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But first, Oh Cho, Tonight, this game wasn't closed. Jackson
Dart did it with his arm and his leg. Scat
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packed with sensational nineteen carries ninety eight yards, three touchdown,
Jackson Dart thirteen carries fifty eight yards another touchdown. They
gained one hundred and seventy two yards on the ground.
Jackson Dart was seventeen or twenty five one ninety five
one touchdown. He was sacked, but he didn't turn the
ball over. And when you can turn them, when you
can take care of the football and you play, you
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have a great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was twenty
four thirty three two eighty three one touchdown. Oh hoe,
what we say about that late ball? If you Layton
inside is.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Going the other way every time?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And it almost did. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They ran the ball twenty times for seventy three yards,
but they ran the Tousch push four times in the
row they got a touchdown on it. Dallas Guardup has
seven catches one hundred and ten yards a touchdown. AJ
Brown has six for eighty. Davonta smil who Jalen hurts
overthrow would have had like a ninety yard touchdown, but
he had four for forty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh Joe. The Giants just the Giants did whatever they
wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Both sides of the ball too at that, and both
sides of the ball at that. For one, I want
to talk about Jackson Dark. I want to say about
good Jackson Dark looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson
started the season for the Giants. But when Jackson Dark
got his opportunity, he came in and closed the door
right behind him.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yep, he's making the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping, he's eluding, he's
using his legs, he's using his arm. His best weapon
went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that
his best weapon offensively outside of the Scatterbo was hurt.
Jackson Dart is a real deal and he's very exciting.
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The combination of him and Scatterbo together it's like two
little kids.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's like two little kids out there on the playground.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yes, you're in the game of football at the highest level,
and it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans as
you can see and you can hear. You know, you watch,
you watch, you watch the game with the sound off,
but just just watching the reaction and the sound of
the Giants.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh they gonna.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I can see the fans when they're paying and the
fans going, I'm sure they're saying, uh bowl like for
scatter Bow. Scott Pack was doing his thing. Jackson Dart,
I'm sure the hell is dark. Look this was look
and we'll get to this, ohoe. Because the Eagles didn't
play well and they got some issues, and we tried
to tell them about the issues that they have. But
you know what, Ojo, but you can't tell Giants fan
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anything because you creak. If I critique a Jaalen hurts,
you don't like black people. You don't say this about
white quarterback. If I critique their team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine,
I should have your undivided attention cause I couldn't get
you attention at first because you was winning. And see
that when you win it you can't get nobody's attention.
Now I should have your undivided attention because you're lost twice. Yes,
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the Giants, they got the makings of a good team.
The only thing that concerns me, o Jo is pressure.
There are times back there that Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
With just sitting there patting the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And two of the three and two of the four
pass rushers was on the ground. They've got to generate
pressure because they don't have a lead on the back end.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And so you should be able.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
When you got d Lawrence, when you got a Thibodeau,
when you got a dual carter. That should be more
than enough to create pressure to create habit, and not nearly.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I forgot Brian Burns. That should be enough, more
than enough to create habit. Not enough. Habit was created tonight.
You won the game.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But in order for you to keep building on this,
you got ten weeks, you got ten days off, you
get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the
Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy because the Yankees
lost last night.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But if you're a Giant, you look at Jackson Dart,
You're like man. He won his first game.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
He was playing really well against the Saints, and then
he started turning the ball over. If we can protect
the ball, I think we might got something. Skat Pack
was doing what Skatpack does. He runs hard. He's looking
to run through as Marshawn Lynch would say, run through
a mofo face, and he runs with authority. He's looking
to deliver a blow. When he blocked, he's blocking all out.
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When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a
couple of cuts early, but hey, allis forgive him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He was a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I thought the Giants offensive line o chhoe when
we talked about that thing with the seal, Hey, he
was just coming to a you're gonna block him.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But they did a ground.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought they did a better job tonight of protecting
Jackson Dark. He did a great job of avoiding the rush.
When he needed to run, he got rid of he
got out of the pocket. When he needed to throw
the ball away, he threw it away. I liked what
I saw from the New York Football Giant. Wandelle Robinson
had himself a game a little John Humphrey. I thought
he made some plays tonight, Joe. But I mean, what
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can we say the Giants? I mean, I don't think
anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game.
But did you go to show you, hey, you take
care of the football and it's a division game, Oh Joe,
it's a robber game, you know, and you throw workers
out the window when you playing a rival.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Now, was definitely definitely, But listen, if you also understand
if you're a betman, if you're a betman, you're definitely
picking the Eels.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, I wonder what the lion, well, what was the
you know, what the lion was out, Joe, No, I
had to be proud to be I'm thinking at least
for four and a half.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Listen, you're going against a rookie quarterback defending Super Bowl champs.
Everybody named Mama probably pok picked the Eagles to actually
win this game. But when you have a quarterback like
Jackson Dart who has been as exciting as he is,
who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten
the starting job, I mean, for those who actually know
and understand the game of a ball and based on
the small sam besides of Jackson Dart, that we've been
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able to see your throw caution to win when you
come to Bedding against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance.
So going forward, you know, I think things are gonna
change a little bit when it comes to watching not
only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
To on them to win a certain game or specific game.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It seems like the line was seven seven and a
half depends on where you was batting, who you was bad,
You know where you're you know what line you took.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I'm confused, O, Joe, Wait before you say anything, let
me get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm confused if what they're doing with AJ Brown. I
watched the man run two unders in a row.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
M M.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm like, is that the only route y'all believe AJ
Brown can run? He run under, he run a little.
They try to run him on like a a little
six seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination
in the routes. I don't see no magic, no no
creativity in the calls.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Look, they running smash concepts. They run, they run, they
run the sale and then they run. They run the
spot what we call a spot route. Or they'll run,
they'll run, they'll run the out and then they'll run
the under. Or Davante will try starting the slot and
he'll run run the fade, or he'll run the smash route.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I mean he'll uh and uh Brown would run the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm like, damn, if I'm jayling, Her said, Man, I'm
tired of run these damn under routes. Give me a dig,
give me a comeback, give me a deep over, give
me something.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Hey run a bank.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah, we ain't got no bangs.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Yeah, I will say they made they made a conscious
effort to give them the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They made a conscious effort to give.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
The ball in the in the first half, and there
was some players that broken down where he was able
to scramble out the pocket and get get the ball
to AJ.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It wasn't many of.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Them, but he had a he had a better better
stat line this this this week.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You know, game seas most yards he's had.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, he had that hundred yard game against the
Rams where they were down about a lot of the half,
and then they came out made a conscious effort like
we got to throw the ball because we can't run
ourselves back in the ball game, and it was like okay.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
AJ.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So he had six for eighty, Dallas Goddard had six,
nine for one ten smid it would have been over
one hundred had Jalen out overthrow and me put a
little bit too much gas up on it. DeVante red
a really good route had him I mean, he could
have walked backwards and gotten too the end zone because
it looked like his defender had fallen down on Joe. Yeah,
when you when when you look at the Eagles, what's
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going on? Clearly clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah, I
don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know,
thirty four to seventeen. It's been a while since the
Eagles lost the game by that And this game wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This game wasn't. I mean, ugh, this thing got on
had quick.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
It did, it did, And I would think some obviously
I think, would start up front in the pieces to
that offensive line being missing. Small holes that you that
you you try to cover up, you know, weak links
that you try to cover up, but you just can't.
There's a reason why Sakuon Barkley isn't being as successful
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in the running game as he was last year because.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He wasn't o Jo. You do that with Ojo? You
thought they were gonna let that man come back and
rush for another two thousand.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best
offensive line in the league.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes, but concerted effort. What did I tell you? If
you're gonna beat me, you're gonna beat me with Jayala
Hurst throwing the football. Oh yeah, because I like my
chances better beating you with him throwing the football than
Saint Kwan Barkley running for one hundred and twenty five
a game.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's really that simple. And that's not a knock. I'm
not gonna let but I'm not gonna let you have
a two way go of it. Now, Sakwan's running. Now
you play action and throw the ball over the top
of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Nah nah nah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If you gonna throw the ball with penport actors and
guess what I'm gonna do, O Joe, I'm gonna leave.
I'm not gonna bring. I'm not gonna drop eight in
the box. I'm not gonna throw one on one. I'm
gonna make you throw through zones. I'm gonna make you
throw the coverage. Now you do that consistently. Okay, I
tip my hat to you. I can live with that,
but I Am not going to let Saquan do what
he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now,
(14:20):
you throw when you want to, You run when you
want to. You got me begging, man throw the ball, man.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Nah hell nah, you gonna beg for something different. Look,
it's early in the season, but clearly something is something
that is a miss with the Eagles. It's hard to
pick right up where you left off, Ojo, and someone
(14:49):
that has been in that situation. You have to you
have to really, you have to really turn your mind
off to like, man, we won the Super Bowl. Yeah
you did that last year. You think these team are
gonna roll over just how you won the Super Bowl?
You're their super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The teams that didn't win the Super Bowl, guess what
when they see your ass on the schedule. Now that
gives us You know what Brian day Ball said, that's
the defending super Bowl champs and we just hung thirty
four on them. You see when we play, we can
beat anybody in this league. That's what they're saying. That's
the Eagles. That's the defending super Bowl champ. So now
(15:26):
teams based there, they based how good they are beat them.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And now you see why.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Now this gives you a better reason why why the
hurts when they ask them about the Super Bowl and
how it feels in the champs Why he throws it
out the door.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
That was last year, Absolutely because he.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Understood how difficult it would be not only repeat, but
they have the same success going into this same way.
Now we're seeing the struggs that they are having being
at their not at full strength.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Especially at the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than
they were last year, and it's a different new offensive
coordinator he had. Things have to evolve offensively. You know,
you can't be too predictable. Last year because the running
game was so efficient, you could, damn there, do what
you want to do exactly, and you can throw it
when you want to. You got to pick your poison
on what you want to do. Now things are a
(16:23):
little different, and now you're going to get to see
the better part of the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They then they got to dig down, don't yo, We
got to dig.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, they could do one of two things. You can
come together and fix it, or things are going to
continue to splinter.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, you're and we're not gonna make no excuses. Oh,
the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me the
Giants had thirty four and the Eagles had seventeen. They
didn't say Eagles one had thirty four and the Eagles
two had seventeen. Right, ain't no beat beat yourself because
see that's the excuses you made last week. That had
man they should have called pass and appearance. That was
a pass and appearance. You see what happens on Joe.
(16:59):
If you if you lose by a little, I can
go back and point the thing. Well, if we had
done this, We had done that. But see when I
beat hell at.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You, what you're gonna say?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So what passed in the affairs that would have made
up seventeen points? What holding call?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Man? They will help?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
They was holding So what holding call would have made
up seventeen points? What did I miss? What off signs?
What penoty that they didn't call? That would have made
up for seventeen points? Poel, I feel bad for my guy.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Gilly's gonna be all right, you know, I know he's
gonna be the only reason I'm saying he gonna be
the only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to
be okay. Yeah, because it's so early in the season.
It's so early now we now we were on the
back of the season. I give you one. If it
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was after Thanksgiving. Things we're looking the way they look now,
I be worried.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'd be worried.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But let me tell you, when you show vulnerability early, yes,
teams like they can be had. That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Now, because you're already gonna get everybody's best shot at
Yoe cause you're the ranging super Bowl champs. Absolutely, you're
gonna get everybody's best. But now they're like, hey, they're vulnerable.
