Nightcap - Hour 1: Knicks Steal Game 3 + Luka in "Championship Shape? - Nightcap

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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watch the New York Knicks stay alive one o six
to one hundred over the Indiana Pacers. They battled back
from twenty points down in the second quarter, they cut
it to thirteen and the half, and then Karl Anthony
Towns got hot in the third quarter and then they
took it over in the fourth quarter as they win
one oh six to one hundred over the Pacers, and
now the series is now Pacers two one.

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while supplies last. As I mentioned earlier, the Knicks come
back from a twenty point deficit, thought they were about
to get run out of the building. They composed themselves,
cut it to thirteen at the half. Then they outscored

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by only outscored them by three in the third quarter,
But in the fourth quarter they took over, outscored them
by sixteen points, gave up thirty six points, something that
Indiana doesn't do a whole lot of. It's give up
a big quarter like that, but the Knicks needed it.
Karl Anthony Towns was sensational twenty four points, fifteen rebounds,
three or three from the three point line, fifth all

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time with twenty ten playoff game for the Knicks. Cat
had as many points in the fourth quarter as the Pacers.
He got going, and when he got it going, it
was no stopping for I meant to say, you got
to going in the fourth quarter, not the third. But
he did hit a few couple of big buckets that
got them going. Josh Hart ten points, eight rebounds, four assists,
his first game coming off the bench because they started

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Mitchell Robinson, they went with a big lineup another twenty
point comeback from the next The Knicks have the most
twenty point comebacks three in a single postseason since nineteen
ninety eight. Jay, I know you watched this game very
very closely, and it looked like the Pacers were in control,
about to take a commanding lead three to zero. Everything
was going inside outside, they were running getting out in transition.

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Obviously that's what they want to do, make or miss,
they want to get out in transition. What did the
Knicks do or what didn't the Pacers do to cause
the outcome to be what it became at the end
of the game. Well, personally, I think it was more
about what the Pacers didn't do. Obviously, Okay, Go Towns
made some big, big shots on the fourth wed. I
just it just seemed like, you know, towards the end

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of the second quarter, they took the foot off the
gas and then came out in the second half and
they didn't have the same energy.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, you look at the look at the game.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
The building wasn't even as ignited as it was in
the first half because the energy was low. So you know,
the thing that I look at when I look at
this game, is where's the what is the best players doing?
You know, Tarese Halibert, he has to take over the
games right when you see your team struggling and you
see it, you know the offense isn't flowing as well.
I think he tends to take the back seat a

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little too much and and like that. So he has
to he has to do a better job on saying, hey,
this is my team.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know we need it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We need a moment here. And I got to be
the reason why. And I thought that didn't happen today.
He had I think he made a shot or two. Uh,
but for the most part, you know, the energy was
low and they didn't compete.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know when you know the Knicks did in the fourth.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I agree with you sometimes I do believe that Haley
gets he's not as aggressive as I need him to be. Now,
he only had six assists. That's because the guys couldn't
buy back. I mean, you look at the shot Pascal,
he was fifty percent from the floor, so was Miles Turner.
But you look at Nie Smith. He was two of eight,
one for three from the three point line. Miles Turner

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was six or twelve from the floor, but he's one
for six from the three. Nim Hard was all three
from the three, Hadley was two or six from the three.
And so when you go five or twenty five from
the three point line, that's that's a recipe for a disaster.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And when the team gets it going. Hopefully we can get.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Some of this in the Western Conference and all of
them won't be blowout twenty points and forty point blowouts.
But I thought the Knicks that second quarter, the end
of the second quarter, that last three minutes Jermaine, I
thought that was big for them because they could have
went the other way. Instead of being down thirteen, they
could have been down thirty three. And now maybe we're
having a different discussion, but give those guys credit. You're
on the road, you're in a hostile environment, you've already

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lost two home games. They banded together, they believed in themselves,
and they made plays when they absolutely had to make plays.
And you know, Johs jyl Bruns is gonna have his
hand all over He's gonna find a way to get
to the free throw line. That's just the way he is.
And I would have wish say that they probably should
have employed the hacker Robinson earlier. You know, hey, I

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filed him once I see the momentum start to slip it. Yeah,
oh no, you got to go to the free throw
line and make those shots. Oh, Joe, you're watching this
game and you see the Knicks come back from twenty
points down, yeah, and win this ball game.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
What did you like about the knicks resilience on the road? Listen?
I like the fact that they kept fighting. Huh. I
like the fact that they kept fighting.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Jay, they need to find a way to stop being
down by twenty, stop making the game that much more
difficult for you. I don't understand how a why the
way the Pacers played the first two games, right?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Why not do what you did tonight?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
The previous two games you played before, for when you
were playing at home, you had the event, you had
the advantage. Now you play a much better game. Even
though you're down about twenty, you play a much better game.
And you're playing away in a hostile environment. And then
I think the keys of the game also was when
you not on you're down by twenty, but to be
able to come back into the game. Were they able
to do the last what five or six minutes of

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the fourth quarter. Halle Burdon missed a step back the
sequence where it was a sequence where I think it
was maybe three minutes and sixteen seconds on o'clock where
the goddamn the Pacers they had nothing but six points
with multiple this is at that and I think it
was there.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It was.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
It was in that matter and that fact, in that
instance in general, where the Nicks took advantage that god
damn Jalen Brunton, Hey, yunkie, something nice.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
People might go get to that pren throw Labe.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
He might struggle from the floor, but he's gonna find
a way jail the slow getting.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It the fre throw live. Well, it was. It was
a key.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It was a key moment in this game. You know,
let's put aside what the Pacers didn't do and lean
more on what the Knicks did. And it started to
meet from the coaching side. Right, you go back to
game one, the Knicks went on the run, they were
up seventeen.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Thibodeau makes a sub.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right, sometimes when the team's rolling, the very best player
that don't necessarily have to be a part of that,
because something you can sub and stopped.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
The floor of the game.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Right, you fast forward to tonight right where the group
that he had in there, they actually did a really
good job on cutting it and he stretched that group out.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So he did they cut it to I thing three
of you know, possibly even two.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And then when he needed to bring him, I think
he brought Brusting back like two minutes and twenty yards
ago in the game. So I thought the coaching part
of it was a lot better tonight when it comes
to this chess game, you know, which we see in
the playoffs. And plus give to of credit, he went
with a big lineup tonight. He started Mitchell Robinson, he

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went with kat because Mitchell Robinson gave them extra possessions
and so that's what we need. We need more than
one possession. And so you know what, say Mitch, We're
gonna lean on you tonight. We're gonna play twenty nine minutes.
He played twenty nine minutes. I thought he was insational,
brought Josh Hart off the bench, and I thought, you look,
when you get it rolling like that, it's hard to
break up momentum like that. Because if you look at

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the second quarter, he let Harlow let go. Those were
not his regular guys in there. He let them go yeah,
And and I thought the Knicks took advantage of that.
They ended up Claria back and getting it down to thirteen.
I thought McBride came in and made a couple of
big shots. He had a big time three, he had
a big time pull up. He's doing a little thing.

