a turnovers? Two turnovers on one play by guy?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Hold on, a long time ago, the New Orlean Saints
was playing. I think the Redskins. Remember somebody fumber the
ball or somebody fumber the ball and then Robert meacham
I think it was Robert Meatham. The Saints had the ball.
It was an interception that roer but hold on the
ball from he.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No, but the same guy did it though, I know
the player you're talking about. He threw a pick, the
guy fumble, Robert meach took it from him, went back
the other way with it. Yeah, I'm talking about the
same guy. He throws a pit and no, no, no,
I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I've never seen it either, and I've seen some some wacky, wacky,
wacky wacky plays Outlook, the ball bounces funny, and you
see some stuff that you love, you normally wouldn't see.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Who is that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think Jacksonville Houston playing Houston and you talked to
bat it down. He basked the ball down, O Joe.
But he bashed it right to a Houston Texan. I
mean to a Jacksonville Jaguar who walks in the end
zone on the Hell Mary, yeah, cause you knock it down,
knock it down? Oh damn. He right there, knocked it
down right in his arm and he walked right into
the end zone. We see Jacksonville run all of Who
(17:34):
was that Jacksonville, New Orleans that runs all over the field.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
They ran a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Lateral, oh like forty times. Score they scored, and then
the guy come on and mixed the pat But yeah, yeah,
I mean I think I saw something. They said it
the first time since seventy eight, so I don't know,
(18:02):
but it's it's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot
of people have seen that play because the NFL wasn't
covered like it is now and a lot of people
wasn't born in seventy eight, so somebody might have saw it,
but I have never seen it. And I've seen a
lot of wacky things because I've been around since sixty eight,
been watching football since seventy seth.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The first game I probably remember is that we went
over to my great grandmother's house on a Monday night
to watch OJ for real, Yeah, to watch OJ. OJ
then was playing on a a Monday night, and we
wanted to see, wanted to see my grandfather wanted to
see OJ. And so but look this game, really the
(18:43):
pressure is starting to mount on the Eagles because they
had they got up to this great star.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh Joe, they were they were four or five games clear.
Oh yeah, everybody, they messing losing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They mess right to lose another game, and the cop
hold on how many games they've got to win? They've
got to win in the Cowboys are what five and what?
The Cowboys are six, six and one, So they've got.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
To win three of the next five. Yeah, yeah, three
to the next five.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, charging up for the Raiders, they're gonna win beat
the Raiders. So yeah, they both teams got four games,
so they're gonna have to the Cowboys could only most
of the Cowboys can win. It's ten, right, they could
be ten six and one. Raiders win up Raiders. The
(19:35):
Eagles win three of their last four, they get the eleven.
Eleven is more than ten. It'd be very interesting to
see him if they go two and two. Yeah, because
now the Cowboys win, because the Cowboys is ten and
six one, and y'all a be.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Ten and seven.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Mm hmm, damn, nah, we be talking about no man,
unk ain't no Eagle fan. No, don't y'all would hear that?
Don't worry about what I'm a fan of. As a
matter of fact, I ain't a fan of nothing. I'm
sential heating and cooling.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's what I am.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
God, I ain't no fan. Now, don't be talking about
now all of a sudden. I ain't no fan. Y'all
don't have no problem when I get on O Yo, Bengals,
y'all don't have no problem when I get on these
other teams. Now, y'all want to now see why they
said cry Eagles cry?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now? I see why you cry Eagles cry?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Now because when I'm on o yoe bad Ah was
killing oyo when I get on all these other teams. Oh, y'all,
y'all key keep kidding bad up man up, went in up,
went in up with on one tonight. Now oh whoa
whoa now, unp don't must with the Eagles up, mess
with everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Y'all know what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Y'all have no problem when I went on when I
went in on the Ravens yesterday and went on on, boy,
y'all a key keick kidding.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I saw all y'all retweeting it. So how much faith?
How much faith you having the in the Eagles the
rest of the season scale of one to ten, honestly,
O yo, yeah? Five? Oh so you you on the
fence five? Okay, okay, okay, because.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They still haven't figured defensive they're fine. Yeah, but see
here's the problem. What happens when your offense puts you
in harm's way? You see, the defense can ball out
and the offense don't put him in harm's way. Okay,
But what happens when you put me on a short field?
You put me on a short field, God walks out
there and I don't get another yard. I got a
field goal, right, See, that's the problem that you run into.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And plus oh yo, look we look at the commander
and we said, well the commanders, but that's a division game.
You know how division games are. It don't matter. And
misery loves company. What Washington going after the last game
of the season, trying to guess what I'm taking you
with me? You got ice cream and I ain't got none.
I'm gonn knock you about your We both ain't got none. Hey,
(22:06):
but I just said it was a good time. But nah, Look,
the defense is outstanding. Their defense is gonna keep them
in a lot of games, playing really well. I mean,
think about it, Old Joey took overtime to get to
twenty two, took over time to get to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
As a matter of fact, that they took the last
drive to get the nineteen. Yeah, and so that's how.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well the Eagles defense is still playing. They had a
quarterback Justin Herbert had one hundred and thirty nine yards passing.
Now he give up one hundred and sixty something offty
nine yards Russian. But a couple of those red runs
came in overtime. Oh y'all, when the first playlf overtime,
Herbert kept them all. Remember that he picked up like,
(22:47):
what thirteen yards on that one, So some of that,
some of that came in overtime. When you look at
this and you see twelve or twenty six, we held
him under way under we have I mean that little
like in the mid forties, twelve or twenty six, I
don't know at the top of my head for one
hundred and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Ojo, Yeah, absolutely, and I can live with that. Listen,
hold on another tall tail on. How well did the
Eagles defense play? Hell, forget playing tonight, how well they
played all season long? Correct? Your had god damn five turnovers.
Five turnovers and you lose by huh and you lose
by three? Man, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Five turnovers and you lose by three, Oh Joe, Let's
just say, for the sake of argument, oh Joe, we
have three.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What if we have two?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Let's just say we have two turnovers.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You win this game easily. And that's the problem that
you have.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Because it doesn't matter how well a particular unit plays,
especially your offense, is your defense plays. If your offense
turns the ball over and puts them on the harms,
in harm's way. So let's just say, like I said,
just say, for the sake of argument, Oho, we turned
the ball over and we don't allow them to get
a first down on the field of kicks the field goal. Yeah,
that's three points. That's three points that that our offense
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gave up because we didn't allow first down.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We did allow them. The game of yard is just tough.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Uh. I mean aj had thirteen targets, six catches. Dallas
Goda had ten targets, eight catches. Uh, she made have
had eight targets, four catches.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
You know, you know what I don't want to happen,
even though they had a game like tonight. I don't
want Jayden to get gun shy. Don't get gun shy.
Keep going, keep throwing that thing.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Keeping but he already gun shot. That's why you're throwing
the tight windows.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But listen, but listen what I saw on that third
and fifteen when he thread that goddamn needle and he
made that anticipator anticipatory throw. Yes, he can do that
all the time. He can do it if you can
do it right there in that moment where the game
is on the goddamn line, The game is on the
line you have, you need that play. If you could
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do it, then you could do it consistently.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
How many half court shots can you make? How many
half court shots can you make? So if I go
out there and I give you and you first try,
you make it. And so what you're gonna say, You
know what, I made it there? I can make it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You believe that. I mean, that's something that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Of an exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
O Yo.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Think about what you said in that moment, right when
you throw Caution to the wind and you feel him,
I ain't got nothing to lose. Now, it was that
moment in the ball game that he had to do
that in the first quarter. He's gonna be a little
more tentative. He knows if I don't get this, Oh Joe,
(25:39):
it's fourth and something.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mm hm. He ain't had no he he ain't had
no choice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But I mean, that was That's as good as throw
as we've seen Jalen Hurts make this year.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hold On, that was the best. That was the that
was the best throw.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
As you said, given the circumstances, thirty fifteen over time,
back against the wall, we're down three. We don't want
to be fourth and fifteen. Yeah, at worst. I mean, look,
if he takes a fire to throw, give me something.
I don't want to be fourth and fifteen. Let's just
say if I'm fourth and five, I can live with that.
(26:14):
But he got the whole shamag. I thought, for a second,
I'm like, she smitt, it might come out the back side.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I thought he was. I thought it might come out
the backside. Listen, all the tickets for that safety to
take the wrong angle, take your wrong angle is curtains.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, look they got their work cut out for. The
Chargers had to win this game. The Chargers don't win
this game. It's basically it's basically curtains for them because
I don't think they can do enough what they could have.
Because it's four games left, they'd have been eight and
for the Broncos or eleven and two. They played the
Broncos the last game of the season, so the Broncos
theoretically could play them and the Chargers would win the
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tie breaker if they both finished at twelve wins on
Joe because they would have swept swept the series, so
they owned the tiebreaker right now. The Broncos on the
tiebreaker over the Patriots because they beat the Raiders, and
the Raiders beat the beat the Pats at the beginning
of the season. So this thing is not over yet.
It's a long ways from being over. But the Eagles
really got their work. They really dug themselves a hole
(27:15):
with this one joke. And the Cowboys like, damn, just
when we every time, every time we try to step
in front of the train, equally you pull us back
off the tracks. We see the train coming, were right there,
Let let the train go and run over. He can say, nah,
not just yet, and pull us off the track. But uh,
(27:39):
who did the who did the Chargers play next?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Who they got? Who they got?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They got the Chiefs, They got the Texans chiefs, Oh,
they got the Chiefs. You got the Cowboys, they got
the Texans. And they got the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, and you know the Eagles. The Eagles got selling sacks.
You know the Broncos defense chomping at the bed.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
They're definitely coming.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And that's in dev That game is in Denver.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I justin, justin Herban needs to take care of the
left hand too.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Hard, because it's because the thing is, you do everything
you can knock the fall down on it. It's and
it's hard, and it's hard. It's hard not to it's
hard to protect the ball. It's hard to do this
because hey, you saw them guys swept swiping at it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Report he got he got a hurt ankle anytime, anytime
they run to the right and watching them hand off
with the right hand, Hey, that looked funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, or the back hand hand off. But
the look, I think this is what the NFL wanted.