They can be had the ferocity that that defense is
not nearly as vicious as suffocating as it was. That's
a rookie, O Joe. I don't give a damn who
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back there. That is a rookie quarterback and only his
third start. And he did that. He did that, and
he didn't seem bothered by what you were doing on
the back end. He didn't seem flustered, he didn't seem
off kilter. He didn't seem like, man, what are they doing?
I'm seeing ghosts out there. He didn't seem that way
(18:50):
to me. Now, maybe somebody else saw something that I
didn't see, but he looked perfectly fine to me. Hey,
I see, I can see why AJ getting frustrated, cause
I get tired. I get tired of running under routes too. Yeah,
I would. I get tired of running short crosses.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
They run. Man, stop, man, give me something down the field.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Would be very interested, oh Joe, if we were to
watch it cut up until all twenty two and see
how many times he run further than ten yards down
the field. Right, Because I see I see a lot
of people. I see a lot of I see a
lot of routes short, cross over the ball, under route,
slant route, five yard out. Man, Let that man run
(19:31):
a deep over, Let the man run a comeback. Let
the man run a dig damn Yeah, and more, cause
everybody goes, oh joe, now they know he not going deep.
I'm squatting on everything. O Joe, I ain't getting no
damn backpedal because he ain't run no go.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Ball, especially the especially the better corners, especially the better corners. No,
and understand down the distance. We understand tennessees, we understand split,
we understand schemes, we understand the route concepts. Okay, oh
he's here on top the numbers. Oh he ain't going up.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, you ain't run no damn go right from those
top of those numbers.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh absolutely, Oh he inside the numbers.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay, you try to run a shallow You try to
run a shallow.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Either run the shallow or you're coming outside. What are
the other I could just sit like, I don't know.
I think maybe maybe the casual fan doesn't understand how
how difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated,
but how easy it is for those who study the game,
who watch film and are used to seeing things.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, difficult.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So now the owners is on the office of the
coordinator to be a little bit more creative, to throw
off those that you're playing week because now there's film
on you. There's a year's worth of film on you.
And you got to change things up, because if you
don't change things up, you get what you see to night.
You get players that are frustrated because the blueprinters out there,
the ingredients are out there, and the ingredients are out there. Hey,
(21:01):
we know what this tastes like. You got to change
it up.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You do ojo, and the thing is just like a
pass rusher. You can't give that offensive linean the same
pass rush move. He'll eat that up after a while,
he'll build up an immunity to it. So you gotta
give it. Hey, you gotta Sometimes you gotta turn speed
to power. Sometimes you just got a good depth. Sometimes
you gotta wax on, wax off. Sometimes you gotta bull.
Sometimes you got a hunt. You got to change it up.
(21:25):
The same thing with the offensive lineman. Hey, sometime they
quick set you or jump set you. Sometimes they stab
left and then they come back. Hey, sometime they sometimes
they catch some you've got to change it up.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
These guys are good, very good, and they break everything down.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They watch him, watch his feet, Watch when he does this,
what you does? What he does with his hands? Now,
watch when he watch when he's in the stands. Look
out why this base is defensive offen, defensive lineman. Look
at his stance. They pay attention. They break everything down
to the umpteenth because the margin of era. These guys
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are really good, and the margin of the margin of
victory is so small, very small. It's not I'm telling
you it's not. It's not a mountain. It is small.
It's the minute. Is the just the details. The devil
is in the details.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Man Hey, it's one of one of three players make
the difference.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And again that's what it is. It two turnovers did
not help. Looked like they were the Eagles were going
in get a turnout. Uh uh and Jalen through it
was late and inside you you you you inside. If
that dB can catch, he's going the other way with it.
And then it seemed like they were driving again and
(22:42):
aj Dillon got the ball punched out. That's two turnovers
right there where you look like you were about to
uh make something positive happen, and it ends.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Up going the other way.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But the uh, it gonna be interesting to see how
the Eagles bounce.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Back or how they respond.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh yo, you do realize they didn't score a point
in the second half.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah the second half. The seventeen was off
in the first ay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And on the on the touch push that first when
the the right guard jumped the count again. See he all,
oh yo, he almost has to jump the count because
he has to keep the guy off the center because
if the center gets stand up, because remember Jalen Hurst
is coming right behind it. So if he gets stood up,
so the guard, one of those guards have to knock
somebody off him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Let him get some push.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Now we can get Jayleen Hurst to get a little
push so it gets leg drive. If Jayleen if the
center gets stood up, where's Jayalen going work?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, the play doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's gonna look, I'm sure Nick Serryan is like, you know,
he's like, guy, know, it's a tough when it was
a short week, but hey, it was a short week
for the Giants. Everybody's gonna have. Everybody's gonna have at
least one short week the Cowboys probably Yeah, the Cowboys
will probably have two because they got the Thanksgiving game
and then they nearly likely plays the following Thursday after that.
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But give I think this tonight we can talk about
the Eagles that we're blue in the face. But I
think tonight was more about what the Giants dead, positive
and good as.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Opposed to the Eagles. The Eagles have their issues. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
If I got issues and you don't take advantage of them,
what good is that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Mistake? When you make a mistake, can I make you
pay for it? Right?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You leave the door open, I walk in your house,
you leave something out of the table. I eat off
your table. Every mistake the jets of the Eagles made,
Giants made them pay for it. The question is, look,
Charyoni Siriani cut his teeth and call him plays and
I know it's a bad because here's the thing. Anytime
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you do something that's abnormal, I think you're panicking. If
I take over the play calling, O yoe, what am
I saying the guy that had the play calling? He's
not doing a good job. Be an offenser or defensive.
If I've reassigned people, Hey, you were the class o Yoe, Shannon, Oh, Chad,
get your book move over here. That means you were
being a disruption, You were doing something you would have
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no business.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I got that all the time, Shannon, Can you move
up here by me? Why?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know why? So that's the way that look that's
people are gonna look at that from the outside and says, well,
oh okay, I thought it wasn't nothing going on. If
nothing's going on, why are you making these changes? Why
are you making these moves? But at the end of
the day, I got to do what in the best interest.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Of this team.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And if I have to take over the play calling,
I don't want to. I don't want to take over
the play calling, but I will if I have to.
And the question is do you think Sariarnie should or
will take over the play calling.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's asking awful lot of a head coach be Look,
Josh Shanahan does it, Andy Reed does it. There are
a whole Sean McVay does it. It's not a whole
lot of guys. Ben Johnson does it now. But for
the most part, you know, hey, I got lieutenants. Let
lieutenants do their job Overseee everything. I hear everything. There's
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something Hey, nah, we're gonna run it on this one now,
Hey hey you got that special to play?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Do that?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I try to oversee everything. So what do you think?
What do you think will happen or what do you
think should happen?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I think more so a conversation.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I think more so conversations has had between Petulla Batula
and and Syrianna Sirianni, because Sirianni has enough enough as
a head coach. He has enough he has going on
that he has to deal with. He has enough on
his player as is you already have You already have
coaches appointed to certain positions and they have their jobs.
Now if you if you want a coach to do
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his job a little better or find ways to make
things work, is here now talking out from an officive perspective,
you have that conversation with him and and what needs
to change and what he would like to see as
a head coach. But taking over the play calls this
early to me, It sends him in panic mode. And
I don't think that's something that they really need is
not to panic, but find a way figure out what
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solutions we can take, what what creative effort, you know
can Petula do and in creating a little bit of
creativity offensively and moving some things around, just throwing a
few wrinkles in there, not not going too far away
from the game plan and schematically and the things that
do work and that you like to do, but just
throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little
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bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there playing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh Joe. You know how.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Coaches always asked the quarterback, and the quarterback goes to
the coach that these are the players I like. Yeah,
go to agent Broynce aj what you like? What you
want to run? Give me, give me a hint. How
could how can I help you? What do you like?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah? Ask you, I mean Mike would ask me a
eighty four? What you what you like here?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Same especially in at first fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, you can't go wrong with basic cross, you can't
go wrong with white choice, You cannot go wrong with those.
You give me one of those, I'm good. You give
me one of those. I'm good. I'll make it. I'll
make it work. I don't give a damn if he's
playing outside leverage. I don't care if he's playing head up.
I don't care if he's playing inside leverage. He cannot
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stop me from going where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He's gonna ask me what I like? Hey, you like
a Zorro here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I like Zorro day, I like Zorro. I like Zorro.
I like it, and I like it. You know, I'm
really trying to get a touchdown, so I kind of
like it, Oh, Joe, I like it to tea going in.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I ain't really try to get no first out because
they only gonna bite one time, won't Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
He's like, you got a fish and you you hook
him and he get off. He ain't biting again, not
that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Somebody else might get his ass another day in time,
but he not gonna bite.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that's way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like if I beat him on this arrow this time
and I get a first down, he ain't biting again.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So I'm like, I'm like, no, I.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Kind of like I kind of like, uh like in
the ten for the tsar Ro route, but anything else
might Hey you do right choice, you do basic? Hey,
you do a basic cross? Anything like that, I'm good.
I'm gucci. Hey, run Tiger far across. Hey, any anything.
Just go to AJ and say, a J, what you like?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Tell me?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Tell me, tell me what if I said, ay J,
give me your five favorite routes that you like to run. Yeah,
and let me see how I can incorporate it in
what we're doing. Because all they do, oh Joe, is
that you got your plays and you watch the film
and you see what the other teams did to their
ass last week.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And then you put that in and call it your stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
A copy cat. That's all you do is a copycat league.
And they do it every week.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Whatever they saw, whatever they saw that worked on film,
and you happen to be playing that team, they're gonna
do the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Formation might be a little different, absolutely be exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You think asked for a trade?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
No, damn, Oh shoot, you know what. I'm not in
a J shoes. I'm not I'm not in the shoes.
I don't know. I'm not sure. And and being being
how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs, and the way
he moves and thinks is much much more completely different
than that of what they think he is. Yeah, I'm
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not sure he's the type to ask for a trade,
but but he's frustrated. Davonte Smith is frustrated, for sure.
They both voiced their frustrations. I think it was maybe
last week or week before last publicly, So I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I think, uh right, because because I understand, I really do,
I really do, because I don't want people to think
I understand AJ situation. AJ said, they don't pay me
to win. They pay me for stats.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The only problem that I have stats get me paid,
not wins, not wins.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I told her, Yeah, remember I said that, Yes, I said.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That, the Only problem is that AJ. Keep that with Sirianni,
keep that with Petula, keep that with what you call them.
I say, because when you voice it outside, people are
gonna look at you as being selfish and say you
care about your stats than you do about winning, even
though that's how you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I get it. Yeah, but you're not.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Gonna be able to listit sympathy from that fan base
because we win in oh Yo, just like oh Joe,
you winning, you're like man, But y'all have won seven
games in a row. How you how you go publicly?
They tell about Man, I need to get the ball
right right. People gonna look at you as being selfish,
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although I understand what it's based on. I just wish,
like I said, I would become like a family. Football
team is a family. I guarantee you spend more time
with the with the football team than you do your real.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Family, especially during this time.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yes, from basically.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
From July when you go to training camp until your
season ends, you spend more time with them. You do,
you do, and you do everything you can to keep
everything in house when it gets out of when it
gets out, now, everybody has their own interpretation to what's
going on exactly when you keep it in house, don't nobody,
Don't nobody know, you know what the actually what's actually
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being said, You know what and how to fix it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But then once it gets out.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, and like I said, that meeting, I'm trying to
figure out who how many people know about that meeting, don't.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Joe Mighty probably upstairs. I guarantee you that somebody knows.