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He's a better He's a very good defender if you
look at it, O Joe, We've been talking about this.
They normally play seven guys. They played nine tonight nine
to night. Andrew Shammick got eleven minutes, Darrell Wright got
thirteen minutes. Josh Hart played you know, he normally played
a little more minutes, but he came up the bitch.
He played thirty four, and McBride gave you fifteen.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Hey, Jo, And you say, you say Halle Burton, especially
in I call it precious situations. You know, at the
end of that game, you say, Halle Burton should take over.
But if you look at what the Knicks were doing,
the hell the Knicks was doubling Halliburton on all highs
threess and forcing the ball really out his hands and
leaving the owners of someone else on that team to
have to have to shoot or get that point. From

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somewhere else, and they wasn't hitting.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sea burn the ball over. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't.
I mean, the office didn't flow very well. So I
agree with you they did.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
And again, it's a chess match right now, right, you know,
they're going back and forth. They're trying to take the
ball out of certain people's hands. The thing the difference
that I saw the night early in the game, I
think the first half the Pacers bench I'll scored the
k next bench I think twenty two to seven. And
the third half the Knicks was a plus I think
fifteen or sixteen. So the Florida game was a lot

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different for the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Early.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I thought the Pacers got a lot statinated, you know,
in the second half and and oho, to go back
to what you was saying, what makes Halliburton really really
good is when they're moving that ball, swinging that ball,
catch him he catching the ball, you know, on the
last live pass and he's going downhill. Well, the second
half they got the second half, it was super stagnated.
They got bumped up against the shot clock a lot,

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and the ball didn't necessarily end up in the right
people's hand at the right time. Yeah, I thought he
held onto the ball. The ball stuck a little bit,
a little bit too long in his hands to Night Jail.
I like with Halliburton, when they're getting make or miss,
getting the ball off the rim and they're pushing tempo,
that's when they're at their absolute best. And it doesn't
matter if Halley has it, if nim Hard, Niece Smith,
it does not matter who had matthn It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're looking to push tempo.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's when they're at at the best, is when they're
getting up and down. I thought Haley did a little
bit too much gribbling to Night. I thought he was
you know, he wasn't like I'm going to go to
the basket. Now, let me back it out again. And
now he's getting off the ball at ten at ten seconds. Now,
Hey don't know about it, because it's really when you
really look at it, who's really looking to take somebody
off the bounce see Ockham. Everything else is really set

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up by Halliburton doing a great job of getting penetration.
They played a lot of picking roll, you know, like
getting the high pick and roll with Myles Turner. He
can he can roll to the basket, or he can
hit the picking pop. But I thought the night I
thought Hallley might have held onto the ball just a
tad too much. But he had some guys that had
some good looks at the basket tonight, Jail. They just
didn't go down for twenty five is not knw well off. Clearly,

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that's not good enough when you're shooting twenty percent from
the floor from the three point line. But when you
play it, when you got to win this game, you're
at home. You juste stole two games on the road.
You got to win the first game back, jail. And
it happened to them against Cleveland. Remember Cleveland did the
same thing to them. They take the first two games
in Cleveland. They come in there to get them, but Cleveland,
really Cleveland took the game from the from the tip

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and I look at this gap and say, damn man,
the Pacers about to go up three oh, only Knicks
about to go up three oh. And then I'm like, hey,
y'all getting real sloppy with this basketball. Now there's still
two and a half quarters to go. Now, I let
hey don't let this thing slip away. And then they
cut it right. They cut it right before the half.
They got it down to thirteen, and they and I
think the Knicks would think it. We got it manageable. Now,

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we got it manageable. If we come out Oh Joe,
we come out here two threes. Hey, this thing under
ten and we was down twenty just five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hey, they they got Hey, they got to find a
way to stop being down in such a deficit, having
to crawl back and fight back from twenty. I understand
the game of basketball. It's all about it's a game
of runs. But like, make it easy on yourself. Don't
make every game where Okay, Now, we got to do
everything we got to be. You got to be damn
near perfect and hope the momentum shifts in your favor.

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Outside of that, I mean, listen, the Knicks bench played
really well.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was ugly. It was ugly, Josh McBride, Robinson, Listen.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
They weren't they weren't flashy, but they outplayed Indiana second unit.
And they can have another game like that when they
play again on Tuesday, not Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. Listen, then
they can have another game like that, especially the bench.
We know what, we know what the starters are gonna do.
They have another game like this, entire this series up,
it can become interesting again because if they had lost

(13:45):
a nice game, I really think it was over. I
really think the series was over.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh it was over. It was definitely, it was definitely
over jail if they had lost this game, I think
the thing was I'm struggling as as as a as
a former player when I look at these playoffs and
you see the live you know, throughout the season, time
and possession is not a thing anymore in the NBA, no, right,
especially in the in the playoffs where everything comes down.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
To possessions, right, I'm wanting more and more.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Threes be launched, and it almost creates bad three bad threes.
It created rhythm for other teams getting it and they're gone.
And that's the thing why I'm struggling with a little bit.
I mean, you go back to the first game the Knicks,
and again, I'm happy that you know that we are,
you know, two to one, But when you look at
that game, you know, fourteen with two minutes, and I

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think at the time it was forty fifty seven seconds.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
When you think about this, all you do is get
four or five stops, and hell, you can get four
or five shot clock violations, right, and you win the game.
But I look at tonight where it's like every time
it's like somebody it was some sort of rhythm is happening.
A three are bad three? Go up right, or just
bad possession. And that's the part where I'm struggling with
a little bit right now, considering that this is just

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is go to the NBA finals, right, You're in the
conference finals, so you should have some sort of understanding
on how you know to win the game in the
understanding too of how to lose the game as well. Yeah,
I think we see a lot of that jail. I
think sometimes guys get called little. I'm gonna be the
guy that break the rhythm. I'm gonna be the guy
to get to hit the big shot that quelled their
run or push us to If we're up five, we're
gonna go up if we're up seven, we're gonna go

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up ten. I'm gonna be the guy that puss the
you know that says, Okay, he hit that big shot. Well,
it was a big shot in the corner that such
and such hit. But what you do is that you
allowed them, like you said, you allowed them to get
a rhythm. You allowed them to get a run out
on you, right, and now all of a sudden, you're like, bro,
and I'm sure in a situation like that, Jail, you're
not telling a man don't take that shot. He's like, Hey,

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let's just be patient, let's slow this thing down. But
I think the thing is for the Pacers. Look, it's
one game, you said to Jail, they're still up to one,
and we got another game in our building. Now you've
given the next life. The Knicks believe that they can
beat your ass in your building because they just came
back from twenty down, so they believe not anything close
going into the fourth corner.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
They got You got that, man. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't know who feels good about what I mean.
Obviously the Knicks has some struggles at home, and now
the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You know they had.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
When you think about the game, Karl, Anthony, Towns and
and Brunston did come, they were in found trump. The
didn't have a great first half at all, and yes
they walk away with a win right when that game
should have been a twenty plus point.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Drumming of the of the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
But they found a way to stay in the game,
or the Pacers found a way to kid him in
the game. And you look at the Pacers, Oh, Joe,
we talked about this all the time your committee. And
normally they have six guys in double figures. They had
four guys in double figures tonight. Nick Smith two of eight,

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he only had eight points. You had them hard. He
was two of nine or three he had nine points.
Those guys normally get you thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, That's how.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
They normally played.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Halliburton had two in Siakam and look that was the
playoff career high to get in Game two, which he
had thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
He was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not expecting them to have a whole bunch of
thirty point playoff games.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's just not the type of offensive player that he is.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
He's a good player, but I'm not looking for him
to go off like he went off in Game two.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Again.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't know about you, Jail. I thought TJ. McConnell
was sensational. Maybe you might need to buck those fifteen
minutes up and give him twenty minutes, because hey, he battles,
he pushes pace, he makes big time shots, he's a hustle.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I love the way he played.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
But they're kicking themselves, just like the Knicks kicked themselves
the first game, because they're like, man, we had Bruston
go off for forty three, we had Cat go off
for thirty six, and we lose. So now they're feeling
good about themselves. They say, hold on Jalen Brust only
played thirty one minutes. Cat only played thirty three minutes.
Six of eighteen for Brunson. One of five Cat was

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three or seven, eight or seventeen. They had forty seven
points in the game. They had damn near eighty points.
They lose the game. They had forty seven and was
the five trow but they win. So they're gonna take
great consolation in this all being on the road. Like, look, guys,
there ain't no We saw him do it twice to
Boston in the Garden down twenty. We saw him be
down at home in game three, no game with the

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game four and come back and win the game and then.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Go close it out.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I still like the Pacers if I if I'm into
these teams, I like being up to one. I don't
give a damn hot good I played the last game
that other team is still has to one different.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Up on us and we still got another game in
their building.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, now I'm with you on the McConnell deal, right,
I think you know, he had ten first half points
and I think he I thought he had a really
good flow to the game early and then the second
half he didn't see as much of him. Right, you know,
he was in there, but it wasn't the same of
an impact that. I don't know if because of the
time or just a prhythm of the game, but I
think he can be a very important component.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But here's my question to both.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of you guys, is when the patients get in the
funk offency like they did tonight, if Pascal come isn't
the guy that you go for, they can go for
thirty every night. And uh, Terrece Halliburton isn't a guy
that can be aggressive all the time than who you
go to m that. But see, that's the thing when

