April 25, 2025 • 62 mins
Join Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson LIVE from Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin to react to the 2025 NFL Draft. Tap in with Unc & Ocho to see where top prospects Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, and Shedeur Sanders are selected!
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Sink Noo Johnson, Thank you guys, thank god. Oh wait
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a minute, wait a minute, can you hear me before
I Before.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I start, I need you to repeat at to me. Okay,
I said, repeat after me. Hello, I fucking love you.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Let's go the Tennessee. Look, this is the worst kept
secret of the America guys. But they canceled all the
other pre draft workouts and said after they worked at
Camp Ward they tramvis found you, but no thank you
your door, thank you, but no thank you. All those
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other guys, I think they've sentled their guy. When you
become this set on your guy, you have him targeted.
You've been watching him for a long pier time. You
want this guy to come in and start this is
not well, let's see wait till the last minute, let's
look at it. Come to other guys. Oh, Joe, this
is the guy they targeted, right, this is the guy
they want. They believe, this is the guy that's gonna
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be their Steve McNair. Get them back and play off
contentent year after year, get them to a Super Bowl.
What is it that you like so much about cam Ward?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I like what cam was able to do for the Hurricanes.
Able to have you back to the seratives where they
were a top team, got usually the office look very good.
See him as a trend.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
A gnerational talent or type. It's there. I like him.
He's been able to do so. I'm not sure what's
gonna happen once he gets there.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Obviously, he's their answer and he's supposed to be the
answer for the next ten.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Years, similar to what Jane Daniels did for the Commanders.
I'm excited. You know what I like most about cam
Ward adversity. Yes, he just didn't go to one university.
He started at at Matt Cannon. He goes all over
the place and then he settles into the University of Miami.
You want guys that have had adversity in their life.
You want guys that have gone through things cruggle because
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it's going to be a struggle at some point in time.
You're gonna face adversity as a quarterback. Why he even
a player in the NFL and having gone through that adversity,
he knows what it's like to fall on hard times.
Nick himself up and start back down there. I have
a question for you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, if cam Ward those does go number one, is
he a date one starter or is a quarterback competition
with Will Levison in camp Well, they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
The quarterback competition, but camp Ward because they singled him
out so long ago, O Jam. They didn't bring anybody
else in. They knew they wanted a quarterback, and they
knew in order for you to win in this league,
you got to have a quarterback. The reason, think about it,
why did the quarterback competition? We're picking number one of
all because the quarterback that's on the roster wasn't any
good or it wasn't very good, let's be real with it.
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Because the fe was that good, they would be picking
this high. Yes, the pure fact that they're picking this
high and they're taking a quarterback tells you they want
to transition and go to camp Ward. Now, what happened
to the pull a WOOLI of oar eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They have everybody thinking they're taking cam Ward first, and
they pull a wool and do something else with the
first pick of the draft.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't believe they're gonna do anything different, though, children
let me tell you why they It seemed like they've
been set on this pick for such a long time. Yeah,
and when you're picking this high and you're gonna guarantee
this guy somewhere between forty and forty five million, that's
his contract is gonna be fully guaranteed. I would have
liked the thought that if you wanted it was thinking
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about going somewhere else, and you bring somebody else in,
talk to him, get a feel for him. They could,
they could, right, But I don't believe that's the case.
I believe cam Ward is there guy. This is the
funny thing about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
If you have the number one pick, you really don't
have to talk to anybody else because you already know
who you're taking. Regardless, they don't know what their plans are,
especially in the war room. Yeah, sometimes you know how
they play you never know. It's a chance a chess match,
So I'm curious. I'm excited if Cam Wored does go
to Tennessee. I wish him nothing but the best at
number two. When would y'all like to see who woo
going number two?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Crown, Yeah, Travis Hudder, ab Dual Carter, Yeah, I think
it's I think it's a two horse race for number two.
I think it's Travis Hunter that Dual Carter. Obviously, Travis
is a two way player. He'll give you offense, he
can give you defense. Ab Dual Carter is an edge
rushing twelve sacks this past season. Buys a lot of
people Michael Parson, Lebar Arrington, or that streat linebacker lineage
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that comes out of Penn State University. He's gonna be
very big interesting to see. The third is where it
starts to get interested. I think, you know what I
think the first two picks, I think they're kind of
I'm not gonna say echeton Stone, but the guy's carving.
I think he's already to see.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, actually, I don't think number three might be different
based on who goes number two. If travers, if they go,
if they go defense, you go with the two way player.
I say, Travis Hunter goes number two. Yes, then it's
it's a it's a toss up. That's number three? Can
it be ab Dual Carter? Do the Giants need another?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Even is in there already? Have to go? Go with
Keevon Thibodeau? Yes, what about Shador because they still don't
have a ma goes with Lawrence to de tackle. But
here's the thing, o, Joe, you really need somebody to
compete in that division at the quarterback position. Okay, they
got Russ? Is that enough to hold it? It's only
one year. I know they got Jamis, but that's only
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one year. Jane Daniels Jalen Hurts. Yes, Dak Prescott. If
you go back and look at what happened in the Raiders,
you got uh Pat Mahomes, you got Bowl Nicks, you
got you got Justin Hurbler. Yeah, and now you got that, Joe.
You see, the Raiders really needed They knew they needed
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a quarterback because you got it's a quarterback heavy division, right,
The NFC East is a quarterback heavy division. Now the
question is do you want to match fire with fire
or do you want somebody to go extinguish that fire.
That's the question. A defensive player can only impact the
game so much. You see, what the what? What the
Philly hell? Defense? A defense? Collectively though as a whole,
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why is a hole? You hear chirps Washington's truck and
play four? Go up? No, didn't play for t J Watt. Okay,
that'd be that'd be nice. So I think I think
it starts to get interested in getting three once we
get to three, and okay, it's gonna really start to
get interested in four, five, six, seven, eight, the top ten.
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It's gonna be a listening to the Adam Schefter. I
think somebody else said it. More teams are interested in
moving down, yeah, and moving up.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think we don't have We don't have a really
exciting draft class. Outside of maybe the top three. There
aren't too many players that really that are really a track.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What are you're saying? Okay, you got Devil Clark? Oh, okay,
don't not go, don't pack go. Don't he going number one?
That's the face when you're going number one. Sure I
(11:04):
can help, he's like bad observing. But they've done a
great job of holding it in O doubt because you
don't want to rob him without excitement. You ain't let
him have that moment. Letter aylet call Amy's me. I'm
just calling hey, what you doing? What you have for lunch?
What you have for breakfast today? You see Travis Hunter
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in the pink? Is that pink? Confusion?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That that's that's pink. Okay, that's pink. I'm excited for Trap.
I'm excited for Trap, especially wherever he goes. I'm hoping
the organization knows that he would love to play both
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I hope they grant him that grace.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Being that's what he was able to do at Colorado.
I'm excited for him. I don't know where he goes.
I would like, you know what I would like, But
I would like for Jerry Jones to make us flash
by not talking to the media but moving up the
draft and going to get Travis Hunter at number two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I like that. Oh boy, you got to give up
so much. I think the count that you might as well,
you might as well. I mean, I just empathetic speaking.
I think it would be done. Jerry says he's had
something brewing on the trade market. That's what Jerry said.
Jerry says he got too too big fish in the
fire right now. If it might be it, If I'm Jerry,
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I go try to get Tyreek. Oh that's another go.
And that's a go. I like that. I like that.
Tyreeke Tyreek and CD Tyreek and CD tip Tyreek outside
CD in the slide. You got Javonte Williams at running back.
He came over from the Broncos. I think they're gonna
probably they need to do something at the offensive line.
Zach Martin retired. The offensive line wasn't very good last year.
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They were beat up. Terry Steele is there. They got
the Smith kid, but they need they need some quality.
That got hit a little bit too much. And the
running game was non existed. I don't know if they
weren't very good at the running game or they didn't
put an emphasis enough on the running game, but they
definitely need to improve the running game in the offensive line. Yes,
think it. So do you think they pulled a switching
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row on us? I might think so. I don't know what.
I I don't know why I can feel it. What
do y'all think? Who do you think you're gonna be
the first pick? Damn? Travis you think, Travis, You think Cam?
Who you got? Who you got? Normal? Who you got
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going number one? Travis? You think? So we want to
make a bet that's beat twenty bucks. Let's bet twenty
bucks me and you. I ain't gonna pay you, but
let's bet don't he don't pay. Don't Patty, don't pat Hy,
He don't pay. He been on me thinking two hundred
for six months. Oh, come on, now it's time. Ay
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what we don't normally be late? Normally I'm gonna cark.
There's three minutes. Well, I hear the commissioner. The commissioner
normally comes to the podium. Welcome to the twenty twenty
five NFL draft. Welcome the clock. How long o' clock go?
I think it's ten minutes in this Okay, I ask
you in my ear? How long? What we want to
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make a bet? I'm going camp? He's going camp. He
got camp. Look at commission the bike I got hey,
look at commission on the bike. He tripping. That's the
green that's the Green Bay training camp tradition. Hold on,
you got I got trappers? How they're going first? Let's
bet Freddie Ben Freddy Dan? All right, lord he commiss
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probably hadn't rolled the bike, hadn't rolled the bike in
twenty years. Thirty forty, beg you forty And they got
a little waging on the bike wing Yeah, okay, little
weighing on the bike with uthers. Ah, let's go, come on,
Louis got come on, what we got? Come on? Commiss
(14:54):
got on sneakers. See that's all a j No Matthews
Junior Clay Matthews Jr. They looked at he Does they
still doing the commission? You know that after all these years? Yes? Actually,
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actually they're buing the owners. But he had to go
out there in front of them. Remember what we talked
about Niko.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Harrison's right father, the song for that, Yeah, most definitely. Hey,
are you nervous to lose that twenty all right? Matter
of fact, you don't even have to pay me after this.
You got to treat me to dinner? No, I want
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to go to Tanners all right?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bett? Can you hear? Can you hear commission talking? No?
