January 3, 2025 • 35 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from College Football Playoffs including Quinn Ewers and the Texas Longhorns eliminating Cam Skattebo and the Arizona State Sun Devils in a 2OT instant classic, Ryan Day and Ohio State handle Dillon Gabriel and the Oregon Ducks, giving them their only loss of the season, the guys think Quinn Ewers should return to college football next season to work on his game and much more!
00:00 - Texas versus Arizona State Sun Devils
19:52 - Ohio State versus Oregon
27:37 - Quinn Ewers needs to come back to work on his game
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a sun
Devils and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The
number five Texas squad to the sixteen point lead in
the fourth quarter, miss two field goals in the final
two minutes of regulation, and still somehow managed to escape
with the thirty nine thirty one double overtime win over
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the number four seat Arizona State. In the pepot, the
check a late po o jo Hey, I know, sorry
as I just texted him congratulations. Try to get him
on here one of these for the next couple of days,
so maybe we can uh, we can we can get
him on there. He's like, they flying back now, so
(02:14):
or we would have had his ass over. He had
him on here tonight. But man, this was a game,
Oh Jo, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't
nobody trying to see no double digit? Everybody win him
by double.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I thought I thought it was listening the way it
started out. I thought it was on the state was
gonna get blown out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now a fourteen? What was the fourteen? What was the fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But the man, they jumped out on top of them
boy's head. I'm like, oh man, I'm fin the turn
of channel. I'm from the turn of the channel. And then
obviously things started to change, things started to move. And
I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I
don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have
one job, You do one thing the entirey day of practice.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You kicked the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Excess kicker almost cost them almost called Keith field goals
that could have seen the wind. Now they did win
the game, but ain't no telling what what could have happened.
Ain't I'm telling what could have happened that God damn
Cam He you say, young bull laugh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ned to run scatter boat scat scatack? Is it scatterb
because they were they were saying scatable, that's a scapboat.
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I mean, you know what, I'm gonnall him. I'm gonna
call him scat packed. I'm call him scam scam cam
scat pack.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And he's nice boy. He now he's a singer too.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He coming out huh scatib cam scattable, okay, cam scat cam,
scaped back, scatterbo.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're
probably watching the show. Listen. If you don't see it,
I know my son gonna let you know. For you
the real deal boy, you and me, he will see
huh yeah, I think he'll see you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well we have you know you belong you belong you.
He run the ball like he belonged to. He's supposed
play for the Ravens of the Browns.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, he's gonna be a rare. He's gonna be one
of the white running back. They don't cople but normally
would that couple.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know, you know he he's gonna be like I mean,
I give you a good name right here.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Tell me if you remember this Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, little Peyton Hellis, don't keep up. Run hard if
you're getting the where he gets shakey a little bit.
He got he got a little he got a little
little move to him.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Now, well you remember Hillis was in that backfield with
Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to the
winter the Cowboys. What's the other guy named? I mean
they would they were doing it, you matter Fadden and uh,
what's this? I can't think of the guy's name. What's
(04:55):
what's the guy's name? God, I know, y'all people talking
about Toby Gerhart. Uh the old cardinal Stanford Cardinal. What's up?
He was at Arkansas? Phelix Jones, Jones, Yeah, Derren McFadden,
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Yes all they was in the backfield, yeah, yes, yes, Uh,
but this is where game is supposed to be. Quinn,
youres twenty of thirty three thirty three twenty two three
touchdowns one of the exceptions. Uh, they didn't run the
ball particularly well. Thirty carries fifty three yards, Golden had
a big catch, Uh saym for buck forty nine, Helm
had three for fifty six and uh m oh, Joe,
(05:48):
I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kind
of I think they kind of let this one go.
You can't let that guy get over your head in
that situation, O Joe. That that that touch down, that
first touched down in ot Oh Jo, you can't, lady,
you mean that, you just that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Should have been the number one rule from the coach.
Keep everything in front of you, everything, the.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Number rule, O Joe, the number one rule late in
the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep, keeping it front
of eight. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if
he catch it. I don't care if he catches fifty
yard right in front of me. It's when you try
to be the hero and get you a cheap yep
that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you
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the last line of defense. If he's even with you,
you're wrong, mister rap he Oh Joe, it was thawed
down with the thirteen. Oh Joe, you cannot give that up.
You can't. Oh, oh Joe, my heels on the gold line.
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I'm figuring about figure. I think they throw the hairburry,
Oh Joe, I throw the gold line by heels on
the gold line, knock get down knock get down. You're
not get maaed r I you cheap job. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I don't want to I don't even want to blame
the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a
player in that situation, you got to have some type
of awareness, some type of weardeness and understanding, understand the
situation that you're in and know you just you can't
be you can't get beat, not in that situation at all.
And if if I am, let him make a great play,
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but let me be in position, you don't make the play.
At least let me be in position and he have
to make a great play in or to catch that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Man. I was like, oh my goodness, oh fourth and thirteen,
you give up that? Uh. But I think Arizona State
showed that they belong to Everybody was like, well, they
didn't belong that weak conference and they didn't do this,
and this team didn't do that. They played, they gave
Texas all they could definitely belong they and or oh Joe,
(08:01):
when you watch Quinn yours what you think you know?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously,
to me, if you have enough, if you have enough,
talent around you. Enough players at this kind of level,
any quarterback can look good. Uh so what kind of
quarterback is Huars Is this type of quarterback to go
(08:27):
to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Where
is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent
around him that to be able to elevate.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't.
And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back,
lets you know, come back where if you wanna come
back to Texas he gonna train.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't see him going to nothing to see the
field before with ars Man arch Yeah, oh no, I
mean he probably if he gonna come back, he's probably
gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt it's Texas
because he's not gonna be arch manning out.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I've been reading I don't know if these
reports are true, O Joe, but I've been reading that
there's some some some team, some some college team got
six million dollars in n IL money for Okay. I
mean that's I just when I just watched him, I'm like, bro,
that ball that he threw that got picked. I'm trying
to figure out the lof the love that he loved it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, the hospital ball, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I still don't know where he was storing it because
the backside safety and the front like who was there?
So I'm just trying to figure out saying, okay, well
who what did you see? What did you what did you?