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you when you look when you look at this, they
kind of remind me of the Rockets, but a little
bit more seasoned, because who is the guy that you
really want you to check the last shot? Now we've
seen Halliburton hit some big shots, but you said, okay,
we're gonna get this ball? Are we gonna give this
ball to Pascal Siakam and let him go get us
a basket? That's that's not what he is. He's a

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really good player. He is, and I don't want to
try to diminish him here, but I'm not looking at
him a guy that's gonna consistently like you know what
we need twenty five at night.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's not what he is.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Right And then Dale Jail, think about think about what
you just asked. Right, is Pascal Siakam he's struggling late
in the game, they doubling, They doubling Halliburg forcing them
to kick the ball out. Do does everyone else? Do
the other three players have the green light to be
able to shoot at will when they want to impress
the situations, especially down in that fourth quarter when obviously

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who you want, who you want the ball in their hands,
they can't get it done. Do they have the green
light to shoot that will?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So? I think they do. I think that's what makes
the Pacers really good is the death.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
When you look at the game that they won really
both games, but then took with game one.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think they have seven guys in double figures that
they have four.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
They have four tonight, right, they're gonna those others, you know,
like Shack always says, the others, They're gonna have to
really step up and free Halliburton. Halliburn's about to be aggressive,
start to finish you know four. He cannot be passive.
He cannot allow double you know, to you know, to
take them out of the game. I mean, hell, the
Pacers were doubling Brunston in the first two games, and

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Christian first game he had forty forty three, So he's
not on the way, uh to really you know, stay
you know, fight down and stay focused and stay you know, stayed,
you know, greedy when it comes to, you know, making
sure he's impacting the game, and then the rest of
the guys are falling too place. But I just felt
like tonight they just got a little too tight, you know,
when the game was, you know, when the game was,
you know was when when they went on, when the
next one on, they running. They're gonna have to get

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away from that and realize that they are at home.
The energy is behind him and that should be to
carry him. Yeah, me, Smith, he's gonna give you eight,
and he's been playing really wellnim Har has been playing really.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well ye eight nine.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I thought matt Rick just didn't have it tonight, and
it shows in the amount of minutes that he played.
I think he thought he came in, he got a
couple of files, picked up a couple of files early. Uh,
and Carl out didn't have the confidence and to leave
him in the ball game and he ended up going out. Uh.
They brought Shepherd there. He had a big three. He's
mainly a defensive guy that can knock down threes. I
have given the opportunity, but you look at you look

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at this team. In order for them to win, they're
gonna have to have five six guys in double figures.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's how they've been all year. Jail.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
This is I mean, I mean they'll probably look at this,
damn we only have four guys. We are they're one
of the few teams that have five guys in double
figures in the entire playoffs. And then mccallus. You know,
mccallaugh can get you ten because he'll hear the big three.
He'll get a couple of steals, get and one or something,
get the crowd going. But I thought those others, Nie

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Smith and them Hard Mathren got Obie topping Obie normally.
You know, he missed an easy one right there, you know,
missed the put back.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
He'll be better.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think those guys, and I think if the guys
that they're counting on the role players that Nie Smith
and them Hard Mathron Obie, I think if they give
you what they normally gave you throughout the entirety of
the playoffs thus far, especially the first two games against
the Knicks, I think they'll be fine. Twenty point comeback
playoff wins in twenty twenty five, we already have six,
and the last four postseasons combined, we've only had five.

(22:52):
That's crazy, and we've seen three into what the last
the last seven games, I mean, we saw Boston, we
saw Boston give up to twenty point leads, and we
just saw another one tonight.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I guess the question also comes down to the Pacers bench.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Was was was there wasn't the normal self tonight?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Typically they are the ones that they're gonna they're gonna
come in and every every night it's gonna be somebody
to step up.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
The Knicks bench hasn't been impactful the series, but they
were impactful tonight. The biggest question is can the Knicks
bench come back again in Game four?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Because I expect the Pacers to come back and be
their normal self because Rick Carlisle is a hell of
a coach, had a twin they played with him in Indiana.
He's a huge adjustment coach. I mean, one of the
smartest coaches I've ever been around. So I know he's
gonna have those boys ready to go. But then when
it comes down to the you know, you know, to
the game itself, which which bench is going to carry
their team? And if I had to put my money

(23:52):
on it, and this is not me being a Homer,
I'm gonna go with the Pacers because they've done it
all year.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Right. When you when you're when you're down in jail,
you played, you played fifteen plus years. When you're down,
is there a number that you don't feel that you
can't come back from? And I know it's different than
when you first got to the league because there wasn't
a whole lot of twenty point comebacks because teams weren't
shooting the three like they shoot it now. A twenty

(24:17):
point lead in the first quarter, second quarter, even midway
through the third quarter ain't ish because guys can hit.
They can get on the road and hit two or
three threes and a layup.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
And what was a twenty point lead now as all
of a sudden the ten or eight point lead, and
so it's a lot different now. But was there ever
a number that you take your team got down and
you're like, well, damn, yep, we got to get ready
for tomorrow. Now it's a fifteen to eighteen it was.
It was tough to come back back then. You know,
that was almost like death, right if you're down at
fifteen eighteen points, because you know we were gonna it's

(24:49):
the ties is turnal lot, right? You got offensive flow
analytics is to me, it's getting people, getting people fired.
I'm a pack right, you know this analytic thing is
going crazy. Bro got them to take your bad threes
instead of good twos, good toos. Right, But I mean
you look at our MVP ASGA. He's a mid range killer, right,
he's taking these those tools. But but to answer your question,

(25:10):
I don't eighteen to twenty points in the playoff game. Yeah,
you gotta get ready for the next game because you
ain't coming back from that. Because most teams won't allow
you to because it was a defensive mind that you know,
the mindset you know from the start, right, So how
many times we can stop you?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Now, how many times we can shoot you? Right?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I think that's what's happening in the NBA right now.
You have these huge swings. But you know it was
no way in hell, you know, you know if we
playing somebody, or or the Pistons or in New Jersey
had j Kidd and you know all of the good
defensive teams, they were never gonna allow you to come back.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
But now I guess in two minutes you could score.
You can score twenty to twenty five and two minutes.
And the problem is also jail, is that teams take
bad quick shots. I mean, all of a sudden, you
see a team going a ten o run in under
a minute, like hell, hey, hey, I'm just gonna hold
the ball, Jay, I'm just gonna hold the ball. Let

(26:04):
the shot clock run down. I'm gonna give it the ball.
I'm gonna let the shot cut run down twice. I'm
gonna get I will get past.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
A men, listen.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And the craziest thing that I as a just a
life frin basketball, wing threes and corner threes create fast breaks,
and yes, they're out off and roll over and over.
You see the same thing, and unbalanced defensive floor. So
I'm not even sure exactly what they are what they're teaching,
you know, in the NBA right now from perspective of
those things. But then you know, they tell them that's

(26:33):
the short port, that short, that short, that corner three,
that's the short three of jail.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But what happened with that? That charm, that long careme?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And next thing, you know, the guy hey in two dribbles,
he already got somebody at the rim yep, And you're like,
and they keep getting and I understand the next tonight
there's like, y'all not hit them, so we'll give them
to you. Y'all not making them right. So five of
twenty five, and they had some good looks. It wasn't
like they were shooting a lot of contested threes, but
some of them were quick. It's a look I understand