He's some reporter, you know, a player talking to reporter
that they probably can fide in and thought it wouldn't
get out or they wouldn't tell anybody, And all of
a sudden, the rest of the world knows.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Mm hm. Trust nothing, Trust absolutely nothing. But now what
I knew to be true all along, Killing Moore is
a damn good offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Absolutely a damn good one.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
He was good at Dallas. He was really good at Dallas.
He was great.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Normally it's
a little lull. Normally Detroit doesn't seem to be having
that problem. To Jonathon Bell, they don't be seen to
have that problem. That ag left. On the defensive side
of the football, Detroit is playing extremely well.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Remember Remember what I said, Remember I said when Ben
Johnson left, when Aaron Glynn left, I said, even though
the coach has left, the pieces of that puzzle are
still there. So you take coaches out and the pieces
of the puzzle still there, you can still put it
together right together because you still got the same pieces.
So it doesn't matter who called the player. That's why
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sometime when I hear coaching, when I hear fans say,
oh they want to they want coaches fired when things
are going well, well, hell well, if he had to
god damn players to execute, it wouldn't be no damn problem.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Bill Belichick was great and New England because he had
the pieces, including Tom and now they wanted to you
know that. I heard he might get fired sometime this
week in North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Bill, Well, what the hell you.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, people look at it.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
If you don't got Jared Rice, Randy Moss and laugh
fitz Gerald, you don't have good receivers, but laugh fist
Gerald and Jared Rice and Random Moss ain't. I mean
it takes a special type of person to fit that system.
And Randy fit the system for a couple of years,
and then all of a sudden he wanted more, and
Bill said, no, everybody's not gonna be able to go. Oh,
Joe Weeks, I count two passes this week. I caught
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four passes last week. I caught this. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Those guys are number one receivers for a
re reason.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
New England built their game of plan to win.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Other teams build the game playing around great players, right right,
that's the difference. So it's going to be very very
interesting to see how this thing plays up. I think
getting away. Hey, seriousity, Look, I don't want to see
you guys till Monday. I see you guys, Monday. Don't
worry about this tape. I see you guys Monday. Come in. Hey,
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we'll have a quick meeting. Get a lift in, get
a run in, runs over this out. I see you
guys Monday. Got Tuesday off. Let's be ready to come
back to work Wednesday and fix whatever whatever we got
going on. It's good to clear our heads. Get an
opportunity to get away from this. Hey, you don't need
to watch television, you don't need to read the paper.
Get stay off the internet, and be ready when we
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come back in here on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Let's be ready to work and get this thing done.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Get it right.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
They're gonna they're gonna have to fix it. And don't
let anything else come out the locker room. Don't say
nothing crazy after the media. I'm not sure who might
have to talk to the media after the game. I
hope they took time to allow themselves to defuse from.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Whatever anger, whatever emotions you may be having. Take a shower.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
First, Take a shower, first, pull off, then talk to
the media. Don't give them no ammunition.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I don't know what I'm surprised though.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Oo, I'm surprised how many people when they go to
the locker room.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
The first thing they do is check their phone.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Mm hmm yeah, absolutely, okay, because I'm shocked by that. Yeah,
I'm one of them.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah you played that.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You played in the era that they didn't have social media.
So I'm glad I didn't. I didn't. I didn't play
in that era. I'm glad.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah, just started, it just started. So I caught social media.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
The guys do that. You think they checked their phone
at halftime too?
Speaker 6 (36:51):
No, I don't know about I don't know about that one.
I don't know about that one. Yeah, my last year
I checked. Okay, I'm cutting the food. Let me see
what they see, what they talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What they talk about on I g oh yo, what
do you think about the two four times?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Michael Parson says, this is not football with two trash emojis.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Hey, you can't stop it, don't knock it. If you
can't stop it. If the Packers were able to do it,
that wouldn't be a problem. So so I mean, toush
pushes not football. So let's let's talk about some of
the players the other teams run that nobody can stop
that aren't highlighted.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Truth.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
We're gonna start eliminating.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Plays from certain teams that do one thing specifically, well.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just because somebody can do something better than anybody can
do one thing.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah, hey, find a way to stop it. I know
how to stop it. I can't. I can't give the
formula on how to stop it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
My brother tell us all the time, he says, my
goal was to do my job, do this one thing
better than anybody else did anything.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It seems to me that the tush push, the Eagles
do this better than any other football team does anything else. Yeah,
whether it's rush the quarterback, whether it's throw the ball,
whether it's running the ball, whatever the case is, the
Eagles do the tush push better than any other football
team do any other thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
So I agree with you? Or Joe? Is it? Is
it aesthetically pleasing? No?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
No, I don't believe you should throw it out just
because somebody can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So if uh Michael Michael mikeh says it's trash, he
got the two trash cab with the guy m dump
dump in the trash, and then what you think, o, Joe.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Nah Michaeh and being the competitor he is, it's shouldn't
matter with anybody else running well, you want, you wanted
the best in the league, you top three in the league.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It shouldn't matter. You got to stop it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Tampa, Tampa, Tampa is getting what you call them getting
Big Dad is ready?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Are they dead? Don't let them move you at all.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Clog it up the best way you can.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Hey, we got a very special guest joining us, a
good friend of the show, co founder of Reddit, founder
of Apollos, Harry Is Alexis o'hannan, Max.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
What's going on doing? Pleasure, absolute pleasure to be here.
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Me, Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
We know you're one of the biggest advocate of women's issues.
What went into the thought process of creating this This
women's only track me certain events and say, you know what,
I want to do something special to highlight these great
women athletes.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Look, I'm obviously married to the goat. We can get
that out of the way. Yes you are, Serena Williams
Is you think about it though, right like you know,
it's funny. I grew up in a household. NFL was
the only thing that mattered. Football was the sport I
played and I loved. I didn't think about any other sport,
didn't watch tennis. I didn't know anything about it. Now
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I got smart. Now I'm I'm a big fan, obviously,
But you know, at no point did I ever think
that women's tennis was less than men's. And if you
talk to any sports fan today, they'd sound crazy if
they thought or if they said that women's tennis was
less than ment's In America. Frankly, women's tennis is as popular,
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if not more popular tennis. Look at how much money
these ladies get paid more. And obviously Serena and Venus
they were the ones who you know, brought that to
the world. But you know, tennis is the perfect example
where with investment and Billy gen King made sure those
late he's got paid. That made it possible for two
little girls in comptent to say, I'm gonna change my
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life by playing this sport because I know I can
be excellent, get compensated for it. And then with the
generational talent, you blew up the sport made it bigger
than ever and look where we are today. And so
it happened in tennis, and I just realized, here is
another sport, track and field. I know y'all are fans
of it, the big buggest, most most played, most active, most
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engaged sports. We had a legacy of greatness, especially in
the American women, historical and present. So you had Melissa,
Melissa Jefferson, We had anaholl tremendous talents, all of them.
And you know, every four years, these ladies are superstars.
We tune in during the Olympics, we cheer form, it's
one of the most watched sports, and then disappear. And
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I'm just a businessman. All I want to do is
see greatness continue to get celebrated because if there are eyeballs,
there are dollars, correct you every four years, and it's
not about charity, it's about supporting these amazing athletes. And
I saw y'all during Paris offering bounties. Yeah, yeah, old medals.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, thirty seven thousand dollars for winning the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Come on, man, love that, love that, come on, and
so you know this is this is I think you
know post Reddit, I've been really blessed to do some
things in women's sports, starting Angel City, this women's soccer
team five years ago, and now I think athletics is
going to be a huge part of my legacy and
I'm just grateful to be able to hear talk about it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, this year you added, uh, the long jump. This
is times square. Will you be.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Looking to add more events in the coming in the
coming years? Uh, you know, obviously it's only a handful
of events, and I get that, but that's a start.
But in the in the in the long term, your
goal is to have how many events you think?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
You know, Look, every time we've added an event, it's
been with an anchor star. Because again, for me, social
media tells the story. Obviously the Reddit guy, I look
at follower counts, uh, and and you know I was.
I was totally naive when I got into the sport,
so obviously I knew the sprinters. I had a bias
for the sprinters. Because that's a quick story. Yeah, you
don't have to you ask a fan to pay attention.
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I don't have to watch for very long and they're
getting an amazing show. And and you know, the longest
race we've got right now is the mile, which which
still keeps a pretty short attention span. Obviously, faif kit
be a Gong was going again for the world record.
You got to go right you good especial and but
Tar Davis Woodhall or I'm repping here. You know. I
invited her. She's got millions of followers on social media.
(43:35):
She's a long jumper, gold medalist for the United States
and the world champion and the world champion exactly and
uh and I said, why don't you come to the show,
come to Athlos and she said, I won't come unless
I'm competing. Okay, channel's accepted, So we put her on
actually tonight in Times Square. So I'm still coming off
the high I got. Can't be too loud here because
my babies are asleep in the hotel suite and you know,
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went to the room. But we had an amazing night
in Times Square. Look at the clips. I mean, we
had the best long jumpers in the world. We shut
down Times Square and these ladies were running. The top
three are gonna now compete tomorrow. There's the photos. The
top three are gonna compete tomorrow at Icon, to which
you all are both invited. Track side Swee, I'm waiting
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for you. We've got cr performing DJ Traumas spinning in
between the races. We're gonna have you know, the fastest
ladies in the world. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You got Faith Kba Gunn in the fifteen hundred meters.
You got Keey Hopkins, the eight hundred meter Olympic gold medalist.
You got Massiah Russell the one hundred meter Olympic gold
mess in the hurdles, you got Marilidi Paulino, the gold
medalist into four hundred meters, and you got a Lexis
Home who's a four x four world champion and mixed
relay world champion. Much of the complaint from the track
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community of Lexus has been the lack of visibility because,
like you said, the big events only happened. The big
event only happens once every four years, so it's like
they go dorm. It's like we hibernate. So we get
excited twenty twenty four yeay, yay yay, and then I
got away all the way to twenty twenty eight to
do it again.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Too much, and we want to get behind you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
You know, we like we like baseball and football and
basketball players because guess what we see them every year.
We get a roof for I get, I better get
being able to root for Lebron for twenty three years.
They got a roof of COVID for twenty years. I
got to root with these guys. But I gotta wait
once every four year to see my my favorite athlete competing.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
No, it's it's it's ridiculous. And you look at the
numbers again, none of this. Don't ever get this twisted. No,
this is about charity. You look at the numbers. Track
and field is one of the most viewed sports during
the Summer Olympics, millions of people, and so you know,
we were we were quite happy last year. We had
three million people on broadcast tune in. We're expecting more
of this year and then our plan for next year
(45:50):
we've announced it. So it'll be a team based track
and field league. So instead of just one meets, we're
gonna have multiple meets in major cities. Think of it
like the Formula One of track and field. So companies
like Mercedes and Ferrari, they have F one cars. They
spend tons of money basically for marketing. Right, so you
could think of some great apparel brands I wouldn't you know,
(46:12):
I could point to if you might think of that
want to be associated with speed and excellence. So imagine
those as teams, and then imagine now you have a
way to see the very best to do it in
this team format, similar to like NC DOUBA and so
you can imagine you've got I mean, if we just
say there's a hypothetical Nike team, you know you've got
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shitkri You've got Tar Davis, Woodhall, You've got so many
of these champs that now get to share a team,
not just around the Olympics, around a nation, but around
a brand. And it starts to change the economics now
because if I'm one of these shoe companies, I'm on
these apparel companies, just like Mercedes wants to be associated
with speed and excellence and hold that trophy the Constructor's
(46:54):
Cup the end of Formula One. You're also going to
be able to test a new technology on the track
with the fastest athletes. And you're also going to start
telling a story which is look, if we're spending this
kind of money on a team, you know, Lewis Hamilton
knows what he's worth because he knows what it means
to Ferrari to have the best to do it. I
think this starts to have a very positive impact in
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the way that we value these athletes. And as soon
as they're valued that way, they're going to get marketed more.
