Nightcap - Hour 1: Embiid knee injury, Steve Smith Sr. affair, Hooters bankruptcy

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Philadelphia 76ers and Joel Embiid consulting doctors and considering alternative options, such as surgery, for his injured left knee. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Steve Smith Sr. having an affair with another man's wife, Hooters is filing for bankruptcy and much more!

07:00 - Show start
07:15 - Intro
16:12 - Joel Embidd knee injury update 
32:00 - Popovich’s uncertain future 
35:16 - Jokic comments on Taco Bell draft 
46:40 - Jaylen Brown fails musicians tests 
51:45 - Hooters going out of business  
58:54 - Steve Smith affair

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You do something on the joint. If you got something,
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If I see something I like, you know, and I
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r E L L E Rail pill Rail Praise God?
I would I would, I would have liked some of
the merge too. Like, listen, I bought it. You make
it seem like they caught me this I purchased.

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we did a show together in your mind, your mind
should have clicked boom. If from buying a shirt, let
me get a two X for Oho too.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Like that. My team there, Shelley, you had Doug and
Ryan that was there, Rail was there. My team went
back money out said hey, they got your merch up.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Would you like something?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I said, yeah, get t shirts, got my brother extra
triple at three of them.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I got myself something.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hold on, you got yourself something, So you just ain't
thinking about me at all?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, my team got me something they so hold on,
hold on cod So now you're putting you putting the
on this on your team.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So your team ain't even think about me when it
was bying shirts.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, cause they walked right past Real as she was
checking out Reial with check it out. You had Doug
there at Chad, what y'all think about this?

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I think your team should should have thought about.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
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That?

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I purchased this out of my pocket. He think it
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I didn't say, ain't nothing wrong with you? Personed it.
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I say, you're mine?

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And now we talked about two different things.

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We talk about a coloring it a Rose Roys, and
we talked about a T shirt that costs how about
you costs quarter dollars?

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Hey, when you pay me my money, i'd of got it.

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to give me fifty two hundred, I could have bought
a lot of T shirts.

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Wait a minute, I still under that money.

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What I'm gonna get that to you?

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Yeah me everywhere everywhere I go on the island, everybody
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Being around all those entertainers and lebs and things of
that nature and everybody. Man, we love Nightcap. We love
what you and Ocho do on Nightcap. They love club
I mean the guys like, man, we gotta get our fixed.
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so positive, it was so great. All the negativity that
you might see online and I see online, it.

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a very small percentage of people that don't like or
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whether it be Nightcap. That's why I like now normally
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about not just you, about me and what we're doing together.
It's love everywhere I go on. Yes, different, Yes it is.

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they got their legacy awarded rightfully. So and talking to
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to meet his sister for the first time. Matt Damon
Waynams Junior. Just met so many people and all positive.

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Bro.

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Just keep doing what you're doing.

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all that other stuff.

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You keep doing what you're doing.

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And we got you so thank you everybody in attendance.
We had a great time. A man, oh sho they
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the man somebody you know, he prayed, He prayed, and
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there's another whole guest and he come on and cracking.
So uh Jalen Jalen, Jaydon, Jayden Daniels. His mom was
there with one of her friends, and so she came down.
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This man gonna talk about is that Michelle Jannon? Hey listen, hey, honestly,
young you know you know you know where's Waldough. Everybody
wants to know who people in the world still don't
know where Waldo is. Everybody wants to know who Michelle is. Listen,
I see you, I see you every day, you know,

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four times a week.

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I don't even know who Michelle is to this point,
I want to know. I just stopped asking, So I
mean listen, at some point, uh, Michelle is going to
have to reveal herself, or You're gonna have to reveal
her or you can keep it a mystery, or you
can keep it a mystery like Jimmy Hoffer.

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How do you want to do it?

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You guys, it's fine, it's fine.

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Cool.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Look, she don't want y'all in a business, so I
will leave it to that. Check this out, O Joe.
The seventy Sixers Joel Embiid is exploring options for its knee.
The spiller leftis The seventy six Ers and Joel Embiid
are consulting doctors and considering alternative options, such a surgery
for his injured left knee. Both sides of hope uh

(14:58):
for progress and in Bead's condition, but his determination to
play in current treatments, including regular injections, sources said, have
not led to anything improvable. Embiid has publicly and properly
said in recent weeks that he might eventually need surgery
or an extended rest period for his need to heal,

(15:18):
but he has been determined to find ways to continue
playing and be available for the seventy six Ers.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh Joe, Yeah, the Joel Andbech shut it down.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think obviously it's hampering him. It is hampering his plays,
affecting his ability to dominate the way he once did.
Because of his ailing need, he's not able to dominate
the game as he always has, you know when he
is healthy. My suggestion to embiid, I'm thinking about players,
whether it be NBA or a back, NBA or football,

(15:50):
that have gotten that have had need troubles in him
come back successful and been able to dominate at their
respective craft and respect to positions. And the only thing
I can think of, only person I can think of
is a Adrian Peterson was able to do after having
a terrans A c L. I don't know what doctor,
Lord have mercy. I don't know what doctor Adrian Peterson

(16:13):
went to. But whatever he did, whatever procedures, whatever, whatever
rehab he did, and B needs a follow suit. I
know there's a difference in height and weight and everything.
But if if Adrian Peterson come back and not skip
a beat or not miss a beat and come back
and do what he did and still play at an
elite level after completely tearing his A c L and

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B can come back to as well if he's serious
about putting the work to get back to his dominating ways.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Think about what AP was before he got injured.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
So he huh, you don't think and b was his
physical condition?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Did we have ever have any doubts about a d
A p Adrian Peterson conditioning? Did we have any did
we have any doubt any questions about his desire and
what football meant to him?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
To what you mean? Okay, I see where you're going.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
So now he's going to a So everybody like man
ad is not gonna be what he once was.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
His mindsets. I'm gonna be better than what I once was.
And he attacked it right. You said, there's a difference.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
There's a difference between being six foot six one and
two twenty as opposed to being seven to one and
three forty three twenty. You see the difference. Yeah, and
it injured. Young people grow up to be injured. Old
people don't get healthier as you age. Again, right, normally,

(17:49):
when you have issues as a as an adolescent, juve,
Now what happens? You carry those illnesses into adulthood. There
have been times that may sometime you get out of it.
I mean, you have allergies or you have migraines or
things of that nature, and sometimes you can overcome them.
But a lot of times, if you are injured or

