Nightcap Hour 1: Johnny Manziel, Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Alabama beats Vanderbilt at home, the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and Colorado FALLS AGAIN!

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Johnny Manziel react to Miami beating Florida State, the Alabama Crimson Tide beats Vanderbilt at home and the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and much more!

04:20 - Miami beats FSU
14:15 - Bama beats Vanderbilt
29:40 - Gators beat Texas A&M
47:15 - UCLA upsets Penn St
56:30 - Texas A&M beats Mississippi State

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Speaker 3 (03:42):
Let's jump into the game that just ended.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
The number three Miami Hurricanes improved to five and zero
thanks to a twenty eight to twenty two victory over
the Florida State Seminals. Miami led twenty eighty three before
holding off Florida State's rally. The Noel scored nineteen points
in the fourth quarter. Hurricanes quarterback car Back threw four touchdown.
He was twenty of twenty seven two hundred and forty yards,

(04:04):
four touchdown, clean game, didn't turn it over. This was
the kind of Carson Beck that Georgia Bulldogs thought they
were gonna get.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Johnny, Yeah, but unfortunately he didn't play, didn't play quite
as well.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
But I think a lot of the pressure is off
of him now because the University of Georgia going to
back to back national championship with Stetson Bennett being the
most outstanding player in the National Championship game. That added
a lot of pressure to the guy that was coming
in following the guy, not to say he doesn't have
pressure following cam Ward who was the number one overall pick,
but bought them national championship. But Miami are onto something, Johnny,

(04:40):
What did you like because they did.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
A great job.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, you know Florida State rallies late twenty eight,
twenty two, But what did you like about what you
saw from the U and more importantly Carson Beck.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Look, I think it's one of those things where sometimes
when you go down to Miami and you hit that
South Beach, you're around that, they get your swagger back
a little bit. Yeah, you get that's been hungry for success.
You get a coach that has a lot of success.
He's a great coach. You get a new start. Georgia
wasn't for him and what he was doing, but you
still saw flashes, you still saw pieces of what he

(05:12):
was as a player. And now you look seven incompletions
where it's seventy five percent damn near on a completion
percentage two forty one four tds. He's only taking one sack.
That's good efficient ball. You look at them right now,
the top five team in the country and rolling you
look at what they have rest of their schedule. This

(05:33):
is the Miami team that is poised for the playoffs,
with a quarterback that's playing very well and the rest
of the team that is. Yeah, when you look at
it the end of this game, does it look a
lot closer than what it actually was. I'm sitting here
watching this game tonight. It really twenty eight to three. Yeah,
it's really really what it is. You can call it
what you want at to end and like whatever it
may be. But this was a beat down and a

(05:55):
team that's playing really well. You look to go to
Louisville at home, standing for the home on the road
to s and U, Syracuse, North Carolina State, Virginia, teching Pitt.
You're telling me we can't, we can't clean that up,
and yeah, we can't come out here and do what
we need to do.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
This is a team that's playing well, and the U
is hungry for success.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
As long as they don't look too far ahead. Oh, Joe,
I like what Miami is doing. They're playing really well
on both sides of the football. They're attacking the quarterback,
getting after the quarterback, and you're right, at the end
of the day, it's going to come down to Carson Back.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Can he take care of the football.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Can he continue to play as well as he's been playing,
Because as long as they don't look too far ahead,
because as Johnny laid out some of their schedule ahead,
sometimes you could look too far damn and somebody nip
you had to takee oh, Joe, what did you like?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Let's stay on Miami. What did you like about what
you saw from the Canes?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Well, listen, obviously Carson Beck, Carson Back looking really well.
Everyone talked trash about him getting the Niro money and
coming to Miami, you know, saying he wasn't going to
be what we think he is despite what was being paid.
But obviously he's lived up to expectations. I see the
receiving corps, A CJ. Daniels, Joseph Trader, Ray Ray Joseph

(07:07):
and the legendary stay with me real quick, the legendary
day County Deyla and Tonio Brown his son Malakai Tony
out there cutting up. You know, he got he got
some he got some big shoes, the feel and he's
doing it very well. I'm sure making Pops proud. It
is really good and it makes Carson back job absolutely

(07:27):
easy because of his supporting cast. You have a supporting
cast like that, it makes your job easy. And obviously
they're able to establish the running game as well, and
that allows him to move the ball the way they do.
At at one point, the score was twenty three, all
those garbage points. I hate when coach Johnny and they
do it in the NFL as well, as you get
a substantial lead and you take your foot off the gas.

(07:49):
And I think they do it on the purpose because
everybody does the same thing instead of running goddamn scoreboard up.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I think the thing is that Ocho, it's easy to
play from behind than it is to play from ahead,
because you throw caution to the win when you're behind,
because what the hell I have to lose? O? Yo,
I'm down twenty eight three, So if I lose forty
one to three, ain't nobody gonna say nothing. And so
you do get a little cautious, we throw a little
run here and there, because they like the same thing

(08:19):
with Atlanta. You see, they were aggressive, just like you
want them to be. And now they had the biggest
loss in postseason history, and it happened to be in
the biggest game in postseason history, because they were like,
oh well, oh cho wanted to stay aggressive and then
let a team get back into the ball game. You
ahead twenty eight three, you shouldn't have fewer rush attempts
than the team that's down twenty eight three. But that's

(08:40):
what the Falcons had, and I understand that. But I'm
a firm believer in Johnny. You let me know what
you think. I think it's easy to play from behind,
that it is a head because like I said, I
can run triple reverse, I can run flee flick, I
can do whatever I want to do because I'm already
losing by three, three scores, So what if I lose
by four scores or five scores. It's like a damn
Marino used to say all the time, Hill, if I

(09:01):
threw three picks, who cares?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
If I through five? I will keep I will keep goodding.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
It definitely gives you that mindset and that attitude to
just go out and let it rip and it doesn't
really matter. Like you throw a pick and what we
get beat, we get beat. At the end of the day,
it's the win loss into the game decision. You either
come out with the dub or you come out with
the nil one of the two. But playing ahead and
getting ahead and having them kind of crawl back in
definitely tightens up your playbook changes what you're doing mm

(09:29):
and when you're behind, you ain't got no choice but
to send it to try and get back in this thing.
You're taking your shots. You know that middle read you
may have that's never really on on the on the
playbook for that play but it gets a little bit
open you rip it in that situation type of thing.
So you know, look overall for this game, super surprising

(09:50):
last week after what Florida State did early in the
season to go and lose the game like Virginia and
then you have a chance to try and bounce back
and play a good Miami team and you really not competitive.
Does the score at the end of it look like
you may have been sure, but in the reality, really
you really weren't. So got to be disappointing for Florida State.