(27:02):
who to stay wide open. Yeah, there's a reason why
you wide open. And it's only twenty four and only
twenty seconds that's going off the clock. Hey, excuse only
four seconds going up to the clock, take it down
a little bit more if and I understand.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Look, the paces are flow team jail.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
They love to run there at their absolute best, and
they're very few teams that can keep that pace up
with them. Because if you look at who they who
the guys they got Nie Smith, nim Hard Mathburn, they're
kind of interchangeable. They're kind of like the same guy,
same about the same height and can get up and
down and play.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
McConnell comes in.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Look, now he's not Halliburton, but he can do a
great job of orchestraty offense. He's a bulldog, he can
make tough shots.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
He's genation's on deepense, little undersized, but he plays hard.
And when you got guys like that, you don't give
up a whole lot because you're not asking a guy
you don't see them, I mean them leadings score on
who's that leads go propace of siaka what nineteen? So
they have probably got another guy with seventeen, another guy
was fifteen, THEO got fifteen, fourteen, twelve. You're not going
to have the disparity when you got a guy average

(28:05):
twenty eight and then the next guy closed the to him,
he is averaging fifteen.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Hey, hey, Jao, you you mentioned some of the some
of the the adjustments that that coach Carlisle could make.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You know how smart he is.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
So obviously I'm thinking about on the other end, with
what Tim doing something that he normally doesn't do. Normally
he plays seven, but tonight he played nine. What adjustments
I know you your patients, guy, what adjustment you think
Tims can make to ensure that this game or this
series evens itself up next time they play on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, we all know that, you know, no matter who
we are, you know, on that professional roster, when the
coach shows trust, you know, we feel confident, don't feel
sped up, we don't feel tight. I thought Tims did
a hell of a job on showing confidence in his bench,
and he kept coming back to it. I thought the
previous two games he relied too much on Brunson Towns

(28:54):
right in the stuff. There was no side to side,
and with Brunston being sixty's one, right, he know they
trapping him.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Every shot is hard.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I think that Tibbs has to stay with what worked
this game, with a understanding that you know, he may
have to make it, you know, some end game adjustments.
But I thought, I thought tonight he was good at
from that perspective. And again I was sitting there talking
to my business manager, you know, watching this game. I
didn't know who won the battle because it was a
tail of two different halves right where I just felt ye.
In the first half, the Pacers looked like the Pacers

(29:25):
all side to side. They didn't want good shots, they
wanted great shots. Then the second half, right it was stagnated,
you know, bumped up against the shot clock. Nick's first
half stagnated. Every shot was tough. Every If you go
back and look at the game, they were even running
the Pacers had them running their hair, their half court offense.
Then they're at the half court line. They had him

(29:47):
bumped up against the half court line. And then the
second half they got what they wanted called Anthony Towns
for the life of God, that boy should start on
the box and then move his way out.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
And you would say, you were preaching that for the
longest for years.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I don't know why he shoots all these crazy threes,
because he does have some work down low. He does. Oh,
he's skilled. Yeah, but I thought I thought the Knicks defense.
There are a couple of times that the Pacers got
in transition, and the nixt transition defense was sensational, blocked

(30:24):
them out. Hey, no you didn't getting here make him
pass out. They come back again, said, nope, nope, not
doing it again. But I tell you what, when they
take Carl laugh any times out, they got to do
a better job of getting on the boards because Mitchell
Robinson's giving him too many opportunities, second chance points.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
And that's what he's in there for.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
He's in there to challenge if you get to it,
if you beat your guy, he's going to challenge you
at the rim. But he also wants to give brunts
and he wants to give those other guys second chance opportunities.
And so they're gonna have to do a better job
of keeping him off the glass. And I think if
they could do and plus also Josh Hart, remember Josh
Hart the other night, Oh Joe, he only had like
five rebounds.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
He had ten tonight and he had that in the
reserve role. So you see he got better.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Nim Hard and and and and and the other guy
at and Nee Smith.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
They didn't do what they did in the first two games.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So one guy got better, the other two kind of
kind of slid back a little bit, and I think
that was the difference in the ball game.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
He gave.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
He gave you a great production eight points, twelve, ten
rebounds for fists steel and only had one turnover.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Because he's the Swiss Army Knife. He's the guy that's
gonna do it all.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
He's gonna take a charge, he gonna give your second
chance point, hes gonna get your second chance opportunities. He's
gonna facilitate a he could. He's a great pass of
the basketball, and hey, he can, and he can. He's
a good defender. I thought he I thought his presidence
the night was really really good. But you're gonna have
to do a job of keeping Mitchell Robinson off the glass.
Too many. He gave the Knicks too many opportunities. I mean,

(31:50):
he had three offensive rebounds. Josh Hart had three offensive rebounds.
That's too many. Miles Miles Bridges had too. You gotta
kee him up the glass, got to. I tell you
this the X factor for me going into Game four.
He hadn't played well at all this this round.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But Benedicte mather.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yep, he's been big for them all year and he's
really really struggled. I need to reach out to my
young boy and just he just need to just relax
and play the game.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
He knows how to play, but he hadn't been great
for him.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
If he comes out and he plays the way he's
capable of playing where he played this season, it will
be difficult right to try to double Haliburton or anybody else.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right, I think you know he's an X factor for me?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, I thought I thought I didn't think Siaka was
aggressive enough to night. Remember the other night he had
what twenty three shot at temph to night he had fourteen,
Myles Turnatives had twelve.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Halliburton has fifteen. Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Come on, now, if you just had a thirty nine
point game and you cool with taking fourteen shots, ill, No,
I'm trying to get me another thirty nine point game.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm going to the rack.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Hey, young Hey, do you think the players know? Do
you think someone keeps tracking how many shots they taking? Joe,
did you keep tracking how many balls?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You call it? You're talking the ball? You go to the
lab game? Hold on, now about football and basketball is
kind of different. Do you do.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Do you really know on the court jail how many
shots you've taken in the game? Do they do coaches
let you know you just have free will?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Jorge? Yeah, yeah, you you definitely know.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You can know because on the sideline almost every time
out they have scores, you know, score sheet where you
can go look at, you know, the stat sheet on
what you know, what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Typically you might ask a coach, hey, man, you know
what so long? How many shots to take? It?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Especially especially if you're struggling a little bit right right,
you're gonna ask that question. Because now they got thirty
seven coaches on the roster. You know, if you look
behind the bench, somebody has everybody but you do. You
are you are aware on how many shots you've taken
and what your stats are because you know, you always
got that one one of the two coaches that's telling you
know what's going on in the game because they want

(33:55):
you to be aggressive. He needs to be aggressive. And
like I said, and you see what when he's aggressive.
The guys that are aggressive that need to be aggressive
Siakam and Halliburt, they're supposed to be your two best players,
where your two best players need to play like your
two best players, and they should never have to be
in a feel like they're in a reserve role. Sometimes
I feel like Halliburt feel like like he's a role player,

(34:16):
like he a bench player. Noah, Bro, you're an all star.
Wouldn't you have to you as a gold medal? Be
like that?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Be him?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Be him. You just dropped thirty nine. Bro, you just
dropped thirty nine. Took twenty three shots to get it,
and you cool with taking fourteen? Noh, bro, gon try
to get that back. Be aggressive because he was aggressive
in game two. I'm telling extremely aggressive. I guess the
question is you know when you when you're the away team,
you expected, right, you expect this to viciousness, to people

(34:47):
talking about your mama, your kids. You expect that when
you walk into you know, you know, to arena. When
you come home. You almost try to be too perfect, yes, right,
try to on yourself with being perfect and doing everything
right because you don't want to let your home crowd down.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
And it looks that way.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's why tonight I thought the Pacers were a little
too tight. You know, when things got tight, you know,
when the game got tight, you know, people wanted to
rely on somebody else to do it, versus they overpassed
the ball. Jail, I was looking at bro. Stop shooting
the ball, YEP, wouldn't shoot it, everybody. I want to
make that man. I want to make sure. I want
to make the right play. No, Bro, shoot the ball,

(35:28):
shoot it, shoot it. You don't have to be perfect.
Ain't nobody gonna call you selfish. Nobody looks at the
Pacers and think this is a selfish ball club because
we have too many guys that scoring double figures. So
you can't have that many guys scoring in double figures
and be a selfish ball club. We don't think you're
a selfish ball club. But you don't have to be perfect.
You don't have to be perfect to win. And I