(18:09):
you have illnesses or ailments as a youngster. You know
if that normally follow you into your adulthood.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Go ahead, I got a good question and chat, y'all
could answer this too, ap Obviously he had the mindset.
Everything is mindset when it comes.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
To to getting injured, regards to how much money if
you made?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Do you think and Bed's mindset and change at this stage.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
In his career, despite already being rich, despite already being.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Paid, is it possible for for that hunger to still
be there? Is it possible that that hunger to want
to dominate and get back to where he once was
when he is healthy, when he was available on the court.
You think, you think it's still there, because that's that's
that's the part that's it's a hard thing for people,

(19:01):
especially players, especially once you make a certain amount of money,
you kind of get I don't want to say you
got comfortable. I'm not saying he's yell that same urge
and want to and desire. Oh you know what I
got to I got miles of feed you know, I
got bills to pay When you already got two and
you're sitting on fifty million dollars already, I mean, what's

(19:21):
the desire to come back and want to play or
at least get back healthy to your dominating ways.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
So we have a conversation and we talk about this
a lot. Is that when someone has everything, when they
have fame, they have adulation, to have praise, they've made money,
and they still play and they still train as if
they're broke. Yeah, you look at a Lebron, you look
at a Brady, you look at a Kobe, you look
at a Jordan, You look at some of these guys.

(19:47):
Now that's currently in the league. Oyo, it's hard. When
you live in an ivory tower and you got mink pajamas,
it's a different It's different. Oh yo, is diffront of them?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
What kind of pajamas? Mink?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
They got mink pajamas for red And you're saying, when
you got mink slippers and silk pajamas and everything, you
can live in an ivory tower and everything is marble
and hardwood, and you got and you got. He just
signed an extension three years, one hundred and ninety three million.
Now he still got had two years left, this year,
another year and then the one ninety three kicks in.
And to adopt the mindset, I'm flat ass broke. That

(20:27):
was the mindset I had. I wasn't making a whole
lot of money, but even when I made money, I
wanted them to say, Man, we're underpaying them.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
We got a bargain. Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Everybody doesn't think like that, oh Joe. And so it
takes a special type of person to just get money
and still work as if they're broke destitute.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
So and you already you know it. And it's funny
thing when you say that that's already in you. Yes, you,
and that just happened once you get it. You know what,
I'm gonna pretend like I ain't got no money. I'm
gonna continue to to train and approach my craft and
my game. And if I ain't got it, So it
wasn't even before you got the money, and definitely gonna

(21:07):
he ain't gonna be no life switch to kick on
once you make it. Nope.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
And so that's why you look at the Floyd Mayweather,
after all those titles that get money, he's still going
after they get it.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
You look at some of the boxers.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Look at Buster Douglas, he knocked out Mike Tyson, got
in great shape to beat Mike Tyson, get twenty five
thirty five million dollars to fight holy Field.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So you you you, you can see. That's why I
have a great appreciation. You should have a great appreciation also.
And being a former athlete and no one coming from
the trenches getting it out the mud, getting it out
of the concrete jungle, You're have a greater appreciation for guys.
Lebron has got that. Look at what Lebron is accomplished.
Now he's currently playing and he's worth one point two

(21:53):
one point three billion, but everybody talks about what he
puts in. He gets to the arena five hours earlier,
he does all this stuff. He gets his shoot around,
he gets to the cold tub, he gets stretched, he
gets his lift there. He's still doing this twenty two
years in the league. Remember I said greatness is monotonous,

(22:14):
it's boring. What's great about that? He owned the bus,
he in the hotels. Boom boom boom, Mike Massius doing
all this. That's what I tell people. People think, I
wish you could have a conversation, because I did have
a conversation with Jeff Bezos. I met him a couple
of times, and to hear hear him talk that not

(22:36):
at one point in time did he mention any part.
Now maybe now you work two hundred and thirty billion,
But at no point in time when he was building
this was it glamorous because it was a grind, because
it was monotonous, because it was boring.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, listen, listen to who is that Larry Ellison?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Look at Bill Gates, Look at Warren Buffett, look at
these guys. Uh uh, Mark Zuckerberg, look at these guys
that have built things of a crew. Now, look, guys,
if y'all just want to note if I'm not I'm
not talking about I'm not talking about you know, I'm
just saying I'm looking at it from a standpoint of
being great, and I think Joel and b wanted to
be great, and he can have an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know if he'll ever. I don't want to
say ever.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
But it's so hard, Oh Joe, He's getting older and
every body is failing him more because once upon a time,
you know, when you when we first started, oh till
you've never been injured. But I could bounce back, I
get a nick, I could bounce back. At the end
of the week, I'm ready to go. Then all of
a sudden. What an injury that would have me bounce
back at the end of the week. Now, all of
a sudden, I miss a game, and then all of

(23:44):
a sudden, I miss four games. Next thing, you know,
I missed the whole season. As I got older, my
body couldn't recover. Hey, we could play when you young,
o Joe, your first two three years.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Hey play Sunday, play Thursday.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Good?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Hey, you want to beat me to play another When
to play another game on Monday night? Let's rock and roll.
Then all of a sudden, I gotta get in the
cold tub before practice, Gotta get in the cold tub
again after practice, come early in the morning and getting
the cold tub.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's just, you know, he's played just thirty nine games.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
He played thirty nine games last season after tearing the
meniscus and is e knee. This season, the lingering knee
issues combined with a foot spring have caused them to
play just nineteen of fifty six games.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Because what happens, O Joe.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you get a flat tire and you continually drive
that car on that flat tire, it just don't mess
up the rim and the roader on that side.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
It if up your alignment.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, because you're trying to compensate every thebody is meant
to work in unison in sequence, just like your body. Hey,
you start having knee issues, before long, you're gonna have
hip problem, you gonna have back problem, You're gonna have
feet foot problems.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's just the way it is. And because you're dealing
with a man his size with knee.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Problems, yeah, that's bad. So listen, what were the expectation
for the Sixers coming into the season.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Boy, they're supposed to they supposed to. They supposed to
challenge the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
You got Jorlen Bed, you got Tyree's Maxick, and you
just gave Paul Georgia max contract.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So you got three guys. Maxie was an all star,
we know what.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Joelen Beid, a former MVP, finished runn up to Nicoleon
Jokics led the league ins Corey. Why Paul George we
know a he was supposed to be that third and
Miss of Peace. So the expectations were through the roof.
It was supposed to be Boston, the Calves, the Knicks,
and the and the Sixers. Those were supposed to be

