Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Cincinnati Bengals trading for Joe Flacco to help their QB situation, the Cleveland Browns head coach Stefanski still won’t commit to Shedeur as QB 2, and World Champion Anna Hall joins the show and much more!
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not for the Cleveland Browns for your Cincinnati Bengals. He
will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach Zach
Taylor announced sixth Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra division
trade Tuesday. They sent a twenty twenty six fifth round
draft pick to the Browns in exchange for Flacco and
a twenty twenty six sixth round draft pick. This is
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how rare sin I think in this century. Only twice
as it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew Bledsoe
to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan McNabb
to the Washington They were not the commanders at the time,
you know what they were. But he got traded intra division.
So only three times as a quarterback that I can
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think of a trade like this going down.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Let's run down. Let's run down what happened.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Joe Flacco was traded O Jo's guy wasn't being able
to Jake Browning was not being able to hold up
to it because what was supposed to happen. Your backup
is supposed to be able to keep you afloat until
your starter comes back. That's what a backup is supposed
to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati being was like, look,
(04:29):
we've got a lot of money invested and Chase and Higgins,
and we gave fourteen more million dollars to a Trey Hendrickson,
so we need to try to maximize this. We can't
just give up on the season because our quarterback is
not fulfilling his obligation, which is the keep of the
float to if and win. Joe, excuse me, Joe Burrow
came back. Doesn't look like that was happening, And so
(04:51):
they made the move. So Cleveland said Joe Flacco and
a twenty twenty sixth sixth round draft pick and returns
the being gonna send them a twenty twenty six fifth
round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We're getting it right for you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
How Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the
starter to now be in the backup in Cincinnati?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Are you know?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm trying to respond the right way. Obviously I'm pissed,
and if I wasn't pissed, then I shouldn't be in
this locker room. And it's important to me, and you know,
I'm aware of the role I played and the offensive
struggles over the last few weeks. And you know, but
I'm also on my shouldering the entire situation. And you know,
I went through yesterday, watch my throws, tried to come
(05:37):
up with some stuff that I want to work on,
and she's doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
O Jo, the thing of quarterbacks supposed to do. Say
look it's on me. I did not play. Don't say
I'm not going to shoulder all of the blame. We
know you, all the blame is not on you, But
at that moment, when you're in front of the camera
as the leader of that offense, you say, like, look
that's on me. I didn't play well enough to get
the job done. So I understand why the Bengals made
that decision. If and when my time comes back up,
(06:06):
I'll be more prepared. And I promise you Bengals fans,
this organization, my teammates, I won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Take off with Joe Aby Listen.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Obviously, most of the time in that situation, as a quarterback,
being the face being that Joe Burrow is absent, you
have to take on this. You have to take all
that on your shoulders because you are at the quarterback.
Because much is expected of you once you were at
that position, and you are the one who handles the
ball the most outside.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Of everyone else.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
With that being said, you look at our team and
where we are right now. We're two and three. We
still have time to be able to salvage the season.
I think then continue to stick with Jake Brown based
on the last two performance that we've seen, it would
have been malpracticed by the coach. I think Zach Taylor
might be on the hot seat. Yeah, listen, it's not funny.
(06:54):
This is a serious matter. This is not a left
matter for us. The fans are in pay. I'm impatient.
I think upstairs they're also in patient because they've invested
money in that office. In line, they're investing money in
Joe Burrow, They're investing money in Tea and Jamar Chase
and another especially offensively in general, and they want to
see a return on that investment.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Correct, Joe Burrow's down.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Joe Burrows down, next man up, the next man up
is not playing well at all.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
So we're two and three right now, what do you
want to do?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
We want to get someone else who is a veteran
presence that has won a Super Bowl. Maybe they can
come in and steer the ship. They keep it from sinking,
similar to like the Titanic. We don't want to hit
the iceberg.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
So can Joe.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Flacco come in and steer the ship and dodge a
few icebergs? Now, we might, we might sing a little bit,
but we don't want to just go all the way
goddamn under I'm We're going to see what can happen.
It all starts with number one. We have a gun
slinger at the quarterback position that has a hell of
a army, but he's not mobile. Jake Browning was mobile,
(08:00):
and he was running for his life.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes, Jo.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
My offensive line, if you guys do see this, I
beg of you. I implore you to raise your level of
play for us offensively to have any success moving forward,
starting right now this week against that Packers defense.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh Garrett, oh wott, Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
My Bengals officive line. We need to set the tone.
We need we need to set the tone.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
All five of you. Orlando Brown, come on, baby, you
got to come to the party. Brother Mems, you got
to come to the party. Right guard, left guard, Tar Carris,
we got to come to the party. As we go,
as the officer line goes, our team goes. The game
of football is one up front, it's one in the trenches.
(08:54):
And for us to continue to continue to compete, not
only the f C North, but the NFL in general
for the rest of the season, we have to win
up front.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
That's what it starts with. If we went up front,
everything else becomes easy. Offensively.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I can tell looking at the chat that there are
not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking
to obticcagate blame. If you go look at just look
at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen Hurts. Watch
out when they lose a game, how he talks with
Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose. Look how
they talk. You don't talk about I don't shoulder all
(09:32):
the blame. You said this on me. I need to
play better, and I will. I understand why the organization
did what they did because I wasn't getting the job done.
If and when I get another opportunity, Oh Joe, the
only reason he's on the roster is that when Joe
Burg got hurt last time, he did a well enough
job and say, you know what, we got a backup.
(09:53):
If Joe goes down for three to four weeks. We
got a guy that can hold it in the road
for us. We have a self driving car. I've been
seeing a lot of self driving cars late, and I'm like,
hold on, I saw the car driving around on Joe.
I was looking at him, and so I said, hold
wait a minute. Ain't nobody driving right right?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I put the thing and stop if somebody got out,
I said.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I heard people talk about it, oh Joe, but that's
my first time seeing what right right? So that's what
That's what Jake Browning was. He was a self driving car,
like man Joe out.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Jake got this.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We saw him against Jacksonville. You remember that Thursday night game,
Oh Joe against Jacksonville. Yeah, he played well. That's what
gave you the confidence to say what you were saying,
because you had seen him in moments like this, Yes,
rise to the occasion, play extremely well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Happened, because here's the thing, on Joe, expectations are the
number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Because see, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I tell guys all the time, I said, you
know what, the easiest thing I ever did with me
the pro Bowl because nobody was expecting it. Now, guess
what happens when they build a game plan around you
and the defense build a game plan to stop you gait.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Hold on, stay right there because I know you for
the cook. Hold on now, hold on because let me
tell you something. I got my penning pad. Now I
know you fin the cook. Go ahead now, So that's
what happens, O Joe. See you see what happened. Expectations.
Jake Brownie had immense expectations. Why, O Joe, because the
(11:32):
Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Even though Joe burrows down.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They believe, Man, we have enough offensively to right this
ship until Joe gets back. We got chased. We got
the best receiving in football. We believe we got another
top fifteen receiving football. We got a guy that can
run the ball. There ain't no reason for us to
be scoring three points, ten points, be down thirty four
to three going into the fourth quarter with the offensive
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weapons that we got.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So now the expectations and you feel that living up,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It was easy.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Your kids. See, your kids got expectations you never had.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Your dad, your dad on't your Sinco. Yeah, the pro bowler,
the one that's on night Cap. Yeah, Now they got expectations.
You didn't have to deal with your mom. Your people
were like they might say, oh you Hurricane Paul Paul
Paul Paul letter Son mm hmm. But now you put
(12:34):
so much expectations on your kids because see, only people
in the neighborhood knew your You knew your mom, knew
your grandma. You're a worldwide commodity. They see that last name,
they say, hold on, what's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh Joe, that's my dad. That's your dad.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Now what you play? When you playing, what you're doing,
you do so what you do in sports.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But you want to be when you grow up.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Now you see Jake Brown had those expectations with that offense.
He was supposed He wasn't supposed to be Joe Burrow.
He was just supposed to be that self driving car.
To keep it in the road.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh you just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Don't crash, that's all you gotta do something. I don't
even need you to win this race. Just get the
car around the track and don't crash. Keep it the
first gear.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
See I told you it was Finna Cook.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Because see I already know what's gonna happen when you
get the fourth. You need to burn the clutch out
of you're gonna script the gear. What you're gonna do with, Joe?
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Hold on now, hold on, I don't need you to
win the race. I just need you to get the
car around the track. But that's a bar.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Get it around the track.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
That's a bar. You don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You didn't even understand I did.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Let me write this down. Hold on that were you cooking?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
God damn? But you need to be a pastor.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hey, I don't need Jake. I don't need Jake. You
think we need you to be? Fifteen and two? Right?
Get us the ten? Can you? Can you get us
the level? Can you keep us?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can you get us the ten and seven? Get us
the ten and seven? Ten and seven? Might be might
be something, might be something we can look at.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, look that's what.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The Texas one and four, the Titans one and four. Okay,
they got two teams in that division are playing really well.
You got the AFC South, you got the Jags, and
you got the Coats.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
They cutting up, they cutting up, they cutting up. It's
funny two of the teams are always three and four.
Now one and two battling with a chance to win
that division in the FC South, well obviously, well let
me take that back, because when Peyton Manny was there,
they dominated THEFC for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Absolutely just saying it.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
As of recent it hasn't been like that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, no, no, no no. Basically since Andrew Luck left
it hadn't been like that.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Heyst I'm excited. You think about what we are to
as a Bengal fan.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I'm sure we have some Bengal fans in the chat
and just fans of football in the chat in general.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
If you think about it us and what we are
right now, we at the bottom. We at the bottom.
There's nowhere else. There's no other place we can go.
But from this point, based on what we saw last week,
that's only one place we can go. We got Flack
over there. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
What choice do you have? O yo?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
And then and then a lot of people. You got
some people obviously hear some Bagel fans. Oh why we
go get Joe Flack?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
There were no viable options. It's about well, why didn't
we get anybody who would run? Why we ain't get
anybody mobile who's out there.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
That is Amazon quarterback exactly.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
This ain't this, ain't madn This is real life. This
is real life.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What we need is not like quarterbacks are like like
goddamn apple tree, you just go pick when you won't
to replace the next one. That is one of the
reasons why it's so difficult to not only find a quarterback,
but find a transcending generational talent like a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You can't replace it. No, you can't replace Lamar Jackson
if he's injured, as you can see with the Ravens struggling.
You can't replace a goddamn Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes
or Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You can.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But can we get Can we get to Carson Wentz?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the
Minnesota Vikings until JJ McCarthy comes back, because he's making
it hard on Kevin O'Connell to put JJ McCarthy ass
back in the ball game considering how well he's actually playing.
Since JJ McCarthy has been out more touchdown, fewer interceptions,
that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Look in this situation, you're not gonna make it difficult
for them not to put Joe Burrow ass back in there.
He's making far too much money and he's a far
superior quarterback to what you are. But with that being said, bro,
you gotta this is how bad is this is how
bad Jake Browning is. His qb are is actually higher
than Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But when you desperate on your aid, somebody say, man, look,
if one aspirin, if if two aspirin ll clean, uh
will clear your head? You'll you won't have a headache,
and say an hour. Well, and and that's what Jared
Crowns jered Ryan's Dorris asked Michael Jordan. But it's a
true analogy. You know, one as take two aspirins. Uh,
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passion subside, subside in a couple of hours. What if
I take ten, it's probably gonna kill you? And he asked, Mike,
would you take ten? He said, well, how bad is
my headache?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Ooh?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams
do desperate things. This was a desperate move because of
your actuality. The quarterback that you had starting is actually
playing better than the quarterback you're replacing him with. But
let when you see it when you get desperate on
your When you get desperate, you make desperate decisions. You
don't think clearly, you don't see clearly. All I know
is that my guy isn't playing. Well, well, let's grab
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that guy. You do realize that guy got benched. Also, Yes,
I can see if you got to hey, I want
to trade for your starter. No, you traded for a
guy that got bitch.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Can I say something?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yes, we traded for a guy that got benched, obviously,
but the guy that got benched that's coming to the
Bengals has a much better supporting cast around him right now,
for now.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Again, the one.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Issue I did say, because the spike coming, the spike
coming here to a much better supporting cast.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
If that front four or that front five what it is, five,
don't do what they need to do and be a
wall for two seconds. Give me a wall for two seconds.