(10:12):
Got to be back to the drawing board. I still
think they have good pieces, but it's not going to
be this year.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I agree, And I think the thing is when
they beat at lat when they beat Atlanta, beat Alabama
in the fashion that they beat them. We had very
high expectations because you looked at the ACC is down
this year. Clemson is not what Clemson normally is, and
so that's really the only really true test that we
think that was in the ACC. But then, as you mentioned, Johnny,
they go I think it was a Thursday night and

(10:38):
they go to Virginia and the Cavaliers nip them.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Now they come home. Now, look, Miami ain't no pushover now.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
But we looking at them like, Okay, this is gonna
be a very interesting game considering but now all of
a sudden we looking at him like, man, they went
on the road. They lost to Virginia, But Virginia might
be better than we thought they were because they wanted
a close ball game again today, guys, So Virginia might
be better than we previously thought. But I definitely, I
definitely agreed that Florida State. I'm disappointed at what I've

(11:05):
seen over the last two weeks. Miami is what we
thought they would be. That's the reason why they've been
ranked so high. Coming into the season. People had a
lot of expectations, and as you mentioned, Ojoe, this is
why you give somebody four million dollars, Like, we're a
quarterback away. We had a quarterback that goes no more
in the draft. Uh, and so let's we still have
pieces coming back if we can get another facilitator. I

(11:26):
like our chances and they pulled the trigger, But uh, Miami.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
This is still in state. This is still in state.
This is still one of those battles in state. If
we're in Texas and we're playing another Texas team, you
want to come out and show some pride and jown
some love for your state.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
So this this is this is like, oh, we get
a good team coming to town. It's just a game
on the schedule. You look at their schedule for Miami,
this is the last ranked team they currently played for
the rest of the season. For Florida State, they're trying
to bounce back off a bad loss. But if they
win this game, they're right back into where they want
to be for playoff contention. You beat Bama, who's now rolling,

(12:06):
and you beat Miami. So you're coming into this game
of pride, a full week of practice and you know
what you're up against. At the end of the day,
they didn't bring their best stuff, but it's still interstate
where you're trying to go out and beat somebody that's
a neighbor.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right. Yeah, when you play these when you have these
kind of teams, you got to U. You got Florida
State and you got Florida and the thing you like,
it's almost like the Commander in Chief trophy. I WoT
bragg it, right, bro? You know you Army and Navy
in the air Force. Broh, I'm trying to kick both
of y'all lass because I want that trophy. It is
one of the other we Look, we might not be
going to no Bowl game, and we might only win

(12:40):
three games or two games, but as long as those
two games against Army and Navy, if you're an air Force,
if you're if you're air force, if it's against Army
and Navy or your Navy, it's against air Force in
the Army.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't care, but I want that trophy.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
And so that's how Miami looks at like, Look, we
want to be king because it's.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
A recruiting battle.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Also, yeah, you know you try to aid y'all think
about going to Florida. Y'all saw what we did to him.
You think about going to Florida State you saw.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
What we did to him.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Y'all need to come on down there to the you
cause ain't nothing popping in Gainesville, and ain't nothing popping
in Tallahasset.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Something popping Gainsville to night? Hey, did you boy?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Dj Languey played really well tonight that night and he
need and he needed to. Let's talk about the game
you was talking about earlier. Alabama Beats gets their revenge
on Vanderbilt. Unfortunately, Diego Pavia, he couldn't replicate his performance
from last year historic upset of the Crimson Tide in Nashville.
Pavia's two red zone turnover Saturday helped Alabama Avengers first

(13:37):
lost to Vandabilt in four decades. Tyd Simpson was sensational again.
Twenty three or thirty one, three hundred and forty yards,
two touchdown and the Crimson Tide comes away with points
on each of the first four trips in the red zone. Johnny,
I know the tide we're getting after you today, But
it's Bama back.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
If Tyd Simpson is gonna play at that level of
football and they are going to be punishing up front
like what I saw live and in person today. The
gaps in the holes that they have from an offensive
standpoint today were massive. They were gashing Bandy all day
and coming into this game. You know, you look at

(14:18):
the schedules of both teams. Bandy had scored thirty five
plus in every game. There's a game where they scored
seventy that your offense is rolling, okay, And the only
question was is Vandy's defense in the trench is good
enough to hold up? And in reality, when you look
at it today and you see and you watch the
game from the sideline.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
The answer was known. And it is a team game.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
I think if you look at what Diego Pavia did
in the first half of this game, he played great.
I think from an offensive play calling standpoint, and what
they do offensively great.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
They do a lot of motion.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
They did an unbelievable little fake run where running back
comes back and they option it to him and he scored.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Their creative.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
And to get back to your question a little bit,
Bama is playing at a level right now where they
can compete with anybody in the country. If Ty Simson,
if Simson's going to play ball the way that he
has played the last two weeks, Alabama has a chance
to play with anybody in the country. I had to
go up to him after the game. I'm on the field,
I'm obviously sitting there in a Diego Pavia jersey. It

(15:24):
is my dog, And people were asking me in the
stadium and well, you're wearing that jersey. I'm like, what
do you want me to do? Walking here in a
mark Ingram jersey? And I can't go back to A
and M in two weeks?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Do you want me to do?