(25:38):
the team that duke it out or an opportunity, are.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
They Are they even in conting No, even.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Though hey they might go ahead and go ahead and
tank for Cooper Flag or that kid from Auburn or something,
it's over for them.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But then at that point then I think it is
okay for for EBAD to shut it down. Yeah, I
think it's I think it's okay, especially at this point
if you're only hurting yourself, if anything, you know, you
just you just tore your ministians. You're coming back. Now
you have a foot spray. That's that's injury on top
of injury. So all you're gonna do is make it worse. Yes,
are you gonna make it? It's like it's like getting

(26:11):
the flat tire. You put air back in it and
instead of getting a new tire, you just plug it.
At some point they're gonna go flat again.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Walk around with a rocky issue, put a little rocky,
put a little rocky your shoe and walk.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Around with it. Now you're aggravating.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Guess you ain't gonna put no pressure on that thing
because you don't want to feel that thing. Now watch
it hip on the other side, watching what they do,
Watch what you need in your back do because you're
overcompensating because the body gonna compensate.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's what the body does, and then gifts and it's like, hey, at.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Some point, Tiedy like you know what, you won't stop
and get this rock out, I'm gonna sit you down.
Ye man, Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. So you're looking
at it right now. The Washington the Wizards are nineteen
forty seven, the Pelicans of fourteen and forty three, Utah
fourteen and forty two, Charlotte fourteen and forty one, Toronto

(27:06):
eighteen and thirty nine. The seventy six ers have the
sixth worst record at twenty and thirty six. They've lost
seventh straight and last nine games they're one and nine.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Excuse me, the last ten games they're one and nine.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, goddamn. He should have been set it down or
shut it down. He should have shut it down at
the All Star Great.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
So right now they should theoretically, but you know how
the lottery is. I mean, just because you got the
sixth worst record, that don't mean you're gonna get the
sixth pick in the draft. They could get the number
one pick, they could get they could be at the
bottom of a lot of Richards like fourteen to fifteen.
Don't know, but I just think the thing is, at
this point in time, you're not going to win a

(27:47):
tight even if Jordan Bee comes back healthy, which he's not,
Just go.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Ahead and shut him down.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Just go ahead and shut it down and give him
so now he has March, April, May, in July, all
of September to have this procedure and try and get
back healthy for next year. Says okay, but at the
rate is going, I don't really see a scenario when
you Joel and Be finish his career in seventy six ers.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
And you know what's gonna happenna. It works just the
way sports works. Sometimes, I think they're gonna make him
I'm not gonna call it a mistake. They're going to
remove himself from having to deal with the bead and
the injuries and the injury history. And you know, he's
gonna go somewhere else. Ain't gonna be gonna be all world,
He's gonna be all where, he gonna be healthy, He's

(28:36):
gonna be fine. I guarantee it. It happens all the time.
I've seen it happen multiple times. You know, if a
player was on a specific team. Uh, he was very
good at what he does, but due to injuries, it
didn't allow him to reach his full potential with that
specific team. He goes somewhere else after getting surgery and
the offseason, having enough time to get healthy, and plays

(28:57):
lights out and reaches the potent so that he should
have at a whole other team. I guarantee what's gonna happen.
I hope that's the case.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
San Antonio head coaching Hall of Famer Greg Popovitch is
not expected to return this season and its future is
uncertain as he recovers from a mild stroke something in November.
Sean added during the appearance on the ESPN NBA Countdown
that pop is getting stronger and stronger in his rehalb.
The news came two days after Spurs announced that Winby

(29:26):
would be would be shut down for the rest of
the season after being diagnosed with a dvt T deep
thing from bosis and its right shoulder. Everybody you notice
on Joe, every when somebody else has a procedure, it's
always mild, a mild stroke. You notice it's never mild,
It's never minor surgery. When it's on you man, I'm

(29:49):
about to have surgery. Oh you're getting scold boy A.
It's minor. Everything is minor or mild as long as
it's on somebody else. Yeah, when it's on you, it's
made basis. Yeah, we know what great Popovich is. We
know who he is. We know what he is. He's
one of the greatest coaches in NBA history. Some says,

(30:09):
based on what he's been able to do in the
time in which he was able to do it, he
might be one or two. We know coach coach all
back what he was able to do with the Celtics
in the sixties. Phil Jackson has eleven titles and pop
same team, same system, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu

(30:32):
basically and then at the tail end they got Kawhi.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
But uh, it's said speedy recovery coach.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
We get you back on the sideline, mean mother and
reporters asking them why they asking you them questions?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
You're watching the game, right, oh man?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But like I said, I didn't expect him to return
Ojo right, Milestroke doesn't matter. Uh, that's something serious. My
grandmother suffered from one of those, and uh, you know
you gotta learn obviously to degree how bad, how severe
it is.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
But you know she had to learn how to you know.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Walk again and move up, you know, because normally one
side of the brand and fixed the opposite side of
the body.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
So you have to relearn all that stuff again.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
And now I'm saying she's getting the coach, pop, I
can assure you it's getting the best pet possible.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Uh, he's probably getting pt multiple times a day. But uh, coach,
you get well soon, sir. You and Winby, y'all got
something special growing down there with Stephan Castle. They got
they got a nice little squad brewing down there. Oh Jo,
they really do. I like Vassal huh. Oh yeah, they
got they got d Fox now Darren Fox, they got Castle,

(31:44):
they got Vassal. Uh, they got Keldon Johnson coming off
the bench. Cps is you know, gives them great leadership.
And then you know they got with me, they got
that that alien seven four, can shoot the three, put
the ball on the floor, can post stuff. You can
do a lot of different things. Me personally, I think
he shoots a little bit too many threes. He's one
of the great He's already one of the great defenders.