That's all I need. Give me two. If you can
give me two, we can do something with one.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
In five, well, you better you better keep a flac
on the shotgun because they're gonna take him longer.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The three that's getting this drop back.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Yes, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
We can put it back there in the shotgun already process,
so we can already process. He can see what's in
front of them right away, and it doesn't take him
that much long to get that ball out.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
And you know one thing about flack O boy, he
got an arm.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Oney, Oh he could throw it. Now he can make
He can still make all the throws. Now he's gonna
throw Chasing Higgins about three. Now he gonna throw the
other the team about two. Now it's just a matter
whether they're gonna catch him or not. Because he gonna
give everybody. He's an equal opportunity employer. He believed, he
believes in d I diversity, equity inclusion, so he gonna diversify, touchdown,
the interception he gonna make kis the quality, and he
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gonna include the defense. And what the hell he doing?
So I'm just letting y'all know of Bengo fans. You
are listen. You remember him when he was at there
the Ravens, You remember him when he was at Cleveland.
You already know, and you just got a glimpse of
it earlier this year, so you know who and what
he is.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Think you're gonna get twenty twelve, playoff Flaco. That is,
he would never ever able to replicate. He could never
really put a regular season together like he could those
playoff runs.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh Joe, he had some of the great playoff runs.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
A crazy work in the playoffs. Crazy work.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
But again, you think about what he had offensively with
the Ravens, even back then, with that playoff runt. Yes,
run Hill, I could just I honestly, I can honestly
say throughout this entirety of his career, he ain't never
had nothing like he got worker.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No no, no, no no no no. He had a better
offensive line, but he didn't have You know, I'm trying
to think who was his running back back then. I
don't even remember who's running back was. I know a
Kwan Bowler was one of the receivers.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Twenty seven Ray Rice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Yes, I believe so okay, I believe so yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But I think the thing is, O Joe, he's gonna
need time to throw. Like you said, he doesn't have mobility.
He's not a guy that you can move. I mean,
are you gonna move the pocket with him? You can't
zone read with him, I mean you're limited basically a
O Joe, he's a drop back. He's a prototypical seventies
eighty drop back quarterback, That's what he is. He's kinda
like these quarterbacks that we have today. All the quarterbacks
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day are slightly mobile, some more than noble or others.
But oh, Joe, he is what he is.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
And you yeah, I mean listen, even Joe Burrow and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Joe Burrow ain't God damn Josh Allen, but his ability
to manipulate the pocket. Yeah, see pressure and being able
to escape it and make throws down the field is
second to none. He's really good at escaping the pocket
despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks
that just name are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well.
And the owners, it all comes down to the office
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of line.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, and as.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
They go, the better they play, the better we play offensively.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I think they're gonna try to look. You go in
the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman.
If somebody comes available, you know, o Jo. In free
agency you get somebody to come to your team, you
have to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot
where he's been the last three four, five years, six years,
seven years, whoever, he's gotten comfortable, he's established himself in
the community. If he has a wife, his wife is
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an interest in the community. If you've got kids, they
got friends and they been in school. So you're gonna
have to overpay to get one of those guys, or
an offensive tackle or a guard or a center to
come join your team. So you're gonna have to overpay
to get one of those guys. And then you know,
you go in the draft and you try to find
the better offensive lineman because you're gonna be drafting pretty
high up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
If this thing doesn't get turned around, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Unfortunately, that's that's you know, you might end up being
a top ten And I don't know, like I said,
I haven't seen any projections just yet, but there might
be a situation where you have to go in and
take a lineman in the top ten. Now we know, Look,
Anthony Munjos is the best offensive lineman that they've had. Willie,
I know, I know, big Willy late he from my
home state, went to Alburn.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But listen, you guys need the offensive line bad. O Joe.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, we do, we do. I'm just hoping those young bulls,
those young bulls that we do have, especially those that
have gotten paid. They've been paid a nice ransom. I'm
hoping they can show up and pay dividends, you know,
and play like the money that they received so far.
I'm excited for them, obviously getting Joe Burrow. Despite where
we are right now, we're still two and three. The
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season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do. But
the only way to allow Joe to cook, the only
way he can be that chef head chef, is he
needs a little time. If he gets a little time
on you give Joe anytime. Boy, he is surgical with
that ball. That's for any of you that in the
chat that no football, even though we can't move, he
(23:12):
got an harmony. Yes, we got two of the best.
He got he got the best, maybe arguably depending on
who you asked, the best dude to throw too. So
I'm excited, I'm optimistic, and we can't go anywhere but
up from here because we're at the bottom of the
barrel right now.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Kevin Stefanski was noncommental on whether rookie should do a
Sanders or practice squad. Bailey Zappi would be the team's
backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to
the Bengals. Stefanski said he would let let the play
let the week play out, and make the decision later
would ask about QB two row. Stefanski also would not
say if the team would sign Zappy to the active
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roster ahead of Sunday's game, so that one of the
backups would serve as the inactive emergency quarterback.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh Joe, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's already been report ordered that Bailey Zappi was taking
the a lot of the practice squad snaps.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yeah, basically, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment. He's
Kevin Stefangus making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
He's making it basic Maury Povins.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
When Maury Povins does the goddamn DNA test and the
girl or the girl gets up screaming and they run
around with the camera. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's exactly what
he's making. He's making a mockery of the situation and
enjoying it. Yeah, he's enjoying it. Just enounce the goddamn quarterback?
Who quarterback number two? If Bailey Zappi has been taking
the practice grafts. Knowing that Door Joe Flacka'm gone. If
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Sadu was already number three and goddamned dinner with Gable
goes to number one and Joe Flack, I'm going, then
that makes goddamn Steward number two.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Why are we playing these goddamn mind games like what.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
My foe if he was Let's just say, for the
sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when Joe Flacco
was there, Joe Flacco was one, Bailey Zappi was two.
Excuse me, Dylan Gaber was two. Should Do was three?
But the report said Bailey Zappi was getting the practice squad.
They signed them off somebody else's team and put him
on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps
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that should Door should be getting. So with that being said,
I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graver gonna
be taking all those reps and somehow, come game come
this regular season, should Door Sanda's gonna pull vault in
front of him?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So if Bailey Zappi.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Is taking those reps practice squad reps, ojo, what's the likelihood?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Now I'm not saying it can't happen. But what's the likelihood.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Hey, I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I don't know. I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm not so sure Cleveland know what they do with
Maybe they're waiting on Deshan to come back.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It says he's been out there, he's been throwing and
I don't know, Ojo, but I just know. Look, they've
made a mockery of this. Uh, we've talked about Cleveland
more in the first six weeks of this year than
we have at any point in time. And it's out
all good, But I don't know what. I really don't
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know what to make of this. It's, uh, we're gonna
let it play out. What I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What you're gonna let play out?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I can see if this was a training camp battle, ohoe,
and let it play out. I'm trying to figure out
what can someone do in a week of practice? Oho,
that's gonna change your mind from where you stand right
now to me, like, oh, well he had a great
week of practice.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Who did you nothing at all?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Again? That's why I said they making a market situation.
That's all failt this little mini.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's not a it's uh, they're asking him, they're asking
your door, Uh, what what do you know? What do
you what do you mean as that's Dylan Gabriel, You
ask him what do you think about? I'm not playing
as Dylan Gabriel. What is his think about Joe Flacco
being traded? Why are you asking me? I'm the backup
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to the backup that just got started. See they're always
trying to put a microphone because they're always trying to
get him the slip up. They're always trying to catch
him off his guard.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
O't Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
They're trying to They always try it. They don't ask.
They don't ask any other quarterback. They don't ask the
third string, or they don't ask the practice squad guy.
What do you think about somebody getting traded? But somehow
the microphone always seemed to find Shu door. They're hoping
he mess up. They hope he has a proverbial slip
You see, that's why he's not started. You see, he
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needed to keep his mind closed. You see, this is
why he need what he.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Is the news cycle. It's the last name in general.
They haven't had somebody this polarizing. That's not even in
that's not even in an important role as of yet.
They never had anybody like this before. They haven't and
they don't even know how to handle the situation in general.
Most of the time, in a situation like this, when
you have something as polarizing, a polarizing figure like that,
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you do everything you can to stay away from it.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
But no, they're engaging with it in purpose. They keep
the Cleveland Browns in the news cycle. No different than
the god damn Dallas Cowboys, No damn different.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Man if I should do? I say, look, man if,
and when I'm starting? When? When?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
When Coach Stefans can tell me I'm starting, then I'll
talk to you, guys, what other backup quarterback they talking to?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
You can't do that, though, but you understand the rules.
Though you know you understand the rules.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But I'm trying to figure out, Oh Joe, I'm trying
to think. They're not asking James Whinson no questions. They're
not asking Russ any questions. Now, all the questions are
the Jackson dark are the guardiat right?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right? So I'm my only thing is okay?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So why do you continuously ask a backup that's not playing?
Why are you continuously asking why are you continuously asking
them questions?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What do you hope? What do you what do you
hope to get from him?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I can tell you what they're hoping. I can sound
like I'm know I know what they're hoping.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Also, Hey, they hoping like when you go of the Army,
like when you go to the Marines, like when you
go to the Navy. They're trying to break you in
the beginning to see if you are the one. Are
you built for this mentally? That's all they waiting on you.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Snap. They waiting on the snap. I'm telling you. He
has to understand it. I can see.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
I can see the play I can see the play
all the way. I can see the play way before
it happened, all the way before a start. How can
you not see it?
Speaker 7 (29:26):
If you understand the game and the game that they're playing,
I can see it in clear as day. Your only
coming out and saying some of the things he said,
he got training camp.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Oh, I see what this is. Okay, Now I got
to play the game. I see what I see what
you're all trying to do. Right, You got to play
the game. Now you you in their structuring environment. You
got to play by their rules.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Listen, even even I was in that position at one point,
he ain't wet. I got my toe in the water.
I got my toe in the water, but my feet
ain't wet just as yet. But once I got in
the water fully. Oh but you've seen, you've seen.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Every bit of day County, Liberty City come up out
of me.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And uh hey, ladies and gentlemen, we got a very
special guest joining us. We got the world champion and
the helped Tathlon, which signifies the greatest woman helped tathlete
in the world the world. She won gold in Tokyo,
she won silver in Budapest, she won bronze and Eugene
Florida Gator Alum.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Here she is Anna hall Anna. How are you hello?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I'm Bella. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I saw a thing a year maybe a year maybe
it was leading up to the Olympics where a Jackie Joyner,
who happened to be the greatest heptathlete ever created back
to back gold medals in eighty eight ninety two, won
the silver in eighty four. She even won the gold
medal in the long jumping soul and then won bronze,
Bronze and Barcelona and Atlanta. When you when you sit
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down and talk to her, what did she tell you
that gave you the confidence that, you know what, I
can be an Olympic champion, I can be a world champion.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah. I think she's spoken like so much into me,
which I'm so thankful for. I actually talked to her
today very close. But really from the first time I
met her, she was always just like you, no, I
see it in you, like I believe in you and
I know you can do this. And she started telling
me that back in twenty twenty two when I was
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still on the team at the University of Florida. Actually
so for her to say that when I was so young,
and I feel like I didn't see it in myself
yet really made a difference. And then now along the
way she'll like like she was texting me in between
events and Tokyo and.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
She knows she holds the standards like I have for myself.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
So yes, even when some of them weren't what I wanted,
she was like, keep your head up, like you've got this,
just let it go. And it means so much because
I know she's been there, like, I know she does
exactly what I'm feeling in situations when we're down under
the stadium trying to regroup.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
So you she that world record. She said that in
soul uh seventy two ninety one. If I'm not mistaken,
she was the first woman to generates seven thousand points
in the hyptathalon. You reached that mark. I know she's
your mentor, I know she's your role model. But you're like, yeah,
(32:24):
I kind of, I kind of, you know, seventy three
hundred sound real nice.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
That does sound nice.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I mean ways away from just seven thousand, and I'm
just like slowly trying to reel her in.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
But I think the better I get, the more I realize.