That's why everybody have to play a division game the
last game of the season, because normally, what were guys doing,
O joe, Guys were sitting, guys out.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Ain't nobody playing out? H nah, bro, you got to
play now.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You don't have a choice. Ain't nobody got no division.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You look at the af you look at the NFC West,
the forty nine Ers, the Rams, and you got who
else in Seattle. That thing coming down, that thing coming
down to the last month, the last game, last game. Yep,
that's what you want. You look at the situation with
the nf af C North. You got the Steelers, you
(29:37):
got the Ravens, and the Bengals. Say hey, we ain't
done yet. No Hey, I'm glad. You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You know they're done.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But I'm saying no, you said you said exactly. You
said exactly how you feel. You said.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
AFC South with the Houston Texans and Jaggs. Yeah, you
see they Philip Rivers in forty four year old Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on. Now I'm in impeccable shape. On if Philip
Rivers could come back and play, I mean, the Bengals
should go and give me a shot.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
O Joe, y'all play totally different position, and Philip Rivers
has never never relied on that little system. You see
Philip Rivers up close. He ain't got much legs. He
got ten kids, he ain't got much legs left. Oh Joe,
damn he got grandkids?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah damn, yeah, yeah, Hey, I got grand kid.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But hell I'm fifty seven. Yeah, ain't had no grandkids
in forty four.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Hey, I got grandkids. I got a grand child, do you?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Damn yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
For the game one week at the undergoing surgery to
repair a fraction.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
On the non throwing hand, Herbert led his team in
Russian and had put up to five yards total. He
rushed for sixty six yards Oh Joe on ten carries.
He gained twenty of that on the game time drive
late in the fourth quarter. I mean these games, I
mean the days of it. It's guys are mobile now, guys,
(31:14):
I mean you look at that division. What Mahons got legs,
bo Nicks definitely got legs, Herbert got legs. I mean, guys,
the days of Oh Joe used to be. You know,
you have one or two guys that was mobile, and
if you were mobile, that was that was a strike
against you. Yeah, they downgraded you.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We were mobile. Now you got the habit. Yeah, and yeah,
the game is evolved. It's not. It's not. It's not
like the same way we're quarterbacks were statues back there
and you were. You were for you know, a prototypical
drop back passing quarterback. Yeah, that that that is. That
is not what it is today. But if you are that,
then you have to make up for that and be
(31:53):
special in so many other areas, yes, making for your
lack of production with your legs.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
You right about that?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh Yoe?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You ain't you know what I can't I when you right,
you ain't wrong? Oko, We got some good news.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Oh whoa wait, wait wait wait, let me get comfortable,
Let me get comfortable. Oh let me take man my
shirt so tight? Hold on, okay, okay, go ahead, get
it to me.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We got a great news. The good news is our
awards came in. The bad news is they sent me
your awards.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Come on, man, hey, listen, we're.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not come don't come on, man, come on here, come on, man,
come on, don't come on man.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now it's gonna be. It's gonna be twenty twenty. Listen,
I just listen. Hold on. Hey see, hey, you must
have forgot the same way I broke in your house
and got these too. The next time you got to
have a signing and you gotta do you know, you know,
(32:55):
go somewhere for Lapartier. I come back in your house again.
It don't make me nothing. So you can do You
can do two things. You can send me my awards.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
No, unfortunately, I'm not gonna be do that fifty nine
hundred for Ship of the Handling.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Hey, un listen, I love you to death, right, but
I'm gonna tell you one thing. Well, you're cruising for
a bruising b Hey. Hey, that thing, oh that thing
is shiny too.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Look at hey, chat, look a look at out your awards?
He got he got towarter fade.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Hey hey, unc hey, hey unc huh are you you
cruising for a bruise? And you hear me?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No right here?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah yeah, hey let me see hold hold it up again? God,
the a is shiny. Hey, that's that's real gold. Look
at what that? What that's a chat? What is say
on there? I can't see? Uncle only got one eye,
it says two.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Twenty five Listeners Choice of Ward Chad Johnson Nightcap, Shay
Shaped Media.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Who That's me?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Twenty twenty five Listeners Choice Award Chad Johnson Nightcap, Shay
Shaped Media.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hey hey, hey, hey, I'm so happy. I'm so proud.
Hey hey hey, I'm so happy because you know, through
through life and life, you know, I ain't really never
want nothing, no, you know, being here on the show,
and you give me the opportunity to be on the show.
This is my first time winning multiple awards back to
back because I couldn't do it on the field. So
this means so much to me. That's why you need
(34:31):
to send me my award, Because I can get upset,
I can get emotional about my wards.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Who would you like who would you like to because
of who would you like to get? Would you like
for Frank Fried to get one?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yep? Matter of fact, I want one for all my kids.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Unfortunately you only got two, so French frigerick won Who
do you want the other one.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
To go to?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know what, I'm gonna let I'm gonna let the
two babies. I'm gonna let cha Cha and Kennedy split
the other one. Okay, Yeah, I like I like that,
But you're real you're gonna send it to me so
I can give it to him for Christmas? No, not
gonna do that, you, I mean, as much as I
mean it pays me to say that, I'm not right,
but I'm not. That's all right, That's all right. Hey,
(35:13):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I'm gonna put either in the safe deposit box in
the bank.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That ain't gonna work. They definitely gonna they They're not
gonna put they're gonna put that in.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
There yet, Hold of it's my safe deposit box. What
you mean they're not gonna put that in there?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
What kind of what kind of safe depositive box you got?
That's gonna fit that big ass for I think it's
uh sixteen by twenty or twenty by twenty four. Yeah, yeah,
what bank you? Who you bank with? I don't know? Okay, Okay,
I like that. Hey you saw you saw the movie
The Town?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah? I saw The Town.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, we'll go ahead and put it out in Massachusetts. Yeah,
go ahead and put it in there. Let me show
you how to get it out.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You want to be a inside man with Clive over.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Clive over drive over there and god damn Jody Foster,
Jodi Foster, Jody Foster and Jamie Fox. No, no, no,
that's Denzel.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That was Denzel, Denzel with an investigator edge of Jody Foster,
Christopher Plumber and Clive Owen.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Hey that that was a good movie, bro, That was
a good movie.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
All right, o Joe. But here's here's the deal. The
Browns that finally named your door. They're starting quarterback for
the rest of the season. No more week to week
bull jive. Here's what Stefanski had to say about it today.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah, I think all along, Mary kay. As you know,
with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making
sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys,
and I think he's uh. He has constantly uh and
consistently gotten better in each one of these games, and
how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard,
So I feel good about where his development is heading.
(36:57):
He knows there's there are always gonna be plays that
he can be better and and those type of things,
but he's very intentional about getting better each and every
game he's out there.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Kevin, all right, was it a mistake not to start
shoot earlier? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I'm not going to get into those type of things. Uh, Tony,
I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I mean that's better when you can actually when he
can actually get on the field and show you what
he can do sting on the side, flipping the ball
and and and and and going through his drop backs
when he ain't throwing to nobody.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Look o Jo, Yeah, wait, I want to hear what
you got to say on this.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I mean, I was just gonna say it's a good thing.
There's no there's no more confusion, and you're not looking
over your shoulder. You can go out there, you can
lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation
you say it all the time. I've said all the time,
and that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's
life in general. When preparation meets opportunity, and when opportunity
meets preparation, this is what you get. You get like this.
(38:00):
So the more the more he gets to to jail
and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and
his receivers in his office alignment, the better he's gonna
look on the field. And just to think about it,
if I think about what he would look like if
you look like this in his third game, what do
you think it would look like if you've been playing
all season long. There's nothing we can do about that.
(38:21):
All we can do is think about and start from
will be all right now? The game you had last week?
What you want to do is you want to build
off of that, build off of that and continue to
go forward, finish the season off strong. So they have
no choice. So they have no choice, even if you
might be auditioning for another team. Listen, we can take him.
But if he can do what he's doing right now
(38:42):
for the Cleveland Browns organization, a man, if you were
able to bring him in here, where we have a
better supporting cast to put it around him. So I
think he's auditioning still. If he's not going to be
in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another job somewhere
else where he can be the starter and not.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Have to worry.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I agree. Can Stephans can not say? Share? Is s
h words?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Is that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't you
just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name?
Why did say when we deal it with young players?
You know what I think you do. I think your
doors regress very very well. I like. I like what
I've seen, even though when he wasn't playing. You can
tell a guy that's being very attentive, uh, the guy
(39:26):
that's that's that's a very attention to detail. You see
the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings.
You see the way he goes about his business at practice,
although he wasn't getting reps with the with the starters,
and he didn't start getting reps till later in the season.
It's okay, excuse me, it is okay, tomit we made
(39:47):
a mistake. It's okay to say, you know what, Yeah,
maybe if things look different. We all have the luxury
of hindsight. It's a magnificent science. We have the luxury
of knowing today what we didn't know you yesterday. Yes,
I get that, and I get your questions, and all
your questions are very, very valid. But if I were
(40:08):
to answer her question, if I would ask you the
reporters question in honesty, now.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I look bad. This organization look bad.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Right, you see what you just did. Did you see
how you answered that question so eloquently? Not only do
you not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a
word in there. I don't know what the hell admit.
So that's why I raised them. That's why I raised
my finger. I wanted to go back to that because
what kind of notes did he take? Again? Well, and
(40:39):
you've been here to Sorrus.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
People have a hard time, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's hard because we don't like to be wrong, and
if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit
that we're wrong. But I think I think it shows growth.
I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and
we're mad, or we're warming enough to say that I
was wrong, that wish we could have done something differently.
(41:08):
Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong, and you have
to be man or woman enough to say that I
was wrong in order for you to sincerely and in
order for you to have growth. Now, if he didn't
want to ask, I think we know the answer, Chat,
I think we know the answer why he didn't want
to answer that? Was it a mistake not to start him?