Speaker 5 (15:35):
This is my guy, a guy I talked two weekly,
and I'm pulling for him. Now you look at it overall,
and I went up to Diego after the game.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
This doesn't change anything for Vandy.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I think they didn't play well in the second half,
but they can.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Have a loss in the SEC.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
He can have a game like that and still do
the things that he wants to do and they want
to do as a team. Do they have a tough schedule, Sure,
but you lost to a good team on the road
in Brian Denny, which if you go back through history,
not a lot of people have won that. And I
is that game started to get out of hand. Those
fans started to come down to that field area and

(16:11):
started to rip me apart. You're gonna see some clips
of me busting out the Heisman and tell people to
shine my trophy because I hadn't been back there since
twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
In that stadium snohing you can say to me.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
I'm sitting here supporting my boy and uh oh yeah.
By the way, I already did what I needed to
do in this stadium. I already got something that's at
my grandma's house for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
So I'm good.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Y'all can sit here and I'm chilling. And by the way,
people in Tuscolos, a nice look at this house.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
People taking care of me. They love me out here
except for you little frat punks. Were good.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
And last thing, I got all my money back I
lost on Bandy tonight, So bang.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Bama look good.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Hey, oh Joe, you see that three hundred seventy pound
full back, that running back now big probably.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Hey, let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
When he makes it to the next level, whatever team
takes him needs to keep him in that same in
that same area of special players and being a gadget
player and the one, the one coach or the one team.
I think he's Dan camp Lyons, the lion that Hey,
Dan Campbell, I was just getting ready to say it.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was already thinking that cause you saw it, because
you saw him throw a screen pass to pay sue.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
You see him throw a back shoulder fade the deck
or tackle.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
So they know not off their office of Ben Johnson,
and I don't know the coordinator now, but they they'll
they'll try anything anywhere because it's all about winning, and they'll, hey,
you're playing well, hey son.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You ever caught the ball? You ever caught him pass before?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Not a long time, but we're gonna throw your ass
one this week, so get get ready.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
It's so funny when you think about it. At what point,
at what time has it ever? All I can think
about is refrigerated paridy.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
The fridge. God, yeah, the fridge.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, getting that dive back in the days. I had
never seen anything like that before. But now to see
a guard or a tackle out there catching screen passes,
running the ball too.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
They put him in an offset eye he got he
came to the quarterback, oh with the pocket and then
bounced it.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Hold on, You ain't see his footwork when he caught
the smite the screen.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Last week, last week in Georgia. Yeah, you ain't see
the footwork on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
O Joe, and did he tried to drive for the
he tried to die for the pylon. But you know
he had that hardness on. Oh Joe, you know you
got that harness on. You can't really raise your arm
too high to keep it from going so high. But
it was fun to watch. But when you look at
I agree with both of you said about especially with
you Johnny, about Vandy. When you look at Vandy, their

(18:58):
defense is really good. They got after, they got after
Todd Simpson and the Alabama offensive line. They did pressure it,
but they got a quarterback. Now, it's hard to win
in today's game at any level if you don't have
that guy. Now, that was upon a time if you
had an outstanding defense, Yeah you got what you could.

(19:19):
You could run the football and win. Yeah, not anymore.
Those days are long gone.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Hey, hey, you can't.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
And Johnny, I'm sure we'll talk about this team most
of the time, especially today's game, and you throw the
ball so much. You have to throw the ball to
win because some of the defenses aren't as good as
it used to be back in the day. The one
player that you can't hide and we'll get exposed. Is
your quarterback?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Is your quarterback? And I saw today because the entire
world where they told me, Johnny, I'm sure you heard it, knock,
I'm sure you heard it that he was the next
he was the next coming of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Or he was supposed to be right.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Well, you know I'm going with that.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, Oh yeah, it's tough. It's tough to play without
a quarterback now, because, like you said, Ojoe, that's the
only position that you can't hide. I can roll coverage,
I can slide the line. I can chip if I'm
the running back. You know what I'm saying. If a
guy doesn't have great hands, I bring somebody else in
and let him do play third downs if the guy.
You know, I can do a lot of different things

(20:20):
to hide a lot of players.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I can slam my offensive line to keep you off
off my excuse, my defensive line, to keep you off
my backers.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
But the quarterback, how do you hide it?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You can't? And listen today in this game. One thing
about college.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Football that's different from the NFL is an NFL Cover
two defense. You watch it. There were teams I had
a brianer erlack on my podcast.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
He like, man, we ran cover two all day long.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yes, cover two in college football if you were not
really fundamentally sound and where you're supposed to be and
your backers get depth and your corners play it right.
Vandy today stayed and covered two for too long, and
ty Simpson did what he needed to do with his
eyes and threw the whole shot maybe six times.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Oh, when you got wide open whole shots all day
on third down, second down and long, they're getting behind
the sticks and Andy gets a second and twenty bang
whole shot for eighteen and it's third and two. Those
were plays where they just got I'm just sitting there
on the sideline screaming like give me a two man
mix it up. They ran a simple stick and go

(21:31):
on the outside corner and backer boat jump on the
on the lower route and ty Simpson just drills the
whole shot before the safety can get there, and it's
like fifteen yards, sixteen yards, twenty two yards un and
you can't have that.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
And they just got eaten away.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
And especially when you're getting gash in the run game
two and you do finally get dash where and you
do finally get into long situations and you can't get
off the field, you're not going to have success. Go
to cover three, give me some quarters, something a Johnny.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
In situation like that, you see a game like today,
you gotta be able to take away something he gonna take.
You're gonna take away the pass. But you can't allow
him to dominate on both sides. You can't allow him
to be successful in the past and the run. Then
you at the mercy.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
And look, we know how to get you out of
cover too, o Joe. We run your ass out of
Cover two. Absolutely, And because Alabama was running the ball
well enough those lines, the linebackers take one step forward.
Now that's an extra couple of steps that you're gonna
have to take to get back. And then by that
time Bama receivers are in those gaps late. And that's
and that's what you have to do.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
A lot of teams play what we call tap play
cover two and they call it run Tampa two where
they take the mic backer and they run. But when
you do that, yeah, but here's the thing. You Hey,
you take off like you try to get down the
hole and then you just stop or you run, you
run him down the hole, and then you take the
receiver that's outside the run numbers and run him on
the dagger route.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
And they did it all night. They did it all night.
I got matter what.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
They did, they and then even in early in the game,
even in cover three, they were just seeming it, making
sure like it was just a good offensive game plan
from Bama. And to be honest, Vandy coming out in
the second half and not being able to score points,
having a couple three and outs and giving them the
ball so much time and possession for Alabama versus Vandy