I'm like, she put that record so far out there.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yes, when you think about it, that like nobody's been
within two hundred points of it.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I would argue maybe it's like one of the hardest,
maybe if not the hardest record in all off track
and fields.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I think the World Athletic rankings would agree with me.
So it's very very motivating.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But I'm like, Okay, it's going to take like perfect conditions,
perfect training, literally everything I could possibly do correct over
the next few years.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
To chase you might have to say it personal best
and everything, because like I said, she won the gold
medal in the loan jump, so that guess she could
run twenty two seconds for two hundred medals.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
She could run in the twelves.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
For the hurdles, so she would, So you, I mean
it might take a personal in area.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Eventing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Emma in order for you to clips that record, because
she was on that date and that day, like you said,
perfect conditions, she had trained, Bobby had beat her at
the right time because she had just gotten married to
Bobby a couple of years earlier. Because she was just
Jackie joining eighty four in LA and then when she
comes to SOULD in eighty eight, she was favorite to
win in eighty four and then the last event she
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got nipped. But it's gonna take perfect condition, it's gonna
take you at your absolute apex, and you would have
to get every mark.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Something I was super focused on even this year though,
is like using my perfect score, which people say, like,
obviously you're probably not actually going to do seven prs,
but people keep a record of like what are your
prs out up to and so finally, this is the
first year my prs actually do. I think it's like
seventy three oh three, and so I'm like, wow, I
need to bump that up to like seventy four to
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give yourself some wiggle room on this.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Margin for error.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Like you said, the likelihood in seven events over two days.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We're asking an awful lot of that, body, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
One of the questions I want to I want to ask, obviously,
when it comes to some of the goals that you've
already you already want and those that you haven't achieved yet,
how do you keep from keeping that the main thing, obviously,
because when you have something that you focus on, you
focus on that one goal, and you want to break
a record so bad. Most of the time you end
up pressing, and we end up pressing. Obviously you're not
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really running as free as you should. How do you
how do you balance both of wanting to achieve breaking
the record without pressing and just running your race?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Yeah? Yeah, it's definitely a hard balance.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I think when I've chased marks like that, like even
when I was first chasing down like seven thousand points,
the first time I was close. I missed it like
by twelve points, and I was like pressing for it
so hard and so fortunately right now, honestly, with her
record being what it is, I'm it's not like I'm
expecting to get it tomorrow. I know this is gonna
be It's gonna take a full body of work, and
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it's something you know, maybe we'll aim for for at
the LA twenty twenty Olympics.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
Would be like the perfect is a place to ever
do it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
But I know it's not like when I step on
the track tomorrow, I'm putting the pressure on myself to
get it, and having the injuries that I've had in
my career, I think I've learned not to let people
rush me, like I would love to do a world
record for you all.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
As much as you guys would love to see it,
I would love to do it, but they don't just
happen like that.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
And I'm only twenty four, which in track years is
not very old. So I'm just trying to be patient
with myself and make sure that I'm looking long term
at my full development yet.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Because it's a lot of strain on your body, and
Jackie dealt with a lot of hamstring issues if you notice,
I remember watching her, she would always have that hamstring
taped up because you gotta jump, you gotta run, you
gotta throw. So it's just so much and you're pushing
yourself the maximum capacity. And even though you're not necessarily
trying to win the race, although you would like to win,
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you're going against the standard, which they that you already
have said, and so that's asking an awful lot. I
say that the transition to this, what is your strongest event?
What's your weakest event? What are you trying to?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Fact, if I can just get my weakest, you know
three quarters of what my strongest is, I think that
gives me an excellent opportunity as well.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think I would say my strongest event,
I feel like I have to say the eight hundred
since I broke like the heptaphlon best in it, So
probably the eight hundred and Okay, I would say my
weakest event is definitely the long jump.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Everybody, everybody, it's not a secret.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Everyone knows that. I feel, like most people the breath
when I get to a long jump. I have injured
myself on a long jump board before, so I definitely
have a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Of like it's a block, So you got something in
your head.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Exactly, and it's something that on paper I should be
really good at because I'm relatively fast in.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Track and then yeah, on.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
My best events as well, so you would think, but
it's it's something.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
So that's definitely the.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Big one where I have a lot of room to
grow because even to my own pr, I jumped like
sixty centimeters less, which is a lot at Worlds than
my own personal best. And I think I even have
room to grow on top of that. So that's where
I see most of those points coming from.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Where you have tath let.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Where you have tath let in high school, I mean,
what made you decide to focus because uh, you know,
nor we didn't have that, so you know, you ran
you can only run three solo events and you could
run the two relays, so you can only compete in
five events. So I guess they had I guess they
had tath leads and the cam at the leavest coming
along when you were in high school.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, so I actually I did have tacklon in club
track and then in high school track that we had
a role.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
It was like four events you could enter of anything.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
So I usually run like one or two relays, sometimes
the long hurdles, high jump I was good. I long
jumped then so long jump then so really just whatever
the team needed. But when I was first starting track,
I really loved the eight hundred and fifteen hundred and
high jump and they like don't.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Go together at all, and nope.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I actually remember I told my dad like, I want
to be the first person to go to the Olympics
in the fifteen hundred in the high jump, and he like,
of course, laughed in my face. It was like, this
doesn't really work like that, like love that you're dreaming big,
but like, let's focus. And so since he had done
the decathlon, he was like, why don't you try this
and put me in one.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
And as soon as I did, when I knew that
that was definitely what I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Hey, you know what, as a former track I think
myself and I'm thinking about the tedious process and what
it takes to even get at the level you're at,
being elite where track it.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Takes up most of your life. What do you like
to do outside of track?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
You know, being that track is everything, you're always asked
about everything you talk about where's your other sense of
peace where you can just exhale and be like, Okay,
this is what I love, this is what I'm passionate about,
this is what I'm enthusiastic about.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
I'm when I able to get away.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
From Yeah, Honestly, I don't get much time away training
for all seven events. It's like I basically signed up
for seven times the work and the same working for
the same metal, same goal. But when I do get
away from track, the main thing for me, honestly is
my family and my friends. I have three sisters, so
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anytime or weekends that I can steal with them is
really how I feel like I.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Turned my brain off and then getting up.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I'm in my off season right now, so I'm
up visiting my boyfriend. That's definitely a way I can
turn my brain off spend time with my dog. You
don't have many hobbies besides track, honestly, which is something
I'm gonna work on. I'm trying to become a better chef.
Maybe this offseason thinks I don't usually make.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
We're starting not in the best place.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
But I was like, one week every week, I'm gonna
make something I've never made. Before and then kind of
just pick up new hobbies like.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That, who you who are you going to test it
out on this boyfriend if you wanted, you want to?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You want to tell the name?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yes you can know Darius, Darius Slayton is my boyfriend and.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
So wait my brother New York Giant Darius.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yes, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, which I'm sure is he is?
He is?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
He the the guinea pig that this new thing that
you try every week, like, hey, honey, look what I
made for you.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I was like, we're one weekend and I went safe
and it's decent. But he's he will be brutally honest
with me, which I appreciate.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He will always tell it to me straight.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
So I know, I'm gonna come with my AA and
look up maybe the simplest recipes and like the easiest
not to mess up. So what do you?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
What do you like cooking? You like cooking breakfast food?
You like cooking? I mean, are you a brunch type
of a lady or you you I mean you shrimp
scampy or you like you know, chicken palm you? I
mean what what?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
What's annahol is? So if somebody said you know what, Anna,
I want you to make me your favorite dish tonight.
What you what you cooking?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
My favorite dish is definitely breakfast. I think I do
a good breakfast.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's my favorite meal.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Yeah, my family to the day could eat eat for.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Dinner sometimes yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Make like basically like an egg scramble bowl with like
mashed up hash browns, sausage, chicken, sausage, peppers, onions, spinach.
You could do like all in the bowl I eat
have for breakfast like every day before training.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So I forgot you're doing seven events. Yes, you could
eat that. That that ain't nothing. You probably could eat
two of those.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
No, eating enough is a struggle, honest. That's like one
of my biggest off track battles.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
So right, so let me ask you. Let me ask
you this. What's what's the training session?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Are you doing all seven events in one day? Are
you picking day and say I'm gonna work on this
one two events today and then Tuesday I work on
another two events and then X, Y and Z like
that or how you doing it?
Speaker 8 (42:21):
I usually did three events in a day and the lyft.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
So the running joke at our group is that they
call me nine to five because they're like, you're at
the track.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
From nine to five every day.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
But I usually do, Like an example, Monday would be
hurdles and then I would shot foot and then take
a little break maybe like thirty forty minutes for lunch,
come back and hide jump and then I probably get
to the weight room around like four, get them to
wait till like five thirty.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
And so that I started at ten.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So pretty much going from like ten to five thirty,
it just takes a lot a lot of time to
learn all that technique.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You've gotten, You've gotten better at the shot. I saw
you in the shot. I was like, okay, okay, I
see I'll see.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
The thank you.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
I was proud of that one. That used to be
a weakness for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I maybe would have named that before I named long
jump like a few years ago. So I was super
proud of that. And the Europeans are like such good throwers.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I was like, and you should be too, because of
your body type, how long you are, Yes, yeah, and
you should be able.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You should be able to launch the shot because I'm
looking at your body type and you look at them.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
They thought, I'm like, hold on, how you live? Yeah?
You shouldn't be able to throw it. I mean it
looked like they throwt it like it's a babe.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
My first like you twenty Worlds, I was like, there's
no way this, Like I'm the same size as this girl,
Like I used to.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
Tell myself like why aren't you small?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Like and I was like, I'm the same size as
girl in her shop.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
It's going two meters farther than mine. So I was like,
we have to catch up.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
The Europeans have typically just start technical events before us,
so they have a little bit of a jump start.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But yes, I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Happy I was able to catch up and pass most
of the girls that I needed to.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So you because you know mostly like you said, like
the throws and the jumps, the speed events the Americans,
you know, the two hundred, the hurdles, you.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Know things that you know, the things that require speed.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But man, when you look at stuff that that's a
lot of technique, I'm like, I'm be looking.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
I'll be looking at them like how you do that?
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
It is crazy because the stereotype is that like we're more,
we're faster, we're more powerful, and then they're just efficient
with how they work and their form and all of that,
and actually, which I feel like I can it's not her,
but her one of the coaches of my rivals.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
Like when I first came on the scene, they were like, oh.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
There's an American heptathlete, Like we haven't had a lot
in a while. And he was like, oh, well, she's
just fast, like of course typical of the Americans, but
like she has no technique.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
Remember that, Like two years ago, I.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Was like, I'm gonna work on my shot put in
my javelin, so definitely I've had to chip on my.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Shoulder there, right, So what how do you so for
a training session?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
How do you So you eat the bowl?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So you got scrambled egg, you got hash, you got sausage,
you got peppers. Okay, Now you go to the track.