Because I would like to think their record would be
(41:31):
better than what it was now.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It could be Chat.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I mean, now we're we're sitting here saying they could
have won probably two more games, given that you do it.
Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have
the exact the identical record.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We'll never know, but.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's hard to get somebody admit when they're wrong and
we see in real time what's actually happening, and we
seeing and a whole lot of guys think about it.
He's got probably the I think the fifth, the fourth
or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that
wasn't taken in the first round.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's crazy. That's crazy. So uh, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm glad he's getting an opportunity to start the teams
that he's up. The Bears and nine and four. They're
playing in Chicago. The next game the Bills nine to
four playoff team Steelers at home, uh.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
The division leader.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And then they finished on the road at your forod
at your Bengals, which could have some playoff implications for
the Bengals, not for obviously Cleveland's not going anywhere. And
also all all depends on what would they try to do?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
O Joe?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Did they start like this because they tried to get draft?
They're trying to get positioned for the draft? What? What?
What was?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
What were they?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
What were they hoping? Because you know, Joe Flacco is
what Joe Flacco is. No, I mean, the guy's forty
plus years old.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You know what he is.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
He's streaky, he'll win your game or two, but he's
always been and always has been, always will be a
turnover machine.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
That's what he is. Yeah, I have no idea. Your
guess is as good as mine. We've been trying to
figure out what the Browns been doing with their organization
for a very long time, not just this year, but
the past thirty some years, especially at the quarterback puisition.
They haven't got it right in a very long time,
and still to this day, still to this day, they
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still haven't answered that question, and the one that looks
like it might be promising, they still have an issue
with that. So it looks like what they're trying to
do based on some of the things that we've that
we've seen, some of the things that we've heard come
out out of that locker room of that organization in general,
they still don't think the person that is at the
Helm right now is the answer. They don't.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, I mean, and I really hate to feel this way,
but a part of me like, yeah, we're gonna let
him start the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Oh Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Prompt you do?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I was like, Nah, I'm good. I already showed y'all
what I can do.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Put in there. I want him to play against the Bears.
I want him to play against the Bills. I want
him to play against the Steelers because I wanted to.
I want him to show that I'm a competing quarterback. Yes,
to be at the highest level as a rookie if
given the right amount of time to prepare, right, that's
(44:30):
what I wanted. I want him.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I wanted to have a oh no, no, no, you
Oh Joe but this is not a mistake. They picked
these games and there Why couldn't you name it? Asked
the start of three games ago? Why was it week?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
The week?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Because every you know what, every time he don't want
to answer a question, he always said, well, I don't
want to get into that. I don't want to get
into that because they ask you, they ask him before,
which is to door go to start? Well, I don't
want to get into that. Let's look at the film
and all that. Brother, you know wait, no, no, no, no,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's not true. Because after the first game and they
asked him, is he gonna start the next game? He
wanted to see if he could do it again? What
is he gonna look like again? If you look bad?
What's the first thing you can think fancy was gonna do.
He's gonna put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's that's
why he has to All right, I don't want to
answer that right now. I don't know. But Shador gave
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you no choice. Man, could you imagine after he played,
after he played this game, after he played this last
game in the game before that, if he was the
bench you took bench took about losing your locker room
at that hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you
one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee
you one of the veterans that smoke out.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
They're probably already speaking out.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean, it ain't get out, It ain't get out
in the public yet.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, No, I mean you know, And I think the
thing is, Look, the last thing that you want to do.
Because Dylan is still your teammate.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's not his fault. You can never blame a play
for an organization or coach's decision. I can't.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Oh, I can't get mad at you because they put
his ass in there. I can't get mad at that.
I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted
him before me. Dad got nothing to do with me.
I wish him the best. I'm gonna support him as
best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the
guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But
I tell you, in a couple of years, you're gonna
(46:23):
wish you like Damn. I'm glad we took this guy
in the seventh round. We probably should have taken it
in early.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
So I'd never begrudged the guy because they didn't draft themselves.
Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himselves. All I'm happy now and
for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion. Did
it take longer than I think it should have? Yes,
I think most people believe that it took longer than
what it should have. But at the end of the day,
(46:50):
they got it right.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have.
Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick on Dylan Gabriel
was their third round pick, and he was sucsessed. That's sir,
to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on, automatically,
Dnan Gabriel goes into the lineup and it's time to
see what he can do. It didn't go well. It
(47:13):
didn't go well. Now shed do his time to see
what they can do.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yep, that's all. And he's only gonna get better. I mean,
you gonna have some growing pains. He's not gonna I don't.
I don't see him throwing for three sixty four and
four having four touchdowns every game.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
But I tell you what all I need to see
is improvement.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
All I need to see, and I saw some stuff
late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes
that he made earlier that he self corrected. That's when
you know a guy gets it when you can self
correct on the fly. Ojoe, Oh he get it. Yeah,
Oh he definitely all.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
We want to see. I mean, excuse me, in that
organization as a head coach, as a GM, as teammates,
not only improving week the week, but giving us a chance,
give given us a chance that we can compete weekend
and week out. That's all you want, and that's all
you that's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent
(48:11):
can you be offensively to give us a chance? That's it. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You're doing your ball. Pick it up and run with it.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Bro, do what you do.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
You got four you got the four. You got four games,
these last four games. It is about you know what,
we got our guy? We got our guy. Let's go
in the draft and get an offensive lineman, a receiver,
uh uh, a linebacker or no, I like this linebacker,
(48:45):
that rookie linebacker in the forty night he hailed. Maybe
get somebody to go opposite of a get I don't know,
but Shudor's job is to show them they don't need
a quarterback. Yeah, that's his job, yep, and then build
a team how they best see. I don't know if
we should trust them to build a team, but.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
I just think the thing gives O Joe is that
we just showed them, show them that you.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Got the right guy. Because he said it. I want
to show him what. I'm what they've been looking for.
Mh I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a
lot of stones and uh, you know sometimes, O Joe,
(49:35):
you gotta kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
They've had thirty five they had Damn Nears made the money,
many quarterbacks, and we've had u as presidents.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah, but Shador said, it starts with me.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
It stops with me.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
No more, you're gonna have You're gonna have peace and
prosperity for the next day.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Hey, matter of fact. Yeah, Hey, oh, I'm one of
the chats the chat heard about that too. You heard
about Damn I mean, this is this is sad for me.
Mister Cup. You heard about mister Cup? No, yeah, man,
(50:26):
his wife left him. Oh Lord, here we go. Yeah,
now he's a solo cup.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I do it with something. I do it with something.
Oh Yoe, that's might be some trouble. Brewis in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Titans winning cam Ward told the media post game, it
feels good to win, but you know what, but you know,
winning still high stuff. There's a lot of flaws that
we've got to continue to get over personally and just
as a team. And I've got to and weave got
to just come next week with the right mindset. When
asked about how badly they needed to win, he said,
(51:12):
I really didn't need a win. I treat the wins
the same. I treat the losses the same. There's always
something I have to do to do better. I wake
up tomorrow, I'm gonna do the same thing I did
last week, try.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And get better.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
One oh four point five to is On Morning Ramon
and Will, Titan sideline reporter Will Bowling shared a story
from the team playing on the ride home Sunday evening.
On the plane home, Oh Joe, ride home, arden Key
gets on the intercom and says, y'all enjoy this. Don't
listen to what Cam said. Y'all enjoyed this. It's hard
(51:45):
to win in this league. Enjoy it. Other Titan media
member unhappy with Bowling shared this story. Surely the team
is unhappy as well. There's a good chance he will
not be on the plane moving forward.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Confuse, So Cam, they won the game? Yes? Now? What
did Cam say? Exactly? Give it to me? And in
Layman's terms.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Uh, he they asked him how badly did they need
to win?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Okay? I really didn't need it.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
I treat wins the same, I treat losses the same.
There's always something that I have to do better. I
wake up tomorrow, I'm going to do the same thing
I did last week, tried to get better.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Okay, So he was even killed about it. He wasn't high,
he wasn't low. He was just even killed about it.
But I think you gotta choose your words, right, You
gotta choose your words wisely.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
What you mean you didn't need a win, Bro? You
had lost like fifteen games in a row.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, you gotta choose your words wisely.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
See. I think the thing is he said, he's saying
stuff that Tom Brady would say after five Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
He says stuff that Bro, I get it.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Oh man, hey, I don't stay even it's hard. Well,
you'll find out. You find out it's hard to win
in this league, aren't kids right now? I don't agree
with the sideline reporter because what stays on, what happens
on the plane stays on the plane.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
What you see in the hotel room, you don't report that. Listen,
they ain't have much to report, so he ran with
that one on. Of course, they ain't have much to
report this season.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
So but for that kid to do that, I'm telling you,
and I told you that, I told you this when
he said we are I'm telling you he better be careful.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I told you when he said what he said.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
For this gentleman to do what he did, you see
what's happened already, don't y'all listen to Don't y'all listen
to camp.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
I told you.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
I'm not telling you what somebody told me.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm telling you what being a leader is in a
locker room, being a leader of men amongst men.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
I'm telling you he better be careful.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, you got you gotta choose your word. Choose your
words wise here, especially at the quarterback position, you have
to be very pc you got to be very PC
and that that's a skill too. It is skill, that's
it's a skill to be able to do that. You know,
to be a quarterback and be very savvy when it
comes to the media and knowing how to answer questions
(54:18):
without really answering them. Answer questions without really answering them.
A politicians are really good at that. Ask the president
of the question. He'll tell you here, He'll talk to
you for fifty minutes about everything else except but what about.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But the one thing we do know? Everybody, Tom, Yes,
we needed this win. We needed to get the stitch
of losing out of this room. Yes you don't say,
oh I didn't really need I didn't really need a win.