(23:29):
in the second half was atrocious if you're a Vandy fan.
But listen, this is still a good football team and
Vandy it's a trending forward Alabama team. And so many
people after last week when we spoke, were like, man,
you're a Bama hater and this and that. I ain't
gotta love them. I ain't go there. What are we

(23:51):
talking about. I respect the SEC and I love SEC football.
There's a lot of people here that treated me great today,
and tusk loose to respect what I did and respect
the matchups we had. So you got to look at
it the same way. With Diego Pave and what Vandy
did last year. They came and got the better of
you out of nowhere. Now you come back, you get
your revenge and it's a good game. But it's split
one one, they say you.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
It is what it is. And to be honest, these
teams may meet again.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Also, this is not your your father and your grandfather's commodoores.
I mean when when with the last time, I mean
we saw a banded rank sixteen.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
When do we have last time?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
We saw expectations normally, you going to Vandy, You're going
to get a great education. You go in to Alabama,
You trying to go to the NFL. You go to Georgia,
You're trying to go to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Story today, I was telling story today when we played
Vandy in twenty thirteen. I had half a shoulder, half
an ankle and went twenty five and twenty six and
the ball barey never touched the ground and we were
out there doing this. Ain't that Vandy. And it's not
props to them, props to their program, props to what
they've done. But sometimes when you take the gold post

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out and you run it all the way down Broadway
to the river had done set well with Alabama fans,
and they were they were jewed for that one.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Today.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Oh man, look about they're lucky. They lucky they ain't
scoop up Alabama buses and take them and throw them
in that damn river. We beat your answer, I'll be
thinking about it. Some of their parents wasn't alive. But
last time they beat beat Alabama. And you think I'm
not gonna do something, you could find us a million
dollars the gold post coming down on both ends, not

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just one, both of them taking both b O F
L both both down. Man, come on, that's about it.
Vanderbilt beating Alabama.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah, been a long time since.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yes, how do we feel about uh calendar board's seat now?
Two weeks later than what we were talking about three
weeks ago? He heard all the talk they they put
a little cushion under that thing.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Huh, absolutely, they absolutely did. Well.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Look, I think the thing is when they I think
they said this record, I think he's like one seventeen
and seventeen.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
But you at Alabama, Alabama, I ain't that James Franklin record.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Alabama measured success in SCC championships and national championships.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's how they measure success.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
You Okay, you want to be ten and three, but
if you bring us the SEC championship and you go
play for the you go play for a national championship,
We'll forgive that all that. Twelve and one, thirteen and one,
and you ain't an SCC championship game and you're not
in the national champan Manbama ain't trying to hear all
that because they because what they're gonna say, been there,
done that.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Those are fans that will spoiled you get.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
You get coach Bryant for two decades and then you
get another two decades out of Nick Saban. You win third,
you win twelve national championships? How many did you play for?
How many SEC championship did you win? That's the expectations
of Alabama.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
That's as I'm for bandy today and people are looking
at me like we're hosting you here and this and that.
I go, how many times have y'all won or been
how much success? There's nothing to sprinkle in a loss
here and there, but it hasn't been consistent at all.
So the bandy and what they're doing with their success,

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I was pulling for that and Pavia is a great kid.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
He is a great dude.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
He's got I see so much of myself and him
that I'm going to continue to be friends with him
and try and help him. That's what I'm gonna do.
But you look at it, you guys both tell me
what you think. The rest of the schedule for Alabama,
they play at Maszoo next week, they play Tennessee game home,
they play South Carolina on the road, they play LSU

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at home, and they play oh you at home, and
then in the season of course with Auburn. So this
we're gonna see exactly what you're made of. You got
you got three ranked, two ranked matchups coming up South Carolina,
who who knows they can get a little bit better?

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And then you've got two more. This is well, say
here is he back? Exactly? He'll be back that here
will be back by eleven fifteen.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Okay, we'll see there you go.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
It ain't stopping, it ain't slowing down. This is s
He's football.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Missoo's gonna be tough. Yeah, South Carolina'll be tough on
the road.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Tennessee. Tennessee shouldn't be Georgia.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, it doesn't matter what Auburn's record is the Iron
Bowl is always always good.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You already know I'm trying to wreck your season. I
really am. I mean we're not going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I like it. I mean we can't go. You can't even.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
The Gators reaped havoc on arch Manning to take down
the number nine Texas Longhorse twenty nine to twenty one.
All that preseason height with the number one ranking and
all the excitements surrounding arch Manning era are long in
the rear view mirror. Arch finish with two hundred and
sixty three pass yards, a pair of touchdowns, and a
pair of ironts a defense that had been elite so

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far this season.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
With gash for one hundred and fifty nine rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
By that Gators attack, there may be an outside chance
this team can get back in championship capability, but.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Texas don't look good.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Man, no hey, and I'm gonna go first. Obviously, if
they're to get in back of contention and have any
chance at winning, let alone just throughout the season as
opposed to even thinking about getting at the playoffs, they
have to have better quarterback play on They got to
have better quarterback play you got to see the field
a little bit better, You got to understand what you're seeing,

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being able to process defenses before they happen. No, no disrespect,
I'm just saying in general, their quarterback play is one
of the reasons why you're in the situation you're in
now now, despite what all the analysts say, all the
people say, and and then with the praises and how
you're supposed to be, he's gonna need a year like this.
He's gonna need a year like this with some bumps,

(30:03):
some bumps and bruises and grinding and getting familiar with
what's going on this year and me and I'm assuming
maybe next year he will come back much better, having
a year under his belt, to get familiar with the
speed of the game, being able to process things a
little faster and know what's coming, and knowing some of
the nuances and what you can and can't do, as

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far as taking chances with the ball.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Sometimes how it just feels to go into these stadiums
and into these big games. Right for him, It's not
Archer's fault. And we have sat here and I've been
critical of him, and I've said certain things, and it's
not his fault.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
It's not his fault. His last name is what it is.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
It's not his fault that people were clamoring for him
last year with Quinn yours. And when I saw the
score tonight, of course, being an Aggie, they laugh at
our pain every single year.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
We're the butt of the joke every single year. So
now it's my turn.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Okay, I'm laughing, And I said, man, I bet you boys,
miss Quinn yours. I bet all that clamoring and all
that John about Quinn yours Quinn was slinging it. Quinn
got you to between two plays to get into the
Natty the Michigan year that they won it. So listen,
it's not Arch's fault. He's a sophomore. He is a

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young kid that is developing under a very good coach
in a program that has potential. But this is a
Florida team that we have sat here for countless minutes
and said.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
What the hell they doing? Wait?