I know, what did happen on that play right there?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
They ran it in practice multiple times, and in practice
it was open.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
In practice, you know why it was open. You know
why it was open to tell the people at home
what they say. They tell the something the safety to do,
what jump the underneath so we could throw the ball
over your down.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's exactly what he did anyway, instead of understanding of
REDIA coverage, you know, and you're just letting the ball
go and it's not open.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Because that's the that's what happens. What happens is we hey,
you go draw the thing up and then the guy circle, Okay,
we want to throw the ball. Now the guy's running
the scout team say a safety, you dropped the crossing
route and we're gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well,
come game time, hey, can you drop this over? Can
you drunk this over round so we can throw the
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post behind your head. He gonna read it, right, dun,
you should read it. But you see what happens, don't Joe.
When you make your mind up pre snap that you're
throwing the ball, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens.
He had his mind made it. I'm throwing this post
no matter what. Bro Ain't no way you hell. You
read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this
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and then he throws it in like a pot. Yeah,
that's gotta be on the line. But even if it
was on the line. First of all, that was targeted too,
because the backside guy left his feet and hit the
guy in the chest. But then ay, they didn't want
to like, nah, we can't call that target and blah
blah blah because they return the favor because by the
letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they
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didn't want to impact the game in that way. That says, oh,
no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean
they would he would help in the helvet and the
other guy left his feet, he launched. They say, you
can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck
of the shoulder area. He launched, and they say you
can't use your health, your held of the crowd, of
the helvet to make a tackle. He went to help
to heaven with the guy. But it's like, man, we
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can't impa we can't impact this game like this. Here
they pick and choose, They pick and choose the call
of that absolutely right. They got to find some level
of consistency when you're making these calls. Texas had three
hundred and seventy five total yards. Arizona State had five
hundred and ten total rush yard. Texas had fifty three
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Arizona State had two fourteen quinn Ewers was twenty of
thirty three thirty two, three touchdowns, one an aception, sam
Levitt twenty four forty six to twenty two, no touchdown,
one an eception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a
great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, oh Joe,
we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback back, you
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threw that blah blah blah. But you know the defensive guy.
They studied them too. He made a hell of a
play very and he didn't set up with just trying
to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught
it and it's okay. You know, I'm you know, hey
eighty four, you got to make that play. Hey, coach,
you get paid to you think you think Bronco players
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the only way to make money? No, no, And they
studied film and they got coaches to oh okay, yeah,
so hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play.
But you know it's it's the NFL. Everybody can make
a play. I'm gonna want men win more than I lose.
But hey, that guy made a hell of a play
on that interception that to seal this victory on Joe.
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But you can't get beat on four th and thirteen,
Ohoe over the top? Char two. You cannot. You can't.
Ah too, you can't. Nah. I was like, bro, I said,
are you? I said, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That that should have been a conversation had with that
not just the head coach, the defense, the coordinator, the
DV coach, the secondary coach, that the man up upstairs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
In the booth. Don't get bit beat deep, you can't,
you can't nothing, cheat nothing, deep. I am not you. You
will not complete this ball over my head. You're not
because oh you're at worst case scenario I'm gonna make
you line it up and again and try to run
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another series of downs in order to get the ball
in the end zone. Now, the only thing, the only
thing you can hope is that once that guy gets
over your head, either Quinn, you were underthrosh or the
guy dropped the football. But you Hey, now it's out
of your hands. See, I want I want to play
in my hands, don't yo, I want to play in
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my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all
I got to do. Get him on the ground. Well,
you get him on the ground in the end zone,
it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that.
You got to tackle him in the field of play
or push your ass out of minds in order for
you to get a tackle once he in the end zone. God,
it knew me what ojo? Can guys do me a
favorite college kid? If a guy get a first down,
can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do? Hey? Come on, hunk,
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wait a minute and night, come on that you get
that first ooe, the guy got the first to burst down.
When you get that first down, you gotta no I'm
talking about the DF defense. Oh okay, Wow, you got
a big hit on somebody. He got a first down.
Oh I thought I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay, no, no,
I'm like, bro, I'm like, what baby, I miss something?
(14:45):
I said. Let me rewire this because I want to
see what you did. It's still a first down. Now. Look,
look the college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't
mind him celebrating. And plus, o Joe, if you make
a tackle, I'm as a dependent. What's your job make
a tackle? You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean if
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you could, if you could have sacked, yeah, tackle for
a loss. You get a sack, oh Joe, a big
key third down. You know you want to do this.
I get all that, bro, the guy get three four yards,
then you jump up celebrating. Come on now, now we
were doing way too much with this. They're having a
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good time out there. Man. She scatter boo scatter thirty
carries one hundred and forty three yards, two rushing tones down,
eight catches a ninety nine yards. Had that guy and
I pulled his face. Man, he's gonna drag his you
know what into the end zone. O Joe, scatter Bowl
was so outstanding. He was named Peach Bowl Offensive Player
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to Game. You don't see that very often. His name
is Skatpack. Gotta bo cat Pack, Gotta boo scat pack.
Was Pack did something that you don't see very often,
a guy winning defensive winning offensive Player of the game
from a losing team. Yeah, it's only happened, you know.
Jerry West. Jerry West. The first year they gave out
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Finals MVP in nineteen sixty nine, Jerry West won the
award on a losing squad. They lost the championships four
to three in the final game. They lost on their
home court. Again. Now you got to go back to
the ind of football. Chuck Howley. He won Super Bowl
MVP on a losing squad. They lost sixteen thirteen to
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the Coast. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only
time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad
winning an award. Now, I'm not saying that, maybe it's happened.
I don't know. If in baseball and somebody's wonder a
World Series MVP from the losing squad, I don't. I
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have to go way back, but I don't. I don't
remember it. That's what I don't think it's happened and
in the last twenty five thirty years. But it just
goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman
was from the Sun Devils running and catching the footballs
he was, he'd be he belongs.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
When you're able to perform like that against a team
like that, it lets you know you belonged, regardless of
the conference you play in.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh yeah, but you can you can tell guy that
the talent shine the bull. You can tell I mean,
he okay, that's an SEC defense. And he wouldn't got
a book thirty he wouldn't have got a book forty
three on them. And he almost had one hundred yards receiving,
So he had what two hundred and what's that two
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hundred and forty two yards of total offibps hey man
in two touchdowns against an SEC defense. Look good when
you when you go, when you go play and if
you at a small school, O joe, if you play
an upper level, say you go to Division two and
you play FCS or you FCS you play D one,
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the talent is shine through Darius Leonard when he played Clemson,
he was at South Carolina State. Yeah, twenty nine tackles oh,
he could play. I played Georgia Southern. They were the
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one double A national championship. The year we played them,
I dropped two oh two on them. Oh he could play?