Yes you do, right, Yeah, everybody needs it. That's why
you work so damn hard. Now, I started the question
(54:59):
myself wout your how are we doing all this? We
ain't winning? What are we doing wrong? What am I
doing wrong? And when you win after not winning? For
we didn't always win Super Bowls every year. I've had
a five six game losing streak. I've had long losing streaks.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Boy, when ain't nothing like it feels like you feel
like you won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Because you work, put all that time in on your
to win, and then when you don't, when it doesn't
bear fruit.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
When that true, that tree doesn't bear fruit, you're like,
damn okay.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
And then when you win, oh my goodness. After losing,
that's just me. Hey, But you know he probably he
won all you know, he won in college, and you
know he's been winning.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
So take winning for granted to eat his own whatever.
But I'm telling you better be careful.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
I told you this. What he said.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
What he said, he said, Oh oh, you better listen
to me.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
If I told you, I.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Said, oh Joe, if I tell you, grass would turn
the cheese. I want you to quit nightcap, start hustling crackers. Now,
I ain't telling you. Now, y'all saved this. He better
be careful. You get a little grace because you're the quarterback.
You're the first pick in the draft. Yeah, but those
(56:31):
guys watching now, they watch it and you can't fool them.
You can fool the reporters, you can fool the fans,
but them guys to see your ass eight nine hours
a day, oh Joe, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Six months a year, you ain't fooling them.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
You not fool of them.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah, but he has to be here's what in them coaching.
McCoy on Monday said when asked about Cam's mindset. Yeah,
you want to enjoy every win in this business. It's
never easy. It's tough to win in the NFL weekend
and week out. But it's just he's a competitor and
Cam wants to be great. He wants to play great
every week and there are times that if he don't.
(57:15):
If you don't play that way, He's not going to
sugar coat it. Sometimes what he says is how he
plays and his opinion on things, But it's about winning.
That's the number one thing. Rookie Marcus Harris spoke for
the Young Core on He's like, I think Cam. I
think that Cam's mindset is it was a good mindset.
(57:36):
But then, as you know, some of the other guys
expressing how difficult it is to win and the other
party is understood. But I think it's just holding ourselves
to a high standard and that's what it's all all.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
That's what it was about.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
O Joh, well you met the standard. You won, Yeah,
you met the standard. If the standard, oh if the
standard is to win and you win, I get it.
You doesn't accept the things in a loss. I mean
it's a win that you wouldn't lost. Yes, we understand that,
but you have to build that. That's something we build to, Ojo.
(58:12):
When you're not used to winning. There's the reason why
the Titans got the number one pick in the draft, Ojoe,
because what did they do the year the preview last year?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Win?
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yeah, go ahead, What were you gonna say? No that
that was it?
Speaker 1 (58:26):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
You you're right, you're right, you're right. I mean, there's
really nothing I can say uh about that. I mean,
you just you got to be able to navigate a
little better, a little better. He'll get a little savvier, savage, savvy,
savvier when it comes to talking to the media and
answering this questions. But he's been a rough year for
(58:48):
them boys over there man in Tennessee. Bright.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
A lot about playing quarterback is how to navigate your wordplay.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
M hmm.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Everything can't be blunt.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
How you like, how like me?
Speaker 1 (59:00):
You might talk one way to the barbershop and then
when I get it's a whole different to the right.
That's how you have to be as a quarterback. Now
I know people, hey, you be yourself. Be saying you
can't be yourself.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yeah, I mean well no, and not at that position.
At that position, you can't be yourself. Now you're a receiver,
you could be yourself.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Uh. Xavier Woods also talked about it today. We also
told him wins are hard to come by in this league.
You celebrate all of it, no matter who it is
or who is against. You celebrate all wins. There's no
such thing as a sorry win. A win is a
win at the end of the day. That's two teammates
and his coach.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Whether you win ugly or whether you win pretty, the
goal at the end of the day is the win.
And they have and won much this year. So that's it.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
On Joe, you look like I said, if I could
give you any advice, that he probably don't want any advice.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I said, Kim, you have to be very meticulous with
your words.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Oh that's another big word. Huh wait another you have
to be very.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
What meticulous with your words?
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Because what you fail to realize is that you everybody
is listening to what you say, they're listening to how
you say it. They listening to the tone. They listen
to the voice inflection that they're listening for, the cadence
what you say. That's the part about speaking. See, people
think a lot of people can talk. Very few people
(01:00:47):
can speak. There's a difference between the two. Don't let
that go over your head.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I like, that's a good one, right there. That's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Knowing what to say, knowing how to say it, knowing
when to say it, knowing what to say and where
and who is in the presence.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
But like I said, he's young, he's young. But you
have to you know, I know it's boring, man, I
want to be I get I get boring. But but
but when you're in that position, it's okay to be boring.
(01:01:36):
It's really okay to be boring. Let your play be extravagant.
Let your play be flamboyant. You right here, man, I'm
enjoying this one. It's been a long time. Man, it's
been a long time since this locker room has been
exuberant to be excited.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
You see how these guys are are behaving. Hold on,
when since the locker room been what make it out
of here? Hey boy, you've been in your bag, tonight boy, meticulous,
exuberant Kobe. Let me write this, let me write this
ship down.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But he's gonna be like I said, he'll learn.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
He'll learn, he'll get better at understanding how to talk,
what to say, when to say it, how to say it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
But he'll be he'll be fine. He's learning. He's learning
on the job. He's learning. He's learning on the job.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
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As I mentioned earlier, the Chargers defeated the Eagles by
the score of twenty two to nineteen. In overtime, it
looked like the Eagles were going down to win or
even tie the game. Win touched tip field gold and
then we play on. Then the next score wins. Instead,
Jalen Hurts throw into heavy traffic. The ball was deflected
by Tony Jefferson. That's fourth interceptions for interceptions by Hurts,
(05:12):
and he had another fumble. Turned the ball over twice
on one play. Oh jo Yeah, a new career high
for interceptions in the game. Now for all you guys
talking about they need to let Jalen Hurst throw more.
Let Jalen Hurst throw more. Who exhibit eighty.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Eight go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I was gonna say, obviously I didn't. Most of the time,
you think about Jalen and his decision making with the ball,
even though he doesn't throw the ball much, he owe
and protects the ball. I think before this game started
on the season, I think he maybe had three, maybe
four interceptions up to this point in the in the season,
and to have a game like tonight where his decision
making wasn't what it usually is, especially at the end
(05:53):
of the game. Understanding the circumstances, the flat riders right there,
the flat riders right there, make the guy come up
make a goddamn tackle instead of trying.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
To thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Hold on, instead of trying to squeeze a corner route
which you running, which they running the corner route to
they goddamned short side of the field. So chances are
that's not gonna be over. You can play both of them.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He can play so oh jo you to your point,
because he's in between Goddard and the route. You don't
have space. You need space because where you're going. You
can't run a twenty yard out route because you're gonna
be out of.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The damn n zone.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
God, it goes up five yards and he goes up
seven yards. The guys in between, he can literally play
proles that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's obviously if you're gonna run that concept, if you're
gonna run that route, that combination concept, you gotta run
that to the wire side. You got to run to
the wire side. Why run something like that in that
situation to the short side of the field. It makes
no sense to me. But in that situation, if you
do run it, jam has to know boom as soon
as that corner if soon the corner drops off just
a little bit, trying to play both, trying to play
(06:57):
in between. Just take what's in front of you right now,
let him, let him come up and make the tackle.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You live to see another down, o Joe.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Even if you run that to the short side of
the field, it needs you need to have distance. You
got to have separation, be Gonda, because he knows where
is number two.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's Dunson. I think that's Dodson right.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, where is he going? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He can only run so far with hell, he'll be
in Compton, which to be out of bounds, so no touchdown.
So he knows that, so now I can play. I
can sol play it because if you throw it the garden,
I'm gonna come up. It's only a three yard game.
I'm hoping you throw it the garden so I can tap.
But guess what, since you didn't I get my hand
up in the ball? Care he played off of the night.
(07:45):
There's nowhere around it. One of those picks wasn't his.
What's it called h Brown? Aj Aj so that he
saw that linebacker, He saw that linebacker. That's the one
you got. That's the one you gotta you gotta protect. Yeah,
he's you see the guy. You know there's a linebacker coming.
You gotta protect the guy. That's where you throw it
(08:07):
at his waist. That's why you get him down and
allow him to protect himself. Uh Aj knows that he
is coming coming. He's got to make that catch. You
gotta make a play. You can't popping up because if
you're popping up the guy this trailer, you'll.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Get a pick every time.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's as simple as that. But Aj knows he's gotta
got he's gotta make that play. But then he hit
on his zone. He hit the d tackle in the
damn chest and then the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Colored behind hold on, even listen that zone blessing that
d tackle pop out instead of rushing. That's hard to see.
That's hard to see for a quarter for question, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
The guy that he was trying to throw it to
was behind the guy that he hit in the chat.
How is that hard to see?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, No, I'm just saying, you know, that's why it's
call his zone. Listen, they had that that d tackle
pop out like that because you're not expecting as a quarterback,
you already what's the predetermined? You already predetermined? What wanted
you to say that? Yeah, Okay, that's all.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I just wanted him to say that, Chet, right, right,
he had already made his mind up where he was
going with the right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I just want him to say that, Chet, Yeah, you're
absolutely right. So here's the thing, Oyo, you make a
terrible reed. You hit the guy in the chests, the
guy comes from behind him scripts him of the football. Okay,
the ball pops out, you get it it instead of
falling on the ground because guess what, Joe senses are changing.
Possession is your ball and his first down going down exactly.
(09:27):
Now you try to be hero, Jayalen want to be
a hero because we're gonna talk about it on sports
and were gonna talk about it tonight. If it gets
that ball up, it gets ten yards, get fifteen yards.
So instead of doing the wire sting, what did he
try to do? O?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yoe? It came on.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Guess what happened on Joe? Ball out again?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You fumble again? Yeah? Yeah, it was a weird It
was a weird game tonight. It was a weird game
tonight with so many fumbles, whether it was special teams,
whether or you know, both offenses. It was eight turnovers
in the game to night. I'm not sure what the
what the record is for the most turnovers in the game,
but this has to be up there with it. This
has to be up there with it. And I really
thought the defense would have saved the day for them,
(10:04):
and obviously they would have been at San Diego got
a field goal in the first overtime, so I thought, hell,
e's gonna go down to score you know what you need.