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Can we get Rbic? Can we get Jimbo? Can we
get something? But you look, Lagway played great. That is
the Lagway we expected to see. And when you look
at it from a Texas standpoint, Arch Manning being the
leading rusher with thirty seven yards and as a team
Russian for fifty two. You can't get out your own shadow.
That is carry two terrible. So look, this is the

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Texas team too that has opportunity. You still got chances.
You go and lose one to Florida.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Guess what.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Guess what next week is that once foot down the
middle in Dallas. Yeah, ranked top five, you gonna.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Win that game.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
He's gonna get out of there.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
You never know, is Materier back. Maybe you catch them
this year without their starting quarterback. All right, So for
Texas it's not all bad. They're gonna catch some flag
for the Aggies and me because we're finally winning and
you guys taking ele versus a team.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
That's been terrible.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
But at the end of the day, for Arch, these
are growing pains a year for him as a sophomore.
He can come back two years and be a great
quarterback and have a great career and do what he
needs to do and be a Texas legend. But for
right now, this team the preseason number one, they're not
that team that we thought they were.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think the thing is is that when you look
at it, everybody all Texas fans put in Arch put
in Arch, y'all you were and I was like, I
thought you were were bad. I wasn't clamoring for arch
Manning because I had seen enough. Because I'm seen him
putting up stats against San Jose State. I said, Bro,
that's not SEC competition. Now when I see him put
up numbers like that against SEC competition, then maybe I'll

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start clamoring for him. But the thing that's working against
Arch is expectations and that last name. Because the thing
was happening, man, Peyton would have made that throw. Peyton
would have did that, Eli, He ain't even like Bro.
You do realize, like those were number one overall draft picks,
both of them with number one overall draft picks. Peyton

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is a top five quarterback and you might not take
him out of the top three. With all that being said,
Eli just one of the best big game quarterbacks in
NFL history beat Tom Brady twice in the most meaningful
game that our sport has to offer.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
But I mean, who's surprised. Did y'all?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Did y'all really y'all really thought that arch Manny was
gonna be Peyton?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Y'all really thought I did?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
I thought it was gonna be great because most of
the time, you know what happens when you come from
that type of linage of great quarterbacks. Most of the
time it trickles down one after another.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
It works. There's one thing each.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's the mental side of things as to how to
carry yourself side of things. It's what you see from
the greats that you've been around with access that nobody
in the world gets to see.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
But where he went to school.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
When you go watch arch Manning highlight tape and you
see the dudes that are chasing after him, yeah, my
grandma and a wheelchair move faster than some of them boys.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
They were chasing after him. He ain't play six A.
Me and my boys were talking about this other day.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
If you put him in six A Dallas or Houston football,
you go see some dogs, You go to see some
people who can play. He didn't play that competition, So
this is his first level of playing guys who are real,
real dogs. You play in the SEC and you get
an offer and you're a starter. You can play. You
got the side, you got the speed. You don't see

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a lot of you don't see a lot of bombs
out there, So yeah, yeah, it's gonna take some time
for him to get used to that. And it's not
his fault. That's just where he went to high school.
I didn't. I didn't go to a high school that
was five A, six A in Texas. But my coaches
were so gangster that they wanted to go play those
guys in our non conference is they're like, you know what,

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even if we get smoked, we're gonna see stuff that
we may not see in the playoffs, or we'll be
ready for the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
So it made us better.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
So this, if you handle it the right way, as
he's gonna have Peyton and Eli and everybody in his ear.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Listen, failure produces growth. This stuff produces growth. And Texas goes.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Eight and four this year after being preseason number one.
That's hungry off season. That's growth.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
And the funny thing up to about it about it,
Johnny and like the kind of the peeback of what
I was saying about. Obviously Arch and I mean Arch
Peyton and he like being so good and why I
thought we, hell, well, maybe he's gonna follow right behind.
Because I look at the Bosa brothers, I look at
the White brothers. I just look at how they both
obviously were graded their respective crafts. So I expected after

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hearing all the noise about Archie. I'm expecting him because
I've never seen him play. I never saw him play.
I didn't see him play in high school. Saw Small
symbitize him as a freshman. So I'm thinking, well, hell,
cue ears, quinn Erros is now gone. I'm thinking for
the be all world, and then come to find out
it's really not what I thought it would be, and

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just growing paints, growing paints.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
O Joe, your pointed valid when you look at brothers.
But their dad wasn't the sons. Hey, Archie Manning, I
remember Archie Manning playing. He's the number two pick in
the drown.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
He wasn't Peyton.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
We talked about this, the likelihood. So you want God
to just give you everything, you know what. I'm in
the Hall of Fame and I want my son to
be so magic Johnson and all these kids with Son,
you want them to be the clearan of what the
dad was. Bobby Bonds was an outstanding player. He wasn't
Barry Ken. Griffy Senior was an outstanding major league player.