Their stories are going to get told. And I want
to buy a jersey. I want to buy a tar
Davis Woodhall T shirt with her name and her number
and her team on it. Right, I can buy a
single jersey. I can buy a Shannon Sharp jersey. Can't.
I can't buy a jersey for any track and field
athletes because it doesn't exist, not yet.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
So let me get let me, let me make sure
I'm hearing you correct.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So you'll have teams, and so these teams will be
made up from men and women.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
From all across the world.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
So you might have Keeley Hoskins being a teammate of
Melissa Jefferson, who might be a teammate of Faith Kip Yeag.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So it would it be something like the Unrival League.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
You see how Unrivaled, Like they got teammates on one
team like the w n b A, but they're on
different teams around you know, when they playing Arrival.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So you're talking about something like that. Those kind of teams.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
For sure in that you know, and we love the
unrival of folks fee, and they've done a great job.
The difference would be our teams would be more than
likely built around a brand. But imagine that scenario exactly.
And so now if I'm sitting here now, obviously Nike's
(48:27):
got a great roster, but you can't sleep on New
Balance with Sid and Gabby. There's lots of talents, all right, yes,
And so now imagine if you were any of these
other brands, or any of the brands, really you want
to win, because just like you're if you're Ferrari, you
want to make sure you're holding up that troph at
the end of the season. And so it'll mean let's
say we added a couple other sports, maybe even throwing
(48:50):
a thrower. You start now seeing a broader team composition
and and and these brands are incentivized now to build
out that roster and to support those athletes in marketing
as well as in you know, physios and support all
this other stuff. And I think really level up the
way we think about what these brands can do. And
now you better believe just like if I watch, I
(49:12):
don't know, watch Mercedes win a Formula One race, it
incentivizes me to want to buy a Mercedes Sedan. So
imagine if I'm a sneaker company, how much it would
mean to me to have you know, the top, to
see the closed team and what that means to move
sneakers to everybody else, whether you're you know, whether you're
running your hundredth marathon or you're doing your first five k,
(49:33):
like you want to feel like the best to do it.
And so why wait four years? I think you're absolutely right,
we shouldn't. There's still great athletes even outside of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Let me ask you something off topic, please, You and
s Arena competitive.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Extremely banefly though thankfully though not in tennis. I've never
picked up a racket. Uh yeah, no, and you know,
thankfully both of our daughters and herited most of my
wife's athletic jeans. Although you know, big fella, I still
i'd like to say I contributed some hype to the girls, but.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Pop yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
But you know, I it's it's really interesting. We're incredibly
competitive in very different ways. And uh and it's a
blessing because I think, you know, in tech in particular,
we delude ourselves into thinking we're the hardest working folks
in the room. You know, the industry, look, text done
amazing stuff, certainly for my career, and the industry thinks
a lot of itself. I always recommend friends of mine,
(50:35):
other CEOs in the industry. I say, just just if
you're single, right, data professional athlete, spend time with professional
athletes and what you see, and I'm preaching at the
choir here the the amount of fortitude, determination, the will
power of a professional athlete. And I have to say
the solo athletes too, our next level. Yeah, you know,
(51:00):
those sol athletes are bill different. There is a absolutely
another level of intensity and determination and work ethic and
an incredible, incredible competitiveness. Uh and so I knew, I
knew I met my match because I really thought it
was the hardest work in the room and the most competitive.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
But uh yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a different perspective
because when you're in the tech industry or you're married,
you're asking your significant other to understand your work hours
and what's necessary.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
As an athlete, they're.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Asking their spousal, their significant other to understand the sacrifice.
So now they get an opportunity to see what each
other have asked the other party to do.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
So now you're like I.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Am so sorry, babe, I am so I did not
realize that I had put this kind of pressure and
ask you to do so much more out of your.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
I never had that fight. We have never had that
fight about me putting in too many hours, because she
understood that someone who knows, she knows, she knows what
it takes. And you know, I'm not, I'm not breaking
the barrier she's breaking in order to be great. But
still she knows what it takes and and and that
that work. Alex shines man. And so it's it's fun.
(52:16):
We're competitive, but in really good ways.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
And that's and two, that's that's the dope thing.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
When you always think about people throwing around the word
power couple all the time, they throw the word power
couple around based on aesthetics, based on not the intangibles
that that that you don't get to see or you
get you don't get here. So it's really dope to
hear the dynamic and in which you to share coming
from two different totally different fields tech.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
World, let's be honest, the obvious, the elephant in the
room here, yeah, Serena, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's big elephants.
Comics fan that's not that's not the elephan in the room,
rob from very different worlds, even though she is a
DC fan, I don't get it. I'm a Marvel guy.
(53:03):
It's obviously better. But uh, yeah, no, I know, but
it's uh, like I said, you you find the commonality
and uh, and it's it's definitely been a hell of
a ride.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You know, we got to find y'all, you know, because
you know you had benefer and and you know, we know,
you know, we gotta get you got you got, you
gotta get a name.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
I tried, I really tried so hard to avoid that
side of celebrity. No, no, And here's the thing, like,
and that's that's you know, to my wife's credit, and
she and Venus is the exact same way. Both those
girls had to be so famous so early, and and
you know, you've already got the pressure of you know,
(53:49):
you know, having to carry so much responsibility going into
that sport, the way they were total outsiders and deal
with all the bullshit they had to deal with. And uh,
and they became famous very young. And you know, I
don't need to tell you how many stories of people
to whom that happens, where it just goes off the rails, right,
and they have always been remarkably grounded. Credit to you know,
(54:11):
mister Williams and miss oor Scene, Like they did a
really good job grounding them in that. And it's funny because, like,
even to this day, it's never been about the celebrity part.
It's like, the funniest thing people don't realize is, you know,
some of the best days that I know she has
and we have are some of the most boring suburban
(54:32):
parents dates, right, It's taking our daughter to ballet. It's
a lot of things, frankly, that I think a lot
of folks probably take for granted because they imagine, oh, well, geez,
I'd want to be on the carpet, I'd want to
be holding up the US Open trophy, I want to
be doing all this stuff, which is great stuff, don't
get me wrong. But it's funny when you see someone
who's been at the top of the mountain, who's had everything,
(54:54):
it's interesting the things that they value most are some
of the things that most of us spend all our lives,
you know, trying to sort of set aside while we're
trying to do the other thing. And it's those simple
joys man.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
I want to you know, Alice, when you told, when
you told you boys, man, guess are you boy dating?
Speaker 1 (55:11):
You never go get who your boy going out with?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, they probably started rolling out the man not even
close bigger than them, Bigger than that, you know that
give you boy some credit.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So when you told, when you told your home the
guy that.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
You're very close to, these are these are my guys?
I know, yeah you were you told about since I
was five, that's how okay, since kindergarten, first grade, okay,
and uh, you know what, honestly, they weren't that surprised
and what that says. I mean, okay, I'll be okay,
let's just speak. I wasn't out here, you know, just
casually dating the greatest of all time across. But but
(55:54):
you know, I I don't know. I think these guys
got used to me do doing really exceptional crazy stuff
and and even you know, starting a company, ride out
of college all that stuff. I mean, look, I think,
uh it was it was actually really sweet. My my pops,
my dad, and he was the guy who whenever, whenever
(56:17):
tennis would come on TV and change the channel, right
because we were a football household. Everything else was like
a coentry. It was a country club hobby. It wasn't
a real sport. And and remember telling my dad and
he kind of paused and he was just like, wait
one more time. He because he thought I was punking him.
He thought I was kidding and h and he's like,
you're you're dating who? And I was like Serena Woods
(56:39):
And he's like, Okay, come on, come on, come on,
there's no way you're not even what.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Do you what do you know?
Speaker 4 (56:45):
You don't know any about tennis. How did you meet her?
That's just crazy? And uh and but you know, my boys,
to their credit, they didn't they didn't bust my child's
too much. And uh, I don't know. I think, look,
it's on its services. Pretty surprising. And I will say
the probably one of the most satisfying parts about it
(57:06):
was at the time I had just come back to
Reddit and we had met, I mean folks, and we
met randomly. There was a breakfast at a hotel in
Rome of all places, and I was going to try
to escape the job. I had been there for six months,
seven days a week, like I wasn't My head of
comms was like, you got to get it you got
to go on a trip, like get out of here.
You're just redlining. And she sent me to Rome to
(57:26):
do the speaking gig. I didn't want to go do it,
but I did. And I just pulled up at breakfast
one morning and basically Serena and her team tried to
get me to move. I didn't move, and she was like,
my team was planning on sitting there, and I was like,
that's fine, they can come join me. And you know,
we started a conversation and she pretended like she knew
what Reddit was, and this was twenty fifteen. She was
(57:48):
trying to be really polite, but she really had no
no clue. And I mean, to be honest with it
was that big back then anyway. But thankfully, thankfully we
kept the conversation going and she was curious enough about
the tech industry to the rest.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know, Alex, I'm gonna get you out of here.
This when a guy once told me, he said, he
asked me a question. He said, Shawn, you know why
movie stars marry other movie stars? And I'm like, they
like each other. I mean, he said no, he said,
because the other know what it's like to live in
that world. You know, what it's like to devote time
to be great. She knows what it's like to devote
time to be great. So you guys know what it's
(58:29):
like to live in the other's world and you bring
these worlds together, you know.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
What, And I'll tell you I will. It is obvious,
how much, like you said, having someone who is just
so motivated on so many mothers, and I see the
role model she is for our daughters. You couldn't ask
for a better mother of your children. She also taught
me that there is more seasoning than just salt and pepper.
(59:00):
No idea you could do. You see some other than
just song peppers. So I've learned a lot, but no,
I really I feel I feel so fortunate. It's like
I said, it's been out of a journey. And then
as a fun surprise, she's actually going to be handing
out the Tiffany Crowns at a Flo's tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Wow, that's the uh.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
And she was feeling left out last year and so
she was like, hey, I want I want to be
a part of this. And so it's gonna be a
lot of fun for the ladies. So on top of
the cash prize record breaking, there getting those Tiffany Crowns.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Well, we missed it. We missed it this year, but
I promise you we'll be there next year.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Got to and we're gonna multiple meets, so New York
will be that's you and I. You know, we talked
to that a lot of them doing the Olympics. We
talked to them doing the World Championships, and we hey,
we want to help any way we possibly can to
grow the sport of track and field.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Obviously we're we're very women friendly. We want them to
be the past. Alexis, thanks for joining the night. Tell
Serena hello, and we'll talk to you against Shannon Chat.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Y'all are amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yes, appreciate your bro Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Uh uh tickets are Tickets for the Apollos New York
City are also on sale now at appolos dot com.
Make sure you go get those tickets. See your favorite
track and field athletes compete. Hey, Massa already says she
got her cash. I'm ready, so she's ready to get Hey,
(01:00:29):
just put it in good to go.
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
As matter of fact, I think I should I should compete.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Huh No next year, Okay, let them let let them
have their let them have their moments. Thank Fallic, appreciate
your man, best of look on everything. We'll see you
down the road.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
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But first, Oh Cho, Tonight, this game wasn't closed. Jackson
Dart did it with his arm and his leg. Scat
(04:14):
packed with sensational nineteen carries ninety eight yards, three touchdown,
Jackson Dart thirteen carries fifty eight yards another touchdown. They
gained one hundred and seventy two yards on the ground.