I was actually hoping they were gonna score, you know,
for their for for their sake and and with with
the what they played. But unfortunately the decision making on
on on Jalen, you know, at the end of the game,
it kind of it kind of hurt. And another thing,
(10:26):
one of the one of the best throws, one of
the one of the throws that.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That you talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That third and fifteen when he let that ball go
right off the play exactly about Boy, that was beautiful. Boy,
that was That's what we call anticipating and letting it
go and trusting your receiver. That was beautiful right there.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Boy, that was our show. That's what they asked him
to do.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's what he doesn't do well enough when it's when
it's one on one. Yeah, but see the really good
one you have to throw in the windows. You have
to trust your skill set while also trusting your receiver
to be where he's gonna be. But you really gotta
trust yourself. You really have to trust yourself. Yeah, hey,
(11:16):
oh so Ojo when you ran that when you ran
that bang that bang a hey on that seventh step
or that glass rock, we called it, you call it
a bang a you called it a glance. That seventh
step in the outside foot hit when I do this
by ball. That ball should be right there. I mean,
I don't care what that safety does. I don't care.
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All I know is that corner is on my outside.
That ball gonna be there. And the quarterback job is
to protect me, is to protect the throat. Don't put
it back here and make me do this and so
he can knock it down. He put it right there,
put it right there in the safety. Come I can
protect myself.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Listen, and don't let the safety take a goddamn bad angle.
And I want to keep that thing about the backside
and dip on it, come out the backside. I got,
I got away with I got. I got away with it.
One time. I never forget. We were playing buff the
Buffalo Bills at home. Nate Clemens, Nate Clemton was guarding me.
I'm not sure what that safety was thinking about. But
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when I took that seventh step, or like maybe my
fifth step, I was peaking at the safety and oh
he was in the wrong place. He was in the
wrong place. He had his feet he had his feet
set instead of getting back in that pedal. He wasn't. No,
you already spread man. I hugged that. I hugged that
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base and went like a damn near you turn, hugged
that bach and camp bick down here and got up
out the back door. Her scold, Hi, we ain't got
no eagle fans to night, o't yo, but they're not
in here?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh no, because you know they normally whoa, whoa, whoa.
What you got to say now, O Joe? What y'all
got to fake out by the eagles? Eagle fans clime on,
we need you get the chat up. Well, how many
we got in the chat right now? Come on, eagle fans.
I know y'all loop.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They might be sleep on. It's late.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what a bird that?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh, Joe?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Normally normally eagles fly, eagles fly. All you see is
eagles on everybody chat, eagles across the board.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh there you go, there one there one there, Hey,
they in there.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But if you know, O Joe, one of the wings
broke the eagle like this here he got one wing
the other one to his side. So we got to
get him to a bet Any baths at the house,
any bets eagle has landed, crash landed.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is a good thing about it, though. The running game.
The running game got going got a little bit. Sakon
had one hundred and some change at night.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Carries.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, they got going. Let me see, let me see
what else. Hell, they still got a chance. Hu, they
still got a chance. They have a chance. They still
have a chance to win the division. They have to play,
They have to play.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They got the Commanders twice, they got the giants and
who else they got?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The commanders is winnable. The Commanders is winnable. James Daniels
is out for the season.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Oh, they got raiders, commanders, wills, commanders.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Listen. That's that's that's the toughest one right there. Where
they playing the Bills at they're playing. They matter, they
can play on the movie. You ain't got no faith
in them.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, they ain't got no faith in the in the
in themselves. We've seen this movie before, remember a couple
of years ago. They got off to that great start
and then they crash landed. Yes, eagle has the Eagle
has crashed?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes, we saw that. Doesn't it seem doesn't it feel
the same the exact same way. Matter of fact, this
was this was the year before the Super Bowl run
Actually yep, yeah yeah, Suer Bowl, Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
uh Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The Eagles defense played extremely well. They sat justin Herbert
seven times. Had he not been as mobile and athletic
as he is, they probably would have got him ten
or eleven times.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, way more than that. Absolutely. But look, they gotta
figure this thing out. They really do.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean you look at Hunt had two and a
half sacks, Bond had a half a sack, Byron Young
had a sack of the half, ni Kobe Dean had
a sack.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Jordan Davis had a sack of the half. I mean,
they were they was only yeah and you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Know something, let me let me but Jayleen Hurst two
on on two of those interceptions, one was a j
Brown's fault. One the one that Deontay Deontay Jackson or
dante Yte Johnson. That that that wasn't on Jayla Hurst.
That was on Smitty. That's Smitty Smitty. Oh yeah. When
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you slipped out, yeah yeah, yeah, you you got you
gotta come. You gotta come out that ball. You gotta come,
you gotta come out that ball and you can't stop.
You gotta come back to it. That that that that
that was a slip.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, And normally when you slip, when you try to
plan on your inside foot and you try to roll
in that foot get out from under you. Yeah, instead
of instead of dropping, oh joe, instead of dropping you wait,
putting that weight on new quads for me that they're small.
They ain't the whole They small, smitty. But you got
to get back down here because if you roll out
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that inside foot, it's gonna get out from under you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And he's throwing it on anticipation, and this is what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Uh, but it's unfortunate. I meant, have you ever seen
a turnovers? Two turnovers on one play by guy?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Hold on, a long time ago, the New Orlean Saints
was playing. I think the Redskins. Remember somebody fumber the
ball or somebody fumber the ball and then Robert meacham
I think it was Robert Meatham. The Saints had the ball.
It was an interception that roer but hold on the
ball from he.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No, but the same guy did it though, I know
the player you're talking about. He threw a pick, the
guy fumble, Robert meach took it from him, went back
the other way with it. Yeah, I'm talking about the
same guy. He throws a pit and no, no, no,
I've never seen that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I've never seen it either, and I've seen some some wacky, wacky,
wacky wacky plays Outlook, the ball bounces funny, and you
see some stuff that you love, you normally wouldn't see.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Who is that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think Jacksonville Houston playing Houston and you talked to
bat it down. He basked the ball down, O Joe.
But he bashed it right to a Houston Texan. I
mean to a Jacksonville Jaguar who walks in the end
zone on the Hell Mary, yeah, cause you knock it down,
knock it down? Oh damn. He right there, knocked it
down right in his arm and he walked right into
the end zone. We see Jacksonville run all of Who
(17:34):
was that Jacksonville, New Orleans that runs all over the field.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
They ran a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Lateral, oh like forty times. Score they scored, and then
the guy come on and mixed the pat But yeah, yeah,
I mean I think I saw something. They said it
the first time since seventy eight, so I don't know,
(18:02):
but it's it's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot
of people have seen that play because the NFL wasn't
covered like it is now and a lot of people
wasn't born in seventy eight, so somebody might have saw it,
but I have never seen it. And I've seen a
lot of wacky things because I've been around since sixty eight,
been watching football since seventy seth.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The first game I probably remember is that we went
over to my great grandmother's house on a Monday night
to watch OJ for real, Yeah, to watch OJ. OJ
then was playing on a a Monday night, and we
wanted to see, wanted to see my grandfather wanted to
see OJ. And so but look this game, really the
(18:43):
pressure is starting to mount on the Eagles because they
had they got up to this great star.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh Joe, they were they were four or five games clear.
Oh yeah, everybody, they messing losing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They mess right to lose another game, and the cop
hold on how many games they've got to win? They've
got to win in the Cowboys are what five and what?
The Cowboys are six, six and one, So they've got.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
To win three of the next five. Yeah, yeah, three
to the next five.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, charging up for the Raiders, they're gonna win beat
the Raiders. So yeah, they both teams got four games,
so they're gonna have to the Cowboys could only most
of the Cowboys can win. It's ten, right, they could
be ten six and one. Raiders win up Raiders. The
(19:35):
Eagles win three of their last four, they get the eleven.
Eleven is more than ten. It'd be very interesting to
see him if they go two and two. Yeah, because
now the Cowboys win, because the Cowboys is ten and
six one, and y'all a be.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Ten and seven.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Mm hmm, damn, nah, we be talking about no man,
unk ain't no Eagle fan. No, don't y'all would hear that?
Don't worry about what I'm a fan of. As a
matter of fact, I ain't a fan of nothing. I'm
sential heating and cooling.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's what I am.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
God, I ain't no fan. Now, don't be talking about
now all of a sudden. I ain't no fan. Y'all
don't have no problem when I get on O Yo, Bengals,
y'all don't have no problem when I get on these
other teams. Now, y'all want to now see why they
said cry Eagles cry?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now? I see why you cry Eagles cry?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Now because when I'm on o yoe bad Ah was
killing oyo when I get on all these other teams. Oh, y'all,
y'all key keep kidding bad up man up, went in up,
went in up with on one tonight. Now oh whoa
whoa now, unp don't must with the Eagles up, mess
with everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Y'all know what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Y'all have no problem when I went on when I
went in on the Ravens yesterday and went on on, boy,
y'all a key keick kidding.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I saw all y'all retweeting it. So how much faith?
How much faith you having the in the Eagles the
rest of the season scale of one to ten, honestly,
O yo, yeah? Five? Oh so you you on the
fence five? Okay, okay, okay, because.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They still haven't figured defensive they're fine. Yeah, but see
here's the problem. What happens when your offense puts you
in harm's way? You see, the defense can ball out
and the offense don't put him in harm's way. Okay,
But what happens when you put me on a short field?
You put me on a short field, God walks out
there and I don't get another yard. I got a
field goal, right, See, that's the problem that you run into.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And plus oh yo, look we look at the commander
and we said, well the commanders, but that's a division game.
You know how division games are. It don't matter. And
misery loves company. What Washington going after the last game
of the season, trying to guess what I'm taking you
with me? You got ice cream and I ain't got none.
I'm gonn knock you about your We both ain't got none. Hey,
(22:06):
but I just said it was a good time. But nah, Look,
the defense is outstanding. Their defense is gonna keep them
in a lot of games, playing really well. I mean,
think about it, Old Joey took overtime to get to
twenty two, took over time to get to twenty two.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
As a matter of fact, that they took the last
drive to get the nineteen. Yeah, and so that's how.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well the Eagles defense is still playing. They had a
quarterback Justin Herbert had one hundred and thirty nine yards passing.