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He wasn't Junior. Yeah, that ain't happening. So the likelihood
of like.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Really, yeah, I thought it had been three I thought,
and a young he got a long way to.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Go now he got too.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
He got two four years after this one, so you
can look up. He can stay do the Colt McCoy thing,
stay his entire career at Texas.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Oh, I think he would for three years, and you
could look up.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
He can be the number one pick in the draft
in twenty twenty eight or whatever it may be.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
He can't.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
He still has that, but he has to grow and
he needs reps. He needs time. He got the lineage,
he's got everything. Like you said, it just takes some time. Man.
He's not where he needs to be or where everybody
thought he was. Everybody wants things to move so quick.
Get him out. He's the first pick in the draft
this year and that and reality. Let the kid be

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a kid and grow and get an education and have
fun and grow into the player that he deserves and
needs to be.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
A Look at Dale and Steph dal Curry played sixteen
seventeen years in the NBA. Dal Curry is not his son,
and that's no knock because when you have that kind
of longevity, obviously you can play. Yeah, absolutely, but Steph
Curry is a transcendent player. And so the likelihood, like
I said, to be that, like I said, you get brothers.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Look, you get the Watts, you get TJ and JJ,
me and my brother Rondy and Tiki.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
You get Clay Matthews and you get Bruce Matthews.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
In that situation, though, you guys get to grind together, right, Yes,
you get to grow together.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
You got to see him and learn from him.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
And following that, when it comes that cade's apart, Yes,
and you see it from a sideline when you're six
years old and Peyton's winning a Super Bowl, It's not
the same as having your older brother two years apart.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Who is You're seeing it right in front of you.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's different because you're asking yourself, am I too hard?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Am I heart enough?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
And then he has to deal with Your dad would
have made that play man, Your uncle would have completed
that pass man.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
You not your Because I told you the story, ohold.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
That King Griffith said he can't wait to see his son,
and his son struck out and the guy sitting next
to him say, hey, he's not you, And Griffy looked
at him and said, name five players who were that's
a good one.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
He's a bar.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So when you when you when you think about it,
now you get an appreciation because Peyton took over for Heilton,
who ended up playing baseball, who was a great first
basement for the Colorado Rockets, and he didn't look back.
Eli got in, He didn't look back. I don't think
anybody would call for Peyton or Eli to be replaced.

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And what he's up against is that legacy. That's what
he's up against. And you know, Johnny this, when you
play in the SEC, you might get a legacy scholarship
to go there. You damn sure they gonna get no
legacy scholarship to get your ass on the field, because
they all about winning, and they're gonna put the best
of level on the offense, the best leveled on defense,
and the best leveled on special teams will trot out

(40:24):
there every single time.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Your last name is not gonna save you from them.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Looking in that transfer portal that can somebody that can
bring somebody in and beat you.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Out in the spring.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, that's just the facts of the college football world
we're in.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Now.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
You can go slide a million and a half to
somebody that played at a smaller school but has a
lot of talent, but the opportunity, and you can have
somebody come in in the spring in February and he
can he can play, and he can come in and
beat you out.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
And I don't think that'll be the case.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
But I definitely think if Texas, depending on how their
season goes, they're not going to be except in.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
What what it is right now and what's going on.
And this is not a nock to Arch.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
I think if you look at him overall as a player,
has he struggled, has he hit the things he needed
to hit?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Has he looked like himself? No?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
But does he have the potential and the tools that
he needs? Most likely? But you have to develop and
he's with the coach that I believe is a good
developer of talent. But absolutely you have to you have
to look at it from a team standpoint to Texas
lost a lot of pieces last year that made them
really really good. From a receiver standpoint, from a defensive
Stam Golden running running, Max Stamp like Golden?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
What's the other guy named? They lost? They lost two receivers, right?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I think? So?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Because one was talking about he's gonna run like he
was gonna go break the rector.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Matthew they lost Matthew Golden.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, he agreed that they lost another one too.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I forgot.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Was a bond.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yes, Yes, I've been the transfer from Alabama because he
started at Alabama.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
But but look, I mean Texas has a that is
a lot better shape than they were when you went
through the Charlie Strong years and Mac left and they
couldn't find a quarterback and they really struggled. I mean,
they have had a lot of success in the last
couple of years of getting into the playoff, being close
to where they want to be, and they're just not
playing their best ball right now.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
But it doesn't slow down.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
You got ou this week, you got more games coming up,
like this SEC Gauntlet, depending on what your draw is
throughout the year is tough, man, it is. We were
talking about Bama schedule. We talked about A and M
schedule last week, Like some teams may have it easier
depending on it not being split down the middle and
you playing set teams anymore. Like we don't play Bama

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this year, lucky US normally two years ago. We gotta
go to we gotta play them, we got we gotta
play LSU.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
We play every team in our division.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
So now with it being this way, it really is
luck of the draw and who you play is if
they're good or not.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Johnny, you mentioned talked earlier about DJ lang Way because
we felt that he hadn't been playing up the park.
But he had himself a night tonight, twenty one up,
twenty eight to ninety eight, two touchdowns, had one I
n T.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
They ran the ball thirty seven times for one hundred
and fifty nine yards.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Bond Bond BA had twenty seven for one oh seven
and Wilson had six pot one eleven and two touchdowns.
So they got the balance that they needed to keep
Texas off balance because they was running and Lagway had
to day throwing the football. And this is the kind
of this is what we expected the Lagway at the
start of the season. He was what you know, preseason
he had ARGI manded like okay, obviously with nuss Meyer,

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they thought those are gonna be the guys in the SEC.
But this was the best that he's looked uh and
it might have taken Billy Napier off the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Guys for at.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Least a week or unless Luther vandros you to say,
if only for one night he gets he gets to
sleep easy tonight.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Johnny.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Well, here's the thing I don't like about this is
I can enjoy it and revel in the text this unsuccessfulness.
Next Saturday ten eleven, Florida comes on down to College
Station and that's a nice win for them to build
off of, a confidence builder for Lagway and us. Being

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a six ring team in the country, you know that
you're playing a team that is capable of beating a
top ten team and you're gonna have your hands full.
So one week ago this looked like a game A
and M could check off. Kind of you never want
to just check through it, but it was one that
you feel like you're gonna be confident about winning. And

(44:38):
now you kind of look at it and go, Okay,
we better tighten up because we're getting their best shot
for sure.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Dallas Wilson finished with six catches of buck eleven and
two touchdown. It was the best debut for a freshman
receiver at Florida in program's history.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
And we know some of the receivers.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
That's come out of there the high draft picks that's
come out of the University of Florida. But this young
man had the best debut game in Florida history. But like, yeah,
Naples off the hot seat because boy, hey he lost
this game and now you talk about what in four
Oh he got he gotta get them out of He
got to get up out of that, Johnny. And they