He along with the NIA national championship the year before,
I dropped two twenty one on them. Oh damn he
did that. And you know what this is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
This is another conversation that I always like to have.
Where were young players coming out of high school. They're
always so focused on all their offers.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And where they're going.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I say it again, if you really like that,
if you're really like that, and you and you feel
you're as good as you think you are, but these
don't matter where you go. You can put up performances
like that, what you were able to do against better team,
what you were able to do, or being like scat
packed and coming out there and performing very well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know they oo. I think a lot of times
when you cut on the TV and you see that
that horseshoe path, or you see one hundred and eight
thousand at Texas A and M. You see one hundred
thousand at Georgia, you see ninety three thousand at Alabama,
you see one hundred and five thousand at Tennessee. Hey,
kids like I want to play in front of that.
(19:36):
That's all I mean, you know, that's what I want.
That's what I want to see because that's what I
saw on television. I didn't see no HBC. But see,
I understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But then now we go into the issue of Okay,
I want to go to these big schools where they
have players that have been there before me, and then
I get there and they tell me, oh, I got
to wait my turn, or I might not trust to
feel as much because we have so and so and
he has sen you already over you, not about know
what I'm coming in here to compete for the job.
But you mean to tell me he asked you are
over me, so he's probably gonna play before me instead
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of let me have an opportunity to beat him out
regardless of what what what is grade level is juniors.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Matter? Oh they had to play me?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh you think Jeremiah Smith was gonna go to Ohio
State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior
or GENI because they've been there for a two, for three,
three or four years and man, please, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Better get a little out of it there because he
you know who's coming. Hey, hey, they had to play
me on yo. Yeah, oh what you thought? Oh mm hmmm.
I was one of the future freshmen that travel. I
ain't just traveling. Oh you could travel this week, man,
travel to do what stand on the sideline of my
Oh hell god? And and and and In the first game,
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the first game we played on you, our first whole game, man,
I was so embarrassed with you. I called a gold
ball fifty six yards, got tackled on the war Huh,
you got it? My first catch in college. Ho, hold on,
what's your embarrassed for? Man? That for me a fifty
self yard touchdown, not a fifty six yard camps way east.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You gotta stiffy, man, you gotta catch that thing, and
you know, get that get that stiff on back behind him.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
O choe. It felt like, I mean, it felt like
I was running. It felt to me like I was
running the slow booster. I was like, damn, is somebody
pulling the gains on away from me?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Oh, show the game that you just watched. The Ohio
State buck guys took apart the number one team in
the country, the Oregon Ducks forty one one in the
Rose Bowl Oregon. Excuse me, Ohio State gets their revenge.
It was one of their two losses on the season.
They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon,
but tonight there were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set
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the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck eighty
seven and two touchdowns, but this was really a mismatch
from the word jump. And I think this is what's
so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they
can be. Now. This is the team that took away,
took apart the number one team in the country by
twenty by three touchdown, and lost on their own home
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field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns.
That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what
but Ryan, they give him credit. We've been very critical him,
not critical, we were critical of the game that he's lost,
losing to Ohio and losing to Michigan year in and
year out. Having that level of talent that you had.
Think about the quarterbacks that they're saying, think about the
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wide receivers, thinking about the d lineman, think about the
dbs from the Denzel Wards, and the Jeff Okudas and
all those guys that's come out of there, and you
ain't got no national championship, no national championships. All those receivers,
Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Chris o'lavey,
you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those d linemen from
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Chase Young, the Nick Bosa, look at those quarterbacks justin
fields and you had rested soul. What's the guy that
lost his life tragically, Dwayne Atkins? You had the other quarterback.
And so you can understand why people like hold On,
come on, coach Day, you got this level of talent.
They had a top what top six, top seven pig
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last year the offensive tackle position. Like coach Day, you
got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan
and you ain't got no national championship. But all would
be forgiven if he takes this thing and and and
and finish it out. But the Ohio State looked good today,
O Joe. They ran the ball well, they threw the
ball well, they stopped miss I mean, the high powered
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offensive Oregon. It looks very It looked very pedestrian, very mundane.
Did listen. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Maybe maybe I could be wrong, but I think I
think the week the week off, I think it did
more harm than good for him to be as flat
as they look today, as well as organ Is played
all season long, being the number one team in the country,
and the way they showed up to day, that had
to be a little bit of russ. And not only
was it a little bit of russ, but it was
too late and there was no room for the rust
when you're playing somebody like Ohio State, who had a
point to prove losing the first time they met earlier
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in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith.
He said ahead of time that if you played one
on one, hey, if you played one on one, you're
not gonna be able to come me. He went out
there and it did exactly what he was supposed to
do and handle his business. The funny thing about it,
people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith
and how great he is and how good he is,
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and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably
number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.
I've been watching young Bull at shamanad down there in Miami.
You know, for a few years, he'd been like that
in literal league. He was like that at Ohio.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He is like that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still gonna
be like that. He'd been like that for a long time.
Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very very well again,
hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand
and for all the great players that have come through Ohio,
Ohio State they can have, they can hoist that trophy
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, oh c J. Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ.
Shrowd no national championship, Justin Fields no national championship. Dwayne
Haskins no national championship. That's three quarterbacks. Take it in
the first now, o'lave first round pick, Gary Wilson, first
round pick Jackson Smith and JIGBA first round pick, Marvin Harrison,
junior first round pick, Chase Young, the number two pick,
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Nick Bosa, the number two pick, Jeff Okudah Denzel Ward.
Come on, now, o Joe, come on. I mean people,
they make it seem like we just making stuff up.