So you probably probably I mean at the weight you're
at the work, you're expending the calories that you're expending, you.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Probably can eat about three thousand calories a day.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I mean I don't count calories, but I would bet
that that's close to what I'm eating.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Absolutely. Did you say, okay, I get a break you
eat breakfast? How soon after you eat breakfast? Do your
head to the track. You give yourself an hour sport
to digest.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
No, I sure, I wake up as late as I can,
but I live digest in the warm up. I'll be fine.
But I have a protein shake usually after my first event.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And then when I break, I break for lunch, and
so I'll eat like something with meat.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
I don't I count protein.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
So okay, trying to get like one hundred, one hundred
and twenty grams a day, which for someone my size
is a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's absolutely that's it's that's damn near. That's damn a
cal a.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Pound, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
I weigh a lot more than one hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
But no, but I'm saying this almost but I'm saying,
you know, but if you think about it, are one
hundred grams of protein one hundred and twenty gunds of protein.
That's a lot of cat And then when you throw
in I mean maybe rice or you know, some type
of leafy vegetable, kale, you know things like that. I
mean you you you getting a large. So now, okay,
(46:30):
you go back to the track, you wind down. What's dinner?
Speaker 8 (46:35):
It really depends. I feel like I usually I like
steak a lot. I eat a lot of steak, so
like a Chipotle bowl.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Okay, if I'm being lazy or I cook, sometimes I'll
make like crab cakes and like a pasta dish, something
hardy like that.
Speaker 8 (46:53):
And then I usually are.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
You taking that cat of can to cook?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Anna?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
As you say?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, in the day, but I want to cook more,
so that's my I'm trying to better at it. And
then before bed, I usually make myself like a Greeky
over bowl just to like get my last protein calories
in which yeah, typically has been a struggle for me.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
But we got a dial them this year, so now
I have my regimen.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
So do you you have do you have a nutritionist?
Is everything always on the healthy side? Do you do
you have any cheap meals like McDonald's like I love
to consume or is everything always.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
It had to be predicated towards what you do.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
I honestly feel like my mom did a really good
job when we were growing up.
Speaker 8 (47:41):
I like healthy food because that's what I grew up on.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
But my coaches and my nutritionists all the time are
like eat something dirty, like go have the pizza, have
the burger or whatever. So they're always telling reminded me
of that, So dinner sometimes will be something like that.
But really the thing is, I have a sweet tooth,
so I try to keep my main nailes clean.
Speaker 8 (48:03):
So then I'm like, okay, cookies, cake.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
By the time I'm eating all of that food, I'm
not that hungry for a giant sweet treat, but I will.
I won't tell myself no if I want, like if
I'm before bed, I want ice cream or I want
a little cookie or something like.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
I pretty much never know.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
But that's the thing that people get confused, Anna, is
that you don't realize how hard it is to consume
a healthy diet.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
When you eat.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Chicken, you eat chicken fish, or you eat lean cuts
of protein, and you eat leafy vegetables and you eat
brown rice or white rice or whatever. To try to
get to the allotment that you are it takes a lot.
I mean, you just get sometimes. I mean when I
was trying to consume four thousand calories a day but
it was healthy, bro, I just I just got you.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I'm just like, nah, bro, I'm good.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
No exactly, And that's honestly. We're off season.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
I was like, I lose muscles so fast, just because
I'm like, I don't have to force myself eat anymore.
Speaker 8 (49:00):
I won't I start.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
I restart our full training like ten pounds later, and
my coaches are like, all.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, and thank you for joining us. Congratulations on the
the World Championship gold medal. We got the ultimates. You
are obviously you're gonna competing that next year.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Correct, Yes, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Try for they don't have the multi which is a
little bit rude, but I'm gonna compete in probably the
high jump or the foreigner hurdles.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
I'll run on the circuit to qualify.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Okay, okay, look at that's that's what Jackie.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Did, So I'm gonna to qualify and make it there.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
That would be that would be unbelievable because they're not
very They're not very many women or athletes in that
point the CA athletes that can go into an open
event and be competitive, which I do believe you could
be in the four hundred hurdles. I do believe you
can be that because I've seen you run. Now you
have the endurance because you're greade to eight hundred, so
you have the strength to run the qua. Is you
(50:00):
know that lack of castle build up about the three
hundred market?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yes, yes, no, those girls are so good at it,
and so I'm excited to give it, like, hopefully a
better effort than I have in the past, because usually
I just run him on a win, but I really
want to focus on it a little bit more. Next.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
What else, Well, congratulations, I know things are not going
well for the Giants, but tell him keep his head up,
stay healthy. And yes, when you come back and when
you win the Ultimate, when you come back and you
do something special, come back and join us and tell
us about it. Please, well do, Thank you very much,
thank you, thank you for joining us. Annah Hall, world
champion HEPTA athlete. Thank you Annah. Oh Joe, we got
(50:36):
breaking news another major trade between the Jags and the Browns.
Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom and Jets twenty twenty six
sixth round picks from the brown Browns get Tyson Campbell
the Eagles twenty twenty sixth seventh round picks from the
jag The trade partners from the night of the twenty
twenty five draft now pull off another mid season trade.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Hey, listen, that's that's a good tribe. That's a good trade.
Now I don't understand why they, Yeah, the jag going
for it. Oh yeah, listen, especially for the Jags, I don't.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
And this is the thing I would get ready to say,
Greg Newsom is is a phenomenal uncle.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
Greg Newsom ain't no slouts. You know, we we understand
what Denzel Ward is on the other side. But when
they try to go to Greg Newsom's side by a
young boy can play some ball.
Speaker 7 (51:22):
So this is a win for the Jags And with
great understanding of.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Why they did it is because, oh, we're finna push
all our chips to the front. Were pushing all our
chips to the front because we really believe we have
a chance right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing. Yep,
that's that's respectable. And if you're a Jaguars fan, I
commend ownership. I commend your GM, and I commend you
God damn head coach. They're done, pushed all they chips
(51:48):
on the table.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
We going in. He unk the chap. Funny as hell,
unk what happened? They've just been going in on you.
They going in on me, Tell about it.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
I looked like Debo I look like a Mexican with
this damn flat or and.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
What they going on me for? What I do?
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (52:06):
What I do? O?
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yo?
Speaker 7 (52:08):
They killing me?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
What they say I do? Hold on, Chad, what I do?
I was just asking. I was just asking a question. Damn.
I can't ask no questions.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
It ain't funny boy.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Look, I know you guys think, but here's the real
when it comes to track and field, I don't have
a research team. I'm old enough to remember, y'all. I'm
fifty seven. So I go all the way back. I
remember the eighty four Olympics. I remember Soul, I remember Barcelona,
I remember Atlanta, I remember Athens. What y'all want me
(52:45):
to I remember Sydney was in two thousands after it
was the four, Beijing was eight, London was twelve, Rio
was sixteen twenty one. I remember what y'all want me
to do. I remember the World Championship when they came out.
I'm sorry that y'all can remember your way home, not
even our fault. I've told you if you know Shannon Sharp,
(53:06):
if you watch me at any point in time, I
told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes,
I love football and I know the history of football.
I know the history of basketball, but I love track
and field. It's I was playing around the track and field.
I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football,
I go to the gym, but when track and field long,
(53:27):
I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I
watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch
with the sound And for them to take their time
out to come on Nightcap. What other platform other than
my boy Justin Gatling and his partner that give track
and field athletes the platform like we do talking?
Speaker 7 (53:46):
Well, yeah, you're right, you're right by that.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I'm sorry that you know. I asked questions that I
think the chat would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
What do you eat? What are your training sessions? Like X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yes, so I'm I'm I'm confused at what y'all think
I was supposed to do, like like stutter or go
through it. Yes, there are no notes on here with
Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she
was a Florida lum. I know she from Colorado. I mean, yeah, y'all, don't.
Speaker 6 (54:16):
Worry about it because they're still killing me. And they
told me I looked like Jody from Baby.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Boy Man people weird.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
I mean like like I'm not supposed to ask any
questions like I was supposed to be like, uh.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
What do you what are you like? No, I know
that I know the history.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
I can't wait for us to have Ryan Crowzer on
so I can talk to him about the shot the greatest,
the greatest shot put her ever. Anna was talking about
the Jackie's record that she set in Soul seventy to
ninety one. Seems unbreakable, that woman's shot put in the USS. Sorry,
ain't nobody breaking that one?
Speaker 7 (54:53):
No, no, no, no, you know it's funny.
Speaker 6 (55:00):
Is the same way you are about track and field,
one of the one sporting, one of the ones.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
You like that about soccer?
Speaker 7 (55:06):
Oh my god, well soccer, come on my phone on
do not to serve?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
You know.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
On Saturday and Sunday, I'm mad. I fly to London
in the morning, my flight at five o'clock.
Speaker 6 (55:18):
I'm mad that I'm going to London and everybody don't
got them International break. Everybody on international break, so out
of the perfect time for me to catch a goddamn
I can sneak you go catch a.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
Game, right, everybody o Jo.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Does this mean we'll see Travis full time on offense?
Greg Newsom was the number twenty six pick in the
twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Tyson Campbell was picked thirty
three in that same draft, just seven picks apart.
Speaker 6 (55:44):
You know what, I'm curious what they're gonna do because
they have a phenomenal nigger in Jordan Lewis Right, I'm
not sure who's on the other side, but you know,
Greg news is coming in on one side, and.
Speaker 7 (55:53):
He's gonna he's gonna be that guy, that guy that
can do it.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
I still think they know Travis Hunter wants to continue
to contry be on defense.
Speaker 7 (56:01):
I think he'll continue to have those packages.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
They're gonna find ways to fix to fit him in
there at some point. But what we saw offensively, he's
too dynamic on They have to find ways to get
in the ball. On offense, he's too dynamic. You put
the ball in the area anywhere in the vicinity, he's
going to make that play, especially though jump balls that are.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Where he can showcase his athleticism.
Speaker 7 (56:24):
Yeah, they become eighty twenty with somebody like that. Yeah,
So I mean, listen, he's too dynamic.
Speaker 6 (56:30):
You know, and showing flashes of brilliance in which we
saw at Colorado on both sides of the ball. So
I hope they allow him to continue to doing doing
this thing on both sides have given them a healthy
a healthy count on both sides of the ball. We're
going to be effective and efficient. But they don't overload him,
and he's able to He's able to play at his
(56:51):
best on both sides.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
And that's what it comes down to, because they they
they need a special player, yeah, on one side of
the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if
he's average on both sides of the ball. Oh, Joe,
he has to be dynamic on one of the other, right,
because that's why you traded up on Yo, That's why
you gave up what you gave up to get it.
Because if you gave up what you get it and
you just got an average player, that that doesn't make
(57:15):
sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him
be dynamic, and then you, like you said, bring him
in on the package. I mean, personally, Joe, I still
think he's better at defense. I think it's his instincts.
His ball skills are just second to none. I know
you like it because of the jump ball. But right
now it's just athletal system. Now once he learns the
route tree. I give prime example Tyreek. Remember when Tyreek
(57:36):
first came in, he was a gadget guy, and then
all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree. Tyreek
has played his way into a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
Travis Hunter has thatcountability. He just got to get better
running the round. Right now, they're only running on spots
and jump balls.
Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yeah, if I could get If I get Trav, I
know you're gonna see this. If I can get with
you in the off season.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, grateful that.
Speaker 6 (58:00):
I need you for two months. Two months were working
four days a week. All we all I need is
an hour, all your time for four weeks. I know
you already have your train. I'm not trying to step
on nobody toes. I'm talking about running routes. Yeah, I'm
talking about giving the illusion of doing something that you're
really not at full speed. Oh my goodness, brother, what
I could do with you, Oh my goodness, what I
(58:21):
could do and listen, Now you know that's my specialty.
Now I do man, hey trap, come on, hall, let
you boy. In the off season, I don't need much time.