Jackson Dart was seventeen or twenty five one ninety five
one touchdown. He was sacked, but he didn't turn the
ball over. And when you can turn them, when you
can take care of the football and you play, you
(04:35):
have a great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was twenty
four thirty three two eighty three one touchdown. Oh hoe,
what we say about that late ball? If you Layton
inside is.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Going the other way every time?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And it almost did. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They ran the ball twenty times for seventy three yards,
but they ran the Tousch push four times in the
row they got a touchdown on it. Dallas Guardup has
seven catches one hundred and ten yards a touchdown. AJ
Brown has six for eighty. Davonta smil who Jalen hurts
overthrow would have had like a ninety yard touchdown, but
he had four for forty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh Joe. The Giants just the Giants did whatever they
wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Both sides of the ball too at that, and both
sides of the ball at that. For one, I want
to talk about Jackson Dark. I want to say about
good Jackson Dark looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson
started the season for the Giants. But when Jackson Dark
got his opportunity, he came in and closed the door
right behind him.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yep, he's making the.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping, he's eluding, he's
using his legs, he's using his arm. His best weapon
went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that
his best weapon offensively outside of the Scatterbo was hurt.
Jackson Dart is a real deal and he's very exciting.
(05:54):
The combination of him and Scatterbo together it's like two
little kids.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's like two little kids out there on the playground.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yes, you're in the game of football at the highest level,
and it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans as
you can see and you can hear. You know, you watch,
you watch, you watch the game with the sound off,
but just just watching the reaction and the sound of
the Giants.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh they gonna.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I can see the fans when they're paying and the
fans going, I'm sure they're saying, uh bowl like for
scatter Bow. Scott Pack was doing his thing. Jackson Dart,
I'm sure the hell is dark. Look this was look
and we'll get to this, ohoe. Because the Eagles didn't
play well and they got some issues, and we tried
to tell them about the issues that they have. But
you know what, Ojo, but you can't tell Giants fan
(06:38):
anything because you creak. If I critique a Jaalen hurts,
you don't like black people. You don't say this about
white quarterback. If I critique their team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine,
I should have your undivided attention cause I couldn't get
you attention at first because you was winning. And see
that when you win it you can't get nobody's attention.
Now I should have your undivided attention because you're lost twice. Yes,
(07:02):
the Giants, they got the makings of a good team.
The only thing that concerns me, o Jo is pressure.
There are times back there that Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
With just sitting there patting the ball.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And two of the three and two of the four
pass rushers was on the ground. They've got to generate
pressure because they don't have a lead on the back end.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And so you should be able.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
When you got d Lawrence, when you got a Thibodeau,
when you got a dual carter. That should be more
than enough to create pressure to create habit, and not nearly.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I forgot Brian Burns. That should be enough, more
than enough to create habit. Not enough. Habit was created tonight.
You won the game.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But in order for you to keep building on this,
you got ten weeks, you got ten days off, you
get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the
Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy because the Yankees
lost last night.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But if you're a Giant, you look at Jackson Dart,
You're like man. He won his first game.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
He was playing really well against the Saints, and then
he started turning the ball over. If we can protect
the ball, I think we might got something. Skat Pack
was doing what Skatpack does. He runs hard. He's looking
to run through as Marshawn Lynch would say, run through
a mofo face, and he runs with authority. He's looking
to deliver a blow. When he blocked, he's blocking all out.
(08:24):
When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a
couple of cuts early, but hey, allis forgive him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He was a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I thought the Giants offensive line o chhoe when
we talked about that thing with the seal, Hey, he
was just coming to a you're gonna block him.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But they did a ground.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought they did a better job tonight of protecting
Jackson Dark. He did a great job of avoiding the rush.
When he needed to run, he got rid of he
got out of the pocket. When he needed to throw
the ball away, he threw it away. I liked what
I saw from the New York Football Giant. Wandelle Robinson
had himself a game a little John Humphrey. I thought
he made some plays tonight, Joe. But I mean, what
(09:03):
can we say the Giants? I mean, I don't think
anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game.
But did you go to show you, hey, you take
care of the football and it's a division game, Oh Joe,
it's a robber game, you know, and you throw workers
out the window when you playing a rival.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Now, was definitely definitely, But listen, if you also understand
if you're a betman, if you're a betman, you're definitely
picking the Eels.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, I wonder what the lion, well, what was the
you know, what the lion was out, Joe, No, I
had to be proud to be I'm thinking at least
for four and a half.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Listen, you're going against a rookie quarterback defending Super Bowl champs.
Everybody named Mama probably pok picked the Eagles to actually
win this game. But when you have a quarterback like
Jackson Dart who has been as exciting as he is,
who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten
the starting job, I mean, for those who actually know
and understand the game of a ball and based on
the small sam besides of Jackson Dart, that we've been
(09:59):
able to see your throw caution to win when you
come to Bedding against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance.
So going forward, you know, I think things are gonna
change a little bit when it comes to watching not
only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
To on them to win a certain game or specific game.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It seems like the line was seven seven and a
half depends on where you was batting, who you was bad,
You know where you're you know what line you took.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I'm confused, O, Joe, Wait before you say anything, let
me get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm confused if what they're doing with AJ Brown. I
watched the man run two unders in a row.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
M M.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm like, is that the only route y'all believe AJ
Brown can run? He run under, he run a little.
They try to run him on like a a little
six seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination
in the routes. I don't see no magic, no no
creativity in the calls.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Look, they running smash concepts. They run, they run, they
run the sale and then they run. They run the
spot what we call a spot route. Or they'll run,
they'll run, they'll run the out and then they'll run
the under. Or Davante will try starting the slot and
he'll run run the fade, or he'll run the smash route.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I mean he'll uh and uh Brown would run the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm like, damn, if I'm jayling, Her said, Man, I'm
tired of run these damn under routes. Give me a dig,
give me a comeback, give me a deep over, give
me something.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Hey run a bank.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah, we ain't got no bangs.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Yeah, I will say they made they made a conscious
effort to give them the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They made a conscious effort to give.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
The ball in the in the first half, and there
was some players that broken down where he was able
to scramble out the pocket and get get the ball
to AJ.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It wasn't many of.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Them, but he had a he had a better better
stat line this this this week.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You know, game seas most yards he's had.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, he had that hundred yard game against the
Rams where they were down about a lot of the half,
and then they came out made a conscious effort like
we got to throw the ball because we can't run
ourselves back in the ball game, and it was like okay.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
AJ.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So he had six for eighty, Dallas Goddard had six,
nine for one ten smid it would have been over
one hundred had Jalen out overthrow and me put a
little bit too much gas up on it. DeVante red
a really good route had him I mean, he could
have walked backwards and gotten too the end zone because
it looked like his defender had fallen down on Joe. Yeah,
when you when when you look at the Eagles, what's
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going on? Clearly clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah, I
don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know,
thirty four to seventeen. It's been a while since the
Eagles lost the game by that And this game wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This game wasn't. I mean, ugh, this thing got on
had quick.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
It did, it did, And I would think some obviously
I think, would start up front in the pieces to
that offensive line being missing. Small holes that you that
you you try to cover up, you know, weak links
that you try to cover up, but you just can't.
There's a reason why Sakuon Barkley isn't being as successful
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in the running game as he was last year because.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He wasn't o Jo. You do that with Ojo? You
thought they were gonna let that man come back and
rush for another two thousand.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best
offensive line in the league.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes, but concerted effort. What did I tell you? If
you're gonna beat me, you're gonna beat me with Jayala
Hurst throwing the football. Oh yeah, because I like my
chances better beating you with him throwing the football than
Saint Kwan Barkley running for one hundred and twenty five
a game.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's really that simple. And that's not a knock. I'm
not gonna let but I'm not gonna let you have
a two way go of it. Now, Sakwan's running. Now
you play action and throw the ball over the top
of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Nah nah nah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
If you gonna throw the ball with penport actors and
guess what I'm gonna do, O Joe, I'm gonna leave.
I'm not gonna bring. I'm not gonna drop eight in
the box. I'm not gonna throw one on one. I'm
gonna make you throw through zones. I'm gonna make you
throw the coverage. Now you do that consistently. Okay, I
tip my hat to you. I can live with that,
but I Am not going to let Saquan do what
he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now,
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you throw when you want to, You run when you
want to. You got me begging, man throw the ball, man.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Nah hell nah, you gonna beg for something different. Look,
it's early in the season, but clearly something is something
that is a miss with the Eagles. It's hard to
pick right up where you left off, Ojo, and someone
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that has been in that situation. You have to you
have to really, you have to really turn your mind
off to like, man, we won the Super Bowl. Yeah
you did that last year. You think these team are
gonna roll over just how you won the Super Bowl?
You're their super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The teams that didn't win the Super Bowl, guess what
when they see your ass on the schedule. Now that
gives us You know what Brian day Ball said, that's
the defending super Bowl champs and we just hung thirty
four on them. You see when we play, we can
beat anybody in this league. That's what they're saying. That's
the Eagles. That's the defending super Bowl champ. So now
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teams based there, they based how good they are beat them.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And now you see why.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Now this gives you a better reason why why the
hurts when they ask them about the Super Bowl and
how it feels in the champs Why he throws it
out the door.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
That was last year, Absolutely because he.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Understood how difficult it would be not only repeat, but
they have the same success going into this same way.
Now we're seeing the struggs that they are having being
at their not at full strength.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Especially at the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than
they were last year, and it's a different new offensive
coordinator he had. Things have to evolve offensively. You know,
you can't be too predictable. Last year because the running
game was so efficient, you could, damn there, do what
you want to do exactly, and you can throw it
when you want to. You got to pick your poison
on what you want to do. Now things are a
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little different, and now you're going to get to see
the better part of the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They then they got to dig down, don't yo, We
got to dig.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, they could do one of two things. You can
come together and fix it, or things are going to
continue to splinter.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, you're and we're not gonna make no excuses. Oh,
the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me the
Giants had thirty four and the Eagles had seventeen. They
didn't say Eagles one had thirty four and the Eagles
two had seventeen. Right, ain't no beat beat yourself because
see that's the excuses you made last week. That had
man they should have called pass and appearance. That was
a pass and appearance. You see what happens on Joe.
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If you if you lose by a little, I can
go back and point the thing. Well, if we had
done this, We had done that. But see when I
beat hell at.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You, what you're gonna say?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So what passed in the affairs that would have made
up seventeen points? What holding call?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Man? They will help?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
They was holding So what holding call would have made
up seventeen points? What did I miss? What off signs?
What penoty that they didn't call? That would have made
up for seventeen points? Poel, I feel bad for my guy.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Gilly's gonna be all right, you know, I know he's
gonna be the only reason I'm saying he gonna be
the only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to
be okay. Yeah, because it's so early in the season.
It's so early now we now we were on the
back of the season. I give you one. If it
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was after Thanksgiving. Things we're looking the way they look now,
I be worried.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'd be worried.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But let me tell you, when you show vulnerability early, yes,
teams like they can be had. That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Now, because you're already gonna get everybody's best shot at
Yoe cause you're the ranging super Bowl champs. Absolutely, you're
gonna get everybody's best. But now they're like, hey, they're vulnerable.