(32:04):
In NBA history. So they got something special brewing. Now
they just need Pop to come back, get WM be healthy,
and let's see what this thing looks like in the
next two to three years.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Nikola Jokic, who was famously.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Drafted in the middle of a Taco Bell kick case
so rita commercial. He finally spoke about that. He admitted,
I never had Taco Bell just because of that. Well,
he never had Bell because he was drafted. They were
then commercial when he was drafted, So he was in
the second round. He was the sixtieth pick. Once you

(32:40):
get passed, basically, once you get past one through fifteen,
you know, people all of a sudden they go into
the bathroom going to get bear.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
They you know, if they have draft parties or whatever
they came may be.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
So you know, damn well, it's not like the NBA, OJO,
I mean the NFL, where you know you got good pick,
you know, the second round, third round, some guys are
all Americans. Then going into the second and third round
you kind of tuned in a little bit more than
basketball once you get past that one through fifteen. Yeah,
he was sixtieth, so he's in the second round. They

(33:10):
did you gona go to show you they was in
commercial sixtieth Yes, three time league MVP Finals MVP, one
of the great players in NBA history, was the second round.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Pick and asked what was wrong with his footage? Was
it that bad?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It was out of shape? He was he and like
I said, if you look at him and hear the thing,
you judge. They judged the book by its cover. Had
a had he had a three inch vertical? You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
He was a little out of shape.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
They took youself, Nurkic, in the first round because he
was drafted.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
He was drafted by the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
So was you self, Nurkic, Nirkic, you went in the
first round if I'm not mistaken, But.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm sure he could shoot the ball as efficient as
he is right now, even with a three vertical. I'm
sure he could shoot the ball before he even got drafted.
He was that They had to seem the potential.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
If they didn't see he was forty first pick? What
was what was Drake?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Nothing in that same draft right right? What was what
was yo? Forty first or sixtieth? He was the sixtieth pick.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Chad L S O t. He was not forty first.
They said forty first, thirty first. Ask ashby giving me
some wrong information. He was the forties forty first pick
in the draft. I mean, which is eleven picks after

(34:49):
the first round, after the first round, because there's thirty teams,
so one through thirty is the first round. So he
went eleven picks into the second round. Draymond Green was
a second to second day pick. But is that a
bad thing.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's not a bad thing, especially once you once you
blossom into what you should be.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
But it just goes to show O Joe, some things
you just can't see. Everything is measurable. How high can
you jump? How fast can you run? How can you
do this? There are certain things. He's never gonna win
anything with his T shirt off and jumping and dunking
and doing all that.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
He ain't gonna do nothing right, right, He's not. But
put the ball in his hand.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh yeah, he come to play. Now.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
There are certain guys in the NFL. We've all seen it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
We've seen guys go to the carbine, jump through the roof,
touch the ceiling the RC eight dome. We've seen guys
run four to two, run four three. We've seen guys
bitch Frence thirty five, forty times. You put him in
that structured environment, it's there.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
No show.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Couldn't play dead in a horror movie, look like Tarsan,
play like Jane. You don't know no rhyme or reason,
o Joe, because some things you can measure. You can't
measure everything. What's inside of it? What makes him tick?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
What makes him? What makes a guy chick? Where did
he come from? How did he grow up? Is he
hungry now? Because there are a lot of guys hungry
that just refuse to eat. But I need a guy hungry.
I'm talking about starving. That's why. If I don't get this,
guess with oo. If I don't get this, my mom
ain't gonna eat. If I don't get this, my grain

(36:27):
ain't gonna eat. If I don't get this, my kids,
I got a choice. Your grandma, my grandma, My grandma
gonna eat your mom, my mom, my mom gonna eat?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Your kids? Are my kids?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
My kids gonna my kids gonna eat.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's the way I look at it, Oho, That's the
way I approach it.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
See now you see now you're talking about my kind
of mentality right there, you hear me, that's my kind
of that's my mentality. Now you understand a lot of
people call me crazy. Now now, so think about this right,
check y'all stay with me for a second. Think about
this right. Think about your kids behind you, all your
kids right behind right, yeah, your grandma right and and

(37:06):
you in front of your kids and your grandma, your mama.
And let's say James Harrison is right there trying to
get your family. What's gonna happen? Run y'all, run, see
come on, See, that's that's my mentality. You understand me. Huh,
My kids behind me all fifty level mom, and I'm

(37:27):
in front of them, and James trying to get to
my kids. That means I got to protect my family.
So it's that mindset. I'm going into fighting him with
great understanding that the bigger they are, the harder they fall. Okay,
and that's what's gonna happen. And I just wanted to
use that analogy. I didn't need to go.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Off topic, but I'm just you know, listen, guys, y'all
making my point. See that's right. It's intangibles. Intangibles is
what you can't measure. They're measuring his height, they're measuring
his speed, they're measuring how high he can jump. That's
the point, thank you. What is it that you cannot see?

(38:05):
What is it that you cannot measure, which is what's
inside of an individual?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Can't that's the difference. Yes, we know.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
But when you have a guy that have all those
measurables and he has a burning desire that's inside of
him Todda, you get Lebron James, you get a Michael Jordan,
you get a Kobe, you get a Deon Sanders, you
get a Lawrence Taylor. You get those guys, guys that
are supremely gifted and have a burning desire to be great,

(38:47):
an unquenchable desire.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
And even when they.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Climb to the top, they don't admire the view from
the top. They find another thing, They find another summit
to scale. See, it wasn't good enough for Michael Jordan
and Rick of the Year, I gotta do more. It
wasn't good enough for him to be an MVP. I
need to do more. I need to win finals MVP.
I need to win the title. Same thing Lebron. I

(39:15):
need to be a defensive player of the year. I
need to be. I need to be an all NBA player.
I need to be universally regarding as the best. The
de facto. That's what these guys got.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
You see. Tom Brady ain't got no got no.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Vegeables, can't may you doing random worst forty had the
worst looking body.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
But what was in here and what's up in there?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
And it wasn't like he got a fifty Ryan Fitzpatrick,
I think Pat mcannally might have got the highest school.
I think Pat McAnally got like a forty nine or fifty.
Ryan Fitzpatrick got like a forty eight forty nine on
the wonder leg out of a fifty. Yeah, I got
what I got. But guess what, No, Jared ran four

(40:08):
to six. Jared didnt run him four five. He ran
a four or five when he had the ball in
his hands. But that's not what he ready to combine. Yeah,
Pat mconnett, Yeah, and both guys played at Cincinnati. Y'all
get some smart ones. I don't know what happened once
they get there. The man got a fifty, And if