I can't either.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I was wondering why can't we I thought we was
gonna be able to hear. Oh, we'll turn the TVF
so we can hear. I mean I'd like to watch
the games in sound, but I want to hit the
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Pinks in real time. Hey, thank you? No raps h yes, no,
he's a Broncos. He's a Bronco raby No, no bot. Hey,
you're a Raven fan? Hey, why are you here? Come
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on mann? Oh you're a Raven fan too. Listen.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You know I still love you, but everybody LIFs have flaws.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's one of yours. It's cool. Hey, hold on, who's
better the Ravens and the Bengals? Right now? You want
to make a bet this year? Bet twenty dollars the yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes,
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eight out of you in mayor not not too loud,
not too loud. Huh, that's a good one. That's a
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good one. I don't know if the President actually said that,
but that was pretty good. So so as Commission announced
that the Titans on the clock down. Here we go,
Here we go. Come on, Roger, he can speed this
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up if you just go ahead. Announced the pick.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yes and more mm hmm man, let's go me three
Titans on the clock.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Do we have any Titans fans here? Oh you're by
yourself Titan fans? No, that says Vikings. Hey, Warren Moon.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Warren Moon said that if cam Get goes to the Titan,
he will take the number one out of retirement and
let it allow him to wear it. That's dope, that's live.
So here it is, yeah, quarterback, two differensive players. I
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don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I just have a feeling they gonna pull a fast one,
you think so, Joe, I can?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I can? I have a feeling out. I don't know why.
Why let mention this? Why would you take travel? You
ain't got nobody to getting the ball? You don't think
they did?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Will Levis another year they've only he really hasn't had
a really an actual chance.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think they would. But he keeps making the same mistakes. Right,
That's that's what eats. That's what Buck coaches, right see, Okay, wow,
(19:47):
h okay, all right, yeah, all right. Listen to Adams
Cheff to talk. He says that the Tennessee Titans was
sold on Cam war thet the Giant said we will
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switch sponsor with you at three and give you and
other draft picks.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So that's so little fire as Cam going one. Yeah,
it looks like I lost the bet, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hey, he don't look look at it. He got the
phone up to his zero shoe. Allow him to have
that moment. Oh you wanted to sign? Huh wait you
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want me signed that one of the one I give you?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Hey, you got got two dollars, got dollars. Somebody gotta
ad Shelley. I'm betting money. I ain't even got a bet.
I'm getting you money now, hold on. Wow, yeah, you
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got to do a better job.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Wow. Mail Capra seems to be sold more on your
door than cam Ward. But it's too late now the
haze in the barn, Cam's going number one overall. How
you betting my money? He betting my money? It's yours,
You're that's mine. I owe you fitted you out there
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in twenty dollars now with a fifteen percent time for it.
You owe me more than that. Boy. Mail is really
sold on your door. I think the one thing of
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watching him, oh Joe, he got do a better job
of getting the ball out he takes. He takes a
lot of sacks all the A lot of times the
quarterback gets sacks. People automatically think it's the offensive line right.
Sometimes you got to know when to hold him, know
when to motive. Sometimes don't get your team in second
and long, third and long. Sometimes, don't take your team
out of field goal range. Get the ball out. It's
okay to live to see another day. But be smart. Yes,
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you know, if you field goal range, don't take a sack,
throw it out, throw it out a bound. If you
know your second and short, don't be third long. Just
don't do anything stupid. He talked a great job of
protecting the ball, but sometimes I think he's too casts long.
You've got to have some risk in order to be
successful in the beat. I think I think he's gonna
be okay. I don't like what the meeting and the
puns have done to us.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, they beat him up. They're beating him up
really bad based on him being confident. That's one of
the few things that you do need to play at
the highest level is you got to have beliefs. You
got to be confident in your skills and what you're
able to do. Coming out and saying if you want
a franchise changing quarterback, you come and get me.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that all.
What was he supposed to say, if you want a franchise,
you change your quarterback, don't come get me, don't draft me.
If you want to win your division, you want to
go to the playoffs, don't take me. Of course, that's
what he's supposed to say. I do like Cam. He
do have great est capabilities. Look, I think we all
can agree that Cam is a better athlete than your door. Yeah,
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but that doesn't mean your door can't play in the NFL.
Peyton Manny wasn't the greatest athlete. I'm not saying your
door is gonna be that. I'm not saying he's gonna
be Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Rivers. But there's room for
guys that are not athletic. As athletic and say Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Or a.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Who's the guy in Buffalo, Josh Allen, because they're supremely athletes.
That doesn't mean a guy that's not as athletic can't
get the job done.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But then there are other attributes the fact that he's
not as athletic. There are other things to his game
that's much better at his precision zagers, his ability to
process very fast outside of holding the ball too long
sometimes waiting on things to developed.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Sometimes there's one a quarterback. What you can't see with
a quarterback. That makes him great because you look at
Tom Brady. He didn't have anything, no big arm, he
couldn't not he couldn't run very fast, he didn't have
the muscular body. But what he had here, what he
had here, Yeah, replaced everything, replaced everything else. So sometimes
it's the intangibles as opposed to the tangibles. How much
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time on the clock. We got the pickets, the pigs
in picks in picks in. Well, we're about to find
out the pisid got won my twenty bucks, Travis Hunerd. No, yeah, look,
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I just see anybody else put the phone up to
the aerial show. How did see tramp put the phone
up to his ear? Yeah, I didn't see a Dudale
car to put the phone up to his ear. Wait,
that might that might have been a trick though. That
might have been a trick man who plays on the phone. Harry,
Come now, what the Tennessee Titans select from the University
(25:13):
of Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Okay, okay, you're right, you're right, good pick I damn it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, guys, I don't think there was much of surprise here.
When they turned down all other busits and workouts. They
wrote in them that guy I'll tell, oh, tell, it's
you know what it's like. It's like, you know the
kind of car you won't Why are you gonna go
test driving? Waste the people time, test driving something that
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you know you aren't gonna buy. You're right, You're right.
I got your mind made up. Put this up a Ferrari,
a lad a g Wagon or a coloring and whatever
the case may be. When you have your mindset, don't
go waste them. What time to but let me test
drive this, Let me test drive there? Oh we got
a trailer ern Oh, Joe, wait, what are we? What
are trading the cowboys? I guarantee you Jacksonville. No, they're
(26:16):
going to get They're going to get. They going to trial.
Ain't going to get trapped? Wait, travist, what if they
shock you and they get asked? Duel Carter? No, no, no,
asked the gent Yn Jens joke. No ooh, I don't
know what, Joe, hold on? You going?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You going to get up a running back? All listen,
I just heard about Jacksonville. I just heard about Jacksonville.
Always wanted to ask Jenny. I heard it all fixed right see.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Wow, wow, Hey, I thought we'd get interested that once
we got past three three oh, the DRAMs started at John.
That changes up everything. Now though it does up everything,
don't me tell you what it changes up at Who
goes to That's what changes. Right? If they take.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Genty wait they got they got etn right, That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's why I think it makes sense for me to
take Travis Hunter because you can play the more offense
and defense. Now you get a package together, right. Hey,
he plays as many snaps as he can handle on
that defense. Huh, and you got a nice little package
for him more offense. I like it if Travis Hunter
is the pick, right, I think if Genji's the pick. Also,
(27:36):
I look at I look at Philly. I look at
what say Khon was able to do for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And I see ask the gense in that same light,
being able to run the ball, being able to be
a three down backing and passer, take and catch the
ball out the backfield. He could do some of those things.
I'm not sure. I don't know what they could do
with the number two pick Travis Hunter. It is nice,
but I would have much preferred him somewhere else in
the bigger market New York. I would have loved him
in New York, and obviously in Cleveland opposite side of
(28:01):
the dizzel ward and obviously doing.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Some stuff on offense, opposite the judy. Yeah, but I mean,
where do y'all think jackson Where is Jacksonville going with
the number two pick? Now, Travis Hunter? I think Travis too?
Where if you going number two pick Travis Travis, Travis,
Travis Travis, I think so too, O Joe. It makes
(28:27):
it makes sense because house where you gonna get him,
gotta go up tear it too. He wasn't gonna be there, Nona,
because then there's a possibility shoot somebody shoot on past
three and take it two to make a trade with
the giants to take it. I think it's gonna be
Travis Hunter. I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm surprised. Like
(28:50):
I said, I won't be surprised if it's Travis Hunter, right,
I'm gonna be shot if it's Ashton j d ain't
ain't no ain't no telling I ain't no telling him.
I mean number two to the ojo a running back
back running he went five, he went to he went
behind Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's right, So why do you think he wouldn't be
the one to go too. He I'm not saying he's
I'm not as special. I'm not saying it.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, people are telling him it's gonna be
Travis Hunter. I like it, like it. We got a
spy in the cream room. Travis Hunter has been on
the phone with Travis hunting all those they can't they
get the second Oh Joe, The Browns get the fifth
(29:41):
oro row pick the twenty twenty five second and fourth
round picks, and that cheers number one. That's that's nice.
That's up haul, that's a that's nice, Joe. To move
up three spots. Yeah, look at what they gave up
to move up three spots, and you thought the cow
form is gonna move up ten spots.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They get a DNT stadium. That's dope, Travis Hunter, Duval County.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Oh Joe, that's almost a bigger deal as what the
forty nine ers gave up to get Trey Lance. Yeah,
Trey Lance went from it. That didn't work out. No,
I'm but look, Travis is proven. Travis did it at
Jackson State and then said, yeah, but if you had
a bigger school, you couldn't do that. He goes to
(30:29):
a power for and he did it on both sides
of the fall at a very high level. He was
the Heisman Trophy winner, he was the Blit, the comfort
Ward winner, he was the Girls Kill Award winner. So
there's no question about the ability. The question that people
don't have is can't he play at the level he
played that in college. It's on both sides of the ball.
I think you can.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Like we already talked about, I prefer to see him
at receiver or dB. Maybe them have some have some
packages for him at receiver as a dB. One thing
about it, I know all games are gonna sell out.
You think it was gonna have the number one selling jersey.
This Yeah, Uva County got you a good one. They
got you a good one at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I like it. I like this pick. That's dope. I
like this pick. I'm really liking this pick. To the Jags,
Jaggs knew the guy that they wanted Ojoe, Yes, they
knew the guy that they wanted. Okay, we're gonna have
to give up King's ransom to get up got to
It's sometimes when you want a house, isn't that subdivision.
It's not called the same. Yeah, they got great, great
(31:26):
schools and that in that districk. Yes, everything is in
close proximity. You gotta pay a little bit of I
have to pay a little extra. It's all about location.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And you have no problem playing extra for that nice
location because you know what you get long term.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yes, know what you get long term. So you got
to thank Resale. I'm gonna reb able to recoup my
money in Travis Hunter easily. People are going to look,
he's from George. It's a short ride from Atlanta to Jacksonville.
I like, I like this pick now. They gave up
a lot to get it, Mojoe. It was worth it.
They gave him a lot to get it. Birth it
absolutely ask how much time we got h the ticket
(32:02):
and saying coach uh commissions walking back to is that
(32:24):
I don't get it, and he looked in Wow, he was,
uh you the San Francisco two years do what's his name?