Now he give up one hundred and sixty something offty
nine yards Russian. But a couple of those red runs
came in overtime. Oh y'all, when the first playlf overtime,
Herbert kept them all. Remember that he picked up like,
(22:47):
what thirteen yards on that one, So some of that,
some of that came in overtime. When you look at
this and you see twelve or twenty six, we held
him under way under we have I mean that little
like in the mid forties, twelve or twenty six, I
don't know at the top of my head for one
hundred and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Ojo, Yeah, absolutely, and I can live with that. Listen,
hold on another tall tail on. How well did the
Eagles defense play? Hell, forget playing tonight, how well they
played all season long? Correct? Your had god damn five turnovers.
Five turnovers and you lose by huh and you lose
by three? Man, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Five turnovers and you lose by three, Oh Joe, Let's
just say, for the sake of argument, oh Joe, we
have three.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What if we have two?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Let's just say we have two turnovers.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You win this game easily. And that's the problem that
you have.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Because it doesn't matter how well a particular unit plays,
especially your offense, is your defense plays. If your offense
turns the ball over and puts them on the harms,
in harm's way. So let's just say, like I said,
just say, for the sake of argument, Oho, we turned
the ball over and we don't allow them to get
a first down on the field of kicks the field goal. Yeah,
that's three points. That's three points that that our offense
(24:05):
gave up because we didn't allow first down.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We did allow them. The game of yard is just tough.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Uh. I mean aj had thirteen targets, six catches. Dallas
Goda had ten targets, eight catches. Uh, she made have
had eight targets, four catches.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
You know, you know what I don't want to happen,
even though they had a game like tonight. I don't
want Jayden to get gun shy. Don't get gun shy.
Keep going, keep throwing that thing.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Keeping but he already gun shot. That's why you're throwing
the tight windows.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But listen, but listen what I saw on that third
and fifteen when he thread that goddamn needle and he
made that anticipator anticipatory throw. Yes, he can do that
all the time. He can do it if you can
do it right there in that moment where the game
is on the goddamn line, The game is on the
line you have, you need that play. If you could
(24:59):
do it, then you could do it consistently.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
How many half court shots can you make? How many
half court shots can you make? So if I go
out there and I give you and you first try,
you make it. And so what you're gonna say, You
know what, I made it there? I can make it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You believe that. I mean, that's something that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Of an exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
O Yo.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Think about what you said in that moment, right when
you throw Caution to the wind and you feel him,
I ain't got nothing to lose. Now, it was that
moment in the ball game that he had to do
that in the first quarter. He's gonna be a little
more tentative. He knows if I don't get this, Oh Joe,
(25:39):
it's fourth and something.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mm hm. He ain't had no he he ain't had
no choice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But I mean, that was That's as good as throw
as we've seen Jalen Hurts make this year.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hold On, that was the best. That was the that
was the best throw.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
As you said, given the circumstances, thirty fifteen over time,
back against the wall, we're down three. We don't want
to be fourth and fifteen. Yeah, at worst. I mean, look,
if he takes a fire to throw, give me something.
I don't want to be fourth and fifteen. Let's just
say if I'm fourth and five, I can live with that.
(26:14):
But he got the whole shamag. I thought, for a second,
I'm like, she smitt, it might come out the back side.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I thought he was. I thought it might come out
the backside. Listen, all the tickets for that safety to
take the wrong angle, take your wrong angle is curtains.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, look they got their work cut out for. The
Chargers had to win this game. The Chargers don't win
this game. It's basically it's basically curtains for them because
I don't think they can do enough what they could have.
Because it's four games left, they'd have been eight and
for the Broncos or eleven and two. They played the
Broncos the last game of the season, so the Broncos
theoretically could play them and the Chargers would win the
(26:53):
tie breaker if they both finished at twelve wins on
Joe because they would have swept swept the series, so
they owned the tiebreaker right now. The Broncos on the
tiebreaker over the Patriots because they beat the Raiders, and
the Raiders beat the beat the Pats at the beginning
of the season. So this thing is not over yet.
It's a long ways from being over. But the Eagles
really got their work. They really dug themselves a hole
(27:15):
with this one joke. And the Cowboys like, damn, just
when we every time, every time we try to step
in front of the train, equally you pull us back
off the tracks. We see the train coming, were right there,
Let let the train go and run over. He can say, nah,
not just yet, and pull us off the track. But uh,
(27:39):
who did the who did the Chargers play next?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Who they got? Who they got?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They got the Chiefs, They got the Texans chiefs, Oh,
they got the Chiefs. You got the Cowboys, they got
the Texans. And they got the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, and you know the Eagles. The Eagles got selling sacks.
You know the Broncos defense chomping at the bed.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
They're definitely coming.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And that's in dev That game is in Denver.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I justin, justin Herban needs to take care of the
left hand too.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Hard, because it's because the thing is, you do everything
you can knock the fall down on it. It's and
it's hard, and it's hard. It's hard not to it's
hard to protect the ball. It's hard to do this
because hey, you saw them guys swept swiping at it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Report he got he got a hurt ankle anytime, anytime
they run to the right and watching them hand off
with the right hand, Hey, that looked funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, or the back hand hand off. But
the look, I think this is what the NFL wanted.
That's why everybody have to play a division game the
last game of the season, because normally, what were guys doing,
O joe, Guys were sitting, guys out.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Ain't nobody playing out? H nah, bro, you got to
play now.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You don't have a choice. Ain't nobody got no division.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You look at the af you look at the NFC West,
the forty nine Ers, the Rams, and you got who
else in Seattle. That thing coming down, that thing coming
down to the last month, the last game, last game. Yep,
that's what you want. You look at the situation with
the nf af C North. You got the Steelers, you
(29:37):
got the Ravens, and the Bengals. Say hey, we ain't
done yet. No Hey, I'm glad. You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You know they're done.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But I'm saying no, you said you said exactly. You
said exactly how you feel. You said.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
AFC South with the Houston Texans and Jaggs. Yeah, you
see they Philip Rivers in forty four year old Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on. Now I'm in impeccable shape. On if Philip
Rivers could come back and play, I mean, the Bengals
should go and give me a shot.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
O Joe, y'all play totally different position, and Philip Rivers
has never never relied on that little system. You see
Philip Rivers up close. He ain't got much legs. He
got ten kids, he ain't got much legs left. Oh Joe,
damn he got grandkids?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah damn, yeah, yeah, Hey, I got grand kid.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But hell I'm fifty seven. Yeah, ain't had no grandkids
in forty four.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Hey, I got grandkids. I got a grand child, do you?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Damn yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
For the game one week at the undergoing surgery to
repair a fraction.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
On the non throwing hand, Herbert led his team in
Russian and had put up to five yards total. He
rushed for sixty six yards Oh Joe on ten carries.
He gained twenty of that on the game time drive
late in the fourth quarter. I mean these games, I
mean the days of it. It's guys are mobile now, guys,
(31:14):
I mean you look at that division. What Mahons got legs,
bo Nicks definitely got legs, Herbert got legs. I mean, guys,
the days of Oh Joe used to be. You know,
you have one or two guys that was mobile, and
if you were mobile, that was that was a strike
against you. Yeah, they downgraded you.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We were mobile. Now you got the habit. Yeah, and yeah,
the game is evolved. It's not. It's not. It's not
like the same way we're quarterbacks were statues back there
and you were. You were for you know, a prototypical
drop back passing quarterback. Yeah, that that that is. That
is not what it is today. But if you are that,
then you have to make up for that and be
(31:53):
special in so many other areas, yes, making for your
lack of production with your legs.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
You right about that?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh Yoe?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You ain't you know what I can't I when you right,
you ain't wrong? Oko, We got some good news.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Oh whoa wait, wait wait wait, let me get comfortable,
Let me get comfortable. Oh let me take man my
shirt so tight? Hold on, okay, okay, go ahead, get
it to me.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We got a great news. The good news is our
awards came in. The bad news is they sent me
your awards.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Come on, man, hey, listen, we're.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not come don't come on, man, come on here, come on, man,
come on, don't come on man.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now it's gonna be. It's gonna be twenty twenty. Listen,
I just listen. Hold on. Hey see, hey, you must
have forgot the same way I broke in your house
and got these too. The next time you got to
have a signing and you gotta do you know, you know,
(32:55):
go somewhere for Lapartier. I come back in your house again.
It don't make me nothing. So you can do You
can do two things. You can send me my awards.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
No, unfortunately, I'm not gonna be do that fifty nine
hundred for Ship of the Handling.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Hey, un listen, I love you to death, right, but
I'm gonna tell you one thing. Well, you're cruising for
a bruising b Hey. Hey, that thing, oh that thing
is shiny too.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Look at hey, chat, look a look at out your awards?
He got he got towarter fade.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Hey hey, unc hey, hey unc huh are you you
cruising for a bruise? And you hear me?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No right here?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah yeah, hey let me see hold hold it up again? God,
the a is shiny. Hey, that's that's real gold. Look
at what that? What that's a chat? What is say
on there? I can't see? Uncle only got one eye,
it says two.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Twenty five Listeners Choice of Ward Chad Johnson Nightcap, Shay
Shaped Media.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Who That's me?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Twenty twenty five Listeners Choice Award Chad Johnson Nightcap, Shay
Shaped Media.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hey hey, hey, hey, I'm so happy. I'm so proud.
Hey hey hey, I'm so happy because you know, through
through life and life, you know, I ain't really never
want nothing, no, you know, being here on the show,
and you give me the opportunity to be on the show.