(40:30):
I'm not mistaken, I think Pat mcandela might be the
only guy who's ever gotten fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You got perfect. Huh, yeah, yeah, I was, man, I
was so close.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Hey, speaking of Mike Mamula Boston College. Oh Joe got
a forty nine on the one the leg goes there
like two sixty runs, four or five border vernicle that's
out of standing long your white.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Leven feet everything.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Could he play?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
They said about the recess about five times a day.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Still couldn't play another guy, Burnond Golston had all those measurables.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Hey, Ohio State, go back and look it up.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Look at it looked like a Greek god.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Couldn't play.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
You don't. There is no rhyme or reason, O Joe
that you look at somebody like can't miss. He's a
can't miss. Ain't no such thing as can't There's no
such thing as all of every But you know you
put this like, man ain't no way, bro. I'm like,
look like that, Bro, you got to be able to
do something. Ain't going by the eye tests, and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Oh Joe. He was amazing in college.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, and college enter prose is completely different, whether whether
people believe it or not. Yeah, completely different ball game. Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
The Celtics had a little bit of a run, had
a little fun with Jaylen Brown quizzing him on musicians
new and old.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
He did not pass with flying colors. Oh Joe, let's
take a look at this. See then, let me see that.
Let me see this. I might get some wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You see.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Is that right? That's missing? That's I see that should.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Not you clearly, y'all.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Damn you listen to it's a lesson lessen.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
One part. Okay, I'm definitely getting that one.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Hey, I like I like that. I like that. That
that's dope.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's dope.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
And you'd be surprised how many how many professional athletes
don't know you know, artists, you know, whether they're famous
or not. Likewise, yeah, they're not really call you based
on facial recognition, you know, they know unless you are
one of the leads at at what it is you do.
I mean, there is a few people on there. I'm
not gonna lie I didn't know who they were.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, I mean, okay, I was that. I was there
last night.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You saw people you ain't know.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Look, I know more people than Jordan's nobody. Hey he'll
know nobody. Hey, hey, hey, hey both that in that
in that matter VP, Yeah, Jorge, you just saw that
Tod B.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Hold on, I got a question, you know, being in
something like the na A CP Awards, was there anybody
you were excited to see or might have been a
little starstruck that you hadn't had a chance to meet before.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
For the most part on show, I had pretty much
met a lot of them. I've met in Taraji before.
Uh I was in I've seen I met Gabrielle obviously, uh,
Keithy and I, you know, uh not not really.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Damon Williams, I hadn't met him. I hadn't met Marlin.
That's that's about it. That's about it.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
That that I was like, okay, cut, It's always nice
to be somewhere and finally put.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
A name to a fact, like, okay, that's okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Because sometimes you see them, but they're like they don't
look like them look on television, and I'm like, they
either they smaller right they want to think, or they're
a little larger, a little taller than what you would think.
And so that's like and so it's always it's great
to like to see people and then be in that environment.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I'm going to oh you know I was supposed yeah, man,
because you ain't gonna believe me. Yeah, I met a Dale,
I've met and beyond men Beyonce and and and hole.
But that's about it.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Trying to dope anybody, ask anybody asking by me awards?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Now, yes, yes they do. They man, what what you're at?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Said?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I said, don't tell you what your crazy? I said,
tell me something that I don't know. That's me, that's me,
that's me.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But it's.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Oh, it must be your food. You order some food.
Oh uh, But no, I wouldn't have a lot of
those like like oh yoa I did. I hosted the the.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Day the Emmy Awards, right man, even as much as
I studied, right man, the people walking by, but then
you know, that'd be they're they're in your ear, that's
such and such, that's such and such because they didn't
walk home by.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Lost damn for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Because that was it was like.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Now you got all these shows on Netflix, and you
got all these other shows on Amazon, and you got
all these shows. So it's just not like when you
and I grew up them everybody was on ABC, CBS, NBC.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Now you got like twelve like that please and then
trying to pronounce their name. I said, now you're gonna
hit that name. I'm good, I'm gonna do the talking,
but you get that name. So yeah, it was for
we had far last night. Oh Joe, we had a
great time. Oh yo, check this out. Hooters announced bankruptcy yesterday,

(47:20):
much to the sadness of a few NBA players. Kevin
Love posting on Instagram a photo of himself at Hooters
when he was younger, with the caption.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
And you can see I was swimming. I was swimming
at it back then.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Sadness. See the fall of an absolute institution. If anyone
can save it, Instituto on the table. Next slide, Who do.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
You got.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Kevin Lord? He got Kevin, he got Katie at book? Hey,
that's fun back, that's a good because book Book said, book.
Please don't go hoot at Hooters. You ever you ever
had their wings?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Oh yeah, I should go to Hoolies back in the day,
and now I'll never forget now now ever since twin
Peaks came about, obviously, when I'm in Miami, uh anytime.
I don't frequent Atlanta often, but a few times I
have been in Atlanta, which I can count on two hands,
even after all these years. Hey, I like Hooters, but
I prefer Twin Peaks better. My first pis better. It's

(48:26):
I don't know if it's the food, but the fact
that I can sit in the patio, I can smoke.
They always have my soccer games.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Yeah, you know how much I love soccer on.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
They have my soccer games on at Twin Peaks and
Pines Twin Peaks in Darrell.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
They make my coffee for me.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
You know, I get my cafic on next year, I
get my latte and just it's It's something Hooters have
never been able to to, uh to do for me
outside of going to eat the food.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
You know. The stop better Wings wings stopping Hooters.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Probably Wingstop. Wings Stop has the variety of wings you
can choose from already different flavors. I said, wing Stop
got by forty different flavors they got. I don't want
no sauce on my avenue. If I were to get salce,
I'm probably gonna get limon pepper. But for the most part,
I don't want no sauce. I don't want no buffalo sauce.
I don't want no hot I don't want anything. Just
just give me wings. Yeah, flats, Yeah, if I'm getting