The d D D lineless? Oh, I don't know, I
don't know the line of fa. Well, ask what was that?
What's his name? He was as uh h that there
(32:56):
on stead okay.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
H kah.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Dull little du ball Actually gonna lose his mind. Yeah, absolutely,
mm hmmm. Wow. I don't think anybody saw this pig
(33:37):
coming though, Joe. I don't think anybody saw this trade.
Not the trade, but pick. Yes, he was going to, Yes,
he had to be going to. Yeah. I just didn't
know anybody would jump up if getting like this.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Promise traft. Yeah, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Oh that's live, that's live wide receiver, defensive back.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And he got his dad in his attendance. His dad
was able to get permission O Joe to come see
his son. There, you show show out. That's live. That's great.
The thing you'll go, Joe, webin this young man. Hopefully
your journey starts all over again. There was a journey
(34:44):
to get to this point. Now your journey starts all
over again, because your journey wasn't just to get here,
it was to thrive here. Most definitely listen. I remember
I remember those days.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Obviously I wasn't able to go to the draft, but
just getting drafted, and just think about all the obstacle
to go.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
To the draft. The military. I was getting ready to
head I was getting ready to head down to the
Air Force recruiter center. Hey, this is dope.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
This is great for Travis, it's great for out the
Jaguars organization.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
That's a that's the dope feeling. Uh hey, hey, there
been skilled guys coming. That came. The skilled guys can't
lift commissioned up like the old life. This is unbelievable.
(35:43):
This is unbelievable right here, all right? Yeah, I like it.
I like it. We got we got the Giants at three. Yeah,
it's gonna be Carter, you think so. Yeah, playing with Thibodeaux,
pairing with Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
But then what's what's she hands the long term at
the quarterback division, if you do go with Thibodeaux, well,
they say they got they believe Rusk can sustain him
for a year.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Uh, they got Jamis. So the thing is they they
want to be able to attack Jalen Hurts, right, they
want to be able to attack Jane Daniels. They want
to be able to attack uh Dak Prescott. So with
that in mind, look you got two edged Russias and
you got one of the premier d tackles, right and
all the football collapse in the pocket on the inside.
(36:31):
I like the pick. I like the pick cause if
I pay it a quarterback at three, oh, Joe, I
got to love it. I gotta love it. But also
in that division, you got to have a quarterback to
be able to go some points.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
And you can go to defense. Let's say you do
go at abdual quarter year. Hey, you're able to stop
all the all the teams that are able to score
at will in your division. Right, but how you gonna
put up points? Well, how are you gonna put up points?
They say they got believed neighbors. Uh, they believe Russ
can get him the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They believe they could probably get a they can get
a who knows they could trade back in and get
one of these receivers. But they I think they believe
about you. They can get a great pick in the
second round. Do you believe they can have Do you
believe they can get a Day two pick, a Day
two wide receiver that's quality.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Absolutely, There's some gems, there's some gyms that aren't out
there that aren't talked about enough that might be able
to come out based on the system that they do run.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Craig, Yeah, the first two picks, I'm not I'm not
surprised at all. No. I mean, you get the get
the premier, you get the Premierre cornerback draft. You get
a top three receiver in the draft, you get the
best athlete in the draft. Yeah, most definitely. I'm not
(37:45):
I'm not surprised at all. Old traft. They got due
Ball Florida in the cap. I like that. Giants picking
(38:06):
figure in, Giants pickers in. I in the green room,
say gonna be abdul What we got? Who we going? Who?
You got a number three? Abdual Carter, Abdua Carter big
on attack, say maybe maybe should do it. I don't know.
(38:26):
I think the thing is they wanted they want to
attack the quarterback. They want to attack the quarterback edge
rushers because think about what what the Philly What the
Philly got? They got Jalen Hursts inside and they got
them edge rushes on the egg they lost, they lost,
you know or what who is it? A sweat? Was
the sweat?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And they have the I forgot young young bull. Yeah
three he end up what he got to uh New England.
But they still but they still they still got ce
De saying the last players were eight plus starts on
office and deep then and that was what ninety five? Yeah,
that was a long long time ago. Yeah, very long.
(39:12):
But you have to understand, though, o Jo, that was
that was time seventh or eighth season, right, That wasn't
this rookie season. Defenses are a little bit more complex.
Offenses are a little bit more complex. Right. But he
told you before you, Oh, they're gonna allow Jackson, Bille
is going going to allow I like, okay, okay, they're
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gonna allow it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The pigg is in Biggs in Giants, Shador Sanders. And
you want to make a bet how much you got
to lose? The man hugging his mom and dad on
the TV up there? Oh real, yeah, and you cheating
you're looking at the TV. Yeah, I told you I spy.
(39:58):
I spy in the ninety There you go.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, many even even pops got on chain. We got barkling.
That ain't gonna fox. That's live. Abdul Carter to the Giants, Look,
(40:23):
he's a two either unanimous all America. The one thing
that the guy, Hey, for the most part, you look
at the Lebard guys that wear that number left having special, special,
special special. Abdual Carter is special. He can heat, he
can transfer speed, the power, he can bend the edge. Hey,
(40:44):
I got no problem with this pic and on that turf,
he's gonna be dynamic, he's gonna be electric. I mean,
I like it, But still I'm thinking about in order
to compete in that especially in that division, you need
somebody at the quarterback. And there's nothing wrong with Russ
then no disrespect the Russ and no dispector Jamis as well.
But to compete in that division, you need a transcending talent,
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someone to set you ahead of the schedule by a decade.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Okay, I don't see I like you doing. I don't understand.
I don't know what the scout seeing. I don't know
the gyms are looking at.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
But I see I saw him do that.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Jackson Stadt again, what you got special handshake?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, they had a special handshake or they practiced that. Yeah,
they did, absolutely, they practiced that. I think everybody is
happy with the first three picks on Joe. I think
every fan base is really happy with those picks.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Hey, you can't go wrong, you can't for the first five,
you really can't go wrong.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
And for I think the Patriots said for everybody had
them Pegg there to take offensive lineman, the big offensive
lineman on the l s U. Yeah, Will Campbell. Yeah,
our spies tell us that Will Campbell is on the
phone with somebody. I don't think I don't think it's
a there's a his accountant. But that is that's a
(42:05):
great pick, man, that's a great pick. Look at this
the great time. Oh, that's how you do it. You unload.
Look at this, Hey, run it back. You better step up,
you better step up. Oh, let me get that great
tip dropping coverage with this. Look at this, spying spies, spies,
(42:27):
look at this, Look at this clothing speed give me that.
But this is where he excels at right here, o Joe,
Look at this, Look at this, Look at this one
side of the field, to the other side of the field.
A TfL tackle for loft. But look at it. Look
at this step boot. That's body Miller, special broken mills.
Where you going low? And yeah, he's specially he can
(42:52):
be in. You're nice. That's a good pick. Now, I
can't I can't complain. I can't complain. I like it,
O Joe, because everybody else in that division, with the
exception of the Cowboys, had an outstanding defense, at least
they were last year. We saw what Philly did it. Look,
we don't know what's gonna happen with the Commanders. It's
you know, being reported that they're in the running with
(43:12):
for TJ. Watt his bird. Steelers might want to move
try to move up, But I like this pig for them.
I do. I agree with you, now, don't get me wrong.
I agree with you with the quarterback situation. But for
them to go defensive player instead of a quarterback tells me.
I'm not sold on your door. I'm not sold on
Jackson Dark And when you take up a guy that
(43:34):
you gotta be sold on Joe. Yeah. Matter of fact,
when you pray, when you paid me and your plus
for home, you better be sold. Everything should be ready
for you to move in and your set up shot.
That's it. And he's that type of player. He's a
plug and plate. There's no question they started day one.
They won. He started. Oh the pack want t J.
(44:04):
I think, I think, I think a lot of teams
want t J. You're talking about one of the two
or three best rushers in the NFL. The New England
Patriots are on the clock nine four now. They would
they were they They made his flash. They spend a
lot of money in the season. They spent a lot
of money. They got their quarterback, they got their head coat. Yes, uh,
(44:26):
I like guns solid in the corner. They went and
got a d tackle, played premium. They bought steph In. Yep,
they boss step fright, step fan dass here. I'm not.
We gotta protect that quarterback. We got Hey, if you
got a bunch of money, somebody got a cup provide security,
O sir. I think I think it's gonna be the
offensive tackle from uh from a l s U will
(44:48):
How what what's Bill.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Campbell and the only the only knock plaining about him
having short arms?
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I don't. I think that really has nothing to do
with it being able to play. Did his arm street
when he was in but after he got out of
college kicking everybody exactly. That's what I don't understand. A
guy performed very well in college and then you find
fault with him, like, oh he got short arms, oh
his feet, But he did something to make you even
consider him. You know what they did? I think, oh, Joe,
(45:19):
I think a lot of times they like they try
to find what's wrong with you as old to what's right. Yeah,
but I get it. Hey, I gotta kick the times.
I gotta do it. I gotta do a full inspection
of what's going on with be Kevi. I'm investing a
lot of money in you. These these first three, four players,
five players, they getting full of guaranteed contracts, so cho
fully so Will Campbell. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
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anybody is surprised with that, considering the moves that they
made in the off season. Step By Diggs a wide
receiver they got, went to it, got a big defensive
tackle from the Eagles. Uh pay a premium for him.
That got Gunzald in the corner. I'm not surprised. Let's
protect the quarterback, Let's protect I like it. Yeah. Now,
(46:14):
I think the fourth, the fourth, the top four picks,
I think the only orders. I don't. I don't think
there's really any surprise. I thought cam would go number
one if Cleveland has stayed at too. I was they're
gonna take your door. The Giants was always gonna take
a abdual card available. As we started getting closer to
the draft, we started hearing about Will Campbell to the
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Patriot now with the fifth pick, because Jacksonville traded with Cleveland.
Where does Cleveland go now? Well, Nick Chubbin is not
there right right? Nick Chubb is gone? What about what
about your door? Now? I like it. I was a
toss up though, can it be your door? Can you find?
(46:55):
Can you go? You go to the running back position?
Ve is just high for a running back. But look,
I get the resurgence. So you saw what sat Quan did?
You saw what dead Henry did? You saw what Josh
Jacobs did? You saw? You know you saw Jamiir Gibbs,
Joe Mixon. There are a lot of guys that had success. Yes,
and the running back all of a sudden now is
(47:17):
in bold.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yes, certain running backs and this is the type of
running back that you don't want to pass up, that
you can take at the fifth pick because he can
do so much for you.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
The second most rush yards in college history twenty six
over twenty six hundred yards finished about twenty five twenty eight,
twenty seven yards behind what Barry did. It's a little
high for me, But if you believe he's the guy,
you take it. You take it. I like But I
think we all in agree is that Will Will Campbell
(47:47):
is going to be the fourth pick of the draft.