(35:49):
just thought tonight, I thought, sometimes they overpassed the ball
and it ended up turning it over.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Hold On, you call it overpassing. What happened to not
being in rhythm? What happened not being in common, not
having the confidence shoot the ball at that specific time?
Based on the circum sands of the game at the time.
You said, well, all their players most of the time
are in double figures. All Yeah, those players are also
in rhythm. Also, those players are also a little bit
more efficient from the field than they were tonight, so

(36:15):
there's a little bit more comfortability with taking those shots
as opposed to overpass the night.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know what, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
In rhythm right now, based on the game and the
circumstance that we're in right now, I don't want to
take that shot from somebody else.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, you can't feel like that the ball gonna find you.
You ever noticed you ever noticed how they put infield
outfielder in the field or infield in baseball, throw the ball,
find it, the ball getting hit right to them, somebody
getting it. We need a spere receiver, everybody cover somehohow
the ball got to find hire or the dB when
they put a D corner in the game, the spot
whatever he is, What what do ball do? The ball

(36:49):
gonna find you every time. So if you if you're
not if you're not confident, somehow the ball won't find.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
That goes back to what this more of a question
for both of you guys. Are you Are you more.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Comfortable at home or the villain on the road or
I like I like I like being the villain on
the road. I like you, I like kay I, I
operate very well in a chaotic environment.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I'm comfortable being uncomfortable. It's weird. Yep, no I play.
I played. I think I played my best at home.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I just wanted to be I just want to be
able to hear the snapcount because I'm trying to get
down to feel as fast as I can. And if
you notice, and when they when when in track meets,
when they say runners to their mark, everything.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Is hushed talking for everybody here. Hit the gun. I
need to hear a gun.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I need to hear that hunt and and ball up
out of there. Let me know what you think about this,
jail Jeff t says Jaylen Bronson holding the ball for
most of the shot clock is the reason why New
York initially went down two against the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know how the Knicks lose these games.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
The shot clock is twenty four, Jayalen brunther it hold
the ball for seventeen of them.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
They don't get no rhythm. You agree or disagree?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I agree, I agree, And that's what I thought happening,
especially the first game when he came back in when
they were up. You know, I think you're up seventeen.
He came back in and the rhythm they just looked
out of swords. When you talk, you're talking about two
teams and the top seven and top eight defensively in
the NBA, right, And so both can guard and the
Pacers they're physical, they switch every day, and they have size.

(38:28):
And with Brunston at six foot one, is as good
as he is with the ball. It's crafty, you know,
one of the best guards in the league. In the
playoff scenario, I think it makes it tough when he
has the ball in his hand and the majority of
the time he's dribling, dribbling, dribbling, and you get bumped
up against the shot clot all of a sudden, the
ball find somebody else with two seconds, you know, two

(38:48):
seconds of going the shot clock. That's not a great
rhythm for two Nottins that are really good defensively, and
really both of them are top the top seven offensively
as well. Right, So if he can be top seven
off defensively, doesn't mean the ball moves around. And I
thought tonight it was almost a mere image of a
really good offensive team because in the second half the
Knicks were able to move the ball around and people

(39:10):
are able to hurt, you know, hurt you you know
doing that. And I thought called Anthony Towns his best
even though he's some big threes. Look at how many
times he got to the basket, right, That opens up
his three ball because now he's attacking the basket. Now
people can't stay in front of him.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
So I mean to based on what jef T said,
Jail you can probably you know, correct me if I'm wrong.
Is there a way that Jen and Brusson can operate
the offense and getting the ball and be quick and
getting everything set up, be quick, but not in a
hurry as I feel like you rushing things.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well, I think you got to.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I think walking the ball down, you know, put him
up against the clock from the start, right, I think
getting the ball out, you know on in particular, missus,
you know, let's get the ball up the court. Nothing's there, boom,
let's get into our offense. Let's get let's get a
really good shot based off our offense. A lot of
times when they get if you want, I want you
guys watched this of the next you know, hopefully the
Cippies doesn't go too many more games. So why so

(40:10):
many times they walk the ball up against. It's hard
to walk the ball up against really good defensive teams,
right because they're set and they're waiting and they're trying
to take everything away. And I just think that, you know,
with him, with his size and how crafty is he has,
he has to put his stself in a better position
into the shot clock a little bit earlier. Man, I'm
looking at this jail. I don't know if you saw

(40:31):
these stats, but Nicks only had thirteen of cis. Bridges
had one, Og had two, Cat had one, Robinson had one,
Bronson had one, McBride had none, Hart had four, Right
had one.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Shamman had two.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
You scored one hundred plus points and you got thirteen
of cists.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
That is crazy. And I'm looking at that.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I even I didn't know that thirteen and you got
one hundred points. I think you're gonna have thirteen to sais,
You're gonna have probably about seventy five eighty. There's a
lot of catching the holding and that's the dom Yeah,
exactly it. See if that's the same, and sometimes you
know you're getting put backs, you letting the team get
second chance points on you. Nobody creates an assists for you.

(41:14):
That's just you doing the ball, and so it's gonna
be interesting to see. I'm axious to see the adjustments.
We saw the adjustments that the Knicks made. The adjustment
was insert Mitchell Robinson, get the ball out of Halley's hand.
Let's see if somebody else can create office for this team. Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Leading assists guy was Halle. They had a couple of
guys with three.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
McConnell had three, mem Hardy had three, Turner had three.
Neie Smiths played twenty six minutes. Bro, you gotta give us,
you gotta give us a call on that zero assists. Fascal,
I need about four or five assists from you. Yeah,
because you'd have guy, because you just scored thirty nine.
They make them come help you make them come, doube
See you're not aggressive.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
They like and I know. Look, og Is is a
very good defending.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
He got the best of o g Yeah game two,
og held his own Game three, og Ga sixteen. So
they basically played to a stand still. But Pascal's minus
twenty one. He's minus twenty one. You had the lowest
plus minus of anybody that text.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The court, well to.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I guess, I guess the magical word for this series
is sustainability. Right, Can you sustain what you did in
the first half and bring it to the second half
and be better, right, or at least, you know, keep
it at the same level. It seems like in this
series as it's a changing of the guards when it

(42:35):
comes to how they're performing from half to halts.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
And so I think that you know, you know, the
way the Pacers had it rocking in the first half
of tonight, if they can take that same energy and
bring it, you know, to the second half, they run
away with this game probably by thirty Yeah, and yeah,
you can say that to you know, you can say that.
I mean, even though the Pacers shot the lights out
of it, you know, the first game. But it's just

(43:02):
it's just it's just strange, man, Like these these these
big swings and in the playoffs right where you know,
it's not you're playing the same team, right, it's not like, right,
you got to redo the you know, Scott report.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But I guess it's it's kind of the new era
when it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
You know, it depends on who's gonna get hot, who's
gonna be aggressive, who wants to impact the game, who
doesn't want to impact the game.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Who feels good, who doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's a lot of scenarios that it's coming into play Man,
which is, you know, which is unusual for something, you know,
just late in the season. Yeah, and I go back
to a jail and I want to and I think
this is what happened, is that when they got that
twenty point lead, I thought they was gonna close it
out and probably keep it at twenty, maybe even get
push it somewhere around thirty, right, But.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
The Knicks had other idea. The Knicks ended up cutting it.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
They ended up going to like a mini run, and
they ended up cutting it to thirteen, so they had
to feel really really good thirteen and still boy share
and that's still double digits. But still you were down
twenty and in the blink of but now you got
it down. You got it down to thirteen. And and
I thought, like early in the third, you know, they
got it down to ten and then the Pacers pushing

(44:10):
back to fifteen. But then all of a sudden, you
see them get that thing down to seven, they get
it down to five.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
You're like, oh, oh yeah, oh, now you're at home and.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Your quiet, your crowd as long as I can get longer,
as long as I can keep the crowd out of it, jail.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I like my chances from the road team. Now I
done got the crowd out of it.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
You had him in the you had him in the
game in the second quarter, and now here it is
the third quarter, getting ready to head into the fourth,
and they quiet yeah again. And I love Terry Halliburton.
I think he's a hell of a player. I think
he's going to just continue to get better. But I
didn't see on that. I didn't see out there tonight
where somebody was like, Yo, you give me the damn ball, right,