(49:17):
to duble wings. Give me ten flats and two drum ads?
Is it two drums?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah? Okay, that's about right. Too. It's too it's too too, too,
too difficult. Yeah, I like that. Oh, tell you're gonna mishooters.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Listen, I'm not evenna see a lot to you. I
ain't been no Hooters in so long. I told you
ever since I learned about twin Peas. But I ain't
been no Hooters in years.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I don't even listen.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Hooters right there on twenty seventh Avenue, twenty seventh Avenue. Uh,
right right off, yeah, right off, right, right off of pans,
right off a pant for me, I think something like that. Man,
I go right into Peaks. I'm not I'm not gonna
lie to you. I'm not gonna just just twin Peaks
has more to offer aesthetically, No, I look straight ahead

(50:07):
by using them a perfeal vision if you understand what them.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, I think I think, oh jo, I think that's
what it was. It was iconic.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
It was those T shirts, yes, crop and it was
the orange shorts right, and I think that that that
was the allure of it.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yes, it's fast food.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I mean look, you're not going there expecting to get
a five course meal something that, oh my god, this
is the best whatever whatever, whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
But it was it was. It was the view. It
was the amio. You got to go with your buddies
and you watch sporting events, things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Sir.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
If it is to close, I mean how long woul
they opened? They had to be opened about forty years?
Forty fifty years? I mean, hell, it was when I
was a kid. It was, yeah, hey, young, you are young.
You've been when you down in Atlanta. You ain't been
to the Twin Peaks in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Uh huh? And they got so forty two years? Okay, no,
oh your man, looking, bro. I check it out.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Listen sporting event. When sporting games on, boxing matches, m
and a basketball, I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I only go there for soccer.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You know, they have me my EPL games on. You know,
I want to watch LA League. I want to watch
Champions League. I go right in pines. I go right
there in the round. Man, it's perfect. The food phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, the thing is for me, I'm trying to watch
because I'm probably gonna have to critique or analyze these games.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I need to be able to focus.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Okay, okay, you know, especially football, man, what do you
think without a holding? Should they have called that? You
like that?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Man, I'm trying to watch the game, man.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Okay, O Joe, Okay, yeah, you're right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I mean I stopped. I don't stop wearing hairphones. I'll
be a the airport. They take my hairphones all they
take me, ask me asking me, did you just take
your hair.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
For Yeah, he took them off and asked your question,
whoa whoa whoa whoa? Hold on? Somebody actually put your
headphones on all the time?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
What you mean somebody all the time?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
So hey, I can't imagine that, but I know you
you be ready to snap. Ma.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I was like, I mean, I mean sometimes I do
wish I got the grace that other people that had
headphones on were walking through the airport or whatever at
the gym and they didn't get tapped on the shoulder
or they didn't get the headphones lifted off the ear.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
But you know the situation like that, O Yoe, you
know you have to be on all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I mean, we can celebs and entertainers and athletes, we
never get to have an off day.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
We got to be on all the time. Yes, that's
that's sad. Because we are human.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Money doesn't make you from doesn't exempt you from human
experiences sadness, disappointment, anger, frustration, happiness.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, it is what it is. So Joe, you know,
you keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
And because I ain't spending no money, no brivage yet
now we're getting places. Hey, Speaking of jets and speaking
of airplanes in general, you know, there have been a
lot of situations, a lot of a lot of airlines
having unfortunate circumstances, you know, Aeriel, you know, I don't

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want to say it, you know, falling out the air,
having incidents, you know, tumpling over, doing flips on the
wrong lady. You know, airline hasn't had any issues.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
On what airline spirit they've been grounded, you know, airline
hasn't had any issue in chat none at all.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Now listen, now, we might we might fight. We might
fight on the plane.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Oh you what you mean?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Might they stay stay with me? Now, we might fight
on the plane. You might have our receptionists cut you out. Yeah,
that might happen. But one thing about it, we're gonna
get you where you gotta get to, and we're gonna
get you back home safe. The We have no issues.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
We're gonna get you.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
We might fight, you know, we might talk a little bit.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
You do realize that movie soul Plaine was based on spirit. Hey, hey,
you know that you know the soul plane.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Get from point A to point B, right, listen, It
might it might be a little chaos, It might be
a little turmoil on the way to your trip.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
But when you're falling outside, all right, oh Joe, here
we go. This is what had been eating up the
chat and everybody been wanting to talk about it. The
most requested topic of the night Steve Smith affair with
another man's wife. First, the Facebook post appeared that was
clearly written by the husband. I mean, you guys can

(54:44):
see it. It's like, Hey, I'm I'm the Cole Martinez,
though I won't be Martinez much longer. As you see,
I've been cheating on my husband and been doing so
with the very famous Steve Smith senior pitch attached for reference.
I had hidden under three but that's been fixed. My
husband brought me a house. He stood by my side
after I've been arrested twice for domestic violence, and this

(55:06):
is how I repay him and our son. Three's plenty
of messages here, Steve crazy, the kind of revealing messages
a celebrity will send. Baltimore Ravens. I'm also a member
of your team band. I believe I violated some fragnization
rules by hooking up with Steve at the training facility.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Oh Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
That when this happened. But I've been I've been out
here in the Bahama side.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Hold on, O Joe. And then the husband calls Smitty
and posted the video.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Now, I don't know if there's some kind of like,
don't you have to record someone? Don't you have to
have this state by state? And in Vegas it's only
one party. So the party that's recording they know it.
The other party don't. California if I thank you for
if a two state. But anyway, Ojo, the husband calls
Smitty and posted the video. Let's take a listen. What

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what was said?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Hey yo, Steve?

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Yeah, even my wife, Bro, what you gotta say for yourself?
I'm sorry, You're sorry?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
H m hm, Well listen said he sorry? He said
he sorry. I'm now listen. This, This is what you
don't do. This is what is as a as a
as a as a man. Understanding you know that's my wife,

(56:49):
uh girlfriend, someone you're seeing, someone you're talking to. You
never confront the individual because Steve smiths he owes you
no loyalty, Steve Smith, they married you, bro, she's not married.
Steven's not married to you. You talk to your wife,
you check your wife. And that goes for any and everybody.
I know a lot of people. You want to crash
out about your women and all that stuff, or your man.