You got that level of talent year in and year
out and you ain't won no national championship and people like,
oh oh they're being too hard rough and you lose
it to Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think
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that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent
that's coming out year in and year and you're underachieved,
there's no other there, there's no other way around. O
Joe coach day. You did a phenomenal job of having
this team prepared and from the word jump, I have
a question, huh do you still is it?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all
these quality players year in and you're out, Is it's
still unachievement simply because you haven't won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But the seasons happen. Yes, ooe. Think about it. You
got offensive player the year, offensive player to your offensive
player the year. Think about you got quarterbacks C J.
Stroud justin fields and you had Dwayne Haskins insect session.
You think about you have Jaskins, Smith and Jake, but
(26:45):
you had Gary Well, you had a lobby. You had
Marvin Harrison Jr. In six session and a lot of
those guys played together. You had a Chase Young, you
had Nick bof A, jump O Cooter, Denzel Ward. Come on,
I'm bro, that's ten, bro, that's ten first round picks
(27:06):
right there. Man. I said the same thing about Coach Saban.
Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.
I asked Coach Saban this, if you had consistently lost
to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley,
and you got Judy and you got Rugs, and you
got Waddle, and you got Devonte Smith, and you got
(27:28):
a Marik Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got
to her, you got Young, you got what's the guy
that went to New England? Uh Jones? Mack John Matt Jones. Okay,
you got him. Now you got and plus you got
a what's the guy Derrick Henry? And you got n G. Harris,
(27:49):
you got Damien Harrick. Bro And I ain't even talking
about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they
and you don't win on national championship direct even after
a couple of years of coach and Alabama fans, y'all
know this. Even after a couple of years of not
winning the national championship after he had done one four
or five, they say coach Saban had lost his fastball.
(28:09):
That man had got four or five national championships, and
they saying that with the talent you got Cowinny Williams,
and you got Allen and you got all those guys.
SE made you better, A you better you paid when
you have that level of talent, O children, I mean,
think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put
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out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The
only difference is Alabama has has one in the last
fifteen years, has won six national championships, played for another three.
That's the difference between them.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And you know what, I would love to hear espressing
the chat and then probably people that are gonna watch
this after the fact and hear us talk about this
and saying that Ohio State is under achieved based on
the level of talent that they've had in succession there
without winning the national championship. Us to hit rebuffles and
with the not excuses, but the reasons behind why they
having one will be and you know, always find a
(29:07):
way they come up with something. I don't want to
call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on
what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to
hear what they have to say.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Quin Ewers has received a six million dollar offer to
enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL
Draft this spring. According to On three, multiple Power Forward
schools are working to get yours and the portal ahead
of the final of his final year of college eligibility.
(29:38):
Six million for one year, Ojo, you got to come back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He has to come back and continue to work on
his game because when you watch court, when you watch yours,
I need your play to pop out on the screen.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I needed to pop out when you watch it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Joe Burrow in college, you watch to see extrid in college,
when you watch other quarterbacks like the cam Wards, they
pop out on screen.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
There's something special about those individuals. Special. So if he
needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter
where it is, and you know, pop out on I
agree with you. I agree with you, O Joe. I
don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but
I don't see special. I don't see I don't see
(30:22):
man a muscle, a guy that say, like boy, they
get him. He gonna great, He's gonna he's gonna drastically
change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now, let's see,
let's see. I mean he might come back and get better,
because nobody saw that. If you the ask teams that
were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back
for seen year, Joe Burrow didn't see it seemed special.
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But he came back for that year. He was special.
Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come and get
that one year, Mac Jones, ain't no first ain't no
first round there Sometimes look, hey, I don't blame people like,
well look what yes, okay, now can't he make it happen?
You're throwing at Davonte. You got Naja, you got Wattle,
(31:06):
you know, you got a you got a very very
talented team. It just goes to show you just how
good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bitch.
If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman. Hey,
and also look at the talent this this would I
(31:26):
like about Bryce too.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Now we saw him, We saw Bryce win the Heisman,
but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So yeah, he got got to Carolina. You thought something was.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Wrong with him. Then he gets bench. He come back
out to getting benched. I don't know what the hell happened.
I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now
he's back to playing great football. Looked like the Bryce
Young we saw in college, even in losing. He's in
even in losing efforts at the team.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And as a quarterback. He looks completely totally different than
he did when he first All right, he did, he does.
They just need to give him from talent. If you
look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at CJ. Stroud,
Look at what he was throwing the tang Dale, the
Nico Collins, look at what he was throwing to. Okay,
look at Kayler Williams. He got Roman, Dudes, they first
(32:16):
round pick. He got DJ Moore, who just signed a
contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at look at
what uh Daniels? Yeah, Jaydon look at what he's throwing to. Damn.
I mean, y'all want the man to come back? Hey,
I don't care. Even Peyton Peyton Manny had Marvin Harrison
when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had
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Ken Dilger, I mean, and he had Marshall fall crazy yes,
as a rookie. He had two first batlet Hall of
Famers as a rookie. That's a lucky Ken Dilga had
been to Pro Bowls. There's another I forget the guy named,
oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter
(32:57):
of fact, the Calls had two tight ends to make
the Pro Bowl. Mark what's his name? Uh, go back
and look at ninety Teddy stop scratching the couch. Uh.
I can't think of the other. The other brother, he
was a what's that dude's name? Because I traded I
(33:22):
traded helmets with Ken deal get the pro bo one year.
I'm trying to think what year was that shell? I
don't even remember. Yeah, Uh, Pro Bowl tight end death no, no, no,
in like in the nineties. Yeah, Marcus Pollard, thank you
(33:45):
chat Marcus focus Pollard. I remember, I remember Marcus Pollard
and I ain't heard that name in a minute. Man.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out
here and you spect tracing the thing, but go back
and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they
were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became
the start, y'all know who he throwing to. Right, he
had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.
Can I interest you in any of those guys. Two
of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.
(34:16):
Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big
Ben had to throw to. No, look what he's always
always had to throw to. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, The Pittsburgh Stealers are just like Cincinnati when it
comes to receivers. You know that, you have you noticed
that they always have good receivers come through that channel,
no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy
that won the Super Bowl? MVP? Santonio Holmes, Santonio Homes.
I mean, bro, y'all think it seemed like that. I mean,
I mean, yeah, give give up Bryce Young those type
of weapons and let's see, let's see. You gotta get
a guy something to work with Marino. I think Marina
(35:07):
what uh? I think Duper and Clayton got there with
Marino in eighty three. They might have came in eighty
It might have been eighty three. They might have got
there together, but you gotta get a guy something to
work with. Now, the volume
The volume.