(44:54):
give me the ball, right, I'm about to do this.
And as as the point guard, you can really at
the table and set and set the chemistry of the
team with that mentality, right, And I just felt like
a lot of times, you look, he was kind of
off ball, and I understand they were trapping him when
he got the ball, but he has to be a
little bit more aggressive about, you know, the will to
want to win the game. And I think he will

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be because he seems like a really good competitor. But
he's gonna have to be because now now the Knicks
feeling like, hey man, we get this one and we
get to go back to the garden. You know, we're
in a great position. And to tell you the truth,
it's a must win situation for the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, come get before.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
They got to win that game because if you go
back to two, now it's the best side of three. Yeah,
make it hard on yourself when the Knicks have a
home court yep, Sga said. The Thunder got punched in
the mouth by Anthony Edwards and the Wolves. We got
punched in the mouth and next game we're either going
to get back up or not, and we'll lose the game.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
The timber Wolds shot lights out in Game three. They
hit fifty seven percent of their shot.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
They went twenty or forty from the three point line,
collected night team, more rebounds, had fourteen more points in
the paint, and man thirty points in thirty minutes now rebounds,
five or sis two steals he was plus he was
twelve or seventeen from the floor, five of eight from
the three. Finally got that three ball going because the
first two games it was non existent. Plus thirty six,

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five and one in the target center this postseason.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Which Thaya jail I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
There's no way Oklahoma City plays the way they play,
and I think it'll be difficult for Minnesota. Minnesota and
will them in that first half, you know, he he
just simply willed them.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Minnesota has the debt two because again, you got a
thing in the playoffs that will come.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
What happens if they start trapping and man, and then
who you go to?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Right, you're talking about OKC is one of the best
scoring teams.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Hell, they said it, they said it.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
They was historical, you know, historical this year when it
came to yeah, you know, margins of victory, right, that
came because the level of depth when it comes to scoring,
it's probably best in the league. Right, And so I
would think that they're gonna come back, you know, with
the sense of urgency and do the things that they've
just completed them in doing all year. Right, It's not

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something that they got to go in and figure out
in the locker, Right, you know who's gonna do what?
They just got to get back to doing what they've
been doing, and then you know they're gonna be fine.
I think they this is this is a year that
I would love to see them play against the Pacers
because you got two teams that play with depth, and
I think it's ultimately may end up being that way.

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But I see a series going being three to one
after tomorrow night. Yeah, hey, you I'm looking at this.
I thought the Timberwolves got Shannon Junior came up the
bench in thirteen minutes and gave him fifteen big points.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I thought Dante Deevin Chienzo hears some big threes to
keep that lead, keep that.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
When at Man went to the.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Bench, I thought navs Reed played played probably his best
game of this sedition short series thus far.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Miller came in.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I just thought, look, but the keys for them is
ant Man to be efficient and Drew Raanda.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You look at jew Radna.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
He had a really good game Game one, and then
he was non existing in game two and they got
blown out. He didn't even play in the fourth quarter.
They're like, now we good get to go on sail
there and get your mind right. They showed the clipboy.
He's telling the feferal, y'all go ahead and go we
I ain't going back in the game. We ain't about
to win this game. I see all the Hey, we're
getting ready to go back to Minnesota. We're gonna give
him something there. Randa was nine to fifteen from the floor,

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two of five, four to fourth from the free throw line,
plus thirty eight in thirty minutes twenty four points. Ant Man,
as I said before, thirty minutes twelve or seventeen, five
of eight, one of two for the free throw line.
He had nine rebounds, six as sists, two steals plus
thirty six thirty points. When those two guys getting it going. Now, McDaniels,

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here's some big shot yesterday. I thought he did a
good job and thought he did a better job on Shay,
did a great job of keeping keeping him off the
fire line. He only had four free throw attempts. You know,
Shade normally somewhere in that ten. He could easily be
ten to thirteen attempts for night. I thought they did
a great job of keeping him off the file line,
making it tough on everybody. Rudy Gobert had his best game,

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although he only had seven points. But I thought the
bench for Minnesota was sensational last night, and they needed
to be because that's where Okay, see you look at
Okac's bench when they come with Caruso, and they come
with Wiggins, and they come with Wallace, and they come
without saying Joe, they don't miss a beat. They ate,
they got the other Jalen Williams. They they're they're deep.

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They gonna play. They have to play ten eleven guys
that did not have a problem playing playing it, playing
his rook guys. He believed him, like, we've been playing
them all year, while we're gonna get to the playoffs
now and cut our bench, increase those guys minute, get
them tired, and put him in a situation that I
used to be in it all year. So I like
his philosophy.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Hey, and and also you know the peggyback on what
Jo said about obviously them making the adjustments for Anthony
Edwards to stop him. Obviously, what do you what are
they going to do once they trapp him? Well, obviously,
and you got to know that coming out already that
they're gonna make adjustments to try and stop you, and
having the kick from everybody else in the bench has

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they have to find a way to play the exact
same way they did this game.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Shannon Jr. DEVI, you said I don't want to Vicenzo.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Uh McDaniels and ain't got to be aggressive again, trapp
or not. Hey, there were games you win into you
know this double team is coming.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I don't man, I don't see none of that. You
know what, he has to have that same mentality that
he had this game he got address.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
If you go back and look at him with the Lakers,
there are a lot of times he had like twelve cents,
he had nine and siss. He trusted his guys. Now
if you let him slip through the crack, he going
to the rim. Every time you go, he going to
the rim. But the thing that I like about him,
he is very unselfish. He will give the ball up. Now,
he's gonna give the ball up if you're knocking down shots. Yeah,

(51:12):
his mentality is you're not knocking down shots and we
lose it. Let me go in this phone booth and
put this cap on and see what I can do. Right, well,
I say this, I will say this and again every
player in whether it's NDIA, NFL, Major League Baseball, NHL,
those are the very best athletes in the world. Absolutely
just start there. Don't be done on nobody. People be
like this man the gallon then he ain't good. Nah,

(51:34):
he's good. Yeah, yeah, it's good. He just ain't that
than it was. You know, it's out there right right
right right. I will say this and you almost saw
it happen tonight. If Karl Anthony Towns don't go for
twenty you know, in that in that in that fourth quarter, Yeah,
if you put people it's one thing about you know,

(51:55):
having a you know, having an opportunity to get you know,
to get having yourself a night, right, well, in the playoffs,
if you have yourself a night, then the next night
it's going to be a script for you with tickling basketball.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Right. And so from that perspective is.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Can you have the will and endurance, mind, body and
soul to come and have another one?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
One?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Typically that hadn't been your role, right, And so that's
the difference when I see teams like Indiana, teams like
Okay se where they've all season long depending on that debt,
and they've been every night somebody goes to twenty five
or you know, twenty two. Right, it's been consistent. And
you hear them talk they always talk about the numbers, right,

(52:36):
we trust our teammates. You look at Minnesota, you look
at the Knicks. Do they have that right that have
that on their roster where somebody off that bench or
somebody that's not Karl Anthony Towns or a man or.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Julius Rando, you know that.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Can you know Jaylen Brynston that can come off the
bench and be that factor the remaining the remaining of
the of the of that series. I don't know. I
don't know if they have that right. And that's the
biggest question. You know, we're about to be about to
find out. What do you expecting in game A Game four?
Because the first three games have been a snooze fest.