(57:11):
You can listen. It goes. It goes both ways. It
always comes down to me again, Understand who you're marrying.
Understand understand human nature. Human nature is undefeated. I'm gonna
say that as well. I don't care how people come off.
I don't care how innocent they may seem. I don't
care how much they say they love you. When certain

(57:34):
opportunities present themselves, they gonna go. When certain opportunities with
certain individuals that are convenient and they feel they can
get away with it, they're going to go. I don't
care how much love there is. I don't care how
much money you got. It doesn't matter, Understand who you're

(57:55):
dealing with, and move accordingly. I mean, I say I
say it all the time. I say it all the time. Listen,
had a family, kids, husband, he doing everything, he's doing this,
and you upset. There's no reason to call Steve. That's
not doing nothing. You take that up with the You
take that up with the wife, you take it up
with the missus.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Well, I think the thing is what.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
The gentleman was doing, is that like, Okay, if I'm
gonna get a divorce, I'm gonna try to miss your
happy heal your home up. Also, that's what this was about.
I ain't answer. First of all, that is my mo.
That's not me.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
You married, Oh, this ain't nothing. Is something you know
what you ain't. No, don't just keep it the buck
with me. You married. And I'm a firm believe in this.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
A man might not want his wife, but the moment
another man shows interest, all of a sudden, it gets rekindled.
And like you just said at the top, people are
crash out about certain situations that crime of passion and
juries are very sympathetic. They're very sympathetic in situations like

(59:11):
this crime of passion. Leave it alone. Guys, if you
if they're married, you let it go. Smitty, My god,
I know I've known Smitty twenty years. Great just saw hey,
he just was that. But he was just at my
party at the super Bowl. Had a great conversation with him,

(59:33):
had a great conversation with him. I love the guy,
hard knowed the way he played X, Y and Z.
But bro, you need to take that up with your wife. Yeah,
Smitty owes you no loyalty. He's under no obligation. Now
he's gonna have to.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Deal with the issue at home his own, on his own,
his own situation.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
But this, this, I don't know. I don't know the
gentleman name. That's the situation. You got to talent with
your wife. She she ain't has the loyalty clause. She's
the one that has an obligation to you, to you
Coato Joe, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Got him been around too long, man, haven't been around
too long, too much experience. It ain't even worth it.
It ain't even it ain't even worth it. You know,
I'm not I'm not even talking about Smithy's part. You know,
I love love Smitty. You know, me and Smitty go
way back to Cintamonica I forget the smitty part. I'm
just talking about the individual who's married to the young lady.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
And you know what time it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
You see something like that, you're going bay your business,
and this ain't the first time. The signs had to
be there. The signs had to be there. Something like
this doesn't just happened all of a sudden. Oh my god,
Oh my goodness. I'm going through I go through my
white phone and all of a sudden she's sleeping with
somebody else. No, it hasn't happening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
They need you're releasing texts me just they'd be lame man, cat, cat,
get pack your bag and start that over.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
You know what time it was, you know what, you
know what you're married, understand what you're marrying. And even
and even if you got your good girl, I wouldn't know.
I'll never forget. I never forget. A very wise man
once told me, depending on the circumstance and opportunity, whoever

(01:01:30):
you're dealing with will take the chance. If they know
you won't find out, they will take the chance. Depending
on who it is, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
But you just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Oh yo, but I'm listened. No matter what I'm not
calling no one about someone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Hold on, you think I'm embarrassed by you think I'm
embarrassed myself?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Could man, I had? I had?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I bet I had, old boy? Could that that's happened
to me? That's happened to me? Dude, confront me. Oh,
you ain't got no issue with her? How do you
think I got here right? How you think I knew
what she stayed?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Mm hmmm. You ain't say that in your mind. You
ain't say you ain't say that. You just you mean
in your mind you're saying. I understand what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
I wanted, I wanted to whip it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
No, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
But he was a teammate, Okay, God damn, I didn't know, Yoe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
No, you ain't no, no, bro, if you were burned,
if time boy, oh Yoe, no, if you weren't Keith
burned when you were with the Broncos, I didn't know
what the hell you were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Once I found once I found out, right, I'm cool, Yeah,
because I don't. I don't want it to become an issue.
Once I found out, I'm good. You good, you got
me hey you do, Hey, bro, my bad. Okay, once
I find okay three times, you know, don't you three time?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
You don't three times?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
But he was the animal work guy. Okay, I said, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Don't try to just lead, oh choke, you don't think ohoe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
When the club got the cool, how many people say
okay the club clothing, They get up and start walking out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
They linger around, They're like, hey, let me get another drink.
Bought tender you dona fly?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I had to linger around, hey, right, I just say understand, Hey,
that's that's why you know when it happened once? When
it when it happened once, or you might pack your
bags and go. I don't know what you what's you
arguing for?

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
What you fussing?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Text? But one, it's not gonna stop because once you once,
you're gonna do it again. It ain't like a light
switch hit on and all of a sudden, you know what, Oh,
I ain't gonna do this no more anger Na. That's
that's exactly who Once someone shows you, when.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Somebody show you who we are, that's what it is. Yeah,
I mean, man, like I said, I didn't know. I
didn't know until he rolled up on it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I told you the story, won't you how to do
roll up on us?

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, yeah, you was on demon time no one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
But now now that I think about it, in order
for him to find out where we were, he had
she had to have taken him there too. Ah, because
ain't no way, ain't no way. I'm just gonna you
just gonna go somewhere and all of a sudden, you
know what, they might be here because he wasn't from
there and I wasn't from there, And for him to

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go to that spot, she.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Has had to have gone there before. See you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
You know what that tell me? She done took more
than just you two there as well too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
They ain't gonna do with me, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I'm just I'm just saying that song. I don't care
about the mother man, Just be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Good to me. They got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
What you did, what you did before Shamming, what you
do after Shalmon.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
But you know it does have to do with you.
What you do while you wish.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Truth, that's what truth.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I would let that go. Hey, I ain't fit. Look,
I ain't finna hold you. Clearly, that's what you want
to be with. That's where you want to be at him,
and let you go ahead and do that. Yeah, hey man, man,
what look, Yes, a lot of behavior is just like
it's just like animals.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Once and I drew up on a farm. Once we
had a hog and that joker got out. Yeah, my
grandfather wasn gonna keep hi much longer because he already
knows what it's like I'm outside. So no matter how
much feed and slop you gave him on the inside,
he knows it's something out there and he needs to
get to it. So once they started getting out, it