An hour day, that's it, rock running.
Speaker 7 (58:37):
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(03:22):
not for the Cleveland Browns for your Cincinnati Bengals. He
will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach Zach
Taylor announced sixth Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra division
trade Tuesday. They sent a twenty twenty six fifth round
draft pick to the Browns in exchange for Flacco and
a twenty twenty six sixth round draft pick. This is
(03:44):
how rare sin I think in this century. Only twice
as it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew Bledsoe
to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan McNabb
to the Washington They were not the commanders at the time,
you know what they were. But he got traded intra division.
So only three times as a quarterback that I can
(04:04):
think of a trade like this going down.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Let's run down. Let's run down what happened.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Joe Flacco was traded O Jo's guy wasn't being able
to Jake Browning was not being able to hold up
to it because what was supposed to happen. Your backup
is supposed to be able to keep you afloat until
your starter comes back. That's what a backup is supposed
to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati being was like, look,
(04:29):
we've got a lot of money invested and Chase and Higgins,
and we gave fourteen more million dollars to a Trey Hendrickson,
so we need to try to maximize this. We can't
just give up on the season because our quarterback is
not fulfilling his obligation, which is the keep of the
float to if and win. Joe, excuse me, Joe Burrow
came back. Doesn't look like that was happening, And so
(04:51):
they made the move. So Cleveland said Joe Flacco and
a twenty twenty sixth sixth round draft pick and returns
the being gonna send them a twenty twenty six fifth
round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We're getting it right for you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
How Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the
starter to now be in the backup in Cincinnati?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Are you know?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm trying to respond the right way. Obviously I'm pissed,
and if I wasn't pissed, then I shouldn't be in
this locker room. And it's important to me, and you know,
I'm aware of the role I played and the offensive
struggles over the last few weeks. And you know, but
I'm also on my shouldering the entire situation. And you know,
I went through yesterday, watch my throws, tried to come
(05:37):
up with some stuff that I want to work on,
and she's doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
O Jo, the thing of quarterbacks supposed to do. Say
look it's on me. I did not play. Don't say
I'm not going to shoulder all of the blame. We
know you, all the blame is not on you, But
at that moment, when you're in front of the camera
as the leader of that offense, you say, like, look
that's on me. I didn't play well enough to get
the job done. So I understand why the Bengals made
that decision. If and when my time comes back up,
(06:06):
I'll be more prepared. And I promise you Bengals fans,
this organization, my teammates, I won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Take off with Joe Aby Listen.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Obviously, most of the time in that situation, as a quarterback,
being the face being that Joe Burrow is absent, you
have to take on this. You have to take all
that on your shoulders because you are at the quarterback.
Because much is expected of you once you were at
that position, and you are the one who handles the
ball the most outside.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Of everyone else.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
With that being said, you look at our team and
where we are right now. We're two and three. We
still have time to be able to salvage the season.
I think then continue to stick with Jake Brown based
on the last two performance that we've seen, it would
have been malpracticed by the coach. I think Zach Taylor
might be on the hot seat. Yeah, listen, it's not funny.
(06:54):
This is a serious matter. This is not a left
matter for us. The fans are in pay. I'm impatient.
I think upstairs they're also in patient because they've invested
money in that office. In line, they're investing money in
Joe Burrow, They're investing money in Tea and Jamar Chase
and another especially offensively in general, and they want to
see a return on that investment.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Correct, Joe Burrow's down.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Joe Burrows down, next man up, the next man up
is not playing well at all.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
So we're two and three right now, what do you
want to do?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
We want to get someone else who is a veteran
presence that has won a Super Bowl. Maybe they can
come in and steer the ship. They keep it from sinking,
similar to like the Titanic. We don't want to hit
the iceberg.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
So can Joe.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Flacco come in and steer the ship and dodge a
few icebergs? Now, we might, we might sing a little bit,
but we don't want to just go all the way
goddamn under I'm We're going to see what can happen.
It all starts with number one. We have a gun
slinger at the quarterback position that has a hell of
a army, but he's not mobile. Jake Browning was mobile,
(08:00):
and he was running for his life.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes, Jo.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
My offensive line, if you guys do see this, I
beg of you. I implore you to raise your level of
play for us offensively to have any success moving forward,
starting right now this week against that Packers defense.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh Garrett, oh wott, Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
My Bengals officive line. We need to set the tone.
We need we need to set the tone.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
All five of you. Orlando Brown, come on, baby, you
got to come to the party. Brother Mems, you got
to come to the party. Right guard, left guard, Tar Carris,
we got to come to the party. As we go,
as the officer line goes, our team goes. The game
of football is one up front, it's one in the trenches.
(08:54):
And for us to continue to continue to compete, not
only the f C North, but the NFL in general
for the rest of the season, we have to win
up front.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
That's what it starts with. If we went up front,
everything else becomes easy. Offensively.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I can tell looking at the chat that there are
not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking
to obticcagate blame. If you go look at just look
at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen Hurts. Watch
out when they lose a game, how he talks with
Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose. Look how
they talk. You don't talk about I don't shoulder all
(09:32):
the blame. You said this on me. I need to
play better, and I will. I understand why the organization
did what they did because I wasn't getting the job done.
If and when I get another opportunity, Oh Joe, the
only reason he's on the roster is that when Joe
Burg got hurt last time, he did a well enough
job and say, you know what, we got a backup.
(09:53):
If Joe goes down for three to four weeks. We
got a guy that can hold it in the road
for us. We have a self driving car. I've been
seeing a lot of self driving cars late, and I'm like,
hold on, I saw the car driving around on Joe.
I was looking at him, and so I said, hold
wait a minute. Ain't nobody driving right right?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I put the thing and stop if somebody got out,
I said.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I heard people talk about it, oh Joe, but that's
my first time seeing what right right? So that's what
That's what Jake Browning was. He was a self driving car,
like man Joe out.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Jake got this.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We saw him against Jacksonville. You remember that Thursday night game,
Oh Joe against Jacksonville. Yeah, he played well. That's what
gave you the confidence to say what you were saying,
because you had seen him in moments like this, Yes,
rise to the occasion, play extremely well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Happened, because here's the thing, on Joe, expectations are the
number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Because see, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I tell guys all the time, I said, you
know what, the easiest thing I ever did with me
the pro Bowl because nobody was expecting it. Now, guess
what happens when they build a game plan around you
and the defense build a game plan to stop you gait.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Hold on, stay right there because I know you for
the cook. Hold on now, hold on because let me
tell you something. I got my penning pad. Now I
know you fin the cook. Go ahead now, So that's
what happens, O Joe. See you see what happened. Expectations.
Jake Brownie had immense expectations. Why, O Joe, because the
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Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Even though Joe burrows down.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They believe, Man, we have enough offensively to right this
ship until Joe gets back. We got chased. We got
the best receiving in football. We believe we got another
top fifteen receiving football. We got a guy that can
run the ball. There ain't no reason for us to
be scoring three points, ten points, be down thirty four
to three going into the fourth quarter with the offensive
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weapons that we got.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So now the expectations and you feel that living up,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It was easy.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Your kids. See, your kids got expectations you never had.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Your dad, your dad on't your Sinco. Yeah, the pro bowler,
the one that's on night Cap. Yeah, Now they got expectations.
You didn't have to deal with your mom. Your people
were like they might say, oh you Hurricane Paul Paul
Paul Paul letter Son mm hmm. But now you put
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so much expectations on your kids because see, only people
in the neighborhood knew your You knew your mom, knew
your grandma. You're a worldwide commodity. They see that last name,
they say, hold on, what's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh Joe, that's my dad. That's your dad.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Now what you play? When you playing, what you're doing,
you do so what you do in sports.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But you want to be when you grow up.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Now you see Jake Brown had those expectations with that offense.
He was supposed He wasn't supposed to be Joe Burrow.
He was just supposed to be that self driving car.
To keep it in the road.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh you just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Don't crash, that's all you gotta do something. I don't
even need you to win this race. Just get the
car around the track and don't crash. Keep it the
first gear.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
See I told you it was Finna Cook.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Because see I already know what's gonna happen when you
get the fourth. You need to burn the clutch out
of you're gonna script the gear. What you're gonna do with, Joe?
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Hold on now, hold on, I don't need you to
win the race. I just need you to get the
car around the track. But that's a bar.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Get it around the track.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
That's a bar. You don't even understand.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You didn't even understand I did.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Let me write this down. Hold on that were you cooking?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
God damn? But you need to be a pastor.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hey, I don't need Jake. I don't need Jake. You
think we need you to be? Fifteen and two? Right?
Get us the ten? Can you? Can you get us
the level? Can you keep us?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can you get us the ten and seven? Get us
the ten and seven? Ten and seven? Might be might
be something, might be something we can look at.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, look that's what.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The Texas one and four, the Titans one and four. Okay,
they got two teams in that division are playing really well.
You got the AFC South, you got the Jags, and
you got the Coats.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
They cutting up, they cutting up, they cutting up. It's
funny two of the teams are always three and four.
Now one and two battling with a chance to win
that division in the FC South, well obviously, well let
me take that back, because when Peyton Manny was there,
they dominated THEFC for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Absolutely just saying it.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
As of recent it hasn't been like that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, no, no, no no. Basically since Andrew Luck left
it hadn't been like that.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Heyst I'm excited. You think about what we are to
as a Bengal fan.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I'm sure we have some Bengal fans in the chat
and just fans of football in the chat in general.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
If you think about it us and what we are
right now, we at the bottom. We at the bottom.
There's nowhere else. There's no other place we can go.
But from this point, based on what we saw last week,
that's only one place we can go. We got Flack
over there. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
What choice do you have? O yo?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
And then and then a lot of people. You got
some people obviously hear some Bagel fans. Oh why we
go get Joe Flack?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:22):
There were no viable options. It's about well, why didn't
we get anybody who would run? Why we ain't get
anybody mobile who's out there.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
That is Amazon quarterback exactly.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
This ain't this, ain't madn This is real life. This
is real life.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What we need is not like quarterbacks are like like
goddamn apple tree, you just go pick when you won't
to replace the next one. That is one of the
reasons why it's so difficult to not only find a quarterback,
but find a transcending generational talent like a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You can't replace it. No, you can't replace Lamar Jackson
if he's injured, as you can see with the Ravens struggling.
You can't replace a goddamn Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes
or Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You can.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But can we get Can we get to Carson Wentz?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the
Minnesota Vikings until JJ McCarthy comes back, because he's making
it hard on Kevin O'Connell to put JJ McCarthy ass
back in the ball game considering how well he's actually playing.
Since JJ McCarthy has been out more touchdown, fewer interceptions,
that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Look in this situation, you're not gonna make it difficult
for them not to put Joe Burrow ass back in there.
He's making far too much money and he's a far
superior quarterback to what you are. But with that being said, bro,
you gotta this is how bad is this is how
bad Jake Browning is. His qb are is actually higher
than Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But when you desperate on your aid, somebody say, man, look,
if one aspirin, if if two aspirin ll clean, uh
will clear your head? You'll you won't have a headache,
and say an hour. Well, and and that's what Jared
Crowns jered Ryan's Dorris asked Michael Jordan. But it's a
true analogy. You know, one as take two aspirins. Uh,
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passion subside, subside in a couple of hours. What if
I take ten, it's probably gonna kill you? And he asked, Mike,
would you take ten? He said, well, how bad is
my headache?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Ooh?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams
do desperate things. This was a desperate move because of
your actuality. The quarterback that you had starting is actually
playing better than the quarterback you're replacing him with. But
let when you see it when you get desperate on
your When you get desperate, you make desperate decisions. You
don't think clearly, you don't see clearly. All I know
is that my guy isn't playing. Well, well, let's grab
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that guy. You do realize that guy got benched. Also, Yes,
I can see if you got to hey, I want
to trade for your starter. No, you traded for a
guy that got bitch.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Can I say something?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yes, we traded for a guy that got benched, obviously,
but the guy that got benched that's coming to the
Bengals has a much better supporting cast around him right now,
for now.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Again, the one.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Issue I did say, because the spike coming, the spike
coming here to a much better supporting cast.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
If that front four or that front five what it is, five,
don't do what they need to do and be a
wall for two seconds. Give me a wall for two seconds.