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a sun
Devils and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The
number five Texas squad to the sixteen point lead in
the fourth quarter, miss two field goals in the final
two minutes of regulation, and still somehow managed to escape
with the thirty nine thirty one double overtime win over
(01:53):
the number four seat Arizona State. In the pepot, the
check a late po o jo Hey, I know, sorry
as I just texted him congratulations. Try to get him
on here one of these for the next couple of days,
so maybe we can uh, we can we can get
him on there. He's like, they flying back now, so
(02:14):
or we would have had his ass over. He had
him on here tonight. But man, this was a game,
Oh Jo, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't
nobody trying to see no double digit? Everybody win him
by double.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I thought I thought it was listening the way it
started out. I thought it was on the state was
gonna get blown out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now a fourteen? What was the fourteen? What was the fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But the man, they jumped out on top of them
boy's head. I'm like, oh man, I'm fin the turn
of channel. I'm from the turn of the channel. And then
obviously things started to change, things started to move. And
I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I
don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have
one job, You do one thing the entirey day of practice.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You kicked the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Excess kicker almost cost them almost called Keith field goals
that could have seen the wind. Now they did win
the game, but ain't no telling what what could have happened.
Ain't I'm telling what could have happened that God damn
Cam He you say, young bull laugh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ned to run scatter boat scat scatack? Is it scatterb
because they were they were saying scatable, that's a scapboat.
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I mean, you know what, I'm gonnall him. I'm gonna
call him scat packed. I'm call him scam scam cam
scat pack.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And he's nice boy. He now he's a singer too.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He coming out huh scatib cam scattable, okay, cam scat cam,
scaped back, scatterbo.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're
probably watching the show. Listen. If you don't see it,
I know my son gonna let you know. For you
the real deal boy, you and me, he will see
huh yeah, I think he'll see you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well we have you know you belong you belong you.
He run the ball like he belonged to. He's supposed
play for the Ravens of the Browns.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, he's gonna be a rare. He's gonna be one
of the white running back. They don't cople but normally
would that couple.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know, you know he he's gonna be like I mean,
I give you a good name right here.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Tell me if you remember this Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, little Peyton Hellis, don't keep up. Run hard if
you're getting the where he gets shakey a little bit.
He got he got a little he got a little
little move to him.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Now, well you remember Hillis was in that backfield with
Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to the
winter the Cowboys. What's the other guy named? I mean
they would they were doing it, you matter Fadden and uh,
what's this? I can't think of the guy's name. What's
(04:55):
what's the guy's name? God, I know, y'all people talking
about Toby Gerhart. Uh the old cardinal Stanford Cardinal. What's up?
He was at Arkansas? Phelix Jones, Jones, Yeah, Derren McFadden,
(05:20):
Yes all they was in the backfield, yeah, yes, yes, Uh,
but this is where game is supposed to be. Quinn,
youres twenty of thirty three thirty three twenty two three
touchdowns one of the exceptions. Uh, they didn't run the
ball particularly well. Thirty carries fifty three yards, Golden had
a big catch, Uh saym for buck forty nine, Helm
had three for fifty six and uh m oh, Joe,
(05:48):
I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kind
of I think they kind of let this one go.
You can't let that guy get over your head in
that situation, O Joe. That that that touch down, that
first touched down in ot Oh Jo, you can't, lady,
you mean that, you just that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Should have been the number one rule from the coach.
Keep everything in front of you, everything, the.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Number rule, O Joe, the number one rule late in
the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep, keeping it front
of eight. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if
he catch it. I don't care if he catches fifty
yard right in front of me. It's when you try
to be the hero and get you a cheap yep
that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you
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the last line of defense. If he's even with you,
you're wrong, mister rap he Oh Joe, it was thawed
down with the thirteen. Oh Joe, you cannot give that up.
You can't. Oh, oh Joe, my heels on the gold line.
(06:52):
I'm figuring about figure. I think they throw the hairburry,
Oh Joe, I throw the gold line by heels on
the gold line, knock get down knock get down. You're
not get maaed r I you cheap job. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I don't want to I don't even want to blame
the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a
player in that situation, you got to have some type
of awareness, some type of weardeness and understanding, understand the
situation that you're in and know you just you can't
be you can't get beat, not in that situation at all.
And if if I am, let him make a great play,
(07:26):
but let me be in position, you don't make the play.
At least let me be in position and he have
to make a great play in or to catch that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Man. I was like, oh my goodness, oh fourth and thirteen,
you give up that? Uh. But I think Arizona State
showed that they belong to Everybody was like, well, they
didn't belong that weak conference and they didn't do this,
and this team didn't do that. They played, they gave
Texas all they could definitely belong they and or oh Joe,
(08:01):
when you watch Quinn yours what you think you know?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously,
to me, if you have enough, if you have enough,
talent around you. Enough players at this kind of level,
any quarterback can look good. Uh so what kind of
quarterback is Huars Is this type of quarterback to go
(08:27):
to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Where
is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent
around him that to be able to elevate.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't.
And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back,
lets you know, come back where if you wanna come
back to Texas he gonna train.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I don't see him going to nothing to see the
field before with ars Man arch Yeah, oh no, I
mean he probably if he gonna come back, he's probably
gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt it's Texas
because he's not gonna be arch manning out.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I've been reading I don't know if these
reports are true, O Joe, but I've been reading that
there's some some some team, some some college team got
six million dollars in n IL money for Okay. I
mean that's I just when I just watched him, I'm like, bro,
that ball that he threw that got picked. I'm trying
to figure out the lof the love that he loved it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, the hospital ball, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I still don't know where he was storing it because
the backside safety and the front like who was there?
So I'm just trying to figure out saying, okay, well
who what did you see? What did you what did you?