(01:05:46):
wasn't long before my grandfather will dance up in the
truck and take him to the market. Once they get outside,
on Joe, just like just like a dog, let a
dog break out, especially if he or she is an
attack right one or two things, you either go get
that fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You're not gonna be able to keep him in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Now. I ain't telling what somebody told you. I'm telling
you what I know. You're talking about somebody that grew
up on a farm that had hogs, that had dogs.
I'm telling you and I look, look, I'm not saying
I'm just saying the behavior I ain't calling no woman,
no dog and no hog or nothing like that. I'm
just saying the behavior. Humans are animals, and they have

(01:06:28):
very very similar behavior. A lot of times territory animals
mark their territory. They're kicking. If you notice a dog
go poop, he'll kick it. He he got thick glads
in his palls in the back. He let them know, hey,
big dog here, Now, don't let me catch over here.
I'm gonna do something bad to you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Hey, hey, you know what, I think it's funny when
you think about the experience. I think that the chat
there's a huge disconnec I can not understanding the amount
of all right, how do I say this without getting
in trouble. The chat has a huge disconnect. They don't
want to say the amount of women we've dealt with

(01:07:12):
during those days. Now, I'm not gonna say it. I
don't fuck who I get in trouble with, especially right now.
You don't understand the amount of women I've dealt with
during that day. You know, i'ing about twenty twenty five
years worth. So I know what it looks like what
buddy going through. I've been on one end of the
spectrum and I've been on the other side of this,

(01:07:35):
but I've been number two way more times than i've
been number one. So I know the game, I know
the tricks, I know the trade and like at that point,
so you become numb to it. As soon as you
see any signs boom. Okay, you know what time it is,
you lock in and you move accordingly. It's really easy
through experience over time. That's why that's for me. I'm

(01:07:59):
just saying for me, that's why it's so easy. I
always tell you, that's why I always tell you, I
see one thing wrong, boom, It's easy for me to
be able to compartmentalize and know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I'm dealing with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Oh look, and I think the thing is a lot
of times men and women are not as forthcoming as
they as they need to be. My grandfather used to
always say, he say, boy, everybody has somebody. It's just
the what extent, A wife, a significant other, a girlfriend,
maybe you see them casually. The likelihood that you finding

(01:08:32):
somebody scot free. Now, even if you find somebody, she
or he's seeing somebody and they might be willing to cut,
it's easy for them to cut it off because it's
not that extensive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Wait a
minute now, I told you this before. This is when
our earlier show was when we first started. Yeah, like
when you meet somebody right and and the women women
in the chat, they can attest to this. You know,
most of the time, the person you're with right now
is really not who you want to be with a person.
The marriages, the women that are married to certain men,

(01:09:03):
you're not to the man you really want to be with.
You're married to your safe You're married to your safe place.
And the one that made the most sense. Women that
have girl mean men that have girlfriend girlfriends right now,
ask your girlfriend. Ask your girlfriend who's the dude that
left that mark in her life that will always have
access to her for the rest of her life. And
see if she tell you the truth. Everybody got one.

(01:09:28):
Every woman has one, no matter who it is. Oh wait,
they all got one. And if she tell you it
isn't everybody everybody in my life, not one, just has
that one place in that one spot. Lie man, I please, Yeah,

(01:09:50):
a dirty game, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
That the mentality, the mentality has changed because women have
adopted a lot of the mentality that a man has.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Man men have that man Italian do boo doo doo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Do you do it? I'm gonna do it too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
And sometimes they go get their lick back, they go
get your best friend, they go get your work, whatever
the case may be, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Your huha mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Oh, no, dame, I know it ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
No, I know that's hers. You can't give you you hey,
that follows you, that's on you, that follows you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I can't keep it. M mmmm. One thing I think
one of one of the things we confuse, especially when
we get in relationships. We get in relationships or even marriages,
like this individual here, we have this this feeling, this
feeling or notion that Okay, that's my property, m ownership,
you know, even even even in relationships, once that title

(01:10:45):
comes about, where men continue to crash out about is
they feel as if they own that woman and her
body and what she's doing with her body parts. At
no point, ever, no matter how much money you pour
into that individual, at no point ever does she belong
to you. Ever, I don't care what she say even
do her horizontal activity when she tell you this is Jo,

(01:11:06):
You know what, it still ain't yours, but at some
point it belonged with somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
It's yours right now. Yeah, that's that's all I'm worried about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
I don't know, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Oh man, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
If you spend a lot of time worried about And
remember I told you, Like when I went to work
and I tell my, I used to tell my, I said,
I can't worry about you. I said, I can't spend
one moment while I'm at work worrying about what you're doing.
Because if I do, I gotta let you go. Hm,
I gotta let you go. If I got to think
about what you're doing where you are, if you're talking
to someone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
I gotta let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
It ain't it don't make no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
On So it's made to put him. I made.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I hate this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Smity got himself in a situation like this, knowing his situation.
But Buddy was wrong for this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
But okay, let's just say when Sam talking out, just
by the way he's moving, just by the way he's moving,
he ain't going awhere. Let's let's start there. He ain't
going nowhere. He ain't going awhere. You know, hell, hell,
he ain't even that type. He don't got what you

(01:12:17):
call him. He done got the woman to hack the
woman of count Listen, ain't nobody going through all that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
That's leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Anybody going through all that? Leaving you ain't do. You
ain't do. You're not doing all that. If you're leaving,
you know what you know, I'm gonna say myself an
embarrassment there you go, just walk away and I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Just walk away.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Ain't nobody gonna know a to A three people gonna
know me and her and the good man of stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Hey, it's a dirty game and it's been that way
for a long time. That's why you gotta learn to
play it. Yeah, you got to learn to play and
foul out with grace.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Yeah, man, he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Heard Joe that that's her. I mean, oh, Joe, just
like you for yourself, by yourself. You know how you
get over hurt, get under somebody else. That's how you
get over hurt, Get under somebody else consistently.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
You will be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You know what I told you that when I said
that you about you ain't gonna heal. I said, you
told me I needed to heal. Well, Listen, different circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
You wasn't married. Yeah, this is definitely always remember chat
you know, write this down, you know, get you no
pad out. She's not yours and this is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Man tried to dive bout. Ain't there some kind of fratnization? Bro,
Stop me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
You ain't no military. Steve Smith is not no, not
not no superior to her. Hey, frightening who fraightnization? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
You don't go on about your business, man, Hey, pack
your bag, start over. Man. It's cool. It's a lot,
it's a lot more idea