That's all I need. Give me two. If you can
give me two, we can do something with one.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
In five, well, you better you better keep a flac
on the shotgun because they're gonna take him longer.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The three that's getting this drop back.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Yes, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
We can put it back there in the shotgun already process,
so we can already process. He can see what's in
front of them right away, and it doesn't take him
that much long to get that ball out.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
And you know one thing about flack O boy, he
got an arm.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Oney, Oh he could throw it. Now he can make
He can still make all the throws. Now he's gonna
throw Chasing Higgins about three. Now he gonna throw the
other the team about two. Now it's just a matter
whether they're gonna catch him or not. Because he gonna
give everybody. He's an equal opportunity employer. He believed, he
believes in d I diversity, equity inclusion, so he gonna diversify, touchdown,
the interception he gonna make kis the quality, and he
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gonna include the defense. And what the hell he doing?
So I'm just letting y'all know of Bengo fans. You
are listen. You remember him when he was at there
the Ravens, You remember him when he was at Cleveland.
You already know, and you just got a glimpse of
it earlier this year, so you know who and what
he is.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Think you're gonna get twenty twelve, playoff Flaco. That is,
he would never ever able to replicate. He could never
really put a regular season together like he could those
playoff runs.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh Joe, he had some of the great playoff runs.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
A crazy work in the playoffs. Crazy work.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
But again, you think about what he had offensively with
the Ravens, even back then, with that playoff runt. Yes,
run Hill, I could just I honestly, I can honestly
say throughout this entirety of his career, he ain't never
had nothing like he got worker.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No no, no, no no no no. He had a better
offensive line, but he didn't have You know, I'm trying
to think who was his running back back then. I
don't even remember who's running back was. I know a
Kwan Bowler was one of the receivers.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Twenty seven Ray Rice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Yes, I believe so okay, I believe so yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But I think the thing is, O Joe, he's gonna
need time to throw. Like you said, he doesn't have mobility.
He's not a guy that you can move. I mean,
are you gonna move the pocket with him? You can't
zone read with him, I mean you're limited basically a
O Joe, he's a drop back. He's a prototypical seventies
eighty drop back quarterback, That's what he is. He's kinda
like these quarterbacks that we have today. All the quarterbacks
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day are slightly mobile, some more than noble or others.
But oh, Joe, he is what he is.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
And you yeah, I mean listen, even Joe Burrow and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Joe Burrow ain't God damn Josh Allen, but his ability
to manipulate the pocket. Yeah, see pressure and being able
to escape it and make throws down the field is
second to none. He's really good at escaping the pocket
despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks
that just name are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well.
And the owners, it all comes down to the office
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of line.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, and as.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
They go, the better they play, the better we play offensively.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I think they're gonna try to look. You go in
the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman.
If somebody comes available, you know, o Jo. In free
agency you get somebody to come to your team, you
have to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot
where he's been the last three four, five years, six years,
seven years, whoever, he's gotten comfortable, he's established himself in
the community. If he has a wife, his wife is
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an interest in the community. If you've got kids, they
got friends and they been in school. So you're gonna
have to overpay to get one of those guys, or
an offensive tackle or a guard or a center to
come join your team. So you're gonna have to overpay
to get one of those guys. And then you know,
you go in the draft and you try to find
the better offensive lineman because you're gonna be drafting pretty
high up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
If this thing doesn't get turned around, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Unfortunately, that's that's you know, you might end up being
a top ten And I don't know, like I said,
I haven't seen any projections just yet, but there might
be a situation where you have to go in and
take a lineman in the top ten. Now we know, Look,
Anthony Munjos is the best offensive lineman that they've had. Willie,
I know, I know, big Willy late he from my
home state, went to Alburn.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But listen, you guys need the offensive line bad. O Joe.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, we do, we do. I'm just hoping those young bulls,
those young bulls that we do have, especially those that
have gotten paid. They've been paid a nice ransom. I'm
hoping they can show up and pay dividends, you know,
and play like the money that they received so far.
I'm excited for them, obviously getting Joe Burrow. Despite where
we are right now, we're still two and three. The
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season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do. But
the only way to allow Joe to cook, the only
way he can be that chef head chef, is he
needs a little time. If he gets a little time
on you give Joe anytime. Boy, he is surgical with
that ball. That's for any of you that in the
chat that no football, even though we can't move, he
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got an harmony. Yes, we got two of the best.
He got he got the best, maybe arguably depending on
who you asked, the best dude to throw too. So
I'm excited, I'm optimistic, and we can't go anywhere but
up from here because we're at the bottom of the
barrel right now.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Kevin Stefanski was noncommental on whether rookie should do a
Sanders or practice squad. Bailey Zappi would be the team's
backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to
the Bengals. Stefanski said he would let let the play
let the week play out, and make the decision later
would ask about QB two row. Stefanski also would not
say if the team would sign Zappy to the active
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roster ahead of Sunday's game, so that one of the
backups would serve as the inactive emergency quarterback.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh Joe, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's already been report ordered that Bailey Zappi was taking
the a lot of the practice squad snaps.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yeah, basically, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment. He's
Kevin Stefangus making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
He's making it basic Maury Povins.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
When Maury Povins does the goddamn DNA test and the
girl or the girl gets up screaming and they run
around with the camera. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's exactly what
he's making. He's making a mockery of the situation and
enjoying it. Yeah, he's enjoying it. Just enounce the goddamn quarterback?
Who quarterback number two? If Bailey Zappi has been taking
the practice grafts. Knowing that Door Joe Flacka'm gone. If
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Sadu was already number three and goddamned dinner with Gable
goes to number one and Joe Flack, I'm going, then
that makes goddamn Steward number two.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Why are we playing these goddamn mind games like what.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
My foe if he was Let's just say, for the
sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when Joe Flacco
was there, Joe Flacco was one, Bailey Zappi was two.
Excuse me, Dylan Gaber was two. Should Do was three?
But the report said Bailey Zappi was getting the practice squad.
They signed them off somebody else's team and put him
on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps
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that should Door should be getting. So with that being said,
I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graver gonna
be taking all those reps and somehow, come game come
this regular season, should Door Sanda's gonna pull vault in
front of him?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So if Bailey Zappi.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Is taking those reps practice squad reps, ojo, what's the likelihood?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Now I'm not saying it can't happen. But what's the likelihood.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Hey, I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I don't know. I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm not so sure Cleveland know what they do with
Maybe they're waiting on Deshan to come back.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It says he's been out there, he's been throwing and
I don't know, Ojo, but I just know. Look, they've
made a mockery of this. Uh, we've talked about Cleveland
more in the first six weeks of this year than
we have at any point in time. And it's out
all good, But I don't know what. I really don't
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know what to make of this. It's, uh, we're gonna
let it play out. What I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What you're gonna let play out?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I can see if this was a training camp battle, ohoe,
and let it play out. I'm trying to figure out
what can someone do in a week of practice? Oho,
that's gonna change your mind from where you stand right
now to me, like, oh, well he had a great
week of practice.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Who did you nothing at all?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Again? That's why I said they making a market situation.
That's all failt this little mini.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's not a it's uh, they're asking him, they're asking
your door, Uh, what what do you know? What do
you what do you mean as that's Dylan Gabriel, You
ask him what do you think about? I'm not playing
as Dylan Gabriel. What is his think about Joe Flacco
being traded? Why are you asking me? I'm the backup
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to the backup that just got started. See they're always
trying to put a microphone because they're always trying to
get him the slip up. They're always trying to catch
him off his guard.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
O't Joe.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
They're trying to They always try it. They don't ask.
They don't ask any other quarterback. They don't ask the
third string, or they don't ask the practice squad guy.
What do you think about somebody getting traded? But somehow
the microphone always seemed to find Shu door. They're hoping
he mess up. They hope he has a proverbial slip
You see, that's why he's not started. You see, he
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needed to keep his mind closed. You see, this is
why he need what he.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Is the news cycle. It's the last name in general.
They haven't had somebody this polarizing. That's not even in
that's not even in an important role as of yet.
They never had anybody like this before. They haven't and
they don't even know how to handle the situation in general.
Most of the time, in a situation like this, when
you have something as polarizing, a polarizing figure like that,
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you do everything you can to stay away from it.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
But no, they're engaging with it in purpose. They keep
the Cleveland Browns in the news cycle. No different than
the god damn Dallas Cowboys, No damn different.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Man if I should do? I say, look, man if,
and when I'm starting? When? When?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
When Coach Stefans can tell me I'm starting, then I'll
talk to you, guys, what other backup quarterback they talking to?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
You can't do that, though, but you understand the rules.
Though you know you understand the rules.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But I'm trying to figure out, Oh Joe, I'm trying
to think. They're not asking James Whinson no questions. They're
not asking Russ any questions. Now, all the questions are
the Jackson dark are the guardiat right?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right? So I'm my only thing is okay?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So why do you continuously ask a backup that's not playing?
Why are you continuously asking why are you continuously asking
them questions?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What do you hope? What do you what do you
hope to get from him?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I can tell you what they're hoping. I can sound
like I'm know I know what they're hoping.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Also, Hey, they hoping like when you go of the Army,
like when you go to the Marines, like when you
go to the Navy. They're trying to break you in
the beginning to see if you are the one. Are
you built for this mentally? That's all they waiting on you.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Snap. They waiting on the snap. I'm telling you. He
has to understand it. I can see.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
I can see the play I can see the play
all the way. I can see the play way before
it happened, all the way before a start. How can
you not see it?
Speaker 7 (29:26):
If you understand the game and the game that they're playing,
I can see it in clear as day. Your only
coming out and saying some of the things he said,
he got training camp.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Oh, I see what this is. Okay, Now I got
to play the game. I see what I see what
you're all trying to do. Right, You got to play
the game. Now you you in their structuring environment. You
got to play by their rules.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Listen, even even I was in that position at one point,
he ain't wet. I got my toe in the water.
I got my toe in the water, but my feet
ain't wet just as yet. But once I got in
the water fully. Oh but you've seen, you've seen.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Every bit of day County, Liberty City come up out
of me.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And uh hey, ladies and gentlemen, we got a very
special guest joining us. We got the world champion and
the helped Tathlon, which signifies the greatest woman helped tathlete
in the world the world. She won gold in Tokyo,
she won silver in Budapest, she won bronze and Eugene
Florida Gator Alum.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Here she is Anna hall Anna. How are you hello?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I'm Bella. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I saw a thing a year maybe a year maybe
it was leading up to the Olympics where a Jackie Joyner,
who happened to be the greatest heptathlete ever created back
to back gold medals in eighty eight ninety two, won
the silver in eighty four. She even won the gold
medal in the long jumping soul and then won bronze,
Bronze and Barcelona and Atlanta. When you when you sit
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down and talk to her, what did she tell you
that gave you the confidence that, you know what, I
can be an Olympic champion, I can be a world champion.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah. I think she's spoken like so much into me,
which I'm so thankful for. I actually talked to her
today very close. But really from the first time I
met her, she was always just like you, no, I
see it in you, like I believe in you and
I know you can do this. And she started telling
me that back in twenty twenty two when I was
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still on the team at the University of Florida. Actually
so for her to say that when I was so young,
and I feel like I didn't see it in myself
yet really made a difference. And then now along the
way she'll like like she was texting me in between
events and Tokyo and.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
She knows she holds the standards like I have for myself.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
So yes, even when some of them weren't what I wanted,
she was like, keep your head up, like you've got this,
just let it go. And it means so much because
I know she's been there, like, I know she does
exactly what I'm feeling in situations when we're down under
the stadium trying to regroup.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
So you she that world record. She said that in
soul uh seventy two ninety one. If I'm not mistaken,
she was the first woman to generates seven thousand points
in the hyptathalon. You reached that mark. I know she's
your mentor, I know she's your role model. But you're like, yeah,
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I kind of, I kind of, you know, seventy three
hundred sound real nice.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
That does sound nice.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I mean ways away from just seven thousand, and I'm
just like slowly trying to reel her in.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
But I think the better I get, the more I realize.