New England Commission's walking to the Commissions walking to the
moodium now and leave it. He splew the TV up
where this was delay? That was it's Will Campbell. Will
Cavil Okay said we will Campbell j D your door?
(48:25):
How you know? Hey? I asked, what did they say
to that dream?
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Where?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
What we got? What do we got? Hey? Mason Graham, Oh,
the d tackle from Michigan. Be nice, be nice? Okay,
we got a guest coming. We got a guest joining
us out here in about five minutes. The human Joystick
(48:51):
Dante Hall, the Great returner from Kansas City. Punt and
kick return of tremendous slot receiver six' five three. Nineteen
his arms are. Short you can see, that but look at.
It let's. See but look how he plays great place
kickstep great uh, ah doesn't over. Extend, WOW i like.
(49:14):
That okay, Kick let's. See let's see what he got On? Joe,
oh pass it? Off? OH i like?
Speaker 4 (49:19):
That go?
Speaker 1 (49:20):
ON i like this drunk old look at? Him sit,
down ain't? Good, DOWN i can't sit down on. This oh,
no oh my, GOODNESS i loved. It, okay let's. See
let's see how he snapped this off Old. Joe, oh, oh,
yes that's call. Luck oh, yeah look at him climb he.
(49:42):
Nice look at. THIS i like his, base powerful, hands
and but they're plain about it. Wrong he's. Strong, hey
look at. It you see how he's strong with that
outside hand, yessir because he KNOWS i can't let you
spend back. Inside if you run around this, block you're
not gonna be able to get that cause it's an inside.
Run he's strong with. This look at, this get his feet.
Inside keep. Dropping oh oh, Damn. Kate, hey that's a
(50:04):
full stack of pancakes right. There AND i like the.
SUIT i like.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
THAT i like.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
It, HEY i like the green with the chalk's right.
There you're gonna will up, there you go. CLEAN i
like the. Cash, look, HEY i like the. Sneakers he
wann't be. OVER i like. THIS i LIKE i like.
THIS i guess everybody getting away from lifting the commission
(50:32):
up they wire to add a great. Run it's. Coming
you think it's coming back, Coming it's, Coming it's, Coming Will,
CAMPBELL i see you got THE pepsi. ON i like
this pic On. Joe it's a good. One look you
Got Drake. May Drake may is your. Money you need,
something something to protect your. Money you need. Security you
(50:54):
gotta protect your, money gotta protect you every. Time SO
i LIKE i like this. Pic yep Get. Raves, LOOK
i think The. Patriots, look we might not agree. That
uh the coach didn't have enough, time, right but, Look
(51:15):
frable was not gonna be available next. Year, no so
you had to make a. Move you got to make a.
Move and plus a mail, guy he got four more
years on that. Contract, HEY I i ain't looking for a. Job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's that's gonna make very interesting for the A fcs
to see if the if The patriots can get back
to competing at a high level the way they used.
To NOW i, DON'T i. Don't i'm not sure how
far off they are from competing or continuing against the.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Bill Bill's, yeah but it's a. Start, yeah gotta crawl.
This you gotta crawl before you. Want how much better
in year two With drake may be than your? One
Because Josh allon is YOU, Mvp so we know he's
priming the. Crop he's, top he's He's tier, One okay TO?
U can he stay? Healthy, yes that's that is probably
(52:07):
the most important. Question Can tua stay? Healthy and then The,
jets The jeffs got justin. Fields, wait the pick is in.
Already brown's pick is in what we Got howard hey
(52:31):
Boy de tacking From, Michigan. Michigan, Yeah i'm. Not I'M
i Thought shador might sneak in here at five right,
now is somebody to get interested hold on The raiders at? Six? Right? Yeah,
(52:56):
okay SO i was. RIGHT i was. RIGHT i, like you, Know,
LOVE i really like this pig because you, know they
got some they got they got good running, backs not great,
(53:17):
intewing they got. Good BUT i think the main thing
is you want protect you From Drake. Maye that's the.
Guy you gotta protect him and allow him to throw
the ball down the field because to be if you,
can especially in today's, game which is past, oriented everything's
about throwing the. Ball, yes you got to be able
to protect. Him you got to be able to PROTECT
i like The Stefan. DIGGS i like. That at our.
Signing we'll see how close he is week one and
(53:40):
might he still you, know they might put him on
the puck and he has to. Work the pick is
in what we. Got what we got On, Joe they're
Going they're going to big, boys big boy From. Michigan.
(54:04):
Wow you have him a. Player, man he's. Good he's,
good really.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Good preparing him With Miles garrett being a destructor up
in the, middle being able to stop, obviously and this
distruct obviously some of those teams in THE afc and
then The. Ravens, YEAH i Think.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Bengals. YEAH i like the fact That Miles garrett can
get to the. Quarterback BUT i like the fact THAT
i got a big guy inside and start getting hear
me up the. Middle that's that's a good. One six three.
Five he plays with great Pad. Levite, YEAH i mean
he has Tremendous look at over move bad he? Twitchy, now,
(54:53):
yeah look at. This he plays with great Pad. Live
look at this. Press, OH i got you let me get.
That hey you see? That hey you see? That, yeah that's.
That that was. Nice that was. Nice get on the,
hedge tackle for a. Lost, okay he's. Different now he's
in the. Three now he's in that Cor, oh snatch
(55:16):
snatched full. Again come look at this straight bull. POWER
i show three different, cutups so You i've seen three different.
MOVES i see the snatch rip AND i see the
straight bull he got he. Got you got a nice
little bag on. Him, man he, does got a nice
(55:37):
little bag on, him and to see the thing is,
wild like defensive tackles like this because they're closer to
the quarterback than the Age. Russia so he he he's
two yards away from the. Quarterback quarterbacks gotta be the
guards gotta be really special to deal with. Him, yeah
because he got A Aaron donald had a bag like. That,
yeah he's Not Aaron donaland, no BUT i just, said
(55:57):
BUT i saw three SNAP i saw three, cutups so,
ya AND i saw three different.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Moves but also what we saw obviously in college he
was one of one most of the, Time, yes most
of the, time with him being that boy get double team,
down hold on you.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Will double him with you and double Miles. Gary that's
a that's a good ONE jt to The. Raiders how you,
KNOW i got a little it got a little we
got a little birdie in the green. Room it's, Uh Mason,
(56:32):
graham he got what you call, him, man he GOT
i like. HIM i like his pick O, JOE i like.
IT i mean watch watching him on that cut all
those cut.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Ups when you watch, film you always want to stand, out, yes,
Yeah and when you watch film and see these picks
that are going.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
High you understand why they went. High absolutely. ABSOLUTELY i
don't think any anybody is. Surprised uh this pick. Is
but now once we get past, genty because they've been
a lot of talk over the last say three to
four days about genty going to The. Raiders so him
going to The, RAIDERS i don't think that's gonna shock
(57:12):
a whole lot of. People, Uh brady wants to protect
geno wide. Receiver Who, look they got Brock, bowers they
got was you are three best titles in all the.
Football but you need somebody on the outside of you
to take some pressure. OFF i, like, LIKE i like
brother McMillan from From Arizona. State he ain't gonna be
(57:34):
there when you cause you got only one pick You
if you take, genty you're not gonna be able to get.
McMillan i don't think he's sliding out of the first.
Round he nice big. Target how much time we got
on the, Clock, ash we got five. Minutes, Still, LOOK
i DON'T i think it's gonna be. GENTY i heard a.
(57:56):
LOT i mean over the last the last four or five,
days there's been a lot of talking about. Gents they
got a. Quarterback they Extended. GENO i like rock bars
at the tighty end. Position they need a running. Back
they Lost Josh. Jacobs he came here and this, side
the type of, saw the type of season that he.
HAD i think it's gonna be a running. Back, hey,
look it's a copy cat. League look it. Up basically
(58:17):
all the teams that had him out standing running, back
they win the playoffs as the gentit it's live. Everything oh,
yo think about, it your top your top four to
five running. Back Sat que won The Super, Bowl Dack
henry in the, Playoffs Joe mixon in the, Playoffs Josh
(58:39):
jacobs in the, Playoffs Jamier gills in the. Playoffs copy cat. League,
hey let's go get a running. Back and, also WHEN
i think about, it what The raiders are. Doing, ALSO
i don't see any premier receivers on their. Team, no
but what can we? Do how can we help? Gee
how can we? Help? You? Know?
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Smith give you a running back like? This it takes
him to fish off for you for the lack of.
Production now we're gonna get on the. OUTSIDE i like.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
IT i like this, pick but boy, a they gotta
get some receivers, Now, YES i don't know if there's
any receivers left on the fringe of Market, oho but
maybe uh, Uh i'm going. Heavy, yeah second third, Round
i'm going. Receiver you gotta get something that For gino
(59:23):
to throw to. You GOT i, agree you can run with.
Power got grace be tremendous, ballace nice step, fall great,
vision run through. CONTACT i like. IT i like it's
(59:49):
down Low, Joe he's got it straight.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
Up and the funny thing some, people some, people some
people were talking, about you, know the level of competition
that he plays against is not, high but would it
pain time to playing some of the big schools played Against,
Oregon he with almost two hundred on, over did the
same thing in regardless of the competition he played.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Against, YEAH i think the thing, is, oh your, look
he's gonna have better teammates around. It oh, yeah well
definitely then what he had At boise And. State and
that's not the Discount boys And. State but you, know Brock,
bowers it's better than the tight end that he. Had
the Quarterback geno is better than the quarterback he, Had
so he has better players around. HIM i think he'll
(01:00:27):
do a lot. Better but obviously the defenses he's going
against is gonna be a lot better than the, defense
a lot. FASTER i like. IT i like this, pick
very good. Pick who's on the clock at? Seven as
you gonna? Cut? Jets Oh, jets, wait they already got justin?
Fields you got justin. FIELDS i all only got it
(01:00:48):
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a minute, wait a minute, can you hear me before
I Before.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I start, I need you to repeat at to me. Okay,
I said, repeat after me. Hello, I fucking love you.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Let's go the Tennessee. Look, this is the worst kept
secret of the America guys. But they canceled all the
other pre draft workouts and said after they worked at
Camp Ward they tramvis found you, but no thank you
your door, thank you, but no thank you. All those
(04:52):
other guys, I think they've sentled their guy. When you
become this set on your guy, you have him targeted.