I know, what did happen on that play right there?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
They ran it in practice multiple times, and in practice
it was open.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
In practice, you know why it was open. You know
why it was open to tell the people at home
what they say. They tell the something the safety to do,
what jump the underneath so we could throw the ball
over your down.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's exactly what he did anyway, instead of understanding of
REDIA coverage, you know, and you're just letting the ball
go and it's not open.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Because that's the that's what happens. What happens is we hey,
you go draw the thing up and then the guy circle, Okay,
we want to throw the ball. Now the guy's running
the scout team say a safety, you dropped the crossing
route and we're gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well,
come game time, hey, can you drop this over? Can
you drunk this over round so we can throw the
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post behind your head. He gonna read it, right, dun,
you should read it. But you see what happens, don't Joe.
When you make your mind up pre snap that you're
throwing the ball, that's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens.
He had his mind made it. I'm throwing this post
no matter what. Bro Ain't no way you hell. You
read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this
(10:43):
and then he throws it in like a pot. Yeah,
that's gotta be on the line. But even if it
was on the line. First of all, that was targeted too,
because the backside guy left his feet and hit the
guy in the chest. But then ay, they didn't want
to like, nah, we can't call that target and blah
blah blah because they return the favor because by the
letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they
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didn't want to impact the game in that way. That says, oh,
no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean
they would he would help in the helvet and the
other guy left his feet, he launched. They say, you
can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck
of the shoulder area. He launched, and they say you
can't use your health, your held of the crowd, of
the helvet to make a tackle. He went to help
to heaven with the guy. But it's like, man, we
(11:27):
can't impa we can't impact this game like this. Here
they pick and choose, They pick and choose the call
of that absolutely right. They got to find some level
of consistency when you're making these calls. Texas had three
hundred and seventy five total yards. Arizona State had five
hundred and ten total rush yard. Texas had fifty three
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Arizona State had two fourteen quinn Ewers was twenty of
thirty three thirty two, three touchdowns, one an aception, sam
Levitt twenty four forty six to twenty two, no touchdown,
one an eception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a
great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, oh Joe,
we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback back, you
(12:09):
threw that blah blah blah. But you know the defensive guy.
They studied them too. He made a hell of a
play very and he didn't set up with just trying
to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught
it and it's okay. You know, I'm you know, hey
eighty four, you got to make that play. Hey, coach,
you get paid to you think you think Bronco players
(12:29):
the only way to make money? No, no, And they
studied film and they got coaches to oh okay, yeah,
so hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play.
But you know it's it's the NFL. Everybody can make
a play. I'm gonna want men win more than I lose.
But hey, that guy made a hell of a play
on that interception that to seal this victory on Joe.
(12:53):
But you can't get beat on four th and thirteen,
Ohoe over the top? Char two. You cannot. You can't.
Ah too, you can't. Nah. I was like, bro, I said,
are you? I said, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That that should have been a conversation had with that
not just the head coach, the defense, the coordinator, the
DV coach, the secondary coach, that the man up upstairs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
In the booth. Don't get bit beat deep, you can't,
you can't nothing, cheat nothing, deep. I am not you. You
will not complete this ball over my head. You're not
because oh you're at worst case scenario I'm gonna make
you line it up and again and try to run
(13:39):
another series of downs in order to get the ball
in the end zone. Now, the only thing, the only
thing you can hope is that once that guy gets
over your head, either Quinn, you were underthrosh or the
guy dropped the football. But you Hey, now it's out
of your hands. See, I want I want to play
in my hands, don't yo, I want to play in
(14:00):
my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all
I got to do. Get him on the ground. Well,
you get him on the ground in the end zone,
it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that.
You got to tackle him in the field of play
or push your ass out of minds in order for
you to get a tackle once he in the end zone. God,
it knew me what ojo? Can guys do me a
favorite college kid? If a guy get a first down,
can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do? Hey? Come on, hunk,
(14:24):
wait a minute and night, come on that you get
that first ooe, the guy got the first to burst down.
When you get that first down, you gotta no I'm
talking about the DF defense. Oh okay, Wow, you got
a big hit on somebody. He got a first down.
Oh I thought I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay, no, no,
I'm like, bro, I'm like, what baby, I miss something?
(14:45):
I said. Let me rewire this because I want to
see what you did. It's still a first down. Now. Look,
look the college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't
mind him celebrating. And plus, o Joe, if you make
a tackle, I'm as a dependent. What's your job make
a tackle? You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean if
(15:06):
you could, if you could have sacked, yeah, tackle for
a loss. You get a sack, oh Joe, a big
key third down. You know you want to do this.
I get all that, bro, the guy get three four yards,
then you jump up celebrating. Come on now, now we
were doing way too much with this. They're having a
(15:29):
good time out there. Man. She scatter boo scatter thirty
carries one hundred and forty three yards, two rushing tones down,
eight catches a ninety nine yards. Had that guy and
I pulled his face. Man, he's gonna drag his you
know what into the end zone. O Joe, scatter Bowl
was so outstanding. He was named Peach Bowl Offensive Player
(15:51):
to Game. You don't see that very often. His name
is Skatpack. Gotta bo cat Pack, Gotta boo scat pack.
Was Pack did something that you don't see very often,
a guy winning defensive winning offensive Player of the game
from a losing team. Yeah, it's only happened, you know.
Jerry West. Jerry West. The first year they gave out
(16:13):
Finals MVP in nineteen sixty nine, Jerry West won the
award on a losing squad. They lost the championships four
to three in the final game. They lost on their
home court. Again. Now you got to go back to
the ind of football. Chuck Howley. He won Super Bowl
MVP on a losing squad. They lost sixteen thirteen to
(16:34):
the Coast. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only
time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad
winning an award. Now, I'm not saying that, maybe it's happened.
I don't know. If in baseball and somebody's wonder a
World Series MVP from the losing squad, I don't. I
(16:55):
have to go way back, but I don't. I don't
remember it. That's what I don't think it's happened and
in the last twenty five thirty years. But it just
goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman
was from the Sun Devils running and catching the footballs
he was, he'd be he belongs.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
When you're able to perform like that against a team
like that, it lets you know you belonged, regardless of
the conference you play in.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh yeah, but you can you can tell guy that
the talent shine the bull. You can tell I mean,
he okay, that's an SEC defense. And he wouldn't got
a book thirty he wouldn't have got a book forty
three on them. And he almost had one hundred yards receiving,
So he had what two hundred and what's that two
(17:50):
hundred and forty two yards of total offibps hey man
in two touchdowns against an SEC defense. Look good when
you when you go, when you go play and if
you at a small school, O joe, if you play
an upper level, say you go to Division two and
you play FCS or you FCS you play D one,
(18:11):
the talent is shine through Darius Leonard when he played Clemson,
he was at South Carolina State. Yeah, twenty nine tackles oh,
he could play. I played Georgia Southern. They were the
(18:33):
one double A national championship. The year we played them,
I dropped two oh two on them. Oh he could play?