I'm like, she put that record so far out there.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yes, when you think about it, that like nobody's been
within two hundred points of it.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I would argue maybe it's like one of the hardest,
maybe if not the hardest record in all off track
and fields.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
I think the World Athletic rankings would agree with me.
So it's very very motivating.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But I'm like, Okay, it's going to take like perfect conditions,
perfect training, literally everything I could possibly do correct over
the next few years.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
To chase you might have to say it personal best
and everything, because like I said, she won the gold
medal in the loan jump, so that guess she could
run twenty two seconds for two hundred medals.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
She could run in the twelves.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
For the hurdles, so she would, So you, I mean
it might take a personal in area.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Eventing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Emma in order for you to clips that record, because
she was on that date and that day, like you said,
perfect conditions, she had trained, Bobby had beat her at
the right time because she had just gotten married to
Bobby a couple of years earlier. Because she was just
Jackie joining eighty four in LA and then when she
comes to SOULD in eighty eight, she was favorite to
win in eighty four and then the last event she
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got nipped. But it's gonna take perfect condition, it's gonna
take you at your absolute apex, and you would have
to get every mark.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Something I was super focused on even this year though,
is like using my perfect score, which people say, like,
obviously you're probably not actually going to do seven prs,
but people keep a record of like what are your
prs out up to and so finally, this is the
first year my prs actually do. I think it's like
seventy three oh three, and so I'm like, wow, I
need to bump that up to like seventy four to
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give yourself some wiggle room on this.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Margin for error.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Like you said, the likelihood in seven events over two days.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We're asking an awful lot of that, body, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
One of the questions I want to I want to ask, obviously,
when it comes to some of the goals that you've
already you already want and those that you haven't achieved yet,
how do you keep from keeping that the main thing, obviously,
because when you have something that you focus on, you
focus on that one goal, and you want to break
a record so bad. Most of the time you end
up pressing, and we end up pressing. Obviously you're not
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really running as free as you should. How do you
how do you balance both of wanting to achieve breaking
the record without pressing and just running your race?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Yeah? Yeah, it's definitely a hard balance.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I think when I've chased marks like that, like even
when I was first chasing down like seven thousand points,
the first time I was close. I missed it like
by twelve points, and I was like pressing for it
so hard and so fortunately right now, honestly, with her
record being what it is, I'm it's not like I'm
expecting to get it tomorrow. I know this is gonna
be It's gonna take a full body of work, and
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it's something you know, maybe we'll aim for for at
the LA twenty twenty Olympics.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
Would be like the perfect is a place to ever
do it.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
But I know it's not like when I step on
the track tomorrow, I'm putting the pressure on myself to
get it, and having the injuries that I've had in
my career, I think I've learned not to let people
rush me, like I would love to do a world
record for you all.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
As much as you guys would love to see it,
I would love to do it, but they don't just
happen like that.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
And I'm only twenty four, which in track years is
not very old. So I'm just trying to be patient
with myself and make sure that I'm looking long term
at my full development yet.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Because it's a lot of strain on your body, and
Jackie dealt with a lot of hamstring issues if you notice,
I remember watching her, she would always have that hamstring
taped up because you gotta jump, you gotta run, you
gotta throw. So it's just so much and you're pushing
yourself the maximum capacity. And even though you're not necessarily
trying to win the race, although you would like to win,
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you're going against the standard, which they that you already
have said, and so that's asking an awful lot. I
say that the transition to this, what is your strongest event?
What's your weakest event? What are you trying to?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Like?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Fact, if I can just get my weakest, you know
three quarters of what my strongest is, I think that
gives me an excellent opportunity as well.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think I would say my strongest event,
I feel like I have to say the eight hundred
since I broke like the heptaphlon best in it, So
probably the eight hundred and Okay, I would say my
weakest event is definitely the long jump.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Everybody, everybody, it's not a secret.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Everyone knows that. I feel, like most people the breath
when I get to a long jump. I have injured
myself on a long jump board before, so I definitely
have a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Of like it's a block, So you got something in
your head.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Exactly, and it's something that on paper I should be
really good at because I'm relatively fast in.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Track and then yeah, on.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
My best events as well, so you would think, but
it's it's something.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
So that's definitely the.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Big one where I have a lot of room to
grow because even to my own pr, I jumped like
sixty centimeters less, which is a lot at Worlds than
my own personal best. And I think I even have
room to grow on top of that. So that's where
I see most of those points coming from.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Where you have tath let.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Where you have tath let in high school, I mean,
what made you decide to focus because uh, you know,
nor we didn't have that, so you know, you ran
you can only run three solo events and you could
run the two relays, so you can only compete in
five events. So I guess they had I guess they
had tath leads and the cam at the leavest coming
along when you were in high school.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, so I actually I did have tacklon in club
track and then in high school track that we had
a role.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
It was like four events you could enter of anything.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
So I usually run like one or two relays, sometimes
the long hurdles, high jump I was good. I long
jumped then so long jump then so really just whatever
the team needed. But when I was first starting track,
I really loved the eight hundred and fifteen hundred and
high jump and they like don't.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Go together at all, and nope.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I actually remember I told my dad like, I want
to be the first person to go to the Olympics
in the fifteen hundred in the high jump, and he like,
of course, laughed in my face. It was like, this
doesn't really work like that, like love that you're dreaming big,
but like, let's focus. And so since he had done
the decathlon, he was like, why don't you try this
and put me in one.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
And as soon as I did, when I knew that
that was definitely what I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Hey, you know what, as a former track I think
myself and I'm thinking about the tedious process and what
it takes to even get at the level you're at,
being elite where track it.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Takes up most of your life. What do you like
to do outside of track?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
You know, being that track is everything, you're always asked
about everything you talk about where's your other sense of
peace where you can just exhale and be like, Okay,
this is what I love, this is what I'm passionate about,
this is what I'm enthusiastic about.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
I'm when I able to get away.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
From Yeah, Honestly, I don't get much time away training
for all seven events. It's like I basically signed up
for seven times the work and the same working for
the same metal, same goal. But when I do get
away from track, the main thing for me, honestly is
my family and my friends. I have three sisters, so
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anytime or weekends that I can steal with them is
really how I feel like I.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Turned my brain off and then getting up.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I'm in my off season right now, so I'm
up visiting my boyfriend. That's definitely a way I can
turn my brain off spend time with my dog. You
don't have many hobbies besides track, honestly, which is something
I'm gonna work on. I'm trying to become a better chef.
Maybe this offseason thinks I don't usually make.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
We're starting not in the best place.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
But I was like, one week every week, I'm gonna
make something I've never made. Before and then kind of
just pick up new hobbies like.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That, who you who are you going to test it
out on this boyfriend if you wanted, you want to?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You want to tell the name?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yes you can know Darius, Darius Slayton is my boyfriend and.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
So wait my brother New York Giant Darius.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yes, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, which I'm sure is he is?
He is?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
He the the guinea pig that this new thing that
you try every week, like, hey, honey, look what I
made for you.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I was like, we're one weekend and I went safe
and it's decent. But he's he will be brutally honest
with me, which I appreciate.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He will always tell it to me straight.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
So I know, I'm gonna come with my AA and
look up maybe the simplest recipes and like the easiest
not to mess up. So what do you?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
What do you like cooking? You like cooking breakfast food?
You like cooking? I mean, are you a brunch type
of a lady or you you I mean you shrimp
scampy or you like you know, chicken palm you? I
mean what what?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
What's annahol is? So if somebody said you know what, Anna,
I want you to make me your favorite dish tonight.
What you what you cooking?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
My favorite dish is definitely breakfast. I think I do
a good breakfast.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's my favorite meal.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Yeah, my family to the day could eat eat for.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
Dinner sometimes yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Make like basically like an egg scramble bowl with like
mashed up hash browns, sausage, chicken, sausage, peppers, onions, spinach.
You could do like all in the bowl I eat
have for breakfast like every day before training.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So I forgot you're doing seven events. Yes, you could
eat that. That that ain't nothing. You probably could eat
two of those.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
No, eating enough is a struggle, honest. That's like one
of my biggest off track battles.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
So right, so let me ask you. Let me ask
you this. What's what's the training session?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Are you doing all seven events in one day? Are
you picking day and say I'm gonna work on this
one two events today and then Tuesday I work on
another two events and then X, Y and Z like
that or how you doing it?
Speaker 8 (42:21):
I usually did three events in a day and the lyft.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
So the running joke at our group is that they
call me nine to five because they're like, you're at
the track.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
From nine to five every day.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
But I usually do, Like an example, Monday would be
hurdles and then I would shot foot and then take
a little break maybe like thirty forty minutes for lunch,
come back and hide jump and then I probably get
to the weight room around like four, get them to
wait till like five thirty.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
And so that I started at ten.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So pretty much going from like ten to five thirty,
it just takes a lot a lot of time to
learn all that technique.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You've gotten, You've gotten better at the shot. I saw
you in the shot. I was like, okay, okay, I
see I'll see.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
The thank you.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
I was proud of that one. That used to be
a weakness for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I maybe would have named that before I named long
jump like a few years ago. So I was super
proud of that. And the Europeans are like such good throwers.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I was like, and you should be too, because of
your body type, how long you are, Yes, yeah, and
you should be able.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You should be able to launch the shot because I'm
looking at your body type and you look at them.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
They thought, I'm like, hold on, how you live? Yeah?
You shouldn't be able to throw it. I mean it
looked like they throwt it like it's a babe.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
My first like you twenty Worlds, I was like, there's
no way this, Like I'm the same size as this girl,
Like I used to.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
Tell myself like why aren't you small?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Like and I was like, I'm the same size as
girl in her shop.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
It's going two meters farther than mine. So I was like,
we have to catch up.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
The Europeans have typically just start technical events before us,
so they have a little bit of a jump start.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But yes, I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Happy I was able to catch up and pass most
of the girls that I needed to.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So you because you know mostly like you said, like
the throws and the jumps, the speed events the Americans,
you know, the two hundred, the hurdles, you.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Know things that you know, the things that require speed.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But man, when you look at stuff that that's a
lot of technique, I'm like, I'm be looking.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
I'll be looking at them like how you do that?
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
It is crazy because the stereotype is that like we're more,
we're faster, we're more powerful, and then they're just efficient
with how they work and their form and all of that,
and actually, which I feel like I can it's not her,
but her one of the coaches of my rivals.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
Like when I first came on the scene, they were like, oh.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
There's an American heptathlete, Like we haven't had a lot
in a while. And he was like, oh, well, she's
just fast, like of course typical of the Americans, but
like she has no technique.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
Remember that, Like two years ago, I.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Was like, I'm gonna work on my shot put in
my javelin, so definitely I've had to chip on my.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Shoulder there, right, So what how do you so for
a training session?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
How do you So you eat the bowl?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So you got scrambled egg, you got hash, you got sausage,
you got peppers. Okay, Now you go to the track.
So you probably probably I mean at the weight you're
at the work, you're expending the calories that you're expending, you.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Probably can eat about three thousand calories a day.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I mean I don't count calories, but I would bet
that that's close to what I'm eating.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Absolutely. Did you say, okay, I get a break you
eat breakfast? How soon after you eat breakfast? Do your
head to the track. You give yourself an hour sport
to digest.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
No, I sure, I wake up as late as I can,
but I live digest in the warm up. I'll be fine.