They can be had the ferocity that that defense is
not nearly as vicious as suffocating as it was. That's
a rookie, O Joe. I don't give a damn who
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back there. That is a rookie quarterback and only his
third start. And he did that. He did that, and
he didn't seem bothered by what you were doing on
the back end. He didn't seem flustered, he didn't seem
off kilter. He didn't seem like, man, what are they doing?
I'm seeing ghosts out there. He didn't seem that way
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to me. Now, maybe somebody else saw something that I
didn't see, but he looked perfectly fine to me. Hey,
I see, I can see why AJ getting frustrated, cause
I get tired. I get tired of running under routes too. Yeah,
I would. I get tired of running short crosses.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
They run. Man, stop, man, give me something down the field.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Would be very interested, oh Joe, if we were to
watch it cut up until all twenty two and see
how many times he run further than ten yards down
the field. Right, Because I see I see a lot
of people. I see a lot of I see a
lot of routes short, cross over the ball, under route,
slant route, five yard out. Man, Let that man run
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a deep over, Let the man run a comeback. Let
the man run a dig damn Yeah, and more, cause
everybody goes, oh joe, now they know he not going deep.
I'm squatting on everything. O Joe, I ain't getting no
damn backpedal because he ain't run no go.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Ball, especially the especially the better corners, especially the better corners. No,
and understand down the distance. We understand tennessees, we understand split,
we understand schemes, we understand the route concepts. Okay, oh
he's here on top the numbers. Oh he ain't going up.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, you ain't run no damn go right from those
top of those numbers.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh absolutely, Oh he inside the numbers.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay, you try to run a shallow You try to
run a shallow.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Either run the shallow or you're coming outside. What are
the other I could just sit like, I don't know.
I think maybe maybe the casual fan doesn't understand how
how difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated,
but how easy it is for those who study the game,
who watch film and are used to seeing things.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, difficult.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So now the owners is on the office of the
coordinator to be a little bit more creative, to throw
off those that you're playing week because now there's film
on you. There's a year's worth of film on you.
And you got to change things up, because if you
don't change things up, you get what you see to night.
You get players that are frustrated because the blueprinters out there,
the ingredients are out there, and the ingredients are out there. Hey,
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we know what this tastes like. You got to change
it up.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You do ojo, and the thing is just like a
pass rusher. You can't give that offensive linean the same
pass rush move. He'll eat that up after a while,
he'll build up an immunity to it. So you gotta
give it. Hey, you gotta Sometimes you gotta turn speed
to power. Sometimes you just got a good depth. Sometimes
you gotta wax on, wax off. Sometimes you gotta bull.
Sometimes you got a hunt. You got to change it up.
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The same thing with the offensive lineman. Hey, sometime they
quick set you or jump set you. Sometimes they stab
left and then they come back. Hey, sometime they sometimes
they catch some you've got to change it up.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
These guys are good, very good, and they break everything down.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They watch him, watch his feet, Watch when he does this,
what you does? What he does with his hands? Now,
watch when he watch when he's in the stands. Look
out why this base is defensive offen, defensive lineman. Look
at his stance. They pay attention. They break everything down
to the umpteenth because the margin of era. These guys
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are really good, and the margin of the margin of
victory is so small, very small. It's not I'm telling
you it's not. It's not a mountain. It is small.
It's the minute. Is the just the details. The devil
is in the details.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Man Hey, it's one of one of three players make
the difference.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And again that's what it is. It two turnovers did
not help. Looked like they were the Eagles were going
in get a turnout. Uh uh and Jalen through it
was late and inside you you you you inside. If
that dB can catch, he's going the other way with it.
And then it seemed like they were driving again and
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aj Dillon got the ball punched out. That's two turnovers
right there where you look like you were about to
uh make something positive happen, and it ends.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Up going the other way.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But the uh, it gonna be interesting to see how
the Eagles bounce.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Back or how they respond.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh yo, you do realize they didn't score a point
in the second half.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah the second half. The seventeen was off
in the first ay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And on the on the touch push that first when
the the right guard jumped the count again. See he all,
oh yo, he almost has to jump the count because
he has to keep the guy off the center because
if the center gets stand up, because remember Jalen Hurst
is coming right behind it. So if he gets stood up,
so the guard, one of those guards have to knock
somebody off him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Let him get some push.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Now we can get Jayleen Hurst to get a little
push so it gets leg drive. If Jayleen if the
center gets stood up, where's Jayalen going work?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, the play doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's gonna look, I'm sure Nick Serryan is like, you know,
he's like, guy, know, it's a tough when it was
a short week, but hey, it was a short week
for the Giants. Everybody's gonna have. Everybody's gonna have at
least one short week the Cowboys probably Yeah, the Cowboys
will probably have two because they got the Thanksgiving game
and then they nearly likely plays the following Thursday after that.
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But give I think this tonight we can talk about
the Eagles that we're blue in the face. But I
think tonight was more about what the Giants dead, positive
and good as.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Opposed to the Eagles. The Eagles have their issues. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
If I got issues and you don't take advantage of them,
what good is that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Mistake? When you make a mistake, can I make you
pay for it? Right?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You leave the door open, I walk in your house,
you leave something out of the table. I eat off
your table. Every mistake the jets of the Eagles made,
Giants made them pay for it. The question is, look,
Charyoni Siriani cut his teeth and call him plays and
I know it's a bad because here's the thing. Anytime
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you do something that's abnormal, I think you're panicking. If
I take over the play calling, O yoe, what am
I saying the guy that had the play calling? He's
not doing a good job. Be an offenser or defensive.
If I've reassigned people, Hey, you were the class o Yoe, Shannon, Oh, Chad,
get your book move over here. That means you were
being a disruption, You were doing something you would have
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no business.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I got that all the time, Shannon, Can you move
up here by me? Why?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know why? So that's the way that look that's
people are gonna look at that from the outside and says, well,
oh okay, I thought it wasn't nothing going on. If
nothing's going on, why are you making these changes? Why
are you making these moves? But at the end of
the day, I got to do what in the best interest.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Of this team.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And if I have to take over the play calling,
I don't want to. I don't want to take over
the play calling, but I will if I have to.
And the question is do you think Sariarnie should or
will take over the play calling.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's asking awful lot of a head coach be Look,
Josh Shanahan does it, Andy Reed does it. There are
a whole Sean McVay does it. It's not a whole
lot of guys. Ben Johnson does it now. But for
the most part, you know, hey, I got lieutenants. Let
lieutenants do their job Overseee everything. I hear everything. There's
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something Hey, nah, we're gonna run it on this one now,
Hey hey you got that special to play?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Do that?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I try to oversee everything. So what do you think?
What do you think will happen or what do you
think should happen?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I think more so a conversation.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I think more so conversations has had between Petulla Batula
and and Syrianna Sirianni, because Sirianni has enough enough as
a head coach. He has enough he has going on
that he has to deal with. He has enough on
his player as is you already have You already have
coaches appointed to certain positions and they have their jobs.
Now if you if you want a coach to do
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his job a little better or find ways to make
things work, is here now talking out from an officive perspective,
you have that conversation with him and and what needs
to change and what he would like to see as
a head coach. But taking over the play calls this
early to me, It sends him in panic mode. And
I don't think that's something that they really need is
not to panic, but find a way figure out what
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solutions we can take, what what creative effort, you know
can Petula do and in creating a little bit of
creativity offensively and moving some things around, just throwing a
few wrinkles in there, not not going too far away
from the game plan and schematically and the things that
do work and that you like to do, but just
throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little
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bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there playing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh Joe. You know how.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Coaches always asked the quarterback, and the quarterback goes to
the coach that these are the players I like. Yeah,
go to agent Broynce aj what you like? What you
want to run? Give me, give me a hint. How
could how can I help you? What do you like?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah? Ask you, I mean Mike would ask me a
eighty four? What you what you like here?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Same especially in at first fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, you can't go wrong with basic cross, you can't
go wrong with white choice, You cannot go wrong with those.
You give me one of those, I'm good. You give
me one of those. I'm good. I'll make it. I'll
make it work. I don't give a damn if he's
playing outside leverage. I don't care if he's playing head up.
I don't care if he's playing inside leverage. He cannot
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stop me from going where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He's gonna ask me what I like? Hey, you like
a Zorro here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I like Zorro day, I like Zorro. I like Zorro.
I like it, and I like it. You know, I'm
really trying to get a touchdown, so I kind of
like it, Oh, Joe, I like it to tea going in.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I ain't really try to get no first out because
they only gonna bite one time, won't Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
He's like, you got a fish and you you hook
him and he get off. He ain't biting again, not
that one.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Somebody else might get his ass another day in time,
but he not gonna bite.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that's way I look at it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like if I beat him on this arrow this time
and I get a first down, he ain't biting again.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So I'm like, I'm like, no, I.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Kind of like I kind of like, uh like in
the ten for the tsar Ro route, but anything else
might Hey you do right choice, you do basic? Hey,
you do a basic cross? Anything like that, I'm good.
I'm gucci. Hey, run Tiger far across. Hey, any anything.
Just go to AJ and say, a J, what you like?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Tell me?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Tell me, tell me what if I said, ay J,
give me your five favorite routes that you like to run. Yeah,
and let me see how I can incorporate it in
what we're doing. Because all they do, oh Joe, is
that you got your plays and you watch the film
and you see what the other teams did to their
ass last week.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And then you put that in and call it your stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
A copy cat. That's all you do is a copycat league.
And they do it every week.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Whatever they saw, whatever they saw that worked on film,
and you happen to be playing that team, they're gonna
do the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Formation might be a little different, absolutely be exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You think asked for a trade?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
No, damn, Oh shoot, you know what. I'm not in
a J shoes. I'm not I'm not in the shoes.
I don't know. I'm not sure. And and being being
how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs, and the way
he moves and thinks is much much more completely different
than that of what they think he is. Yeah, I'm
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not sure he's the type to ask for a trade,
but but he's frustrated. Davonte Smith is frustrated, for sure.
They both voiced their frustrations. I think it was maybe
last week or week before last publicly, So I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I think, uh right, because because I understand, I really do,
I really do, because I don't want people to think
I understand AJ situation. AJ said, they don't pay me
to win. They pay me for stats.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The only problem that I have stats get me paid,
not wins, not wins.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I told her, Yeah, remember I said that, Yes, I said.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That, the Only problem is that AJ. Keep that with Sirianni,
keep that with Petula, keep that with what you call them.
I say, because when you voice it outside, people are
gonna look at you as being selfish and say you
care about your stats than you do about winning, even
though that's how you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I get it. Yeah, but you're not.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Gonna be able to listit sympathy from that fan base
because we win in oh Yo, just like oh Joe,
you winning, you're like man, But y'all have won seven
games in a row. How you how you go publicly?
They tell about Man, I need to get the ball
right right. People gonna look at you as being selfish,
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although I understand what it's based on. I just wish,
like I said, I would become like a family. Football
team is a family. I guarantee you spend more time
with the with the football team than you do your real.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Family, especially during this time.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yes, from basically.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
From July when you go to training camp until your
season ends, you spend more time with them. You do,
you do, and you do everything you can to keep
everything in house when it gets out of when it
gets out, now, everybody has their own interpretation to what's
going on exactly when you keep it in house, don't nobody,
Don't nobody know, you know what the actually what's actually
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being said, You know what and how to fix it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But then once it gets out.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, and like I said, that meeting, I'm trying to
figure out who how many people know about that meeting, don't.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Joe Mighty probably upstairs. I guarantee you that somebody knows.