He along with the NIA national championship the year before,
I dropped two twenty one on them. Oh damn he
did that. And you know what this is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
This is another conversation that I always like to have.
Where were young players coming out of high school. They're
always so focused on all their offers.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And where they're going.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I say it again, if you really like that,
if you're really like that, and you and you feel
you're as good as you think you are, but these
don't matter where you go. You can put up performances
like that, what you were able to do against better team,
what you were able to do, or being like scat
packed and coming out there and performing very well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know they oo. I think a lot of times
when you cut on the TV and you see that
that horseshoe path, or you see one hundred and eight
thousand at Texas A and M. You see one hundred
thousand at Georgia, you see ninety three thousand at Alabama,
you see one hundred and five thousand at Tennessee. Hey,
kids like I want to play in front of that.
(19:36):
That's all I mean, you know, that's what I want.
That's what I want to see because that's what I
saw on television. I didn't see no HBC. But see,
I understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But then now we go into the issue of Okay,
I want to go to these big schools where they
have players that have been there before me, and then
I get there and they tell me, oh, I got
to wait my turn, or I might not trust to
feel as much because we have so and so and
he has sen you already over you, not about know
what I'm coming in here to compete for the job.
But you mean to tell me he asked you are
over me, so he's probably gonna play before me instead
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of let me have an opportunity to beat him out
regardless of what what what is grade level is juniors.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Matter? Oh they had to play me?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Oh you think Jeremiah Smith was gonna go to Ohio
State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior
or GENI because they've been there for a two, for three,
three or four years and man, please, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Better get a little out of it there because he
you know who's coming. Hey, hey, they had to play
me on yo. Yeah, oh what you thought? Oh mm hmmm.
I was one of the future freshmen that travel. I
ain't just traveling. Oh you could travel this week, man,
travel to do what stand on the sideline of my
Oh hell god? And and and and In the first game,
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the first game we played on you, our first whole game, man,
I was so embarrassed with you. I called a gold
ball fifty six yards, got tackled on the war Huh,
you got it? My first catch in college. Ho, hold on,
what's your embarrassed for? Man? That for me a fifty
self yard touchdown, not a fifty six yard camps way east.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You gotta stiffy, man, you gotta catch that thing, and
you know, get that get that stiff on back behind him.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
O choe. It felt like, I mean, it felt like
I was running. It felt to me like I was
running the slow booster. I was like, damn, is somebody
pulling the gains on away from me?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Oh, show the game that you just watched. The Ohio
State buck guys took apart the number one team in
the country, the Oregon Ducks forty one one in the
Rose Bowl Oregon. Excuse me, Ohio State gets their revenge.
It was one of their two losses on the season.
They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon,
but tonight there were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set
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the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck eighty
seven and two touchdowns, but this was really a mismatch
from the word jump. And I think this is what's
so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they
can be. Now. This is the team that took away,
took apart the number one team in the country by
twenty by three touchdown, and lost on their own home
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field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns.
That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what
but Ryan, they give him credit. We've been very critical him,
not critical, we were critical of the game that he's lost,
losing to Ohio and losing to Michigan year in and
year out. Having that level of talent that you had.
Think about the quarterbacks that they're saying, think about the
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wide receivers, thinking about the d lineman, think about the
dbs from the Denzel Wards, and the Jeff Okudas and
all those guys that's come out of there, and you
ain't got no national championship, no national championships. All those receivers,
Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Chris o'lavey,
you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those d linemen from
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Chase Young, the Nick Bosa, look at those quarterbacks justin
fields and you had rested soul. What's the guy that
lost his life tragically, Dwayne Atkins? You had the other quarterback.
And so you can understand why people like hold On,
come on, coach Day, you got this level of talent.
They had a top what top six, top seven pig
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last year the offensive tackle position. Like coach Day, you
got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan
and you ain't got no national championship. But all would
be forgiven if he takes this thing and and and
and finish it out. But the Ohio State looked good today,
O Joe. They ran the ball well, they threw the
ball well, they stopped miss I mean, the high powered
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offensive Oregon. It looks very It looked very pedestrian, very mundane.
Did listen. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Maybe maybe I could be wrong, but I think I
think the week the week off, I think it did
more harm than good for him to be as flat
as they look today, as well as organ Is played
all season long, being the number one team in the country,
and the way they showed up to day, that had
to be a little bit of russ. And not only
was it a little bit of russ, but it was
too late and there was no room for the rust
when you're playing somebody like Ohio State, who had a
point to prove losing the first time they met earlier
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in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith.
He said ahead of time that if you played one
on one, hey, if you played one on one, you're
not gonna be able to come me. He went out
there and it did exactly what he was supposed to
do and handle his business. The funny thing about it,
people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith
and how great he is and how good he is,
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and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably
number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman.
I've been watching young Bull at shamanad down there in Miami.
You know, for a few years, he'd been like that
in literal league. He was like that at Ohio.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He is like that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still gonna
be like that. He'd been like that for a long time.
Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very very well again,
hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand
and for all the great players that have come through Ohio,
Ohio State they can have, they can hoist that trophy
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, oh c J. Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ.
Shrowd no national championship, Justin Fields no national championship. Dwayne
Haskins no national championship. That's three quarterbacks. Take it in
the first now, o'lave first round pick, Gary Wilson, first
round pick Jackson Smith and JIGBA first round pick, Marvin Harrison,
junior first round pick, Chase Young, the number two pick,
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Nick Bosa, the number two pick, Jeff Okudah Denzel Ward.
Come on, now, o Joe, come on. I mean people,
they make it seem like we just making stuff up.