(53:14):
They haven't been close is very disappointing. I mean, forty
two points twenty plus twenty I mean, you're like, bro,
these are these are supposed to be the two best
teams in the Western Conference and they're losing by an
average of probably twenty points a game.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
That's not good.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Again, I'm not even I love the offensive floor of things, right.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I think offensive the high numbers is good.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
But in the playoffs, I think defensive strategy, right is
the most important part that we should be seeing more.
To get beat by forty or thirty plus in the
playoffs is crazy to me crazy, So you're crazy to me, bro,
I just I can't digest that. And I'm as if
you watch, and I'm watched as a fan, I'm like, yo,
how does this happen? You know everything about this roster, right,

(54:02):
I mean the Scotting report is immense. I mean you
guys about you know exactly what? Yes, everything, quarter back
hold the ball like it. It's like you what ross
he liked to run the split, He liked to run
him from down in distant area of the field, red zone,
backed up, middle of the field, whole normation everything Trip said,
two boy one three by one has an empty back field.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Then you know the funny thing about it?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
And then even though you have all that information that
you need, you can have all that information you need
and study, watch film, but you still got to execute
it once you get out there. Absolutely, you got executed
once you get out there. And that's why I'm hoping.
How I see I see the next game going. I
think the Wolves are probably gonna win again. But it
has to it has it has to come from the

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exact same way it did the first time it all started.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
It win nobody there right away.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
You got to be aggressive because if you lose his
next game, you go down three one, you're.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Going home when you go back to Yeah, I think
it was one hundred percent. It's a must win for
both Minnesota and Indiana. Right, Wow, it's a must win, bro.
I think you know, you put too much at risk
if you don't win those games. And as I was,
done impossible. You're not about to Minnesota, not about to
go to OKC and win down three winning or even
win the series.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
But you know, it's it's interesting to see, you know
what's having.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I like games like tonight whereas it's it's the score
is tight, energy is you know, everybody sitting on the edge.
Nobody want to see a game where the damn commentators
got to make up stuff to talk about in the
third quarter.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, but that's great.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Talking about Yeah, they talk about when they played way
back when. Now the focus on this game, right, But
I mean, you got that, and sometimes that's you got.
That's why, that's why you got to be great at storytelling,
because every game is not gonna be niptok, And then
you gotta find ways to try to keep the fans
entertained the best you possibly can. After the Lakers got bounced,

(56:10):
JJ Reddick emphasized that the team needed to be in
championship shape shape. While he didn't mention your names, many
took the comments of the clear message to Luca. Well
weeks later, Luca made a significant public appearance. UH Luca
made his first significant public appearance by attending Real Madrid's
basketball game and posted these on I G.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
You think that's Ai? Yeah, that's what. There's no way
hell if he lost that week that fast? And why
the hell he ain't doing it during the season. Hey,
that that's it. That's what I'm ay. Don't I don't
care what he looks like right now. I'm talking about
when he come back to play. That would he looked
like this when he come back to play?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Held on? Hey, hey do you think he uncle jail?
You think he took that Olympic Olympic?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Nah, he ain't. No, No, I don't the UK. I
don't think you can take that there then be a player.
I have a question. Okay, you can't take that as
an NBA player? Right? How many weeks they've been out
they've been out of season? What three? Two? If that
ain't been that damn long for him to look like
it ain't been that long for you to lose all
that weight like that. He probably took that Olympic stuff.
I'm telling you, man, you know it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Like I've watched him, Like when you watch him play
with his national team, he always looks thinner.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
He does.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Then he comes back to the United States and it's
like he's eating East rolls and postive. But the American food.
I mean, you look at Europeans, they're not as big
as Americans. It's up about the food.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Hell eating a lot of I mean you do.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I mean if you go, if you go to Europe,
you're not gonna see as many and you.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Know people that that's a little heavier.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
You don't see a whole bunch of them.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, so he's doing something. I don't know if it's
now jail. You know this. Their bodies are gonna be
their bodies.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
They're not gonna be sculpted, gonna have albs, They're not
gonna have caps on their shoulders, They're not gonna have
that much. They all look alike. I've never seen a
European player with muscles. You look at Yokic, you look
at Luca, you look at Manu, you look at Zubos.
You look at any international player, tell me the one Sabonas,
tell me the one you say, Okay, caps on the shoulder,

(58:20):
ripped up calves.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
They just that's how they look.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It's only one that's Gianna's that I think is is Yeah,
Johanna's got that Nigerian base. They're the difference. Uh, you know,
my basis is based and it's not chiding. So he
comes from the foundation that stock. It's a little different
than what uh the Europeans with y'all Luca and jokicch

(58:48):
and Manu and all those guys came out of But
he looks good. But like I said, I don't worry
about the guy right now, and he ain't got to
play for another four five months. I want to see
him look like that when he comes back. It's strange
that he would say that. And now if it wasn't
a lot of truth to everything we heard coming out
of Dallas. Yeah, and you know when you look at him,

(59:08):
you got Kinesio tape everywhere.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, yeah, Like he's not.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
At twenty five, and I mean not at twenty You
should have Cannisio tape. You should be hey put together
like hey like that like my grub, my coffee table.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
When we're growing up. You shouldn't look like that, you
know what I'm saying. We had that black electric tape
holding up everything. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
He had Cannisio tape at twenty three, twenty four, he's
twenty six. Now I'm like, bro, why you need all
that to hold you together? But you remember now he
missed ninety one ninety two games the last two seasons. Yeah, right,
He's missed a lot of games at an early age.
And you know it clearly, it's something behind. When you
let a talent like that leave at twenty five years old,

(59:50):
it's a hell of a lot of things got to
be happening behind the scenes, you know, to say, you
know what, we're not even going after draft picks.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
You know we're not. We just want to go get
you know, get get one player.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
That basically a one for one, one for one and
we and we ain't gonna have no more conversation. So
that that said a lot. But you can see what
Dallas trying to go with it. It's a risk. He
got him number one pick this year. We'll see how
that turns out, you know, with the rest of the bigs.
I do believe that they're gonna have to probably move
some other some some pieces to bring on another piece.

(01:00:20):
So you're not gonna have Kyrie to start. Hell, he
probably want to have Kyrie the first half of the
season next year exactly. I don't think Kyrie coming back
to in January. Well, you know, he do a lot
of He do a lot of meditating and a lot
of you know. Yeah, I mean if you on him,
he got a torn a cl and it's not like
it's a big man that you got to get up
and down. Kyrie is stan framed. Uh, I mean theoretically

(01:00:41):
he could. I mean it could be seven months because
when he teared that he towards me in what late March, Yeah,
some April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December. Yeah,
I see him probably coming back late December, by the
early early January jail. Yeah, he hadn't been but and
you think about it, he hadn't been a player that

(01:01:03):
will rush back anyway. Nope, right in his career. So
he's gonna make sure he's ready to go. But again,
when he's right, he's one of the best part.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
He's spectacular. What do you think the Lakers need to do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
What if they're big, If there's somebody you think the
Lakers can get or should get in order to give
them a great opportunity to compete for title because at
this point in time, I mean, that's all Lebron is
really playing for. Here's here's my question is can the
Lakers be the Lakers with Lebron having the ball in

(01:01:36):
his hand at a lesser level?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Right? Can you know, and even with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Jokic, I mean you, I mean with Luca, Yeah, can
you have a third person that can take some of
the pressure off of those two?

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Because the thing the problem is when those two have
the ball in the hand the majority of the time,
and Lebron is a different monster. You know, he can
make things happen, get downhill, the ball does stop, and
so can you have somebody else that make life easier
for those two?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Because Lebron is forty plus years old, right, He's not
gonna be there. He's not gonna be to carry the
load like he's typically carried that, even though he can
still go for you know, thirty or forty. But you're
gonna need You're gonna need a third person that can
really make things easier. And I'm not sure how they
do it with the cap issues that they have, but
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But I don't think they have enough right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I think they're gonna be seven eighth, ninth playing you
know type of deal if they don't make a move. Oh,
they got to make a move. I think the thing is,
first of all, this is what we know. Lebron is
better without the ball than Luca. Luca cannot play off
the ball. Lebron can play off the ball because you're
not putting Luca in the dunker spot. You're not gonna do.
There are certain things you're not gonna do. And prior

(01:02:48):
to this playoffs offst Reeves with that guy. That gave
him a break because we saw Austin Reeves go get
forty against Indiana and without Luca and Lebron. So I
don't know what happened. Now the report saw that he
had an end. He got nicked at some point in
time late in the season or maybe got nicked in
that playoff series, and he wasn't as as impactful as
he needed to beat. I thought they had an opportunity

(01:03:09):
in game What was that was that game three. Yeah,
Game three, but he ended up playing Lebron then forty
six minutes and he just wore them out. You got
to get bro, you played first of all, Lebron had
already played like forty one minutes in game two, and
then you turn around in burning forty six in game three.
You got Look, I don't care what forty year old