But I have a protein shake usually after my first event.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And then when I break, I break for lunch, and
so I'll eat like something with meat.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
I don't I count protein.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
So okay, trying to get like one hundred, one hundred
and twenty grams a day, which for someone my size
is a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's absolutely that's it's that's damn near. That's damn a
cal a.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Pound, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
I weigh a lot more than one hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
But no, but I'm saying this almost but I'm saying,
you know, but if you think about it, are one
hundred grams of protein one hundred and twenty gunds of protein.
That's a lot of cat And then when you throw
in I mean maybe rice or you know, some type
of leafy vegetable, kale, you know things like that. I
mean you you you getting a large. So now, okay,
(46:30):
you go back to the track, you wind down. What's dinner?
Speaker 8 (46:35):
It really depends. I feel like I usually I like
steak a lot. I eat a lot of steak, so
like a Chipotle bowl.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Okay, if I'm being lazy or I cook, sometimes I'll
make like crab cakes and like a pasta dish, something
hardy like that.
Speaker 8 (46:53):
And then I usually are.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
You taking that cat of can to cook?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Anna?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
As you say?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, in the day, but I want to cook more,
so that's my I'm trying to better at it. And
then before bed, I usually make myself like a Greeky
over bowl just to like get my last protein calories
in which yeah, typically has been a struggle for me.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
But we got a dial them this year, so now
I have my regimen.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
So do you you have do you have a nutritionist?
Is everything always on the healthy side? Do you do
you have any cheap meals like McDonald's like I love
to consume or is everything always.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
It had to be predicated towards what you do.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
I honestly feel like my mom did a really good
job when we were growing up.
Speaker 8 (47:41):
I like healthy food because that's what I grew up on.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
But my coaches and my nutritionists all the time are
like eat something dirty, like go have the pizza, have
the burger or whatever. So they're always telling reminded me
of that, So dinner sometimes will be something like that.
But really the thing is, I have a sweet tooth,
so I try to keep my main nailes clean.
Speaker 8 (48:03):
So then I'm like, okay, cookies, cake.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
By the time I'm eating all of that food, I'm
not that hungry for a giant sweet treat, but I will.
I won't tell myself no if I want, like if
I'm before bed, I want ice cream or I want
a little cookie or something like.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
I pretty much never know.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
But that's the thing that people get confused, Anna, is
that you don't realize how hard it is to consume
a healthy diet.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
When you eat.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Chicken, you eat chicken fish, or you eat lean cuts
of protein, and you eat leafy vegetables and you eat
brown rice or white rice or whatever. To try to
get to the allotment that you are it takes a lot.
I mean, you just get sometimes. I mean when I
was trying to consume four thousand calories a day but
it was healthy, bro, I just I just got you.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I'm just like, nah, bro, I'm good.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
No exactly, And that's honestly. We're off season.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
I was like, I lose muscles so fast, just because
I'm like, I don't have to force myself eat anymore.
Speaker 8 (49:00):
I won't I start.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
I restart our full training like ten pounds later, and
my coaches are like, all.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
Right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, and thank you for joining us. Congratulations on the
the World Championship gold medal. We got the ultimates. You
are obviously you're gonna competing that next year.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Correct, Yes, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Try for they don't have the multi which is a
little bit rude, but I'm gonna compete in probably the
high jump or the foreigner hurdles.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
I'll run on the circuit to qualify.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Okay, okay, look at that's that's what Jackie.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Did, So I'm gonna to qualify and make it there.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
That would be that would be unbelievable because they're not
very They're not very many women or athletes in that
point the CA athletes that can go into an open
event and be competitive, which I do believe you could
be in the four hundred hurdles. I do believe you
can be that because I've seen you run. Now you
have the endurance because you're greade to eight hundred, so
you have the strength to run the qua. Is you
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know that lack of castle build up about the three
hundred market?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yes, yes, no, those girls are so good at it,
and so I'm excited to give it, like, hopefully a
better effort than I have in the past, because usually
I just run him on a win, but I really
want to focus on it a little bit more. Next.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
What else, Well, congratulations, I know things are not going
well for the Giants, but tell him keep his head up,
stay healthy. And yes, when you come back and when
you win the Ultimate, when you come back and you
do something special, come back and join us and tell
us about it. Please, well do, Thank you very much,
thank you, thank you for joining us. Annah Hall, world
champion HEPTA athlete. Thank you Annah. Oh Joe, we got
(50:36):
breaking news another major trade between the Jags and the Browns.
Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom and Jets twenty twenty six
sixth round picks from the brown Browns get Tyson Campbell
the Eagles twenty twenty sixth seventh round picks from the
jag The trade partners from the night of the twenty
twenty five draft now pull off another mid season trade.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Hey, listen, that's that's a good tribe. That's a good trade.
Now I don't understand why they, Yeah, the jag going
for it. Oh yeah, listen, especially for the Jags, I don't.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
And this is the thing I would get ready to say,
Greg Newsom is is a phenomenal uncle.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
Greg Newsom ain't no slouts. You know, we we understand
what Denzel Ward is on the other side. But when
they try to go to Greg Newsom's side by a
young boy can play some ball.
Speaker 7 (51:22):
So this is a win for the Jags And with
great understanding of.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Why they did it is because, oh, we're finna push
all our chips to the front. Were pushing all our
chips to the front because we really believe we have
a chance right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing. Yep,
that's that's respectable. And if you're a Jaguars fan, I
commend ownership. I commend your GM, and I commend you
God damn head coach. They're done, pushed all they chips
(51:48):
on the table.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
We going in. He unk the chap. Funny as hell,
unk what happened? They've just been going in on you.
They going in on me, Tell about it.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
I looked like Debo I look like a Mexican with
this damn flat or and.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
What they going on me for? What I do?
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (52:06):
What I do? O?
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yo?
Speaker 7 (52:08):
They killing me?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
What they say I do? Hold on, Chad, what I do?
I was just asking. I was just asking a question. Damn.
I can't ask no questions.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
It ain't funny boy.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Look, I know you guys think, but here's the real
when it comes to track and field, I don't have
a research team. I'm old enough to remember, y'all. I'm
fifty seven. So I go all the way back. I
remember the eighty four Olympics. I remember Soul, I remember Barcelona,
I remember Atlanta, I remember Athens. What y'all want me
(52:45):
to I remember Sydney was in two thousands after it
was the four, Beijing was eight, London was twelve, Rio
was sixteen twenty one. I remember what y'all want me
to do. I remember the World Championship when they came out.
I'm sorry that y'all can remember your way home, not
even our fault. I've told you if you know Shannon Sharp,
(53:06):
if you watch me at any point in time, I
told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes,
I love football and I know the history of football.
I know the history of basketball, but I love track
and field. It's I was playing around the track and field.
I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football,
I go to the gym, but when track and field long,
(53:27):
I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I
watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch
with the sound And for them to take their time
out to come on Nightcap. What other platform other than
my boy Justin Gatling and his partner that give track
and field athletes the platform like we do talking?
Speaker 7 (53:46):
Well, yeah, you're right, you're right by that.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I'm sorry that you know. I asked questions that I
think the chat would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
What do you eat? What are your training sessions? Like X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yes, so I'm I'm I'm confused at what y'all think
I was supposed to do, like like stutter or go
through it. Yes, there are no notes on here with
Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she
was a Florida lum. I know she from Colorado. I mean, yeah, y'all, don't.
Speaker 6 (54:16):
Worry about it because they're still killing me. And they
told me I looked like Jody from Baby.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Boy Man people weird.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
I mean like like I'm not supposed to ask any
questions like I was supposed to be like, uh.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
What do you what are you like? No, I know
that I know the history.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
I can't wait for us to have Ryan Crowzer on
so I can talk to him about the shot the greatest,
the greatest shot put her ever. Anna was talking about
the Jackie's record that she set in Soul seventy to
ninety one. Seems unbreakable, that woman's shot put in the USS. Sorry,
ain't nobody breaking that one?
Speaker 7 (54:53):
No, no, no, no, you know it's funny.
Speaker 6 (55:00):
Is the same way you are about track and field,
one of the one sporting, one of the ones.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
You like that about soccer?
Speaker 7 (55:06):
Oh my god, well soccer, come on my phone on
do not to serve?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
You know.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
On Saturday and Sunday, I'm mad. I fly to London
in the morning, my flight at five o'clock.
Speaker 6 (55:18):
I'm mad that I'm going to London and everybody don't
got them International break. Everybody on international break, so out
of the perfect time for me to catch a goddamn
I can sneak you go catch a.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
Game, right, everybody o Jo.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Does this mean we'll see Travis full time on offense?
Greg Newsom was the number twenty six pick in the
twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Tyson Campbell was picked thirty
three in that same draft, just seven picks apart.
Speaker 6 (55:44):
You know what, I'm curious what they're gonna do because
they have a phenomenal nigger in Jordan Lewis Right, I'm
not sure who's on the other side, but you know,
Greg news is coming in on one side, and.
Speaker 7 (55:53):
He's gonna he's gonna be that guy, that guy that
can do it.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
I still think they know Travis Hunter wants to continue
to contry be on defense.
Speaker 7 (56:01):
I think he'll continue to have those packages.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
They're gonna find ways to fix to fit him in
there at some point. But what we saw offensively, he's
too dynamic on They have to find ways to get
in the ball. On offense, he's too dynamic. You put
the ball in the area anywhere in the vicinity, he's
going to make that play, especially though jump balls that are.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Where he can showcase his athleticism.
Speaker 7 (56:24):
Yeah, they become eighty twenty with somebody like that. Yeah,
So I mean, listen, he's too dynamic.
Speaker 6 (56:30):
You know, and showing flashes of brilliance in which we
saw at Colorado on both sides of the ball. So
I hope they allow him to continue to doing doing
this thing on both sides have given them a healthy
a healthy count on both sides of the ball. We're
going to be effective and efficient. But they don't overload him,
and he's able to He's able to play at his
(56:51):
best on both sides.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
And that's what it comes down to, because they they
they need a special player, yeah, on one side of
the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if
he's average on both sides of the ball. Oh, Joe,
he has to be dynamic on one of the other, right,
because that's why you traded up on Yo, That's why
you gave up what you gave up to get it.
Because if you gave up what you get it and
you just got an average player, that that doesn't make
(57:15):
sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him
be dynamic, and then you, like you said, bring him
in on the package. I mean, personally, Joe, I still
think he's better at defense. I think it's his instincts.
His ball skills are just second to none. I know
you like it because of the jump ball. But right
now it's just athletal system. Now once he learns the
route tree. I give prime example Tyreek. Remember when Tyreek
(57:36):
first came in, he was a gadget guy, and then
all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree. Tyreek
has played his way into a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
Travis Hunter has thatcountability. He just got to get better
running the round. Right now, they're only running on spots
and jump balls.
Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yeah, if I could get If I get Trav, I
know you're gonna see this. If I can get with
you in the off season.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, grateful that.
Speaker 6 (58:00):
I need you for two months. Two months were working
four days a week. All we all I need is
an hour, all your time for four weeks. I know
you already have your train. I'm not trying to step
on nobody toes. I'm talking about running routes. Yeah, I'm
talking about giving the illusion of doing something that you're
really not at full speed. Oh my goodness, brother, what
I could do with you, Oh my goodness, what I
(58:21):
could do and listen, Now you know that's my specialty.
Now I do man, hey trap, come on, hall, let
you boy. In the off season, I don't need much time.
An hour day, that's it, rock running.
Speaker 7 (58:37):
I wish they would come up there and play press
come on up here if you want to sh
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