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still got if I'm not mistaken, they still got their
rivalry with Georgia. So oh yeah, you can't. You can't
keep losing all these games and then lose the Georgian
the Georgia Florida.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Rivaly A and M number six.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
They played in Mississippi State, they played Georgia's number twelve,
they played Kentucky and then they go number four old
miss number fifteen, Tennessee number eighteen Florida State to finish
the year.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, it ain't look for boy, it ain't looking good for.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
The home team, Mojo.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
But at least they showed in the locker room. At
least you can go in the locker room and turn
around and look and be like yo, okay, we got it,
like we can. We went out and beating.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Texas team that's ranked Are they as good as we
thought they were whatever, But it's a it's a top
tier SEC team and we got more of them coming up.
So as a Florida locker room, this is a positive
season building.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Thing, right.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
We was talking about Billy Napier and Kaitlin de Boor
being on the hot seat. Jane Franklin said, get y'all
ass off that hot seat. Let me get on there.
And sure enough, last Saturday's lost the organ, They lost
the number two organ. But this oh and fourteen they
had fired their entire staff. I don't know if that
Rick new Heidel sun Jered new Heigel, it is.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
So now it's the first lost Penn State in thirty
four game against the unranked team.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Penn State the.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
First top ten team to lose to ANH and four
team or worst opponent in forty years since Texas Passal
knocked off the defending national champ in nineteen eighty five.
B Yu, it was impossible for a player, A Hey.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
It ain't going to playoffs.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Now you ain't losing that game and going and going
to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Nico, I'm a label being un well. He played today,
he didn't leave today.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
They probably UCL They probably wanted him to go John
if he had lost that game today.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
But he played out standing today.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
He had seventeen to twenty four one point sixty six,
two touchdowns, sixteen rush attempts, one hundred and twenty eight yards,
three touchdowns. He was outstanding. And again, now everybody laughs
at last week when we was talking about James Franklin.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Whoa, but but he did he that?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Okay, Now, now what y'all got. I'm interested to know
what y'all got. The team fired their entire staff. I
don't even know what he got Jerry Neuhausen from I
don't know if he was on the staff or not.
But all I know is that the number seventeen seventeen
in the country, the seventh or eight team in the country,
and you go on the road they bought have not won,

(47:59):
they might have not have won ten games in the
last three years. And they had you that. As a
matter of fact, they had you not in the half
twenty seven seven.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
They had you fave hold on.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
They had they had him favored, they had been stayed
favored him by what twenty four from my mistaken something.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Yeah, UCLA covered plus twenty four and a half and
that's one of those money lines you're looking for all year, like, oh,
that pays well.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I hope that wasn't your suicide pick, because you know
you have a suicide pick. You pick them, but you
can't pick them again, right Blue, Hey, here you are,
Week four and it's gone Drew Allen nineteen and twenty
six two hundred yards, two touchdowns. But he was your
leading rusher eleven carres for seventy eight yards. UCLA ran

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the ball fifty three times two hundred and sixty nine yards.
I can just imagine what that time of possession was
When you run the ball that many times, you probably
had the ball for I go say you had the
ball forty minutes, thirty nine minutes and seventeen second.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Something like that.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Yeah, if you got a team that's able to impose
their will on you and run the ball at will
like that, with that amount of yards and have that
type of time possession, the chances you winning winning a
game is slim to none. Well, when you do get
the ball, you're gonna have the maximum score for score,
and Penn State wasn't able to do that on either
side of the ball. I'm not sure what's going on
especially them to lose to an old four tune like

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that and the moniker that they that we always hear,
especially the NFL, Any given Sunday, Well, hell, any given Saturday,
anything Saturday. And that was the perfect example of that
definition today in what we saw from UCLA.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Now, this is a back to the drawing board, back
to the drawing board for for Penn State.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
This is this is a backbreaker.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
You come out and you play in the game last
week where you will have real opportunity to go and win,
and you feel like, you know what, we let that
one slip, but we can build off it. And then
you come out and you sit in the locker room
at halftime and it's twenty seven and you're looking around,
you're wide eyed, You're like, what's going on? And then
the game ends the way that it does. The UCLA team,

(50:08):
it's been getting laughed at and then it's been really
tough and Nico's taking a lot of slack for what
happened at Tennessee. So when you look at it in
this game, you have to say respect to UCLA for
doing what they needed to do, getting people in there
and coming getting a good win versus the top end
team and Penn State has to be sitting there just
kicking themselves because this is a season ending kind of loss.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Oh yeah, for sure, Penn State only had nine third downs.
UCLA was ten of sixteen. Damn, so they converted more
third downs than then Penn State had got total. You
go ten sixteen, Oh, you're gonna have them all a
long as time.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Tic tic tic tic.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
That's so frustrating.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, because you're hoping, man, let's get the third down,
Let's get.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
The third down.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Then you get your third and seven and they get
your all the air gone.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Come on, D, come on, D. Let's get him off
the field. Come on, we ain't get him off the field.
Get him off the field.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
That was that was you look, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
I'm gonna say. I mean, obviously Johnny wouldn't know better
than me. Coach you you understand how college football works
as far as entities of this magnitude, especially Penn State,
that have a certain standard, uh that they always go
by or bye bye? Does coach Franklin make it through
the season, you think.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
I don't think they're gonna pull up those same stats
we were talking about. I still think they're gonna look
at it as a guy who's built a good program,
a guy that was successful at Vanderbilt. I still think
they look at them as a guy that can get
them more they want to go.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
That's just my opinion of the situation.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
It's one of those things too, you got to go
replace him with somebody who can do what you want
to do.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
And there's not a.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Ton of guys just sitting out there that you can
just go pluck. You are Penn State, which is a
prestigious program, but.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
You are not Alabama. You are not.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
The Ohio State, Ohio State, Oregon, you are not that,
you are not LSU. So you are a good program,
but you can't just come in and buy somebody out
of their contract or this. So if you get rid
of a James Franklin who is a good coach and
a program builder, you don't want to take a step
back and maybe taking a shot on somebody else. So