He's some reporter, you know, a player talking to reporter
that they probably can fide in and thought it wouldn't
get out or they wouldn't tell anybody, And all of
a sudden, the rest of the world knows.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Mm hm. Trust nothing, Trust absolutely nothing. But now what
I knew to be true all along, Killing Moore is
a damn good offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Absolutely a damn good one.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
He was good at Dallas. He was really good at Dallas.
He was great.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Normally it's
a little lull. Normally Detroit doesn't seem to be having
that problem. To Jonathon Bell, they don't be seen to
have that problem. That ag left. On the defensive side
of the football, Detroit is playing extremely well.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Remember Remember what I said, Remember I said when Ben
Johnson left, when Aaron Glynn left, I said, even though
the coach has left, the pieces of that puzzle are
still there. So you take coaches out and the pieces
of the puzzle still there, you can still put it
together right together because you still got the same pieces.
So it doesn't matter who called the player. That's why
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sometime when I hear coaching, when I hear fans say,
oh they want to they want coaches fired when things
are going well, well, hell well, if he had to
god damn players to execute, it wouldn't be no damn problem.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Bill Belichick was great and New England because he had
the pieces, including Tom and now they wanted to you
know that. I heard he might get fired sometime this
week in North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Bill, Well, what the hell you.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, people look at it.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
If you don't got Jared Rice, Randy Moss and laugh
fitz Gerald, you don't have good receivers, but laugh fist
Gerald and Jared Rice and Random Moss ain't. I mean
it takes a special type of person to fit that system.
And Randy fit the system for a couple of years,
and then all of a sudden he wanted more, and
Bill said, no, everybody's not gonna be able to go. Oh,
Joe Weeks, I count two passes this week. I caught
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four passes last week. I caught this. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Those guys are number one receivers for a
re reason.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
New England built their game of plan to win.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Other teams build the game playing around great players, right right,
that's the difference. So it's going to be very very
interesting to see how this thing plays up. I think
getting away. Hey, seriousity, Look, I don't want to see
you guys till Monday. I see you guys, Monday. Don't
worry about this tape. I see you guys Monday. Come in. Hey,
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we'll have a quick meeting. Get a lift in, get
a run in, runs over this out. I see you
guys Monday. Got Tuesday off. Let's be ready to come
back to work Wednesday and fix whatever whatever we got
going on. It's good to clear our heads. Get an
opportunity to get away from this. Hey, you don't need
to watch television, you don't need to read the paper.
Get stay off the internet, and be ready when we
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come back in here on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Let's be ready to work and get this thing done.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Get it right.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
They're gonna they're gonna have to fix it. And don't
let anything else come out the locker room. Don't say
nothing crazy after the media. I'm not sure who might
have to talk to the media after the game. I
hope they took time to allow themselves to defuse from.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Whatever anger, whatever emotions you may be having. Take a shower.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
First, Take a shower, first, pull off, then talk to
the media. Don't give them no ammunition.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I don't know what I'm surprised though.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Oo, I'm surprised how many people when they go to
the locker room.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
The first thing they do is check their phone.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Mm hmm yeah, absolutely, okay, because I'm shocked by that. Yeah,
I'm one of them.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah you played that.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You played in the era that they didn't have social media.
So I'm glad I didn't. I didn't. I didn't play
in that era. I'm glad.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah, just started, it just started. So I caught social media.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
The guys do that. You think they checked their phone
at halftime too?
Speaker 6 (36:51):
No, I don't know about I don't know about that one.
I don't know about that one. Yeah, my last year
I checked. Okay, I'm cutting the food. Let me see
what they see, what they talking about.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What they talk about on I g oh yo, what
do you think about the two four times?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Michael Parson says, this is not football with two trash emojis.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Hey, you can't stop it, don't knock it. If you
can't stop it. If the Packers were able to do it,
that wouldn't be a problem. So so I mean, toush
pushes not football. So let's let's talk about some of
the players the other teams run that nobody can stop
that aren't highlighted.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Truth.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
We're gonna start eliminating.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Plays from certain teams that do one thing specifically, well.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just because somebody can do something better than anybody can
do one thing.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah, hey, find a way to stop it. I know
how to stop it. I can't. I can't give the
formula on how to stop it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
My brother tell us all the time, he says, my
goal was to do my job, do this one thing
better than anybody else did anything.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It seems to me that the tush push, the Eagles
do this better than any other football team does anything else. Yeah,
whether it's rush the quarterback, whether it's throw the ball,
whether it's running the ball, whatever the case is, the
Eagles do the tush push better than any other football
team do any other thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
So I agree with you? Or Joe? Is it? Is
it aesthetically pleasing? No?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
No, I don't believe you should throw it out just
because somebody can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So if uh Michael Michael mikeh says it's trash, he
got the two trash cab with the guy m dump
dump in the trash, and then what you think, o, Joe.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Nah Michaeh and being the competitor he is, it's shouldn't
matter with anybody else running well, you want, you wanted
the best in the league, you top three in the league.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It shouldn't matter. You got to stop it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Tampa, Tampa, Tampa is getting what you call them getting
Big Dad is ready?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Are they dead? Don't let them move you at all.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Clog it up the best way you can.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Hey, we got a very special guest joining us, a
good friend of the show, co founder of Reddit, founder
of Apollos, Harry Is Alexis o'hannan, Max.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
What's going on doing? Pleasure, absolute pleasure to be here.
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Me, Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
We know you're one of the biggest advocate of women's issues.
What went into the thought process of creating this This
women's only track me certain events and say, you know what,
I want to do something special to highlight these great
women athletes.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Look, I'm obviously married to the goat. We can get
that out of the way. Yes you are, Serena Williams
Is you think about it though, right like you know,
it's funny. I grew up in a household. NFL was
the only thing that mattered. Football was the sport I
played and I loved. I didn't think about any other sport,
didn't watch tennis. I didn't know anything about it. Now
(40:22):
I got smart. Now I'm I'm a big fan, obviously,
But you know, at no point did I ever think
that women's tennis was less than men's. And if you
talk to any sports fan today, they'd sound crazy if
they thought or if they said that women's tennis was
less than ment's In America. Frankly, women's tennis is as popular,
(40:43):
if not more popular tennis. Look at how much money
these ladies get paid more. And obviously Serena and Venus
they were the ones who you know, brought that to
the world. But you know, tennis is the perfect example
where with investment and Billy gen King made sure those
late he's got paid. That made it possible for two
little girls in comptent to say, I'm gonna change my
(41:05):
life by playing this sport because I know I can
be excellent, get compensated for it. And then with the
generational talent, you blew up the sport made it bigger
than ever and look where we are today. And so
it happened in tennis, and I just realized, here is
another sport, track and field. I know y'all are fans
of it, the big buggest, most most played, most active, most
(41:29):
engaged sports. We had a legacy of greatness, especially in
the American women, historical and present. So you had Melissa,
Melissa Jefferson, We had anaholl tremendous talents, all of them.
And you know, every four years, these ladies are superstars.
We tune in during the Olympics, we cheer form, it's
one of the most watched sports, and then disappear. And
(41:52):
I'm just a businessman. All I want to do is
see greatness continue to get celebrated because if there are eyeballs,
there are dollars, correct you every four years, and it's
not about charity, it's about supporting these amazing athletes. And
I saw y'all during Paris offering bounties. Yeah, yeah, old medals.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, thirty seven thousand dollars for winning the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Come on, man, love that, love that, come on, and
so you know this is this is I think you
know post Reddit, I've been really blessed to do some
things in women's sports, starting Angel City, this women's soccer
team five years ago, and now I think athletics is
going to be a huge part of my legacy and
I'm just grateful to be able to hear talk about it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, this year you added, uh, the long jump. This
is times square. Will you be.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Looking to add more events in the coming in the
coming years? Uh, you know, obviously it's only a handful
of events, and I get that, but that's a start.
But in the in the in the long term, your
goal is to have how many events you think?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
You know, Look, every time we've added an event, it's
been with an anchor star. Because again, for me, social
media tells the story. Obviously the Reddit guy, I look
at follower counts, uh, and and you know I was.
I was totally naive when I got into the sport,
so obviously I knew the sprinters. I had a bias
for the sprinters. Because that's a quick story. Yeah, you
don't have to you ask a fan to pay attention.
(43:14):
I don't have to watch for very long and they're
getting an amazing show. And and you know, the longest
race we've got right now is the mile, which which
still keeps a pretty short attention span. Obviously, faif kit
be a Gong was going again for the world record.
You got to go right you good especial and but
Tar Davis Woodhall or I'm repping here. You know. I
invited her. She's got millions of followers on social media.
(43:35):
She's a long jumper, gold medalist for the United States
and the world champion and the world champion exactly and
uh and I said, why don't you come to the show,
come to Athlos and she said, I won't come unless
I'm competing. Okay, channel's accepted, So we put her on
actually tonight in Times Square. So I'm still coming off
the high I got. Can't be too loud here because
my babies are asleep in the hotel suite and you know,
(43:56):
went to the room. But we had an amazing night
in Times Square. Look at the clips. I mean, we
had the best long jumpers in the world. We shut
down Times Square and these ladies were running. The top
three are gonna now compete tomorrow. There's the photos. The
top three are gonna compete tomorrow at Icon, to which
you all are both invited. Track side Swee, I'm waiting
(44:18):
for you. We've got cr performing DJ Traumas spinning in
between the races. We're gonna have you know, the fastest
ladies in the world. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
You got Faith Kba Gunn in the fifteen hundred meters.
You got Keey Hopkins, the eight hundred meter Olympic gold medalist.
You got Massiah Russell the one hundred meter Olympic gold
mess in the hurdles, you got Marilidi Paulino, the gold
medalist into four hundred meters, and you got a Lexis
Home who's a four x four world champion and mixed
relay world champion. Much of the complaint from the track
(44:46):
community of Lexus has been the lack of visibility because,
like you said, the big events only happened. The big
event only happens once every four years, so it's like
they go dorm. It's like we hibernate. So we get
excited twenty twenty four yeay, yay yay, and then I
got away all the way to twenty twenty eight to
do it again.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Too much, and we want to get behind you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
You know, we like we like baseball and football and
basketball players because guess what we see them every year.
We get a roof for I get, I better get
being able to root for Lebron for twenty three years.
They got a roof of COVID for twenty years. I
got to root with these guys. But I gotta wait
once every four year to see my my favorite athlete competing.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
No, it's it's it's ridiculous. And you look at the
numbers again, none of this. Don't ever get this twisted. No,
this is about charity. You look at the numbers. Track
and field is one of the most viewed sports during
the Summer Olympics, millions of people, and so you know,
we were we were quite happy last year. We had
three million people on broadcast tune in. We're expecting more
of this year and then our plan for next year
(45:50):
we've announced it. So it'll be a team based track
and field league. So instead of just one meets, we're
gonna have multiple meets in major cities. Think of it
like the Formula One of track and field. So companies
like Mercedes and Ferrari, they have F one cars. They
spend tons of money basically for marketing. Right, so you
could think of some great apparel brands I wouldn't you know,
(46:12):
I could point to if you might think of that
want to be associated with speed and excellence. So imagine
those as teams, and then imagine now you have a
way to see the very best to do it in
this team format, similar to like NC DOUBA and so
you can imagine you've got I mean, if we just
say there's a hypothetical Nike team, you know you've got
(46:33):
shitkri You've got Tar Davis, Woodhall, You've got so many
of these champs that now get to share a team,
not just around the Olympics, around a nation, but around
a brand. And it starts to change the economics now
because if I'm one of these shoe companies, I'm on
these apparel companies, just like Mercedes wants to be associated
with speed and excellence and hold that trophy the Constructor's
(46:54):
Cup the end of Formula One. You're also going to
be able to test a new technology on the track
with the fastest athletes. And you're also going to start
telling a story which is look, if we're spending this
kind of money on a team, you know, Lewis Hamilton
knows what he's worth because he knows what it means
to Ferrari to have the best to do it. I
think this starts to have a very positive impact in
(47:14):
the way that we value these athletes. And as soon
as they're valued that way, they're going to get marketed more.