(01:03:30):
he cannot. Yeah, there had been a forty year old
creator that can play for in a playoff game after
coming off for forty one minute. But that's what that's
so Phoenix had that idea, that third person bring being
Bradley Bill. Obviously Bradley Bill hadn't been healthy, but I'm
talking about an impact player, you know, coming in and
supposedly having that that level of impact on the team

(01:03:51):
where those guys you know, helped maybe Brian be able
to take a couple one nights off, right, Yeah, and impactful.
I just think, you know, right now, it's only downhill
now because Ebron is putting up so many significant numbers
from respective of just scoring him to score assists, rebounds,
set the table, to turn the bus on, you know,
seed the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
It's still twenty yeah, he's still twenty four eight and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
But the problem is they need a big Yeah, because
you can't start Rudy at the five and Lebroad at
the four or brought at the five and Rudy at
the four, because you see Rudy Gobert look like Shaq
twenty seven and twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
You can't. They're just too small. Jackson Hayes, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I mean, for whatever reason, JJ's like, hell, the hell
with it, Jackson, We're not gonna even play you in
game five. And he only played marginal minutes in game four.
So with that being said, I thought the Mark Williams.
I don't know why they nullified the trade, but I
thought he would have been a big addition for the
jail because they need a big Luca leaves a law threat.

(01:04:49):
If you go back and look study Luca, look at Luca.
He's his best when he has a law of threat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
But I'm gonna tell you right now, man, Like I
don't know, I don't know why the NBA is getting
away from the veterans.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
You got a guy like I use Dwight Howard.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
You always seem to be in shape, you know, for
a guy to get rebounds, block shots and defend them
and he did a better job against Rudy Gobert and
Jackson Hayes or anybody else did right. A bigger body, too,
bigger body, right, And he's and he's a savvy veteran.
He's been one one of the best defenders you know,
all the time to come down to protecting that room
and and rebound the basketball. But you know, again, most

(01:05:28):
teams don't seem to want to go get better in players.
And they don't I'm not sure, you know, the NBA
needs to needs to put in a rule right now
because if you want the product. When you talk about
the issues with people watching the NBA and and you know,
and and the you know, ratings going down, it's because
you got the young lead and the young.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
So you don't have you know, you don't you don't
even have to have.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You can take a role of a player coach role,
right and take that off off the cat. You know,
the NBA can do anything right if you get the union,
they can make it work people in place that helps develop,
you know, and you got you look at Jackson Hayes
and they had another they signed another.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Uh Alex lenn Alex Lynn.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Right, Yes, he should be the he should be the
tallest high school or college coach next year. But that's
what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you have
they just call it the white Houard. Let's use him
for example. Right, Yes, you have somebody in there mentoring
this these these young boys and and and getting them
and helping them understand the importance of everything they do

(01:06:32):
or support. Then you in a better situation. Are you
not saying you gotta go pay him five million dollars?
But just you know, just don't, don't don't put a
veteran on on on on uh, keep him off the
team because you have to pay him a little bit
more because he's a veteran.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Right, this creator role or Javel McGee, Javeal McGee was available,
That's what I'm saying. But why not?

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
I mean, so, so is the NBA doing similar to
what the NFL is doing? Also on Yeah, they really
going they be going young and doing away with all
the veterans outside of quarterback, a specific quarterback that is
still getting opportunity to play regards of age.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
But like the NFL, the NFL, a NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yeah, because you know, the minimum oh over a certain
number of years is a million dollars. Well, I can
get a guy right out of college or first you're
a guy and paying three hundred four hundred thousand, right
save six what's but what's six hundred thousand when you
bring when you get when you're making three hundred million.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Right, I don't get that. Well, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
But the question in basketball, I mean is you know,
do you do you really want to win?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I mean doesn't matter. I mean, you know, most of
most of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
You know, you Basketball's not like football where you have
historical you know, families that's involved with these teams, right,
Basketball is not that, right Baskett. The fact the majority
of the NBA now is new ownership, right, and so
from perspective, you know, what is it that? What is
the real purpose? Right is it? You know, invest in
to you know, investing to a team, let the value grow,

(01:07:59):
then sometime not sell it, get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Up off it. That's yeah, because that's that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Because if you look at the NFL, a lot of
these a lot of these owners now some of these
owners now have other things. But for the longest time,
uh j O and o Jo, these were family runs business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
These were Marlin pop shops. That's all they had.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Now you look at guys teams, people that buy teams, now,
that's not their number one business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
That team is not their number one business.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
The altisans that just bought the Dallas Mavericks, they're gambling,
that's their number one business. You look at the guy
that bought the Sacramento Kings. You look at Steve Barmer
who bought the Clippers. That was not his number one business.
Now that's what he does now. But he's worth a
one hundred billion, so he spent two. So that's not
what it is. Not like the NFL is not like

(01:08:46):
the Hunts. Now, the Hunts have other things, but it's
a family. But for the most part, NBA is a lot.
Now they're not family. The young these tech guys, these
guys that made money invested in Silicon Valley and things
like that, they're the one that's buying the team. They're
not like, I don't know, I'm trying to think who's
the oldest. So you're not gonna find somebody like the

(01:09:10):
like the like uh, the mcclaskeys, the own the Bears.
Her dad, Virginia mccasty, she just passed away. Her dad,
George Allis founded the Bears passed it down. You ain't
gonna find that in the NBA. You're not gonna find
the ruonies like the Steelers on since nineteen thirty three.
I don't find that, like the Marrows, the Giant. When
did Dolan by the Kniggs? What was the next down

(01:09:33):
to him? No, he had I think no, I think
he had his dad that Yeah, that's what they He
made the only one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
But he might yeah he might be No, what do
you call him, Jemmie Buss her dad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Seventy I think he brought the team in seventy nine,
so he might be the longest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
That was the dad, right, Yeah, they passed it down
there here the brown Shoes, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, but when you know Jimmy had uh yeah, no Bengals,
Mike Brown. It got passed down to his dad. You
might earth say he took them from his for his dad.
So they just passed past it down. Now these these
tech people coming in there with four five, six billion.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Dollars and it's it's it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah, you know, the Waltons just you know, brought the Broncos.
I mean he's worth a hundred billion. What's what's a
hundred what's what's four billion?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Hire?

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
We just saw Josh Harris, he just bought he just
purchased the Commanders last year over six what six and
a half billion?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
He also owned the seventy sixers.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
So it's not it's it's different, it's it's a different
time now. But I agree with you, Jail, I think
they should have a advance on the team to help
these young guys understand and navigate their way through uh.
I think that I think they're doing a better job
the pa of both pas of having guys understand money.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Like, Bro, you're not a doctor, you're not a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
You're not gonna have a twenty year career, right The
average year, the average career is about three and a
half years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Three and a half. So even when you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Factor in Tom Brady that played twenty three, and in
factor Peyton Manning that played eighteen nineteen and Drew Brees
and Rogers and all these guys, a lot of guys
just playing one year, a lot of guys not even
playing at all. So it comes whittle is whittle it
down to three and a half years. Bro, you're gonna
be twenty five, and that's the job that you're probably

(01:11:29):
gonna have for the next twenty years. It's not gonna
be in the NBA, the MLB, or you know, whatever
the case may be, whatever the profession you're starting in,
there's a good chance by the time you're twenty five,
you're gonna have another job, and it's not gonna be
a professional athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah, I think too, man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
You know, the full law is obviously significantly different in basketball,
right You guys draft for exact need, yes, and every
pick is a value pick, right YEA. Sometimes right now
in basketball, you know they're drafting, you know, best available,
even though you might have you might drop the point
guard and you got three already on the roster, and
so you know, I think that's the difference in basketball,

(01:12:08):
where you know, when you talk about those two or
three years or four years, it's it's a changing of
the guard happening in the NBA because you don't you
don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
A lot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
And if they send your ass down to the G
League and you a lottery pick, got already telling you where.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
You at and what are you thinking about

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
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