You've been watching him for a long pier time. You
want this guy to come in and start this is
not well, let's see wait till the last minute, let's
look at it. Come to other guys. Oh, Joe, this
is the guy they targeted, right, this is the guy
they want. They believe, this is the guy that's gonna
(05:13):
be their Steve McNair. Get them back and play off
contentent year after year, get them to a Super Bowl.
What is it that you like so much about cam Ward?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I like what cam was able to do for the Hurricanes.
Able to have you back to the seratives where they
were a top team, got usually the office look very good.
See him as a trend.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
A gnerational talent or type. It's there. I like him.
He's been able to do so. I'm not sure what's
gonna happen once he gets there.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Obviously, he's their answer and he's supposed to be the
answer for the next ten.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Years, similar to what Jane Daniels did for the Commanders.
I'm excited. You know what I like most about cam
Ward adversity. Yes, he just didn't go to one university.
He started at at Matt Cannon. He goes all over
the place and then he settles into the University of Miami.
You want guys that have had adversity in their life.
You want guys that have gone through things cruggle because
(06:05):
it's going to be a struggle at some point in time.
You're gonna face adversity as a quarterback. Why he even
a player in the NFL and having gone through that adversity,
he knows what it's like to fall on hard times.
Nick himself up and start back down there. I have
a question for you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, if cam Ward those does go number one, is
he a date one starter or is a quarterback competition
with Will Levison in camp Well, they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
The quarterback competition, but camp Ward because they singled him
out so long ago, O Jam. They didn't bring anybody
else in. They knew they wanted a quarterback, and they
knew in order for you to win in this league,
you got to have a quarterback. The reason, think about it,
why did the quarterback competition? We're picking number one of
all because the quarterback that's on the roster wasn't any
good or it wasn't very good, let's be real with it.
(06:50):
Because the fe was that good, they would be picking
this high. Yes, the pure fact that they're picking this
high and they're taking a quarterback tells you they want
to transition and go to camp Ward. Now, what happened
to the pull a WOOLI of oar eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They have everybody thinking they're taking cam Ward first, and
they pull a wool and do something else with the
first pick of the draft.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't believe they're gonna do anything different, though, children
let me tell you why they It seemed like they've
been set on this pick for such a long time. Yeah,
and when you're picking this high and you're gonna guarantee
this guy somewhere between forty and forty five million, that's
his contract is gonna be fully guaranteed. I would have
liked the thought that if you wanted it was thinking
(07:26):
about going somewhere else, and you bring somebody else in,
talk to him, get a feel for him. They could,
they could, right, But I don't believe that's the case.
I believe cam Ward is there guy. This is the
funny thing about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
If you have the number one pick, you really don't
have to talk to anybody else because you already know
who you're taking. Regardless, they don't know what their plans are,
especially in the war room. Yeah, sometimes you know how
they play you never know. It's a chance a chess match,
So I'm curious. I'm excited if Cam Wored does go
to Tennessee. I wish him nothing but the best at
number two. When would y'all like to see who woo
going number two?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Crown, Yeah, Travis Hudder, ab Dual Carter, Yeah, I think
it's I think it's a two horse race for number two.
I think it's Travis Hunter that Dual Carter. Obviously, Travis
is a two way player. He'll give you offense, he
can give you defense. Ab Dual Carter is an edge
rushing twelve sacks this past season. Buys a lot of
people Michael Parson, Lebar Arrington, or that streat linebacker lineage
(08:21):
that comes out of Penn State University. He's gonna be
very big interesting to see. The third is where it
starts to get interested. I think, you know what I
think the first two picks, I think they're kind of
I'm not gonna say echeton Stone, but the guy's carving.
I think he's already to see.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, actually, I don't think number three might be different
based on who goes number two. If travers, if they go,
if they go defense, you go with the two way player.
I say, Travis Hunter goes number two. Yes, then it's
it's a it's a toss up. That's number three? Can
it be ab Dual Carter? Do the Giants need another?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Even is in there already? Have to go? Go with
Keevon Thibodeau? Yes, what about Shador because they still don't
have a ma goes with Lawrence to de tackle. But
here's the thing, o, Joe, you really need somebody to
compete in that division at the quarterback position. Okay, they
got Russ? Is that enough to hold it? It's only
one year. I know they got Jamis, but that's only
(09:15):
one year. Jane Daniels Jalen Hurts. Yes, Dak Prescott. If
you go back and look at what happened in the Raiders,
you got uh Pat Mahomes, you got Bowl Nicks, you
got you got Justin Hurbler. Yeah, and now you got that, Joe.
You see, the Raiders really needed They knew they needed
(09:36):
a quarterback because you got it's a quarterback heavy division, right,
The NFC East is a quarterback heavy division. Now the
question is do you want to match fire with fire
or do you want somebody to go extinguish that fire.
That's the question. A defensive player can only impact the
game so much. You see, what the what? What the
Philly hell? Defense? A defense? Collectively though as a whole,
(10:01):
why is a hole? You hear chirps Washington's truck and
play four? Go up? No, didn't play for t J Watt. Okay,
that'd be that'd be nice. So I think I think
it starts to get interested in getting three once we
get to three, and okay, it's gonna really start to
get interested in four, five, six, seven, eight, the top ten.
(10:22):
It's gonna be a listening to the Adam Schefter. I
think somebody else said it. More teams are interested in
moving down, yeah, and moving up.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think we don't have We don't have a really
exciting draft class. Outside of maybe the top three. There
aren't too many players that really that are really a track.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What are you're saying? Okay, you got Devil Clark? Oh, okay,
don't not go, don't pack go. Don't he going number one?
That's the face when you're going number one. Sure I
(11:04):
can help, he's like bad observing. But they've done a
great job of holding it in O doubt because you
don't want to rob him without excitement. You ain't let
him have that moment. Letter aylet call Amy's me. I'm
just calling hey, what you doing? What you have for lunch?
What you have for breakfast today? You see Travis Hunter
(11:25):
in the pink? Is that pink? Confusion?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
That that's that's pink. Okay, that's pink. I'm excited for Trap.
I'm excited for Trap, especially wherever he goes. I'm hoping
the organization knows that he would love to play both
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I hope they grant him that grace.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Being that's what he was able to do at Colorado.
I'm excited for him. I don't know where he goes.
I would like, you know what I would like, But
I would like for Jerry Jones to make us flash
by not talking to the media but moving up the
draft and going to get Travis Hunter at number two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I like that. Oh boy, you got to give up
so much. I think the count that you might as well,
you might as well. I mean, I just empathetic speaking.
I think it would be done. Jerry says he's had
something brewing on the trade market. That's what Jerry said.
Jerry says he got too too big fish in the
fire right now. If it might be it, If I'm Jerry,
(12:13):
I go try to get Tyreek. Oh that's another go.
And that's a go. I like that. I like that.
Tyreeke Tyreek and CD Tyreek and CD tip Tyreek outside
CD in the slide. You got Javonte Williams at running back.
He came over from the Broncos. I think they're gonna
probably they need to do something at the offensive line.
Zach Martin retired. The offensive line wasn't very good last year.
(12:35):
They were beat up. Terry Steele is there. They got
the Smith kid, but they need they need some quality.
That got hit a little bit too much. And the
running game was non existed. I don't know if they
weren't very good at the running game or they didn't
put an emphasis enough on the running game, but they
definitely need to improve the running game in the offensive line. Yes,
think it. So do you think they pulled a switching
(12:57):
row on us? I might think so. I don't know what.
I I don't know why I can feel it. What
do y'all think? Who do you think you're gonna be
the first pick? Damn? Travis you think, Travis, You think Cam?
Who you got? Who you got? Normal? Who you got
(13:19):
going number one? Travis? You think? So we want to
make a bet that's beat twenty bucks. Let's bet twenty
bucks me and you. I ain't gonna pay you, but
let's bet don't he don't pay. Don't Patty, don't pat Hy,
He don't pay. He been on me thinking two hundred
for six months. Oh, come on, now it's time. Ay
(13:41):
what we don't normally be late? Normally I'm gonna cark.
There's three minutes. Well, I hear the commissioner. The commissioner
normally comes to the podium. Welcome to the twenty twenty
five NFL draft. Welcome the clock. How long o' clock go?
I think it's ten minutes in this Okay, I ask
you in my ear? How long? What we want to
(14:01):
make a bet? I'm going camp? He's going camp. He
got camp. Look at commission the bike I got hey,
look at commission on the bike. He tripping. That's the
green that's the Green Bay training camp tradition. Hold on,
you got I got trappers? How they're going first? Let's
bet Freddie Ben Freddy Dan? All right, lord he commiss
(14:24):
probably hadn't rolled the bike, hadn't rolled the bike in
twenty years. Thirty forty, beg you forty And they got
a little waging on the bike wing Yeah, okay, little
weighing on the bike with uthers. Ah, let's go, come on,
Louis got come on, what we got? Come on? Commiss
(14:54):
got on sneakers. See that's all a j No Matthews
Junior Clay Matthews Jr. They looked at he Does they
still doing the commission? You know that after all these years? Yes? Actually,
(15:18):
actually they're buing the owners. But he had to go
out there in front of them. Remember what we talked
about Niko.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Harrison's right father, the song for that, Yeah, most definitely. Hey,
are you nervous to lose that twenty all right? Matter
of fact, you don't even have to pay me after this.
You got to treat me to dinner? No, I want
(15:44):
to go to Tanners all right?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bett? Can you hear? Can you hear commission talking? No?
I can't either.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I was wondering why can't we I thought we was
gonna be able to hear. Oh, we'll turn the TVF
so we can hear. I mean I'd like to watch
the games in sound, but I want to hit the
(16:15):
Pinks in real time. Hey, thank you? No raps h yes, no,
he's a Broncos. He's a Bronco raby No, no bot. Hey,
you're a Raven fan? Hey, why are you here? Come
(16:35):
on mann? Oh you're a Raven fan too. Listen.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You know I still love you, but everybody LIFs have flaws.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's one of yours. It's cool. Hey, hold on, who's
better the Ravens and the Bengals? Right now? You want
to make a bet this year? Bet twenty dollars the yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes,
(17:11):
eight out of you in mayor not not too loud,
not too loud. Huh, that's a good one. That's a
(17:43):
good one. I don't know if the President actually said that,
but that was pretty good. So so as Commission announced
that the Titans on the clock down. Here we go,
Here we go. Come on, Roger, he can speed this
(18:06):
up if you just go ahead. Announced the pick.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yes and more mm hmm man, let's go me three
Titans on the clock.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Do we have any Titans fans here? Oh you're by
yourself Titan fans? No, that says Vikings. Hey, Warren Moon.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Warren Moon said that if cam Get goes to the Titan,
he will take the number one out of retirement and
let it allow him to wear it. That's dope, that's live.