You got that level of talent year in and year
out and you ain't won no national championship and people like,
oh oh they're being too hard rough and you lose
it to Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think
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that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent
that's coming out year in and year and you're underachieved,
there's no other there, there's no other way around. O
Joe coach day. You did a phenomenal job of having
this team prepared and from the word jump, I have
a question, huh do you still is it?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all
these quality players year in and you're out, Is it's
still unachievement simply because you haven't won the national championship.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But the seasons happen. Yes, ooe. Think about it. You
got offensive player the year, offensive player to your offensive
player the year. Think about you got quarterbacks C J.
Stroud justin fields and you had Dwayne Haskins insect session.
You think about you have Jaskins, Smith and Jake, but
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you had Gary Well, you had a lobby. You had
Marvin Harrison Jr. In six session and a lot of
those guys played together. You had a Chase Young, you
had Nick bof A, jump O Cooter, Denzel Ward. Come on,
I'm bro, that's ten, bro, that's ten first round picks
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right there. Man. I said the same thing about Coach Saban.
Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic.
I asked Coach Saban this, if you had consistently lost
to Auburn and you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley,
and you got Judy and you got Rugs, and you
got Waddle, and you got Devonte Smith, and you got
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a Marik Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got
to her, you got Young, you got what's the guy
that went to New England? Uh Jones? Mack John Matt Jones. Okay,
you got him. Now you got and plus you got
a what's the guy Derrick Henry? And you got n G. Harris,
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you got Damien Harrick. Bro And I ain't even talking
about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they
and you don't win on national championship direct even after
a couple of years of coach and Alabama fans, y'all
know this. Even after a couple of years of not
winning the national championship after he had done one four
or five, they say coach Saban had lost his fastball.
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That man had got four or five national championships, and
they saying that with the talent you got Cowinny Williams,
and you got Allen and you got all those guys.
SE made you better, A you better you paid when
you have that level of talent, O children, I mean,
think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put
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out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The
only difference is Alabama has has one in the last
fifteen years, has won six national championships, played for another three.
That's the difference between them.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And you know what, I would love to hear espressing
the chat and then probably people that are gonna watch
this after the fact and hear us talk about this
and saying that Ohio State is under achieved based on
the level of talent that they've had in succession there
without winning the national championship. Us to hit rebuffles and
with the not excuses, but the reasons behind why they
having one will be and you know, always find a
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way they come up with something. I don't want to
call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on
what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to
hear what they have to say.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Quin Ewers has received a six million dollar offer to
enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL
Draft this spring. According to On three, multiple Power Forward
schools are working to get yours and the portal ahead
of the final of his final year of college eligibility.
(29:38):
Six million for one year, Ojo, you got to come back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He has to come back and continue to work on
his game because when you watch court, when you watch yours,
I need your play to pop out on the screen.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I needed to pop out when you watch it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Joe Burrow in college, you watch to see extrid in college,
when you watch other quarterbacks like the cam Wards, they
pop out on screen.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
There's something special about those individuals. Special. So if he
needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter
where it is, and you know, pop out on I
agree with you. I agree with you, O Joe. I
don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but
I don't see special. I don't see I don't see
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man a muscle, a guy that say, like boy, they
get him. He gonna great, He's gonna he's gonna drastically
change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now, let's see,
let's see. I mean he might come back and get better,
because nobody saw that. If you the ask teams that
were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back
for seen year, Joe Burrow didn't see it seemed special.
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But he came back for that year. He was special.
Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come and get
that one year, Mac Jones, ain't no first ain't no
first round there Sometimes look, hey, I don't blame people like,
well look what yes, okay, now can't he make it happen?
You're throwing at Davonte. You got Naja, you got Wattle,
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you know, you got a you got a very very
talented team. It just goes to show you just how
good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bitch.
If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman. Hey,
and also look at the talent this this would I
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like about Bryce too.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Now we saw him, We saw Bryce win the Heisman,
but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So yeah, he got got to Carolina. You thought something was.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Wrong with him. Then he gets bench. He come back
out to getting benched. I don't know what the hell happened.
I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now
he's back to playing great football. Looked like the Bryce
Young we saw in college, even in losing. He's in
even in losing efforts at the team.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And as a quarterback. He looks completely totally different than
he did when he first All right, he did, he does.
They just need to give him from talent. If you
look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at CJ. Stroud,
Look at what he was throwing the tang Dale, the
Nico Collins, look at what he was throwing to. Okay,
look at Kayler Williams. He got Roman, Dudes, they first
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round pick. He got DJ Moore, who just signed a
contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at look at
what uh Daniels? Yeah, Jaydon look at what he's throwing to. Damn.
I mean, y'all want the man to come back? Hey,
I don't care. Even Peyton Peyton Manny had Marvin Harrison
when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had
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Ken Dilger, I mean, and he had Marshall fall crazy yes,
as a rookie. He had two first batlet Hall of
Famers as a rookie. That's a lucky Ken Dilga had
been to Pro Bowls. There's another I forget the guy named,
oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter
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of fact, the Calls had two tight ends to make
the Pro Bowl. Mark what's his name? Uh, go back
and look at ninety Teddy stop scratching the couch. Uh.
I can't think of the other. The other brother, he
was a what's that dude's name? Because I traded I
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traded helmets with Ken deal get the pro bo one year.
I'm trying to think what year was that shell? I
don't even remember. Yeah, Uh, Pro Bowl tight end death no, no, no,
in like in the nineties. Yeah, Marcus Pollard, thank you
(33:45):
chat Marcus focus Pollard. I remember, I remember Marcus Pollard
and I ain't heard that name in a minute. Man.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out
here and you spect tracing the thing, but go back
and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they
were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became
the start, y'all know who he throwing to. Right, he
had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.
Can I interest you in any of those guys. Two
of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame.
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Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big
Ben had to throw to. No, look what he's always
always had to throw to. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, The Pittsburgh Stealers are just like Cincinnati when it
comes to receivers. You know that, you have you noticed
that they always have good receivers come through that channel,
no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy
that won the Super Bowl? MVP? Santonio Holmes, Santonio Homes.
I mean, bro, y'all think it seemed like that. I mean,
I mean, yeah, give give up Bryce Young those type
of weapons and let's see, let's see. You gotta get
a guy something to work with Marino. I think Marina
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what uh? I think Duper and Clayton got there with
Marino in eighty three. They might have came in eighty
It might have been eighty three. They might have got
there together, but you gotta get a guy something to
work with. Now, the volume
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