This is my first time winning multiple awards back to
back because I couldn't do it on the field. So
this means so much to me. That's why you need
(34:31):
to send me my award, Because I can get upset,
I can get emotional about my wards.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Who would you like who would you like to because
of who would you like to get? Would you like
for Frank Fried to get one?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yep? Matter of fact, I want one for all my kids.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Unfortunately you only got two, so French frigerick won Who
do you want the other one.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
To go to?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know what, I'm gonna let I'm gonna let the
two babies. I'm gonna let cha Cha and Kennedy split
the other one. Okay, Yeah, I like I like that,
But you're real you're gonna send it to me so
I can give it to him for Christmas? No, not
gonna do that, you, I mean, as much as I
mean it pays me to say that, I'm not right,
but I'm not. That's all right, That's all right. Hey,
(35:13):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I'm gonna put either in the safe deposit box in
the bank.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That ain't gonna work. They definitely gonna they They're not
gonna put they're gonna put that in.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
There yet, Hold of it's my safe deposit box. What
you mean they're not gonna put that in there?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
What kind of what kind of safe depositive box you got?
That's gonna fit that big ass for I think it's
uh sixteen by twenty or twenty by twenty four. Yeah, yeah,
what bank you? Who you bank with? I don't know? Okay, Okay,
I like that. Hey you saw you saw the movie
The Town?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah? I saw The Town.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, we'll go ahead and put it out in Massachusetts. Yeah,
go ahead and put it in there. Let me show
you how to get it out.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You want to be a inside man with Clive over.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Clive over drive over there and god damn Jody Foster,
Jodi Foster, Jody Foster and Jamie Fox. No, no, no,
that's Denzel.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That was Denzel, Denzel with an investigator edge of Jody Foster,
Christopher Plumber and Clive Owen.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Hey that that was a good movie, bro, That was
a good movie.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
All right, o Joe. But here's here's the deal. The
Browns that finally named your door. They're starting quarterback for
the rest of the season. No more week to week
bull jive. Here's what Stefanski had to say about it today.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah, I think all along, Mary kay. As you know,
with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making
sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys,
and I think he's uh. He has constantly uh and
consistently gotten better in each one of these games, and
how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard,
So I feel good about where his development is heading.
(36:57):
He knows there's there are always gonna be plays that
he can be better and and those type of things,
but he's very intentional about getting better each and every
game he's out there.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Kevin, all right, was it a mistake not to start
shoot earlier? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I'm not going to get into those type of things. Uh, Tony,
I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I mean that's better when you can actually when he
can actually get on the field and show you what
he can do sting on the side, flipping the ball
and and and and and going through his drop backs
when he ain't throwing to nobody.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Look o Jo, Yeah, wait, I want to hear what
you got to say on this.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I mean, I was just gonna say it's a good thing.
There's no there's no more confusion, and you're not looking
over your shoulder. You can go out there, you can
lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation
you say it all the time. I've said all the time,
and that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's
life in general. When preparation meets opportunity, and when opportunity
meets preparation, this is what you get. You get like this.
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So the more the more he gets to to jail
and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and
his receivers in his office alignment, the better he's gonna
look on the field. And just to think about it,
if I think about what he would look like if
you look like this in his third game, what do
you think it would look like if you've been playing
all season long. There's nothing we can do about that.
(38:21):
All we can do is think about and start from
will be all right now? The game you had last week?
What you want to do is you want to build
off of that, build off of that and continue to
go forward, finish the season off strong. So they have
no choice. So they have no choice, even if you
might be auditioning for another team. Listen, we can take him.
But if he can do what he's doing right now
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for the Cleveland Browns organization, a man, if you were
able to bring him in here, where we have a
better supporting cast to put it around him. So I
think he's auditioning still. If he's not going to be
in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another job somewhere
else where he can be the starter and not.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Have to worry.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I agree. Can Stephans can not say? Share? Is s
h words?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Is that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't you
just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name?
Why did say when we deal it with young players?
You know what I think you do. I think your
doors regress very very well. I like. I like what
I've seen, even though when he wasn't playing. You can
tell a guy that's being very attentive, uh, the guy
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that's that's that's a very attention to detail. You see
the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings.
You see the way he goes about his business at practice,
although he wasn't getting reps with the with the starters,
and he didn't start getting reps till later in the season.
It's okay, excuse me, it is okay, tomit we made
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a mistake. It's okay to say, you know what, Yeah,
maybe if things look different. We all have the luxury
of hindsight. It's a magnificent science. We have the luxury
of knowing today what we didn't know you yesterday. Yes,
I get that, and I get your questions, and all
your questions are very, very valid. But if I were
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to answer her question, if I would ask you the
reporters question in honesty, now.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I look bad. This organization look bad.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Right, you see what you just did. Did you see
how you answered that question so eloquently? Not only do
you not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a
word in there. I don't know what the hell admit.
So that's why I raised them. That's why I raised
my finger. I wanted to go back to that because
what kind of notes did he take? Again? Well, and
(40:39):
you've been here to Sorrus.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
People have a hard time, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's hard because we don't like to be wrong, and
if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit
that we're wrong. But I think I think it shows growth.
I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and
we're mad, or we're warming enough to say that I
was wrong, that wish we could have done something differently.
(41:08):
Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong, and you have
to be man or woman enough to say that I
was wrong in order for you to sincerely and in
order for you to have growth. Now, if he didn't
want to ask, I think we know the answer, Chat,
I think we know the answer why he didn't want
to answer that? Was it a mistake not to start him?
Because I would like to think their record would be
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better than what it was now.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It could be Chat.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I mean, now we're we're sitting here saying they could
have won probably two more games, given that you do it.
Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have
the exact the identical record.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We'll never know, but.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's hard to get somebody admit when they're wrong and
we see in real time what's actually happening, and we
seeing and a whole lot of guys think about it.
He's got probably the I think the fifth, the fourth
or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that
wasn't taken in the first round.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's crazy. That's crazy. So uh, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm glad he's getting an opportunity to start the teams
that he's up. The Bears and nine and four. They're
playing in Chicago. The next game the Bills nine to
four playoff team Steelers at home, uh.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
The division leader.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And then they finished on the road at your forod
at your Bengals, which could have some playoff implications for
the Bengals, not for obviously Cleveland's not going anywhere. And
also all all depends on what would they try to do?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
O Joe?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Did they start like this because they tried to get draft?
They're trying to get positioned for the draft? What? What?
What was?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
What were they?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
What were they hoping? Because you know, Joe Flacco is
what Joe Flacco is. No, I mean, the guy's forty
plus years old.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You know what he is.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
He's streaky, he'll win your game or two, but he's
always been and always has been, always will be a
turnover machine.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
That's what he is. Yeah, I have no idea. Your
guess is as good as mine. We've been trying to
figure out what the Browns been doing with their organization
for a very long time, not just this year, but
the past thirty some years, especially at the quarterback puisition.
They haven't got it right in a very long time,
and still to this day, still to this day, they
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still haven't answered that question, and the one that looks
like it might be promising, they still have an issue
with that. So it looks like what they're trying to
do based on some of the things that we've that
we've seen, some of the things that we've heard come
out out of that locker room of that organization in general,
they still don't think the person that is at the
Helm right now is the answer. They don't.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, I mean, and I really hate to feel this way,
but a part of me like, yeah, we're gonna let
him start the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Oh Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Prompt you do?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I was like, Nah, I'm good. I already showed y'all
what I can do.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Put in there. I want him to play against the Bears.
I want him to play against the Bills. I want
him to play against the Steelers because I wanted to.
I want him to show that I'm a competing quarterback. Yes,
to be at the highest level as a rookie if
given the right amount of time to prepare, right, that's
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what I wanted. I want him.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I wanted to have a oh no, no, no, you
Oh Joe but this is not a mistake. They picked
these games and there Why couldn't you name it? Asked
the start of three games ago? Why was it week?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
The week?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Because every you know what, every time he don't want
to answer a question, he always said, well, I don't
want to get into that. I don't want to get
into that because they ask you, they ask him before,
which is to door go to start? Well, I don't
want to get into that. Let's look at the film
and all that. Brother, you know wait, no, no, no, no,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's not true. Because after the first game and they
asked him, is he gonna start the next game? He
wanted to see if he could do it again? What
is he gonna look like again? If you look bad?
What's the first thing you can think fancy was gonna do.
He's gonna put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's that's
why he has to All right, I don't want to
answer that right now. I don't know. But Shador gave
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you no choice. Man, could you imagine after he played,
after he played this game, after he played this last
game in the game before that, if he was the
bench you took bench took about losing your locker room
at that hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you
one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee
you one of the veterans that smoke out.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
They're probably already speaking out.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I mean, it ain't get out, It ain't get out
in the public yet.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, No, I mean you know, And I think the
thing is, Look, the last thing that you want to do.
Because Dylan is still your teammate.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's not his fault. You can never blame a play
for an organization or coach's decision. I can't.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Oh, I can't get mad at you because they put
his ass in there. I can't get mad at that.
I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted
him before me. Dad got nothing to do with me.
I wish him the best. I'm gonna support him as
best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the
guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But
I tell you, in a couple of years, you're gonna
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wish you like Damn. I'm glad we took this guy
in the seventh round. We probably should have taken it
in early.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
So I'd never begrudged the guy because they didn't draft themselves.
Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himselves. All I'm happy now and
for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion. Did
it take longer than I think it should have? Yes,
I think most people believe that it took longer than
what it should have. But at the end of the day,
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they got it right.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have.
Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick on Dylan Gabriel
was their third round pick, and he was sucsessed. That's sir,
to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on, automatically,
Dnan Gabriel goes into the lineup and it's time to
see what he can do. It didn't go well. It
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didn't go well. Now shed do his time to see
what they can do.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yep, that's all. And he's only gonna get better. I mean,
you gonna have some growing pains. He's not gonna I don't.