So here it is, yeah, quarterback, two differensive players. I
(19:06):
don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I just have a feeling they gonna pull a fast one,
you think so, Joe, I can?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I can? I have a feeling out. I don't know why.
Why let mention this? Why would you take travel? You
ain't got nobody to getting the ball? You don't think
they did?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Will Levis another year they've only he really hasn't had
a really an actual chance.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think they would. But he keeps making the same mistakes. Right,
That's that's what eats. That's what Buck coaches, right see, Okay, wow,
(19:47):
h okay, all right, yeah, all right. Listen to Adams
Cheff to talk. He says that the Tennessee Titans was
sold on Cam war thet the Giant said we will
(20:08):
switch sponsor with you at three and give you and
other draft picks.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So that's so little fire as Cam going one. Yeah,
it looks like I lost the bet, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hey, he don't look look at it. He got the
phone up to his zero shoe. Allow him to have
that moment. Oh you wanted to sign? Huh wait you
(20:42):
want me signed that one of the one I give you?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Hey, you got got two dollars, got dollars. Somebody gotta
ad Shelley. I'm betting money. I ain't even got a bet.
I'm getting you money now, hold on. Wow, yeah, you
(21:10):
got to do a better job.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Wow. Mail Capra seems to be sold more on your
door than cam Ward. But it's too late now the
haze in the barn, Cam's going number one overall. How
you betting my money? He betting my money? It's yours,
You're that's mine. I owe you fitted you out there
(21:37):
in twenty dollars now with a fifteen percent time for it.
You owe me more than that. Boy. Mail is really
sold on your door. I think the one thing of
(21:57):
watching him, oh Joe, he got do a better job
of getting the ball out he takes. He takes a
lot of sacks all the A lot of times the
quarterback gets sacks. People automatically think it's the offensive line right.
Sometimes you got to know when to hold him, know
when to motive. Sometimes don't get your team in second
and long, third and long. Sometimes, don't take your team
out of field goal range. Get the ball out. It's
okay to live to see another day. But be smart. Yes,
(22:19):
you know, if you field goal range, don't take a sack,
throw it out, throw it out a bound. If you
know your second and short, don't be third long. Just
don't do anything stupid. He talked a great job of
protecting the ball, but sometimes I think he's too casts long.
You've got to have some risk in order to be
successful in the beat. I think I think he's gonna
be okay. I don't like what the meeting and the
puns have done to us.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, they beat him up. They're beating him up
really bad based on him being confident. That's one of
the few things that you do need to play at
the highest level is you got to have beliefs. You
got to be confident in your skills and what you're
able to do. Coming out and saying if you want
a franchise changing quarterback, you come and get me.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that all.
What was he supposed to say, if you want a franchise,
you change your quarterback, don't come get me, don't draft me.
If you want to win your division, you want to
go to the playoffs, don't take me. Of course, that's
what he's supposed to say. I do like Cam. He
do have great est capabilities. Look, I think we all
can agree that Cam is a better athlete than your door. Yeah,
(23:14):
but that doesn't mean your door can't play in the NFL.
Peyton Manny wasn't the greatest athlete. I'm not saying your
door is gonna be that. I'm not saying he's gonna
be Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Rivers. But there's room for
guys that are not athletic. As athletic and say Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Or a.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Who's the guy in Buffalo, Josh Allen, because they're supremely athletes.
That doesn't mean a guy that's not as athletic can't
get the job done.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But then there are other attributes the fact that he's
not as athletic. There are other things to his game
that's much better at his precision zagers, his ability to
process very fast outside of holding the ball too long
sometimes waiting on things to developed.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Sometimes there's one a quarterback. What you can't see with
a quarterback. That makes him great because you look at
Tom Brady. He didn't have anything, no big arm, he
couldn't not he couldn't run very fast, he didn't have
the muscular body. But what he had here, what he
had here, Yeah, replaced everything, replaced everything else. So sometimes
it's the intangibles as opposed to the tangibles. How much
(24:18):
time on the clock. We got the pickets, the pigs
in picks in picks in. Well, we're about to find
out the pisid got won my twenty bucks, Travis Hunerd. No, yeah, look,
(24:43):
I just see anybody else put the phone up to
the aerial show. How did see tramp put the phone
up to his ear? Yeah, I didn't see a Dudale
car to put the phone up to his ear. Wait,
that might that might have been a trick though. That
might have been a trick man who plays on the phone. Harry,
Come now, what the Tennessee Titans select from the University
(25:13):
of Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Okay, okay, you're right, you're right, good pick I damn it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, guys, I don't think there was much of surprise here.
When they turned down all other busits and workouts. They
wrote in them that guy I'll tell, oh, tell, it's
you know what it's like. It's like, you know the
kind of car you won't Why are you gonna go
test driving? Waste the people time, test driving something that
(25:55):
you know you aren't gonna buy. You're right, You're right.
I got your mind made up. Put this up a Ferrari,
a lad a g Wagon or a coloring and whatever
the case may be. When you have your mindset, don't
go waste them. What time to but let me test
drive this, Let me test drive there? Oh we got
a trailer ern Oh, Joe, wait, what are we? What
are trading the cowboys? I guarantee you Jacksonville. No, they're
(26:16):
going to get They're going to get. They going to trial.
Ain't going to get trapped? Wait, travist, what if they
shock you and they get asked? Duel Carter? No, no, no,
asked the gent Yn Jens joke. No ooh, I don't
know what, Joe, hold on? You going?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You going to get up a running back? All listen,
I just heard about Jacksonville. I just heard about Jacksonville.
Always wanted to ask Jenny. I heard it all fixed right see.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Wow, wow, Hey, I thought we'd get interested that once
we got past three three oh, the DRAMs started at John.
That changes up everything. Now though it does up everything,
don't me tell you what it changes up at Who
goes to That's what changes. Right? If they take.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Genty wait they got they got etn right, That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's why I think it makes sense for me to
take Travis Hunter because you can play the more offense
and defense. Now you get a package together, right. Hey,
he plays as many snaps as he can handle on
that defense. Huh, and you got a nice little package
for him more offense. I like it if Travis Hunter
is the pick, right, I think if Genji's the pick. Also,
(27:36):
I look at I look at Philly. I look at
what say Khon was able to do for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And I see ask the gense in that same light,
being able to run the ball, being able to be
a three down backing and passer, take and catch the
ball out the backfield. He could do some of those things.
I'm not sure. I don't know what they could do
with the number two pick Travis Hunter. It is nice,
but I would have much preferred him somewhere else in
the bigger market New York. I would have loved him
in New York, and obviously in Cleveland opposite side of
(28:01):
the dizzel ward and obviously doing.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Some stuff on offense, opposite the judy. Yeah, but I mean,
where do y'all think jackson Where is Jacksonville going with
the number two pick? Now, Travis Hunter? I think Travis too?
Where if you going number two pick Travis Travis, Travis,
Travis Travis, I think so too, O Joe. It makes
(28:27):
it makes sense because house where you gonna get him,
gotta go up tear it too. He wasn't gonna be there, Nona,
because then there's a possibility shoot somebody shoot on past
three and take it two to make a trade with
the giants to take it. I think it's gonna be
Travis Hunter. I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm surprised. Like
(28:50):
I said, I won't be surprised if it's Travis Hunter, right,
I'm gonna be shot if it's Ashton j d ain't
ain't no ain't no telling I ain't no telling him.
I mean number two to the ojo a running back
back running he went five, he went to he went
behind Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's right, So why do you think he wouldn't be
the one to go too. He I'm not saying he's
I'm not as special. I'm not saying it.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, people are telling him it's gonna be
Travis Hunter. I like it, like it. We got a
spy in the cream room. Travis Hunter has been on
the phone with Travis hunting all those they can't they
get the second Oh Joe, The Browns get the fifth
(29:41):
oro row pick the twenty twenty five second and fourth
round picks, and that cheers number one. That's that's nice.
That's up haul, that's a that's nice, Joe. To move
up three spots. Yeah, look at what they gave up
to move up three spots, and you thought the cow
form is gonna move up ten spots.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They get a DNT stadium. That's dope, Travis Hunter, Duval County.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Oh Joe, that's almost a bigger deal as what the
forty nine ers gave up to get Trey Lance. Yeah,
Trey Lance went from it. That didn't work out. No,
I'm but look, Travis is proven. Travis did it at
Jackson State and then said, yeah, but if you had
a bigger school, you couldn't do that. He goes to
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a power for and he did it on both sides
of the fall at a very high level. He was
the Heisman Trophy winner, he was the Blit, the comfort
Ward winner, he was the Girls Kill Award winner. So
there's no question about the ability. The question that people
don't have is can't he play at the level he
played that in college. It's on both sides of the ball.
I think you can.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Like we already talked about, I prefer to see him
at receiver or dB. Maybe them have some have some
packages for him at receiver as a dB. One thing
about it, I know all games are gonna sell out.
You think it was gonna have the number one selling jersey.
This Yeah, Uva County got you a good one. They
got you a good one at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I like it. I like this pick. That's dope. I
like this pick. I'm really liking this pick. To the Jags,
Jaggs knew the guy that they wanted Ojoe, Yes, they
knew the guy that they wanted. Okay, we're gonna have
to give up King's ransom to get up got to
It's sometimes when you want a house, isn't that subdivision.
It's not called the same. Yeah, they got great, great
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schools and that in that districk. Yes, everything is in
close proximity. You gotta pay a little bit of I
have to pay a little extra. It's all about location.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And you have no problem playing extra for that nice
location because you know what you get long term.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yes, know what you get long term. So you got
to thank Resale. I'm gonna reb able to recoup my
money in Travis Hunter easily. People are going to look,
he's from George. It's a short ride from Atlanta to Jacksonville.
I like, I like this pick now. They gave up
a lot to get it, Mojoe. It was worth it.
They gave him a lot to get it. Birth it
absolutely ask how much time we got h the ticket
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and saying coach uh commissions walking back to is that
(32:24):
I don't get it, and he looked in Wow, he was,
uh you the San Francisco two years do what's his name?
The d D D lineless? Oh, I don't know, I
don't know the line of fa. Well, ask what was that?
What's his name? He was as uh h that there
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on stead okay.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
H kah.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Dull little du ball Actually gonna lose his mind. Yeah, absolutely,
mm hmmm. Wow. I don't think anybody saw this pig
(33:37):
coming though, Joe. I don't think anybody saw this trade.