(52:46):
I would think he'll get a grace year and you'll
have to come back in next year. And if this continues,
then it's something you look at seriously.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
But that's just my opinion of the situation and what
I see.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I agree, I don't I don't think. I don't think
they do anything in the season. This is not a
situation like U C. L a Ohoe because they looked
at that situation like there is no there is no
light on the horizon. We've gone through several years of
this and this just isn't going.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
To cut it. And you started off zero to three.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
This year you lost to a team that you probably
weren't supposed to lose to.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
They're like, nah, we're done.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
We've seen enough, We've seen enough, and they pull the
plug on it. So I'm not I agree, Johnny, I
don't think they do anything now. Maybe next year you
go back it. But who's out there. You're not getting
a coach to leave Sart is not leaving Texas to
go to Penn State. Now, you might get some coordinator
to go to Penn State. But to get a big

(53:45):
time coach to leave a program, nah, nah, You're not
getting Freeman to leave Notre Dame. You're not getting Brian
Kelly to leave LSU Kirby. It ain't leaving Georgia, the
Boys not leaving Alabama. Day is not leaving Ohio State.
The guy Michigan is not leaving Michigan. So Dan Lanning

(54:05):
is definitely not leaving Oregon. So what what what who
you're gonna hire?

Speaker 5 (54:09):
You go, you go, you go, hi hire a creative
up and comer GJ. Kenney type of dude who has
built a good program but is in a smaller school.
Or you go to the Fired Football Coaches Association, that's
what John Gruden calls it, and you go find somebody
who uh who got bought out for ninety million and

(54:30):
try and get him up there in lure Man with
another one hundred and fifty and see how much he
likes to bag.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, that's that's your people talking about lane Kiff. And
I think lane kiffing the only job lane Kiff and
he'll leave it go to Alabama, that's the I think
that's the only job. First of all, if Bama call,
everybody's listening. Yeah, that's the one school that everybody.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
It is. You say, you you the a d for who?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Alabama? The Alabama the elephant that one? Oh okay, yeah
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, how you do it? Yeah, we
just wondered if you're okay, you listen listen. Nick Saban
was at Miami Miami to Dolphins. Alabama calls. He took
that call. He's like, man, you know what, he's a little.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Bit of money. Y'all paying me ain't worth it. They
don't want to listen.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Let me go somewhere, and these kids want to get
to this level, and they'll listen to every and they'll
hang on and listen to every damn word.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
I say, I got a little bit more control.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
And he built a factory down there.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, Johnny, your team text saving them the Aggies number
six aggis thirty one nine over Mississippi State. They remained undefeated,
ended up five yards to carry for the game, nearly
exceeding three hundred yards. They had fifty four carries, two
hundred and ninety nine yards rushing. Jesus well, if you

(55:57):
got that many yards rushing, you got forty minutes on
your hands.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
May maybe a little more.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Thirty eight seventeen so twenty three first down seven to fifteen.
Mississippi State was one of ten on third down. Surprised
to score what more lopsided than that? Four hundred and
seventy nine total yards to two nineteen thirteen to twenty
three For your guy, Marcia Reid didn't asked, He wasn't

(56:25):
asked to do a whole lot, but they got the
job done.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Thirty one to nine.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I don't know how much of this game you saw, Johnny,
but what did you like about what you saw? If
you did watch so much, what did you like about
what you saw? Because I know you're a big Reed fan.
Yeah no, so listen, I watched a little bit of it.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
But I think you look at the last two weeks
for A and M, and you get into SEC play right,
they've given up ten points versus Auburn and nine versus
Mississippi State that is playing very solid fundamental defense, flying,
rallying to the football, not missing tackles, doing the right things.
The cool thing too, for A and M that should
be excited about is when you rush for three hundred yards,

(57:06):
the pressure comes off of Marcel Reid.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
So Marcel Reid can now have.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
A fifty six percent completion percentage, throw a pick, only
throw for one hundred and eighty yards and he only
rushed for thirty. But it's not one of those things
where you're taking five hundred bricks and putting it on
his back. Right, you got a defense that's getting you
back on the field quickly. You got an offensive line
that's helmet to helmet, moving the line of scrimmage, and

(57:34):
you have a running back that's going for over one
hundred yards. It's team complimentary football, yep. And that's what
you want to see. That's the making of a good team,
not where you're lopsided and your offense has to carry
and take over for your defense or whatever it may be.
But for Texas A and M, this is another check
of the box of an SEC win in a game

(57:56):
that normally, if you don't come out and have your
preparation and everything.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Tease crossed as dot.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
And everything, you can lose a game like this. But
I think Elko has the guy's rolling. I think he
has them focused, and I think you have to look
at him and say they are contenders.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
We another check on the box ran in.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Man. I watched an A and M come out that tunnal. Boy,
they will hype boy. They think they had that thing.
That thing was live.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I said, Okay, if y'all might be, y'all might be ready. Well.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
The A and M defense held Mississippi State to under
two hundred and twenty yards of total offense. So when
you can run it for three hundred, hold the opposing
team to under two twenty in a college game with
all the players that they're gonna run. Yeah, this was
This was a thorough domination. I'm surprised that it went by.
Like you said, when you run it, I mean you're

(58:50):
not gonna rush. I mean score a bunch of touchdowns.
Running the football. You will keep your defense off the field,
and when they do get on the field, they can
go hunting because they're fresh. But I thought A and
M played extremely well today. Hey, Johnny, you know what
I wouldn't agree with joh say Man Joey being a homer. Well,
it's all saying doing A and M might be down there.

(59:11):
They they might have something to say. They might be
like the devil going down to Georgia.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
What I said last week, which is exactly this.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
From what we have seen from A and M so far,
if you give it an honest assessment from a full
team football perspective, you have seen the right pieces from
an offensive standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, and from a
special team standpoint. You got a receiving cores that could
be as good as anybody in the country. You got
a ground game that can pop off three hundred in

(59:40):
your face, you gotta when you run the ball like that, Mike,
you said, UNC, your defense is fresh. I want my
dogs on the D line who are going to get
drafted in that first, second, third round, if they're fresh
and sitting on the sideline over there on the cool benches,
having the water and they get to go pin their
ears back for three plays and get off the field.
That is a recipe for success. Though to not jinx

(01:00:03):
my eggies by hyping them up too much because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
We have a history.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
But nevertheless, there's one way to change, and that is
doing something different. And what we're seeing right now so far,
week in and week out, is very impressive.