Their stories are going to get told. And I want
to buy a jersey. I want to buy a tar
Davis Woodhall T shirt with her name and her number
and her team on it. Right, I can buy a
single jersey. I can buy a Shannon Sharp jersey. Can't.
I can't buy a jersey for any track and field
athletes because it doesn't exist, not yet.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
So let me get let me, let me make sure
I'm hearing you correct.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So you'll have teams, and so these teams will be
made up from men and women.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
From all across the world.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
So you might have Keeley Hoskins being a teammate of
Melissa Jefferson, who might be a teammate of Faith Kip Yeag.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So it would it be something like the Unrival League.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
You see how Unrivaled, Like they got teammates on one
team like the w n b A, but they're on
different teams around you know, when they playing Arrival.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So you're talking about something like that. Those kind of teams.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
For sure in that you know, and we love the
unrival of folks fee, and they've done a great job.
The difference would be our teams would be more than
likely built around a brand. But imagine that scenario exactly.
And so now if I'm sitting here now, obviously Nike's
(48:27):
got a great roster, but you can't sleep on New
Balance with Sid and Gabby. There's lots of talents, all right, yes,
And so now imagine if you were any of these
other brands, or any of the brands, really you want
to win, because just like you're if you're Ferrari, you
want to make sure you're holding up that troph at
the end of the season. And so it'll mean let's
say we added a couple other sports, maybe even throwing
(48:50):
a thrower. You start now seeing a broader team composition
and and and these brands are incentivized now to build
out that roster and to support those athletes in marketing
as well as in you know, physios and support all
this other stuff. And I think really level up the
way we think about what these brands can do. And
now you better believe just like if I watch, I
(49:12):
don't know, watch Mercedes win a Formula One race, it
incentivizes me to want to buy a Mercedes Sedan. So
imagine if I'm a sneaker company, how much it would
mean to me to have you know, the top, to
see the closed team and what that means to move
sneakers to everybody else, whether you're you know, whether you're
running your hundredth marathon or you're doing your first five k,
(49:33):
like you want to feel like the best to do it.
And so why wait four years? I think you're absolutely right,
we shouldn't. There's still great athletes even outside of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Let me ask you something off topic, please, You and
s Arena competitive.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Extremely banefly though thankfully though not in tennis. I've never
picked up a racket. Uh yeah, no, and you know,
thankfully both of our daughters and herited most of my
wife's athletic jeans. Although you know, big fella, I still
i'd like to say I contributed some hype to the girls, but.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Pop yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
But you know, I it's it's really interesting. We're incredibly
competitive in very different ways. And uh and it's a
blessing because I think, you know, in tech in particular,
we delude ourselves into thinking we're the hardest working folks
in the room. You know, the industry, look, text done
amazing stuff, certainly for my career, and the industry thinks
a lot of itself. I always recommend friends of mine,
(50:35):
other CEOs in the industry. I say, just just if
you're single, right, data professional athlete, spend time with professional
athletes and what you see, and I'm preaching at the
choir here the the amount of fortitude, determination, the will
power of a professional athlete. And I have to say
the solo athletes too, our next level. Yeah, you know,
(51:00):
those sol athletes are bill different. There is a absolutely
another level of intensity and determination and work ethic and
an incredible, incredible competitiveness. Uh and so I knew, I
knew I met my match because I really thought it
was the hardest work in the room and the most competitive.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
But uh yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a different perspective
because when you're in the tech industry or you're married,
you're asking your significant other to understand your work hours
and what's necessary.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
As an athlete, they're.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Asking their spousal, their significant other to understand the sacrifice.
So now they get an opportunity to see what each
other have asked the other party to do.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
So now you're like I.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Am so sorry, babe, I am so I did not
realize that I had put this kind of pressure and
ask you to do so much more out of your.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
I never had that fight. We have never had that
fight about me putting in too many hours, because she
understood that someone who knows, she knows, she knows what
it takes. And you know, I'm not, I'm not breaking
the barrier she's breaking in order to be great. But
still she knows what it takes and and and that
that work. Alex shines man. And so it's it's fun.
(52:16):
We're competitive, but in really good ways.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
And that's and two, that's that's the dope thing.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
When you always think about people throwing around the word
power couple all the time, they throw the word power
couple around based on aesthetics, based on not the intangibles
that that that you don't get to see or you
get you don't get here. So it's really dope to
hear the dynamic and in which you to share coming
from two different totally different fields tech.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
World, let's be honest, the obvious, the elephant in the
room here, yeah, Serena, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's big elephants.
Comics fan that's not that's not the elephan in the room,
rob from very different worlds, even though she is a
DC fan, I don't get it. I'm a Marvel guy.
(53:03):
It's obviously better. But uh, yeah, no, I know, but
it's uh, like I said, you you find the commonality
and uh, and it's it's definitely been a hell of
a ride.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You know, we got to find y'all, you know, because
you know you had benefer and and you know, we know,
you know, we gotta get you got you got, you
gotta get a name.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
I tried, I really tried so hard to avoid that
side of celebrity. No, no, And here's the thing, like,
and that's that's you know, to my wife's credit, and
she and Venus is the exact same way. Both those
girls had to be so famous so early, and and
you know, you've already got the pressure of you know,
(53:49):
you know, having to carry so much responsibility going into
that sport, the way they were total outsiders and deal
with all the bullshit they had to deal with. And uh,
and they became famous very young. And you know, I
don't need to tell you how many stories of people
to whom that happens, where it just goes off the rails, right,
and they have always been remarkably grounded. Credit to you know,
(54:11):
mister Williams and miss oor Scene, Like they did a
really good job grounding them in that. And it's funny because, like,
even to this day, it's never been about the celebrity part.
It's like, the funniest thing people don't realize is, you know,
some of the best days that I know she has
and we have are some of the most boring suburban
(54:32):
parents dates, right, It's taking our daughter to ballet. It's
a lot of things, frankly, that I think a lot
of folks probably take for granted because they imagine, oh, well, geez,
I'd want to be on the carpet, I'd want to
be holding up the US Open trophy, I want to
be doing all this stuff, which is great stuff, don't
get me wrong. But it's funny when you see someone
who's been at the top of the mountain, who's had everything,
(54:54):
it's interesting the things that they value most are some
of the things that most of us spend all our lives,
you know, trying to sort of set aside while we're
trying to do the other thing. And it's those simple
joys man.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
I want to you know, Alice, when you told, when
you told you boys, man, guess are you boy dating?
Speaker 1 (55:11):
You never go get who your boy going out with?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, they probably started rolling out the man not even
close bigger than them, Bigger than that, you know that
give you boy some credit.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So when you told, when you told your home the
guy that.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
You're very close to, these are these are my guys?
I know, yeah you were you told about since I
was five, that's how okay, since kindergarten, first grade, okay,
and uh, you know what, honestly, they weren't that surprised
and what that says. I mean, okay, I'll be okay,
let's just speak. I wasn't out here, you know, just
casually dating the greatest of all time across. But but
(55:54):
you know, I I don't know. I think these guys
got used to me do doing really exceptional crazy stuff
and and even you know, starting a company, ride out
of college all that stuff. I mean, look, I think,
uh it was it was actually really sweet. My my pops,
my dad, and he was the guy who whenever, whenever
(56:17):
tennis would come on TV and change the channel, right
because we were a football household. Everything else was like
a coentry. It was a country club hobby. It wasn't
a real sport. And and remember telling my dad and
he kind of paused and he was just like, wait
one more time. He because he thought I was punking him.
He thought I was kidding and h and he's like,
you're you're dating who? And I was like Serena Woods
(56:39):
And he's like, Okay, come on, come on, come on,
there's no way you're not even what.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Do you what do you know?
Speaker 4 (56:45):
You don't know any about tennis. How did you meet her?
That's just crazy? And uh and but you know, my boys,
to their credit, they didn't they didn't bust my child's
too much. And uh, I don't know. I think, look,
it's on its services. Pretty surprising. And I will say
the probably one of the most satisfying parts about it
(57:06):
was at the time I had just come back to
Reddit and we had met, I mean folks, and we
met randomly. There was a breakfast at a hotel in
Rome of all places, and I was going to try
to escape the job. I had been there for six months,
seven days a week, like I wasn't My head of
comms was like, you got to get it you got
to go on a trip, like get out of here.
You're just redlining. And she sent me to Rome to
(57:26):
do the speaking gig. I didn't want to go do it,
but I did. And I just pulled up at breakfast
one morning and basically Serena and her team tried to
get me to move. I didn't move, and she was like,
my team was planning on sitting there, and I was like,
that's fine, they can come join me. And you know,
we started a conversation and she pretended like she knew
what Reddit was, and this was twenty fifteen. She was
(57:48):
trying to be really polite, but she really had no
no clue. And I mean, to be honest with it
was that big back then anyway. But thankfully, thankfully we
kept the conversation going and she was curious enough about
the tech industry to the rest.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know, Alex, I'm gonna get you out of here.
This when a guy once told me, he said, he
asked me a question. He said, Shawn, you know why
movie stars marry other movie stars? And I'm like, they
like each other. I mean, he said no, he said,
because the other know what it's like to live in
that world. You know, what it's like to devote time
to be great. She knows what it's like to devote
time to be great. So you guys know what it's
(58:29):
like to live in the other's world and you bring
these worlds together, you know.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
What, And I'll tell you I will. It is obvious,
how much, like you said, having someone who is just
so motivated on so many mothers, and I see the
role model she is for our daughters. You couldn't ask
for a better mother of your children. She also taught
me that there is more seasoning than just salt and pepper.
(59:00):
No idea you could do. You see some other than
just song peppers. So I've learned a lot, but no,
I really I feel I feel so fortunate. It's like
I said, it's been out of a journey. And then
as a fun surprise, she's actually going to be handing
out the Tiffany Crowns at a Flo's tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Wow, that's the uh.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
And she was feeling left out last year and so
she was like, hey, I want I want to be
a part of this. And so it's gonna be a
lot of fun for the ladies. So on top of
the cash prize record breaking, there getting those Tiffany Crowns.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Well, we missed it. We missed it this year, but
I promise you we'll be there next year.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Got to and we're gonna multiple meets, so New York
will be that's you and I. You know, we talked
to that a lot of them doing the Olympics. We
talked to them doing the World Championships, and we hey,
we want to help any way we possibly can to
grow the sport of track and field.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Obviously we're we're very women friendly. We want them to
be the past. Alexis, thanks for joining the night. Tell
Serena hello, and we'll talk to you against Shannon Chat.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Y'all are amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yes, appreciate your bro Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Uh uh tickets are Tickets for the Apollos New York
City are also on sale now at appolos dot com.
Make sure you go get those tickets. See your favorite
track and field athletes compete. Hey, Massa already says she
got her cash. I'm ready, so she's ready to get Hey,
(01:00:29):
just put it in good to go.
Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
As matter of fact, I think I should I should compete.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Huh No next year, Okay, let them let let them
have their let them have their moments. Thank Fallic, appreciate
your man, best of look on everything. We'll see you
down the road.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Yeah
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