Not the trade, but pick. Yes, he was going to, Yes,
he had to be going to. Yeah. I just didn't
know anybody would jump up if getting like this.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Promise traft. Yeah, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Oh that's live, that's live wide receiver, defensive back.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And he got his dad in his attendance. His dad
was able to get permission O Joe to come see
his son. There, you show show out. That's live. That's great.
The thing you'll go, Joe, webin this young man. Hopefully
your journey starts all over again. There was a journey
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to get to this point. Now your journey starts all
over again, because your journey wasn't just to get here,
it was to thrive here. Most definitely listen. I remember
I remember those days.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Obviously I wasn't able to go to the draft, but
just getting drafted, and just think about all the obstacle
to go.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
To the draft. The military. I was getting ready to
head I was getting ready to head down to the
Air Force recruiter center. Hey, this is dope.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
This is great for Travis, it's great for out the
Jaguars organization.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
That's a that's the dope feeling. Uh hey, hey, there
been skilled guys coming. That came. The skilled guys can't
lift commissioned up like the old life. This is unbelievable.
(35:43):
This is unbelievable right here, all right? Yeah, I like it.
I like it. We got we got the Giants at three. Yeah,
it's gonna be Carter, you think so. Yeah, playing with Thibodeaux,
pairing with Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
But then what's what's she hands the long term at
the quarterback division, if you do go with Thibodeaux, well,
they say they got they believe Rusk can sustain him
for a year.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Uh, they got Jamis. So the thing is they they
want to be able to attack Jalen Hurts, right, they
want to be able to attack Jane Daniels. They want
to be able to attack uh Dak Prescott. So with
that in mind, look you got two edged Russias and
you got one of the premier d tackles, right and
all the football collapse in the pocket on the inside.
(36:31):
I like the pick. I like the pick cause if
I pay it a quarterback at three, oh, Joe, I
got to love it. I gotta love it. But also
in that division, you got to have a quarterback to
be able to go some points.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
And you can go to defense. Let's say you do
go at abdual quarter year. Hey, you're able to stop
all the all the teams that are able to score
at will in your division. Right, but how you gonna
put up points? Well, how are you gonna put up points?
They say they got believed neighbors. Uh, they believe Russ
can get him the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They believe they could probably get a they can get
a who knows they could trade back in and get
one of these receivers. But they I think they believe
about you. They can get a great pick in the
second round. Do you believe they can have Do you
believe they can get a Day two pick, a Day
two wide receiver that's quality.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Absolutely, There's some gems, there's some gyms that aren't out
there that aren't talked about enough that might be able
to come out based on the system that they do run.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Craig, Yeah, the first two picks, I'm not I'm not
surprised at all. No. I mean, you get the get
the premier, you get the Premierre cornerback draft. You get
a top three receiver in the draft, you get the
best athlete in the draft. Yeah, most definitely. I'm not
(37:45):
I'm not surprised at all. Old traft. They got due
Ball Florida in the cap. I like that. Giants picking
(38:06):
figure in, Giants pickers in. I in the green room,
say gonna be abdul What we got? Who we going? Who?
You got a number three? Abdual Carter, Abdua Carter big
on attack, say maybe maybe should do it. I don't know.
(38:26):
I think the thing is they wanted they want to
attack the quarterback. They want to attack the quarterback edge
rushers because think about what what the Philly What the
Philly got? They got Jalen Hursts inside and they got
them edge rushes on the egg they lost, they lost,
you know or what who is it? A sweat? Was
the sweat?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And they have the I forgot young young bull. Yeah
three he end up what he got to uh New England.
But they still but they still they still got ce
De saying the last players were eight plus starts on
office and deep then and that was what ninety five? Yeah,
that was a long long time ago. Yeah, very long.
(39:12):
But you have to understand, though, o Jo, that was
that was time seventh or eighth season, right, That wasn't
this rookie season. Defenses are a little bit more complex.
Offenses are a little bit more complex. Right. But he
told you before you, Oh, they're gonna allow Jackson, Bille
is going going to allow I like, okay, okay, they're
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gonna allow it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The pigg is in Biggs in Giants, Shador Sanders. And
you want to make a bet how much you got
to lose? The man hugging his mom and dad on
the TV up there? Oh real, yeah, and you cheating
you're looking at the TV. Yeah, I told you I spy.
(39:58):
I spy in the ninety There you go.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, many even even pops got on chain. We got barkling.
That ain't gonna fox. That's live. Abdul Carter to the Giants, Look,
(40:23):
he's a two either unanimous all America. The one thing
that the guy, Hey, for the most part, you look
at the Lebard guys that wear that number left having special, special,
special special. Abdual Carter is special. He can heat, he
can transfer speed, the power, he can bend the edge. Hey,
(40:44):
I got no problem with this pic and on that turf,
he's gonna be dynamic, he's gonna be electric. I mean,
I like it, But still I'm thinking about in order
to compete in that especially in that division, you need
somebody at the quarterback. And there's nothing wrong with Russ
then no disrespect the Russ and no dispector Jamis as well.
But to compete in that division, you need a transcending talent,
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someone to set you ahead of the schedule by a decade.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Okay, I don't see I like you doing. I don't understand.
I don't know what the scout seeing. I don't know
the gyms are looking at.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
But I see I saw him do that.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Jackson Stadt again, what you got special handshake?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, they had a special handshake or they practiced that. Yeah,
they did, absolutely, they practiced that. I think everybody is
happy with the first three picks on Joe. I think
every fan base is really happy with those picks.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Hey, you can't go wrong, you can't for the first five,
you really can't go wrong.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
And for I think the Patriots said for everybody had
them Pegg there to take offensive lineman, the big offensive
lineman on the l s U. Yeah, Will Campbell. Yeah,
our spies tell us that Will Campbell is on the
phone with somebody. I don't think I don't think it's
a there's a his accountant. But that is that's a
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great pick, man, that's a great pick. Look at this
the great time. Oh, that's how you do it. You unload.
Look at this, Hey, run it back. You better step up,
you better step up. Oh, let me get that great
tip dropping coverage with this. Look at this, spying spies, spies,
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look at this, Look at this clothing speed give me that.
But this is where he excels at right here, o Joe,
Look at this, Look at this, Look at this one
side of the field, to the other side of the field.
A TfL tackle for loft. But look at it. Look
at this step boot. That's body Miller, special broken mills.
Where you going low? And yeah, he's specially he can
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be in. You're nice. That's a good pick. Now, I
can't I can't complain. I can't complain. I like it,
O Joe, because everybody else in that division, with the
exception of the Cowboys, had an outstanding defense, at least
they were last year. We saw what Philly did it. Look,
we don't know what's gonna happen with the Commanders. It's
you know, being reported that they're in the running with
(43:12):
for TJ. Watt his bird. Steelers might want to move
try to move up, But I like this pig for them.
I do. I agree with you, now, don't get me wrong.
I agree with you with the quarterback situation. But for
them to go defensive player instead of a quarterback tells me.
I'm not sold on your door. I'm not sold on
Jackson Dark And when you take up a guy that
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you gotta be sold on Joe. Yeah. Matter of fact,
when you pray, when you paid me and your plus
for home, you better be sold. Everything should be ready
for you to move in and your set up shot.
That's it. And he's that type of player. He's a
plug and plate. There's no question they started day one.
They won. He started. Oh the pack want t J.
(44:04):
I think, I think, I think a lot of teams
want t J. You're talking about one of the two
or three best rushers in the NFL. The New England
Patriots are on the clock nine four now. They would
they were they They made his flash. They spend a
lot of money in the season. They spent a lot
of money. They got their quarterback, they got their head coat. Yes, uh,
(44:26):
I like guns solid in the corner. They went and
got a d tackle, played premium. They bought steph In. Yep,
they boss step fright, step fan dass here. I'm not.
We gotta protect that quarterback. We got Hey, if you
got a bunch of money, somebody got a cup provide security,
O sir. I think I think it's gonna be the
offensive tackle from uh from a l s U will
(44:48):
How what what's Bill.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Campbell and the only the only knock plaining about him
having short arms?
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I don't. I think that really has nothing to do
with it being able to play. Did his arm street
when he was in but after he got out of
college kicking everybody exactly. That's what I don't understand. A
guy performed very well in college and then you find
fault with him, like, oh he got short arms, oh
his feet, But he did something to make you even
consider him. You know what they did? I think, oh, Joe,
(45:19):
I think a lot of times they like they try
to find what's wrong with you as old to what's right. Yeah,
but I get it. Hey, I gotta kick the times.
I gotta do it. I gotta do a full inspection
of what's going on with be Kevi. I'm investing a
lot of money in you. These these first three, four players,
five players, they getting full of guaranteed contracts, so cho
fully so Will Campbell. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
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anybody is surprised with that, considering the moves that they
made in the off season. Step By Diggs a wide
receiver they got, went to it, got a big defensive
tackle from the Eagles. Uh pay a premium for him.
That got Gunzald in the corner. I'm not surprised. Let's
protect the quarterback, Let's protect I like it. Yeah. Now,
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I think the fourth, the fourth, the top four picks,
I think the only orders. I don't. I don't think
there's really any surprise. I thought cam would go number
one if Cleveland has stayed at too. I was they're
gonna take your door. The Giants was always gonna take
a abdual card available. As we started getting closer to
the draft, we started hearing about Will Campbell to the
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Patriot now with the fifth pick, because Jacksonville traded with Cleveland.
Where does Cleveland go now? Well, Nick Chubbin is not
there right right? Nick Chubb is gone? What about what
about your door? Now? I like it. I was a
toss up though, can it be your door? Can you find?
(46:55):
Can you go? You go to the running back position?
Ve is just high for a running back. But look,
I get the resurgence. So you saw what sat Quan did?
You saw what dead Henry did? You saw what Josh
Jacobs did? You saw? You know you saw Jamiir Gibbs,
Joe Mixon. There are a lot of guys that had success. Yes,
and the running back all of a sudden now is
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in bold.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yes, certain running backs and this is the type of
running back that you don't want to pass up, that
you can take at the fifth pick because he can
do so much for you.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
The second most rush yards in college history twenty six
over twenty six hundred yards finished about twenty five twenty eight,
twenty seven yards behind what Barry did. It's a little
high for me, But if you believe he's the guy,
you take it. You take it. I like But I
think we all in agree is that Will Will Campbell
(47:47):
is going to be the fourth pick of the draft.
New England Commission's walking to the Commissions walking to the
moodium now and leave it. He splew the TV up
where this was delay? That was it's Will Campbell. Will
Cavil Okay said we will Campbell j D your door?