I don't see him throwing for three sixty four and
four having four touchdowns every game.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
But I tell you what all I need to see
is improvement.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
All I need to see, and I saw some stuff
late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes
that he made earlier that he self corrected. That's when
you know a guy gets it when you can self
correct on the fly. Ojoe, Oh he get it. Yeah,
Oh he definitely all.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
We want to see. I mean, excuse me, in that
organization as a head coach, as a GM, as teammates,
not only improving week the week, but giving us a chance,
give given us a chance that we can compete weekend
and week out. That's all you want, and that's all
you that's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent
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can you be offensively to give us a chance? That's it. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You're doing your ball. Pick it up and run with it.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Bro, do what you do.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
You got four you got the four. You got four games,
these last four games. It is about you know what,
we got our guy? We got our guy. Let's go
in the draft and get an offensive lineman, a receiver,
uh uh, a linebacker or no, I like this linebacker,
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that rookie linebacker in the forty night he hailed. Maybe
get somebody to go opposite of a get I don't know,
but Shudor's job is to show them they don't need
a quarterback. Yeah, that's his job, yep, and then build
a team how they best see. I don't know if
we should trust them to build a team, but.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
I just think the thing gives O Joe is that
we just showed them, show them that you.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Got the right guy. Because he said it. I want
to show him what. I'm what they've been looking for.
Mh I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a
lot of stones and uh, you know sometimes, O Joe,
(49:35):
you gotta kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
They've had thirty five they had Damn Nears made the money,
many quarterbacks, and we've had u as presidents.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Yeah, but Shador said, it starts with me.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
It stops with me.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
No more, you're gonna have You're gonna have peace and
prosperity for the next day.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Hey, matter of fact. Yeah, Hey, oh, I'm one of
the chats the chat heard about that too. You heard
about Damn I mean, this is this is sad for me.
Mister Cup. You heard about mister Cup? No, yeah, man,
(50:26):
his wife left him. Oh Lord, here we go. Yeah,
now he's a solo cup.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I do it with something. I do it with something.
Oh Yoe, that's might be some trouble. Brewis in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Titans winning cam Ward told the media post game, it
feels good to win, but you know what, but you know,
winning still high stuff. There's a lot of flaws that
we've got to continue to get over personally and just
as a team. And I've got to and weave got
to just come next week with the right mindset. When
asked about how badly they needed to win, he said,
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I really didn't need a win. I treat the wins
the same. I treat the losses the same. There's always
something I have to do to do better. I wake
up tomorrow, I'm gonna do the same thing I did
last week, try.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And get better.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
One oh four point five to is On Morning Ramon
and Will, Titan sideline reporter Will Bowling shared a story
from the team playing on the ride home Sunday evening.
On the plane home, Oh Joe, ride home, arden Key
gets on the intercom and says, y'all enjoy this. Don't
listen to what Cam said. Y'all enjoyed this. It's hard
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to win in this league. Enjoy it. Other Titan media
member unhappy with Bowling shared this story. Surely the team
is unhappy as well. There's a good chance he will
not be on the plane moving forward.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Confuse, So Cam, they won the game? Yes? Now? What
did Cam say? Exactly? Give it to me? And in
Layman's terms.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Uh, he they asked him how badly did they need
to win?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Okay? I really didn't need it.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
I treat wins the same, I treat losses the same.
There's always something that I have to do better. I
wake up tomorrow, I'm going to do the same thing
I did last week, tried to get better.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Okay, So he was even killed about it. He wasn't high,
he wasn't low. He was just even killed about it.
But I think you gotta choose your words, right, You
gotta choose your words wisely.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
What you mean you didn't need a win, Bro? You
had lost like fifteen games in a row.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, you gotta choose your words wisely.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
See. I think the thing is he said, he's saying
stuff that Tom Brady would say after five Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
He says stuff that Bro, I get it.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Oh man, hey, I don't stay even it's hard. Well,
you'll find out. You find out it's hard to win
in this league, aren't kids right now? I don't agree
with the sideline reporter because what stays on, what happens
on the plane stays on the plane.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
What you see in the hotel room, you don't report that. Listen,
they ain't have much to report, so he ran with
that one on. Of course, they ain't have much to
report this season.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
So but for that kid to do that, I'm telling you,
and I told you that, I told you this when
he said we are I'm telling you he better be careful.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I told you when he said what he said.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
For this gentleman to do what he did, you see
what's happened already, don't y'all listen to Don't y'all listen
to camp.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
I told you.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
I'm not telling you what somebody told me.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm telling you what being a leader is in a
locker room, being a leader of men amongst men.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
I'm telling you he better be careful.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, you got you gotta choose your word. Choose your
words wise here, especially at the quarterback position, you have
to be very pc you got to be very PC
and that that's a skill too. It is skill, that's
it's a skill to be able to do that. You know,
to be a quarterback and be very savvy when it
comes to the media and knowing how to answer questions
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without really answering them. Answer questions without really answering them.
A politicians are really good at that. Ask the president
of the question. He'll tell you here, He'll talk to
you for fifty minutes about everything else except but what about.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But the one thing we do know? Everybody, Tom, Yes,
we needed this win. We needed to get the stitch
of losing out of this room. Yes you don't say,
oh I didn't really need I didn't really need a win.
Yes you do, right, Yeah, everybody needs it. That's why
you work so damn hard. Now, I started the question
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myself wout your how are we doing all this? We
ain't winning? What are we doing wrong? What am I
doing wrong? And when you win after not winning? For
we didn't always win Super Bowls every year. I've had
a five six game losing streak. I've had long losing streaks.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Boy, when ain't nothing like it feels like you feel
like you won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Because you work, put all that time in on your
to win, and then when you don't, when it doesn't
bear fruit.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
When that true, that tree doesn't bear fruit, you're like,
damn okay.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
And then when you win, oh my goodness. After losing,
that's just me. Hey, But you know he probably he
won all you know, he won in college, and you
know he's been winning.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
So take winning for granted to eat his own whatever.
But I'm telling you better be careful.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
I told you this. What he said.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
What he said, he said, Oh oh, you better listen
to me.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
If I told you, I.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Said, oh Joe, if I tell you, grass would turn
the cheese. I want you to quit nightcap, start hustling crackers. Now,
I ain't telling you. Now, y'all saved this. He better
be careful. You get a little grace because you're the quarterback.
You're the first pick in the draft. Yeah, but those
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guys watching now, they watch it and you can't fool them.
You can fool the reporters, you can fool the fans,
but them guys to see your ass eight nine hours
a day, oh Joe, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Six months a year, you ain't fooling them.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
You not fool of them.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah, but he has to be here's what in them coaching.
McCoy on Monday said when asked about Cam's mindset. Yeah,
you want to enjoy every win in this business. It's
never easy. It's tough to win in the NFL weekend
and week out. But it's just he's a competitor and
Cam wants to be great. He wants to play great
every week and there are times that if he don't.
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If you don't play that way, He's not going to
sugar coat it. Sometimes what he says is how he
plays and his opinion on things, But it's about winning.
That's the number one thing. Rookie Marcus Harris spoke for
the Young Core on He's like, I think Cam. I
think that Cam's mindset is it was a good mindset.
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But then, as you know, some of the other guys
expressing how difficult it is to win and the other
party is understood. But I think it's just holding ourselves
to a high standard and that's what it's all all.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
That's what it was about.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
O Joh, well you met the standard. You won, Yeah,
you met the standard. If the standard, oh if the
standard is to win and you win, I get it.
You doesn't accept the things in a loss. I mean
it's a win that you wouldn't lost. Yes, we understand that,
but you have to build that. That's something we build to, Ojo.
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When you're not used to winning. There's the reason why
the Titans got the number one pick in the draft, Ojoe,
because what did they do the year the preview last year?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Win?
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yeah, go ahead, What were you gonna say? No that
that was it?
Speaker 1 (58:26):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (58:27):
You you're right, you're right, you're right. I mean, there's
really nothing I can say uh about that. I mean,
you just you got to be able to navigate a
little better, a little better. He'll get a little savvier, savage, savvy,
savvier when it comes to talking to the media and
answering this questions. But he's been a rough year for
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them boys over there man in Tennessee. Bright.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
A lot about playing quarterback is how to navigate your wordplay.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
M hmm.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Everything can't be blunt.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
How you like, how like me?
Speaker 1 (59:00):
You might talk one way to the barbershop and then
when I get it's a whole different to the right.
That's how you have to be as a quarterback. Now
I know people, hey, you be yourself. Be saying you
can't be yourself.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yeah, I mean well no, and not at that position.
At that position, you can't be yourself. Now you're a receiver,
you could be yourself.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Uh. Xavier Woods also talked about it today. We also
told him wins are hard to come by in this league.
You celebrate all of it, no matter who it is
or who is against. You celebrate all wins. There's no
such thing as a sorry win. A win is a
win at the end of the day. That's two teammates
and his coach.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Whether you win ugly or whether you win pretty, the
goal at the end of the day is the win.
And they have and won much this year. So that's it.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
On Joe, you look like I said, if I could
give you any advice, that he probably don't want any advice.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I said, Kim, you have to be very meticulous with
your words.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Oh that's another big word. Huh wait another you have
to be very.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
What meticulous with your words?
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Because what you fail to realize is that you everybody
is listening to what you say, they're listening to how
you say it. They listening to the tone. They listen
to the voice inflection that they're listening for, the cadence
what you say. That's the part about speaking. See, people
think a lot of people can talk. Very few people
(01:00:47):
can speak. There's a difference between the two. Don't let
that go over your head.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I like, that's a good one, right there. That's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Knowing what to say, knowing how to say it, knowing
when to say it, knowing what to say and where
and who is in the presence.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
But like I said, he's young, he's young. But you
have to you know, I know it's boring, man, I
want to be I get I get boring. But but
but when you're in that position, it's okay to be boring.
(01:01:36):
It's really okay to be boring. Let your play be extravagant.
Let your play be flamboyant. You right here, man, I'm
enjoying this one. It's been a long time. Man, it's
been a long time since this locker room has been
exuberant to be excited.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
You see how these guys are are behaving. Hold on,
when since the locker room been what make it out
of here? Hey boy, you've been in your bag, tonight boy, meticulous,
exuberant Kobe. Let me write this, let me write this
ship down.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But he's gonna be like I said, he'll learn.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
He'll learn, he'll get better at understanding how to talk,
what to say, when to say it, how to say it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
But he'll be he'll be fine. He's learning. He's learning
on the job. He's learning. He's learning on the job.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Uh.
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