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How you know? Hey? I asked, what did they say
to that dream?
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Where?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
What we got? What do we got? Hey? Mason Graham, Oh,
the d tackle from Michigan. Be nice, be nice? Okay,
we got a guest coming. We got a guest joining
us out here in about five minutes. The human Joystick
(48:51):
Dante Hall, the Great returner from Kansas City. Punt and
kick return of tremendous slot receiver six' five three. Nineteen
his arms are. Short you can see, that but look at.
It let's. See but look how he plays great place
kickstep great uh, ah doesn't over. Extend, WOW i like.
(49:14):
That okay, Kick let's. See let's see what he got On? Joe,
oh pass it? Off? OH i like?
Speaker 4 (49:19):
That go?
Speaker 1 (49:20):
ON i like this drunk old look at? Him sit,
down ain't? Good, DOWN i can't sit down on. This oh,
no oh my, GOODNESS i loved. It, okay let's. See
let's see how he snapped this off Old. Joe, oh, oh,
yes that's call. Luck oh, yeah look at him climb he.
(49:42):
Nice look at. THIS i like his, base powerful, hands
and but they're plain about it. Wrong he's. Strong, hey
look at. It you see how he's strong with that
outside hand, yessir because he KNOWS i can't let you
spend back. Inside if you run around this, block you're
not gonna be able to get that cause it's an inside.
Run he's strong with. This look at, this get his feet.
Inside keep. Dropping oh oh, Damn. Kate, hey that's a
(50:04):
full stack of pancakes right. There AND i like the.
SUIT i like.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
THAT i like.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
It, HEY i like the green with the chalk's right.
There you're gonna will up, there you go. CLEAN i
like the. Cash, look, HEY i like the. Sneakers he
wann't be. OVER i like. THIS i LIKE i like.
THIS i guess everybody getting away from lifting the commission
(50:32):
up they wire to add a great. Run it's. Coming
you think it's coming back, Coming it's, Coming it's, Coming Will,
CAMPBELL i see you got THE pepsi. ON i like
this pic On. Joe it's a good. One look you
Got Drake. May Drake may is your. Money you need,
something something to protect your. Money you need. Security you
(50:54):
gotta protect your, money gotta protect you every. Time SO
i LIKE i like this. Pic yep Get. Raves, LOOK
i think The. Patriots, look we might not agree. That
uh the coach didn't have enough, time, right but, Look
(51:15):
frable was not gonna be available next. Year, no so
you had to make a. Move you got to make a.
Move and plus a mail, guy he got four more
years on that. Contract, HEY I i ain't looking for a. Job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's that's gonna make very interesting for the A fcs
to see if the if The patriots can get back
to competing at a high level the way they used.
To NOW i, DON'T i. Don't i'm not sure how
far off they are from competing or continuing against the.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Bill Bill's, yeah but it's a. Start, yeah gotta crawl.
This you gotta crawl before you. Want how much better
in year two With drake may be than your? One
Because Josh allon is YOU, Mvp so we know he's
priming the. Crop he's, top he's He's tier, One okay TO?
U can he stay? Healthy, yes that's that is probably
(52:07):
the most important. Question Can tua stay? Healthy and then The,
jets The jeffs got justin. Fields, wait the pick is in.
Already brown's pick is in what we Got howard hey
(52:31):
Boy de tacking From, Michigan. Michigan, Yeah i'm. Not I'M
i Thought shador might sneak in here at five right,
now is somebody to get interested hold on The raiders at? Six? Right? Yeah,
(52:56):
okay SO i was. RIGHT i was. RIGHT i, like you, Know,
LOVE i really like this pig because you, know they
got some they got they got good running, backs not great,
(53:17):
intewing they got. Good BUT i think the main thing
is you want protect you From Drake. Maye that's the.
Guy you gotta protect him and allow him to throw
the ball down the field because to be if you,
can especially in today's, game which is past, oriented everything's
about throwing the. Ball, yes you got to be able
to protect. Him you got to be able to PROTECT
i like The Stefan. DIGGS i like. That at our.
Signing we'll see how close he is week one and
(53:40):
might he still you, know they might put him on
the puck and he has to. Work the pick is
in what we. Got what we got On, Joe they're
Going they're going to big, boys big boy From. Michigan.
(54:04):
Wow you have him a. Player, man he's. Good he's,
good really.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Good preparing him With Miles garrett being a destructor up
in the, middle being able to stop, obviously and this
distruct obviously some of those teams in THE afc and
then The. Ravens, YEAH i Think.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Bengals. YEAH i like the fact That Miles garrett can
get to the. Quarterback BUT i like the fact THAT
i got a big guy inside and start getting hear
me up the. Middle that's that's a good. One six three.
Five he plays with great Pad. Levite, YEAH i mean
he has Tremendous look at over move bad he? Twitchy, now,
(54:53):
yeah look at. This he plays with great Pad. Live
look at this. Press, OH i got you let me get.
That hey you see? That hey you see? That, yeah that's.
That that was. Nice that was. Nice get on the,
hedge tackle for a. Lost, okay he's. Different now he's
in the. Three now he's in that Cor, oh snatch
(55:16):
snatched full. Again come look at this straight bull. POWER
i show three different, cutups so You i've seen three different.
MOVES i see the snatch rip AND i see the
straight bull he got he. Got you got a nice
little bag on. Him, man he, does got a nice
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little bag on, him and to see the thing is,
wild like defensive tackles like this because they're closer to
the quarterback than the Age. Russia so he he he's
two yards away from the. Quarterback quarterbacks gotta be the
guards gotta be really special to deal with. Him, yeah
because he got A Aaron donald had a bag like. That,
yeah he's Not Aaron donaland, no BUT i just, said
(55:57):
BUT i saw three SNAP i saw three, cutups so,
ya AND i saw three different.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Moves but also what we saw obviously in college he
was one of one most of the, Time, yes most
of the, time with him being that boy get double team,
down hold on you.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Will double him with you and double Miles. Gary that's
a that's a good ONE jt to The. Raiders how you,
KNOW i got a little it got a little we
got a little birdie in the green. Room it's, Uh Mason,
(56:32):
graham he got what you call, him, man he GOT
i like. HIM i like his pick O, JOE i like.
IT i mean watch watching him on that cut all
those cut.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Ups when you watch, film you always want to stand, out, yes,
Yeah and when you watch film and see these picks
that are going.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
High you understand why they went. High absolutely. ABSOLUTELY i
don't think any anybody is. Surprised uh this pick. Is
but now once we get past, genty because they've been
a lot of talk over the last say three to
four days about genty going to The. Raiders so him
going to The, RAIDERS i don't think that's gonna shock
(57:12):
a whole lot of. People, Uh brady wants to protect
geno wide. Receiver Who, look they got Brock, bowers they
got was you are three best titles in all the.
Football but you need somebody on the outside of you
to take some pressure. OFF i, like, LIKE i like
brother McMillan from From Arizona. State he ain't gonna be
(57:34):
there when you cause you got only one pick You
if you take, genty you're not gonna be able to get.
McMillan i don't think he's sliding out of the first.
Round he nice big. Target how much time we got
on the, Clock, ash we got five. Minutes, Still, LOOK
i DON'T i think it's gonna be. GENTY i heard a.
(57:56):
LOT i mean over the last the last four or five,
days there's been a lot of talking about. Gents they
got a. Quarterback they Extended. GENO i like rock bars
at the tighty end. Position they need a running. Back
they Lost Josh. Jacobs he came here and this, side
the type of, saw the type of season that he.
HAD i think it's gonna be a running. Back, hey,
look it's a copy cat. League look it. Up basically
(58:17):
all the teams that had him out standing running, back
they win the playoffs as the gentit it's live. Everything oh,
yo think about, it your top your top four to
five running. Back Sat que won The Super, Bowl Dack
henry in the, Playoffs Joe mixon in the, Playoffs Josh
(58:39):
jacobs in the, Playoffs Jamier gills in the. Playoffs copy cat. League,
hey let's go get a running. Back and, also WHEN
i think about, it what The raiders are. Doing, ALSO
i don't see any premier receivers on their. Team, no
but what can we? Do how can we help? Gee
how can we? Help? You? Know?
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Smith give you a running back like? This it takes
him to fish off for you for the lack of.
Production now we're gonna get on the. OUTSIDE i like.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
IT i like this, pick but boy, a they gotta
get some receivers, Now, YES i don't know if there's
any receivers left on the fringe of Market, oho but
maybe uh, Uh i'm going. Heavy, yeah second third, Round
i'm going. Receiver you gotta get something that For gino
(59:23):
to throw to. You GOT i, agree you can run with.
Power got grace be tremendous, ballace nice step, fall great,
vision run through. CONTACT i like. IT i like it's
(59:49):
down Low, Joe he's got it straight.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
Up and the funny thing some, people some, people some
people were talking, about you, know the level of competition
that he plays against is not, high but would it
pain time to playing some of the big schools played Against,
Oregon he with almost two hundred on, over did the
same thing in regardless of the competition he played.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Against, YEAH i think the thing, is, oh your, look
he's gonna have better teammates around. It oh, yeah well
definitely then what he had At boise And. State and
that's not the Discount boys And. State but you, know Brock,
bowers it's better than the tight end that he. Had
the Quarterback geno is better than the quarterback he, Had
so he has better players around. HIM i think he'll
(01:00:27):
do a lot. Better but obviously the defenses he's going
against is gonna be a lot better than the, defense
a lot. FASTER i like. IT i like this, pick
very good. Pick who's on the clock at? Seven as
you gonna? Cut? Jets Oh, jets, wait they already got justin?
Fields you got justin. FIELDS i all only got it
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for two. Years what you're? Taking if you The? Jets
what you take Got Gary, Wilson Get Gary. Wilson oh my,
goodness is there a tight end you? Got TIME A
warren rated that? High he does this a whole. State he,
nice that'd be that'd be a nice. Addition you Like
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TYLERWAAREN i do like. HIM i don't know IF i
don't know if The jets like? Him at? Six that's
too high On, YEAH i think. SOMEWHERE i think somewhere
in the, teens, right uh? Huh who we? Got who's going? Seven?
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No septh? PICK i Mean jeff got the seventh? Pickle
why Gent jentsy got great, Balance he got better speed
than you. Think Oh, Joe, yeah he about the same
high as in. IT i think he might be a
little faster than in. It you think, that, yeah but
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even had tremendous. Ballance forget. It if you can put
the ball in. Ahead that's. Fast you can go. Bro,
yeah the volume
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